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219. Running Full Speed… Into a Wall with Lindsey Korell · FINE is a 4-Letter Word

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Hello and welcome to Fine Is a Four-Letter Word. My guest
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today is Lindsay Korell. Welcome to the show, Lindsay.
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Well, good morning, Lori. Thank you so much for inviting me. I am so excited
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to have this conversation with you here today. Yeah, I, I am
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curious to see where it goes and how it goes. We're recording this.
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It's like my first recording after the holiday break, and so
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I don't know, maybe I'm a little out of practice, but we'll see. Also,
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as I mentioned to you earlier, Since I've recorded the last podcast
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episode, I have adopted a cat, so we'll see if she makes an
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appearance. She may, she may surprise you.
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She may. She, she is resting peacefully in a sunbeam on the
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couch, so maybe we have 30 minutes. Lindsay,
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let's start out with helping my audience understand a little bit about your
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background. So what were the values and beliefs that you were raised with
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that contributed to you becoming who you are? I grew
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up in Montana and my grandparents had a dude ranch, a guest
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ranch. So I spent my summers on the guest ranch with
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people from around the world, which kind of gave me this wanderlust.
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I wanted to see what went on around the world and how
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they came to come to Montana, this little tiny town
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in Montana. I was like, how could somebody from— we had a
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Swiss banker that would come all of the time. And I was like,
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how is a Swiss banker finding Utica, Montana?
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Utica's barely a map dot, you know, it's one of those places.
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So do you know how he found it? My grandfather was
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a master marketer and would go to
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Minneapolis and to New York and talk to people about
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ranches in Montana. And there is not a better place to be.
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It's 1,500 acres right on the edge of the national forest.
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We had a blue ribbon trout stream. We had 60 or 70
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horses and 200 cow-calf pairs. So it was
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the true cowboy dream. So if you want want you to come be a cowboy,
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this was the place to go. Wait, did they film— what
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was that. Movie with City Slickers? Yeah, City Slickers. Did they film
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that there? No, but wouldn't that have been fun? It would have
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been fun. It's part of his marketing, your grandfather's marketing, right?
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Oh my God, he would have loved that. All right, go on. I don't want
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to interrupt. That kind of started the whole— who are these people
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from around the world? It kind of opens your eyes to what is really
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out there versus just growing up in a small ranching town. And
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then my father was and still is a farm and ranch
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broker. And I would watch him come home every night, have dinner
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with us, and then we'd clear the table and he would sit down and start
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going through the phone book, cold calling, you know, just names out of the phone
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book. Can you imagine? I can't even imagine. No, I can't. That
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would terrify me. Phone book and just calling people to see if
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they wanted to buy some real estate. And that really had a
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profound effect on me because I was like, oh, this is
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how you do business. You have dinner with your family and then you go right
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back to work, which is all going to come around in a circle here
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in a minute. But that was how I thought work
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was done. On one hand, I super appreciate that that is what I
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saw, that this is how you grow a business. And on the other hand, it
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terrified me. I was like, you have to work all of this time
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to make something work? That was good work. Yeah.
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Right. And so then did you ever have to cold call or did you
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ever choose to cold call? I was a realtor for 15 years too. Yes,
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I cold called. Did seeing him do that make it
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less scary or was it just as terrifying as it is
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for everybody else? Terrifying.
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It's No, it's a, you know, it becomes more normalized
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because you see, because you see it happen. But yeah, I didn't like it. It
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was, it was never fun. And I, right. Okay. I don't
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know. Sometimes it could have been, you know, I don't know what you're taking away
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from it. That's why I was asking. It's not my favorite. Let's go with that.
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Okay. All right. It's not my favorite, but it's like now because
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I've done that, you start warming up markets so that that call
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is much easier. They actually know who you are, what you're in business for, and
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maybe even why you're calling, or it just becomes a friendly
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conversation, which who knows, like this one, where's it going to go? You never
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know. You don't know. Well, we're here for it. We'll see. So
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that's what you grew up with. And then did you get to leave? I mean,
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obviously you've gotten to leave the ranch. Did you get to do all the traveling
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you wanted to do? I did. I actually got a Rotary Foundation
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scholarship and did my graduate degree in England. I got a
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master's in financial managerial controls, which was a huge
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mouthful, but all of that is finance. I wrote my thesis in
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Turkey, which is a bridge building project across the Euphrates in the
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Gaziantep area. It was an eye-opening experience for a young lady
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from Montana whose daddy told her she could be anything, do
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anything she ever wanted. And then I was white Christian American
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woman in Turkey. Uh-huh.
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Yes, that may be true. And you're gonna run into
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different cultures that you— like, culture clash. Yeah, it was amazing. What a great
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opportunity to learn. It was a great opportunity. It just taught
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me so much about my view of the world was so
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small coming out of Montana that I went to
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London and I went to Southampton and then I went to a small town
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in Turkey. I got the whole road, the whole range
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of it. But it was a fabulous experience because I learned
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how to be in the third world culture for all
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effects and purposes and still got to research my
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thesis. Still interacted with all the folks there. And
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I love old ruins. You know, who knew with this
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that this would become a fascination of just ancient history
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because of that. We've talked on this show before with— I've talked with past
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guests about the importance of stepping out of your own culture and
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going and experiencing other places, which
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Americans typically do a terrible job of in comparison
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to the rest of the world. And how it just, it changes
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who you are. Yeah, it changes your perspective. And honestly, we don't have the
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same opportunities that Europeans have. You know, they can, they can take an hour train
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ride to be in a different country and speak a different language. We don't
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quite have that, but we can make that opportunity. And
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giving that chance of traveling for me, like I told you, I was
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a realtor and my first year, it was great. It was 2005 when
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I was a realtor and it was amazing. You know, you could trip over a
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rock and sell a house. The market was that hot. And I had told my
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nieces at the time— they were young— that if when they turned 16, I would
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take them anywhere in the world. 10 years later, when they started 16,
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I was like, oh, OK, yes, I'm going to actually take you on a trip.
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And we went to London and Paris and Machu Picchu. And
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they got to experience their own adventure
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out of the country. And I got to go with them or travel
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with them. Right, so you got to feed your travel the
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travel bug as well. Okay, so you come back from Turkey and
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what was the path? Well, I jumped into
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the Peace Corps. I was doing banking co-ops in the Peace Corps and it
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was paper ledger, like, you know, the big giant book with pencil
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and paper ledger. And for someone who
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grew up in the United States, having the fact that your entire wealth,
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your bank account could be erased was mind-boggling
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to me. But coming back out of Peace Corps, which was a fabulous
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experience— I think everybody should do that— you get a totally different
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view of a third world country because you are on the ground,
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you are part of it. It changes how you think about things.
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You realize that your one way that you've learned how to think
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about things and one way that is right is only one way.
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There's so many different ways to look at the world and what is out
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there. But coming back from that, I went to
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Citibank, which had just launched their online on-time ATM.
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And I'm totally dating myself with that, but it's like I went from paper
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ledger to online on-time ATM. It was like I went
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the whole gamut of the banking system from 0 to
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100 in a couple
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of days. But that started my
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love of business is actually, I worked in a branch in Washington,
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D.C., and it really gave me one more
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perspective because I was in Palisades Park, which is a very wealthy part of
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Washington, D.C. So the people that I interacted there were,
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you know, very wealthy, very worldly people. And it
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starts to change your, you know, I've got this little piece, I've got this little
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piece, and now I'm getting this very worldly, very wealthy piece
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to see how to view the world. Mm-hmm.
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And then what did you do with that? How did this all come together
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somehow? I got those pieces and then I went into
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real estate. I started a couple businesses myself. I
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built them all on me. I, you
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know, it's like when you start building businesses, you are the linchpin, right?
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You do everything yourself. You figure out how to make it run.
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You are the salesperson, you are customer service, You
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are finance. You're the janitor. You're everything. You fix
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the copy machine. Yes. Yes. And even
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when you hire people, you are still everything
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because if you're like me, you like to hold on tight to
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everything and you don't let go. Yeah.
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Well, I was just talking to somebody about that. High capacity leaders.
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That was the term. We do that to ourselves. And then just recently,
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as I'm building this business that I have right now, that
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helps women get more space in their lives. I had a heart attack
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in April. Yeah, we were gonna get to that because like you're cruising
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along, life is fine, and then I got a tap. On
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the shoulder by God. There were taps before that though, right? That you
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didn't pay attention to. Well, I tried to pay attent— yes, I
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did get, get a tap on the shoulder before I got an autoimmune,
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which does slow you down if you don't pay attention to that and really
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take care of yourself and when that happened, I was in a very
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high stress job back in a corporate job, but startup, corporate
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startup job doing operations there, but very high stress
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and didn't realize how much of a toll it was taking on
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my body because I think we all have a tendency to do this.
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You're in it, your head is down, you're just go.
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You don't realize how much stress and how much strain
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you are putting on your body when you don't pick your head up and actually
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say, I need time for me. Right, because you just think this is
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how life is, this is how my life is, and I can handle
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it. I'm fine, I'm fine. No, I think a
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lot of people just think, I know what other people are
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saying about high stress and high performance and
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working so much, but I got this. I'm different. I've got
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this. You don't know who I am. Yeah,
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right. Yes. And, and especially when you think you're doing the
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right things, that you think that you're eating well and you're
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sleeping Well, and then you're telling yourself that you're doing all these things well, but
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obviously you're not because otherwise you wouldn't go
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down in such a way. How were you diagnosed with the
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autoimmune? Like, were there symptoms and you went to a doctor and they
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said, this is what's happening? No, I went for
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my well-woman exam. Mm-hmm. I at least kept those. Okay. And
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insurance covers them. Yes. It was Friday
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before 4th of July. So, you know, we had Monday and Tuesday
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off because the 4th was on Tuesday. You know, obviously this had a huge effect
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on me because I still remember exactly what those days were. And blood
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tests and everything was fine. It looked great. I was exhausted,
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whatever. I'm going to just go home. It's the weekend. I'm very
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excited to have 4 days off. But that night I started getting phone calls from
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a number I didn't know. And they didn't leave any messages. They just would
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hang up. And I was like, that's so weird. So weird. It must be a
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telemarketer. I'm like, who was this? Okay. And I was like, I really wanted
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to catch the person. It's like, what is going on? Yes. Next
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morning, I finally got a hold of phone call. The call came through
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and it was the lab. And they're like, your numbers are off. And
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I'm like, okay, great. Yeah, great. She's like, you need to go to the emergency
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room right now. Emergency room? And I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm not
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going to the emergency room. And she's like, Yeah, these numbers are off
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and you have to go right now. And I'm like, wait a minute.
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She's like, how do you feel? And I'm like, well, I'm exhausted, but I didn't
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sleep very well. And she's like, yeah, but still go. She's asking me how I
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felt. And I was like, well, if you stop and think about it,
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it's like, well, I don't feel good. I'm exhausted, but I'm
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not, I'm not emergent. Right. I'm not in pain. I'm not
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like passing out. Like I'm just tired and, and that's my normal way
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of being. Yeah. So, and she was telling me that these
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numbers were like in the 700s and 800s and I'm like, I, this doesn't mean
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anything to me. What were they supposed to be in? 12. 12.
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Wow. Okay. 12, 13, 14, you know, something like that. And I was like, oh,
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that's bad. So what were they afraid was gonna happen? Like if it was
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autoimmune, like what were the consequences if you didn't go. To the emergency room?
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Sudden death. Okay. Yeah. I mean, cuz you don't think
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that autoimmune is gonna cause death from what I've heard. Well,
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in the space I was in, it could cause organ failure. Okay. Yeah.
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But it's like, I was head down and I felt like I was
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doing okay because I just like, you know, just one more day,
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just one more day, or just one more day. We've all been there. Just, just
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one more day. I can get through this. I can get through this. Then no,
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no, you can't. You know, that started a whole series of doctors. I
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didn't think I needed it and I didn't want to, and I wasn't doing well,
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so I had to get through all of this. And I just
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was like, hmm, okay. So the protocol, so you went to the hospital,
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did they keep you there? I did not go to the hospital. I rejected her
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suggestion and she's like, okay, fine. I'm making a doctor's appointment for you
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on Monday. And I'm like, you know, it's a holiday. Nobody's gonna be there.
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Yeah. I am still not taking this very seriously. Uh-huh. And
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she, she, she was like, no, you're going. It will be at
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8:30 on Monday morning. And that just started a whole process
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of bringing my numbers down, bringing my body back
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into homeostasis, and then fear
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of what am I taking and what is it doing to me? You know, I
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was on steroids and prednisone and, and stuff that
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is bringing inflammation down in my body. And I was like, what is this? I
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don't want this. Right. What else is it doing? Yeah. What else is it doing
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to me? My big question was, is there any long-term
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effects? Mm-hmm. I never got a straight answer. Also, I'm sure
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they were like, well, they were waiting out what are the long-term effects if
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you're on it, or what are the long-term effects if you're not on it? Yep.
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And, and I'm looking at it more like, I don't wanna be on this stuff,
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you know? Sure. fine. That's And, and then, so then what are your options? You
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know, are there other ways to treat this? I'm a fabulous researcher
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and you put me on medical research and I'll figure it out. And
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I started talking to people and I started talking to the pharmacists.
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They have so many great ideas about different ways to treat things. And early
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on, I had a pharmacist talk to me about low-dose naltrexone,
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which in small doses is an anti-inflammatory. And she was
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telling me about that, and I couldn't get my doctor to listen
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to me about that because I really wanted to try it. That was not the
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protocol that they had set for my autoimmune. So we, we weren't gonna
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look at it, but I started doing research on it and I liked what I
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saw. A lot of the research was in Europe, Germany and
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Sweden. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna find a doctor that will actually do this
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for me that will take this protocol. And lo and behold, it took me,
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it took me 2 and a half, 3 years, but I did find one
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that would do it. And it did put me into remission. It was
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pretty amazing. And I have to say, I got kicked out of the group last
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fall because I'd been in remission for 5 years. That's awesome. Where
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was the doctor? Where were they based? And they're based in Austin. Austin.
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Okay. I didn't know if they were in the US or somewhere outside of—
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No. I found, you know, it's always one of those doctors that does not
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take insurance and of course, just amazing.
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And it's like when I talk to people about my autoimmune, I think there's a
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key for everybody's healing, but everybody's key is different. Right.
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So you have to take the time to figure out what's gonna work for your
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body and really listen. To your body and to,
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to what the different options are out there. And sometimes that's really
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difficult because you don't feel well. And the last thing you wanna
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do is give yourself another job of researching
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all of these options and trying this one and it doesn't
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work and trying that one and it doesn't work and staying motivated to keep digging
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through and testing all these things until you do find something that
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works. Absolutely. And really you're the only person that's gonna do it, right?
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If you're much younger, your mom might do it, but eh.
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And it was easy for me because I will easily
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experiment with things. I'll experiment with supplements, I'll experiment with diet.
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I think diet is the absolute best thing you can do for yourself. Reset
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your gut, eat all your vegetables. I'm gonna sound like your mom. Eat all your
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vegetables and your, your prebiotics, right? The, yeah, your probiotics, your kimchi, your
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sauerkraut and oh my God, I love sauerkraut for breakfast. Don't tell
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anybody. So you found
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this doctor, you're in remission. Bring us up to date now, cuz you
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mentioned heart attack. Yeah. And then, then I thought everything was fine. I'm building
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this business, it's going well, I'm sailing along, and
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then I had a heart attack. A heart attack was very
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hard for me to reconcile. Mm. Because
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I thought I'd learned that you have to take care of yourself, that you have
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to eat You really do have to eat right. You have to sleep, you have
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to slow down and take care of it. And I really thought that was what
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I was doing. And here I get this heart attack
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and it was a spontaneous coronary artery dissection,
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which all that means is that your coronary artery splits
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just randomly. It has nothing to do with cholesterol
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or, you know, heart disease. It just splits. And
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they think part of it is stress. Exercise. I was exercising really
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hard. I was getting back in shape. I was getting really strong and I was
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pushing it and I was excited to be able to do
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that because my body was getting really strong and I was like, yes,
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I'm amazing. And here we go. You get to slow down.
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I don't wanna dissuade anybody from doing the things that you were doing
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because that might not happen. Was it random
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or was it because you were pushing yourself so hard physically
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because there's really, there's plenty of people, and I've had other past guests who have
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talked about, you know, becoming bodybuilders in their 60s. And so
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it is possible. But then my other question was, did
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your experience with the autoimmune set you up to
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be more likely to have a heart attack? You know, maybe that was possible.
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Many times it happens to women who've just had a baby, and they think
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some of it is due to hormone fluctuation. Okay. And stress
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and all of those kinds of things that happen at that very moment when you
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have a baby. So on one hand, I'm feeling fortunate because I, I can't
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even imagine just having a baby and then having a heart attack. It's enough to
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take care of yourself, much less a young one. I'm gonna have to go back
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and see if my autoimmune did anything as thin as, especially
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since, like, I'm just. Thinking like, cuz you're talking about this No, steroid. no,
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no problem. This is what I do. I pose questions and make people think.
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I like, I'm just wondering if all that medication that you were on that you
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were working to get off of and did, but still did that have some
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kind of effect, some residual? Oh, you know, if I go back
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and find out, I'm gonna be mad. I'm gonna be really mad because,
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because I asked so many times, what is the long-term effect
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of this? And maybe they didn't know. It's possible. Yeah. Because there's so many
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possibilities. There's so many possibilities. And
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okay. How can you seriously do a long-term study on
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people with so many different options in their life? But it did happen.
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And so now you're in the aftermath of how do
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you manage through this? You felt like you were doing all the right
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things. So when you look back, were you really doing all the right
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things or did you just think you were? Like in hindsight, do
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you still think you were doing all the right things? Well, I thought I was
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doing the right, you know, I was eating well, I was exercising really hard. Which
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I have definitely backed off from that. But, well,
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because you've been forced to, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad thing
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to be doing. No. And I think everybody, every person,
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everybody is different. You know, it's really gonna depend on you. So I'm not saying
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that if you were exercise really hard, you're gonna have something like this. Yeah. I
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think it was just that luck of the draw, shall we
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say. But when you have a heart attack and you are lucky enough to
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survive, you really take stock of what's going on in your life
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and what's what's truly important. And so many things
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that were important before are just not. My
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family is so much more important. My friends are important.
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The first couple weeks, months, when I was trying to get
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through this, I would wake up at 5:30 normally. That's where I normally wake
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up. I'd have a nap by 9, and then
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I'd have another nap at 1 or 2. And during that time, you
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have to choose what is the one thing that you're going to get done that
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day. I had about an hour, maybe 2 hours
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of focus time, whether it's working with a client or doing some
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marketing. It was 1 or 2 hours. That was it.
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And it was like, you have to choose. Most people have
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that small of a window anyway, but we just push
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ourselves to be more focused. And, you know, nobody's focused for 8
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hours a day. You're just not. Like you wanna be and you think you are,
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but you're not. If you really look at it, don't we all
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kind of have like 1 or 2 hours of super
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focused time in the day? Like that's all you have. I would agree with you.
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Even now I look at a great little book and it just has the top
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5 priorities of the day and you give yourself how much time you're going to
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do on each of those priorities. And the top 2
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are 3 hours. Total, total 3 hours for that.
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But it's like today my priority is talking to you. That's the most
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important thing to me. And that is where my focus is.
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And that's where everything, especially in the morning, is driving
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towards. And I think that one makes us more efficient.
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Yes. I get more things done. Yes. And my phone is
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away and off. Definitely helps. I agree.
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And it's interesting because if you look up the definition of priority, there's
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only one. You mentioned having top 5 priorities,
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but technically you can only have one priority at a time.
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Yes. And so do you feel less stressed and
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more accomplished by having such an intense
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focus? Like this is the one thing, you. Know, when I was lying in the
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hospital, you're looking at the ceiling tile, right? And, and of course
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you're, you're wondering, first thing is why me? How could this happen?
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When the doctor came in and was explaining it to me, I was in such
23:33
denial that I even had a heart attack that I couldn't even
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hear what he was saying to me, much less this is what I was gonna
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have to do, you know, the next 6 months, the next year, whatever.
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I was just like, no, I didn't have a— who are you? No, I didn't
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have a heart attack. There's no way. But then you
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start looking at things and it was like, I have this business that's
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growing. I'm helping people get their lives together so they
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can focus on what's the most important things in their lives,
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whether it's their kids, it's their own health, it's their
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parents. You know, a lot of us now are helping our aging parents.
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And as a business owner, you just don't have as much
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time. So it's like I really started thinking, is, okay, so is it worth
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everything that I've done if I can't actually live it or I can't live
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it the way I thought I was going to live it? I mean, the short
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answer is no. I mean, I'm very lucky that I had an opportunity
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to continue, not necessarily start over, but definitely continue
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to move forward with my life and my business and my friends.
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But it's definitely different. There's structure in there and it's
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all set up. I treat it more like a franchise. So it's like
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there's structure, there's processes, there's things in here
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that I know just run. That you didn't have before. That was my
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goal with starting this business. And then having the heart attack brought
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it to a very fine point. It's like, oh yeah, this is
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exactly why we do this, so that I'm not
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responsible for everything in my business. And now you have
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this personal story to share with people about why
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you helping them do what you've done in your business is so important.
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Yeah, it's like, I get it. I get it.
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I, I am not just talking the talk. I get this
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one on a very innate level.
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Fortunately and unfortunately. Yes. Yes. So what
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has changed? Obviously you have less time to spend on
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intentional focus. What else has changed for you?
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I had joined the mastermind right before the heart attack, but this mastermind
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had 4 or 5 business trips. Around the world. And
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I was like, you know what? I'm going on every single one of these because
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not only do I get to meet amazing people, but you get to
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focus on things outside of yourself, mindset and how to do things
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a little bit differently. And honestly, I needed something to
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look forward to, to do these things. And I am now
26:00
starting to build those pieces in my life. It's like,
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so every month or two, you know, where are 4 or 5 days that I
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can go do something that I'm not bringing my laptop. I'll have
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my phone, but I'm not working. And yes, the last one that I
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just came back from Lake Tahoe. I was going to ask you. I was
26:19
just about to ask you, where were you? I just came back from Lake Tahoe,
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and I did not bring my laptop. And the first day, I was having
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such trouble with not having my laptop. It's very
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uncomfortable. Yes. I mean, what if something happens? I am like the
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only person that can fix it. Yes. And then
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when you start thinking about it, it's so silly because you're like, well, wait a
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second, this is my life. My business is not my
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life. My business is a piece that fits into my life, but it is not
26:48
my life. And then it's like, after I'm like, oh, I have to walk the
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walk, walk my talk. So it's like,
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okay, this is great. And I ended up with a whole afternoon off.
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And my first thought was, I'll get my laptop. Oh, I don't have it. What
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else can I do? Yes, I sat down with a book. I was in the
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lobby of the hotel. I talked to every single person that came through
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the lobby and met some really interesting people
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that I wouldn't have met otherwise. I walked down to the lake, and
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that lake is stunningly gorgeous. Lake Tahoe is one of my
27:20
all-time favorite places in the world. It is a beautiful place.
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And I gave myself that chance, that opportunity to
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just sit down by the lake, watch— it also has a dog park, so the
27:32
dogs are running around— and just truly enjoy
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what was happening around me without me trying to
27:39
control every little piece of it. Yeah. And I think as
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business owners, we love to control everything around us.
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Yes. Dog parks are the best place for that. I feel like
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I love going to dog parks and watching them because they're so
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exuberant and they're so in the moment and they're just like, hey,
27:58
come, let's play. And hey, look at you, new friend. All right,
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come on over. Yeah. And it is very relaxing
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and refreshing to just watch the dogs. We need to
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be more like dogs at a dog park.
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Lyndsey, what is the song that you listen to when you
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need an extra boost of energy? That would be Something's Got a Hold of
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Me. And that— it's a good dance song, gets your blood moving,
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gets your heart pumping. I like it now that my heart's pumping.
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Yes. Keep that running. But it's like I am
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always looking for the fun song, the one that's going to get me out of
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my seat and moving, take that break and just do
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something different. And it's just— it's so much fun.
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I'll put a link to that in the show notes. The other thing I would
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like to put a link to in the show notes is some way for people
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to get in touch with you if they wanna continue a conversation. So what is
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that? Well, my company is Daily Principal, and I am like the
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principal at your school, the PAL. Yes.
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Your pal. I'm your pal. So, and if you
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are not sure if your business is too dependent on you or
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that you actually want to know how dependent it is,
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you can go to my independencenapshot.com
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and it'll take you 3 minutes. There's 8 questions. You just rank
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yourself 1 to 5 and it'll give you an idea of how
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dependent your business is on you. So my whole
29:25
goal is to put systems and structures in place with your
29:28
business so that that business is actually going to run like the
29:32
business you thought you were going to design, you thought you were going to build
29:35
when you very first started. Because we all had that view that it
29:39
was going to be easy, it was going to be fun, we'd have unlimited time,
29:42
unlimited money, and that's why we started our business. So let me help
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you make it that way. Sounds good. I'll, like I said, put a
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link to that in the show notes. Lindsay, thank you so much
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for joining me today on Fine Is a Four-Letter Word. I
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am fine, and thank you so much for inviting me here. I have really
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enjoyed talking to you today.