Latest / The M&M Experience / M and M EXTRA 7.10.26 | Might Platner stay in? And bleeps or no bleeps?
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
- 0:05Speaker 1: of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they've
- 0:08Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M and M,
- 0:13Speaker 1: Hot Topics in the News, and Wisdom from Light. It's
- 0:16Speaker 1: Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem Extra.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Wrapping up Mike Gallagher's two day work week. Aren't you
- 0:28Speaker 2: just exhausted?
- 0:29Speaker 3: Are you jealous? You're jealous?
- 0:32Speaker 2: I am, I am, but we're ready for the weekend
- 0:35Speaker 2: and ready to plug into life and get your plug.
- 0:38Speaker 2: What are your weekend plans?
- 0:39Speaker 3: What do you know? What do you do? It is
- 0:40Speaker 3: weird to have to take the three day staycation that
- 0:43Speaker 3: you and I talked about. That I had Monday, Tuesday,
- 0:45Speaker 3: Wednesday work two days and now back back to weekend again.
- 0:49Speaker 3: I'm like almost in weekend modent. You know what I
- 0:51Speaker 3: did last night? I'm so embarrassed. Admit this. I watched
- 0:55Speaker 3: the Thursday episode of eminem Extra at home on my TV.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Now I admit I got a big screen TV. You're
- 1:03Speaker 3: a spoiler alert. You and I don't look good on
- 1:05Speaker 3: an eighty five TV.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Are dinosaurs sized heads floating in space as you watch it?
- 1:10Speaker 3: On your theater second team. We could land an air
- 1:13Speaker 3: we could put an aircraft carrier on your forehead or mine.
- 1:16Speaker 3: I mean no, it's but it was kind of fun
- 1:19Speaker 3: because I got to see what the look. We're kind
- 1:23Speaker 3: of new to this podcast space, and we're loving it.
- 1:26Speaker 3: I teased this morning that you go blue on this
- 1:30Speaker 3: thing all the time. So if anybody's tuning in to
- 1:31Speaker 3: hear more than was that about? My own text line
- 1:34Speaker 3: lit up?
- 1:35Speaker 2: It's like, oh, Mark, Well, wasn't aware that you guys
- 1:38Speaker 2: were going to be dropping f moms. I said, I
- 1:40Speaker 2: hesitate to even well finish your sentence, and then I
- 1:43Speaker 2: have a thought about.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Well, I obviously made it up. I just wanted to
- 1:47Speaker 3: get people to go to the podcast because there probably
- 1:50Speaker 3: has been a borderline. There might be a damn throat.
- 1:55Speaker 3: I mean, for well, we say nice effect, but we
- 1:58Speaker 3: said wish we've said bullshit before we said that. Well
- 2:02Speaker 3: we have now well, and I just I know, oh god,
- 2:06Speaker 3: we're on a podcast. It's okay, Mark, don't get upset. No,
- 2:10Speaker 3: I'm not upset. Don't be fragile.
- 2:13Speaker 2: And everybody has to know that in real private, out
- 2:16Speaker 2: there off air life, if I stub my toe on
- 2:19Speaker 2: the coffee table.
- 2:21Speaker 3: Get ready, it's coming.
- 2:22Speaker 2: But in this environment with I don't know what the
- 2:26Speaker 2: overlap is between our radio audiences, where we observe a
- 2:32Speaker 2: pretty tight set of decorum. In this it's not like
- 2:37Speaker 2: and here's the little story I was going to tell.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Remember when Howard Stern it breaks my heart a little
- 2:42Speaker 2: bit because this is a genius broadcaster of such long standing,
- 2:46Speaker 2: and he is but a sad shell of what kind
- 2:49Speaker 2: of entertainer he used to be. The show is still
- 2:52Speaker 2: pretty good on interviews, but basically I haven't listened attentively
- 2:55Speaker 2: in years. When he went from terrestrial radio onto satellite radio.
- 3:01Speaker 2: No more FCC, no more this, no more that he
- 3:04Speaker 2: and Robin and the whole gang said. If everybody's thinking
- 3:07Speaker 2: that all we're gonna do is just drop f bombs
- 3:10Speaker 2: all the time, that's not the point. That's not the case.
- 3:12Speaker 2: I mean, if it occurs to us, we will et cetera,
- 3:15Speaker 2: et cetera. I'm I'm I'm not there, I'm not observed.
- 3:19Speaker 3: I mean.
- 3:21Speaker 2: That that's I will still if we I mean, even
- 3:25Speaker 2: when you threw down the BS A moment ago, I
- 3:29Speaker 2: thought about some some you know lady in Tarpain Springs
- 3:33Speaker 2: who's been listening to us for thirty years. It just
- 3:36Speaker 2: doesn't want us to do it.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Well, let's get into the dynamic of this for a moment,
- 3:40Speaker 3: because you're right, we want our radio audiences to come
- 3:44Speaker 3: over to us, and for many of folks who are
- 3:48Speaker 3: with us like right now, this is a relatively new
- 3:51Speaker 3: platform for them too. That's why a lot of people
- 3:54Speaker 3: were found the way commercials get inserted kind of jarring
- 3:58Speaker 3: because we don't do it that way the radio show,
- 4:00Speaker 3: and on podcasts, they just get inserted. Every podcast does
- 4:04Speaker 3: it that way. That's the way all podcasts are, and
- 4:07Speaker 3: the bigger they are, and the more people that are
- 4:10Speaker 3: listening or watching, the more ads there is going to be.
- 4:13Speaker 3: We're not exactly doing this, you know, Salvation Army. Yeah,
- 4:17Speaker 3: we're we have Mother Teresa where we're doing this for
- 4:20Speaker 3: a reason. We want to entertain and inform insured that
- 4:22Speaker 3: we want the company to make some money in the process.
- 4:25Speaker 3: But I also love the idea and first of all,
- 4:29Speaker 3: if this thing does take off the way we hope
- 4:31Speaker 3: it will, a lot of the people who are going
- 4:34Speaker 3: to take part in the M and M Extra podcast
- 4:36Speaker 3: are not daily purveyors of either of our shows. It's
- 4:40Speaker 3: a different audience. The digital audience is different. This is
- 4:43Speaker 3: one of those big challenges that the broadcast industry has faced.
- 4:47Speaker 3: You know, people kind of assume a lot of broadcasters,
- 4:50Speaker 3: a lot of executives, say, oh, we're going to take
- 4:52Speaker 3: the radio magic and we're going to turn it into
- 4:55Speaker 3: a podcast or digital. It's not. It's not the same audience.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Often it's there's no there's some crossover, but not a
- 5:02Speaker 3: lot of If this thing is going to take off,
- 5:03Speaker 3: there'll be a bunch of people who we hope will
- 5:05Speaker 3: take will enjoy the M and M extra as much
- 5:08Speaker 3: as early, which I would dream of.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I can't wait to the notion of the notion of
- 5:11Speaker 2: a hearing from somebody who has, you know, stumbled across this.
- 5:14Speaker 3: And they say to us, oh, you guys have radio
- 5:18Speaker 3: shows too, Yeah, exactly, that's that's well, that's and that's
- 5:22Speaker 3: what I think. That's already beginning to happen. I've gotten
- 5:24Speaker 3: a couple of emails to that effect. But I also
- 5:27Speaker 3: hope that the podcast is a place mark where we
- 5:31Speaker 3: can kind of be freer and let our hair down
- 5:34Speaker 3: a little bit and be more like there's no time constraints,
- 5:38Speaker 3: you know, we want to go thirty minutes one day
- 5:40Speaker 3: like today, probably we'll go forty five. Tomorrow we'll go
- 5:43Speaker 3: and who knows what time will go? Uh and and yeah,
- 5:47Speaker 3: I think we ought to be a little more free
- 5:49Speaker 3: than we would be on a terrestrial radio show.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Correct, And I mean, and it's funny, and there would
- 5:53Speaker 2: be nothing gratuitous and et cetera, et cetera. But it
- 5:56Speaker 2: might be a little more here's that word, to get
- 5:59Speaker 2: a little more authentic, little more real. I know that
- 6:01Speaker 2: it's not the same constraint. Here, here's an advanced clue
- 6:07Speaker 2: of something I'm going to do that is indicative of
- 6:09Speaker 2: what you're describing. It might take me a couple of weeks,
- 6:14Speaker 2: but somewhere, probably before this month is over, we're going
- 6:20Speaker 2: to devote a couple of minutes at least to a series,
- 6:25Speaker 2: a TV series that Lisa and I are consuming that
- 6:29Speaker 2: I would never mention on the radio and will not
- 6:31Speaker 2: mention on the radio show. What really, because you and
- 6:36Speaker 2: I have because there's some content in there, and because
- 6:41Speaker 2: you're from the Americans to I don't know what else.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Various other you and I have talked about the occasions
- 6:49Speaker 2: on which you and I have shared a TV series
- 6:52Speaker 2: that we really really liked, right, and it happened to
- 6:55Speaker 2: have some sexual content or some language or something, and
- 6:58Speaker 2: everybody has totally different I don't need an enormous amount
- 7:01Speaker 2: of gratuitous content, but if a show is really really awesome,
- 7:05Speaker 2: I mean Sopranos, hello, I just mentioned The Americans, a
- 7:08Speaker 2: magnificent mini series with a series with Matthew Reese and
- 7:12Speaker 2: Carry Russell from a few years back. If there's some
- 7:14Speaker 2: sex and violent content in there, I'm not gonna go
- 7:17Speaker 2: and turn it off other people will. I understand and
- 7:20Speaker 2: respect everybody's taste in everybody's standards. There have been some
- 7:23Speaker 2: times when I think you and I have, either on
- 7:26Speaker 2: our own shows or to each other, talked about a
- 7:27Speaker 2: show and we'll hear back and it'll be yeah, Mike, uh,
- 7:31Speaker 2: I'll watch that show you told me was so great.
- 7:34Speaker 2: I thought you like Jesus. It's like, oh, yeah, I knew,
- 7:39Speaker 2: I know.
- 7:40Speaker 3: So what's the show? Cut to the chase, what's the show?
- 7:45Speaker 3: You can tell us what the show is.
- 7:48Speaker 4: News.
- 7:49Speaker 2: So you're not gonna talk about the show, or you are?
- 7:50Speaker 2: You talk about the show as soon as we're as
- 7:52Speaker 2: soon as we're done. And we got some seasons here, man,
- 7:55Speaker 2: it was not it was not one season. So so so,
- 7:59Speaker 2: since this has come up, I'm just describing to you
- 8:02Speaker 2: that at some point here a couple of weeks, I
- 8:05Speaker 2: will have a full reveal. It'll be about the show,
- 8:09Speaker 2: also kind of about the content and the degree and
- 8:14Speaker 2: sort of the pervasiveness of certain types of content and
- 8:18Speaker 2: what it says about society. But I know I'm being
- 8:21Speaker 2: totally vague, but it's just to tell you that's coming,
- 8:25Speaker 2: and I'll give you heads up. Okay, that is all right?
- 8:27Speaker 3: Well, I mean and and here's a clip that comes
- 8:30Speaker 3: to mind that I want to play for you, a
- 8:31Speaker 3: montage that Graby and our friends a Graby and put
- 8:34Speaker 3: together showing all of the Democrats defending the Nazi tattoo
- 8:38Speaker 3: wearing rape acused demon named Graham Platner. But here's a
- 8:43Speaker 3: great example. I'm just thinking about this, yasmin our video
- 8:47Speaker 3: producer had to obviously bleep out all the curse words
- 8:51Speaker 3: for my show today. Well what did the what did
- 8:55Speaker 3: the videos contend? What were they? Cursewords? Were they? James
- 8:58Speaker 3: Carville letting the fly and all these democrats let me
- 9:03Speaker 3: loose with a bunch of exploitives and obviously we have
- 9:06Speaker 3: to bleep that because of FCC rules. Well, of course
- 9:08Speaker 3: there are no FCC rules for a podcast. We go,
- 9:12Speaker 3: we could play this clip bleep free.
- 9:15Speaker 2: And now we and and and I and we shouldn't
- 9:17Speaker 2: because because I bet hell, yes trying, man, I'm trying.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Give me a good cause, give me a curse word.
- 9:28Speaker 2: I understand, I have the logic of bleeping is very sound,
- 9:32Speaker 2: both in obviously for broadcast regulations and FCC et cetera,
- 9:36Speaker 2: but just for decorum, et cetera, et cetera. But in
- 9:39Speaker 2: the case of Carville, who's been a figure of political
- 9:42Speaker 2: consequence for decades and who also at the moment is
- 9:45Speaker 2: just losing his cotton picking mind right in front of
- 9:48Speaker 2: our faces kind of if listen, here's what he said.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Here it is. I think there's some here's the word again,
- 9:55Speaker 3: some authenticity to that. So you're okay. So because because
- 9:58Speaker 3: the flip side of that is bearing in mind that
- 10:01Speaker 3: we've invited people over from our radio shows who are
- 10:04Speaker 3: used to our sensibility. Yes, ready, kids, get ready, you're
- 10:07Speaker 3: okay we should play an unedited clip.
- 10:09Speaker 2: You don't think we should be with us even with
- 10:12Speaker 2: the standard that I've just described for myself. When you're
- 10:16Speaker 2: talking about here's what some bleeps kind of annoy me
- 10:19Speaker 2: in a way. Sometimes it's like, I'm a grown up.
- 10:22Speaker 2: I know what he said. If he said it, let
- 10:23Speaker 2: him say it. And I know that the radio rules
- 10:25Speaker 2: are different. But here, if this is what folks say,
- 10:28Speaker 2: we are purveyors and distributors of stuff folks say.
- 10:31Speaker 3: So well, let's take a vote. You know, we got
- 10:33Speaker 3: a bunch of people already commenting on the live chat
- 10:36Speaker 3: on YouTube. Incidentally, Yeah, I want to take a vote.
- 10:38Speaker 3: I want to take a No, I know, I know, Yasmin,
- 10:42Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that. I'm just saying that we're
- 10:44Speaker 3: not going to play the unedited clip. We're gonna play
- 10:46Speaker 3: the edited clip. Mad Mike incidentally made a comment on
- 10:49Speaker 3: the chat room. I'm one of the new crossovers. I
- 10:53Speaker 3: found you on YouTube, so we already see we've already
- 10:55Speaker 3: got people event is it? So? Really? Then you had
- 10:58Speaker 3: no idea that either of us had a radio show
- 11:01Speaker 3: just on you. Who are these guys? I know? Why
- 11:06Speaker 3: to fantastic? So in the live chat room, with that
- 11:09Speaker 3: in mind, I am really interested in your answer on this.
- 11:11Speaker 3: So let me let me take a I want to
- 11:12Speaker 3: put this to a vote, and look, we're gonna still
- 11:15Speaker 3: decide what we're gonna do. I think that that well, Mark,
- 11:18Speaker 3: there's an argument to be made, let's not offend our
- 11:21Speaker 3: audience with f words. And I get that, of course,
- 11:23Speaker 3: not that that's why I probably will never even if
- 11:27Speaker 3: it's even if it's James Carville. Let's not offense. It
- 11:30Speaker 3: takes nothing to bleep the word out. And so my
- 11:33Speaker 3: question to this audience, and just see what people think
- 11:36Speaker 3: on your and your Your instincts are probably right, but
- 11:39Speaker 3: let's at least ask our audience. Right now on YouTube
- 11:43Speaker 3: watching us live, there's a live chat, tell us your vote.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Do you want to hear like this clip? I want
- 11:48Speaker 3: to play for Mark, and I want you to hear
- 11:50Speaker 3: and see this clip of the montage of because it's amazing.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Because the astounding part of this is even when they
- 11:56Speaker 3: were saying all these enthusiastic supportive things of Graham Platiner,
- 12:01Speaker 3: they knew, they knew Mark, they knew who he is,
- 12:05Speaker 3: they knew what he had done, they knew about the
- 12:08Speaker 3: accusations of physical assault against his ex girlfriend. They knew,
- 12:12Speaker 3: and they supported him anyway. So I want to play
- 12:15Speaker 3: a beautiful montage. It's a few minutes long, but it's
- 12:17Speaker 3: worth every delicious second. But I'll throw it open to
- 12:21Speaker 3: the to the to the live chat audience right now
- 12:24Speaker 3: on YouTube. Do you want clips bleeped? Or do you
- 12:28Speaker 3: want them? Do you want them going forward? Not today,
- 12:31Speaker 3: but going forward? When we have a clip like the
- 12:33Speaker 3: one I'm about to play that has F bombs and
- 12:36Speaker 3: S words and all that in there, do you want
- 12:38Speaker 3: that it edited out the way we do for our
- 12:41Speaker 3: talk shows or do you think it ought to be
- 12:43Speaker 3: raw and real and as Mark put it, authentic bleeps
- 12:46Speaker 3: or auto podcasts? Your thing is bleeps or no bleeps.
- 12:50Speaker 3: And now here's the thing.
- 12:51Speaker 2: All I'm thinking about is Yasmin god lover like she's
- 12:53Speaker 2: not working hard enough. Does this mean she's got if
- 12:55Speaker 2: you had a three minute montage or something, she's got
- 12:57Speaker 2: to go make another one and take the bleeps out?
- 12:59Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean it's it's well, it's easier for her.
- 13:02Speaker 3: She'll have version. Well, no, she's only got to do
- 13:05Speaker 3: it one time. She's already. I don't think she's got
- 13:08Speaker 3: to do it twice. I mean, she's got the raw version,
- 13:10Speaker 3: then she's got to do the edits all right, And incidentally,
- 13:13Speaker 3: so far, it looks like most of the voters are saying,
- 13:16Speaker 3: please don't play the curse words on your party again.
- 13:19Speaker 3: We're growing ups here for crying out loud. No, please
- 13:22Speaker 3: don't play the cursewords. They're saying, Oh yeah, most people
- 13:27Speaker 3: are playing. What he says, that life is profane enough.
- 13:30Speaker 3: There's enough obscenity out there in the Yeah, that's what
- 13:33Speaker 3: I'm thinking. And even on our platform here, I don't know.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Jim says, don't bleep, Allan says, don't bleep. Jennifer unedited
- 13:42Speaker 3: from Nature play and we're adults, Bobby let it fly,
- 13:46Speaker 3: uh GMC, I don't care if there's cussing or not.
- 13:49Speaker 3: I'm an adult, Melissa, right, Melissa writes raw and real.
- 13:56Speaker 3: Please all right? So this is this is real, maybe
- 14:00Speaker 3: not quite as raw as it he was originally, but
- 14:03Speaker 3: I want to protect you today.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Today we're going to protect your virgin ears from James
- 14:06Speaker 2: Carvill's rating.
- 14:07Speaker 3: I honestly don't know where Democrats go from here with this.
- 14:10Speaker 3: They are as such a mess. Check out this montage
- 14:14Speaker 3: courtesy of Grabian of all the top Democrats and pay
- 14:18Speaker 3: attention to who they are too, These are not just
- 14:21Speaker 3: you know, people in their mom's basement, you know, tweeting
- 14:24Speaker 3: stuff out. These are prominent, established political and media figures
- 14:30Speaker 3: desperately defending the Nazi adorned rape accused Graham Plattner.
- 14:37Speaker 5: The obsession with personal purity. We're not hiring a priest,
- 14:41Speaker 5: We're hiring a senator. We're going to talk about in
- 14:44Speaker 5: tattoos and Sexton.
- 14:45Speaker 3: He gets a hall pass. I don't give us if
- 14:48Speaker 3: somebody had a toxic relationship.
- 14:50Speaker 6: Toxic relationships and tattoos and all of.
- 14:53Speaker 3: The talk about Susan Collins.
- 14:56Speaker 4: He could be one hundred times more than he is.
- 14:59Speaker 4: He'd up is what we got in Washington now. Anyway,
- 15:02Speaker 4: what I'm more outraged about, it's stupid choosing college. I
- 15:05Speaker 4: asked all of you to consider the candidacy a grand Blatiner.
- 15:08Speaker 4: I asked all of you to understand his flowers.
- 15:10Speaker 7: Are you rescending your support for grand Platiner after the
- 15:13Speaker 7: leude posts that league?
- 15:14Speaker 5: What's appalling you mean?
- 15:15Speaker 4: Right now?
- 15:16Speaker 3: I don't get bothered by it as much, None of it.
- 15:18Speaker 4: He's someone who had a drinking problem as a marine.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Platter has owned up to mistakes he made as a
- 15:23Speaker 3: younger guy, do I want to make the best the
- 15:25Speaker 3: enemy of the good. Grand Plantner is popular even though faw.
- 15:28Speaker 3: He is a flawed man, just like I'm a flawed man.
- 15:30Speaker 3: And this is the key. Everybody is flawed at some level.
- 15:33Speaker 6: No one's perfect. All politicians have baggage. This just happens
- 15:35Speaker 6: to be a candidate that has baggage.
- 15:37Speaker 3: He's got an antidemtic tattoo. I feel like this president
- 15:40Speaker 3: to say, I think black noble.
- 15:42Speaker 8: I like Bram Platinue, You like Bramlatine.
- 15:46Speaker 3: That's my kind of man. I would vote for Platiner.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Let's get some power.
- 15:51Speaker 9: Let's take over the Senate.
- 15:52Speaker 3: Let's take over the house.
- 15:54Speaker 5: Somebody that has put his life on the line for
- 15:56Speaker 5: this country against somebody that is literally empowering the moral
- 16:03Speaker 5: hollowing out of our nation.
- 16:05Speaker 7: He had had two tours of duty in Iraq. He
- 16:07Speaker 7: came back broken in a dark place. He took accountability.
- 16:11Speaker 7: He acknowledges that he was misogynistic, was toxic, toxicity, and
- 16:15Speaker 7: there was a verbal intimidation, which I condemn. It happened
- 16:20Speaker 7: in a dark period of his life. He's taken accountability.
- 16:23Speaker 7: He's starting an oyster farm. He was on the ocean
- 16:25Speaker 7: for years. He found himself. Look, let's give him some grace.
- 16:29Speaker 3: He went into combat on behappy, unized days. He went
- 16:32Speaker 3: through a really rough period. Yeah, PTSD type period. Graham
- 16:36Speaker 3: clearly made a.
- 16:36Speaker 9: Mistake, and I've been on CNN saying that what I
- 16:39Speaker 9: appreciated about him is he owned that mistake. You know
- 16:42Speaker 9: what is disqualifying as having a senator in Maine who
- 16:45Speaker 9: just does Donald Trump's bidding.
- 16:46Speaker 5: This is a guy who has served this country, who
- 16:50Speaker 5: has gone through some.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Really tough things.
- 16:52Speaker 5: If this is going to be a character election in Maine,
- 16:56Speaker 5: there is a question of character in continuing to support
- 16:59Speaker 5: a present events that is terrorizing immigrants. I'm going to
- 17:03Speaker 5: do everything I can to make sure that Grand Platner
- 17:05Speaker 5: is the next Senator from the state of Maine.
- 17:07Speaker 6: You know, all those Bible clutching Christians voted for the
- 17:10Speaker 6: guy who we all heard boast about sexual assault. Democrats
- 17:13Speaker 6: have to take over the Senate, they have to take
- 17:16Speaker 6: over the House. If I lived in Maine, I would
- 17:18Speaker 6: hold my nose and I would tip the last lever,
- 17:21Speaker 6: and I would vote for him.
- 17:22Speaker 5: Maybe we should be focusing on the important issues facing
- 17:26Speaker 5: working people throughout this country, not focusing on this marriage.
- 17:30Speaker 10: It doesn't matter because he's right about what's wrong.
- 17:33Speaker 4: Sometimes you make alliances that you would not have made
- 17:37Speaker 4: under a different status circumstances. Franklin rose out Western Churchia,
- 17:41Speaker 4: who did they work with well, Joseph his imperfections and
- 17:45Speaker 4: imperfections that we can all identify with.
- 17:47Speaker 9: It's not going to sit here and judge mainers who
- 17:48Speaker 9: wants you to push away, push against the status quo.
- 17:51Speaker 3: It's not my place to judge. If grand Platter can
- 17:53Speaker 3: earn their trust, and he earns their trust.
- 17:54Speaker 7: He thinks he's a changed person, a transformed person.
- 17:58Speaker 3: I believe in Green Platter is no nunity. I don't
- 18:01Speaker 3: think that he's a racist in anyway.
- 18:03Speaker 4: His relationship with his wife is his relationship with his wife.
- 18:07Speaker 4: It's all about you know, leate, consensual, you know stuff.
- 18:11Speaker 6: The accusations against Graham Platner are not classic me too accusations,
- 18:17Speaker 6: not like classic abuse allegations. Of course, in the Access
- 18:21Speaker 6: Hollywood tape, President Trump bragged about grabbing women against their will.
- 18:27Speaker 6: Gender related accusations get bundled together, but they're actually very.
- 18:33Speaker 3: En Wow is that and the look the Hall of
- 18:36Speaker 3: Fame quote came from Rocanna, Well, he was out on
- 18:40Speaker 3: the ocean for you exactly what out on the ocean.
- 18:44Speaker 3: So you're bombing around to the ocean. You say, Now,
- 18:46Speaker 3: when I get back, I'm going to rape a couple
- 18:48Speaker 3: of women's. I think I'll beat up some women. I've
- 18:51Speaker 3: been out on the ocean, the congressman Rocanna, I've been
- 18:57Speaker 3: out on the ocean.
- 18:59Speaker 4: What the heck?
- 19:01Speaker 3: I mean? These men? Now? How does Rocanna explain him?
- 19:04Speaker 3: How does Elizabeth Warren come back from this? And the
- 19:07Speaker 3: stupid part is Mark, you know they will and I've
- 19:11Speaker 3: heard them try. And here's what it kind of sounds like.
- 19:14Speaker 3: He says.
- 19:14Speaker 2: There was something that they say, there was something magical,
- 19:19Speaker 2: there was something impactful about the second lady, Jenny Rossico
- 19:25Speaker 2: than that. Because Lindsay Firefield a conservative, apparently she's abusable,
- 19:29Speaker 2: that didn't raise to the level of where they go, hey,
- 19:31Speaker 2: what's going on here?
- 19:31Speaker 3: But let Jenny ros she's a Republicans. Lindsay Fifield is
- 19:37Speaker 3: first loser. Firefield is the republic That's why I guess
- 19:39Speaker 3: she's survivable, right, she doesn't. Her assault doesn't matter. That
- 19:43Speaker 3: democratic a.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Glib assessment, and it may well be may well be accurate.
- 19:48Speaker 2: But this second lead had there was a lot more,
- 19:52Speaker 2: a lot more impact to that. I mean, this was
- 19:54Speaker 2: one those five years ago. There's the one that Politico
- 19:57Speaker 2: looked at in some detailing and a lot of them said, well,
- 20:00Speaker 2: this one puts this one meets the bar, this one
- 20:02Speaker 2: crosses the red line. But you know that what the
- 20:06Speaker 2: line that really got crossed was Platner's questionable poll numbers.
- 20:10Speaker 2: They no longer thought that he.
- 20:12Speaker 3: That's all it was. But I've got the bigger I
- 20:14Speaker 3: think the most important question right now is whether he
- 20:17Speaker 3: gets charged with rape. Rape is rape mark. Of course
- 20:21Speaker 3: he's not gonna He's not gonna get charged with anything.
- 20:24Speaker 3: How can that be? How can you have a credible
- 20:26Speaker 3: accuser within the statute of limited Well, I think I
- 20:30Speaker 3: know why, and I'm going to play it for you
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- 22:19Speaker 2: When you had asked me a question that I was
- 22:21Speaker 2: actually going to answer, maybe you do that is okay, okay,
- 22:25Speaker 2: because you had said, if indeed these rape allegations are
- 22:28Speaker 2: hanging in the wind about about a grand Platner, why
- 22:31Speaker 2: you know, will will he be charged? Why in the
- 22:33Speaker 2: world has it he been charged? And I instantly kind
- 22:35Speaker 2: of reflexively said he's not gonna be charged. Then I thought, WHOA,
- 22:39Speaker 2: why do I feel that way? I think it's by
- 22:42Speaker 2: the way, it doesn't mean that I don't believe the accusers.
- 22:45Speaker 2: I don't disbelieve the accusers. I just have no idea.
- 22:48Speaker 2: I think the thing that occurs to me and Tommy,
- 22:50Speaker 2: if you agree, is if they were going to charge
- 22:52Speaker 2: him with rape, they would have done it by now
- 22:55Speaker 2: that that they made a conscious choice. There's nothing magical,
- 22:58Speaker 2: there's nothing unique about this particular timeframe except the impending
- 23:03Speaker 2: election that makes everybody want to talk about this so
- 23:06Speaker 2: very very much as accusations go. So either they don't
- 23:10Speaker 2: want to undergo the scrutiny that will naturally come from
- 23:14Speaker 2: being an accuser, they don't want to go dragging through
- 23:16Speaker 2: a trial, which I can absolutely understand. So that's kind
- 23:21Speaker 2: of why I have zero expectation that there will be
- 23:24Speaker 2: any legal accusation, any legal charge of any kind.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Well to that point, perhaps the explanation comes from the
- 23:33Speaker 3: editor at the Main Wire. The Main Wire has been
- 23:36Speaker 3: doing a lot of great work covering this whole scandal,
- 23:38Speaker 3: and John Featherstone, the editor at the Main Wire, gave
- 23:42Speaker 3: perhaps an explanation to Scott Jennings, our friend and colleague,
- 23:46Speaker 3: about why he may not be charged.
- 23:49Speaker 10: Graham Platner the ahead of vote, he won most of
- 23:53Speaker 10: the votes, he had the nomination, but now he is
- 23:55Speaker 10: saying that he is suspending his campaign amid new allegations
- 23:59Speaker 10: that broke into a woman's house and.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Raped her, although he says.
- 24:03Speaker 10: He denies that and that it was totally fabricated, that
- 24:07Speaker 10: this never happened. Joining us from the ground in Maine
- 24:10Speaker 10: to discuss all of this, the Great John Featherston from
- 24:13Speaker 10: the main Wire, John, Welcome back to the Scott Jennings Show.
- 24:17Speaker 10: A pretty dramatic turn of events, these allegations of rape
- 24:20Speaker 10: against Graham Plattner, and then last night he puts out
- 24:23Speaker 10: this video eleven excruciating minutes.
- 24:27Speaker 3: He looked like he was.
- 24:28Speaker 10: Seething with anger. To me, it was not conciliatory. He
- 24:33Speaker 10: admitted nothing. He said it was totally false, and in
- 24:35Speaker 10: fact he insinuated that or more that he was being
- 24:39Speaker 10: framed by the Democratic establishment. I guess for being too progressive.
- 24:44Speaker 10: You've been covering Platner and following this story as closely
- 24:47Speaker 10: as anyone. What do you make of all this? And
- 24:49Speaker 10: let me ask this question on top of it. He
- 24:52Speaker 10: said he is suspending his campaign, but is at this moment.
- 24:55Speaker 10: I don't think he's actually formally dropped out, Is that right?
- 25:00Speaker 8: Well, Scott, always a pleasure to join you. Thanks for
- 25:02Speaker 8: having me. Yeah, I mean, here's the bottom line. He
- 25:05Speaker 8: said he's spending his campaign, which is kind of cryptic
- 25:08Speaker 8: to me. When he said that in an eleven minute
- 25:11Speaker 8: video where he plays the victim and doesn't apologize for anything,
- 25:15Speaker 8: I thought he came across as very disingenuous. But he
- 25:18Speaker 8: has until Monday at five o'clock to officially file the
- 25:21Speaker 8: paperwork to get off of the ballot. So I'm kind
- 25:25Speaker 8: of looking at it as I don't believe any of
- 25:27Speaker 8: this until he officially submits that paperwork to the Secretary
- 25:30Speaker 8: of State's office by Monday, So it's going to be
- 25:34Speaker 8: fascinating to watch. But watching him in that video, that
- 25:38Speaker 8: what you saw in that video is what I saw
- 25:40Speaker 8: the last eight months of covering his campaign. He is
- 25:44Speaker 8: a great stage actor. He's very you know, he should
- 25:47Speaker 8: go into theater. He'd probably make a lot of money
- 25:49Speaker 8: because that's what he is. He's very theatrical and he's
- 25:52Speaker 8: an actor. But him playing the victim last night here,
- 25:55Speaker 8: and you know, that was pathetic to watch as a
- 25:58Speaker 8: guy that you know, he he ran as the tough,
- 26:01Speaker 8: macho man and now he's sitting on his back deck,
- 26:05Speaker 8: you know, like Oh poor me. Look at what the
- 26:07Speaker 8: you know, the Democrats are doing to me. Well, you know,
- 26:10Speaker 8: you are part of the Democrat machine. And I don't
- 26:12Speaker 8: think there's too many people in the state of Maine
- 26:15Speaker 8: right now they feel sorry for you, Graham. But I
- 26:17Speaker 8: know I've talked to a lot of people this morning
- 26:20Speaker 8: that they're angry about this video.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Yeah, the video is.
- 26:25Speaker 10: I watched it all last night and just sort of
- 26:29Speaker 10: marveling at his complete and total lack of conciliatory attitude
- 26:37Speaker 10: at all. I mean, he he is saying he's suspending
- 26:40Speaker 10: his campaign, which I assume means he will drop out,
- 26:42Speaker 10: although as you point out, he hasn't done it yet.
- 26:46Speaker 3: I'm sorry and unfortunately, and that's my bad on editing,
- 26:49Speaker 3: because he went on to say in the interview, and
- 26:52Speaker 3: that was the point I wanted to get to that
- 26:54Speaker 3: there are multiple sources who claim there have been interactions
- 26:58Speaker 3: between the main attorney, Jenneral and Platner, which means, what
- 27:02Speaker 3: suggests that a deal was struck that you step down,
- 27:06Speaker 3: you get out of this race, and we won't charge
- 27:09Speaker 3: you with rape. Now, if that's true, Mark, that is
- 27:13Speaker 3: first of all, inconceivably evil. Did the rape occur or
- 27:18Speaker 3: didn't it shouldn't a jury be charged with deciding that
- 27:22Speaker 3: this woman And to your point about why they haven't already, Well,
- 27:26Speaker 3: this is a relatively new accusation from the second accuser
- 27:30Speaker 3: or the third or whatever she is. She's she came
- 27:33Speaker 3: out of the woodwork a week ago, right or two
- 27:35Speaker 3: weeks ago. It hasn't been that long. I'm talking about
- 27:38Speaker 3: the Democrat who said, who claims that he raped her?
- 27:42Speaker 3: They broke in that to her? When? Well, what you
- 27:47Speaker 3: mean when was the rape? Yes, a few years ago, that's.
- 27:50Speaker 7: What I mean.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Well, but if she hasn't made the accusation till now,
- 27:54Speaker 3: they can't prosecute him or to charge him. Let they
- 27:56Speaker 3: listen about it.
- 27:57Speaker 2: So for some reason, this makes me a little crazy, ladies,
- 28:01Speaker 2: And I understand, I'll never walk in these shoes. It'll
- 28:03Speaker 2: never happy. I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand.
- 28:06Speaker 2: But they are actual women out there saying so I'll
- 28:08Speaker 2: wrap myself in the teflon of these other women who say, Ladies,
- 28:11Speaker 2: if you get raped, can you please charge them the
- 28:14Speaker 2: next day? Don't sit there and come back two and
- 28:16Speaker 2: five and ten years later, and please God, don't do it.
- 28:19Speaker 2: Eight weeks before flipp An election, right, but because your
- 28:22Speaker 2: credibility is going to be shot.
- 28:24Speaker 3: But lesson learned. If you do it and it's a
- 28:26Speaker 3: Democrat candidate, If you're a Democrat, that will do the
- 28:29Speaker 3: candidate in. If you're a Republican, they'll look the other way.
- 28:32Speaker 3: It's it's really really wild, and I don't know. It's
- 28:36Speaker 3: going to be fascinating to see what happens on Monday. Look,
- 28:39Speaker 3: he might pull something out of his you know what
- 28:42Speaker 3: and say, I ain't dropping out, I'm not filed.
- 28:45Speaker 2: What do you it's weird? What do you want? What
- 28:47Speaker 2: do you want to have happen? The talk show host
- 28:49Speaker 2: in me wants me to stay in because that's just fun.
- 28:52Speaker 2: The conservative activist in me probably wants him to stay
- 28:56Speaker 2: in because I think Susan Collins beats him, and I
- 28:58Speaker 2: don't know, a new person might benefit from some goodwill,
- 29:02Speaker 2: new shiny toy.
- 29:03Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 29:03Speaker 2: All I want to do is make sure Susan Collins wins.
- 29:06Speaker 2: So I don't know, what what do you? What do
- 29:07Speaker 2: you want him to do?
- 29:09Speaker 3: I know one hundred and seventy five thousand voters are
- 29:11Speaker 3: being disenfranchised. I know a.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Hundred and seventy five thousand. You know that some of
- 29:17Speaker 2: them have gone Okay, that's enough, I'm out not but all.
- 29:21Speaker 3: Many of them have not many of them, I guarantee
- 29:24Speaker 3: you would say I'm sticking by gram Platiner. When I
- 29:27Speaker 3: was in Maine last weekend, in the middle of all
- 29:29Speaker 3: this drama, I saw a whole bunch of gram Platiner
- 29:31Speaker 3: for Senec signs and yards. So nobody's taking the signs down.
- 29:36Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's put up the I'm the bad
- 29:39Speaker 2: guy because I usually we have go forty or forty five.
- 29:41Speaker 2: I got weekends. I got the weekend tugging on my shirt.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Gotta go, gotta go do a couple of things. But
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