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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm Bulls fans. Welcome to fourth and bowl. My name
- 0:03Speaker 1: is Nick wise. Good to have you along. I really
- 0:05Speaker 1: do appreciate you checking out the podcast. We got a
- 0:07Speaker 1: lot to talk about today. USF army noon Saturday. We
- 0:11Speaker 1: will preview that game along with the preview of that game.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Big article came out yesterday from on three. They spoke
- 0:18Speaker 1: to both athletic directors, USF UCF, and it doesn't look
- 0:23Speaker 1: like that rivalry is going to renew anytime soon. I
- 0:25Speaker 1: have some thoughts on that, but before we get into
- 0:28Speaker 1: the game, Before we get into the rivalry that appears
- 0:32Speaker 1: it's not coming back anytime soon, I want to take
- 0:35Speaker 1: a second to say thank you guys so much for
- 0:37Speaker 1: the support on this.
- 0:38Speaker 2: It's really been awesome. We're now four. What are we,
- 0:42Speaker 2: four episodes in? One, two. Yeah, four. No, this will
- 0:45Speaker 2: be five. And we've had two player interviews, and we've
- 0:48Speaker 2: done two.
- 0:48Speaker 1: We did a pre-show to FIU, and then we did
- 0:51Speaker 1: a post-show to FIU, and then now we're previewing Army.
- 0:53Speaker 2: So five.
- 0:54Speaker 1: The first episode, over 2,000 views already. And for the
- 0:58Speaker 1: first episode of a podcast, that's huge. So thank you
- 1:01Speaker 1: guys so much for making that happen. I'm reading your
- 1:03Speaker 1: comments on YouTube. It's all been positive. You guys are
- 1:06Speaker 1: a great fan base who, like every comment's just like,
- 1:09Speaker 1: thank you for doing this. Thank you for doing this.
- 1:12Speaker 1: And so I just want to say thank you for
- 1:14Speaker 1: watching this. Thank you for listening on iHeartRadio, also Apple Podcast.
- 1:18Speaker 1: And I really appreciate the support and helping me grow
- 1:21Speaker 1: this thing. It's something that I can't.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Grow on my own. We got to grow it together.
- 1:25Speaker 1: So my favorite to ask from you would be share
- 1:29Speaker 1: this podcast with five USF Bulls fans. If we can
- 1:34Speaker 1: grow this together, just think about the things that we
- 1:36Speaker 1: can do on this channel. I mean, we're already doing great, right?
- 1:38Speaker 1: Grayson Pop Howard has joined us. Thomas Schrader has joined us.
- 1:42Speaker 1: We've had really good guests. I just, the things that
- 1:44Speaker 1: we could do together, if we make this thing even bigger,
- 1:47Speaker 1: will be endless.
- 1:49Speaker 2: And I really think that we can make it happen. So, yeah.
- 1:52Speaker 1: You know, you guys have been thanking me. I want
- 1:53Speaker 1: to say thank you to you. I'm having a lot
- 1:55Speaker 1: of fun doing this. I love college football. We have
- 1:57Speaker 1: a college football program here in our backyard. So this
- 2:00Speaker 1: just made perfect sense. So let's get right to it.
- 2:04Speaker 1: USF Army this weekend. Before I kind of get into
- 2:08Speaker 1: the Army game, let's just go back to week one
- 2:09Speaker 1: just for a minute. Because what happened in week one,
- 2:13Speaker 1: I think, could play a factor into week number two.
- 2:16Speaker 1: So they beat FIU 19-9, as you know. But nobody
- 2:19Speaker 1: was satisfied. Fans were not happy. A lot of outrage
- 2:23Speaker 1: over a victory. More than, you know, this is not
- 2:27Speaker 1: something you would have seen six, seven years ago. You
- 2:31Speaker 1: would have been happy just to get the dub. But
- 2:34Speaker 1: the expectations have changed for USF.
- 2:37Speaker 2: You know that. I know that.
- 2:39Speaker 1: And most importantly, the team knows that because from my conversations,
- 2:44Speaker 1: you know, we talked to Thomas Schrader on Wednesday and
- 2:47Speaker 1: just talking to some other people that are inside the building.
- 2:51Speaker 1: nobody is happy or satisfied with that win on Saturday night.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Of course, they're happy they got the win, and that
- 2:59Speaker 1: is most important. They are 1-0, so let's remember that.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I also think with week number one, everybody tends.
- 3:05Speaker 2: To overreact, right? We go from our predictions.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Of, oh, they're going to be 10-2, 11-1, they're going
- 3:10Speaker 1: to the playoff, and we're fighting people that say they
- 3:12Speaker 1: aren't going to the playoff, and then the moment they
- 3:15Speaker 1: don't have a great performance or live up to your expectations,
- 3:19Speaker 1: Season's over, Don.
- 3:21Speaker 2: I'm not there yet, all right? It's one week.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Tim Beck obviously got a lot of the criticism. Deservingly so.
- 3:30Speaker 1: The offense wasn't great, but I don't want to overreact
- 3:33Speaker 1: on my thoughts that I have of Tim Beck yet
- 3:36Speaker 1: because it's one game, guys.
- 3:40Speaker 2: By the way, I saw your comments. Thank you for
- 3:41Speaker 2: talking us off the ledge.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I might not be able to do that every week, right? Like,
- 3:45Speaker 1: I might be there with you at... But I'm not
- 3:48Speaker 1: with you there on just one game.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Was it bad? Yes, it was bad.
- 3:53Speaker 1: The biggest positive coming out of week number one is
- 3:56Speaker 1: that nobody was satisfied with the win.
- 3:59Speaker 2: That's important to me.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Top to bottom, inside that building, players, coaches, nobody was satisfied.
- 4:06Speaker 1: And that is very encouraging because it tells me that
- 4:10Speaker 1: the standard inside that program is higher than just simply
- 4:13Speaker 1: getting a win. The way they win is now matters,
- 4:17Speaker 1: and that wasn't the case years ago. USF only had
- 4:20Speaker 1: 208 yards against FIU.
- 4:21Speaker 2: You know it. I know it. They know it.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Not going to get it done against Army this weekend.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Was this offense performance a one-game problem or something that
- 4:31Speaker 1: we should actually be concerned about is a question I've
- 4:34Speaker 1: gotten a lot.
- 4:36Speaker 2: I'm going to hold off on being concerned.
- 4:38Speaker 1: I think if you are concerned and questioning it, I
- 4:42Speaker 1: think that's okay. I will be a little bit more
- 4:46Speaker 1: concerned if we see the same struggles happening in week two. Now,
- 4:51Speaker 1: Brian Hartline made a comment in his post-game presser. A
- 4:55Speaker 1: team usually grows most from week one to week two. Now,
- 4:59Speaker 1: he's put a lot of pressure on himself because we
- 5:02Speaker 1: better see that growth here in week number two, or
- 5:05Speaker 1: he's going to be answering a lot of questions to
- 5:07Speaker 1: what's been going on all offseason.
- 5:09Speaker 2: The NIL is there. The roster is there.
- 5:13Speaker 1: According to 24-7 Sports, it is the best group of
- 5:16Speaker 1: six roster in the country. So things have to change
- 5:20Speaker 1: this weekend. Brian Hartline has never been under this kind
- 5:25Speaker 1: of pressure, right? Ohio State has pressure. But Brian Hartline
- 5:30Speaker 1: wasn't the one facing that pressure. It was Ryan Day.
- 5:32Speaker 1: You know, when they were losing, you never heard Brian
- 5:35Speaker 1: Hartline's offense this, Brian Hartline's offense that. It was Ryan
- 5:38Speaker 1: Day needs to be fired. Ryan Day's this, Ryan Day's that. Well,
- 5:42Speaker 1: now it all falls on Brian Harlan. He is the
- 5:44Speaker 1: head guy for the first time. And he, I think,
- 5:47Speaker 1: is in a position that is a little bit more
- 5:50Speaker 1: challenging of a coaching job. One, not only is he
- 5:53Speaker 1: not just an offensive coordinator anymore, he's the head coach
- 5:56Speaker 1: overseeing an entire program. But Ohio State has some advantages
- 6:00Speaker 1: USF doesn't. And he has the roster. And he is
- 6:04Speaker 1: going to need to coach his way to a better
- 6:09Speaker 1: performance than what we saw in week number one. There
- 6:13Speaker 1: are going to be a lot of eyes focused on
- 6:14Speaker 1: what Brian Hartline does this week. And you could say, well,
- 6:18Speaker 1: it's Tim Beck in the offense. Brian Hartline is the
- 6:20Speaker 1: guy that oversees all of this. He's the guy that
- 6:23Speaker 1: hired Tim Beck. So all eyes are on both of
- 6:26Speaker 1: those guys. Now, I will say in this game, those
- 6:29Speaker 1: are not the two most important coaches. I'll get to
- 6:31Speaker 1: that in just a little bit. There's a couple storylines
- 6:34Speaker 1: in this game on the coaching staff that I want
- 6:36Speaker 1: to get to that I think is going to give
- 6:38Speaker 1: you a little bit of hope going into this game.
- 6:40Speaker 1: I should say a little bit of hope because I
- 6:41Speaker 1: think you guys have hope. It's a three and a
- 6:44Speaker 1: half point spread, so anyone can win it. But I
- 6:46Speaker 1: think it's going to, when you're done watching this, I
- 6:49Speaker 1: think you're going to leave here with a pretty good
- 6:50Speaker 1: feeling and feeling confident going into.
- 6:52Speaker 2: That game on Saturday.
- 6:56Speaker 1: So when Harline met with the media this week, usually
- 6:59Speaker 1: when a coach steps to the podium, they have some
- 7:02Speaker 1: opening statement comments that they say, and then they open
- 7:05Speaker 1: it up to the press and the press can ask questions.
- 7:09Speaker 1: there was no opening statement this week. It went straight
- 7:12Speaker 1: to questions and nothing to say. And normally I wouldn't
- 7:18Speaker 1: love that. But in this situation, I love that because
- 7:24Speaker 1: coach Hartline isn't satisfied. No one is, which is what
- 7:27Speaker 1: I've just been preaching for the last seven minutes. I
- 7:30Speaker 1: liked the fact that he didn't have an opening statement
- 7:32Speaker 1: and went straight to the questions. Now, USF is going
- 7:35Speaker 1: to have to establish the run better. And, I also
- 7:39Speaker 1: think the passing game needs to become a little bit
- 7:42Speaker 1: of an identity as well. I know that they are
- 7:45Speaker 1: a run-first offense. I've been preaching this for so long because, again,
- 7:51Speaker 1: and if you've watched all the episodes, you're probably tired
- 7:55Speaker 1: of me saying this, but everyone thinks Brian Hartline and
- 7:58Speaker 1: these wide receivers in this offense, and don't get me wrong,
- 8:00Speaker 1: that wide receiver room is talented. When we talk to
- 8:02Speaker 1: Grayson Popoward, I asked him about the wide receiver room
- 8:06Speaker 1: because that was one of the biggest questions everybody had
- 8:08Speaker 1: going in is how good are they? He praised them.
- 8:10Speaker 1: He named like eight different players. They had some drop
- 8:12Speaker 1: passes in week number one. They didn't really live up
- 8:14Speaker 1: to the hype.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I think those are correctable mistakes. I'm not really worried
- 8:20Speaker 2: about the drop passes.
- 8:21Speaker 1: I think I'm more concerned about what went on up
- 8:24Speaker 1: front and how they were dominated there than I am
- 8:27Speaker 1: the drop passes. But I do think the passing game
- 8:30Speaker 1: needs to become more of an identity. I think they
- 8:33Speaker 1: want to be a run-first team, and I have no
- 8:35Speaker 1: problem with that. But they are coming in here with
- 8:40Speaker 1: a Big Ten-style offense. And in the Big Ten, they
- 8:44Speaker 1: like to run. And they never got away from the run,
- 8:48Speaker 1: even when it wasn't working. And I don't know if
- 8:50Speaker 1: that game plan is going to work against Army. If
- 8:55Speaker 1: you're trying to run and it ain't working... you're going
- 8:58Speaker 1: to have to bail on the run this week, and
- 8:59Speaker 1: you're going to have to open up the playbook a
- 9:02Speaker 1: little bit. Now, I think there is one big advantage
- 9:06Speaker 1: USF has going into this game, and I think there's
- 9:08Speaker 1: one big disadvantage that USF has going into this game
- 9:12Speaker 1: against Army. The one advantage is being game two to
- 9:17Speaker 1: take on Army, I like that. I would actually prefer
- 9:21Speaker 1: them to be week one. And let me explain, because
- 9:24Speaker 1: I know when you hear that, you're like, well, wouldn't
- 9:25Speaker 1: you want to play maybe a couple cupcakes.
- 9:28Speaker 2: First, get things going, and then take on a conference opponent?
- 9:32Speaker 1: Yes, in most situations, unless it is Army or it
- 9:37Speaker 1: is Navy that run a completely different offense. So the
- 9:41Speaker 1: one advantage that I think USF has is from my
- 9:45Speaker 1: conversations with Brian Hartline, in my conversations with the players,
- 9:51Speaker 1: they have been preparing for this Army offense in the offseason.
- 9:58Speaker 1: I don't think they were necessarily looking over FIU, which,
- 10:01Speaker 1: by the way, you could say, all right, well, they've
- 10:02Speaker 1: been practicing for Army.
- 10:05Speaker 2: All offseason.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Maybe the focus wasn't totally on FIU. Maybe they were
- 10:10Speaker 1: looking ahead. And they might have been, right? They were
- 10:14Speaker 1: kind of trying to prepare for two different teams. I
- 10:17Speaker 1: think in the moment.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Leading up to the game week, I think all the
- 10:23Speaker 1: attention was on FIU. I think before that, I do
- 10:26Speaker 1: think time at practice was spent on Army, just based
- 10:30Speaker 1: on what players and coaches have said. And so I
- 10:33Speaker 1: think that gives them an advantage by playing them in
- 10:36Speaker 1: week two, because if you play Army in, let's say,
- 10:38Speaker 1: week eight or nine, you can't do that. You have
- 10:43Speaker 1: eight or nine games that you need to be focused
- 10:46Speaker 1: on before you can even think about Army. And having
- 10:49Speaker 1: them in Week 2, Brian Harline and this defense have
- 10:51Speaker 1: had a chance to really prepare. Now, the one disadvantage
- 10:56Speaker 1: is USF is full of transfers. And what did we
- 11:00Speaker 1: see last week with an offensive line room full of transfers?
- 11:03Speaker 1: There's eight new offensive linemen that transferred into this program.
- 11:07Speaker 1: There's only one returning starter from a year ago. What
- 11:11Speaker 1: we learned is that the continuity just wasn't there yet.
- 11:18Speaker 1: And it's going to take time to click. And that's
- 11:21Speaker 1: the new world of college football we live in. Transfer portals,
- 11:24Speaker 1: getting guys used to each other, familiarity of playing with
- 11:28Speaker 1: each other. And those are things that you just don't
- 11:30Speaker 1: get at practice. Those are things that you can only
- 11:32Speaker 1: get in a game. And that's where the advantage is
- 11:35Speaker 1: to Army because Army doesn't have a transfer portal. These
- 11:38Speaker 1: guys have all played together. It's a lot of the
- 11:41Speaker 1: same team from last year. And they all know each other.
- 11:45Speaker 1: It is a brotherhood there. And it's a brotherhood at USF, too.
- 11:48Speaker 1: It's a very connected locker room. That's the one thing
- 11:51Speaker 1: I can say being around these guys is they're a
- 11:53Speaker 1: very tight group. Members of the coaching staff have said
- 11:57Speaker 1: they've never been on a team with players this close.
- 12:01Speaker 1: But just because they're close off the field doesn't mean
- 12:03Speaker 1: that's going to translate on the field. Army has that continuity. Now,
- 12:07Speaker 1: Army coming into this game pretty good. Last year, what
- 12:09Speaker 1: was the record? 7-5?
- 12:11Speaker 2: A lot of one-score games. Two of those losses came
- 12:14Speaker 2: in overtime.
- 12:15Speaker 1: And all of those losses except one were very close.
- 12:19Speaker 1: And that only loss that wasn't close was against a
- 12:24Speaker 1: Josh Aldridge defense in East Carolina, 28-6.
- 12:27Speaker 2: We can talk about that here in just a little bit.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Because that's going to be one of my storylines going
- 12:34Speaker 1: into this game. Is Josh Aldridge versus Army? Actually, let's
- 12:37Speaker 1: just talk about it now. Josh Aldridge versus Army. Last
- 12:40Speaker 1: season at East Carolina, Aldridge was the defensive coordinator.
- 12:44Speaker 2: You guys know that.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Army rushed for 241 yards, which kind of sounds like
- 12:49Speaker 1: a lot, but it's not when you only pass for
- 12:51Speaker 1: barely over 100. Actually, I don't even think they hit
- 12:55Speaker 1: 100 passing yards in that game. I think they were
- 12:57Speaker 1: in the fourth. I don't have the box score in
- 12:58Speaker 1: front of me. Regardless, 241 rushing yards for Army is
- 13:02Speaker 1: not a good day. If you can hold them to
- 13:04Speaker 1: 241 on Saturday, I think you win this game. They had, okay,
- 13:08Speaker 1: I actually do have it in front of me. They
- 13:09Speaker 1: had 290 total yards. So if I do the math correct,
- 13:12Speaker 1: what's that, 49 passing yards?
- 13:15Speaker 2: I'm not good at math. I hope it is. I
- 13:17Speaker 2: didn't go to USM. I don't have the good education. No,
- 13:20Speaker 2: it is. But ECU won that game 28-6.
- 13:23Speaker 1: So that gives me a lot of confidence going into
- 13:27Speaker 1: Saturday that we have the right guy coaching this defense,
- 13:30Speaker 1: and I think we already kind of knew that. I
- 13:32Speaker 1: think everyone's big on Aldridge, and I know the players are.
- 13:35Speaker 1: talking to them at Bulls Fest, every defensive player I
- 13:37Speaker 1: talked to was, hey, what made you come to USF? Well,
- 13:42Speaker 1: Coach Aldridge called me, and he explained this and this
- 13:44Speaker 1: and this. Coach Aldridge is highly respected and a really
- 13:47Speaker 1: great defensive coordinator. And so him being on this coaching
- 13:52Speaker 1: staff gives me high hopes. Now, he also faced Army
- 13:55Speaker 1: in 2021 when he was at Liberty, and he held
- 13:57Speaker 1: Army to a 3.5-yard rushing average per play.
- 14:01Speaker 2: They won 31-16. It's good.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Now, not only do you have Josh Aldridge, but you
- 14:10Speaker 1: have Danny Verpale on this coaching staff. And I think
- 14:14Speaker 1: this is a storyline that's kind of gotten forgotten. He
- 14:17Speaker 1: was on the staff of Army and knows this team
- 14:20Speaker 1: almost better than anybody. He spent the previous three seasons
- 14:24Speaker 1: at Army. He knows the players. He knows the offense.
- 14:26Speaker 1: He knows how they practice. He knows the terminology. He
- 14:29Speaker 1: knows exactly what Army wants to do offensively. And I think, again,
- 14:34Speaker 1: this is one of those stories that hasn't gotten enough attention.
- 14:37Speaker 1: I think having Danny Verpell, along with Aldridge, I think
- 14:42Speaker 1: is going to give this team an advantage against Army that.
- 14:45Speaker 2: No other team has.
- 14:46Speaker 1: So those are two of my storylines going into this
- 14:50Speaker 1: football game. Now, remember, at the beginning of the show,
- 14:52Speaker 1: I said, I don't even think Hartline and Tim Beck
- 14:55Speaker 1: are the most important coaches this week. Those are your
- 14:58Speaker 1: two most important coaches in my book. These are guys
- 15:00Speaker 1: that are familiar with Army. And they know how to
- 15:03Speaker 1: beat Army. Well, Verpell doesn't know how to beat them
- 15:06Speaker 1: because he's always been with them. But he knows the insides.
- 15:08Speaker 1: But Josh Aldridge does know how to beat them. And
- 15:11Speaker 1: so I feel good about the defense going into this
- 15:14Speaker 1: game against Army. I think they're going to be able
- 15:16Speaker 1: to stack the box. And I liked the run defense.
- 15:20Speaker 1: The run defense wasn't bad against FIU. So you have
- 15:25Speaker 1: to feel really confident in the defense with those two storylines. Now,
- 15:28Speaker 1: another storyline in this game is USF's passing game. against
- 15:32Speaker 1: Army's secondary. I told you last week, I thought they
- 15:36Speaker 1: were going to try to win this game on the ground.
- 15:38Speaker 1: I think they're going to try to win every game
- 15:39Speaker 1: on the ground, obviously, but I think the biggest advantage
- 15:43Speaker 1: for USF this week is going to be against this
- 15:46Speaker 1: good Army defense.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Is the passing game.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Because as good as Army's defense was last year, they
- 15:54Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of pressure on quarterbacks.
- 15:57Speaker 2: And so, Week one, you go back to the FIU game.
- 16:01Speaker 2: What was the biggest problem?
- 16:01Speaker 1: There was a lot of pressure on MVB, which is
- 16:05Speaker 1: why I think they couldn't open up the pass game
- 16:09Speaker 1: as much as we wanted it to open up.
- 16:12Speaker 2: They didn't have a ton of time. Well, I think
- 16:14Speaker 2: they're going to have time.
- 16:15Speaker 1: And I think that the wide receivers on this team,
- 16:19Speaker 1: I believe, is the mismatch against this Army defense. And
- 16:24Speaker 1: I think it's USF's receivers that are going to be
- 16:26Speaker 1: the difference makers on the field.
- 16:29Speaker 2: It has to be this week against Army.
- 16:32Speaker 1: And not only that, in a game where we believe
- 16:35Speaker 1: it's going to be limited possessions, you want the passing
- 16:38Speaker 1: game to be effective to give your offense more opportunities.
- 16:42Speaker 1: You know, this is one of those games where every
- 16:44Speaker 1: possession is going to count. And really, every possession is
- 16:53Speaker 1: so important, more so than any other game, because they
- 16:55Speaker 1: are so limited. So The pressure is going to be
- 16:57Speaker 1: on the offense to score every single time they have
- 16:59Speaker 1: the ball. And if they have the same game plan
- 17:02Speaker 1: as a week ago and it's going to be run, run, run, run, run,
- 17:04Speaker 1: the possessions are going to be very low. But if
- 17:07Speaker 1: they can hit some explosive plays, which they didn't hit
- 17:09Speaker 1: any in week number one, they can do that against Army.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Then I like their chances even more on the offensive
- 17:14Speaker 1: side of the ball because that's going to give them
- 17:16Speaker 1: more possessions. And you're going to need every single possession
- 17:20Speaker 1: that you can get against, you know, this this this
- 17:24Speaker 1: Army team. Now, USF's offense has to be much better.
- 17:27Speaker 1: I don't need to really reiterate what happened in week one.
- 17:30Speaker 1: You guys know. My game plan for this, I was
- 17:35Speaker 1: pretty proud of myself. I was telling a coworker here
- 17:38Speaker 1: at the radio station. If you guys are just checking
- 17:40Speaker 1: this out on the podcast, I also have a radio
- 17:42Speaker 1: show on 95.7 WDAE and AM620 here in Tampa.
- 17:48Speaker 2: And I.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Just happened to tell one of my coworkers, I go,
- 17:52Speaker 1: you know, I'm really proud of My analysis of week one,
- 17:59Speaker 1: the game literally played out exactly how I thought. I
- 18:04Speaker 1: thought Harline was going to go with the run. I
- 18:06Speaker 1: thought FIU was going to try to win with the pass.
- 18:08Speaker 1: They threw it 50 times. I said it was going
- 18:10Speaker 1: to be a 10-point game, although I thought it was
- 18:12Speaker 1: going to be 31-21. I expected more from the offense,
- 18:15Speaker 1: and I got more from the defense. But all in all,
- 18:18Speaker 1: I was on with it. And look, I'm not always
- 18:21Speaker 1: going to be right. This isn't me gloating, but I
- 18:23Speaker 1: was proud of that call. And so Now I sit
- 18:26Speaker 1: down at week two and I wonder, can I do
- 18:28Speaker 1: it again? And I think the way USF is going
- 18:31Speaker 1: to have to win this, it is going to have
- 18:34Speaker 1: to be through the air. I believe that is how
- 18:37Speaker 1: they win this game. I believe that's their biggest advantage.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Take advantage of the pressure that Army doesn't typically generate.
- 18:44Speaker 1: And I think this week, if the offensive line can
- 18:47Speaker 1: hold up, And when we talked to Thomas Schrader on Wednesday,
- 18:50Speaker 1: I asked him, when you looked at the film, are
- 18:52Speaker 1: these easy things that you can clean up?
- 18:55Speaker 2: He said, yes.
- 18:56Speaker 1: He said there was a lot of positive stuff on
- 18:58Speaker 1: the tape that maybe the regular fan doesn't see.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And that's good. I want to hear that.
- 19:05Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of these mistakes that were
- 19:07Speaker 1: made are correctable. And I think after they watched the
- 19:12Speaker 1: tape again, this is where we're going to go back
- 19:14Speaker 1: to heartline. How good of a coach are you? How
- 19:16Speaker 1: much can you get corrected going into week two? And
- 19:19Speaker 1: so if that offensive line can hold up against an
- 19:22Speaker 1: Army front that isn't known to apply a lot of pressure,
- 19:25Speaker 1: the passing game really can open up here. And again,
- 19:28Speaker 1: I think it has to. And so I actually think,
- 19:31Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, USF's always going to try to
- 19:33Speaker 1: run the ball first. But I do believe if they
- 19:38Speaker 1: start the run game early in this football game and
- 19:43Speaker 1: it doesn't work, Unlike last week, I think they will
- 19:46Speaker 1: get away from it. Where last week, they just stuck
- 19:49Speaker 1: with it. Run, run, run, run, run, even when it
- 19:52Speaker 1: wasn't working. So I'd like to see them take some,
- 19:55Speaker 1: take some shots downfield early, you know, get, get Army's
- 20:00Speaker 1: coverage back a little bit and then take them, take
- 20:02Speaker 1: advantage of them with the athletes you have on the outside.
- 20:06Speaker 1: I think that is how they are going to win
- 20:09Speaker 1: this game. Because Army wants to limit the possessions. Army
- 20:12Speaker 1: wants to control the clock. Which, by the way, so
- 20:15Speaker 1: do you. But that's Army's game. That's what they've been
- 20:18Speaker 1: known at for years. So I don't know if you
- 20:21Speaker 1: want to go in there and try to beat Army
- 20:23Speaker 1: at their own game. And I just think if you
- 20:25Speaker 1: can hit some explosive plays, I just think that's going
- 20:29Speaker 1: to lead to success. And the offense needs to create
- 20:31Speaker 1: some explosive plays this week. So the big questions that
- 20:36Speaker 1: I want answered on Saturday are, Can USF's offense be
- 20:39Speaker 1: much better than it was against FIU?
- 20:41Speaker 2: I think it can be. It has to be. It
- 20:44Speaker 2: really can't get any worse.
- 20:45Speaker 1: It really, you put up one touchdown and the field
- 20:48Speaker 1: goals you get were because the defense put you in
- 20:51Speaker 1: a really good position. Got to sustain longer drives. They
- 20:54Speaker 1: didn't sustain any long drives. When I looked at the drive,
- 20:57Speaker 1: it's one thing watching it, but then when I printed
- 20:59Speaker 1: out the drive sheet and I'm looking at it on
- 21:01Speaker 1: paper and you see it takes up this much line
- 21:04Speaker 1: on the paper and then FIU's offense is taking up
- 21:06Speaker 1: this much space, on the paper when it comes to
- 21:09Speaker 1: their drives. It wasn't super encouraging, but this week that
- 21:14Speaker 1: has to change. Can Josh Aldridge slow down Army's option again?
- 21:20Speaker 1: He's done it twice. Can he go three for three?
- 21:22Speaker 1: We'll be paying attention to that. And then my last
- 21:25Speaker 1: thing is, can USF win the limited possession battle?
- 21:30Speaker 2: So I'm going to.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Go with USF to win this football game in a
- 21:35Speaker 1: bounce back game. I would not bet money on it.
- 21:39Speaker 1: I wouldn't go money line USF or anything like that.
- 21:42Speaker 1: I'm going to stay away from that. But I do
- 21:46Speaker 1: feel good because it's the mentality they're going to go
- 21:50Speaker 1: into this game. I think the one thing that stood
- 21:52Speaker 1: out to me that Thomas Schrader said was before that
- 21:55Speaker 1: FIU game, they thought they had already made it. And
- 22:00Speaker 1: if you remember on Monday's show after the game, I
- 22:02Speaker 1: said this was a humbling experience for Brian Hartline. He's
- 22:05Speaker 1: never been humbled like this before. The whole team got
- 22:09Speaker 1: humbled real quick. And hearing a player tell me that
- 22:14Speaker 1: they thought they've already made it before a game kicks off,
- 22:18Speaker 1: I don't like that. Don't like that at all. That
- 22:21Speaker 1: starts at the top. Nobody here has made it. All right,
- 22:24Speaker 1: this program has been on the rise, but these are
- 22:26Speaker 1: all new players. None of you have made it. You
- 22:27Speaker 1: have to go out there and prove it. And what
- 22:29Speaker 1: I like is, and maybe they learned it a little
- 22:32Speaker 1: bit too late, but at least they're learning it after
- 22:33Speaker 1: a victory, and it wasn't a loss. At least they've
- 22:36Speaker 1: learned it. And they know they haven't made it. You
- 22:39Speaker 1: don't just walk out there on a Saturday in college
- 22:41Speaker 1: football and pull off a victory. So I really think
- 22:47Speaker 1: they win this football game. I think it's going to
- 22:50Speaker 1: be a low-scoring game. I'm going to say, because here's
- 22:54Speaker 1: the thing. I know Army put up a lot of
- 22:56Speaker 1: points last week. It's hard for me to take everything
- 23:00Speaker 1: that I'm telling you about Army. I'm going based off
- 23:02Speaker 1: of last year. They played Bryant. Bryant is an FCS program.
- 23:09Speaker 1: No disrespect to them. I know they're really good at
- 23:11Speaker 1: their level, but it is a whole different level below
- 23:14Speaker 1: this level. And so when I went back and I
- 23:19Speaker 1: watched some of their game, it's like preseason NFL football.
- 23:24Speaker 1: I think it's hard to really learn anything, but I
- 23:27Speaker 1: do think it's going to be a limited. I do think, again,
- 23:30Speaker 1: I've pounded that message, limited possession. So I think it'll
- 23:33Speaker 1: be low scoring. I'm going to say UCF, wow, did
- 23:38Speaker 1: I just say the ultimate swear word? I'm going to
- 23:40Speaker 1: say USF wins this football game. The reason why I
- 23:45Speaker 1: said UCF, let me state my case here. I'm getting
- 23:48Speaker 1: into the UCF-USF rivalry next, and I was looking at
- 23:51Speaker 1: my notes.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Sorry.
- 23:56Speaker 1: USF is, I think, going to go put up 21 points.
- 24:05Speaker 1: and i'm gonna go army 17 usf 21 army 17
- 24:16Speaker 1: that is my prediction all right now to ucf usf
- 24:22Speaker 1: ucf usf fiu fau uf fsu my god i apologize
- 24:28Speaker 1: bulls fans um Let's talk about the UCF-USF stuff. Looks
- 24:35Speaker 1: like the rivalry not going to renew anytime soon, which
- 24:39Speaker 1: is very disappointing. Because this is a rivalry that I
- 24:46Speaker 1: think needs to happen, especially on the USF side. They
- 24:50Speaker 1: need this rivalry more than UCF. Unfortunately, it sucks to
- 24:55Speaker 1: say that. It kind of feels like right now UCF
- 24:59Speaker 1: is getting you back for the way that you treated
- 25:00Speaker 1: them years ago when you were in the Big East
- 25:02Speaker 1: and they were in Conference USA. And now they're doing
- 25:07Speaker 1: what you did to them. Let's just be honest with it.
- 25:11Speaker 1: There was a quote from their athletic director over at USF. See,
- 25:14Speaker 1: now I did it to them. There was a quote
- 25:16Speaker 1: from the athletic director over at UCF. My God. I
- 25:22Speaker 1: should just say Central Florida and South Florida would make
- 25:24Speaker 1: this so much easier. The athletic director at the University
- 25:28Speaker 1: of Central Florida said when USF gets into an autonomy conference,
- 25:34Speaker 1: it will be easier.
- 25:36Speaker 2: That's my game.
- 25:37Speaker 1: And I'd never have to leave the state to fulfill
- 25:39Speaker 1: the Big 12's powerful non-conference requirement. We'll play USF every year.
- 25:45Speaker 1: That would be great. Now, the key word that stands
- 25:47Speaker 1: out when USF gets in. So kind of feels like
- 25:51Speaker 1: he thinks they will get into a power conference soon.
- 25:54Speaker 2: The Big 12 makes so much sense.
- 25:56Speaker 1: I think that if they ever get into one of
- 25:58Speaker 1: the power force, it will be the Big 12 or
- 26:00Speaker 1: it will be the ACC. There's a lot of people
- 26:03Speaker 1: that have I've seen a lot of rumors about the
- 26:05Speaker 1: Big 10. The Big 10 to me doesn't make as
- 26:07Speaker 1: much sense. The ACC and the Big 12 make so
- 26:10Speaker 1: much sense for USF to be part of that conference.
- 26:13Speaker 1: And if I had a choice, I would like it
- 26:15Speaker 1: to be the Big 12, because I do think rivalries
- 26:18Speaker 1: in college football are important. And this is a rivalry
- 26:21Speaker 1: I think college football needs. I think the state of
- 26:23Speaker 1: Florida needs this rivalry. USF absolutely needs this rivalry. And
- 26:29Speaker 1: in a degree, UCF needs it too.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Maybe not financially. It doesn't fit in for them.
- 26:35Speaker 1: And that's my problem with college football. Because really that's
- 26:39Speaker 1: the answer from the athletic director at UCF is financially
- 26:43Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. And this is what I hate
- 26:46Speaker 1: about the new world of college football.
- 26:48Speaker 2: It's all about money. And I get it.
- 26:52Speaker 1: But I just wish for once a decision could be
- 26:55Speaker 1: made in college football that is best for the fan.
- 27:01Speaker 1: And I know it's never going to happen. I understand
- 27:03Speaker 1: why it's not going to happen. I just personally wish
- 27:06Speaker 1: it could happen. No decision has ever been made for
- 27:09Speaker 1: the fan. And it drives me crazy because without the fan,
- 27:13Speaker 1: you're not as big as you are.
- 27:15Speaker 2: You're not making as much money as you are.
- 27:18Speaker 1: And it sucks that none of the decisions can benefit
- 27:22Speaker 1: us because maybe UCF doesn't want to play this because
- 27:26Speaker 1: they feel there's no benefit.
- 27:27Speaker 2: And I get it. You're a power four school.
- 27:29Speaker 1: If you lose to a group of six, which this
- 27:31Speaker 1: is a group.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Of six school you could lose to, could ruin your season.
- 27:36Speaker 1: If you win the game, it's like, oh, well, it
- 27:40Speaker 1: was a group of six.
- 27:40Speaker 2: You're supposed to win.
- 27:41Speaker 1: So they feel like financially, yes, they feel there's no
- 27:45Speaker 1: benefit by coming here, but They also look at it
- 27:48Speaker 1: as scheduling. That's a game we could lose. And if
- 27:51Speaker 1: we lose that game, that's a bad look for us.
- 27:54Speaker 1: They're a group of six. That's how they look at it.
- 27:57Speaker 1: And so I get that front a little bit. Now,
- 28:00Speaker 1: the whole home and home. Notre Dame is going to
- 28:03Speaker 1: come here. Florida has come here. Alabama has come here. Now,
- 28:06Speaker 1: I know some of those were two for one. I
- 28:08Speaker 1: think Alabama, right? They're going to Alabama twice. Alabama came
- 28:11Speaker 1: here once. I'd be willing to do that for UCF.
- 28:14Speaker 1: And I understand that. the leadership at USF not wanting
- 28:18Speaker 1: to do that because it almost goes, I'm not going
- 28:20Speaker 1: to give them the power so that I understand, but
- 28:25Speaker 1: I would almost give them the power, go up to
- 28:29Speaker 1: their place and whip their ass and have that and
- 28:34Speaker 1: own that. To me, the fans want it. I would say, yeah, I, again,
- 28:40Speaker 1: and I get the school side, not wanting to do
- 28:41Speaker 1: a two for one. I think the fans would take it.
- 28:45Speaker 1: I think you almost have to swallow your pride, understand
- 28:48Speaker 1: the situation we're in right now, and maybe it won't
- 28:51Speaker 1: always be this situation. And that'll be great if it's not.
- 28:55Speaker 1: But with the situation it is right now, I would
- 29:01Speaker 1: do it. I'd go up there and, like I said,
- 29:04Speaker 1: whip their ass. Do the two for one. If that
- 29:11Speaker 1: is on the table, I'd like to see the two
- 29:13Speaker 1: for one to bring this rivalry back. And then hopefully
- 29:16Speaker 1: these guys play in a power four together. I'd like
- 29:19Speaker 1: to see USF get into the big 12. Cause you know,
- 29:21Speaker 1: I look at the rivalries in the big 12. This
- 29:25Speaker 1: would be a top three rivalry in that conference. I
- 29:27Speaker 1: think BYU, Utah, that's going to be number one, Arizona,
- 29:31Speaker 1: Arizona state. I'd put it number two. Like, I think,
- 29:35Speaker 1: I think Farmageddon is up there. Kansas and Kansas state
- 29:37Speaker 1: and TCU and Baylor.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Another one.
- 29:39Speaker 1: I could, i could slide this into the three spot
- 29:42Speaker 1: you know byu and utah you got the history the
- 29:44Speaker 1: intensity arizona arizona state's got the history as well tcu
- 29:49Speaker 1: baylor kansas kansas state they all got the history USF-UCF
- 29:54Speaker 1: don't necessarily have that. The records are 8-6, so they
- 29:58Speaker 1: haven't played each other very many times. But there's a
- 30:02Speaker 1: genuine hatred there. And their proximity, I'm a sucker for
- 30:06Speaker 1: in-state rivalries. I think they're great for college football. And
- 30:10Speaker 1: so I'd feel comfortable putting that as a top three
- 30:14Speaker 1: rivalry in the Big 12. At worst, it's top five.
- 30:20Speaker 1: So I think it would be a win for the
- 30:21Speaker 1: Big 12.
- 30:22Speaker 2: I think it's needed.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Now, I think the one thing that being a USF fan,
- 30:26Speaker 1: I think when you look at the UCF fans like, oh,
- 30:29Speaker 1: we don't need this. We have our Big 12 schedule.
- 30:32Speaker 1: We're focused on winning that. They talk like the Big
- 30:36Speaker 1: 12 is a gauntlet. And I just, I don't think
- 30:41Speaker 1: it's a gauntlet of a schedule. And by the way,
- 30:44Speaker 1: I also think Let's say USF and UCF do the
- 30:49Speaker 1: home and home. Let's say USF wins. I don't think
- 30:54Speaker 1: UCF season's over. In fact, I don't think the game
- 30:57Speaker 1: plays any factor into UCF in what they want to
- 31:01Speaker 1: accomplish in a season because UCF, in my opinion, I
- 31:05Speaker 1: still think they're years away. Right now, where they stand,
- 31:09Speaker 1: their only chance into the college football playoff is winning
- 31:11Speaker 1: the Big 12. And losing to USF doesn't... hurt you
- 31:15Speaker 1: from winning the big 12. I just, I don't see
- 31:17Speaker 1: them as a program getting in as a at large
- 31:21Speaker 1: bid into a 12 team playoff. Now, if they expand
- 31:24Speaker 1: to 16 and 24, yes, being an at large, you know,
- 31:28Speaker 1: team is, is on the table for them. But with
- 31:31Speaker 1: the current playoff structure, their only way in is to
- 31:35Speaker 1: win the big 12.
- 31:36Speaker 2: And this game would.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Play no factor into stopping them from doing so. So
- 31:41Speaker 1: that's why I think UCF should take the game. And
- 31:43Speaker 1: I also think a majority of their fans, despite the
- 31:45Speaker 1: ones on social media talking the trash, I think the
- 31:48Speaker 1: real Twitter, I always say represents the worst in every
- 31:51Speaker 1: fan base. I think the real UCF fans, the ones
- 31:54Speaker 1: that aren't typing away on keyboards, they want this.
- 31:57Speaker 2: You want this. And this is something that needs to happen.
- 32:00Speaker 2: We got to figure it out.
- 32:01Speaker 1: It just, it can't just be because, oh, financially, it
- 32:04Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Get it done for the fans because
- 32:07Speaker 1: the fans, they deserve that more than really anything. And
- 32:12Speaker 1: so I'd like to see that, that get done. All right,
- 32:15Speaker 1: that does it for me. USF got a beating Army 21-17.
- 32:20Speaker 1: That is my prediction for Saturday, that game at noon
- 32:24Speaker 1: up at Army in West Point, day after 9-11. Going
- 32:27Speaker 1: to be an emotional day. Going to be, hopefully, a
- 32:30Speaker 1: victory for USF, and hopefully on Monday. Monday will be
- 32:33Speaker 1: when I put out the next show. Hopefully, we're talking
- 32:36Speaker 1: about a USF victory. Then Wednesday's show, we'll talk to
- 32:39Speaker 1: another player, and then we'll do, on Thursday, we'll do
- 32:43Speaker 1: a a week three preview is kind of the schedule
- 32:46Speaker 1: that I'm getting on right now.
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- 32:59Speaker 2: That is going to do it for this episode.
- 33:02Speaker 1: And I'll talk to you guys after the game, hopefully
- 33:05Speaker 1: a victory on hopefully we'll call it a, hopefully I'm
- 33:08Speaker 1: talking to you on a victory Monday. All right. How's
- 33:10Speaker 1: that sound? All right, go bowls. I'll talk to you
- 33:13Speaker 1: guys soon.