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• GoFredo: What's going on, y'all? This is Footy Exchange, and we back with another sports segment. Hey, listen, some things have been happening this season. We getting things locked and loaded. Let's just jump right into it. Y'all know somebody that I'm tired of getting passes. So every opportunity I get to talk about them, I'm gonna take that chance. Justin Herbert. They are 0-5 right now. They are 0-5. The struggle seems to continue to happen, and he continue to seem to get a pass. We're not talking about it. I ain't seeing them talking about it on first take. I ain't seeing them talking about it on on First things first, I ain't seeing them talk about it on not too many, what is it, mainstream sports medias when they talk about his struggles. Now all Kevin: That's good. GoFredo: of a sudden they talking about it's Harbaugh jobs on the line. So now it's Harbaugh fault. Now it's officer coordinator fault. Like these struggles ain't continue to go on. Kev, what you think about what's going on with Justin Herbert and the Chargers? Kevin: Ooh man, you know, I some interesting stuff, man, that I that I've seen. So I mean, let's just call it what it is. The team is just playing terrible football. I mean ain't even no getting around it. They are playing terrible football. you know, the coach he's taking a lot of scrutiny. but I mean I I think it's one of those it's one of those rare situations where You know, we have a coach taking scrutiny and for some reason we have a starting quarterback, a tenured starting quarterback in the league that seems to be getting a pass completely. So I'm a I you know, I'm a little I'm a little confused. I'm a little confused by and why that is. You know, I I saw an interesting article, you know, they said that you know, it's it's he's getting a pass due to media, which is interesting to me. They said he's getting a pass because of who GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: his girl is. And I was like, hmm. I don't know how I feel about that. I don't know how I feel about that one. What you what you think, Elay? GoFredo: Hey hey, hey, real quick, hey, real quick before you go late, it's so funny. I was watching, I was watching Nightcap with Shannon Sharp and them. Shout out to them guys over there. Hey, look, Ocho was like, him and Joe Johnson was like him and ISO Joe was having a conversation. They was like, Ocho was like, man, let me see what she look like. He scroll he scrolled up, pulled up, was like, Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: I mean, I understand why he ain't I understand he got the bag and he got the girl. Nate man, I'm Kevin: Okay, great. GoFredo: I'm tired of it, man. I'm tired of it. Go ahead, Lay. LayTheDon: Well just to give y'all some numbers of how terrible this man is, GoFredo: I'm listening. LayTheDon: in the past five games, we only after five games, this man has a fifty-nine percent pass percentage. He's only thrown for Kevin: It's a bit LayTheDon: nine hundred and thirty-seven yards. He's only thrown five T D passes, he's had six fumbles, Kevin: the LayTheDon: and he's only rushed for 142 yards. GoFredo: How many interceptions LayTheDon: In five games. GoFredo: how many interceptions you got? Kevin: I get your point. Okay, you better get out. LayTheDon: That's the one number I actually missed. Actually, I the the six fumbles had me because he got like three in one game. GoFredo: Hold on, I got go I got you. Go ahead, Pluey. Go ahead t go ahead, keep talking. I'm gonna pull it up myself. Hold on. LayTheDon: But Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: yeah, but like I I a O and five Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: team and this was a quote unquote superbow contender at one point, not too long ago, like he has a terrible O line that's Kevin: Do you ever get your stuff back in your friend? LayTheDon: just is not just not helping him at all. And they just keep giving this man passes. I'm just like, I mean, I obviously Kevin: Ba met LayTheDon: I I'm honest with you, I don't hear them talk about him at all, almost didn't ever. unless it's about somebody around him losing a job. I never actually hear the blame on him. Kevin: My man has eight steps. GoFredo: What do I say care? Kevin: Ooh. My man has eight interceptions. LayTheDon: And five games is crazy. Kevin: And five touchdowns. GoFredo: And he's averaging and he's having one touchdown a game and has eight interceptions. And they Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: and we and we having a discussion about about about Harbaugh's job. We haven't a discussion about offensive coordinator job. We haven't these discussions about his hit the help around him and everything like that. When this like Lay said, they were Super Bowl contenders. LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: They were like they went from contenders, they had they last year, even though I was hard on Justin Herbert and the Chargers. Last year they started off a lot better. You're 0-5. And the and Kevin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. GoFredo: and and regardless of what the LayTheDon: box. GoFredo: defense and the defense isn't playing Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: absolutely terrible. Like they they're playing Kevin: Nah. GoFredo: at least c like like playing, they playing at least, you know, some some you know, they're playing good football for the most part, decent football for the most part. Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: But it doesn't help your defense when you got when you're playing 50 to 60 snaps a game because your offense is being LayTheDon: Yep. GoFredo: just just not paying attention. Like I'm noticing the so I'm noticing on on on social media and the mainstream media. We're talking about Jaden Daniels. We're talking about Justin Herbert. We're talking about all these cut Dak even gets like even Dak get well, obviously we understand because it's Dallas. But like come on now, like Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: all these other quarterbacks, and I know that's just the NFC East, but like that's just that's just three to LayTheDon: Me say yeah, or hasn't he wanted to? GoFredo: But I'm saying that's just three that's just the that's just three I just I saw earlier today. That's why they in my in the main Up here at the t at the forefront. But it's just like those quarterbacks get talked about so much more than him. And it's just like people seem to forget it just Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: get glossed over. And it goes to what you and Kev, it goes with what Kev said. It's because his girl is good. People people forget he missed OTAs. Like he missed he missed the voluntary he missed the voluntary workout. I understand it's voluntary, but come on now. Come on Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: now. Like what we doing here? If you're gonna come and play like this, you need to be in every single workout. None of your workouts are voluntary. None of your workouts Kevin: Listen. GoFredo: is voluntary, you play it like this. LayTheDon: Every single workout. Kevin: Yeah. The only thing I can give him at this point, if there's any real any real defense in the way that he's playing, we're five five weeks in, he's been sacked twenty one times. GoFredo: You say what was it? Kevin: We five weeks in he's been sacked twenty one times. LayTheDon: Yeah. That man's averaging damn near five s four sacks a game, bruh. Kevin: That's GoFredo: I mean Kevin: a that's that's a that's a bad now that's a bad look on the offense. That's the only thing I can give is that it's a bad look on the Chargers offense. Your quarterback is getting averaging four to five sacks. And you've always a game? That's a rough stat line. LayTheDon: A game is crazy. Kevin: That's a rough stat line. It really makes me sick. GoFredo: My my my my my thing is I think overall I I think overall the offense is not playing good at all. I just b I just believe when I watch them pay when I watch them play I I actually sat back and watched them play Sunday and I was just like it's just it's just bad quarterback play. When I look at the don't get like I said, the offense is not playing good. But when I'm looking at what Justin Herbert The potential, his quote unquote ceiling of what he can be and the way people talk about him and everything like that. You draft a guy like this to uplift your franchise to make a play happen and do certain things. And it's just I'm not seeing it. I'm I'm just not seeing it. Like on Monday Night Football, I don't know if y'all seen the game, but the 49ers were up twenty-three to three against against the commanders. And even though Jaden Daniels missed some wide open guys and he wasn't playing to his full potential. It was just plays of him just getting outside the pocket, sliding, moving. I mean it came down to, you know, sacks at the end of the game, but like to wheel your team back and put a and be down 23 to seven I'm sorry, 23 to three and will your team back to the chance and now you lose 17 to 23 and have your team in position to win. Like Kevin: yeah. GoFredo: Come on now. But what they want to talk about with Jaden Daniels. he missed this. He missed that. I'm listening to Troy Aikman talk. And he's just knocking Jaden Daniels. He's just saying certain things. And it's just like, bro, I've I've heard you talk about Justin Herberts and at his games. And you don't say none of this stuff when he misses wide open targets. When he's not doing Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: this. So why so I'm just, it's just not making sense to me why this guy keeps getting his pass more than any I man. Kevin: Thank you, Mr. Cobb. Your age. GoFredo: Man, don't get me started, boy. I just can't seem to understand it over and over again. Like they owing five. At this time, the panic button needs to be hit. But then you can't trade them because you can't trade them against riddle because now you're looking like a dummy in your organization. But at what point in time do you start cutting ties? Like at what point in time do you decide to hey we need it's time for us to move in a different direction? Or are they just gonna fire or they're gonna fire another head coach and bring another head coach in? And kinda go from there or bringing another office coordinator. It it's it's and then I need I mean take a take a sip of my wine. Kevin: Yeah. I think I think it's a coaching job. I think it's a coaching job going before his job is gone. That's just my honest that's just my honest opinion. When you look at the history of that organization, though, think think about their quarterback history. Phillip Rivers was the only real relevant quarterback to that organization. He was there for a a long time. He had success in terms of stats, but what was really accomplished by the organization? GoFredo: Hey, you ain't lying, boy. They they they they stuck by Phillip Rivers the whole time. The whole time. And not one point in time, I I can't even think of a time where they actually thought to themselves that they would actually get rid of Phillip Rivers. I don't think that ever was a conversation. That it was thinking about getting Phillip Rivers. So I agree with you. I think it's an organ organizational thing that they just believe that since they got their quarterback, let's just find coaches. To make it happen, let's get pieces to make it happen. But to me, it's just one of those things that I draft this guy at a hot pick for him to uplift my team. And if he's not uplifting my team, so what do I need to do? Go get an all-star cast? Do I need to go like I was telling somebody the other day, do you believe if if if Justin Herbert was in Daleks right now, and this nothing against Dak, I'm just saying for the two weapons. If he had Jordan Pickens, and if he had Ferguson, and if he had CD Lamb. Do do we think that Dallas would be Super Bowl contenders? Or even better, I seen somebody say this the other day. If if Justin Herbert LayTheDon: Mm. GoFredo: had Philly's offense that wants the Super Bowl, do they win a Super Bowl with Justin Herbert? I don't believe so. I don't believe but we disrespect Jalen Hurts. Like he's not a Super Bowl MVP. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: So like but people but people will say I don't think Justin Herbert will win a Subo with that team, but Justin Herbert, but you just keep giving them passes. It just doesn't make any sense to me why that continues to happen over and over again. But you know, we'll could definitely continue to monitor. You know I will. You know we're gonna continue to monitor them and whatnot. You know, we'll Kevin: Okay, GoFredo: see what happens when we when we come back in a couple of weeks, you know. I don't wish nobody to lose, but if they if we come back in two weeks and they owing seven, it man, it's I I don't even know what to say at that point. You need to start firing everybody at that point, quarterback included, you know. But hey look, but check this out check this out, y'all. It was a LayTheDon: If we come back in two weeks and they and seven, then we just let's let's just not talk about GoFredo: You think I'm please, you know I am. You know I am. You know what Yeah. LayTheDon: 'Cause at that point, once he's over and seven, like that's halfway through the damn season, like I don't think he's relevant anymore at this point. GoFredo: Well you tell it to mainstream media. Until mainstream media start pick speaking on it, I'm gonna speak on it. I'm gonna speak on it. Just that simple. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: On your due diligence. GoFredo: I'm gonna do my part. I'm gonna do my part for the community. That's all it is. That's all it is. But for the community. LayTheDon: What a communal for the communal. GoFredo: Hey, but no, hey, look, this was a very exciting weekend for college football. There's a lot going on. Something very unprecedented happened this weekend. Five top, I mean, yeah, five top ten teams lost this weekend. It was great matchups, great games. exciting football Kevin: Yes. GoFredo: overall, but We got a new number one being Miami. Shout out to the U. That's always been one of my favorite schools. The U stand up. but Lay, what do you think about what happened this weekend? Well no, hey, fun fact, I actually was trying to go to the University of Miami a long time ago, back in my college day. LayTheDon: It was a Bama for sample. GoFredo: No, I no. So fun fact. I always wanted to go to Miami. But when Nick Saban started LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: coaching, I definitely wanted to go to Bama. But Bama recruits certain particular size guys, certain guys at that time. Coming out when my time coming out of college. At my time, they was recruiting guys like Julio Jones size and everything like that. And if you played DB, you have to be a certain size. I wasn't that size until I got to college. So yeah, I rock with, I definitely always gonna rock with Bama, you know, road tide. But the U was my first college heart. That was the first college that I always wanted to go to. LayTheDon: Even though they had lost back to back twice in a row, but we're not gonna talk about it. Bama. Yeah. They GoFredo: Who? Who you talking about Bama? Hey man, don't don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. LayTheDon: they have lost two games back to back, I'm just Kevin: Thank you. LayTheDon: saying. But no, yeah, college football definitely. one of the the matchups that I by force have to root for is the Auburn versus Georgia game. Remet. GoFredo: yeah, that's right. Hey, shout out hey hey shout out bro. I was Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: shout out bro. I hey I thought of hey when they won, I was like, I know he's celebrating. I know he celebrates. LayTheDon: So no, no no what was crazy is he was talking shit the first half first first quarter of the game, talking about some try they're not gonna do nothing, they're not gonna do nothing, they're not gonna play today, not gonna play today. So fun fact, I decided to put in a random ass twenty dollar bet just to s on Auburn, just just 'cause it's true because he kept talking shit. GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: On a hundred dollars. GoFredo: okay, congratulations. LayTheDon: Off day game. Off day game. I like, You I said you keep putting your team down. It's supposed to be your team, like no matter what. Like you supposed to even when they bad, they still supposed be your team. You talk shit about your team. I said, Maybe you should and he's like, They probably only win it 'cause I'm not watching the game. I Well, I don't need you to watch no more goddamn games. 'Cause GoFredo: Ha ha ha. LayTheDon: our is doing good when you ain't watching games, apparently. Because what are we talking about? But yeah, they're all GoFredo: Reverse a it's reverse psychology. LayTheDon: Auburn versus Georgia game. They haven't they said Auburn haven't hasn't won a game against Georgia as far as like them being number one since I think they said kept saying nineteen seventy two. GoFredo: The Lord. LayTheDon: Which is crazy. So it definitely big shout out to Auburn. I said yes, he he was happy in the end, he tried Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: to split my bet, but nah, you was talking trash about him. You said your team was gonna lose. Yeah, whatever. But GoFredo: Talking about He said I'm trying to break even. LayTheDon: And then obviously the Tennessee and Alabama game for Alabama to win to lose back to back two weeks straight. That was also hilarious because like I said, I I do know a lot of Alabama Alabama fans. And I do now know a bunch of Auburn fans. And it was just a feud going back and forth online between Auburn and Alabama fans of who the real Alabama team. So that was hilarious to actually watch play out. GoFredo: Yeah, that was terrible. LayTheDon: What about you, Cave? Kevin: Nah, I think you're right though. I mean, game of the week for me is that that Georgia Auburn game. I don't think anybody I I honestly I think majority of the country had Georgia winning that game. Majority. yeah. yeah, yeah. GoFredo: Yeah. Agree. Yeah. LayTheDon: Vegas want some money that game that we just want big money. GoFredo: Great Kevin: yeah, but you know what? I'ma say out of these out of these losses, I think what took me by surprise the most, not just that they lost. But when you lose at home, that's that's that's a rough that's a rough loss for these for these top GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: ten teams. We're talking Georgia, Indiana, and Texas all lost at home. Man, that's GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: that's I don't know, so that's that's a scary sight for some of those teams. So I don't know, we're gonna see how the weeks go on, but we'll we'll see how they shape up coming into the next week. GoFredo: I saw that they I saw that they dropped Texas, I I believe to like twenty, twenty two or something like that for the loss. You and so it's it's it's crazy. And you know, while we here talking about Texas, Archman, you know, like it it Kevin: yeah. GoFredo: you know, I I hate to be that guy, but you know, he was who I thought he was. You know, it I'm just being honest. I think the I just think, and I don't mean to sound mean. I just think that the hype around him was because his last name was Manon. And I just kept telling people, this LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: off watching football, I just kept telling people it's like, yeah, he has the athletic ability that Peyton and Eli doesn't have, but he doesn't, his arm strength doesn't wow you. He doesn't make, you know, great decisions. He does I'm sorry, he doesn't have great decision-making ability. And you have teams that was initially tanking to go and draft him because of that, and it was just like. You know, they beat Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: the teams they supposed to be. And I was looking at them play last year. And I remember telling my homie, I was like, Bro, when they play good teams, it's like he gets panic in the pocket, his feet doesn't get set, he gets antsy, you pressure him, he gets nervous, he's his decision making doesn't happen. It's certain passes that he make that you just that that like his receivers just outstandingly make, and then everybody's just like, well, he's doing this. And so, like I said, I don't need to be rude on Archer B, you know, try to break him down after a bad couple of weeks because, you know, they they they actually are now I saw the other day, well yesterday, that the head coach Stark has now got their red shirt freshman getting first team reps. So we might be looking at a different quarterback. We may be looking at a quarterback change coming soon when it comes to Texas. But the one for me that shocked me honestly, was Notre Dame and BYU. I was I was watching that game live. That game was absolutely amazing. LayTheDon: That was such a close game. GoFredo: That, hey man, that that game was absolutely amazing to sit back, watch that game. I was actually, I'm sorry, I was I was flipping back and forth between the Notre Dame BYU and the Miami Florida State game. Those two games has had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. Both of them came down to last second place, two defensive stops to to win the game. And I just think that You know, congratulations to Miami being number one. no to BYU's number two. I don't think I've ever said that in my lifetime. BYU's ranked number two in college football. Congratulations to them. But it's it's it's exciting to see. college football is getting really, really exciting at this point. I was telling my brother the SEC is just beating up on each other at this point. Like the SEC is knocking their own teams out of the top twelve when it comes to playoff prediction. Like it's it's just crazy how it look when you look at the SEC and the teams they had entering the season and now we're in conference play and all of a sudden you look at those same teams and now you got like, you know, Texas looking on the outside, LSU looking on the LSU was national championships, you know, talk. Now they you know, now they fighting LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: to get back into the top twelve. You know, I believe Bama's on the outside. I think, you know, so it's interesting to see how these things are turning out. Ohio State. got some questions because they quarterback Julius Sand is out indefinitely. So now how are they gonna continue to keep going through with what they got going on and whatnot? It's just you know, we looking at a very interesting time in college football right now when it comes to what's happening. But I'm not really seeing, you know, anybody separate themselves from the rest of the pack like we you know, we have seen in years past, when it comes to certain teams. What do y'all think do y'all do y'all got any National championship so we you know, we halfway through the season. You know, do y'all got any national championship predictions? Anybody changed, anybody mind changed when they game so far? You got anybody lay who you got who you got winning the chip this year? LayTheDon: I I don't I mean honest with you because every time I think that there is one then I don't the script and like I said, I don't think there's a college script. GoFredo: Talking about the script. LayTheDon: There's definitely an NFL script. There's definitely NFL script. But I don't think there's a college script to where like somebody's messing up the script every goddamn week. Because people that ex that should be winning, like I don't know what it is, but Vegas is just is just cashing in on both the NFL and college because some of this shit should not be happening. It shouldn't be happening. GoFredo: Ha ha ha. LayTheDon: And it keeps happening. So like I'm honestly I don't have any Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: contenders for the championship for college. but like I said, I'm I'm being I'm I'm technically forced to root for Auburn. So I'm at least hoping that with Auburn's because their defense it has been looking a little more decent, GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: that they at least get ranked. GoFredo: I I they they didn't rank LayTheDon: I will like to at least see them get ranked. GoFredo: They didn't rank after that Georgia win. LayTheDon: No na yet. GoFredo: Okay. They probably gotta get a couple more wins under their belt. It'll be interesting. LayTheDon: Yeah, they probably need at least like another two another one or two wins to get ranked. But I just just me being a Auburn fan, yeah. GoFredo: Funny as hell. LayTheDon: yeah, I I would I would at least like to see them get ranked. That would be nice to see. GoFredo: I feel you on that one. What about you, Kev? You got any any any national trap predictions or did your did the team you ha thought they was gonna win change so far? Kevin: So far I can't say anybody is really is truly a standout. but GoFredo: Mm-hmm. Kevin: if I'm going with a pick, I gotta take my man, Jeremiah Smith. Boy is a dog, man. Yeah, boy is a dog. That's who I'm that's who GoFredo: That's a fact. That's a fact. Kevin: I'm rocking with right now. GoFredo: You hey hey you know what's crazy, you wanna be honest with you. I would pick Ohio State if if they didn't have a quarterback issue right now. I would pick Ohio State if I if I if Kevin: Mm. That's weird. That's weird. GoFredo: I believe they got you know, they may pull off what they did, you know, a a a while back with when they had Cardell Jones and Braxton Miller and I can't remember the other quarterback that got hurt. I'm I'm sorry, I can't remember his name. But when Cardo Jones came in and led them the rest of way, so you know, depending on who their backup is and how he comes in and performs, you know, but at the end of the day, like you say, all you gotta do is just throw it up there to all. That's the NFL receiver playing college football at this point. Kevin: Doesn't say GoFredo: So I agree with you. With with me, the team that I would go with right now would be I would say Miami, because just the offensive explosion. It's just their defense is a concern for me right now. So right now I don't really have like my prediction was Bama. You know, I have Bama, Miami in the national championship, if I'm being honest with y'all. the way it's looking, LayTheDon: That's funny. GoFredo: I'm you know, actually the crazy part is Bama can still get in the playoffs if they could win out. Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: But, you know, we just have to see. But at the but like Kev said and like you said late, I don't see anybody separating themselves from the pack right now for the most part. When it comes to college footballs. That's what that's what makes this year more exciting than plenty of years past, is that I don't think anybody is really separating themselves from the pack. But we we we got more college football to see. We got an exciting weekend coming this weekend. So we'll see what goes on. I believe O Miss plays Texas this weekend. So that's gonna be another game. So boy, Texas lose that one. Well there's gonna be some questions around not just Arch, but the whole program at that point. Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: So it's gonna be interesting to see that game line up. But let's dive into something. We talked about this quarterback earlier today. So let's just deep dive into it. Philly and Jalen Hurts. They had Jalen Hurts have blood clots, and a doctor told that man that he can't sleep. And Jalen Hurts was up for 36 hours before LayTheDon: Three six moments prior to that game. GoFredo: flying to London and playing a football game. Now, I don't know about y'all, but if I'm up for 36 hours, I'm damn near drunk. Like I'm I'm a drunk, Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: let alone going to go play an NFL football game and be a quarterback playing an NFL football LayTheDon: Right. GoFredo: game. And I I and the crazy part is he actually played well, which is crazy. He he played out he actually played well for what was going on. I I just heard I just read a report earlier today that he actually got was able to get some sleep prior to the game, but man, you up thirty six hours. You gonna need about day near twenty. To really get to get back in. LayTheDon: Just to recover. GoFredo: Yeah, to get back into that. And so now he's out indefinitely for the rest of the season. with what's going on. But Kev, let's start with you, man. What do you think when it comes to how Philly handled the situation with Jalen Hurts having blood caught, still getting on the plane, flying to London, and even playing in the football game? And then the NFL said today before I let you go, the NFL is not punishing Philly for what they did. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: But but we protect players. But go ahead, Kev. That's that's funny to me. Kevin: Yeah. Yeah. You you you hit right on the nose what I was gonna say that it just came out today. you know, they said Philly is not going to get punished. they followed the protocol they were supposed to follow. apparently, apparently, but GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: it's it's one of those it's one of those areas where you know we've seen it time and time again where a coach will ignore Cussion protocol, whatever it is, and send a player back into the game. So we know that these players GoFredo: That's a fact. Kevin: are not truly protected all the time. But you know, again, that's the outside, outside looking in. I think it's unfortunate. I think it's unfortunate that he is going through this health wise. So, you know. We definitely gotta keep that man in our prayers because we don't know how serious that actually is. I mean, it's serious enough to end the season. and that GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: says that says a lot. You know what I mean? now going forward, I think that you know, w d we do have to talk about their, you know, the Philadelphia quarterback situation. I mean, half of the team is overall not well right now, but we're gonna see what happens. we they GoFredo: Okay. Kevin: picked up Joe Melton. So we're gonna see. I I think you know, I think that he's a talented guy. So we're gonna see how he fits in. but again, we're gonna keep in mind, you know, there this is not a this is not the high powered offense that we thought it was gonna be. So we'll see how GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: he does. GoFredo: Yeah, I agree. I agree with you on that. I agree with you on that one. Before I let you go late, I just want to say it's crazy when when, like you said, Kev, definitely thoughts and prayers go out to Jalen Hurts, man. Wish you a full recovery. I it's just crazy to me to sit back and think to myself that the NFL that just talks about protecting players and everything like that. And you have no punishment for this. You're not even saying nothing. You're not doing nothing. Even Philly isn't hasn't came out and said nothing. And I seen somebody say the other day was that Jalen Hurt has been a model and set the standard for what a Philadelphia Eagles should look like. Coming to work, handle his business, no off the field issues, always go Philly handling this business and everything like that. And then this is how you handle the situation, dealing with him. And then it just sucks that now he's out for the year. And then I seen somebody, I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna speak on that clown's name. For come out and saying that he believed Jalen Hurts quit on his team because of what was going on like that. Like Jalen Hurts ain't been the model that he has been and set the standard that he has sent just from high school, college, and to the NFL for so for that clown to say that, and I'm being very disrespectful because I I just think that was dumb as hell to say. for that clown to s speak on what he said, it's just crazy to me. But go ahead, like what you what you what you what you got with your oppositions and what they got going on. LayTheDon: so I actually watched First Tape today. I don't know if it was today's episode or yesterday's episode, but and it it kind of helped me better understand the situation as of what's going on. so from my understanding, based off what they said on first tape, is the coach really has no say in regards to football players' health. All they get is a message or a phone call saying this player is good to go or no go. They don't make the final decision as to stay healthy, they can go play. The coach just gets the yay or nay, basically. and the fact that they had the coach who has no med medical background answering Kevin: They're LayTheDon: questions as to what's going on with him instead of having a medical professional being the one to ask those questions, it feels like they're trying to put all of the blame on the coach. And I'm honest with you, I don't believe that all of the blame should go to the coach. and am I saying the blame should go to the organization, but as a human being, Jalen is still a human being. And I understand like you want to be there for your team and you wanna, but at the end of the day, I at what point does a player believe that their health comes first? Because if as a as a player, if I'm up 36 hours and I'm and I'm I'm I'm getting treatment for blood clots. And it's a possibility that blood clot can fucking travel. Did Jalen not have did he GoFredo: It's LayTheDon: not have the right to say, okay, I don't think I'm okay to play? Because there has been instances where there has been players that have been hurt in the past and they've made the decisions that I don't think I can play. Or they've had coaches that cared to tell, hey, you're sitting this one out. I need you to get better. And the fact that that man is now out because a blood clot that he was getting treated for traveled to his lungs. GoFredo: Foot tomorrow. LayTheDon: Which it can be deadly. Can be deadly and they don't have any clear answers as to who the blame is, but they're trying to put the blame on people like you can't put the blame on the head coach. He is not a medical professional. He does not have a doctor's degree in medical. You cannot put that blame on Jalen Hurts for sure. He is not a medical doctor, but I mean it it it I do think as an organization, Philly sh definitely should take some some responsibility as a team. But whoever the medical professional is that gave him the okay to play, I'm honest with you, I don't think he should have a job anymore. I I I and GoFredo: You want to be honest with your life? LayTheDon: I'm just completely honest with you. Because you just put you just put that man's life online, you just put like everybody in the or Philly organization in jeopardy by by going against what y'all claim is protocol. I don't see this this definitely can't be protocol. There's no way someone you're making someone stay up thirty-six hours and then still having them fly on a plane eight to nine hours to a whole nother country. GoFredo: Don't forget fly back. Fly back. LayTheDon: And for the and to fly back. Kevin: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: And to fly back. All for that what he was getting treated for for thirty-six hours or or so to now have travel to his lungs and caught possibly causing the death. So I I don't I don't know who the blame should go on. But I do believe that the it's the blame doesn't go on one person. I honestly think as a collective unit, the Philadelphia collective unit, including Jalen Hurts, should have some type of fault in this, 'cause like Dude, you I'm sorry, I don't care. I my life is not worth nowhere near as much no no money in the world to where I'm putting my life on the line for this organization. GoFredo: We're gonna be honest with you, Lady. So while I light this Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: cigar, I just wanna let you know, I'm not listening to nothing them people say on first tape. This ain't this ain't this I don't I look in high school your hair LayTheDon: You not listening because Ryan Clark ain't on it no more. They don't GoFredo: I mean I mean I mean Kevin: Okay, yeah. GoFredo: I mean yeah shout out to my boy. LayTheDon: And they but but but the thing is they actually they use Ryan Clark as an example. Like Stephen A brought up an example that in which Ryan Clark, I believe, I don't know if he played or he was on the team in which a coach denied the another player to not play because of their health. Like he would have learned Ryan Clark probably would have brought up that same example. Like they where a coach has told a player, hey, you're not planning because of your health, get better. And GoFredo: True. LayTheDon: the fact that the Philly organization do the do didn't do the same thing, like, GoFredo: You LayTheDon: yeah, I'd be worried. GoFredo: So with me, I'ma be honest with you. LayTheDon: I I'm pretty sure Brian Clark would have had some strong words for that. GoFredo: You wanna be honest with you? I th yeah, Ryan Clark, I'm gonna to check out the pivot to see what he said. Shout out to them boys over there. But shout out to the men over there. LayTheDon: Yeah, I haven't I haven't washed that yet either. GoFredo: loving the setup, y'all got I can't wait till we get our setup like that. Or s or or or get our setup, you know, you dig. But look, check this out. I will say this. Nick Siriani definitely knew. The head coach definitely knew. It's as is he knew what was going on. He knew I I can't make excuses for it because the head coach knows all. He definitely he definitely knew what was going on. And and and and if he didn't know what was going on, that's a bigger problem within the organization and that the head coach didn't know that his starting quarterback had blood cloths and was off up thirty-six hours. So that's that. when it comes to Jalen Hurts, it that that's that's we we're we we've all been athletes before. That's a hard thing to kind of digest when it comes from there because it's hard to kinda you know, get out your own way when it comes to certain things, especially with the Philly media, everything that's going on around him, him still not being good enough after when being a Subo MVP, like, you know, like we talked about earlier into earlier episode and I'm sorry, in the earlier point of this episode, how he still gets bashed and everything like that. And even with him out with blood Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: clots, and being out for the year, you got you got clowns Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: out here going on NFL network saying that, you know, Jalen Hurts quit on his team bac basically. So you got that. Around it, knowing that he still went out there and played. So I think that plays a factor into it as well. and also realistically, the gap between Jalen Hurts and Tanner McKee is crazy. Like it's crazy, which is and I don't know if y'all know Tanner McKee is their backup. So it's crazy crazy the distance and the gap between the two. So he probably thought that Kevin: There's here. GoFredo: he can go out there, get a big win for him, and he probably didn't think it was gonna be as bad. Depending on what the medical what the what they medical examiner said and what not moving forward. But to me, I think Nick Siriani, understanding his job is on the line, has been on the line, like we said in previous episodes, he's been on the bubble for a long time. And I think it's I think it's now coming to a head with AJ Brown departure, the offense not performing, Saquon's been down, you know, in and out. Devontae Smith still hasn't gotten to that. Complete number one role. It's a whole bunch of things. Their defense has been up and down, roller coaster. Something that used to help them, you know, win games and sustain until the offense click has now become, I don't want to call it a liability, but they're not being the top five defense that we've seen in previous seasons to help, you know, mass some of these offensive woes. So when it comes to that, I think Philly failed Jalen Hurts. it's like I said, it's hard to It's hard for me being an ex-athlete to say, you know, it's Jalen Hurt's fault when I understand as a player, when we get when like as a like football is a gladiator sport. So, you know, you get a high ankle sprain, it's tape it up, get back out there. You got guys playing with clubs on their hands because they broken fingers. So it's just one of those things that if the medical examiner says cleared, he's gonna play. So like I said, I think it's it's on the medical examiner for clearing him and letting him play. Like I said, I don't know the whole medical background behind it. But at the end of the day, they miss me with that when they say Nick Sirianni didn't know and you can't blame him. Nick Serianni knew. And Nick Serianni put his job over Jalen Hurts health. Let's call a spade a spade. Not true, I'm saying on first take. LayTheDon: No, I I I'm gonna say I wasn't saying that he didn't I wasn't saying that he didn't know. It was the fact that no, they didn't say they they didn't say he didn't know. They said that like the head coach is not the person that makes the it gives them the okay to play. They are the ones that get the okay to play, is what I was saying. Like basically they get the hey, this person's a go, this person's a no-go. If they forget the person's a no-go, okay, that person's not playing. But if they get the person's a go, then that means that's all they can do. They can't. They're not the ones that say, you're not playing. Now I feel like as a coach, as a coach who truly cares about his emplo players, if you saw that he got the okay to go, but you were aware of the situation as to what was going on with him, he should have made that call like, yo, I don't think you should play. He knew about everything, but it was the fact GoFredo: Thank you. Thank you. LayTheDon: that you got you they somebody somebody told you that he was okay to go, and you as a head coach didn't second get second guess that. That's my issue. GoFredo: Man, let's c let's call a spade spade. He understands his job on the line. And so he put his job over Jalen Hurts health. Let's just call a spade a spade. And now Jalen Hurts gone for the season. And now, like Kev said, they picked up Joe Milton the third. I I we were talking about him earlier this year. I'm excited to see him get an opportunity. He actually I was I it's funny, I can show y'all the text message. I just text my brother and them yesterday and told them. Jalen Hurts might have lost his job. Because if Joe Milton can perform like he performed in the preseason and get the ball down the field, make great plays and take a p take advantage of this opportunity. It's gonna be some conversations around do J do you start Jalen Hurts next year, if Joe Milton can come in and rally and get this team some wins and maybe if they can get into the playoffs, we may be having a different conversation when it comes to the Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurts and even Nick Siriani keeping his job. So I'm rooting for Joe Milton, but at the same time, it sucks seeing Jalen Hurry have to go through this with everything that's going on. but real quick, I just want to deep dive since we're on the NFC East and we got two NFC East teams of, you know, fans on this side. Let's deep dive into it. Because Lei, you said something to me early today, and you know, and I was just curious. The NFC East ain't won a game in two weeks. Is that true? Is that true, Kevin Leigh? Is that is that it was what's going on? Kevin: I mean I mean GoFredo: What's happening? LayTheDon: Why are you bringing up other stuff? Why you bring a tie still lost, goddamn. Y'all ain't winning. Y'all damn sure ain't win. A tie is still goddamn lost. Then it Kevin: I mean my team had a tie. My team had a tie. I don't I don't I don't know about lay. I don't I don't know about lay. We ain't lose neither. We we ain't lose neither. LayTheDon: yes. Unfortunately, the NFC East has had a winless they GoFredo: Hey, this man said we got a tie. LayTheDon: had a winless, winless last two games. what it is. I'm I'm gonna be honest with you. Obviously, like Washington got some excuse. They're fucking quarterback keep getting fucking hurt. Giants GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: also quarterback hurt. Eagles now they quarterback hurt. My quarterback, I don't Kevin: What's that was excuse? LayTheDon: know if he on drugs. I don't know if something's GoFredo: Right. LayTheDon: wrong with him. I'm gonna be honest with you. I ain't I ain't got an explanation GoFredo: Bye. LayTheDon: for my quarterback. I'm be honest with you. That that that Quavius is what I'm gonna call him. And they call him off first GoFredo: Talk about that quavius. LayTheDon: day. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: It's been like and the thing is, like, I'm not even saying like Dak had with the exception of this past game, Dak still has been playing great games. The problem is I don't know if GoFredo: And okay. LayTheDon: it means he's been playing okay games. Don't don't get me wrong, but it's like all of our losses have been to like the dumbest mistakes. Like with a game against freaking the Ravens, like we literally lost because our our our player had butterfingers and and and couldn't catch the ball and it ended up in an interception. This past game we had two interceptions and one of the interceptions was due to CD Lamb literally slipping on turf. Like GoFredo: I think I I didn't mean to cut you off late, but that Ravens loss, I'm gonna be honest with you, and when we talked about it, I'm blaming Dak. He had Pickens wide open on the out route. All you gotta do is throw it to the sideline and let Pickens go and catch the ball. Instead of he sailed it over his head, go out of bounds, and they kicked the field goal. Now the Ravens got a chance. And then they kicked it and then they got like and then obviously your defense gave up the that what was it, a skinny post or a post, or maybe like was a fifteen yard dig LayTheDon: Yep. GoFredo: route. Over the middle of the field to put in the field goal range, but LayTheDon: Not to mention not to mention we also was missing C D Lamb for the la for the fourth quarter as well. So like our offer I'm not gonna say our office was limited, but like a lot of factors kinda and like I say it was it was minor mistakes and minor fuck ups that really fucked up that game. And then like I say, GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: the past game with the freaking Bucks, like the minor, like the the the the random drops, the the slip with C D Lamb, I think Ferguson it it popped off his hands like the the two interceptions that we had literally came from tips or came from the ball popping up somebody's hands. Like I don't and and and and Dak is pretty accurate when it comes to throwing. Like he we we can all agree that Dak is pretty accurate when it comes to no Dax Dak's accuracy is is is decently well but like if I feel like if if if we can GoFredo: And I'll smoke my cigar, huh? Yeah, chilly. LayTheDon: c if we can just clean up the the mistakes if we can clean up the minor Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: mistakes and stuff like we still have a chance to be on top. And and I I still believe that we're gonna make it there. I'm gonna be honest GoFredo: Top of what? LayTheDon: with you, I still think it of our division. Excuse me. I GoFredo: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: still think that we can make it on top of our division. Cause like look at it this way. Jaden Daniels is out again. Same fucking album. Jaden. GoFredo: What's the Giants record, Kev? Real quick, late. What's the giants record, Kev? Kevin: Three one and one. Three three one and one. LayTheDon: Giants Burger is two, three, and one. Or my bad, three. Three, two, and one, my bad. Three, GoFredo: I thought they was three, two, and one. They three okay, I wanted to make okay, I thought so. LayTheDon: two and one. Right. They are literally GoFredo: I wanted okay. Cam said, hold on now, we three. Kevin: Ha ha ha. LayTheDon: they are literally a a a game or two away Kevin: Good to know. LayTheDon: from us. And I like I said, I don't think Giants is only up there for the moment. Giants been to drop. They might not be last. I'll give it to y'all. Y'all might be like third. Maybe second. I'll even give y'all a second. GoFredo: No. No. LayTheDon: If Joe Milton don't perform like we think he's gonna perform, y'all might be second. But I can pretty sure y'all gonna be third for sure. Y'all not about to be in first for too long. Kevin: Well GoFredo: I think I think the Giants got it. Go Ojibwe take care. Kevin: We LayTheDon: I don't think they got it. Kevin: up there, but I'm I think when it comes to Dallas, I think the most concerning part about Dallas is their defense. Their defense does not show up to games. Period. Y'all give up way they Dallas just gives up way too many points. And then when their offense is just not flowing, I mean this is for like again, we've we said this in previous episodes. This was supposed to be a high powered offense. I mean, this was supposed to be this was this was rated one of the top five offenses in the league at the start of the season. Just based on just GoFredo: Thanks. Kevin: based on roster, you know what I mean? So when that offense is not performing and the defense is the defense is bad. We can't we can't we can't get around that. The defense is bad. LayTheDon: Did okay, I can our defense is bad, but I can honestly say I've seen improvements since game one. We are making vital stops. We GoFredo: I'd I'll give you that. LayTheDon: are we are making vital stops. We are doing better in the red zone. So I'm not I'm not like, is our defense bad? Yes. But I I I can see our defense starting to finally come at least together. Now the office, like I said, for some reason they're not on one court, and I I still believe to this day that we have a top five ranked rank offense. But like I I just feel like just give us some time. Like we had a rough two rough two games. I get it. But I still think GoFredo: I'm like, Kev, how much time you need? LayTheDon: I still think Dallas gonna make it up there. Like I I'm gonna be honest with you. Like we still have a chance. Kevin: I don't GoFredo: How much time you need? Kevin: know man. I I talked to I talked to Jerry last week. He said he sending out pinch flips in the November. GoFredo: Yeah. Hey, what I will say Kevin: talk to him. He said he me out pink flips into November, man. I don't know. GoFredo: What I would say about I'm sorry, I'm sitting here gr looking up looking up Dallas right now. So Dallas play Philly on Monday next week. When when with when it comes to Dallas with me, that's concerning is that I like the I like the the trade for Joey Porter Junior. he gave up a few plays, but overall he I think he played really good. That kind of shores up the D Bs. I think defensively against the Packers. I sat back and watched that game. I think defensively against the Packers, it was the big plays that they was giving up. The Packers, I mean Golden dropped two touchdowns. Watson dropped a touchdown. So, you know, that stuff happens in football. you was able to get those, but my concern with Dallas overall, if I'm being honest with you, is just the offense. I'm not really understanding what's going on with the play calling. I know a lot of people is and and I know you said it, Kev, but even when I was watching a game, they was talking about and I've seen like you know, certain reports and certain things with other people talking about Dallas around the league when it comes to their issues with deep with the defense and the defensive coordinator being on the hot seat. But with me, it's the offense. It's the fact that your offense, like Kev said, I expect this offense to put up 30 points a game. Like somewhere between 30 points a game. It's like I'm not understanding why you you can't get Pickens involved. you have a game where CD gets 17 catches and then the next week he gets two. it's like you like it's almost like Ferguson, where has he been? Like I know he had a couple injuries, but where's he getting? Dallas running back, Devon Javante Williams, really good running back. Really good running back. You're not giving him the ball like that. And there's just certain LayTheDon: What you mean? Hold on, you ain't checked Devon Devon Devontae has been playing crazy the last few games. What are we talking about? Just one game alone. That man GoFredo: No, I'm saying LayTheDon: got three touchdowns by himself with no passing TDs. What are we talking about? GoFredo: What what'd you just say? What'd you say? One game. One game. LayTheDon: He averages at least a T D per game. What are we talking about here? Chavante has been going crazy. GoFredo: Hey, hey. Hey, just because you run the ball in from the five yard line don't mean you going crazy. LayTheDon: Does he does what he's supposed to do? Kevin: Ha ha ha ha LayTheDon: That man average at least one or two TDs a game. Stop playing with my man Javante. Put some respect on my man's name. Put some respect on my man's name, bruh. You not GoFredo: And look, and look, this what I'm saying. And this what I'm saying, I I am, I'm s no, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying he should be getting the ball more. That's what I'm trying to tell you. LayTheDon: He gives all more. GoFredo: Not enough. Not enough. Not enough. LayTheDon: Whatever. GoFredo: Because the problem is, because hey look, hey look, don't take, don't take your Dallas frustration out on me on me. LayTheDon: No, you might like to play with my mask like that. Like, who we talking about here? Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: Don't take the Dallas frustration out on me. LayTheDon: But side note, side question. Sad question with that. I got a question, cause Mike Urban said this, and I'm really starting to believe. Like I'm not gonna say I really start to believe, but I do I I understand wholeheartedly what he said. So it's crazy how When people talk about Dallas, Dallas can't do wrong or right in nobody's eyes. And when I say that, when I say that, I mean if Dallas was to be the team, right? If we were to win, then it's this team has so many faults and this, that, and the third, or this team was trash, that but then if Dallas does well, I'm gonna phrase that. I said that backwards. If Dallas wins a game, is this team was trash, this team didn't do that good, dah, dah dah. But if Dallas lose. Then all the fault is on is is is the opposite. Like why why does Dallas like for example, if we win next week against Philly, are y'all gonna blame us fixing the problems and doing better? Or y'all gonna blame it on, they ain't got no good players, they ain't got no starters, and that's why we won. GoFredo: There ain't got no status. LayTheDon: Like Dallas don't Dallas don't ever get the praise Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: for when we're actually doing good. If we do good, that means the other team was just sucking really bad. It's never just Dallas actually did really good. We don't ever get our flowers for doing what the hell we supposed to do. But the minute Dallas lose is yeah, Dallas sucked. Dallas is like when would Dallas was there's that gonna be don't get me wrong, like Brennan, we lost, but we were doing decently well defensively, at least the last couple of games. GoFredo: I see it, I see it defensively. LayTheDon: The defense definitely looked deep the definitely d from from game one and two to last game five and six, Dallas' defense has looked a good better. And even Stephen GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: A has to point that out that he actually saw a difference between week one and two versus five and six. GoFredo: I yeah, I think that I think LayTheDon: So if Dallas was to beat Philly on Monday, is it gonna be because, you know, Philly down bad, or is it because, you know, And and Dallas is doing better or is it just gonna be because, you know, just by chance 'cause, you know, like are we gonna get our flowers if we be Philly next week? Or y'all gonna just say because they down back? GoFredo: I'm gonna let you go, Kev. I'm just gonna real quick. I got I got I got my answer for her real quick. you I got I will say this. Dallas defense has looked better. That's why I said it's up with the offense that's concerning to me with why you can't get Pickens involved, why you can't get CD involved consistently. Kevin: I think that's GoFredo: And that's why I was saying give the ball to Javante more. And where's Ferguson been? I know he's been out with injuries. They got him they got their backup tight end performing a little bit better. He had a great little leap over somebody against the Packers Saturday. so with me, it's just the offensive woes to me when it comes back when it comes to them. But I will say defensively they had approved. But when it comes to you beating Philly next week, in my personal, I will just say you beat Philly because you were supposed to be Philly. Like to me, when I look at what how I how I look at football, you beat the teams you're supposed to beat. I'm not gonna give you a pat on the back for beating the teams you're supposed to beat. If Dallas was to play Miami next week, no disrespect to Miami. But if Dallas was to play Miami next week and they pitch a shutout and put up 50 points, I expect that from you because y'all are just better than you're better than Miami and you got this explosive offense. But when you and you playing Philly next week, who is Saquon is still out, I believe. he's in and out of the rotation. They down to their third string court, second to third string. Actually third string because Andy Dalton was the backup. Now he's gone. So now you're down to Tanner McKee and your practice squad quarterback. And so now to that, that's again you're supposed to win. So it's so so if they lose, so it's they're in a situation to where they damned if they do and they damned if they don't. But I'm gonna let Kev go. Go ahead, Kev. I I just wanna say that. Kevin: Yeah, it well, nah, I mean you you you saying you saying exactly how I would say it. I think when you're coming off of I mean, the NFC's obviously, you know, we've been we you know it's been bad for the last two weeks. but when you're coming off of a loss to Tampa Bay and then Green Bay right after, that's a rough place for that football team. 'Cause those are GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: games that they're supposed to win. And that was just healthy. That I think that's my only complaint, if I'm making one complaint about Dallas and the NFC East, is that they are the healthiest team in this division. And for some reason are not performing. GoFredo: I think they finna fire their head coach, honestly. I think Jerry finna fire this head coach. Kevin: Told you Jerry Jerry Jerry said LayTheDon: Nah. Kevin: he sent him pink slips end of November. GoFredo: Or not not I'm sorry, not the head coach. LayTheDon: Should you GoFredo: I think they're gonna fire the defensive coordinator first. I don't think he makes it out the end of the year, depending on how the defense continue to play. And if the offense can't seem to figure it out, I wouldn't be surprised if he'll fire the offensive coordinator before he fired a head coach. In my honest opinion. LayTheDon: I don't I'm gonna be honest with you. I I don't see them firing a coach. I honestly think that this was just a hiccup. Like it is some GoFredo: They lose against Philly next week, somebody can fire. LayTheDon: I'm not I'm I'm gonna say if if if we happen to lose against Philly, then alright, they're gonna start asking questions. But I just don't I I think this was just a bad two-week game. I think it was just a low hiccup. Like I said, most of our Walls literally were on like our own, like it wasn't like it was a bad call, a bad play, or a bad call. It was literally just either A, they were dropping balls, and it wasn't like they were dropping the balls. Like the balls was just getting tipped off fingertips or tipped off GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: helmets. the one interception with TD is literally he slipped on bad turf. Like it was stuff like that. I think it was just literally minor like like hiccups. It wasn't like, you know, GoFredo: Anyway. LayTheDon: other than him. Other other than the the the one or two plays that Dak didn't fully read the build and there were day times where like Pickens was wide open, I get it. But I just think it was just some slight communic miscommunication within the last two weeks. and I honestly think that we we we God is gonna get back to what they know. Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: Blues. LayTheDon: I honestly just think it's too bad bad bad two weeks. I honestly think no, nigga, GoFredo: Ha ha ha. LayTheDon: no. I honestly think like I said, the way that Steven always talking about, just wait on it, just wait on it gonna disappoint you. I honestly think that that Dallas gonna come back. We make it a playoffs for sure. GoFredo: You stamping that? LayTheDon: I'm stamping it. GoFredo: And you know what? We got some time. Dallas don't make the playoffs LayTheDon: No, we don't. I'm not betting nothing. I'm broke. GoFredo: No wait no, no, no, no. You were stamping it though. You was stabbing Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: Still stamp it. I I one hundred percent stamp it. I'm not betting, nothing though. GoFredo: I was gonna get you a Giants Eagles and Re and a Re whoa. A Giants, Eagles, and Commanders t-shirt. It's gonna say e it's gonna be like. LayTheDon: You r you rem you remember last time you tried to do that? How'd that work out for you? How how that worked out for you? GoFredo: No, I'm gonna prepare it this time. I'm gonna order it today. Nah, you wanna know this? I'm gonna order it today because they're not gonna make the playoffs. It's gonna just sit at your crib and you just wait, you just wait to wear it. Just be prepared to wear it in January. Hey look. LayTheDon: Yeah, it'll get lost. Send it to my house and gonna get lost on purpose. GoFredo: Hey look, Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: when it comes to I don't wanna spend too much well, we already spent all this time on Dallas. But when it comes to Dallas, to be honest with you, I just state that they just got a few things to figure out. obviously like we you know, we've all known this, it's because it's Dallas, the quote unquote Americans team. They'll always get talked about. It's something that I definitely want to talk about before we close the show out with the Giants and Kev. Harbaugh didn't even get scattered with a carry. And did Winston get benched for J J. McCarthy? Is I didn't I didn't watch the game. I just looked up and J they I got the ESPN up there that J J threw a pick. Did did Winston get benched or did he get hurt? Like what was going on in New York? Kevin: So right now it it's looking like it's looking like he got benched. Looking like he got benched. But I I think this was expected though. I mean, when you make when when you make that type of trade, JJ McCarthy, I think so I think the issue that that came was they were not we were not prepared for Jackson Dark to go down in week two. That was I think that caught I think that caught everybody by surprise. And then Jameis unfortunately in you know, week three, his performance was just not there. So, you know, that trade, that McCarthy trade, you know, that happened ASAP. You know what mean? but the unfortunate part is that James, he actually stepped up and started to play well. But you know, it's it's one of those things, like he has to get in groove to play. You know what I mean? He has to get in groove. he's been doing well over the last couple of weeks despite a despite a tie. Despite a tie. He's been playing LayTheDon: Lost. GoFredo: That's really what it is, a long LayTheDon: Who's a loss? Kevin: You know, and y'all y'all just a lost cause. How about that? Y'all just a lost cause. GoFredo: Hey. LayTheDon: You do realize that that that tie is what's gonna cause y'all to not go to the Super Bowl I mean not go to the playoffs. That GoFredo: Hey, you wanna be honest with you? I Kevin: great. LayTheDon: tie is what's gonna mess y'all up from going to the playoffs. GoFredo: I think I think that tie is is it's a divisional tie. I think that tie Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: is gonna play a factor down the line. Whether 'cause it it's early too. I think that tie is gonna play Kevin: It is. It is. LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: a factor down the line. I think with I don't agree with Harbor benching Scat. I I really don't. The Jameis bench, because they got JJ, I can see it I I mean I kinda s you know, i i I don't know, I wanna say it makes sense, but I would have gave I would have just let Winston finish the game out and Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: then gave JJ a full week practice with the first team where Epson kind of go from there instead of having this controversy. I think what what's going on in in New York right now is that the media is going crazy with what's going on. You bench Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: Jamison, Scatterboo don't get a carry. They just released Najee Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: Harris today. There's so much going on right now, and it's just like, you know, Scat fumbled the ball. I get it. You know, but I'm not benching Scatterboo and then John and then, you know, he has a you know, his what was I I wanna say if he has post game interview or whatever it was after and he was just like, No running back is separating they self from the bunch right now. No running back is doing this, that and the third and you Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: know, and it's just like it is. Scatterboo is your number LayTheDon: So that's how you run though. GoFredo: one. He fumbled the ball. It's unfortunate Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: it happens, but like what are we doing? Kevin: But he said you I don't know if you you saw it, he said, you know, we're not we're not designing plays based on who is in the backfield. I'm like, yeah, I was like, excuse me? Excuse me. and hey, listen. GoFredo: Thank you. That's how you lost your job in in Baltimore. That's how you lost your job. LayTheDon: Yep. Kevin: Hey, and we and and and then just and when we're talking about running backs, we've seen that happen but we've seen that happen how many times before? And this is my favorite example of that. Beast Mo was in the backfield and he did not get ball and look what happened and look what happened. You know what I mean? GoFredo: Come on now. A whole dynasty was ruined. A whole dynasty. LayTheDon: Yeah. And Beast Mo and Beast Mo will not let nobody forget that shit at all. And that's my that's my nigga. GoFredo: Come on. Hey, neither is the defense. Not Kevin: as he said. GoFredo: nobody on the defense is getting. Hey, the the crazy part is that's that's almost like Derrick Henry fumbled the ball last week against against Cleveland and they lost. You think you think Derrick Henry gonna get benched? Now I know obviously it's it's it's LayTheDon: Was with a GoFredo: qu it's quote unquote King Henry. So I know that people are gonna say you compare Derrick Henry to to Scatterboo. No, I'm not saying I'm just saying when your number one running back. Like he fumbles the ball is bad enough. And like, you know, people saying, you know, it's football, you'll have controversy. You're gonna have these things happen. But at the end of the day, you know, I I'm gonna get you back out there and get you to run in the ball. I'm gonna get you back out there to get your confidence back up. I'm gonna get you back out there to get you going. It's like you said, Kev. You telling me in X amount of snaps, a whole 60 minute football game, you ain't giving him the ball not one time. And I seen I seen Ocho say something the other day. So you telling me if he ain't getting no snaps in the game. That means it tells me he ain't getting no snaps in practice. So you telling me like this is what's going on? Like, we all play sports before. We know how this go. I ain't never been LayTheDon: Right. GoFredo: in, I ain't never been practiced in in football, and I'm out there getting catches, doing what I do, and I come into the game and I don't get no catches? I ain't getting a target. Nah, dog. Nah. Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: Nah. So I I think I don't think I don't think Harbaugh on the hot seat. I honestly think he just, Kevin: No. GoFredo: like you said, Kev, I just think that Dart got hurt. They've been dealing with some injuries. You know, Malik got hurt, likely got, you know, tweaked up, things of that nature. And I honestly think they're just scrambling for answers right now. And I think the the one thing Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: that's, you know, looking good for them right now is the NFC East is all in, it's in flux right now. So you got everybody Kevin: Yeah, exactly. GoFredo: got time. Everybody got time in the NFC East to kind of gather themselves. So it's gonna be interesting to see how everything play out. I'm excited to see. what next week looks like between Philly and the Cowboys on that Monday night football. I would love I would love to see Joe Milton start that game. If not, I expect Dallas to win that game. If not, we're gonna definitely talk about that next episode for sure. definitely. And it's not about anything I just wanna want like us analyzing a game of football to see what they wrong. Yeah, it like well no, I'm not just saying I'm just saying like LayTheDon: It it's a it's a it it it's about everything. I'm gonna say it's not about anything. No, it's about everything. GoFredo: because if you lose to if you lose to a a technically a third string quarterback It's questions that need to be asked, not just defensively, but why and to me, out of everything when it comes to Dallas, it's I'm just not understanding why this offense can't get flowing. That's just my thing. When I look at them play, like you said, Lay. LayTheDon: It's just that Quavius. That that Quavius should see his ass whooped and we're gonna get it together. Don't worry about it. we gonna get there, okay? We win it next week, okay? you might as GoFredo: I ain't mad at you. I ain't mad at you. Hey. LayTheDon: well go ahead, go ahead and put that bet in right now. Cause you know, like we ain't we ain't gonna win we might lose two. We ain't gonna lose three. GoFredo: No no no no no no I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. LayTheDon: We might lose two, but we damn sure not even lose three. GoFredo: Hey look, if I wanted to lose money, I just throw it outside. You hear me? If I wanted to lose, you told me I'll bet on Dallas. LayTheDon: You know what? You know what? GoFredo: If I wanted to lose money, I just throw it outside. You hear me? Yeah, you hear me. I'll do I'll throw money outside before I bet on Dallas. Very disrespectfully. But LayTheDon: You know what? And that's for and that's for the exchange. We're gonna see y'all in two weeks.