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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the week of March the first, and this is
- 0:06Speaker 1: what's on the People's News. Hid closes schools, bringing fear
- 0:11Speaker 1: to the community after being closed for over a decade.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Riverside Hospital is serving once again. The State of the
- 0:21Speaker 1: Union speech was the longest by any US president, How
- 0:25Speaker 1: it will affect the upcoming midterms, and what was learned.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Mexico on fire as cartel leader killed. We play part
- 0:36Speaker 1: one of the remembrance of Russia's attack on Ukraine. Dynamo
- 0:41Speaker 1: go down and defeat with only nine men on the field.
- 0:46Speaker 1: All this and more on the People's News. I'm Steve Gallington.
- 0:50Speaker 1: This is the People's News, and the People's News starts now.
- 0:59Speaker 1: The select did not elected appointed by the tea board
- 1:04Speaker 1: of Houston Independent School District voted to close twelve schools
- 1:09Speaker 1: next year. They have said the schools closed have poor
- 1:13Speaker 1: attendance and that the students will be moved to other
- 1:16Speaker 1: schools in the area. The community came out to the
- 1:19Speaker 1: school board meeting to show their feelings of discontent. This
- 1:23Speaker 1: comes as long term teachers are leaving. The announcement comes
- 1:27Speaker 1: as Superintendent Mike Miles said he would not be closing
- 1:31Speaker 1: schools when he was first appointed into the role. There
- 1:34Speaker 1: have been some improvements in HISD underneath the tea takeover.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Ruth Huffman Lack is a school psychologist and a community member.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
- 1:46Speaker 3: It's twelve communities, right, It's not just one, and each
- 1:49Speaker 3: of those are is an entity that is has a
- 1:55Speaker 3: tradition and has history and has meaning for the family,
- 2:00Speaker 3: send the children and the you know, the staff.
- 2:03Speaker 4: And teachers and everybody who's involved. And breaking up communities
- 2:07Speaker 4: is sort of the modus operandi of this district under
- 2:12Speaker 4: Mike Miles and all of everything we know about what
- 2:16Speaker 4: it's really best for children and what's best in education
- 2:19Speaker 4: is building communities and building community schools and having places
- 2:23Speaker 4: where kids feel safe and feel known, and where parents
- 2:29Speaker 4: feel that they're connected and that there are resources and
- 2:33Speaker 4: that people are there for them. And so you know,
- 2:37Speaker 4: this started with putting in policies that drove out good teachers,
- 2:42Speaker 4: that require you know, require teachers to treat all students
- 2:47Speaker 4: as little robots, and that you know, ignore special needs
- 2:50Speaker 4: and not allow kids to have time to socialize. And anyway,
- 2:54Speaker 4: it's you know, it's started at the beginning, right, and
- 2:57Speaker 4: then all the teachers have been leaving in prison. Siples
- 3:00Speaker 4: have been turned over at that. You know, some schools
- 3:02Speaker 4: are on their fourth principle and all of that is
- 3:04Speaker 4: just completely about disruption and none of that is good
- 3:08Speaker 4: for learning, and none of that is good to the emotional,
- 3:12Speaker 4: you know, psychological well being of anybody involved, especially with children.
- 3:15Speaker 2: So this is just sort of.
- 3:17Speaker 4: The next thing to be expected. It's pretty clear that that,
- 3:22Speaker 4: you know, the intention of this takeover was to destroy
- 3:25Speaker 4: the district, and that's what they're doing. So it's it's
- 3:29Speaker 4: it's just a tragedy, travity, a tragedy.
- 3:33Speaker 5: Also adding also adding to that the propamvation of the schools.
- 3:37Speaker 4: It's horrible. And it's interesting you see in the plan
- 3:42Speaker 4: for the eighteen eighty two and particularly the presentation last
- 3:47Speaker 4: night that they did about the pre k idea for
- 3:52Speaker 4: eighteen eighty two's that the idea is to basically be
- 3:58Speaker 4: able to get tax dollars into the hands of for
- 4:00Speaker 4: profit companies, right because charters in Texas, you only have
- 4:06Speaker 4: to have a nonprofit in to get a charter. And
- 4:10Speaker 4: once you are given a charter, you can open as
- 4:12Speaker 4: many schools as you want. You don't have to get
- 4:14Speaker 4: each one approved. But the charters end up being pretty
- 4:18Speaker 4: much like sell companies, and they hire for profit companies
- 4:22Speaker 4: to administer everything. So the nonprofit, you know, the tax
- 4:26Speaker 4: dollars go technically to a nonprofit, but the nonprofit that
- 4:30Speaker 4: money actually goes to for profits. And that turns into
- 4:33Speaker 4: the same model as what we have with healthcare now,
- 4:35Speaker 4: right that everything is driven by for profit insurance companies
- 4:38Speaker 4: that are taking this money and then figuring out how
- 4:41Speaker 4: they can keep more of it for themselves and provide
- 4:43Speaker 4: the least amount of service. And well, that's that's what
- 4:46Speaker 4: this is set it towards. And we've known that from
- 4:48Speaker 4: the beginning.
- 4:50Speaker 5: Yeah, and the state, the states looking at as a
- 4:54Speaker 5: as a benefit to think that the teachers aren't learning
- 4:57Speaker 5: and that the teachause are learning, and this a better
- 5:01Speaker 5: way to talk to one of the people that's that's
- 5:04Speaker 5: a proponent of chartered schools and said, the kids are
- 5:08Speaker 5: going to be educated now, they're going to be great,
- 5:10Speaker 5: and they're going to it's not going to kill the
- 5:11Speaker 5: public school and and and the governor said that more
- 5:14Speaker 5: money is going to be put put back into the
- 5:17Speaker 5: public schools.
- 5:19Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not going to happen.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Money is not going into public schools.
- 5:25Speaker 6: I'm just saying way what the governor said.
- 5:28Speaker 5: You know, he said they he said that this past
- 5:31Speaker 5: legislation that they allocated fast amounts of money to go
- 5:35Speaker 5: back to public school.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he says a lot of things that
- 5:39Speaker 4: aren't true. So I mean that's that's nothing new. I mean,
- 5:44Speaker 4: there's no reason to believe any of that. It is
- 5:48Speaker 4: not we're not doing this in a vacuum. It's there
- 5:52Speaker 4: are plenty of other states that have had We have
- 5:58Speaker 4: plenty of data from other states and from other places
- 6:01Speaker 4: where charters have taken over. New Orleans is a great example,
- 6:04Speaker 4: you know, and education in New Orleans is a nightmare
- 6:06Speaker 4: and it has not gotten better, it's gotten worse. And
- 6:11Speaker 4: the thing with charter. The other thing with charters is
- 6:13Speaker 4: there's no board, right, there's no it's not a public
- 6:15Speaker 4: there's no public accountability. And so you can call charters
- 6:21Speaker 4: quote public because they are paid for by public dollars,
- 6:26Speaker 4: but they do not operate the way the public school
- 6:28Speaker 4: districts do. And it's just a money making scheme. And
- 6:31Speaker 4: we know that. We've that's what Mike Miles has been
- 6:34Speaker 4: doing forever in Colorado, and it's what he's been trying
- 6:37Speaker 4: to do here in Texas, and that's what he's doing.
- 6:41Speaker 5: Do you think any other high schools will be afflicted
- 6:43Speaker 5: in a new future or is it to say that
- 6:48Speaker 5: these cutting of schools are based on enrollment?
- 6:52Speaker 6: That's what he's saying.
- 6:53Speaker 4: Well, the enrollment is the thing. He's a lot that
- 6:55Speaker 4: he can. You know, that's his So he of course
- 6:58Speaker 4: they came in and created a situation where enrollment decreased. Right,
- 7:01Speaker 4: Let's just make sure we make that point, Like, the
- 7:04Speaker 4: population of Houston is increasing, but the enrollment in a
- 7:09Speaker 4: I C Is decreasing, and there are other reasons for that,
- 7:11Speaker 4: but you know, there wasn't. I'm not ignoring that there
- 7:14Speaker 4: is a there's a lower birth rate, there's all that stuff.
- 7:17Speaker 4: But if the population is increasing, then the enrollment in
- 7:22Speaker 4: schools should not be decreasing precipitously, right, And it's very
- 7:27Speaker 4: clear that that. I mean, that's just we don't even
- 7:30Speaker 4: need to verify that that people are leading the district
- 7:32Speaker 4: because of him. So he created a situation where enrollment
- 7:35Speaker 4: went down, and then he gets to use that, as
- 7:36Speaker 4: you know, as a reason of close schools. Then he'll
- 7:38Speaker 4: sell off the building and and make money for his
- 7:42Speaker 4: buddies right. And the high school closures are harder. It's
- 7:48Speaker 4: harder to close the high school because it's they're not
- 7:52Speaker 4: you know, they have so many schools feed into a
- 7:54Speaker 4: high school. His justification is always has to do with
- 7:57Speaker 4: how many kids are in the building versus how much
- 8:00Speaker 4: you know, how many kids the building is designed to hold,
- 8:03Speaker 4: and and how much uh, what's the word?
- 8:09Speaker 6: You know?
- 8:10Speaker 4: How much the conditions of the building being good, you know,
- 8:13Speaker 4: not good. And we don't have high schools. Most high schools,
- 8:19Speaker 4: I don't I'm not aware of one at least that
- 8:21Speaker 4: has a significantly lower enrollment enrollment than what the building
- 8:25Speaker 4: can hold.
- 8:26Speaker 6: Plus if he closed high schools.
- 8:27Speaker 4: He would have to put those kids somewhere else. And
- 8:30Speaker 4: I don't think that there are enough schools.
- 8:33Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 8:33Speaker 4: I don't know that you could absorb that number, a
- 8:35Speaker 4: whole high school worth of kids.
- 8:36Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 8:38Speaker 5: But you know, that was something that mac neil said
- 8:40Speaker 5: that you know, it pretty problems a lot of things
- 8:42Speaker 5: when we came in here, and on one was that
- 8:47Speaker 5: we have better schools, We have better teachers and the
- 8:50Speaker 5: teachers aspect of heard we're losing teachers, but we're gaining teachers.
- 8:55Speaker 4: Well, we're losing losing teachers that have experience, and we're
- 8:58Speaker 4: gaining teachers who are straight off the street, who have
- 9:00Speaker 4: no teaching experience at all and are just reading a script.
- 9:04Speaker 5: Right, And that's one of the problems we have is
- 9:06Speaker 5: that they have to read this to go about the
- 9:09Speaker 5: guidelines of hid So the script so to speak, it's
- 9:14Speaker 5: not so.
- 9:14Speaker 4: To speak script, it is actually a script.
- 9:16Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a script.
- 9:18Speaker 7: Wow wow.
- 9:19Speaker 4: So if they alter any of the any of the slides,
- 9:23Speaker 4: they have to read exactly straight what's on the slide
- 9:26Speaker 4: it all, they get in trouble. Even if there is
- 9:29Speaker 4: an error on the slide, they are not allowed to
- 9:31Speaker 4: correct it.
- 9:34Speaker 6: Oh wow, that is that you know?
- 9:37Speaker 2: You just leave it that way? Yeah wow, it's crazy.
- 9:43Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah.
- 9:45Speaker 5: So at the end of result of all this, right
- 9:47Speaker 5: now that the city was one of the one of the.
- 9:49Speaker 6: City council member was asking for uh Mike Miles to
- 9:53Speaker 6: come to city council and speak.
- 9:54Speaker 5: On the closing of the schools because not only effects
- 9:56Speaker 5: this the area that's evolved, but for our kids. So
- 10:02Speaker 5: but what the mayor, the mayor is saying that it's
- 10:05Speaker 5: not it's not really a concern of the city.
- 10:10Speaker 4: Yeah, well, unfortunately, Houston has had a long history of this.
- 10:14Speaker 4: There's this weird sort of I don't know of any
- 10:17Speaker 4: other major city, grant you, I'm not a scholar on this,
- 10:20Speaker 4: but it is weird that Houston, being the size of
- 10:23Speaker 4: the city it is. There's been this long thing about
- 10:25Speaker 4: the city government and the school district never have anything
- 10:30Speaker 4: to do with one another.
- 10:30Speaker 6: They do not that.
- 10:31Speaker 4: That's like they're just two separate totally. So, and I'm
- 10:35Speaker 4: sure that has to do with money in politics. But
- 10:38Speaker 4: you know, the mayor to say that it has nothing
- 10:42Speaker 4: to do with the city is just completely naive, and
- 10:44Speaker 4: it's I don't think he really believes that. I think
- 10:46Speaker 4: that there you know, there's money behind you know, the
- 10:49Speaker 4: Greater Houston Partnership completely supports Mike Miles. And so the governor,
- 10:55Speaker 4: the mayor doesn't want to make the Greater Houston Partnership mad, right,
- 10:58Speaker 4: and and and Rick Campo, the president of board, is
- 11:01Speaker 4: the big you know, he's the he's a very powerful
- 11:04Speaker 4: man in Houston, let's put it that way. So, you know,
- 11:08Speaker 4: the mayor doesn't want to make them look bad, right,
- 11:10Speaker 4: because he depends on them for his his position. And
- 11:15Speaker 4: but when a school district falls apart of the city
- 11:16Speaker 4: falls apart.
- 11:17Speaker 6: We know that.
- 11:17Speaker 4: I mean, that's just you can't attract people to come
- 11:20Speaker 4: if the schools are horrible. You don't produce people who
- 11:22Speaker 4: can do the work that is needed to be hired,
- 11:25Speaker 4: you know, for hiring. I mean, the whole it's so
- 11:27Speaker 4: obvious and it's not rocket science. So it absolutely affects
- 11:31Speaker 4: the city and it's a huge impact on the city.
- 11:33Speaker 4: But his failure to acknowledge that has to do with
- 11:35Speaker 4: that's politics and power. I would I recommend there's a
- 11:40Speaker 4: Domingo Morrel wrote a book called Takeover Search and ended
- 11:45Speaker 4: up being a book, and he's now.
- 11:47Speaker 2: A professor at YU and he's on the commission for
- 11:49Speaker 2: the State Takeover.
- 11:50Speaker 4: And basically his research showed that statistically, if schools, if
- 11:59Speaker 4: a school district was the same on paper, you know,
- 12:02Speaker 4: in every other way, a district in which there is
- 12:05Speaker 4: a higher percentage of black representation on the city councilor
- 12:09Speaker 4: and the school board is statistically it is there's a
- 12:12Speaker 4: statistically significant difference that a place, a school district where
- 12:19Speaker 4: there is more black power in politics will be taken
- 12:22Speaker 4: over versus a white one where there are where there
- 12:25Speaker 4: are fewer black people in power. It is absolutely the
- 12:29Speaker 4: history of takeovers goes is back to segregation and trying
- 12:34Speaker 4: to keep keep brown and black people down.
- 12:41Speaker 6: And it is it is.
- 12:42Speaker 4: That is the history. It is straightforward and obvious and
- 12:45Speaker 4: it is That's that's what it is really about. And
- 12:50Speaker 4: so you know, don't let anyone tell you about anything else.
- 12:54Speaker 4: It's it's about money for the rich white people and
- 12:58Speaker 4: disenfranchising and keeping black and brown communities down. And that's
- 13:04Speaker 4: it's rights.
- 13:05Speaker 2: That's what it is.
- 13:07Speaker 1: That was Ruth Huffman Lack, who is a school psychologist
- 13:11Speaker 1: and a community member. She spoke on the closing of
- 13:14Speaker 1: twelve schools at HISD starting in the fall. Riverside General Hospital,
- 13:19Speaker 1: in the heart of the Third Ward, opened its doors
- 13:22Speaker 1: for business again on the last day of Black History Month.
- 13:26Speaker 1: The facility was founded in the nineteen twenties as the
- 13:30Speaker 1: Houston Negro Hospital to serve black patients during the segregation
- 13:34Speaker 1: and Jim Crow era. It later became Riverside General Hospital
- 13:38Speaker 1: and operated for decades before closing in twenty fifteen. It
- 13:42Speaker 1: was one of the only places that black doctors could
- 13:45Speaker 1: work and serve the community for those who had no
- 13:48Speaker 1: other place to go. County Commissioner Rodney Ellis spearheaded the
- 13:53Speaker 1: campaign to rebuild the hospital and turn it over to
- 13:56Speaker 1: Harris County Public Health.
- 13:58Speaker 8: So we're very appreciative to the Houston Endowment, in particular
- 14:02Speaker 8: acquiring the land, having worked in the hoops to take
- 14:05Speaker 8: it out of bankruptcy.
- 14:06Speaker 9: And once they did that, they were looking.
- 14:08Speaker 8: For a partner to come up with public cus and
- 14:11Speaker 8: really bring this project to foodis and I'm glad to
- 14:14Speaker 8: think shows Harris County. It was about the time I
- 14:16Speaker 8: was leaving the Senate and becoming a county commissioner, and
- 14:19Speaker 8: then we had a lot of lucky breaks along the way.
- 14:21Speaker 9: Initially there were a lot of.
- 14:23Speaker 8: People in the community who want us to turn this
- 14:24Speaker 8: into another public hospital.
- 14:27Speaker 9: The ruins were just built so small during that era.
- 14:30Speaker 9: It would not be conducive for health care today. So
- 14:33Speaker 9: we're trying to figure out what to do. So we
- 14:35Speaker 9: had two important decisions to make.
- 14:37Speaker 8: One what outward facing public health services could we offer.
- 14:42Speaker 8: We could do telemedicine, we could do STV counseling, who
- 14:45Speaker 8: do obesity counciling.
- 14:46Speaker 9: And then the Lynch fin to make this work was
- 14:49Speaker 9: to make a decision to move some county officers who
- 14:52Speaker 9: were looking for a new space into this community. It
- 14:55Speaker 9: makes sense for health department to be here in the community.
- 14:58Speaker 8: Similar to manymmunities that they need to serve, this is
- 15:02Speaker 8: a community in transition. He starred neighborhood and it was
- 15:05Speaker 8: a challenge to preserve the historic nature of these three
- 15:09Speaker 8: historic uns. We don't do a lot of that in Texas,
- 15:13Speaker 8: in Houston in particular, So that roof that is the
- 15:15Speaker 8: original time that was on that roof, to the extent
- 15:18Speaker 8: we could maintain it some we had to put in
- 15:21Speaker 8: some replacements at a new book on all three of
- 15:23Speaker 8: these roofs.
- 15:24Speaker 9: Inside to do when new go upstairs, you can see.
- 15:26Speaker 8: What we preserved some of the original break and then
- 15:29Speaker 8: we are went case it in a critic.
- 15:31Speaker 9: So you can really appreciate the nature.
- 15:34Speaker 10: Of historic preservation.
- 15:35Speaker 11: With it being the lass a Black History Month, what
- 15:37Speaker 11: do you vote that people at third word one hundred
- 15:40Speaker 11: years from now say about this moment.
- 15:42Speaker 8: I was born in this hospital in nineteen thirty four,
- 15:44Speaker 8: one hundred years ago. In the height of segregation, it
- 15:47Speaker 8: was difficult for black people to find a place to practice.
- 15:50Speaker 9: Medicine or to be born. Many were born in their
- 15:53Speaker 9: homes like my parents were. I was born here. I'm
- 15:56Speaker 9: so appreciative that he was a white all man type
- 16:00Speaker 9: of his day.
- 16:01Speaker 8: John Cullinan who forced the City of Houston to give
- 16:04Speaker 8: up this land when the mayor and seducase that most
- 16:06Speaker 8: people are out racist, forced the city to give up
- 16:09Speaker 8: a city block this land and then put his money
- 16:12Speaker 8: out to build this hospital, to build the Houston Negrosity,
- 16:15Speaker 8: the Nurse Hospital. It says that we have had some
- 16:18Speaker 8: very dark days in the past, and we still have
- 16:21Speaker 8: dark days ahead, but we can make it.
- 16:23Speaker 9: As Jesse Jackson would say, just don't give up.
- 16:26Speaker 12: How important is it to come in the community, this
- 16:29Speaker 12: community here where I grew up. We grew up and
- 16:32Speaker 12: we know healthcare is important and a lot of people
- 16:35Speaker 12: go without here there.
- 16:36Speaker 8: I want to stress that this hospital was always a
- 16:39Speaker 8: beacon of hope, not just for Third One.
- 16:42Speaker 9: I'm from Sundayside. It was a long haul for my
- 16:45Speaker 9: parents in nineteen fifty four with No.
- 16:46Speaker 8: Two eighty eight to get from Sunnayside to get to
- 16:49Speaker 8: Third one. So it really is out with facing health
- 16:52Speaker 8: services to people with downtown Mintown. Third on fifty on
- 16:55Speaker 8: Sundayside New Elth and to move the county health department here.
- 17:00Speaker 9: And a minute people all of Harris County.
- 17:02Speaker 6: All of Houston.
- 17:03Speaker 9: But I wish I could.
- 17:05Speaker 8: Just spend over two hundred bion dollars just for one neighborhood,
- 17:08Speaker 8: but I couldn't do that. So it really is a
- 17:10Speaker 8: part of Third One is in Third War place much.
- 17:12Speaker 9: Bigger than just serving.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Historian and writer Carlton Houston talked about the importance of
- 17:19Speaker 1: the opening and its place in history.
- 17:22Speaker 11: This is an incredible day to see so many people
- 17:25Speaker 11: coming out who care about healthcare, who care about the
- 17:28Speaker 11: lives of all of the Ustonians. A lot of hard
- 17:33Speaker 11: work went into making this day possible. One hundred years ago,
- 17:36Speaker 11: they dreamed of this, They dreamed that this institution would
- 17:40Speaker 11: be serving the community, and here we are making that
- 17:44Speaker 11: dream possible again. There have been ups and downs. It
- 17:48Speaker 11: has not been an easy road, but that's part of
- 17:52Speaker 11: the lesson here that when you tackle big problems, we're
- 17:56Speaker 11: not always going to agree on the path to get
- 17:59Speaker 11: to the shit.
- 18:01Speaker 12: But me growing up here and seeing the hospital growing
- 18:05Speaker 12: up and seeing us opening and knowing how in this
- 18:10Speaker 12: community the need for the community hospital. Because I can't
- 18:13Speaker 12: go elsewhere, and especially dealing with after Americans.
- 18:19Speaker 13: It's amazing.
- 18:20Speaker 11: I mean, one hundred years ago, they were so focused
- 18:26Speaker 11: on the future.
- 18:28Speaker 9: They weren't looking backwards.
- 18:31Speaker 13: You know.
- 18:32Speaker 11: I talked to my mother about this all the time,
- 18:35Speaker 11: and she'll say, you know, I didn't know there was
- 18:37Speaker 11: a history, right because they weren't talking about the eighteen hundreds.
- 18:42Speaker 11: They were head down forward looking, marching to something better.
- 18:48Speaker 11: This is before the civil rights struggled. You know, this
- 18:51Speaker 11: is Jim crawl. This is segregation. It was all around us.
- 18:54Speaker 11: I described it like humidity, like it's everywhere and you're
- 18:58Speaker 11: reading it in its own is touching you. That's a
- 19:01Speaker 11: segregation in jermy brow, that's oppression, you know. And so
- 19:07Speaker 11: for them to have that vision and to think forward
- 19:10Speaker 11: under that in those types of circumstances is really an
- 19:14Speaker 11: example to us to be able to say, you know what,
- 19:17Speaker 11: we can tackle these challenges too.
- 19:20Speaker 13: And it was not that many hospitals we could go to.
- 19:23Speaker 9: The said we didn't, we we had.
- 19:26Speaker 11: We struggled, and we had to raise our own money
- 19:28Speaker 11: for the hospitals that we had. We couldn't use tax revenue.
- 19:31Speaker 11: That's ridiculous. That was the world we lived in. Joseph
- 19:35Speaker 11: Cullen in those early doctors, they said, we can do better,
- 19:38Speaker 11: and we're standing in front of the fruit of their labor.
- 19:42Speaker 13: Was this hospital going to be open for.
- 19:44Speaker 11: Everybody in this community as absolutely regardless of grace, greed, color.
- 19:50Speaker 11: This hospital is for all Utilians.
- 19:54Speaker 1: The location of Riverside Hospital is thirty two oh four
- 19:57Speaker 1: US and Houston Public Health will be based there, offering
- 20:01Speaker 1: everything that Harris County Health offers. Your immigration status will
- 20:06Speaker 1: not be an issue and you just have to show
- 20:08Speaker 1: a form of ID. Go to Harriscountyhealth dot org for
- 20:13Speaker 1: more info. The President of the United States and the
- 20:17Speaker 1: head of the criminal and corrupt Republican Party gave a
- 20:22Speaker 1: high energy and then low energy State of the Union
- 20:26Speaker 1: address to the Congress, which lasted longer than any other
- 20:30Speaker 1: State of the Union address in history. It was a
- 20:33Speaker 1: textbook display of a high dosage of adderall both the
- 20:38Speaker 1: uptake with the shouting and characteristic involuntary jaw movements, and
- 20:43Speaker 1: the crash later in the speech with low energy delivery
- 20:47Speaker 1: and slurred words and dementia on full display. We first
- 20:51Speaker 1: talked to Harris County Republican strategist vlad Deviduk about his
- 20:56Speaker 1: rosy view of the speech.
- 20:58Speaker 10: Oh man, what an incredible well week it's been as
- 21:02Speaker 10: early voting is wrapping up here in Harris County. And
- 21:05Speaker 10: then we got the President Trump's first State of the
- 21:08Speaker 10: Union of his second term last night. It was a barnstorm, barnburner,
- 21:12Speaker 10: you know, it was amazing.
- 21:15Speaker 5: Yeah, talk about that requick, but you wanted to ask
- 21:18Speaker 5: you about the about not Cruise but Paxston and West
- 21:25Speaker 5: in that race.
- 21:26Speaker 2: But talk about the.
- 21:29Speaker 6: State of the Union speech.
- 21:31Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 21:31Speaker 2: I think.
- 21:31Speaker 10: I think last night President Trump had an incredible opportunity
- 21:37Speaker 10: to kind of reframe his record, which has been largely
- 21:43Speaker 10: distorted by the media in terms of what he's actually
- 21:49Speaker 10: accomplished during this first period of the second term. And
- 21:53Speaker 10: I think what we're seeing broadly in broad strokes is
- 21:57Speaker 10: that the trend for the country is on an entirely
- 22:01Speaker 10: different trajectory now than it was the previous four years
- 22:04Speaker 10: under Biden, and it's much more positive. Sure, there's some
- 22:07Speaker 10: bumps in the road, there's some difficult challenges still to overcome.
- 22:11Speaker 10: We have a long way to go, but we're moving
- 22:13Speaker 10: in the right direction and the world is a better place.
- 22:15Speaker 10: In America is a better place, And I think there
- 22:18Speaker 10: was a stark contrast last night between Republicans and the
- 22:21Speaker 10: President in terms of what's being accomplished and the opposition
- 22:25Speaker 10: shown by Democrats. I think one of the most arresting
- 22:30Speaker 10: and visual things that we saw last night, and probably
- 22:33Speaker 10: saying that's going to go down in history in terms
- 22:36Speaker 10: of just really striking a very visceral tone with most Americans,
- 22:45Speaker 10: is going to be that moment where President Trump invited
- 22:49Speaker 10: everyone who agreed that the role of the American government
- 22:55Speaker 10: is to defend and stand with American citizens, not illegal aliens,
- 23:01Speaker 10: and invited members of Congress to stand if they agreed
- 23:04Speaker 10: with that statement, and we saw every single Democrat continue
- 23:06Speaker 10: to remain seated. And I think that that's going to
- 23:09Speaker 10: be a very striking image that's going to that's more
- 23:14Speaker 10: likely not going to be burned into our vision during
- 23:18Speaker 10: the upcoming election in November. I think that that's something
- 23:23Speaker 10: that was an obvious trap for Democrats and they fell
- 23:28Speaker 10: right into it. And it's striking that the President telegraphed
- 23:33Speaker 10: it so clearly what he was doing, and he offered
- 23:37Speaker 10: them such a such an easy, simple choice to either
- 23:40Speaker 10: stand with American citizens, the people who they represent, the
- 23:43Speaker 10: people who vote for them in office, the people whose
- 23:45Speaker 10: tax money they take, the people who they ostensibly claimed
- 23:51Speaker 10: to speak for in Washington, or to stand for illegal immigrants,
- 23:55Speaker 10: and they chose to remain seated, and they stand on
- 24:00Speaker 10: the side of I legal immigrants. And it created a
- 24:02Speaker 10: very sharp and strong contrast that I think is going
- 24:06Speaker 10: to be saying that a lot of Americans are going
- 24:08Speaker 10: to be thinking about now all the way through November.
- 24:10Speaker 5: So you think it was a striking blow coming on
- 24:15Speaker 5: getting into these these primaries coming up.
- 24:17Speaker 6: Are the primaries might just go into the fall elections?
- 24:21Speaker 10: I think for the most part, I mean we've gotten
- 24:24Speaker 10: through most of early voting, and I think most people's
- 24:29Speaker 10: opinions and choices are baked in with regard to primaries.
- 24:33Speaker 10: I think the primaries could certainly still have some surprises,
- 24:37Speaker 10: but I think really by and large, what the President
- 24:40Speaker 10: was doing is playing for November. I think he's I
- 24:43Speaker 10: think he's trying to position Republicans for a stronger showing
- 24:49Speaker 10: in November, because typically what historically has happened is the
- 24:53Speaker 10: party in power loses seats in the November midterm elections
- 24:58Speaker 10: following the general election of the previous cycle. And I
- 25:03Speaker 10: know President Trump is very much aware of that. Republicans
- 25:06Speaker 10: in Congress are very much aware of that, and uh,
- 25:10Speaker 10: this was an opportunity to draw a very clear line
- 25:14Speaker 10: in the sand that really casts the decision faced by
- 25:21Speaker 10: Americans in very stark terms. Do you want a representative
- 25:25Speaker 10: in Congress or in the Senate who stands with American
- 25:28Speaker 10: citizens or are you going to vote for someone who's
- 25:31Speaker 10: going to remain seated on the side of legal immigrants?
- 25:36Speaker 10: And so it painted a very stark picture. I think
- 25:38Speaker 10: it sends a very strong message.
- 25:41Speaker 5: Well that that whole aspect we can we can we
- 25:43Speaker 5: can debate the whole Uh were illegal immigrants.
- 25:47Speaker 6: In a lot of ways. But I wanted to talk
- 25:49Speaker 6: to you about the race this guy really heeded.
- 25:55Speaker 5: For Congress for the Senate with Patson, Corn and and West.
- 26:03Speaker 6: Sorry about that, and that's got that's.
- 26:06Speaker 5: Gotten really really heeded all of a sudden between all three,
- 26:13Speaker 5: How do you think that's gonna come out? And and
- 26:18Speaker 5: I know West has been uh they've been pointing out
- 26:22Speaker 5: that West is not voted like the least amount of
- 26:27Speaker 5: times since he's been in Congress.
- 26:30Speaker 13: I don't know, I don't know if.
- 26:31Speaker 5: That's your really addressed that or not. But how do
- 26:36Speaker 5: you see that's going on?
- 26:39Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say that what seems to be more
- 26:44Speaker 10: of a consensus and broadly shared by a lot of
- 26:48Speaker 10: people that I've spoken with, is that this race is
- 26:54Speaker 10: probably going to come down to a runoff between Ken
- 26:57Speaker 10: Paxton and John Cornyn. H. I don't see that Hunt
- 27:03Speaker 10: has really earned as much support as he is hoping
- 27:08Speaker 10: to have earned. And it seems pretty clear that based
- 27:14Speaker 10: on conversations I've had with people on the ground, people
- 27:18Speaker 10: in the field, people who are working campaigns, people who
- 27:21Speaker 10: have worked campaigns before, people who have worked with Wesley
- 27:23Speaker 10: Hunt before, is that this was an opportunity for him
- 27:27Speaker 10: to really get his name broadly known across the state
- 27:32Speaker 10: for a future run at this office. But he's not
- 27:38Speaker 10: quite ready to carry that mantle at this time. The
- 27:45Speaker 10: role of the United States Senator is a serious and
- 27:52Speaker 10: consequential role, and we definitely need someone in representing Texas
- 27:59Speaker 10: in the United States Center who's ready to bear that
- 28:01Speaker 10: burden and to carry that torch for the American people.
- 28:06Speaker 10: And it seems pretty clear that that what someone like
- 28:10Speaker 10: Wesley Hunt has a desire, has an interest, has uh
- 28:17Speaker 10: a ah, a purpose in in trying to raise his profile,
- 28:25Speaker 10: but it's pretty clear that he's not entirely UH suited
- 28:29Speaker 10: or equipped at this time to really do that. So
- 28:36Speaker 10: I think I think, I think, I think more likely
- 28:38Speaker 10: not what we're going to see is we're going to
- 28:40Speaker 10: see a runoff between Paxton and Cornyn. I think Wesley
- 28:46Speaker 10: Hunt will will have a strong showing, which will will
- 28:50Speaker 10: set him up for a potential future run for this
- 28:53Speaker 10: office or another state wide office very near in the future.
- 28:58Speaker 5: And Chip chip Roy is running for UH state Attorney General.
- 29:02Speaker 5: That's that's going to be an interesting race too, because
- 29:04Speaker 5: now people are saying he's not he's not he's not
- 29:10Speaker 5: he's not MAGA, he's not strong enough as far as
- 29:13Speaker 5: supporting President Trump.
- 29:15Speaker 4: UH.
- 29:15Speaker 6: That's that commercials has been put out.
- 29:18Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think we're seeing that across the state.
- 29:22Speaker 10: I think certainly maybe in some of the more blue
- 29:26Speaker 10: areas of the of Texas. Certainly, you know in Harris
- 29:29Speaker 10: County and Austin and Dallas, you're you're seeing some of
- 29:33Speaker 10: those concerns. But really across UH areas of Texas that
- 29:38Speaker 10: are much more strongly aligned with Republicans and much more red,
- 29:42Speaker 10: what we're seeing is we're seeing a much more strong
- 29:46Speaker 10: support for Wesley Hunt, and I think that that's going
- 29:49Speaker 10: to translate to a win or at least a strong
- 29:55Speaker 10: finish to go to a runoff on election day. It's
- 29:58Speaker 10: it's very likely that that's what we're going to experience
- 30:03Speaker 10: because the support for Chip Roy, the endorsement by Senator Cruz,
- 30:15Speaker 10: the record that he has having served in the House
- 30:22Speaker 10: at a national level, at a national stage, and he
- 30:25Speaker 10: has earned a reputation for being a strong fighter, is
- 30:29Speaker 10: really going to translate well. And I think it's likely
- 30:32Speaker 10: we're going to have a run between him and Middleton,
- 30:36Speaker 10: and that's probably going to be the result on the
- 30:41Speaker 10: end of the night on primary night.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Michael O. Adams is the director of the Master of
- 30:46Speaker 1: Public Affairs graduate program at Texas Southern University's Barbara Jordan
- 30:50Speaker 1: Mickey Leland School of Public Affairs. He looked at the
- 30:53Speaker 1: speech analytically.
- 30:55Speaker 7: Yeah, well, first of all, in terms of well, last
- 30:58Speaker 7: year the President addressed the Congress, but this was this
- 31:00Speaker 7: official first State of the Union address after the twenty
- 31:06Speaker 7: twenty four election. I think it was filled with some theatrics,
- 31:12Speaker 7: but less than what we saw the address to the
- 31:16Speaker 7: Joint Session of Congress on last year. And I'll get
- 31:18Speaker 7: into more specifics because we saw Congressman Al Green last
- 31:24Speaker 7: year and there were some other things.
- 31:26Speaker 13: But let's deal with the intent of the speech.
- 31:30Speaker 7: As always, by law and Congressional statute and also the
- 31:34Speaker 7: US Constitution, the President of the United States is to
- 31:38Speaker 7: inform the American public and the Congress in terms of
- 31:42Speaker 7: the state of the Union, and historically and normally what
- 31:46Speaker 7: we see in these types of addresses, the President will
- 31:49Speaker 7: lay out an agenda, and he was always try to
- 31:54Speaker 7: take credit or highlight some of his achievements over the
- 31:58Speaker 7: past year, and I think that was true the form.
- 32:03Speaker 7: And I'll say this about President Trump when you when
- 32:06Speaker 7: you when he gives the speech, you can not necessarily
- 32:12Speaker 7: be surprised because the question is always will he stay
- 32:15Speaker 7: on script, because he has a particular speaking style that
- 32:20Speaker 7: will allow him to throw in antidotes and whatever. We
- 32:24Speaker 7: did see some of that last night, but I think
- 32:26Speaker 7: it was kind of different and surprising or not he
- 32:31Speaker 7: stayed on.
- 32:32Speaker 13: The script because I think this particular address was designed
- 32:37Speaker 13: to address.
- 32:38Speaker 7: His current status in terms of his polling ratings and
- 32:43Speaker 7: where he is, and most people understand that he's underwater
- 32:47Speaker 7: in terms of the way he's performing. And we saw
- 32:50Speaker 7: just last week the US Supreme Court rejet his Paris
- 32:56Speaker 7: where they issued a ruling and said it was up
- 32:59Speaker 7: to the congres to Levy's taveris and what have you
- 33:02Speaker 7: and President Trumps that can really I don't want to
- 33:05Speaker 7: say mean things, but some pleasant things about the US
- 33:09Speaker 7: Supreme Court, and my reflection on that has been a
- 33:13Speaker 7: political scientist and someone who has taught American government and
- 33:16Speaker 7: technic government for many years. Ah I said, wow, President
- 33:19Speaker 7: Trump should have taken my general air class. We have
- 33:23Speaker 7: to understand that there's a separation of power and as
- 33:26Speaker 7: the chief executive, you can propose policies, but you have
- 33:29Speaker 7: to get Congress to adopt it. And we know that
- 33:32Speaker 7: we've been told over the years we have this neutral
- 33:35Speaker 7: branch of government. Suppose third party now neutrality you can
- 33:40Speaker 7: we can debate that that we call the US Supreme
- 33:43Speaker 7: Court that's taught of serves as an as an umpire,
- 33:46Speaker 7: all right, in terms of looking at policies to see
- 33:49Speaker 7: whether or not they square with the constitution of federal statute,
- 33:52Speaker 7: to see whether they square with the constitution, and then
- 33:54Speaker 7: they will run their ruling where it's constitutional on constitution
- 34:00Speaker 7: and you never know, you'll have to go back and
- 34:02Speaker 7: you'll have things that will be justicially addressed in front
- 34:08Speaker 7: of the US Supreme Court. And to hear him say that,
- 34:11Speaker 7: and also the last out some of the justices that
- 34:14Speaker 7: he had a pointed himself, and so that was one thing.
- 34:18Speaker 13: But he was kind.
- 34:19Speaker 7: I think he shook their hands, those justices who showed up.
- 34:23Speaker 7: We saw the Chief Justice and we saw I believe
- 34:26Speaker 7: Justice Robertson, and I can't think of every lady's names.
- 34:29Speaker 7: There were actually two of Trump's most recent appointees. But
- 34:34Speaker 7: in terms of that situation, we know that members of
- 34:38Speaker 7: the US President of the president who will always try.
- 34:41Speaker 13: To appoint members to the high Court, namely the.
- 34:45Speaker 7: US Supreme Court and federal judges that reflect their judicial temperament.
- 34:50Speaker 7: And knowing Trump as we know President Trump, is that
- 34:54Speaker 7: he expects these people to agree with him, like his
- 34:56Speaker 7: members of its cabinet, which is a kind of forum,
- 35:01Speaker 7: and you say things to make him make the president
- 35:04Speaker 7: feel good. But members of the Supreme Court has a
- 35:07Speaker 7: history in terms of some type of independence or in
- 35:10Speaker 7: where they look at and try to interpret the laws.
- 35:13Speaker 7: Because these people, many of them are supposed to be scholars,
- 35:17Speaker 7: and some of them have served as federal judges. And
- 35:21Speaker 7: I'll take the audience back to a history lesson that I.
- 35:25Speaker 13: Always point out. Dwight D.
- 35:27Speaker 7: Eisenhower was a Republican, He was a conservative.
- 35:32Speaker 13: He was President of the United States, and.
- 35:33Speaker 7: He often remarked about the US Supreme Court and that
- 35:36Speaker 7: one of the worst days work that he had ever
- 35:39Speaker 7: done is when he appointed Chief Justice Earl Warrant to
- 35:43Speaker 7: the US Supreme Court. And you remember that that was
- 35:45Speaker 7: the beginning of decades of a liberal US Supreme Court.
- 35:50Speaker 13: They gave us the Brown Versus Board of.
- 35:52Speaker 7: Education, all of the decisions dealing with the rights of
- 35:57Speaker 7: criminals in terms of the right to do process and
- 36:00Speaker 7: these kinds of things.
- 36:02Speaker 6: Uh Andrando Miranda.
- 36:04Speaker 13: The mirandam warning.
- 36:05Speaker 7: So that that was ear one was appointed by a
- 36:09Speaker 7: Republican president.
- 36:10Speaker 13: So you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, they will say these things, but.
- 36:15Speaker 7: To to say that in public, and you know, again,
- 36:18Speaker 7: there are three branches of government, and so they're they're
- 36:20Speaker 7: they're supposed to work together, so you have to be
- 36:24Speaker 7: uh kind of diplomatic.
- 36:26Speaker 13: And uh uh and and and try to work with
- 36:29Speaker 13: each other. But I think it was gonna strip he had.
- 36:31Speaker 7: To see the U the essence of what Trump had
- 36:34Speaker 7: to do, and he may have achieved this. Uh, he
- 36:37Speaker 7: had to address this date. And we noticed the state
- 36:41Speaker 7: is a magabase because we're in the midst and elections
- 36:44Speaker 7: and if we look at the political landscape and even
- 36:46Speaker 7: here in Texas, Uh, there there could be some varied
- 36:51Speaker 7: type races on.
- 36:52Speaker 13: On both sides of the owl.
- 36:54Speaker 7: As we moved into we're in the midst.
- 36:56Speaker 13: Of early votings.
- 36:57Speaker 7: We segued to a primary voting on next Tuesday, and
- 37:03Speaker 7: on the Republican side at the top of the tickets
- 37:05Speaker 7: and one of the most important elections in terms of.
- 37:08Speaker 13: What the state of the Union. The purpose of that.
- 37:11Speaker 7: Trump had to help people and has to help his
- 37:14Speaker 7: party if he wants to maintain control of the House
- 37:17Speaker 7: of Representatives.
- 37:18Speaker 2: Uh.
- 37:18Speaker 13: And we had mid decade redistrict.
- 37:21Speaker 7: And you can come back and you can raise a
- 37:23Speaker 7: question about that, but you have to help yet Republicans
- 37:26Speaker 7: elected if you want to maintain control of the House.
- 37:29Speaker 7: And looking at some of these tight races and places
- 37:31Speaker 7: like Texas, another even at the US Senate. UH, that's
- 37:35Speaker 7: the possibility that you know, the Republicans could even lose
- 37:38Speaker 7: the House of Representatives. Now, having said all that is
- 37:42Speaker 7: that the party that is normally the out party in
- 37:46Speaker 7: terms of the party that is not the party affiliated
- 37:48Speaker 7: with the President of the United States always have a
- 37:50Speaker 7: hard time in midterm election. You can go back to
- 37:53Speaker 7: George Bush.
- 37:55Speaker 13: Barack Obama.
- 37:56Speaker 7: Normally they will lose the House or whatever they can,
- 37:59Speaker 7: you know, in a determined likening.
- 38:01Speaker 13: But clearly we have President Trump.
- 38:04Speaker 7: And back to the speech. It was a feel good speech.
- 38:08Speaker 7: He highlighted the things that he had done. And we
- 38:11Speaker 7: saw the Democrat response by Governor Spanger of Virginia and
- 38:18Speaker 7: she framed that as lies and other things. And back
- 38:22Speaker 7: to the historonics that we saw last night, there were
- 38:25Speaker 7: two that come to mind to me. One was Al
- 38:27Speaker 7: Green when he was ushered out. He had a sign
- 38:30Speaker 7: that saying that black people are not eight and certainly
- 38:33Speaker 7: he was summarily escorted. And then you saw the kind
- 38:36Speaker 7: of exchange back and forth, the kind of vitriolic exchange
- 38:40Speaker 7: behind ilhan Omar and Trump talked about immigration, and that
- 38:45Speaker 7: was a segue in terms of what he's doing with
- 38:47Speaker 7: the border, and that may have resonated with his base
- 38:51Speaker 7: in terms if you look at all of the things
- 38:53Speaker 7: in terms of a checklist. Certainly, I think immigration has
- 38:59Speaker 7: been out there. The Parist people are going like that,
- 39:01Speaker 7: and also the economy.
- 39:03Speaker 6: Uh.
- 39:04Speaker 7: In what we've seen in some early voting Democratics are
- 39:08Speaker 7: they seemed to be somewhat excited.
- 39:10Speaker 13: I know we're in Texas that.
- 39:12Speaker 7: Looking at the numbers in terms of early voting that
- 39:15Speaker 7: Democrats can't wait.
- 39:16Speaker 13: Some people are saying that to cast a voting in
- 39:19Speaker 13: this election.
- 39:20Speaker 7: But in the analyst, as an academic, I would be
- 39:25Speaker 7: able to access that or to say that that's that's
- 39:28Speaker 7: accurate in the sense because there seems to be a
- 39:30Speaker 7: trend in terms of early voting. Uh, looking at previous
- 39:34Speaker 7: cycles that Democrats tend to vote early as opposed to
- 39:38Speaker 7: vote on voting on election day, and we see that
- 39:41Speaker 7: they may.
- 39:42Speaker 13: Have out perform.
- 39:43Speaker 7: In Harris County, more Democrats voted than the publicers, but
- 39:46Speaker 7: Republicans sand to be election day voted.
- 39:49Speaker 2: You know, how how long we don't go?
- 39:51Speaker 5: How long is he gonna be able to blame other people?
- 39:55Speaker 13: Yeah, well you have to look at the performers and uh.
- 39:57Speaker 7: And again I tell my students, I'm a kee man.
- 40:00Speaker 7: I just from a there's a book that I read
- 40:03Speaker 7: when I was in driving through many years ago.
- 40:04Speaker 13: It's all the symbolic uses of politics.
- 40:06Speaker 7: And certainly politicians will wrap themselves or drape themselves in
- 40:11Speaker 7: the class in the flag or or try to present
- 40:17Speaker 7: an image in terms of political posturing, and also the
- 40:20Speaker 7: speakers that they give. It's what I call do fuse
- 40:23Speaker 7: support my country right or wrong. You have to look
- 40:25Speaker 7: at again, as I said at the outset, is that
- 40:29Speaker 7: you have to this is a base election. It's an
- 40:32Speaker 7: off year election, but it's a base all right.
- 40:34Speaker 13: Do you rally the.
- 40:35Speaker 7: People who supported you in twenty twenty four and how
- 40:38Speaker 7: they actually conturn in terms of looking at Latinas and
- 40:41Speaker 7: how they may be moving away from that. And we
- 40:44Speaker 7: know we had mid decades redistricting, so I wasn't surprised,
- 40:49Speaker 7: and that may have been to the president's benefit. He
- 40:51Speaker 7: brought in the gold medal winning hockey team to do
- 40:55Speaker 7: that now of all the visual and say, for what
- 40:58Speaker 7: you just said about trying.
- 41:00Speaker 13: To target immigrants in these kinds of things, it's kind
- 41:03Speaker 13: of hard, even if you're a Democrat.
- 41:05Speaker 7: In the room not to stand up for hockey team,
- 41:09Speaker 7: not to say that there's somebody who has been in
- 41:11Speaker 7: the military, so the speech writers and the people who
- 41:15Speaker 7: craft the speech.
- 41:16Speaker 13: All right, certainly I think they may have been had
- 41:19Speaker 13: more control.
- 41:20Speaker 7: Last night than some of the others that Della proper
- 41:23Speaker 7: and you and I we know Dollar prompt and people
- 41:24Speaker 7: know President Trump that he.
- 41:26Speaker 13: Can go off on you if you want to, right,
- 41:29Speaker 13: I think they be.
- 41:30Speaker 7: But I think he kind of stayed within the guardrails
- 41:33Speaker 7: if you if you take it and you frame it
- 41:36Speaker 7: as that. So that's to be expected. And always you
- 41:40Speaker 7: will see, whether it's Democrat or Republican, they'll have people
- 41:42Speaker 7: in the audience that they can part out and they're
- 41:44Speaker 7: trying to get the message across that tithes in or
- 41:47Speaker 7: dovetails with the policy positions that they will have.
- 41:51Speaker 1: That was doctor Michael Adams, director of the Master of
- 41:53Speaker 1: Public Affairs graduate program at Texas Southern University. There's a
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- 43:09Speaker 5: The situation now in Mexico and what brought about the
- 43:15Speaker 5: arrests of the cartel leader.
- 43:18Speaker 6: In Memo just today.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Well, I think that the key issue is actually what
- 43:26Speaker 2: happened on Sunday, which was not the arrest, but the
- 43:28Speaker 2: killing of Elemento in a government strike by the Mexican
- 43:33Speaker 2: government based on intelligence that the US government provided on
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- 43:41Speaker 2: Cartel Dejlisco Nadacian or the CJNG New Generation Jalisco Cartel,
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- 44:00Speaker 2: It was definitely considered the top dog in the Mexican underworld.
- 44:06Speaker 2: So the killing of Elemento is a significant event in
- 44:12Speaker 2: terms of the security landscape in Mexico. We saw the
- 44:15Speaker 2: CJNG retaliate with article.
- 44:18Speaker 14: Grocoes or burning vehicles at critical choke points in cities
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- 44:33Speaker 5: What I think is it because we got the we
- 44:35Speaker 5: got the Kopa mndal the World Cup coming. American and
- 44:39Speaker 5: Canadian tourists are down there now. Some I'm stuck stud
- 44:43Speaker 5: down there for for a bit. How secure is the
- 44:46Speaker 5: government of Mexico and the safety of people going down.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Well, I think that one any foreign tourists United States
- 44:58Speaker 2: or Canada should follow all of their government's warnings and
- 45:02Speaker 2: recommendations and security precautions. It should be noted that the
- 45:06Speaker 2: US State Department treats Mexico on a state by state
- 45:10Speaker 2: basis for security, travel warnings, and travel advisories, and that's
- 45:17Speaker 2: a very good source people should follow that. I expect
- 45:22Speaker 2: that the Mexican government is going to do a saturation strategy,
- 45:25Speaker 2: putting lots of National Guard resources. National Guard it's kind
- 45:30Speaker 2: of a gendarmerie. It's a law enforcement entity, but it's
- 45:32Speaker 2: really it's lines through the military, line of commander through
- 45:35Speaker 2: the military, and it recruits a lot of former soldiers.
- 45:39Speaker 2: So what I think is going to happen is you're
- 45:42Speaker 2: going to see a saturation strategy in those areas where
- 45:47Speaker 2: those World Cup games are going to be played. And
- 45:50Speaker 2: this is particularly important because a lot of those games
- 45:52Speaker 2: we're in Guadalajada, which is the major city in the
- 45:55Speaker 2: state of Hardsco, and that is where the Change has
- 46:01Speaker 2: its base of operations and it's most consolidated operations. That
- 46:04Speaker 2: is their home term. So I'm going to expect a
- 46:06Speaker 2: pretty heavy duty the saturation strategy by the Mexican government
- 46:10Speaker 2: that's going to have the implications nationwide because that means
- 46:13Speaker 2: that they're likely to be pulling resources from other areas
- 46:16Speaker 2: and other organized crime battles.
- 46:19Speaker 5: This is something that we if I'm not mistaken, we
- 46:22Speaker 5: had the same thing happened before, where the Mexican government
- 46:26Speaker 5: had put all their resources in the fight and the
- 46:27Speaker 5: cartels on the on the half be half of the
- 46:30Speaker 5: United States trying to stop so called drugs coming across
- 46:33Speaker 5: the border, and it ended up being a blood bath.
- 46:38Speaker 2: Well, well, I would say the Mexicans themselves actually came
- 46:42Speaker 2: to the United States in two thousand and six, two
- 46:44Speaker 2: thousand and seven under Felipe colleg their own They knew
- 46:46Speaker 2: they had organized crime problems on their hands, and they
- 46:50Speaker 2: knew that, so they actually came. That was the media initiative,
- 46:55Speaker 2: and they acknowledge that. But yet the kingpin strategy has
- 46:58Speaker 2: resulted in typically more violence. You decapitate the head of
- 47:02Speaker 2: an organization. The idea was decapitate, cut off ahead of
- 47:05Speaker 2: the snake, the body will die. What often has happened
- 47:08Speaker 2: is you actually get a hydra effect where more lieutenants
- 47:11Speaker 2: are buying for power, they're fighting with each other, and
- 47:14Speaker 2: that surges levels of violence.
- 47:16Speaker 5: Well, there's something that's happening because of the United States pressure.
- 47:21Speaker 2: Well, there has been significant pressure from the Trump administration.
- 47:24Speaker 2: I can't speak to any particular event. And how much
- 47:28Speaker 2: you know Trump administration or just general US pressure caused
- 47:33Speaker 2: any particular event. I don't have any of that kind
- 47:35Speaker 2: of behind the scenes knowledge. I can only speculate on that.
- 47:40Speaker 5: And what do you say, what do you say about
- 47:43Speaker 5: the cartels themselves, what other organizations are in key positions to.
- 47:48Speaker 6: Maybe take over?
- 47:51Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's an excellent question. So the first question
- 47:55Speaker 2: is whether or not this DJ and G will have
- 47:56Speaker 2: succession mechanisms in place and be able to hold the
- 48:01Speaker 2: core together. So there is rumor that already a successor
- 48:06Speaker 2: has been named. Whether or not that gets verified, you know,
- 48:10Speaker 2: time is going to tell. We're going to see that
- 48:12Speaker 2: play out over the next few days. But supposedly there
- 48:14Speaker 2: has been a successor named. He's likely to be a
- 48:18Speaker 2: member of the Valencia family, which is the old core
- 48:21Speaker 2: of the Millennial Cartel, which is kind of what the
- 48:24Speaker 2: c which was the initial core of the CJNG itself.
- 48:28Speaker 2: If they're able to hold that core together, there may
- 48:31Speaker 2: be less fragmentation. But I would actually be shocked, given
- 48:33Speaker 2: the organizational structure the CJNG, if local affiliates that had
- 48:38Speaker 2: been become part of their organization as local criminal organizations
- 48:43Speaker 2: and then had become part of the CJNG as they
- 48:45Speaker 2: made their rapid spread across the country. I would be
- 48:48Speaker 2: shocked if some of them did not splinter off. So
- 48:50Speaker 2: I would expect to see some fragmentation, and that fragmentation
- 48:53Speaker 2: inevitably leads to more violence and potential underworld realignments.
- 49:00Speaker 5: What does the think about the Mexican president is as
- 49:04Speaker 5: far as as far as her stability, Well, well, she has.
- 49:08Speaker 2: A six year term and she's pretty early into her
- 49:13Speaker 2: six year term, so in terms of stability, I wouldn't
- 49:20Speaker 2: expect that Claudia Scheinbaum is, you know, going to suddenly
- 49:24Speaker 2: not be the president of Mexico. No, no, no, that's
- 49:26Speaker 2: not the issue for Mexico. The broader issue is a
- 49:30Speaker 2: political economic one. Mexico only takes in seventeen percent of
- 49:33Speaker 2: GDP and taxation. As a result of that, they have
- 49:37Speaker 2: less money for cops, courts, a penal system, and all
- 49:40Speaker 2: of the things that you need. The always to the
- 49:42Speaker 2: average is actually thirty four percent. So Ionov they development
- 49:46Speaker 2: countries are typically taking in a higher level of taxation
- 49:49Speaker 2: and then they're able to afford all the accoutrement or
- 49:53Speaker 2: things that go along with making the rule of law
- 49:56Speaker 2: work really well, like having good cops, good courts, things
- 49:58Speaker 2: like that. As a result of that, Qualia Shinebaum is
- 50:02Speaker 2: in a very difficult situation. The physical situation in Mexico
- 50:05Speaker 2: is not the fact in terms of the government, and
- 50:12Speaker 2: uh there's also issues with endemic corruption that make it
- 50:17Speaker 2: very very difficult. But I don't see the Shinbaum administration
- 50:20Speaker 2: following in any way.
- 50:22Speaker 5: But if she lives in support of the especially the
- 50:27Speaker 5: poor and the working class, is she losing that support?
- 50:34Speaker 2: I have seen nothing to indicate that the Morena Party
- 50:38Speaker 2: has continued to be able to maintain that support. I
- 50:42Speaker 2: haven't seen anything to that effect. I'm not saying that
- 50:46Speaker 2: it couldn't happen, but I haven't seen anything to that effect.
- 50:49Speaker 5: What do you what do you see as far as
- 50:51Speaker 5: if the drugs, the drugs that come in from Mexico,
- 50:54Speaker 5: is it mostly cocaine or is it just is it
- 50:58Speaker 5: just or they into just for networks of organization, is
- 51:02Speaker 5: human trafficking or what exactly is their main bread and butter.
- 51:06Speaker 2: So to speak? Well, and that's a fantastic question, and
- 51:10Speaker 2: unfortunately we don't have those ledgers. But what we have
- 51:12Speaker 2: seen is an overall diversification of criminal activities in Mexico
- 51:16Speaker 2: over the last twenty years. So we obviously drugs are
- 51:21Speaker 2: a big one, and then you can think about them
- 51:23Speaker 2: in two big categories. You know, plant based, so you've
- 51:25Speaker 2: got your cocaine, you've got your heroin, you've got your marijuana,
- 51:29Speaker 2: but then also on the other side, you've got your meth.
- 51:32Speaker 2: And Sentinel have become increasingly important are being cut into
- 51:36Speaker 2: those other sources. The CJNG and both have seen the
- 51:41Speaker 2: Lola Cartel were pioneers in Sentinel. The CJNG also have
- 51:44Speaker 2: long time experience and INTETA means before that. So the
- 51:49Speaker 2: drugs are certainly a major source, but oil theft mafia's
- 51:55Speaker 2: they've also diversified into what's known as watch, which is
- 51:58Speaker 2: a slang term for oil theft mafias today, and they've
- 52:04Speaker 2: diversified into other things. You have been here about a
- 52:07Speaker 2: Quatchi coal ala for water, so water theft mafias where
- 52:10Speaker 2: they're stealing water from government sources, particularly in areas of
- 52:14Speaker 2: rout in times of severe trout as we saw in
- 52:16Speaker 2: northeastern Mexico in the last five years, and then selling
- 52:19Speaker 2: them in the neighborhoods that have no access to water
- 52:21Speaker 2: and it can be highly lucrative. You also see this
- 52:24Speaker 2: in and around Mexico City where there are water issues
- 52:27Speaker 2: in underserved colonias or neighborhoods. So you're seeing a broad
- 52:31Speaker 2: diversification of criminal activity. So it's much harder to say
- 52:34Speaker 2: what they make the most from because we're seeing huge
- 52:37Speaker 2: numbers in terms of WATCHI coal, whether it be through
- 52:40Speaker 2: oil just straight oil theft, or also tax evasion. There
- 52:45Speaker 2: have been some major scandals related to especially tax evasion
- 52:49Speaker 2: and avoiding oil taxes that have involved imports and the military.
- 52:56Speaker 5: We hear about them closing the border and the border
- 53:00Speaker 5: being shut down. How's that affected the cartails as far
- 53:03Speaker 5: as trafficking.
- 53:05Speaker 2: Okay, well, you know, is the border really being shut down?
- 53:12Speaker 15: You talk about fentanyl, you have an issue of well,
- 53:16Speaker 15: you have legal land based trade, and fentanyl is typically
- 53:22Speaker 15: trafficked in vehicles by individuals and they essentially piggyback.
- 53:27Speaker 2: Through legal trade. There's approaching it's about nine hundred million
- 53:32Speaker 2: dollars in bilatter trade between the United States and Mexico.
- 53:34Speaker 2: That is not something that either country can really afford
- 53:38Speaker 2: to just suddenly turn off that is legal trade and
- 53:41Speaker 2: piggybacking along that can be the illicit trafficking of drugs
- 53:45Speaker 2: and things like that. So while there have been increased
- 53:50Speaker 2: border security metric measures, the idea that the butter border
- 53:55Speaker 2: is suddenly just shut down, that's that's a misnote.
- 53:58Speaker 1: That was doctor Nathan Jonesssociate professor at sam Houston State University.
- 54:04Speaker 1: With a red card in the first half and a
- 54:06Speaker 1: second red card in the next, the Houston Dynamo played
- 54:11Speaker 1: with just nine men on the field and lost to
- 54:13Speaker 1: one of the best in Major League Soccer, the LAFC.
- 54:17Speaker 1: This was at home in the sold out Shell Energy Stadium,
- 54:21Speaker 1: where tons of South Koreans came to see the LAFC
- 54:24Speaker 1: superstar Sung Hewn Men and his LAFC teammates defeat Houston
- 54:30Speaker 1: to nothing. Rookie defender Augustine Reich also made his MLS debut,
- 54:35Speaker 1: while club legend Hector Herrera made his twenty twenty six
- 54:40Speaker 1: debut after signing with the Dynamo in the off season.
- 54:44Speaker 1: Manager Ben Olsen commented on the match read card.
- 54:48Speaker 16: We played very well. It was very disciplined. We asked
- 54:53Speaker 16: the guys to do some things that maybe were out
- 54:55Speaker 16: of you know, their comfort zone and making sure we
- 55:01Speaker 16: protect space and absorb and transition, which again isn't really
- 55:08Speaker 16: in our nature, but against a team like LAFC, you
- 55:14Speaker 16: can see how quickly they expose you. And space is
- 55:18Speaker 16: is their friend and your enemy when you play now.
- 55:21Speaker 16: So I thought it was disciplined. I thought we frustrated
- 55:25Speaker 16: them and we created a few really good chances in
- 55:29Speaker 16: the first half. So and then the red car changes everything.
- 55:33Speaker 6: And yeah, here's what I'll say.
- 55:36Speaker 17: About the red car. It was to me, it's the
- 55:39Speaker 17: wrong call and it changes the game unfortunately, and he
- 55:45Speaker 17: reaches for the yellow and then he decides that it's
- 55:48Speaker 17: a red I've.
- 55:49Speaker 13: Looked at it.
- 55:51Speaker 6: Several times, and.
- 55:54Speaker 17: It's to me, it's just the wrong call. It's the
- 55:57Speaker 17: wrong call and the wrong moment, and it changes the tire.
- 56:01Speaker 16: The entire match and setsima And then we're playing against
- 56:05Speaker 16: one of the best teams down the man. And I
- 56:08Speaker 16: thought the effort overall was incredible, incredible from our guys
- 56:13Speaker 16: looked after each other.
- 56:15Speaker 17: No, uh, there wasn't a lot of frustration. I thought,
- 56:21Speaker 17: we haven't spent a lot of.
- 56:22Speaker 16: Time in kind of a five to three one who
- 56:25Speaker 16: they again, they did it really well. And what pisses
- 56:30Speaker 16: me off is we gave up two set pieces and
- 56:33Speaker 16: that's the controlled phase, that's the controlled stin uh. And
- 56:38Speaker 16: in those moments we let ourselves.
- 56:40Speaker 17: Down because I think there was something out there, there
- 56:43Speaker 17: was maybe a point out there in this game.
- 56:45Speaker 16: But again, letting ourselves down on the set pieces.
- 56:48Speaker 11: I don't care how many guys you're down.
- 56:52Speaker 10: You can still deal with that.
- 56:53Speaker 1: Houston plays The New England Revolution next week, before returning
- 56:57Speaker 1: home on the fourteenth to play the Portland TI. The
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