Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Strengthening LAI Prep Care with EHR Optimization at Callen-Lorde Community Health Center
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- 0:00Hi, everyone. This is Lucas Voss with Becker's
- 0:02Healthcare. Thanks so much for tuning in to
- 0:04the Becker's Healthcare podcast series. Great to have
- 0:07you.
- 0:08We're talking about how provider organizations are leveraging
- 0:11EHRs and EMRs to coordinate care
- 0:14and navigate insurance requirements for HIV prep patients
- 0:18prescribed long acting injectables or LAIs.
- 0:22And joining me for today's discussion, very excited
- 0:24to have him, is Steven Sugimaran. He's the
- 0:26director of the LAI program at Callen Lorde
- 0:28Community Health Center. Steven, Steven, thanks so much
- 0:30for being here today. It's great to have
- 0:31you.
- 0:32Thanks, Lucas, for having me. Excited. Absolutely. I
- 0:35wanna start off with introductions for the audience
- 0:37that might not know you yet at least.
- 0:38To kick us off, if you wanted to
- 0:40share a little bit about yourself and your
- 0:42work in health care.
- 0:44Sure. So I am a public health professional
- 0:47with a background working with and alongside sexual
- 0:49minority and vulnerable populations.
- 0:51As you mentioned, I'm currently the director of
- 0:54the long acting injectables program at Callen Lorde
- 0:56Community Health Center, where we provide welcoming and
- 0:59supportive health care for the LGBTQ plus community
- 1:02all across New York City regardless of their
- 1:04ability to pay. I was most recently the
- 1:06deputy director
- 1:07of an NIH funded AIDS research center at
- 1:10Columbia University and the New York State Psychiatric
- 1:12Institute.
- 1:13And prior to that, I was engaged in
- 1:14HIV and emerging infectious disease surveillance in the
- 1:17greater Atlanta area.
- 1:18I also have significant experience supervising intensive HIV
- 1:22case management and care coordination programs in New
- 1:24York City, particularly those accessing care at New
- 1:26York Presbyterian Hospital and the former St. Vincent's
- 1:29Hospital.
- 1:30My work has always centered on advancing health
- 1:32equity, and I'm passionate about using data innovation
- 1:35and community partnerships to improve outcomes for underserved
- 1:37populations.
- 1:38And I love to have you on for
- 1:40this conversation specifically because of all of your
- 1:43experience. More than anybody, really, I think you
- 1:46know all of these complex operational challenges,
- 1:49that
- 1:50patients on LAI prep really face. They are
- 1:54complex and multifaceted
- 1:56dose timing,
- 1:57insurance navigation,
- 1:58obviously, scheduling. Right?
- 2:01Before optimizing
- 2:03your EHR workflows,
- 2:05what were some of the biggest pain points
- 2:07that you and your team encountered
- 2:10in coordinating care for these patients?
- 2:13Yeah. So like you went through, there are
- 2:15a number of barriers to LA access in
- 2:17practices like Helen Lord. I would say first
- 2:20and foremost is reimbursement complexity.
- 2:22Mhmm. There are a number of commercial health
- 2:24plans, each with multiple lines of business that
- 2:26have different rules and policies within them. In
- 2:29New York state, we bill as a pharmacy
- 2:30or medical benefit. If medical benefit, we're able
- 2:33to utilize a $3.40 b savings that support
- 2:35administrative and clinical burden,
- 2:37but plans appear to resist this with hurdles
- 2:39like prior authorization.
- 2:41There's also variation in the length of authorization
- 2:43across payers and lines of business.
- 2:45We found that LAIs also exacerbate credentialing challenges.
- 2:48So sometimes that requires a PCP alignment, or
- 2:51the PCP listed on the patient's insurance must
- 2:54match the provider they're seeing for the injection
- 2:56visit.
- 2:57One thing that we tend to keep an
- 2:58eye on are coverage gaps, especially in our
- 3:01current economic state. Many folks are under insured
- 3:04or uninsured
- 3:05or will be expecting a job loss, and
- 3:07losing their employer based insurance, which can make
- 3:09adherence and persistence difficult to manage.
- 3:12About half the patients that we see are
- 3:13on Medicaid plans, so that must be checked
- 3:15on the first of every month to ensure
- 3:17the plans weren't terminated
- 3:19the day prior.
- 3:20And lastly, we're seeing denial rates well beyond
- 3:23what we typically see for other procedures or
- 3:25injections. And it seems that payers will attempt
- 3:27to run out the clock to avoid the
- 3:29pills processes,
- 3:30running the risk that we eat the cost
- 3:31of the injections.
- 3:33Yeah. You mentioned coverage gaps there and certainly
- 3:35some of the other elements here that are
- 3:37very tied to complex
- 3:39workflows, that are tied to very, sometimes labor
- 3:43intensive workflows.
- 3:44What are some of the steps that you
- 3:46and your team took to streamline some of
- 3:48this to make workflows easier within
- 3:50the EHR or EMR?
- 3:53Right. Yeah. So it became quickly evident that
- 3:55complex systems would slow the adoption of LAI
- 3:57prep. So if we wanted our program to
- 3:59grow, we we we needed to leverage our
- 4:01resources to optimize our workflows.
- 4:04So we created an LAI optimization work group
- 4:06comprising cross departmental experts meeting weekly and ad
- 4:09hoc as needed. And this work group had
- 4:11representation from senior and clinical leadership, as well
- 4:14as billing, operations and scheduling, and also IT.
- 4:17So some of the immediate challenges we wanted
- 4:19to address included
- 4:21inconsistent documentation. So the templates we were using
- 4:24and the alerts within our electronic health record
- 4:26were not standardized.
- 4:28Only a few providers were trained to conduct
- 4:30our eligibility screenings at the time, and insurance
- 4:32verification processes took a lot of time per
- 4:35patient and per appointment, approximately twenty to forty
- 4:37minutes. So we wanted to avoid any duplicative
- 4:40efforts,
- 4:42and we were relying on about five to
- 4:45six separate Excel spreadsheets, which became cumbersome.
- 4:48So we decided to optimize a preexisting template
- 4:51within our electronic health record,
- 4:54and this template puts all the tools that
- 4:56a provider needs to complete a specific visit
- 4:58into a single screen, which increases workflow efficacy
- 5:01and speed.
- 5:02So our template includes the initial LAI prep
- 5:05prescription for insurance verification,
- 5:08an internal referral for tracking, and a clinical
- 5:10checklist, which guides a provider in documenting and
- 5:13screening what's needed while including baseline requirements to
- 5:15familiarize the patient in the process of being
- 5:17on LAIs.
- 5:18And following this optimization, we saw a 150%
- 5:21increase in weekly LAI appointments, while by the
- 5:24time of this recording, doubling the number of
- 5:26patients initiated on LAI prep and persisting.
- 5:29Also importantly, our time from referral to LAI
- 5:31initiation went from months to about fourteen days.
- 5:35Again, so interesting because you have the direct
- 5:38impact on patient access
- 5:40and on, obviously, the benefits that patients have
- 5:43through the optimization, which is key not only
- 5:45from an organizational perspective, but also for your
- 5:48community, which is crucial.
- 5:50You spoke a little bit about the templates
- 5:52and some of the centralizations.
- 5:54If we dive into that more in specifics,
- 5:57how did tools like electronic prior authorizations
- 6:00or we also have enhanced medication administration records,
- 6:02etcetera,
- 6:04change your day to day operations then?
- 6:07Electronic prior authorizations are really, really helpful because
- 6:10they can be initiated and processed directly through
- 6:12our EHR.
- 6:13Requests can be auto populated with patient and
- 6:15prescription data, and responses patients wait less time
- 6:18to be initiated on LAI. We've also incorporated
- 6:20the medication administration record in our screening tool
- 6:23that I mentioned. So if a patient is
- 6:26interested in the latest LAI prep product, this
- 6:29product is So if a patient is interested
- 6:31in the latest LAI prep product,
- 6:33this product is has known to have some
- 6:35drug drug interaction, so it's critical that the
- 6:37provider can review the MAR MAR in real
- 6:39time when making a referral.
- 6:42Yeah. Certainly adds to the process as well.
- 6:44I wanna talk a little bit about the
- 6:46the human side of things here. The human
- 6:49element of all of this because it's certainly
- 6:51key, especially when we're optimizing, when we're changing
- 6:54things
- 6:55around. Coordinating prep, LAI care often, you know,
- 6:58it involves multidisciplinary
- 7:00teams, multiple system touch points as you've just
- 7:03outlined.
- 7:04Can you share how collaboration across those teams
- 7:08supported all of this optimization that you just
- 7:10highlighted and and what kind of impact you've
- 7:12seen? You've you've already highlighted some of the
- 7:14numbers, which are incredible, but what has this
- 7:16done for you?
- 7:18Yes. Coordinating an LII prep program absolutely requires
- 7:21collaboration among
- 7:23clinical pharmacy, nursing, care coordination, outreach,
- 7:27and administration teams. The list goes on, really.
- 7:30Everyone plays a role in ensuring our patients
- 7:32move seamlessly through process from education and eligibility
- 7:35to initiation, adherence, and retention.
- 7:38Currently,
- 7:38broader LAI team meets twice weekly to review
- 7:41all upcoming LAI appointments to ensure all potential
- 7:44barriers to care and coverage are addressed before
- 7:46our patients even come in to see us.
- 7:48So collaboration transforms a program from a set
- 7:51of siloed services to a well coordinated
- 7:54comprehensive prevention system.
- 7:55This has led to improved access, higher patient
- 7:58satisfaction, stronger adherence and persistence, and a measurable
- 8:01public health impact.
- 8:03Really, truly a more proactive approach, which then,
- 8:06again, as we've talked about, really impacts,
- 8:09the patients, the communities, which is crucial and
- 8:12a key part of these optimizations. Steven, it's
- 8:15so fantastic to have you on. I wanna
- 8:17leave you with the floor here, so to
- 8:19speak. Anything else that we haven't touched on
- 8:21that that you'd wanna share with our listeners?
- 8:24Yeah. Just, you know, just overall summarize
- 8:26that leveraging electronic health records isn't about technology
- 8:29for its own sake. It's about making sure
- 8:31people who could benefit from long acting PrEP
- 8:34don't fall through the cracks.
- 8:35When we design these systems thoughtfully, we make
- 8:38prevention easier, more equitable, and more sustainable.
- 8:41And it's a really exciting moment right now
- 8:43for HIV prevention.
- 8:44EHR based coordination for long acting prep can
- 8:47serve as a model for how we use
- 8:48data and and integration to close gaps and
- 8:50access across many preventive services.
- 8:53And, again, none of this happens in isolation.
- 8:55It takes collaboration between clinicians, the data teams,
- 8:57pharmacists, and community partners. So I'd encourage anyone
- 9:00working in these spaces to think about how
- 9:02their systems can help make innovation and equity
- 9:04go hand in hand.
- 9:05Steven, so great to have you on. Thanks
- 9:07for your time and insights today. Thank you
- 9:09so much. It's great to have you, and
- 9:11I'd also like to thank our sponsor, Gilead
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