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#116 - Vampires Part II · Phantom Journey's Podcast

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  SPEAKER_05: Uh welcome back to episode two of vampires.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hope you enjoy.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sorry about the delay.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's been a hot one.
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  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_05: Leading on to Nosferatu of 2024, Robert Eggers essentially circles back to the beginning.
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  SPEAKER_05: His Orlock is ancient, grotesque, diseased and profoundly unnatural.
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  SPEAKER_05: Rather than a glamorous vampire, in a strange way, modern cinema has come full circle.
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  SPEAKER_05: After decades of making vampires beautiful, powerful, and romantic, Orlock remains audien reminds audiences that the vampire originally belonged to the darkest.
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  SPEAKER_05: But we do have an also an honorable mention of what we do in the shadows.
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  SPEAKER_04: Great.
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  SPEAKER_05: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_04: I love the original movie.
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  SPEAKER_04: I did see that.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I it was also made by T uh Taquita Kita and uh the T V show is brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: But and he turns into a bat.
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  SPEAKER_04: He just can't turn into a bat without showing it, you know.
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  SPEAKER_05: So what we do in the shadows is a horror comedy uh TV series that turns the traditional vampire story completely on its head.
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  SPEAKER_05: Based on a 2014 film by Jermaine Clement and Takeda Wakita.
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  SPEAKER_04: Close enough.
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  SPEAKER_05: The series follows a group of vampires that have lived together for centuries in Staten Island in New York.
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  SPEAKER_05: Instead of ruling the night or terrifying humanity, they spend most of their time arguing over household chores, petty rivalries, relationships, and their increasingly ridiculous attempts to understand modern life.
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  SPEAKER_05: The series mixes traditional vampire mythology with absurd comedy while still featuring familiar creatures such as werewolves and witches and ghosts, energy vampires and other supernatural beings.
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  SPEAKER_05: At its heart, the show parodies vampire culture but also shows how far vampires have travelled from their folklore roots.
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  SPEAKER_05: They aren't mysterious creatures lurking in the darkness.
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  SPEAKER_05: They're dysfunctional roommates who happened to be immortal blood-drinking monsters.
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  SPEAKER_04: That are also filming a document behind the scenes documentary with a documentary group.
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  SPEAKER_05: Between the ancient vampire traditions, modern pop culture references, and completely ridiculous situations, what we do in the shadows represents perhaps the ultimate evolution of vampires.
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  SPEAKER_05: The monster that has gone from something humans fear to something humans can laugh at.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Collins.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh collar.
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  SPEAKER_04: The the energy vampire is like, oh my god, I know this guy.
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  SPEAKER_04: You would like have to be polite and say, hey, how are you doing?
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  SPEAKER_04: And then by the time you're like, kill me, kill me.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh Dell de Brass, I just want to know how you were doing.
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  SPEAKER_05: I shouldn't have said anything.
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  SPEAKER_05: Earlier, I had mentioned how Dracula has was a bit more connected to the air to Nosratu.
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  SPEAKER_05: And did you know that in some folklore there are stories of living humans having offspring of vampires, such as Dracula?
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  SPEAKER_05: No.
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  SPEAKER_05: They're known as Denver.
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  SPEAKER_05: I did not know that.
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  SPEAKER_04: But before you go on to them, I want to put in a couple of honorable mentions into the vampire movies that I think you missed, that I think the listeners would greatly love if they haven't seen them.
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  SPEAKER_04: But also, I think that they need to be mentioned.
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  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_04: The first one is Fright Knight.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's an original from the 80s, but then there was the remake with David Tennett in the 2000s.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it's just, and I mean, if you guys are Doctor Who fans, like David David Tennet is the Doctor, this is a great way of seeing him play uh an evil vampire uh hunter.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, wait, he was yeah, he was the vampire hunter.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's been so long since the Zenobia, I can't remember.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so he was the vampire hunter, so it's it's a great movie.
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  SPEAKER_04: But then the one that I really I think it should be up here is uh last year's Oscar Winter Sinners.
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  SPEAKER_04: That one is a great movie, and I love it one because I've I'm a big blues guy.
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  SPEAKER_04: Two, it had Buddy Guy in it, and he's just amazing.
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  SPEAKER_04: Hey, Buddy Blues Guy.
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  SPEAKER_04: But uh it had a great story.
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  SPEAKER_04: You felt for the for the characters the you felt when the wrong ones got killed, you felt something when the right ones got killed, and then you've you're left at the end of the story going, oh my god, that was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_04: So Sinners and Fright Knight.
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  SPEAKER_05: All right, so be on this list.
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  SPEAKER_04: Hey, add that to the Halloween uh movie list.
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  SPEAKER_04: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_04: I would actually recommend both of those as a double feature.
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  SPEAKER_04: Halloween night, when you're sitting there wondering what to do when there's no one coming to the door asking trick-or-treat.
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  SPEAKER_04: Sounds good.
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  SPEAKER_05: So a Demphere is traditionally described, and I maybe pronounce that wrong.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm not really sure.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh but from the way you have it uh spelled it there, looked, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: So it the Dempphere is traditionally described as the offspring of a vampire and a human.
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  SPEAKER_05: The idea comes from the Balkan vampire folklore, although the exact details can vary between communities.
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  SPEAKER_05: Some uh in some traditions, a vampire can still have trilli children with a living woman, producing a child either completely human nor completely supernatural.
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  SPEAKER_05: Did I write that right?
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  SPEAKER_05: Does that sound right?
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  SPEAKER_04: They're neither living or dead.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, okay.
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  SPEAKER_04: They're never liv not really living.
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  SPEAKER_05: This gives the vampir an unusual place in the vampire mythology.
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  SPEAKER_05: Rather being created by a vampire bite, the vampire is born from a relationship between the living and the dead.
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  SPEAKER_05: Some folklore also contains beliefs that the vampires returning to their families are having sexual relationships with the living, which provides part of the background for their idea.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's hard to picture Nasfratu or Dracula getting it on.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_05: Well, Dracula I could see, but maybe not Nosferatu because that's just weird.
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  SPEAKER_05: But yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: What makes the Damphir particularly interesting is that the layer traditions have often given them special abilities involving vampires themselves.
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  SPEAKER_05: In some accounts, the Dampphyr could recognize or see vampires when ordinary people couldn't, making them natural vampire hunters.
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  SPEAKER_05: Other traditions gave them unusual physical or supernatural abilities.
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  SPEAKER_05: The details aren't consistent enough to treat the powers as universal folklore, but the basic idea is a person caught between two worlds is remarkably remarkably persistent.
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  SPEAKER_05: Dampphyr eventually became a major part of modern vampire fiction, where the concept was expanded dramatically.
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  SPEAKER_05: Characters such as Blade transformed the idea of something much more recognizable to modern audiences.
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  SPEAKER_05: The human vampire hybrid who possesses some vampire abilities without being completely consumed by vampirism.
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  SPEAKER_05: There is an important step in the evolution of the vampire because the creature is no longer simply the monster.
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  SPEAKER_05: The vampire's blood can now exist inside the human being, creating a character who can potentially stand on either side of the conflict.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna suck your blood! No, I'm not! Yes, I am.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm not.
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  SPEAKER_05: You decide.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let's move on to something a little bit more real.
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  SPEAKER_04: Can I tell my real life?
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_04: You can't.
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  SPEAKER_04: I I have a real life vampire story.
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  SPEAKER_04: Very cool.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I wish it had gone a little further than they actually did in real life, but this is my real life vampire story.
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  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_04: You ready?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I am.
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  SPEAKER_04: Everybody out there ready?
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  unknown: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_04: So um this would have been late 90s.
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  SPEAKER_04: I was working for a TV station.
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  SPEAKER_04: I was a cameraman for the uh I was a floor cameraman for uh the evening news.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so we would do the four or five, no, it was five, six, I guess no, I guess it was four, five, and six o'clock shows.
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  SPEAKER_04: So there was three hours we were we would do a back-to-back shows.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then from there we'd do lunch, and then you would be sitting on your butt till about nine thirty, yeah, until they did the ten o'clock show.
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  SPEAKER_04: So during that time, um we were pretty much just do whatever the hell we wanted, which was great.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you're getting paid to do whatever the hell you wanted for a few hours.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: But uh the cool thing was I would sit in with the newsroom and when they were trying to come up with stories that were going on outside of the studio to go cover for the 10 o'clock show.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so one day I'm sitting there and um one of the uh reporters she calls her contacted the police dis at the police department and says, Hey, it's kind of a slow Tuesday because it was like a Tuesday night.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, still Tuesday or Wednesday.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, is there anything going on that we need to know about?
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  SPEAKER_04: And she had him on speaker, and he came back and said, No, not really, unless you want to go check out the vampires that are being reported at the KFC.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, I want to go.
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  SPEAKER_04: I couldn't go, but I was like, that's where I was thinking my I wish my vampire story went a little further because I would have I would have been in that car so fast to head down there with a camera to go see what the vampires and caves.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
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  SPEAKER_05: He didn't want to see vampires, he just wanted KFC.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because I remember, I remember Ken you saying that you love KFC.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_04: I do, I love fried chicken.
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  SPEAKER_05: So, I mean, me too.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's it would have been a win-win.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's true.
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  SPEAKER_04: Fried chicken and vampires.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, well, and it had I mean I'm still I just remember standing there like, I want to go, I want to go out and go, but at the same time, I had so many questions like, what are vampires doing at KFC?
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  SPEAKER_04: Do vampires eat chicken?
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_04: Do vampires eat?
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  SPEAKER_04: Do they just drink blood?
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_04: Is there someone down there they want to turn into a vampire?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_04: Are these oh I had so many questions, and I seriously had those all running through my head when they were there talking.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_04: I almost played stick to this to go see the the vampires at the KFC.
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  SPEAKER_04: So they're very that's my real life vampire story.
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  SPEAKER_05: I want a book of chicken.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that would have been cool, too.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
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  SPEAKER_04: I bet you they would have let me if I promised to bring a bucket of chicken back.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, or maybe a bucket of humans.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_04: A bucket of chicken and a good vampire story to come back.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's the only time I I I really wanted to leave work because of vampires.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
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  unknown: Okay.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so so far we've been talking about vampires as folklore, literature, movies, and television.
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  SPEAKER_05: But there are people living today who actually identify themselves as real vampires.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_05: And before anyone starts looking into coffin coffins and garlic, there aren't people claiming to be immortal, undead creatures.
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  SPEAKER_05: Modern vampire communities generally describe themselves as ordinary humans who experience that they believe there is a need for blood or in some cases another person's energy.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_05: One group has been studied by researchers at the Atlanta Vampire Alliance, which has documented a community that includes people who identify as sanguinarians and psychic or energy vampires.
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  SPEAKER_04: I told you I've met an energy vampire.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm completely convinced that the guy this guy I knew rests in peace.
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  SPEAKER_04: He has since passed away, but he was definitely an energy vampire.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sanguinarians described themselves as people who consume small amounts of blood, usually obtained from willing donors.
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  SPEAKER_05: Energy or psychic vampires, meanwhile, believe they obtain something that they need from other people in this form of energy or presence.
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  SPEAKER_05: These communities generally emphasize consent and distinguish themselves from the supernatural vampires that we see in fiction.
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  SPEAKER_05: And they don't claim to transform into bats or live forever or possess the physical powers of Dracula.
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  SPEAKER_05: What makes this particularly interesting is that the vampire has now come full circle.
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  SPEAKER_05: The original vampire was a creature that humans feared.
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  SPEAKER_05: Dracula turned that creature into a character, and Hollywood turned him into an icon, and the modern fiction turned uh vampires into heroes, lovers, and even ordinary people trying to live beside themselves as humans.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_05: But now we're talking about actual human beings who have adopted vampire as an identity and built communities around it.
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  SPEAKER_05: But that doesn't mean that supernatural vampirism has been proven.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_05: Researchers who have studied these communities generally approach a subject as a matter of identity, culture, and lived experiences rather than evidence that the people literally acquire supernatural life force.
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  SPEAKER_05: People involved can be quite sincere about their experiences.
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  SPEAKER_05: And that's the strangest part of all.
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  SPEAKER_05: The vampire no longer has to exist in the graveyard of a castle or in Hollywood studio, they can exist as an identity carried by a living person.
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  SPEAKER_05: Just a quick note before we move on.
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  SPEAKER_05: This is a subject we have approached with respect for the people involved.
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  SPEAKER_05: Whenever someone's personal beliefs are identity, consuming blood carries a real health risk.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh including exposure to bloodborne infections and injury.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_05: We are uh discussing the culture and the beliefs surrounding the modern vampire communities and not recommended or encouraging anyone to consume blood or attempt to imitate fictional vampires.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_05: Agreed.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_05: But there is one more topic I would like to touch on.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: We touched on uh Baltic vampire law.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_04: The American vampires.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_04: But what about Irish?
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_04: Do they do they go blah blah blah in an Irish accent?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_05: I was gonna say something funny there, it didn't come out with like shit.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_04: Uh let's hear what it would sound like.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_05: Potato, potato, potato!
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_04: I saw a potato the other day, they had little two puncture marks in there that explained the best.
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  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_04: And Irish vampire.
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  SPEAKER_05: When most people hear the word vampire, they probably picture Dracula, an elegant figure in a dark castle, complete with fangs, a cape, and the unfortunate allergy to sunlight.
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  SPEAKER_05: But Ireland has its much older and considerably more stranger tradition concerning the dead returning to prey upon the living.
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  unknown: Uh oh.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_05: Irish folklore contains stories of revenants and nembercons.
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  SPEAKER_05: They do.
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  SPEAKER_05: Restless corpses and supernatural beings that were believed to return from the grave and drain the life from those around them.
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  SPEAKER_05: And unlike the vampire of modern fiction, these creatures weren't necessarily mysterious strangers.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sometimes they were people that have lived and died within the very communities they return they have returned to hunt.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hey Frank, weren't weren't you dead?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_05: I've come to drink your boy.
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  SPEAKER_05: I've come to drink our blood.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_05: I've come to drink your blood, by one of the most famous vampire stories is that of the Derug.
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  SPEAKER_05: The name generally translated as someone along the lines of red bloodsuckers or red thirst.
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  SPEAKER_05: According to the version of the legend, the most commonly told today, she was a beautiful young woman who died after being forced into an unhappy marriage.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_05: After her burial, she supposedly returned from the grave and began to visit men at night feeding on their blood.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_05: The story has taken some modern interpretations that portray her almost as an Irish female counterpart to Dracla, but the folklore surrounding her is considerably less standardized.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_05: Even so, the Derugdu has become one of the most recognizable figures associated with Irish vampire lore.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_05: Then there's the Apparach.
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  SPEAKER_05: His story gets particularly interesting.
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  SPEAKER_05: The Apparach has was supposedly a cruel ruler in Ireland who died and was buried, only to return from his grave that following night.
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  SPEAKER_05: He demanded blood from the people and somehow he he had to be killed.
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  SPEAKER_05: And somehow had to be killed repeatedly because death simply wouldn't keep him down.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_05: Well that's a good that's good.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_04: Nothing got him down.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_04: He's always able to bounce back.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_04: Good for you!
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_05: Eventually, according to the legend, a solution was found.
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  SPEAKER_05: The apparatus was buried to stop trying to kill him.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_05: He was buried upside down with a thorn placed throughout his body and a heavy stone covering his grave.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_05: So he wasn't very strong.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_05: Apparently not.
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  SPEAKER_05: The story recorded as Irish folklore long before the modern vampire became what is recognised today.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_05: Whether Aparatch is spice you.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_05: Whether Aparatch could exactly call a vampire is debated.
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  SPEAKER_05: But the similarities are hard to miss.
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  SPEAKER_05: A dead man returning from the grave, demanding blood and requiring a very unusual measurement to keep him buried.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_05: And perhaps that is why Irish vampire folklore are so creepy.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_05: These stories were necessarily about some distant monster hiding in a foreign castle.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_05: They were about your own dead.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_05: Someone who you knew, someone who were buried in a local church grave Yeah.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: Sure.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_05: A local church graveyard.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_05: Someone who was supposed to stay there but didn't.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_05: Irish folklore has always had the complicated relationship with the boundary between the living and the dead.
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  SPEAKER_05: The stories of revenants and blood drinking corpses fit neatly into this darker side of the tradition.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_05: Long before vampires became caped astrocrats on big screens.
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  SPEAKER_05: Ireland had stories about something much more frightening.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_05: What happens to the dead when they refuse to stay dead.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_05: And what happens when they run out of beer.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_05: I know.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's the biggest problem.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_05: I I don't mean Guinness and
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to be a stereotypic hallback.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: You know, that does sound really good right now.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_04: Good good Guinness.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_04: I would I would share a guy.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_04: I would drink Guinness with you.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_05: Don't share Guinness with Oman.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think vampires drink Guinness?
• 20:56
  unknown: Maybe.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_04: Does that make sharks?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_04: No, because they have carnivores anymore.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_04: So um right before I started reading the book, Dracula, I did a little research.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_04: And Dracula, Bram Stoker, actually was gonna call Dracula Count Vamp Vampire.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think it would have caught on.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_04: Oh well you never know.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_05: It is a weird war to say, vampire, so probably would have been a little bit more than that.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_04: But he he ended up hearing about the um Count Dracula, but he didn't know about the guy's uh history of impaling, you know, fat flat the impaler.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_04: He didn't know that part of the smoke or I think uh Dracula in the book would have been far more darker than what it really is.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_05: So the the book that you're reading is that which which version of the Bram Stoker Dracula.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's the original Dracula.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_05: That's pretty cool.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_04: And it's written in uh diary entries, which I never realized before, which is actually really good.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_04: I'm enjoying it so far.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_05: Well, that is very interesting.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_05: My Brad Stoker, he's ours.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_05: Is he?
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_05: I did not know.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_05: Honestly, I think I wrote something in there earlier on about Dracula.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_05: I think I took it out for research and I forgot to put it back in.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_05: But he was Irish.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_05: Where was he from, real quick?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_04: We can add this part out, but so I kind of uh made the joke that I knew somebody I thought was an energy vampire.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_04: Have you ever and I was joking, but I was actually very true.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think you've ever met anybody that doesn't even have to be an energy vampire, but well, it might have been a vampire of some sort?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_05: Definitely energy vampires.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_05: I definitely believe that.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah?
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: The Dracula vampires or more of the energy vampires.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_04: Collins.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_04: The Colons type.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_05: The columns.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_04: I really do believe there are creatures out there.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_04: And they just get I know.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_04: I was just like even just the most basic conversation at the end, you're just like, you feel like you could just you lost all your energy.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_04: You lost your will to live, and you just don't want to be doing anything for ever again.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_05: I think honestly, and I don't uh fucking RAP, my brother, but Jesus Christ could talk.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_05: And he would talk so much, he'd be like, fuck it out.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_05: Oh your brother?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_05: Recipes.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: He would talk so much exhaust.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think he's an anti-vampire, but like he loved to talk.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so that's that.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_05: So I hope you all have a lovely Halloween.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_05: Catch up on all of those lovely movies about uh vampires that watch Sinners, watch Fright Night, watch uh Ken Watson watch uh uh uh Twilight.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_04: Watch the glitter vampire.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_04: Read the Twilight.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_05: Read the book.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_05: It is a lot better than the movie.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_04: I just can't bring myself to read Twilight.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_04: You don't have to.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not forcing you to.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: But you're telling everybody you gotta read it.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta read it.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_04: That's okay.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_04: You're you're you're saying you gotta read it.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_04: That means you're kind of forcing people to read it.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway, don't you worty your previous thing?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_05: Read whatever you do.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_05: Don't worry your continental sucks.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, and so you're gonna tell everybody now what your vampi what your uh Halloween costume's gonna be?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_04: No?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_04: It's not for you.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_04: You're gonna go with Lady Kadiva?
• 24:14
  unknown: Yes.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, no.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: Uh oh, uh.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_04: He's gonna get he's got this long wig over here in the corner.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_04: I think he's gonna run around naked and looking for a horse.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_04: That's the only thing I know about Lady Kadiva.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_04: She was naked and riding a horse.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know anything else about her.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_05: Look at a horse.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_04: I guess.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um, any good movies or shows or anything?
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, there's two.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_04: There's so many.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_04: Any of the moves that we have talked about.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_04: Ask me what I saw last night.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_04: And what did you see last night?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_04: See how I set him up for him to ask me what I watched last night.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: Ask me what I watched.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_04: Go ahead.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_04: What did you watch, Ken?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_04: I watched.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you for asking, man.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_04: It's really considerate that you ask this question.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_04: I watched the original Poltergeist.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_04: The original.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_04: I watched it last night all the way through.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_04: And I loved every moment.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_04: I hadn't seen it for a little while, but I already knew.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_04: I already knew.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_04: I already knew I liked it.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: But did you know what surprised me the most?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_04: This whole time I thought it was directed by Spielberg.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_04: It was not.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Toby Harrison?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_04: I could have sworn by I I would have bet real money that it was Spielberg, but it's just produced by Spielberg and Lucas.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's probably what it's probably produced.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_04: So a lot of Star Wars references in that movie.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's how you get your movies out there, you know.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: I think I think it was an advertisement for Lucas to sell the the Star Wars toys because they were all over the kids' room.
• 25:38
  unknown: Yeah.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_04: But no! This house is clean.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_04: Carolyn! It's great.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_04: I love the movie.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_05: So it is definitely uh what's a good Halloween movie.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_05: Mush, wash.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's a good Halloween movie to watch.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we have a list.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_05: We have a plethora of movies to watch on Halloween movies.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_04: Uh we still might be a couple short of a plethora.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_05: I I think we're gonna be tied down.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_04: But you can watch or you can listen to our uh just recent episode where um Matt was quizzing me on real paranormal events to the movies they spawned.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that gives you a lot of ideas for uh movies you could be watching tonight on Halloween or this week.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_04: Well, technically last week.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_04: Last week.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, these are movies you should have been watching, and I don't know why you again in your-less I I released the the Halloween one forced before Halloween, then this one before Halloween.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_04: I apologize for my last outburst.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_04: Whether it's before or after Halloween, please consider watching these movies.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_04: And if it's after Halloween, you didn't see it.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what's wrong with it.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_04: Just you know, yeah.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think I'll get Domino's dinner.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_05: I know I had pizza last night.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_05: I'm starving, I need something.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_05: Anyways, so I think that's all we have.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_05: We had such a great we had fun day today.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_04: We did.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_04: We had uh as as many of you know, if you've been listening, we record uh we try to do at least four episodes um every every few weeks.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_05: It will be ordered than four episodes.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_04: We did one, two, three, we did five today, right?
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_04: We don't five.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_04: I mean we had plans for six, but I don't think we're gonna get to six today.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_04: But two of those inter uh two of those shows were actual interviews that were really good.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_05: Legendary Don Schmidt.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_04: Don Schmidt of the of the UFO Roswell.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_04: He's a print I mean he's he's royalty in the in the UFO uh realm, and you can't get any better.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, we appreciated his time.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_05: And honestly, like even though our next guest, who I'll just say a quick hello to again, but Don, I do apologize for the slight internet issues we had.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_05: They're fixed now, unfortunately.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_04: But also to Inspector Roy Teague, who actually got the brunt of some of those uh technical glitches.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_04: We do sincerely apologize.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_04: He stayed up to midnight to talk to us almost midnight.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, he started at 11 and talked to almost midnight with us, and there's a couple times we had to stop and re reconnect with him, and I'm he was very patient.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_04: We appreciate it.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you very much.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_04: We'd love to have you back on and make sure that ahead of time we'll make sure that everything is running smooth.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_05: So whether this comes out on Halloween or after Halloween, it'll definitely be out before Christmas.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_05: I hope you either be before before um Thanksgiving.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_05: But I hope you either have a lovely Halloween or had a lovely Halloween.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 28:38
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• 28:49
  SPEAKER_04: Um, it helps um the algorithm to find to help other people find us to uh you know just grow our audience and so other people can enjoy the content that we've been bringing you.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um if you can't do that, then go out.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_04: First hundred people you meet, you need to tell them.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_04: I'm I I normally say you have to shake them and tell them.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_05: Here's the thing is if we're gonna get to that, don't say people, but walk on Halloween night, you might be able to shake them.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_05: There you go! You might be able to get away with it.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_05: You might be able to dress up like Phantom Journeys podcast and just walk around wailing.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_04: We should phantom journeys.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_04: You should get a big Grim costume and pay somebody just to walk around really really uh no business cards.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_04: I just ask Phantom Journeys podcast on the back of the of the Grim Reaper suit.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_04: That's fair.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_04: And then they have a big banner or a big uh like sandwich.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_05: We could have a skife with like Phantom Journeys on these.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_04: With a UPC code that they could just people can walk up and that's great.
• 29:50
  unknown: I know.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_04: Except that now it's Halloween and next year.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: Next year.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_05: God he can dress in the sand suit, though.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_04: Just put a standard suit over the top of the uh Grim Reaper suit.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there we go.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_05: Shound good.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_04: So uh yeah, so if you could tell everybody, all your friends, family, neighbors, strangers, um everybody tell all your strangers.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_04: Tell everybody about uh the Phantom Journeys podcast, we'd appreciate it.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: We we love uh doing this.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um if you really, really, really like to help us out, please go to our merch uh store, buy a t-shirt, buy a license plate frame, a shot glass, posters, everything you could possibly want.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and all the money that is from there stays with the show.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_04: It doesn't go into our pockets, it goes into the show to buy better equipment, allow us to go to festivals and um do research.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_04: So we need equipment.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_04: We do need some more equipment.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_04: We do.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_05: Anyways.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_04: Ken, have yourself a happy Halloween.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, thank you, thank you.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_04: And if you're a vampire or you know of a vampire or have had supernatural encounters, please let us know.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_04: You can go to Ken at PhantomJourneys.com or Matt at PhantomJourneys.com, or you can go to our website, hit the contact button at the bottom, and it'll get to us.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_04: Um Bob Giranti, yeah.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_04: I'm Bob Giranti.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_04: Who's that?
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_04: Bob.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_04: Bob?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_04: You will ask me on that one.
• 31:28
  unknown: Okay.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_04: Cool.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_04: So we leave with that, Ken.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_04: And we shall see you next week.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_04: Next week, but it's not Halloween.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_04: Oh! If it's next week, don't forget to turn your clocks back an hour.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Jesus.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_04: If this is coming out on Halloween.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's the first weekend in November.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_04: We turn our clocks back an hour.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I'm already dreading getting up in the mornings to drive to walk.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_05: In the darkness.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_05: It's already dark.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I said it's dark when I go to work.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_05: It gets bright when I get to walk.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, no.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_04: It's dark when I get up.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: It gets dark when I go to work, it's dark when I'm at work.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_05: We're in the darkness.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_04: And now we're gonna follow back an hour and it's gonna be dark when I leave for work.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_04: From work.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_05: From work?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: You leave it.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I guess not.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_04: You're right, because I I do leave it around three-ish.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_04: But it does get dark before six.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a lot.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_05: Any houses, guys.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_05: We leave at uh uh I have been mat.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_04: I've been mad.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_04: I've been mad.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, well then I've been makes me Ken!
• 32:31
  unknown: Yes.
• 32:32
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• 32:37
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• 32:41
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• 32:45
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• 32:54
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