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143: Not Bad for a Bunch of Humans · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Marlena. I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 9: And we are back again with more coverage from Scarefest.
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  Speaker 9: Although right now, where would you say we are exactly?
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  Speaker 10: We are in the bowels of the Hyatt.
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  Speaker 5: This is all we were deciding. You don't have to
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  Speaker 5: leave this building once you get to the city.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, it's... They've combined, what all did we say,
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  Speaker 11: a bar, a mall, a food court, the convention center,
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  Speaker 11: the museum, the hotel.
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  Speaker 9: The sporting event. Yeah, you can see a sporting event, concert,
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  Speaker 9: Jeff Dunham. We missed him this year, Marlena. Remember last
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  Speaker 9: year we ran into Jeff Dunham? It was a sad day.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, for you or him?
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  Speaker 5: For us, really.
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  Speaker 9: I was thinking, I was like, I was right next
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  Speaker 9: to him. I could have killed him and spared the
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  Speaker 9: world Jeff Dunham comedy. But instead, he wandered off, so
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  Speaker 9: now we all suffer.
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  Speaker 12: You're going to receive like a A letter from Jeff Dunham's, like, agent. Yeah,
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  Speaker 12: or Homeland Security. That guy's a national treasure.
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  Speaker 5: He's a terrorist. All of his racist fans will write
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  Speaker 5: to me.
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  Speaker 10: I actually don't know who this person is, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Be glad.
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  Speaker 12: I was telling someone about him earlier today for some reason.
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  Speaker 12: I was trying to explain to my boyfriend's dad who
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  Speaker 12: he was, and I was like, he's the comedian that
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  Speaker 12: uses puppets.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 5: I know the puppet guy. There you go. Puppet guy.
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  Speaker 12: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, yes, we ran into him last year.
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  Speaker 9: Playing here and again because you don't have to leave
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  Speaker 9: this facility once you're here you're set so he was
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  Speaker 9: like at rep arena yeah and there's some draw the
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  Speaker 9: line was out the door when we left that was
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  Speaker 9: the sad part it was frightening that the line was
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  Speaker 9: probably more than we're at the horde convention and there
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  Speaker 9: was a lot of people at the horde convention so
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  Speaker 9: yeah it was sad really is what it was so.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Anything else we need to cover? The fun-filled place that we.
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  Speaker 5: Are right now? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 9: I guess we can roll into this week's geek activities.
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  Speaker 9: I've got a minor one, just because it was sort
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  Speaker 9: of movie-related. I went to a movie-themed art opening this
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  Speaker 9: past week.
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  Speaker 10: That's exciting. What was that?
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  Speaker 9: Um it was a smaller show it was like i
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  Speaker 9: think it's a offshoot group of students from uofl that
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  Speaker 9: put together this group and they just decided to do
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  Speaker 9: one which i don't know being geek that i am
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  Speaker 9: i've already done a couple of shows like this so
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  Speaker 9: i remember when i did the movie themed art show
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  Speaker 9: i was pretty like hardcore on the attachment you know
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  Speaker 9: the the um assessing what movie it was kind of
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  Speaker 9: thing like my my rule was like if some random
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  Speaker 9: person that knows movies relatively well can look at your
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  Speaker 9: art and know what movie it is then that okay
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  Speaker 9: it belongs in this this show my show they didn't
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  Speaker 9: have that theirs i think was more of the like
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  Speaker 9: inspired by kind of thing so there are some of
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  Speaker 9: them that that are very specific as to oh yeah
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  Speaker 9: that's in there and it's from this movie There are
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  Speaker 9: other ones that are like, it's just art, and then
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  Speaker 9: you read the little thing on the side, and you're like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 9: it's inspired by this thing.
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  Speaker 5: But, yeah, sometimes you don't know what movie you're dealing with. So,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I kind of like being more specific. I think that's fine.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you can have an inspired by show, but
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  Speaker 9: to me that's a different show than the very geeky
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  Speaker 9: movie-themed version.
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  Speaker 8: So, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: That's just me.
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  Speaker 9: Have you ever been to, aside from mine? Has anybody
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  Speaker 9: ever seen it?
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  Speaker 12: Where is this at? I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: But it's, yeah, I mean, I know they've gotten kind
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  Speaker 5: of big.
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  Speaker 9: We had the Crazy for Cult art book that we
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  Speaker 9: looked at on the show a little while back that
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  Speaker 9: is all the ones in L.A.
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  Speaker 5: That they're doing now. So it's become a big thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: They did a really cool Twin Peaks one in Los
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  Speaker 13: Angeles that I was really wanting to go to.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then, as I said on that episode, I'm pretty
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  Speaker 5: sure I came up with that idea first. Anyway.
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  Speaker 13: But that just reminded me of a piece that I
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  Speaker 13: actually saw this weekend that I thought was one of
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  Speaker 13: the most amazing pieces I've ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 10: This local guy named Robert Beatty did it.
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  Speaker 13: And it was this, it was the whole, the gallery
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  Speaker 13: concept was that it was all using found media. And
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  Speaker 13: so he took all of the shots from the Fat
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  Speaker 13: Albert cartoon series that didn't have characters in them and
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  Speaker 13: edited them together.
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  Speaker 10: So it's like this.
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  Speaker 13: Familiar cartoon landscape that's just completely desolate and depressing and, like, oppressive.
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  Speaker 10: And it was actually a really powerful experience.
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  Speaker 5: Is it moving? Like, he made it and animated it?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 10: No, I mean, it's the actual clips.
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  Speaker 5: So it's just like.
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  Speaker 10: And I guess.
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  Speaker 13: I never really paid attention to the way Fat Albert
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  Speaker 13: is shot or remember it because I was a kid, but...
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  Speaker 13: It's that super 70s thing where it would sort.
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  Speaker 10: Of zoom in.
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  Speaker 13: Because they were living in the ghetto, it's all beat-up
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  Speaker 13: old cars, and it's just filth and degradation.
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  Speaker 10: When you watch it on the loop, it's really disturbing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they hung out in the junkyard, I forgot.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, but it was very brilliant. Anyway, well done, Robert Beatty.
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  Speaker 5: That's actually pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 12: It's like Gummo and Sanford and Son like each other.
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  Speaker 9: Nice.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, that was interesting. They did a good job
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  Speaker 5: with what they were doing. It's just, yeah, they had
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  Speaker 5: a mixture of the two, which I think I just
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  Speaker 5: had a.
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  Speaker 9: Harder time processing because I had a very specific way
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  Speaker 9: that I did it when I was doing those shows.
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  Speaker 12: You're doing it wrong.
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying not to be that way. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 5: be open-minded. I just had a very specific thing, and.
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  Speaker 9: They were a little more open. They were probably a
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  Speaker 9: little more artistic. I was like, no, damn it, do
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  Speaker 9: it my way.
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  Speaker 5: So theirs was more open to artistic interpretation.
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  Speaker 10: What kind of movies were represented there?
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  Speaker 5: One did a lot of, what's the Spirited Away dude?
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  Speaker 12: Oh, that guy. Yeah, that's his name. Mikiya Miyaki?
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  Speaker 5: It's almost it.
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  Speaker 10: I can't say an animation, other than Fat Albert, so
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  Speaker 10: I don't have it.
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  Speaker 5: You can't say an animation?
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  Speaker 10: I can't say an animation.
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  Speaker 13: It's like the one, well, not the one thing, it's
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  Speaker 13: not the only thing that I've changed about myself, but
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  Speaker 13: it's one of the things.
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  Speaker 5: There's no child inside of you. The child inside of
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  Speaker 5: you is dead.
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  Speaker 12: Miyazaki.
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  Speaker 5: Miyazaki.
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  Speaker 12: Hayo Miyazaki.
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  Speaker 9: So yeah, there's several, like a whole series this guy
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  Speaker 9: did from Miyazaki stuff. There is a couple others that were,
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  Speaker 9: the ones, again, the more specific ones that I immediately
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  Speaker 9: was drawn to, there was one that was from I
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  Speaker 9: think American Werewolf in London, there was one. There was
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  Speaker 9: a They Live one. So, I mean, it was very
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  Speaker 9: geek-friendly movies, which I appreciate. And I don't know. There
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  Speaker 9: were some other ones that I think were probably more artsy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I probably need to look up the directors on those.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, that was entertaining. I like that. And then
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  Speaker 5: aside from that, are you familiar with the Kuchar brothers?
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  Speaker 14: No.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 9: This is the one I told you, okay, you need
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  Speaker 9: to come watch this, because probably both of you will
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  Speaker 9: appreciate this. I watched a documentary called It Came From Kuchar,
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  Speaker 9: and it's about the Kuchar brothers, which started in maybe
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  Speaker 9: mid-60s or so, and had this when underground film was
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  Speaker 9: really underground film. Basically, to put it in perspective, these
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  Speaker 9: are the guys that inspired John Waters to make his
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  Speaker 9: early films.
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  Speaker 5: That's how messed up these guys are. These are the
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  Speaker 5: guys that inspired John Waters.
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  Speaker 9: So, yeah, I mean, it is about them and their,
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  Speaker 9: you know, lives in general, but mostly them getting into that,
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  Speaker 9: you know, the film industry and how their lives played
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  Speaker 9: out and how much they inspired. I mean, they're just, like,
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  Speaker 9: interviews with John Waters and, what is that, Montoya? Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I mean, all these other, like, big-time directors now that
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  Speaker 9: were inspired by their films.
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  Speaker 5: So it's really interesting to watch.
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  Speaker 9: These weird, I mean, I've seen some weird stuff in
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  Speaker 9: my time, but their movies, wow, they, and again, it
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  Speaker 9: obviously worked, because by the time I was done, I
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  Speaker 9: started searching for their movies, so I've already found some
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  Speaker 9: of their movies, I'm going to start watching their movies too,
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  Speaker 9: because the documentary is fascinating enough. But, yeah, I'm just like,
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  Speaker 9: I'm going to have to see some of these because they're.
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  Speaker 5: Some crazy, weird underground film, like old-school underground film. So, yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 9: And it's just an interesting documentary on top of that. And, like,
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  Speaker 9: even if their films were terrible... it's really well put
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  Speaker 9: together and all the characters in it are characters. I mean,
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  Speaker 9: they are some crazy people that were surrounding them. So
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  Speaker 9: just the brothers themselves are very peculiar and you get
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  Speaker 9: to these other people that kind of fell into their
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  Speaker 9: camp back in the day and then people they ended
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  Speaker 9: up with, you know, down the line. So it's, it's
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  Speaker 9: really interesting just to watch these two guys and what
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  Speaker 9: they were creating and especially being the movie geek that
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  Speaker 9: I am that the history of it, you know, doing
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  Speaker 9: this in the mid-60s when nobody was doing that kind
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  Speaker 9: of stuff yet, really, and certainly not to the extent
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  Speaker 9: that they were, so, and they're totally, I mean, super DIY,
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  Speaker 9: I mean, stuff is done, like, in a day, and it's, like,
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  Speaker 9: done in their house, but their friend's mother plays a
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  Speaker 9: key role in it, and I mean, it's amazing the
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  Speaker 9: stuff that they put together, and yet they have this
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  Speaker 9: very theatrical style, like, I mean, the one has all
• 11:09
  Speaker 9: these title screens that are done over the years, and they, like,
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  Speaker 9: They're done kind of, like, you can tell they're, like, amateur,
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  Speaker 9: but at the same time they're done in the style
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  Speaker 9: that is completely mimicking, like, super big-time Hollywood.
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  Speaker 5: And you can tell.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, they mention some of the old, like, 50s
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  Speaker 9: melodrama that they're inspired by.
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  Speaker 5: And you can see that in their weird movies.
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  Speaker 9: So it's, yeah, definitely watch it. It came from Kuchar.
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  Speaker 9: Kind of amazing if you're a movie geek. So, yeah,
• 11:34
  Speaker 9: definitely go find that. It was on Netflix, so, yeah.
• 11:38
  Speaker 9: Definitely need to watch that. I.
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  Speaker 12: I'm sad that it doesn't exist so much anymore because, like,
• 11:45
  Speaker 12: I don't know what it is about the entertainment industry. Like,
• 11:48
  Speaker 12: you can have, like, bootleg movies or you can have, like,
• 11:53
  Speaker 12: eight pounds of cocaine and you're probably going to do
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  Speaker 12: more time for the bootleg movies.
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  Speaker 8: Probably.
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  Speaker 12: But I just... It's sad, like, guerrilla-like movie making almost
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  Speaker 12: doesn't exist anymore. Like, outside of, like, bad horror movies,
• 12:08
  Speaker 12: there's no, like, cheeky, like.
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  Speaker 12: Like, funny political, but not, like, overly, like, a Michael
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  Speaker 12: Moore documentary kind of style thing. It just doesn't, like, exist.
• 12:19
  Speaker 12: You know, like, fun, campy kind of John Waters stuff,
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  Speaker 12: you know, like, let's break into this farm and, like,
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  Speaker 12: do this scene and then we'll run away before anyone notices. Like,
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  Speaker 12: that doesn't really happen.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's out there, but it's changed, and I
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  Speaker 9: think it somehow lessened it when videotape came around. Like, again,
• 12:36
  Speaker 9: I think it's cool that you let that gate open
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  Speaker 9: and everybody can now make films, but at the same time, it, like,
• 12:42
  Speaker 9: let a lot of people who probably don't need to.
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: Be making films make films.
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  Speaker 9: So, I mean, I think the reason they were so
• 12:48
  Speaker 9: impressive back when it was like 8mm was because it
• 12:51
  Speaker 9: was hard. Like, it was a lot of trouble to
• 12:53
  Speaker 9: get the equipment and a lot of trouble to go through,
• 12:55
  Speaker 9: you know, getting enough lighting to make it work and
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  Speaker 9: getting it developed and getting it distributed. I think that
• 13:01
  Speaker 9: weeded out the people who really weren't dedicated. So you got,
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  Speaker 9: I mean, even the stuff that's ridiculous and bad is
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  Speaker 9: kind of impressive that, you know, the trouble that they
• 13:09
  Speaker 9: went to to get all this stuff done Whereas once
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  Speaker 9: you could go to, you know, your local department store
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  Speaker 9: and buy a camera, and now you can upload it
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  Speaker 9: the next day on the Internet, you know, it's like
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  Speaker 9: you get a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, well, look at YouTube. You get a lot
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  Speaker 5: of stuff.
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  Speaker 9: That's not necessarily impressive anymore on any scale, you know.
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  Speaker 9: So it's, I don't know, is it just me, or
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  Speaker 9: does that seem like a dividing line there?
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  Speaker 12: Well, I mean, it's different, though. You know, it's like
• 13:34
  Speaker 12: if you think about, like, the college humor guys who
• 13:36
  Speaker 12: did their own, like, little skits and stuff like that,
• 13:39
  Speaker 12: you know, it's like... as well executed as like a
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  Speaker 12: regular movie would be minus the budget. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 12: like people who are just trying to do something really
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  Speaker 12: fast and like, you know, one take and we're done.
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  Speaker 12: Like we don't have a lot of time, you know,
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  Speaker 12: almost like flash mob style, you know, just like show
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  Speaker 12: up and do this and then like run away. Like,
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  Speaker 12: you know, people make movies at home all the time.
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  Speaker 13: Obviously.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, YouTube proves that, but like just the whole
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  Speaker 12: like hurriedness, the, Like, illegalness of it. Illegalness. I don't
• 14:09
  Speaker 12: think that's a word, but, you know.
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  Speaker 5: There's a little of that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, because somebody we know put one out that what
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  Speaker 9: you're describing sounds like it's... I may have to find
• 14:19
  Speaker 9: this one and see if it actually is.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're out there. I think that version is
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  Speaker 5: just so lesser now. I think it's, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 5: so underground again, I guess.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you've got so many other mediocre things that
• 14:32
  Speaker 9: are hitting semi-mainstream now.
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  Speaker 15: That I guess.
• 14:35
  Speaker 9: it really has taken on that new level of the
• 14:37
  Speaker 9: few people that bother to do that style, that old
• 14:40
  Speaker 9: version that used to happen.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm wondering if actually filmmakers are better now. I mean,
• 14:45
  Speaker 13: there's less camp because people are actually making quality films.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, like this guy that's coming into town this week,
• 14:50
  Speaker 13: Kentucker Audley, he's from here originally, and he's making these
• 14:53
  Speaker 13: mumblecore movies out of Memphis. And he, you know, has
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  Speaker 13: no budget. They're, you know, shooting stuff once. But the
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  Speaker 13: stuff's really good. So maybe that's the difference.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know. Maybe you're just more talented. And maybe, like,
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  Speaker 12: the fact that you don't have to lug around, like,
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  Speaker 12: an 800-pound camera and all these, like, heavy equipment. I
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  Speaker 12: think maybe that's it.
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  Speaker 10: That there's less, like, opportunity for messing up.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. Really.
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  Speaker 5: We don't get to see that anymore.
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  Speaker 12: Even if it is just as rushed, it's just, like,
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  Speaker 12: better executed.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah. Shoot.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Darn it all.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, that's half of what makes it so funny, though.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, I wouldn't want to watch, like, an hours-long
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  Speaker 12: movie of that, you know, but it's funny, like, in
• 15:31
  Speaker 12: those something weird movie clips that you have where it's just, like,
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  Speaker 12: you can tell they, like, ran somewhere and filmed this,
• 15:38
  Speaker 12: and it's just so, like, absurd, and the fact that it's, like, awful.
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  Speaker 9: But some of it, I mean, again, there's something kind
• 15:45
  Speaker 9: of amazing about them going to the trouble that they
• 15:47
  Speaker 9: did to make those movies.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Especially as bad as they are.
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  Speaker 12: Like the premise of Cecil B. Demented, where they're just like,
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  Speaker 12: you know.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: What was their... They're like, let's bust into.
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  Speaker 12: This movie theater and we're going to film this and,
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  Speaker 12: you know.
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  Speaker 14: Yep.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Like that, but.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that was pretty much mine, so.
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  Speaker 12: Probably was a bad idea.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: Who wants to go next in the Geek Week?
• 16:13
  Speaker 12: Well, I guess I will. Friday night, I watched Max
• 16:20
  Speaker 12: and Mary or Mary and Max. I don't know. I
• 16:22
  Speaker 12: can't remember which way it goes.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: I thought it was Max and Mary, but I wouldn't swear.
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: Either way.
• 16:26
  Speaker 12: But it was really good. It was a claymation movie.
• 16:29
  Speaker 16: It's animated.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: You won't like it.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 12: I mean, it was a.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: What.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: Was that?
• 16:38
  Speaker 12: She said she has no soul.
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: Oh, that's right.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: I forgot.
• 16:41
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 16:42
  Speaker 12: It was really good. You can kind of tell that
• 16:45
  Speaker 12: it's going to be dark, even in just the shot
• 16:49
  Speaker 12: on Netflix of what you get. It's gray and really
• 16:51
  Speaker 12: dark tones, but it was horribly depressing. I mean, it
• 16:56
  Speaker 12: was very well done, and it was a very touching
• 16:58
  Speaker 12: and moving story, but I definitely cried. I fell asleep,
• 17:02
  Speaker 12: and then I woke up and watched it, and then
• 17:04
  Speaker 12: I cried.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: I fell asleep, and then I cried.
• 17:07
  Speaker 12: I woke up and cried. I didn't cry in my sleep.
• 17:09
  Speaker 12: That would just be weird.
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: I have.
• 17:12
  Speaker 12: I could have.
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: That's fine.
• 17:14
  Speaker 12: I could have. Yeah, and also, earlier this week I
• 17:18
  Speaker 12: bought Robots for my niece. I think we saw that
• 17:22
  Speaker 12: a long time ago.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: The movie Robots? Yeah, it's been so long I forgot
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: about Robots.
• 17:25
  Speaker 12: Oh my god, it's hilarious. She didn't really like, I'm
• 17:29
  Speaker 12: like pushing it on her. I'm like, Jessica, let's make
• 17:31
  Speaker 12: her watch it again so she can love this movie
• 17:33
  Speaker 12: over time.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Whether she likes it or not, you're going to love
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: this movie.
• 17:36
  Speaker 12: It's just so, like, I don't know. As far as
• 17:39
  Speaker 12: those animated movies go it's cheeky it has like the
• 17:42
  Speaker 12: right amount of adult humor that a parent doesn't want
• 17:44
  Speaker 12: to like pull their hair out when they're watching it
• 17:46
  Speaker 12: but like.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: That's usually reserved for Pixar and.
• 17:49
  Speaker 12: That's about it yeah I don't think this was Pixar
• 17:51
  Speaker 12: though no I.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Don't think it was which is unusual but.
• 17:54
  Speaker 12: It had like Robin Williams and Ewan McGregor and like
• 17:58
  Speaker 12: Greg Kinnear I think Halle Berry Amanda Bynes a bunch
• 18:01
  Speaker 12: of weird people like as voices uh but um It was.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: More entertaining than most non-Pixar movies, if I remember correctly.
• 18:09
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it was pretty entertaining. I don't know if I
• 18:14
  Speaker 12: talked about this last time or not, but a few,
• 18:16
  Speaker 12: probably like a month ago or so, I got a
• 18:19
  Speaker 12: single man for Netflix and watched that. It was really,
• 18:23
  Speaker 12: really good. I'd heard a lot about the scenery and
• 18:30
  Speaker 12: everyone's obsessed with 1960s period pieces because of Mad Men,
• 18:34
  Speaker 12: and it wasn't like, it was the same style and
• 18:37
  Speaker 12: the same look, but it wasn't like copying or anything
• 18:40
  Speaker 12: like that, which I liked. It was just kind of
• 18:41
  Speaker 12: like existing in a 1960s, like era without, you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 12: seeming unoriginal, I guess. But, um, I thought that was
• 18:52
  Speaker 12: really well done. Uh, Colin Firth and Julian Moore were
• 18:56
  Speaker 12: in it. And it was about this man who, uh,
• 18:58
  Speaker 12: loses his partner after 16 years. And it's just like
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: the most touching love story ever. It's really, really sad.
• 19:07
  Speaker 12: I really need to stop watching horribly depressing movies.
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: That's what I realized last week. I need to stop
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: listening to horribly sad music. So it seems to be
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: a theme we have on this show.
• 19:17
  Speaker 12: You know, like, on Friday night I got home from
• 19:20
  Speaker 12: work and it was just, like, such a long day.
• 19:22
  Speaker 12: I'm like, I want to watch something funny. And then
• 19:23
  Speaker 12: I watch Max and Mary. I'm just like, Jesus Christ.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: Good going.
• 19:29
  Speaker 12: I think that's pretty much all I've watched that I
• 19:32
  Speaker 12: know of. I mean, I've cut clips of stuff on YouTube.
• 19:34
  Speaker 12: Like TNT or whatever, but I wouldn't really count that
• 19:37
  Speaker 12: as watching anything. Oh, I did watch Mystery Teen.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: Ah, see.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: That was really funny. I'm still like, in amazement by
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: that movie. Speaking of people who, like, randomly just threw their.
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: Own stuff together, I mean, that's how they started, was
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: just YouTube movies of them being goofy and doing characters
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: and I mean, he's actually legitimately directing films now.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: They put a movie out.
• 20:00
  Speaker 12: And every one of them has become successful. Every time
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: I see Blowjob Girl in something, I'm like, there's Blowjob Girl.
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: I don't know why I have to do that. But,
• 20:11
  Speaker 12: I mean, she was in Bridesmaids, and she was in
• 20:14
  Speaker 12: Mystery Team, but she's in a lot of stuff. It's
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: nice to see people succeed.
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: You know, when they... It didn't really come from anything.
• 20:24
  Speaker 12: One of the guys is on SNL now. That guy's on, what, Community?
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: I mean, he was writing on 30 Rock and then
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: went to Community.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: He's, like, from one giant paycheck to the other.
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: I know. Which, it's always awesome when people succeed.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: He's just ridiculously talented.
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: It's not right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: They probably flunked out of, like, their film school or
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: whatever they went to, too, which is always the funniest part,
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: you know, when you hear about, like, people being successful that, like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 12: failed at everything.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: Academically.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know. They're all ridiculous.
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: I don't know that. I just made that up, but
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: I was just thinking that that would be really funny
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: if that happened.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. They won now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's all. I'm going to stop talking.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: That's what you say, but we'll see.
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: Well, before I start, I do want to add my
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: thumbs up to A Single Man.
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: I loved that movie and thought that Colin Firth got
• 21:14
  Speaker 13: robbed that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: He didn't get the Academy Award that year. Instead, yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 13: Took it from Jeff Bridges next year. I didn't really
• 21:22
  Speaker 13: understand that reversal. But that scene where he gets the
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: news about his partner on the phone, like I thought
• 21:28
  Speaker 13: that was like the strongest five minutes of acting I've.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Maybe seen ever.
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: I thought it was just heartbreaking. It's so good. But
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: I saw a movie. Well, actually, I guess this week.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: It might have been last week.
• 21:40
  Speaker 13: Is it okay since I haven't seen you guys in
• 21:41
  Speaker 13: a while if I address a movie from last week?
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: As long as it's not already been on the show,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: it's all new to us.
• 21:46
  Speaker 13: Well, I don't think that this is played Louisville yet.
• 21:49
  Speaker 13: I don't think it's played anywhere in Kentucky. Have you
• 21:50
  Speaker 13: guys seen The Future? Have you talked about The Future,
• 21:53
  Speaker 13: the new Miranda July movie?
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I've seen.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it might have started because I think somebody else
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: said they'd seen it and they weren't thrilled with it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: What was your take on it?
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: I loved it. I thought it was fantastic. Who didn't
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: like it?
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: This was someone else I know who that usually is
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: their type of movies.
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: I had that discussion.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Well, it depends. What was their last movie?
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: You and me and everyone we know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Did you like that one?
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: I did like that one.
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: That's what I've heard.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I've liked, if you liked that last one, you're going
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: to like this one. If you didn't like that one,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: you're not going.
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: To like it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: She has a very unique sensibility.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: I think it's more her. It's kind of hit and miss.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Do you like her or not? So I guess that's
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: what it is. Because he didn't like her last movie either.
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: Oh, okay.
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: Well, yeah, he needs to stop. He needs to give up. No, really,
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: because she's not going in any other direction, hopefully.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: She's going to make animated movies, I think. depressing animated movie.
• 22:44
  Speaker 13: But I thought it was spectacular I mean it played
• 22:45
  Speaker 13: in Cincinnati for a week and that's the closest that
• 22:48
  Speaker 13: it's come I mean it you know played like Chicago
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: and that's been it I think it played Nashville but
• 22:54
  Speaker 13: um anyway so I guess we'll be able to watch
• 22:56
  Speaker 13: it on DVD soon but You know, it's everything that
• 22:59
  Speaker 13: she is.
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: It's quirky and hilarious and maybe don't. I think a
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: lot of people saw it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 13: Lots of people saw it because they love cats and
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: was like, oh, it's a movie about cats.
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: Don't see it if.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: You like the musical or the animals.
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Man, I love Andrew Lloyd Webber. Let's go see this movie.
• 23:21
  Speaker 13: But that was fantastic and then they've been doing a
• 23:24
  Speaker 13: series where they just start revitalizing the series that used
• 23:27
  Speaker 13: to happen here in Lexington called the Rosa Goddard International
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: Film Festival at the historic Kentucky Theater and they just.
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: You have, that's where I met you that's where we began.
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: They showed Beauty and the Beast the original 1946 Jean
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: Cocteau version which was just stunning I've never seen it
• 23:47
  Speaker 13: before Actually, I.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Own a copy of it, and I still haven't watched it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: Okay, good on that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I've heard nothing but good things, though.
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: I probably didn't watch it, because I was, like, horribly
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: obsessed with Beauty and the Beast as a child, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: I still kind of am, like, a little bit.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Again, that's animated.
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: You're just obsessed with things as a child. You never...
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: I heard a Garth Brooks song the other day and realized, like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: I was obsessed with Garth Brooks as a child, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: I'm still kind of obsessed.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, God, please.
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: Sorry.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Just, no, get away from me.
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: You can edit that out, because I don't really want
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: anyone to know that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: You said it, so I don't think it's too late now.
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: Sorry, I didn't mean to jack your feed there, Lucy.
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: No, by all means, don't do that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Please jack my feed.
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: If it's more shocking, Garth Brooks confessions, bring it on.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Tell us what you think about Reba McEntire.
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 24:34
  Speaker 12: I was like singing Reba McIntyre.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: You're so fancy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 12: Two times in the car today.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: You're bringing down your cool stock so much this episode.
• 24:42
  Speaker 12: I heard like the night the lights went out in
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: Georgia and then fancy and Jessica's talking and I'm like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 12: hang on. Wait, I think you actually told me that
• 24:50
  Speaker 12: I could resort to that.
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: And I was like, wait a second.
• 24:54
  Speaker 12: For me? For my kids. I was like, for you,
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: that'd be gross.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Oh Lord. Sorry about my daughter.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Anyway, sorry.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Once again, your feet has been jacked.
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: I don't think I know this Fancy. What is Fancy?
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: It's a song about... Her mom hooked her out. Yeah.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah. She's like.
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: Her mom is really sick and they're poor and, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: her mom's about to die so she puts a fancy
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: red dress on her and turns her out to some old.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Fancy, don't let me down.
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: Oh, my God.
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: But, you know, she, like, makes it in life and
• 25:26
  Speaker 12: she's rich and she's happy and she didn't starve to death.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: She's a happy whore.
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: What year was this song? Probably, like, early 90s.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. And.
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: I need to get on this, but I've been meaning to, like,
• 25:38
  Speaker 12: do a mashup of, like, you fancy, huh?
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: You ask for it and nobody has delivered it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: You know, that would be awesome. I can't believe it
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: hasn't happened yet.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: I would assume that's what YouTube is for, as we've said.
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: Mashups are, like, the thing of 2010. So cutting edge.
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: The world of country music has always been a little
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: foreign to me, and so when I hear things like that,
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: it amazes me. I knew the song, Ruby, Don't Take
• 26:03
  Speaker 13: Your Love to Town, just by the chorus, but I
• 26:05
  Speaker 13: never listened to it beginning to end until the other day,
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: and I was shocked.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: I really was.
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: I was a little bit beside myself.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: I try to steer clear of it. Specifically modern country,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: it's evil and it must be stopped.
• 26:16
  Speaker 12: I mean, it's just like if I don't have any
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: CDs in my car, I'll put it on the classic
• 26:20
  Speaker 12: country station and that's just what plays.
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Classic, I don't know if that falls into classic, but okay, anyway.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: We should get away from it. I tried to most
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: of my life.
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: I feel like I was going to say something about
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: Beauty and the Beast, but I've sort of forgotten it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: I actually came to it from a really weird place. Okay,
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: this is, you really are going to think that I'm soulless.
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: I had sort of forgotten what the story of Beauty
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: and the Beast was.
• 26:43
  Speaker 15: Like, I hadn't.
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: Revisited it in a long time, and I sort of
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: had a general concept of it, but I really didn't remember. Like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 13: in my head, I was sort of conflating it with, like, other, like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: You know, old stories and fairy tales.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: And then she rides on a magic carpet, and then
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: there's a glass slipper.
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: No, but I felt really excited.
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: Like, oh my gosh, I'm going to experience Beauty and
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: the Beast, like, for the first time. Like, I'm going
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: to come to this like a child comes.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: To Beauty and the Beast. That could be interesting.
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: And then they did an intro, and they said, what happens.
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: At the end?
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: And I was like, no, I was the only person, like.
• 27:11
  Speaker 13: Obviously, it's like ruining a passion play.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: Everybody knows what happens at the end.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Are they not familiar with spoiler alert?
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: Jesus.
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: But I think they just assumed that there wouldn't be
• 27:21
  Speaker 13: one pathetic, strange, alien creature.
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: I never assume that at our show. I assume everybody
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: hasn't seen Alien or whatever.
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: Well, then, and that's actually the next thing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 13: I spent this weekend watching the Alien movies because I
• 27:34
  Speaker 13: hadn't seen them. I'm totally, yeah, ruining my credibility.
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know. You're slacking off. But then I haven't
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: seen Beauty and the Beast, so I can't talk. So,
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: alien you can talk about. We'll get to aliens later.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: How about alien? What was your take on that?
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: I said this to you earlier. For whatever reason, I'd
• 27:52
  Speaker 13: never been able to make it through. And I think
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: the reason, I think maybe I always tried when I
• 27:56
  Speaker 13: was tired. And there's all those space sounds. And I
• 27:59
  Speaker 13: think the space sounds make me sleepy.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: Like whenever I get on an airplane and there's just
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: that shh.
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: Sound oh did that like really mess up the mic
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: mess up your levels um I like I always fall
• 28:10
  Speaker 13: asleep any kind of like sound like that and that
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: movie's all about that sound and I think it just
• 28:14
  Speaker 13: sort of lulls me to sleep despite the presence of
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: Harry Dean Stanton and I've seen I think all of
• 28:19
  Speaker 13: his movies except for Rango being an animated film um
• 28:24
  Speaker 13: but I was never able to make it through so
• 28:27
  Speaker 13: this time I made it through and I was like
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: oh yeah that is that is that is I get it.
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: I mean I liked it I liked it as a
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: child Yes, I saw it as a child. This is
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: why I messed up now. I saw it when I
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: was relatively young.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: And, yeah, I remember really, like, kind of liking it
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: in that way.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: And then later, I've grown to appreciate it in many
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: other layered ways again.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Like, I don't know.
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: There's a lot going on in that movie that, yeah,
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: especially for the time period when they weren't doing that
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: kind of stuff, especially in mainstream movies. Yeah, it's a
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: lot of weird stuff going on that's, yeah, it's impressive.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I would have liked Harry Dean Stanton to be
• 29:07
  Speaker 13: in more of the film.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: He would be the title character. I'm Harry Dean Stanton.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: I'm the alien. I think I'm going to smoke for
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: a little while. Then we'll take a break. Work a
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: nap in later. Oh, I love Harry Dean Stanton. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: he's never really action-packed, is he? He's a very subdued gentleman.
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: He's cool.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: He's cool.
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: That's what he is.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: He is cool. So is that it for our geek activities?
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: I think that's all I got.
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Well, we will take a break. And when we come back, hey,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: do you know who's here this weekend? Lance Hendrickson. We're
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: going to talk to Lance Hendrickson. You don't believe me? Fine, then.
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: I'll show you.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: We'll be back.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I love the way that you put it together. She said,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: here's your one chance, man.
• 29:54
  Speaker 17: You don't let me down. Here's your one chance, man.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: You don't let me down.
• 29:58
  Speaker 17: Here's your one chance, man. You don't let me down.
• 30:00
  Speaker 17: Here's your one chance, man. You don't let me down.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Here's your one chance, man.
• 30:03
  Speaker 17: You don't let me down. Here's your one chance, man.
• 30:06
  Speaker 17: You don't let me down. Here's your one chance, man.
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: You don't let me down. Here's your one chance, man.
• 30:11
  Speaker 17: You don't let me down. Here's your one chance, man.
• 30:13
  Speaker 17: You don't let me down. Here's your one chance, man.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You don't let me down.
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: That was the last time I saw my mother, not
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: to lift that rickety shack. Let's all go to the lobby.
• 30:25
  Speaker 15: Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to.
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: The lobby to get ourselves a treat.
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: In space, no one can hear you scream.
• 30:39
  Speaker 16: Alien, rated R from 20th Century Fox.
• 31:00
  Speaker 18: Don't tell me you don't know.
• 31:04
  Speaker 17: What love is.
• 31:05
  Speaker 18: When you're old enough to know that's love.
• 31:10
  Speaker 19: When you find strange hands and you're sweating tough.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: When you dream of turns out.
• 31:18
  Speaker 18: To be, but no, I'm a man with a mission.
• 31:23
  Speaker 19: And everywhere we've gone, we've sold out all the books,
• 31:28
  Speaker 19: and we've bought 200 at a time, and they're gone
• 31:32
  Speaker 19: on the first and second day.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: And it's resonating, and that's the miracle of it all,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: because you write a biography and you don't write a
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: second one. This is the one time, and it really is.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: It's really done very well, which I'm grateful for. Especially
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: if they reject your biography, they're rejecting you, so you...
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I was intending to burn myself in effigy, you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: if it didn't work.
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: It does have a lot at stake, I guess, more
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: so than just a novel.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: Okay, we are here with Lance, and just kind of
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: wanted to hit a few different things. I know most
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: of all these days you've got a book out and
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: you're trying to get the word out on that and
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: get that out there to people, but I just kind
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: of in general wanted to hit some of the basics
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: and With most people, I try to just sort of
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: get a feel for what led them into their career.
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: From what I do know, you had sort of an
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: unconventional childhood.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I guess everybody has one in a certain way. Mine
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: was a little more, I guess you might say, dramatic
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: than most. Hey, let's talk about something positive.
• 33:08
  Speaker 18: Okay.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Dakota just won the Medal of Honor. He's from Kentucky.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And so was Sergeant York. And one of my favorite directors,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Tom Wright, is from Kentucky. And it seems like you
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: have a breeding ground for really interesting people.
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there's some amazing people that come from here.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure. Anyway, it goes way back to
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the first bear hunter. What's his name?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: David Crockett or somebody like that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I guess, again, you've sort of got the
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: new book coming out, so I was going to ask,
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: I mean, you've sort of ended up enacting over the years.
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: Has writing been something that along the way was something
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: you had been becoming more interested in?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: No, no, writing, I've never been interested in writing. I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: wrote it with someone, and I would tell the stories,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and we would We worked on them together for over
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a year, and it ended up being a perfect match
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: because I think more in pictures than I do in words.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: It just ended up being a wonderful book. We named
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: it Not Bad for a Human because that was the
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: last line I had in Aliens. Ironically, on the sixth,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Entertainment Weekly is coming out with a, with the 25th
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: anniversary of Aliens. And then we went a few weeks
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: ago and took pictures, all of us, Jim Cameron and
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Simone Weaver and Paxton and Michael Biehn, and everybody was there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And it was like, it was a really wonderful day
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: because everyone was feeling like we had just finished the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: movie yesterday. That's how close friends we kind of felt
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: about each other. So it was a wonderful experience. So anyway,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: if we get to see that, that'll be coming out happening. Aliens,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: by the way, has become such a cult film. I mean,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: it's lasted forever and over these 25 years, and it
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: still holds up, which is unbelievable because it's, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: with all the things like CG that have happened and
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, it doesn't matter because Aliens works without it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's better than most CG stuff going
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: on today.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's too much of it, you know. I always
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: thought CG should be, you know, like when you write poetry,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: it should be used in a very limited way, you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that it's only to be used by, to do something
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: that couldn't be done any other way, but not make
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: a whole movie out of it. It's like too big
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: of a meal.
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: That's when it seems to work best, yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: It's a 20-course meal, and nobody can eat that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: It's too much to deal with all at once.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is, yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: Well, James Cameron, pretty early on, had taken a liking
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: to you. I guess, what was your relationship that early,
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: and why is it that you think he kept returning
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: to you over the years?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's a kindred spirit thing. I did
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: his first movie with him, and we were down in Jamaica,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: and there was no money, no budget, but he worked
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: his heart out, and I respect people that work hard,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you know, that are not, you know, they're not wanting
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: to start at the top. They just do what they,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: what they do and give it their all. And, and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: that kind of resonated with me. I like that word resonated,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: but anyway, it, uh, it, we became friends because, uh,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: we watched each other work and, and over the years
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: we've worked more together. And of course, Jim has shot
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: through the, uh, into the outer atmosphere with his work
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and his ability. And he's a very talented guy. And,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and so, uh, You don't need me to tell you that,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: but anyway, we've stayed friends over the years. I've actually
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: stayed friends with a lot of people that I've worked
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: with over the years because the experience was good, healthy.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: We did a lot of good work with a lot
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: of different people. That's why I mentioned Tom Wright. We
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: did half of the Millenniums together. Tom Wright is a director,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and when Millennium happened, We did over 60 shows, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I think Tom almost did.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: Half of them. Wow. As a director.
• 37:30
  Speaker 9: That's always good, just to give you a good vision
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: for kind of the look of the whole project.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a very talented director.
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: Well, with all your projects over the years, you seem
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: like you've been drawn to different genre projects. You've worked
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: in a lot of sci-fi, you've worked in a lot
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: of horror. Is it something that you were... interested in
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: yourself going into it or did they just sort of
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: you caught on in those genres and they kept coming
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: back to you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Well those genres are the only ones if you notice
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: they're they're mostly all that's out there you know i
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: mean science fiction fantasy horror i've done a lot of
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: westerns too i've done several westerns six or seven of
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: them and and uh you know i mean i don't
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I like storytelling. I mean, I really enjoy it, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I think the genre films are all morality plays, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: if you notice, Avatar is really a morality play. I mean,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: science fiction kind of took the place of westerns.
• 38:33
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: But I was born in that era where, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: where Tales from the Crypt was the comic books, and
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you know, that kind of thing. So I was raised
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: with it, and certainly the low-budget horror films were around
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid. I saw the thing, you know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the early one in black and white, and I was
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: very moved and impressed and shocked and scared and had
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun with them, with Bela Lugosi and
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. But, you know, I was
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: open to whatever was going to come my way. I've
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: done a lot of different kinds of movies, but But, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I guess I got very, I think Aliens was the
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: pivotal role that changed my acting career, certainly.
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: It was such an enormous hit that all of us
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: that were in it went on, you know, all of
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: us were still working. And so, it, you know, it, it,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: it kind of, that's the way it happened. You know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't, you can't plan anything. I've done
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: every kind of budget you can imagine, uh, because I
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: don't have any, I don't do low budget acting. So
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to do a low budget film.
• 39:44
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: I mean, we've discussed some of them on the show
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: and yeah, there's, there's, With any of them, even some
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: that are really low budget, you always kind of bring
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: that A game and it never shows in what you're
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: bringing to the screen.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, thank you.
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: That's a compliment.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: A compliment slipped out.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: Thank you very much.
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you've always done good work. You mentioned what you
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: were sort of drawn to there. I always like to
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: throw out, too, just what your interests are. We always
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: talk about what we watch on the show. What do
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: you like to do? watch or what your your favorite
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: type of movies or stuff like that well.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I'm you know what i'm i don't i don't go
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: with the hype you know i mean i i've got
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: a habit of not of not uh watching films when
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: they first come out because the hype distorts the you
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: know the presentation for me i like to see it
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: when i'm when i'm when i stumble on it and
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and i i i find some great pieces of work
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you know that people don't talk about there's a movie
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: called hannah that came out and, you know, it went,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: now it's on television, it's on pay-per-view and, you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: you can get it on, I think you can get
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: it even on Netflix.
• 40:54
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: But it's called Hannah and it's just this unbelievably startling,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: wonderful movie. And, and, and I, I enjoy movies, but I,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I enjoy finding them. It's almost like finding a book.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: You see, you read the jacket and then you, and
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: you get involved and then you read it. You know, I,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I love the, uh, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I saw all three of those movies from Sweden, but
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: before I saw them, I had read the books, Stig
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Larsson's books, and they're very heavy, thick books. And when
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I got to the final one, I couldn't put it
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: down for 900 pages, so I read it starting at
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: about 5 in the morning and didn't finish until maybe
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: 9 or 10 at night. But I get carried away
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: by it all, so it's great, and it's part of
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: what I do. Again, I think in pictures. So I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: saw it. I saw the movie before I saw the movie,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I do enjoy all of that, and I'm
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: an avid reader now. But in terms of my life,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I do. I make pottery, and I'm obsessed on pottery.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not just a potter like a little old lady
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: that paints.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: You know, paint spots with flowers and stuff. Or, you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I'm an obsessed potter. I make 36-inch platters and paint them.
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: Actually throwing the clay and getting.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do it all.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: I've got all the equipment and everything else.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: And my biggest thing is I don't sell them. I mean,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: when I first started pottery, I had to make hundreds
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: and hundreds of cups and goblets. And I stopped one
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: day and said, if I ever have to sell another one,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to do it again.
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: And of course.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: My career has given me enough money to where I
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: don't have to. Which makes me really happy.
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: It is its own art form. It's sort of underappreciated.
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: It is.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: You come from an area where Kentucky ball clay and
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: all the clays that you've got in Kentucky is some
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of the best in the world. I use a lot
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: of it. So I've been to Kentucky. Although I haven't
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: been to Kentucky.
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: You've handled the clay.
• 43:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I've handled your earth. But, you know, that's an obsession
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: that comes out of, you know, I have nobody telling
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: me what to do or where to be or anything else.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: And it's an art form that gives you meditation and
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: excitement over, you know, over real simple stuff like fire, dirt, water,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: and air.
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: The basic elements, yeah.
• 43:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: Oh, let's see. I mean, occasionally we sort of throw
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: one in there just as a movie, and I was
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: going to throw one out of yours and see if
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: you had any specific memories or anything of it. I've
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: just sort of discovered it in the last few years,
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: and then I ended up talking to William Forsythe a
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: couple years ago about Savage Dawn. What were your thoughts?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, well, yeah, Savage Dawn, there's a good one.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Forsythe and I, again, worked it later in Stone Cold.
• 44:06
  Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: He was my... Master of Arms in my biker club,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the one I did with Brian Bosworth.
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: But yeah, Savage, that was like an early kind of
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: lead role for you. That was sort of a big step,
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: I guess.
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was, yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: In its own way.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Anything with the name Savage in it, Savage Dawn, Savage Woman, Savage,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Savage Biker, Savage. Whenever you hear the name Savage, I
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: think you might not want to go see that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Movie, you know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: It's epic in its own way. It's amazing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even Kennedy was in that.
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: So it was like the director was this real... Anyway,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want to speak negative of anybody. He had
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: a particular energy that it's all going to happen by itself,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: which actually it can't. But it was funny. It was
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: a funny movie to work on.
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: It really was. I enjoyed it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, William seemed to like it, too. He still had
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: good memories, even though he talked about breaking his ankle
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: like the first.
• 45:13
  Speaker 15: Day of shooting.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, foresight did. And then he did the rest
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: of the movie with his leg in a cast. And
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he was on pain pills because you don't
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: ride a motorcycle with a cast. You just broke your
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: ankle and not have a pain pill or two. He's
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: a good guy at foresight.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: He really is.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: He's a really good guy. But again, you know, this
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about. You know, we're all trapped
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: in the same generation. Yeah. You know, really, you, me,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: everybody that's listening right now or interested right now. And
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: if you have a good experience, you never forget it.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: The reason I'm in the business really is keeping me
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: in it. is people, the people and the adventure. I mean,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not that concerned about becoming... A lot of things
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: happen externally, out of your control. But why I'm there
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: is I really enjoy the adventure of it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: Well, and just to get back to the book, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: was going to ask, I mean, you've been working through
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: all this and your whole life experience up to this point.
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: What was it?
• 46:24
  Speaker 15: Was there one.
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: key moment that made you decide to sort of put
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: it all down in written form.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Or well yeah i mean you know inevitably somebody will
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: ask you you know i've been asked three or four
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: times about writing a biography and i and i always
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: said no it's not over yet you know and i
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: and i didn't really have any way of trusting the
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: people that asked me at first you know yeah and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: and one of the things that happened the reason i
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: wrote this one now at this particular time was Joe
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Madre is a co-writer, and one of the things that
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: happened was he had written Nightmares in Red, White, and Blue,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: and it was a documentary on genre films from the beginning,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: American genre films, horror films from the very.
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: Beginning of our.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Making horror films. And he wanted me to narrate it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: They called my agent and asked if I would narrate it,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: and so I did. And in the process of narrating it,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: we became friends. You know, we were talking a lot.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And afterwards, him and I, after that was done, and it's.
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: Out, by the way.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: It's a really good DVD. It's a terrific documentary. It's
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: called Nightmares in Red.
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: White, and Blue.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: But anyway, we became friends. And after about a year
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: of knowing him, we were thinking of writing some projects together,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: you know, working on either a film or something for
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: the History Channel. I wanted to do a kind of
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: blasphemous series on pottery to get people really understanding what
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: it was. And I was going to call it Lick
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: My Bowls.
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: That should usually, I'd say that would get people's attention, yeah.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: That would get your attention.
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: I think so.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: And it was really, you know, the philosophy behind it
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: was when you're eating off of a white plate, which
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: everybody seems to do, It's equivalent to eating out of
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: your kitchen sink or off your toilet bowl because it's not...
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: There are so many beautiful ways of making pottery where
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: the food looks wonderful and everything and everybody settles for
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: sanitary-looking foodware, which I think is hideous.
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: But anyway... Boring.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: That was the philosophy behind it. We were going to
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: go travel the world pretty much and show different potters
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and their eccentric lives.
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: But anyway....
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: That's still in the process, really, at the back of
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: our minds. But Joe finally came to me and said,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: would I write a biography? Would I be interested in
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: working with him doing a biography? And I said, I'll
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: tell you what, I'll do it. But if we get
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: halfway through and it's mediocre, or I'm not telling the truth,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: or it's full of lies and bullshit, I... Excuse me,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do a curse on your show.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: Oh, you can. It's fine.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: But I said, we'll throw it out.
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: Never look back.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: We'll just throw it away. And he said, okay, it's
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: a deal. And we worked on it, and we got it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: halfway through and realized that this thing is writing itself now.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: It took a lot of work to get started, but
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: once we got into it, it turned out really well.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: So that's how that happened.
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: What was the process itself? You say you were just
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: sort of storytelling?
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: No, we were.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Well, we would spend hours every day and record stories
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: and incidents and everything else, and then Joe would write it,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: and we'd get together again and go over it and over.
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: It and over it.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And it was a wonderful process, and it worked out
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: very well. Look, the main thing is I have no
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: pretensions of being a writer. I am a storyteller, but
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not a writer. Because I think in pictures and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: most writers think in words. That's a different breed. Because
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: of my lack of education, I had no desire to
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: be a writer. There are some things in life that
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: you really don't want to be the bride at every
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: wedding and the corpse at every funeral. In other words,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: if you don't hold out one thing or two things
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: in your life that you don't do that you can enjoy,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: you're really... you know, putting yourself into the corner of
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: the room.
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: You know, it's not.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Life has got to feel a bit sweeter than having
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: us all have to do everything. It doesn't work that way. Yeah, definitely.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: You know, so I was very happy to have that experience.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: It's changed me, for sure, to have gone through it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I think everybody should write a biography, whether you publish
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: it or not is another thing, but it would be
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: good to know yourself.
• 50:59
  Speaker 9: You've mentioned having, you know, sort of seen things visually.
• 51:02
  Speaker 9: Has it ever... wanted to take you to the other
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: side of the camera a little more and get into
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: more directing?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's almost too late for that for me.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I know there's one movie I'm going to be doing
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: that I will direct and I'll be in it. I
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: want to make a film on George Orr. He was
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: a potter back in the 1800s in Biloxi, Mississippi. And
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: his life was just incredible. I think it is a
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: very poignant film. So, I will be doing that. There's
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. I'm working toward.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: It.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: It all takes time, but it will happen.
• 51:40
  Speaker 9: I would like to see what you do once you
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: get behind the camera. That sounds pretty good.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: It's another adventure. I'm not afraid of anything. There are
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: a few things I'm afraid of, but in terms of
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the arts, I'm not afraid to indulge in whatever that
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: adventure is.
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: Definitely. That will happen.
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: I guess in looking back and putting the book together
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: and just everything, is there sort of a grand message?
• 52:07
  Speaker 9: Is it something you've learned from all of this that
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: you would want to pass on to, I guess, just
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: people in general or just actors and writers?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: My suggestion would be read the book.
• 52:17
  Speaker 9: Well, yeah, of course.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Read the book and you'll know. You'll have the answer
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: to that question. That's a rough question, you know, you
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: just asked.
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a huge.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: You.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Want me to sum myself up? Okay, I'll try.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: But.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: But the book really, it doesn't sum me up, but
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: it certainly has some ideas that I'm really happy to
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: pass on. You know, a really interesting thing happened. I
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: was on a plane flying back from Atlanta, and I
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: got in a conversation. I was flying first class coming back,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: and a business analyst guy was sitting next to me,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: and He seemed to be affable, and so we talked
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I told him what I was doing
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta, and I had brought my books. He said, well,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: what's the name of your book? And I told him,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: and he took his.
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: iPad out and ordered the book right.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: On the plane and was sitting there reading it while
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I was sleeping.
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: And I said, And I woke up and he says,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a really interesting book. He had almost
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: finished it by the time the flight was over. The
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: guy was sitting there reading my book. sitting right next
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: to me on a plane, a guy that I didn't
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: even know.
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: Now, that's an experience, buddy.
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: And then he'd never heard of it when he got
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: on the plane.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't know anything about it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: It's a different world just in the last five or
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: six years. It's changed so drastically.
• 53:50
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, talk about being part of a tribe. My God,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: we're sitting in an aluminum tube.
• 53:58
  Speaker 12: You know?
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Where we used to sit around a campfire talking about
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: our lives, you know, and we're on an aluminum tube
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and he orders it up on a, you know, ones
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: and O's screen and he finds out the most intimate
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: things about my life and looks at me and says,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: that was interesting. That's his comment. And I wanted to
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: say to him, what do you mean interesting? Tell me
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: what you, what's your reaction? I hope you haven't shit yourself.
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, Now that's a drastic reaction.
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's really funny. Life is funny, man.
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: Well, aside from the book, is there a future project
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: you want to tell people about?
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I have a movie that I'm going to be doing
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: called Ambush. An amazing thing happened. We shot the first
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: 20 minutes so that the director.
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: Who wrote it.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Could raise the money to do the movie. And when
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the script came in, the first 20 pages of the script,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: my agent called me and said, Lance, you've got to
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: do this. You've got to read this thing. And he
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: got it to me. It all took place within an hour.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: The guy sent it to my agent. My agent read it.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: My agent called me and said, you have to do this.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: You've got to read it. So he emailed it to me,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: and I read it. And I said, oh, I don't
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: care what they offer for me to do this. Let's
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: do it. So we went and shot it, and then
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: he cut it together. It is the opening, absolutely the
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: opening of the film. And so some time has gone by,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: maybe five or six months, and he entered it into
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: a film festival, a short film festival. And now remember,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: this is only the first 20 pages of the movie.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: And suddenly, with this thing that was almost perfect, it
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: had the titles, it had everything, And we won the festival.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: And this was only meant to be a teaser to
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: see what the movie was going to look like because
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: of the character I was playing. We won that festival.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Now it's going to try to be in Sundance and
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: everywhere else. And he's going to raise the money for
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: the movie based on this thing. And I was blown
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: away by that.
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: I never heard of it.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Somebody doing a trailer and winning a film festival.
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: Starting to see that, though. There's a couple of directors
• 56:23
  Speaker 9: lately that, yeah, they do a short film that ends
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: up online, and then a year later somebody's funding a
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: new project that's pretty much them.
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: This wasn't online.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: This was a tangible film festival where a lot of
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: people were involved in it. So that's one that's happening,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: and the other one is an Australian director. I did
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: a short in Australia called Message from Fallujah. And it
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: was basically an anti-war short. And we won the Los
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Angeles Short Film Festival with that. And he got a
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: prize and all this stuff. And we stayed, our relationship
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: stayed during and after that. And now he's come to
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: the States with a movie called Michigan Turnpike. And we're
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: going to try to be shooting that by the spring.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff going on. I have Another
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: thing that's happened, and we've already shot it, is called
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Bring Me the Head of Lance Henriksen.
• 57:27
  Speaker 12: Nice.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: And it's a movie about ageism in the industry, where
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: it's a comedy, really, and it's all improvised, the whole thing.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: And it's about this main character who's played by Tim Thomerson,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: who every time he goes up for a job, I've
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: already got the job.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: You know, I've got an offer that's already out to me,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and I have to decide whether I want to make
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: the movie or not. And it frustrates him so bad
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: he becomes a stalker. Because he wants to find out
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: how the hell I do it.
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: I can see that coming out of Tim.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very funny. It's very funny. We've shot it.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: My hope is that it becomes a half-hour comedy series
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: on Showtime or HBO. Yeah, it's... because it's got language
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: and it's all improvised, you know, Adrian Barbeau's in it,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: all these wonderful actors are in it, John Saxon, you know,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: it's about, it's really about ageism in the industry, you know.
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: It's got that inside Hollywood thing that's sort of down
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: the zone, yeah.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: It's more like the personal stories, you know, the personal
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: frustrations of people and they're really talking about things that, that,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: here we go again, resonate with them, you know.
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: So, Sounds good, too. Yeah, you've got a lot of
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: good stuff in the works.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: Oh, hell yeah.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Everybody does, every actor that's ever walked on the stage.
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: Other than that, yeah, I guess after Scarefest, is there
• 58:57
  Speaker 9: any other stops you're going to be making that you
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: wanted to get out there to people or tell them
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: where to look for you later.
• 59:02
  Speaker 21: In the year?
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I like to do things one at a time. I'm
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: going to be going to Worcester, Mass., and then down
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: to Orlando, and then... the book tour is over. I'll
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: have done almost 12 shows. By the time I'm done
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: with this, I'll have been across the country 20 trips.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: That's too much in two months.
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a lot of travel.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been to Toronto and Chicago and all over
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: the country. It's just incredible. And I'm tired of flying,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: because I'm tired of getting on an airplane and watching
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: everybody reading my book on Kindle, Nook, and iPad.
• 59:42
  Speaker 9: Oh, that's not too bad, though. Get more people reading
• 59:44
  Speaker 9: that book. Once again, the book is not bad for
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: a human, and tell everybody to go out there, and
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: even if they don't catch you on the rest of
• 59:50
  Speaker 9: this tour, go out and buy it or download it
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: and get reading it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: We're running the only books I'm bringing are the limited
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: edition they're hardbacks and they're by the way all the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: art in it are some of the best comic book
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: artists in the world I mean Sinkevich and Ashley Wood
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: from Australia and Eric Powell and all of these you
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: know Mandrake is in it you know all these great
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: artists decided they wanted to be in my book so
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: rather than I wanted to make the book more accessible
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: to fans and to people. So rather than using publicity
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: shots from movies, all of these guys did their choice
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: of the film, and they did a beautiful drawing, and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: they're all in there. And oddly enough, none of them
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: picked the same movie.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 9: You've got a lot to work from, so yeah.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and they did beautiful work. You see
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: the cover of that? Sienkiewicz, he did that.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: That portrait sounds good.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Pretty cool stuff man I have an attitude of gratitude
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: about all of it believe me that's my life.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: That's the way I live well we will send everybody
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: out there to go look for it so yeah there
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 9: you go buddy I guess thanks for talking with us
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: today okay my.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 22: Friend Potter, hear the clay. Say, mow me in thy way.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 17: That I may share this love and steal in me.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 22: With skillful hands perform the task. Just like thee, Lord God.
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  Speaker 9: All right, we are back with our special guest this week, Mr.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 9: Pat Kilbane. I guess we can do a little intro
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: on you first off. I don't know, where would you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: like to begin? How far would you like to go back?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 15: Oh, well, most people know me from MADtv.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 20: I was on there three years, and I was in
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 20: a Seinfeld episode, The Bizarro Jerry. I was Bizarro Kramer.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 9: Legendary episode.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I was in the Manhands episode also.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 15: That was fun.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 20: And I've been in a... A handful of movies. There's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 20: an Evolution, Semi-Pro, Day of the Dead. I did an
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 20: episode of My Name is Earl that I had a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 20: great time with. I was a world champion grocery bagger.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: I remember that.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 20: We had the grocery duel, Karate Kid style. I had
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 20: to juggle apples and all this stuff to show my prowess.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 20: I've recently written a zombie book called The Brain Eater's Bible,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 20: which is a book by zombies. By a zombie for zombies.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 20: It's kind of a combination of self-help book and instructional
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 20: manual for killing and eating people.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: So it's the opposite of the survival guide.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 15: Yeah, kind of.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: It's how to work the other end.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 15: In worst-case scenario, if you get infected.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 20: And that's why I'm here at Scarefest, talking about the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 20: book and all that.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 9: Working the horror end of it.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: Um you've been doing stand-up too i know you did
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 9: you have sets last night you.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 20: Said yeah yeah i've been doing shows here in town
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 20: during scare fest so it makes for long days you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 20: know you do radio in the morning and tv and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 20: then you come to the convention and then at night
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 20: you know a couple of shows and.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: Then some idiot makes you do a podcast yeah wow
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: how about that unforgivable that's usually how it goes so
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: yeah so how was the stand-up.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 20: It was great you know i think attendance suffered some
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 20: from the ball game which was the football game was
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 20: huge here in town you know but uh um yeah
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 20: great crowds definitely comedy off broadway is a it's a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 20: great independently owned club so i always have fun.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: There cool yeah did you guys have any random questions
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: or i think we're all big uh jason lee fans
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: how was he on the uh on the set with
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 9: my name is earl.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 20: Very gracious yeah jason was really nice guy and everybody
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 20: was and it's funny how um you can kind of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 20: tell the The attitude on the set always comes from
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 20: the top down. So if there's a jerk at the top,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 20: then everybody's disgruntled. And you know that you're not going
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 20: to have a good week there.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 15: But yeah, from the beginning, everybody was really nice.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 20: Greg Garcia, who's the executive producer, he's the guy who
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 20: hired me, really kind. And they were all very open
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 20: to You know, my adding lines and, you know, making
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 20: suggestions and stuff. And, you know, as an artist, you
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 20: want that. You want to be able to contribute. So, yeah,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 20: that was fun. A little background noise from the convention.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 9: No telling.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 15: There's no problem.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: I guess, is semi-pro probably your most screen time? That's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 9: a pretty decent role.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 15: Well, you know, screen time-wise, probably Meet Dave.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 20: So I don't know how you want to calculate screen time,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 20: like the number of people who have seen it, you know?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 15: That's a different, yeah. Or the amount of actual minutes,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 15: you know?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 20: But, yeah, in Meet Dave, I played the weapons officer
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 20: on the starship that.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 15: Is this person.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 9: That is Dave.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 15: Yeah, Dave is the starship.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 20: And after spending some time on Earth, this really straight-laced
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 20: military type discovers he's flamboyantly gay and gay. You know,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 20: it takes on a whole different personality. So I really
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 20: had to do kind of two completely different characters. And, yeah,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 20: so it was an exercise for me acting-wise. I got
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 20: to do a lot of stuff and had a lot
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 20: of screen time. But then almost nobody.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 15: Not just nobody almost.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 9: Nobody that hit at the point where everybody started to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 9: really dislike eddie murphy it's like he had this wave
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: and it's like he hit this lull and it's weird
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: that now they've handed him the oscars because right it
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 9: yeah within the last few years outside of shrek it's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: like seems like nothing he's done has been well received
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 9: so yeah i.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 20: Don't know i mean you know nutty professor yeah it's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 20: just yeah i caught part of that on tv a
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 20: few days ago and And he really is really good
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 20: at it. I mean, you know, kind of the subtle
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 20: emotional moments he plays as the, I don't remember what
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 20: the names are, the fat version.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: The clumps or something, yeah.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 20: I mean, he's really good. And the guy is just
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 20: a comedic genius, like bonafide.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: He's got it and, yeah, was kind of doing weird
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: things with it. But, yeah, even if you watch him
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: in that, like that was my favorite part is him
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 9: outside of his, you know, wearing tons of makeup, which
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: is almost overdone anymore.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: He's really good at that performance he's really good at
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: just being kind of subtle and this shy character and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 9: then when he's himself he's really not likable and great
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: that's supposed to be but it's funny how much you
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: like him as the other guy.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 20: Right yeah he is good at that yeah definitely so yeah,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 20: I don't know what the disconnect is there. You know,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 20: some of the stuff's great and some of it's not. But, yeah,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 20: the magic is there inside somewhere, you know. So hopefully
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 20: it kills the Oscars.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 9: And then, I guess, Semi-Pro, what was that? I mean,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 9: how much training did you have to do going into that?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 20: Oh, that was, um, I mean, I'm not a big
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 20: basketball guy. You know, I had enough training. I can
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 20: dribble and I can shoot like believably.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 9: You can fool people if you're tall.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 20: And that was, that was most of it, you know,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 20: tall plus funny, narrowed it down to a very small
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 20: field of guys that could play this role.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 9: You're going to start specializing in basketball.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 15: You know, it's funny early on in my career.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 20: I think, uh, for a while, like four out of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 20: five things that I'd done were basketball and, you know, I,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 20: I played a basketball player on Arliss. I did some
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 20: PlayStation commercials that were basketball. I did a movie, The
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 20: New Jersey Turnpikes, that never became even DVD.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 15: That's how bad that was. But, you know, that was basketball.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 8: I'm like, wow.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 20: I never really played that much to be getting all
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 20: these basketball roles. But, yeah, so for semi-pro, I think
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 20: we had three weeks of camp, you know, where we
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 20: had to learn all the plays that would be shot
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 20: in the movie.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: And.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 20: You know, they brushed us up on our passing and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 20: dribbling skills, just get our legs back acquainted with the
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 20: hard court and stuff. And, yeah, I was soaking in
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 20: buckets of ice. You know, like big tubs of ice
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 20: up to my knees every night after practice. It's like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 20: not a good thing to do, like in your late 30s,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 20: to suddenly start running up and down the hardwoods. for
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 20: many hours a day.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah they usually don't take up pro sports that late.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 20: Yeah not a good idea plus we wore like when
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 20: we were shooting we wore the vintage shoes oh nice
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 20: you know which have almost no padding in them.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 9: Chuck Taylor's I think I'm wearing them now yeah right there's.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 15: No padding designed to blow your ankle out.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 20: If you happen to play in them yeah it was
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 20: fun I mean it was like fantasy camp for basketball
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 20: it's like I'm playing basketball with Will Ferrell and Andre
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 20: 3000 and Woody Harrelson and a couple of guys from
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 20: the NBA, and it doesn't get better than that.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 9: Are there special rules, no technical fouls on Will Ferrell?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 15: Yeah, they did.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 20: He was the $ 20 million man, so it's like you're
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 20: definitely not supposed to go too hard on him.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 15: I think D.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 20: Ray Davis, who played one of the guys on the Tropics,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 20: the Flint, Michigan Tropics, which is Will Ferrell's team, I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 20: checked him, uh you know that you do the what
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 20: do you call it um picking you know when you
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 20: pick you know you basically place your body as an
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 20: instruction in front of somebody and we were we were
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 20: rehearsing and i just i was too overzealous and i
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 20: just laid my shoulder right into his mouth and i
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 20: just felt so bad because it was just rehearsal even
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 20: it's like you don't do that while the camera's rolling
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 20: let alone rehearsal I felt bad. He might have even
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 20: left teeth marks on my shoulder.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 15: I hit him that hard. But fortunately it didn't bleed.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 9: I'm really method. I've got to do this.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 20: I was playing a really mean guy, so I felt
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 20: I had to. I had to bring up something extra.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: Nice.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: Other than if you had anything else on Mad TV.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 9: I've heard different stories from different people that were on
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: it over the years. I didn't know if What your
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 9: take on it was?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 15: Well, I mean, you know, there are a lot of
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 15: different perspectives.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 20: I mean, there are a lot of different subjects.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 15: On which you can have a take as far as
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 15: Mad TV.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 20: I feel like quality-wise, it was great the years that
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 20: I was there and could have been even better. And
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 20: I think that's something I always struggle with as an artist.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 20: You know, it's like you kind of see where things
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 20: are and then you see the potential for where they
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 20: could be.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: And then.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 15: frustration is everything in between. And I felt like, especially.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 20: In 1999, when we were really at the peak of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 20: our strength, and Saturday Night Live was really kind of
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 20: in a lull, I thought we could take these guys.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 15: We could finally beat them ratings-wise. But yeah, it's just.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 20: From a standpoint of the artistic decision-making at the top,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 20: they never wanted to get quite aggressive enough to do that.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 15: Some of the more.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 20: Wilder sketches, the crazier stuff that would really get you
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 20: talked about and noticed, they shied away from it. I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 20: feel like they didn't fully use the writing and acting
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 20: talent they had. That's not to complain.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 15: It was a great job. All in all, I felt
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 15: like the show was great.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 20: It's not like it was a failing, but I did
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 20: feel like there's a missed opportunity, a gold medal we
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 20: could have had.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 9: It seems like the network was almost not making use
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 9: of it either they they seem like they moved it
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: around or they weren't promoting it or yeah because it's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 9: after a while even I was like wait it's still
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 9: on this year and it seemed like they weren't even
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 9: promoting it towards the end.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 20: Of the run yeah they really didn't and you know
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 20: Fox didn't own the show yeah and I don't know
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 20: what you guys know about how that works but you
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 20: know there are shows that are produced and owned by
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 20: the network and then there are those shows that are
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 20: produced by an independent production company that are then paid
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 20: a license fee by the network And whoever owns the
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 20: show is the one that gets all the gigantic residual
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 20: money when something goes into syndication. So if the network
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 20: doesn't own the show, they're always looking for something else
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 20: that they do own that they can stick in there.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 20: And they're never fully invested in making that thing soar.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 20: So yeah, the promotion was always a little bit anemic.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 20: And I'm so tired right now, I almost said amoebic,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 20: you know, which wouldn't have.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: Made a lot of sense.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: That would be an interesting show, too. What would that mean?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 15: But, yeah, and the budget was cut every year.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 20: So in spite of good ratings, you know, you think
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 20: that if you keep your ratings, you should keep your budget.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: At least still.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 15: But the budget went down and down and down.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 9: It would go the other way the longer you were on.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 8: Right, yeah.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 9: Interesting.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 20: Yeah, so I guess by the time we were done,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 20: or by the time Mad TV was done, they were
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 20: shooting basically in the wardrobe storage area of the sounds,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 20: like the whole rest of the sound stage where we
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 20: used to do all our live performances.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 15: Somebody else was using that.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 20: And then just the hair and makeup and wardrobe area
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 20: was now where they crowded in a little audience.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: Oh, God.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 20: But the crazy thing is that they were talented, the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 20: kids were talented enough still to do it.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 15: And it was still getting ratings. You know, so, I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 15: don't know. It was an interesting beast.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 9: Very strange.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 9: Well, I guess before we get into the movie, I'll
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 9: let you go ahead and tell people where they can
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 9: find you. And what is, I guess, website is the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: best way to get a hold of you?
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 15: Yeah. You know, find me on Facebook.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 20: It's facebook.com slash the Pat Kilbane page. Or TV's Pat Kilbane,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 20: depending on whether you want to be a fan or
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 20: really be my friend.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 9: That's how the world works.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 15: Whether you just want to like me or whether you
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 15: want to really talk to me. Really be my friend.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 20: But, yeah, or patkilbane.com is the site where I kind
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 20: of post about what I'm doing, science fiction stuff, musings
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 20: and whatnot.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: Very cool.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 8: So, yeah.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 15: All right.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 9: Go find Pat. In the meantime, we'll take a break
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 9: here and be back with this week's movies.
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  Speaker 3: Outside the Cinema, your source for cult movie discussion.
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  Speaker 15: It's time for Sofa Theater.
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  Speaker 14: I don't believe this. You guys throw me at the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 14: wolves and now you want.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 15: Me to go back out there?
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  Speaker 8: Forget it.
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  Speaker 14: It's not my problem.
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  Speaker 9: Can I finish?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 15: There's no way.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 9: Ripley, you wouldn't be going in with the troops.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 12: I can guarantee your safety.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 15: These colonial marines are very tough hombres. They're packing state-of-the-art firepower.
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  Speaker 15: There's nothing they can't handle.
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  Speaker 9: Lieutenant, am I right?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 15: That's true. We've been trained to deal with situations like this.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 10: Fine, then you don't need me.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 15: I'm not a soldier. Yeah, but we don't know exactly
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 15: what's going on out there. It may just be a
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 15: downed transmitter, okay?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 20: But if it's not, I would like you there as
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 20: an advisor.
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  Speaker 15: And that's all.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: They're coming!
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: They're breathing!
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: They're feeding!
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Aliens.
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  Speaker 17: Aliens.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 12: Aliens.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Aliens. Aliens. Aliens.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: Did you make it through the movie?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 12: No.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 8: What, Aliens?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 9: I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 22: I know.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 9: I'll just.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 15: It'll all work out fine.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 15: We'll carry the ball from.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 9: The alien denial of the human race. Just go with that.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 12: I mean, I've fallen asleep through many of the movies
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 12: and still had a lot to say.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 9: That's true.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 12: Even though I really had no idea.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 15: That's a good character. That's a specialty.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 10: How did you not make it to the end and
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: just not like it?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 12: Oh, I just didn't watch it.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 15: Master of the uninformed opinion.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 12: Funny story. There's really only one movie rental place in Louisville,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 12: and that's Wild and Wooly. And a couple months ago, Jessica,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 12: who wandered off, she rented Dolls. And forgot to take
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 12: it back for like three weeks. So now I owe
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 12: Wild and Wooly like $ 400.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 9: Oh, no.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 15: Oh, that's so painful.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 15: You could have gone to the store and bought 20 movies.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 12: I know, I know.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 9: Here's a stack of dolls.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 12: There. I'm like, four dolls, really? Had to keep this
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 12: movie for like a month.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 9: Oh, Lord. Well, you can wing whenever you want to. Yeah. Otherwise,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 9: we are back with this week's Silver Theater feature. This
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 9: week's Silver Theater feature is Aliens. The year is 1986,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 9: director James Cameron. The plot, as usual, according to IMDb,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: and as usual, it's pretty bad. The planet from Alien
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 9: has been colonized, but contact is lost. This time, the
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 9: rescue team has impressive firepower, but will it be enough?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 9: I don't think that does this movie justice.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 20: I'm sorry.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 15: No, I don't think it does.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 9: I think a four-year-old wrote that. I'm sorry.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 20: It's a good thing whoever that person was didn't create
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 20: the trailer because nobody would have seen it.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, really. That would be sad.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 15: That's the basic information.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 9: Spoiler alert, for the love of God, if you haven't
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 9: seen this movie outside of Marlena, just go watch this
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 9: movie because it's your own fault.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 15: It's amazing.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: I'm sure we're going to spoil the hell out of it.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 9: All right, where would you guys like to begin?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 20: Well, we could talk about... Let's talk about it as
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 20: a sequel.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 20: You know, vis-a-vis the original Alien, which I saw on
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 20: your list. You guys have already talked about Alien.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 9: We did cover that one. It's been a while ago,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 9: but it's... Yeah, it's... I think... It's weird to me
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 9: how it does sort of, like, impressively follow suit, and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 9: you do sort of feel like it's the same universe
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 9: and the same style and look, but takes on an
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 9: entirely different feel and personality and... almost themes, I mean,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 9: it really becomes a different movie, and it becomes James
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 9: Cameron's movie, but it's funny having to follow in the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 9: footsteps of, you know, a pretty impressive director in its
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 9: own right.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he really found a way, especially kind of an
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 9: up-and-coming director at that time, to really make it his own,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 9: which was pretty impressive.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 20: Yeah, it was really brilliant, I thought, you know, and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 20: And I guess if you think of it like if
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 20: there's a house with different rooms that you're decorating, and
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 20: you want kind of one theme in one room and
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 20: another theme in another room, they still have to go together.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 20: They're different rooms, but they still have to kind of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 20: match enough that they don't feel like they're from a
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 20: different house. And that's kind of what it seems like
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 20: what he did. He carried enough threads through in terms
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 20: of the look of things and the way it was
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 20: shot and the colors.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 20: But, you know, obviously made it a very different kind
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 20: of movie. You know, a much faster moving, kind of
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 20: larger than life characters. Or, not unbelievable characters, but, you know,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 20: bigger characters, I think, than the very organic kind of
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 20: types that you saw in the movie Alien.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 9: Kind of the opposite. I mean, they're all so subdued
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 9: in Alien. And everybody is just like, another day on
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 9: the job. They're just sort of trudging along through space
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 9: where this is, you know, kick ass, ready to... Chew
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 9: up the scenery, Bill Paxton. Right, yeah, exactly. I mean, yeah,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 9: you get some very big, yeah, personalities thrown in there.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I found that interesting that, you know, he did
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 20: do some of it with, you know, the Marines, the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 20: Colonial Marines were kind of complaining about the day on
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 20: the job and it's And the truckers in space thing
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 20: that they did with Alien, you know, these just regular
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 20: blue-collar guys kind of complaining about life. And he made
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 20: sure to kind of include that, you know, the food
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 20: is bad, everybody's tired, you know, all this stuff that's
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 20: consistent with the military.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 9: You get a little of that. But, yeah, compared to,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's like half the movie in Alien, where
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 9: this is like, you know, the first ten minutes with them,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 9: and then they're knee-deep in it.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: Right, yeah.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 20: But, yeah, just awesome. I was really impressed. You know,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 20: I felt like he brought it up. just the right amount.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 20: Like you can't just, you know, he said he didn't
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 20: want to just do the same thing again. You know,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 20: you have to escalate. And yeah, going at them with firepower,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 20: you know, is kind of the next logical step.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 15: And it was exciting to see, you know.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 9: And the adding, you know, the pluralizing of it. I mean,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 9: it's like we've already seen the one lone alien on this,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: which again, it really is more of a horror movie.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 9: It's a haunted house in space with a monster waiting
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 9: to jump out and get you the first time around.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 9: This one becomes a battle, and it really is. I mean,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 9: by throwing all these other aliens into the mix, it
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 9: changes the scenario. It changes the way that the horror
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 9: element works. I mean, it really is more of you
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 9: have to play on the suspense of, you know, the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 9: attack more so than just this one thing lurking around
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 9: the corner.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 9: It changes that whole dynamic by adding all these other
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 9: aliens to it.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 20: Yeah, James Cameron said that he basically, or maybe it
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 20: was Gail Ann Hurd said, it's basically.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 15: A combat movie. That's what they wanted to do.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 20: And I think that it was 45 minutes before anything
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 20: really happens in the movie.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 9: But it doesn't feel like it.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 17: No, not at all.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 20: I mean, there are things that happen story-wise, but in
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 20: terms of action. And anybody who's seen the first Alien
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 20: knows how indestructible and deadly these things are. And so
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 20: you're nervous waiting to see what happens when they first
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 20: encounter them.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 15: And there's that.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 20: Amazing chilling moment when Sigourney Weaver says to Newt, these
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 20: people are soldiers, they're here to protect us. And she says,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 20: it won't make any difference. And it just chills up
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 20: your spine as a viewer because you know how bad
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 20: those aliens are.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, just watching that, don't you think you'll be safer
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 9: here with us? She just shakes her head.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 15: It won't make any difference.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 9: It's frightening.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 15: Yeah, just awesome.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 20: Anyway, in a nutshell, it was exactly what a sequel
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 20: called for. And I think that was the failing of
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 20: subsequent sequels. They tried to go backwards then.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 9: I think that's what hurt Alien 3 is you've got
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 9: a battle with hundreds of aliens and then you're back
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 9: to one again. It's like, well, we saw this.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 15: You can't just make it creepy again that.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 9: Was in the 70s we've gotten past that now so
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: yeah it's like we need something even more ridiculous so
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 9: yeah then we get to aliens versus predators.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 20: But um yeah i think uh you want to talk
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 20: about uh like production design a.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 9: Little bit yeah not visually yeah and and.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 20: Uh this is you know where i love james cameron
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 20: is his attention to detail is just insane yeah and
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 20: i i guess he's a gun guy you know and
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 20: he likes to shoot guns and all that stuff and
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 20: And the.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 15: Guns were just awesome.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 20: You know, I mean, the under-barrel grenade launcher, you know,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 20: so you've got an automatic rifle with a pump-action grenade
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 20: launcher under it.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 15: It's just so butch.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 9: Or just the size of someone. Like, the one Vasquez
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: is carrying is as big as she is.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: Right, yeah.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 9: And she's still badass enough to carry it around.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 9: But that thing is massive.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 20: Basically, it's just, you know, a squad machine gun. Usually
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 20: it's manned by two or three people, you know, but just.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 15: That's the one Latina chick's carrying it around.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 9: She's a badass.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, totally.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 20: But, you know, if you look at something like, if
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 20: you look at Halo, I mean, if you look at
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 20: the dropships in Halo, if you look at the marine
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 20: armor in Halo, the rifles, I mean, it's like James
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 20: Cameron should be getting a residual check for all that
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 20: stuff because he so nailed the idea of the military
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 20: in space, a recognizable military in space that.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 15: it's been imitated many, many times thereafter.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 9: That's what I noticed even years ago was just not
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 9: so much that it's a sci-fi movie or horror movie,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 9: but just how military it is. Like it, it plays
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 9: almost better than a lot of like modern day war movies.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 9: Like it's almost a little more realistic in the way
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 9: that it, you know, plays within the military mindset and
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 9: the way that they operate than a lot of real movies.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 20: It's funny that, um, Yeah, and he's the kind of
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 20: guy who would make sure that that's the case.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely. He said there was some kind of ode to.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 20: Or a reference to the Vietnam War, and this was
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 20: in the special features he talked about, how in Vietnam
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 20: there was a technologically superior force that was invading the
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 20: terrain of a technologically inferior force, but still the natives
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 20: kind of won the day because they had the determination,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 20: they knew the terrain, and And that's kind of what
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 20: happened with the aliens.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 15: But, well, he just did a hell of a job.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 20: And you know, that movie was, you know, it wasn't
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 20: Star Wars in terms of, like, the box office that
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 20: it did.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 20: But to this day, there are, like, colonial marine groups
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 20: that make their own armor and they get together and
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 20: have meetings.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 9: You see him at this place?
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 15: It's just, it's that cool.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 9: I see him walking around.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 8: He really succeeded. Yeah. Yeah, totally.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 9: It's held up through the years.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 20: You know, another thing, I think, you know, we talked
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 20: a little bit about the characters and how they're, you know,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 20: kind of bigger than.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 15: What was in Alien.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 20: But I still think he succeeded in making it organic. And,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 20: you know, everybody in the movie Alien you believed was
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 20: a person, you know. Nobody was like soap opera actor guy.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 20: You know, everybody looked like they were in the working world.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 20: And I feel like also with aliens, like, I don't
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 20: know if you remember the woman who was the corpsman
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 20: that was taking care of Newt and diagnosed her as
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 20: having mild malnutrition and stuff.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 15: It's like she looked like a Marine.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 20: You know, she wasn't some model chick, you know, that
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 20: they hired and put armor on. You see that happen
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 20: a lot.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 8: All of that, yeah.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 15: They put, you know, people who are not believable in
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 15: these roles.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 9: Or the pilot. The pilot behaved like a pilot. She
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 9: was kind of like a little badass. Even among them,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 9: she's like, yeah, I'm flying this ship. She had the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 9: shades on. She behaved very much like a pilot. It
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 9: was pretty true.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 20: And I can't help but believe that in someone else's
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 20: hands you would have had people who just look like
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 20: actors out of central casting or soap opera casting, like
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 20: I was saying.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I guess for the sequel of The Thing, lots
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 15: of banging doors here.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 20: You'd think a door would shut once and the noise
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 20: would be done, but there's all kinds of special things happening.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 15: But, uh, uh-oh. The power tools come out.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 12: Jesus.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 15: Here we are on the deck of the Sulaco. The
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 15: power loader's coming out momentarily.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 9: We need to remote pilot the drop ship and get
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 9: the hell out of here.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 20: But, yeah, I was just saying, with the movie The Thing,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 20: it was the same idea that they used people who
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 20: were just really believable, organic, everyday people. And I saw
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 20: with the sequel, you know, I saw a couple of
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 20: people they cast listed in the Hollywood Reporter, and I thought, no,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 20: you know, these people, you know, they're just beautiful people,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 20: but they just don't look like Arctic.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 15: Scientists, you know.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it just didn't look like a fit.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 9: Well, for Aliens, yeah, that's what I think is another
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 9: one of those things that's so impressive is the dynamic
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 9: between everybody. How quickly. I mean, with a lot of them,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 9: you're not even around them that long because they don't
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 9: make it very long. But, like, between Vasquez and Drake,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 9: it's like there's the... I mean, you immediately pick up
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 9: this chemistry that they have, and you kind of understand
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 9: it without even having to spend, like, an hour building
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 9: story or anything. It's just they found a way with
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 9: almost all of them. Like, you get who Hicks is
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 9: right off the bat. You understand... how ridiculous Hudson is, right?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 9: And it's like everything sort of falls into place very
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 9: quickly with those guys.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 20: And that's the beauty of great screenwriting is everything serves
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 20: two purposes. They're giving you information about the story and
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 20: they're telling you something about the people who are saying
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 20: the words. James Cameron really is really good at that.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 20: He doesn't waste any time. And I think it's the
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 20: same with the power loader.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 8: It's like.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 15: That moment served two purposes.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 20: When you first see Sigourney Weaver in the power loader,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 20: it demonstrates that she is looking for a way to
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 20: fit in and that she is capable in trying to
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 20: prove herself. But then at the same time, it introduces
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 20: this piece of equipment. But because it served the first purpose,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 20: you're not expecting necessarily you're going to see it later,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 20: but lo and behold, this awesome piece of gear has
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 20: a role to play in the last act of the movie.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 9: But, yeah, it so sets up and fits in with
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 9: her character because she's never one to sit on her ass.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 9: And you see that as she gets thrown into the mix.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 9: It's like as Gorman shuts down, like she immediately takes control.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 9: And really from that point in the movie, like even
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 9: when Hicks is still technically in control, she will just
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 9: start telling people what to do because it needs to
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 9: be done. And, yeah, she's just– that is her character.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 9: And it does build such– a strong female lead that
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 9: a lot of times you don't see, especially in sci-fi, that, yeah,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 9: Cameron's kind of known for, but, yeah, it's really well
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 9: done through Ripley.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 8: You better just start.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 15: Dealing with it, Hudson.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 14: Listen to me. Hudson, just deal with it because we
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 14: need you and I'm sick of your bullshit. Now, I
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 14: want you to get on a terminal and call up
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 14: some kind of floor plan file.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: Do you understand?
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 14: Construction blueprints.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 15: I don't care.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 14: Anything that shows the layout of this place.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: Are you listening?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 14: I need to see air ducts. I need to see
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 14: electrical access tunnels, sub basements, every possible way into this complex.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 15: We don't have much time.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 24: OK.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 8: I'm on it.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 15: Hudson, just relax. Yeah, that's interesting.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 20: And it's a similar kind of an arc that she
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 20: has in Alien, you know, where initially she's not the
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 20: highest in command, but, you know, she's got these opinions,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 20: and eventually she's the one who's got to take matters
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 20: into her own hands. And, yeah, she's, again, put in
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 20: a subordinate position at the beginning and has to sort of.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 15: Rise to the occasion.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 9: But, yeah, she takes control of the situation and kind
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 9: of the screen. Like, watching how much she sort of
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 9: just really, yeah, I mean, there's a reason she was
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 9: nominated for that role. I mean, she really is amazing
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 9: when she's just laying into Paul Reiser.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 9: Like, that, good Lord, like, that is a harsh scene.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 15: And it's like, oh, man.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 20: Yeah, she does a great job. You know, it helps that,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 20: you know, that she, I mean, she's six feet tall,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 20: I think.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 15: You know, so talking to Paul Reiser, you know, you
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 15: believe that she could pin him to the wall the
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 15: way that she could. Yeah, totally.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 9: That's another one of those that came out of nowhere,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 9: Paul Reiser. Like, again, somebody who, known for, even beforehand,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 9: and since has done not a whole lot of serious
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 9: roles but is so good in that like yeah you
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 9: want to be like oh no he's not going to
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 9: work and like you're midway in and be like this
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 9: guy like he's the most you know weasley you know
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 9: company you know slave that you know doing exactly what
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 9: the company wants him to do every turn and he's
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 9: so good.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 20: At it it's like you know what's interesting i i
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 20: don't know if he's a new york comic i think
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 20: he's kind of out of that New York state.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, things started in that area.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 15: Yeah, with Jerry Seinfeld and those guys.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: Around that same time, yeah.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 20: But, yeah, there's something about being a comedian that, you know,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 20: you're two things at once. You know, you're likable in
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 20: some ways, but you're not entirely trustworthy. You know, there's
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 20: a certain mischief or an undercurrent of, you know, ulterior motive.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 9: It's all a put-on.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 15: Something going on. Yeah, exactly. And I think that... that the.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 20: Comedian in him really transferred well into the insincerity of, like,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 20: this corporate guy. And, you know, it's funny. I remember
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 20: thinking that watching Boogie Nights, too, that Burt Reynolds in
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 20: a lot of the roles he had played before then
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 20: was kind of cheeky, you know? But it was kind
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 20: of his undercurrent of insincerity that made him the perfect, like, paternal, like,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 20: porn producer.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 20: You know, it's like he would say it sincerely, but
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 20: there was something about him that just was like, wow,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 20: I don't trust this guy.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 15: There's just something else going on here.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 9: That's a good producer in general, right?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 13: I think Burt Reynolds' Undercurrent of Insincerity is my next
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 13: band name.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 15: Oh, yeah, sweet. Lord.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 9: I guess going through some of the other people, Carrie
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 9: Henn as Newt. And then I was just, I guess
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 9: everybody at some point went, what happened to that kid?
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 9: That was it. Looking it up today, it's like that's
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 9: the only thing she was ever in. It's the only
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 9: movie she ever made. She's a school teacher now in California.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 15: Interesting. She's so good in it.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 20: Yeah, you'd think that, I don't know, any other kid
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 20: would probably want to capitalize on that somehow and do
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 20: something else.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 15: And she probably could have worked, you.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 20: Know, another couple of years doing stuff, but Um, yeah,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 20: I got to admire that really. You know, I feel
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 20: that same way about Michael Schaeffling who after doing 16
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 20: candles and vision quest and those things, um, just said,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 20: you know what, man, I think I want to be
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 20: a carpenter. You know, I think I want to make
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 20: things with my hands. And I remember seeing him being,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 20: seeing him interviewed and he said, you know, if I
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 20: want to make a movie, I have to go and
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 20: I have to audition. I have to get a part
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 20: in this and that. But if I want to make furniture,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 20: I can just make it, you know? And And that
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 20: kind of spoke to his inner artist, you know. And so, yeah,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 20: I definitely got to give her props for, yeah, not
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 20: thinking that being an actor is the greatest thing in
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 20: the world.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 15: Because sometimes it's just not.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 13: That was probably a pretty tough shoot, though, too. She
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 13: may have just been like, no, Mom, sorry, I'm out.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 10: Like, no more in the water, no more, yeah.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 9: Sliding down shoots and having to throw an alley.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 15: Covered with dirt. Totally, yeah.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: Having dirt.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 9: Hudson yell at me Bill Paxson why don't.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 21: You put her in charge it's funny the dynamic between
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 21: them because they're like at the same level it's like
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 21: he behaves like a child she is a child but
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 21: yeah he pretty.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 13: Much exactly the same character as the brother in Weird Science?
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 13: It's just like they lift him out of that movie.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 13: And wasn't he like in a military branch?
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 9: They recruited Chet. Chet, we need you to be a
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 9: colonial warrior.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 9: Okay, we'll kick some butt.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 15: I can totally see that.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 20: Oh man what else yeah they did a nice you
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 20: know Jeanette Goldstein I guess uh who played Vasquez yeah
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 20: um and apparently she was a bodybuilder you know at
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 20: the time or a gymnast or something to where she already.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 9: Had that yeah she's got the look and um yeah.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 20: It's funny that I guess she's she's red-haired and Jewish
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 20: and has light eyes so it's like contact lenses and
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 20: hair dye and learn the accent and that's and all
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 20: that stuff but Yeah, I know that part of what
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 20: they're up against in England, again, this is all from
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 20: watching special features on the DVDs, was that they need
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 20: people who can do believable American accents. So they had
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 20: to find people who were from the United States or Canada, oftentimes,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 20: to be able to do a convincing accent. But what
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 20: a treasure she turned out to be.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 9: She's so good at that. Just a badass.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 15: You really could.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 9: And then that's probably why I don't remember, because then
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 9: I remember looking at her list, and it's like, she's
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 9: in a ton of stuff. She's done a lot of TV,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 9: and she's in Terminator 2, she's in Titanic, and she's
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 9: the new foster mom for John Connor that gets taken out. Yeah, totally.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 9: But yeah, when I thought back, I was like, yeah,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 9: that's her, but God, that doesn't look anything like her.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 15: It's interesting.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: The molecular acid oxidizes after the creature's death, completely neutralizing.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 14: Bishop, you know, that's very interesting, but it doesn't really
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 14: get us anywhere, does it? Trying to figure out what
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 14: we're dealing with here. Let's go through it again. They
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 14: grab the colonists, they move them over there, and they
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 14: immobilize them to be hosts for more of these. Which
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 14: would mean that there would have to be a lot
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 14: of these parasites, right? One for each colonist, that's over
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 14: a hundred at least.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 8: Yes, that follows.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 14: But each one of these things comes from an egg, right?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 20: So who's laying these eggs?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 9: I guess the, the main theme I noticed, I mean, again,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 9: that first one is so much just, you know, the
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 9: isolation and playing on that. And then there's also the weird,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 9: and I've seen a lot of people go into this
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 9: lately of how much blatant sexual overtones there are. And
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 9: even they talked to the writer of the original alien
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 9: and how much, a lot of that really was put
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 9: in there on purpose. That there really is a lot of, of,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 9: sexual overtones and and you know the whole violation of
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 9: it and the violence that is involved with it so
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 9: it's like that was a kind of a lot of
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 9: weird overtones in that first one where this one it's
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 9: almost all this like maternal instinct thing that like runs
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 9: throughout it like you get that backstory of of ellen
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 9: and her losing her child then because of this stupid
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 9: mission and she ends up you know that's why she
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 9: can't be a mother anymore they've killed her child thanks
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 9: to this The last aliens basically did that to her.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 15: Of course, that's just in the extended version.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Well, she mentions it. I think in the original cut,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: she still has that line with Newt, and she still
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 9: mentions it. But, yeah, they put that... I was watching
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 9: the special edition.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 9: The special edition, and they actually do put that scene
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 9: back in where they bring up the fact. But, yeah,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 9: she mentioned that she had a daughter, I think, even
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 9: in the original cut. So you at least know that
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 9: that's there. And then how much... deeper it gets as
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 9: she meets Newt and as she gets into that whole
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 9: relationship and I guess even more so once you start
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 9: tying in the queen at the end and you get
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 9: this sort of mirror of both mothers protecting their children
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 9: in this big battle and I don't know it seems
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 9: very deep seated in this whole storyline of her maternal
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 9: instinct and how she uses that to kick people's ass.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 20: Yeah that is interesting and you know if you think
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 20: about it as an extension of the first movie of
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 20: You know, if the first movie is about, you know,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 20: getting your ass kicked, you know, if it's about, you know, having,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 20: you know, your crew decimated and fleeing in panic. And then,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 20: you know, then the second film is about, you know,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 20: it's about revenge, it's about fighting back, and it's about rebuilding,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 20: you know, like rebuilding in terms of your family, rebuilding
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 20: in terms of.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 15: Making your psyche whole.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 20: And, yeah, you're right, that maternal, you know, that really
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 20: is the nucleus.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 9: Of that, you know, protecting new people.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 20: Which makes it all the more crazy that Newt is
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 20: just summarily killed at the beginning.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 9: Of the next day.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 15: Spoiler alert.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: Spoiler alert.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 15: So I spoiled the next one.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 9: Well, again, nothing makes any arc sense by the next one.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 9: You realize they went, oh, we've got to change all this.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 9: Because even if you follow, not that this has anything
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 9: to do with the movie, but the Dark Horse comics
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 9: picked up right where the movie started. the second movie
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 9: left off just and continues on and newt grows up
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 9: and becomes a badass alien killer and hicks is this
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 9: like wounded one-eyed badass from back in the day killing
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 9: alien and it's like this really cool story arc that
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 9: i was hoping they were going with and you know
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 9: for many reasons they couldn't do that so they had
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: to like oh let's get rid of this and this
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 9: so i mean again all these like pains that she
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 9: goes to and this like ridiculous amount of trouble she
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 9: goes to to save All these people, specifically Newt, is
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: just totally useless by the next movie, in the first
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 9: few minutes. So, yeah, that's not really their fault in
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 9: this movie. And again, even in the next one, a
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 9: lot of that was out of their hands. It was just,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 9: let's work with what we have to work with.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it keeps spinning out into weirder places, for sure.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 9: But yeah, it does sort of change the story arc
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 9: of the whole run of the series, which gets crazier
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 9: as you go down it.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 15: You want to talk a little bit about the.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 20: Aliens themselves yeah you know i think uh um you
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 20: know one of the things i i think makes the
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 20: movie timeless is that there isn't computer graphics in it
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 20: yeah you know and um you know back then they
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 20: didn't even have the technology to paint out cables for
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 20: a stunt i mean there was nothing it's like what
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 20: you shot is what you got and um i think
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 20: it's just amazing that they're i mean if you think
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 20: about the queen and the egg chamber and i mean
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 20: the flamethrower and the explosions All of it practical. None
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 20: of it created digitally. And I think that I still
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 20: believe that work. I still believe Stan Winston's monsters are real.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 20: And I think that a lot of stuff from the
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 20: years that followed that used a lot of computer graphics,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 20: it doesn't hold up.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 9: I think that is what makes it still seem so.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 9: And I've said this before because I remember talking to
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 9: the guy who did one of the suit monsters, like
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 9: the main lead monster. And he's kind of like talking
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 9: about being in the suit and being on the set
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 9: and working with all the other guys, you know, all
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 9: in suits. And I think it does make it feel real.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 9: You get that sense of space that there is something
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 9: in the room there with them. And I think that's
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 9: what makes it scary.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 9: Whereas you go to buy the third one, they just
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 9: got into that point of CGI, and the third one
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 9: has scenes of CGI running around Alien.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 9: And it's the first time you start to go, oh,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 9: and it doesn't feel real anymore. It feels like they're
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 9: fighting a cartoon in this scene.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that is why it holds up so well,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: is there really, there's a presence there with them, and
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 9: they are fighting against something in the room. It may
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 9: be fake, it may be a guy in a suit,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 9: but it's still, I think it makes it hold up
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 9: a lot better that you've got something physical there to
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 9: deal with.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 15: I think that's true of The Thing as well.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 20: You know, all those amazing monsters, it's all practical and
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 20: the stuff just looked great.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 9: I don't know, are they CG in this new remake?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 15: Probably, yeah.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 9: I'm sure they are. It's going to be terrible.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 15: I don't doubt it.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 15: I crossed my fingers the first one was so amazing.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 9: But yeah, the design itself, I mean, I'm like a
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 9: huge Giger fan anyway, so just the fact that drawing
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 9: from that already gives you this look that nobody else has.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 9: It doesn't look like anything else that has ever taken
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 9: place in science fiction before. And that's hard to do.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 9: You know, I mean, you look how many years back
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 9: to like the serials they've been doing sci-fi that after
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 9: a while, everything starts to look the same, but this
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 9: weird Giger biological look that comes into play is just, yeah, it's, it's,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 9: very different.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 20: And you see it copied subsequent to that yeah of
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 20: course a lot of them species.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 9: And they bring him in to do it sometimes but
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 9: oh that was his work species yeah they did at
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: least hire him to do species yeah but it's i
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: mean it still pales i mean she's a cool creature
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 9: but it pales in comparison to the alien design so
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 9: yeah i think that is another thing that sort of
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 9: set it apart that had it looked like normal a
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 9: different type of alien had these you know the visual
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 9: effects look different in that first movie I don't know
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 9: that it would have taken off and found its following
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 9: for this one to sort of continue. I think that's
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 9: what set the first one apart was just going with
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 9: that Giger design.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 15: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 14: Get away from her, you bitch!
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 9: One of the other weird scenes. I mean, we sort
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 9: of touched on it. I mean is that power loader
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 9: fight not one of the greatest.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 20: Scenes of all time yeah just amazing I mean just
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 20: amazing oh my god yeah you just don't I mean
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 20: it just it takes the fist fight up to a
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 20: whole yeah another place you know the idea of leveling
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 20: the playing field with this awesome kind of effect you
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 20: know thing that they created I mean just yeah just
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 20: fantastic and I guess James Cameron designed that himself as
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 20: one of the early things that he he drew you
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 20: know and with his idea for the.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 13: Movie And then use it again in Avatar, essentially, right?
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 8: Kind of, yeah.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 15: Oh, with those, yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 9: My question is, why aren't we using those now? Why
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 9: don't I see those unloading docks? I mean, that's awesome.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 9: I think they're getting close.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 20: I saw on YouTube there's some guys in Japan who
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 20: created some kind of a big thing like that. And
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 20: I think it's completely without, I think it's all human-powered, too,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 20: so there's no.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 15: outside power source.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 9: I need to be walking around in one of those.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 20: Oh, some guy just working at the grocery store, putting
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 20: away like big boxes.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 9: You need some soup, ma'am. Yeah, I could see that.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 9: And then from there, it's funny. We get the, almost
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 9: that fake out ending thing that I've just, it's funny.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 9: If anybody should have known better, right. Ripley, were you
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 9: not in the last movie? Yeah, it almost follows suit.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 9: And like, just check the shit for god's sake but
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: i mean it leads to that that awesome scene but
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 9: it's funny that we get sort of that little moment
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 9: of oh okay yeah it's good so yeah we we
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 9: didn't learn anything from the first time around because we
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 9: had that then too right but yeah.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 20: It's yeah and it does make you wonder okay you
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 20: know how could they have succeeded with the third movie
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 20: it's it's almost like you know godfather you know part
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 20: one and part two it's like you know the there's
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 20: almost nowhere to go from there unless you really kind
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 20: of start over with a whole other idea.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 9: Which, again, they really didn't do. By the third one,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: it's just sort of remaking the first idea again. The
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 9: third one's okay. I mean, it's, again, got its strong points,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 9: mostly visual, because, again, each time they brought in amazing directors.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 9: There's never, okay, until The Predator got involved, they've never
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 9: done one that was not amazing to look at. They
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 9: have their problems, but they're all better than most bad
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 9: sci-fi movies out there.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 15: Strong actors.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's always kind of amazing what they put together,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 9: even the misses as they go on from there. Three
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 9: and four or less, but still amazing directors each time.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 8: Right. Yeah, totally.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 13: So there are some Aliens alums here this weekend, right?
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 9: We talked to Lance.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 10: Did Jerry talk about that?
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 9: We talked to Lance.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 15: Did you talk to him about aliens?
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 9: He brings it up a little bit. He talks about
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 9: pottery more.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 15: Okay.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 9: He really likes pottery. He's kind of a Zen guy.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 12: That's great.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 15: You've got to love that.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 9: Equally as much he talked about pottery as he did aliens. But, yeah,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 9: he talks about it a little bit. And, yeah, it's
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 9: funny how much he's known for that. I mean, he
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 9: named his book after the line of the movie. He's still, like,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 9: he's made... probably a hundred movies at this point and
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 9: he's still Bishop is like his main role which again
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 9: I mean he's amazing like watching him try to be
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 9: a non-human trying really hard to be a human you
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: know it's like you can see there is that almost
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 9: this like Pinocchio aspect thrown in there of him trying
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 9: to be a real boy so hard and yeah it's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 9: interesting it's yeah it's funny that he he pulls it
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 9: off so well that obviously it's yeah it's still following
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 9: him around now that yeah all this time later, it's
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 9: still the main thing people kind of know him for.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 20: Yeah, he's, you know, he's got an incredible quality about
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 20: him that seems, it's like a knowing quality, you know,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 20: and even if you watch him, even if you watch
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 20: him back in Dog Day Afternoon, when he's not just
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 20: a cop or an FBI agent, you know, when he,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 20: you know, dealing with the hostage situation, there was something
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 20: about him that just seemed very wise and knowledgeable, and
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 20: he was probably a pretty young guy back then, but,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 20: But then, you know, again, as Bishop, you know, you
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 20: feel like there is some, he knows something I don't.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 20: And it's not just information. It's some kind of a
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 20: philosophical understanding.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 15: You know, and yeah, he was just a perfect choice.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 9: And kind of the red herring of the whole thing.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 9: I mean, after the first movie, you're going in and Ellen,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 9: very much so, is like, I don't trust this guy.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 9: You know, the whole, you know, it is almost like
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 9: her having her prejudice, their whole type prejudice. are bad
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 9: and I can't trust them and yeah so it's him
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 9: sort of redeeming the the synthetic world for her and
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 9: kind of yeah showing that you know that was a
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 9: one-off and due to the company so yeah it's.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 20: And you know that's another quality that uh that Lance
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 20: Hendrickson has is he's he's definitely I mean um yeah
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 20: there's there's something definitely and I'm trying to use a
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 20: A gentle word.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 15: I don't know.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 20: There's something potentially menacing. There's kind of a potential darkness
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 20: that you see. But at the same time, there's a gentleness. So,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 20: you know, it would have, I mean, putting anybody else
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 20: in that role would have been tough because you wouldn't
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 20: have been able to do the double duty.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 9: That comes through massively. I remember watching Pumpkinhead at one point.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 9: And at the beginning, you see him with this little
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: kid and being a dad. And it's like it's one
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 9: of the few times I'm like, wow, like he's really
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: convincing it just being this loving father and like getting
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 9: along with this child. And then by the end, he's
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 9: just in vengeance.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 14: Yes.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 9: So, I mean, yeah, he does play both of those
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 9: so well.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 9: It's interesting.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's interesting. And so he has those two, and
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 15: then Paul Reiser kind of has those two. Yeah, duality
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 15: going on.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 20: Yeah, and they just swap in terms of what our
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 20: expectations are, and who's the good guy and who's the
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 20: bad guy.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 9: And then, I guess, working in both of those, I
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 9: think it is one of those things that I think
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 9: is most interesting, and not just a, I noticed in
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 9: the first movie, and it becomes the theme of the
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 9: whole series, really, is that the aliens aren't really the
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 9: ultimate evil. company yeah people basically become like and she
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 9: says it there i mean you don't see them fucking
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 9: each other over you know for money right so it's
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 9: like no matter what as evil as these creatures are
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 9: it's like their basic again like they say their animal
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 9: level of evil like the most devious ultimate evil is
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 9: still the company the man that's like running everything and
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 9: pulling all the strings and every time out, it seems like,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 9: finds a way to kind of screw over Ripley, usually, so.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's funny that that becomes the ultimate evil, more
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 9: so than the alien in the title role. It's the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 9: ultimate evil.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 8: Right, yeah.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 15: And, yeah, and the alien, too.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 20: I mean, initially, wow, what an awesome thing that was with,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 20: you know, Mother and the computer, you know, kind of
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 20: giving the order to go there, waking everybody up, you know, just.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 15: All in the name of money, risking lives, whatever it takes.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 9: And this time we get a human face doing it.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 9: Then you've got Burke that specifically told the colonists to
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 9: go there. You've got him riding along like he's face
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 9: to face with these people that he's just selling down
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 9: the river and at some point killing, setting up traps
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 9: to kill them. He plays it almost, when you think
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 9: about it, he's even more evil than he comes off sometimes.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 9: He just seems weaselly at times, but By the time
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 9: you get to the sabotaging, the freezers, and let loose
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 9: the alien facehuggers so that he can sneak them back
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 9: through quarantine, I'm like, this guy's horrible.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 15: Yeah, just completely amoral.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 15: Just wants money and wants to save his own skin,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 15: and that's it.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's such a bastard. And plays it so well.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 15: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 9: Gotta give him credit.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 15: It's inside the complex.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 12: No, no, it ain't you.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 9: You're inside, inside the perimeter.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 15: They're in here.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 8: The signal's weird.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: Must be some interference or something.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 6: There's movement all over the place.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 9: I think it's just amazing the way that it plays
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 9: with tension. I mean, the scanners is an addition from
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 9: the first one.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 9: Oh my god i mean if ever there was something
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 9: good that got worked into it that they found a
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 9: new way to take something that's already kind of scary
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 9: of something coming to get you right and then have
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 9: this like digital readout telling you oh they're almost here
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 9: they're almost ready to get you we can't see them
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 9: yeah even more so when you can't see them which
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 9: is pretty much always the thing i mean they they
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 9: blend into the the walls they're under the ceiling tile
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 9: i mean it's yeah they always find a way to
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 9: not be in front of you and yet be right
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 9: there and it's Yeah, that's kind of amazing, the way
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 9: that they play with that tension.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 20: It's unbelievable to me, really, that whole story about whichever
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 20: reel of it it was, whichever film reel they cut completely,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 20: which basically showed the infection spreading on LV-426. And they
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 20: decided to make it really just kind of like the
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 20: thing where they're exploring the aftermath and having to figure
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 20: out what happened.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 20: And, yeah, that tension, it just would have been completely
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 20: gone if they hadn't have cut that reel.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 9: Because, yeah, the special edition, they put that, like, you
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 9: get Newt before she's, you know, you see a normal Newt.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 9: You see her dressed in her regular clothes with her
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 9: brother that she talks about.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 15: Yeah, that all got cut.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 9: I remember it was gone. But, yeah, when I just
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 9: watched the special edition version, yeah, all that's back in.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 9: And it does change the dynamic. Like, it really, it
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 9: does almost play better now. there's stuff i like seeing
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 9: as like a film geek i love seeing that footage
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 9: but at the same time sometimes i'm like yeah i
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 9: kind of like where it cut the first time you
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 9: know i kind of like where i saw it in
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 9: theater that's still almost the best version really i like
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 9: the other footage even the things with the automatic guns
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 9: is kind of cool but you can see why they
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 9: took it out it just adds another 15 minutes in
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 9: there that you probably don't have to have so yeah just.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 15: Yeah it doesn't serve enough yeah It slows things down.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 9: So I think you're right. I think that probably works
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 9: better not knowing. Having seen both of them now, I
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 9: think it does play better with that just being thrown
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 9: in there like the Marines are and just sort of like,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 9: we don't know what we're up against.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 9: So it's interesting.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 20: And I think, you know, it also adds a, you know,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 20: there's that layer of, it's like what I call now
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 20: me or me now.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 8: You know, if.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 20: Somebody else has met a terrible fate and now you're
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 20: sort of, in that place or investigating their footsteps and
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 20: now those things are happening.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 15: There were all these bunkers.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 20: There were barricades that were built in the hallways and
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 20: they were destroyed and the colonists were killed. and now
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 20: the Marines are building barricades in the hallways, and it's like,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 20: oh my God, now that, or now me?
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they're like, oh look, this is where they welded
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 9: the door shut, this is where, and then 20 minutes
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 9: later they're doing the same thing.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 15: They're welding the door, yeah.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 9: It's like, you know this didn't go well the first time, right?
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 9: Probably not going to hold well for you guys either.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 9: Otherwise, yeah, that's probably it, so I guess that will
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 9: wrap up Aliens. Anything else you need to pass along?
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 9: Tell people where you'll be again? Other than what you
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 9: already did?
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 20: I'm not sure where I'm going to be. I'm disoriented.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 20: But I know I'll be at Long Beach Comic Con
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 20: at the end of October. And again, that'll be with
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 20: the Brain Eater's Bible.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 8: So, yeah.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 15: Awesome. Yeah, that'll be fun. And if you haven't seen Aliens...
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 15: See it.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 9: You should have already watched it. What the hell are
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 9: you thinking? Sorry about that. But yeah, if nothing else,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 9: we'll find Pat online and get a hold of him,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 9: see where he's going to be next, and go get
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 9: the book and watch him on the next project he's
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 9: got coming up. Thank you for being here. Thanks for
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 9: talking with us.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 24: Can I get a hammer on? For Jim Cameron The
• 1:59:31
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  Speaker 16: A hammer on?
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  Speaker 24: For Jim Cameron The greatest director in the world He gave.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 15: Us Turbinator It.
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  Speaker 24: Was hotter than a radiator Switched to the highest temperature
• 1:59:48
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  Speaker 13: With aliens all over the Gap And Sigourney Weaver kicking
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  Speaker 1: On by, on by. On by, on by.
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  Speaker 5: That's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 5: enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 5: And now, on with the show.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 18: Out of the darkness and into the light Alien presence
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 18: in sight How do.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 5: We stop them?
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 17: What can we do?
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 12: No one is safe here tonight Why do they want us?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 12: What do they need? Maybe they can't.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 18: Even breathe Resistance in Newtown, there's nowhere to run Maybe
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 18: they want us to bleed Demons have risen and took
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 18: to the air They have us all in their sights.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 19: We have to stop them, there's no turning round.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 18: We have to put up a fight Help all the
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 18: wreckers in flying machines No one is safe underground Divine
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 18: madness pervading the world Fire and death all around A.M.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 18: Aliens come here Aliens Aliens come here Aliens Aliens inside Aliens.
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  Speaker 5: All right, we're back. I would say, what do you
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 5: think of the festival, Marlena, but you didn't really see
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 5: any of it this weekend.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 12: It was exactly like all the other festivals that I've
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 12: been to.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 9: You usually sit outside of them at a table while
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 9: they turn the lights off and make a lot of noise.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 5: All right, well, you had a special experience.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 12: Hey, I didn't get to see that big creepy thing
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 12: with the bloody jaws and the person inside it. It's
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 12: like a hover around with like a monster on it.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 5: Missy took a picture with that this year. I love
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 5: that thing. It's a critter, by the way.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 12: Oh, okay.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 5: It's a giant motorized critter.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 10: But it's got a hover around.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 5: I guess, but it's just a big version of a critter. Yeah.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 9: It's a very large critter.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 12: That's pretty cool. Yeah, I like it.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 9: So you were actually in there at some point. What
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 9: was your take on the festival?
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 10: I love it.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 13: I'm a Scarefest junkie at this point.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 10: This is my second year. I think it's fantastic. I
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 10: think it's an amazing thing for Lexington.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 9: And they put together a show. That's what I was
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 9: telling one of the guys that runs it earlier. I
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 9: was just like, you've You know, you put together a
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 9: good show, especially to be where we are.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: It's like it's kind of hard to compete with other.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 9: Cities out there. I mean, there's a lot of them,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 9: especially in this area. There's a lot of shows out there.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 9: So to put together something that. can compete with those
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 9: and can bring in real names and can run a
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 9: really good show.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 5: It's a big challenge at this point. So they've done
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 5: a good job.
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  Speaker 12: And plus there's so many of these things now. There's
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 12: one like every month in a different city.
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  Speaker 5: We keep going to them.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 12: I mean, essentially, like, they're pretty much the same. Pretty
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 12: much the same vendors. Like, I know the vendors just
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 12: by looking at them.
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  Speaker 9: I do too.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 12: Like, I see them walking and I'm like, oh, hey,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 12: it's the guy that sells like the decapitated head things made.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 5: Out of clay. Several of them I talked to today.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, how's it going? You going to be
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 5: there next month? See you there.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: It's just like I see these people more than I
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 12: see most people in my family, which is okay. But,
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 12: you know, it's true.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 5: It's true for me, too. It's our lifestyle now.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 9: We wander the countryside and talk to movie people with
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 9: the same other random gypsies that travel around the country.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 10: Hey, you know what.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 12: We should do? We should invest in a movie meltdown
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 12: like Gypsy Trailers.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 9: As long as you pay for this thing, I'm all
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 9: for it.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 12: I've been trying to convince, like, Jessica and my boyfriend
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 12: and everyone I know that we need to chip in
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 12: and get, like, a 1960s Winnebago. I want an Airstream. And, like,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 12: redesign it. Well, Airstream is really expensive.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 5: I know. That's why I want one.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 12: A Winnebago is, like, within our, like, range, I think. Well,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 12: I mean, not really, but if we were to save
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 12: up for it over time. But, you know, and, like,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 12: redesign it.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 5: That could be.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 12: Our, like, meltdown.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 5: No, all I want now is a van. Just a big,
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 5: creepy van.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 9: Because after we were recently compared to the, our meltdown
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 9: gang was compared to the Scooby gang. I was like, oh,
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 9: my God, I need a mystery machine. I need a
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 9: meltdown machine.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 12: Did you used to have one of those that you
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 12: had to, like, put a rock behind the tires so
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 12: it didn't roll away?
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 5: No, that was a rental that I had.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 9: But, no, this one, yeah, I had a big creepy
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 9: murder van, and it almost killed Misty one time.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 5: That was a funny story. She doesn't think it's funny,
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 5: but I think it's a funny story.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 9: And, yeah, so I want one of those again, and
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 9: I want to be able to paint it with the
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 9: logo on the back, and we can have the Meltdown machine.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 5: And I need a Hanna-Barbera cartoon about it. If we can,
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 5: it's animated, I know. But see if we can get
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 5: that put together. We'll see what we can do.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 8: Kickstarter.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 10: That's how you do things now.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's true.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 15: Yeah, Kickstarter.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 5: Okay. Okay. You guys get on it.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 10: Let everybody else pay for it.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 9: I've got to edit all this stuff together. You guys
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 9: work on this part. You work on getting us a
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 9: cartoon in a van. That's what we need.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 5: So, with that.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 9: On segue, thank you to Scarefest for letting us loiter around, which.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 5: I did a lot this weekend, mostly behind me and Thompson.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 5: But anyway, that wasn't my fault. I had to stand
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 5: back there until... Anyway, never mind.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 8: It's a long story.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 9: So, yeah, we had a good time and got some
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 9: interesting interviews out of it and got a really cool
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 9: segment with Pat. So, yeah, I enjoyed myself this weekend. So,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 9: thank you to Scarefest. Go to thescarefest.com and you can...
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 9: Plan for next year, and you can probably stay at
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 9: this hotel.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 5: That we're loitering in right now.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 9: Probably get yourself a deal on next year already. So
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 9: go ahead and plan ahead. Anything else we have this
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 9: week to round things out?
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 14: No.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 9: I would tell you to get your decoder rings out,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 9: but I don't even know what the hell is coming
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 9: next week. So we'll see what happens. There's actually something
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 9: in the works. Could be awesome. possibly a special guest,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 9: but I'm not going to commit to it yet.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 5: So we'll see how that works out. Maybe you'll get lucky. Otherwise,
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 5: that about does it. We will return next week. Same
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 5: geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 8: Bye. DUMMIES!
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 15: We still have our power with the sound here.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we're batteries, so we're all good.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 15: Yeah, we're going to play some music.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 13: No, I remember the scene from the movie.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 9: They cut the power.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 15: They're just animals, man.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 10: You can't cut the power.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 9: Okay, we're all going.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: To die soon. Game over, man.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 6: Game over.
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  Speaker 7: edited by the Oddity Studios. With opening music performed by
• 2:10:37
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• 2:10:42
  Speaker 6: Talk hard!