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Part 2: The scenarios are getting muddier and muddier, no one has seen or heard from Cari in two years, she had not been working but yet she has money to travel and stalk. This time she is threatening to kill Dave's kids that he had with his ex. · Maintaining Your Badassness!

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  We are starting part two of lover stalker killer
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  Here's the thing Always research them body I
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  Know I know I know it takes time and when you
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  met that person it's so magical But don't go
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  to their house on the first night Or the second
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  night or the third night or the fourth night
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  or the fifth night investigate that motherfucker
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  it just might save your life if he doesn't have
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  a criminal history he might be planning wrong
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  with the third party and the third party can
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  kill your ass if they're crazy enough so pay
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  attention and listen to part two it might save
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  you some chaos in your life And the texts keep
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  coming You are fucking whore Liz and then the
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  man says he felt like Liz was being harassed
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  because he dated this other woman Remember Liz
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  is the first one he met and He told her he was
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  not looking for anything serious and then came
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  along this other woman who told him she was not
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  looking for anything serious and this other woman
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  started harassing Liz doing all this crazy shit
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  if you're lost go back to part one honey you
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  won't regret this so this other woman was telling
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  Liz she's a homewrecker and She's a whore This
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  is the same woman who told the man that she didn't
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  want anything serious and they were only dating
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  for two weeks Are you listening? Are you listening?
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  Listen after Dave broke up with Liz After the
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  second woman starts harassing Liz Liz went to
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  Dave for comfort And because she was scared,
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  Dave said he felt like he needed to protect Liz.
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  And they rekindled their relationship. Begin
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  putting the parts together. Connect the dots,
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  people. By the way, they're kissing in front
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  of the big window. With the blinds open and no
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  curtains. I Don't know what some of y 'all do
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  this I Used to do it when I was young 21 have
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  my first apartment. I used to have sheer curtains
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  I never left my blinds open, but I didn't realize
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  you can actually see through sheer curtains.
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  I Put some sheets up there and the next week
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  I couldn't afford to go buy anything the next
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  day the next week I wouldn't bought some blackout
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  curtains so they're kissing in front of the window
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  where everybody can see like come on now and
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  they know this person is stalking them so Amy
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  is Day's ex -partner like I mentioned before
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  They have a few kids and the kids go over Dave's
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  house on the weekends. Now at this point Liz
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  and Dave are living together. Are you confused
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  enough? I sure was until I had to like listen
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  to it again and sort back and you know do the
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  pegs and all that crap. So the kids are aware
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  of what was going on. kudos to Amy because after
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  the kids told her about the vandalization vandalization
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  vandalizing whatever in the text message and
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  the harassment Amy put her foot down and said
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  no if you want to see the kids come to my house
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  damn it you won't have my kids going through
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  all that shitty chaos I don't know if Dave even
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  told her the kids had to tell her like what a
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  dumbass Anyway... This bitch is crazy. Anyway,
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  Dave gets a call from Liz while he is at work.
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  He comes home and he sees a window smashed out.
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  With the message on the wall or something, go
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  away whore. I have nothing else to say after
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  that. Let's continue. so the message was written
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  in red lipstick and on his bed he saw a lot of
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  Liz's clothes had been slashed up and coming
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  from his quote they've been slashed up in a murdering
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  ring style like a lot of her clothes has been
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  slashed he's showing pictures like hmm so he's
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  protecting Liz The woman he met briefly Before
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  he met Carrie but candy whatever her name But
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  he he's protecting Liz While his kids are in
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  like involved But he's so worried about protecting
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  Liz that He's not even thinking about how is
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  it affecting his kids Put Liz's ass out and allow
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  your kids to come over. Like, come on. Liz was
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  there when Carrie broke in. Would Liz have actually
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  gotten stabbed? Now, Liz is looking out the window.
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  This is a real threat. This isn't bullshit. With
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  no curtains, and she's that damn scared of Carrie.
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  Now Carrie is sending messages. She will die.
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  No one can stop me. You can see Liz, big as day,
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  looking out the windows. With no curtains. Alright
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  people, are you putting this together? Are you
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  putting this together? So the investigator, he
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  had probable cause to arrest Carrie. He had a
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  warrant, but he could not serve her because he
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  couldn't find her. So, according to Dave, this
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  has been going on for over a year. He's been
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  going out to dinner with his kids and he would
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  get random messages while he was out with his
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  kids saying, I know where you are. I know what
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  restaurant you're at. Is the food good? Not only
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  is the stalker stalking Liz, but she's fucking
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  with Dave and his kids. These people are very
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  dangerous. They don't care who it affects. They
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  would go after your whole family if need be.
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  So Carrie sends a message to Dave. I can get
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  in the door. I mean, I can get in the building.
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  I put my ear up against the door and I hear what
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  you're saying at all times. And the police...
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  still can't find her even though she lives a
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  couple blocks from day's work no trace nothing
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  so if you send a message I am watching you and
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  the way they are doing this in this show is so
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  creepy they show a person in all black with a
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  black hoodie on Standing in front of his peephole
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  and then walking off So Dave is stressing out
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  now He spends more and more time at the bar.
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  He had a drink just to take the edge off But
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  he is losing it, baby He is losing it Hmm But
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  I tell you about those threesomes those secret
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  threesomes he let somebody into his life, but
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  not knowing if the other chick is crazy and if
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  people are going to be harmed around this action.
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  somebody pouring gasoline all over a house and
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  lighting on fire with a match. So Carrie sent
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  a message to Dave and said, I set that fucking
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  whore's house on fire. I hope the whore and her
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  kids die in it. Now how crazy is that? So Dave
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  leaves the bar, rushes over to Liz's house, and
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  is engulfed. Like... It's engulfed. Hopefully,
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  there was no kids in that house. They pullin'
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  out Dernie's, the ambulance. Now Liz is lookin'
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  at her house on fire. Now Dave's comfortin' her.
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  She put her head on his... on his chest okay
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  all of Liz's pets died she had this adorable
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  German Shepherd the kind of dog I have they're
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  so loving she had a snake and I think two cats
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  so whoever Liz's house was on fire house on fire
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  is beyond crazy I hope y 'all paying close attention
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  to this. The ending is gonna be shocking. These
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  have lost everything she owns. Now she's homeless.
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  Now Liz is talking to a defiant investigator,
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  right? And he's asking what causes this and she's
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  telling him that Carrie, the woman who's been
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  dating for two weeks, has been threatening and
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  talking to her, right? Now she says, what about
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  my animals? I know they're all dead. Then the
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  investigator says, The Humane Society is going
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  to take care of the animals. Sorry. The Humane
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  Society is going to take care of the animals.
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  Sorry. I just wish we could go back. So after
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  the fire Liz took what belongs she had and moved.
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  She didn't tell Dave where she moved because
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  obviously she didn't want Carrie to come after
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  her. blame her one bit. She did not want Terry
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  to come along after her. At that point, I felt
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  alone. I didn't know whether to be mad or sad
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  or cry. I had lost my partner or the one person
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  who understood what I was going through. Yeah,
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  he said she was still out there. Is she alive
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  or dead? And Carrie is the one who's supposedly
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  been stalking Liz, setting Liz's house on fire,
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  threatening to kill Liz and her kids. But the
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  police can't find her anywhere. So all of a sudden
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  Liz packs up a move. Hmm, okay. agency. So two
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  years earlier, I'd heard that there's another
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  couple of detectives looking into somebody named
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  Perry Farmer as a missing person. I'd heard that
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  she was a single mom that kind of just vanished.
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  Nobody had physically seen her, but she was still
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  communicating, getting emails and text messages.
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  At the same time, the detective from Omaha Police
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  Department had been investigating arson and harassment.
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  and vandalism, but after a long time the case
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  had kind of gone cold for the investigators that
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  were looking into it. This is Carrie's mother,
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  Nancy. So after the case had gone cold, two detectives
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  went to their boss and asked if they can take
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  the case over because it intrigued them a bit
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  much. The boss said, yeah. So they went and talked
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  to Carrie Farber's mother, Nancy, and this is
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  what you hear. Nancy Tell, the new detective.
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  Grandma, there's probably some things she didn't
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  tell me, but I had some things that I didn't
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  tell my mother, but she'd always call home. I
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  couldn't make sense of it, and that's when we
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  reported her missing. I first got involved in
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  the case. I got involved because it sounded interesting.
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  Once I met Nancy, it turned for me. I wanted
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  to get her answers. Because it sounded interesting.
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  Once I met Nancy, it turned for me. I wanted
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  to get her answers. Looking through the case
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  file, The original reports noted that Carrie
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  had a history of bipolar disorder. So get this.
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  Dave met Carrie at his mechanic shop, right?
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  They didn't hit it off then, but when he was
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  online on his profile, he saw her picture. He
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  sent her message and said hey, I know you she
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  said yeah you do Then that's when they start
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  going out She lived to help two blocks away from
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  his work and she starts spending night at his
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  house Not knowing she had this bipolar order.
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  I mean bipolar Symptom And she wasn't taking
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  her medication is an example of why you should
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  look people up and or get to know them before
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  you start sleeping with them, before you let
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  them at your house, around your kids. Man, I
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  believe most of us have done that and we're lucky
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  to be still living and breathing but take the
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  time to investigate and take your time inviting
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  people over your house so after Dave moved to
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  Nebraska Liz was on a picture so he says and
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  he wanted to start dating again so he hops on
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  Nebraska dead insights here we go again here
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  we go again Dave Hold your horses and take some
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  time out. So he moved away from his kids That's
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  just that just dawned on me He moved away from
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  his kids at first. He was trying to protect Liz
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  a person he known for a hot minute from Carrie
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  a person He'd been sleeping with for two weeks
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  after he's known her for a hot minute And you
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  move away from your kids after you put them in
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  danger. Okay. Punk rocker chick The person who
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  he messages punk rocker chick, I think she was
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  29 So he set up a date He went to the restaurant
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  waiting for her listening this get the message
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  punk rocker chick says I'm coming I'm running
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  a little late so he sat there longer than an
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  hour more sit there sit there now it's raining
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  and thundering you sit there and sit there is
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  he desperate about the time He decides that she's
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  not coming. Maybe two hours he's been sitting
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  there. She sends another message and guess what
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  the message said. This is Carrie. Mmm, baby.
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  This is Carrie. Fuck you. That's what the message
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  said. Told you. Now, Carrie is targeting Dave's
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  ex, Amy, with the two kids that he moved away
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  from. Now he's in Nebraska. I think she still
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  lives in Iowa. Now Carrie is targeting her. Is
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  it Carrie? Is it Liz? Is it Dave? Is it somebody
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  else? Stay tuned to find out. So Common Sense
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  will tell you that it may not be Carrie because
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  the detectives can't find her. She lived two
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  blocks away from Day's work. She hasn't gone
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  to work. Her mother hasn't heard from her. Now
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  the stalker says, I'm going to cut Amy's throat.
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  Wait till I slit her throat. And Amy... is a
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  mother of his two kids. If I can get rid of you,
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  I would. So how the hell did she get Amy's number?
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  Like... I know phone numbers are easy to get,
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  but how she know Amy's name, Amy's full like...
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  This bitch is crazy. Off she has time. For is
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  a stock people But then the text messages started
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  involving my children They're playing at the
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  park Somebody's watching her and her kids play
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  at the park and I bet you she's gonna start getting
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  text messages But then the text messages started
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  involving my children the park to play for a
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  while. Yep, she got a text message that says
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  Ryan's on the slide. And you're pushing Lexi
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  on the swing. Naturally, she lives with her kids.
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  I'm sleeping on the couch with a baseball bat.
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  I woke him up to tell him to go into his own
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  room. And when I asked him why he was sleeping
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  on the couch, he said that he was going to protect
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  us. Poor baby. It was heartbreaking. We're kind
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  of sick monster. What would do that? Like, wow.
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  So Dave finally went and bought a pistol. Because
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  he needs to protect his kids. Okay, he bought
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  a pistol. 9mm Smith & Wesson. He's dead. He's
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  not a gunslinger so he won't have it hanging
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  off his head. And he puts it in the case and
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  puts it on top of the shelf in his room. So his
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  kids can't reach it. He's kind of slow. After
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  all this he decides just now to go get a gun
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  and not have it on his body So it's been two
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  years since they heard from since they anybody
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  seen Carrie Carrie hasn't gone to work But remember
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  Carrie lives two blocks from day's work days
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  old work and Carrie is Stalking people Send in
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  text messages to Dave Liz now Amy But she's using
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  burner phones She has all these burner phones
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  with all these different numbers So where's she
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  getting the money from if she's not working She's
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  not working nobody's seen her She hasn't used
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  her credit card for gas or for anything else.
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  She's obviously not staying at her apartment
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  or house. How's she getting the money? And how's
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  she avoiding all these people seeing her? for
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  two years at this point. The emails and the messages
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  and the social media alone were not proof that
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  Carrie Barber was alive. In those messages, Carrie
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  said she was quitting her job, moving to Kansas,
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  and just needed some space. But when we looked
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  at the original investigator's photographs of
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  Carrie's home, we found that her closet was still
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  full of clothes. All of her belongings are still
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  in that house. It was just like she was coming
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  back tomorrow. She was coming back this afternoon.
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  Nothing was changed. The bed was made. The coat
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  was still hanging on a chair. Nothing there suggested
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  that she had packed up and moved to a different
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  city. We got Carrie's bank records, and what
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  we saw then was two transactions that had happened
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  just a couple days after she went missing. And
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  after that, there's nothing. It's hard to exist
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  without money. So the last transaction was made
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  in Omaha, Nebraska at a family dollar. I believe
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  in 2012. So this ends the second session of this
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  podcast. Stay tuned. for the third and final
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  session. It will absolutely knock your socks
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  off. Until then, remember to stay safe, stay
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  vigilant and keep on investigating people.