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Mark DeRosa on Dirt From The Dugout · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Ravy Justin Musel, Welcome, my friend, Welcome everybody. Dirt from
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  Speaker 1: the Dugout is live for the first time, and we
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  Speaker 1: hope the first of many times. I can you ever
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  Speaker 1: thought you'd see the day? Or you want to pull
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  Speaker 1: the curtain back and explain to people how the last
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  Speaker 1: few days have gone to get us to this point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a whirlwind. Man. How about us becoming
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  Speaker 2: fast friends a couple of months ago? Man? Uh, really surreal?
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  Speaker 3: RAVI.
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  Speaker 2: You know you and I are friends now, so you're
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  Speaker 2: probably gonna blush with this, but you know this. I
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  Speaker 2: was a huge Baseball Tonight guy growing up, right, so
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  Speaker 2: uh kind of lived and died by by Baseball Tonight
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  Speaker 2: and night. So what an honor man to sit with
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  Speaker 2: you on this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a it's it's a I appreciate that every
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  Speaker 1: time that I hear that and this. We Uh, were
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  Speaker 1: you gonna talk to Mark Duosta in a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: I talked about him through much of his career. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to be our first guest. But before we get
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  Speaker 1: to Mark, but let's kind of share with people what
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  Speaker 1: Dirt from the Dugout, what the what the parent Dugout
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  Speaker 1: is all about? How we got to where we got,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll share the initial story. So I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I think it was hotel
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  Speaker 1: room or an airplane, and I got this bizarre kind
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  Speaker 1: of tech some number that I'd never seen before, which
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  Speaker 1: does happen?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: And I looked at it and it was somebody who
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  Speaker 1: was explaining something about some podcast that they do, and
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  Speaker 1: they needed a voice to maybe if I would be
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  Speaker 1: kind enough to just voice the beginning, and they out
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  Speaker 1: the end of it the outthrop and I'm like, and
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  Speaker 1: he kept saying, and I'll be happy to pay you
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  Speaker 1: for it. I'm like, hey, I'm not taking any money
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  Speaker 1: to give you thirty second my voice. So I reached
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  Speaker 1: out justin because that's who was on the other end
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  Speaker 1: of this phone, and said, what is it you're doing?
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  Speaker 1: And we talked a lot about what it is that
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  Speaker 1: his vision was, what he was working on with regards
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  Speaker 1: to the first podcast, which is Recruiting Concredential, which is
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  Speaker 1: part of the parent dugout, And I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's more to this than than just by voice.
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  Speaker 1: There are themes here that you're talking about that I
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  Speaker 1: really love. You know, I've been involved with the game
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  Speaker 1: at every level from g little league to college to
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  Speaker 1: major League baseball, and it's it's time, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: my life, say how can we help kids, How can
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  Speaker 1: we help parents of kids navigate this non linear world
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  Speaker 1: of baseball, which every day it's more and more complex.
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  Speaker 1: It can be confusing, it can be overwhelming, but there
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  Speaker 1: are ways to kind of navigate through this. And Justin
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  Speaker 1: and I talked for a long time and found that
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  Speaker 1: we have we have very similar thoughts on approaches and
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  Speaker 1: that's what god essleeked at this point. But but from
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  Speaker 1: eight to where we are tonight was a it's a
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  Speaker 1: massive week. Like we we we took a lot of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of long run scrimmage to get to where
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  Speaker 1: we are and I'm really excited about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean, what a what a journey. And
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  Speaker 2: I think I think what really struck with me after
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  Speaker 2: our first conversation Rev, is just how passionate we are along,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in regards to educating people, in helping people
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  Speaker 2: and giving back to baseball. That was a big theme
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  Speaker 2: of yours, right, is just just trying to give back.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just it's super cool, man, to be able
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  Speaker 2: to have a platform like this so we can talk
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  Speaker 2: to people and and the whole idea of you know,
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  Speaker 2: bringing guests on and letting letting our members ask the questions.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that's super unique to give them access
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  Speaker 2: to these individuals. And who better to learn it from
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  Speaker 2: than the people who have done it really well and
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  Speaker 2: I have experienced a lot. So super cool man. I'm
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  Speaker 2: excited about tonight talking to d Row, but just happy
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  Speaker 2: to be with you on this, buddy. You and I
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  Speaker 2: are are you know, good friends at this point, but
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  Speaker 2: just fun to sit here on this with you.
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  Speaker 1: So the way this all works, and this is ultimately
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  Speaker 1: about you, the you know, the baseball parent and the
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  Speaker 1: baseball player you can see on the screen. There's a
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  Speaker 1: question and answer chat room that's for you to ask
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  Speaker 1: the questions of the eventual guests. In this case, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be Mark de Rosa, But in the coming
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  Speaker 1: weeks we'll have people like theo epstein On, who's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer who's broken two curses.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have David ross On, who of course
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  Speaker 1: has been a manager and is wildly successful as a
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  Speaker 1: as a catcher and a parent himself. We'll have Dusty
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  Speaker 1: Baker and Buck show Walter and Jim Schlosnegel. It's very important, though,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing this for you. If we can bring you
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  Speaker 1: the experts who have had all these different experiences, and
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  Speaker 1: you have questions about your own, let them answer, you know,
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  Speaker 1: let them tell you what they've told their child, let
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  Speaker 1: them tell you what they've learned in clubhouses, what they've
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  Speaker 1: learned from other players, what they've learned from managers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you look at the list of managers that Mark de
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  Speaker 1: Rosa has played under several Hall of Famers soon to
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  Speaker 1: be Hall of Famers, like you can't get a better
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  Speaker 1: pellet of paint than what he's been able to have
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  Speaker 1: experience with. So use that chat box. That's the most
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  Speaker 1: important part of this. That's what makes dirt from the dugout,
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  Speaker 1: That's what makes the parent dugout. That's what makes all
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  Speaker 1: of the aspects of it work. And that's that's back
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  Speaker 1: on you guys. Justin and I can ask questions a
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  Speaker 1: d row for five hours, I know, and so do four,
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  Speaker 1: but we could do it for five. But really what
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  Speaker 1: we hope is questions will come from from our guests,
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  Speaker 1: and that's that's really most important. Our subscribers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to clarify it, so for for everybody
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  Speaker 2: watching tonight, use the Q and A. Use the Q
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  Speaker 2: and A in uh where you're at, So in the
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  Speaker 2: zoom put any questions that you have in there. If
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  Speaker 2: stuff comes up as we're talking to d Row, throw
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  Speaker 2: it in there and we'll take a look at those
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  Speaker 2: as we go along and try to get as many
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  Speaker 2: to d Row as poss was the night goes along.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, So I think we justin and
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  Speaker 1: I we'll explain our relationship. We'll explain our love for baseball.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my love for baseball came justin I got
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  Speaker 1: to ESPN in May of nineteen ninety three. It was
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  Speaker 1: not until nineteen ninety five that I started on Baseball Tonight.
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  Speaker 1: So two years of doing Sports Center and overnight Sports
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  Speaker 1: Centers with people like Mike Turrico and Linda Cone and
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  Speaker 1: Steve Levy and Craig Kilbourne and Rich Eisen and Stuart
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  Speaker 1: Scott and for the most part everybody that was there
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  Speaker 1: in the early nineties all the way through two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: but Baseball Tonight took over by eight months, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I fell in love with the show to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. I grew up in New England. I
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  Speaker 1: grew up a Larry Bird fan. I grew up a
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Orr fan. I grew up with the Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: of seventy five and eighty six, and for most of
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  Speaker 1: my life we were disappointed, you know, the Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: were eight disappointment. Were going to I have theo Epstein
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  Speaker 1: in a few weeks and we'll talk about breaking your curse.
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  Speaker 1: But it was basketball and hockey, and I was a
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  Speaker 1: run around guy, and I know DRO's going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to relate to that, and I know you will too.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't spend a lot of time watching television or
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  Speaker 1: saying I want to be the next X. I was
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  Speaker 1: outside playing. We didn't have phones, you know, obviously like
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  Speaker 1: we do now, so it was more about that. And
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  Speaker 1: then it was the show that I fell in love
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  Speaker 1: with with literally live updates with the home run Race
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  Speaker 1: with Bonds and Sosa and McGuire and the Yankees of
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  Speaker 1: the early two thousands and the Giants running through ten,
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  Speaker 1: twelve and fourteen and what they did, and then the
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  Speaker 1: curse is being broken in Boston and Chicago. So I
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  Speaker 1: fell in love with the show. I got to know
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  Speaker 1: I no longer root for teams. All my family and
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  Speaker 1: friends have seen the Red Sox win. Where I grew up,
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  Speaker 1: I root for people. You know, I worked with so many.
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  Speaker 1: Any of the managers or guys that were former managers,
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  Speaker 1: I want them to enjoy success. I want them to
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  Speaker 1: win World Series. As a kid that grew up a
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox fan, I want to see the Yankees win
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  Speaker 1: the World Series because Aaron Boone is the manager. I
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  Speaker 1: worked with Booneye for a long time. I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: I didn't play golf until after, but I fell in
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  Speaker 2: they played on. But uh, that's that's what we did.
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  Speaker 2: We went to the baseball field. That's all I wanted
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  Speaker 2: was a little kid, was just play baseball as long
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  Speaker 2: as I could. So we did that. Uh. And and
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  Speaker 2: I was fortunate to obviously play in high school play
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  Speaker 2: beyond that. You know, I was always happy with my career.
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  Speaker 2: But then you start looking at d Row sixteen years
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  Speaker 2: in the big leagues, you don't feel that great anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, happy with what I was able to do.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I was able to play some really fun summer leagues,
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  Speaker 2: got to play with my brother, my best friend, my
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  Speaker 2: best friends from from school. And uh, I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: a what an incredible journey man to to then now
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  Speaker 2: go into living living a baseball life, right. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then just obviously with the background of working with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of players and parents through the recruiting process,
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  Speaker 2: and then having experience with the at the major league
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  Speaker 2: level with the Milwaukee Brewers and and just being involved
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  Speaker 2: in the draft and in that process. Like, it's been
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  Speaker 2: an awesome ride, man, but super cool. Baseball has given
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  Speaker 2: me so much. I love it. I could talk about
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  Speaker 2: it all day long. But we better get to d Row.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's here to see. Rabbi is d Ro man.
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  Speaker 1: From the deck. Go let's bring in Mark de ros up.
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  Speaker 1: Most people know him, and there he is. D Ro.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here. You're on the maiden voyage.
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  Speaker 1: What we hope is it doesn't doesn't end like the Titanic.
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  Speaker 1: That's our goal.
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  Speaker 3: Could you guys hear me? Were good?
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  Speaker 2: We're going bo.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, buddy? So yeah, it's funny Justin was
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  Speaker 1: talking about it in the way this is going to
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  Speaker 1: work tonight. We're going to get questions and answers from people,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll just go off on sort of different tangents.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to your coaches, your managers. You played for
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  Speaker 1: your child, your development. But it struck me and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you did this too, Like we used to ride
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  Speaker 1: our bikes to the playground to play baseball, and when
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  Speaker 1: you only had a certain number of people like right
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  Speaker 1: field isn't out. You can't hit it to right field?
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  Speaker 1: And you did you grow up that way?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I grew up coming home, dropping a book bag
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  Speaker 3: off at three o'clock, grabbing the bike, meeting the boys,
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  Speaker 3: and we're either going to play, you know, we had
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  Speaker 3: the strike zone carved out on our elementary school, or
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  Speaker 3: we created this awesome whiffle ball field, or we jumped
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  Speaker 3: the fence at our local little league field and all
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  Speaker 3: hit left hand, opposite what you normally do and played
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  Speaker 3: it that way. So yeah, I was always no be
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  Speaker 3: home for dinner kind of guy, and I played whatever
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  Speaker 3: sport actually was in season, football, baseball, basketball, it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: But I grew up in a house with a father
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  Speaker 3: that lived in breathed baseball and Yankee baseball. So I
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  Speaker 3: watched probably one hundred and sixty games every year with him,
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  Speaker 3: and we watched it a little different, Like he was telling,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think the next pitch is? What do
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  Speaker 3: you think they're gonna do here? You're gonna play in
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  Speaker 3: field in you're running on this pitch, you're doing contact play.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of came at at me with questions as
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  Speaker 3: I watched a game. So I learned it. I learned
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  Speaker 3: it that way, all right.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great way to learn it. Did you have
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  Speaker 1: to go left handed because you guys were so good
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  Speaker 1: at hitting righty? Or was just just an effort to
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  Speaker 1: learn another skill? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I never entertained the idea of switch hitting,
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  Speaker 3: just something a little different. We didn't want to lose
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  Speaker 3: the one or two balls that we had if someone
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  Speaker 3: lost one on Route seventeen and hit it and the
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  Speaker 3: game was over. So but yeah, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 3: blessed because the network is in Secaucus, New Jersey, and
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  Speaker 3: I grew up literally two towns over, so I would
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  Speaker 3: say once or twice a month I drive by the
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  Speaker 3: little league field I played on from time I was
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  Speaker 3: t ball till twelve years old and went to high school.
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  Speaker 2: So, diro, how much do you attribute your success? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: sixteen years in the big leagues, right, you have to
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  Speaker 2: have an amazing feel. I think I think feel in
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  Speaker 2: the game is lost a lot now with the way
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  Speaker 2: kids grow up in the game, kind of the system,
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  Speaker 2: the instincts. How much do you attribute your success to
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  Speaker 2: some of the back background playground sand lot baseball that
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  Speaker 2: you played?
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  Speaker 3: I think you know, playing multiple sports. I think, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we always helped me because once I committed to baseball,
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  Speaker 3: got drafted by the Braves, and was able to turn
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  Speaker 3: the classroom or football practice or basketball practice into doing
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  Speaker 3: nothing but baseball. I kind of knew it would happen
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  Speaker 3: a little quicker, But I think overall for me just
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  Speaker 3: sticking my nose in wanting to compete, I think what
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  Speaker 3: helped me a ton is I had an older brother, Kevin,
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  Speaker 3: five and a half years older than me. I followed
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  Speaker 3: him around. I was water boy for football. I was
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  Speaker 3: you know, I was in the dugout during his little
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  Speaker 3: league games and he always included me, so I was
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  Speaker 3: always playing. We talk about kids classing up, now, I
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  Speaker 3: was classing like five years up half the time, trying
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  Speaker 3: to compete with them. So I think that certainly helped.
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  Speaker 2: O Feelia now one dero I did as well. Man,
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  Speaker 2: Mine was only a few years up, but I I
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  Speaker 2: had no leeway at all. I had to earn every strip, man,
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  Speaker 2: and and uh, you get a little bit more competitive
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  Speaker 2: when you have to battle for yourself a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more right, No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid that got the phone call. I
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  Speaker 1: remember sitting in the family room, so you did tryouts
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  Speaker 1: and you're either gonna make the majors or you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be Triple A. And I remember the phone call, you know,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations this is and I remember the dude's name, Tim
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  Speaker 1: O'Halloran was the coach. He said, we're really excited to
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  Speaker 1: have you are on the Triple A Jets and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, and you know he's excited. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna sit there and be like, I don't play. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go deal with that. And look, in
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  Speaker 1: the end it turned out to be because I remembered
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  Speaker 1: his name. He was a very impactful person as a
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  Speaker 1: coach was to me so and it turns out many
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  Speaker 1: of my friends ended up in Triple A that year.
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  Speaker 1: We would have had to play up to get to
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  Speaker 1: the majors. In hindsight, it's okay, But maybe one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that we should about the parents out there
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  Speaker 1: is kind of dealing with with setbacks and it's a
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  Speaker 1: game as we all frustration and defeat and and how
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  Speaker 1: you how you process it, at what age do you
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  Speaker 1: do it? Who's the person to help you do that?
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  Speaker 1: Once you share some of the stories that you had
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  Speaker 1: to deal with and I know you, you know you didn't
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  Speaker 1: get a lot of that.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but but I but I did, RAVI Uh.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I think you you have to be your best coach,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: right And what I mean by that is you got
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: to be able to be an honest assess, make an
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: honest assessment of where you stand on Eddie given team
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: that you're on at that at that point, I think
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I was always pretty honest with myself climbing the ranks.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: And I say this all the time. I wasn't the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: best hitter on my high school team. I can name him,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Paul Bumbaco guy, absolutely mashed. I wasn't the best hitter
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: on my college team, Mike Shannon. I was never the
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: best play like coming up through the miners. I'll never forget.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I tell the story all the time. I'm so proud
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: of Walt Weiss and start that the Atlanta Braves have
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: gotten off to He was kind of my mentor. I was.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I was making that ascent towards the big leagues, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: he was the shortstop with the Atlanta Braves. And I
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: came to camp as the tripa a shortstop and you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: if something happens, maybe maybe it's my turn somebody goes down.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: And then I took round balls with Raphael for call
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: on the backfield for the first day of spring training,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: and I called my father when I got in the car.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I said, we got problems, big ones, and he goes,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: what do you mean? I go this, Yeah, this kid's
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: better than me. He brings a dynamic and a skill
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: set that I can't bring. So we're gonna have to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: figure something out.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that story from a lot of major leaguers,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: having sat with a lot of them and a lot
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of former managers. Yeah, you do need that, you know who?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Also? Can I throw in there? Can I throw this
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: in there? I felt like this was was true when
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I signed and went to the minor leagues. I felt
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: like there were fifteen guys on the roster that didn't
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: truly believe they had a shot to make it to
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: the big leagues, that they were not filler players, because
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I've seen that happen where guys are non prospects and
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: get hot and become prospects, go on and have I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: love the story. That's why I do my show. I
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: love different journeys to to the to the big leaves.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: But I did feel like the mentally tougher, the guy
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: who believed in himself a little bit more, the guy
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: who had his eye on getting a little bit better
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: each day. Were the guys that made it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that is super interesting, dearro and I you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I've heard this from a lot of guys too, And
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's always interesting to think about the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: magnitude of where you're at. And some guys are able
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to always absorb the pressure and move forward, right, it
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: just doesn't phase them. What were some things that you
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: did mentally to handle the pressures that you could maybe
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: pass along to kids listening, parents listening, because there's more
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: pressure now than ever, Like the spotlight got on these gads,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: not more than ever.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we grew up in a different time, right. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: always went back to my football days, my football mentality.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I remember being an instructural league with the Braves. I'm like,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: none of these guys I'm taking ground balls with the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: two A days, they didn't do them. So like I'm
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: gonna stay out here and now I'll be the last
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: one stand. And that's what I was. You know, that's
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: what you're telling yourself in your brain. I always tell
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: my son because you know, I travel a lot with work.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I said, if you think that your high school baseball
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: practice is the only time that you're going to get better,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it's the stuff you're doing when no one's watching. It's
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: consuming the game. It's it's understanding how guys are trying
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to attack you. It's working on your craft. It's getting
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: a little bit better, it's getting in the gym, it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: speeding agility. I know a lot's being asked to these
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: kids at such a young age that kind of just
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: want to be there at least for my son and
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the team that we have a sixteen you travel team
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: that will get rolling here at the end of May
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: and kind of point their parents and these kids in
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: the proper direction.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Allright, let's stick with our Q and a's. We have
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a question from a subscriber up there. He says, how
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: can a coach help players accept roles? And also, yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: what role does a parent play in that? I think
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: this again, we're kind of gearing this towards parents. So
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: what role would you play if your son is told,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to be the short stuff, I
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: want to be the right field, I want to be
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: center field. And the coach says, you know what, for
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: today or for now, we need you third base. And
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: having covered college baseball so much this season, I promise
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you the top level teams are still moving players around positions,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: whether it's short to third, third to short. We need
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: you in right field. You are center field for the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: entire season. Now you're moving over to right because we
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: need a little more speed in center. So how does
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the parent help guide the player when a coach is
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: saying you've got to go different plays?
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I have these I have these
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: conversations with the parents of the kids that I have
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: on the team that I coach, and I'm honest. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: the reason you can be honest because I tell the
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: parents is it can change in a year. I say
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: this all time. We have a young man on my
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: team that hit last for us for two years in
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: a row, and Carl, I'll tell you this. I kept
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: telling his dad, he's got the most tools of anybody
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: on a team, but he doesn't believe in himself. Like
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: he'd walk in a big game, get to first base
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: and he was almost like hyperventilating like it was big
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: for him. But the tools are there, and tools are there,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and I said, you gotta believe in yourself. No one
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: else is gonna believe in yourself for you. We can
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: tell you how great you are, but if you don't believe,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: it's not gonna happen. Fast forward this year, I mean,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: he had a high school season that we can't deny anymore.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: So he'll be moving up in the order. But I've
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: had these conversations and I'm just honest. I try and
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: be as honest as possible. This is what you need
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: to do. If because for me, say for a third baseman,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: parents will say, well my son needs more playing time
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: at third base, Okay, that's fine. But as he climbs
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the ranks, if he doesn't get lateral quickness, if he
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: doesn't know how to go backhand, if he doesn't know
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: how to charge the baseball, all these different things, the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: failed shortstop is gonna move over to third. So every
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: year presents different challenges. So I just to I try,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: especially with my son's age, it's just I just try
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: and love on them, teach them the fundamentals of the game,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: try and get them to understand that their coach, that
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: whoever they're gonna play for, you know who they're gonna play.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: They're gonna play the guy they can trust, that's gonna
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: hit the cutoff man, it's not gonna get picked off,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: that knows when to tag, when not to tag, how
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: to do different things. Those are the guys that get
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: more run on the weekends.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Are getting Are kids getting enough fundamentals today?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I do my best with it. I'm for it because
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: a coach and you're seeing you're seeing it now right
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: like bigger, stronger, faster, so much so much talent has
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: been infused in the game, but you watch on a
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: nightly basis, there's a lot of like just straight up
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: mental mistakes or fundamental mistakes that that could lead to
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: wins and losses at the big league level. And you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: we we turn a blind eye to it a little
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: bit more now than we used to because these guys
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: can pop some balls out of the yard. But I
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: think ultimately, if you put most managers on a lie
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: detector test, they're going to go with the guy they
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: can trust.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Trail runner, trail runner, trail runner dumpthing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: God, don't get rid of your going here on this one.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I try and I try and attack it for like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: especially with with our group. If I'm a college coach.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: If a college coach is coming to watch you play today,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you don't need to get a hit for him to
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: like you. He's looking at body movements. He's looking at
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: how you interact with your teammates. He's looking if you
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: if you're hustling to first base on a pop up,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: he's looking. They're looking at different things. You're not looking
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: at raw because I'll tell you what, especially in this
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: travel ball world, whoever's running game changer, it's probably somebody's parent.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: So they're just gonna they're rigging these numbers.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Don't don't worry.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: About batting average and all that different stuff. Ground drills
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: with eyes, it's quality a b's and and playing with
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: heart and effort.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It's so true. So Diro, I used to have conversation
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: with that grandpa about the Yankees when when Tory was
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the manager, and I used to say, it's so easy
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to have his job, and you say, no, no, he
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: has the hardest job because there's so many stars, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: it kind of like you the question of your right
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: as manager of Team USA. Yeah, what is that like
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: in managing all of those talented superstars, in getting them
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: to accept their roles?
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, honesty. I attacked it the same way I did
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: with my do with my sixteen you travel team. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: mean I started last March in just conversation after conversation,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: this is what this is what we're expecting, this is
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: how you'll be used. Obviously things can change, but ultimately, yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: like just honest conversations about what the expectations were and
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: if you weren't willing to kind of buy into that,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: then then we we went another route. Usually. But I mean,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: as you know, there was some tough decisions to be made.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't easy and everybody. I mean I
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: was a genius in the Dominican game and I was
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: a complete buffoon in the Venezuela game. Go figure. But
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: what people don't see behind the scenes and as part
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: of the gig I get it was in that WBC.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: It's it's such a seven game blast at the beginning
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: of spring training, you're either hotter you're not right. So
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: to call an Alex Bregman before the Dominican game and
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: and tell him he's not gonna play because I'm gonna
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: run Gunner hender that those are tough conversations to have
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: with a guy who's had a career that can throw
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: mine in the garbage. So I just I I always
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: have tried to be just honest and and uh, because
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: that's that's how my old man was, and that's how
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Bobby Cox was to me. That's how loopen Ella was
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to me. And I never got in my car and
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: drove home from a game not knowing where I stood
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: on a team, not worrying about, Oh, if I go
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: three for three tomorrow, maybe I'll play the next day.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I kind of just you just knew.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one, and I'm glad you brought
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: up Bobby and Bobby Cox. Here are the managers that
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: hero played for Cox Shoe, Walter Panela, Eric Wedge, Tony
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: LaRussa Rose Boch. He's going to the Hall of Fame,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Baby Johnson. Yeah, I understand you take a lot from
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: all of those guys. There's there's no question about it,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and yet they're all different in their own ways. Did
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you ever find and this is another parent question, that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that you didn't. I'm gonna I'm gonna think you're gonna
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: say I respected them all. But the point is you
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: can respect them all, but that doesn't necessarily mean that
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you see things the way that they do. These kids
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: are gonna grow up on teams with coaches that they
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: just that they don't they don't understand, they don't get.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: So what's the message for parents to the kids. Given
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: who you've dealt with over your career, and you could,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: let's just say you didn't get along with Buck. I'm
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: sure you did, but you didn't. I didn't get along
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: with Buck. And everyone's like, well, that's okay. How do
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: you deal with that?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you put your head down, you put
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: your work in and and that's all you can control.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: You'd be a good teammate. You do what's asked of you.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I tell my son that all the time. Carl, it's
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: amazing you brought that up because I said, Brooks, do
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: you think I enjoyed every coach I had along the way?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: But I tried to take one little thing. I remember
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: an a ball coach, Rick Albert telling me, for the Braves,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: he goes every coach that you have. Think about it
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: like you have a big strainer and all of it
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: goes in. And if you have fifteen twenty coaches in
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: your career, only certain things stick, right. So that's what
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I tried to do from each coach take one, all right,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I can take that moving forward. But I had coaches
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: who didn't believe in me. I had coaches Buck loved me.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Bobby didn't. Bobby didn't think I was an everyday guy.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: He told me that, He's like, you know, I just
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: don't think where you're at right now, I can trust
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: you with three Hall of Famers on the mound and
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: we're trying to win World Series. So and then he
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: told me when I went on and came back to
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: play the Braves, how proud he was of me, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: how you know how much he thought and watched my
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: career from Afar. So, yeah, I always I always made
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: it about team first. I just always felt if I,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: if I try to uplift the guys around me, it
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: was going to create a better environment. You were going
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: to find your way on a field more times than not.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: And I just always wanted to come to the ballpark,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: walk in that clubhouse, Dore and be a real place
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of kind of enjoyment and excitement.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Right well, speaking of enjoyment and excitement, drop the WBC
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: has all of that, you know, and it also introduced
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: us even when you played at nine, I remember recovering
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that it introduced us to the way that different cultures
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: approach baseball with exuberance, with celebration in the stands, with
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: celebrations after homers. Another question from one of the subscribers
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: would be, you know, how should you deal with showboating teenagers?
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: You know who pimp homers? He's of the world. Uh,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it seems like and look the Little League World Series.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You know, you see teams come from other parts of
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the world, and and they're having fun, but their bat
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: flips are going, you know, the bat, they're at second
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: base when the bat comes down. How is a parent
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: do you sort of encourage your children? What have you
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: what have you found?
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've I mean obviously I've softened my stance on this. Uh,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: truth be told. The way we grew up, I didn't
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: like it, right and I still don't like it, But
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I also understand different generation. It's their game now. I
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: don't mind it if done in celebration with your teammates
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and excited for the game. If directed at the other team, yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I take take a little lumberge with that. So it's
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: not my style of play. I definitely like a little swag.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I like a little like, I'll be the first to
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: admit my son's rocking the neon sleeves and the Bruce
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: bolts and the eye black and the blonde hair for
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: the States and I'm in, I got it all. Like,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: but I also think there's there's a respect to the
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: game that that still needs to be their respect to
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the respect to your opponent as well as long as
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: they're showing it to you.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, in Dero, you brought up your son again.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I get you, know, and when you think about it
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: as a parent, your perspective kind of changes when you
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: see things through that lens, right, And I know a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: lot of other guys like Craig Consul and his two sons,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Jack and Brady, and and there's this expectation that these
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: guys carry right when their dad was a big leaguer
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and then their dad's in the spotlight. How do you
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: help your son in those situations where he just wants
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to be Brooks and not Mark de Rosa's son. How
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: do you try to separate that conversation with him?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's an ongoing discussion. I don't think he
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: can run from it. It is you know, it is
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: what it is. It's not going away. I just tell
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: him he's got to carve out his own path. My
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: son's a perfect example, right thirteen years old, hit towards
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the lineup, little undersized at the time,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: but he showed flashes. There was flashes of a good swing.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: We obviously worked tirelessly at home together. Fourteen more of
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the same, then last summer growth spurt, weight goes on.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Here we go. So I remember first. I always attacked
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: it with my dad, loved the game. Was hard on
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: me when it came to baseball. No other sport was
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: hard on me when it came to baseball, But I
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: always would tie it in a bow at the end.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: The only reason I say these things to you is
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: because I see something special in you. That's what he
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: always used to say. So he would grind me out,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: and I always felt like, did all the negative car
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: rides home help me? No, I don't think they did.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I take again the strainer concept. I take what I loved,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: how my dad attacked the game with me, and I
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: use that and some of the stuff I didn't think
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: helped me. I try, I try not to do with
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: with my son, but certainly can't run from run from
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the expectations. But I just I go back to a
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: place where I just wanted him to love the game,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: love something. If he told me, Dad, golf sit, we're
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: in like it didn't have to be baseball. But he
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: grew up around it. Last summer he started to show
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: real flash is of being a real dude. And he
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: got on first base early in the year and he
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: looked at me and he had just turned around some
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: really good kid. And I said, do you want to
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: do this like you could? There's something here like do
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: you really want to do this? And he's like, yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I do. I said, all right, then, then I might
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: have to change the way I attack it a little bit.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna get after it a little harder.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin had the same conversation with me with this
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: whole dirt for the dugout. You've done enough? Aren't you
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: just ready to shut it down?
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I just want parents, if I can, If I can
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: tell the parents, if they take one thing they every
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: year is a standalone right now. As long as your
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: son or daughter shows an effort and and a want
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: to get better and willing to work when no one's watching,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: things can change quickly. The bottom of my lineup at
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: thirteen is now my.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Top no question. Yeah, I agree, there's no about the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: biggest thing when you're talking about kids. I mean, we
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: all mature at different ages. I mean there's no question
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: about that's, you know, an undersized nine year old maybe
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the biggest kid at fourteen. So instilling confidence is really
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: important and maybe maybe patience and maybe effort is going
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to be it. But there's another question here for the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: subscriber that says, is there a particular trait that you've
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: seen positively impact your career or someone else's that parents
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: should try to foster in their kids. Is there one
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: or two or three traits that you look for? And
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I'll just preface the question by saying I asked Brian
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: O'Connor two weeks ago from Mississippi State and Schlosnagel about
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: these things. They both had different answers, but I'm interested
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: in what yours is. Then I'll share theirs after.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I think for me it sounds cliche, but I think
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: for me, a lot of it comes down to being
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: a good teammate, having that interconfidence and belief in yourself
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: that you are one of the better players, or you're
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: gonna be one of the better players and willing to
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: get it done. But also, and I say, this baseball
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: is like no other sport. If you can't, you gotta
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: understand that you're going to fail. You've gotta be okay
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: with it. Not every oh for three you have to
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: run and hit till your hands bleed. I think the
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: biggest thing for me is quality of the bat quality
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: of the compete, understanding the fundamentals of the game, being
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: a good teammate. I would say those are a couple
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: couple of things.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'll come secondary like to do everything right in this game.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: It does, you know, And I know that's one of
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a great buckets.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I had a tough time with that. Yeah, carry to
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: calculator and able because I was so fixated on batting average.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: And I had a guy I'll never forget his name,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I'm there. I used to hide it on the bus
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: and be like, all right, we're going boise if I
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: go ten for twenty, what am I hitting? And I
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: had a guy Corey Pointer from Watch Watch a Hatchie Texas.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget him. And he saw it. He took
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the calculator and he smashed it right right at my feet.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: On the bus and he said, dude, get used to
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: going oh for four like it's you're playing with the
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: big boys now. And if you can't handle the fact
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: that you're gonna fail seven out of ten times or
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: more than that, then you're gonna have a tough time
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: getting through this. Fast forward to two thousand and six.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I'm on deck with the Texas Rangers and I hear, hey,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: d row, I turn around. It's Corey Pointer. I never
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: forgot them.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, be able to calculate that in your own head,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: though as a pen guy, you'd think you'd figure that
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: out on your own without the calculator.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And I wouldn't even care about batting average now. I'd
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: be chasing slug and ops.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And all this all right? Was that one hundred plus
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that should have been a hit plus? You got it Nowaday,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: If they had giant scoreboards, the batting average or whatever
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: number they're putting up screams in your face. As you're
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: standing in the bat you can see all the numbers
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: up there on the screen, O'Connor said, and he was
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: talking more about you know, kids, He said, I make
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: sure you focus on fun when you starting this whole journey.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Make it fun, because if you get into that serious
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: stuff when you're nine or ten, you're probably you may
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: lose the kids. So I want That's what Brian O'Connor
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: said of Mississippi State First have fun, Slasnego got into
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the more things you did, including you know, I want
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to see how the kid acts when when he thinks
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: no one is looking at him, which referred to one
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: other question.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Chase fun, Right, you chase fun? Where are you at
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: at that moment? If you're not like top draw at
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: eleven years old, don't go on that team and sit
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: the bench and be miserable. Go find where you can get.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: You're at bats.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. The question came. You brought up teammate.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: How do you define and you've seen it at every level,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: how do you define what a good teammate is? What
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: does that mean?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I always felt like it was want and good for
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: the guy next to you. Again, I go back to
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: all the managers I had in the minor leagues. Paul Rung,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: he was my high A ball manager. He said, if
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: you're good enough, you're playing the big leagues, no one,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: no one will stop you. There's you know, thirty teams
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: out there, and I bring that back all the way
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: to like high school, college, even even with the youth kids.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: It's like the only way to be a good teammate
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: is to want good for the guy next to you.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Bottom line, I just think it creates such a better
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: environment in the dugout in where there's no animosity. There,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: there's nobody wishing bad on the guy all If this
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: guy goes down, maybe I get a spot. And now
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: that's just bad karma all around. So I was always
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: there to uplift my teammates, be an honest sounding board
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: for them. I wanted feed constructive criticism as well when
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I was having a rough one. So I yeah, I
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: fed off that stuff trying to create that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And as you know, d row and justin so much
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: easier said than done. Because and at the Little League
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: World Series where there was a team from Tennessee there,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Tim Corbin came the great coach at Vanderbilt. He said, RAVI,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you know what, this is really the last time that
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: baseball player plays for the name on the front of
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the uniform versus the name on the back of the uniform.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You're trying to win with your buddies, you're rooting for
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: your buddies. And then in the you know, in the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: high school level, college level, major leagues, it's wonderful to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: suggest we're all rooting for each other. And there comes
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a point in the season when that happens, when you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: realize we could we could win a championship. Now we
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: got to be all of a team and less about me.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: So that's it's to me, it's an easier said than
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: done the thing. But when you get it, it's cold.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: It's money, I think because I taught, you know, for
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: me my career, RAVI. I came up with the Braves
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: in their heyday. You know, I was a sunde spot starter.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I was a pinch hitter off the bench. I was
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: a defensive replacement, and and then you know, I always
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: aspired to want to start right. So you just keep
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: working hard and you keep grinding, you keep taking these
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: nuggets from these great players. But even going back to
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: like my high school days, you know, being one of
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the better players on the team, I wanted I wanted
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: good for the guy next to me. I wanted the
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: eight hole hitter to have a moment. I still say
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: that when I go to my son's game, and you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: maybe a kid who's having a down year comes up
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: in a big spot and you're like, man, just you know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: give him this moment. He'll remember this, this high school
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: moment for the rest of his life.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you root so hard. Question, you rooted so hard
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: for that kid, didn't happen. Listen, you've been amazing before
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: we let you go. A couple of things we're going
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: to do with every one of our guests, and I've
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: done it with the coaches that I've talked to so far.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: We asked you, Mark, who your MVP in your baseball
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: life was, and that's the most valuable person, not the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: most valuable player. Who is the most valuable person in
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: your baseball life? Isra was?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Without hesitation, it was my father. Yeah, just you know, obviously,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of guys can say this, but
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: just the greatest guy I ever knew and lost them
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: in twenty twelve. I actually was going to retire after
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: twelve because I didn't feel that I didn't want to
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: play just for me. I felt like I played my
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: entire career to bring him happiness and joy, and I
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: probably brought him a lot of heartache as well. But yeah,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I go back to being a kid, right
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: like my dad work. He'd come home at five o'clock,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: he'd walk in the door and then i'd, you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I'd be outside throwing a ball against the garage or whatever,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: and that back door always opened, man rolling me ground
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: balls or you know, wanted to teach me something about
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the game. So he was he was the one.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Well, he did well, which is why you ended up
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: managing the WBC such a long career. We love watching
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you on MLB Nework. The last thing is I'm gonna
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: throw the kitchen sink at you. Just more quick questions.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'll start with one that was sent in and says,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and I know you're a sports fan. If if every
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: team could add a non baseball athlete to their roster,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: so an athlete from an who would you pick to
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: win the game?
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: A non baseball athlete to their roster? Who would you pick?
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Who's who are you taking? Woman? Man? Who you tak beck?
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, God, that's a tough question. I'm not getting
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: stumped too often. I mean, the first person that comes
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: to my mind is is Troy Aikman, Because for me,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: it was Troy Aikman and Don Mattingly. They were the
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: two posters on my wall.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's good, that's good enough. You have
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: one meal that's in the clubhouse. What's what's the meal?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: What is your what's de Ro's meal?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: In honor of Cinco de Mayo. Give me a nice
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Mexican spread. I will slaughter that. Yeah, throw me some
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: make it, you know, give me to give me the
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: bucket of chicken, the bucket of beef, the buck give
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: me some night and let me do let me do
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: my thing.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: All right. Uh. If you're scanning through your TV and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the Yankee game is it on? And you come across
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a movie, what movie makes you stop and watch the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: rest of it?
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I watched a million of Jaws. Really is one? Mdero.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Do you go in the ocean?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I do, I do, But I can't take my
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: eyes off that movie. That and Rocky whatever Rocky. We
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: got working.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: We used to go down to Point Pleasant d Row
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and for some reason we swim at night. And all
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I did was here the I went in the water
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: at night, Like this is the thing that we're never
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: coming out of the water. Dumbess.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: We're lucky, We're lucky. We still have your call.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Some of you.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks. You mean you you're part of the maiden voyage.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm looking around. Thank you so much for
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: doing it now.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me guys.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Good luck you right well, justin, I mean, I'm not
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: sure you're getting a better lead off here than a
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: guy that had the stories he did, who's involved with
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: the coaching that he's been involved with. He's got a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: son in the middle of it. And you can't thank
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the people enough who ask those questions and that's how
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: this is gonna work and it's only going to grow
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: from here. But really, thanks to everybody that got involved
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and asked those questions as well.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome questions tonight too, rav. I mean, you know
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: it's interesting too getting insight from d Roh just in
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the different aspects of his life and seeing the different perspectives,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: you know, as the former big leaguer and then you
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: have you know, USA manager, and then you have Dad.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's cool to to hear the different perspectives
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: that he brings. And as you kind of like peel
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: this back as a parent, if you're a parent watching
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: or listening, everybody when they're a parent is dealing with
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of the same things. You know, even if
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Hero is a former big leaguer and Team USA manager,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. At some point when you peel all
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: that back, there's still the challenging time after games, there's
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: still the rough patches in the performance, there's still the
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: recruiting side if they want to play beyond that, there's
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: still challenges. And uh, it was just awesome to kind
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: of hear some of that too, Rabby. That was that
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: was a great, great insight from him, and loved hearing
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: his perspectives on those.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And you know, I looked,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I did some research. His wife had a great quote
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: which I didn't We didn't get you tonight because we've
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: got a ran out of time. But his wife had suggested, like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you know, you're a you're a baseball player. And one
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: thing that's really important, and I think that does apply
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: to little leaguers and high schoolers and college players. She said,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: you walk through that door and you leave your uniform
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: at the door, which means you've got to be able to,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: especially in this sport, you got to flush it. And
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: that means when you come through the door, I'm mom,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm Dad. That's your sister because you grounded
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you a double play doesn't mean you're going to be
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: angry all night and that's not how this works. And
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: it was really an insightful lesson from his wife to him,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure he and many other parents have to
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: share with their kids. Well, great start, We've got great
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: guests coming up. We mentioned some of the names, and
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: we hope you enjoyed it Justin. I know I did that.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it's come to fruition and it went
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: better than I imagined it would go.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Rabby. I'm excited for this ride with
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: you man. This will be fun.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And as a reminder, please everybody, we encourage you to
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• 50:05
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• 50:11
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