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MotoGP Valencia 2025 Round 22 Recap in S5 Ep 41 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  It's the last round, guys, off the Moto GP 2025 season, the
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  season you know, back. Nice words, Per Lewis keeps
• 0:12
  reminding us throughout the whole season.
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  So he finished fifth overall. He didn't come there for that.
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  Does he get a pass this round? Is, is Bizecki the closest rider
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  in the VR46 Academy to Rossi? Alex Marquez, you know, where
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  would you rank his overall performance?
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  If there was an award to be given for what Pedro did this
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  season on the KTM, what would you call that award?
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  We have to talk about, you know, Frankie, is this the icing on
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  the cake for this guy to not be Moto GP 2027?
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  I love the guy, I love the guy, but is this the icing on the
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  cake? I can't see what he did.
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  So is it fair? Was it a fear penalty to you
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  guys or unfair penalty for what Jack Miller got because it
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  looked like his rear tired nudge ferminal the gears arm?
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  You're listening to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45 Moto GP. As 2025 has come to an end, we
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  have a lot to cover about 2025, how it ended, all that fun
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  stuff, all the craziness. Who gets the pass?
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  Who should keep a contract for 2027 because they're all signed
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  for 26. Before we get into all that, let
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  me just bring in the guys tonight.
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  TJ Mann, welcome to the show. How are you doing tonight?
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  It's still cold up here, getting colder, but I'm I'm doing great.
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  It was a a fun, fun season, I must say.
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  I mean, there's a lot of controversy, ups and downs.
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  I mean, overall, this is a good 2025 season.
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  Can't wait for the 2026. But do you want me to tell you
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  about the Patriots? We're still winning.
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  Well, you know, I was going to say you, I have to talk about it
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  because the fact that I'm talking about it, they're still
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  winning, you know what I'm saying?
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  I, you know, I'm. Not waiting for them to fall off
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  but they just making the rest of the league look like why?
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  Why are they getting paid? And now everyone's saying we
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  have an easy schedule, but you know, you still got to go out
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  there before, but you know, you just hold your breath until the
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  playoffs basically, because that's what things really
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  matter. Right.
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  They they, they didn't say we had a hard schedule.
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  You notice? I'm saying we now when, when,
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  when they were losing last year, they didn't say it was a hot
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  schedule. Yeah.
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  I know, right? So you know it is what it is.
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  Lewis man, welcome to the show. How you doing?
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  You're back on the mainland so all must be well.
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  Are you still looking for your cappuccino espresso?
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  I to be honest with you, man, I do not drink, I do not drink
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  coffee, I don't drink a cappuccino, I don't drink
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  espresso, any of that, which makes traveling overseas even
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  harder because you just got to go on pure energy there's.
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  No. There's no artificial boost from
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  the the caffeine when I go there, but it was a good trip
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  and I saw some really cool stuff, talked to some
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  interesting people. So it was overall very positive.
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  But I'm I'm glad to be back on this side and in the right time
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  zone again. Yeah, like we like having you
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  back as you get to come on the show and, and, and and lend your
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  thoughts on A lot has been happening.
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  It's the last round, guys off the Moto GP 2025 season.
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  And, you know, I'm going to try to do it a little bit different.
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  We'll start with this. We'll start with, you know, in
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  your own words. Each of you will start with TJ.
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  Give a recap of the weekend before we dive into the whole
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  season and stuff like that. That's the question.
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  Just give a recap on what you recap on what you thought of the
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  weekend and you know the the floor is yours.
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  We'll start with TJ. I mean, let's see, like, how can
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  I say it? I mean it's the grand finale.
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  I mean, you know, we start with all the young, young guns, you
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  know, the the mini Moto and and and stuff like that.
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  So it's, it's, it's the grand finale.
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  It's kind of like the race you want to end on, you know, it's
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  kind of bittersweet. Just have it end the season.
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  But like, like I said, it's like, you know, you have the
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  kids there, like all, all the, the, the, the, the levels.
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  So I would say it's just the grand finale.
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  It's a good weekend all. Right.
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  That's what's up. That's what's up Lewis man, you
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  know the floor is yours and make it short and sweet like like TJ,
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  but you might not. What are your thoughts for the
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  weekend? Any of your words?
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  I mean Spain is always a good place to finish off the season.
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  I mean they've been doing it now they're pretty much with the 1
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  little hiccup the COVID year. I think they've finished.
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  Spain is the the capper of the season almost every year for the
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  last like 20 something years. It's always a great turn out.
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  It's always a great crowd. I enjoyed every single race, the
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  practices. I mean, you kind of get that
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  little bit of an extra enjoyment out of it knowing that now we're
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  going to go into like the winter months and we're not going to
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  see motorcycle racing for three or four months.
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  So it's it's a bittersweet ending to the season, but it was
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  a good, good event, man. The turn out was amazing.
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  Like it's been in a lot of other events.
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  The racing was fun, like it was tight.
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  It was good. There was a lot of things that
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  happened, so even though like some of the bigger names maybe
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  weren't racing Marquez and so forth, it's still a great
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  weekend, man. You know, I was surprised at the
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  turn out the attendance. I mean it was packed, but it
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  sounded like it was in a hundred 100,000, not like the 250 close
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  to 300 of these other tracks, is it?
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  I mean, does does that area of Spain need to, you know,
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  commandeer some more land? No, I don't know if it's, I
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  don't know if it's so much the, I mean, the one thing with that
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  track is that track is kind of built like a stadium because the
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  tracks in the middle and there's grandstands around it.
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  Whereas other tracks kind of like the infield will go out to
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  an outfield and come back to the infield.
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  It's all like in a stadium there.
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  So it's a very unique layout for a, for a race track.
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  Cause anywhere you sit, you can kind of see the entire track.
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  It's it's so it is a little bit smaller a venue, but it's also,
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  you know, it's the end of the year.
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  I think it makes it special to have that like arena type feel.
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  Right, Yeah, No, I I agree with the with the grandstand.
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  It does. I I saw that over the weekend as
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  when they were pan in the crowd and stuff like that.
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  And and I didn't know the complete layout as as you
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  explained it, but I thought I was like, oh wow, there's a
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  whole row of stands in that one section where at other tracks
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  you don't see that. And I'll say this, I mean it is
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  and you know, I don't know about TJ.
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  It is one of my favorite tracks on ride game and it's one of the
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  few tracks like I know all the turns.
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  It's like like you know, Mojelo and these other places.
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  I know some of the turns and stuff like that.
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  But it's one of the few tracks because it's a smaller track,
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  one of the reasons I believe. But it's also a fun track to go
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  around on and it is tight. So I can see why Yamaha was
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  quick at at that track. What are your thoughts on on on
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  the layout of the track and and TJ, do you agree with, you know,
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  is that one of your favorite tracks as well now?
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  So like it on a Moto GP game? I mean, yeah, I consider it's
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  one of my a favorite track of mine.
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  You know, everyone likes Majello and all those faster tracks
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  where you can really get on the gas, but it's more technical
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  track, small layout, and I think it's pretty smooth that I like
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  Valencia. You know, it's just like you
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  said, the stands is really nice where wherever you sit, like
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  when they pan it out, you can see different turns from afar
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  and don't have to be like, you know, for instance, let's say
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  Coda where it's like you don't hear the bikes for a couple
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  minutes because they're so far away.
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  And you know, I just, I just think the layout's pretty,
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  pretty neat. It's pretty unique and it's cool
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  try because it takes what, a minute and a half roughly to get
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  around. And so you see the the
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  entertainment, you know, pass by like, you know, fastest.
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  Yeah, it's the NJMP of the. I, I, I agree it is, it is
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  definitely that, that kind of track.
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  So you know, it's it's it's I don't even I'm I'm going to be
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  jumping all over the place probably a little bit tonight
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  because but we'll talk about the race first, the Sprint race, the
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  qualifying, you know, I guess let's let's let's talk about bag
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  night before Reese get on. So that way we can say we're
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  we're already done, you know, the beginning of the season, you
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  know, Bagnay's words, per Lewis keeps reminding us throughout
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  the whole season. So he finished fifth overall.
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  He didn't come there for that. Does he get a pass this round?
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  Running out of gas can't be his fault, right?
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  Getting punted off the the track can't be his fault out of out of
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  22 rounds this round does the man get a pass and just you
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  know, he was he standing too close to Oliveira?
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  What are your thoughts, TJ? He don't get a pass.
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  You know what this is, this is the cherry on top, you know, So
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  for all the problems that he had, like it's just sucks the
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  way it ended. Like it's just it just makes
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  sense. It's just he had a terrible
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  year. And this is just the cherry on
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  top. You can't mess around in the
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  back if you're a faster writer, you know, like, obviously you
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  can't control what Zarko did either, you know, But you know,
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  it's just a cherry on top. I, I, I don't, I don't think he
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  gets a pass. It's just he ran out.
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  In Q in Q2, he ran out of gas in Q2, So he was on A possibly
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  going to make it to, I'm sorry, Q1 he was possibly going to make
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  it to Q2 but ran out of gas with three minutes.
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  So maybe his engineers was like, I don't know how the hell are we
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  going to make Peg go faster? Maybe just lighten his back up,
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  give him some less gas, like see if he can get a faster lap and
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  then he know he just probably continued and ran out of gas.
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  It just I don't know, they probably try to help him out of
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  the way. So I don't, I don't think he
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  gets passed, but it's just interesting how it laid out, you
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  know, with him running out of gas and then even in in the GP
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  race, he hit three corners and, and it's just, it's just sad.
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  I know he's glad for this season to be over.
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  Man, I, I think his fans are and I think he is, although, you
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  know, what are you going to talk about this offseason, Lewis?
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  How do you what do you thought I'm.
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  Actually sad the season is over because now it's three months
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  where I don't get to bang on him all the time.
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  For me. I mean, I'll start again next
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  year. I'm sure he'll pick up when he
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  left off. But we we we can complain about
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  him not walking his dog enough. Yeah, yeah, we can find
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  something. There's always some the the the
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  fuel thing. Anybody will tell you when
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  they're going out for qualifying.
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  They only put so much fuel for so many laps because they're
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  going to not going to fill the tank because they don't want to
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  add the extra weight and they set the bike up for the weight
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  of the bike with that type of fuel capacity.
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  Now, did they send him out and he stayed out for an extra lap
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  that he shouldn't have? Did he burn some gas on the
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  first lap that he shouldn't have?
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  You know, like there's a lot of dynamics there.
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  I mean you just have to be that half a liter short and now you
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  don't get a row 3. Minutes 3 minutes left. 3
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  minutes left. 3 minutes left is. 'Cause he did it, he he did pit.
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  I mean, if you think about it, I mean, they should have, they
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  should have put a little big ass in, but then, but then again,
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  for a tire change, a tire change is fast.
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  And remember, these guys don't pit.
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  So it's not like they have speed cams where they just pump it and
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  go. It's a different dynamic.
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  If you're a endurance racer, you've got an endurance tank.
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  If you're a regular racer, you know, you get the little funnel
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  out, you measure out exactly the amount.
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  Like it's a different dynamic than that.
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  And I don't know what the fueling procedure is or what the
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  rules are, but I think in GP to fuel your bike has to be in your
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  garage. You can't fuel outside your
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  garage. So he would have to bought the
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  bike into the garage, added fuel, turn it around, get it
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  back. Like, so again, somebody
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  somewhere screwed up and their measurement was off by like, you
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  know, maybe 20% of a liter or something.
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  And that's why he ran out of gas.
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  But for me, this is just the culmination of what might be the
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  worst season of his career to this point.
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  I mean, I don't think it can get any worse than this.
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  So this weekend was just exactly what you know what man said.
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  It was the cherry on top of a shit sandwich.
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  Like this was as bad as this was as bad as the season could get.
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  And it's like, think there's your cherry.
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  But the one thing I say, though, that has always been a knock on
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  him and will always be a knock on him.
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  I hate the fact that he goes down and he just walks away from
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  the bike. He does not.
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  I don't ever see him making an attempt to pick the bike up and
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  even get one point. And I'm sorry, but if I it could
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  be the last race of the season, you could be out of the points.
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  I still expect you to go back to that bike, pick that bike up and
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  try to finish and get that one point.
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  Right. And that, that, that.
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  Shows me he's got no dog in him. Like there's no dog in that
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  fight. Like if you bike, if you bike
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  crashes, if your bike goes down, it's a low side.
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  It's not tumbling and doing a Cirque du Soleil and the swing
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  arm doesn't come flying off. I want you to at least make an
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  attempt to run back to the bike and look to see if you can get
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  on and finish. I don't care if you finish last,
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  man. I paid for the gas, I paid for
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  the tires. I paid for you to ride that
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  bike, pick that bike up and finish.
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  Right. Well, you know, he, he got to
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  keep himself right for he wasn't going to gain any points and
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  they got testing coming up. Yeah, but he doesn't just do
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  this now, man. He's done it during the whole
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  season. We can go back and like the
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  first time he DNF, Ed, I guarantee you he didn't even try
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  to look at the bike. And you look at Marquez, he's
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  ahead in the points, my man crashes, holds it on to the
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  handlebars, tries to get the bike up and giggle.
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  And he's the one that really doesn't need to do it.
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  He's 100 points ahead of everybody else.
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  But he does it. Why?
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  Because he doesn't know any other way to ride.
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  Maybe husband dies and he look at the bike and he can see all
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  right, something's broken. You don't.
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  Even look back, he stands up and walks away before he looks at
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  the. Bike he did.
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  He did, he did look, he did look back because the marshals had
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  the bike up and he and then he, he turned, he walked away from
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  the bike. He did walk away from the bike.
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  He didn't pick the bike up though.
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  He didn't. Pick the bike up.
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  He didn't. Pick the bike up, but he.
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  Did I felt like he he could have rode through that, that Kitty,
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  but after if he was in first place or if it was the
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  championship year and he messed up like that, he would have
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  found a way to save and not just fall it.
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  I know the Kitty lit his deep, but he would have found a way to
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  stay up somehow like like Lewis said to at least get one point.
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  Like he just kind of just gave it up.
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  And I didn't really look at it that way where when he crashes,
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  kind of just says whatever. Like there's a lot of riders who
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  crash and still, still jump back in the race.
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  Jawan Meer's done it. Zarko's done it.
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  Like so many riders have just crashed in and you think they're
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  out and they finish what last throws?
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  They're going to last it. Yeah, yeah.
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  Or or even they'll jump, continue, and then they'll pit
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  later in the race because it's like.
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  You know you. Know they crashed.
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  You know, crashed and came in 13th place and got a couple
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  points. Mark Marquez, man, did he need
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  three or more points to win by 100 and something points this
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  season? No, but that's just the dog in
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  him. He's going to get up and he's
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  going to fight. A lot of riders do that, man.
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  If you're in this level, I expect you to at least like make
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  the attempt to go to the bike. Don't just walk away from the
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  bike like that. Fuck, I'm done.
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  You know what? I should have been like that and
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  done and not ask about Pekko at all 'cause you shouldn't.
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  At least, at least at least, say, here.
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  Man this would be a 2 hour conversation just on that.
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  I'm pretty I'm pretty sure he'll he'll slide something when he
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  when he comes. But here's a stat, just so you
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  know, since Marquez won the championship across all
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  platforms. Zuccotti scored two points in
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  Moto GP. Marquez has scored zero points
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  since he won the championship because he got hurt.
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  Petco has scored zero points since Marquez won the
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  championship. You know what?
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  Who scored the two points? Bulaga.
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  Oh, you mean I'm talking about? Factory Ducati Factory Ducati
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  Bulaga is the only guy to score a point in the last four races.
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  Well, yeah, that's because he then I have this written down.
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  Petco has had five DNFS. So that's that's.
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  That's not all everybody else's fault.
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  That's that's easy enough. He had five DNFS and won no
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  points. Yeah.
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  So I mean it, it is, it is unfortunate for the situation,
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  but we'll find out more. Just I won't talk about Bagnaya
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  in in 2025 season since it's over.
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  So I guess today's 2026. Agnia sucks the 26 also by the
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  way. No, let me ask this guys.
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  OK, so is is is Bizecki the closest rider in the VR46
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  Academy to Rossi? Reason why I said that besides
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  Mark Marquez, Bez is the only other rider in modern times to
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  jump on a new bike, new factory team, new team, new factory team
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  and finished third in the championship.
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  Mark did it last year with Grassini for that.
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  I, I it's been a while. I think Rossi was the first, did
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  it and won on the Yamaha way back when.
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  Is he the closest thing to to a Rossi?
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  Or in the making I should say. Yeah, and I'll possibly say in
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  the making, you know, there's still a lot of milestones to be
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  completed, but the Zeki is no slouch.
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  He has proven himself and this year definitely you got to tip
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  the hat off to him because you've had no real like teammate
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  to lean on to get data from is basically you and your
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  engineering and it trickled down to, you know, the other riders
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  on a period. So and what he did was he he,
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  you know, got a couple poles and a lot of wins.
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  He'd seen his struggles in the end of the year, but he's
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  definitely the closest I would say in the making to to Rossi.
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  OK, OK. What are your thoughts, Lewis,
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  on that, what Bez is doing? You're probably checking my
• 19:41
  numbers just to make sure. What I'm saying is I'm fine.
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  No, no, I'm not. I, I believe you.
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  I think, I think there's a lot of talent in the VR46 Academy
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  overall. Like if you look at all the guys
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  that are part of that program, there's a lot of talent there.
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  I think this year Bizecki has shown that next step in the
• 20:05
  progression of a really good rider from a really good rider
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  to possibly a great rider. You know, he went from a
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  competitive, super competitive bike from Ducati.
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  The big risk to go to a prelate, even though it had shown some
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  brass flashes of brilliance, it had never been a consistent race
• 20:24
  over race front runner, you know.
• 20:29
  Asparagus had shown some flashes of brilliance here and there,
• 20:33
  but it wasn't ever a consistent thing.
• 20:36
  And the Zeki is somehow taking a bike at the beginning of the
• 20:39
  year wasn't really working for him, adapted his riding style,
• 20:43
  worked with the team to make some changes to the bike.
• 20:46
  And at that certain point of the midway part of the season, like
• 20:51
  he really started coming out right before the midway part and
• 20:54
  just started building on building on build on that.
• 20:56
  And I think if he stays with Aprilia and they continue to
• 21:02
  evolve this package, I think he going into next year, he's
• 21:05
  definitely got to be considered one of the favorites to win the
• 21:09
  championship, more so than, you know, more so than I would say
• 21:13
  Martine right now, because Martine next year is starting
• 21:16
  like Bazecki started this year at the beginning of the year.
• 21:19
  Like next year is really his first year on the bike.
• 21:21
  Bazecki is his second year on the bike.
• 21:24
  I I, I, I completely agree, Reese, man.
• 21:28
  Welcome to the show, man. What's, what's that?
• 21:31
  What's good, man? What's going on, man?
• 21:34
  No. I thought I'd be parked by now,
• 21:35
  but traffic, but I'm all good. What's going on?
• 21:39
  I can't complain, man. I don't know how much of that
• 21:42
  you you've heard is, but I repeat it.
• 21:46
  Is Bez the closest thing to a Rossi coming out of the VR46
• 21:49
  Academy being able to put jumping on a bike for the first
• 21:54
  year, be able to finish third in the championship.
• 21:57
  Marquez was the only other rider in modern time that was able to
• 22:01
  do that, switching manufacturers and and finishing third in the
• 22:04
  championship. Although Lewis, I think he can
• 22:08
  hear me. Mark had more points last year
• 22:12
  than Bez did this year. But what are your thoughts,
• 22:14
  Reese? I mean, the part I heard from
• 22:17
  Lewis, I did, I do agree with that.
• 22:19
  I do think that him jumping on that bike and he came, he kind
• 22:23
  of came into his own after they started, you know, gelling
• 22:26
  together and and kind of matching up in the second-half
• 22:28
  of the season because he really came came on in the second-half
• 22:31
  of the season real strong. So I think that was a good
• 22:35
  marriage right there. And I think if he stays with
• 22:37
  that package and he and he really goes forward with it, I
• 22:41
  really think that he can be a top contender next year being as
• 22:45
  far as with the VR46, I think he is one of the strongest coming
• 22:50
  out the way he has come come along.
• 22:54
  Do I so as far as like a Rossi, I mean, he's he's close.
• 23:00
  He's not going to lie, he's damn near close.
• 23:02
  He's right there. I mean, we still got a good way
• 23:05
  to go, but he has shown some talent on that bike.
• 23:09
  And just like you know what Lewis said with Jorge, I mean,
• 23:12
  Jorge is pretty much starting from scratch.
• 23:14
  So he's got a long way to go to to develop that bike for him and
• 23:17
  match it to his style of riding. Yeah, I, I, I agree with that.
• 23:22
  Nice. That's what's up.
• 23:26
  Alex Marquez, you know, where would you rank his overall
• 23:30
  performance this weekend and also all season, right?
• 23:34
  Because I mean, it's pretty impressive.
• 23:37
  Where would you rank Alex and what he's been doing this year?
• 23:42
  And you know, after the injury, we saw him fall off a little bit
• 23:47
  as one wounded from injuries. But he's he finished out the
• 23:52
  year as strong as one can come. If you look at all these other
• 23:55
  guys that's been injured this year and where they are and in
• 23:57
  the standings. What are your thoughts, TJ?
• 24:02
  I mean, like I've been saying all year, I never expected Alex
• 24:06
  to do what he did. I mean, like, obviously riders
• 24:11
  should be improving year by year, But from the year he had
• 24:15
  last year, I mean, I know it's the the type of bike, but he had
• 24:19
  a hell of a year this year. I'll rate, I'll rate his
• 24:21
  performance this year pretty much 10 out of 10.
• 24:26
  I mean, I just remember last year when he had that incident
• 24:29
  with Petco at Aragon, you know, it was a it was a little battle
• 24:34
  of like whose fault it was and Alex would being in the way and
• 24:39
  should have let him by. And you know, I feel like he,
• 24:43
  you know, he he mentally knew that he was just a stronger
• 24:46
  rider and a strong rider. He didn't have to back down to
• 24:49
  any other one. So this year I think he really
• 24:51
  improved it. I think he's a 10 out of 10
• 24:54
  performance going into this weekend.
• 24:57
  I mean, he did qualify 2nd on the grid, but he got the Sprint.
• 25:02
  Think he chose probably the wrong tire package or something
• 25:05
  like that on the GP because you know, his pace dropped off or he
• 25:09
  just maybe had no energy. But 10 out of 10, I'll say for
• 25:13
  Alex. You know, Alex did mention in
• 25:17
  the the win in the Sprint saying that you know, he know he could
• 25:21
  be faster on Sunday. He didn't back up his words.
• 25:24
  TJ, you know you, you're going to blame it on tires.
• 25:30
  I mean, I mean, you know, he he should know better, like how to
• 25:34
  manage a Sprint to AGP racing. I'm sure they all been to
• 25:39
  Valencia before. But you know, I don't know, it's
• 25:43
  it's 2244 races. Like, you know, he's he's a no,
• 25:47
  he already did what he had to do and all the conferences we've
• 25:51
  met and at the end he just probably just wanted to get to
• 25:55
  that testament on on Tuesday. So just probably took it easy.
• 26:00
  I mean, like even his own teammate overtook him in the
• 26:02
  last corner. I know.
• 26:05
  So, you know, for him to let let it slip like that, like, you
• 26:09
  know, you don't really see that from Alex.
• 26:11
  So I think it's the tires. It's nice.
• 26:13
  So you know, Lewis, I, I didn't add this when I talked about
• 26:16
  Bazecki, because to me, Bazecki's, even though he
• 26:19
  finished third in the championship, he's really #2
• 26:22
  because he, he kind of just started out slow and just kind
• 26:26
  of made an upward progression where Alex finished second in
• 26:29
  the championship, but he's slipping and sliding.
• 26:33
  What are your thoughts on, on, on Alex's performance overall?
• 26:37
  And, and this this weekend, you think like TJ said, like like I
• 26:41
  said, he, he did. They just made the wrong choice
• 26:42
  on, on, on Sunday with tires. Or maybe he's, you know, the,
• 26:47
  the, was it the, the, the silver?
• 26:49
  What is it? The silver bullet, not bullet
• 26:51
  slip. What is that I had today?
• 26:55
  I'll, I'll get it. What are your thoughts?
• 26:57
  No, I think Bazecki and and Marquez are, I mean Alex
• 27:01
  Marquez, obviously. I think they are different sides
• 27:05
  of the same coin. Whereas Marquez started the
• 27:08
  season very, very strong and Bazecki struggled.
• 27:12
  Just as Marquez started or Alex started to struggle, Bazecki
• 27:16
  started to come on. So it's almost like at the end
• 27:19
  of the year, they balance each other out.
• 27:22
  If Bizek had started just a little bit better, he'd probably
• 27:25
  be second in the championship, not third.
• 27:30
  But I think on Saturday that the teams, Nah, they're not going.
• 27:35
  But I think the team just made a really bad decision on the
• 27:39
  tires. You know, you, there was a, you
• 27:41
  could see with like 6 or 7 laps left, he was already starting to
• 27:45
  have some problems when the camera would focus on him.
• 27:48
  And I think it probably just got progressively worse.
• 27:50
  And he probably got to a point where he's like, look, I just
• 27:52
  got to manage the time I have. I'm not going to catch the three
• 27:55
  guys or four guys in the front. And then, you know, we know for
• 27:59
  a fact that Al Daguerre is super strong when the tires drop, Like
• 28:03
  he's one of the fastest riders as the tires get worse.
• 28:07
  And so when, you know, when Al Daguerre was there within like a
• 28:11
  second and a half, two seconds, I was like, yeah, he this is
• 28:14
  going to, this isn't going to end well for Alex because that
• 28:18
  kids got that kids got nothing but pissing vinegar running
• 28:22
  through his veins, man. He just wants to do whatever he
• 28:24
  can do. So good for him, man.
• 28:27
  I, I'm super stoked for him. But Alex did what he needed to
• 28:30
  do, brought it home. They're going to start testing
• 28:33
  and from there, you know, we'll see what happens next year.
• 28:36
  I, you know, I hear so many different things of what
• 28:40
  Ducati's doing for next year or what their new bike is going to
• 28:42
  be. So we'll see.
• 28:44
  Hopefully they can do something because I, I know outside of the
• 28:47
  Grisini team, I mean the Grisini team has outperformed the
• 28:50
  factory team a lot more in the second-half of the year than
• 28:54
  anybody would have expected. What if we're going to we're
• 28:56
  going to talk about that. So definitely hold on to that.
• 29:01
  Silver Surfer is what they were going for with Alex Marquez and
• 29:06
  the and the. That's funny because in the, in
• 29:10
  the in the post race little chat the three riders have they were
• 29:15
  they were asking each other why is he in silver?
• 29:18
  And they speculate always because you get silver for being
• 29:20
  in second place. And they told Bazecki, Oh, maybe
• 29:23
  you, you should be in bronze. Yeah, see, I got to.
• 29:28
  I got to learn Spanish and Italian you get.
• 29:32
  You get all the scoop. You get all the scoop when you
• 29:34
  know the language, man. So that's what that's what
• 29:37
  Acosta had told. Like Bazeki had asked why he's
• 29:41
  in silver. And Acosta said, oh, I think
• 29:43
  it's because silver is what you get for the medal in second
• 29:46
  place. And then Acosta told them all,
• 29:49
  you know, Bazeki, you should have had a bronze suit.
• 29:53
  And he was like, Nah, Nah, Nah. I just got engaged.
• 29:57
  I'm good. No bronze suits.
• 30:01
  What's going on, Reese, what are your thoughts on Alex Marquez?
• 30:05
  Maybe it was the outfit slowed him down how he did this season
• 30:12
  despite the injuries and everything, I mean, and despite
• 30:15
  the 6th place on on Sunday, because at the end of the day,
• 30:18
  he still solidified second in the overall championship.
• 30:21
  So he gets a nice check. Right.
• 30:23
  I mean, he still solidified second overall.
• 30:25
  He still gets, as you know, we saying all the time, you can
• 30:28
  still get a a big check. There's a big difference from
• 30:30
  2nd to 3rd. So I mean, he still gets a nice
• 30:33
  check. I mean, in the second-half of
• 30:35
  the season you you could see that he was kind of more spotty.
• 30:39
  He was on, off, on off. And you know, like everyone else
• 30:43
  said, I mean, I disagree with everybody.
• 30:45
  I agree with everyone. It's just they just made a bad
• 30:47
  tired choice coming up here in the in the GP.
• 30:50
  Like you could just see he was struggling and just trying to
• 30:53
  pretty much limp at home and just trying to do the best he
• 30:55
  can. But I, I think if, but it's like
• 30:59
  it's, you know, if Izecki would have had the same amount of
• 31:02
  success as he did in the second-half all the way through,
• 31:06
  we would have a different conversation right about now in
• 31:09
  second place. So overall, I think Mark Alex
• 31:15
  did a great job. It's just to see if he can
• 31:18
  actually continue that success with the new GP with the 26th
• 31:24
  that he's going to get since he will now be on a factory bike.
• 31:28
  And he also said, you know, with the factory bike, he does have
• 31:30
  to show that he's worth it. So I mean, he's got a lot of
• 31:34
  work to prove and a lot of stuff to deal with.
• 31:36
  So we'll see what he can he can continue that success next year.
• 31:41
  Yeah, I agree. He does have a lot to show and
• 31:44
  you know, he he he got by in 24, but he definitely earned his
• 31:49
  keep in 25. So that's that's pretty
• 31:51
  impressive. The awards ship banquet was last
• 31:56
  night. If there was an award to be
• 31:59
  given for what Pedro did this season on the KTM, with all
• 32:04
  their woes and all the in house stuff and external stuff, on
• 32:08
  track stuff, what would you call that award?
• 32:12
  Let's start with DJ. Yeah.
• 32:17
  I mean shit, I mean, I don't even know.
• 32:27
  I don't even know what I would call that award like.
• 32:30
  But what? What, what?
• 32:31
  He might not have a name for it, but how would you describe what
• 32:35
  he did this year? I mean, like, I mean, he, he,
• 32:40
  he, he put in a lot of work he did, he put in a lot of effort.
• 32:44
  But when things went wrong, his, his, the way he responded to
• 32:49
  that. It's just that it wasn't equal.
• 32:51
  So gotcha. OK, I mean.
• 32:54
  Like, go ahead. I, I, I mean, I, I, like I said,
• 32:58
  I'm picking up a word to call the award, but I don't know.
• 33:02
  I I kind of want to hear what Lou's got to say.
• 33:05
  All right, man, they're throwing it to you.
• 33:06
  Lewis got like 10 of them already.
• 33:08
  He's like finally what? What kind of award would you
• 33:14
  give him? Because see, I was think I I,
• 33:16
  you know, T JS holding some, you know, couple of bad things that
• 33:20
  that Acosta did, but overall. To.
• 33:23
  Me, I would think, you know, I was thinking like 6 man of the
• 33:27
  year if the kind of award because you know that KTM, he
• 33:30
  made that KTM what finished fourth in the championship.
• 33:40
  Am I? Am I leading the witness?
• 33:43
  Your mute is on? Did I do?
• 33:45
  That I said really, it's a he should be 5th if Petco didn't
• 33:49
  completely fall apart. Just one more dig at Petco 2025.
• 33:54
  OK. All right.
• 33:55
  And he wouldn't have even finished that far up.
• 33:58
  I think Vanyalas would have finished in front of him had
• 34:02
  Vanyalas not gotten hurt. So all things given.
• 34:06
  I mean he's still in the top 6 let's say, which is really good
• 34:10
  considering where some other people on the same bike are.
• 34:13
  I mean, I don't know, angry little Spanish guy complaining
• 34:18
  until he gets what he wants award.
• 34:20
  I don't know what to do something like that.
• 34:22
  Like complain to the Austrians, give an award all.
• 34:33
  Right. OK.
• 34:34
  I, I mean, you know, let's, let's see.
• 34:36
  Let's see what Reese got. I mean.
• 34:39
  I don't even know. I can't even say.
• 34:42
  I'm like just I don't even know how you want to call that award
• 34:45
  Spanish award. I don't freaking know.
• 34:48
  I'm lost some. I'm with DJ on that one.
• 34:51
  I. Mean, you know, he finished.
• 34:53
  I'm with DJA. Lot of podiums these last four
• 34:56
  rounds. Right in the Coattails Award.
• 34:59
  There you go, he wrote vignettes.
• 35:01
  Yeah, that, that might be I I agree.
• 35:04
  Riding the Coattails Award. OK.
• 35:07
  I can agree. All right, all right, riding the
• 35:10
  Coattail Awards is what he what he's going to get.
• 35:13
  All right, here we go. I I I looked up some, let's say
• 35:16
  the Angry Bird award. That that, that that could work
• 35:23
  too. So, OK, all right, well, let's
• 35:26
  let's say the same question, but we're going to pose it to Fabio
• 35:29
  Cuatararo, cause, you know, he, he did some amazing things in
• 35:34
  one lap for that Yamaha. I'm sure he helps some people
• 35:39
  keep their Yamaha and probably buy a, a Yamaha if there's an
• 35:45
  award for Fabio. What, what, what just is it
• 35:48
  Braveheart? I don't know what, what are your
• 35:50
  thoughts, TJ? Yeah, Yamaha.
• 35:53
  Yeah, you. Said I heard that when Reese
• 35:58
  said Reese did something I mean, you got to give it to Fabio,
• 36:03
  like Fabio really tries hard, but he's demanding, you know, so
• 36:09
  like I would say like, you know, I'm not good off top of here
• 36:14
  with like award days, but you know, like you got to give him
• 36:16
  to like, you know, little beast or something like that, like Mr.
• 36:23
  Mr. aggressive you. Just missed the beast, Mr.
• 36:27
  Beast. I mean, he got the he got the
• 36:30
  devil on his on his helmet. So like he has that, like you
• 36:33
  tell, he has that like aggression.
• 36:36
  So all. Right, so he he may need some
• 36:37
  holy water. Yeah, maybe.
• 36:40
  The devil isn't working all right.
• 36:43
  You know, I think you're batting up.
• 36:44
  You got one for one right now, Lewis.
• 36:46
  We're giving out awards, so there's going to be 1 for Fabio.
• 36:50
  He's on a Yamaha, so that might be tough for you, but you know.
• 36:58
  Fastest guy in the slowest bike award.
• 37:03
  FS. Yeah, fastest bike, slowest
• 37:07
  fastest guy in the slowest bike award.
• 37:10
  FBSG. Yeah, the Looking Good and
• 37:15
  Pearls Award. Yeah, the Pearl Nexus Award,
• 37:26
  String of Pearls Award. Oh, man, but I but you know,
• 37:34
  this guy, his his his performance this year and is it
• 37:38
  a big deal? I mean, is it something that's
• 37:40
  kind of like, it's cool but it's only, you know, just to talk,
• 37:45
  talk, talk about, but it doesn't mean much overall or it it's
• 37:49
  good for Yamaha that they can still get 6 poles this year and
• 37:52
  be one of the slowest spikes. It is, but I mean it just you
• 37:56
  know, it's another year of it sucks to be Fabio Cuatraro, you
• 38:01
  know, like the the most one of the most talented riders that
• 38:05
  can't show his talent because he doesn't have the package to be
• 38:08
  competitive. You know, if if you told me to
• 38:11
  swap him with Pedro Acosta, I think he would have done better
• 38:18
  than Pedro Acosta. If you told me to swap him with
• 38:21
  Bagnaya, Ducati factory team would finish one and two.
• 38:25
  You know on any other bike this this guy would be winning races
• 38:29
  or be be racing for the wind every every single round.
• 38:34
  Not racing for the wind once in a blue moon.
• 38:38
  So. That's, that's, that's, that's
• 38:40
  where I feel, you know, that's where I kind of feel a little
• 38:43
  bit of a pity for, for Quadararo that, you know, it you, it's,
• 38:48
  it's, it sucks to be on a bike that, you know, you can't do
• 38:53
  more with. I mean, at least money being sad
• 38:58
  and rich is better than being sad and poor.
• 39:00
  And he gets paid well to be sad. But I'm sure he would happily
• 39:06
  take the money and some wins and not just the money.
• 39:10
  I agree. What are your thoughts, Reese?
• 39:13
  Yeah, Yamaha. So you can't say anything
• 39:15
  negative about Yamaha? So is that the the 7th man of
• 39:21
  the year award he's getting? No, listen, I'm a Yamaha man,
• 39:27
  but I can call bullshit. On that side, I don't know, on
• 39:35
  our side, you know, that'd be different.
• 39:37
  But all right, that side, man, I'm going to call bullshit.
• 39:39
  That was a bullshit award. You know, for the most, like, I
• 39:43
  think that's one of them trophies you get, you know, back
• 39:46
  in the day when you just do participation award, that was
• 39:49
  that award for him. Like he's shit.
• 39:53
  That's the award I'm going to give him because I mean, yeah,
• 39:56
  he got podiums and and you know, it's great, but it's just like
• 40:00
  it was just. You you pretty much riding over
• 40:04
  your head, like you're riding over your head luck of the draw.
• 40:07
  And it's just like, it's that was just bad, you know, And then
• 40:10
  they're like, what D tier? I think I look there and like
• 40:13
  the D tier level for consistence.
• 40:16
  Like, that's just ridiculous. Right.
• 40:19
  Yeah, let's talk about. Well, well, I'll say this when
• 40:22
  we talk about Ducati because I know Lewis have some things to
• 40:26
  say. So you know, in 2025, Ducati
• 40:30
  finished 8th overall with six bikes, right?
• 40:35
  In the top eight overall. In 2524, I think they were like
• 40:40
  11th overall with eight riders in 23.
• 40:44
  I think they were like 12th overall with eight riders or
• 40:46
  something like that. So this is the best season
• 40:48
  they've had, you know, in the last three years, probably the
• 40:53
  whole since they've been in Moto GP period.
• 40:56
  So how do you guys rate Ducati and what they're doing?
• 40:59
  Even though we see the struggles, Peko finishing in
• 41:01
  5th, but there's only two bikes that finished in the top eight.
• 41:05
  One was the KTM, one was in Aprilia.
• 41:09
  Is this something for Ducati to celebrate or should they should,
• 41:16
  or should they look to improve even more?
• 41:20
  Obviously they're going to look to improve.
• 41:22
  But they, you know, there's six bikes and only one can be one,
• 41:26
  right? And so they, they're, they're,
• 41:27
  they're taking the 1st 8 spots. What are your thoughts, TJ?
• 41:31
  Oh, I got something for that bullshit.
• 41:32
  Got you. Well, let's let's let's get into
• 41:34
  Reese and let let's let Reese sounds like he's he's ready to
• 41:37
  go. So sorry to cut you off, TJ, but
• 41:40
  you know, he, he, he, he's also just came on the show.
• 41:44
  No y'all good I mean I listen on that note it's a damn Ducati
• 41:48
  show like to look to improve what you going to improve on
• 41:51
  like you know 66 bikes that's just insane.
• 41:56
  You know in the top ten you know come on so there's nothing top
• 41:59
  eight sorry oh sorry top 8 that's even worse.
• 42:02
  So there's nothing really to improve.
• 42:04
  You're at the top of the game. Didn't.
• 42:07
  If. Watch them go down the front
• 42:09
  straight away. They're blitzing everybody.
• 42:10
  They're just just destroying bikes.
• 42:14
  So it's at the point on what can you really improve, You know, I
• 42:17
  mean, maybe you can improve a little bit more on on tire wear,
• 42:21
  but as far as performance, I mean, you're already there.
• 42:24
  Is it like top racks? That is a damn Ducati cup.
• 42:28
  You know, if it wasn't for KTM or even Aprilia, Like I can't
• 42:33
  even count the Yamaha boys on that side.
• 42:35
  But it's just in the middle. Ducati cup all the way.
• 42:38
  It's literally that's all it is. Like, yeah, TJ, what are your
• 42:45
  thoughts? I'm not complaining.
• 42:46
  I like Ducatis. Yeah, we know.
• 42:49
  Yamaha I like to ATMs. I have two weeks.
• 42:53
  I mean, no, I mean I agree with Reese.
• 42:56
  Like what? What can they prove on?
• 42:58
  I felt like last year when they had eight bikes, I thought it
• 43:00
  was a little ridiculous and I wanted, it was a little
• 43:03
  interesting to see like you expected all Ducatis to win.
• 43:07
  There was a lot of races where it was just one through 5 Ducati
• 43:10
  and then you know, the Ducati lovers won't see it as being
• 43:15
  boring. But I'm just like, I want to see
• 43:17
  another manufacturer, you know, be more competitive.
• 43:20
  And for them having this year being their best year, I can't
• 43:24
  really, you can give it to them, but like at the end of the day,
• 43:28
  they have a superstar rider that you see Boo.
• 43:31
  Everyone will wave a points. So if Mark wasn't there, you
• 43:36
  know, it'll be a different story.
• 43:37
  I think they need to worry about how to get their rider riders to
• 43:41
  improve better like TECO, you know, going through tough times
• 43:46
  to to stay on top like like reset.
• 43:48
  They have to, you know, the best machine where you know, they can
• 43:52
  go down the straightaway and just beat everybody and, and
• 43:55
  they've been improving every year, coming up with new
• 43:59
  aerodynamics before anyone else has it and and stuff like that.
• 44:02
  So they've always been at the top of the game.
• 44:04
  So I don't see the bike needs to improve much, but they can keep
• 44:09
  their riders on the same level, that's all.
• 44:12
  The only thing I disagree with you is is, you know, only Ducati
• 44:15
  guys like like the, the, the dominance that's happening.
• 44:19
  You know, the Patriots and the Celtics, man, come on, man.
• 44:21
  I mean, you know, like how you. Weren't sick for the. 1st after
• 44:25
  the first 3. No, yeah, no, I feel you on
• 44:30
  that. You know, like, you know, you
• 44:33
  want to see your, your, your brand win and continue.
• 44:36
  Like everyone likes dominance, but I was more sane with having
• 44:42
  eight bikes, you know, so like or 6 bikes and, and saying
• 44:47
  you're dominant, it's, it's like, yeah, you have all the
• 44:50
  bikes where you can, you have the better advantage, but you
• 44:53
  still got to go out there and do it instead of racing at the end
• 44:55
  of the day. And I was just saying this year
• 44:58
  a lot of BS happened with a championship writer.
• 45:03
  Didn't look like a championship champion.
• 45:06
  Yeah, no doubt. Louis, what are your thoughts,
• 45:08
  man? On on Ducati and, and and what
• 45:10
  they're doing. And you know, Ducati should be
• 45:14
  in, should be everywhere, right? I mean, I give them, I give them
• 45:19
  credit for this. And I've said this before, it's
• 45:22
  not the first time. They are the only manufacturer
• 45:25
  or one of the few manufacturers that's still actively investing
• 45:28
  in the sport bike market in a big way.
• 45:32
  You know, we've spoken about it before where the Japanese
• 45:34
  manufacturers don't have their foot, if I'm the gas at all,
• 45:40
  barely on the gas. Whereas Ducati and BMW, you
• 45:43
  know, they have their foot 100% on the gas.
• 45:46
  I mean, they're investing heavily.
• 45:47
  They want to do big things. They want to take that mentality
• 45:50
  of when on Sunday and buy on Monday.
• 45:53
  And that's kind of been their better bread and butter for
• 45:55
  years in this industry. They had a little bit of a rough
• 45:59
  patch there when they first introduced the Panigale.
• 46:03
  They didn't win championship for a long time anywhere.
• 46:06
  They evolved the GP bike, they evolved the Penegale, they went
• 46:09
  to the V4, you know, they changed things and and they've
• 46:12
  turned it around in the last. Realistically, this is only the
• 46:16
  last 6-7 years. The Ducati has turned things
• 46:20
  around so much. Not that long.
• 46:22
  Yeah, because from 2012, when the previous 1199 or 1198 went
• 46:32
  away and then the Penegale came into existence, you know, when
• 46:36
  the Pentagon came into existence, it came in on the
• 46:39
  shoulders of like a bike that had previously won a lot.
• 46:43
  And it did Jack shit because it was, you know, it was built more
• 46:48
  for AI. Think it was more of an ego trip
• 46:53
  to build that bike than the idea of winning championships with
• 46:56
  it. Because they took what they were
• 46:58
  doing in Moto GP that wasn't working and they built it into a
• 47:02
  street bike that wasn't working. And then after a few years of
• 47:06
  swallowing a lot of crow for building a bike that nobody can
• 47:08
  seem to win on, they went back and they redesigned the bike.
• 47:13
  They went to the V4. They did this, they did that.
• 47:15
  They changed all the things. They took the ego out of it and
• 47:18
  went back to actually building a true world class championship
• 47:21
  bike, both in Moto GP and a world super bike.
• 47:25
  And now, you know, in the last seven years, they've gone back
• 47:28
  to dominate and these, you know, at least World Super Bike, they
• 47:32
  always were really competitive World Super Bike.
• 47:34
  But now, for the first time ever, they're really dominating
• 47:37
  in Moto GP. Right.
• 47:38
  I would say they they replace ego with electronics.
• 47:42
  No, no, they. It's the electronics is what
• 47:44
  makes that bike rideable. They raise ego with engineering
• 47:48
  that works, you know, because remember the previous Moto GP
• 47:53
  bike, what did they do? They connected the swing arm
• 47:56
  directly to the motor and said this is a great stress member.
• 47:59
  No, it's not A motor is a motor. It's not designed to hold the
• 48:02
  swing arm that could put 230 horsepower on the ground.
• 48:06
  The bike, the kinds of weird things.
• 48:08
  You know, one of the first things, I think one of the best
• 48:10
  things that they did is they stole Gigi Delegia from Aprilia.
• 48:17
  He probably sitting handily turned that not just their
• 48:20
  racing department around, but that entire company around
• 48:23
  because was designing or leading them in the design of their
• 48:28
  bikes before him. It should get fired.
• 48:32
  Right, right. Well, they did.
• 48:34
  I remember the person that was before Gigi came in and then
• 48:38
  they were having trouble when they said when Gigi came in he
• 48:40
  scrapped the whole project and redid it from the ground up and
• 48:45
  when he redid it he saved Ducati.
• 48:48
  Yeah, if like honestly, that hire, nobody thinks that hiring
• 48:53
  some guy to manage a race team is going to change your entire
• 48:57
  company's fortunes and whatever they're paying him, it ain't
• 49:01
  enough it. Ain't enough.
• 49:03
  No, it ain't enough. Because every single win that
• 49:06
  comes across any checkered line anywhere in the world, Anna
• 49:09
  Ducati, they can thank that guy for it and his vis and
• 49:14
  everything else all. Right.
• 49:15
  We're pretty impressive. Before we move, let's move.
• 49:18
  We're going to move off of Ducati, but we got to talk
• 49:21
  about, you know, Frankie, is this the icing on the cake for
• 49:25
  this guy to not be Moto GP 2027? I love the guy, I love the guy,
• 49:29
  but is this the icing on the cake?
• 49:33
  Look. He cannot have that much right?
• 49:36
  He can't have that much more pressure than Pekka.
• 49:38
  Like both of them are frustrated but Jesus fucking Christ I both
• 49:42
  of them need to icing on the cake and just be like all right,
• 49:44
  time to move on. I've I've never, I've never seen
• 49:48
  a rider that has problems in other places like like, you
• 49:54
  know, been racing. I mean, I know this was racing,
• 49:56
  but like, like how you need to answer the grid and stuff like
• 50:00
  that. Like you, you don't even give
• 50:02
  yourself a chance sometimes, you know, like he does certain
• 50:04
  things where he just just cause himself to get a penalty or he
• 50:09
  gets himself in trouble. And yeah, it's just I didn't
• 50:12
  understand what happened. Like you, you think that
• 50:14
  happened in lower class? Like, like he fell asleep.
• 50:19
  I mean, I don't know. I'll.
• 50:21
  Say this, he did not expect whatchamacallit to do what he
• 50:25
  did, how he engaged the the the the ride height device for the
• 50:29
  stairs. Because you can see like once he
• 50:33
  once he once he did the endo, you can see Frankie try to avoid
• 50:37
  him like instantly, but it was already too late.
• 50:40
  And if he and if he didn't, if the bike didn't come off the
• 50:43
  ground, he would have cleared them if the bike was on the
• 50:45
  ground. But I know that when all the
• 50:48
  bikes get on the grid, they have to do it in building to engage
• 50:51
  their right hand device. They usually do they.
• 50:53
  Usually do it before I think oh hey Martinez is one of the only
• 50:56
  guy that kind of does what what Elise did.
• 50:59
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, they were like
• 51:01
  literally legit in their positions.
• 51:03
  So like, I don't know, it was kind of, it was kind of
• 51:06
  unfortunate for him. It sucked.
• 51:07
  I mean, yeah, it's a freak accident, but it's just it only
• 51:11
  matches up to Frankie like it happens to have.
• 51:14
  So do you, do you, do you think he, he, he, he lost his seat in
• 51:17
  20? Well, there's no seat because
• 51:19
  there's no contract. But is this the thing that kind
• 51:21
  of say? All right man, let's find
• 51:22
  someone else. Yeah, man.
• 51:25
  Well, he's on the training block.
• 51:26
  That's what you call it. Like he's like there's a rider
• 51:29
  that can show some talent and show some light.
• 51:33
  Like, all right, we got a spot that can fill over Jelly
• 51:36
  already. No, I yeah, I feel your Reese.
• 51:39
  What are your thoughts, man? I, I, I feel like this is the
• 51:41
  thing that like, for me, like, I mean, I love the guy and I've
• 51:44
  been rooting for him for forever, but it's just like, you
• 51:48
  know, like stop shooting yourself in the foot.
• 51:54
  I mean, you're on the chopping blocks, man.
• 51:58
  That that's we're, we're at a professional level, at a high
• 52:03
  end level and you come into the grid and you do some dumb shit
• 52:06
  like that, You know, I mean, it's like, what, what were you
• 52:09
  thinking? Like it's like that was like the
• 52:11
  most rookiest mistake I've ever seen.
• 52:13
  It's like you almost fell asleep behind the bars.
• 52:16
  You know, I'm just like, what? What were you thinking?
• 52:18
  So I mean, unless, unless he can actually turn, you know, next
• 52:23
  year around because he's already signed his contract for next
• 52:25
  year. So he's already on the seat, you
• 52:27
  know, unless he turns it completely around And just I
• 52:32
  mean, I want to say top three dominated, just being the top
• 52:35
  three all the time. I mean, he's going to get
• 52:37
  chopped. There's just too many penalties,
• 52:39
  man. There's too many, There's too
• 52:41
  many simple mistakes that you make, like the penalties, the
• 52:45
  points and the the ride throughs or the the double long lap
• 52:50
  penalty, the long lap penalty, however you want, whatever it
• 52:52
  is, you know, it's just too much of it for, you know, it's like
• 52:56
  at the end of the day, yeah, you're a great right.
• 52:59
  You know, you're 1 of Rossi's boys and you know, you come from
• 53:02
  VR46 camp. But at the end of the day,
• 53:05
  Rossi's running a business. He's running a business and he's
• 53:08
  not here for, you know, as some people would say, they're not
• 53:11
  here for charity. They're, you know, we're here to
• 53:13
  win or try to do something and, you know, not doing anything.
• 53:17
  And that's just hurting the team.
• 53:19
  And, and he finished, you know, 7th in the championship with all
• 53:23
  the antics and stuff that happened with him.
• 53:25
  I mean, imagine if this guy just had a clean season, he could
• 53:29
  have possibly been maybe third or fourth in the championship
• 53:32
  because he had some races or some opportunities to to finish
• 53:36
  strong and races where he just did bonehead stuff or had a lot
• 53:39
  of long life penalties and stuff like that.
• 53:41
  We get thoughts, Lewis. I mean, we tearing up the
• 53:43
  contract early. No, man, I mean I if anything,
• 53:47
  you know, so he's got next year to to to clear his head and get
• 53:52
  his head out of out of his ass and prove himself because I from
• 53:57
  my understanding him and the Jan Antonio are both only on a one
• 54:01
  year contract. Yeah.
• 54:02
  Next year, yeah. So it's really going to be a
• 54:05
  fight between those two. Who stays in the seat and he
• 54:09
  needs to just, you know, put his head down, focus and just out
• 54:14
  ride his teammate 1st and then try to do the best he can after
• 54:18
  that. You know, I know that, you know,
• 54:21
  within the team, people really like him.
• 54:23
  You know, he's a, he's a nice guy to be around and everything
• 54:26
  else. He's not as much of A of a issue
• 54:29
  inside the garage. He's not somebody that, you
• 54:31
  know, rants and raves and throws stuff and yells and screams.
• 54:34
  So, you know, so teams tend to take that into consideration
• 54:39
  too, because I mean, there's a lot of riders that don't have
• 54:41
  rides and a lot of that has to do with their attitude.
• 54:45
  So if he has the right attitude, if he comes in, he's he, you
• 54:47
  know, comes in in the best shape of his life, super focused and
• 54:51
  does what he can do, he'll probably salvage that.
• 54:53
  But if he is not riding at a potential that they think that
• 54:57
  him and the bike should be at, if his teammate out rides him,
• 55:00
  then he's going to be out of a ride, man.
• 55:02
  He's going to be looking for someplace else to, you know, to
• 55:05
  hang his hat. Unfortunately.
• 55:07
  I like him a lot too, man. I, you know, I think he's a,
• 55:09
  he's a good character to have. He's that, you know, that one
• 55:15
  character. I mean, he's the only one in the
• 55:17
  entire grid other than the Asians that doesn't come from
• 55:21
  Europe. You know, now we have another
• 55:24
  Brazilian. So he definitely got to beat
• 55:26
  that other Brazilian. Although although these these
• 55:29
  Moto GP guys were saying the first Brazilian to win because
• 55:34
  Frankie won the Moto 2 title. Yep.
• 55:37
  And I mean, I know he's a half, but like, I mean, what are we
• 55:40
  saying? He got to be 100% now because
• 55:43
  they were, they were should really give, you know, long
• 55:46
  spokes. English guys, man, those English
• 55:48
  guys don't know nothing. They you know what they think
• 55:51
  because they talk in an English accent that they sound so
• 55:54
  smarter. They ain't that smart.
• 55:56
  Just that English accent makes them sound smart.
• 55:59
  That's that, that's that is good to know, yeah.
• 56:02
  Everybody in games with throne had English accents.
• 56:05
  They were dumb as shit. Yeah, they were.
• 56:09
  I'm messing with my own anyway, but he's he's he's out through
• 56:13
  testing because of his hand. So it's not just that he just,
• 56:17
  you know, fell on on on a grid, but you know, now he doesn't get
• 56:21
  the part to test to tomorrow and or and you know that that's huge
• 56:27
  for and I was going to say last year at the beginning of the
• 56:30
  season, he was hurt on the Pentagon and preseason right, or
• 56:33
  before the season. So he couldn't do a lot of the
• 56:35
  preseason testing last year. Earlier this year, I should say,
• 56:38
  because he was on Primark last year.
• 56:40
  From what I understand, I mean, Ducati's not rolling out a ton
• 56:43
  of new changes to the banks. So it's not going to be like,
• 56:47
  you know, they're, they're bringing anything new to the
• 56:49
  table because it, you know, what's the purpose of putting
• 56:53
  millions and millions of dollars into a bike that's only going to
• 56:55
  be good for one year? So I don't, I don't think
• 56:58
  outside of Honda, which is might be testing parts that are going
• 57:04
  to go to the new bike. That's really most of the
• 57:07
  testing that's probably going to happen is is on packages that
• 57:10
  will eventually end up on the 27 bike.
• 57:12
  I'm pretty sure if you look through the grid next year, a
• 57:15
  lot of the bikes that are on the grid are going to be the 25
• 57:18
  bikes with small modifications for 26.
• 57:21
  Nobody's dumping a ton of money to try to win the title in 26
• 57:25
  knowing that they have to develop an entirely new bike in
• 57:28
  27. That's my feeling.
• 57:32
  All right, from moving from Frankie to to Jack Miller, he
• 57:38
  got a double double long lap penalty.
• 57:45
  It was so dropped three position and then he got along like
• 57:47
  penalty because he didn't drop the three position.
• 57:49
  Now I didn't see the incident in real time and he got a lot of
• 57:55
  blame in real time. But after watching it, I I can't
• 58:00
  see what he did. So is it fair?
• 58:02
  Was it a fair penalty to you guys or unfair penalty for what
• 58:05
  Jack Miller got? Because it looked like his rear
• 58:07
  tired, nudge firm and all the gear's arm and not like he
• 58:11
  pushed them off, you know. But he didn't do what Zarko did
• 58:15
  to Bagnaya. I mean, I think it was any other
• 58:21
  type of recent incident that where someone's trying to pass
• 58:24
  someone in the corner. From what I saw, Jack Miller
• 58:29
  just dive bombs, you know, to pass, you know, in a corner and
• 58:33
  have to be two bites. And Altiger was one of them.
• 58:38
  And basically when he died, bombed them, he kind of nicked
• 58:42
  Altiger a little bit where it causes Harry to fall off and
• 58:47
  stuff like that. But you know, Jack Miller was
• 58:50
  told to drop 2 positions or three positions and he didn't.
• 58:55
  And I, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if some riders just
• 58:58
  say F it and I'm just just take the penalty at the end because
• 59:01
  they probably know, you know, like the insurance and outs
• 59:05
  where like just a long lap penalty is better than just
• 59:09
  slowing down and dropping three positions where you really can't
• 59:12
  look back. So.
• 59:13
  Well, I mean, he did he, he it's the same position he would have
• 59:17
  lost when he took the. I think he only lost three
• 59:19
  positions when he did the long lap.
• 59:21
  So yeah, I mean, I don't know the benefit in all honesty.
• 59:25
  I mean, he should have just let the the virus go by.
• 59:28
  I mean, it was just been that easy and he he just didn't do
• 59:32
  it. So I think that was just the the
• 59:35
  argument there was, you know, he didn't do it in time where and
• 59:40
  then the laps that he's supposed to drop the position.
• 59:42
  So you know the the stewards had to get involved.
• 59:47
  You. Know you think.
• 59:49
  It was fear. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he should've
• 59:53
  like, what are you? It was kind of wild.
• 59:55
  The passive baby was kind of wild, but you know, it's yeah,
• 1:00:00
  it was fair. Man, you starting to sound like
• 1:00:03
  a politician. I was wondering when you were
• 1:00:04
  going to say yes, no. You know, sometimes, sometimes
• 1:00:10
  they've been making decisions. You'd be like, what?
• 1:00:13
  Like, you know, sometimes they choose to do it like the the
• 1:00:16
  next race or you know, it's just not the the right type of
• 1:00:20
  penalty or double long lap or it shouldn't have been like I don't
• 1:00:24
  know, I guess. Yeah, like, you know, like, like
• 1:00:26
  Martine, for instance. What?
• 1:00:27
  But what are your thoughts, Reese, on, on Jack Miller's
• 1:00:30
  penalty? Is it something that you think
• 1:00:33
  was fair or unfair? I, you know, I, I think it was
• 1:00:35
  kind of unfair personally, but that's me.
• 1:00:39
  I mean, the past was kind of hard.
• 1:00:41
  I mean, it almost looked like he kind of dove in there a little
• 1:00:44
  tight and then they kind of bumped real hard.
• 1:00:47
  It's almost like a dive bomb, but it.
• 1:00:49
  How many times does Aldigia does that, though?
• 1:00:51
  This whole season? How many times, 10 times has he
• 1:00:54
  done that to people? He has, I mean, he has done it.
• 1:00:59
  I mean, but it was just so that was a little aggressive.
• 1:01:01
  I thought that was something coming.
• 1:01:03
  When I saw it, I was like, there's something coming down
• 1:01:05
  the pipeline. So I mean it, it's like a 5050.
• 1:01:08
  I mean, I it's something you could say, yeah, it's kind of
• 1:01:10
  stupid. And then you could kind of say,
• 1:01:12
  yeah, it was kind of harsh. It shouldn't have been done all.
• 1:01:15
  Right. 5050 Louis, are you? I know you saw it clear as day.
• 1:01:19
  You. Know Louis is going to have some
• 1:01:21
  harsh shit to say. No, I'm not going to.
• 1:01:23
  I mean, personally, I think to be honest with you, I personally
• 1:01:29
  think that it was right on the razor's edge of a racing
• 1:01:33
  incident and a little more than you should do.
• 1:01:38
  So that it's a decision that would have, could have gone
• 1:01:41
  either way. It's really just how the track
• 1:01:43
  Marshall interpreted it at that moment.
• 1:01:46
  Because if you look at it like, yeah, the IT was a pass and it
• 1:01:50
  was a, a, a hard pass, but it wasn't like he completely took
• 1:01:55
  out the gear out. But on the flip side is if
• 1:02:00
  you've got that much pace to pass him and you got to do
• 1:02:04
  something that that sketchy where you are almost sure to
• 1:02:08
  make contact with the rider, are you better off just setting them
• 1:02:12
  up at the next corner and passing them clean?
• 1:02:15
  Rubbing is racing, Lewis. Rubbing.
• 1:02:17
  Is rubbing is racing. But if you rub too much,
• 1:02:20
  somebody's going to come and meet you in the garage and
• 1:02:23
  introduce you to the shadow realm and put you put make you
• 1:02:28
  look like Kamar Osman in that one UFC bout.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that is true there.
• 1:02:34
  That is true. It's, it's, it's a little tough,
• 1:02:36
  but Aldiger does of all the writers out there, he's one of
• 1:02:40
  those writers that, you know, he, he, he goes for everything,
• 1:02:43
  even when there's nothing there sometimes.
• 1:02:46
  I mean, that's that's it is racing you, you do have to go
• 1:02:49
  for I mean you do have to go for those gaps when you find them.
• 1:02:54
  And especially I blame this and this is just, I blame a lot of
• 1:02:58
  these hard passes that are happening in the last 2-3 years
• 1:03:02
  or these sketch as on Spanish people and Europeans, mainly
• 1:03:06
  because they're 99% of the of the grid.
• 1:03:11
  You know, the Aussie is the only one that's not on, you know, one
• 1:03:13
  of the few people that's not from England.
• 1:03:15
  So, you know, I got to give him a little pass.
• 1:03:17
  It's it's on the aerodynamics, man.
• 1:03:20
  You know, the aerodynamics have made it just so difficult to
• 1:03:23
  draft past people cleanly that you have to do these crazy
• 1:03:27
  sketchy passes because you can't just out aerodynamics somebody.
• 1:03:31
  You can't just outbreak somebody.
• 1:03:33
  You got to outdrive them. You know, between the
• 1:03:36
  aerodynamics and the right height devices and everything
• 1:03:39
  else, they've taken the ability for riders to pass in a
• 1:03:43
  controlled manner away for the most part.
• 1:03:46
  So now riders out of desperation are making more and more of
• 1:03:49
  these like lunges from way back and like, you know, right at the
• 1:03:54
  apex, just meet each other. Or, you know, it's I can't wait
• 1:03:58
  for like these arrow packages to go away, especially the arrow
• 1:04:00
  packages that damage the air behind their bike.
• 1:04:04
  And even, you know, listening to Bulaga this past weekend, it's
• 1:04:09
  his second weekend in GP, coming from World Super Black where
• 1:04:12
  they don't have all these aerodynamics and all these
• 1:04:14
  packages. You know, even he has mentioned
• 1:04:17
  in the Italian media that he didn't realize how bad it is to
• 1:04:22
  pass in Moto GP because. It's so hard.
• 1:04:26
  His last experience in the champ in the World Championship on
• 1:04:29
  Moto 2, it wasn't like that. You know, it's more or less a
• 1:04:33
  production bike. You don't have dirty air in
• 1:04:35
  front of you. You can get up behind somebody,
• 1:04:37
  draft them, catch a little bit of draft.
• 1:04:39
  He said when he would get stuck behind other bikes, he felt no
• 1:04:43
  breeze. He felt like there was no air in
• 1:04:46
  front of him, like he didn't feel that he was actually
• 1:04:50
  gaining on the gas because there was.
• 1:04:52
  It felt like all the air that was in front of him was like a
• 1:04:55
  void. And it's so you couldn't get
• 1:04:58
  really close because as soon as you get close, you start to feel
• 1:05:00
  a lot of turbulence coming from the bike in front of you.
• 1:05:03
  And if you stay far enough of back where you don't have that
• 1:05:06
  turbulence, now you have to make up that distance again in the
• 1:05:10
  break to try to pass. So as soon as these aerodynamics
• 1:05:13
  go away and these stupid right heights devices go away and a
• 1:05:16
  little bit more, the control is back on the riders to make
• 1:05:18
  passes. We'll probably see less of these
• 1:05:21
  bonehead. I mean, we're still going to see
• 1:05:22
  bonehead passes. That's part of racing for as
• 1:05:25
  long as they've been racing. But you'll see less bonehead
• 1:05:28
  passes when that happens and with a when a couple of guys are
• 1:05:32
  no longer in the grid that just like making these bonehead
• 1:05:34
  passes. Anyway, it's just it's racing,
• 1:05:40
  man. It was a good weekend.
• 1:05:41
  I got to say Honda, you know, Mayor unfortunately cleaned out
• 1:05:46
  his teammate in the Sprint. That's teamwork, baby.
• 1:05:53
  Exactly. That's teamwork, man.
• 1:05:55
  They want those concessions still.
• 1:05:57
  That's what it. Is I mean.
• 1:06:00
  I needed to take out both races, not just one.
• 1:06:03
  Right, that's what I'm saying. They they, they don't want to
• 1:06:06
  make it look obvious. You know you're just doing a.
• 1:06:08
  Spread well, you know, they're they're moving up to C from D,
• 1:06:11
  which is good for Honda. I wasn't sure if Luka was going
• 1:06:15
  to make it. They were very happy.
• 1:06:17
  It's I, I, I, it seemed like the factory guys are going to be
• 1:06:22
  doing less testing and that's a good thing 'cause they move up
• 1:06:24
  to sea. Is that is that a good thing to
• 1:06:28
  be testing less? I mean, I feel like you should
• 1:06:35
  just be on a bike regardless just to keep your your skill
• 1:06:37
  level up. I mean, as far as like going
• 1:06:40
  party testing, I, I, I brought it up before.
• 1:06:43
  It's like, I don't you know why they have like the the top right
• 1:06:47
  is testing. Well, I don't know how hard they
• 1:06:49
  go on testing, but you know, just risking yourself to get
• 1:06:52
  hurt before the season starts. So like, I know you want to test
• 1:06:55
  just to feel things out, but like, how hard?
• 1:06:57
  How far do you go with it? But yeah, I think they should
• 1:07:01
  still be involved. But like how much?
• 1:07:03
  Got you all right, Lewis, what's your thought on that?
• 1:07:07
  You know, ride is not going hard in in in testing.
• 1:07:10
  Is is the is the mechanics not going hard in Brent testing
• 1:07:14
  either? What's what's what's the deal?
• 1:07:16
  What are you thinking of Honda and their concession getting
• 1:07:19
  moving to see And also is it is it a benefit when ride when the
• 1:07:23
  factory guys can't get on the has to spend less time on the
• 1:07:26
  bike? No, I mean as a rider I want to
• 1:07:29
  spend as much time on the bike as possible.
• 1:07:31
  I want to keep constantly trying to make advances because I'd
• 1:07:34
  rather do it myself than have a test rider try to make changes
• 1:07:38
  to a bike that they're actually not going to race in.
• 1:07:41
  As the actual guy racing, I want to be the one working on the
• 1:07:45
  bike, testing and everything. So for me, moving from D to C or
• 1:07:50
  C to B makes no sense because you get more to do as AD ranked
• 1:07:57
  concession. You get more tires, you get more
• 1:07:59
  events, you get more actual riders racing on certain tracks.
• 1:08:06
  They can actually race on any GP track.
• 1:08:09
  So you can actually go to a track that maybe you struggle
• 1:08:12
  with and try to find something at that track.
• 1:08:17
  There's there's other things you can do and moving from D to C,
• 1:08:20
  like the biggest thing you lose is that private testing is
• 1:08:23
  allowed on any track by the racers.
• 1:08:27
  So you're losing. For me, I think it's you're
• 1:08:29
  losing. One of the best concessions that
• 1:08:31
  the D rank has is your actual riders can actually go and do
• 1:08:35
  actual testing on tracks that maybe they struggle and give
• 1:08:39
  actual feedback as to what they need for the bike versus your
• 1:08:43
  test rider goes out there, thinks they're putting together
• 1:08:47
  whatever they have to put together.
• 1:08:48
  And then when it comes to the actual GP riders, they're like,
• 1:08:51
  oh, this doesn't work for me anyway.
• 1:08:54
  You know, I, I think, I think Honda should have had the guy
• 1:08:59
  who put the gas in Bagnaya's bike come over and be like, hey,
• 1:09:02
  how much gas goes in these bike and let him fill the tank up for
• 1:09:06
  Luca. There you go recently your
• 1:09:09
  thoughts, man, I don't know what concessions are like in the in
• 1:09:12
  in the US and motor America and stuff like that.
• 1:09:14
  But it would seem like, you know, as you hear Louis, Louis
• 1:09:18
  suspension, it would probably make sense for Honda to want to
• 1:09:20
  stay with that deconcession so they can get more a testing
• 1:09:25
  happening or be more productive with testing.
• 1:09:29
  I mean, yeah, of course you want to get as much production as you
• 1:09:31
  can. I mean on the D, on the D side
• 1:09:33
  of it, if you're AD level, I mean you get the free spec, you
• 1:09:36
  get free engines, you get as much testing as you want, you
• 1:09:39
  get to use any GP track as much as you want that you ride on.
• 1:09:45
  The riders still get to test, but they only can test on
• 1:09:49
  sanctioned test days, not private test days as at any
• 1:09:54
  time. So that sucks instead of being
• 1:09:58
  where I can test at any time and put more like Lewis said, give
• 1:10:02
  more feedback and set the bike up to where it's rideable and
• 1:10:07
  ready for me versus using a test rider and I'm kind of going off
• 1:10:11
  of his nose instead of my own. So as far as you know, what
• 1:10:16
  Honda, I mean, I did just like a football basketball team I'd
• 1:10:20
  have I'd have tanked just to get to the D level to stay there and
• 1:10:26
  not move up. I mean, now you can't hear you
• 1:10:28
  have an engine freeze. You only get, I think it was
• 1:10:33
  instead of 260 test tires, you get 200 tires.
• 1:10:38
  You know, you only get from them instead of it's man, it's, it's
• 1:10:41
  enough out of the state at the D level just to get the
• 1:10:45
  concessions. The American is it's not, it's
• 1:10:49
  not as integer, not as technical as that.
• 1:10:52
  I mean, we do have concessions, but not nearly what the GP guys
• 1:10:56
  go through. Got you.
• 1:10:58
  OK. So what's up before we get out
• 1:11:02
  of here? Who's going to be Rookie of the
• 1:11:05
  Year next year, Top Rock or Diego?
• 1:11:07
  Top rack. That's kind of the silliest
• 1:11:10
  question. No, man.
• 1:11:12
  Come on man, not silly at all. You didn't hear, You didn't
• 1:11:17
  hear. You didn't hear what about them
• 1:11:18
  yet, did you? What?
• 1:11:21
  Who had? Ones on the Honda, ones on in
• 1:11:24
  your mind so. I mean.
• 1:11:26
  I've I've got notes already. I've got notes they said.
• 1:11:32
  They said he's took to the bike and taken to how to ride because
• 1:11:39
  you can't. He was like you can't give as
• 1:11:41
  much front brake pressure as he does on the world super bike
• 1:11:45
  stage. You can't do it.
• 1:11:47
  You got to be more a lot smoother.
• 1:11:50
  But he's taken to a very well and he's far more advanced than
• 1:11:54
  any rookie has come on the GP stage.
• 1:11:57
  It's it's, it's like a 27 year old going to high school.
• 1:11:59
  I mean, I'm just saying. It's like a 7 foot tall guy
• 1:12:03
  playing junior high school kids in basketball.
• 1:12:06
  They're 5 feet tall. I don't know why he's
• 1:12:10
  dominating. 21 so he does have that age difference experience
• 1:12:17
  that you know, it doesn't help. It ain't my fault they took me
• 1:12:22
  late. That's their fault.
• 1:12:25
  Don't, don't kill the messenger. You were ready at 21.
• 1:12:30
  It ain't my. Fault.
• 1:12:32
  Even if, I mean, I think he'll be the the rookie of the year,
• 1:12:36
  but even if he's not the rookie of the year, I think I'm 27,
• 1:12:40
  he'll be the most significant rider in 27 just because he's
• 1:12:45
  got so much more history with the tires and with the way the
• 1:12:48
  bike works with those tires. I think that's, you know, people
• 1:12:52
  keep underestimating how significant that change is.
• 1:12:56
  You know, when, when they when they went from, you know,
• 1:12:58
  Bridgestone to Michelin, it wasn't that significant a change
• 1:13:02
  because both tires are almost equally as shitty.
• 1:13:05
  I was going to say, but you know.
• 1:13:08
  Yeah, but but, you know, you went from like a really shitty
• 1:13:12
  tire to a somewhat kind of really shitty tire. 2008 man
• 1:13:16
  Rossi loved them. Bridgestone.
• 1:13:18
  So what are you talking? About Yeah, because he was
• 1:13:19
  getting a special. Set right, Right.
• 1:13:23
  He's getting a special set for that motherfucker.
• 1:13:26
  He's getting that yellow band. But you know, I think, I think
• 1:13:32
  considering, I think the guys that are going to do very
• 1:13:37
  quickly, the guys that are easily adaptable riders that
• 1:13:40
  know how to adapt riding styles, guys that are hard Breakers are
• 1:13:44
  going to benefit more from the Pirelli tires.
• 1:13:47
  So your Marc Marquez's, even your Peklebag 9 is like the guys
• 1:13:52
  that are like super hard on the brakes, they're going to benefit
• 1:13:55
  from the Pirelli's. All the guys that are coming
• 1:13:59
  from Moto 2 are going to benefit from Peparelli's because they've
• 1:14:02
  already been racing in the Pirellis.
• 1:14:04
  But all these other guys that have only ever known either
• 1:14:08
  Dunlop or Bridgestone, Michelin, those guys are going to have a
• 1:14:12
  little bit of a learning curve to get used to the change there.
• 1:14:16
  So even if he's not the rookie of the year next year, which I
• 1:14:19
  do think he's going to be the rookie of the next year, I think
• 1:14:21
  he will do very, very well in 2027.
• 1:14:23
  I think he'll be a writer to watch in 2027.
• 1:14:26
  And I don't think he'll stay on that satellite team much longer
• 1:14:29
  because if things don't change, I think there's going to be
• 1:14:32
  spots available at the factory level with Yamaha, right?
• 1:14:36
  Right with quarter hour going to Aprilia.
• 1:14:39
  And and Sideshow Bob. Oh yeah, that's true.
• 1:14:43
  What are your thoughts, P PJ on on who's going to be a rookie of
• 1:14:47
  the year? I mean, you know, Diego does
• 1:14:49
  know all the GP tracks. So that is a bus where Top Rock
• 1:14:56
  is going to have a learning curve there.
• 1:14:58
  But what do you you don't? You're saying Top Rock?
• 1:15:01
  I mean, I'm not going to say that top rack being on a BMW for
• 1:15:05
  the first time at Koda is still putting down the time that, you
• 1:15:09
  know, a lot of people can't do So yeah, I would say.
• 1:15:15
  Yeah. I would say yeah, Top Rock, You
• 1:15:19
  know, he's obviously the the icon right now going into the
• 1:15:25
  season for like everyone wants to see what he would do.
• 1:15:28
  I mean, like, I think that shit is going to be such a good year
• 1:15:30
  with him being a rookie and and the rest of the season with mark
• 1:15:36
  kind of repeat. So it's going to be a good year.
• 1:15:38
  But I think, you know, over him and Diego, they've got to be
• 1:15:43
  tough for us. You know, I mean, obviously
• 1:15:45
  Diego is, you know, Moto 2 winning now and going into Moto
• 1:15:53
  GP, but I feel like he would be learning the bike more than what
• 1:15:58
  Tom Brock has to learn to start off.
• 1:16:00
  So Tom Brock has an advantage, but who knows what testing they
• 1:16:05
  got going on. Yeah, we've had some rookies
• 1:16:07
  this year coming from Moto 2, been on a podium and even won
• 1:16:11
  races, man. Yeah, so.
• 1:16:16
  Got to believe the height. Got to believe the height for
• 1:16:18
  what I see now so. Yeah, that's where it starts.
• 1:16:21
  It always starts with the height.
• 1:16:22
  What do you think? There's only, there's only one
• 1:16:24
  rookie that's that that's won this year.
• 1:16:27
  It's only been Aldiger. Aldiger.
• 1:16:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and he's just happens to
• 1:16:31
  be on the best bike. You know, Igura came close, but
• 1:16:35
  he didn't he didn't win in the beginning of the season all.
• 1:16:40
  Right, we're ready to get that in the system.
• 1:16:44
  Yeah, so at least one. What are your thoughts, Theresa?
• 1:16:46
  You're saying top rack all the way.
• 1:16:49
  I mean, I'm going to give it the top rack over it, you know, the
• 1:16:52
  next, because just as you said, you got a 27 year old coming in,
• 1:16:59
  you know, the top that he's been there for a while.
• 1:17:02
  And then you know, he's he's one that's the rarest breed that's
• 1:17:07
  kind of took coming from stunt riding as his dad.
• 1:17:11
  And you know, he's had so much learning curve from Sir Foglu
• 1:17:15
  and everyone else. So I mean, he's kind of blended
• 1:17:19
  the lines together and he's as you know, as my uncle would say,
• 1:17:23
  he's like an anomaly. He's one of the rarest people
• 1:17:25
  you can bring up. He's like one of the back in the
• 1:17:28
  days you call an alien. So I'm I got to give it to the
• 1:17:31
  guy. I got to give it to the top rack
• 1:17:33
  man. He's the wimpy of Moto GP.
• 1:17:37
  Pretty much A7 foot 7 wingspan and seven foot guy.
• 1:17:43
  Yeah, that's him. It's.
• 1:17:45
  Not it's not even fun to watch. That's to say it's not fun to
• 1:17:47
  watch Wimby play, but he it is like, you know, the the seven
• 1:17:51
  foot kid on the playground. It is.
• 1:17:54
  It's not. It's like, it's not fun.
• 1:17:58
  So I got to give it to him, man. Hi, no doubt.
• 1:18:02
  Well, we have some things plans for the.
• 1:18:04
  You have something to say? No, no.
• 1:18:06
  Just just one last thing about like the ECMA show, because I
• 1:18:10
  was able to go to ECMA, there wasn't actually a lot of new
• 1:18:16
  stuff. Like there were a couple of
• 1:18:17
  innovations. The one thing that everybody
• 1:18:20
  seemed to be talking about was the CF Moto V4SR RRRI.
• 1:18:25
  Think it's got like 30 Rs after the S I got to see the bike up
• 1:18:31
  close. It is hideously wide like those
• 1:18:36
  that that aero package in front is not pretty.
• 1:18:38
  When you see it in person it is. That is a big wide wing in the
• 1:18:44
  front. They did keep us about, I want
• 1:18:48
  to say 4-5 feet away from it, like it was stanchioned off.
• 1:18:53
  But just from the distance you can see that where it's not 100%
• 1:18:59
  where the European bikes are at in some places it's really,
• 1:19:03
  really close, man. And this is, this bodes well for
• 1:19:08
  two things. You know, China, everybody
• 1:19:11
  thinks that everything that comes out of China is cheap.
• 1:19:13
  Not everything, a large majority is made out of Chineseium and
• 1:19:17
  the ship falls apart. But when they do want to make
• 1:19:20
  something good, they have great engineers, they know how to make
• 1:19:24
  stuff, they have the manufacturing capacity to make
• 1:19:28
  really, really great items. And if this is kind of a glimpse
• 1:19:33
  into what they can do as time goes on, I think you're going to
• 1:19:37
  end up seeing more and more CF Moto dealerships or dealers
• 1:19:41
  bringing CF Moto on as a brand because they're able to bring
• 1:19:46
  bikes to the market that aren't just cool and have like great
• 1:19:50
  technology and everything else. But their price point are is
• 1:19:54
  very competitive. Yeah, it seems like they're
• 1:19:57
  doing what Ducati's doing, but the low end version.
• 1:20:01
  They're doing the category. They're doing the Walmart
• 1:20:03
  Ducati. Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  Like they're, that's pretty much what they're doing.
• 1:20:07
  Like, we're not Mercedes-Benz, we're Kia.
• 1:20:10
  Yeah. But we're going to make, we're
• 1:20:12
  going to make a really, really good Kia.
• 1:20:14
  It's not a Mercedes. But.
• 1:20:17
  I test rode. I test rode the 675 R at at at
• 1:20:22
  CF motor. Works.
• 1:20:24
  Yeah, and when I went to Jersey, I test rode.
• 1:20:26
  Yeah, it's a quick shifter. And it was pretty.
• 1:20:30
  It was pretty nice. I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:20:32
  I mean, like, it's not like what you would really expect, but
• 1:20:35
  like, it was solid. I can't lie.
• 1:20:38
  It's not refined yet, but again, this is another little kind of
• 1:20:42
  like shot across the bow of the Japanese manufacturers that, you
• 1:20:48
  know, you've got another player in the market.
• 1:20:51
  We're going to make a push to try to get into these because CF
• 1:20:53
  Moto has been expanding in third world countries in like the
• 1:20:58
  larger developing nations because that's bring their bread
• 1:21:00
  and butter under 150CC moped scooters and everything.
• 1:21:05
  But if this is kind of, again, a glimpse into what they're
• 1:21:08
  thinking of developing as they go forward, I think it's
• 1:21:11
  significant. One, because we need more
• 1:21:14
  affordable motorcycles that have a little bit more punch.
• 1:21:18
  You know, if I have a choice between buying a $13,000 R 9 or
• 1:21:22
  $13,000 CF Moto that's going to outperform an R9, I'm going to
• 1:21:27
  buy ACF Moto. Or if ACF Moto V4 ends up being
• 1:21:31
  $13,000 and my choice is that or an R9, like you know, I'm going
• 1:21:35
  to buy the CF Moto like I'm going to give it the chance.
• 1:21:39
  You'll be in the back of them dance halls in the dark, huh?
• 1:21:42
  Yeah, them big things gotta. Get.
• 1:21:45
  You know about that? You just gotta, you know, just
• 1:21:49
  gotta leave before the lights go on, that's all.
• 1:21:50
  That's. It.
• 1:21:54
  Or. You gotta leave.
• 1:21:56
  Yourself in the darkness. You better leave well before the
• 1:22:01
  lights come on, boy. Either actual darkness or
• 1:22:04
  artificial darkness. You just got to get to that
• 1:22:06
  point, man. And there is that fine line
• 1:22:09
  between liquor and I'm taking that thing home.
• 1:22:17
  It's called ACF Moto. That's ACF Moto baby.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah, so that that well, yeah, they also have the BMW coming
• 1:22:27
  out the F the the 450 adventure bike as well That was there.
• 1:22:32
  That looks to be like a cool parallel twin.
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  And. Go ahead.
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  No. So I was tired, but also from
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  what I've heard and been told, I have no loyalty to this brand.
• 1:22:44
  For any of the guys out there that is on that once the ZX14
• 1:22:50
  Chowie is not announcing this shit, but this is their last
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  year for this ZX14. They are not bringing it back no
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  more. It is done.
• 1:22:59
  Speaking of the bigs. It is done they.
• 1:23:05
  Don't want to compete with the booster no more, I see.
• 1:23:09
  They are not even telling people, they just fully bowing
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  out. So he got tired of paying the
• 1:23:15
  shipping for that big ass bike. For those that want it might
• 1:23:20
  want to go get it. No doubt, no doubt.
• 1:23:24
  Well, guys, I want to thank you for coming on folks out there.
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  subscribing and all doing all that fun stuff.
• 1:23:33
  We have some neat stuff to talk about in offseason, so keep it
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  locked to the show. We're not going anywhere.
• 1:23:40
  Even though Moto GP is not on air, we still have, there's a
• 1:23:44
  lot of things to talk about. So then we keep it locked.
• 1:23:46
  I want to thank Louis coming on TJ Reese.
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  It's the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45. Peace, peace, peace.