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TWR Wednesday | Censorship Under The Guise of Protecting Children & More! · The Whitfield Report

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  It's the Whitfield Report live with your host.
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  Author Sam Whitfield joined us always by his Trophy Co host
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  Maxim and Mortheus with music by the Right to Offend house band.
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  And now, without further ado, here's Sammy.
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  To the Whitfield report F1. I just don't know how I can do
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  this show tonight. It's, it's been really hard this
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  week. We, it's been a really, it's
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  been a really tough one, folks. RIP Craig's Twitter account.
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  Again. Yep.
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  Damn. I didn't.
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  You know, I used to think that like there was no persecution of
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  the Jews. They're after the Jew.
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  But then I see Craig get banned over and over and over again.
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  There's got to be something to it.
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  Maybe they're. Persecuting doctors.
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  I'm not sure how I could call backs.
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  I just. I know how hard this Twitter
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  meant to you, Sam. I'm going to.
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  I'm going to. Miss all his tweets about about
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  Gamergate 2. Maybe he'll go to Blue Sky.
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  I. I can.
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  I can still hear his his chuckling as he's tweeting out
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  shit posts. It's so unfair.
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  One day we'll be able to move forward, Sam.
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  Maybe today's not it. Yeah, but no, it it all it all
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  seriousness. Yeah.
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  Yuan, what are what are you? What are you doing?
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  I mean, come on. It seems like he's walking
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  around with his robot fuck buddy.
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  Is that? Is that what is he got a sexbot?
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  Is that what I'm seeing? I mean, I mean, I mean, that's
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  the other thing is like Craig could probably build them one
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  well. Well, actually, no, I take that
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  back. Steve could probably do better
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  with that. Well, yeah, but I don't think
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  either one of them wants to make you on a sex spot.
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  Only thing I like. I wouldn't want to work on an
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  Elon sex bot. That's a little weird.
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  Neither would I and. Here's the part that is weird is
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  to me, why does he bring his sex bot everywhere in public now?
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  This is weird. Keep it in your closet.
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  Look, nobody wants to see your Fleshlight.
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  Nobody wants to see your sex bot.
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  Just how it is Elon. You gotta learn about privacy.
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  Elon. I know he has autism so he might
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  not understand. Yeah.
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  No, we. We.
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  We don't want to see the LGBT sex.
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  We don't want to see the robot sex.
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  Also interesting Sam, I don't know if you know this, but his
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  sex spot is a black man. Have you seen this?
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  Have you heard about this? Robot sex.
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  Yeah, his name, he named it Groktimus, and it's a black
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  male. Oh, you guys didn't know?
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  You thought you thought I was just doing a bit.
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  No, he really has a robot that he takes with him called
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  Groktimus and it's a black guy. No, I mean, I, I believe you.
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  I believe you. It's just, Oh my God, look up.
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  Groktimus, you'll see it. He takes it all over with him.
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  He's taking pictures with it. And the the moment I saw it is
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  like, bro, we don't need your like big black bull robot
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  picture. Like we don't need to know what
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  you do. Elon, why did you do this?
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  So that's. Why I thought.
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  I thought for. Sure, he was straight because he
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  was with that Grimes broad, but hey, you know, maybe he's a
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  Robosexual. That's yeah, that that's.
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  He's a trisectual, He'll try anything.
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  We, we live in, we, we sure do live in interesting times.
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  Speaking of interesting times. So I actually do have, you know.
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  I. Actually have a bit of a of of a
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  fan thing from last week's show. So last week we kind of
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  celebrated the field of port conquering light night, which
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  and we did a we did a 5 hour epic stream about it.
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  We focused a lot on on Stephen Colbert and we mentioned Johnny
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  Carson. To be fair, because his show got
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  cancelled specifically, that's why we would focus on him.
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  Right. And my apologies to our sincere
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  apologies to the audience for making their eyes and dot ears
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  bleed for an hour because we we know nobody should have to watch
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  Stephen Colbert for for long. I am not sorry, Sam.
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  Sorry though. Well, well, I, I'm, yeah, I'm,
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  I, I have. This has to be hostile to the
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  audience. It's just the way these things
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  work. So it's got to be me, right?
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  You're too nice. Yeah, well, I will speak for
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  myself. I am sorry for subjecting the
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  audience to Stephen Colbert. Occasionally it might be more
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  theists as well. I have subjected audiences to
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  five hours of a Dice Golden movie.
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  I don't apologize for subjecting audiences to shit.
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  That is, that is true my whole. Show is about making you
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  uncomfortable by watching crazy people.
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  Yeah. So I can't.
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  It would be out of character for me to be sorry for making them
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  uncomfortable by watching a crazy guy.
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  The crazy guy in this case being Stephen Colbert, in case anybody
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  was. Are you that crazy person, Max?
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  No, no, I just have been hit in the head a lot.
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  Yeah. It's not crazy.
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  It's called post concussive syndrome.
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  More why? More Why wouldn't you be
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  sympathetic to that? Because that's one thing I don't
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  have. That that's now see, I now see,
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  I do have, I do have a bright injury, so I am sympathetic to
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  that. But they won't.
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  Let me. They won't let me fucking fight.
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  I talked about this like last summer, Sam.
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  They're not going to let me fight because insurance, because
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  I had a heart attack and because I have had so many concussions.
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  So I've taken up VR boxing, but we'll get there.
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  Very interesting anyway, though. So we subjected the audience to
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  Stephen Colbert last week, and I did mention Johnny Harson last
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  week and how Johnny Harson never brought politics on the show.
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  And as it turns out, a a listener who wishes to remain
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  anonymous sent me this clip in which Johnny Carson actually
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  talks about why he never talked about politics.
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  Before you get into the clip, I will say I don't think that's
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  entirely correct that he didn't talk politics.
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  It's just by today's standards they would consider his show
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  very political because he had very normal 1970s, nineteen 80s
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  opinions. So it was non political at the
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  time, but nowadays they would consider it extremely political.
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  I mean, yeah, that is fair. I I guess.
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  Well, I'm speaking like because you know, zoomers might not
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  understand that that the politics of the time was so
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  different that what what you would call like a non political
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  thing then would not be now. Gotcha.
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  But you're right that he was. He would go out of his way not
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  to alienate his audience on those types of issues.
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  Right, he didn't. He talked about this, just not
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  he didn't shit on half the fucking audience.
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  Right. Yeah, it's, it's one thing to
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  bring up an issue that everybody's talking about, and
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  it's another thing to say and half of you are wrong about it.
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  Well Johnny was great at just making a joke that both sides
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  would laugh at about the same. Yeah, thanks.
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  So this is a clip that a viewer sent to me and I had not seen
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  this until it was sent to me, but I think it's pretty
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  interesting and I wanted to see what you guys thought.
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  Also. Things that really bug you?
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  It's an interview not from his show, but rather an interview,
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  so even when he's going to talk politics here, it's not in the
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  context of The Tonight Show. Right.
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  So yeah, very. I thought I'd point that out
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  that even even when he does talk politics, it's in a different
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  venue. Yeah.
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  So and I, I and I don't have an exact date.
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  I think this might have been like either after he retired or
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  towards the end of his tenure. It looks late, it looks late
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  80s, early 90s. So I think you're right.
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  Yeah. When you come out and do your
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  monologues, which are really based on what you've read, do
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  you go home and worry about things?
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  Do you worry about this country? Are there things that really bug
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  you that you can't say in the year you're?
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  Going to get serious, aren't you?
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  A little bit. I think one of the dangers if
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  you are a comedian, which basically I am, if you start to
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  take yourself too seriously and start to comment on social
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  issues, your sense of humor suffers.
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  Somewhere I've seen other people whose names I won't mention, who
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  do humor, and then somewhere along the line they start to
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  want to make their views. No, I try to do it humorously.
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  I try not to. And we've had some criticism on
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  the show, some critics, over the years as well.
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  The show has no great sociological value.
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  It's not controversial. It's not deep.
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  The Tonight Show basically is to amuse people, to make them
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  laugh. Which, what a concept, huh?
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  Yeah, wild. And and he noticed he doesn't
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  say, oh, I don't have any opinions.
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  He just understands that the value of his opinions is not as
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  big as other people might get to say if they take themselves.
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  He said if they they start taking themselves seriously.
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  Exactly. Stephen Colbert is exactly that,
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  his humor. Actually, no, Stephen Colbert
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  was never funny. I take that back.
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  He's never been funny. Jimmy Fallon is exactly that.
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  Jimmy Fallon I actually thought was funny at some point when he
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  took over Conan O'Brien's show. Rather, at first, he had some
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  moments where I thought he was funny, even though I knew
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  politically we were, you know, miles apart.
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  But at some. And Jimmy Kimmel did this as
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  well. At some point along the way,
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  those guys took themselves very seriously and thought, man, I
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  got a platform. I have a duty to tell everybody
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  about all of my wonderful ideas. And just like Johnny said, your
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  humor suffers when you do that. Yeah, yeah, it absolutely.
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  It absolutely does. We kind of just, we kind of just
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  cut out the bullshit middleman on it.
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  And, and I think that's what's good about like modern Internet
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  late night shows, so to speak, or, or modern Internet comedy
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  like this, where we can put our biases right up front.
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  Yeah. And I think that Johnny's way is
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  good for a much larger audience and our way is good for the
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  Internet's more micro, microcosm economies where people will.
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  So like, yes, we can wear our bias on our sleeve.
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  We don't have to be like Johnny Carson.
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  Right. But we're also we understand
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  that we're trading half of the population might not find us
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  very funny. Right.
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  Yeah. I think to be fair though, I
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  think I think some particular at least like I've gotten this,
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  I've gotten this compliment, you know, it's one of the things I'm
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  kind of proud of. And it's kind of become our
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  motto to meet people where they're at, which means that,
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  yeah, sometimes we might go against the grain of, you know
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  what, what the, you know, what the right quote, UN quote, you
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  know, thinks is kosher or what they don't think is kosher.
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  You know, Moore and I were in a, in a thread on this very thing
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  just today where, I mean, I don't want to speak for more.
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  I don't want to speak for more of this, but I mean.
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  Fuck purity testing. Moore, you've, you've very much
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  said that even though you voted, even though you voted for Trump,
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  you wouldn't necessarily consider yourself a, a
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  conservative, right? Still necessarily.
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  I mean, I, I don't want to. Yeah.
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  You were speaking mainly against like purity testing on both the
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  right and the and. The right I would, I would, I
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  would put him where I'm at. He's a populist more than a
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  conservative. Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to
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  put me there, Max. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Like at the end of the day, if
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  MAGA goes away, I go away from the Republicans too.
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  Yep. So, and this is an interesting
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  predicament for the Republicans because yes, if they do wait for
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  Trump to like the neocons want to wait for Trump to leave and
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  then take back over, they're going to lose these numbers.
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  Oh yeah. I'm not going for a chicken
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  warhawk motherfucker like Bush ever again.
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  I will oppose that hard as. Now.
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  I'd rather I'd rather just sit out an election than elect
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  another warhawk, George W Bush. I've sat out so many goddamn
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  elections, I'm not afraid to do it again.
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  Yeah, we will. We will sit them out.
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  And, and so for the conservative conservatives, for the hardcore
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  conservatives, they need to realize that the power that
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  you've got through populism, you can't just give up populism and
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  keep it. Right.
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  And so. Populism is retarded, like this
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  Epstein stuff. You still have to abide
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  populism. That's what's going on right
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  now. I said last week, I've said a
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  million times I don't really like talking about that shit
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  because it's such a waste of everybody's fucking energy.
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  But the fact of the matter is it is a populist thing now, so it
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  has to be addressed. So even when the populists are
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  stupid and against their own self-interest and only
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  interested in something that doesn't benefit anybody, you
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  still have to abide the fucking populists.
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  That's the problem with populism is that people can be stupid,
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  selfish, and motivated by misinformation.
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  Yeah. So one thing that I think that
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  has kind of, you know, got everyone in a in, you know, kind
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  of a tizzy this week is this this kids online Safety Act,
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  which let me pull it up, pull up on screen.
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  Thanks for sending these links, by the way, Morpheus.
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  Absolutely. So to start with, I would like
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  to address this. If you told me to support the
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  Kids Online Safety Act, I would immediately oppose it just based
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  on the name and the fact that they always are the opposite of
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  what the name is. Yes.
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  Absolutely. So Max, you actually got to my
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  point so right. I didn't even have, I didn't
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  even have to really read what was.
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  So basically we did the opposite by Nancy Pelosi.
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  We didn't, we didn't have, we didn't even have to read the
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  bill. And you and all three of us are
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  basically saying fuck. Shoo what up your ass.
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  I, until the average age of Congress does not fall into the
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  boomer demographic, do not want them making any legislation on
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  technology. As a matter of fact, I want
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  every boomer out of there before we start making.
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  And I'm not kidding, Sam, that's not a joke.
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  I I, I agree. I actually people.
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  Can't use Twitter on their phone.
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  Why are they writing laws? I, I actually, I actually got
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  into a very heated and 1st off, I, I want to make this
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  absolutely clear. I, I, I love, I love the ladies
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  and gentlemen in the men's adventure fiction discord that
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  I'm in. OK, great folks love them.
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  But we got into, we got into a very heated debate because they
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  were, they were talking out AAI regulations and how it relates
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  to, you know, writing in a copyright.
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  I'm kind of on the, I'm kind of on the, you know, I kind of take
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  the unpopular stance that I think AI can actually be very
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  helpful for riders as long as you're not relying on it.
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  We take, we all take a very unpopular stance of like AI is
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  not the worst thing ever. Right and among.
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  Artists. And even, and even even in my,
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  even in my, you know, community, even in my community, it's like,
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  you know, again, we all love each other, but you know, I'm
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  kind of the odd man out. But I, I explained to everyone
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  that that this isn't going to have the effect that you guys
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  think it will because corpos will still be able to use AI.
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  And I basically said what you said, which is baiting, which is
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  that, you know, boomer congressman still have their
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  college interns sending tweets for them.
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  They don't know how to. They don't know how to use.
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  Their own iPhones for God's sakes.
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  And, and somebody might ask why does that matter?
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  And the answer is they don't know how to use as a user the
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  technology. That means they sure as fuck
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  don't understand the back end of it.
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  Right. And I.
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  And that's my biggest problem. They don't.
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  The only thing they understand is government wants a back end
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  to it. That's it.
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  Well, but but The thing is, is I don't even think that a lot of a
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  lot of them do think this is some good fucking thing.
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  They're not even but like they're just boomers.
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  They don't understand fucking technology at all.
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  And they like it's voodoo black magic to these people.
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  Yep. They don't know how code.
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  Works. They don't know how it's
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  accomplished. It's it's voodoo black magic and
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  they're trying to regulate this black magic.
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  And I I do not support that at all, ever.
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  Right. The other thing and related to
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  authors that I, I will give, I'll give Eric Bishop credit for
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  this because he actually he, you know, he, he said I made some
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  valid points on this. A lot of a lot of baby, a lot of
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  baby boomer cognizant they don't understand copyright laws, a lot
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  of them Even so and so. They got the they passed the
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  DMCA. That was boomers and they didn't
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  know about fucking any of that shit then.
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  Yeah. Like the DMC, like we all accept
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  the DMCA as the law of the land, but I have been saying since its
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  inception, it is a piece of shit legislation.
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  Piece of shit legislation. It is the worst Copyright Act.
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  If you are an artist and you care about your work, you do not
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  want the DMCA to be the thing protecting it.
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  And look what happens. You get copy struck, you get
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  DMCA claimed. Right?
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  But can somebody steal your work and repost it very easily?
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  Yep. So how did it protect anybody
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  from piracy? It hasn't.
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  All it is done, All the DMCA has done, has created copyright
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  trolls who steal people's legitimate work and screw over
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  people who make legitimate work by saying it's not your work.
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  Right, we do, right? Which is what?
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  Which is what? A lot.
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  Which is what like a lot of these trolls are now trying to
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  do with AI. Right, right.
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  And now AI is coming in and doing the exact same thing, and
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  it's because nobody bothered to protect copyright and nobody
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  cared in the DMCA and zoomers think DMCA means it's right.
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  Oh, DMCA, that's serious shit. No it's not.
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  It's a fucking piece of shit law that won't hold up if you took
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  it to the Supreme. If we got the case to take DMCA
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  to the Supreme Court, Sam, I guarantee you that provisions of
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  it would be labeled unconstitutional.
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  Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
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  And it's going to be the same thing with this Online Safety
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  Act. It was the same thing with the
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  COPPA. It's the same thing with the
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  PIPA. It's the same thing with the
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  Online Safety Act of 1999 that we're still dealing with the
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  fallout of. Every time they have legislated
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  the Internet, they have made it worse and fucked it up because
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  none of them are fucking the people making this.
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  None of them have worked in the field.
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  They they, like you said, they have their interns tweeting out
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  for them because they don't even know how to use fucking Twitter.
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  Yeah, I don't want them writing a God damn law about anything
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  technological. So, so I'll put this up on
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  screen just for you in the audience to see, but I've read
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  through this and more and I both have somewhat and I think to
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  basically summarize and more. Feel free to like correct me if
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  I miss out on anything. Basically this Kids Online
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  Safety Act is basically to prevent kids from seeing obscene
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  material online. And basically it's going to
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  basically it's going to require like all these websites to start
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  like basically getting your ID. Oh, getting your ID?
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  How'd that work out for the T app Sam?
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  Absolute ass. Funny.
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  Funny. You should Funny.
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  You should mention that. Yeah.
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  It's Gee, Yeah. All those all those bitches got
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  taxed. So.
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  That's what they want for all of us.
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  They want to dox the Internet. Let's be real.
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  It has nothing to do with kids seeing porn and it has
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  everything to do with they don't want us to be anonymous anymore.
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  And Thomas fucking Paine opposes that.
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  Thomas Paine, for those who are unaware, wrote Common Sense
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  anonymously. Common Sense was the treaty
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  about monarchy that convinced many Americans to participate in
• 25:16
  the revolution. This was written anonymously.
• 25:18
  Our country would not exist without anonymous free speech.
• 25:22
  When was the last time the fucking government and the
• 25:25
  fucking representatives give a flying fuck about kids?
• 25:30
  It's always a goddamn Trojan horse.
• 25:32
  Yeah, well, I I would, I would agree with this too, because
• 25:36
  right, anytime the government uses, oh, think of the children
• 25:41
  as an. Without exception, it's been a
• 25:43
  Trojan horse every single fucking time.
• 25:47
  Yes, so, so I kind of want to push back on on again a kind of
• 25:52
  a conservative Hawking is well, maybe.
• 25:55
  You said think of the children. I want to make my response to
• 25:58
  this whole thing very quickly. Sure.
• 26:03
  Think of the fucking adults. Exactly.
• 26:08
  Like it's why does one of those evoke so much more problem than
• 26:13
  the other? Also think of parents learning
• 26:16
  how to monitor their children. Oh my God, what a crazy concept.
• 26:23
  We we are all Margaret supporters.
• 26:26
  How about make parents parent again?
• 26:29
  Yeah, I mean it's I mean it, it's very so one thing I've
• 26:37
  often, you know, heard it's Oh well, you know, this is just
• 26:41
  going to affect porn sites and it is already.
• 26:45
  It is. Spotify is already asking for ID
• 26:47
  Sam. Well, yeah, yes, yes, I know.
• 26:50
  Thank you for fuck. Steam.
• 26:53
  You, you, you, you jumped ahead of me.
• 26:55
  But Even so, yeah, the so, yeah, I mean, this is the whole thing,
• 27:03
  right, Is they're using like Pornhub and all these sites as
• 27:07
  like the testing, you know, ground for a while.
• 27:09
  By the way, Sam, did you know that it's never been against the
• 27:14
  law for a minor to buy a parental advisory stickered
• 27:17
  album? I I did actually.
• 27:21
  Then why do you need, if you can as a 14 year old, buy any album
• 27:26
  at a record store? Why do you need to ID for
• 27:29
  Spotify for dirty words? Control.
• 27:33
  It's control, exactly. Yeah, yeah, control.
• 27:38
  And yeah, well, yeah, it yeah, it is, it is control.
• 27:46
  And you know, to all these people on the trad right, who
• 27:51
  are just saying, well, maybe people should just stop watching
• 27:55
  pornography in general, OK, well, the same argument can be
• 27:59
  applied, you know, that nobody needs to own a gun because guns
• 28:05
  kill kids, so. You know what, instead of just
• 28:09
  legislating the Gray areas around guns, what we could do is
• 28:14
  just say nobody should have guns anymore.
• 28:16
  That's the same argument. Yeah, it yeah, it yeah, it's,
• 28:20
  it's the exact same argument. And I've, I've gotten into,
• 28:23
  believe it or not, quite, quite a few spats with people over
• 28:27
  that this week because they, they try and they try and argue
• 28:33
  that, well, those are two completely different cases.
• 28:36
  And it's like, no, in this case, they're really not, you know, I
• 28:43
  mean, they could even be limiting like you're they could
• 28:47
  even be like putting your gun magazines under like adult
• 28:51
  content, you know, on a. Oh, you think you think that gun
• 28:55
  related content's not going to fall under it?
• 28:57
  Of course it is anything. The processors already fucking
• 29:02
  tried this with fucking guns and and gun.
• 29:06
  Yeah, well, like, well, like even I'm talking at like even
• 29:10
  just like gun, you know, like guns and ammo.
• 29:13
  The magazine. No, yeah, I'm talking, I'm
• 29:15
  talking about YouTube channels. I'm talking about like you go on
• 29:19
  a gun website, you're going to need an ID.
• 29:21
  That's what this is going to the gun.
• 29:23
  The the pro gun community is advocating a policy that will
• 29:28
  fuck them over. Yeah.
• 29:31
  Good job, idiots. Yeah, the yeah, the the the pro
• 29:35
  gun, the pro gun anti porn like this is yeah, it's it's a it's a
• 29:42
  very weird like, I don't know, it's very weird double edged.
• 29:48
  It's very weird to catch 22 that some of these people have
• 29:51
  themselves and now. I have AI have a solution to the
• 29:55
  problems that's actually the same, right.
• 29:58
  So like, you know, for guns, right, If you, if you don't like
• 30:04
  guns, you know, that sucks, but other people have the right to
• 30:09
  have them. If you don't and and you don't
• 30:12
  have to, you you think guns are really bad, Nobody's going to
• 30:15
  force you to ever touch one in your whole life.
• 30:18
  Right, that's. What's true about porn?
• 30:21
  Same thing what a common 1's. Forcing you to look at
• 30:25
  pornography. I hate to break it to you, but
• 30:28
  if you're looking at pornography it's because you're horny.
• 30:33
  And you. But Cindy is really nice.
• 30:40
  It's not it's like nobody's like damn, you look at this
• 30:44
  pornography, you're going to look at it and you're going to
• 30:46
  like it. Fuck the thing bro, Change the
• 30:50
  God damn channel and look after what your kids are watching.
• 30:53
  I fucking pay attention to what my kid when my kids on his
• 30:56
  tablet. I have a fucking app that tells
• 30:58
  me every fucking thing he does. Yeah.
• 31:02
  Well, well, again, this goes. This goes this goes back.
• 31:07
  Max. Yeah, well, well, this goes back
• 31:09
  to two things like. Video games on Xbox?
• 31:13
  I have parental control set and I allow him to.
• 31:16
  By the way, I allow him to play certain M rated games.
• 31:19
  That's not a problem, but I get to choose which ones.
• 31:24
  Yeah, well, also like also that's the other thing too,
• 31:28
  because like if this were to pass like Microsoft and Sony and
• 31:33
  Steam and all these other would require would require IDs for
• 31:38
  that. And after all the security
• 31:41
  breaches that these gaming, you know, companies have had, you
• 31:45
  think I'm going to give my state ID to these fuckers?
• 31:51
  No. So.
• 31:52
  So an easy solution to the problem that they're not even
• 31:56
  going to address because they don't actually want to solve the
• 31:58
  problem would be that you see, there's already a verification
• 32:03
  of your age, Sam. It's called having a fucking
• 32:06
  credit card in your name. Yes, right.
• 32:11
  And so if you have a Steam account, let's say, with your
• 32:14
  name, address, and credit card attached to it, they do.
• 32:17
  They do not need an ID to prove that you're over 18 unless
• 32:21
  you're using pay prepaid visa cards.
• 32:27
  What I think it should be that if if you use a prepaid visa
• 32:31
  card then you have to Idi. Think that might make some sense
• 32:35
  or ban using those for these kind of sites.
• 32:39
  But my fucking debit slash credit card proves I'm over 18,
• 32:44
  Merle. Right, right.
• 32:46
  They don't give. Those to minors, they don't even
• 32:48
  give them to people under 21. And, well, not.
• 32:51
  Credit cards. They'll give you a debit card
• 32:53
  when you're fucking 15 I guess. Yeah, well, well, and that was
• 32:58
  that was the exact same argument that the owners of Pornhub
• 33:04
  actually put out because they they they said that they weren't
• 33:10
  going to require the Face ID thing.
• 33:13
  And they actually brought up the fact that, you know, what you
• 33:18
  just said with the whole credit card and, you know, banking
• 33:20
  thing and the fact that like the fact that nobody in I, I mean, I
• 33:28
  have to be so cynical. I don't even think it's that
• 33:30
  they haven't thought of it. I just don't think it's that
• 33:33
  they don't care. This is just another way for you
• 33:36
  know. It wasn't like, hey, let's solve
• 33:38
  a problem. It was like, hey, how do we
• 33:40
  deanonymize the entire Internet? Yeah, and and one thing I do
• 33:47
  want to point out here is like a lot of these is that Richard
• 33:52
  Blumenthal is the one sponsoring that he's a he's a Democrat.
• 33:58
  This all this all goes back to if you, if you allow me to point
• 34:01
  out, if you allow me to put on my tinfoil hat, I think a lot of
• 34:06
  this is butt hurt over the fact that Trump won the election
• 34:11
  using podcast and what not, right?
• 34:14
  So they want to prevent, you know, dangerous misinformation
• 34:22
  from reaching impressionable people, right?
• 34:27
  So they want my ID tied to Spotify so they know exactly
• 34:31
  what I'm listening to. You know what's I would agree
• 34:38
  with you except for one thing. They already know that.
• 34:42
  Yeah. Well, that, that's, that's true
• 34:44
  too. Yeah.
• 34:46
  That's like a lot of people don't seem to understand how
• 34:49
  surveilled we already are. Yep.
• 34:52
  To say that you want more surveillance, Oh yeah, that's
• 34:55
  like saying you know I already have 3 Dicks in my ass, could
• 34:58
  you squeeze two more in? Well, that well, Max, it's the
• 35:02
  government there sure as hell going to try.
• 35:05
  That's right. And they're not going to be
• 35:08
  biological decks, Max. Yeah, well, you know, at a
• 35:13
  certain point they just start sticking shit in there.
• 35:16
  But I mean, if you're begging for more Dicks on the
• 35:22
  surveillance train and you don't think you're surveilled enough,
• 35:28
  I hate you. Like, genuinely like the person
• 35:32
  that feels they're not surveilled enough by our
• 35:35
  government. I hate you.
• 35:38
  I wish you to die of natural causes.
• 35:44
  In Minecraft. Yes.
• 35:46
  In reality. Well, the well.
• 35:49
  This is. Your house.
• 35:50
  Well, these are the same people who who probably the same people
• 35:55
  who want more surveillance are the same types of people who
• 35:59
  would probably, like, kill themselves by dropping a toaster
• 36:02
  in the oven in the bathtub on accident.
• 36:09
  Yeah, it's look one, You're not going to stop kids from seeing
• 36:14
  porn, particularly teenage boys. They're going to find dude.
• 36:20
  It couldn't stop us back in the fucking 90s when we were
• 36:22
  teenagers, man, you. Literally had to get verified
• 36:26
  with an ID to purchase pornography before the Internet
• 36:30
  and we still got it. Yes.
• 36:34
  We still found dirty maggots. I This is a crazy thing, Sam.
• 36:40
  I've I've found this out. I thought it was just me and my
• 36:44
  friends that found a cache of ultra dirty magazines in the
• 36:49
  woods, but it turns out that this is a very common experience
• 36:52
  for 80s kids. Me and the homies too.
• 36:56
  Who is putting porno in the woods?
• 36:58
  Sam? Who did this?
• 37:02
  Why? Everybody's ashamed, uncle.
• 37:07
  There's fucking. There's fucking caches of porn
• 37:11
  all through the woods in the 80s for little boys to find.
• 37:15
  Somebody was putting it there. I want to know who.
• 37:19
  It was it was. It was Santa.
• 37:21
  It was Santa Claus. It.
• 37:22
  Was Santa Claus next? That's.
• 37:25
  You know, I would agree with that, except for that he gave
• 37:27
  motherfuckers A lifelong crippling porn addiction.
• 37:32
  Easter Bunny. I was just thinking that like,
• 37:37
  that sounds like some MK Ultra shit, right?
• 37:40
  Like let's just leave porn in the woods in rural communities
• 37:44
  everywhere, what the fuck? But yeah, you're not going to
• 37:50
  stop kids from seeing boobs. It's not going to happen.
• 37:55
  And yeah, no and if. Anything.
• 37:59
  Unfortunately, teenage boys discovered boobs and then that's
• 38:03
  all we think about for literal years.
• 38:05
  You know, you know, Sam, what's another thing they don't like
• 38:08
  kids to see violence, right? Like shooting of guns.
• 38:13
  You know, this law wouldn't have prevented my son from witnessing
• 38:18
  a shooting right outside his house.
• 38:22
  Oh, it's almost like kids are going to see some shit in life.
• 38:25
  It's almost like you can't protect them like a.
• 38:30
  My there, there is actually, there is actually an argument to
• 38:36
  be made that like that violence is like eventually you would
• 38:43
  hope that your that your, that your son would see a pair of
• 38:47
  boobs in their lifetime, right? But you would never, but you
• 38:51
  would never hope. From his beautiful and virtuous
• 38:55
  wife that he'll marry and never have premarital sex with.
• 38:58
  Yes. Right, But you would never hope
• 39:01
  that you would never hope that your, that your kid would, you
• 39:04
  know, go off to war and see someone getting their head blown
• 39:07
  off, right? So why is 1 so much more taboo
• 39:13
  than the other? I don't.
• 39:16
  I don't know, but I don't. Know, I think nowadays violence
• 39:21
  might be equal taboo. You're allowed to talk about sex
• 39:27
  on YouTube. You're not allowed to talk about
• 39:29
  violence. Yeah, yeah, that, that is, that
• 39:32
  is true. And I did see that, like
• 39:35
  YouTube's new, I did see that YouTube's new rules are still
• 39:42
  gay. Well hey now you can say fuck in
• 39:48
  the 1st 7 seconds of a video that changes everything.
• 39:51
  Although you better limit your fucks, you only get so many
• 39:55
  before you're demonetized. But but Max, what if I don't
• 39:59
  have any more fucks to give? That's it.
• 40:02
  And then and then we're in trouble, huh?
• 40:05
  Yeah. It's such a like, I, I saw so
• 40:08
  many people like, oh, YouTube is getting better.
• 40:10
  No, it's not. It's the same.
• 40:12
  They're just not banning people as much.
• 40:15
  But then no, they're they're trying to drive independent
• 40:19
  creators off the platform. That's been the case for about 5
• 40:21
  years. Yeah.
• 40:22
  Well, like, well, like that's, that's The thing is like people
• 40:25
  are like, well, the author interviews aren't as
• 40:28
  controversial. You could put those up.
• 40:30
  And and like I said, I've I've toyed with that.
• 40:33
  But then I go back and like I've listened to a few hour in depth,
• 40:36
  you know, interviews with like Andrew Nelson where he's talking
• 40:39
  it like being a, you know, a, a homicide cop and seeing like
• 40:44
  domestic abuse. And I'm like domestic.
• 40:49
  Domestic violence right there is a word you can't say on YouTube.
• 40:53
  Yep. You can say.
• 40:54
  Fuck, you got a limited number of fucks, but if you say
• 40:57
  domestic violence, you're demonetized.
• 40:59
  That it's it's wild to me that our interview with like one of
• 41:03
  New New York's top cops. Literally, what else is he going
• 41:08
  to talk about but things related to police work?
• 41:13
  I mean, obviously he's got a lot more going on, but you.
• 41:15
  Oh yeah. Like he's a he's, he's a cop for
• 41:18
  what, 30 years total? Something like that.
• 41:20
  Yeah, yeah, over 30 years. Of course he's going to talk
• 41:25
  about crime and policing and but those words, hey, I responded to
• 41:31
  a call of a homicide demonetized.
• 41:34
  Right. Insane insanity.
• 41:37
  But that's that's where we're at.
• 41:40
  That's where we're at now. And just just because people
• 41:44
  don't make this comparison, Sam, but you can turn on ATV and you
• 41:47
  can watch Forensic Files, you can watch CSI, you can watch all
• 41:51
  of them. They say all of these things and
• 41:53
  they have bigger advertisers than YouTube does.
• 41:56
  They have Coca-Cola, American Eagle, fucking yadda, yadda,
• 41:59
  yadda. All these people advertise on TV
• 42:01
  and TV says all those words all the time.
• 42:04
  They have words, Special victims Unit, the law and order.
• 42:09
  Special Victims unit is literally about sexual assault
• 42:12
  the whole show. Yeah, and it's.
• 42:13
  Been going for what, 20 plus years?
• 42:16
  Yeah. It's but you can't say sexual
• 42:18
  assault on YouTube. You can't use those words.
• 42:22
  You can't say rape, but you can't even say sexual assault
• 42:25
  and you can't like it. Got so bad Sam, that I've seen
• 42:30
  normie as women using the term graped.
• 42:36
  Yeah, no, I, I've, I, I've got. Whitest kids you know sketch the
• 42:42
  greatest. Yeah, I know.
• 42:45
  I I. We live in sketch comedy world
• 42:50
  Sam, where sketch comedies are just reality.
• 42:53
  Yeah. What, what?
• 42:55
  What? When the normies use alternative
• 42:57
  language, that's a problem. He's walking his world.
• 43:01
  Comedymde.tv Extreme Piece two. Check it out.
• 43:07
  That's all I'm going to say. Speaking of Speaking of,
• 43:11
  Speaking of bizarre comedy, Max, you want to know what was a joke
• 43:17
  that we're all forced to to endure as kids?
• 43:22
  The DARE program. Now, famously.
• 43:26
  Don't do drugs, kids. Famously, one of the big clips
• 43:31
  from a couple years ago on this channel was me shitting on the
• 43:34
  DARE program and then saying how Hulk Hogan did a much better job
• 43:41
  in telling me, even though he was a hypocrite, right?
• 43:45
  He he was putting a positive spin on things like train, take
• 43:49
  your vitamins, say your prayers, work out, become a champion.
• 43:54
  And here's DARE being like, don't do drugs.
• 43:56
  Drugs are bad. People in the neighborhood might
• 43:59
  have drugs. There's drugs everywhere.
• 44:00
  Don't take them, but take them. Drugs are bad, OK?
• 44:05
  And people mocked me. People saw that clip and they
• 44:07
  were like, Max Dare's not that bad.
• 44:10
  Well Sam, I recently came across this documentary I shared with
• 44:14
  you guys and I'd love to see if you also agree that Dare is
• 44:18
  good. There, there is trash.
• 44:23
  Not only not only is there is not only is there trash, but
• 44:27
  holy shit, there is there is like some is like some deep
• 44:32
  state state conspiracy thing that like I would have that
• 44:36
  like. Literally.
• 44:37
  That had him in smarter. I would have like I would have
• 44:40
  set up there as like a pot light for the four for like the
• 44:44
  shadows of deception. So like.
• 44:47
  There's something right. It's crazy when you start to see
• 44:51
  the pieces put together of what they were trying to do 'cause
• 44:55
  the biggest complaint you hear about the DARE program, and I've
• 44:59
  been using this line a lot, Good intentions, bad execution, but
• 45:05
  that's not the truth. The truth is they had bad
• 45:08
  intentions and executed it brilliantly.
• 45:12
  Well, that, well, that's kind of the theme of tonight's entire
• 45:15
  show. What I'm saying is that like
• 45:17
  this, this kids bill I don't even think has good intentions.
• 45:21
  I think it I think it has horrible intentions.
• 45:26
  Yeah. And I'm going to, I'm going to
• 45:29
  read you that. I'm going to read you something
• 45:32
  to require certain interactive computer services to adapt and
• 45:37
  operate technology verification measures to ensure the users of
• 45:41
  platforms are not minors and other purposes and other
• 45:48
  purposes and other purposes. Well, they have to add that
• 45:53
  because it's automatic that if you're giving them their ID that
• 45:56
  they're using, they're keeping track of that data and they're
• 45:58
  selling it to somebody. Right, I would, but my point is
• 46:02
  I would have less of an issue if if that last and other purposes
• 46:08
  wasn't there. You, you want me?
• 46:10
  You want me to agree to something, you'd fucking narrow
• 46:12
  it the fuck down. Yeah, they they, they can't do
• 46:15
  that though. They can, but they won't.
• 46:17
  Part of it is allowing these companies to sell that
• 46:20
  information, so. They put.
• 46:22
  That in. Fuck that.
• 46:24
  And what it is, is that's a tell, you know what I mean?
• 46:27
  That's. A tell exactly.
• 46:30
  That's why I repeated it several times.
• 46:32
  You can sell their IDs to fucking these Chinese data
• 46:36
  companies. You just got to take them.
• 46:39
  They're actually giving the company.
• 46:41
  Why do you think Spotify so quickly is getting set up to do
• 46:44
  it? Why do you think they're they're
• 46:45
  getting a benefit out of it? Yeah.
• 46:48
  Yeah. They're going to be able to sell
• 46:51
  your fucking actual docs data to China.
• 46:55
  And then we're going to have to fucking have a massive influx of
• 47:00
  stolen identities because they're just selling it on the
• 47:06
  fucking market. Yeah, especially now it's more
• 47:11
  beneficial than ever to get a stolen Social Security or
• 47:14
  whatever. Yep.
• 47:15
  For illegals locally, Sam Market Basket is a is a grocery chain
• 47:24
  around this area. One of the ones I think it was
• 47:27
  in New Bedford, MA which I used to live in for many years.
• 47:31
  Rough city. Rough fucking city.
• 47:34
  Yep. They went through this Market
• 47:37
  Basket and found that 167 of their employees didn't have any
• 47:43
  papers at all. Holy shit.
• 47:46
  None, no fake social securities, nothing.
• 47:49
  And so those people got fired and then you see the local news
• 47:54
  being like, what will these people do?
• 47:56
  These poor people, they lost their job for no reason at all.
• 48:01
  They. Can go home.
• 48:02
  Fucking illegal and they fucking didn't even bother to get a fake
• 48:05
  Social Security. And then they're like, but now
• 48:10
  these people are vulnerable. ICE might come and pick them up
• 48:13
  and I'm like, good, go get them. You know, you know what's in,
• 48:17
  you know, you know. What's interesting to me too is,
• 48:22
  is the same party that doesn't want that, doesn't think that
• 48:27
  voter ID should be required, thinks that ID should be.
• 48:32
  Required for the fucking Internet.
• 48:34
  Yeah, yeah, right. That that's that's like.
• 48:41
  That's fucking wild. Well, that, well, that's not
• 48:44
  only is that wild, it's like, OK.
• 48:46
  Which which? Way, Congressman.
• 48:50
  Look man, any republican that votes for this shit is on my
• 48:54
  shit list and they won't get off of it.
• 48:56
  Same. Looking at you, Marsha
• 48:58
  Blackburn. Yeah, well, I mean, she's
• 49:02
  already on my shit list. Well, yeah, I honestly, I hope
• 49:06
  that like honestly, well, first. Off I hope that this.
• 49:12
  I hope that this that this thing dies in the House like that
• 49:16
  would be that would be the best. But like Trump, is our.
• 49:21
  Hurdles, Sam. If it doesn't die in the House,
• 49:24
  then they have to do the resolution bill that combines
• 49:27
  the both together and then it has to pass both.
• 49:29
  So it's not as set in stone as people think that it's going to
• 49:34
  pass. No, but both of these bills need
• 49:37
  to fucking die once each and then once again together.
• 49:43
  Oh well, if they die, if they die once each, they won't get
• 49:45
  put together. Good.
• 49:48
  Yeah, this, this is just, this is fucking this.
• 49:52
  I I try not to swear, but this, this is total fucking bullshit.
• 50:00
  It really, it really is. Again, once again, I might might
• 50:04
  have less of an issue with with all of this if they didn't also
• 50:08
  add at the end of these all these goddamn bills all the
• 50:11
  fucking time to exempt the fucking cells.
• 50:15
  What? Well, yeah, I, I.
• 50:17
  Would have. I think I would have a problem
• 50:20
  with this bill regardless. Oh me too, but I'm just saying.
• 50:22
  But then then they got the extra stuff and say fuck you.
• 50:26
  Government officials don't have to follow.
• 50:30
  Yeah. Yeah, well, that's because we're
• 50:33
  just fucking pleb serfs and we don't have any say.
• 50:37
  And, you know, we're not friends with Diddy and Epstein, so we
• 50:42
  don't really matter. Right.
• 50:46
  Well, well, that, well, that, that's the odd thing.
• 50:48
  It's like, it's like they want to stop us from like.
• 50:52
  They want to claim to care about fucking kids, but they have to
• 50:57
  be fucking dragged to the fucking ends of the goddamn
• 51:00
  earth to do anything about Diddy and Epstein.
• 51:04
  Well. Why?
• 51:05
  Why? Did you say about Epstein they
• 51:06
  killed him? Yep.
• 51:12
  To be fair, that's what everybody says, right?
• 51:14
  I actually believe he committed suicide, but everybody else
• 51:17
  tells me they killed him, so you can't say they didn't do
• 51:19
  anything. Sure.
• 51:21
  Did it take him a while? 20 plus years.
• 51:28
  I mean. I just don't like this idea.
• 51:36
  They never did anything because they arrested a bunch of the
• 51:38
  people in the videos they found. They arrested him twice.
• 51:40
  He was convicted. I he was convicted the first
• 51:46
  time, he would have been convicted the second time.
• 51:49
  But no, no one ever did anything about it though.
• 51:52
  Well, they they did things, but they have to be fucking called
• 51:55
  Gobble the fire first. Well, The thing is, is like no
• 51:59
  matter what they did, it's never good enough.
• 52:01
  Like the Epstein people, no matter what happens, they're
• 52:03
  never going to be satisfied, right?
• 52:05
  And that's why I honestly say to just, I'm not even going to
• 52:08
  fucking, I'm not going to sugarcoat.
• 52:10
  I'm not going to be like, Oh, you know, that's a valid
• 52:12
  position. I'm just like, OK, you people
• 52:14
  are. Look I I didn't care about it to
• 52:18
  begin with because I understand what went on better than other
• 52:23
  people seem to. But if this is all politics is
• 52:29
  now is just argue about the fucking Epstein files that might
• 52:32
  not even exist to the degree that you think they do.
• 52:35
  Then I'm out politics. And it's funny, a little shout
• 52:39
  out to our discord friend of the the show literally accused me
• 52:43
  then of saying I was going to censor him and I'm going to ban
• 52:47
  politics in the discord. And I pointed out that I Co host
• 52:50
  the political talk show you fucking faggot.
• 52:53
  Right. I just don't like the modern
• 52:56
  state of toxic politics. Yeah, bro, if I'm, if I'm
• 53:00
  ranting about something like that in the discord and you want
• 53:02
  to fucking chime in and tell me like, that's fine, but don't,
• 53:05
  don't, don't cry when you get fucking reamed.
• 53:14
  Oh, I have a different opinion, but I own the server, therefore
• 53:17
  I'm just a censorious asshole. I've never banned anybody.
• 53:20
  Never banned anybody. No.
• 53:24
  You're you're like hardly ever on the discord either.
• 53:31
  It's called right to offend HQ, but I'm going to ban somebody
• 53:35
  for talking about politics according to this guy.
• 53:38
  Oh. Yeah.
• 53:40
  I almost banned him for that for saying that.
• 53:43
  To be honest with you, I thought about it.
• 53:45
  That now? Now that would be that would
• 53:47
  have been funny. Yeah, I considered it like, oh,
• 53:52
  I'm such a ban whore, huh? Well then you're banned.
• 53:54
  How about that? Get your wish.
• 53:57
  Careful what you fucking ask for.
• 53:59
  That, that would've been funny. That would've been funny,
• 54:02
  actually. But I get this all the time man.
• 54:07
  I try and give people a platform and they turn on me and they
• 54:10
  want me to be a censorious asshole for it.
• 54:14
  There's several people that still despise me because they
• 54:19
  insinuated in their own mind that I was going to censor them
• 54:22
  when I never did. Well, there, well, there have
• 54:25
  been some people who, who like, there have been some people who
• 54:30
  somehow think that like, because I'm against like, you know, porn
• 54:39
  sites being required to like take people's facial ID and
• 54:42
  whatnot that I somehow like, think that kids should like be
• 54:47
  working at porn, right? They they've gotten that
• 54:51
  argument and it's like, no, I where.
• 54:55
  Nuance is dead. Your only position is you're
• 54:57
  either on my side or you're the enemy.
• 55:00
  Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
• 55:02
  I say I don't care so much about Epstein, I'm the enemy.
• 55:06
  I say I don't want fucking facial recognition and IDs for.
• 55:12
  I mean, it's not just porn sites.
• 55:14
  So I don't know why they even like if it was just porn sites,
• 55:17
  I might not even know it exists. Well, because I don't use those,
• 55:22
  so I would never, right. I wouldn't even engage with the
• 55:27
  conversation. I think for the most part, but
• 55:30
  it's not porn sites, It's video games, it's movies, it's music,
• 55:34
  it's everything. Think of the kids.
• 55:37
  Yeah, you don't think they're going to require ID for looking
• 55:41
  at Christian based websites with Bible quotes on it?
• 55:43
  You're fucking retarded. Facts.
• 55:46
  Yes, they're going to start asking for ID for your Christian
• 55:49
  sites. They're going to start asking
• 55:51
  for ID for your conspiracy theories sites, all that shit.
• 55:55
  So every. Everything.
• 55:57
  Everything that they consider the wrong thing.
• 55:59
  You're going to need an ID if you want to listen to Alex
• 56:01
  Jones. It it's good.
• 56:03
  It's it's. You got a license for that that
• 56:05
  that their podcast? It's going to be a it's going to
• 56:10
  be a slippery slope for sure. Well, you know, if they, if
• 56:15
  they, if they, if they require that.
• 56:17
  I mean, look, 20, you know, 20 fucking years is a long, you
• 56:24
  know, time to podcast. But if they're if they're going
• 56:28
  to, you know, send to me at if they're going to send to me
• 56:32
  before then so be it. So I don't.
• 56:38
  I'll I'll say this Sam, I would absolutely go pirate.
• 56:44
  Yeah. I will go full on Renegade
• 56:47
  broadcast at that point. Yep.
• 56:52
  Yeah, same here. I've been fighting censorship
• 56:56
  for so long, I know how to do it.
• 56:59
  We get a nice cast stream. Shut up.
• 57:01
  Real nice and easy. Sam might not be as pretty, but
• 57:05
  we could still broadcast. You ain't going to shut us down.
• 57:10
  I don't know why the point. Like, I do think you're right
• 57:12
  that they do want to shut down a lot of political podcasts, but I
• 57:15
  think a lot of right wingers will do what I'm saying and just
• 57:17
  go pirate. Yeah.
• 57:21
  It's so easy now. Yeah, Yeah, it is.
• 57:25
  But but, but we but we shouldn't have, you know, we shouldn't
• 57:29
  even have to have this conversation.
• 57:31
  That's kind of that's kind of my point.
• 57:34
  This is the conversation that happens when you all get
• 57:38
  autistic about a fucking pedophile and and say that you
• 57:42
  don't like the president anymore.
• 57:44
  Well now he has no political fucking sway to stop this.
• 57:47
  So good. Good.
• 57:47
  Good luck, Epstein Bros. Yeah.
• 57:52
  I blame Epstein Bros for. All.
• 57:55
  Anything bad in politics going forward?
• 57:58
  As long as they suck all the oxygen out of the room for every
• 58:02
  other topic, it is their fault when things go bad.
• 58:07
  Yeah, I actually, and and for the record, like I actually
• 58:12
  talked with Luke about this the other day, a friend of show and
• 58:16
  he and he he agrees. He agrees with me.
• 58:21
  They've gotten more, they've gotten more ridiculous calls on
• 58:25
  Capitol Hill about Epstein that they could be, you know,
• 58:32
  utilizing towards like other legislation.
• 58:35
  And we're just, and we're just, yeah, all the other topics don't
• 58:39
  matter. All the wins that we're getting
• 58:41
  don't matter. You know, we literally killed
• 58:45
  woke and everybody forgot it existed 5 seconds later.
• 58:49
  But that's typical of the right. The right is a bunch of chickens
• 58:52
  with their heads cut off fighting each other, which is
• 58:54
  why I'm more of an independent. Yeah, Well, that in that's,
• 59:00
  that's why they've kind of, that's why they've kind of lost
• 59:03
  me. You know, Rush, I'll tell you
• 59:13
  what, Rush Limbaugh wouldn't be, wouldn't be supporting,
• 59:18
  supporting this. Rush would be pointing out to
• 59:23
  the Epstein Bros that all the winds that were chalking up and
• 59:27
  probably telling them not to give up, but just to calm down.
• 59:31
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 59:33
  Like I that's what I'm saying, don't give up.
• 59:36
  But bro, these children you're claiming are harmed are all in
• 59:41
  their 30s now. I don't think it's a matter of
• 59:46
  Oh my God right this second. We need to right this wrong.
• 59:50
  I don't. The the other the other thing is
• 59:54
  like. Children being trafficked and
• 59:56
  molested and raped right fucking now that nobody cares about.
• 1:00:02
  In in your in your local area too.
• 1:00:07
  Not just by rich guys, but by fucking poor immigrants too.
• 1:00:13
  Yep. And so, yeah, yeah, there are
• 1:00:17
  kids that are in danger right now that nobody seems to give a
• 1:00:19
  flying fuck about. But these, these grown women,
• 1:00:25
  some of whom, by the way, if you listen to them, were very happy
• 1:00:29
  with their job on the island. I don't know if you knew that
• 1:00:34
  not everybody, not every one of those girls that worked on the
• 1:00:37
  island is like, Oh my God, it was the worst thing ever.
• 1:00:39
  A lot of them defended. So what does that?
• 1:00:43
  Say. Yeah, it says something.
• 1:00:48
  It says that it's a trickier fucking subject that everybody
• 1:00:50
  thinks is what it says. Well, well, again, nuance is
• 1:00:56
  dead, right? So from now on, when anybody
• 1:01:00
  talks about Jeffrey Epstein, I'm going to ask what they're doing
• 1:01:03
  about pedophiles who are abusing children right now.
• 1:01:05
  And if the answer is nothing, then shut the fuck up.
• 1:01:10
  Based. So we started to talk.
• 1:01:17
  We kind of started to talk about DARE and how, jeez, I mean, I so
• 1:01:26
  the fact that like that DARE was encouraging kids to do drugs,
• 1:01:32
  that did not surprise me one bit.
• 1:01:35
  And turn in their parents. Yeah, that that those two
• 1:01:38
  things, like it should've been shocking, but I was actually
• 1:01:42
  like, that checks out. What did surprise me, what I did
• 1:01:47
  not see coming, was intelligence gathering internationally for
• 1:01:57
  500 Alex. Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  And of course, like that documentary doesn't even get
• 1:02:04
  into the reasons behind it all, because that gets into
• 1:02:08
  conspiracy territory. But I can fill in those blanks.
• 1:02:11
  But I want to start at the beginning because you're you're
• 1:02:16
  somebody that's watched the documentary, obviously.
• 1:02:18
  But if somebody hasn't, first of all, it's by Chapple CHUPPL on
• 1:02:24
  YouTube and it's about the DARE program and and what you weren't
• 1:02:27
  told about it. And the first thing he
• 1:02:30
  discovers. And so going with what you said
• 1:02:33
  there was that they knew before they instituted the DARE program
• 1:02:38
  conclusively that it not only didn't stop kids from getting on
• 1:02:42
  drugs, but more kids who took part in the program got on
• 1:02:46
  drugs. They knew that right away,
• 1:02:49
  without question. That alone blows up the good
• 1:02:55
  intentions, but bad execution idea that everybody has in their
• 1:02:59
  head about DARE. No, they didn't have good
• 1:03:02
  intentions. They had awful intentions.
• 1:03:05
  Getting kids on on drugs was a net benefit for them, but more
• 1:03:10
  importantly, getting kids in schools as informants, getting
• 1:03:15
  cops in schools as informants, and of course using the kids to
• 1:03:18
  inform on their own parents. Those were primary goals, but a
• 1:03:22
  secondary goal was at the same time that the rise of DARE was
• 1:03:27
  also the rise of for profit prisons.
• 1:03:29
  Sam. Yep.
• 1:03:32
  So if you're a millennial and even the older Zoomers, they
• 1:03:37
  stopped DARE for Zoomers at some point, just know the whole point
• 1:03:43
  of the DARE program was to get you on drugs and have you in
• 1:03:47
  jail, especially if you're poor. And Sam, when they say poor, who
• 1:03:51
  do you think that's going to impact the most as a community
• 1:03:54
  in our fucking country? Minorities.
• 1:03:57
  Minorities. Minorities and who happens to be
• 1:04:00
  the majority population in prison?
• 1:04:02
  Oh wait, it's black people and it's from the 90s and it's
• 1:04:07
  amazing that that happened, huh? Well.
• 1:04:11
  You mean Joe Biden's 94 crime bill?
• 1:04:13
  What? Yeah, Joe Biden's 94 crime bill
• 1:04:16
  was riding the dare wave. Well, you, you want to know
• 1:04:19
  what? You want to know something else.
• 1:04:22
  And I, I realized that this is entirely anecdotal, but I went
• 1:04:27
  to a fairly, you know, middle class, like upper middle class
• 1:04:33
  high school. And a lot of my, a lot of my
• 1:04:38
  peers who went through the DARE program, they never did illegal
• 1:04:43
  drugs, but a lot of them got hooked on a prescription
• 1:04:47
  painkillers. And so they've had painful
• 1:04:52
  problems. They're never talk on that.
• 1:04:57
  Alcohol isn't either, right? Most of them know the the
• 1:05:05
  officer the officer in our program did but.
• 1:05:09
  It's not part of the curriculum to draw.
• 1:05:11
  On that alcohol, though, yeah, no, it, it, it wasn't the, the,
• 1:05:15
  the, the DARE officer that I had.
• 1:05:18
  It was actually a neighbor of mine.
• 1:05:20
  And after he retired from the Police Department, he basically
• 1:05:25
  said that DARE was a joke. Well, and that's The thing is
• 1:05:28
  most of the DARE officers didn't even know what the point of the
• 1:05:31
  program was. He thought, well, he, he said he
• 1:05:35
  thought it was weird that like that it was geared towards 10
• 1:05:39
  year olds, but he also. Get them early.
• 1:05:44
  Yep. So.
• 1:05:47
  Yeah, but he wouldn't have had an idea about the for profit
• 1:05:50
  prison stuff. And he also wouldn't have
• 1:05:53
  probably known because they hid the research that it that dared
• 1:05:57
  not only didn't work, but it was a negative.
• 1:05:59
  He wouldn't have known. They wouldn't have told him
• 1:06:01
  that, right. And so, but he can as a logical
• 1:06:04
  thinking person who's running the curriculum, see some serious
• 1:06:08
  problems with it. And that's that's the case for a
• 1:06:10
  lot of their officers after they got through with the program.
• 1:06:13
  You're right. Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  They all, they all kind of start to say, wait a minute, this
• 1:06:18
  doesn't make sense and this isn't the best way I would have
• 1:06:21
  done it and all that shit. And of course they thought, oh,
• 1:06:27
  well, that just means that the curriculum's outdated.
• 1:06:29
  We got to change it. But not, not really.
• 1:06:33
  Because when they tried to do that, as you might have seen in
• 1:06:35
  that documentary, when they tried to change the curriculum,
• 1:06:38
  all the originators of it disappeared.
• 1:06:41
  Like fucking they're just all gone.
• 1:06:44
  Yeah. Half of the people on the board
• 1:06:48
  own for profit prisons or some. They have some type of fight.
• 1:06:52
  Disney. There's a Disney heiress on
• 1:06:55
  there. They're all millionaires and
• 1:06:57
  billionaires, every last one of them.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah, yeah, they can. They can afford to put their
• 1:07:03
  kids into into rehab. So also knowing that like a lot
• 1:07:11
  of them are like the Disney heiresses probably were on like
• 1:07:17
  drugs themselves of some kind. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:22
  The the the there were reports in the late 90s of like a whole
• 1:07:26
  bunch of DARE officials getting arrested for drugs, ironically
• 1:07:30
  enough. Yeah, I, I remember like one of
• 1:07:37
  the, I remember like one of the weirdest things that I found out
• 1:07:41
  was that like was that you could get high from like huffing
• 1:07:45
  pains. Had I not, had I not gone
• 1:07:50
  through dare, I might not know that.
• 1:07:54
  Yeah, yeah, I had, I had a friend he got, he was like the
• 1:07:59
  guy that'll do anything. And he, he heard about huffing
• 1:08:04
  Freon out of air conditioners from DARE and he thought he did
• 1:08:07
  that and it fucked his brain. I'm not even joking.
• 1:08:09
  It fucked his brain. He heard about it in DARE and it
• 1:08:14
  fucked his brain up for the rest of his life.
• 1:08:16
  I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at I'm not laughing at the fact
• 1:08:20
  that your friend got fucked up. That's not funny.
• 1:08:23
  What is what is funny though, is like in each of our cases, we we
• 1:08:28
  both we all know someone who like who did who did some type
• 1:08:35
  of drug because they found out about from there, but probably
• 1:08:40
  wouldn't have found out about otherwise.
• 1:08:44
  Oh yeah, huff and glue, all that kind of shit that kids do at
• 1:08:48
  school to try and get high and all the all of it got learned in
• 1:08:52
  the DARE program, at least in my experience.
• 1:08:55
  Like, yeah, DARE gave us a great education about drugs and where
• 1:08:59
  to find them. I, I remember, I remember my mom
• 1:09:03
  went through, I remember my, my mom went through the Derrick
• 1:09:07
  curriculum once and she said at one point because she was
• 1:09:13
  reading about, about marijuana and she said the way they're
• 1:09:18
  describing marijuana is actually more akin to LSD.
• 1:09:24
  Correct. Yeah.
• 1:09:25
  And that's, that's a big thing of why it was so ineffective is
• 1:09:30
  they just lied about marijuana, the most common drug on the
• 1:09:34
  earth that most kids, at least half of the kids that go through
• 1:09:37
  the program are going to experiment with in their life.
• 1:09:40
  So if you lie to them about it, they're going to find out.
• 1:09:43
  Well, they, they, they made it seem like you would have like a
• 1:09:46
  trip. Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  And that you and that your brain would melt if you if you smoked
• 1:09:50
  Mary Jane. Correct.
• 1:09:54
  And that. And but then then later on in
• 1:09:57
  life, somebody hands you a joint, you take a toke and none
• 1:10:00
  of that fucking goes down and you're like, man, this is pretty
• 1:10:02
  nice. Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  So many people in my generation, that's their problem with DARE.
• 1:10:07
  Yeah. That they know they were lied to
• 1:10:10
  on a fundamental level, but what they don't understand, they
• 1:10:14
  think it's the good intentions, bad execution thing too.
• 1:10:17
  No it's not. They meant for you to get on
• 1:10:19
  drugs. They wanted you to see them as
• 1:10:21
  hypocrites. They wanted you on drugs.
• 1:10:22
  They wanted you in prison because then they can get cheap
• 1:10:25
  labor for the state. The the first time I smoked weed
• 1:10:31
  Max I it was like I I don't have a lot of spasticity from
• 1:10:37
  cerebral ballsy. Not not as bad as some others,
• 1:10:40
  but like honestly it for like one of the few times in my life
• 1:10:45
  it felt like that shit went away for for a bit.
• 1:10:50
  Yeah, it's like, so I bet you a lot of people would have been
• 1:10:54
  like, Oh no, Sam, you should never try that because of the
• 1:10:57
  cerebral palsy, right? But like, no, there's there's
• 1:11:00
  there's no evidence that it would like or when some like
• 1:11:04
  even somebody way worse off than you with it, it wouldn't it
• 1:11:08
  would just get them high and maybe hungry.
• 1:11:12
  Yeah. You know, that's about it.
• 1:11:14
  That's, you know, like, what else do you get at it?
• 1:11:17
  This is the thing they'd be like That DARE program would be like.
• 1:11:21
  If you smoke one puff of the Mary Jane, you're going to rob
• 1:11:24
  convenience stores and become an axe murderer.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah, no, that, that's, that might as well happen.
• 1:11:31
  What, what, what? What was like, you're going to
• 1:11:34
  trip balls and commit like a shooting spree or something like
• 1:11:40
  like. Oh, my favorite was they don't
• 1:11:42
  they all tell the same story. And that's because there's a
• 1:11:46
  real story that you can look into.
• 1:11:48
  But I'm not going to give you what the real story is until I
• 1:11:50
  tell you this. The dare story.
• 1:11:52
  OK, The dare story is there's this kid, he's like a teenager
• 1:11:58
  and he he smokes pot and he gets so high that he thinks he can
• 1:12:02
  fly and jumps off a building. Did you know that story is not
• 1:12:06
  true, but there is a true story? You mean you can't fly?
• 1:12:10
  No, no, they still can't fly. However, he was on PCP, not
• 1:12:16
  marijuana. Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  PCP. Make you think a bunch of shit
• 1:12:22
  man. So the drug that that makes him
• 1:12:23
  walk. Oh, so the drug that schmo keeps
• 1:12:31
  dosing me with that? Yeah, the drug that big Lurch
• 1:12:34
  took one time and ended up cannibalizing a woman.
• 1:12:37
  Yeah, PCP is a hell of a drug. And the kid that took the PCP
• 1:12:42
  and jumped off of a New York skyscraper?
• 1:12:46
  That's true, that happened. But again, he was on Angel Dust,
• 1:12:51
  not marijuana. He might have been on marijuana
• 1:12:53
  too. But I have never Sam smoked pot.
• 1:13:00
  I've smoked a lot of pot. I've smoked some of the best
• 1:13:02
  plot in the fucking world and thought I could fly.
• 1:13:06
  It's never happened. Not once.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah, but like also like that's the other thing though.
• 1:13:13
  Like marijuana doesn't impair your judgement that much that
• 1:13:17
  you become a dumbass and thing that you can like just jump off
• 1:13:20
  a off a rooftop either. Yeah, but PCP.
• 1:13:25
  Will be sleepy. Oh yeah.
• 1:13:27
  Oh yeah. Well, well, PCP will probably.
• 1:13:31
  Yeah, PCP will make you do all kinds of wild shit, even LSD to
• 1:13:35
  some degree if you have a bad trip or whatever, but PCP tends
• 1:13:40
  to make people a little more unhinged regardless.
• 1:13:46
  It wasn't marijuana. You don't smoke one hit of
• 1:13:48
  marijuana and jump off a fucking building.
• 1:13:50
  That's not what happens. That's, that's insane.
• 1:13:53
  It's like. Them you mean marijuana is not a
• 1:13:55
  gateway drug. No, no, but no.
• 1:14:01
  But more the more I would argue that that they made a gateway
• 1:14:05
  drug. Yeah, it is a gateway drug.
• 1:14:08
  But Sam's right, it's a gateway drug because it's the outlaw
• 1:14:13
  effect. You know what the outlaw effect
• 1:14:15
  is? Yep.
• 1:14:17
  So for the audience, if somebody is a a non criminal type person
• 1:14:24
  and then you outlaw a normal behavior that they do, they
• 1:14:29
  don't see the law as just, they see the law as wrong and so SUS.
• 1:14:36
  A good portion of those people will just disobey what they
• 1:14:39
  consider to be a bad law. Yeah.
• 1:14:45
  So they're coming in and they're like, OK, marijuana makes me an
• 1:14:50
  outlaw. I'm already an outlaw just for
• 1:14:54
  possessing and smoking marijuana.
• 1:14:56
  Therefore, what's the difference to move up the chain to cocaine
• 1:14:59
  or to whatever else? And those same people, I'm sure
• 1:15:03
  would be the people today that are trying to pass off, that
• 1:15:07
  come coming to the country illegally doesn't make you a
• 1:15:10
  criminal immediately. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:15:13
  But like they but you're a criminal for smoking pot.
• 1:15:16
  And, and The thing is, is that people, they know that it's
• 1:15:19
  like, Oh, well, I broke that law and it wasn't so bad and nothing
• 1:15:24
  really came of it. And that's why you'll get
• 1:15:27
  people. It is that does make marijuana a
• 1:15:29
  gateway drug because you can get, when it's illegal, you can
• 1:15:32
  only get it from drug dealers. So you have to know people in
• 1:15:36
  that scene and you're probably going to end up knowing people
• 1:15:40
  that do other drugs too and being offered the opportunity to
• 1:15:43
  do them. So marijuana is a gateway drug
• 1:15:47
  until it's legalized? Facts.
• 1:15:52
  Which which they which they should just do federally at this
• 1:15:56
  point. Agreed.
• 1:15:59
  The legal marijuana in Massachusetts, it's just been a
• 1:16:02
  net, net positive. And it really has like, oh, some
• 1:16:08
  people will complain. Ah, you smell pot here and
• 1:16:10
  there. Yeah, so look at, look at the
• 1:16:15
  fuck. There's no pot than Bo.
• 1:16:17
  Look at the tax. Look at the tax income alone.
• 1:16:21
  Yeah. My state has brought in the most
• 1:16:25
  tax income out of any state for marijuana.
• 1:16:29
  Yeah. And we have the lowest tax.
• 1:16:32
  Isn't that weird? Yeah, your state, your state did
• 1:16:38
  it better than Colorado did. So one thing we didn't tax to
• 1:16:43
  death man. It's the one thing we put low
• 1:16:45
  taxes on. Taxachusetts is called that for
• 1:16:50
  a reason. But for some reason the
• 1:16:52
  marijuana tax is like 1/3 of every other States and we make
• 1:16:56
  way more money off of it. You know why?
• 1:16:59
  Because it's cheaper. People buy more of it.
• 1:17:06
  Yeah. That's it, you know, lower tax,
• 1:17:09
  yes, but I was, I was talking, I think I was talking to you about
• 1:17:14
  it. You had mentioned it was
• 1:17:16
  something like $60.00 an eighth in Colorado.
• 1:17:19
  It was something like $60.00 an eighth or $80.00 an eighth,
• 1:17:23
  Chibi was saying in California. Yeah, it's like wicked expensive
• 1:17:27
  out West. Do you want to know how much an
• 1:17:29
  eighth is in Massachusetts right now, Sam?
• 1:17:31
  The average? Like $10 or something like that.
• 1:17:34
  Have I had to guess? 8-8 dollars is the average the
• 1:17:42
  average the average. The average Oz price here is a
• 1:17:45
  is between 40 and 60. And we have.
• 1:17:51
  We have low taxes, that helps. So yeah, they brought in a lot
• 1:17:55
  of fucking money that way. Well also though like I imagine
• 1:17:59
  see like Colorado has, Colorado has also made like the whole
• 1:18:05
  marijuana experience like a super bougie experience now too,
• 1:18:10
  which I fucking like. True.
• 1:18:13
  Hey. So we have some of those That's
• 1:18:18
  that I think that's you're right is that most pot shops go for
• 1:18:21
  that bougie shit. The ones out here, I'll I'll
• 1:18:25
  take pictures sometimes. Literally the place I go to put
• 1:18:29
  out a giant fucking speaker PA system all summer and they play
• 1:18:33
  like uncensored hip hop. Like what the N words and
• 1:18:38
  everything Sam. Yeah.
• 1:18:40
  Auntie Bougie. Yeah, I, I, I wish, I, I wish I
• 1:18:44
  would have taken a few photos while I was in Colorado, but but
• 1:18:49
  like going to buy, going to buy marijuana in Colorado illegally
• 1:18:54
  is like, going to buy like a car day watch.
• 1:18:58
  It's like going, it's like going to a fucking jewelry jewelry
• 1:19:02
  store or. Yeah, we have that.
• 1:19:05
  We have that here too. But but what happened is the
• 1:19:09
  place that I used to frequent targeted millennials with, it's
• 1:19:13
  a more bar like atmosphere. They got music they were looking
• 1:19:18
  for, not the upscale bougie shit like you're talking about.
• 1:19:21
  It's a little darker, you know what I mean?
• 1:19:24
  It has like it has a club vibe and they outsold all the boomer
• 1:19:30
  bougie shops so now half the shops in town are geared towards
• 1:19:35
  millennials and zoomers and all the bougie shops are
• 1:19:38
  overcharging boomers of. Course.
• 1:19:44
  So if I go down to my shop and I say I want an ounce of whole
• 1:19:48
  flour, high THC, yeah, you're talking like 60-70 bucks.
• 1:19:54
  If I go to the boomers bougie place you're talking 180 bucks.
• 1:20:01
  For the same. Shit, essentially, but hey, it
• 1:20:05
  feels like it feels like one of those micro brew bars though, so
• 1:20:09
  it must be good, right? Right.
• 1:20:14
  Totally. But instead the the Millennial
• 1:20:18
  place is basically selling like fucking Pabst Blue Ribbon.
• 1:20:23
  Yeah, no, same. Same with like.
• 1:20:25
  Same with the cigar shop in town.
• 1:20:32
  I wasn't. I'm angered, Sam, by a
• 1:20:34
  Massachusetts law that's coming. They're trying to pass it so
• 1:20:39
  that pot shops can have a smoking section.
• 1:20:42
  I am opposed to that. And the reason is is because
• 1:20:45
  they banned cigar stores from having a smoking section.
• 1:20:50
  That is gay. That is gay.
• 1:20:53
  Now, I got a cigar bar that I got, you know, avip to in Rhode
• 1:20:59
  Island the that some of us go to.
• 1:21:03
  Shout out to Rhodey, shout out to Nick the Weird Jew and all
• 1:21:06
  them guys down at the fucking cigar bar.
• 1:21:09
  But yeah, like Massachusetts outlawed smoking any, any
• 1:21:16
  establishment and now they want to make an exemption
• 1:21:18
  specifically for pot shops and I just don't, I don't approve.
• 1:21:23
  I want it for cigar stores as well.
• 1:21:25
  Yep. Yeah.
• 1:21:28
  Because, man, I would like to not have to travel halfway
• 1:21:30
  through Rhode Island to go to a good cigar bar.
• 1:21:34
  Shout out to that place, though, if you're ever in.
• 1:21:36
  There's only one cigar bar, so everybody in Rhode Island that
• 1:21:38
  knows it would know it. You might see me.
• 1:21:45
  Probably not. I'm not there all the time, but
• 1:21:47
  I go occasionally. Yeah, the yeah, the tall the
• 1:21:50
  tall dude. So by the way, this for the for
• 1:21:55
  those you being this is the documentary here at the top.
• 1:22:01
  Dare the real reason cops told you about drugs?
• 1:22:08
  Yeah, I highly recommend watching it because he he lays
• 1:22:11
  out a lot more evidence and things that we then we have
• 1:22:14
  discussed because we're just discussing, you know the overall
• 1:22:17
  premise. But if you want to see like
• 1:22:19
  where the dots get connected, he makes a lot of those.
• 1:22:22
  I'm the one connecting the dots for the for profit prisons and
• 1:22:26
  the targeting the black population, Sam.
• 1:22:28
  But I stand by that. I believe, because I started to
• 1:22:31
  watch this documentary like a while ago, Dare was a bigger
• 1:22:36
  failure than most people realized, and I believe that
• 1:22:40
  they do cover that in this one, but I'm not.
• 1:22:44
  Yeah. So yeah, essentially the DARE
• 1:22:47
  program was a backdoor way to get black people back into
• 1:22:52
  slavery. That and look, man, I know, I
• 1:22:54
  know a lot of people are going to be like, Max, you're spewing
• 1:22:57
  black conspiracy theories again. Well, I'm from the, I'm, I'm
• 1:23:03
  from a very black community. I've had black friends my whole
• 1:23:06
  life. And guess what?
• 1:23:07
  Black conspiracy theories, Some of them aren't fucking bullshit,
• 1:23:12
  and that's one of them. Yeah, I know.
• 1:23:17
  SAY is saying that. The is saying that the CIA was
• 1:23:20
  like pushing crack into the ghettos.
• 1:23:22
  Yeah, literally at the same time as this.
• 1:23:24
  Isn't that coincidental that they put in the DARE program
• 1:23:29
  that was supposed to get black people in jail and also gave
• 1:23:32
  them crack? Hmm.
• 1:23:36
  Hmm. Really makes you think.
• 1:23:37
  Yeah, no, like, this shit's real.
• 1:23:39
  And. And I get it, a lot of people
• 1:23:42
  are sick here in the black perspective on things, the black
• 1:23:45
  fatigue or whatever. But the, the, the, The thing is
• 1:23:48
  is like, yeah, there's some wild black conspiracies, just like
• 1:23:52
  there's some wild Q and on conspiracies.
• 1:23:54
  But a lot of the, the black communities, conspiracies like
• 1:23:57
  that are rooted in something that they know to be somewhat
• 1:24:00
  true, even if they don't have proof.
• 1:24:01
  And this is one of those things. They know the government was
• 1:24:05
  trying to lock up as many black men as it could through the
• 1:24:08
  Eighties, 90s and 2000s. They ain't stupid, right?
• 1:24:13
  They know that the intention was to get as many of them in jail
• 1:24:15
  as possible. And it was.
• 1:24:19
  Oh yeah. And you know, you could sit
• 1:24:23
  there and say, no, no, that's not what it was.
• 1:24:25
  Yes, it was. If you're targeting poor people
• 1:24:27
  with this, it's going to disproportionately affect black
• 1:24:30
  people in the ghetto, Hispanic people in the, and yet white
• 1:24:32
  poor people too. And look at the prison
• 1:24:35
  population. That's exactly who's in there
• 1:24:39
  for drugs. It's young black men, young
• 1:24:44
  Hispanic men and young white men in jail for drugs at an alarming
• 1:24:48
  rate. Something to in the black
• 1:24:51
  community. It's something like 20 to 30% of
• 1:24:53
  black men will be incarcerated. Yeah, I mean, not in prison for
• 1:24:57
  drugs. You, you mentioned, you
• 1:25:06
  mentioned, you know, poor white men too.
• 1:25:11
  I mean, I was in the Appalachians.
• 1:25:13
  There are a lot of, you know, oh.
• 1:25:15
  Yeah, they got hit hard by the prescription drugs and meth down
• 1:25:20
  there. Yeah.
• 1:25:22
  And they're poor, Yeah. And yeah, yeah, they, they, the
• 1:25:25
  As far as politicians are concerned, poor Appalachians and
• 1:25:28
  poor black people in the ghetto are the same thing.
• 1:25:30
  Well, Max, that's we've heard the term that's that's just fly
• 1:25:34
  over country. They don't.
• 1:25:36
  Yeah, Max. Which Which, for the the
• 1:25:41
  uninitiated, yes, fly over country, is the part of America
• 1:25:45
  that the elite fly over from New York to California and back
• 1:25:51
  again. When pretty sure fly over
• 1:25:56
  country is what got Trump the elections.
• 1:25:59
  And, and it's funny because the only reason me and Mortheus
• 1:26:02
  aren't technically in fly over country is because we're a
• 1:26:04
  little bit to the east of New York, so they don't fly over us.
• 1:26:07
  Facts. But they consider our areas the
• 1:26:10
  same, like, like, if you listen to New Yorkers, upstate New York
• 1:26:13
  might as well be rural Alabama. Pretty much.
• 1:26:17
  Yeah. And they think, they think out
• 1:26:20
  here is like the Wild West, right?
• 1:26:21
  Like they think this place is fucking crazy nice and New
• 1:26:24
  England. Yeah, as soon as people hear
• 1:26:28
  that I'm from New York, they're like, what part of the city are
• 1:26:30
  you from? I'm from Massachusetts.
• 1:26:33
  You're from Boston? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:36
  Oh yeah, I'm from Boston. I'm from about 7 hours north of
• 1:26:40
  fucking New York City. Fuckers.
• 1:26:42
  There's a whole motherfucking state above that fucking piece
• 1:26:44
  of shit shit whole city. Well it's crazy because if I'm
• 1:26:48
  from a capital city of a fucking state, I'm literally right next
• 1:26:53
  to Providence, RI. I'm nowhere near Boston.
• 1:26:58
  Wait, which? Which there was this podcast
• 1:27:04
  called Crime Town which did an entire like it was one of those
• 1:27:10
  audio true crime podcast documentaries.
• 1:27:15
  They didn't entire document on Buddy Cianzi to make that, to
• 1:27:19
  make him look bad. And then I actually looked at
• 1:27:21
  Buddy CNC and I'm like, this guy was kind of best.
• 1:27:25
  I I used to wear a free buddy T-shirt when he was in jail for
• 1:27:30
  years. Hashtag free buddy buddy buddy.
• 1:27:35
  CNC did great things for Providence.
• 1:27:38
  May he rest in peace. I don't care if he worked with
• 1:27:40
  the mob. He fucking the mob did a good
• 1:27:42
  job. They clean the fucking town up.
• 1:27:44
  What do you want? Yeah.
• 1:27:49
  It's like dude like he could get the mob to help clean the town
• 1:27:54
  up rather than shit it up. That's fucking a miracle.
• 1:28:02
  Yeah, I'm not saying that the mob was good, but when they're.
• 1:28:05
  I am. Well, I, well, I was going to
• 1:28:10
  say I'm not saying that the mafia is is good, but when
• 1:28:13
  they're more, but when they're more on more than the cops in
• 1:28:16
  some respect, then yeah. Now out here though, out here
• 1:28:21
  though, like legitimately, oftentimes the mob is the cops,
• 1:28:25
  or at least it was when I was younger in Boston.
• 1:28:28
  Look, dude, if if if you had to go to the cops, that meant you
• 1:28:32
  were going above Uncle Jimmy's head.
• 1:28:35
  And if you go above Uncle Jimmy's head, you'd be lucky to
• 1:28:37
  keep your own. He was the police chief.
• 1:28:42
  Well. People would say but, but Sam
• 1:28:44
  the mob would probably beat you, would probably beat you up even
• 1:28:48
  though you're already crippled. No, no buddy would.
• 1:28:53
  Jimmy would probably Jimmy would probably be protecting my ass in
• 1:28:57
  this. I don't know how Irish are you?
• 1:29:00
  Only half. Mother or father?
• 1:29:06
  Father. OK, maybe.
• 1:29:09
  Yeah, maybe you'd be all right. You do look Irish enough except
• 1:29:13
  for the eyes. Well, I'm also, I'm also, I'm
• 1:29:19
  also telling so I, I could get, I could get the New York
• 1:29:22
  families to, you know, protect, protect, protect.
• 1:29:29
  But yeah, like, if somebody's selling drugs to kids in these
• 1:29:35
  areas, oftentimes the cops don't even, like, by the time the cops
• 1:29:38
  even know about it, they can't do nothing.
• 1:29:42
  But Uncle Jimmy doesn't follow rules like that.
• 1:29:45
  By the way, Uncle Jimmy, for those that don't know, I call
• 1:29:48
  Whitey Bulger Uncle Jimmy. And I'm not going to apologize
• 1:29:53
  for that because that's how I was raised.
• 1:29:55
  And I met him at his barbershop and was told to address him
• 1:29:59
  respectfully, and I still will. And may he rest in peace.
• 1:30:03
  He never wronged me. He never wronged my family.
• 1:30:06
  And as far as I'm aware, all the people he killed, there was some
• 1:30:09
  tort of justification for it. Yeah, and that movie with Johnny
• 1:30:17
  Depp is bullshit because Uncle Jimmy never swore.
• 1:30:21
  Now I. Know.
• 1:30:23
  He killed people, but he didn't swear Sam.
• 1:30:26
  I don't disagree with any. I don't disagree with anything
• 1:30:29
  that you're saying that you're saying by, by the way, that's.
• 1:30:35
  Right, Well look, sometimes there's an official government
• 1:30:39
  to take care of your problems and sometimes you're the Irish
• 1:30:43
  population that gets called potato N words and have to take
• 1:30:47
  care of yourself. And look, I and like, I know, I
• 1:30:52
  know Michael Franzese is a bit of a grifter.
• 1:30:55
  We've established that. But he is right at one thing,
• 1:30:59
  which is that the Mafia has more honor and integrity than the
• 1:31:03
  politicians in Washington, DC. That is a true fucking
• 1:31:08
  statement. Yeah, I mean, it's not
• 1:31:11
  universal, but more true than not.
• 1:31:16
  We this country would be much better, would be much better run
• 1:31:19
  under John Gotti than under Obama.
• 1:31:24
  Jeez, you know you're siding too much with your Italian side
• 1:31:27
  here, Sam. From my comfort level.
• 1:31:29
  Or for or for or Whitey Morphy. Has to prove.
• 1:31:34
  Yeah, no, no, no, see, See, the Italian Mafia is a little
• 1:31:38
  different, Sam. They do shit that I don't
• 1:31:41
  approve of. Uncle Jimmy.
• 1:31:46
  Uncle Jimmy killed some people, in some cases because it's
• 1:31:51
  self-defense, OK. And in a lot of cases, it's
• 1:31:54
  because they were dealing drugs to kids over and over and over
• 1:31:58
  again. Yeah, it's.
• 1:32:00
  A little different than the Italian mafias fucking they'd be
• 1:32:03
  killing people all the time in the 70s, eighties, 90s, so.
• 1:32:07
  Oh yeah. I'd much rather have the
• 1:32:10
  restraint of an Uncle Jimmy and people like he killed like 12
• 1:32:13
  people. Well.
• 1:32:15
  We don't know. We don't know.
• 1:32:17
  We're not sure. Yeah, you know, probably 3.
• 1:32:21
  Bodies. So that's really hard to fucking
• 1:32:23
  make a case for. And two of the three were
• 1:32:26
  self-defense and then the third one was thrown out of court.
• 1:32:31
  He didn't go to jail for killing nobody.
• 1:32:33
  If you didn't know, he went to jail for extortion.
• 1:32:39
  That. That's usually how you got them.
• 1:32:41
  Yeah. Abortion, tax evasion, and then,
• 1:32:44
  you know, running from the law for 20 years.
• 1:32:52
  So I mean, technically he's not convicted to killing anybody.
• 1:32:58
  So, you know, Whitey Bulger was innocent, is what I'm saying.
• 1:33:06
  Innocent man did nothing. Wrong.
• 1:33:08
  True. Hero to his.
• 1:33:11
  That that man was a St. You know who's a hero to his
• 1:33:16
  community that doesn't get enough love?
• 1:33:18
  Sam. I've never been more activated
• 1:33:22
  about the idea that I need those fucking Malcolm X-Files.
• 1:33:28
  Facts. Then motherfuckers want to talk
• 1:33:30
  about Epstein file. Look man, that even meant a 30
• 1:33:33
  year where you can get everything.
• 1:33:35
  They won't give you everything. It's they literally can't
• 1:33:37
  because of the 30 year rule. Malcolm X has been 30 years and
• 1:33:41
  I want to know what reasoning those two young St. hoodlums had
• 1:33:46
  to shoot him in a church giving a sermon.
• 1:33:51
  I want to know because I have speaking suspicion that the CIA
• 1:33:55
  paid them to do it. I mean.
• 1:34:00
  And then they spent the next how many years slandering Malcolm,
• 1:34:04
  saying he's the violent guy and you shouldn't listen to him?
• 1:34:08
  Fuck that shit, that ain't true. Yeah, it's like.
• 1:34:16
  His argument was if you're being if your neck is being stepped on
• 1:34:19
  by an oppressive government, you should rise up against it.
• 1:34:22
  That's the most American shit I've ever heard.
• 1:34:25
  He he also said that, and I know I'm butchering the quote, but
• 1:34:30
  there's nothing with in a newspaper which can be believed
• 1:34:33
  or something. He was He was skeptical of the
• 1:34:39
  corporal press before a lot of people.
• 1:34:43
  Yeah, he's, he's sort of where I got that from, You know, like
• 1:34:46
  originally, again, I grew up in a pretty black community.
• 1:34:51
  A lot of my friends were black. And they're like, hey, have you
• 1:34:53
  heard about Malcolm X? I'm reading this autobiography.
• 1:34:55
  I was like, is it good? Yeah.
• 1:34:58
  Yeah. I started reading it and man,
• 1:35:00
  like I the only things I disagree with Malcolm X on are a
• 1:35:05
  matter of perspective like that he was.
• 1:35:10
  He's black and I'm white, so I have some slight differences in
• 1:35:13
  perspective, but otherwise I think the bulk of what he was
• 1:35:17
  saying was the true and useful. Yeah, I'm a big Malcolm X
• 1:35:25
  supporter, I think. I think he's one of the most
• 1:35:27
  maligned characters in the civil rights era and doesn't deserve
• 1:35:30
  it. They they treat him worse than
• 1:35:34
  all the KKK guys of the era who were meeting with like Marcus
• 1:35:37
  Garvey and shit. Yeah, I, I, yeah, I would.
• 1:35:39
  I would agree. I would agree with that.
• 1:35:43
  That's because Malcolm's message if if many black people actually
• 1:35:47
  adopted what he was saying would be bad for the government at the
• 1:35:52
  time because they were trying to institute the welfare state,
• 1:35:55
  which is exactly what he was warning against, that the
• 1:35:58
  welfare state would take the fathers out of the home of the
• 1:36:00
  black community. And then further than that, he
• 1:36:02
  said that it'll happen to the white community too, it'll just
• 1:36:05
  take longer. Well, here we are.
• 1:36:06
  Flash forward all these years later, the fatherlessness rate
• 1:36:10
  that he was talking about in the black community has reached 72%
• 1:36:13
  and the father's fatherless rate in the white community, children
• 1:36:18
  born out of wedlocks has reached the upper 60s.
• 1:36:20
  We're almost at parity. He was right.
• 1:36:22
  The welfare state, it yeah, it took a little longer, but it
• 1:36:25
  ruined everybody. Yeah.
• 1:36:29
  You replace dad with the government, that's what's going
• 1:36:31
  to happen. We need dads.
• 1:36:37
  That's what we need, Sam. That's the answer.
• 1:36:41
  Don't abandoned your if you get it.
• 1:36:42
  If you have a kid, don't abandoned them is my my advice
• 1:36:45
  gentlemen. Even if the bitch is crazy, you
• 1:36:49
  don't have to stay with her forever.
• 1:36:50
  But do not abandon your children.
• 1:36:52
  Teach them to be men. They need you.
• 1:36:56
  Don't fuck crazy. Yeah, that too.
• 1:37:00
  Hey, sometimes shit happens and go hate, but don't take it out
• 1:37:05
  on the kids. Don't abandoned your kids.
• 1:37:07
  This is the most important thing you could do this with.
• 1:37:09
  Malcolm X was telling people, and if they had listened in the
• 1:37:12
  black community, they'd live in the white community.
• 1:37:15
  We wouldn't have fatherlessness rates through the roof like we
• 1:37:18
  do. The fact that the majority of
• 1:37:20
  kids are born out of wedlock is insane.
• 1:37:26
  Yep, I mean. And it's the only time in
• 1:37:29
  recorded history that that's been true as well.
• 1:37:33
  To be fair, I mean I, to be fair, I mean I was, I was one of
• 1:37:37
  them. Me too.
• 1:37:40
  But I mean that that's also, I mean, I turned out, I turned out
• 1:37:48
  fairly, I turned out fairly OK. Your dad didn't abandoned you.
• 1:37:54
  You guys might have some disagreements, but he's still to
• 1:37:57
  this day a part of your life. Yeah.
• 1:38:02
  Were you? You were born out of wedlock.
• 1:38:05
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:38:09
  But I mean, like, you know, my, my parents were also, I guess I
• 1:38:17
  mean older my, my mom's her little wise she was, she was 37,
• 1:38:23
  so. Yeah, see, I met my biological
• 1:38:27
  dad when I was 16 and he died when I was like 22.
• 1:38:32
  Damn. My my my biological father,
• 1:38:36
  probably when I was 17, but shortly after one of my major
• 1:38:42
  back surgeries and he died 2022. Yeah.
• 1:38:53
  From an alcohol rotted brain. Man, that's a little too close
• 1:38:59
  to home because yeah, yeah, my biological father, they had done
• 1:39:03
  a surgery, removed most of his fucking liver, told him if you
• 1:39:06
  drink again, you're going to die.
• 1:39:07
  Guess what happened? He drank again.
• 1:39:09
  Got lonely? That's actually I've already
• 1:39:14
  gone this far. May as well finish the story.
• 1:39:17
  And they had four, four kids. I was the oldest.
• 1:39:22
  So in a nursing home down in fucking Florida, they wanted me
• 1:39:26
  to fucking take power of attorney.
• 1:39:29
  I literally only let the fucking man once in my entire at that
• 1:39:34
  point for 38 years of life. I'm like, I barely really know
• 1:39:38
  the man. Get a hold of my half sister.
• 1:39:41
  I don't need this on my on my conscience.
• 1:39:45
  Yeah, and I was. Like, oh, you need me to do for
• 1:39:48
  him? Well, you could have told him to
• 1:39:50
  be here for my life. Right.
• 1:39:53
  Yeah, I I did have the pleasure of punching my biological father
• 1:39:58
  in the face one time. I wish I had.
• 1:40:01
  But it wasn't, it wasn't because of me.
• 1:40:03
  You see, he he hit my half sister in front of me and I
• 1:40:08
  didn't take kindly to that. Yeah, I'd have done that too.
• 1:40:12
  And then he ran home and I went and what?
• 1:40:14
  He lived down the street. So I walked down the street,
• 1:40:16
  knock on the door. He opened the door.
• 1:40:18
  He was drunk. Obviously I just punched him in
• 1:40:21
  the face. And I said you don't ever touch
• 1:40:22
  her again. And I just left.
• 1:40:26
  He didn't have anything to say because he was on the floor.
• 1:40:30
  Damn well. I don't take kindly to men who
• 1:40:34
  hit women. Sam in front of me.
• 1:40:36
  That's a good way to get your ass kicked.
• 1:40:38
  Yeah, no, not. I have the I have the physical
• 1:40:43
  presence to enact that, so I feel obligated to do it.
• 1:40:47
  So somebody hits a woman in my presence.
• 1:40:51
  That's not it doesn't end well. Not.
• 1:40:57
  A fan, not a fan. And she was a teenager, so it
• 1:41:01
  was even worse, right? Yeah.
• 1:41:03
  And he's like, that's my daughter.
• 1:41:04
  You don't get involved. I'm like, I don't fucking care.
• 1:41:09
  Yeah, that, yeah, that's that's a shitty justification.
• 1:41:12
  And you're and you're like, that's my sister.
• 1:41:14
  Fuck you. Well, I said half sister to
• 1:41:20
  explain that she's his daughter, but I never don't really see it
• 1:41:24
  that way. Understandable.
• 1:41:26
  It was just a family friend or something, right?
• 1:41:31
  Yeah. I didn't grow up with them, I
• 1:41:33
  didn't really know them, so to call them half sisters is weird.
• 1:41:37
  Right. But it explains why he's hitting
• 1:41:41
  the see if I just say that half sister, but everybody's like,
• 1:41:44
  OK, that's his daughter. But I would never, I would never
• 1:41:49
  say it in any other context. No, I don't.
• 1:41:50
  I haven't seen her since she was 15 and she's like 30 something.
• 1:41:56
  So I just not my family, you know?
• 1:41:58
  Reasonable my. Family now as famously I've
• 1:42:04
  disassociated from my biological family about 16-17 years ago.
• 1:42:11
  I haven't talked to anyone except for my brothers since
• 1:42:15
  then. Yeah, the the only.
• 1:42:17
  And I won't ever talk to my mother again.
• 1:42:20
  Yeah, the only one on the that side of the family that I talked
• 1:42:24
  to, I mean semi regular basis were my grandparents because
• 1:42:30
  despite what my Jackass biological father did, they
• 1:42:33
  actually kept up with my life and and whatnot.
• 1:42:36
  Unfortunately, they also passed shortly before COVID.
• 1:42:42
  That's rough. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's tough out
• 1:42:45
  there, man. It's like my my stepdad
• 1:42:49
  obviously hated my guts and I'm not joking or, or exaggerating.
• 1:42:57
  He like actually like disowned me and was a big fan of my mom's
• 1:43:05
  abuse of me obviously because he allowed it for 20 something
• 1:43:08
  years. So yeah, I had to make myself a
• 1:43:15
  man. And so this is if younger guys,
• 1:43:20
  if you ever wonder why I'm hard on you, it's because you, most
• 1:43:24
  of you have advantages to becoming a man that I didn't
• 1:43:26
  have. Yeah, thankfully I had my mom's
• 1:43:30
  dad, Grandpa, my poppy. I had and this is the thing.
• 1:43:38
  I kind of got into this about the Ozzy thing.
• 1:43:41
  It's even worse with the Hulk Hogan thing.
• 1:43:43
  That's who I had to look up to as a man.
• 1:43:49
  And everybody, everybody out there, that's like, no offense,
• 1:43:53
  probably even you guys are kind of posers by my logic when it
• 1:43:57
  comes to Ozzy. Maybe not Mort, but definitely
• 1:44:01
  Sam. Sorry, Sam, but I don't think
• 1:44:05
  you're a big Ozzy fan. I think you like a couple of his
• 1:44:08
  radio songs, right? There's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:44:11
  That's fair. But for me, y'all people like
• 1:44:15
  you kind of took mourning away one of my father figures from me
• 1:44:22
  and then it's all about this fucking shitty TV show that he
• 1:44:25
  was abused on that everybody loved.
• 1:44:28
  But to me it was a symbol of him being completely demasculated
• 1:44:32
  and ruined. Yeah, that that show was shit.
• 1:44:35
  Yeah, and then like Hulk Hogan, it's the same thing, man.
• 1:44:39
  You might have saw him in the 90s as a kid when he was a bad
• 1:44:42
  guy. I was a Hulk of maniac.
• 1:44:46
  I'm. Birth.
• 1:44:48
  I never, I never saw Hulk as a bad guy.
• 1:44:52
  I I. I was more I was more of a
• 1:44:55
  warrior guy when I was younger. OK, yeah, but you won't.
• 1:44:59
  You're not even old enough to say what Mort just said.
• 1:45:02
  You're talking about Hollywood Hogan.
• 1:45:04
  That, that is, that is, that is fair.
• 1:45:07
  I said the same thing to my wife.
• 1:45:09
  I went up when I first heard about it.
• 1:45:11
  I went upstairs and she was crying and she's like Hulk Hogan
• 1:45:13
  dad. And I'm kind of an asshole thing
• 1:45:16
  to do, but I was like, you're not even old enough.
• 1:45:18
  And I walked out of the room and it's like, that's not fair, but
• 1:45:26
  it is. It is fair.
• 1:45:29
  That is also the the most Max move ever.
• 1:45:33
  Facts. Ever too.
• 1:45:38
  Felt bad afterwards, but at the moment I'm like, God yeah I do
• 1:45:43
  feel like these mainstream leeches have taken away the
• 1:45:49
  ability to mourn for people who are like, impacted by them in a
• 1:45:53
  in a serious way like I was. Absolutely.
• 1:45:56
  That, that is, that is fair. I'm, I am.
• 1:45:59
  I'm probably going to be the same way when, when Clint
• 1:46:02
  Eastwood passes. Although God, the man, the man's
• 1:46:09
  not almost 95 S at this, right? You might, he might very well
• 1:46:13
  live forever. Stanley was the only one.
• 1:46:18
  Sam, it's not the same. It's not you grew up looking at
• 1:46:25
  old shit. That's what you're talking
• 1:46:28
  about. I grew up with Hulk Hogan during
• 1:46:31
  his peak with Ozzy in the 80s and 90s.
• 1:46:35
  During his peak is not the same as looking back and saying I
• 1:46:38
  really like Clint Eastwood's movies, man.
• 1:46:41
  He's only made a few movies in your whole life.
• 1:46:45
  Yeah, yeah. You're talking about movies made
• 1:46:48
  long before you were born. And I can, I can certainly see,
• 1:46:52
  but like, it's not the same as a father or something.
• 1:46:56
  He's more like a great grandfather in terms of age
• 1:47:00
  disparity. Oh yeah.
• 1:47:04
  So I'm not trying to diminish it, but what I'm saying is it's
• 1:47:07
  just it's, it's a different thing.
• 1:47:08
  It's like for for more and I and people of our age right around
• 1:47:13
  40, Hulk Hogan is if not their father figure to some degree.
• 1:47:17
  It was our childhood. It's either their second dad or
• 1:47:22
  their father figure, that's how big a deal it is.
• 1:47:25
  Yeah. Well, for me, I didn't have a
• 1:47:28
  first dad. Hulk Hogan taught me to fucking
• 1:47:32
  train and eat my vitamins and say my prayers.
• 1:47:37
  And like I said in that famous rant, yeah, it didn't matter
• 1:47:40
  that he was a hypocrite. I didn't know that.
• 1:47:47
  Yeah, we did. We didn't know that until years
• 1:47:48
  and years later. Yeah, it did not matter that he
• 1:47:51
  was a hypocrite, and I fucking hate when people point that out.
• 1:47:55
  Like, who cares? The message was good.
• 1:47:58
  It worked in a positive way on me.
• 1:48:00
  You're trying to take that from me?
• 1:48:02
  Fuck you. I and and I will, I'll add, I'll
• 1:48:05
  add to that. I'll add to that too, though,
• 1:48:07
  because I, I mean, yeah, we're all, we're all hypocrites at
• 1:48:11
  some point. He had what everyone forgets
• 1:48:16
  when pointing out that he's that he's a hypocrite.
• 1:48:18
  Is he? He had a redemption.
• 1:48:22
  He had recently given himself a word of Christ.
• 1:48:25
  Yeah. I could say, yeah, it was great
• 1:48:31
  that he converted. I won't call it a full
• 1:48:35
  redemption arc because he never stopped being the biggest liar
• 1:48:38
  that ever lived. True.
• 1:48:42
  Now that's part of who he is. He's larger than life, but he
• 1:48:45
  tells a lot of bullshit or he did tell a lot of bullshit.
• 1:48:49
  And I think that it, that the, the, that's, this was what I
• 1:48:53
  mean, I think everybody's simplifying his legacy.
• 1:48:57
  I think everybody's over overdoing it And, and for
• 1:49:02
  example, the racist stuff. No black professional that he
• 1:49:09
  worked with thinks he's a racist.
• 1:49:12
  None. Facts.
• 1:49:14
  Right now there are black wrestlers that think he's a
• 1:49:17
  racist that did not work with him, didn't know him.
• 1:49:24
  You could read the comments. He said in a video that you
• 1:49:26
  weren't supposed to see because it was taken without his consent
• 1:49:29
  and released without his consent.
• 1:49:31
  And he beat Gawker to death over it.
• 1:49:33
  But you can still look at those and you could say, oh, well, he
• 1:49:36
  said the N word. I guess he's done forever, huh?
• 1:49:41
  That's that's how it works. And I don't approve of that.
• 1:49:44
  I don't agree. He had a very boomer Tate.
• 1:49:48
  You know the boomer Tate. Do you know what he said, Sam?
• 1:49:54
  No. OK, So what he said was his
• 1:49:58
  daughter Brooke was dating a black guy who was a rapper, and
• 1:50:05
  he was a gang banger. Now, you know how boomers feel
• 1:50:09
  about the N word, right? That that they think it applies
• 1:50:12
  only to specific black people they don't like.
• 1:50:15
  Yeah. Is it?
• 1:50:16
  That's what he was doing. He said I'd rather have her
• 1:50:19
  dating a successful businessman black guy, not an N word.
• 1:50:25
  So he was just doing the boomer thing where they say that.
• 1:50:28
  Oh well. No, the N word only applies to
• 1:50:31
  certain black people. Right.
• 1:50:34
  Now that's stupid. We all know that.
• 1:50:36
  That's stupid, We all know that. That's not exactly how it works.
• 1:50:41
  Yeah, no, that, that's I, I kind of figured it was because that's
• 1:50:45
  how my grandfather, that's how my grandfather, you know,
• 1:50:48
  thought. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:49
  Oh no, my black friends, they're not that, but those black guys
• 1:50:54
  are. I get what you're trying to say,
• 1:50:58
  but it does not age well. It doesn't.
• 1:51:03
  However, if you put all of that context into what Hulk Hogan
• 1:51:07
  said, it's not really as racist as they would have you believe.
• 1:51:11
  Well, well, again, new, Well, again, this is what we've been
• 1:51:15
  talking about. Nuance.
• 1:51:17
  Nuance is dead and. Again, you like you said with
• 1:51:21
  the redemption arc. My nuance take is he continued
• 1:51:26
  to be a bullshitter long after that.
• 1:51:30
  Long after he converted to Christianity, he was still lying
• 1:51:33
  through his teeth all the time. Yeah.
• 1:51:38
  He was a man, a complicated man at that.
• 1:51:43
  Not so simple. But you know, you see, you saw
• 1:51:50
  him in the Hollywood era and you thought probably he was cool.
• 1:51:54
  So did I. Difference being though I was at
• 1:51:57
  the age appropriate. You are like a little baby.
• 1:52:01
  Sure. Why did I think he was cool then
• 1:52:04
  when I thought he was like, why did I turn with him?
• 1:52:11
  Because he he grew up with his fans, that's why.
• 1:52:14
  Right. That's why he's so fucking
• 1:52:16
  memorable. He grew up with us, he changed,
• 1:52:20
  he evolved. Everybody wants to say he's
• 1:52:21
  stale. Everyone wants to talk about the
• 1:52:23
  five moves of Doom and all this fucking shit.
• 1:52:25
  Bro. Hulk Hogan is the greatest
• 1:52:28
  professional wrestler who has ever lived and probably will
• 1:52:31
  ever live. And if you don't fucking agree
• 1:52:33
  with that, go watch. AW faggot.
• 1:52:41
  All 15 of you who watch it. Well, I can't.
• 1:52:47
  Go find Hogan's Japanese stuff, it's great.
• 1:52:51
  I but yeah, but that's again, this is.
• 1:52:54
  I get that, but that's the work rate argument.
• 1:52:57
  Oh, I know. I'm, I'm just saying he, he.
• 1:52:59
  My point is, I just wanted to say the man could go.
• 1:53:02
  He just didn't in WWE. You check in AWA as well.
• 1:53:06
  You can check Mid South for sure.
• 1:53:10
  He didn't do that much in WWE because he didn't need to.
• 1:53:14
  Right. Exactly.
• 1:53:15
  He's the. Best worker.
• 1:53:18
  He wasn't the best work rate guy.
• 1:53:19
  He wasn't doing fucking Olympic style wrestling, but he threw
• 1:53:24
  one fucking kick and the crowds on their feet, he throws 1
• 1:53:28
  fucking punch. He goes like this.
• 1:53:31
  That's not even a move. The crowds on their feet, that's
• 1:53:36
  what makes him the best ever. No one, not the Rock, not Stone
• 1:53:39
  Cold, has ever had that much of an effect.
• 1:53:42
  I mean, he's he is the he is one of, if not the ultimate showman.
• 1:53:51
  Yeah, I, I, I, I, I can say that for, for certainty, and that's
• 1:53:56
  part of his. Lying shtick.
• 1:53:59
  He's just trying to be entertaining and he tells lies
• 1:54:03
  to do it. If you look at most of Hulk
• 1:54:06
  Hogan's lies, they're harmless, but he never stopped lying.
• 1:54:14
  Unfortunately. Like he said, he did a show at
• 1:54:18
  Wembley Stadium for a kid with cancer.
• 1:54:21
  That never happened, That just didn't happen.
• 1:54:25
  There's just no such thing ever happened.
• 1:54:27
  But he keeps telling the story right up until he died.
• 1:54:30
  Right, So right. And so there and so therefore
• 1:54:33
  I've seen people say that makes him like the worst, you know,
• 1:54:39
  piece of shit ever and that, you know, they're they're trying to
• 1:54:42
  vilify him. Yeah, but here's The thing is
• 1:54:45
  that one cancer kid might not be real, but Hulk Hogan threw.
• 1:54:50
  Make a wish. Hulk Hogan threw right Like Hulk
• 1:54:54
  Hogan dealing with sick kids was like an everyday occurrence
• 1:54:58
  literally until he died. Yeah, we even, we even, we even
• 1:55:02
  read the story last year of how he punched through an airbag.
• 1:55:06
  Save, you know, to save a girl's life or something.
• 1:55:12
  He never turned down a kid for an autograph or a picture.
• 1:55:16
  No. As big as Hulk Hogan is, he
• 1:55:18
  never turned a kid down. Adults.
• 1:55:22
  Yeah, yeah, he'd turn adults down if he's busy, but never a
• 1:55:25
  kid. And he did more make a wish kid
• 1:55:28
  stuff with again, you know, kids like you could have been with
• 1:55:32
  Hulk Hogan when you were a kid. For sure he would have met with
• 1:55:35
  somebody if if fucking yacht in the program or whatever.
• 1:55:38
  That's what he did. He loved it.
• 1:55:40
  He loved the kids. He loved being a positive role
• 1:55:43
  model for kids. He had fun as a bad guy.
• 1:55:46
  Not yeah, obviously after being a role model for so long, he got
• 1:55:50
  to cut loose in. WC Yeah.
• 1:55:53
  But notice what did he do after that?
• 1:55:55
  He went back to the role model shit for the rest of his career.
• 1:56:02
  He was a little hellish in TNA, but that was more because people
• 1:56:07
  didn't want him in TNA. To be fair, they didn't want him
• 1:56:12
  and Bischoff in TNA because they had killed WCW.
• 1:56:15
  They were afraid they were going to kill.
• 1:56:16
  Yeah. Seems like TNA is a zombie
• 1:56:18
  promotion though because it just doesn't die.
• 1:56:21
  So. Do you know TNA has now lived
• 1:56:24
  longer than WCW did? Yeah.
• 1:56:26
  Shit, I was talking about TNADNA being being on the Alps 10 years
• 1:56:30
  ago and they're still. Keeping around.
• 1:56:35
  Yeah. That pay-per-view wasn't bad,
• 1:56:38
  although I've been I've been a big on AAA lately.
• 1:56:42
  That's my favorite wrestling. Also yes, Chuck Mangione did
• 1:56:48
  die, but to. Be fair.
• 1:56:51
  To be fair, I thought I thought he.
• 1:56:53
  To be fair, I already thought he was dead.
• 1:56:56
  I didn't know or care. He did like a song in the 70s on
• 1:57:01
  the radio and then is a meme from King of the Hill.
• 1:57:03
  Yeah, it's. I love the people.
• 1:57:06
  Like deaths, celebrity deaths come in threes.
• 1:57:09
  Hulk Hogan, Ozzy Osbourne, you're really going to put him
• 1:57:13
  as the third? I know, like, I'm, I'm a jazz
• 1:57:17
  guy. Even even I'm like, really?
• 1:57:19
  Chuck Mangione, come on. Nah, it's tragic for his family,
• 1:57:25
  but he was older than dirt. No, the third third, which came
• 1:57:29
  first, was laughing with your mom, Warner.
• 1:57:33
  Hulk Hogan was in good health two months ago.
• 1:57:39
  Yeah. That's why it's weird.
• 1:57:42
  The Aussie thing's not even as sad to me.
• 1:57:44
  I knew when he said it was his last concert he was going to die
• 1:57:46
  this year. I don't I'm surprised nobody
• 1:57:48
  else realized that. Like y'all didn't get what he
• 1:57:54
  was doing. He definitely knew he was he was
• 1:57:59
  going. Oh yeah.
• 1:58:01
  Just just the way he sang Mama, I'm coming home, you could tell.
• 1:58:06
  Yeah, he knew. He knew.
• 1:58:08
  I'm surprised nobody else knew. He's been sick for a very long
• 1:58:11
  time. It's funny because people
• 1:58:13
  watched his demented, crazed behavior from when he was in his
• 1:58:19
  50s and 60s on ATV and then they don't think that he might be in
• 1:58:24
  ill health now 20 years later. Bro he couldn't talk when you
• 1:58:28
  watched him on TV 20 years ago. Why do you think he would be in
• 1:58:31
  good health now? Yeah.
• 1:58:34
  Like come on, So. Ozzy can fix everything.
• 1:58:39
  I I wasn't shocked at all by Ozzy.
• 1:58:41
  I was shocked that Hulk Hogan died.
• 1:58:44
  I'm not going to lie. Chuck lands, like you said, we
• 1:58:47
  wouldn't even know he was still alive.
• 1:58:50
  And you're a jazz guy and you didn't even know.
• 1:58:53
  Yeah. So look, yeah, he's a good
• 1:58:56
  musician. I'm not going to shit on his
• 1:58:58
  music, but man, he was also very old and lived a good life.
• 1:59:03
  You could say that about both Hulk and Ozzy.
• 1:59:06
  Good musician, but he's not a good musician.
• 1:59:10
  But he's also, as far as like jazz people go, he's not like
• 1:59:14
  Miles Davis. Or.
• 1:59:16
  Or he's not. He's not Pat Matheny.
• 1:59:19
  He's someone who, like, you know, transformed the genre.
• 1:59:23
  And the only reason more people would know his name than than
• 1:59:25
  Pat's is because of King of the Hill.
• 1:59:28
  Right. Fax yeah and yeah.
• 1:59:30
  And because you go into any supermarket at at least here,
• 1:59:34
  and that song's been playing for like.
• 1:59:38
  Up here too, Sammy. Yeah, since before, certainly
• 1:59:42
  before I was born. But people wouldn't even, I, I
• 1:59:45
  think without the King of the Hill thing, most people wouldn't
• 1:59:47
  even put two and two together with the song.
• 1:59:49
  Oh yeah. It's literally like 90% of the
• 1:59:52
  people upset literally their only experience with him is King
• 1:59:55
  of the Hill one episode. Right.
• 2:00:00
  But yeah, he's not. He's on an equal tier with Ozzy
• 2:00:03
  fucking Osbourne and Hulk fucking Hogan, right?
• 2:00:08
  I mean, even if you're like the ultimate jazz guy, you would be
• 2:00:11
  like, yeah, Nah, Nah, not really.
• 2:00:13
  He's more like mid tier and then Sam's.
• 2:00:22
  It's Rumble died. Got Sammy.
• 2:00:25
  And and and and. And not even upper mid tier like
• 2:00:30
  mid mid or low mid tier. Max that that that that
• 2:00:34
  comparison was so ridiculous that Rumble just decided to eat
• 2:00:40
  to eat. Even Rumble knows that.
• 2:00:44
  You eat the cripple. That that like tried to put
• 2:00:48
  Chuck Mangione in the same category as Ozzy and Hulk.
• 2:00:55
  I I have come up with a foolproof method of asking
• 2:01:00
  people and and knowing whether I'm going to be OK with them.
• 2:01:04
  Morning Ozzy or not. You ready?
• 2:01:08
  Sure. OK, who's Randy Rhodes?
• 2:01:15
  The share? OK, you get one more question.
• 2:01:24
  Who's Tony Iommi? The the drummer for Black
• 2:01:28
  Sabbath. Sam so fucking close.
• 2:01:35
  But no, he played guitar in Black Sabbath.
• 2:01:38
  He is the band Black Sabbath. Facts.
• 2:01:42
  Every other member of Black Sabbath changed except for Tony
• 2:01:45
  Iommi, the guitarist who basically coined the term heavy
• 2:01:49
  metal because he worked in a metal shop and he got the tips
• 2:01:52
  of his fingers cut off and that's why he played the way he
• 2:01:55
  did and he created this darker sound the Black Sabbath is known
• 2:01:59
  for that spawned metal. That's who Tony Iommi is.
• 2:02:02
  So if somebody tells me they don't know either of his two
• 2:02:08
  best guitar players, and I'll give you the third one is Zack
• 2:02:11
  Wylde, But you would have known that.
• 2:02:13
  Yep. Yeah.
• 2:02:15
  And that's how I know you're like mainstream fan, because you
• 2:02:19
  would have known Zack Wylde, but you didn't know Randy Rhodes,
• 2:02:23
  the guy he replaced, the guy that was like one of the best
• 2:02:26
  guitarists of all time. And it was so hard for me to not
• 2:02:29
  to not answer. I know I that's why I asked him
• 2:02:32
  and not you, because you would have given me all the right
• 2:02:34
  answers and it'd be less entertaining.
• 2:02:36
  Facts. He came.
• 2:02:40
  He came close enough that I'll give him right.
• 2:02:43
  And, and I'm sure you could have mentally seen me, Max.
• 2:02:45
  Like I want. I want to answer.
• 2:02:47
  I want to answer. I want to answer.
• 2:02:48
  I want to answer. I could, I could, I could feel
• 2:02:51
  your discomfort when he said drummer.
• 2:02:55
  Yeah. I felt it too.
• 2:02:57
  I was like, oh, it's so close. It's so close.
• 2:03:00
  Sam was he? He was either the drummer or the
• 2:03:05
  guitarist. And you picked the drummer.
• 2:03:07
  Ah, so close. Yeah.
• 2:03:10
  But that, but that's what I mean is like, for me, these aren't
• 2:03:15
  just names, you know, for me, this is like a part of my whole
• 2:03:20
  youth listening to Black Sabbath, listening to Tony,
• 2:03:24
  listening to fucking Randy Rhodes.
• 2:03:27
  Perfect example of some of Randy Rhodes's work that you would
• 2:03:30
  know Sam would be Crazy Train, Mr. Crowley, Diary of a Madman,
• 2:03:36
  Mama, I'm Coming Home. Every big Aussie song from the
• 2:03:39
  80s or 90s Randy Rhodes. Yeah.
• 2:03:43
  Zach Wilde came in to replace Randy Rhodes when Randy died.
• 2:03:49
  That's way oversimplifying it. I understand metal fans, but I'm
• 2:03:53
  explaining to Sam. Right.
• 2:03:56
  Give me some slack because it wasn't just because he died.
• 2:04:02
  There was more to it than Oh yeah, he came in because there
• 2:04:06
  was a guitarist slot. OK.
• 2:04:09
  And now Zack Wylde is a very he's a great guitarist.
• 2:04:13
  I'm not saying he's not, but most of the material he recorded
• 2:04:17
  with Ozzy was just re recordings of Randy Rhodes's work until
• 2:04:24
  like the 2000s or so and then he left the band too I'm pretty
• 2:04:30
  sure. I know he was at the concert,
• 2:04:33
  but I'm pretty sure the last bunch of tours Zach Wylde was
• 2:04:36
  not on them. Correct.
• 2:04:39
  And because like right now, he's on tour with Pantera, he's doing
• 2:04:43
  dime bags guitar parts, he's the fill in for dime bag Daryl.
• 2:04:50
  Which is it? Pantera No.
• 2:04:57
  No. Not without dime bag.
• 2:04:58
  Fuck no. Not without Dimebag or Vince.
• 2:05:01
  Facts. Yeah, it's kind of like.
• 2:05:06
  It's a Pantera cover band. A Pantera cover band with the
• 2:05:11
  actual singer I guess is the best way to put it.
• 2:05:14
  Yeah, pretty much. I thought about it but tickets
• 2:05:18
  were 150 bucks for shitty seats so I don't I'm not going to go.
• 2:05:23
  It sucks though because they're playing with Aman Amarth, who's
• 2:05:26
  like one of my favorite bands and never comes to America.
• 2:05:29
  Right. That's OK.
• 2:05:31
  I saw I had PE. We might be going to another
• 2:05:34
  concert next month, Sam. We're probably going to go see
• 2:05:36
  Prof in Boston. Oh nice.
• 2:05:40
  Complete opposite end of the spectrum from the metal show.
• 2:05:42
  I just went to a full on hip hop show.
• 2:05:47
  People are confused by me sometimes.
• 2:05:49
  Sam. I I can I can understand that
• 2:05:53
  I'm your I'm your Co host and sometimes I'm in.
• 2:05:58
  And and and how I confuse people is when I'm literally pulling up
• 2:06:02
  Gregorian chant just to chill out.
• 2:06:07
  I mean, that's it's pretty cool. That, that, yeah, that shit,
• 2:06:10
  that shit is pretty pretty. Cool, I've been.
• 2:06:13
  But I, I, there's two reasons I do it.
• 2:06:16
  One, because I, I genuinely enjoy it and it helps me chill
• 2:06:18
  out. And two, to somebody that I know
• 2:06:21
  is a total pop, pop music lover that doesn't know real music.
• 2:06:29
  So I'll put that put it on or on them.
• 2:06:31
  So again, just to fuck with them.
• 2:06:36
  So I got got quest 3 today. Awesome.
• 2:06:45
  I got it. Well I ordered it last week but
• 2:06:47
  it came in today. I've been using the The Quest 2
• 2:06:51
  for a while and what happened is Maxine played a little bit and
• 2:06:58
  now she's hooked. So I got the new one and I'm
• 2:07:06
  giving her my 2 and this is fucking dope.
• 2:07:13
  I've been playing a game. The game that she got addicted
• 2:07:15
  to actually is called Synth Riders and it's a music game.
• 2:07:21
  Where? It's kind of like Beat Saber.
• 2:07:24
  Everybody's seen Beat Saber where you got the two
• 2:07:26
  lightsabers and you cut the right color, but instead of it
• 2:07:31
  being lightsabers, your hands are two balls and you ride
• 2:07:36
  rails. It's hard to describe.
• 2:07:39
  That's cool. But you end up doing more of
• 2:07:42
  like the actual dance in some cases than you would any other
• 2:07:46
  way. And so I've been playing a lot
• 2:07:50
  of that. I've been trying to master the
• 2:07:53
  dark arts of disco. How good, How good are you?
• 2:08:00
  Have you? Have you mastered the dark arts?
• 2:08:02
  I'm getting there, Sam. I always fail at the end of
• 2:08:06
  Funky Town. Are you staying?
• 2:08:08
  Are you staying alive, Max? I am happy to report I have the
• 2:08:12
  number one score on Staying Alive as well as the number 2
• 2:08:17
  score on Dancing Machine by the Jacksons.
• 2:08:24
  Well, you are a dancing machine, Max.
• 2:08:27
  We, we. I knew that.
• 2:08:29
  But my biggest accomplishment isn't in the disco genre.
• 2:08:34
  I am the only person in the world, and that means I'm the
• 2:08:39
  number one scorer who has beaten the song Sea Walk by Corrupt.
• 2:08:43
  So officially Sam, I'm the best Crip Walker you've ever seen.
• 2:08:53
  I I feel like, I feel like I need a round of applause for
• 2:08:56
  that, but my. I I feel like the.
• 2:09:01
  Man, be out here trying to hold me down and shit 'cause I could
• 2:09:04
  see walk. I see how it is.
• 2:09:09
  I I ain't trying to hold you down.
• 2:09:12
  No, no, no, the man. You're not the man.
• 2:09:16
  Well, the man's trying to hold us all though.
• 2:09:18
  That's right, but especially if you can see walk.
• 2:09:22
  The crip walk salmon I do is totally different though.
• 2:09:25
  That's right, you guys would probably be better Crip walkers
• 2:09:28
  than I ever could. Well, we do.
• 2:09:31
  We do the Crippled Crawl and it's not as it's Mine's Alley.
• 2:09:36
  Mine Alley's does as scary as Ricky Berwick's.
• 2:09:41
  It's funny though, because like. You.
• 2:09:44
  Guys, you guys could play this game because you could totally
• 2:09:48
  play it sitting down, you know it's mostly your arm type stuff,
• 2:09:54
  but. Yeah.
• 2:09:57
  I just get there's walls that you got to dodge and you could
• 2:10:02
  just do it with your head, you know, but I don't.
• 2:10:11
  It's great though, because the walls in in some of the songs,
• 2:10:14
  like in Staying alive, I'm not even joking, there's walls
• 2:10:17
  coming at you, right? And like you're riding the rails
• 2:10:20
  and so the rail goes up like that and then down.
• 2:10:23
  And so you end up doing this, but you end up doing it full
• 2:10:27
  body because you're just like, you got a duck and then come up.
• 2:10:31
  Duck and then. It makes you do the dance.
• 2:10:34
  Right. Which is a man.
• 2:10:37
  I have lost a good amount of weight playing that fucking
• 2:10:42
  game. But now that I got the three,
• 2:10:47
  there's this new game I want to try.
• 2:10:48
  That's a boxing simulation game. It's called boxing underdogs.
• 2:10:54
  Oh yeah, I actually, I've actually heard of, I've seen
• 2:10:58
  trailers for that one. Yeah, I want to see how I can't
• 2:11:05
  fight. They won't let me fight.
• 2:11:07
  Nobody will give me an insurance.
• 2:11:10
  I've tried. I've gone to a couple gyms.
• 2:11:12
  Sam, my doctor, says that I can fight, but the insurance waivers
• 2:11:17
  don't. So the best I could do is take
• 2:11:22
  up VR boxing. I might I might do that myself
• 2:11:30
  if I if I ever got a headset. Yeah, I mean, I've really
• 2:11:36
  enjoyed. I also have a there's a game
• 2:11:38
  called Ragnarok where you're playing drums on a Viking boat.
• 2:11:42
  Oh yeah. That sounds fucking fun as hell.
• 2:11:45
  Yeah, it's basically Rock band drums, but you're on a Viking
• 2:11:49
  boat. It's exactly the same.
• 2:11:51
  There's four drums. They're color-coded.
• 2:11:53
  It's just like Rock band. I might have to.
• 2:11:55
  I might have to break up my my headset then Sam.
• 2:11:59
  Yeah, and and of course it allows custom songs.
• 2:12:02
  So I think it's called ragnarokcustoms.com has like any
• 2:12:07
  song you could ever want. And I played a lot of that
• 2:12:12
  because I didn't have enough space.
• 2:12:13
  It's a it's a game you can sit down and play, but Synth Riders,
• 2:12:17
  I mean, you can play it sitting down, but I find it to be much
• 2:12:20
  more fun. Stan Anyway, I enjoy this
• 2:12:22
  fucking thing. That's why I got the new one.
• 2:12:24
  This is like the not the three S, but the three.
• 2:12:28
  The 3S is actually worse. It's newer.
• 2:12:32
  It's cheaper but it's not as good so I got the three.
• 2:12:39
  Yeah. And we will be streaming VR
• 2:12:42
  content more like now that we realize how how easy it is to
• 2:12:47
  do. Yeah, I I did see like gameplay
• 2:12:55
  for the Batman Arkham. Yeah, that came with it.
• 2:13:00
  I haven't played it yet. I look, I got it at 8:00 PM and
• 2:13:04
  we started the show at 10 something, so I didn't have a
• 2:13:06
  lot of time. Yeah, I, I, you know, I, I
• 2:13:10
  don't, I would be hyped too, actually.
• 2:13:13
  Oh yeah, I'm going to play the shit out of this is when we're
• 2:13:16
  off air. But so, you know, you know, we
• 2:13:20
  had a show to do. We had a lot we could talk
• 2:13:23
  about. Well, well, we actually have
• 2:13:26
  covered a fair lot of a fair bit of ground actually, mainly
• 2:13:31
  bitching over boomers not understanding technology.
• 2:13:36
  Yes, Internet. Yeah, if you're a boomer and you
• 2:13:40
  can't grab one of these and set it up yourself to play within
• 2:13:45
  like an hour, you shouldn't be writing legislation about
• 2:13:48
  technology. That's how easy it is to set up
• 2:13:53
  1. Yeah.
• 2:13:56
  And two, I just don't think boomers should be writing these
• 2:14:01
  laws at all, you know, with the exceptions of some of the
• 2:14:06
  boomers, because The thing is, and we've gotten into this with
• 2:14:08
  some of the boomers, we've famously secret agent man was
• 2:14:12
  like boomers built computers. Yes, some of them did.
• 2:14:17
  Some of them know technology quite well.
• 2:14:21
  If you take my stuff as generalizing as all boomers and
• 2:14:24
  you're like but my one Boomer isn't like that, I question if
• 2:14:30
  you're intelligent. The the problem with the
• 2:14:33
  problem. But we know Secret Agent Man
• 2:14:35
  isn't intelligent. True.
• 2:14:37
  The problem with the problem with his argument it when he
• 2:14:40
  says but boomers build computers, those boomers he's
• 2:14:46
  referring to are dead. Yeah, and most of them were
• 2:14:51
  actually Greatest Generation. Well, yes, that yes, that's
• 2:14:57
  that. That's the other thing.
• 2:14:58
  Or Gen. X.
• 2:14:59
  Actually, nobody contributed less to computers as a
• 2:15:05
  generation than the boomers, actually.
• 2:15:09
  That is true. Yeah, they will tell you the
• 2:15:13
  opposite, but it's really easy. Like, ask somebody who is a tech
• 2:15:17
  boomer, like John Carmack. In fact, John Carmack's probably
• 2:15:21
  the king tech boomer. He'll tell you the same thing.
• 2:15:25
  Boomers didn't do shit. My mom sold computers, but
• 2:15:30
  that's not the same thing. Well, sure, yeah.
• 2:15:34
  And she? They had, they loved the
• 2:15:36
  commercialization of computers, so that was probably a great job
• 2:15:39
  for her to have. Oh yeah.
• 2:15:42
  They just didn't know how they worked, if they were like, oh,
• 2:15:45
  give me your black magic box, Madam.
• 2:15:52
  Yeah, I'm laughing while your. Mom was just a voodoo priestess,
• 2:15:56
  you know. What I mean I I'm laughing
• 2:15:57
  because I think someone might have actually said that to her
• 2:16:00
  before she retired. Oh yeah.
• 2:16:03
  Someone someone complained someone came into the into the
• 2:16:08
  Apple store once complaining to her that that they couldn't find
• 2:16:13
  their car with their iPhone. But The thing is, it was it
• 2:16:19
  wasn't a smart car that could even do that.
• 2:16:22
  It was just like a right. It was like a 2000 like.
• 2:16:28
  Motherfucker's got like a Nokia brick phone.
• 2:16:30
  He's like, I can't find my car with it.
• 2:16:35
  Exactly. My favorite is they'll like give
• 2:16:40
  you a piece of technology and tell you to make it do a thing.
• 2:16:45
  Oh yeah. A thing that it can't even do
• 2:16:48
  sometimes. Facts.
• 2:16:50
  Yeah. They'll like hand you something
• 2:16:53
  and they'll be like, make this keep track of all my pictures
• 2:16:56
  from the last 35 years and you're just like, this is a
• 2:17:04
  pager from the 80s. What am I supposed to do with
• 2:17:08
  this? Doesn't even have service
• 2:17:12
  anymore because nobody has pager service anywhere.
• 2:17:15
  Yeah, at, at, at, at this point, you just throw it at somebody's
• 2:17:17
  head. Boomers are like, I don't care
• 2:17:21
  how you get it to work. You your you work your
• 2:17:23
  millennial magic on it and you just make it do the thing I
• 2:17:26
  want. Yeah, but they want to write the
• 2:17:31
  laws. Yeah, my, yeah, my, my, my
• 2:17:34
  favorite thing is my, my favorite thing is like when is
• 2:17:40
  when a is when a boomer hands you their their phone.
• 2:17:44
  And it's like, I can't Remember Remember my username and
• 2:17:48
  password. You go and you go and fix it.
• 2:17:52
  And I'm like, no, you need to. You need to learn this.
• 2:17:56
  Or can you can you reset the the time on my VCR please?
• 2:18:02
  Hey, have you ever heard of a password manager?
• 2:18:07
  No, no, no. I don't want.
• 2:18:09
  I don't want it to keep track of that.
• 2:18:11
  I want you to do it. It's like password managers are
• 2:18:17
  built into every browser. Now think about that.
• 2:18:22
  Yeah. They can't even get their
• 2:18:24
  password straight with things that were meant to fix that
• 2:18:27
  exact problem. Every boomer too every that's
• 2:18:35
  you know, there's not all. Not alls even.
• 2:18:37
  Every. Boomer forgets their password.
• 2:18:39
  Yeah, everybody with a good boomer, yes.
• 2:18:42
  Yeah. I'm sorry, if you're listening
• 2:18:44
  to the show right now and you're a boomer, ask yourself this.
• 2:18:48
  What is your password? If you don't know, shut up.
• 2:18:53
  Mom, what is? If you're watching this by
• 2:18:56
  chance, what is the Netflix password?
• 2:19:02
  Asking for a friend. No, I'm I'm asking because I I
• 2:19:08
  know that's the one that she done that she doesn't know.
• 2:19:13
  Thing of it is I don't know. I don't know that one either,
• 2:19:18
  but she's but she but she's the one who has it so I can't enter
• 2:19:24
  it into my my password. My favorite this is this is a
• 2:19:30
  vaccine special. Her mom will forget the
• 2:19:36
  passwords. Tell her to set the new password
• 2:19:40
  and then she made a booklet. She's like ma you need you need
• 2:19:43
  like to write these down so you stop forgetting them.
• 2:19:46
  She writes them down, changes them after.
• 2:19:52
  Yes, my, my, my grandparents did that with my uncle and it was
• 2:19:59
  hilarious. Well, it was hilarious for me as
• 2:20:02
  like an as an observer it. I found it very funny as well.
• 2:20:06
  My wife, not so much. Yeah.
• 2:20:12
  Oh, man. And then of course, this is a
• 2:20:17
  good number of boomers. I'm going to say maybe not even
• 2:20:20
  a majority, but a plurality. Certainly if you get scammed
• 2:20:24
  online, I don't want to hear you talk about what tech laws should
• 2:20:28
  be. Facts.
• 2:20:32
  That's, that's probably what what's happened.
• 2:20:38
  That's probably what's happened with a, with a lot of these, you
• 2:20:46
  know, boomers. I I, I love the fact too, that
• 2:20:49
  like they're all excluded from the ID because you know that
• 2:20:54
  Bill, you know that Bill Clinton has probably been on Pornhub for
• 2:20:58
  years searching he. Was probably one of the 1st 100
• 2:21:04
  subscribers. Yeah, well, well knowing knowing
• 2:21:07
  Bill, he was probably searching for OK cigar and.
• 2:21:15
  Cigar and pussy please. Yeah.
• 2:21:19
  Oh, Hillary, that that was, that was me.
• 2:21:23
  That was someone. That was someone else.
• 2:21:25
  I was searching that. Hashtag pussy spell.
• 2:21:31
  It's right between his search for AIDS medication and how to
• 2:21:36
  kidnap children. How, How do I get rid of a
• 2:21:43
  certain painting of me in a blue dress?
• 2:21:47
  Yeah. How do we pretend the Podesta
• 2:21:53
  emails didn't happen? Motherfuckers all about Epstein
• 2:22:01
  files bro. Wasn't the like everybody
• 2:22:04
  dropped that Podesta shit real quick?
• 2:22:06
  I think the Podesta shit was even more SUS than Epstein.
• 2:22:11
  Hell yeah. I I'm, I'm just no more upset
• 2:22:14
  about Benghazi than I have about the Epstein.
• 2:22:18
  If you want to know the truth. Yeah.
• 2:22:21
  Like OK. If any of us released the.
• 2:22:25
  Frazzle Drip. If, if any of us handled emails
• 2:22:30
  like fucking Hillary did, we'd be fucking thrown under the
• 2:22:33
  goddamn jail. Yeah, how they they were, they
• 2:22:38
  were trying to they they were trying to throw Trump in jail
• 2:22:42
  for less, for less than. Oh, Speaking of, thank you.
• 2:22:48
  That's actually one thing I forgot about.
• 2:22:51
  Like last week Max had comments on the Obama thing, which I.
• 2:23:04
  Well, we got another thing to thank him for.
• 2:23:08
  For being so retarded that he left evidence of a crime behind
• 2:23:11
  and didn't pardon himself. Thanks, Obama.
• 2:23:18
  Well, there, there's a reason why Doctor Craig calls him Oh
• 2:23:21
  bozo, Oh bozo. I guess he's living up to his
• 2:23:26
  his name with that, in that respect.
• 2:23:33
  It wouldn't, it wouldn't even be this way if they hadn't gone at
• 2:23:39
  him in every way possible last year, if they had not gone at
• 2:23:42
  Trump and. I'm.
• 2:23:44
  Gonna get him arrested, trying to get him in jail, shooting at
• 2:23:47
  him, all that shit. I really don't think he would
• 2:23:50
  have dug us deep into the Obama. Shit, Yeah, Nobody did.
• 2:23:55
  No. And what, what's what's even
• 2:23:57
  what's even funnier to me is all these all these corporal media
• 2:24:01
  people who were salivating over the the idea of Trump being the
• 2:24:04
  1st president to go to jail. They're now panicking over the
• 2:24:09
  prospect of Obama being the first one to, you know.
• 2:24:14
  Well, if the first black president is the 1st president
• 2:24:17
  to go to jail, I'm going to tell you this.
• 2:24:21
  The black community will see a message in that.
• 2:24:24
  I'm going to tell you they will definitely see that as a message
• 2:24:27
  and not a good one. Oh, for sure.
• 2:24:31
  But if he's going to jail, he's going to jail.
• 2:24:34
  It don't matter. Here here's here's always my
• 2:24:38
  question with with Obama though, and I know, I know that this is
• 2:24:44
  probably my most controversial take on Obama, but how black is
• 2:24:51
  how black is he really? A lot of a lot of my black
• 2:24:57
  friends would tell you that they think Trump is blacker than him.
• 2:25:01
  Exactly because at least Trump has a mug shot.
• 2:25:05
  Yeah. Well, that.
• 2:25:07
  Well, and and and his swag then like his not give a fuck.
• 2:25:13
  He say what he thinking kind of attitude, yeah.
• 2:25:17
  Now. They they, they look at look,
• 2:25:20
  they look at Obama more like a really cleaned up character.
• 2:25:27
  Yeah, well, even even my black friends who are engineers, none
• 2:25:33
  of them ever went to like any of the Ivy Leagues.
• 2:25:39
  Well, my black friends are. They didn't go to any Ivy
• 2:25:46
  Leagues. They went to the school of Hard
• 2:25:51
  Knocks. My.
• 2:25:51
  Friend right, right, but but no, but but no, that that's that's
• 2:25:55
  what I'm saying is like is like there seems to be that there
• 2:25:58
  seems to be like this idea that either all black men went to the
• 2:26:02
  school of Hard Knocks or that they all are like Uber, that
• 2:26:07
  they got Uber lucky and all ended up like going to like, you
• 2:26:11
  know, like a big sports school or one in the I like.
• 2:26:14
  The the black middle class doesn't exist kind of thing.
• 2:26:17
  I definitely heard a lot of that where it's absolutely not true,
• 2:26:21
  Yeah. Yeah, and it's like, and it's
• 2:26:23
  like, no, one of the guys that I play video games with is black
• 2:26:28
  and he's like an IT. Well, The thing is is the black
• 2:26:32
  middle class exists, but doesn't consider itself as such.
• 2:26:38
  Right. They consider them.
• 2:26:39
  Usually black middle class will consider themselves middle class
• 2:26:42
  1st. Right.
• 2:26:45
  Yeah, yeah. And that that's a disconnect
• 2:26:47
  with a lot of the rest of the black community that just kind
• 2:26:50
  of is able to just kind of look past them or, or to paint them
• 2:26:56
  in as they're the privileged rich people, like, right.
• 2:27:00
  And so. It's unfortunate, yeah.
• 2:27:02
  Like a lot of my friends would consider the kind of guys that
• 2:27:06
  are engineers or whatever as like, not their people.
• 2:27:11
  Right, right, which which isn't, which is unfortunate because
• 2:27:14
  like my because like my friend is definitely not my friend is
• 2:27:19
  definitely not like privileged like like he's not he's not
• 2:27:25
  ghetto, but he didn't like he didn't grow up in a great like
• 2:27:29
  home environment either like he's.
• 2:27:33
  Yeah, it's. It's always more complex than
• 2:27:36
  you'd like. Yeah.
• 2:27:38
  Fucking thing. But yeah, I mean, Obama doesn't
• 2:27:42
  represent most black people's experiences as far as I can
• 2:27:47
  tell. And, and you can hear that and a
• 2:27:51
  lot of them too, where they were very, they were big on it when
• 2:27:56
  he won and they were big on it. He made me the second time he
• 2:27:59
  won. But by now they're like, yeah,
• 2:28:01
  that's all that like that. Like who cares?
• 2:28:04
  Yeah. Because what did he do for me?
• 2:28:08
  And the answer in a lot of the cases I'm talking about, that's
• 2:28:10
  why they're my friends, is they're like nothing.
• 2:28:12
  He didn't do shit for me. Now did he do stuff that people
• 2:28:21
  in the black community would appreciate?
• 2:28:23
  I'm sure. But the people that I know don't
• 2:28:25
  think he did anything for them. Right.
• 2:28:28
  And in fact, a lot of them were able to get jobs, better jobs or
• 2:28:33
  jobs for in some cases, the first time in their adult life,
• 2:28:38
  because Trump came in and deported people and there was
• 2:28:41
  factory openings again, 'cause yeah, they were literally
• 2:28:47
  competing with the illegals for those jobs.
• 2:28:50
  And guess what? You're a black American.
• 2:28:53
  Well, I have to pay you 15 an hour.
• 2:28:55
  I could pay this Mexican guy way less than that.
• 2:28:57
  Guess who wins? Kimber Labor.
• 2:29:03
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It holds down the blank
• 2:29:07
  community a lot more than people think, and that's why.
• 2:29:09
  There's a larger time. There's a larger percentage of
• 2:29:14
  voted for Trump the second time and the third time than the
• 2:29:17
  first time, and because they were able to get more jobs when
• 2:29:22
  he was president. Yeah.
• 2:29:26
  That's that. I don't know how much it amounts
• 2:29:28
  to. I think it's about 5 to 10% of
• 2:29:30
  the total black population, but that's a big shift.
• 2:29:34
  Yeah. Also, you know, you know what I
• 2:29:37
  don't see a lot of? Well, I don't, you know, I don't
• 2:29:41
  see a lot of black people talking like even among like
• 2:29:45
  Trump supporters is Epstein. Really.
• 2:29:57
  I don't really are. Maybe, maybe I maybe I'm seeing
• 2:30:04
  different influences than you are, but I'm not seeing like.
• 2:30:09
  They are not. No, they're they're all up in
• 2:30:12
  arms about that one. Really.
• 2:30:17
  Look, the thing, look, look, I love my homies, OK?
• 2:30:20
  But black guys are more likely to be conspiratorial off the
• 2:30:27
  bat, I find than me. I'm not saying then I'll be.
• 2:30:31
  I'm just than me, OK? And this was a great conspiracy
• 2:30:37
  for them because it has all the elements.
• 2:30:40
  They like rich white people behaving badly, stepping on
• 2:30:46
  people beneath them. There's a power broker elite,
• 2:30:50
  right? Like, they love that shit.
• 2:30:52
  So yeah, like, again, my friends are not middle class blacks.
• 2:30:59
  They're either rich or poor. Yeah.
• 2:31:04
  And they love them, the Epstein stuff, at least.
• 2:31:07
  They don't love it, but they want the release.
• 2:31:10
  They're real big on it, yeah. Yeah.
• 2:31:14
  I don't know but but they are more understanding, I find of my
• 2:31:18
  position than I found a lot of white people to be.
• 2:31:21
  I'll give them that. Yeah.
• 2:31:23
  Because my position is I'm sick of hearing about that shit.
• 2:31:26
  And they're like, yeah, I can see that.
• 2:31:27
  I don't want to hear about no dead pedophile all the time
• 2:31:30
  either. So they get it.
• 2:31:35
  But they're like, but you need, you know, we need to see what's
• 2:31:38
  in them files. And I'm just like, OK, I guess.
• 2:31:43
  But that's when my thing is like, but can we get the Malcolm
• 2:31:45
  M files? And they they're like, yeah, we
• 2:31:47
  need the Malcolm X-Files. Yeah, that's, that's the whole
• 2:31:51
  thing is like even I'm more interested in the in the Malcolm
• 2:31:54
  X-Files. Well, because it's a simple
• 2:31:59
  thing. If the government killed Malcolm
• 2:32:01
  X, it changes the entire narrative of the civil rights
• 2:32:04
  movement. Yeah.
• 2:32:07
  I'm pretty sure they killed Martin Luther King Junior, but
• 2:32:11
  there's not enough evidence to make that conclusion in those
• 2:32:13
  files. But there might be enough
• 2:32:16
  evidence to make the conclusion with the Malcolm X assassination
• 2:32:21
  because there's already almost enough evidence without them.
• 2:32:28
  Did James Earl ray shoot Martin Luther King junior?
• 2:32:31
  There's definitely questions about it.
• 2:32:34
  Who shot Malcolm X? Two unidentified teenage gang
• 2:32:42
  bangers. Yeah.
• 2:32:47
  Unidentified. The man's been dead for over 40
• 2:32:51
  years and they're unidentified. That is SUS as fuck.
• 2:32:59
  I want the truth. I want to know what happened to
• 2:33:02
  Malcolm and my my black brothers.
• 2:33:06
  Stand with me on that one. The only time somebody's
• 2:33:10
  unidentified for that long is if the fucking government wants
• 2:33:13
  them to stay unidentified because the government doesn't
• 2:33:16
  want to fucking know. And I don't.
• 2:33:18
  Want you to know. We know that their names are in
• 2:33:21
  the files. Well, that will.
• 2:33:24
  I try the same thing with Jimmy Hoffa too, like.
• 2:33:28
  The government knows, but the problem is they don't want you
• 2:33:31
  to know. Right.
• 2:33:36
  Yeah. I'm not, I'm not even saying
• 2:33:38
  that like Jimmy Hoff was, you know, a good guy or anything
• 2:33:42
  like that. But the government probably does
• 2:33:45
  know where he's where he's buried.
• 2:33:48
  They're just not telling us. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm.
• 2:33:53
  He's he's in a pillar of a building somewhere.
• 2:33:56
  I'm a lot less sure of that one than I am that they know exactly
• 2:34:00
  who killed Malcolm X and why. That's the key.
• 2:34:05
  They know why. I know.
• 2:34:06
  They know why. We, we would like an XI would
• 2:34:10
  like an explanation. And I know why.
• 2:34:14
  I know why because he was telling he was doing the
• 2:34:20
  opposite of saying please beg the government to come save the
• 2:34:24
  black man. Oh, oh, let's, let's because he
• 2:34:26
  hated Martin Luther King. I don't know if you knew that.
• 2:34:30
  And he's like, stop begging that white man to solve your
• 2:34:34
  problems. Let's stand up and solve some of
• 2:34:35
  our own problems. And every black man in the last
• 2:34:39
  50 years that has come out publicly and said something like
• 2:34:42
  that. And America has been ruined by
• 2:34:44
  the government. Yeah, well, I'm.
• 2:34:49
  Talking from Malcolm X to Tupac, you on and on the list goes.
• 2:34:57
  Any time it's the black community and black men and
• 2:35:00
  women need to improve ourselves is the message.
• 2:35:04
  Those people are the ones they go after.
• 2:35:06
  Which which I'll, I'll tell you what, like I've, I've heard, you
• 2:35:11
  know, whisperings that MLK was possibly a communist
• 2:35:18
  sympathizer. Possibly, you think, Possibly he
• 2:35:23
  wasn't a communist sympathizer. Sam, I want you to be real clear
• 2:35:27
  about this. We have the files now.
• 2:35:29
  Go look into him yourself. He was a card carrying member of
• 2:35:32
  the party. OK, yeah.
• 2:35:34
  So I, I, so I know I'm going to have to use the term allegedly
• 2:35:39
  that right. OK.
• 2:35:41
  So yeah, MLK was a comie, which feels good to be able to say
• 2:35:46
  that now. Some might argue socialist.
• 2:35:50
  I would argue that's the same thing.
• 2:35:54
  Yeah, but he was a member of the US Communist Party in in at one
• 2:35:58
  point. Malcolm X certainly wasn't the
• 2:36:03
  though, at least. Yeah, he was more.
• 2:36:07
  I'm not going to say he was pro capitalism, he wasn't, but he
• 2:36:11
  was. The argument could be made that
• 2:36:15
  his vision might have been a fascistic one, but fascism is
• 2:36:19
  such a vague term. He was certainly looking for
• 2:36:23
  like a unified black ethnostate type mentality.
• 2:36:31
  And it's real simple. He wanted he wanted to separate
• 2:36:33
  from America and and white people because, well, I mean,
• 2:36:40
  there's only two conclusions you can come to right after slavery
• 2:36:44
  and everything and Jim Crow. It's either we can live together
• 2:36:47
  or we can't. Well, Malcolm X took the stance
• 2:36:52
  that maybe we shouldn't. Maybe he, maybe we shouldn't.
• 2:36:57
  Because I can't trust you. Right.
• 2:37:00
  I don't see a problem with that. But you know, it's funny because
• 2:37:05
  like, I, I people confuse me for like a black nationalist or
• 2:37:10
  something. And it's like, well, no.
• 2:37:11
  I just have a lot of sympathies in the black community.
• 2:37:14
  I grew up alongside them. I'm from the hood.
• 2:37:18
  I know what black guys say, you know what I mean?
• 2:37:21
  I know like what, where they're where the chatter's at, if that
• 2:37:27
  makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:37:30
  So I end up, yeah, I end up having a lot of sympathies with
• 2:37:34
  the black nationalists of, of different types.
• 2:37:37
  I've, I've, you know, famously of friends with Chief Zakari of
• 2:37:41
  the Black Hebrew Israelites. Well, friends is, he does
• 2:37:45
  believe that God's going to make me and you and all white people
• 2:37:49
  his slave. But we were friends besides
• 2:37:53
  that. You know, that's fine.
• 2:37:58
  Yeah, I accept that his worldview says that God's going
• 2:38:03
  to make us all slaves. I just disagree.
• 2:38:08
  But man, was he fun to talk to. Yeah.
• 2:38:13
  And yeah, you could totally be friends with a black nationalist
• 2:38:15
  who says they hate white people. That happens.
• 2:38:17
  I have quite a few. Turns out they don't hate all
• 2:38:21
  white people, they hate most of them.
• 2:38:26
  Yeah. Well, I mean that, you know, on
• 2:38:37
  the flip side, I on the flip side, I've, I've known of white
• 2:38:42
  nationalists who say they don't hate all black people.
• 2:38:49
  Oh, you mean like, you mean like Nick Fuentes?
• 2:38:52
  Yes. Yeah.
• 2:38:56
  Yeah, see, here's the difference, though.
• 2:38:58
  It's like the Black Hebrew Israelites will be like, OK, you
• 2:39:02
  can come hang out, white boy, but we're going to tell you, you
• 2:39:05
  know, you're not one of us. You don't belong here.
• 2:39:08
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll be our friend.
• 2:39:12
  Fuentes is the opposite. It's like, Oh no, you're a part
• 2:39:14
  of the group now. You're we're, we're the white
• 2:39:17
  nationalists. And it's literally not one of
• 2:39:19
  them's white. I mean, he's.
• 2:39:26
  He's fucking. Mexican.
• 2:39:27
  His top lieutenant's a black guy.
• 2:39:29
  Yeah, they're not good white nationalists at all.
• 2:39:34
  No, no, they're really they're they're horrendous at the thing
• 2:39:39
  that they purport to be. If I have to pick, I'm joining
• 2:39:44
  my boys on the black nationalist side, brother, because like they
• 2:39:48
  might win, like they, they probably would win if that's the
• 2:39:52
  fight, if, if it's the way like everybody else is excluded,
• 2:39:55
  right? For this, for this hypothetical,
• 2:39:58
  it's only white nationalists and black nationalists.
• 2:40:02
  I'm picking the black national. They're going to win.
• 2:40:05
  That would that would be hilarious if like, because I'm
• 2:40:09
  just picturing like an army of black nationalists.
• 2:40:12
  And then there's you, the tall white.
• 2:40:17
  There, there'll be a couple, there'll be a couple big old
• 2:40:20
  white boys with them. You can almost bet on it.
• 2:40:27
  Yeah, and, and the white nationalists are like, wait,
• 2:40:29
  what? What's he doing over there?
• 2:40:32
  It's. Like, well, I'm going to be on
• 2:40:37
  the side with at least one other white guy.
• 2:40:42
  Turns out that's not the white guy side.
• 2:40:44
  Yeah, black guy side. There's just not one white guy
• 2:40:48
  on their side. I don't know.
• 2:40:54
  And you might say that Beardsen guy, but I mean, is he a guy?
• 2:40:57
  Is he more like an autistic man child?
• 2:41:03
  Yeah, I'd, I'd say so. Yeah, so I'm sorry that we're
• 2:41:12
  going to be on other opposite ends of the race war, Sam, but
• 2:41:15
  it is what it is. I mean, I might, who knows they,
• 2:41:24
  who knows, they might, they might accept me on in your side
• 2:41:29
  because I, I don't see, I don't see the white nationalists
• 2:41:32
  pitching in to build wheelchair Rams.
• 2:41:40
  Well, and you know, I'll teach. I'll teach you, you know, we'll,
• 2:41:43
  we'll, we'll get you reading Malcolm X, We'll get you looking
• 2:41:47
  into some Marcus Garvey and we'll get you straightened out,
• 2:41:51
  you know, so you can be just a little less of a, a cracker.
• 2:41:59
  I think. I think we could.
• 2:42:00
  I think we could blackened Sam a little bit.
• 2:42:03
  I think it could happen. First lesson is you got to
• 2:42:09
  listen to the entire discography of Eazy E.
• 2:42:14
  Now that that's that's, that's easy enough, pun intended.
• 2:42:23
  Boo. Awesome, awesome.
• 2:42:29
  Also for that, for those asking, I've I'm not.
• 2:42:35
  I'm not going to cover the Sidney Sweeney American Eagle ad
• 2:42:38
  because I don't care. However.
• 2:42:44
  You looked all up at that ad. You looked at it in great detail
• 2:42:50
  and I know it. Not enough.
• 2:42:56
  To like not enough to do an entire podcast on like some
• 2:43:00
  people. I think, I think you could, it's
• 2:43:04
  just that you would be talking about her tits and ass for two
• 2:43:07
  hours and rather than whatever everybody's mad about.
• 2:43:10
  What, what, what? What I will say is fuck Melanie
• 2:43:13
  Mack for being a giant goddamn hypocrite.
• 2:43:17
  Well, yeah, that's not a surprise.
• 2:43:19
  That's not a surprising thing, though.
• 2:43:23
  Well, no, but it had to be sad because she's done what she's
• 2:43:28
  accusing of Sidney, Sidney Sweeney of doing with the ad and
• 2:43:33
  for fucking G fuel. Well, and and she does the
• 2:43:37
  overtly white supremacist shit in some of it too.
• 2:43:41
  Facts. Yeah, Melanie Mack has actually
• 2:43:44
  said some shit like that before. See Sidney Sweeney.
• 2:43:47
  It's literally, as far as I can tell, it's.
• 2:43:50
  Just a jeans campaign. Yes, just a pun.
• 2:43:55
  Yes, yes, Sydney's, yes, Sydney's.
• 2:43:58
  First of all, Sydney Sweeney is like fully clothed in this ad
• 2:44:02
  and and. Far more clothes than the some
• 2:44:05
  of those Melanie Mack shots. Specifically the G, the G fuel
• 2:44:10
  ad. Yes.
• 2:44:14
  Yeah, she, I mean what, she had some cleavage out and she grabs
• 2:44:18
  her. So so by by Melanie Mack's
• 2:44:20
  definition, Sydney Sweeney's a prostitute.
• 2:44:24
  Melanie Mac's motor prostitute for G Fuel.
• 2:44:30
  True. Well, I mean, yeah.
• 2:44:34
  It's a good thing Maxine wasn't here for this one, because she'd
• 2:44:37
  have some thoughts about the Melanie Mac stuff.
• 2:44:40
  She'd have some thoughts about. The era, honestly.
• 2:44:44
  Because she really, as far as she, I can't tell you what she
• 2:44:49
  thinks about the, the jeans ad, but it was funny.
• 2:44:56
  Yes. Because that's how.
• 2:44:57
  It's got it. And she was like, wait a minute,
• 2:45:00
  they're saying it's racist. And I was like, yeah, she's
• 2:45:04
  like, how? I was like, I don't know.
• 2:45:11
  Because. It was played for last, that's
• 2:45:13
  what it was meant to be. Because Sidney Sweeney is a
• 2:45:18
  pretty white girl and we have to overthink every.
• 2:45:22
  Facts. Everything.
• 2:45:24
  Well, the kind of people upset about it already didn't like
• 2:45:27
  her, and they were only reason for not.
• 2:45:29
  Liking her? Was because she's blonde and
• 2:45:32
  blue eyed. Yes.
• 2:45:35
  And then they say, look at this blonde blue eyed bitch.
• 2:45:38
  And it's like, well, you already didn't like her.
• 2:45:40
  See, we already know that by the way you start out with talking
• 2:45:46
  about her. Blonde blue eyes 1.
• 2:45:48
  You Jelly? Super Jelly.
• 2:45:52
  Yeah. I mean, we know because you
• 2:45:56
  start with pointing out her physical features, though you
• 2:45:59
  already didn't like her. Yeah, that's that's all.
• 2:46:02
  That's all. That's what it is.
• 2:46:04
  It's it's what it's wouldn't be Jelly.
• 2:46:07
  That's. Right they they get Jelly as
• 2:46:11
  fuck and I wouldn't. Like I'm not going to sit here
• 2:46:16
  and say she's unattractive, but I don't even see the appeal.
• 2:46:20
  But hey, it works. Like I don't like I wouldn't say
• 2:46:23
  Oh my God, look at this woman, I need to look at her all the time
• 2:46:26
  or nothing like that. But yeah, she's an attractive
• 2:46:29
  girl. But Jesus Christ, people like
• 2:46:31
  y'all are simps. No offense but but I mean it's
• 2:46:38
  an attractive girl and you know that an attractive girl is going
• 2:46:43
  to have haters just because they're attractive.
• 2:46:45
  Yeah, I, I also think it has, I, I also think it has a lot to do
• 2:46:51
  with the fact that like we've been like for the past, the past
• 2:46:58
  decade, they've pushed woke corporal slop for so long that
• 2:47:04
  like anything is like. Did you see their did you see
• 2:47:09
  their gene campaign from one year ago?
• 2:47:11
  American Eagle. It was probably broke.
• 2:47:18
  OK so the ad a year ago was a big fat black lesbian.
• 2:47:24
  Oh, oh, yeah, I, Oh yeah, I, I did see that and I'm, I was
• 2:47:29
  trying. I mentally blocked it out.
• 2:47:32
  So basically. They.
• 2:47:35
  Got the message and they adjusted and as far as I can
• 2:47:43
  tell their gene sales are through the fucking roof from
• 2:47:46
  this so it worked. And so is there stocks?
• 2:47:51
  Yeah. And apparently Doja Cat is
• 2:47:55
  pissed of all insane people, so that's very funny.
• 2:47:59
  Yeah, I did see that reaction. It was funny.
• 2:48:02
  But what what's funny about that is she was like ostensibly
• 2:48:07
  somewhat on the right. She used to do 4 Chan.
• 2:48:11
  Now she's dating that fag from Stranger Things that the ladies
• 2:48:15
  on Sandwich makers live to talk about.
• 2:48:18
  And because she's dating him, she's becoming a lefty loser.
• 2:48:22
  Great. That's what that was about, is
• 2:48:25
  she's being she's being leftified by her little
• 2:48:28
  boyfriend from the Stranger Things show of.
• 2:48:31
  Course. Yeah, so fuck Joe Quinn.
• 2:48:37
  When she watches this back, she's not going to like that,
• 2:48:39
  but I don't care. She knows how I feel about that
• 2:48:43
  little bitch. Weren't weren't the ladies on on
• 2:48:47
  the salmon pickers afraid that those you can't would have the
• 2:48:50
  exact opposite? Well, not Maxine, but yes, yes,
• 2:48:58
  she that that was their dispute, actually.
• 2:49:02
  So yeah, Penn should be actually glad it's the opposite.
• 2:49:05
  Yes she she's been affected by his politics rather than the
• 2:49:09
  other way around which is a shame in my opinion because I
• 2:49:15
  liked her being a crazy sometimes saying edgy stuff
• 2:49:19
  thing. But if she's going to go full
• 2:49:20
  lefty, she's just another one. Backs.
• 2:49:25
  Oh well, there's plenty of crazy people out there for me to be
• 2:49:33
  enjoying their content so. Yep.
• 2:49:38
  And I'm not one of them because I'm not crazy enough, right of.
• 2:49:42
  Course I don't enjoy your content at all, that's why I'm
• 2:49:45
  not a part of it or. Well, I just meant that.
• 2:49:49
  We, we, we don't show. We don't show the books at all.
• 2:49:53
  By by since of the assassin. Oh my God, we legitimately have
• 2:49:59
  been on for almost 3 hours and not mentioned that you write
• 2:50:02
  books. We should all be fired Sam.
• 2:50:06
  You too. Just all of us.
• 2:50:10
  We're. The worst?
• 2:50:11
  Promo guys of all time. Well.
• 2:50:18
  Did it fall off my? Yep, this is how they can tell
• 2:50:21
  that we're total shills. It fell off.
• 2:50:23
  We forget to shill everything. It fell off my it fell off my
• 2:50:29
  desk. Hold on a SEC.
• 2:50:36
  Nice. We we lost the cripple.
• 2:50:39
  No, I, no, I'm still here. I just don't want my my green
• 2:50:49
  screen to you know? You know what's cool about this
• 2:50:56
  thing is I can still totally see my monitor now.
• 2:51:03
  Yeah, this one has full color cameras and shit, and so I can
• 2:51:10
  just bring up another. The cool thing is you can bring
• 2:51:14
  up windows like on a computer, but you just put them anywhere
• 2:51:17
  and actually you can use your hands too.
• 2:51:19
  I'm going to just snatch this and bring it over here.
• 2:51:25
  I like this thing. That's right, now I'm hosting
• 2:51:32
  the Whitfield report in within VR.
• 2:51:35
  Is that a troublemaker? I don't know, I could totally
• 2:51:44
  send the video to my computer, but that would take too long.
• 2:51:47
  Sam, did you find your fucking book that you're supposed to be
• 2:51:50
  selling? I guess not.
• 2:51:58
  Well, I'm I'm here. I am awful here.
• 2:52:04
  And I'm, I'm also in VR and oh shit, oh shit, I turned.
• 2:52:13
  I can't see. I can't see no more.
• 2:52:17
  Oh, hashtag virtual giant. No, no, I put the the pass
• 2:52:22
  through on and then I turned it off.
• 2:52:26
  Now I can see. Yeah, it's cool too, because you
• 2:52:35
  can just use your hands. You don't want to use the
• 2:52:37
  controls, so. I can just take these windows.
• 2:52:50
  You know what's cool is that right now what I'm doing here,
• 2:53:00
  Rumble, I'm going to, I'm going to be watching the stream in
• 2:53:07
  virtual reality while I'm on the stream.
• 2:53:10
  Nice Inception Max. OK, let's find it baby.
• 2:53:33
  What the fuck is the channel name?
• 2:53:35
  The. Whitfield Report.
• 2:53:39
  Live, right. Yeah, There it is.
• 2:53:53
  Right there. Whoa.
• 2:53:58
  I am looking at myself. How do we lose?
• 2:54:02
  No, I'm not because there's an ad.
• 2:54:12
  Just $300. A day these snot nosed kids.
• 2:54:15
  No, I'm not because there's a cat.
• 2:54:18
  Oh, now it's. Loud.
• 2:54:21
  Whoa, this is trippy. Being in VR watching myself
• 2:54:32
  stream the show. Is Sam back yet?
• 2:54:35
  I am desperately filling for time.
• 2:54:37
  What happened? So I was just, I was just
• 2:54:45
  looking something up real quick and apparently the Final Fantasy
• 2:54:52
  set from the Gathering is the best selling of all time in a
• 2:54:55
  single fucking day. Gross.
• 2:54:59
  Yep, I hate it. Magic the Gathering is so
• 2:55:04
  fucking dead. Yep.
• 2:55:07
  Well it's been dead for like 5 years now, but that's beside the
• 2:55:10
  point. But now it's even more dead.
• 2:55:16
  I it died for me in 8th grade so.
• 2:55:23
  It it, it died for me finally completely during the Magic 30
• 2:55:29
  set. I was I was kind of holding out
• 2:55:33
  out hope until then, but they completely fucked the magic 30
• 2:55:36
  set so I will never talk to another another project ever
• 2:55:39
  again. I still have the majority of a
• 2:55:47
  lot of my cards. The hand controls were so much.
• 2:55:57
  Better. Than they were on the two.
• 2:56:01
  I'm just, if you see me acting goofy, I'm literally just
• 2:56:05
  dragging a window around and I'm going to put it right there.
• 2:56:10
  Bring a window up over here so I can watch myself right here.
• 2:56:14
  I'm not always goofy. I got my monitor for the actual
• 2:56:20
  monitor I can see in front of me and then I got the rumble stream
• 2:56:24
  up on here bro. I think I could join from within
• 2:56:31
  the headset a stream. We're going to have to try that
• 2:56:34
  sometime because that. 'D be funny.
• 2:56:36
  Yeah, I think rumble has a has like AVR app or something, but
• 2:56:44
  no. No, it's because I have a mic
• 2:56:48
  and a camera built in and it will recognize it.
• 2:56:50
  I'll just join the Rumble studio through the headset.
• 2:56:54
  Oh, fun. Right.
• 2:56:56
  So that I could, because that was the way I was saying, Sam,
• 2:56:58
  you see what I'm doing right here is I'm just dragging a
• 2:57:01
  window. It's like a window, a computer
• 2:57:03
  monitor window. I can bring up like as many as I
• 2:57:05
  want. I can make it bigger.
• 2:57:08
  I I kind of figured that's what you're doing instead of just.
• 2:57:14
  From from here, I'm literally I'm looking at you and me in VR
• 2:57:19
  right now. I have us up on the the screen.
• 2:57:23
  Awesome. It's kind of wild, I'm not going
• 2:57:28
  to lie. Speaking of things that.
• 2:57:31
  You I want to see your book in VR, Sam.
• 2:57:35
  Speaking of, since the Assassin Week 2 came out last week pretty
• 2:57:45
  good, and Max is trying to get his hand on on the book right
• 2:57:51
  now. But Max, you can get your hand
• 2:57:55
  on the actual book by going to Amazon.com and purchasing a a
• 2:58:03
  paperback copy guaranteed to make you more manly, even more
• 2:58:10
  so than you already are. The hand tracking actually
• 2:58:14
  tracks me making a middle finger.
• 2:58:16
  This is a fucking technological miracle.
• 2:58:20
  Sorry, Sam. Well, you know, if you didn't
• 2:58:23
  want to buy the book you you just had.
• 2:58:26
  Anything rude about it Max? Oh, I was just trying to because
• 2:58:31
  it it shows the outline of your hand for the hand tracking and I
• 2:58:36
  was like, there's no way this works.
• 2:58:38
  It works perfect. I'll have to take a screenshot
• 2:58:43
  so you see what I mean. Yeah, no, I, I.
• 2:58:46
  I wasn't flipping off you, I was flipping off those assholes that
• 2:58:50
  haven't considered picking up a Sam Whitfield book yet.
• 2:58:54
  Is that better? Yeah, yes, I, yes, I just had to
• 2:58:59
  make I and I just had to make the joke now.
• 2:59:02
  We're above my head. You are this.
• 2:59:09
  This looks really funny. Just you know from the wow they
• 2:59:21
  they people are not wrong when they say that VR looks weird
• 2:59:25
  from the outer side. It really does.
• 2:59:28
  Inside. Well, especially when it's like
• 2:59:31
  it's literally just take it and now I've stretched our monitor
• 2:59:37
  out and now we're a big screen. I can imagine like you're your.
• 2:59:40
  Head Sam is 70 feet tall right now.
• 2:59:43
  I just want you to know. Based.
• 2:59:52
  Yeah, I vRS VR is like pretty cool from the I did try and I
• 3:00:03
  did try one of those at Best Buy.
• 3:00:06
  Pretty nice, pretty nice. Yeah, you know.
• 3:00:16
  Not as not as heavy as I thought it would be either.
• 3:00:20
  This one's a lot lighter than the 2.
• 3:00:22
  The 2 was a little heavy. Yeah.
• 3:00:26
  But the big thing is, is the strap that they put by default
• 3:00:31
  kind of sucks. And then they have an elite
• 3:00:34
  strap that's expensive, but there's third party straps that
• 3:00:38
  are better. I'm going to pick up one of
• 3:00:41
  them. And the reason what it is, is
• 3:00:42
  they put the weight on the top of your head instead of the
• 3:00:45
  back, and that makes all the difference.
• 3:00:48
  Yeah. When it's when it's when it's
• 3:00:51
  pulling from back here, it feels like it's coming down on the
• 3:00:55
  front. But if you get one where it's
• 3:00:58
  like seated on top of your head it the weight is more even.
• 3:01:03
  Right. That is one of the biggest
• 3:01:05
  problems though is they are a little bulky and heavy.
• 3:01:08
  But yeah, since the Cynthia has an oh, maybe Max can read this
• 3:01:15
  in virtual reality. That might make me sick.
• 3:01:19
  A whole novel. Well, yeah, I'll, I'll read that
• 3:01:28
  on the. Toilet like a normal person.
• 3:01:31
  Well, that. Well, that's exactly, well, you.
• 3:01:35
  Well, you'd read Cynthia the Assassin everywhere, in the
• 3:01:39
  bathroom and in the in the. Oh no, I only read Whitfield
• 3:01:43
  novels. They're all next to my toilet.
• 3:01:48
  That's that's the class. Where I get my business done?
• 3:01:51
  Yeah. The funny part is, is you can
• 3:01:58
  ask Backseat and she'll tell you yes, your books are next to my
• 3:02:02
  toilet. But not but.
• 3:02:06
  But folks, it's not because it's not because they're shitty at
• 3:02:09
  all. No.
• 3:02:11
  Quite the quite the opposite. It's because it's because that's
• 3:02:17
  where that's where he has time to read.
• 3:02:21
  That's right. That's, you know, that's sitting
• 3:02:24
  in my business chair. I got some time.
• 3:02:30
  So. Dropping off the old kids that
• 3:02:34
  they pull, you know? And and for and for the audience
• 3:02:37
  who were saying, Oh my God, he's such a dad, Yes, he literally
• 3:02:42
  is. Yeah, here's a fun VR story for
• 3:02:48
  you, Sam. I'm sitting here.
• 3:02:50
  I'm playing that music game I was talking about dancing along.
• 3:02:53
  My son walks down. I didn't even know he was here.
• 3:02:56
  He walks around me, he sits down.
• 3:02:58
  He watches me for a couple songs and then just out of nowhere he
• 3:03:02
  says, dad, you're corny, and then leaves.
• 3:03:08
  I mean, is the kid wrong? Yes.
• 3:03:18
  He said he says this. He laughs.
• 3:03:22
  No, see, I'm cool. He was just confused.
• 3:03:26
  He's it's AC word there's. A Oh, none of us are cool.
• 3:03:30
  Next. Well, speak for yourself.
• 3:03:35
  Yeah. I just beat up an entire mosh
• 3:03:38
  pit two weeks ago. I feel pretty cool.
• 3:03:40
  Yeah, more. Yeah, more.
• 3:03:41
  Yeah. Yeah, more.
• 3:03:43
  Speak for yourself, Sir. And Sam?
• 3:03:51
  Wait, you didn't. You didn't beat me.
• 3:03:53
  You said you beat him an entire March pit.
• 3:03:55
  I was going to say, you didn't beat me up at all.
• 3:04:00
  Well, you weren't in the pit. No.
• 3:04:04
  You're like a bitch. Get the fuck you the pit.
• 3:04:07
  No, that, no, that was my, that was my cousin Dave.
• 3:04:11
  Actually, though, Sam in the pit would make it not as fun because
• 3:04:14
  nobody would be trying to tip his wheelchair over or nothing,
• 3:04:17
  and we'd all be like, behaved so.
• 3:04:20
  Fact. I I.
• 3:04:22
  And you couldn't you, you couldn't do crawling in the pit
• 3:04:24
  because you'd get stepped on. Oh yeah.
• 3:04:28
  However, I think you would make an excellent crowd surfer.
• 3:04:34
  Oh, for sure, definitely. Crowd Crowd surfing in the
• 3:04:36
  wheelchair is fun. Yeah.
• 3:04:40
  You just got to, you just got to accept people are going to touch
• 3:04:43
  your Dick. He meant like that.
• 3:04:48
  Well, that's. Well, they might not be women.
• 3:04:52
  That doesn't mean anything. He meant like it.
• 3:04:55
  Well, I I wouldn't, I wouldn't say I'd like it, but I would be
• 3:04:59
  like, yeah, it's probably less invasive than the TSA.
• 3:05:04
  You, you. You wouldn't like it, but what?
• 3:05:06
  But you wouldn't necessarily hate it either.
• 3:05:09
  I, I, I, I kid in that way, but man, every girl, every single
• 3:05:15
  girl that crowd surfs. And look, I've banned a lot of
• 3:05:18
  shows. I've worked a lot of shows.
• 3:05:19
  I'm telling you from experience, every single one gets at the
• 3:05:23
  very least molested. Yep.
• 3:05:28
  Don't If you're a If you're a woman and you want to go crowd
• 3:05:31
  surfing, you're going to have to come to grips with the fact that
• 3:05:35
  people are going to grab you inappropriately and probably
• 3:05:37
  stick a finger where it doesn't belong.
• 3:05:40
  Unfortunately, facts. So I highly recommend ladies
• 3:05:44
  that you don't unless you're willing, unless you're into
• 3:05:47
  that, I guess. I don't know.
• 3:05:51
  Again, she'll probably watch tonight, then then the TSA.
• 3:05:54
  Well, I've had to tell, I've had to tell women this and then they
• 3:05:57
  go and do it like it's like, Hey, if you go up because
• 3:06:00
  because they ask a big guy to throw them up, right?
• 3:06:04
  And I'm like, look, if you go up, people are going to sexually
• 3:06:09
  abuse you. Are you OK with that?
• 3:06:12
  And they're all like. Haha.
• 3:06:13
  And then they come back crying. Right, right, right.
• 3:06:17
  They're shocked. Yeah, because they think, oh,
• 3:06:20
  some guy might like, you know, rub up against my breath.
• 3:06:25
  No, they're going to like they do shit.
• 3:06:28
  They're going. To fall on taking, take
• 3:06:30
  advantage. Yeah.
• 3:06:32
  The worst thing somebody could do when you're above them
• 3:06:35
  grabbing you with their hand, they're going to do it.
• 3:06:38
  Yeah, not, Yeah not not. Especially if you're an
• 3:06:41
  attractive girl. Facts.
• 3:06:44
  And, and is that fair? No, it's not fair that
• 3:06:47
  attractive girls can't crowd surf.
• 3:06:49
  But it's just reality. They can, but they're going to
• 3:06:55
  get groped and no one will be There won't be anybody.
• 3:06:58
  You won't be able to point to a guy and say he did it.
• 3:07:02
  That's the problem. It's.
• 3:07:04
  Like they all did it. They will just get away with it,
• 3:07:07
  even if it's only one guy out of the whole crowd.
• 3:07:12
  That's why I highly recommend women stay away from the crowd
• 3:07:15
  surf because a lot of times women will be like, well, I
• 3:07:17
  don't want to get in the pit, but crowd surfing seems fun.
• 3:07:20
  And it's like crowd surfing is worse for you in the pit.
• 3:07:24
  You might get knocked down and then some big guy's going to
• 3:07:27
  feel like an asshole as he picks you up.
• 3:07:30
  Crowd surfing. You're going to get molested.
• 3:07:35
  Yeah, yeah. Not every.
• 3:07:37
  I got away with crowd surfing because I'm a dude in a
• 3:07:39
  wheelchair. I crowd surfed one time and they
• 3:07:44
  dropped me. That's because you're a giant.
• 3:07:49
  I know. Was that the Gathering of the
• 3:07:53
  Juggalos 2002? And they just, no, they held me
• 3:07:57
  up for a while and then they kind of pushed me towards where
• 3:08:00
  there was a big empty patch. Oh geez.
• 3:08:03
  And just drop me right on my back of my head.
• 3:08:07
  Well, to be fair, they probably they picked you up and probably
• 3:08:10
  all, they probably all felt their backs like.
• 3:08:14
  I really didn't have a choice in the matter because I had come
• 3:08:17
  off the stage. Oh yeah, that that.
• 3:08:23
  I wasn't really trying to crowd surf.
• 3:08:26
  It's just you ever been on stage at a like a crazy ass concert?
• 3:08:36
  I've been to crazy as concerts but not on stage.
• 3:08:40
  No, I. Don't know.
• 3:08:42
  There's just something about the idea of like, oh, I could do it.
• 3:08:46
  I could just jump and then you do it.
• 3:08:49
  And it was cool up until they dropped me.
• 3:08:53
  And no, they didn't drop me because I was too heavy.
• 3:08:55
  They just kind of pushed me towards an area where no one was
• 3:08:57
  going to hold me. Man, I really have not utilized
• 3:09:00
  my crippled privilege to the whole.
• 3:09:03
  No, you haven't, Sammy. Seriously, you've not been on
• 3:09:06
  stage at any of these concerts. You've been to how we used to
• 3:09:11
  bring crippled guys back. There's a guy out in the crowd
• 3:09:16
  in a wheelchair. Yo-yo, come here, come here,
• 3:09:17
  come here. Do I need to give you a crash
• 3:09:20
  course there, Sammy? Seriously.
• 3:09:22
  Probably, although I did talk to yeah, I can't say I know so.
• 3:09:32
  Seriously, we said we would see a guy like you and we would be
• 3:09:35
  like, should he be out in? You're going to concerts with a
• 3:09:39
  sign seating, aren't you? That's why.
• 3:09:41
  Yeah. OK, never mind.
• 3:09:44
  Boo. Boo that.
• 3:09:50
  I thought you're going to like a real concert.
• 3:09:57
  As in like. As in like no like general
• 3:10:01
  admission. Oh yeah.
• 3:10:06
  Well, science seeding to me is not a concert.
• 3:10:08
  Well, no, I, I, well, no, I've I've been to general admission
• 3:10:11
  call in touch with my with my friends too.
• 3:10:14
  But yeah, we've just never for like, local.
• 3:10:18
  Band, I would like I and every security guy I know would be
• 3:10:23
  like yo see the guy in the wheelchair, get him back here.
• 3:10:28
  Do you know how good PR that like there's benefit to us doing
• 3:10:32
  that. It's not just to be nice to you.
• 3:10:34
  Facts. It helps it's a bit.
• 3:10:38
  It's a win win because we'll be nice to you and you'll get to
• 3:10:42
  meet the band and all that shit. But it's not just purely because
• 3:10:46
  we're such nice guys. It's one, if you get hurt out
• 3:10:50
  there, we're in a lot of trouble because you might sue.
• 3:10:55
  Two, you're not going to sue if you're friendly with the whole
• 3:11:00
  band. Well, I agree.
• 3:11:03
  You're not going to have any reason to sue if you're
• 3:11:06
  backstage because you're we're keeping you safe from the.
• 3:11:09
  Crowd. Because you're talking to the
• 3:11:11
  band after the after the fact. And a hottie.
• 3:11:14
  And then and then the the capper on it all is they take a picture
• 3:11:18
  with you and they look good. And sometimes you get merch.
• 3:11:23
  Yeah, free merch. Oh yeah, dude, a young crippled
• 3:11:26
  guy at a concert. We're literally going to pull
• 3:11:28
  him back. Oh, for sure.
• 3:11:31
  I can. How nobody did that for you
• 3:11:34
  blows my mind, Sam. I I don't say this a lot, but
• 3:11:39
  with the amount of science stuff I've got simply because I'm a
• 3:11:44
  crippled guy that goes to concerts.
• 3:11:50
  The crippled guy who goes to concerts, particularly like rock
• 3:11:54
  concerts, rap like that guy is looked at like a legend.
• 3:12:01
  Yeah, again, I'm going to have to learn you something, Sammy.
• 3:12:04
  Well, well, I'll have. To come visit, I'll have to come
• 3:12:07
  visit you so. We're going to have to find a
• 3:12:12
  fucking concert that's somewhere in the middle of me and you,
• 3:12:15
  Morton. Hit it up one time.
• 3:12:17
  Fax. Something like Springfield, Mass
• 3:12:22
  or something like that. Something like that.
• 3:12:24
  Probably something like on the border or something.
• 3:12:29
  Well, because Connecticut's way far South of you.
• 3:12:31
  So the only shows are probably like Western Mass and like New
• 3:12:37
  York City. But I don't think either one of
• 3:12:39
  us wants to go there. Yeah, no.
• 3:12:41
  No, especially not with. I don't want to go there now
• 3:12:45
  with Madami or whatever the hell is.
• 3:12:48
  Not for well, I wouldn't want to go there anytime for a concert.
• 3:12:52
  And I think Morton knows why. Yep.
• 3:12:55
  Yeah, it's just. The last time I was in New York
• 3:12:59
  City for anything like a gathering that not even
• 3:13:02
  necessarily a concert was a fucking 20.
• 3:13:07
  Sorry, 2003 or 2004 Magic tournament?
• 3:13:12
  I have never been outside of a car in New York City.
• 3:13:18
  I have no intention to ever. I can't say I blame you.
• 3:13:22
  Yeah, I dude, I like if I'm going to a big city that I like,
• 3:13:26
  I'm going to Boston or Providence or fucking Bangor ME.
• 3:13:32
  Just the city is gross, man. I I don't like it.
• 3:13:38
  I don't want to go anywhere near.
• 3:13:39
  I don't even like to go to Connecticut cuz it feels like
• 3:13:41
  part of New York City. That is, yeah, I can't.
• 3:13:51
  I haven't been to, I haven't been to Connecticut in a long
• 3:13:54
  time, but and. Also, I would have the problem
• 3:13:59
  in New York City of they would know I'm a Masshole immediately.
• 3:14:05
  Yeah. And so nobody can bring up
• 3:14:09
  sports. Which is gay, but.
• 3:14:16
  Well, no, it's not. Gay is We'll fight like you.
• 3:14:19
  Don't know much about New York, Boston.
• 3:14:22
  No, no, no, I, I, no, I, I know, I know that it'll, I know that
• 3:14:26
  it'll it'll break out into a fight, which to me is, which is
• 3:14:29
  fucking. Yeah, that's it's good.
• 3:14:32
  We should. It's healthy.
• 3:14:38
  I mean, how could you legitimately be a fan of the
• 3:14:41
  Yankees like the Yankees? It's in the name, man.
• 3:14:47
  Well, you know, I that's always how that's what I was asked the
• 3:14:53
  the Raiders fans. So I I get it any who though in.
• 3:15:00
  New York City, we just generally butt heads.
• 3:15:05
  It's not even the sport so much. It's a different worldview.
• 3:15:08
  Yeah. 'Cause I actually don't care so
• 3:15:12
  much about the sports, I just do it to piss off New Yorkers,
• 3:15:15
  'cause they seem to get very upset by it.
• 3:15:19
  Like I haven't watched the sports ball game in years of any
• 3:15:23
  kind. I don't watch baseball, I don't
• 3:15:27
  watch football, I don't watch basketball.
• 3:15:29
  I'll occasionally catch a hockey game, that's about it.
• 3:15:35
  Boxing, I watch lots of that. But that's not like regional
• 3:15:39
  team, right? That's individuals.
• 3:15:43
  Same with UFC. So I don't get into the the
• 3:15:47
  sports tribalism, but I do it because it makes New Yorkers
• 3:15:51
  very upset. Because you're a troll.
• 3:15:55
  Yes, well, not that is very much being a Massachusetts.
• 3:16:00
  We we. We already knew that, though.
• 3:16:03
  I don't know if you saw when we did, we showed the clips of
• 3:16:07
  Power Man 5000. But if you didn't know, Spider
• 3:16:11
  One, the singer Rob Zombie's brother and Rob Zombie grew up
• 3:16:14
  in Haverhill. This is Mass.
• 3:16:19
  And so he said one of the clips, we have it.
• 3:16:23
  I'll find the video if you want to see.
• 3:16:25
  If you didn't see it, he says, you know, people don't
• 3:16:28
  understand, you know, Massachusetts.
• 3:16:31
  What's the motto? And like, he was setting up his
• 3:16:34
  punchline, but he was in Massachusetts.
• 3:16:35
  So everybody there just said fuck you because yeah, welcome
• 3:16:40
  to Massachusetts, Go fuck yourself.
• 3:16:46
  That is our mentality. Welcome to Massachusetts.
• 3:16:49
  Fuck you. He's right.
• 3:16:54
  That is. And it's and it's evidenced by
• 3:16:57
  the fact that there's like 10 people that yelled it before he
• 3:17:00
  even got to the punchline. That is hilarious.
• 3:17:06
  Sports. Well, it's sports as matters.
• 3:17:08
  If it's fuck you, You like the Yankees?
• 3:17:11
  Oh yeah, I love me some baseball.
• 3:17:18
  Who plays on the team now? I don't even know.
• 3:17:23
  I. Watched the Red Sox play
• 3:17:25
  baseball in 20 years, Sam. I don't know.
• 3:17:28
  I don't know either. I don't think I've watched a
• 3:17:31
  baseball game in 20 years, unless you count Little League.
• 3:17:37
  It's bad. It's been five years since I've
• 3:17:41
  watched baseball. When's the last time Tom Brady
• 3:17:46
  won a Super Bowl in New England? That's the last time I watched
• 3:17:49
  football in New England. Not in Tampa, No, because why
• 3:17:57
  would I watch a team? Like, why would I watch that
• 3:18:00
  team just for Tom Brady? Because Brady's your guy.
• 3:18:05
  No, the Patriots are my guy. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:18:12
  Well, well, well, that's because that's because you're a true New
• 3:18:16
  Englander. I do know.
• 3:18:18
  I do know. Were my guy before Tom Brady.
• 3:18:21
  Right, right. Exactly.
• 3:18:25
  When they sucked. Yeah.
• 3:18:28
  And I and I and I can, I can appreciate you for that.
• 3:18:33
  Also worked at the stadium for several years and you know,
• 3:18:38
  yeah, I live literally near Foxborough.
• 3:18:42
  Yeah. That's why I went to the at that
• 3:18:46
  concert was at the stadium. It just was at the they built
• 3:18:51
  this like mall right next to Gillette Stadium and that's
• 3:18:54
  where it was. Yeah.
• 3:18:58
  So yeah, it's a little like, I think I started working at the
• 3:19:03
  Patriot organization when I was like 15.
• 3:19:08
  So I'm not just, you know, it's not just that I'm from New
• 3:19:10
  England. I'm like I was a I'm an alumni
• 3:19:13
  of the organization's security force.
• 3:19:17
  Yeah, did. Did you ever get like free or
• 3:19:19
  discounted tickets for? I mean I didn't need tickets
• 3:19:25
  because I was working the games. Why would like a ticket would
• 3:19:32
  give me a seat? I wasn't sitting watching a
• 3:19:36
  game, I was working. Right.
• 3:19:40
  So I was at all those, every home game, the for Tom Brady's
• 3:19:44
  first Super Bowl win, I was there.
• 3:19:47
  The Snow Bowl, all that. Shit, nice.
• 3:19:50
  When Bledsoe went down, people were like, Oh no, Drew Bledsoe,
• 3:19:54
  that's our main quarterback. Who's this Tom Brady guy?
• 3:19:57
  But see, I liked I watched college ball, so I knew Brady at
• 3:20:01
  Michigan was a fucking piece. What you talked about.
• 3:20:04
  Yeah. And they were like, Oh no, we're
• 3:20:06
  screwed. And then he comes and he wins
• 3:20:08
  the whole Super Bowl. But I was there.
• 3:20:10
  I was there through all those games.
• 3:20:12
  You know, you can't watch every bit of it.
• 3:20:14
  Like I said, I'm not sitting down watching a game.
• 3:20:16
  I'm working. But you get to watch enough of
• 3:20:18
  it. So if you're asking about free
• 3:20:20
  tickets, no, But I did get paid to be at those games.
• 3:20:25
  Well shit, that's almost better than.
• 3:20:29
  Eh, sometimes I miss important things, but I did get to see
• 3:20:35
  that snow kick in the tuck rule and all that shit.
• 3:20:40
  So well. Well, no, my, my, my stepdad,
• 3:20:43
  when he was in his, when he was a kid and even into his teens,
• 3:20:50
  he, he delivered papers for the the Denver Post.
• 3:20:56
  So he got like season tickets to the Broncos.
• 3:21:00
  Nice. So that was that was cool.
• 3:21:07
  Well, you know, the downside was obviously I didn't see any away
• 3:21:12
  games because. Right.
• 3:21:14
  There, But I did see that whole season's home games, like even
• 3:21:18
  before Bledsoe got hurt. You know, it's The thing is
• 3:21:21
  Bledsoe got us to the playoffs to begin with.
• 3:21:23
  People shit on him and it's like, but no, I, I'll tell you
• 3:21:28
  what, I haven't watched the NFL in years because during that Tom
• 3:21:31
  Brady Super Bowl, I was talking about at the halftime show, who
• 3:21:36
  was the guy that started talking about gun control.
• 3:21:41
  He started lecturing about gun control at a halftime Super Bowl
• 3:21:45
  show. And I've never turned the NFL
• 3:21:47
  back on since. And by the way, that was before
• 3:21:49
  the kneeling for the anthem shit and everything.
• 3:21:51
  They started talking about gun control and I was out.
• 3:21:54
  Right. Yeah, I I don't remember who it
• 3:21:57
  was either. I do remember that.
• 3:22:00
  I do remember, remember that. So.
• 3:22:03
  The crazy part is that same game has another big moment for me is
• 3:22:07
  because that game, the last Tom Brady Super Bowl in New England,
• 3:22:11
  was when my son took his first steps.
• 3:22:15
  That's how long ago it was. That's that's pretty like
• 3:22:22
  wholesome moment though. Yeah, well, and hey, he's met,
• 3:22:26
  he's met plenty of like Super Bowl ring winning fucking
• 3:22:31
  players and stuff. So that's cool.
• 3:22:34
  Look, one thing to say about the Patriots organization is that
• 3:22:38
  the players absolutely embed themselves within this
• 3:22:41
  community. They each Little League, they
• 3:22:44
  fucking, they're all over the place.
• 3:22:46
  If you're a New England Patriot, you you're going to be active in
• 3:22:50
  the community and you have a a set of standards to live up to
• 3:22:53
  as well, especially in the wake of what happened with Aaron
• 3:22:56
  Hernandez. Yeah.
• 3:23:00
  They don't let you have as much free time anymore because what
• 3:23:02
  did he do with his free time? He killed somebody.
• 3:23:06
  Yep. Yeah.
• 3:23:08
  Patriots organization is known to be like really old school and
• 3:23:12
  kind of harsh. We like it that way.
• 3:23:17
  Well, why? You know, it gives guys
• 3:23:20
  something to do, you know, in the off.
• 3:23:25
  Yeah. And so you go down and, you
• 3:23:27
  know, there's a guy coach in the little little mini Football
• 3:23:30
  League and all that. And they're like, hey, you know,
• 3:23:34
  they'll show they. My son has seen so many Super
• 3:23:36
  Bowl rings at this point. Which by the way, I mean, I
• 3:23:42
  think what I I personally think like what are we like I'm all
• 3:23:45
  for too. Yeah, just because like I
• 3:23:50
  couldn't write parts as pay paid and like that is one thing I
• 3:23:56
  think people will kind of miss misunderstand if people think
• 3:23:59
  that I'm like people think that like because I'm pro Boy Scouts,
• 3:24:04
  like I'm anti what a league or something and I don't know where
• 3:24:07
  people get the idea that's. Insane.
• 3:24:09
  I did both at the same time. Right.
• 3:24:14
  That's like, normal to do both because like Boy Scouts, I mean,
• 3:24:18
  it's not even every week you'd be at a meeting.
• 3:24:23
  Baseball season's only a couple of months like.
• 3:24:25
  Right. Yeah, those two things don't
• 3:24:29
  conflate. They don't, they don't really
• 3:24:31
  clash at all. Yeah, no.
• 3:24:35
  I guess it's more of a sentimental thing.
• 3:24:36
  You like, you got to pick your side and it's like, well, what
• 3:24:39
  if I did both? Right, that's not possible, man.
• 3:24:45
  Although nowadays I'm not picking the Boy Scouts because
• 3:24:48
  they're not even the boy. But that's well.
• 3:24:50
  We've been over that. All three of us being scouts had
• 3:24:53
  some fucking common people. Want to know what we have to say
• 3:24:56
  about the modern scouts? There's a whole episode about
• 3:24:59
  it. Oh, yeah.
• 3:25:00
  My, my, my only point. And I think to be fair, I think
• 3:25:04
  this might be where people, you know, are maybe confusing.
• 3:25:09
  My only point was that Boy Scouts gave me an opportunity
• 3:25:14
  that I that I wouldn't have had because there was any way I
• 3:25:19
  could like, physically participate in like little,
• 3:25:23
  little way. Right, the most you could do is
• 3:25:26
  play t-ball and take swings from your chair.
• 3:25:29
  And right doesn't sound very fun.
• 3:25:32
  In fact, it sounds like it makes you more of a spectacle.
• 3:25:34
  And and and be patronized as fuck.
• 3:25:37
  Right. Whereas the Boy Scouts, you're
• 3:25:39
  going to do shit you can actually do and not be like
• 3:25:42
  looked at like a fucking weirdo. Yeah, or.
• 3:25:45
  Especially because the scouts code like they have to treat you
• 3:25:49
  like everybody else. Right.
• 3:25:50
  Or or get like or get like sympathy, you know.
• 3:25:55
  Yeah. Because again, going back to the
• 3:25:58
  whole patronizing thing, because that can.
• 3:26:01
  Well, that's. The sympathy that that was
• 3:26:04
  always bullshit. It's, it's awful, right?
• 3:26:07
  Because like they think they're being nice by doing that, but
• 3:26:11
  what it is, is like, you're just trying.
• 3:26:13
  I'm trying to do an activity that's not like I'm looking for
• 3:26:19
  sympathy at all. It's the opposite.
• 3:26:22
  And then when people do that, I could see that being.
• 3:26:24
  I want to be one one of the guys that is that's what I want.
• 3:26:28
  That's right. Yeah.
• 3:26:31
  See, I'd do something like I'd say, all right, you could be the
• 3:26:33
  bat manager. So like, make you part of the
• 3:26:36
  fucking team, but not in a way that's humiliating or degrading.
• 3:26:40
  Yes, right. Oh, you're the, you're the, you
• 3:26:44
  know, the substitutions coach or whatever, you know.
• 3:26:49
  Yeah. But Boy Scouts is definitely
• 3:26:51
  much more you could participate in.
• 3:26:52
  I mean, that's obvious. Well, I mean it.
• 3:26:54
  It was, Yeah. So.
• 3:26:59
  Although I don't expect you to be playing any peewee football
• 3:27:02
  either, so. No, although, although that
• 3:27:07
  although that would. Be funny, be just like clothes
• 3:27:10
  lining people in my and. The we're going to make you.
• 3:27:15
  We're going to make you an offensive lineman.
• 3:27:17
  So you just get rolled over on every play.
• 3:27:20
  Yeah, let's make Sam the center. He's like how do I even hike
• 3:27:27
  this? Shit.
• 3:27:29
  Yes, more, more and I more. And I could destroy a few people
• 3:27:32
  that way, probably. No way.
• 3:27:38
  No way. I got the perfect position for
• 3:27:40
  you, Sam. You're the punter.
• 3:27:45
  Oh. I think, I actually think to
• 3:27:47
  some degree you could do a punt though.
• 3:27:51
  I mean, I can't, I can't necessarily kick, but yeah, we
• 3:27:56
  could find out another way to do it.
• 3:27:58
  Well, you could hit it with your knee, you could volleyball it
• 3:28:01
  up, you know. Yeah, that is true.
• 3:28:05
  Hey, if we're talking pee wee foot, it's not exactly NFL rules
• 3:28:09
  here. Right.
• 3:28:13
  You in the NFL? Well, that would be very funny,
• 3:28:16
  but you would die. Yeah, me and me and the NFL
• 3:28:20
  would be. Funny for a whole host of Yeah.
• 3:28:25
  Until you get run over by 5 giant 400 LB men and and it's
• 3:28:29
  not as funny. No, it would still be funny, but
• 3:28:34
  I would feel bad for laughing kind of funny.
• 3:28:36
  No, you wouldn't. I mean, he might for a little.
• 3:28:42
  Bit hands, I mean. Depending on how how many 4
• 3:28:48
  cartwheels we did. That's right, depending on how
• 3:28:53
  far you get launched it was how funny it'll be.
• 3:28:57
  Yeah. Or you just get.
• 3:29:00
  I can picture a scenario where you're just squished by two
• 3:29:04
  opposing teams as well. That might be funny.
• 3:29:07
  Yeah. That that, that would that that
• 3:29:08
  would. Pancake, Pancake Sam.
• 3:29:13
  Well. I still think like the evil
• 3:29:17
  Knievel Sam is like the best Sam spin off where we put him in a
• 3:29:21
  helmet and have him jump over crazy shit in a wheelchair.
• 3:29:28
  Well, I suddenly have the evil Knievel.
• 3:29:29
  I I suddenly have the mustache to do evil Knievel stuff.
• 3:29:34
  That's right. So all we need is to get you a
• 3:29:36
  chair with some like jet engines on it, you know, nitrous is it?
• 3:29:47
  Do you think it's possible that we could have a powered enough
• 3:29:50
  power chair that you could do a loop de loop?
• 3:29:53
  We we need that that that Mythbusters scientists need to
• 3:29:58
  make it up. Yes, yeah.
• 3:30:03
  Because a wheelchair loop de loop would be the baddest ass
• 3:30:06
  thing you could possibly do if you're in a wheelchair.
• 3:30:09
  I think we, we, we could get Steve to engineer something like
• 3:30:13
  that. Yeah, yes.
• 3:30:16
  OK, we're going to have to ask. Yeah, we're going to have to ask
• 3:30:19
  our engineering team if it's possible to get Sam in a chair
• 3:30:24
  going fast enough that he can do a loop de loop without falling,
• 3:30:32
  See, because there's a lot more weight at play with those chairs
• 3:30:36
  and the size of them as opposed to like a bike or something.
• 3:30:39
  Right. But I think it could be done.
• 3:30:41
  But I think you'd have to be going really fucking fast.
• 3:30:47
  It could be. It could be done.
• 3:30:49
  We'll get you. Oh my God, we'll get you one of
• 3:30:51
  those like Special Olympics wheelchairs.
• 3:30:56
  Yeah. One of those sports chairs.
• 3:30:59
  Yeah, the sports ones and then and put an engine on it and a
• 3:31:07
  parachute because you're going to need a parachute like that's.
• 3:31:10
  Well, yeah, that, that, that for sure.
• 3:31:14
  Safety first as we launch Sam off a loop de loop.
• 3:31:20
  And then and then. They better never give us a
• 3:31:22
  budget, Sam, because you're in trouble.
• 3:31:25
  Well I mean I mean March coming along for the loop de loop too.
• 3:31:30
  Who do you think is is the crash dummy to make sure it's?
• 3:31:33
  Safe for you? Well, you exactly.
• 3:31:38
  I'm a build a loop the loop and Mort's not going to try it.
• 3:31:42
  Like, Mort's not going to be the goddamn crash dummy.
• 3:31:45
  Like he's not going to immediately be like me first.
• 3:31:49
  Working facts. Meet me first.
• 3:31:54
  They're going to make sure it's safe for Sam.
• 3:31:57
  This. Hold on, I'm thinking now,
• 3:32:01
  instead of just a loop de loop, what if we did a whole crippled
• 3:32:04
  American Gladiators type deal? I'm good with it.
• 3:32:08
  That would be that. Would that would actually like
• 3:32:12
  get? Famous cripples to be the
• 3:32:14
  gladiators like Ricky Berwick and and it's basically the same
• 3:32:19
  game but like wheelchair friendly.
• 3:32:22
  Oh well, well, well, Ricky Berwick would just like spider
• 3:32:26
  monkey his ass all over the place.
• 3:32:30
  Well, hey, the gladiators were the, you know, the ones you
• 3:32:33
  would be afraid of on the show, so it makes sense that we would
• 3:32:36
  have to have a Ricky who? What's another good, either
• 3:32:41
  crippled or otherwise disabled person to be a gladiator?
• 3:32:45
  Well, if he were still alive, I will say if he were still alive,
• 3:32:50
  I'd say like Krypton then. Yeah.
• 3:32:54
  Yeah, he would have been one of the like the Four Horsemen of
• 3:32:57
  the Crippled Apocalypse for sure.
• 3:32:59
  Well, partially because like, and I don't, I don't mean this
• 3:33:02
  to be like, I don't mean this to be insulting, but like he was so
• 3:33:06
  crippled that like no, that like no one, he would be like the
• 3:33:12
  guy. He would be the guy, even though
• 3:33:15
  the other cripples would be like, how does this guy do that?
• 3:33:18
  He. He he's the final boss cripple.
• 3:33:21
  Yeah, exactly. Well, I figure we could get we
• 3:33:24
  could expand it to have some dwarves and some midgets.
• 3:33:28
  A fat guy Disabled American Gladiators.
• 3:33:35
  Fat dwarf. Oh, and I could be the retard.
• 3:33:41
  Yes. This is working out swimming.
• 3:33:44
  You're the retard. Referee.
• 3:33:47
  Yeah, well, the referee's always retarded.
• 3:33:49
  So. And blind, so I can't be wearing
• 3:33:52
  glasses. So I mean PPP could be the fat
• 3:34:00
  guy. Well.
• 3:34:04
  He's got the fat down, but I'm not so sure he's a guy.
• 3:34:09
  Facts. He's.
• 3:34:11
  Got to lose a little weight so that I can tell you know,
• 3:34:15
  because these tits are huge and as far as I understand it, huge
• 3:34:23
  tits equals woman, Sam. Yes, Parsley.
• 3:34:35
  Right, so he's got to lose some weight so I can tell if they're
• 3:34:38
  tits or boobs. Right now it's just fluff.
• 3:34:44
  He looks like. What was that the the bitch
• 3:34:52
  there years ago? That the the fucking Triglypuff?
• 3:34:56
  He looks like Triglypuff. Oh my God he does.
• 3:34:59
  He does look like Triglypuff. Yeah, and that's The thing is
• 3:35:05
  Triglypuff presumably had woman boobs, but you couldn't tell
• 3:35:08
  because they were so fat. So I need to PPP.
• 3:35:13
  You got to lose at least 50 lbs before I can tell if you're a
• 3:35:16
  male or not. And even then, I mean look at
• 3:35:20
  how soft he is, he probably might still be a bitch.
• 3:35:27
  Oh, he's definitely still a bitch.
• 3:35:30
  Man, I've been picking on PPP for on this show for years.
• 3:35:33
  Huh. And he's still fat as fuck.
• 3:35:37
  You've actually picked on PPB more than you've picked on
• 3:35:40
  Birch. Well, look, Birch might.
• 3:35:43
  Be. Fat, but he's not PPP fat.
• 3:35:46
  That is true. I will get, I will give, I will
• 3:35:50
  give Mersh that so. See, me, I'm just, I just got
• 3:35:57
  like a dad physique. I'm not exactly skinny, but I
• 3:36:04
  mean look, when you're 65 and you're 230 lbs, you're never
• 3:36:09
  going to be skinny. You, well, you have lost a lot
• 3:36:13
  of weight, like even since I've known you though.
• 3:36:16
  Yeah, yeah. Like 150.
• 3:36:19
  Yeah, something like that. Hey, you know, I got real big.
• 3:36:25
  This thing is, it is there's some sort of a misconception
• 3:36:30
  about me is that I made a lot of content at the point of my life
• 3:36:35
  where I was most sedentary. And so people have this
• 3:36:39
  assumption that I'm like a computer nerd that's always
• 3:36:42
  inside. But actually I'm very active
• 3:36:44
  outdoorsy type person. That's why I'm not around on the
• 3:36:49
  fuck like motherfuckers, like where are you ever on Discord?
• 3:36:52
  It's like I'm out doing dad shit.
• 3:36:54
  I'm out exercising. I'm out.
• 3:36:57
  Most of the time I'm not sitting at my computer.
• 3:37:02
  I did that for a couple years. I got so fat that I was like
• 3:37:06
  disgusted by myself. And so I won't be.
• 3:37:08
  Doing that anymore, even for playing video games, I made sure
• 3:37:12
  the video game I'm going to play the most is something that I'm
• 3:37:14
  going to be moving. Which is pretty smart.
• 3:37:21
  I play more VR games than I play fucking flat games by a long
• 3:37:25
  shot these days. I don't get as excited for them.
• 3:37:29
  Yeah, I'm not surprised. I like being active.
• 3:37:33
  I like, you know, I run 12 miles every other day, give or take.
• 3:37:43
  Like I'm just people. People assumed I was some kind
• 3:37:48
  of like nerdy inside guy. And I'm not like, I hate that
• 3:37:51
  shit. I hate being inside all day.
• 3:37:55
  I hate being lazy. I hate not exercising.
• 3:37:58
  I grew up doing sports and martial arts and boxing and
• 3:38:02
  kickboxing and, and then as an adult I was always at concerts.
• 3:38:06
  I'm, I've always been running. Running's not actually new for
• 3:38:10
  me. I've just stepped it up the last
• 3:38:11
  couple years. Right, You're you're a nerd, but
• 3:38:14
  you're not the you're not the nerd stereotype.
• 3:38:18
  Yeah, well, and I only got to be as bad, like I say, because of
• 3:38:23
  fucking the pandemic. The pandemic fucked me because I
• 3:38:29
  couldn't. Get out on the run.
• 3:38:30
  Fucked everybody. Yeah, I mean, the pandemic
• 3:38:33
  fucked everyone so. But hey, it took two years, but
• 3:38:37
  I'm back. I'm actually closer to my
• 3:38:41
  fighting weight than I've been since I was 21 years old right
• 3:38:45
  now. Oh wow.
• 3:38:48
  It's too bad I can't get a waiver to go fucking spar in a
• 3:38:51
  boxing gym because that's all I want to do.
• 3:38:53
  You know, you'd probably be really.
• 3:38:55
  Good at that. And I was like, no.
• 3:38:56
  I'm better at the real thing. It's going to be weird.
• 3:38:58
  And she's like, what do you mean?
• 3:38:59
  And I was like, I can't. Nobody's hitting me.
• 3:39:04
  It doesn't feel like boxing if nobody's really hitting me.
• 3:39:08
  Yeah. And.
• 3:39:09
  And what people don't understand is in boxing, you're not just
• 3:39:13
  blocked. Like you're not when I say
• 3:39:15
  hitting. I don't mean my face, I mean my
• 3:39:17
  gloves. You're constantly getting.
• 3:39:20
  Punched in the arms, so not being able to feel the punches,
• 3:39:28
  I just feel. Like I'm at a.
• 3:39:30
  Disadvantage in AVR game, but it's the.
• 3:39:33
  Best I'm going to. Do.
• 3:39:35
  Because nobody will let me spar in.
• 3:39:37
  A real gym anymore? Too old Sam Ageism.
• 3:39:45
  I'd kick all them asses though. It's a darn shame, but.
• 3:39:52
  Anyway, it's it's been out. It's been more than three hours.
• 3:39:59
  And I think I'm going. To call it a night so.
• 3:40:07
  Gentlemen, it's been an honor. Morpheus.
• 3:40:11
  Sorry, we sorry you were. Out for bits and bones, you know
• 3:40:17
  this past week. But what's?
• 3:40:19
  On the docket bits and bones this week we're.
• 3:40:21
  Going to be talking. More about the Trojan horse
• 3:40:25
  video game laws. We're going to be talking about
• 3:40:29
  how the people that. Were were gung ho about straight
• 3:40:33
  game gooner games being taken off?
• 3:40:36
  Steam are now fucking pissed that LGBT gooner games are
• 3:40:40
  taking off Itch dot dot IO and we'll be talking about that
• 3:40:44
  shenanigans. Yeah, right.
• 3:40:48
  So if you're looking to see all the porn that's getting banned,
• 3:40:54
  turn in the bits. And hashtag video video game
• 3:40:59
  porn. And then sandwich makers is
• 3:41:04
  turning into VR makers from what?
• 3:41:07
  It looks so. She definitely wants to do some
• 3:41:10
  more VR. Gaming this.
• 3:41:11
  Week and we might. We might together.
• 3:41:13
  Now that we have two headsets, we might rig it up so we can
• 3:41:17
  play some multiplayer games together.
• 3:41:19
  Yeah. I mean, I don't want to speak
• 3:41:21
  for her since she's not here, but yeah, sandwich makers will
• 3:41:23
  do something, will do something on Saturday.
• 3:41:27
  So no, it's a you you. Were right, the big plan is to
• 3:41:33
  deal with VR Yeah now we're going to stream some VR games if
• 3:41:38
  you guys didn't catch the stream.
• 3:41:40
  That we did before where she played a couple of games.
• 3:41:46
  It was really. Funny.
• 3:41:48
  This is really fucking funny. Yeah, she got the shit scared
• 3:41:52
  out of her and almost. Cried multiple.
• 3:41:55
  Times I did see parts that you know, and we got more.
• 3:42:03
  I might even get her to play Half Life.
• 3:42:05
  Alex She. Has played the.
• 3:42:08
  First bit of it. And thinks she could be
• 3:42:11
  comfortable with it. However, I warned her because I
• 3:42:16
  have not finished that game because it's too intense for me.
• 3:42:22
  I don't like getting. Eaten by a Barnacle.
• 3:42:25
  Sam Yeah, I. Wouldn't.
• 3:42:31
  I wouldn't like that either. Also this shit looks so.
• 3:42:36
  Real like, because Half Life Alex isn't just with this little
• 3:42:40
  headset here with its. Limited graphics.
• 3:42:42
  It's a computer game, right? And so when I'm.
• 3:42:46
  Streaming it the graphics are like fucking 4K and shit look
• 3:42:50
  real as hell and it just gets too intense when there's zombies
• 3:42:53
  slow face crab. Face.
• 3:42:56
  Crab zombies are walking at you all slow and shit, and you'd
• 3:42:59
  think, oh, they're all slow and shit.
• 3:43:01
  This should be fine, except that it's a root.
• 3:43:04
  You know, you actually have to, you have to use the gun
• 3:43:08
  properly, which is people are so used to just going and clicking
• 3:43:15
  with their controller. But when you have to shoot stuff
• 3:43:18
  like this, it's. A little.
• 3:43:20
  It gets a little nerve. Wracking.
• 3:43:22
  Yeah, I, I imagine so. Yeah, and I'm going to make her
• 3:43:27
  play some type of horror game at some point or another.
• 3:43:30
  So that'll. Be a lot of fun.
• 3:43:31
  That that'll be. Really fun to watch her, got a
• 3:43:34
  lot of crazy crap. Playing there, I think there's
• 3:43:37
  the. Resident Evil Village in in in
• 3:43:41
  VR. Not a chance.
• 3:43:44
  Damn, I tried. Is that a Max?
• 3:43:52
  Not a chance. Or or a Maxine?
• 3:43:54
  Not a chance. Well, it's because.
• 3:43:56
  I don't own the VR of either. OK, yeah, I'm not going to go
• 3:44:01
  buy the game that I already own in.
• 3:44:03
  VR Reasonable but for her. She won't even play.
• 3:44:07
  Those games in like Resident Evil 7 or The Village?
• 3:44:10
  Or 4. She won't even play those, not
• 3:44:13
  in VR. Ah, OK.
• 3:44:15
  Especially. Seven and Seven scared the
• 3:44:18
  absolute shit out of her watching me play it, Yeah.
• 3:44:24
  Yeah, that's probably not going. To happen then yeah, 7 was fun
• 3:44:28
  fun for me. That's why why I suggested that.
• 3:44:32
  I think Half Life Alex is probably the scariest thing I
• 3:44:35
  could get her to play to be honest.
• 3:44:39
  It is pretty fucking intense. I think people don't think it
• 3:44:43
  is. Because they've never played AVR
• 3:44:44
  game like that before. But if you're in fucking half
• 3:44:47
  life, Alex. Watching it on a screen doesn't.
• 3:44:50
  Do justice to how fucking scary it gets.
• 3:44:52
  Oh, the other game that was very absolutely fantastic in VR was
• 3:44:58
  The First Son. You were sacrificed.
• 3:45:03
  Yeah, I mean, but that's more of a psychological thing than more
• 3:45:09
  than than horror, really. Both.
• 3:45:15
  Actually, all three of the. Mentioned games are shit for VR
• 3:45:20
  and and they're like the reason? Being like Resident Evil 7 the
• 3:45:26
  village. And that game all are not great
• 3:45:29
  for VR because they weren't designed for it.
• 3:45:34
  So like it's janky as shit. I know that send you a sacrifice
• 3:45:40
  is janky as shit. Oh yeah, it's not meant.
• 3:45:43
  To be AVR game. Like.
• 3:45:45
  In the version that you have to play to do it is modded.
• 3:45:49
  That sucks. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:45:51
  So as much as I think it would. Be great if they.
• 3:45:53
  Really built it. Obviously Xbox doesn't give a
• 3:45:56
  fuck about VR at this point even though they made an.
• 3:46:00
  Xbox branded. Quest headset.
• 3:46:04
  They don't seem to have any interest in VR.
• 3:46:08
  You know why they did that with the?
• 3:46:10
  Headset the Xbox branded Quest. Is because so many people.
• 3:46:15
  Play game. Pass Yep, on a giant.
• 3:46:20
  Screen in their I won't be doing that.
• 3:46:24
  If I want to play a fucking flat game, I'll play it on my.
• 3:46:27
  Nice. Computer monitor flat games are
• 3:46:31
  for flat screens. VR games.
• 3:46:35
  I like them to be actually VR and that's.
• 3:46:40
  What I'm going to be doing so if.
• 3:46:41
  You're going to go to sleep, Sam, Just.
• 3:46:43
  Know I'm going to be mastering the.
• 3:46:45
  Dark art of disco. Awesome.
• 3:46:51
  Yeah. And I'm going to rock up to that
• 3:46:52
  disco one day, Sam. I'm going to steal the show.
• 3:46:58
  Your disco's. Still right?
• 3:47:01
  It's. Maybe there's a?
• 3:47:02
  Couple maybe. All right, cool, but I'm going
• 3:47:07
  to. Master Disco and I'm going.
• 3:47:09
  In and it should be just like. Saturday.
• 3:47:11
  Night Fever, Sam. Exactly.
• 3:47:15
  All right. Sure, Max, except while you all
• 3:47:21
  are chasing Broads I studied. The Disco.
• 3:47:26
  Mm hmm. But see you all.
• 3:47:30
  You. Already have a.
• 3:47:31
  Broad so you don't need, you know you don't need it for that.
• 3:47:36
  Right, a lot of guys learn the dark art of disco.
• 3:47:40
  To pick up Broads, that is not my motivation.
• 3:47:44
  I am purely motivated. By the.
• 3:47:47
  Knowledge, skill set and next wants to be the Lord of the
• 3:47:51
  dance. The Lord of the disco, not the
• 3:47:57
  Lord of the dance. Exactly.
• 3:48:01
  I can't dance. But I sure as fucking boogie.
• 3:48:05
  It's 'cause I'm a gangster, but disco with a form of dance.
• 3:48:15
  He's right. Also, I'll probably be doing
• 3:48:20
  some like. Like actual VR boxing against
• 3:48:23
  other people, like players. I'll probably.
• 3:48:27
  Stream some of that even if I I don't care if I.
• 3:48:29
  Lose cares. No, no, you're not going to.
• 3:48:35
  You're not going to flip out like some people.
• 3:48:37
  Either I know. You well, I'm going to I'm going
• 3:48:40
  to be hard to beat because I'm so tall it it.
• 3:48:43
  Counts in that game. So Oh yeah, like like weight
• 3:48:49
  class. Doesn't matter because they
• 3:48:51
  can't really measure that, but I am so much taller than most
• 3:48:54
  people they won't be able to punch me in the head.
• 3:48:58
  Which was true. When I was boxing.
• 3:49:00
  For real too, all I have to do is just lean back and they can't
• 3:49:05
  get me. That's it.
• 3:49:08
  I keep my head back. My long, My long.
• 3:49:12
  Arms do all the work you got to get in real.
• 3:49:18
  Close to me to take a shot and that's.
• 3:49:20
  The worst thing to do is get in close.
• 3:49:22
  To a big guy. Because I'm going to hit you.
• 3:49:29
  So VR boxing on the table, boxing underdogs.
• 3:49:34
  It came out yesterday. And I'm.
• 3:49:38
  Going to pick it up on Friday when I have when.
• 3:49:40
  I get paid nice, I mean I just bought a $300 headset so I got
• 3:49:46
  to wait a couple days to spend. 20 on a.
• 3:49:48
  Fucking game but it also other. Things we might do in.
• 3:49:53
  VR Sam that games. That I have.
• 3:49:56
  It might be very fun for me and her to do Among Us VR for the
• 3:50:02
  memes. Yeah, I got mini golf, bowling,
• 3:50:06
  all that kind of shit. So all kinds of fun stuff
• 3:50:10
  planned. Not just for sandwich.
• 3:50:13
  Makers, but across the. Board, we obviously we put a
• 3:50:15
  lot. Of effort into stepping up our
• 3:50:17
  production and that's barely started so nice well and then
• 3:50:28
  also coloring with Maxine's not going.
• 3:50:30
  To stop. She's going to continue to do
• 3:50:32
  those kind of streams as well. Oh.
• 3:50:34
  Right, right. I I didn't think she would but
• 3:50:38
  just figured I would mention just because.
• 3:50:41
  Sandwich makers each week is whatever she wants to do.
• 3:50:45
  Yep, right. And so if people are expecting a
• 3:50:48
  certain kind of. Content from it.
• 3:50:52
  Good luck. Well, we're, we're, we're
• 3:50:54
  starting season 3 of the sandwich.
• 3:50:56
  Makers officially this week. And we're going to start it big,
• 3:51:00
  so that should be. Fun, yeah.
• 3:51:09
  And I am going to be doing. More cringing over coffee
• 3:51:15
  streams on Kik. Nice.
• 3:51:20
  I'm actually. Trying to figure out like
• 3:51:23
  authentication for my I'll. Say this I did. 1.
• 3:51:30
  Of my classic cringing. Over coffee streams on Kik.
• 3:51:34
  The turn out was huge. So I must do more.
• 3:51:41
  I'm going to I'm going to pick a selection of episodes and
• 3:51:43
  probably do like a another 12 hour or 20 or.
• 3:51:47
  You know, stream. I still have a lot of episodes I
• 3:51:51
  haven't played or haven't been seen in years so and if
• 3:51:59
  anybody's. Wondering about?
• 3:52:00
  Well, what about new? Cringing over coffee because
• 3:52:02
  honestly Sam, I never thought this would be.
• 3:52:07
  The case, but I'm to the point. Where people are actually asking
• 3:52:10
  me that now? There's a lot of stuff that
• 3:52:12
  cringe over there, Max. Well, here's the thing.
• 3:52:16
  I don't like to cringe. Over what everybody else is
• 3:52:18
  looking at. And if you watch cringing over
• 3:52:21
  coffee, you know I. Have my own cast of characters.
• 3:52:24
  Yep. One of those characters has a
• 3:52:27
  big event coming up on August 5th.
• 3:52:31
  His name? Is.
• 3:52:31
  Christopher Cantwell, and he's got a probable cause hearing.
• 3:52:35
  So. Oh nice, cringing over.
• 3:52:40
  Well, three will be after that court date, so August. 6th. 7th,
• 3:52:48
  8th, something like that. I got to wait till I see.
• 3:52:51
  How he gets affairs in court I. Have nothing new.
• 3:52:53
  Except that he's got a new court date.
• 3:52:57
  But that's the plan. So the next cringing over
• 3:53:00
  coffee, I do have to wait to watch on the events unfold
• 3:53:05
  because one of my my lovely friends of the show is in jail.
• 3:53:14
  We're just trying to see. I say friend very loosely.
• 3:53:17
  Fuck him. I hate him right but one of the
• 3:53:20
  cringing subjects but. He's charged with meth.
• 3:53:25
  Possession and allegedly we haven't seen why and.
• 3:53:29
  I have. Reasons I have a lot actually.
• 3:53:33
  But I need to. Wait to do the.
• 3:53:34
  Show until after Cantwell goes through his probable cause
• 3:53:38
  hearing, so look out for that in a couple weeks.
• 3:53:43
  But until then, the classic cringing over coffee streams are
• 3:53:46
  going to probably be two or three of them in the next couple
• 3:53:49
  weeks on Kik. Exclusively.
• 3:53:53
  Nice, I am looking at getting my kick channel probably set up.
• 3:54:02
  So. And Bits and Bones is looking to
• 3:54:06
  dual string, probably starting this week.
• 3:54:10
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I had been.
• 3:54:12
  Dual streaming up till this point but like the.
• 3:54:14
  The classic. Cringe streams I could just
• 3:54:16
  easily do just on kik and I'm going to.
• 3:54:22
  Nice. Yeah, Yeah, it's a, it's a
• 3:54:25
  pretty good platform and I get a lot of chatters, which is not
• 3:54:28
  something we get a lot of here. No.
• 3:54:33
  No. So, but anyway, well, thanks for
• 3:54:40
  tuning in folks, whether. You're turning in live or.
• 3:54:43
  In the You Know archive. We appreciate everyone for
• 3:54:47
  tuning in in the future and we will see you next week so or 8
• 3:54:59
  weeks. Ago if you're in the future.
• 3:55:02
  Exactly. So take care everyone and.
• 3:55:08
  Yeah. We will see you in the future.
• 3:55:12
  We're going to time. Travel now.
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  The right to offend is not some. Pesky little part of freedom of
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  speech that we have to put up with it is the heart and soul
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  and lungs of freedom of. Speech.
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  It is the. Coursing lifeblood of human
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  protest, it is the instigator of liberty and modernity and
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  science and understanding. What a laughing stock today's
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  student leaders are that they can so casually dismiss the
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  right to be offensive without realising that their lovely,
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  enlightened lives are the gifts of individuals who gave offence.
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  Offensiveness is not just something we have to
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  begrudgingly accept. Offensiveness is the motor of
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  human progress. Thank you for watching the
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  Whitfield Report live on the Right to Offend Media Network.
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  share with your friends. And until next time, God bless.
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  God save this great nation. God, freedom, legacy, in that
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  order.