Latest / Play 4 Keeps Podcast / Episode 138: Luke Kornet vs The Hoes!!
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- Greg: All this shit that's been going on, know, I who I haven't heard from Chauncey billups Jax: Hahaha Greg: like that was just such a crazy thing that happened in November and I haven't really seen like much of a follow-up which leads me to believe that nigga did something Jax: I well, I think it wasn't Pablo Torre. It wasn't he investigating that too. He ain't found nothing else new about that. Greg: He has like a lot of things on his on his own to do list and I think nothing is going to triumph ⁓ the Clippers. I think I think the Los Angeles Clippers are on the top of his list Kawhi Leonard and specific but if he had time said he might he might go to Portland. He might but. I damn. Jax: Yeah. That's f- He's probably trying to dodge like being their assassin just trying to kill him. Greg: Hey man, look here. It can get spooky like that. I'm not gonna lie to you. For sure. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Man, welcome back to another episode of the Play for Keys podcast. The only podcast where we do something different. Not an hour, not an episode. It's a daily thing over here. Jax: See you later. Greg: ⁓ I feel like we did more in-person pods than we did virtuals this past month. I just feel... Jax: think that's actually true, right? Greg: Low key, because we missed a week. We missed a week. did. Yeah. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Yeah, because did I drop that? The one in January that recorded in February, did I drop it in February? I did. Because we recorded on the 31st. We recorded on the 31st, yeah. Jax: Yeah, because I think like, yeah, were like the next day, the next day was February. Greg: Yeah, man, to in person parts, who would have thought? At last one, that last one was last minute, too, like that wasn't even bland. It just. I guess I got stuck outside. Hey, hey, I got free time. I got free time. ⁓ so much free time. I low key forgot the buttons that I have, man, but. But let's let's let's. Let's get back to the don't back to the basics. Jax: Look at us. Random as fuck, random as fuck. figure it out to get there. Greg: donations Niggas ain't heard them shits in a minute. I'm not gonna lie to you. It's been a minute. Better bid it. ⁓ but yeah, link down below. We appreciate all the donations, especially during that time right now. You know what mean? ⁓ I was looking for the Mike Tomlin. We pushed our way instead. We do not care. We do not care. First thing we do not care about. Damn, they almost say Max Crosby. Sharon Moore. Sharon Moore ⁓ pleaded no contest. You know, for people that are not in the the court world, that basically means it doesn't mean that he is ⁓ Jax: the Greg: guilty, but he is going to be doesn't mean he's innocent and they're basically going to punish him as if he was guilty in exchange of dropping his three major charges, one that was the breaking and entering the stalking. And I forgot the other one. But all that butter knife shit, everything that was going on, basically dropping all those heinous ones and just saying ⁓ basically severe telecommunications ⁓ violations or something, you know, something kind of Jax: Tell me he's in it. Greg: on a smaller case. Basically. Jax: Yeah, malicious use of a telecommunication device in a domestic relationship and trespassing. I didn't know that first one was even a fucking thing. I don't even know what that means. Greg: I'm Didn't know either. I don't know. But basically, ⁓ allegedly, what he was arrested for versus what actually happened is not lining up. And people are kind of saying the police shouldn't have probably probably shouldn't have arrested him to begin with based off of what they know now. Off of the false of our stuff. Also, side note, if you're wondering about that, that Michigan staffer, her contract got expired in February and did not get renewed. So they're both out. Jax: DUN DUN Greg: ⁓ That's how the cookie crumbles sometimes but Like we said, we do not care. You do not care. You think I care about white love man? I'm Disrespectfully, I do I do not care. I do not care. Just like I do not care about Patrick Beverly. We do not care Chicago legend ⁓ Mr. Basketball in Chicago. ⁓ He actually did win that award Jax: Yeah? Yeah. Damn. Greg: He's trying to pop back up and he's doing it in the worst way possible. Getting back at Trey Young after three months of being on hiatus in a podcast that was taken away from him by white people. Jax, how do you feel about the resurgence of Pat Bev? Jax: Yeah. I do not care about Pastor Beverly at all. He beat the, or all the charges were dropped from when he was accused of beating up his sister or something like that. And now he's trying to pop back up and go, ⁓ let me tell my story. And I seen like ⁓ a trailer of, he's gonna do like a, I don't know it. I don't know what it is, but he got like the cinematic lighting and he's sitting down in the chair and he got like the solemn look. And I'm like, nigga, I'm not watching that. I don't. I don't care what you have to say, bro. Greg: Do you feel like your chances would have increased had he just wrote it on Substack? Jax: I was never paying attention to anything Patrick Beverly. I hate all of his takes. I hate all of his takes. Greg: ⁓ Yeah, I can agree with that. can agree with that. I can hold you. Yeah. And then Pat, got to like when you come back, you have to start with like what's current. You can't circle shit back like you can't like you just got to understand like that's not going to hit the same because he was out of pocket like he was already out of the scene. You got to just continue with what's already going on right now. Can't go back. Jax: Yeah. Like you can't try to come back and take a victory lap on trail. Like everybody's moved on from that whole thing. Like nobody cares. Greg: We genuinely do not give a fuck. I think he retweeted some shit that was back in early December. Brother, nah, that shit was so foul that I thought that my shit just wasn't refreshing good enough at the time. Whole time, it's you, nigga. You putting this bullshit back on my feed. I don't care. We do not care. Jax: Good. I told you I was right. That was literally last year. I don't care no more. Greg: Come on now. Come on. A bit your beater upper, please. We gotta relax. We must relax. ⁓ Next thing we do not care about, Donald Trump and his college sports meeting, I'm gonna be honest with you, Jax, I don't know anything about this. Might have to take this away. What is our president doing? Jax: Yeah. Yeah. Nobody knows. He doesn't even know, but he held a meeting. think it was either yesterday or it might have actually been today. I think it was today between a whole bunch of famous people, the quote unquote fixed college sports, people that included, know, Nick Slavin was there. Urban Meyer was there. I think Tiger Woods was there for some reason. ⁓ Tim Tebow was supposed to be there, but he didn't go. It was a couple of billionaires. Marco Rubio was there. Donald Trump, of course, was there. Linda McMahon, was the secretary of the Department of Education. And she used to be Vince McMahon's wife or some shit. It's just a whole bunch of people, their whole mission is to fix college sports. And as you can tell from just the list of names I have. I said, you can tell nothing was going to happen. also they're saying, we need to fix college sports because NIL is going crazy. But they didn't have anybody there to represent the students' voices or anything like that. It's just a whole bunch of people are upset that everybody's making a lot of this money off of NIL. And I do think they're going about it in a very weird way as far as NIL, because it is the Wild Wild West. But everybody knows this committee is not going to solve nothing. it was a waste of time. I guess a PR opportunity for all those people so, ⁓ like, we do not care, Greg: Yeah, I don't really give a damn. The first thing I did was Google Tiger Woods because I just don't remember college being next to this nigga at all. But he did attend Stanford for two years. But that nigga was a pro. That nigga was just doing it for fun. He was just being in college for fun. He was. Jax: He was like, niggas knew what Tiger Woods was when he was a child. Greg: Yeah, like, yeah, he wasn't getting no back from Stanford like that for real, that was. No, bro. And that was like back in 1994. Yeah, that's prime tiger. That's he chose that school because it was red and then it only was red on Sundays. it was was a whooping was hoping ⁓ I knew Tim Tebow Tim Tebow probably would have been a little bit more progressive with that conversation. But fortunately, Jax: Exactly. You Greg: He's been on his own mission. don't know if you've been keeping up with him. ⁓ Jax: ⁓ yeah. I feel like that's probably why he didn't want to come. Like I'm not finna be there with that, that nigga. If I'm trying to fight pedophiles, I'm not finna sit down with one. Greg: You know what I'm saying, bro? He's fighting a real important fight right now. I've been looking at it. I've been studying that nigga for about like a good 30 minutes. I'm going down like a rabbit hole with that nigga. Oh, he's. Yeah, he might need to stay protected. Somebody might shoot that. I'm not going to lie. It's just way that nigga got way too much evidence. That nigga talks like he he he he didn't seen the real files already. So. Jax: Yeah. Sit. Greg: Yeah, I don't really give a fuck about it. And I don't know why the president so like gung-ho about dabbling in college sports. I don't get it. Jax: He's trying to do anything he can to take the attention off of all his other crazy shit going on. Greg: One hour. ⁓ Jax: N***a started a war because of it. Like, what are we fucking doing, bro? Greg: Even the most oblivious niggas done saw their gas prices go up. on now. Niggas ain't had nothing to do with this all of a sudden. ⁓ shit, $3? What nigga Trump doing? Now all of a sudden, now they know. Yeah, it's unavoidable, my nigga. Distract all you want, we do not care. We don't care about you doing this sports shit. Last, finally not least, Cal State Bakersfield, an assistant coach for that basketball team. was moonlighting as a pimp in not one, not two, not three, but four different states. Jax, I've never been in the game. I just never knew you could do that across states. You know what mean? Like, I didn't know that was like a thing. Like you can go across like four different states. Jax: I think if you like, well I guess that's literally sex trafficking. think if you just go from state to state with a prostitute or whatever, I guess that's pimping in four states. I don't fucking know, but he's in prison now. He's on like, he's held without bail. Greg: That's fun. Jax: He's got 11 charges against him, including possession of automatic firearms, high capacity magazines, possession of methamphetamine, possession of marijuana with intent to sell, of child porn. This nigga's crazy, bro. Greg: Yes. This is actually a horrible nigga. ⁓ This is a very horrible nigga. So I'm just assuming the quote unquote people that you're primping out are probably underage. If you got mad shit like that on your phone. ⁓ I just don't think you have like shit like that on your phone and then you talking to old bitches. I think you kind of. Jax: ⁓ what the fuck? Greg: are somebody that Tim Tebow is looking for. You're one of those red dots on the United States map that that nigga has. ⁓ Put that nigga in the jail. Crazy. Jax: Yeah. Yeah, this thing is crazy. This thing is crazy. Greg: Lock his ass up. Lock his ass up. But ⁓ now that we got that shit out the way, let's talk about some real shit that we have to talk about. Jax has been mentioning this shit for about at least three months, ever since Jacoby Brissette started an NFL football game for the Arizona Cardinals. It's time, Jax. Kyla Murray got released. We'll just talk about the football side. We'll talk about, you know, baseball and the field. But let's talk about the football side. And I'll say. That I texted my girl, I texted my girl this verbatim, I have a screenshot because I just wanted to see what kind of motion that nigga Kyla Murray had. ⁓ I just wanted to test the temperature and I wanted to test my girl's ball on ball knowledge, honestly. ⁓ I said, Kyla Murray got released today. She. ⁓ Jax: Alright. Greg: She reacted with a question mark on my message and said, who the hell is that? All caps LMAO. I said, LOL, he plays in the NFL. He said he got released from what? I said from the Arizona Cardinals. They cut him. Next, next text. ⁓ my God, is he OK? Did he go to the hospital? Now I know you're trolling me. I said, I said, yes, he's okay. She said, glad to hear it. LOL. Poor guy. He looks so small. I yes, he's short. ⁓ He said, he said, he said, the NFL can't keep getting away with this. And then after that, I wanted to see if she was fucking with me. So I, in the next sentence, I was like, ⁓ yeah, but the real shit I was about to text you is the Fond Diz got released. Jax: you That's a funny way to fuck. Greg: She was like, oh shit, LMAO. Oh fuck. I was like, okay, you know what's going on. You were just trying to play games. You were just pulling my leg. But Jax, what does this mean for Kyler, bro? What does this really mean? Jax: Yeah Honestly, it's good. Loki is good for him because he's like I said, he's still getting $36 million guaranteed from this next season. So that's gonna change about that. And that also means he can sign wherever he wants for the minimum because he's already making $37 million. Like he can really fit under any team's situation. And there's a whole lot of options. I've been saying the Jets because they've been needing the quarterback for. fucking ever, but you can go there. Who else? The Vikings need one cause nine isn't good. Fucking... ⁓ Greg: Bro, stop calling him nine, bro. I'm tired of this trash ass nigga getting cool nicknames. Bro, fuck no. Jax: He goes to the Falcons like really it opens up everything to him and I like to on the Cardinal side real fast. It don't make like Cool, I guess you guys don't want Kyle and Murray whatever but Who else it's not a quarterback trap y'all not getting Fernando like Fernando Mendoza going number one to the Raiders. So you're not getting him like Who's gonna be our quarterback next season? Cuz y'all team already in general is not that good in the first place. So just, it feels like a very odd decision, but like, think it's gonna make, bro. Greg: They got they got they got ⁓ They got jack they got jacks as the gym They riding with your Kobe nigga. That's that's their quarter back Don't try to don't try to bring them back. Don't try to bring them back. They're not that dumb. I'll try to bring them back Jax: I think he's a free agent off season. ⁓ Price might be too much, man. It's Jacoby Percet. Greg: What pick do they have? I know it's a top one, but. Jax: It's either three or four. Greg: Maybe they go get Ty Simpson. Jax: I think it's not good though. Definitely not working. Greg: I didn't say he was good. I didn't say I didn't say he was good. I was just saying maybe that's what they go get because I don't know what they're going to get. Geno Smith. We'll talk about him later. But like, I don't know who is going to be there. Justin Fields. This goes on. I don't know. Well, and ⁓ shit. Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson. Hey, Loki, maybe. Jax: Maybe they could like, they could do that. They do need a running back. Greg: That might be like his last chance, know, Anthony Richardson. Jax: Last chance on the Cardinals, a team that can't block a team with no receiver, or their one receiver was supposed to be good. Sucks, I still don't get why Marvin Harrison sucks. I have no idea why he's bad. Receiving coordinates. Greg: They started getting better when Jacoby was on the center, though. I'll say that. Jax: Maybe they do resign Jacoby. Greg: Maybe they, maybe they resigned Jacoby. they, I will, on no bullshit, I really do think like, maybe you do go and just like take a flyer or take a swing on ⁓ Anthony Richardson. Cause I don't think, I don't think it would cost much to go get him. Just fuck it, why not? What you got to lose? Not good this year. And everybody in your division is fucking cold as fuck. Cause they all had double digit win seasons and they all went to the playoffs and did well. You're not competing with that. Jax: And, hey. Greg: I don't even know what. do I do? Tua? What you want? Like, I don't know. I don't know who else is out there. Jax: See you in the next one. I mean, I guess. Greg: Russ? Jax: I don't know, man. just feel like, just the Cardinals just, they've been trash for so long, it doesn't really make no sense. I'm not gonna lie. They've been like, they've just been bad for really Cotter Murray's entire career. And it doesn't really make sense to me, because Cotter Murray's never like, he hasn't been that bad in all honesty. He's just small and he can hurt sometimes, but I don't even call him injury prone for real. Like they just suck as a franchise. Greg: It's it's Kyle Murray is Kyle. Kyle Murray is NFL Trey Young. And I I say it and I do feel like Trey Young is a better talent. But I'm just saying I feel like Kyle Murray just masked a lot of shit that was going on in the Cardinals ⁓ because he was very talented. But he made them look better than what they actually were. It's just like, bro, y'all niggas. Jax: Yeah. And it's easier to pin the struggles they have on Kyle Murray because they remember that whole, oh, he plays video games too much, or poor, then oh, he's not a leader. It's easier to pin stuff on him because why not? So in the car, people are like, oh, because Kyle is not good enough. And it's fun to make short jokes to him as well. So that also just makes everything easier too. Greg: That was crazy. Very true. But a team that hasn't gotten, you know, a team that hasn't given up faith in well over eight years is, you know, the Oakland Athletics, although they're not in Oakland anymore. I think they're transitioning to Las Vegas now. But, you know, they still have their draft rights from the baseball world. They say he can come back at any time. Jax, do you feel like? Jax: Yeah. Greg: That's something he should really consider. Jax: Like for real for yes, he's not going to but he definitely should have because One he's small for NFL but he's like five tens. I think maybe like 200 like he's not he's not very big. He's small Like he really anyway, he was a top ten He was the number one overall pick in the NFL draft while also being a top ten pick in the MLB draft that same year like he Greg: That's cold as fuck. I'm not gonna lie to you. That's cold as fuck. Jax: That's just how good of a talent he was. could have, he could have chose the MLB and probably been fine by now. Like he'd be, ⁓ cause their money's crazy than NFL money. So like, he really could have done that. I don't think he will. Greg: Yeah, it would just, yeah, it would just, it just probably would have took a little longer to get to that big ass bag, because you got to go through that fucking minors and double A, triple A, all that stuff. So it'll probably, yeah. Jax: Even then, was still a top 10. He was still a top 10 pick. Niggas saw that talent, even though they knew, oh, he's probably going to go to the NFL. They were like, we'll still draft him. He should do it. He's not going to, because I feel like that's admitting defeat, and meaning you quote unquote lost in the NFL. that's a very valid pathway, in my opinion. Greg: That's, yeah, that's. I was looking at it and I was just like, think the only reason why. I think the only reason why he wouldn't have done it or he won't do it is because he probably. He probably should have gotten like released or traded, maybe like maybe two or three seasons ago, even though that would have been crazy to do back then. like for the baseball track, you're 28, which means you're probably realistically going to spend at least. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Even if he's at tip top shape, he'll probably spend at least two years in those minors before he gets called up to the majors. Which puts him at like what, 30, 31? I'm not doubting that he's not gonna be cold and that he's always gonna be fast. But I just wanna know how long he gonna have that speed. Because he was playing shortstop, I think. He was playing like some speedy positions where he like stealing bases like he was a do-it-all type nigga. So I was just wondering like, OK, like the speed and acceleration from a baseball standpoint, like when do they start slowing down? Like when do they start regressing in baseball years? Because I know pitchers is different. You stand on the mound. not being athletic for real, like with your legs. So that's different. I feel like you can be like K.D. age and do some shit like that. But. Jax: I think so. ⁓ Greg: When you running and catching, like, I don't know. I don't know that world. So that's my only thing. But who knows? I don't know. Jax: Yeah, I don't know. If you don't know, I definitely don't know because I know that's my name. ⁓ Greg: But I will say he probably does have like a fresh arm though. Jax: I don't know, think he's gonna be pretty fast for a while, I feel like, because he's still fucking fast as shit. He toured the ACL a couple of seasons ago, he's still fast. I think his speed's gonna last him. Greg: I think he'll be, like, I'm not, like, I'm not worried about, like, his arm or anything like that, because, like, I feel like his arm is probably gonna be fresh. Alexa, stop. Nigga, what the fuck? I think his arm is, like, fresher than anybody that's gonna be in the eight-thirties. Like, he's not gonna have no kind of Tommy John surgery, none of that. Like, he's gonna have one of the freshest arms, so he's gonna be fine, but that'll be interesting, though. Jax: Good night. ⁓ for sure. Greg: He'll make a lot of waves and I would like probably intently watch baseball more because of it. Maybe just just off the strength. But. ⁓ Jax: Yeah. I'd have to see something, I'd have to see like what could he do? What can he do? So I'll be excited to see that. But he's not gonna do it, so. Greg: Do you I'll say this, you feel like within the next. I'll say three years. Within the next three seasons, do you feel like he would make more money as an NFL quarterback or go in the baseball route if he started today? Jax: Well, I mean, we already know he's going to make $37 million this upcoming season. So there's that. So I'd say he's going to make more money as the NFL because he's not going to get to that. Because you were talking about he might have to go through mining or whatever. So I don't think he's going to get that big bag from the MLB as fast as the current bag he's getting now. And hypothetically, he's getting this money right now. He plays with the middle of them somewhere. He does a good enough job. They give him like, all right, cool. We'll assign you for like a smooth like. $30 million a year or something, probably a little bit more than that, but like still, so I can see that. Greg: Now, I will say the athletics are not like this crazy team. They're not this crazy good team. That's the reason why they moved them from Oakland to wherever the fuck they're going now. So there could be a case where like he kind of like gets moved up a little bit faster than usual because there ain't no real competition in front of him. And on top of that, there's probably like fan pressure to like get butts in seats ⁓ just off of the strength of, ⁓ even if we suck, need something entertaining to watch. So that might be a situation that happens. You got so many fucking games. Like they play like 162 of these bitches. Like by game 80, he might be called up in that bitch. don't ⁓ I don't know. But I would say NFL. I just don't know where he's going to go though. There's plenty of options. I just don't know who's going to do it though. Jax: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, since we're talking. Yeah, like I've been thinking jets, but I've also seen the reports that it's crazy. I think I got a let me see if I have it. Sneeze but it's not coming out. Anyways. But yeah, I was thinking what bro? But I was thinking Jets, but I've unfortunately seen some new that saying the Jets approach to the final quarterback that's off season is they believe they can get somebody like Jacoby Brissette, Geno Smith or Carson Wentz with Carson Wentz believed to be their preferred option. ⁓ Greg: That's the worst feeling in the world. Jax: And there's also a resounding belief that Kyler Murray is going to end up signing with the Vikings, which I mean, the Vikings are a good spot because they got Justin Jefferson. So who wouldn't want to, and the Viking defense is amazing. So like who wouldn't want to go there, but Jets for the Aaron, Aaron Glenn for the love of God, please do not make Carson with your starting quarterback. I want you to succeed so bad as a black head coach. If you go into a season with Carson with as your starting quarterback, it's going to hurt my soul so much. This is not even funny. Greg: And didn't he have like a season end injury? Jax: Who, Carson Wentz? I don't know, because he was like, because he was a backup the entire time, I think he did get to play, but maybe he did get hurt. Greg: Yeah, didn't he like, some shit? I thought he tore some shit this- Yeah, he got a chance to play because JJ McCarthy got injured a couple of times, which led them to like their third string quarterback that was like, god awful. I forgot his name. Jax: Amen. Yeah, don't y'all gotta be so, y'all just, Jets, y'all gotta be so fucking for real. Like, y'all cannot do this. Y'all cannot do this, If Carson Wentz, if all people coming off of season ending injuries, you're like, you know what? We can sign him. Nigga, what are you doing? Oh my God. Greg: I think he his shirt. I'm like, he did something. Maybe maybe. We can sign him. That is crazy. You do better go on Geno Smith. Jax: He had a season ending shoulder injury. ⁓ my gosh. Greg: I knew it was out there. Jax: They better fucking not, bro. They better not. Greg: That's fucking that's crazy. I do you do better going going and getting Joe Flacco at that point. I'd respect it. Jax: I would rather you keep starting J.J. McCarthy than let me go try this cartoon or rather not, or if I was the Viking, I'd rather keep starting J.J. McCarthy than play cartoon, which is saying something like, Jens, please don't be stupid. Please don't be stupid, Greg: I'm gonna let you know right now. And they could go to the Jets and Glenn. I keep in this job. I'm so sorry. Jax: He's not drunk. And they was already making fun of Aaron Glynn, because they were like, oh, he fell asleep at the con. I don't think he fell asleep at the con, I think he was looking at his phone. As a nigga with small eyes whose eyes already look like they're closed, I feel like he was just looking at his phone. Greg: Nah, yeah, that'd be me too. When I have my glasses off, it do be looking like I'm sleeping. Jax: Yeah, but can, please don't. ⁓ Greg: effort. But yeah, it's not looking at I don't know man is not looking favorable. Jax: But since we're talking quarterbacks, I wanna talk a little bit about some of the other people who look like they could be on the move. So that seemed like a little list of a couple quarterbacks. Although Daniel Jones, he's on this list and he just got a franchise tag by the Colts. So he's not really going nowhere, especially because he got the 200 killings too. We just talked about Kyle Murray a little bit. I say he's going to the Jets, but it looks like he might go to the Vikings. But there's other names on this list include Tua, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith, and Malik Willis. And out of those four remaining quarterbacks, the thing that stands out to me the most is like Aaron Rodgers because I thought this nigga was retiring. I'm like, why did this nigga retire yet? Greg: He saw Mike McCarthy was gonna be the Steelers coach, so I can say one more. Jax: I thought they didn't like each other so I'm just like I f***ing hate Greg: You know, time heals. Time heals, bro. Jax: And the Steelers, respectfully, why? I wouldn't want Aaron Rogers back. That nigga wasn't good. Like, he was aight, but he was as good as a off, as good as an off injured 40 year old quarterback could be. Like, he looked like a 40 year old, he came off in the, he looked like he was a goat who was a 40 year old quarterback who was coming off in the kill. He's like, most 40 year old quarterbacks can't play as well as he did, but it still wasn't that good to be completely honest with you. Like. Greg: I mean if you're the Steelers what is your other option? Jax: Right? Because two was on this list and two, I don't think two is going to start and then it fell like respectfully. I mean, maybe Malik Willis because I think there's been some chatter about Malik was going to the Cardinals as well because their new head coach is, yeah, their new head coach is Mike LaFleur. Greg: like Yeah, like... Like... Jax: And Mike LaFleur is Matt LaFleur's little brother. And Matt LaFleur is the head coach of the Packers who coached Malik Willie. So people are saying he might go there because they more than likely know each other or are familiar with each other because his coach was his brother. still, I don't feel like bringing back Aaron. Greg: Hmm. I feel like with the Malik Willis thing, I try my best to root for Black Quarterbacks because of the, you know, historically what shit gotta go through. But I really, and I hope I'm wrong, I do feel like that Malik Willis is gonna feel like that Brock Oswalt into the Texans type of signing. Like. Jax: Of course, Damn, it be that bad. Greg: Like or just in that sense of like, you had a couple nice games with the Packers and somebody who can get you a bag because of just the state of where the average quarterback is. Like he's getting a bag and somebody is going to be desperate enough to say here, let's make some magic like we just got some money, let's give it to you. And people are going to look back at that contract and like say, why? Jax: He's getting the bag no matter what. He's getting the bag. Greg: was Malik Willis making that that much money my nigga like respectfully. I put that nigga on the same level as Tyler Huntley. He's cool. I'm not giving that nigga 70 mil gang. I'm not giving that nigga 60. I'm not giving that nigga 50. I can't. Jax: Damn. He's not making, he's gonna make like, I think he's gonna make a smooth like, what did Justin Fields get last year? Cause did Justin Fields get 20 or 30? I think Malika was gonna get like a smooth like 30, 35 million. Greg: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, he's that's the still. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like when they put they put Brock when they put Brock Osweiler and on that 70 mil, I remember it being 70 mil because I thought it was crazy then. Jax: Which is, I fucking come up and you're like, what? I was on the minimum. It was that was contracts weren't that like that was expensive contracts weren't 70 million back in I remember that Greg: Yeah, Contra wasn't even that crazy back then yet. Like that was that was a crazy contract for its time. And I'm like, ⁓ but like I said, I hope he proves me wrong wherever he decides to go. It's just I have a bad feeling about my faith in Malik Willis. I just never I never saw that vision. Call me a hater. But it is what it is. But I think outside of that, I think, too, I got to pack it up. Even though he won't, but I need him to pack it up. Kyle and Murray still got some burns. Jax: One quarterback who's not on this list is Anthony Richardson. And I've been seeing, I think people have been saying that the Browns have been asking around about him in the quarterback room with Shador Sanders, Dillian Gabriel, Deshaun Watson, and Anthony Richardson. Sounds like a nightmare, to be honest. Greg: It doesn't. It doesn't because I just. It's already it's already a nightmare right now. It's already a nightmare right now. You adding Richardson. Jax: It's gonna be a nightmare for me. But it's like gonna be from the PR perspective. Cause you know, it's gonna be the people who are obsessed with Shador. There's gonna be people who like, ⁓ Deshaun Watson and they're gonna be like, ⁓ we paid him all this money. They need to start him. And also people can be like, ⁓ Deshaun Watson's a freak. We don't need to start him. There's gonna be people who's gonna be talking shit about Dylan Gabriel. Even if, I don't think Dylan Gabriel is that good, but like say he ends up getting that starting job. Niggas are gonna be going crazy over that. then. Anthony Richardson, the idea of Anthony Richardson is better than the play. It's just, it's just gonna be a whole mess. I don't know. I don't know. And they got a first time head coach. And they also just lost all their alignment in free agency. Like they don't have any alignment signs. Those is gonna be a, it's gonna be a mess. Greg: I thought they grabbed somebody. I thought they grabbed somebody. I think they grabbed an offensive tackle from the Texans, I think. Jax: ⁓ yeah, no, didn't. Yeah, in trade, we'll get to it. I don't really care about the OI from Texas, so we won't get to that one. But they did get alignment from the Texans. they got, I think they actually signed two alignments. Greg: A Lyman, but still, they still need the beef of they all on. That's not the Yeah. I get where you're coming from. It will look spooky, and the defense will still look good. So we'll see how they go. Jax: Yeah, they still need more. Yeah. Malfurion is gonna get mad, he's gonna ask for some more money. They're gonna be like, okay, then give it to him. Greg: Yeah, I just just don't I don't know what the landing spot is going to be for Anthony. It'll probably be on some you're going to be a backup for somebody nice. ⁓ TBH, like. ⁓ Not saying that he will go to Baltimore, but it will have to be like a Lamar Jackson, like caliber type of nigga. he's like back in. But I see I don't. What choice will he have, nigga, like at some point, she gonna start doing them down. You want to take some shit? Jax: I don't think he's going to want to go there, but then again, he probably won't even have say in a lot of the shit. That's true. Greg: Unless you just believe that you can just stay with the Indianapolis Colts, but like the coast already saying that they're giving him permission to like seek trades, you know, or seek teams already. Yeah. Jax: That means they don't really want him. But if I was Danny Richardson, I'd be like, Siri, Danny Don't just tore his Achilles. He might not be on the way for real. Like, let me see if I can feel him in some of this shit. Greg: That's what saying. And I don't even know what the status of Riley Leonard is anymore. well, none of the niggas. I think you read this and it was good. Jax: I think it wasn't good though, I think it's not good. But then again, none of the quarterbacks in the court were good. Sorry. It's fucking crazy. It's screwing. Oh, and another quarterback who's awesome. Greg: So it goes back to, it goes back to Cleveland Browns. Like, okay, I don't like them niggas, but that might be my best chance of starting if I just go to them niggas. Fuck it, why not? Jax: I don't think the Browns don't got receivers neither. They just got defense. Greg: They just got Darryl Judy who plays sometimes like E Hoops sometimes and Harold Fanon. Jax: Jerry Judy is good like every third game. Like he'll be asked like two games in a row and then have like 100 yards and then be asked two more games and have 100. Like Jerry Judy is very weird. I thought he can be great too when he came out in the draft. Greg: that I was gonna be solid. You go to Miami, though. He's a Florida guy, I mean, what the Florida? Jax: guess but well I mean Miami don't have a line but other than that HN their running back is good they got Jalen Wadu Greg: And then they'll probably I mean, they released they released Tyreek, right? Jax: Everything else is pretty bad. Yeah. Greg: Okay, well, it's not like they're get anything back for it Yeah, I would just focus the offense around A Chan and then just don't fuck up. Don't turn the ball over, honestly. Jax: That's easier said than done with Anthony Rich's. Respect, with all due respect, With all due respect, it's easier said than done with that. Another quarterback who's on this list is Kirk Cousins cuz he just got released by the Falcons or he's gonna get released by the Falcons in my head He's gonna I think didn't try to play one in my head I think he should go to the Vikings but the Vikings might get kind of married. So if that happens they never fucking mind Greg: Niggas retirement bro, he's not going home. Maybe the coat, maybe the coats go around them. Is it like old niggas? Maybe I don't know. I really don't. really don't know. I'm just throwing ideas out. This is one of the most confusing quarterback situations in all like quarterback off seasons in quite some time where it's like I'm seeing quarterbacks that can't like we don't even bring up James Winston. I feel like he can get a job this year like a starting job this year. I feel like he's better than like a lot of niggas that we talked about. But it just feels like. Jax: how many? I don't fucking know you. Yeah. This is quarterback in the building. Greg: I just feel like the quarterback, like the quarterback openings, I feel like those teams, there are plenty of people that they want. I mean, there's plenty of people that they can get, but I feel like they're treating it as if, like, there's just a certain type of quarterback we're looking for. y'all don't really have too many options this year to be picky right now, man. I'm just gonna be honest with you. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Like you need to go ahead, get somebody before you run out of real options. And now you're looking at Ty Simpson and now you're looking at whoever else is out there. I don't know the other quarterbacks. It's like in free agency that are buns. Jax: All the, all the quarterback, like all the current quarterback options have like crazy for like Malik Willis is unproven, Kyle Murray, he'd be getting hurt and he's short. Cousins is old, Daniel Jones injured, Anthony Richardson not good. Like, Geno Smith was, Geno Smith was another quarterback who just got released by the Raiders as we're talking about quarterbacks. He also got released. Geno Smith was good and then he just became ass. Like, I don't. Greg: You Bap-Yor. Bap-Yor, nigga. Jax: It is, it's a crazy off season for quarterbacks. Did you see, you saw what Wendy said about Geno Smith? Greg: Wendy? Jax: Wendy's, like the the food franchise. Greg: No. Jax: know, they randomly for whatever reason decided to shoot a stray at Gino because he got released. Wendy's, they saw the notification in court didn't say in case things don't work out in free agency, we're looking for a chief tasting officer, which is nigga what? To a Gino replied, get your cheese up first and shit in on Wendy's. Greg: Did Wendy's like politely tell this nigga to put fries in the bag? Jax: Yeah, or at least to taste their fries. I don't know what made them do this. know Dina probably like, who do they fuck me for? Because I know Dina is probably just chilling, not doing shit. Greg: Wow. Yes! Hey, have you been keeping up with them CEO niggas that have been like tasting their own? Yeah. Jax: Eating them burgers? Yes, bro. I don't know what they're doing, bro. Greg: Because it all started with McDonald's. ⁓ Just why I don't be eating them niggas no more. like they, their CEO called their burger a product and barely like was like damn they wanted to spit his burger out. And then it just prompted a whole bunch of CEOs to like, like trying their burgers and authentically like really enjoying them. And the Wendy's one. Jax: You Yes. ⁓ Greg: The Wendy's one was like taking mad jabs like the CEO. He came in there. He was he ate his burger and whatever. He fought with it. He went to the frosty machine. He was like, ⁓ this thing, you know, this thing always seems to work and it was just taking jabs and fucking McDonald's. He got a fry dip that bitch in the frost and you ate it. He was like, I was like, that nigga was taking masteries. I was like, ⁓ Jax: You're asshole. Greg: DCO niggas is going crazy. I saw Freddy's do it like yesterday. I'm like, wow. These niggas really. Jax: I seen a KFC dude, I didn't watch the video but people were like, ⁓ the owner of KFC is British, that explains so much and it made me laugh. Greg: Oh my God. I didn't know that. It was like, it was like, want the, I want the Popeye CEO to eat two biscuits dry. Like it's just been like a whole bunch. It's been a whole bunch of things niggas been wanting. Jax: Nobody fucking knows. These are stupid, bro. Greg: They them niggas them niggas are requesting Taco Bell CEO to try these shit in the video recorded it's been it's been like a whole thing, but That's funny. It seems like Wendy's from from top to bottom on throw shade no matter what and that's why Jax: You know, I don't think he's watched all the way, so I think he could end up somewhere that's nice. I don't think he's gonna end up with the Jets though, because there was a team who drafted him and they hated him, so I wouldn't go back. But if they throw me a bag, I guess I'd have to. Greg: See, that's the problem right now. You hate when them NBA niggas do that. Jax: I mean, yeah, but if they told you know, starting spot, if they're the only team, if you know, still wants to start because I don't know how old he is, but I remember he had all the years, essentially all the years off because he was a backup for so long. So I don't think his body is as worn down as some other like, I think he's like 35. So I don't think his body's as worn down as like the typical 35 year quarterbacks. So if they just need like a one year slot. Greg: Yeah, he's 35, he'll turn. Yeah, he'll turn 36 in October. But yeah, he's 35. Jax: You say he's 30? Okay. If the team is like a little one year stop gap and they give me $20 million and I still want to start, then I guess I play for them. Greg: ⁓ Yeah, never mind. We might have to do one of our generational tech talks when talked about. You know, is the you know, when we did is this running back washed. I have to do it for QB's. We might have to do it for QB's this off season. There's just a lot of like questionable niggas that we're about to see get it borderline paid money that they have no business earning. So we will have to what? Jax: ⁓ yeah. Yes. Yeah. Greg: We'll have to circle back. We'll have to circle back. Jax: But to get through with some more NFL news real fast, I don't even feel like pulling them up all the way. But David Montgomery running back for the Lions, they traded him to the Texans. I think it's a pretty solid trade. The Texans have needed a running back since Joe Mixon mysteriously just got injured and nobody knows what happened. So it's a solid trade for the Lions. Greg: Yeah, I've been here. I've been I've been deep diving with them niggas. They just released Joe Joe mixing today. I've been hearing niggas got shot on this foot, right? Jax: Yeah, say he might have like something. I'm like, what? Yeah, like what? Like, that's the rumors. Greg: They said they were saying they were saying they were saying he got shot in the foot ⁓ and use his like personal doctors to try to get the surgery so that like niggas wouldn't know or whatever. So that you know because you know when a lot of these like contracts there's a certain things that can trigger breaches and triggers money being lost and whatever. So I think. The surgery didn't go the way he thought it was going to go and it didn't heal like as fast as niggas thought it was. And he just ended up not playing the whole season. Like I said, these are all rumors, allegedly. know. Didn't know that nigga was a toad or like that. You know, I mean, didn't know he didn't know that was his bag for him. Be honest with you. I didn't know that was what he did on his off time. But like I said, these are all rumors. These are all rumors. Jax: If that's happening, that's crazy. That will do it. That will get you not coming back. Greg: That'll do it nigga, I'm not gonna lie. Jax: but another trade that happened. Greg: Yeah, man. they got Nick Chubb still there, That's the backup. Jax: I believe so, or he might be a free agent in this off season, so I'm not entirely sure. Greg: I think that's a good trick though. I think that's a good trick. Jax: But another trade that happened, DJ Moore, he got traded to the Bills. So Josh Allen finally gets his receiver help that they've been dying for, for however long. Maybe it'll go well, maybe it won't. Maybe it'll be like, ⁓ Josh Allen, still needs help. I don't fucking know. But I think it's a solid trade for them. And the Bears in the turn, they got a second round pick. So that's nice for them. So I mean. Greg: Yeah, because I didn't know DJ Morb is going to go for that much. I'm thinking in my mind, I'm like, OK, like probably a fourth. But to get a second out of that. Jax: Mm-hmm. I'm in a bad L.O. Greg: I think the Bears won that trade. I'm not gonna lie to you. Jax: I think that trade was still like that because DJ Moore, he came from the Bryce Young trade. So that's essentially got that from the Bryce Young trade. That Bryce Young trade is like the gift that keeps on giving for them because they ended up giving up that pick. So the Panthers could get it and they got all this other stuff in return. So maybe the Bears can leave that. Greg: ⁓ my god. Yeah, and they got Luther Burden was a part of that as well. Hell. Hell. Hey, Chicago really. Jax: Yeah. That's how they ended up with the Katelyn Williams pick in the first place like this. ⁓ Greg: Hey, I'm not gonna lie. Hey, hey five years from now we will have to revisit the magnitude of that trade. I'm not gonna lie to you. That might be one of the biggest feces we might have seen that depending on how niggas project out of talent. Hold on. That was the Chicago for picking well though. Jax: but the biggest trade, yeah, for sure. But the biggest trade of this off season so far happened yesterday. Yeah, with the Max Crosby trade. Because Max Crosby, he's been linked to a lot of teams, including like the Cowboys, ⁓ think the Broncos were talked about. ⁓ got traded though to the Baltimore Ravens for... a 2026 and 2027 first round pick. So the Ravens don't got their first round pick for the next two years, but they got Max Crosby. I'm not going to lie, bro. I'm low key glad like as a Cowboys fan, I'm low key glad Dallas didn't do this trade. Because Max Crossby, he is good, but he's been getting hurt a lot. Although he's still be playing, but he's not always 100 % when he does play. He's still effective, but he's just like still, man. And two first round picks is a lot, especially for a team like Baltimore, because they have a lot of needs, including receiver and O-line. Yeah, receiver, O-line, their defense is sort of all two. I guess, you like the Ravens did not have pass rush at all, so they're probably getting some, but I don't know. I don't know how I feel about this trade. I don't think it's bad, but I only think it's good. Greg: Max Crosby, he's 28. First thing, first reaction to this was them. They always. They always put this man on the nigger team like this. This nigger is always on the nigger team. From the Raiders to the Ravens. Mad Baltimore niggas from the. You know, you know, they're gonna do their thing, but. I. You're right, Jax. I'm glad that the Cowboys didn't go all in to get this nigga. No disrespect to him. I think he's gonna be fine. I he's cool. Yeah, I think he's good. I think earlier on, think a lot of people were still kind of just having PTSD from giving up Micah. So they felt like they just had to replace this nigga based off of how good the offense was going this season. But with some more clarity. Jax: Yeah, I think my strawberry's good, but like, I just... Greg: He went where he needed to go and I will say when it comes to the Ravens Although it just hasn't been working out for them They really do be trying to beef up the defense like they they will give a concert of effort to just say fuck it We're gonna give you Jair Alexander. We'll go and go get Hopkins even though he's a little older we'll go and get like we'll go get niggas. It just doesn't pan out with just They're trying Jax: There! They'll try, they're trying. Just don't be working out as well. Greg: They're not a, you incompetent. You know, they had the balls to get rid of fucking Harbaugh. That's not an easy thing to do for a nigga that's been in your organization for 18 years. And when you what, Super Bowl, like one Super Bowl or two? Probably one. I think it was one. Maybe? Jax: I think Harbaugh himself won one. Greg: OK. OK, because I didn't know I didn't know. Yeah, he wasn't there for the 2000s Ravens. No, no, no, no. But he was there for 2012. But it's just like, you know, like. That's not a that's not a that's not an easy thing to do. So. I hope it I mean, all you can do is hope and pray that the shit work out. Honestly, they had a really good runway this year to go make some fucking noise, and you couldn't do it. You. Jax: Yeah. That's why I'm like, I don't know why. That's why like, I'm not all the way sure it's a good trade for them. Cause like they need line to like, Lamar was dying last season. That's why they were asked. They need alignment. Cause they're that a file or whatever. He's not good. Like they make compilations about him. Like I didn't, I don't know. You don't normally see that like low light compilations that are multiple minutes long. So. Greg: Loss of the fucking Steelers. Then you follow it. Yeah, they make TikTok rants about this nigga. Jax: They need that. And they still, they need a receiver the entire time Lamar's been in there and they haven't gotten one yet. Like, I mean, they tried with Ze Flowers and Rashad Babin, but them niggas are not number one receivers. So I don't, that's why it's tough, but it's definitely going to help their defense. So I mean, we will see how it works out. Greg: Yeah, we'll see for sure. And regardless, Ravens do be putting up points on the board. It's not like they be having low score games. So just having a thread. Jax: It's like, your offense is only gonna be so bad when you have Lamar Jackson in there. Greg: Exactly. So I think in their mind, it's like, man, look, we're averaging 25 to 30 points a night. Let's just put a little bit more pressure on the quarterback and see, you know, where it takes it. But only time will tell. I don't know. All that yapping just for me to be like, I don't know, nigga, I don't I don't know. Jax: Nuff. Okay. This is a podcast for casuals for a reason. Greg: Absolutely. Y'all, hey, how about y'all comment down below and tell me what the fuck that nigga finna do? How about y'all tell me? Jax: But ⁓ let's go ahead and transition to basketball real fast. Now, I we've talked a lot about the whole Pablo Torre finding out his investigation into the Clippers, how they pay Kawhi Leonard under the table and everything. Well, Pablo Torre, dropped a new episode of his podcast. And it's a good episode. I watched it earlier. It's a good episode. 45 minutes long, not too crazy or whatever. And. Like it's gonna, I'm about to show a little clip from it. It's probably gonna spoil it just a little bit. Not even a little bit, a lot of it, but essentially like Pablo Torre found like quite literally he found proof that yes, the Clippers have cheated. So let me just share this clip from his show. Yeah. You can see the screen and all that. Greg: Yeah, I can see it. Jax: it. Thank And this document is from the federal investigation into Aspiration, which is a company that the Clippers had used to get around and pay Kawhi Leonard. And that company ended up being investigated by the FBI. ⁓ I'm pretty sure it was the FBI. they found out these. Pablo, went in and all this is court records. So he found out exactly what led up to this or whatever. Greg: Yeah. Jax: including this were examples of fraud by aspiration. And so they're now reading out the clip, or they're reading out what the court ruling, they're reading out some of the court findings. Greg: Yeah, this is a live studio audience. Jax: Yeah, he was at some conference. MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. Greg: ⁓ okay. Jax: So like, yeah, that's quite literal proof that ⁓ when the FBI was investigating this aspiration company, they found out that, ⁓ yeah, by the way, the Clippers are using this company to pay Kawhi Leonard money to circumvent the NBA salary cap. But the FBI, didn't like do anything about it because it's not, like, this isn't illegal. It's just like. illegal in NBA terms, but in like real life in the court of law, they don't they don't care about this. This has nothing to This isn't breaking any laws. It just you can't do this in the NBA. So that's the actual you found the actual proof that boom the Clippers did this. Greg: Man, bro, I'm just... I don't know what this nigga Adam Silver finna do. ⁓ I was about to say, nor do I care, but I do kind of care what this nigga actually does. But it's just. When niggas be talking about we did a we did an investigation, we did a thorough investigation or whatever. Like, you know, you can dig deep to go get this shit like. If you're Adam Silver, this is not impossible for you to get, because if Pablo Tory can get it, so can you, nigga. So you purposely. Jax: Literally, quite literally. Greg: didn't go deep enough. It's like ⁓ when I was younger and report cards came home and I knew my shit wasn't looking that great. And I'm digging in my backpack mad deep knowing there ain't shit in there because I threw a fuck away. I threw it away and I'm like, damn, I just had it. It's got to be down there somewhere. That's how Adam Silver be doing it when it comes to shit like this. When it comes to these kind of paperwork, I just. Jax: You Yeah. Greg: I guess it didn't get sent. guess it's not ready. I don't see it. Thank you. Bro, Pablo Toy was born at night, not last night. Nigga, you knew this shit was going to come down the pipeline at some point. This nigga is very just like minute. Nigga, that nigga's very on point with shit. He doesn't let shit go until he finds what he's trying to find. So you're going have to answer these questions, but it's just a matter of the rest of the league. still giving a fuck to pressure that nigga Adam Silver into further elaborating because we can't just we can't let this shit slide bro. Jax: Yeah, cause like if everybody like, cause this is being brought, like this was at a, you know, public conference. This got put on a podcast episode, everything like this literal proof that the Clippers cheated. And it's a lot of people have been like, Oh, Adam Silver, he probably doesn't want to punish Steve Ballmer because like, realistically, I don't even think Steve Ballmer is that bad of him. I don't think he's really a bad person. just. Greg: Absolutely. Jax: is cheating at this because he's like, I think he's a good owner in all honesty. He just really dedicated the sports and that's why he was cheating and shit. like, if Adam Silver doesn't punish him enough then, or he did like give him like a little slap on the wrist or a fine or something like that. Other owners are gonna be like, well damn, why don't we just do this? Because clearly nothing's gonna happen so we can do it too. And that's just gonna be a whole. I don't even know, this is gonna be the Wild Wild West to the, and, and so he has to do something, even though I know he probably doesn't want to, but it's just like, damn, what is he going to do? Like, shit, what's, what's that? Greg: I feel like I feel like Adam Silver. I feel like he wakes up very overstimulated. Like, I really do feel like all this shit that he has to worry about, like he's still trying to figure out tanking right now. And even though I don't think tanking is like a real issue that needs to be addressed, like in all actuality, but like he's forcing that as like something he has to do or whatever the next tournament he's going to invent. to increase revenue. ⁓ Even though the WNBA is not his league, he has to be a part of like those kind of negotiation talks because NBA money funnels into WNBA. So like they're about to go on strike. So he has to listen to that. Then we got to still listen to like he still has to figure out the gambling situation because we're tied into gambling and we got players that have been involved in gambling already. ⁓ Jax: Mm-hmm. because they're going to go on strike too. Greg: I eat, know, I eat Jontay Porter and now you got this, you know, in his words, I don't feel this way, but now you got this fuck nigga Pablo Torre that just won't let this fuck shit go. And he's just like, nigga, I got mad shit going on, bro. what, leave me alone, nigga, fuck. But nigga, you gotta address it. Nigga, you made the sandwich. You gotta address this nigga. We're not letting you, ⁓ my God, nigga, what's that? Jax: Hahaha! Yeah. Greg: That's it, shoot it. ⁓ Damn, bro. I got that the Drake song raining in Houston was was coming to life for out that that niggas was playing music. is. He said, all right, that's enough, nigga. Yeah, bro, it's looking bad for him. I don't know, man. The more you the more you talk about this, nigga, the more I'm like, damn, maybe this nigga not right for the job. don't Maybe it maybe maybe I have to give up. Jax: Adam Silver heard you mention him and he called town center. BITCH Greg: Maybe I have to wave my white flag and stop defending this nigga. Jax: Yeah, bro. But in different basketball news and happier basketball news, Jason Tatum, he's back 10 months after tearing his Achilles, which is crazy to me. But I actually watched the game. He played against the Mavs. He dropped 15 points, 12 rebounds, seven assists. I watched the game when it happened. It was clearly rusty. He missed a couple dunks. Greg: He might be washed. Jax: Jaylen Brown tried to throw him out of you because he couldn't get there high enough. He got hung on the rim like but I mean it's first game that he's still quite literally getting his feet under him. So it was nice to see but I was in my head. I'm just like, ⁓ he also didn't really have a men's restriction. Although he got subbed out ⁓ early in the game though because it was a blowout win. ⁓ Greg: Mm-hmm. Jax: I still man, I don't even care. wouldn't play. I was out the whole year, bro. Like the South, there are these second in the East. They don't really need Jason. Like, of course, Jason is a good player, but they were doing well without him. So I would, I still would have rested because that's just crazy. 10 months is crazy to me. I'm so sorry. Greg: Sure. But at the same time, well, granted, I'll say this. ⁓ He came back from his Achilles before Kyrie played a basketball game. Mind you, Kyrie got injured first. Just want to put that out there. So I just wanted to put that out there. Second of all, ⁓ I will, I will admit, I did see a lot of like those, you know, those like doctors that be on Twitter, like they're actual doctors, but they like love sports and shit. There've been a lot of people that have been speculating that low key Jason Tatum has probably kind of been ready for at least like two months, but the Celtics were like being cautious with even that kind of return, like a ⁓ eight month return scared them niggas. Like, no, let's give that nigga two more months. Jax: Mm-hmm. So. Greg: And once he went to that G League and started frying niggas, they were like, OK, well. Jax: I didn't know he played any G League games. Greg: Yeah, he played in G League games to ramp up. think ⁓ after All-Star break, he started playing like G League games and that niggas started frying them niggas and they was, OK, let's let's let's let's let's get them here this Friday. Like, let's start playing around. And I'll say. Yeah, you know that I will say he they they do play the Thunder twice before the playoffs start. Jax: Okay. Yeah, we play the maps, we can handle that. Greg: That'll be a nice little test for them. It'll get real. ⁓ If he knows what's best for him, he'll stay away from Lou Dory. Not saying he's a dirty player. We just don't need any accidents, man. We just don't need any collisions. We don't need any hard basketball play. Ease that nigga in. Actually, the first game that y'all played at Thunder, just sit him out, honestly. Sit him out. Hopefully it's a back to back. You sit him out on that back one and we don't need all that. ⁓ Jax: See you really? See you real. Yeah Greg: Are the Celtics good enough without him? Absolutely. They're a second seed. I think they can honestly be good enough to go to the finals. ⁓ But adding Jason Tatum at whatever stage Jason Tatum is, ⁓ that's when you start threatening, OK, an OKC. You're not being OKC without Jason Tatum. And I think they feel like with the run that they're having, they can fuck around and make it a real series with OKC. So I'm not really necessarily mad at Jason Tatum like playing. ⁓ I'd feel a little bit more hesitant if his return date was during the playoffs. Then I'll be like, this is. Yeah, that's like. Yeah, it's getting. No, no, Jax: During the playoffs, they're be honest. Oh first game back. We're gonna we're gonna test that out right now Greg: Yeah, first game back 94 feet is a highway. Hold on. Hold on. on. This is not no, hold on. But the fact that he gets a month before you get a month before and on top of that, you have to play in tournaments that give you like a full week kind of before playoffs even start and you're playing. Hopefully you're not playing a horn is first, but like maybe you're like playing some other like lower. Maybe you're playing a bulls or some shit. Jax: Yeah. I wonder if I wonder if they're looping. Greg: I'm doing I've been praying for a hornets pistons matchup I feel like the hornets are good enough to upset them niggas low-key not gonna hold you and they already got animosity because they hardly have animosity been boxing each other already didn't box each other first already Jax: I feel like you're not alone. I feel like the horns gonna mess them around and get end up with the seventh seed in the playing. So they're gonna miss the pistons. Cause I don't think the pistons are gonna lose that first seed. Greg: And I wanted a matchup so bad in the first round, bro. I promise you that's that's been my dream matchup. I think they're good enough to go ahead and like still a game one because the Pistons are just not like locked in enough because they're looking at them as the Hornets. And then they'll win game two. But I feel like the Hornets will win a game at home because the Hornets ain't Hornets been been to the playoffs in 12 years. They they are in a fit to be packed as fuck. Cam Newton might roll to that fucking bitch. like, nigga, like, bro, I got a feeling. I don't know. Jax: Man. Yeah, I think this is gonna be a good series. Greg: Yeah. How did Jason Taino know? of injury. Jax: And one more basketball topic to close things out. Good lord. Greg: Yeah. Jax: Unfortunately, this has become a thing because the Atlanta Hawks are playing the Orlando Magic. believe what Monday the I don't know what they actually. Greg: I believe it is the 14th or the 15th. Oh, March 16. March 16. Monday. Jax: Okay, so they're playing March 16th and that night the Hawks have decided to make it Magic City night in reference to the, yes, that Magic City, the strip club Magic City. And it's just become a whole damn, ⁓ a whole mess. Luke Courtney, ⁓ he's the... Center for the he's one of the centers for the spurs. He wrote a sub stack letter talking about this whole situation saying it's the Hawks to cancel their upcoming magic not cancel the game of course, but just cancel the night and celebration stuff saying it's disrespectful to women. And then you have people saying that he's not on the Hawks or the team he's playing. This is just white people being in black people's business. that, like, why is a strip club black people's business? Why is this the argument you've decided to make? Why are we acting like this is normal? Why are we acting like this is normal? Like, people have been saying that Magic City is, it's a cultural establishment. Is this that in the third? Why it's a strip club? I'm not saying I hate the strip club. I don't care. You can go to strip club, it's fine. I'm not even bashing sex workers or anything like this. But this is a sex work night. A strip club is a place for sex workers. Sex workers isn't prostitutes and stuff like that. It's strippers as well. Why are we having this night for this? What the fuck are we doing? Like this is a basketball game, it's for kids and I know people have been saying like, ⁓ just don't bring the kids to this night. Nigga, it's a basketball game, what are we doing? Basketball is for everybody, including kids. Why is this a thing? And once again, why is your argument that this is black people business? Why is this your club black people business? What are we fucking doing? What is that saying about? Greg: No, no, Jax, overreacted. You act like they're to be shaking ass on the pole. Jax: Oh, we should also clarify like during this, this is going to be set like TI is going to be there performing at halftime. I believe they're to have like some magic city merch, is like what, but still like, but that's going to be like the expense of it. Yeah. But it's just like. Greg: Magic City hoodies. And the way in the wings that their notorious wings, they will be selling those wings as well. Jax: I've seen people be like, man, this is just a cultural establishment. Business deals get done there. They have good food and but like, nigga, it's still a strip club. That is like, no matter what, business deal, sure you can do business deals there. Sure the food can be good. At the end of the day, it's still a strip club. What are we fucking doing? Greg: Come on gang, come on gang. Come on. And I think my main takeaway from this was I just didn't know people, and I know the real answer to this, but I was like, damn, I just didn't know y'all gave a fuck about Luke Cornett enough to make all these think pieces. I just didn't know. that Luke Cornett will be the nigga to rile all you bitch ass niggas up because it wasn't that you know I mean like I can respect the niggas that said damn this nigga this nigga is no fun that's that nigga's corny and then just kept scrolling all these niggas that just started turning into Davis Dennis Jr. like like it was oh fucking the Birmingham Museum bullshit with LeBron James. You know I mean like I'm thinking the way I like. Jax: Literally just ⁓ yeah. Greg: Standing up for this shit, you would have thought this was some shit. Like when that nigga said, bro, that Magic City is a cultural institution, that's when I lost it. Who the fuck you mean cultural institution, bro? It's a strip club, nigga. It's a strip club that's not just for black people. I just saw Jack Harlow there like three weeks ago. Y'all accept all kinds of niggas there. Like it's not exclusive, you have to be black to go here. God damn. Jax: you Bro, it's going crazy. That's how angry the strip club probably made him. Greg: My bad, my, hey, Magic City. My bad, nigga, my bad, bro, hey. Hey, I ain't mean it, nigga, I ain't mean it, I ain't mean it. But yeah, as far as like people like talking about it, defending it, like I know you're gonna go like, you wanna elaborate further into this, but I'm just looking at this shit and I'm just like, I just hate every last nigga's like argument about this shit. Like everything that niggas have to say about this, I'm like, bro, you don't have to comment on everything, bro. Like you don't have to. And on top of that, my biggest takeaway for me is when niggas are calling him performative. I don't think he's performative. I just think he's a conservative white man that's a Catholic. Like, I just think the niggas from that niggas from Kentucky, that nigga. Like if you read all of his substacks, well, I mean, I'm not saying you have to read them, but like I'm looking at the headlines and it's all about him like ranking like his Catholic churches that he went through growing up and like what he did throughout the NBA season to keep him grounded in his faith. I think it's like rock. I forgot the name, like the title, like what he did like. know, he has shops and like Charlotte. Jax: What? Greg: You know, he was in San Antonio. Like he'd been to a few places in the NBA before like landing with the Spurs. And like you read this and I'm just like, ⁓ like people, think people are painting him like as performative because he was making it like people thought he was like trying to be like a feminist or like somebody that's like supporting women. I'm being honest with you. I don't think he gives a fuck about you bitches. I just think he cares about like his views like his ideas as a conservative white man. Like, just think like, he just thinks a certain way and thinks like, yeah, like we should be protecting our women from this, that, and the third. He's not trying to be down with like just, ⁓ a feminist. That's why he's not talking about Miles Bridges. That's not why he's talking about all these other people that you claim that he has to talk about. Because he ain't talking about that side of the internet. Like, he's not talking about that side of the patriarchy. That man is just in his, you know, in his faith for real. So I think he truly believes what he's saying. You may not agree with it and women may not agree with it, but to call him performative, just I don't I don't agree after further review of my own personal findings of this nigga. Like, he's just a white man. That's all I I just think he's genuinely just a white man. I don't think you need to take that because comments as seriously as you all did, because he doesn't have that motion. He doesn't have the emotion that you think you niggas have. Like Magic City night is going to happen without this nigga anyway. It doesn't matter. are you making all this big fuss about it? Telling him to comment on some shit he's never going to comment on. It's not going to happen, Yeah. ⁓ Jax: Yeah, right. It's just stupid. It's just stupid. But with that being said, I do think it is time, Greg, for politics. Greg: I mean, you know, gay son or Magic City daughter, pick one. Jax: What the, who got asked, somebody got asked that question. What was it? Was it Kevin Hart? He was like both or something like that. I somebody, I think it was Kevin or Ria, he was like, both. I was like, alright Kevin. Greg: Saucy says it saucy Santana's son or Magic City daughter It might be the same thing honestly. ⁓ my god. All right Jax: you You see, you make everything, like you're upsetting people. Greg: Hey, my bad. Hey, this time I saw the light. I'm like, damn, you know, it's crazy. I'm always saying this shit, but you get in the repercussions. I think I got to I got to calm it down. I got to protect I got to protect you, they got to protect you. I'm tripping. But speaking speaking of which, Jack, I do think it is time for that. Do you think it is time? Five hot takes of the wig. Jax, do you have yours or do you want me to go first? What you want to do? Jax: I got my hot take, because it's really a continuation of our last segment. Greg: Go ahead. you Jax: My hot take is that everybody that's even talking about and making a big deal about this whole Luke Courtney thing, like people that are like, I have an issue with the whole concept of the Magic City night, but there are people who have an issue with the fact that Luke Courtney has something to say about it. And people are saying things that like, ⁓ because ⁓ you play in the NBA, you need to, you're talking about this, you're talking about this stripper night when you should be talking about the abusers in the NBA and like, Greg: Exactly, exactly thunder exactly. Fuck you shit Jax: I heard it coming so I had to stop. But it's just like, because he has an issue with this, y'all are making the argument that it seems like because he has an issue with this, he can't have an issue with that. He can still dislike the abusers in the league while also disliking this Magic City night. You can do two things at once. He can disprove two things at once. Greg: Hahaha Jax: I don't like, is the argument people are making here? Like he thinks it's bad, correct. But he's also not talking about the, like, it's literally the pancake waffle theory. Like Luke Cornet, he said that objectifying women is bad and we shouldn't align this with our sports league and blah, blah, blah. And now people are saying that, oh, he's just, he's giving the past to abusers. Greg: to pancake, pancake waffle theory. Jax: That's not how it works. All these arguments are just bad faith arguments. Because I feel like deep down, y'all know y'all are fucking crazy for this, bro. Deep down, y'all know this is dumb. Y'all know this shouldn't be happening. Is it the worst thing the NBA has ever done? Of course not. But y'all know this is stupid. Y'all know this shouldn't be a fucking thing. Be so for real, bro. Please be so sick. Please be. Greg: Come on. Of course not. Jax: If you're gonna be anything in life, please be for real, bro. Like, goodness gracious, bro. This just upsets me. I hate everybody's argument. Niggas piss me off. ⁓ Greg: I think I think tool I think two of the arguments that pissed me off the most one was the ones that were saying well ⁓ the NBA allows gambling and beer and all this other stuff so like y'all y'all don't get on a ask for the gambling shit so I know niggas do but second of all Jax: Bye. Yes we do! Greg: And second of all, y'all niggas are doing that that same Shannon Sharp Leonardo DiCaprio bullshit. I think they're both weird anyway. Like both y'all niggas is weird. I don't like gambling and I don't like this Magic City shit happening. I can dislike both of them, nigga. And I think the second thing that I didn't like ⁓ that they said was, ⁓ damn. What was that? What was the other one they said? Regardless, it don't even matter because we didn't already beat this shit like a dead horse. It's like, yo, like who? I swear I don't care as much as I'll swear. I think I'll do like I don't care about this shit, bro. ⁓ no, no, no. That's why I was going to go. The ones that will be like, I see his point. ⁓ I think he's the wrong messenger, though. That should blew the fuck out of me or like. He shouldn't have been the one to say it. Like what you want to Martin Luther King to say this shit. You want David Davis, David Dennis Jr. to say this shit. He's not the wrong messenger. I take wrong messenger very seriously. I give you wrong messenger. If you're saying, hey, Miles Bridges made a sub stack about this shit, about how we need to be protecting women. That is wrong messenger. Antonio Brown, you name it. Niggas that have been abusing people. Jax: Yeah. Greg: like documented, it's not even alleged. Like some of this shit is, Kevin Porter Jr. Yes. I see your point. Luke Coronet, the white man that has no prior history of inflicting any harm on anybody, including women. You're just admitting that, ⁓ I just don't like a white man telling me what the fuck to do, even though he's not talking to you. Jax: Yeah. Greg: The substack message was for the NBA and Adam Silver. You're in his business. You're in that white man's business, but you don't want to talk about that. You want to search yourself in some shit that has nothing to do with you. Adam Silver is like, ref, do something. And y'all are saying, yo, shut your bitch ass up. He's not talking to you, nigga. I swear he's not. He's not telling black people what to do. He's just inquiring y'all. Inquiring the NBA. Hey, stop this. Even though they're not going to stop it. It's too late now. Like, it's going to happen. But some of y'all, hey, some of y'all need a Luke Cornett. You know, you know who needed a Luke Cornett? The Bafters. They needed a Luke Cornett that night. They needed somebody to say, maybe we should edit this out. I don't think this is a good idea that this nigga said nigga and we have two hours to edit it. We should do something about this. I mean, you who needed a Luke Cornett? The turkey leg cut. I think a lot of things could have just been saved from the turkey leg cut if you had the loop coordinate in your circle. Jax: I think the turkey leg had needed more than the cornette. won't even lie to you. They needed more than the cornette. Greg: You right. You know, right. You're right. right. right. Yeah. Yeah. I ain't go. I was, I was getting a lot of hand out to that. That was, that was a reach. That was a reach. That was a reach. But a Luke or that would have been a start. That would have been something. Yeah. Luke or that wouldn't have been enough for that. That was crazy. Some niggas got charged for arson. It was, it was bad. Nevermind. Jax: multiple times. Getting caught on camera. Like, what are we doing? Greg: see you recording yourself putting gasoline. Yeah, boy, that's That's crazy. My heartache is that It is time for a lot of you niggas to start retiring y'all uncles for being the universal nigga that decides if you brought some fine shit home to the family gathering. ⁓ At a certain age, these niggas start turning into... ⁓ AY appreciators. And niggas are gonna be like, Greg, what the fuck is AY? I'm glad you asked. ⁓ AY stands for anything young, okay? At some point. Jax: I was going to ask that. I was going to ask that. Greg: The older some of these niggas start to get, all of a sudden, you think anything young is a 10 out of 10. I can't say that I'm lying. We have public evidence of older niggas just keep getting caught up with young hoes. we go into these group chats and say, this is the young hoe that you got caught up with? This the nigga that you just had to risk it all for? We have too many. We don't even have to say their names. Jax knows exactly who the fuck I'm talking about. There's plenty of them. Right. OK. It goes. There is not just them. It's other niggas. Now, I'm not trying to put an actual age on your uncle. OK. Because everybody's age gap is different. Some people are closer in age. Whatever. I think the prime uncle, the prime uncle for some fine shit, it was supposed to be. Jax: Yeah. Greg: you know, late high school, early college, you know, even a little post-grad, post-college, whatever. After you start, once you get to the age of 21, because you know the universal, I see you nephew, you get that, all of a sudden it's, okay, I brought a bad bitch home. Fine, I don't have worry about nothing. By the time you get to the age of 21, 22, even 23, I'm not saying you need to retire them. But you need to have an honest conversation of how many seasons your uncle has left in that role. OK? You know what mean? You need to have a real conversation. How many seasons does my nigga have? Especially when you know, like, you're approaching 27, 28, 29. Dumb niggas, if they are married, they probably have some grandkids at this point. Now he's not really an uncle no more. He's really grandpa. And I need you to... to shift your angle from having unc as your certified nigga to now demoting your uncles and starting to promote your cousins. All right? You need to start seeing your cousin start saying shit like, damn, she got a sister? She got some, you know what mean? Like, you know how the aunties or whatever, damn, she got a brother? She got an uncle? She got an auntie? She got a? She got a sister. You need to start hearing that as the replacement of I see you nephew. And I'm not saying that I'm giving you a certain age, but I know at this point in my current my current age right now, I've retired my uncles. I retired my uncles two years ago because at some point they start getting into anything. Anything young is 10 out of 10. And now now I know that my uncle is no longer. ⁓ He's too horny and now he no longer has my best interest at heart. Like you just saying anything. You just seen some shit move and now it's just like, like, nah, nah, enough. That's the one. Come on, come on now. If I put this same person in the group chat, I'm going to see like two niggas saying, man, as long as you happy. Now we having conflicting, we having conflicting text messages. We have different reactions. Jax: I said. Yeah Greg: Nah, man, sometimes don't be in the game. Leave the game before the game leaves you. And I'm not saying that your uncle is like, as in put you on game. I'm pretty sure like, y'all, some of y'all got some, you know, uncles that really didn't put you on game before. And my uncles too. Like, no, no, no, my uncle different. I bet, I bet. You know, Bill Belichick is a Hall of Fame career nigga. Like he's a Hall of Fame career guy. He's not running my offense in 2026. Absolutely not. He's not. He's not running anything on my football team. He's not running my playbook in 2026. Legendary Hall of Fame nigga, Jax: Bill Belichick isn't running anything on his football team. Bill Belichick isn't running anything on his football team at the moment. Greg: That was my hot take I stand on it. ⁓ retire your uncle's your uncle should not die with the title of ⁓ Fine should appreciate her that he should not die with that title. He should not be 84 Still with that fucking title and took it to his grave. It should never happen like that. I stand on it Jax: I know that as long as you're happy. Greg: Jack Jackson, you disagree. Do you disagree with anything I said? Jax: I can't really find it in my heart to disagree with anything that you say. Because a lot of them just be, they just be saying stuff. But then again, you also have to realize, if you are the one they're saying it to, they might just want you to be happy. So they could just be trying to appeal to you with the, ⁓ that's you. They could just be trying to appeal to you. Greg: Ha! still not having my best interest, because you need to pull me to the side and say, I didn't see you bring home better. Jax: That's also a conversation to say, what the fuck? That's a horrible conversation to do that. Greg: Hey, yo uncle tell me hey man, what? What happened to the other one? What happened to the one you brought to two Christmases ago? What happened were? That's a crazy conversation. Like I'm not gonna lie. That is that I probably wouldn't phrase it that way but You know, you're uncle you know, you know when your uncle be on some bullshit and mind you Jax nigga your uncle like you you know Jax: Exactly. ⁓ Greg: You're too young for like this shit because your people is not old enough yet. They're all like toddlers and shit, like six or seven or whatever. But yeah, within the next what, five years? Maybe, maybe a little bit more. Jax: Yeah they're all like exactly. I'm No, because they're all like, no, I got one nephew. Well, I got two, essentially. Greg: I was like maybe 10. So like, 10 years, like, 10 years away from having that kind of like... Jax: It's gonna be a while. It's going to be a long while. Greg: Yeah, it is going to be a while for you. But like by that time, like you had that you're at that decent age where you're like, OK, bet like your tools are sharp. You understand. You understand the assignment. I mean, like you're not going to be like 60 or 70. Middle, what middle age man with 30, 35. Probably in your 40s, maybe, I don't know. But still, like you'll be there and you'll be able to put that on game like you'll be like that prime nigga. Jax: Yeah, nah. in my 40s. Okay. Greg: Now, by the time they turn 30, you don't still need to be doing this. Jax: I'm out the game. I'm out the game. Greg: He's out the game. You need to be talking about, hey, yo, once you get her, this is how you treat her type shit. You supposed to be on that kind of way. You ain't supposed to be like, damn. Nah, I'm not falling for it. I'm falling for it. Some of y'all niggas got Shannon Sharp as your uncle. It is what it is. Jax: Where's reality possible? Greg: Nah, nah, nah, real shit, real shit before we get off. Shannon Sharp Uncle? Shannon Sharp Uncle? Or Jason Woodlock Uncle? Jax: Shannon Sharp on cool. I feel like Jason Whitlock is he's worse than Shannon Sharp because he's a coon, but also like Yeah, like he's a cool, but also like, think he's still in the vein of like a Shannon sharp ass nigga. He just can't get the. Greg: He is a, he still is a Shannon Sharp nigga, cause he said peanut butter skin. Jax: Yeah, he just can't get the women he wants. Greg: Mmm. Jax: Or is he married? I don't even know. I don't know anything about Jason Willoughby, but regardless. Greg: He's not married. He's not married. He's not married. He's not married. ⁓ Jax: But yeah, regardless, would, Shannon Sharpe would go all the way, all the way. Greg: That's fair. Yeah, cuz cuz cuz Jason uncle Jason would like that niggas gonna talk down on other niggas within the family ⁓ Because he couldn't achieve the bad bitch he was trying to get to I get get sure ⁓ but It's been a rap guys Finally in the podcast man another great episode jacks any last words Jax: I would say go outside, touch some grass, but it's a goddamn monsoon outside, so maybe stay inside. Maybe do that. Greg: I would also tell you to go outside, but snow is still on the ground. So not a lot of grass you could touch here either. Maybe it is time to stay inside. Maybe it is time to be on Internet. But find a way. No matter what, find a way. Only you have the power to change your life. So with that being said, we'll catch our niggas next week. Happy March. Is it International Women's Month or whatever? Jax: Yeah. Greg: That one LeBron went crazy with the women. Happy that day. Happy that decade. Happy that year. You know what mean? Make sure we say it once so we don't have to repeat ourselves. we'll catch y'all niggas next... Almost said next year. We'll catch y'all niggas next week. Jax: you Greg: We'll get some bitches.