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Christian Phrases Explained: Understanding Church Language, Communion, Grace, and Faith · The Christian Podcast Community

• 0:00
  So what's going on, everybody?
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  Yo, yo.
• 0:02
  Hey.
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  Hey, dad.
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  How's it going?
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  Back again.
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  Sorry.
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  Well, I mean, feel that energy in the room.
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  Derek here.
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  This guy, me, I'm Derek.
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  Hi.
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  Yeah, I'm Matt.
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  I'm Dave.
• 0:14
  Do you mean the energy in their room or the energy in this room?
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  Because this one, we're spreading the energy live on camera and through the speakers.
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  That's not how that works.
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  My son does this really stupid thing every so often, which is really funny.
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  He'll come up to me and go, hi, dad.
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  And he'll go, love just.
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  Or like, I hope he sees this someday.
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  So embarrassed by that.
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  That is amazing.
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  I hope somebody he knows sees this.
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  That would be even better.
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  I love when my kids have some weird goofy thing they come up to me and do.
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  That makes me laugh.
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  Yep.
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  I.
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  I found out that recently that we have a young man,.
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  Like, I.
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  Don't know, fifth grade maybe, that.
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  That watches us on a pretty basis.
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  Yeah.
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  Shout out to the fifth grader.
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  What's his name?
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  Do you know?
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  I don't want to like him.
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  Okay.
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  It's a fifth grade.
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  You know who you are.
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  If you're in fifth grade and you're.
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  Watching this is it fifth grade.
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  He might be sixth grade.
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  Might be sixth grade.
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  Oh, man, now I feel bad.
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  Hold on.
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  Yeah, I kind of want to.
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  It's okay.
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  It's.
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  It's.
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  So why don't you go ahead and comment which grade you're in, then we'll.
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  No.
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  Out yourself.
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  No, please don't comment.
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  I'm wondering if it's who I'm thinking that would be interesting.
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  Well, my son's in seventh grade and he got his little map test back.
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  I think it was yesterday or the day before.
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  And it shows that he's in the top 82% of the country.
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  And he's at a 10th grade math level at the moment, which is like, bravo, bravo.
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  Yeah.
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  My daughter is actually right at seventh grade math level and she's in fourth grade.
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  There you go.
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  Yep.
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  I'm pretty sure I'm at a fourth grade math level and I'm 43, so.
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  Yeah, well, my reading comprehension.
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  Actually my reading comprehension is probably pretty good.
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  My reading is not fair enough.
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  So.
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  Interesting.
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  No, it's Abel.
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  How old's Abel?
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  Do you know?
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  He's in sixth grade.
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  Is he sixth grade?
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  My bad, dude.
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  Yeah.
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  Much love.
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  Six owes you an apology.
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  I was thinking he was middle school, but I couldn't remember, so.
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  Yep.
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  But hey, thanks for watching Shout out.
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  To you yeah, he's actually amazing young dude.
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  He is a really cool guy.
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  So.
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  Yeah.
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  All right, so shout out to Abel for being awesome.
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  Being awesome.
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  You know, hey, if you want a hat, swing by and I'll give you one.
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  Yes.
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  But you, you've got to.
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  You got to buy apology at this point.
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  I don't know.
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  Do you know any other ables.
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  I don't think I've ever heard Abel.
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  Well, maybe one time I've heard of.
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  This one in the Bible.
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  There is one in the Bible.
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  Hey.
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  Hey.
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  Do you know why Cain is his.
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  His offering was rejected.
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  Because he killed Abel.
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  Because he wasn't able.
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  I shouldn't have.
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  It's not a joke.
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  I'm just.
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  It was a real.
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  Actually legitimately don't know.
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  Oh, I thought you had like response.
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  No punchline.
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  I was like waiting for the punchline.
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  You're lucky you didn't have a punchline.
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  I didn't realize we were going to go into something theologically deep there.
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  I thought we were keeping it light hearted.
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  Oh, yeah, we're supposed to, aren't we?
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  Dude, it's.
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  It's been a long week.
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  I forgot.
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  What.
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  What are we talking about today?
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  What's.
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  What.
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  What's up, Dave?
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  You.
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  You picked the topic.
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  I don't even remember.
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  I don't even remember I did it last week.
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  It's up to you.
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  What do you got?
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  Adam, Eve and Kane walk into a bar.
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  No.
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  No.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  Only because they were able.
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  We were talking about church phrases that to Christians sound completely normal.
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  Yeah, to Christians sound completely normal.
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  But to the outside world make us sound like we're a psychotic cult.
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  Oh, this will be fun.
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  Mm.
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  So that's what we're going to talk about today.
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  I don't want to get into it quite yet.
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  Okay.
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  What do you want to get there quietly?
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  It's because he hasn't thought of them yet.
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  Oh no, because I'm trying to keep my mind clear so that it's fresh when.
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  Okay.
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  You know, because it's fun.
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  Yeah.
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  So brought to you today by the word transubstantiation.
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  Ooh.
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  What in the world?
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  Should we start doing a word of the week?
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  Look that up and put the definition in the comments.
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  If you're actually paying attention, you'll get it right.
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  All right.
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  So yeah, that's what we're talking about today.
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  What book of the Bible are you reading today?
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  The Bible.
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  What book of the Bible?
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  It's your favorite one.
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  I know it is, but which one?
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  It's your favorite.
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  We're gonna read Psalms.
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  Oh, I love the Psalms.
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  I was gonna say he has 66 favorite books.
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  I don't know.
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  He does have 66 favorite Bible books.
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  I do, actually.
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  He might have, like, what was it, 70 something.
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  I know.
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  I don't.
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  I don't.
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  I don't put the Apocrypha or any of that stuff at the same level.
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  So the book of Enoch, he's an Enoch lover.
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  I.
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  What?
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  Only describing things to him.
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  All right.
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  Although I do have.
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  I never did get into that whole thing, like the book of Enoch and the.
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  Was it like there's supposedly like a book of Mary and they're supposed to be like.
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  It's rubbish.
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  It's rubbish.
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  Well, okay.
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  The book of Enoch is not rubbish.
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  No, that one's.
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  But the book of all the other gospels that are the fake ones.
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  They're all rubbish.
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  Yeah, there you go.
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  Gospel of Thomas is rubbish.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  There's a lot out there that's not any good, but yeah.
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  Do I do have these 66 books that are like, my favorite.
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  That are your favorite books?
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  He's got one for every topic that we talk about on here, probably, and probably even more than that.
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  So.
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  Yeah, I really.
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  I don't know what I was reading.
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  And one of my favorite ones today, which was the book of John.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, that's my favorite.
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  That is my favorite.
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  Is it your favorite?
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  Yeah, that's my favorite book.
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  Yeah, it's.
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  I love.
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  It's just the best gospel.
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  I'm just saying it's the best gospel.
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  Okay.
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  I.
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  It's the most digestible.
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  Would you say it's the most easiest to understand?
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  I guess it depends on who you are.
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  Well, I think that the other gospels are good for different things.
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  What if your name is Cindy?
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  Like, I think the other gospels are good for certain things.
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  Right.
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  But I think that if you're just gonna read one of the gospels, John is the best one.
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  I would agree.
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  Okay.
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  And I feel like.
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  Mostly because it reads like a.
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  Like a book, like a story.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  I mean.
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  Yeah, I guess so.
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  But you also have like.
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  So for instance, Luke, you know, Luke starts kind of like Matthew does at the birth narrative, all the way to the death.
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  Sure.
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  So that's always like a.
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  A point.
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  Right.
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  Like, they have.
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  They have.
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  They're.
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  There's.
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  They're more directed at a certain audience and thing, whereas John is like, hey, everybody, Jesus loves you.
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  Hey.
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  You know, like, I mean, it's just like that.
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  Yeah.
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  Anyways, so we're going to talk about some.
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  Some things that make us seem like a cult.
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  And we'll see if there any truth to it.
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  So I'll tell you what we're doing.
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  I'll concede and I'll say that John is one of the top four gospels.
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  It's number one.
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  All right, look, guys, I know this is going to be a crazy episode today.
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  We're going to be all over the place.
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  Buckle up, buttercup.
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  Welcome to the truth response.
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  In the noise, in the fire we seek the truth.
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  We climb higher not just echoes, not just talk we walk the path, we walk the wall.
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  Truth in the battle light in the.
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  Loss.
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  What we see Clarity and chaos.
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  Dave, would you like to pray for us?
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  Oh, sure.
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  Why not?
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  All right, cool.
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  Thank you, Jesus, for these amazing people.
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  Thank you for all the opportunities that we have to spread your word.
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  Thank you for this opportunity to spread your word across platforms and across countries and continents and everything else.
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  I pray that you guide our conversation and help keep our own opinions out of this and keep your opinions in it.
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  In Jesus name, amen.
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  Amen.
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  All right, so where are we going with you?
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  You said you didn't want to, like,.
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  You didn't want to reveal.
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  Did you have something unlocking?
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  No, no, no.
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  I want.
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  I just.
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  When you hit it, when you hit, like, hey, what about this?
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  I want to be able to like, hit it fresh because like, when I have too much time to prepare, I overthink it.
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  All right, give us a warm up.
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  A warm up.
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  All right, so let's see.
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  How about like God put you on my heart, right?
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  That's semi okay.
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  But what, what, what?
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  I'm from the outside.
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  I've never heard of God before.
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  You walk up and say, God put you on my heart today.
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  Like, I guess that would be kind of strange.
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  It would be kind of weird.
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  Or let's see.
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  How about that?
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  I'm in a season of pruning.
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  How about that?
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  Yeah.
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  So I'm into botany.
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  Right.
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  Like, that's where your mind went.
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  Right.
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  I'm thinking about some old guy.
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  I'm in a season of pruning.
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  Like guy eating prunes to try to.
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  Stay regular, you know, or taking a bath too long.
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  Sure.
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  I'm in a season of pruning.
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  I really gotten into pruning in the bathtub lately.
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  Like, it just sounds so great.
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  Yeah.
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  Yep.
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  So some weird.
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  Some guy you're working with and like, hey, man, how's it going at the church right now?
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  Like, good.
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  I'm kind of in a season of pruning.
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  Right now, and he's gonna go, what.
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  What.
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  What do you mean you're in.
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  A season of pruning's out in the baptizery all day, you know?
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  So how would you define a season of pruning?
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  How would I define it?
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  Like, for real, explain it to somebody.
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  Who doesn't understand it.
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  I.
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  Basically, it's.
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  It's.
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  It's trying to remove things that you know are not from God or are holding you back from your relationship from God and finding those little areas that.
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  That God helps reveal to you that it's like, all right, this is something that you could be without.
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  This is something that's not helpful.
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  Yeah.
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  And I think that can include the ministries that.
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  That, you know, started to bud and then didn't bloom.
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  Right.
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  Like, things that.
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  That.
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  That are things you thought were the right direction.
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  And then the more you got into it, the more you realize, well, this is like, this is not where God wants me.
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  And so I need to cut that off.
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  Yeah.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, honestly, it does work outside of the church, because sometimes people need to do some pruning in their own life.
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  Like, hey, I need to get rid of this.
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  My schedule's too full.
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  But in the church, I mean, it's Christ especially, you know, it's trying to find those areas that they might not be bad, but they're not helping you go forward, and so therefore, you can be.
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  Let them go.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, it's one of the things that.
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  When.
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  I know, when Pastor Nick got hired in Rice Christian Church, he had asked the question, you know, are you willing to give up a ministry that's working for one that's better?
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  And I was like, that's an amazing question to ask because there are so many people.
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  It's like, well, it's not.
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  This ministry isn't bad.
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  Yeah.
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  It may not be bad, but it's not going anywhere.
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  It's not really doing anything.
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  It's just there.
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  So why not?
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  We got to let that go so we can do something better.
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  Yeah.
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  So pruning can be from good things.
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  Right.
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  For the better things, but also, like,.
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  I mean, just getting rid of it.
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  Like, maybe your language needs burning.
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  Mm.
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  You know, maybe you're too harsh with people.
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  True.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, you realize that it's like, okay, I gotta.
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  Like.
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  And maybe it's not even, like, the words, but maybe the tone.
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  Right.
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  And you're not meaning to be, but.
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  But maybe it's just like, okay, yeah, maybe I need to work on.
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  On that.
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  And get rid of that nasty tone or be more conscious of that.
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  I would say that's also.
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  Yeah, pruning, you know, Absolutely.
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  Whatever you did, just stop the buzzing.
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  Says, cool, good job.
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  Cool.
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  So, yeah, essentially you could break it down as, say, you're going through a season of changing habits and correction.
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  Right.
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  So you're like, all right, I'm headed that direction.
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  It's not working very well.
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  So same kind of thing.
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  Hey, I'm not healthy, so I'm getting healthier.
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  I'm, you know, using coarse language.
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  So I'm learning to not use coarse language.
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  Yeah.
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  Anything that's not producing fruit.
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  Ooh, there's another one.
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  Right.
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  And plays off of it, which, I mean, usually you can easily tie that to the fruit of the spirit.
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  Right.
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  Like so.
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  Which is what?
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  Which is another part of that.
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  Things that sound out there, which is the fruit of the spirit, are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, self control.
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  I probably missed one, but.
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  And if I missed one, you caught it.
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  Brownie points.
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  Put it in the comments.
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  Put in the comments.
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  But, yeah, so those things, the things that, you know, self control, like that is a fruit, you know, and if something in your life is not, you know, allowing you to be productive in that self control area, then
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  you got to cut it.
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  Yeah.
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  So.
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  Nope, that's true.
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  I went through a pretty heavy season where I had to admit to my wife that, like, I literally have no joy at the moment.
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  Now, I tend to feed off of the energy of others.
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  So to.
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  To, To, To a degree, I manifest joy.
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  In a minute.
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  I show up and I'm like, hey, you guys are happy, I'm happy.
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  And it just tends to kick in.
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  But then as soon as they leave and as soon as that interaction's over, then it's.
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  Well, that's.
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  That's how you know it's not joy.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, because it went away.
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  Joy is something that kind of hangs out even if you're not happy.
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  They're not the same.
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  Interesting.
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  So there's a big difference between manifest happiness and joy.
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  Inner joy, obviously, is just an inner feeling that just stays locked in.
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  And happiness is fleeting.
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  Maybe.
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  Okay.
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  I'm not disagreeing.
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  I was gonna say that played really well on an audio podcast.
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  So what's another thing?
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  That's.
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  How about we're unequally yoked.
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  Well, you know, that's something that happens.
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  Whenever you've got more breakfast than I do.
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  That's what I was gonna say.
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  He got more eggs than you got to it.
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  That's 100% where I was going with that.
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  Oh, man.
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  Yeah, I guess that.
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  Which is really funny.
• 14:26
  That is really funny because that is not even anywhere near what that actually is.
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  That's not even the reference.
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  Right.
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  Like, that's not the yolk that it's even talking about yolk.
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  The yolk's on you, man.
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  So if anybody out there doesn't know what it means to be unequally yoked, obviously we're talking about people who are in completely different stages.
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  What is.
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  What is a yoke?
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  Right.
• 14:50
  What is a yoke?
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  What is a yoke?
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  A yoke is a.
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  Oh, my gosh.
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  How do I even describe it?
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  It's a wooden apparatus that would go around two.
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  What they called oxen.
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  There you go.
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  That would cause them to walk the same direction at the same time, thus making the plow easier to pull.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  What's leading you?
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  So if you got.
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  It's very interesting.
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  I'll put it in a practical way.
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  When you have two oxen, right?
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  Even if you have an oxen over here, an ox over there, if what's your lead?
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  It's leading you forward, and what's.
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  What's driving you forward is different, then that's unequally yoked.
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  If you're on the same thing and you have one that's trying to pull against the other one that's unequally yoked.
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  But we want something where both people are going at the same time, it's really important for relationships, both sometimes friendships, but all but most very importantly in romantic relationships, especially, you know, marriage, because you want to be going
• 15:44
  at the same time, you want the Lord to be pushing you both kind of forward in your faith together, working on it together.
• 15:50
  And the danger there is that when you have one that's kind of rising about the other, the one will either pull the other one down.
• 16:00
  Right.
• 16:00
  Which happens more time than not, which can cause.
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  You know, Or.
• 16:05
  Or.
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  Or they'll be left behind.
• 16:07
  Yep.
• 16:07
  And either way.
• 16:08
  And so.
• 16:09
  And that usually is when communication is normal, right?
• 16:16
  Like, as in, like normal human communication, which is lacking.
• 16:20
  Right?
• 16:21
  Yeah.
• 16:21
  But I think that once when.
• 16:22
  If you're actually communicating, you can.
• 16:27
  If you're.
• 16:28
  If you're.
• 16:28
  Intentional, I can slow down a little bit.
• 16:32
  You could speed up a little bit.
• 16:34
  We meet in the middle, and then we move together at the same pace.
• 16:37
  You know, sometimes we have to slow down and wait for people.
• 16:40
  I mean, it just is a thing that's part of patience.
• 16:43
  Right.
• 16:44
  I think of like.
• 16:46
  Okay, so a practical example is I had my students out for pe.
• 16:54
  I was doing PE on Monday and I'm not usually the PE coach, so.
• 16:59
  So I had them.
• 17:01
  Them walking in pairs and I kept telling them, all right, you got to walk together with your pair.
• 17:07
  Well, when they paired themselves off, they, they wanted to be beside each other, so they stayed in their pairs.
• 17:14
  But then I had them shift pairs and I just made them all go back one.
• 17:20
  You know, one.
• 17:21
  One half of them go back a pair and all of a sudden they did not want to stay together.
• 17:27
  There was several that were cool, but it was like teaching them like, look, this is discipline.
• 17:34
  Who you're walking beside.
• 17:36
  Yep.
• 17:36
  You need to not run ahead of.
• 17:38
  But also like, if somebody is outpacing you a little bit, just be aware because sometimes you can catch up, sometimes you're just dragging, you know, so as much as, I mean, yes.
• 17:51
  In that relationship, that's how we normally hear about it.
• 17:53
  Right.
• 17:53
  Is in the relationships.
• 17:55
  And, and usually it's in reference to a Christian and non Christian who are dating or whatever, you know, But I think that sometimes we, we can look at it in a way that like, all right, I gotta slow
• 18:10
  down a little bit.
• 18:10
  Yep.
• 18:11
  I gotta wait.
• 18:11
  I gotta wait for this because I, I know that this is the right person.
• 18:15
  You know, say, you know, I are doing a ministry together or doing a project together or like a podcast or whatever, and you're like way ahead of me on whatever it is.
• 18:26
  You're like just gung ho sometimes.
• 18:28
  You gotta slow down a little bit.
• 18:29
  Right.
• 18:30
  And then wait for me to catch up.
• 18:32
  How do you feel this would translate to?
• 18:35
  Let's say you're.
• 18:36
  I don't know, let's.
• 18:37
  Let's say you've got one or the two of you.
• 18:39
  I mean, this is your job.
• 18:40
  The full time pastor.
• 18:42
  Have you had interactions with your wife where she has.
• 18:45
  And I'm not calling her out specifically, I'm thinking just wives in general or whoever is in the ministry.
• 18:49
  And the one who's not is.
• 18:51
  I feel like you're so far ahead of me when it comes to spirituality, I feel like I shouldn't even try to keep up.
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  I feel inferior.
• 19:00
  Any of that.
• 19:01
  No, I would not say that to that level.
• 19:04
  I think my wife and I are very equally yoked when it comes to our heart for wanting to understand the Bible.
• 19:18
  I might be a little more advanced in understanding and interpretation and such like that, but she is there with me.
• 19:28
  We know how to love the Lord together.
• 19:30
  And I have my strengths in it.
• 19:32
  She's got her strengths in it.
• 19:34
  But, I mean, our lives, though, are complementary of each other, where we both bring something to the table at every level that evens the other person out and shows us why God created us to be together and be
• 19:47
  the team.
• 19:47
  That's why I call her my rib to where, like, she is the perfect helper for me.
• 19:53
  You know, if this isn't my strong suit, there's a good chance it's hers and vice versa, you know?
• 20:00
  Yeah.
• 20:00
  There's times where she looks at me and goes, hey, what do you think about this thing in the Bible?
• 20:04
  Or something like that, and.
• 20:06
  Which is not a bad thing for her to defer to, you know, at that moment.
• 20:12
  But, you know.
• 20:14
  You know, especially because, you know, we're, as the men, we're supposed to be leading the house spiritually.
• 20:18
  So, I mean, that's.
• 20:19
  That's a good thing.
• 20:20
  But I'm not trying to leave her behind, either.
• 20:22
  I'm.
• 20:22
  I'm trying to drag her along.
• 20:24
  She's usually one of the first people, though.
• 20:26
  When I get little gold, especially when I'm at home studying, I'll get these little golden nuggets, and I'll be like, oh, my gosh, this thing I just saw.
• 20:32
  Oh, my gosh, this thing I just discovered.
• 20:34
  I never saw it before, but I want to tell you.
• 20:36
  And then I want to tell the world.
• 20:37
  Sure.
• 20:39
  And I love it when she does the same.
• 20:41
  Like, she's going through a Bible study recently, and she's like, oh, my goodness, this thing.
• 20:45
  I'm like, all right, cool.
• 20:46
  And we got to talk about it.
• 20:47
  So, no, I think we've been a little more intentional in some ways about that, and there's times where we'll recognize that we have not been as diligent, But I don't know.
• 21:01
  I get really jazzed when I know she's, you know, actively studying and.
• 21:05
  Yep.
• 21:06
  Well, I remember the reason I brought it up is because back when I used.
• 21:10
  So I was a painter and a cabinet finisher for a while.
• 21:12
  When I.
• 21:12
  When I moved down here, I was working in a cabinet shop, so I had tons of time while I'm in there just spraying cabinet doors and stuff.
• 21:18
  I have my headphones in, and I think I went through, like, 37 audiobooks in.
• 21:22
  In a year or something like that, including Bible and everything else.
• 21:26
  So then I would come home and say, oh, my gosh.
• 21:27
  So I read this thing, and I went through the entire book of Romans, and I figured this kind of stuff out.
• 21:31
  And at some point, my wife goes, I wish I had Even a fraction of how much time you have to be able to consume all of this stuff.
• 21:38
  I feel like I'm just not anywhere near where you are because you have all this information and all that stuff.
• 21:43
  So I can.
• 21:44
  I can see how, to a degree, the thought of being unequally ill can possibly make one spouse feel like I'm being left in the dust.
• 21:54
  So how.
• 21:54
  So what's a practical way that let's.
• 21:56
  Let's say we were back in that situation because we're out of it now.
• 21:59
  But let's see.
• 21:59
  We're back in that situation where I'm learning all of this stuff and she doesn't have time to learn all this stuff.
• 22:04
  How can I.
• 22:05
  How can I practically bring her along with me without just barfing all over when I get home?
• 22:09
  Learn something new together.
• 22:11
  Yeah.
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  Go through something.
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  Go.
• 22:14
  Go through a study.
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  Go through a passage together that you're not working on on your own.
• 22:22
  And that way she will feel or he will feel like you're on that same page.
• 22:28
  Okay.
• 22:29
  You're literally on that same path.
• 22:31
  Yeah.
• 22:31
  Creating.
• 22:31
  Finding a different time to where you can do it together is a wonderful thing.
• 22:37
  And getting around the awkwardness of it, that was one of the hardest things, I think, that we had to learn was like, I don't know.
• 22:45
  We.
• 22:45
  We've been in ministry.
• 22:47
  You know, we've prayed together.
• 22:48
  But actually intentionally setting aside time to pray and read scripture was weird.
• 22:55
  Yep.
• 22:55
  I mean, everything takes some growing.
• 22:57
  When my wife and I first got together, she wasn't.
• 23:01
  She was kind of bashful, really, about praying in front of me, you know, and I would.
• 23:07
  Well, that's weird.
• 23:09
  I was like, no.
• 23:10
  Yeah.
• 23:10
  Oh, this is going to be something you're going to do.
• 23:13
  And I'm putting my foot down.
• 23:15
  Well, it wasn't as much that.
• 23:17
  It was just like, I now have a project, and you're going to pray in front of me at some point, and I'm going to work on this, even if it's suddenly.
• 23:22
  Does she listen to this?
• 23:24
  Oh, I sometimes.
• 23:25
  And I.
• 23:25
  Baby, you know, project first.
• 23:30
  Oh, my gosh.
• 23:31
  I don't know.
• 23:32
  Ladies, I know you heard that you.
• 23:33
  Might get the hit this season, but now she does.
• 23:38
  She prays with me.
• 23:41
  She prays with me and, you know, and all that stuff.
• 23:43
  So it's.
• 23:43
  It's great.
• 23:44
  So I always want to push it forward.
• 23:46
  I mean, like, she expects me to kind of jump in front of her some.
• 23:49
  A lot of times, because, I mean, I get paid to do this, but, you know, I really I think it's important to.
• 23:57
  Yeah.
• 23:57
  Set up those times where.
• 23:58
  And even if you're not.
• 24:00
  Even if you're not studying the same material, have a time to study together.
• 24:05
  So even if you're reading your Bible, she's reading her Bible study.
• 24:08
  And find that way of going, hey, this thing.
• 24:11
  Hey, that thing.
• 24:12
  And then talking about it.
• 24:13
  And that is huge.
• 24:15
  Although I agree 100 on that.
• 24:18
  I think that if you're not studying together something, you need to.
• 24:23
  I think that it's important.
• 24:25
  And it doesn't mean, like, every day.
• 24:27
  Of course.
• 24:28
  Don't forget every day, you know, but like, if you need to have some regular times where you're actually studying things together, because there is something special about that, that you're discovering things together.
• 24:40
  You're praying with each other together intentionally over these things that you're studying through.
• 24:45
  I think that's important.
• 24:46
  I've been blessed to have a wife who was raised like me in the church, chose at a young age to believe and understood it.
• 24:59
  And.
• 25:00
  I don't know, we both went to Bible college.
• 25:02
  She's actually got her master's degree.
• 25:04
  I just have a measly little bachelor's degree.
• 25:08
  She wanted me to call her master, and I said no, I can totally.
• 25:12
  Hear her doing that.
• 25:13
  She totally did.
• 25:14
  She pushed it, too.
• 25:14
  And I was like, I think you should.
• 25:17
  Yeah.
• 25:19
  So, yeah.
• 25:20
  No, but I've been blessed that we're so incredibly different in our knowledge.
• 25:26
  Sure.
• 25:27
  Because I am constantly debating, thinking through, you know, processing, like, why's the why's the whys.
• 25:34
  But she's got all the history knowledge that I do not have.
• 25:38
  She can be like, oh, well, this person and this person and this person and this person.
• 25:43
  I mean, I'm not saying that I know everything.
• 25:45
  I know that sounds like that's what I'm saying.
• 25:47
  But I'm saying, like, I got the concepts and I understand, like, the.
• 25:51
  The do's and the don'ts, and I understand the, like, why this practically hits here.
• 25:55
  And I can.
• 25:55
  I can even quote.
• 25:57
  I can't necessarily tell you where it's found all the time, but I can.
• 26:00
  I know what it says, you know, But I'm so used to the debate and the backing up, you know, the belief and the almost the apologetics of just in Scripture.
• 26:09
  Right.
• 26:10
  Whereas she just.
• 26:11
  She just understands, like, history and she understands the dates and the people and all that.
• 26:17
  That stuff that I can't ever remember.
• 26:19
  I'm terrible at history.
• 26:20
  So we've been a great compliment together throughout our marriage.
• 26:24
  So you just Got to make sure that when you're having the communication about it, you're not being the dominating force, where it's just kind of like you're not going, hey, honey, did you do your 15 minutes today?
• 26:36
  We don't want to do that.
• 26:36
  We don't make.
• 26:37
  Really.
• 26:38
  I mean, my wife does that to me.
• 26:39
  Makes sure I do other things.
• 26:41
  Sure.
• 26:45
  You got to understand, my wife is a.
• 26:47
  She's a holistic practitioner, and she's a nutritionist.
• 26:51
  And so she'll be like, did you.
• 26:53
  Did you eat this thing today?
• 26:55
  Did you eat that again?
• 26:56
  Like, did you do.
• 26:57
  Did you take this thing I told you to take?
• 27:00
  I promise I didn't offer him one of these.
• 27:02
  No, he didn't.
• 27:02
  What.
• 27:03
  What you got next?
• 27:04
  What's next?
• 27:04
  How about they say, hey, buddy, what you guys doing tonight?
• 27:08
  And you say, we're gonna partake of the buddy and the blood.
• 27:11
  You know, I like this one.
• 27:13
  I'm gonna let you take this here in just a second.
• 27:15
  But I like this one because it was even confusing in Jesus's day.
• 27:19
  Sure.
• 27:19
  There were people that left following him because they didn't understand that whenever he.
• 27:26
  Whenever he was like, you know, I tell you, if you don't eat of my flesh and drink of my blood, you cannot, you know, whatever, be my disciple.
• 27:33
  And was like, oh, we're out.
• 27:35
  This is weird.
• 27:36
  No, this just got real weird, you know?
• 27:41
  So, yeah, take it away.
• 27:42
  But that's.
• 27:42
  I love this one because of that.
• 27:44
  Like, it's.
• 27:45
  So.
• 27:46
  It bridges the gap between today and then.
• 27:48
  Yep.
• 27:48
  So.
• 27:48
  Well, I often wonder how many people walked away because of things like that.
• 27:52
  And then later on, like, years and years and years later, like, somebody comes like, oh, no, no, this is what he meant.
• 27:56
  And like, seriously, like, my gosh.
• 28:00
  Well, I mean, yeah, it is kind of strange to be like, we're going to drink some blood and eat some flesh tonight.
• 28:07
  It's like, what kind of cult are you in anyway?
• 28:10
  No, but it's.
• 28:11
  It's.
• 28:11
  I would love for you to say that from stage with a single spotlight on you and moving darkness,.
• 28:17
  We're going.
• 28:17
  To eat some flesh and drink some blood.
• 28:19
  I don't think I could write it like that.
• 28:20
  And it's.
• 28:21
  All right.
• 28:22
  Anyway, it's our vampire werewolf cult, right?
• 28:24
  So, yeah, I mean, obviously.
• 28:30
  All right, so when we.
• 28:31
  We'll take it back to Exodus, I.
• 28:34
  Say, you're going to, like, give a whole dissertation on this one instead of just, like, explaining it in layman's terms,.
• 28:42
  You know, he is the.
• 28:43
  He's the Exodus, they had a Passover meal, and it was a lamb, it was slain, right.
• 28:50
  And the blood was poured over.
• 28:52
  And then they were to eat the lamb in the house that was protected.
• 28:58
  And he, his blood and his flesh represent the new Passover.
• 29:02
  And we eat of the flesh and we drink of the wine.
• 29:04
  And he.
• 29:05
  He told us, you know, you need to take this on.
• 29:07
  But with basically taking on what I'm doing for you, right.
• 29:11
  And keeping it as part of yourself, letting it become part of yourself, to where you are now, connected to me forever.
• 29:18
  And what's amazing about the taking of our communion, you know, some churches call it the Eucharist or some weird word.
• 29:26
  So is that culty word, you know, I like saying communion.
• 29:32
  And I'll tell you why.
• 29:33
  Because, number one, there's something amazing of having something that you all share both in belief and in physical form.
• 29:42
  You know, if I were to take an apple and split it into three pieces and give each of us a pair, and we all three ate of the apple.
• 29:49
  We all have that apple inside.
• 29:51
  We share that apple together.
• 29:53
  What makes the parts of that apple that are going to now be part of our makeup, we share in each other in that same way we share in Christ.
• 30:00
  We are all part of his body, that his body has become part of us.
• 30:04
  And so that's an amazing thing to share together and have that.
• 30:08
  But also the idea is that, you know, we're.
• 30:11
  We're saying as we take part in this in our faith together as one, that we believe in Christ and the sacrifice he's done for us.
• 30:19
  And when we partake in that, we're saying it as one.
• 30:22
  That.
• 30:23
  That is why we're doing this.
• 30:24
  Yep.
• 30:25
  So let me, Let me.
• 30:26
  Let me actually clear it up.
• 30:27
  I mean, that was good, good dissertation guy over here.
• 30:30
  But I was gonna say.
• 30:32
  No, Just, just, just the part that he left out is that it's not actual blood.
• 30:36
  It's not actual flesh.
• 30:39
  It.
• 30:39
  It was originally wine that represented Christ's blood and bread that represented his body.
• 30:47
  And that is what we traditionally will use or grape juice or something of.
• 30:53
  Of that type of.
• 30:55
  It's not actual blood.
• 30:56
  It's not actual flesh, and it does not turn into actual blood.
• 31:01
  And it does not turn into.
• 31:02
  There was that case that has been investigated and considered a miracle by the Catholic Church that there was one guy that prayed in the Eucharist actually turned into flesh with a very particular kind of blood.
• 31:16
  Just so you know.
• 31:17
  So let's be careful about how much wear things.
• 31:21
  But I will say Though, that the symbolism is important of what we're doing.
• 31:25
  And it's not really about actual blood and flesh in physical form as it is in our hearts so that we understand why it is what we do.
• 31:34
  It's okay.
• 31:35
  So then the.
• 31:35
  As you call from the layman.
• 31:37
  So obviously you're sitting here, you're discussing everything.
• 31:40
  Okay, so the.
• 31:41
  The.
• 31:41
  What's the word?
• 31:42
  The representation, the crackers and the juice, essentially.
• 31:45
  All right.
• 31:45
  We even go back to, like, the initial table where he's breaking bread and then giving wine and things of that nature.
• 31:52
  Why.
• 31:52
  Why are we referring to it as blood and flesh when we're eating bread?
• 31:56
  And.
• 31:56
  Because he took the bread and he broke it, and he said, this is my body broken for you.
• 32:01
  And in remembrance of what he.
• 32:02
  Of him.
• 32:03
  I'm just questioning his lingo.
• 32:05
  Okay.
• 32:05
  And he took the wine, he said, this is the.
• 32:07
  My blood that's poured out for you.
• 32:09
  And so those are the reasons why we call them these things is that's what he said.
• 32:13
  Do you think they had any overly practical people at the table of, like, that's not.
• 32:17
  That's not flesh?
• 32:19
  I don't think so at that point.
• 32:20
  And the reason I say I don't think so at that point, because they had been daily walking with Jesus and hearing the way he talked, and it wasn't the first time they'd heard, you know, that phrase because he
• 32:32
  had spoken it before that and people had left.
• 32:34
  So I don't think that it was a surprise then.
• 32:38
  It might have been a surprise to them.
• 32:39
  Even the first time was like.
• 32:42
  You might have to explain that one to us a little bit, you know?
• 32:45
  But I don't think that was a surprise.
• 32:48
  I don't know.
• 32:49
  And.
• 32:49
  And I don't know if that was a normal phrase or something that that was used.
• 32:54
  It's not a me thing.
• 32:55
  Remember I just said that.
• 32:56
  I'm not a history guy.
• 32:58
  I know certain pieces of history.
• 33:00
  But I just imagine James, like, handing Peter a piece.
• 33:04
  He's like, here you go.
• 33:04
  And he's like, what is this?
• 33:05
  It's like.
• 33:06
  It's his body.
• 33:06
  Like, dude, it's a piece of bread.
• 33:07
  Like, shh, Listen, He's Jesus.
• 33:09
  Just do it.
• 33:09
  Just.
• 33:10
  His body, man.
• 33:12
  You're gonna question this.
• 33:13
  He turned freaking, you know, five loaves and two fish into, like, 12 baskets of food.
• 33:18
  Dude, that's right.
• 33:19
  Chill.
• 33:23
  This is what I feel like I should write spoon.
• 33:25
  No, we're not cannibals.
• 33:26
  I promise.
• 33:27
  Of course not.
• 33:28
  My goodness.
• 33:29
  All right, what's the next One, let's see.
• 33:31
  Well, I always got hung up.
• 33:32
  One, personally, for me, I used to reference all the time was.
• 33:35
  I remember I was in a service one time where it was super emotional.
• 33:38
  They had a big cross up on the stage and they said, if you're struggling with anything right now, just take it and write it on a piece of paper and, and drop your transgressions at the foot of the
• 33:48
  cross and cover it in the blood.
• 33:50
  And I was like, the what?
• 33:52
  It's like, I don't know, 80% of what you just said.
• 33:55
  I am not a scholar.
• 33:56
  So now being on this side of it, I can, in context go, I think I know what you're saying.
• 34:02
  But like, for the layman, like the very first time, this, maybe there was the first service and they're sitting there and there's like, lean over.
• 34:08
  We're doing what now?
• 34:09
  Well, and we're obviously talking about a lot of symbolism.
• 34:12
  Sure.
• 34:12
  Like that's, that's very symbolic.
• 34:14
  And it's, it's, it's you giving up the piece of you that you're struggling with to Jesus.
• 34:19
  That's all it is.
• 34:20
  And, and letting him deal with it and saying, I understand that I struggle with this.
• 34:25
  I understand that this is a piece of me that I can't fix, and I need you to fix it.
• 34:30
  And I want to leave this, you know, at your feet.
• 34:32
  Because, I mean, that's, that's what it is.
• 34:35
  Yeah, I'm leaving.
• 34:36
  I'm giving this over to you.
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  Because in, I think it's 2nd Corinthians, I think it's 2 Corinthians 12.
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  Tell me if I'm wrong, tell me if I'm wrong.
• 34:50
  Paul talks about how God told him, you know, my grace is sufficient for you.
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  And it was a struggle that I'm assuming that was just keep coming up, coming up, coming up and.
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  Starting to talk like 14 year olds.
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  We hear, you know, him say that, you know, I continue to do the things I don't want to do, but I don't do the things that I want to do.
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  And that struggle, that constant.
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  And God's response to him, instead of taking away, that was like, yeah, my grace is good enough for that too.
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  Whatever that thing is, you know, that we don't ever find out about, necessarily.
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  And, and so it's one of those, those things.
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  It's all right, God.
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  Here you go.
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  You know, I know that your blood is, is, has covered it.
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  And I don't want to do this thing.
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  Sure.
• 35:44
  I recognize that it's Something I shouldn't do.
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  And yet I keep coming back to it.
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  Please take it.
• 35:50
  It's so interesting to take those two, that verse and tie it to this in that way, because, I mean, with the verse that you gave, I mean, God's saying to us, like, I want you to recognize where your
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  limit is so that I can show you where I picked everything up.
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  You know, like, when you go, hey, this is as far as I can go, he's like, great, now I can show you what I can do.
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  That's right.
• 36:12
  You know, in the same way, it's like when we lay it down for him, the foot of the cross, or however you want to word it, it's like, okay, I'm done with this, and I got to give it
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  to you, because you're the one that can take care of this.
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  And he's like, done.
• 36:24
  It's already done, actually.
• 36:25
  And so that's pretty amazing, because the one.
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  The thing, we could never do it.
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  And that's the whole point of the gospel, it's the whole point of why Jesus came, is because we could never do it ourselves, right?
• 36:36
  We could never get ourselves right with God again.
• 36:39
  So God was like, all right, I got it.
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  I've even seen.
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  I think the most amazing one I saw was in that same service.
• 36:45
  I saw a guy.
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  He was.
• 36:46
  He was up front, and he was praying, and then all of a sudden, he, like, looked like he just remembered something, and he ran and he ran away.
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  I'm like, oh, that's weird.
• 36:52
  And then he comes back with a carton of cigarettes, like a.
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  Like a big old carton.
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  And he walks up and he.
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  He drops it.
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  And then all of a sudden, he just stands there.
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  And then he just started crying.
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  And he said, the minute I dropped it, he goes.
• 37:03
  All of a sudden, my craving disappeared.
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  And he's like, I never.
• 37:06
  You know, wild stuff.
• 37:07
  Do you remember when Nick did the.
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  The sermon about dropping the chains?
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  Yeah, dude, that was intense.
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  So he.
• 37:14
  He had two wooden boxes built with chains attached to them.
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  And then, like, you.
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  There was a certain thing that you would read, and you insert your own stuff, and you're holding these chains, and then once you're done, you literally drop it.
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  And the sound of it slamming, it just felt releasing, even.
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  Like it was really cool.
• 37:35
  But that's even something that.
• 37:37
  I mean, that's similar to what you're talking about.
• 37:38
  Like, just that.
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  That things that.
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  That we do or we say that that is symbolic of just letting it go to Jesus, you know, like, take this.
• 37:48
  Yeah.
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  I tell you what, we.
• 37:50
  So this past trip for MOVE for the high schoolers, they had something that they set up as a symbol, and it was so powerful.
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  So what they did is they took one of these.
• 37:59
  These really long big bells that you could go and ring the bell.
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  And so what it symbolized is that you were going from life to death.
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  And here's what they.
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  They said.
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  It's like, you know, back there was a period of time where they had to start developing these systems where they could put a rope down into a casket because they kept burying people alive.
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  And so they thought, well, hold on for a second.
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  Ye.
• 38:23
  This was the strangest thing.
• 38:24
  It is.
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  They were actually burying people alive.
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  Piece of our history.
• 38:27
  At what point I wondered, what point did they figure this out?
• 38:30
  That's what I was wondering.
• 38:31
  Like, so.
• 38:31
  But anyway, they.
• 38:32
  They.
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  Oh, he moved.
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  Okay.
• 38:35
  Yeah.
• 38:35
  So anyway, he said they had a rope so that if they were alive, they could ring the bell and then they'd dig him up.
• 38:41
  And they said, really?
• 38:42
  Basically, without Christ, we're all dead.
• 38:44
  We're.
• 38:45
  We're dead in our sin.
• 38:47
  And.
• 38:47
  But when you accept Christ, you can ring the bell that you're alive and you've chosen life over death.
• 38:54
  And it was powerful because it started slow, you know, but even the first one, you've.
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  The first kid to walk over, and then it was like, wow, that was amazing.
• 39:05
  And everybody kind of felt it, that moment.
• 39:08
  And every time a bell rang, you know, the place would lose their minds and.
• 39:13
  But it was like, ding, ding, ding.
• 39:15
  And then over there, ding, ding, ding.
• 39:16
  Because they had a moke all around the.
• 39:18
  The.
• 39:18
  The room, this huge auditorium.
• 39:21
  And it hit hard every single time.
• 39:27
  And these kids would ring the bell, and then some of them would ring it, and then as soon as it made the sound, they'd break into tears and oh, my goodness, it was wonderful.
• 39:38
  And then it was so powerful.
• 39:39
  And that was one, like night three.
• 39:42
  And then for the next two days, there'd be a student that, like, suddenly was like, it clicked.
• 39:47
  And they're like, nope.
• 39:48
  And they got up and then they'd ring the bell and it could be in the middle of anything, and then the whole place would stop.
• 39:54
  And just.
• 39:54
  I think it's important to point out that if you're listening to this right now and you're like, I don't get it.
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  It's okay, because you won't until you do like that.
• 40:04
  That is just.
• 40:05
  That's the part of Christianity that is the weird part.
• 40:09
  I think for a lot of people who don't believe is that like those things that you're talking about, you don't understand until you tell you do, until you experience it, until you feel that.
• 40:22
  And then it's like, oh, yep, all right.
• 40:26
  Well, I mean, scripture tells us that it's all.
• 40:28
  All this is all the gospel, all of the things in the Bible, it's all foolishness to those who are perishing.
• 40:34
  And until you go from perishing to life and all of it seems like nothing to you.
• 40:38
  Okay.
• 40:39
  Until it finally does.
• 40:40
  Let me do this.
• 40:40
  I have.
• 40:40
  I have a gentleman that I know who is an ultimate.
• 40:45
  Yeah, he's an ultimate cynic.
• 40:47
  Every time I bring anything up Christian, there's always a rebuttal for it, right?
• 40:51
  So I want to meet that person.
• 40:53
  So.
• 40:54
  So you just tell this amazing story about ringing the bell and that kind of stuff.
• 40:58
  And I know for a fact his immediate response is going to be like, well, dude, that's what Christianity is.
• 41:02
  This whole group think, right?
• 41:04
  It's like one guy does it.
• 41:05
  And like, I want to be part of that group now, so I'm gonna do it too.
• 41:07
  Well, now I want of it.
• 41:09
  And that's where you get like.
• 41:10
  Even when I remember back at one of.
• 41:13
  At the church we were at up in Minnesota, I remember there was.
• 41:16
  They would always bring the altar team out during the second song, and there was, hey, if you need prayer, go up for prayer.
• 41:21
  And there was always a strategic, like, hey, I need the three of you to be the first ones to go up, because no one wants to be the first.
• 41:27
  I need you to be the first to draw other people out, which I, to a degree, understand.
• 41:31
  So there's some psychological stuff that goes on.
• 41:33
  But how would you respond when somebody goes, dude, when that kind of stuff happens, it's just.
• 41:38
  It's just group.
• 41:39
  Oh, I want to be part of it.
• 41:40
  I want to be part.
• 41:40
  I don't like that.
• 41:41
  Okay?
• 41:42
  I don't like, like the bait, the baiting, baiting things to happen.
• 41:47
  I don't.
• 41:48
  I don't like that.
• 41:48
  Because the Holy Spirit's good enough, right?
• 41:51
  Like, like you.
• 41:52
  You are saying that you don't trust the Holy Spirit enough to move in people, and that's on you, man.
• 41:58
  Like, I don't.
• 41:59
  I don't agree with that at all.
• 42:00
  I don't.
• 42:01
  I don't like that.
• 42:02
  I don't like using music to manipulate people to do certain things.
• 42:07
  I mean, I.
• 42:08
  I don't like shaming people into lifting their hands.
• 42:11
  I don't like any of that stuff.
• 42:12
  Like that.
• 42:13
  That stuff in worship services drives me crazy.
• 42:15
  Oh, for sure.
• 42:16
  We can go off on a whole tangent about that stuff.
• 42:18
  I gotta say, when it comes to people who think like that, I mean, obviously their heart, they're really trying to be hard hearted, which is actually interesting to see them put that much effort into it.
• 42:29
  But.
• 42:30
  But here.
• 42:30
  Here's what it'd be like.
• 42:32
  You know, honestly, if you are.
• 42:33
  Like, when you hear those things, if you want to fight against them, if you.
• 42:36
  If you are one that wants to be a skeptic first and an experiencer second, then I think you need to move those things in opposite order.
• 42:45
  And what I want to say to you is, come and see.
• 42:48
  Come and see.
• 42:49
  Come try it out.
• 42:50
  What are you scared of?
• 42:51
  No, no.
• 42:52
  Yeah, yeah.
• 42:52
  Because if it's.
• 42:53
  Because if it is bogus.
• 42:54
  Yep, you'll find out and you're strong enough to resist.
• 42:57
  But when I say that, I don't just mean come to church.
• 42:59
  I mean, come on, come try this.
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  On for a while.
• 43:01
  Come.
• 43:02
  No, and do it for real.
• 43:04
  Come really try this on.
• 43:06
  Come really put your faith in Jesus.
• 43:08
  Come, come.
• 43:09
  Really see if this is real.
• 43:10
  As the Bible says, taste and see that it is good.
• 43:13
  I want you to come and see.
• 43:15
  That was the invitation that Philip gave to Nathaniel.
• 43:18
  That was the invitation that even Jesus said, come and see.
• 43:22
  Come and see.
• 43:23
  Try it on.
• 43:24
  There was recently a video of this kid who was an atheist, and he said he was just going to try it.
• 43:27
  He was going to act like a Christian for 30 days.
• 43:30
  Sure.
• 43:30
  He didn't even make it days.
• 43:32
  Yeah, he didn't even make it 40, 30 days.
• 43:34
  So he said, dude, this is real.
• 43:35
  And when I say he did it, though, like, this kid actually dedicated himself.
• 43:39
  He looked up what it would be to live as a good Christian for 30 days.
• 43:43
  He did all the things.
• 43:44
  He read the Bible, he, he.
• 43:46
  All the stuff he was supposed to do, and he didn't even make it 30 days where he said, this is it.
• 43:50
  And I was like, that's amazing that we need more of that.
• 43:54
  I need more people that are willing to, you know, recognize that you're fighting against this and you don't even know why.
• 44:00
  Come and see.
• 44:02
  Yeah, actually the.
• 44:03
  Our pastor at our church up in Minnesota always had this phrase.
• 44:06
  He goes, I want you guys to try Christianity for 60 days.
• 44:09
  If it doesn't work, you can have all your sins back.
• 44:13
  Oh, my God.
• 44:15
  Oh, my goodness.
• 44:16
  My.
• 44:17
  One of my favorite stories was there was a pastor who pastors a series of churches up in Green Bay and he said he had this guy on Facebook who wrote him this message that says, like, I can't believe
• 44:26
  you're spreading this garbage.
• 44:27
  I'm an atheist.
• 44:28
  I don't believe in any of this stuff.
• 44:29
  And you're.
• 44:30
  You're hurting people.
• 44:32
  And so he said, I had a little back and forth, but for the most part, just left it alone.
• 44:36
  He said, two days later, I get a phone.
• 44:38
  No, I get a.
• 44:39
  An in person visit from this guy who says, I'm the guy who is fighting with you on Facebook.
• 44:43
  He was able to track him down.
• 44:45
  And he said, here's what.
• 44:46
  Here's what happened.
• 44:47
  He goes, I was so angry at this interaction that you and I had.
• 44:51
  He goes, I started shouting at God.
• 44:53
  I was like, this is stupid and you're dumb.
• 44:55
  And why would you.
• 44:55
  Then all this kind of.
• 44:56
  All of a sudden, it hit me.
• 44:57
  I was like, why am I arguing with something I don't even believe exists?
• 45:00
  And he goes.
• 45:01
  And all of a sudden I was like, wait a minute.
• 45:03
  It's like, why is this my natural compulsion?
• 45:05
  And it led him to give his life to God from being angry at a pastor.
• 45:09
  That's fantastic.
• 45:11
  The realization.
• 45:12
  Well, you know, I have this theory, and I think it's true, but I.
• 45:16
  I have this theory that deep down in every person is the truth.
• 45:21
  I think every person knows somewhere inside them the truth.
• 45:24
  And there's just different levels of wanting to avoid it.
• 45:27
  Mm.
• 45:28
  You know, and it's.
• 45:29
  It's wild because some people, when they finally come and they're like, oh, wow, it's really like this.
• 45:34
  Yeah, it's really like this.
• 45:36
  You really need to try it on and actually see for yourself that this is.
• 45:39
  And here's another question for the person that would say, why are you spreading this garbage?
• 45:43
  I don't believe in it.
• 45:44
  Here.
• 45:44
  Here's the serious question.
• 45:46
  What wrong am I doing?
• 45:48
  What bad am I doing?
• 45:49
  How am I hurting anyone?
• 45:51
  You're influencing someone's decision.
• 45:52
  No, no, no, no.
• 45:53
  Because he.
• 45:54
  He, I.
• 45:54
  And I believe strongly in this.
• 45:56
  This is so true.
• 45:57
  And I've heard it worded similar to this before, and I'm going to use it.
• 46:01
  Let's see who's wrong.
• 46:02
  Because if I'm wrong, what have I done?
• 46:05
  I've led a life that was encouraging to people, that helped give people hope, that helped people get through things, that gave people counsel, that gave people some, maybe, I don't know, happiness at different moments.
• 46:15
  And I, you know, what have I done wrong?
• 46:17
  Nothing.
• 46:18
  If I'm wrong, I've had a Pretty darn good life.
• 46:20
  But guess what?
• 46:21
  If I'm right and you're wrong, you have made a huge mistake that you can't come back from, whereas I'm perfectly fine.
• 46:29
  So you need to really think about the consequences of what's really going on here.
• 46:33
  I'm not doing anything wrong, but you just might be right.
• 46:37
  That was super intense.
• 46:38
  I, I, I was waiting for this.
• 46:40
  I don't, like, I don't disagree.
• 46:42
  I'm sorry.
• 46:42
  I was calm the whole time.
• 46:44
  Listen, listen, you touched a nerve.
• 46:46
  That's, that's something I don't necessarily disagree with.
• 46:48
  I don't generally like that way of going about it, but you might not.
• 46:53
  Like it, but it's true.
• 46:54
  The depth of it is this.
• 46:55
  Like, the truth is important regardless.
• 46:58
  Right?
• 46:59
  Regardless of what the truth is, the actual truth is important.
• 47:02
  And that's why I don't have a problem challenging somebody that, like, like, okay, if I'm wrong, I want to know, you know, if I'm wrong about this God stuff, I want to know.
• 47:14
  So come show me.
• 47:16
  Yep.
• 47:16
  Because I know the truth, right?
• 47:20
  And the truth has set me free.
• 47:22
  And there's another one, right?
• 47:25
  Truth has set me free.
• 47:26
  You know, people say it all the time, don't know what it means, but, but seriously, like, I don't, I don't foresee anyone being able to prove me wrong.
• 47:36
  And not because I, I just believe to believe, but, like, because everyone who tries to prove it wrong ends up dying in the midst of it or, you know, becoming a believer.
• 47:49
  You know what I mean?
• 47:50
  Like, it's one of those things that every time you try to prove it wrong, it's like, okay, I was literally.
• 47:54
  Waiting for you to be like, you.
• 47:56
  Got to put like, November 21st, Madison Square Garden, you and me.
• 48:01
  No, I don't mean like, I don't necessarily mean like, let's debate it.
• 48:04
  No, I mean, shoot, I will just.
• 48:06
  Like, show me, show me.
• 48:07
  No, but here's the thing.
• 48:08
  I mean, even those people are like, people are wasting their life.
• 48:11
  How, how are they wasting their life?
• 48:13
  Well, you know, bettering themselves.
• 48:15
  I'll tell you how the, why people go that route, though.
• 48:18
  It's, it's, it's simply because people have misrepresented Christ.
• 48:21
  Sure.
• 48:22
  Okay.
• 48:22
  And that's why, but that's, that's because.
• 48:24
  They don't understand, though.
• 48:25
  But the whole thing is that they don't properly understand what a Christian life is actually supposed to look like.
• 48:29
  And because here's the thing.
• 48:30
  If you actually are, that's what I'M saying, even if what we believed was false, which is not, but if it was.
• 48:35
  And so you live a Christian life.
• 48:37
  So you decide to live a life full of morals and.
• 48:39
  And helping other people and caring about other people, maybe visiting people and.
• 48:43
  And being there and all those kinds of things.
• 48:45
  You've lived a pretty darn good life.
• 48:47
  What is wrong about that?
• 48:48
  That's a wonderful way to speak against such things.
• 48:51
  There are no laws.
• 48:52
  Exactly.
• 48:53
  And so what is it then that you are trying to hold on to?
• 48:55
  What are you being influenced by?
• 48:57
  What are you being told that you need that you don't get from following Christ?
• 49:01
  What is it?
• 49:02
  Well, they don't understand the.
• 49:04
  The.
• 49:04
  What's the whole point?
• 49:05
  They don't understand.
• 49:06
  They don't come and see what's really like.
• 49:09
  What they don't understand is a lot of.
• 49:11
  Now you're getting me riled up.
• 49:12
  Hang on, hang on.
• 49:13
  Calm down again, Cal.
• 49:15
  And the thing that they generally don't understand is.
• 49:18
  Is the same thing a lot of people makes up about everything.
• 49:21
  Right.
• 49:21
  You can't judge Beethoven by somebody's bad performance of it.
• 49:27
  Sure.
• 49:28
  Right.
• 49:29
  You judge Beethoven by the original.
• 49:32
  Right.
• 49:32
  The original piece.
• 49:33
  And so you.
• 49:35
  You.
• 49:36
  You can't be like, beethoven was a terrible artist because, you know, because this guy played a very bad rendition of it.
• 49:43
  You know, you can't do that.
• 49:44
  And that's something I stole from somebody, too.
• 49:45
  Just so you know.
• 49:46
  I'm not original on that.
• 49:47
  But.
• 49:48
  But seriously, like, okay, yep, yes, I let you down.
• 49:54
  I failed at being a good Christian.
• 49:57
  But you know who didn't?
• 49:58
  Jesus and the Bible.
• 49:59
  That's right.
• 50:00
  Like, look at that.
• 50:01
  And then come call me out.
• 50:02
  That's part of this thing.
• 50:03
  Right?
• 50:04
  Like, tell me where I'm.
• 50:05
  I'm missing.
• 50:06
  Yep.
• 50:07
  So that I can fix.
• 50:08
  I think a lot of it is literally just their subconscious reason they're upset is because you're.
• 50:15
  You're forcing yourself on me.
• 50:18
  Right.
• 50:18
  That's.
• 50:19
  The other argument is just kind of like, why do you feel like you have to push this agenda?
• 50:23
  And it's like my.
• 50:24
  The argument is like, if I see you physically walking towards a cliff that you are going to fall off of and die.
• 50:30
  How irresponsible would it be of me to not say, watch out, you're about to fall off a cliff?
• 50:35
  Well, my agenda is I love you.
• 50:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 50:38
  Like, so.
• 50:39
  I mean, that's the agenda.
• 50:40
  What they.
• 50:40
  And going off of what you said.
• 50:42
  Here's the part that gets you me.
• 50:44
  Okay.
• 50:44
  Here's the part that gets Me is that they, they, they base how they can follow Christ off of his church instead of who Christ is.
• 50:52
  You've taken your eyes off of what we've all need to keep our eyes on you.
• 50:55
  You're looking at the wrong thing.
• 50:57
  It's not about the people who are trying to follow him, which are all flawed and need him in the first place.
• 51:01
  Failed a lot, all right?
• 51:03
  However, no, that's not how you base him on.
• 51:07
  Don't judge him by his followers, judge him by Him.
• 51:10
  And he is flawless.
• 51:13
  You need to come and find out who he is for yourself and call.
• 51:17
  Us out when we misstep like that.
• 51:19
  I think that's important if you're a Christian or not.
• 51:21
  And you can be like, look, you're not living this.
• 51:25
  In my opinion, that's the Holy Spirit going, hey, you need to tell him that he's not living this.
• 51:29
  Yeah.
• 51:30
  And if you, if.
• 51:30
  Let me tell you something.
• 51:31
  Oh my gosh, I'm getting, Let me.
• 51:32
  Tell you something, brother.
• 51:34
  Seriously.
• 51:35
  Getting round up.
• 51:35
  I am, I am.
• 51:36
  Because here's the thing.
• 51:37
  If you're one of those people that if, if, if the people who are trying to follow Christ are the ones that are going to keep you from him, then your eyes were never on him to be.
• 51:44
  They were only on the people.
• 51:45
  And in the same way, if you are so hurt and broken that you have to walk away from your faith because a pastor or a leader of a church goes down and that happens.
• 51:53
  Unfortunately, it happens.
• 51:55
  But if that's what happens, then your faith wasn't in God.
• 51:58
  Your faith was in those leaders.
• 51:59
  And once again, in the wrong place.
• 52:01
  It is about Him.
• 52:02
  Don't put your eyes on anything but Him.
• 52:05
  Put him and his kingdom first.
• 52:07
  Yeah, I'm a big words have meaning kind of guy.
• 52:10
  And, and the definition of a hypocrite is not somebody who screws up.
• 52:15
  It's.
• 52:15
  It's somebody who says one thing and intentionally does another.
• 52:20
  Like, and lives that life.
• 52:21
  Right.
• 52:22
  Like somebody who says, oh, you shouldn't drink and then is a drunkard by their lifestyle.
• 52:27
  Right.
• 52:28
  Like that is a hypocrite.
• 52:29
  A hypocrite is not somebody who says, you know, don't get drunk and then they had a little too much one night and it's not their lifestyle, it's not what they normally do.
• 52:39
  That's not a hypocrite.
• 52:40
  Hypocrite is a lifestyle.
• 52:42
  It's a thing that you are actively saying this and then doing something else with no regard for, for any of it.
• 52:50
  Yep.
• 52:51
  So I Just want to clear that up if we're talking to the people.
• 52:53
  Okay.
• 52:54
  You know, you know what I mean?
• 52:55
  That's, that's one thing.
• 52:56
  That's my, that's my thing.
• 52:58
  What's the next one?
• 52:58
  Nope, Stop it.
• 53:00
  All right, I'm good, I'm good.
• 53:01
  What's the next one?
• 53:02
  I want to touch on what you said, that the whole truth will set you free thing.
• 53:05
  So here's, here's a, here's a psychological question that will go with it.
• 53:08
  It is, let's say, like, like a subject of you're adopted.
• 53:13
  Or let's say, for example, that, let's see, hey, your mom and I didn't wait till marriage and we fooled around.
• 53:22
  We don't want you to make the same mistake.
• 53:23
  You got a 12 year old kid who asked you flat out, did you guys wait until you got married?
• 53:28
  It's like, no, the truth will set you free in those situations.
• 53:31
  Some would interpret that and say, okay, well, you should just be honest with them.
• 53:34
  Is a 12 year old capable of healing that?
• 53:36
  Where's the line between, I want to be honest, but I'm not going to tell you the truth?
• 53:40
  To your question, how would you guys handle it?
• 53:42
  What is the truth?
• 53:44
  Jesus.
• 53:45
  Right?
• 53:46
  I mean, seriously though, right?
• 53:47
  Like, I mean, the truth is.
• 53:49
  No, we did not wait.
• 53:50
  Okay, okay, but there's something.
• 53:53
  No, I'm saying the truth will set you free.
• 53:54
  Jesus.
• 53:57
  Yeah, well, you know, here's the thing with those situations where, yeah, you're trying to tell your kids this is how you should be living your life, and they look at you.
• 54:04
  Is that how you did yours?
• 54:05
  And you have to admit, no, it's not.
• 54:06
  And then they'll look at you.
• 54:07
  It doesn't make you a hypocrite.
• 54:08
  No, it makes me someone who learned from a mistake.
• 54:10
  And I'm trying to stop you from making the same mistake that I've recognized was a mistake.
• 54:14
  I got you.
• 54:15
  So that's not hypocritical.
• 54:17
  That is someone who's actually willing to recognize that they're in the wrong.
• 54:21
  Pumped.
• 54:21
  I'm still pumped.
• 54:23
  Well, and also, also, also any lie is not of God.
• 54:29
  Sure.
• 54:30
  So if you're not going to tell them the truth, then the best thing you could tell him is I'll tell you when you're older.
• 54:35
  Chip?
• 54:35
  Sure.
• 54:36
  Okay.
• 54:37
  How about, how about I'm like a super.
• 54:38
  If you caught that, I did comment.
• 54:40
  A crazy super fit.
• 54:42
  Yeah, right.
• 54:43
  On a crazy superficial level.
• 54:44
  I'm trying to keep this secret from my wife.
• 54:46
  I'm throwing Her a surprise party.
• 54:48
  And she asked me flat out, are you throwing a surprise party?
• 54:50
  And I say, no.
• 54:51
  Is that.
• 54:52
  Am I lying?
• 54:52
  Am I breaking a covenant?
• 54:54
  Am I.
• 54:55
  You know.
• 54:57
  I know.
• 54:58
  Why do you say that?
• 54:59
  Why?
• 55:00
  See, there's a way to answer without lying.
• 55:01
  First off, if somebody says, are you throwing a surprise for me?
• 55:04
  If I was, I wouldn't tell you.
• 55:06
  Right.
• 55:07
  Well, you're doing it, aren't you?
• 55:09
  I wouldn't tell you if I was.
• 55:11
  Right.
• 55:11
  That is my favorite thing.
• 55:12
  That's ridiculous.
• 55:13
  My students are like, you know, don't you?
• 55:15
  I'm like, what?
• 55:17
  And they're like, oh, you know.
• 55:18
  And it's like, well, if I did, I would not.
• 55:21
  And they just like, they're like, oh, so it is.
• 55:23
  You did.
• 55:24
  It is the.
• 55:25
  And it's like, I wouldn't tell you.
• 55:27
  Like, I.
• 55:28
  That is the.
• 55:28
  That is a perfect answer.
• 55:30
  No, I mean, that is the perfect answer.
• 55:31
  What you get me for my birthday.
• 55:32
  I got your gift.
• 55:33
  What is it?
• 55:34
  A gift.
• 55:35
  I'm not going to tell you.
• 55:38
  Why don't you.
• 55:39
  That would ruin the surprise.
• 55:41
  I don't know.
• 55:41
  You said licking, you know, like, don't lick a horse.
• 55:44
  There's a way to answer that is completely true and maintains the secrecy of the situation.
• 55:49
  Yeah, for sure.
• 55:51
  You know, I think that.
• 55:54
  I think that too often we don't slow down before we speak.
• 55:59
  Right.
• 56:00
  If we're quick to listen, slow to speak, we won't come up with a lie.
• 56:05
  We'll think of things like, well, why would I tell you that?
• 56:08
  You know, like, if I.
• 56:09
  If I was, why would I tell you?
• 56:11
  It would be a surprise, you know?
• 56:14
  But like, ah, we're so quick to just shoot something back and defend.
• 56:19
  Or you can even say something like, oh, this is my.
• 56:22
  I don't know if I know that or not, but I.
• 56:24
  Or whether I knew that or not, I wouldn't tell you.
• 56:27
  And I would not confirm whether I knew something or not because I wouldn't tell you.
• 56:31
  And so therefore, then have them sitting there figuring out, I don't know if.
• 56:35
  Clearly you can't choose the cup in front of you.
• 56:38
  Right?
• 56:39
  Was that line from.
• 56:40
  Was it like Shrek?
• 56:42
  I was like a check when.
• 56:43
  What's his name?
• 56:44
  When Pinocchio.
• 56:46
  They like interrogating this.
• 56:47
  Oh, my gosh.
• 56:48
  I may or may not know where he may or may not possibly be.
• 56:51
  It's like he's just dancing Canon.
• 56:53
  Can I know where he's not?
• 56:56
  All right, let's.
• 56:58
  Let's wrap up.
• 56:59
  We.
• 56:59
  We've been these Guys are tired of us talking at this point.
• 57:03
  What's your closing thoughts?
• 57:05
  If anybody knows how to AI render him into Hulk Hogan, that would be creative.
• 57:09
  Yeah, brother.
• 57:13
  Closing thoughts.
• 57:14
  I like what you said right there at the end.
• 57:17
  If you just take a beat.
• 57:18
  Stop trying to be so quick to respond to everything and saying, I'm not sure and I'll get back to you is a completely acceptable response.
• 57:27
  And most people are respected for it.
• 57:29
  Yeah, my closing thoughts.
• 57:32
  Taste and see.
• 57:33
  Come and see.
• 57:34
  That's right.
• 57:36
  That was what I was gonna say.
• 57:37
  Come and see.
• 57:38
  Okay, if you need me to go through it again, just rewind.
• 57:41
  I don't want to get all riled up again.
• 57:43
  Woo.
• 57:43
  How about you, Derek?
• 57:46
  Yeah, this is great.
• 57:48
  I think this is a great conversation for us to have had and maybe we can do some other ones like it.
• 57:55
  Because it's so often that we get caught up in churchy language and sound all cultish that we don't take a moment, slow down, right?
• 58:06
  To just be like, hey, this is what this means, even to new believers.
• 58:12
  You know, people who are like, yeah, I choose this Jesus thing.
• 58:15
  Whoa, what was that?
• 58:16
  You know, like, so I think it's good.
• 58:19
  I think this is a good thing.
• 58:20
  I also think that.
• 58:22
  That Jesus loves you guys.
• 58:24
  And if nobody told you that today, we're telling her to tell you Jesus loves you.
• 58:29
  I'll back him up on that.
• 58:30
  And, and also, like, you know, hang in there.
• 58:35
  Yeah, you can do this.
• 58:37
  I believe in you.
• 58:38
  Believe in yourself.
• 58:39
  100.
• 58:40
  Yeah.
• 58:41
  So, so subscribe like Patreon.
• 58:48
  What's going on with this, by the way?
• 58:49
  We told you a bunch of comments.
• 58:50
  Oh, this?
• 58:51
  Yes.
• 58:52
  I think we've got our final one in.
• 58:54
  But we're.
• 58:54
  We're gonna wait, just wait just to make sure.
• 58:57
  But we got a new one.
• 58:59
  And, you know, if you're sending these in, we love it.
• 59:04
  It's hard to pick a winner.
• 59:07
  We don't know who you are.
• 59:09
  So when we pick the one, and if we pick one that doesn't have a name on it and we show you, you're gonna have to be responsible for contacting us and telling us what you wrote on it.
• 59:17
  And we'll give you two weeks to do so.
• 59:19
  Because if not, we have to draw another one.
• 59:23
  I mean, somebody's got to win the stuff.
• 59:24
  So what day we drawing it again?
• 59:26
  We're doing it on the next.
• 59:27
  A week, Two weeks.
• 59:29
  Give it a week.
• 59:29
  One.
• 59:30
  We have a week.
• 59:31
  One week.
• 59:32
  So we're drawing it next episode.
• 59:33
  We are drawing it next episode.
• 59:35
  All right.
• 59:36
  You better move it.
• 59:37
  I mean, this was within time.
• 59:38
  This was September 30th.
• 59:40
  We are.
• 59:40
  We are at six, it looks like.
• 59:43
  Okay.
• 59:43
  Up to six.
• 59:44
  So.
• 59:46
  Yeah, lucky number seven is out there some.
• 59:48
  Abel, don't forget, come see me if you want to have.
• 59:51
  Yeah.
• 59:51
  And listen, I might have gotten.
• 59:53
  Send us a postcard and you get a bunch of stuff.
• 59:55
  Yeah, I might have gotten a little excited back there.
• 59:57
  Okay.
• 59:58
  I know I might have gotten a little, you know, crazy.
• 1:00:00
  And I apologize, you know, because, like, I like to keep it kind of mellow sometimes.
• 1:00:04
  And apparently there's certain things that, you know, you get me wrapped up.
• 1:00:09
  That's right.
• 1:00:10
  You know, and so you get riled up for Jesus.
• 1:00:12
  It's okay.
• 1:00:12
  I start acting kind of.
• 1:00:13
  Next time on the Truth Response, we will talk about politics.
• 1:00:16
  All right.
• 1:00:16
  Just kidding.
• 1:00:19
  Was Jesus a Republican or a Democrat?
• 1:00:21
  Definitely not having.
• 1:00:23
  He was a socialist.
• 1:00:27
  Communism only works with God.
• 1:00:29
  But that's monotheism anyways.
• 1:00:32
  Theocracy.
• 1:00:33
  That's a theocracy, right?
• 1:00:34
  Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Yeah, theocracy.
• 1:00:37
  So whatever.
• 1:00:39
  Thanks for joining us on this trip down this roller coaster we call the Truth Response.
• 1:00:45
  And we love you guys, and as always, God bless.
• 1:00:49
  Peace out.
• 1:01:32
  Truth.
• 1:01:32
  In the battle light, in the loss, what we see, clarity and chaos.