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Did He Fake it To Make it ? Shimi Jay's Untold Story · None of Your Business Podcast

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  It says Barasi ET tahara, Barasi Teri Tablo.
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  We created the the ET tahara. The Tyra is the antidote to
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  fight the to fight the ET tahara.
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  What if you don't learn sucks Miracle mahibbish that a Mahziki
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  Terra someone who supports Tyra has the same antidote.
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  That's what he told me. So when I'll kill him, Miracle
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  sitting there, I told him. I'll kill.
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  I got to give a lot more to. Business Oshi none of your
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  business Michael, it's the None of your Business podcast hosted
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  by Michael and Oshi. Welcome back everybody to
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  another incredible episode of the None of your Business
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  podcast. I'm your host, Michael
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  Greenfield and with me today is a special Co host.
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  Rib you see. Churns, how are you?
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  Rib you see what episode was it that you were on our podcast?
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  Do you remember? It's none of your business.
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  I think it was like the 3rd or 4th.
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  The 3rd or 4th and and can you tell the difference?
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  Well, right away when I walked and I see it's on the opposite
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  side of the room. Everything was switched over and
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  now it's like chairs. It's this is this is the way a
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  podcast is supposed to be? I feel like I need her do over
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  you. Know what this could be your
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  semi do over. And today we have with us, you
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  know, she likes to say this word and I'm going to use it.
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  The venerable, the incredible, the quality human being of a
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  person of Shimmy J. And I say Reb because I've
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  learned so much from you and I'm so excited to have you here.
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  Welcome, Shimmy. Thank you, Michael.
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  I appreciate it. By the way, my last name is
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  Jacob Witz for people that don't know, but Jay is short because
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  Jacob Witz is like, very mouthfully.
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  Is there another last name that you think anyone would have
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  thought it was? I mean, I think like everyone
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  knows, it's not just. Jacobson.
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  Jacobson. OK.
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  Good 1A singer Mendy Jay and he's is it.
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  Yeah, I always thought there you go.
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  That's 'cause Shimmy already took Jay as the names like some
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  J means Shimmy Jay. Everybody knows that.
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  A big shout out to all of our followers and thank God, I say
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  this to she every week in the past 3-4 weeks that we've been
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  growing. And it's kind of astonishing to
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  see like, you know, growth in social media world means just
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  numbers. But to us, it means people
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  talking about it and just seeing us on the streets and seeing
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  what a beautiful guest you had and what a great story you had
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  and what an impact it had in my life.
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  And I just heard your first podcast.
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  Oh my God, that's you. And it's been incredible.
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  So that's why I picked that word for today.
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  And thank you to Prime Source again, our sponsors.
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  I mentioned it earlier before we officially started, but I want
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  to mention it again. Thank you to the team of Prime
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  Source, Prime Source production team.
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  Stephen Will Stephen, by the way, is not just the men behind
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  the scenes. He's literally the guy running
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  the show, so he'll have ChatGPT up in a minute.
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  Shimmy if you have any questions for him on the screen.
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  Where's the screen? Over there.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we took a pager from
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  other podcasters, learning what to do, what not to do.
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  Let's get started, if you don't mind.
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  You know, I, I appreciate you being here so much on a much of
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  Shabbos. But I first want to say, what
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  are you so busy with that? It's got to be like, you know of
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  a subunnam time, like you know what's going on.
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  Normally on a regular weekend, yeah, on a on a month of Shabbos
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  or on a during the week. Why I was I so busy?
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  1st I want to know tonight what happened like what's the night?
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  No, no tonight you, you got freed.
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  You got freed. What's on a normal months of
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  Shabbos is what I'm asking. You normal to Shabbos?
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  I'm usually at home. I like going, just spend time at
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  home with the family, gets to sleep and get an early night
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  because people don't realize that your whole week depends on
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  your weekend. If your weekend is restful, you
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  have a restful week. People have this thing.
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  Saturday night, you go out, I'm gonna have a good time, meet
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  with friends. You know, it's for me.
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  I like to go to early night, then have a good Sunday and then
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  the week is really good. I gotta be.
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  Honest with you it's more meaningful for me now that
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  you're here I'm sorry I thought you sorry I thought you doing
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  comes it isn't parties and fundraisers and Thursday hanging
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  out with. Thursday night is my Mata
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  Chavez. There you go.
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  Okay. Thursday night on the Mata
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  Chavez. Okay, it's good to know.
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  So I really appreciate it. Of course I wanna hear about
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  everything you're busy with in general, but before we do for
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  our audience, we have this thing we do called ChatGPT, said.
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  What about you? Oh boy.
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  So did you ever do it on yourself?
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  To be honest, I. Have googled it, not ChatGPT
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  really. Yes.
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  OK, so I'm I'm getting ready to start and.
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  Starting to sweat? Stefan just printed this out for
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  me two minutes ago so it's fresh hot off the press.
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  Literally Shimmy J just doesn't do chesed.
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  He accidentally sponsors ACM every time he checks his phone.
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  You're joking? No, you said that or you just
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  wrote that. I might be telling Chad GBT what
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  to say, but. But.
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  I mean, what's what's that about?
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  What's going on there? Are you, are you sponsoring CMS?
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  Are you ACM guy? So it.
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  Happens to be that This is funny.
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  A bunch of years ago I got these.
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  I'll start getting these calls. Spam calls from Bachmann
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  Aristora asking me to sponsor the CMS and this it was like AI
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  think they got a list of a lot of guys who give Tadaka and they
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  would call and ask the sponsor CM and I got down to the bottom
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  of it. I was doing a whole like
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  investigation who this person was finally got his name and I
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  got him to agree to come to Lakewood.
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  He actually lived in Lakewood. He came home from Beta's modem
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  and I said if you tell me who you are, I will actually sponsor
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  the CM and we went and it actually was a beautiful CM.
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  We got you who the green we got delicious.
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  I think a lot bite. We had like 100 Bachram singing
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  and dancing and it was an amazing experience.
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  So that's how when it started, I think it was the last one I did
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  because then I got every Bachar was decided.
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  Clearly not. Why it says that this is what
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  you do? I did it once.
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  OK, you know if you I'm, I'm assuming that was the beginning
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  of it. That was the beginning.
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  But no. But I I think when it comes to
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  the Bacharam, it's a very unique way to deal with bacharam
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  nowadays. I think us growing up, like we
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  were not even afterthought, like the Balbatan didn't even look at
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  the Bahram. I think the Bahram nowadays need
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  a lot more attention. And I think yes, and I'm sure
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  yourself and me for sure, I like to give a lot of special time to
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  the Bahram because they are the future and we're in a
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  generation. We are our future is so
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  important. And if you don't give the time
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  to the kids and the Bahram, they feel left down.
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  They feel terrible about themselves.
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  So I make it a real, real emphasis to give buckram when I
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  see them at a wedding, give them a hug, take a selfie with them.
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  Make them feel special instead of being about boss like I'm
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  too. I can't talk to the younger
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  generation. I like try to bring them.
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  Buckram is based madrich age. I'm sorry.
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  Balkan could be anywhere between teenage grade and teenage BMG.
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  But so for those non Jews listening, yeah Balkarim is
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  teenage teenage boys, but that are studying and learning,
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  talking. Shimmy is also very, very
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  approachable. You know, he's something that
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  people feel comfortable to go to.
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  I'll tell you just personally, I, I, you know, my son told me
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  that he had a business idea and he called up Shimmy and, or he
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  texted the guy speak to you right away.
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  Shimmy said. Oh are you?
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  Is this like an ask for charity? How old was he?
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  No. It was a year ago.
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  How old's your kid? I was a kid. 24 years.
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  Old. Oh, OK.
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  So, so he said, no, it's not because wow, you're probably the
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  first person who was like asking to speak to me.
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  And it's not for a charity cause.
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  And it was a business thing. And I don't know what it even
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  was. What this I don't know.
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  It was. Like a real estate idea.
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  Yeah. But the point though, is that.
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  He wanted to bring to the healthcare space.
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  The point, though, is that Shimmy takes these calls from
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  these people, so, you know, yeah, he was joking.
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  What is it 'cause he assumes most of them are for charity or
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  see him or something, but he's approachable.
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  Like my son was comfortable to call him because he's someone
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  who's not going to hang up on you.
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  He's not going to make you feel stupid that you called him.
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  He's going to give you the time of day.
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  And he's he's very, very approachable.
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  What's? His cell phone number.
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  I'm sorry. 732 none of your business had to get it in.
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  By the way, you only got one in episode, so you're done.
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  By the way, done. It's like he's very
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  approachable. Yeah, Yeah, you're done.
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  Now, the fact that you're approachable and thank you for
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  saying that story because it's it literally triggered me a
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  memory of us being younger. We're similar age and when we
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  grew up as Bahram teenagers, right.
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  I think that what I remember is the people that didn't behave
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  got all the attention and you know, like it, it was a
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  transition like, you know, I didn't have that, but I saw that
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  the next generation had that. And I think that now the ones
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  that are behaving are getting attention from Someone Like You.
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  It's a really nice thing, right, right.
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  That's what that's what that's the way I'm looking at it.
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  Like you're giving positive attention to the ones that are
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  doing well, the ones that are behaving, of course.
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  Now, by the way, thank you Tsvi Glock, thank you Sonny Perlman,
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  thank you Gadalia Fenster and everyone for what you're doing
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  and, you know, and, and carrying that.
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  But there's so much weight that's there for regular boys,
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  even girls, obviously you know that.
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  Just need a place to chill 100. Percent maybe?
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  Uplift, chill, need a hug? Obviously in the most
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  appropriate ways. Most people get a random text
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  and ignore it. Jimmy gets a random text and
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  turns it into a hundred person comes it's.
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  I don't know where this is taking it from, but.
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  He's not writing this himself. Yeah, he's come from Chachi PT.
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  You're yeah, that's crazy. Just I I just put this in Chachi
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  PT 17 minutes ago. That's crazy.
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  What what's the story with comes like UC and I are both obviously
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  comes as fans. I I guess that means you are
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  also do you do large what you sponsor large ones?
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  What's the deal? So I think it's coming from
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  Pesach. This past year I was in Orlando
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  and we had just wanted to hang out with the guys We.
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  You built your own program. I basically built my own program
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  but it was like the music part and the cums part was by
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  mistake. Like I didn't invite anyone.
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  I invited like a few friends and then one guy Bucker came or
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  teenager kid came and he invited his friends and by the 4th night
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  we had like 200 people rocking. I send you footage that you
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  could like upload. These is it fair to say that
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  that was like your coming out party to like the next level?
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  To the next level could be, but I think yeah, could be.
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  In other words, that. You know my birthday.
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  No. Well, I knew you told me.
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  Actually, I, you know. I know you for years.
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  I know you. Different stages of your life,
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  you know. The Kaplan boy, how back how
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  back are we going by the? Way not for me as a kid, not
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  when he was a kid. He was in Lake when I was in
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  when. He was a bucker.
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  But he was a bucker. Then he got married.
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  By the way, look at that. We both right.
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  We both were married to a Cleveland girl.
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  Both Cleveland. Like he married someone from
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  Cleveland's first wife and I'm my wife's from Cleveland.
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  I knew who he was. Then he started to get involved
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  in SHADO him. I knew then who you know my wife
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  is involved in SHADO him right and then I really got to know
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  him when I was involved with gateways at that point, I don't
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  know if I still I think I'm still working there and used to
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  comprehensive and used to Rosh Hashanah, Rosh Hashanah Schwiss
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  at that point, I don't think you were sitting at my table yet,
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  but I think after what I would come back already when I was on
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  his board. Then you start to sit at my
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  table different bottle every time a tequila you introduced me
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  to that tequila with the with the silver.
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  That's right, but to me it was always I know he was always a
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  great guy and I always thought of you as successful and and it
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  was only recently I was sitting with you by a wedding and you
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  told me no, no, that was the fake it till you make it days.
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  Now. Then there was something that
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  was a transition. I got into other things and you
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  know I'm here. So that's my question if like
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  your real coming out party to the world was, I saw the clips
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  on pace. I saw them.
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  They were all over the place. They look great.
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  But I always thought that you were doing these things because
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  you're always flying to get always courtside, right?
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  You're always courtside within the games.
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  You know, this wasn't your first time flying private.
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  Probably you flew private before that.
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  No, probably so but, but this was the first time that I
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  actually saw that you was out there like that, right.
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  And and and I knew a lot of the cast that you had there and a
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  lot of the cast had been in my house and they're not guys who
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  are paying their way. So, so no good guys, but.
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  By the way, yes, he's paying attention.
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  You're saying So he's been paying attention to your life.
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  I watched the compliment. But I didn't know.
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  But you know, it's not like I thought anything changed.
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  I thought this is how you always, always.
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  To me, that's all you always. Happens to be it was.
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  I think the generation is just getting more WhatsApp and people
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  are posting more. It just was less.
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  It was less out there, right? But I don't think that was the
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  first time that I've done such things.
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  I think really, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I think it just got more out. There, but it was very out there
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  and I also saw the cast of characters there who I know that
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  look, they were just probably looking for a great show that
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  that doesn't cost them and it was an.
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  Open house policy. And then I was thinking, how do
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  I get on this list? I like to go back on what he
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  said a minute ago. The whole fake it till you make
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  it thing is that was that part of your life.
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  I think it was a subconscious thing.
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  I don't know if I had a plan, like let's fake it.
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  The whole sensible marketing of, you know, we're, I'm a marketing
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  company. That's how I started.
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  You know, my first company was sensible marketing and marketing
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  is about, you know, portraying an image.
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  Now, obviously sometimes you have to embellish or be more out
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  there, sponsor things, even if you have to take out a loan And
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  but you still part that's part of growth, part part of growing
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  a business. And I think I did a lot of, you
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  know, out there things before I was able to afford it, but then
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  after doing it consistently for so, so, so, so long, it ended up
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  working out and, you know, the right.
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  Thing sounds more like you, the right thing, you.
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  Manifested, manifested it, and really like the right
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  opportunity started coming when the platform was built.
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  Would you say that the opportunities came because you
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  had this marketing? 100%, one million percent, I
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  don't think that I will be able to sit there again.
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  It's all from a sham. But I think the the style of
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  this part was having the platform of sensible marketing,
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  so people who all the opportunities were able to come
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  and also doing the sponsorships. A lot of people want to be
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  connected to positive things. When you sponsor a song from
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  Matt Dub, I sponsored his song. People saw this guy's doing
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  good. I sponsored a see him that's
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  doing good again. Was I faking it?
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  I really wanted to do it, but doing the good came back 10 or
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  100. I'm shocked by the way I never
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  heard in my life, and I'm proud of you, of someone who takes a
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  loan to sponsor something which means it's so meaningful.
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  If I took a loan or something but OK, I took a loan to hire
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  people I. Think OK, it's not a crazy idea
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  though. Right, but I took a loan to
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  grow. We built the brand and 100% sure
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  and I will say it till today, people out there be responsible
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  if you. Take cameras right there.
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  Be responsible if you're taking a loan, but if you have the
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  right hedgeman and the right idea, don't be scared.
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  Just make sure you pay it back. Everybody knows about sensible
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  marketing. No, actually, that's the next
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  thing on Chachi Peti. His business is called Sensible
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  because apparently ridiculously successful and still ate Sadiq
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  was taken. This was Chachi Peti.
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  Tell me about sensible When did you start?
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  What is sensible? Let's go back a little bit.
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  Let's learn a little bit about you and take a pause on this.
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  ChatGPT is a lot of exciting things.
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  They were. Like you guys wrote this out,
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  this is. Not chat.
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  You can check it out on this. Phone unbelievable.
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  I love it. It's I'm.
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  Gonna ChatGPT after. This obviously just for those
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  who are wondering because I've gotten this question a few
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  times. I've told ChatGPT make it
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  punchy, make it interesting, smart and funny.
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  That's it. And I rely on it and I read it
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  out right as a print it. Yeah.
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  So it's just. So sensible marketing was an
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  idea. I was started off at a company
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  called Ditmus Park Rehab. I know Ditmus Park Park, the
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  Strikers, the Ober Ober Zimberlanders, Oberlanders.
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  OK. Actually, I have to go back.
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  I started off with first with Kenny Rosenberg and Moshe
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  Edelman back in amazing home care.
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  That's when I got into. Health.
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  I asked Kenny to come on the podcast, by the way.
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  Yeah. And he says, me, what's a
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  podcast? I'm like you're kidding.
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  We'll do it if you do it on a loud.
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  Maybe he would come. I wish.
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  I, I hosted you for a shrewess and at that point you weren't in
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  healthcare. In fact, I was in foreclosures
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  then and you were talking, we were talking about maybe in
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  Texas to do something together in foreclosures.
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  At that point, you weren't doing healthcare yet.
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  So I started off selling baby strollers.
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  There we go. I was this real, I swear.
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  Oh, I was when I left yeshiva I started off doing.
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  The first job, the. First job Heskey Stanger saw me
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  in Starbucks and he said to me do you want to come work for me
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  doing short sales? This is like a 2011 maybe 12 and
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  I went and banged out on the phone calling people in pre
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  foreclosure and got like 100 listings.
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  We sold a bunch of houses. How many calls a day?
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  5060 calls a day with Nexus, Lexus, whatever it's called
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  Nexus that you could get, Nexus, whatever that call we would call
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  people. By the way, dangerous.
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  Very dangerous. Nobody should get a hold of
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  that. I mean, like, it's a payable
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  thing that attorneys use. Yes.
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  That tells you your neighbors how much their income is.
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  And really, Yeah, it's, it's crazy.
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  Telephone number and their house number.
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  And. Maybe how much?
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  There were systems back then that would tell you, and I'm
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  sure it's still existed. I've seen with my own eyes, you
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  put in an address and it tells you all your neighbors Social
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  Security numbers, date of births, children, annual well
• 15:42
  income. Crazy, crazy stuff.
• 15:44
  This is 20 years ago, but anyways, go.
• 15:46
  Ahead, I would start off at Westmark Realty.
• 15:47
  I did that for a year or two and then.
• 15:50
  How much did you? Make getting to draw $500 a draw
• 15:53
  a week, $500 a week a draw and. You were married at the time.
• 15:57
  No single OK. No, it's his first job.
• 15:59
  First job out of out of Kylo. I think I was learning half.
• 16:02
  Today, I'm sorry, you're you're we'll get back to it later, But
• 16:04
  your lifestyle is yeshivish. That's how you grew up.
• 16:06
  I grew up yeshivish. Lakewood yes, OK, $500 a week.
• 16:10
  The problem was that when I closed the deal, I had to go
• 16:13
  towards the draw. So I felt like I was never
• 16:15
  making money because I was just basically always paying back the
• 16:18
  draw. So that's when I went.
• 16:19
  I said I wanted a nine to five job.
• 16:21
  I went to work at this place called Pettishore doing cold
• 16:25
  calling every veterinarian, veterinarian in the country.
• 16:28
  Do you want to buy pet insurance?
• 16:29
  And after seven days I was ready to jump off a roof.
• 16:32
  So I said I'm out, I'm not going to be here.
• 16:34
  And I went to work for a guy named Bernard Warman at a place
• 16:36
  called Pish Posh Baby, and I was selling strollers, baby
• 16:39
  strollers. Retail in a store.
• 16:41
  We were online, so harder off. I was imagining pregnant women
• 16:45
  coming in no first. It was like the first online.
• 16:48
  It was like, you know, we did a lot of.
• 16:50
  Like Amazon type of stuff. But no, it was direct from Pitch
• 16:52
  Watch baby. But we would like get the all
• 16:54
  the the all the, you know, mommy.
• 16:56
  So they were an established company and you were coming in
• 16:58
  and helping them? I was.
• 16:59
  There doing got it keep going and product development OK and
• 17:01
  in six months I was there having a great time working hard making
• 17:04
  salary 6 grand a year thank you felt like I was AI love how
• 17:07
  you're. Reading my mind by the way,
• 17:08
  answer the question as I'm having.
• 17:09
  It's great, great synergy. That's Michael.
• 17:12
  That's why you are good at what you do, because you're doing
• 17:15
  this at enough times you already know your.
• 17:16
  People, I've been doing this for 47 years, yes.
• 17:20
  Literally 47, yeah. Because without lights and
• 17:22
  cameras, Parcosham continue. And you lost a lot of weight.
• 17:26
  Thank God, thank God. When I hit three O 1, that's
• 17:28
  when you went. That's when I put the balls
• 17:29
  behind my ears. But that's a separate.
• 17:31
  Story The balls behind the ears. Yes, yes, I've been rubbing my
• 17:33
  balls for six months straight and it helped me lose 62 lbs and
• 17:37
  then I lost my gallbladder. But literally it's another
• 17:39
  story. Thank you for that.
• 17:40
  Because I owned that company, I promise some partners.
• 17:42
  With Satkin, yeah, you see, you know, I he's a partner, you see,
• 17:46
  by the way, you see is right. We got to have him back on the
• 17:48
  podcast, you see. Shimmy's a Co host.
• 17:51
  Alcohol you by the way, No problem.
• 17:52
  OK, Done, committed, committed, done.
• 17:54
  Great. You see the rest of that?
• 17:57
  No, no, I want the Thursday night.
• 18:00
  We'll do a comesis and then. Followed by a podcast.
• 18:02
  We can see him with this. I think the amazing, I think the
• 18:05
  amazing part of the three of us just sitting here is that we all
• 18:07
  know that in exactly 1 hour we're getting up and we're going
• 18:10
  to have a Comesis all night celebrating Shabbos of Arkham.
• 18:14
  I love him. Alka Leyland is my mother, my
• 18:17
  father. It's her birthday.
• 18:18
  It's the highest. Sorry, that was her name, but
• 18:20
  anyways, continue. So basically Pitch Bash baby was
• 18:23
  great. I was dating a girl at the time
• 18:25
  and she said to me, you have more potential than sitting
• 18:28
  behind the desk selling baby strollers.
• 18:29
  Maybe you should go meet with Moshe Edelman, my
• 18:31
  brother-in-law, and get an interview.
• 18:34
  Hired me on the spot. Six months doing home care
• 18:37
  sales. I went for a raise.
• 18:39
  I was making 40 grand. I went from 36 grand to 40 grand
• 18:41
  and I was a real good view. I got an Avalon and.
• 18:43
  Loved the Avalon paid by the company.
• 18:45
  No. Paid by you.
• 18:47
  That's the cheap Lexus, by the way.
• 18:49
  They tell me no raise, I said. What do you mean?
• 18:52
  I wish I wanted a couple, you know, extra.
• 18:53
  Fun we do well, I'm. Doing very well.
• 18:55
  I should have gotten a raise. They didn't want to give me a
• 18:57
  raise. And then Abe Krauss and Ellie
• 18:58
  Frankel hired me. I knew it extended care.
• 19:00
  No way. Yes, Brahmi and Ellie.
• 19:02
  Brahmi and Ellie amazing their. First thing and I had no idea
• 19:05
  how to market a nursing home. No idea.
• 19:07
  Hold on a second. That's where we probably first
• 19:09
  met. I, I did all the purchasing with
• 19:10
  them for when the Panets were there.
• 19:12
  I did it and then when they sold it to them, I took over and
• 19:15
  that's when I got to meet those two amazing people.
• 19:17
  By the way, love them each and. A funny story, and I say this
• 19:20
  over a lot, I was working in the air.
• 19:22
  They gave me even more. I got 80 grand salary and six
• 19:26
  months in I've got the census up 10%.
• 19:28
  I learned the business on the fly and no idea what I was
• 19:30
  doing, but I googled what's short term care, long term care,
• 19:33
  what's a what's a referral And then Abe and he takes credit
• 19:37
  till today he called me up. He said, Shimmy, are you in the
• 19:41
  hospital? I said I'm on the way to the
• 19:42
  hospital. He saw me in the pizza shop
• 19:44
  eating lunch. I was leaving to go to the
• 19:45
  hospital. He said you're fired and he
• 19:48
  fired me. And since and then from that I
• 19:51
  went on to the miss. Park Did I miss something?
• 19:52
  What's in the hospital? No, no what?
• 19:54
  Happened wondering if I was rounding in the hospital.
• 19:56
  I'm like, what? Did something happen to you?
• 19:58
  OK, OK, I was. Getting lunch.
• 19:59
  But he felt that I wasn't, he thought.
• 20:00
  He was lying to him. He thought I wasn't being
• 20:02
  truthful and I was in the I said I'm on the way to the hospital.
• 20:04
  I was middle eating lunch. I was on the way.
• 20:06
  Fired me till today. He takes credit, he said.
• 20:09
  If I didn't fire you, you still be at the Newark extended care
• 20:12
  making 80 grand a year. Ah, that's.
• 20:14
  Great. I've heard you in the past say
• 20:16
  this story, but you've said it better.
• 20:18
  See now you said you were actually on the way to the
• 20:19
  hospital and the other ones. No, he didn't.
• 20:21
  He said I'm getting ready to go. Getting ready to go.
• 20:24
  The way I've heard you say in the past, you're saying that,
• 20:26
  you know, look, you know, I actually was it was, you know, I
• 20:29
  was taking it easy and I was doing it and and he he caught me
• 20:33
  and but but you what you were saying in the the point was that
• 20:36
  you never know what you think is the worst thing in the world.
• 20:38
  You imagine him after, you know, he was caught in a lie, right?
• 20:41
  We've all done this, right. Where are you at different
• 20:44
  levels of your life? You know you have a boss and.
• 20:46
  By the way, in his mind, it's not a lie.
• 20:47
  I have friends that tell me this whole time I'm on the way to the
• 20:49
  hospital. I'm eating, but I'm on the way.
• 20:51
  I'm saying to me like, I've done this myself and I would think
• 20:54
  I'm lying, you know? But why?
• 20:55
  Because I have my own country by this side, right?
• 20:57
  You don't pay me by the hour, you pay me to get the job done.
• 20:59
  I have a full day in. I'm taking my time eating lunch
• 21:01
  and I don't need to micromanage me.
• 21:03
  And you're asking me questions. Oh yeah, I'm working right.
• 21:06
  And happens to be he caught him and he caught him not.
• 21:09
  But what he thought probably at that point was like the worst
• 21:12
  moment of his life that I just went from strollers at 36,000.
• 21:16
  I worked my way up to 80,000 now.
• 21:18
  And now. And now it's all gone.
• 21:19
  Pay the Avalon bill, right, It's all.
• 21:21
  Gone. That was your biggest.
• 21:22
  That really was your biggest. Blessing.
• 21:23
  It was really rough, but it was the biggest blessing because
• 21:25
  that Nathan Freund. Told me to tell me what
• 21:28
  happened. Nothing.
• 21:29
  He fired me. What'd you do?
• 21:31
  Six weeks. What'd you do?
• 21:32
  What'd you do? He lied, I get it.
• 21:33
  What did you do after he fired you?
• 21:35
  How did you find another job? I.
• 21:36
  Started telling you, Yeah. Nathan Freund called me up.
• 21:40
  My uncle Yossi Bernfeld. You not understand what I'm
• 21:43
  asking. You get fired and you're sitting
• 21:46
  there in middle of your lunch and you're eating.
• 21:48
  What did you do? Oh, right after.
• 21:49
  That what? How was your life like?
• 21:51
  You just got fired bro. Probably went home and cried a
• 21:53
  little bit, maybe slid on the couch.
• 21:55
  I don't know. I was on it was it was a rough.
• 21:58
  Time I'd like to talk about it. OK, I wanna hear.
• 22:00
  I wonder the exact it happens it people get fired and it happens
• 22:03
  and I'm saying the way you recover is everything right So.
• 22:05
  So that's what I wanna. One thing I gotta say, they gave
• 22:07
  me 6 weeks pay. OK, I knew I had six weeks to
• 22:10
  deal with it. Got it.
• 22:11
  So I wasn't. But I remember going home and
• 22:12
  being very sad. Talk to my father about it and
• 22:15
  right away I went into mode let's let's go what's the next
• 22:18
  thing so my. So you reached out to Nathan
• 22:20
  Freund. Uncle told me Nathan Freund is
• 22:21
  looking for a marketer. He went.
• 22:24
  And good for you, by the way. It took you minutes, you cried,
• 22:26
  and then you got back on the horse.
• 22:27
  And you. That's what I'm saying.
• 22:28
  That's what I wanted to hear. Yeah, that's what I was curious.
• 22:30
  We didn't get into a hole. That's what I'm saying, yes.
• 22:33
  But when I got divorced, I was also very, very down.
• 22:35
  I don't even know that you were divorced, and I'd love to get
• 22:37
  into that. So we'll talk about.
• 22:39
  Let's go back now. We're going to go through the
• 22:40
  timeline. Continue.
• 22:41
  Yeah. This is after my divorce that.
• 22:43
  Was already after you so. After my divorce, we.
• 22:45
  Was learning. He was still learning while he
• 22:46
  was married. OK, I didn't realize.
• 22:47
  OK, continue. Yeah.
• 22:48
  Yeah. So you were in Kyla?
• 22:49
  I was. In Kyla for four years, I looked
• 22:51
  I. Learned.
• 22:52
  How did you skip that? We were in pitch.
• 22:53
  Bosh, Where was this? I'm in Kaplan and then I.
• 22:56
  Looked in Long Beach. I looked.
• 22:57
  Oh, after Kyla, your first job was a 30,000?
• 22:59
  I thought you were a buckler to work in.
• 23:01
  No, no, no, Kylo. Guys, I'm not a liquid guy.
• 23:06
  I honestly, one of the main reasons why I appreciate that
• 23:09
  you're here is I, you know, people don't really know this,
• 23:12
  but I, I, they'll realize it subconsciously once a month.
• 23:15
  I have a healthcare guest. It's just automatic.
• 23:18
  And because we put it in our newsletter and we want the
• 23:20
  newsletter to be healthcare related, the other three weeks
• 23:23
  are playful. Like I can get whoever I want
• 23:25
  when you know, someone in my space, my energy, it could be a
• 23:27
  baseball player, could be a therapist, it could be a, you
• 23:29
  know, Tadaka collector for like here, someone who's interesting.
• 23:32
  I've never had Lakewood and I've been thinking about Lakewood for
• 23:35
  a long time. I don't know Lakewood.
• 23:36
  I don't understand it. I don't get it it.
• 23:38
  I'm not from there. I grew up in Brooklyn.
• 23:40
  I'm Israelis, half Israeli. I live in Muncie, so I don't get
• 23:44
  Lakewood. So I always wanted you to be
• 23:45
  here. So to me, this is like a, a, a
• 23:47
  Grand Slam because I got you here.
• 23:49
  Healthcare, your healthcare, your Lakewood.
• 23:51
  You're friends with me, and you see you're in.
• 23:53
  And it's the fun. Also the rest of the three
• 23:55
  weeks. I'm sorry, I didn't mean, I
• 23:57
  didn't mean to interrupt, but I just want you to know.
• 23:58
  So I don't really know. So I really know.
• 23:59
  So I really want to go back to that for 10 seconds.
• 24:01
  Just tell me who How are you? You were in Kylo, OK.
• 24:04
  So that's the the the 32nd. Yeah, please.
• 24:06
  Yeah. But it just got back to where we
• 24:07
  were. But.
• 24:07
  Jakowitz was born in Lakewood, went to Long Beach to Shiva,
• 24:11
  went to Hemi Kaplan. These are got.
• 24:13
  Married. Went to.
• 24:14
  We'll get back to it later, but continue.
• 24:16
  Yeah. Went to Central Miami's Kylo,
• 24:17
  came back to BMG, learned to BMG, was a shotsman for 18
• 24:20
  months, made 36. Got divorced, Went to pitch Bosh
• 24:24
  baby. Beautiful.
• 24:26
  Thank you. No, I really appreciate that.
• 24:27
  We'll get back to it later. So continue now.
• 24:29
  So that's the Nathan Freund. Nathan Freund gave me a great
• 24:31
  opportunity. He gave me a signing bonus.
• 24:33
  He really taught me the ropes on.
• 24:37
  The another super duper guy by the great guy.
• 24:39
  Nathan, shout out to Nathan Freund, you're the best.
• 24:41
  Thank you for everything, really.
• 24:42
  So he really taught me the business.
• 24:45
  We went to the hospitals together and we became like this
• 24:48
  team. We turned it Miss Park from a,
• 24:51
  you know, oh. He was the administrator
• 24:52
  administrator at Miss Park. Yeah, so we.
• 24:55
  My goodness guys, for those of you that don't know the nursing
• 24:57
  home industry, you have to understand this is a young
• 24:59
  administrator working for a Hasidasha family in Borough Park
• 25:03
  who owned one nursing home. It's their prized possession and
• 25:06
  they've had that facility for 100 years, probably passed down
• 25:09
  generations. Promised 3000.
• 25:11
  Years and Nathan Freund was yet a another administrator.
• 25:14
  This facility went through administrators every two years.
• 25:16
  So Nathan Forint comes in, he's another administrator and he
• 25:18
  hires you for marketing. Suddenly the Dream Team is being
• 25:21
  created in Borough Park. Unbelievable.
• 25:24
  Did Miss Park continue? Yes.
• 25:26
  So we crushed it. We did like a year and a half,
• 25:28
  two years together. How much money did you make for
• 25:30
  them? A lot.
• 25:31
  I want to know numbers. We went from I don't know the
• 25:33
  exact numbers. Tell me how many Medicare
• 25:35
  patients? We went from 20 Medicare's when
• 25:37
  we came, when we came in with like 30 open beds to 80
• 25:40
  Medicares with the waiting limit.
• 25:41
  Yeah. So you do the numbers.
• 25:43
  No, no, no. Do the numbers, please.
• 25:45
  I want you to do well. You know Medicare.
• 25:47
  How much Medicare? I'll tell you.
• 25:48
  Know how to fill beds and service.
• 25:49
  No, stop it. You must know that Medicare is 3
• 25:52
  times as much as Medicaid, right?
• 25:54
  You know that. So for every Medicare, you want
• 25:56
  me to do that. But for every Medicare patients
• 25:58
  that you get versus Medicaid, there's an extra two $300.00 of
• 26:01
  profit, right? I mean, you reimburse more, but
• 26:03
  it costs you more, of course, obviously also.
• 26:05
  So 40 patients per month? How much money were you making?
• 26:10
  $8 million a year. What were they paying you?
• 26:13
  I was getting paid. I love how you swallowed that so
• 26:16
  fast, $8 million a year. You're two people, an
• 26:20
  administrator and a marketing director, busting your chops to
• 26:24
  fill up a facility, bringing the owners and operators $8 million
• 26:28
  a year. It's amazing.
• 26:30
  That's why it's important to know what he made, because this
• 26:33
  isn't. We're not, no, but he was doing
• 26:34
  his job very well. We're not interviewing Ditmus
• 26:36
  Park now. No, that's not the point.
• 26:38
  He did everything. He did everything right.
• 26:41
  He paid them make a lot of. Money, not, no, no, not
• 26:43
  necessarily. Of course not.
• 26:44
  You have the clinical team, you have the department heads, you
• 26:46
  have the first service. They had to invest that of
• 26:48
  course. I'm just saying, Rev guys,
• 26:50
  obviously they didn't net profit $8 million a year for those of
• 26:53
  you listening who thought that for those.
• 26:56
  How much money did he make? By the way, for those of you
• 26:58
  listening who are thinking that or thought that, please go
• 27:00
  follow another podcast. This is not about, you know,
• 27:02
  money or being Jewish or any or in the nursing homes.
• 27:05
  This is just the concept that as an employee, a young employee,
• 27:09
  two young superstars turn around a nursing home, making it not
• 27:13
  only profitable, but extremely profitable.
• 27:15
  Yes, that's all I'm saying. And I want to know how much you
• 27:17
  got recognized for it. I want to know about that
• 27:19
  journey. It's very important.
• 27:20
  Bonuses. I got crazy bonuses.
• 27:22
  So you went from 80 grand suddenly a year or two?
• 27:24
  Making how much a year I. Was making well into the 200.
• 27:26
  It's probably 250. They were taking very good care
• 27:29
  of me. I got paid for my car, paid for
• 27:30
  everything There were there were I got to say and shout out to
• 27:33
  Mendel Romberg that who was the administrator of the after
• 27:35
  Nathan Ford left and I stayed on.
• 27:37
  So I stayed on way longer. Nathan Ford went on to work for
• 27:41
  some other people to start his own thing.
• 27:42
  I stayed there till probably 2019 and in the midst of being
• 27:46
  there I started Central Marketing because I realized if
• 27:48
  I could fill up one home and make 200 something grand,
• 27:52
  imagine I filled up 10 homes, I can make $2,000,000.
• 27:55
  When you start sensible marketing.
• 27:56
  Sensible started where I could fill up a home, let me train
• 28:00
  young guys and and and girls and they should work for under me
• 28:03
  filling up Four Seasons, filling up CFW group, filling up this
• 28:07
  home. And that's when I went on and
• 28:09
  was thank you to Molly Sherman, who gave me an opportunity at
• 28:11
  Four Seasons. Thank you to Ellie Goldbaum and
• 28:13
  the Deutsch family gave me opportunity in Queens.
• 28:15
  And that's when I started off really hiring people.
• 28:18
  I started with Ron Krezel, my who's my partner now, and I
• 28:21
  hired a guy, Jeremy Freeman, who's my CEO now.
• 28:23
  I hired a bunch of great guys, Steve Solomon and Aaron Donner
• 28:27
  and it goes up, the list goes on and on.
• 28:29
  And they really were extension to me.
• 28:32
  So there was a bunch of shimmies running around filling up homes
• 28:34
  and I would charge them, let's say 150 grand a year.
• 28:38
  I would pay my guy 60 grand, 70 grand and keep the rest.
• 28:40
  So that was the concept. And then as they grew with me,
• 28:42
  we, they took on more homes, they got paid more, we charged a
• 28:45
  little more. And that's how the sensible
• 28:47
  started. You trained all these guys.
• 28:48
  You. Trained every single one myself.
• 28:50
  At what point did you leave Ditmus Park and just start 20?
• 28:52
  19 or 20 right, right by COVID. Ditmus Park called me in and
• 28:56
  they said, OK, you know, it's the time's been up.
• 28:58
  Let's be a consultant. You consulted for us.
• 29:00
  We consulted for them under sensible for they took my salary
• 29:03
  away and they kept me on for like I think another year.
• 29:05
  And then at the end, during COVID, I think we moved our
• 29:07
  moved our went our separate ways, but we still keep in
• 29:10
  touch. But that's when I really like
• 29:12
  had enough coming in that I covered myself, didn't need that
• 29:15
  salary, but it was a risk to jump in.
• 29:17
  You know, starting your own company is not an easy thing.
• 29:20
  I'm sure you know that, Michael. And this you guys know.
• 29:23
  This is not about me. But I'm just saying it's not.
• 29:25
  Easy. 100% not easy that. That risk, you know, jumping in
• 29:27
  and you don't have to make payroll, have to pay.
• 29:29
  Everything I'd like to hear about it, I want to know how
• 29:31
  that beginning was. You're making 200 grand a year.
• 29:34
  There's a lot of people that are listening to this that think
• 29:35
  like this. I'm making 200 grand a year.
• 29:37
  I might as well start my own business.
• 29:39
  So when did it hit you and how did you behave and react to the,
• 29:42
  you know, needing to make payroll and suddenly getting tax
• 29:45
  bills and suddenly having licensing issues and territory
• 29:48
  issues and people getting upset and facilities not happy?
• 29:50
  Tell me about that journey. It was.
• 29:51
  Definitely a humble beginning because you know, having to take
• 29:55
  your, all the money coming in, you giving out to your, to your,
• 29:58
  your people, you're left with a little something.
• 30:01
  That's when you know, loans start coming to play.
• 30:03
  In order to hire more people, you have to have more money,
• 30:05
  more cash flow. Some people didn't pan time.
• 30:07
  So it was a very humble beginning and definitely, you
• 30:11
  know, I got to give Abe Kona shout out.
• 30:12
  He came on, really helped us grow a certain division called
• 30:15
  CBC. And then we now, you know, we
• 30:17
  have a division called admissions Pro.
• 30:19
  But Berkham, things really took off and you know, we're we're
• 30:22
  one of the, I think, leading companies in admissions and
• 30:25
  marketing in, in in healthcare. That's cute.
• 30:27
  You're not the leading company. You're literally the only
• 30:28
  company that doesn't. I mean literally.
• 30:30
  I mean, there's no, I mean there are people tried because this is
• 30:33
  my point. People try to do something that
• 30:36
  they're good at and creating a business out of it.
• 30:39
  It's, it's in a way, it's great to take a risk and do well, but
• 30:42
  in a way it's very dangerous because you were making 200
• 30:45
  grand a year and suddenly you're starting over a business.
• 30:46
  Then you're borrowing money you can't pay back before you know
• 30:49
  it. God forbid things can happen.
• 30:51
  So, so having a partner, hiring the right people, training them
• 30:54
  is all great, but that's that's the part that interests me in
• 30:57
  terms of. Your one of the things that
• 30:58
  Jimmy did really, really well. I mean, obviously he was
• 31:00
  marketing for homes, for nursing homes, but he also marketed his
• 31:03
  company and himself everywhere. Well, yes, his merch was always
• 31:07
  great. Yes, great merch, right?
• 31:09
  That's how I want to get into. What's the tip then you give for
• 31:11
  a business? Like, tell me about that process
• 31:12
  Like somebody you don't have a lot of money, you want to grow
• 31:14
  your business you just started. I think the key to being
• 31:18
  successful as a small business is to brand something you're
• 31:22
  good at and have a good tagline that gets everyone excited.
• 31:26
  So good times is such an easy word, but it really like became
• 31:29
  our identity. Good times.
• 31:31
  People would take pictures, they're flying into some, you
• 31:34
  know, Toronto or. Something I used to take videos,
• 31:36
  I used to wear your your merch. I would take videos of me.
• 31:39
  I used to scream it out everywhere out.
• 31:40
  If you remember, I would. We had, we went through our
• 31:42
  kufa, we went through our time where we were screaming
• 31:44
  sensible. It was a great time, and now we
• 31:45
  whisper it. Now people are screaming Shimmy
• 31:49
  J. But there was a good times like
• 31:51
  production, it was good times in a separate division, yes.
• 31:54
  What was that? So basically I realized that if
• 31:56
  you could get people, even if it's not in healthcare, to
• 31:59
  recognize your brand, then it trickles down to the healthcare
• 32:01
  guys and it trickles down to to everyone.
• 32:04
  And that goes back to what we were saying earlier.
• 32:06
  If you have a positive brand and you're doing good things in the
• 32:09
  for the world, people want to work with you.
• 32:11
  People want to work with someone who has a hearts, someone who's
• 32:13
  a Mensch, someone who's a good person.
• 32:15
  People want to work. There's a trust factor, there's
• 32:17
  a good energy, these vibes, and that's where you could bring
• 32:22
  everyone together and crush it and then have so much success.
• 32:24
  That's the number one key to to success is doing good and
• 32:28
  presenting in a very good, trustworthy manner.
• 32:31
  And your merch was very cool and.
• 32:34
  We have new stuff by the way. I'm still, I'm still.
• 32:36
  I'm still waiting for it. I'm still waiting.
• 32:37
  Seeing the way you guys are, I should have just came.
• 32:40
  By the way. Right.
• 32:41
  I came with the white shirt, just I, I just spilled all over
• 32:43
  myself so. We made a Lochai.
• 32:45
  The first time yet that's right. We made a Lochai and literally
• 32:47
  the wine went everywhere. Everywhere so and thank.
• 32:50
  And thank God we had a very comfortable prime source sweat.
• 32:52
  I'm I'm very happy to wear this I got.
• 32:54
  The prime source merch. Beautiful merch.
• 32:56
  I, I agree with you, by the way, the merch, I think every company
• 32:59
  that's, you know, trying to step up.
• 33:01
  I, I never heard this before and I like it.
• 33:03
  I like what you're saying. Borrow to grow, but borrow
• 33:06
  sensibly. Very good, I said it.
• 33:08
  You have to borrow with, Yeah. You said it, I want to repeat it
• 33:11
  sensibly. Sensibly, yeah, with.
• 33:14
  AC Another reason why I want to repeat it is because borrowing
• 33:16
  money in general is a huge topic of mine.
• 33:19
  It's just something that like I talk about a lot and I don't get
• 33:23
  really the opportunity to lend people money anymore.
• 33:25
  And I'll tell you why it affected my life in a negative
• 33:29
  way. And when I used to lend people
• 33:31
  money and then they wouldn't pay back and it would be very
• 33:33
  difficult. You heard this before.
• 33:35
  Right, I never heard it, but I could I understand it.
• 33:37
  Yeah, so you never heard of people not paying money back?
• 33:39
  No, that I've heard. Yeah.
• 33:41
  Yeah, you personally. You never heard the story of me
• 33:42
  saying. I did it very quietly.
• 33:44
  So, but my point is that, you know, it affected me.
• 33:47
  So I, I came up with a rule and I'm a I'm a life of rules.
• 33:49
  It's again for another, another podcast.
• 33:52
  The rule is I don't lend anyone money.
• 33:53
  I don't lend. You need money.
• 33:54
  I can give you, you, you want to borrow 5 grand, right.
• 33:57
  So I'm not the only one. I saw you mouthing it.
• 33:59
  You see you. There's a lot of us in the world
• 34:01
  that do these type of things. You know, you won five grand.
• 34:03
  Here's 500. God bless you.
• 34:05
  People told me recently that they got insulted by that
• 34:08
  notion, and that's what happened.
• 34:10
  It woke me up. Yeah, I promise.
• 34:11
  It just happened to me. Someone.
• 34:12
  It changed me and it changed an idea that I have in my life.
• 34:15
  And I'm going to share it with you now for a second.
• 34:17
  Is that someone said to me, you know, it's, it's a, he's a
• 34:19
  really good friend of mine and he really needed to borrow the
• 34:21
  money. And, you know, but it wasn't
• 34:23
  that good friend, you know, because everyone on my phone is
• 34:25
  my friend. But there's levels obviously,
• 34:26
  you understand, there's like, you know, there's the comes
• 34:28
  it's, but then there's this, you know, but the point is that he's
• 34:31
  just like, you don't understand. I really needed to borrow 5
• 34:35
  grand and you offered me 500 as an insult to me.
• 34:39
  And I said, wow, you know what, you're right.
• 34:40
  And I apologize and I just can't afford to lose my friendship
• 34:43
  with you. That's what to me, lending is.
• 34:45
  It's not, it's not about I can't afford $4500.
• 34:48
  I can't afford to lose my friendship.
• 34:49
  And you're gonna feel uncomfortable.
• 34:50
  You can't pay me back. You're gonna run away from me
• 34:52
  again. Of course I see you're agreeing
• 34:53
  with me. So we've all been there.
• 34:55
  So I was telling someone this story and I said I wanna give
• 34:58
  the opportunity to lend money. And, and, and he said why?
• 35:01
  And I I said, I heard from somewhere recently that lending
• 35:04
  people money is a very big mitzvah.
• 35:06
  Look at this. You're wording my words.
• 35:08
  I love it. Thank you for being quiet while
• 35:09
  I'm saying it. So you're not interrupting.
• 35:11
  But I, but we're on the same page.
• 35:13
  So I'm thinking it's just happened to me and I'm thinking
• 35:15
  and, and, and I tied the two together.
• 35:17
  So I went someone else. I said, what should I do?
• 35:18
  He said, let give money to a gamache.
• 35:21
  You guys know about this? Yes.
• 35:23
  I didn't know this but this is great.
• 35:24
  Give money to a gamache and I'm I'm ready to do it.
• 35:27
  I I wanna give let's say 5 grand just to a gamache just so.
• 35:30
  And then send your. Friend.
• 35:31
  Then you send there and. Yeah, yeah, you need money, just
• 35:33
  go to the Gamache, you know, because again.
• 35:36
  You get them in the Kumar. No, it's not alone with the
• 35:38
  Kumar. I'm not trying to help my friend
• 35:40
  from that point. No, I'm sorry.
• 35:41
  Let me reiterate. OK.
• 35:42
  I want the mitzvah of lending. That's it.
• 35:44
  Yes, exactly. Let me do with helping friends,
• 35:46
  You personally, Me personally, I want the mitzvah.
• 35:48
  Yeah. Since you learned that lending
• 35:49
  is a big mitzvah, I want that mitzvah, so I'm gonna give it to
• 35:52
  Kumar without having the hardship of ruining my
• 35:54
  friendships. So I'm still saying no to your
• 35:56
  friends. Maybe are you in?
• 35:58
  But I'm in. You like that idea?
• 35:59
  Let's do it to the same, Kumar. OK, tell me which come.
• 36:02
  Off I didn't know it differently.
• 36:04
  You do a Lakewood come out. I'll do him on some I'll.
• 36:05
  Give him an hand. What?
• 36:08
  Hills. Manhattan.
• 36:08
  I live in Manhattan. You do?
• 36:09
  Yeah. I had no idea.
• 36:10
  I love it. I really don't.
• 36:12
  I don't know you that person, BT didn't say.
• 36:14
  There's Chachi BT didn't give away.
• 36:15
  No, I didn't finish the chachi. My address.
• 36:18
  I'll tell you what I do a little bit different is that, but I'll
• 36:21
  still. Do Lake of Gamma because my
• 36:22
  office is there. I give to you know what?
• 36:23
  I'm sorry, do a Manhattan Gamma? People in Manhattan need money,
• 36:26
  believe it or not. By the way, we have a time for
• 36:28
  Shabbos. Do a Manhattan gamar.
• 36:29
  No problem. You're in, I don't.
• 36:30
  Know if there's a? Yeah, we have.
• 36:31
  My shell has one yes. Yeah, I'll do a man Sigma.
• 36:34
  You see, it probably owns his own gamma.
• 36:36
  I give to Gamma and it happens to be that when people ask me.
• 36:38
  So I'll, I'll, I facilitate it because you can't always just
• 36:41
  get into Gamma. You have to have the right
• 36:43
  story, the right situation and the right cosigners.
• 36:46
  And I'll go and I'll tell them they have to get cosigners, but
• 36:49
  I'll also actually cosign if they can't, which sometimes
• 36:51
  comes back to bite you as well. I'm never.
• 36:53
  But I just want to go back to the point I do lend to certain
• 36:57
  people that I know could pay back and I know they have a way
• 37:00
  to pay back, especially if it's like in a partnership or in some
• 37:04
  type of relationship. I'll take their payroll.
• 37:06
  So I'll lend them against their payroll factoring so their
• 37:08
  payroll comes to me. So it's just interest free.
• 37:10
  Loan you're factoring good. For you that you had that
• 37:11
  opportunity? Yeah, I just never had that
• 37:13
  opportunity. I understand.
• 37:14
  You're secure, you're good. Yeah, I know, I know, I know the
• 37:17
  money's coming. I know they're they're they're
• 37:18
  right now. No, I get.
• 37:19
  I get it. Where were we before this, by
• 37:20
  the way? Do you remember?
• 37:21
  We. Were I I took us off on a on.
• 37:24
  I'm sorry. Yeah, No, he.
• 37:25
  Was going through his stories sensible?
• 37:27
  Marketing and then basically the, the, the, the next part is
• 37:32
  after sensible was already a platform.
• 37:33
  I guess in 2021. I, I got opportunity, I want to
• 37:37
  go into all the details of these companies because it's just
• 37:40
  rather not say who they are, but I became partners in some pretty
• 37:43
  big ancillary businesses by investing in them, starting them
• 37:47
  up and giving them a platform because I knew all the players
• 37:50
  in the, in the nursing home business.
• 37:52
  I became partners in, in some very, very big companies that
• 37:54
  helped me, you know, pivot to where I am today.
• 37:57
  Now I have a whole platform called 1 Bridge Health that we
• 38:00
  basically do every type of ancillary from clinical to non
• 38:03
  clinical. Why did they come to you?
• 38:05
  It wasn't for the money, right? I mean.
• 38:06
  One guy came because of the money.
• 38:08
  He needed the money to start. He had an idea he needed, needed
• 38:10
  whatever the amount was. He needed the money and I put up
• 38:12
  the money. Also, it's smart money because I
• 38:15
  had the relationships so you're able to build a company.
• 38:18
  Much You were in a bunch of nursing homes already, so you
• 38:20
  were right in. Start the guy off from scratch
• 38:22
  into 100 homes like that. Now we can do 500 like that.
• 38:27
  And none of these were your ideas.
• 38:28
  People came with an idea with idea.
• 38:30
  My idea was sensible marketing. And were these guys friends of
• 38:33
  yours from before? Or there's people who who saw
• 38:35
  you in the business and. One guy I was working with, I
• 38:36
  think you know a little bit me who's an operator for one of the
• 38:39
  homes we were doing marketing for.
• 38:41
  But no, it was just new introductions.
• 38:43
  And what would you say how many? Look, again, I'm not going to
• 38:45
  ask the specifics, but how many of these did you get into?
• 38:48
  I think I have right now 8 or 9. And how many of these eight or
• 38:52
  nine are successes and how many of them are fails?
• 38:56
  They're all still going. So they're all successful, some
• 38:59
  more than others. Some have giving off
• 39:01
  distributions every month, some every quarter.
• 39:03
  The beauty of the position that you're in, obviously Hashem put
• 39:05
  you there is that you were primed for this.
• 39:08
  This was made for you. This is like I'm in the
• 39:10
  facilities, I have the funds, I have the people, I have the
• 39:13
  army, I have the structure. Let's do this.
• 39:15
  I get it completely and congratulations to you.
• 39:17
  I'm I'm very, very happy for you.
• 39:18
  It's really it's, it's so nice. I mean, it's like, I don't want
• 39:21
  to sound like an old man, but I watched you grow and and it
• 39:24
  really. Would you say there's a specific
• 39:27
  like, OK, we've seen, you know, there's the legend seats,
• 39:29
  there's the the courtside seats, there's there's, there's a
• 39:32
  certain type of lifestyle. Now, is it one company really
• 39:35
  that facilitated? I'm not going to ask the
• 39:36
  specifics of which company or is the collective effort of all of
• 39:40
  the ones that you're invested. In you see, you see, I can't get
• 39:42
  away from this. He really wants to know which
• 39:45
  company made you the most money and.
• 39:46
  How did it happen? How did I miss this?
• 39:48
  What is I invested everything? Oh.
• 39:53
  My God, I love it that it came out.
• 39:54
  You see, I love you. I love that you could be
• 39:56
  transparent and we can schmooze. It's it really is a combination.
• 40:00
  I really believe that now there was one company that really did
• 40:04
  it And and the best part is that I'm 100% owner of that company
• 40:07
  and they didn't have to invest anything.
• 40:09
  Wow, that was. Is that 1 you could talk about
• 40:11
  or you'd rather not? I'd rather not talk about.
• 40:12
  It it's well, but I'll tell you one thing that I've seen.
• 40:15
  None of your business it's. On your but you go and say that,
• 40:17
  you just say it. You know, I've seen, you know, a
• 40:19
  lot of people that you know, they, they make it and you know,
• 40:21
  and because after that they're they forget.
• 40:23
  Everybody else shouldn't be still the same.
• 40:25
  I'll tell you, I didn't even know you were any different.
• 40:27
  And I saw you by that wedding. We were sitting there and I
• 40:29
  actually saw something like that was amazing to me.
• 40:32
  And if I could say, I'm not going to say the details of who
• 40:33
  was or what we're. Going to say it, say it.
• 40:35
  Let's go, guys. What's with the holding back
• 40:37
  here? What's that?
• 40:37
  I don't know if it's say it. You could say this.
• 40:39
  You could say. OK, so you don't even know what
• 40:40
  he's going to say. I know he knows what to say.
• 40:41
  Oh yeah. I was there, that's why you
• 40:43
  could say it. So no, I'll tell you.
• 40:46
  So a couple years ago we were together on PESA and shimmy ate
• 40:49
  by my table actually, and I was trying to help.
• 40:52
  It was it was that gateways program and I was trying to help
• 40:55
  Robbie Suchard. Actually, that's how I even knew
• 40:56
  that the pledge was there. I gave a a significant pledge
• 40:59
  and I was trying to help him. How?
• 41:01
  Much did you give? I think that year was 100 or
• 41:03
  150. Wow.
• 41:04
  OK. And I was trying to help him.
• 41:05
  I was going around the room and, you know, I was trying to help
• 41:07
  him and I went over to Shimmy and I, I probably pushed him
• 41:09
  into it, but they got him for $10,000.
• 41:12
  And but again, I don't, you know, and I don't follow up.
• 41:15
  It's not my part. And I leave and I go home and
• 41:17
  that's it. And I don't even know if Ruby
• 41:19
  Sushard remembered about it. But you know, lately Shimmy was
• 41:23
  in Orlando and also we saw the videos and it's out there,
• 41:26
  people start to see it. So he probably, you know, he had
• 41:29
  to make payroll and he, you know, and he, I guess he figured
• 41:31
  he's going to start. He looks at his list and
• 41:34
  Shimmy's out there and Shimmy still has a $10,000 pledge.
• 41:37
  He's going to go after, you know, go after.
• 41:39
  So he must have tried Shimmy to call a few times and I didn't
• 41:42
  even know he was trying to call him at that point.
• 41:44
  But I was sitting next to Shimmy by a wedding.
• 41:45
  Also Rubbie Sushard walks by and he pops himself down and I said
• 41:49
  I wouldn't have done it this way, but he went right in.
• 41:51
  You know, I've been trying to reach you.
• 41:53
  And she was like outside. I, I saw your calls, you know, I
• 41:56
  saw the calls. And then she said, look, I know
• 41:58
  what you want. But I'll tell you the truth that
• 42:01
  when you came over to me then, and I guess it's also my fault
• 42:03
  because I pushed, you know, I was friends, you and I just
• 42:04
  pushed. But you know, I didn't have the
• 42:08
  $10,000, but I felt like I had you pushed me into it.
• 42:11
  I had to give it. I didn't have the money to do
• 42:12
  it. Didn't I wasn't interested in.
• 42:13
  I felt it wasn't fair that you pushed me into this.
• 42:16
  I didn't have the hearts when I pledged it, right?
• 42:18
  It wasn't from the heart, right? It was just I was forced into.
• 42:20
  It correct I I didn't I did it wasn't a genuine thing because I
• 42:24
  felt like I was beat into this and it wasn't something that I
• 42:27
  and that's. Fiery topic coming up guys.
• 42:30
  Wow. So he so you know, so Sushar
• 42:33
  turned back says you know, I, I was always there for you.
• 42:35
  And again, whether he was he would be I was always there for
• 42:38
  you. And Jimmy said, yo, I paid my
• 42:39
  way since I gave you discount. I was going back and forth and I
• 42:41
  was getting I felt I was sitting in the middle there was about to
• 42:43
  get a little baby hostile even it was getting a little bit
• 42:46
  uncomfortable. And then ships says you know
• 42:48
  what you have, you have your EIN number.
• 42:51
  He gives it to him. Remember he's pledged $10,000.
• 42:53
  I watched I was right there and on the spot.
• 42:56
  He sent through his donors fund $25,000 on the spot, Robbie
• 43:00
  Suchard and the way what I'll tell you what I took from it.
• 43:04
  So first of all, that just that you know that again, like I said
• 43:07
  before, you're, you're approachable and that he had, he
• 43:11
  felt comfortable even saying, you know, it's bothering me
• 43:14
  that, that, you know, most times you're trying to get money out
• 43:17
  of a guy. You're not going to sit there
• 43:17
  and say what bothers you about the guy that he felt comfortable
• 43:20
  saying it's bothering me that you're, you're forgetting what
• 43:22
  he perceives or either did or didn't do, but at least he
• 43:24
  perceives that he did for you along the way.
• 43:27
  And and again, even if it it wasn't, but in his mind, he and
• 43:30
  I'm sure it was genuine. He really was trying to be there
• 43:33
  for you along the way. Nobody knew then that Shimmy J
• 43:35
  is going to be today's Shimmy J that we're dealing with today.
• 43:38
  Right. But he came over and he and he
• 43:41
  took a risk because right now you might be shutting it off,
• 43:43
  but Shimmy didn't take it. Like I'll tell you, I would have
• 43:45
  taken it totally the opposite way.
• 43:46
  You're attacking me. I'm out right, But Shimmy took
• 43:49
  it. Well, they had a disagreement of
• 43:51
  how what the what the timeline and what the facts were.
• 43:54
  And then not only did he not 10,000 was the pledge.
• 43:58
  He didn't just give 10,000. I saw it on the spot.
• 44:01
  He sent $25,000. Wow, I'm still not impressed
• 44:05
  yet. By the way, being honest with
• 44:07
  you, I'm not impressed. No, not yet, because I still,
• 44:09
  I'm missing something. You did.
• 44:11
  Did you pledge 10 grand? Did you not?
• 44:12
  Did he have a right to come to you or not?
• 44:14
  This is this is a great topic. A lot of times people come and
• 44:18
  they push and I'm this is a pet peeve of mine.
• 44:21
  They come, they bring you to parlor meeting, they feed you
• 44:24
  tequila and drinks and you're in a place where your mom is like
• 44:28
  drunk. And then they come and say, can
• 44:30
  you pledge over the next five years, $1,000,000 And you're in
• 44:34
  your state of mind and you feel very pressured and you push
• 44:36
  yourself into and you do something that you don't want to
• 44:38
  do, but you feel forced to it and you're drunk.
• 44:40
  You wake up the next morning like what did I do?
• 44:43
  And that's I feel like mom ish forcing and it's it's, it's the
• 44:47
  most wrong thing you could do. And I stopped going to
• 44:48
  Parliament for this reason, because I had a situation and I
• 44:51
  and I pledged something that I was not comfortable doing and I
• 44:54
  didn't want to do it. But they got me drunk enough to
• 44:57
  that I pledged it. And from then on I stopped
• 45:00
  pledging. I just, I give checks on, I give
• 45:01
  the full amount. I don't pledge.
• 45:03
  I give the amount. If I can't give the amount now,
• 45:05
  I don't, I'm not pledging it come to me over the next few
• 45:06
  years, over the next few months. I don't pledge that I can't when
• 45:09
  I can't give. First of all, thank you.
• 45:11
  Thank you for sharing that with us.
• 45:12
  It's that's like really like, I hope this was therapeutic.
• 45:15
  It was very therapeutic because I've been waiting to talk about
• 45:17
  this. I don't want to listen.
• 45:19
  They just want the pledges. I don't want to.
• 45:20
  Pledge. No, because for me, I mean, I
• 45:22
  feel like I don't know what else the word to use.
• 45:25
  I mean we don't edit this but you got charity Already raped
• 45:28
  bro. I did many times and I had
• 45:31
  someone came out and screaming at me recently, a guy who I
• 45:34
  don't know so well, but he has my number and he says I don't
• 45:38
  like the way you give Tadaka. You give Tadka ostentatiously
• 45:41
  and and making a big deal about it.
• 45:43
  And then you put your name on everything.
• 45:45
  And he like very emptied on me and upset at me for it.
• 45:48
  And I said, I'm sorry, I you won't need a hug or you need
• 45:51
  money. And he said none.
• 45:54
  I said, so what's bothering you? He goes, I just don't like the
• 45:56
  way you're teaching the younger generation about giving Sidaka.
• 45:58
  I said, I'll tell you like this and I have it from zombies or us
• 46:00
  and showed me from halacha. If you can make a difference and
• 46:06
  help others give, you should do it.
• 46:08
  But Fahesia now, no one knows the Tina Tidaka that I do.
• 46:13
  And I'm not trying to say that, you know, Pat was on the back.
• 46:15
  But farhesia means to do it in public.
• 46:17
  Yeah, the public by the. Way if I could say it, I don't
• 46:20
  know if it's the right way to say it, but I think you're
• 46:21
  making, giving Sedaka like sexy. You're making it.
• 46:24
  You're making it fun. You're making.
• 46:25
  It making it fun, but also that you should other people who have
• 46:28
  a lot of money, they don't like sharing it.
• 46:31
  They might right? You should they should have that
• 46:33
  feeling. You know what, if this guy could
• 46:34
  give it, maybe doesn't even have as much as me, I could give it
• 46:37
  too. I'll tell you one thing though,
• 46:38
  Shimmy. But Shimmy does like to speak,
• 46:40
  right? Shimmy does like this because I
• 46:41
  heard him say, I heard him speak somewhere.
• 46:43
  It's funny because it was in the You went to High Life Camsimha
• 46:47
  Yes. And my daughter happened to be
• 46:49
  working there. And I they asked me to come the
• 46:51
  next week. That was the week after my
• 46:52
  daughter was all upset that like, Shimmy came with a
• 46:54
  helicopter and I came with a regular car.
• 46:57
  But what Shimmy said was that, you know, I don't always speak,
• 47:00
  but if I do speak, it has to be recorded.
• 47:03
  In front of the camera. You said in front of the camera,
• 47:05
  Yeah, so. But so was this always you
• 47:08
  Always. And I see all the time now.
• 47:09
  I see remiss in Kaplan is Rusha Shiva from Eric Cicero.
• 47:12
  He had a big yard Hakala, which is a learning program for a day
• 47:16
  was a meet and greet. It was business connections and
• 47:19
  shimmy. I happened to have my was my
• 47:21
  grandson's haircut, you know is up Sharon and I couldn't come
• 47:24
  but shimmy was the main like the main speaker him and and Yasi
• 47:27
  Kasnovsky. But was this something that was
• 47:29
  always a dream of yours to be a speaker to be out there?
• 47:31
  I don't. Know if I have had that dream,
• 47:33
  but I always had it in me to be a good speaker and inspire
• 47:38
  people. I always wanted to be a Rebbie.
• 47:39
  If I wasn't going to go, you know, the way I went, I would
• 47:41
  have been a Rebbie or a teacher. I like to inspire people.
• 47:44
  I feel like Hashem gave me a certain clipless and certain
• 47:48
  ability to be able to inspire and give over.
• 47:50
  And people relate to it because it's raw, it's real, it's from
• 47:53
  the hearts. It's like it's so real and I
• 47:55
  love people. I like genuinely love people.
• 47:57
  So for me to talk and inspire, it's like I feel like that was
• 48:01
  my topic in this world and that's why I'm here, so I could
• 48:04
  get up. I got invited now to go speak at
• 48:06
  Tor Misura on their panel. Of course, yes, I'd say yes
• 48:09
  because I know This is why I'm here.
• 48:11
  So I will keep on doing it it. Was funny.
• 48:12
  I'm first of all, wow, I really don't know you.
• 48:17
  This is amazing and I always loved you, which is just making
• 48:20
  this so much more enjoyable for me.
• 48:21
  You know it's coming one full circle from the beginning of our
• 48:24
  conversation until now. Yes, you just said you mentioned
• 48:27
  on a camera I only say things if I'm recorded.
• 48:29
  You obviously mean it as a joke and you obviously mean it to
• 48:31
  inspire others. Otherwise you wouldn't be giving
• 48:34
  sadaqa but snua also right? Otherwise you wouldn't be the
• 48:36
  person who you are. So meaning, I think it's just
• 48:39
  awesome to see it. It's just like I'm, I'm, I'm I'm
• 48:41
  now reminiscing of the conversation earlier,
• 48:44
  reminiscing. I'm just looking back at the
• 48:46
  conversation earlier. And I'm saying when you did
• 48:48
  sensible marketing, you went with a bang.
• 48:49
  You put your name out there. It's all about just what people,
• 48:53
  it's not just about what they're perceiving, but it's about what
• 48:55
  they can accept and what they want to emulate and what they
• 48:57
  want to copy. And you're, you're making such a
• 49:00
  great point. You're saying it's not just like
• 49:01
  OK, the Bahram and it's not just the the older people, it's also
• 49:05
  the people that are wealthy Yes, yes get off your tuchis yes and
• 49:08
  go do something with your money 4. $100 million.
• 49:10
  Give some to DACA. Don't just go and give your what
• 49:14
  you're forced to give to DACA guys, come on, you're sitting on
• 49:16
  so much money. Keep on giving.
• 49:18
  Can I ask something about Sedaka?
• 49:19
  There was a you could. Bring the mic back to you now.
• 49:23
  Like, you know, there's. A drop mic.
• 49:25
  I saw you wanted to drop it it. Was another thing that happened
• 49:27
  that night. That he knows you too well.
• 49:30
  But it's like, yes, yeah, yeah, this is weird.
• 49:32
  At that wedding. Yeah, at that wedding that there
• 49:34
  was a, there was a rabbi there on the crowd and shimmy points
• 49:37
  and we can see that guy there. And I'm asking for a specific
• 49:39
  thing because I struggle with this myself.
• 49:43
  There's a rabbi there is that rabbi.
• 49:44
  See that rabbi right there? He didn't take me into yeshiva
• 49:47
  and I know now he wants sadaqa for me.
• 49:50
  And suddenly now he, he never had time of day for me before,
• 49:53
  but now he does the why am I bringing this up?
• 49:55
  I just had this. I remember that there's one
• 49:57
  point when I, I left one yeshiva and I was switching to another
• 50:00
  one. I was probably asked to leave
• 50:02
  and I wanted to go, you know, my father was like devastated and I
• 50:06
  wanted to go to, he said you're going to certain yeshiva on
• 50:09
  Muncie. And I went there.
• 50:10
  The guy didn't want to take me. And I have like 3 voicemails on
• 50:13
  my phone of this guy trying to make appointments with me for
• 50:15
  money. And in my mind, I can't get past
• 50:17
  it that, you know, there was a point in my life that I just
• 50:22
  needed acceptance. Just take, I wasn't a bad boy.
• 50:24
  I knew how I always knew how to learn.
• 50:26
  I always learned. Yes, I was a little bit wild,
• 50:29
  but but I, I, I was, I was controllable.
• 50:31
  I was, I was, I was able you could have mentored me.
• 50:33
  I wasn't someone who was like, like, you know, out of control.
• 50:36
  And if you would have taken me in, I mean, again, I would be a
• 50:38
  different person. Maybe today would be a whole
• 50:40
  different trajectory and everything.
• 50:41
  But but that's not what I needed to hear then.
• 50:43
  So why do I have to be there for you now that you need money and
• 50:46
  I'm able to write a check? So I saw you that night.
• 50:48
  Then I actually saw you talking to him.
• 50:49
  I don't know what happened at the end, but but the point
• 50:52
  though, is that now that you're in a position to do this, and
• 50:56
  I'm sure you've been smacked on the way along the way,
• 50:59
  especially you know someone who you were married, divorced and
• 51:01
  then you got remarried and you everyone has their journey, But
• 51:04
  I'm sure there there are people now who are coming and hugging
• 51:07
  you and and now you're Rep shimmy to them who who at that
• 51:10
  point wouldn't have said a word to you.
• 51:12
  So how do you deal with the? It's it's a.
• 51:16
  It's a. Gracing the rejection that you
• 51:17
  faced years before and they somehow conveniently forgets.
• 51:21
  Forget that they've been rejecting you and now you.
• 51:23
  They're coming to you with their hand out.
• 51:25
  How do you deal with that? It's.
• 51:26
  A great question and it's something that I've been dealing
• 51:29
  with for the last probably 10 years more.
• 51:31
  So I was, I remember a story that I was in the yeshiva when I
• 51:34
  got separated. I used to learn with a a bucker
• 51:37
  and when I got separated, they tell me you're not a young man
• 51:39
  anymore so you can't we're learn and we're taking away your
• 51:42
  stipend. And I was so hurt.
• 51:45
  That really set me off like on a very very.
• 51:48
  More than the. Money more than the money that
• 51:50
  they said because I got separated.
• 51:51
  Now I'm not able to learn with this kid.
• 51:55
  And for many years I was very hurt and I was at a wedding and
• 51:58
  the guy who took that away from me was like 10 years later comes
• 52:01
  over to me goes, I feel that you're still fatigued and you're
• 52:05
  still upset at me. And I feel it even though I
• 52:07
  don't see you. But I just in my heart, I feel
• 52:09
  it. And I said, Reb, whatever his
• 52:11
  name is, come here. I give him a hug.
• 52:13
  I say, I merely believe Shalom. You had to do what you had to do
• 52:16
  in the moment. I had to do what I had to do.
• 52:19
  I merely believe Shalom. And we're moving on.
• 52:21
  Keep on doing good things. And I let it go.
• 52:24
  When you let things go, you're healing yourself so much more
• 52:27
  than holding on to something and grieving and being upset.
• 52:30
  Then you're the Nebuch. When you let it go, you're a
• 52:33
  rock star. No one can mess with that.
• 52:36
  And I do this to all the Rashivas and all the Rebbe, and
• 52:39
  I'll hug them. Forgive and forget.
• 52:41
  That's how you're. It's unbelievable hearing you
• 52:43
  say this, by the way, it's true. You know, one one minute you're
• 52:46
  saying forgive and forget and the second minute you're saying
• 52:48
  don't charity rape me. And it's.
• 52:50
  Cool, but those are the new realities.
• 52:52
  Those aren't the old guys. No, but I'm saying is hearing
• 52:54
  you say it, it's it's pretty, but.
• 52:56
  I'll tell you so. Shimmy is someone also who knows
• 52:59
  and I've seen him show, let's say Hakarasat.
• 53:01
  I have and I'll give you a specific, which is appreciation.
• 53:03
  I'll give you a specific example.
• 53:05
  He probably doesn't even know that I watched this happen.
• 53:08
  I saw it first hand, so again, we know Shimmy was married
• 53:12
  before and he has two beautiful kids who are who are rock stars.
• 53:15
  Rock stars, I don't know this we're we're not finishing this
• 53:18
  podcast until we get to your history.
• 53:20
  So. There's kids a rock star, really
• 53:22
  good, good kids. And I was by a program with him
• 53:27
  and I it was, it was by the, IT was a Shuest program.
• 53:31
  And it was the the Nate's minion, the early minion, right
• 53:33
  where you learn the whole night. And 4:30 in the morning you
• 53:35
  start chakras. And then they start reading
• 53:38
  Megillis something. The.
• 53:40
  The restless Yeah, the worst. They hit you with everything
• 53:43
  that night, right? But they also do is when I think
• 53:45
  they sell Dalias and Shimmy went and he and he start to bid for
• 53:48
  an Alia for somebody who was there and I'll say who it was
• 53:50
  after. Remember this 'cause I don't
• 53:51
  forget a. Thing.
• 53:52
  Oh my God. And he start to bid and then
• 53:55
  people are bidding against it and then and he buys Dalia.
• 53:57
  And again, this is Shimmy Pre, you know, I don't even know if
• 54:00
  you were sensible marketing at that that point.
• 54:02
  Maybe you're just starting then but it was definitely not.
• 54:04
  Like it wasn't even the fake it till you make it date.
• 54:06
  It was free. Free.
• 54:07
  Fake it till you make it. And he bought and I said why?
• 54:11
  I mean, again, the guy was one of the speakers there.
• 54:13
  Just say who he was it. Was probably pays a Crone and
• 54:17
  but why buy him an alias? Just I want to tell you why, and
• 54:20
  this is just to show how special, right?
• 54:24
  He says. I don't know how he got involved
• 54:25
  with Shimmy's kids, his Shimmy's family, but he saw these two
• 54:29
  boys. At that point, Shimmy was the
• 54:30
  boy. And a girl, a boy and a.
• 54:31
  Girl, I'm sorry, a boy and a girl.
• 54:32
  And he was, he was divorced and I guess Shimmy had his, you had
• 54:36
  your own journey at that point. I don't know if he thought that
• 54:38
  you that that. I was living in New York and he
• 54:40
  was living in my kids lived in Cleveland.
• 54:42
  Right. So New York and Cleveland.
• 54:43
  And he said, you know, I want to do something for these kids.
• 54:45
  And he travels all around the world to speak.
• 54:47
  And every time he went to speak, he would buy a shot glass from
• 54:50
  that place. For my son.
• 54:51
  And send it to his son. Wow.
• 54:53
  I don't think he really knows. Just you know your son before.
• 54:55
  He knew my son he's calling he met him I think at a program
• 54:58
  right and they kept in touch. He saw was a kid from a divorce
• 55:00
  home and he said I'm gonna give this kid something special.
• 55:04
  Every time he traveled around the world he would ship a glass,
• 55:08
  a shot glass from the airport and would call him on air of
• 55:11
  Chavez, wish him good, Chavez and I.
• 55:12
  Didn't know that part. And out of cars to type.
• 55:14
  And that's why I bought him Dahlia.
• 55:16
  He bought any good things for years, going on for years.
• 55:18
  He would always send him from like and this is not like nobody
• 55:22
  knew that this is going to be Shimmy J today, who is the
• 55:24
  speaker of the OSC in the Baltzadaka.
• 55:26
  This was just a a little boy that needs that he felt needed
• 55:30
  some Khazek and he felt would appreciate a shot glass from
• 55:33
  different places around the world.
• 55:34
  There's special people like this.
• 55:36
  But my point wasn't about Pisa Kron should be on your podcast
• 55:38
  and that'll be his thing. But but the fact that Shimmy
• 55:41
  said, you know what, I want to do something for this guy.
• 55:42
  You didn't have a lot of money then.
• 55:44
  I don't know what the leaves were very expensive.
• 55:46
  Probably $1000 was expensive, you know, for, you know, after
• 55:49
  you just paid to come to a program and he he went and he
• 55:52
  bought the leaks. Crazy that you remember this.
• 55:53
  Yes, I don't forget. You're out of control.
• 55:55
  That's a great story, by the way.
• 55:56
  Really, I have so many levels. I appreciate what Peso Crone was
• 55:59
  doing, which is so nice. You know, as you get older, you
• 56:02
  want to do things for the younger generation like you're
• 56:03
  doing right now and like, you know what you can do to impact a
• 56:06
  child? Oh my gosh, shot glasses
• 56:08
  everywhere. How many shot glasses do you?
• 56:09
  You had a lot. You had a lot.
• 56:10
  Then I started doing it. I'm like, I gotta do it.
• 56:13
  Who'd you do it for? Your kid?
• 56:14
  For my son. Oh, you're like, oh boy, thanks.
• 56:16
  Thank you for another kid. That's a great, that's great.
• 56:19
  That's. Guys, I recently had something
• 56:21
  that happened to me and I need to share it with you.
• 56:23
  I got it unloaded here. OK, ready.
• 56:25
  You heard it here first, I started Davini by Orschlomo.
• 56:30
  A shout out to Zeesh Molnstein and all the amazing people at
• 56:33
  Orschlomo. What an incredible shul.
• 56:35
  It's the reason I wake up in the morning to Davin.
• 56:38
  Chakras. I should say is Orschlomo
• 56:42
  anyways, but I'm there prime. Source.
• 56:44
  We don't wake up for you. Anyways, so somebody asked me.
• 56:50
  There he goes. I have a rabbi coming into
• 56:52
  Muncie and if it's OK with you, you know, I, I heard you have a
• 56:56
  nice sized dining room. Can we do it in your house or do
• 56:59
  you know anybody that has an so I said, you know what, let me
• 57:01
  think with you, you know, because a lot of times when
• 57:03
  doing favors for people, you don't need to give them the
• 57:05
  answer. You could just help them think
• 57:06
  of the answer, right. So that's the mode I got into
• 57:08
  it. Long story short, you know, I
• 57:12
  was going to do it in my house. OK.
• 57:14
  And it was Wednesday and we were planning on doing it the
• 57:20
  following night. Thursday night, this rabbi was
• 57:22
  coming to my house. People in the community were
• 57:24
  going to see, you know, come for blessings and get guidance or
• 57:27
  whatever. I didn't even know really who
• 57:29
  the rabbi was. I was just giving my house.
• 57:31
  That's all it was. I got a phone call from a guy
• 57:34
  and he says, hey, the rabbi's coming to your house.
• 57:35
  Yes, he's coming to your house. OK, good.
• 57:38
  I need to tell you that, you know, your house has to be
• 57:40
  ready. You know, you can't just take a
• 57:42
  rabbi and bring him at the house.
• 57:43
  Got to be ready. You got to have food, drinks,
• 57:45
  people. You got to.
• 57:46
  You're going to have people come.
• 57:47
  I'm like, I I think that we got off on the wrong foot here.
• 57:50
  I was just giving my house. You know what I mean?
• 57:52
  You know the type you know like right?
• 57:53
  You give your house and some of your.
• 57:54
  All of a sudden your house thing comes.
• 57:56
  Which is fine, but in this scenario, I, I, I didn't even
• 57:59
  think I was going to be home. Like anyways, that evening I get
• 58:03
  a, a thing from, I don't know what it was.
• 58:05
  Somebody sent me a Ford. It was probably from CBN.
• 58:08
  You, you know, the good guys at CBN.
• 58:09
  Don't you shout out to CBN? Yeah.
• 58:11
  So Rabbi Yosef Pinto or Yeshua Pinto, is that right?
• 58:15
  Yeshua Pinto just gave a blessing to Kanye West and it
• 58:20
  was all over commenting people forwarding yeah, Rabbi Pinto was
• 58:25
  meant to be in my house Thursday night.
• 58:26
  No way. That's who it was.
• 58:28
  Yoshio Pinto, yeah. That's who you said who it was.
• 58:31
  And I and I, I sat down that night with my family and we
• 58:33
  talked about it and I was like, I don't know what to do.
• 58:36
  And I said I'm going to for sure tell this person no.
• 58:38
  And I can't give my house and I cancelled it and that's it.
• 58:40
  Wow. I'm curious what you guys think.
• 58:42
  That's crazy you cancelled because of the person it.
• 58:45
  Was I didn't. I didn't want that kind of
• 58:47
  publicity, right? That's a lot of house I didn't
• 58:49
  want. A lot of publicity, yeah.
• 58:51
  Wow. By the way, it wasn't CBN.
• 58:53
  Shiva World News posted it. CBN Badafka didn't post it, just
• 58:56
  FYI. And I think they did go on after
• 58:57
  and they said that they were they they knocked it, they said
• 58:59
  that they. Said that we shouldn't post it
• 59:01
  yeah, he didn't post it. He.
• 59:02
  He Oh, that's what I. Was by the way, shout out to
• 59:03
  them. Actually, I like that.
• 59:05
  I like that. Now I see why they have their
• 59:06
  own following. By the way, he's revolutionized.
• 59:08
  This is like, by the way, you should have him on this.
• 59:10
  I am *** would be you should have him on there, but he's
• 59:12
  revolutionized these type of things because he his
• 59:17
  commentary. He has his own commentary.
• 59:18
  Oh so people know that CBN is climb nager?
• 59:21
  Everyone knows. I didn't know I know him, that's
• 59:23
  why I'm asking. I don't really know him well and
• 59:25
  I didn't. Know right now and I see.
• 59:27
  And I'm gonna sound like an idiot saying this, but I see it,
• 59:31
  you know, popping up on his status all the time.
• 59:33
  And I had to mute it because it's so much, it's so much
• 59:36
  whatever. And I literally don't spend time
• 59:38
  on on media or social media. But going back to what you're
• 59:40
  saying. So you literally said no to
• 59:43
  having this like Macabel because you don't want to have the
• 59:48
  people looking and seeing, you know, seeing it, it felt.
• 59:52
  No, not I in horror. No, it just felt wrong.
• 59:54
  I don't know. There's a lot of negativity.
• 59:56
  That's really the bottom line. That's a lot of negativity.
• 59:58
  Yeah, maybe he's a great guy. Maybe he's a Macabel, maybe he's
• 1:00:01
  not. I know that's another podcast.
• 1:00:02
  No one knows though. I.
• 1:00:03
  I could tell you about my history with Macabel as I grew
• 1:00:05
  up in that environment. Yeah, I'm not going to come from
• 1:00:07
  Israel, Ha, Hams that were at my house.
• 1:00:09
  Miracles that people see in real, real good things.
• 1:00:12
  But there's negativity that can come out of it also.
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  And the second I saw that, I was out.
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  I think it was a smart move. And then Stefan called me and
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  goes, are you crazy? You know what kind of social
• 1:00:20
  media we can do with that? Keep it a podcast right there.
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  I don't even know how he found out.
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  No, but that's. That's weird.
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  Did he go? I don't know.
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  I don't. Maybe he went to someone else's
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  house. I don't know.
• 1:00:30
  Maybe he just decided Muncie's not so.
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  You know we're. Going to have to wrap up soon
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  because. You know it's.
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  I don't want to finish before asking you just quickly about
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  your personal life, but you don't have to get too deep into
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  it. Obviously you're divorced, so
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  you don't. There's always people there.
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  You know, you don't want kids listening to this later and you
• 1:00:46
  have to be sensitive. I get that.
• 1:00:47
  But it's about I got to tell me through that process.
• 1:00:49
  When I was 2122 shut up shut up day first girl and making family
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  great people and yeah for for unforeseeable reasons the
• 1:00:57
  marriage didn't work got divorced.
• 1:00:59
  You had two kids, had two beautiful, beautiful and I was
• 1:01:03
  single for a bunch of years, one on a journey, and I came and met
• 1:01:07
  my wife in New York City and settled down and Barksham have
• 1:01:10
  two new, beautiful, new kids, boy and girl, and I'm blessed.
• 1:01:14
  You did the mitzvah twice bro. Preview twice and I had two
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  pitting events. That's right.
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  Yeah, I was by Shimmy's wedding. Wow yeah now I have to ask you
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  and 1st wedding or second? Wedding first or second, you
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  know, you and grill. You and grill MO.
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  Robbie was like both weddings. Yeah, really.
• 1:01:28
  He's the only one I know. You.
• 1:01:29
  I want him here, by the way. That's who my my most MO Robbie
• 1:01:33
  should come on the. Podcast you know that's coming.
• 1:01:35
  I know he. Does he's the team that does
• 1:01:38
  research terms he knows? No, no, Come on.
• 1:01:40
  Tell me. You yourself watch the podcast
• 1:01:41
  at least Come on. Of course the team is OK.
• 1:01:43
  You know, I know. I know what comes.
• 1:01:44
  You know what comes you. Know so I I was it was it was a
• 1:01:46
  beautiful wedding. It was the buy it was in UN
• 1:01:48
  Grill. But yeah, I.
• 1:01:50
  Was very intimate. It was beautiful, yes.
• 1:01:51
  Got it. So how'd you meet your second
• 1:01:52
  wife, by the way? I have a lot of single divorced
• 1:01:54
  friends and I, I just want to say forget about everything else
• 1:01:57
  I have to say about them, but I'd love to have them to hear
• 1:02:00
  about that journey real quick. Like you went through the
• 1:02:01
  journey that we're not going to discuss obviously, but at the
• 1:02:04
  end, how did you meet her? So I think part of, you know,
• 1:02:09
  accepting and I have to bring Hashem to this because it's all
• 1:02:11
  from a Yeah, like Zevam, especially when it comes to
• 1:02:14
  marriages, it's all about having the.
• 1:02:17
  I thought it was J Swipe and I'm kidding, but I'm serious.
• 1:02:20
  That's what I wanna hear. Mine got froze.
• 1:02:26
  Go ahead, tell me the vert. No, the the Martin Seita says
• 1:02:29
  that it has to do with your mice and Titan.
• 1:02:30
  Like if you're a good person, you can find the right person.
• 1:02:32
  That's one thing, but that's just a shout to my wife.
• 1:02:35
  But I think just living your life and knowing that the right
• 1:02:39
  thing is going to happen in the right time from Hashem and you
• 1:02:41
  have that trust that be talking, it's going to happen.
• 1:02:44
  And it's I know it's hard out there for the young guys and
• 1:02:46
  girls out there, it's hard. Ashutam is the hardest thing,
• 1:02:49
  especially second time around. But if you just trust in Hashem
• 1:02:52
  and you just put your stylist, go to those dates, go on those
• 1:02:55
  dates, it's gonna happen. It happens to be my my wife on a
• 1:02:58
  rooftop. Were you looking to settle down
• 1:03:00
  and get married or I was not? You met.
• 1:03:02
  You met. Hoovi.
• 1:03:03
  So you. I met her and I settled.
• 1:03:04
  Down. Hold on.
• 1:03:04
  I wanna hear this. You met her at a rooftop.
• 1:03:06
  Go ahead at a rooftop, We're in New York City.
• 1:03:08
  Keep going. You went up to her.
• 1:03:11
  So. Come on, you can ask her
• 1:03:14
  permission. It's fine.
• 1:03:15
  Go ahead. I'm asking for a genuine reason.
• 1:03:17
  I really am. I speak to single people all the
• 1:03:19
  time. Not joking.
• 1:03:20
  And we always talk about what they can do in order to get
• 1:03:23
  themselves to the level of, you know, really meeting the right
• 1:03:25
  person. You're saying Hashem, which is
• 1:03:28
  great. Obviously you said be a good
• 1:03:29
  person, which I love, you know, which is also should be.
• 1:03:32
  Obviously, you know, I'm curious, like what do you do?
• 1:03:34
  You see a girl, you approach her.
• 1:03:35
  That's why I'm asking. There was this rooftop called 60
• 1:03:38
  Thompson and I was going with a friend of mine and he brought
• 1:03:41
  his friends and my wife was one of the friends he brought and
• 1:03:45
  she was from Crown Heights. How bad girl and for me, it was
• 1:03:48
  very interesting coming from Lakewood.
• 1:03:50
  We have more in common with cabal than you would think.
• 1:03:52
  Like a lot of the growing up is they have a lot of you know, one
• 1:03:56
  of the Sneas and a lot of things that they're very mocked on and
• 1:03:59
  we connected on on a lot of those stuff and we talked about,
• 1:04:02
  you know, coming from those communities.
• 1:04:04
  We are we are now and we we hit it off.
• 1:04:06
  She at first she was making it a little hard for me out to like
• 1:04:09
  chase her, you know, divorced with two kids.
• 1:04:11
  She was a single girl. She was 25.
• 1:04:13
  I was probably like closer in the in the lower 30s and but she
• 1:04:19
  you know, eventually we worked out were you.
• 1:04:20
  Successful at that time or. So it's very interesting.
• 1:04:23
  I was just starting off with sensible, so I was making my
• 1:04:26
  whatever, let's say 250 a year, whatever the number was in that
• 1:04:29
  range. But she always told me, I know
• 1:04:31
  this guy's going to places. She always believed in me that I
• 1:04:34
  have the potential. Do you think that more than
• 1:04:36
  believing is she a part of your success, That she's motivated
• 1:04:39
  you and 100%? So that's what actually a great
• 1:04:42
  question, being married and being in a relationship, a
• 1:04:46
  healthy relationship brings stability.
• 1:04:48
  And when you're stable and you have a Good Wife, I just how
• 1:04:51
  behind you you could conquer the world.
• 1:04:53
  That is a fact. And when I became stable, that's
• 1:04:55
  when the success went into OverDrive.
• 1:04:58
  Wow. Wow, that's beautiful.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, that really is beautiful. Shimmy.
• 1:05:02
  What a blast it is. This was so much fun.
• 1:05:04
  I really, I feel like I want to do this again and again and
• 1:05:07
  again and again. So by the way, you got married,
• 1:05:09
  you moved to Manhattan and. And I was living in Manhattan
• 1:05:11
  when I got. Married.
• 1:05:12
  When I met, you were single, living in the city, and you
• 1:05:15
  decided let me just stay there and now stay.
• 1:05:17
  There and now we have a shul which is beautiful.
• 1:05:19
  What part of the city? The West Side.
• 1:05:21
  The West Side, Yeah. Shout out to HKS, Hell's
• 1:05:23
  Kitchen, Stiebel, Maishi, Reisman, the Velasco.
• 1:05:25
  Great crew. We have a great shul.
• 1:05:26
  I love the city and I, you know many people don't agree with me
• 1:05:31
  on this but the city has so many beautiful pockets of beauty.
• 1:05:34
  Even with this mayor, that's going to not last for 3-4 years.
• 1:05:37
  And we should get it. We should we should get a rental
• 1:05:39
  there like for Shabbos that we could do like a for bring there.
• 1:05:42
  Bring Let's make it comes. What are you talking about?
• 1:05:44
  We have a guy here. Give us a guest house and we'll
• 1:05:46
  come whenever the heck we want. Every you want.
• 1:05:48
  Jimmy. This was amazing.
• 1:05:49
  I really appreciate it. Incredible.
• 1:05:50
  Incredible podcast. Yeah, it's exactly the way it
• 1:05:54
  started. Who would be your guest that you
• 1:05:56
  would? For he says that I just want to
• 1:05:57
  thank you for allowing me to Co host this is this is meaningful
• 1:05:59
  to me because I know shimmy for years.
• 1:06:01
  Yeah, this went way better with you this year.
• 1:06:03
  I love Oshie. Shout out to Oshie, but this was
• 1:06:05
  like different. I know.
• 1:06:06
  Yeah, you know, I like the idea by the way, getting a guest Co
• 1:06:08
  host that knows. Yeah, right.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, I'll bring in Robbie, Sushard and I.
• 1:06:13
  Interview him too. But I get, I know Shimmy for
• 1:06:16
  years and I've watched him. I've watched him, you know, he
• 1:06:20
  was always a superstar, but I watched him really like that.
• 1:06:22
  The world sees it now and and the the good that he's doing is
• 1:06:26
  amazing. And so I thank you for allowing
• 1:06:28
  me to Co host this this special. Podcast.
• 1:06:30
  I appreciate. It wasn't really me.
• 1:06:31
  I had to get O's permission. This is what it is.
• 1:06:33
  No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
• 1:06:34
  But Oshi, you were missed. This is so much fun this.
• 1:06:37
  Thank you. I really appreciate it.
• 1:06:38
  So who's that guy that you're gonna?
• 1:06:40
  I would say MO Robbie, MO Robbie, Great personality, has
• 1:06:43
  so much to offer. He's a real rock star.
• 1:06:46
  The guy, he's just. Special get him on the horn.
• 1:06:48
  I love that's the way we do it. Call now.
• 1:06:50
  Yep. OK, what's up, MO?
• 1:06:53
  I'm on I'm on a podcast. It's called the None of your
• 1:06:55
  Business podcast with Michael Greenfield and this turns Hi MO
• 1:06:58
  and they on the podcast they ask who would you recommend as a
• 1:07:02
  good guest and the first name and it was planned.
• 1:07:04
  I knew it was going to be MO Robbie and they wanted to know
• 1:07:06
  if you could come next week. I love it.
• 1:07:10
  I would. Love to be there.
• 1:07:11
  I owe you from last summer. The answer is yes, but only if
• 1:07:14
  you see hosts afterwards, you know.
• 1:07:16
  Who comes in? That's great.
• 1:07:20
  Let's go by the way. You know, I was going to say
• 1:07:25
  like, you know, we're going to take over Lakewood soon.
• 1:07:26
  We've got the best, the best of Lakewood coming here.
• 1:07:28
  It's Elva. It's who wants to be the next
• 1:07:34
  act. It's gonna be tough.
• 1:07:36
  You're gonna do fine. Our episodes, okay, okay, fine.
• 1:07:39
  We'll air it in a month. All right, thanks.
• 1:07:42
  Appreciate it. Amazing.
• 1:07:45
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• 1:07:48
  for such an amazing production that comes out always, every
• 1:07:51
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• 1:07:53
  Thanks for the people behind the scenes.
• 1:07:55
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• 1:07:58
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• 1:08:00
  behind it. Like I said earlier, it really
• 1:08:01
  feels like everyone's part of the podcast because without all
• 1:08:04
  the people here, we wouldn't have the luxury of being able to
• 1:08:06
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• 1:08:09
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• 1:08:11
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• 1:08:14
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• 1:08:17
  It's a wrap. Thank you so much.
• 1:08:18
  Wow, that's. Great, by the way.
• 1:08:20
  Lot of fun.