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#690 - AZ Chike Talks Tyler, The Creator Collab, Long-Awaited Album, Kendrick Lamar & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: get into the interview yo bootleg cat podcast man we
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  Speaker 1: have got a special guest in here he just announced
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  Speaker 1: his album no rest for the wicked September 18th is
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  Speaker 1: coming the new single with Tyler the Creator drops next
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  Speaker 1: Friday AZ Trike in the building.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on, man?
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  Speaker 4: Welcome, sir.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. It's been a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a long time since you've been here.
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  Speaker 4: The last time you were here was with our good friend, Ruchi. Yeah, 2021.
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  Speaker 4: You guys had an amazing joint album that dropped.
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  Speaker 2: Courtesy of us, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: There was bong smoke, and yeah. Yeah, it was a
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  Speaker 4: good time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When you look back at yourself back then, because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you've matured a lot. I feel like you
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  Speaker 1: were definitely on some, like, you were having a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun back then. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You had a reputation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you've matured quite a bit, though.
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  Speaker 1: When you look back at your old, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: interviews or just, like, think about that era. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Like, how do you reflect on that era of your career?
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  Speaker 2: I guess, like, myself now looking at it, sometimes it'd
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  Speaker 2: be hard to watch. Like, what the fuck was I doing? But, like,
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  Speaker 2: I guess as the artist. Like, the AZ Chike now
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  Speaker 2: looking at the AZ Chike then is like, what the
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  Speaker 2: fuck was I doing? But just me looking at it,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I needed to go through that.
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  Speaker 4: You had to run it.
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  Speaker 2: I had to do what I had to do. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's why I'm able to be so calm now. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I did everything I needed to do. Disrespect, over fun,
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  Speaker 2: being ratchet, getting drunk every day, you name it.
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  Speaker 4: Were you drunk a lot back then?
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: Bottles of tequila?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking nothing of it. I remember I had my
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  Speaker 2: first alcohol withdrawal. We was drinking so much. all 2020, like,
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  Speaker 2: COVID year. COVID, we were drinking so much. I remember
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  Speaker 2: one night, I just didn't drink. I started sweating. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck? It hit me until the
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  Speaker 2: next day. I'm like, damn, I think I just had
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  Speaker 2: alcohol withdrawal. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, like, honestly, COVID is what cracked off the entire, like,
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  Speaker 1: wave of tequila.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, now people were like, I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know what Casamigos was before COVID.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, facts. I remember you couldn't find, like, No, 42.
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  Speaker 4: The 42, the Casas, all that shit, all cracked.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't find it in the industry. I was going deep,
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  Speaker 2: like East L.A. We had a liquor store deep East L.A.
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  Speaker 2: that had everything.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody had the PPP money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I remember people were making records and shooting music videos.
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  Speaker 1: I forget who had the music video at the Bank
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  Speaker 1: of America.
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  Speaker 2: He probably in jail.
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bigger artist.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, for real?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, bigger L.A.
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  Speaker 4: Artist. What?
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  Speaker 2: Who was?
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  Speaker 4: But it was definitely... You had to be in L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember that one. That's burnt.
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  Speaker 2: I had a homie who was from.
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  Speaker 4: AZ who has, he's free. But he used to come
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  Speaker 4: to L.A., bro. And he would cash out the homeless
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  Speaker 4: dudes for all their info. And he had like three
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  Speaker 4: or four addresses.
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  Speaker 2: He know something.
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  Speaker 1: He had some addresses out here. And like, I remember
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  Speaker 1: he would come to L.A. and just book the studio
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  Speaker 1: for like five days. By the way, the studio business
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  Speaker 1: was booming.
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  Speaker 2: Boomish.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody had fucking money for studios.
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  Speaker 2: It made me so upset.
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  Speaker 4: So upset.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't get a session for shit. You got to
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  Speaker 2: think about, I'm coming off the 2019 year I was having.
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  Speaker 2: We were fresh off tour with Shoreline. I was able
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  Speaker 2: to book sessions whenever I want. Shout out my boy, Ivy.
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  Speaker 2: He had a studio downtown. It's been a few studios
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  Speaker 2: like that, though, that I feel like I done turned up.
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  Speaker 2: And then after that, like 2020 came, them motherfuckers was booked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was always, like, because my studio in
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  Speaker 1: North Hollywood, like, we would always have the worst guys
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  Speaker 1: who just were experimenting with music and just, like, setting
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  Speaker 1: money on fire.
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  Speaker 4: And we'd be like, yeah, sure, man. Like, yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 4: give you that.
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  Speaker 2: Is any of them doing good now?
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  Speaker 1: Not a single one.
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  Speaker 2: That's scary.
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  Speaker 4: That's so scary.
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  Speaker 2: There was one dude.
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  Speaker 4: Who was, like, our number one client. He probably spent, like,
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  Speaker 4: $ 25, 000 on our studio and, like, The worst artist. It
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  Speaker 4: was like he was.
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  Speaker 1: Just living out his childhood dreams every night. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if the music ever came out. My homie sold
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  Speaker 1: him hella beats.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's so crazy? You see a lot of
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  Speaker 2: talk about hip-hop and what rap is today. I promise you,
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  Speaker 2: it's the most imitated and replicated music.
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  Speaker 3: Culture.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's always been that way.
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  Speaker 2: I was saying in an interview with Cy Hatter Prince,
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  Speaker 2: and he was putting it in terms of how basketball is.
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  Speaker 2: Some niggas go overseas and play in China.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Some niggas play in the NBA. Some niggas Summer League.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Some niggas just play recreational at the park.
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  Speaker 1: Some people have a hoop hanging from their office door.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And they shoot paper into it and say Kobe.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, right. That's what I'm saying. That's what it
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  Speaker 2: is with rap too, but it's like- Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: It's blurred lines. As soon as I say you rap,
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  Speaker 2: it's like either they think you're absolute shit or you
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  Speaker 2: got to be the biggest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing is you'll meet people through
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  Speaker 1: other shit.
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  Speaker 4: This happens to me all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I might meet somebody through the Mushroom Game, and they
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  Speaker 1: won't tell me they're a rapper for six months.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be like, oh, yo, by the way, Kev, you
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  Speaker 4: know I just put a song out. Would you mind
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  Speaker 4: checking it out? And I'm like, you put a song out?
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck are you doing? You already driving a
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  Speaker 1: fucking S500. Why are you trying to rap?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy, man.
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  Speaker 2: It's not how it was back in the day. Back
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  Speaker 2: in the day, you rapped because you, you feel me?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's more of a fad now.
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  Speaker 1: How cool has it been for you to see, because
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  Speaker 1: obviously you were a part of that early, like, I
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  Speaker 1: would say, SoundCloud LA era, obviously being on tour with Shoreline,
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  Speaker 1: being around those guys. How cool is it to fast
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  Speaker 1: forward and kind of just see gz and phoenix having
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  Speaker 1: a new moment as the group separately facts you have
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  Speaker 1: in your moment um it feels like there's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the guys in that class of la hip-hop
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  Speaker 1: that have kind of stood the test of time and
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  Speaker 1: obviously you're one of them yeah um and like some
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  Speaker 1: of them are obviously the opposite you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah uh i think it's beautiful man i remember i
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  Speaker 2: was i was telling the homies in like 2023 like
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  Speaker 2: this is the the sink or swim stage like it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be, you know, stand the test of time.
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  Speaker 2: Only the strong last. I said this in 2023. I
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  Speaker 2: remember drunk, geeked out of my mind in the club,
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  Speaker 2: huddling the homies. Hey!
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: These better get right right now. But it's beautiful to see, bro.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's important too, right? It can be
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  Speaker 2: motivation for our other peers too. This shit's still going on.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Pulled through for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. For you, can you kind of point to a
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  Speaker 1: moment where you realized it was like, okay, it is
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  Speaker 1: sink or swim time. Was it like something where you
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  Speaker 1: were trying to figure out what the new music was
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  Speaker 1: going to sound like? Maybe you were unsure what the
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  Speaker 1: forecast of the hip hop shit was.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was more personal, the relationships I had
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  Speaker 2: with the homies. After 2022, we didn't separate per se.
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  Speaker 2: But everybody kind of like, you went over there. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't how we was. Like, we was 30 deep every day.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And it's everybody, though. It's not like just entourage. It's
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  Speaker 2: like the niggas. Like, you know what I'm saying? And
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  Speaker 2: then everybody kind of separated. And that's when I kind
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  Speaker 2: of felt it. Like, oh, the noise is low. Right. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's just me now. Like, oh, shit. Like, now I'm
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  Speaker 2: working the trade. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm licensing, I'm selling pieces of my catalog, I'm running
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  Speaker 2: it up, and as I'm doing it, it hit me.
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  Speaker 4: Rap hustling.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, that's my real estate as I'm doing it,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, like, oh, like, it's happening, like, right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching, that's when 310 Baby came out with Soak City,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just watching, and I've seen so many waves
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  Speaker 2: of LA, like, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would say, like, I always said this at
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  Speaker 1: the time, like, you are, like, I would say, like,
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  Speaker 1: the 2020, 2021, even, like, before that everybody felt like
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  Speaker 1: the like la had always had obviously there's exceptions but
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  Speaker 1: la had always had like this division that would always
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: kind of bring street politics into shit for sure but
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  Speaker 1: i feel like you ruchi one take j you know
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  Speaker 1: like that whole era whether it was greedo before then
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  Speaker 1: with shoreline yourself like everybody kind of felt like they
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  Speaker 1: were kind of moving together.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody was doing songs together.
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  Speaker 1: And it felt like, oh shit, this is like a
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  Speaker 1: really dope, refreshing, fun thing happening in LA and it
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  Speaker 2: When you put it like that, for sure. I never
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  Speaker 2: really looked at that or have been able to really
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: think about it like that. But, yeah, we definitely had our, like,
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: movement and moment and time because everybody– And that's why
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: I always got love for them. I got OTX tatted
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: on my legs. I love them dudes, but everybody was
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: on that short line tour.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody you can think of. Even if we might not
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  Speaker 2: have been on it at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: Who all was on it?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody. I'm not kidding. This is 2019 or 18? This
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  Speaker 2: is 2018 and 19.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The Trap-Lanik phase.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Oh, yeah. They don't even call it that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right?
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  Speaker 4: But they did. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The whole studio was named that. I'm like, damn.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out to our boy TK.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. So it was a crazy movement, though, for sure.
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: Was that like a hard tour to be on and
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: like be sober?
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: I don't even think nobody was thinking about being sober.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: That wasn't even like.
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  Speaker 4: I could just imagine everybody being fucked up on that tour.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I done seen the homies geek up, like. We
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: had orange juice, packets of vitamin C, boosted that motherfucker.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yo, don't worry.
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  Speaker 4: We got the vitamin. We got emergency packs.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to be all right.
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  Speaker 2: We had random hotels, 20 deep in a parking lot,
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: big ass tour bus. It was just crazy times, man.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Good times, though. Again, needed that.
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  Speaker 4: I can imagine. I feel like you get through something
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: like that, and you're like, all right, I got all
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  Speaker 4: that shit out of my system.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: What it don't even feel the same when you do
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: it you feel dumb like or old yeah like like
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: hey homie like it's 2026 i got drunk like three
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: days in a row last week and i was like
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: first time i drank in like three months i was
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: like what what the fuck what i'm not i'm 39
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: so i'm like man i'm.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: Cooked like it ain't the same no.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: More yeah sometimes you got your moments where it's like Granted,
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I just lean on the shrooms.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: If I'm trying to get fucked up and have a
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: good time, I'll just shroom out and just be on
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: my own planet.
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  Speaker 2: Shroom's too potent for me. I got to clear the
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: whole day.
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, you got to be at the crib.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Don't nobody text me.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: Don't bother me. See, I'll do that shit at a concert.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: What? I can't do it. I can't do it.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: I was at that Kanye SoFi shit. Just whacked, bro.
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  Speaker 1: In my seat like, this is the greatest shit of
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: all time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm crying. Fucking crying.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good trip.
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  Speaker 4: When Kanye did Ghost Town, I fucking shed a tear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good trip.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, this is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good trip, though. It's not for everybody, but
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: if you can pull it off, I recommend it for sure.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I saw the artwork for the single, You
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: and Tyler Look Like My Mama. Now, this is very
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: directly influenced by one of the greatest comedies of all time,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Napoleon Dynamite.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Whose idea was it to lean into the Napoleon
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: Dynamite theme? Uh.
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  Speaker 2: This coming out Friday, right?
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this will be out.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: The song will already be out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, it was the director's idea. We actually
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: reenacted five movies for the video.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: And we reenacted two of my favorite movies, two of
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Tyler's favorite movies, and one movie we both like in common.
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  Speaker 2: Napoleon Dynamite just ended up being one of them. So
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: we dressed and did the whole shit for all five movies. Napoleon,
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Men in Black. Paid in Full, Sinners, and Napoleon. Dead President.
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  Speaker 3: Dead President.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we just reenacted all of them. So that's how
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: it came up. But that was the best picture to me.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: Which movies did you pick specifically?
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: My favorite movies was Dead President.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Great movie.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: My movie was Dead President. Dead President. I think we
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: both picked on Peyton Full, but my shit was Dead Presidents. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: We both had centers. I think mine was Peyton Full
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: and Dead Presidents. His was Napoleon and Men in Black,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: and then we both came together.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Men in Black's got to be crazy. Y'all get a
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: pug for that shit?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: A what?
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: A pug. Nah, nah.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: We didn't do that scene. We did the scene where he,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: at the end, when they shoot the ship out the shot,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: the cockroach and all that.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: I got to watch this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This feels
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: like a big budget video. It is.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: I told the lady, I said, don't embarrass me in
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: front of Tyler. Cough that money up.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: You have taken a lot of time with putting out
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: your first major label release in terms of an album. Obviously,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you put out a lot of singles.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: What was it for you like that was so important
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: for you to just kind of be meticulous with the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: album making process and not because because obviously you know
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: you had a great moment being on GNX and then
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: getting signed and you know you did a bunch of
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: festivals and a lot of people would have just dropped
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying yeah what why was it
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: important for you to take your time.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Uh I think it was just by natural design man
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I think um you know I think I just was
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: aligned in the universe at the best interest for me.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: As far as that, it just was my way of
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: making history. The album is stacked. You understand what I'm saying?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: And when you have so many big names or big
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: cooks in the kitchen, you got to let them cook.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: And no matter how long it take, it's just, you know...
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: And every time I talk to T or Dot and
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: them about it, they never like... They're like, don't rush it.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: When it's done, it's done.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: It could have... Obviously, don't overly take long. But, nigga...
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: you know, play the chords. So that's what it was,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: and it just ended up being done now. And now,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: even now, we set shit in play for certain people
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: around us to, even us, to feel pressure, like, no,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: this has to come out.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Niggas forget after, shit, September is holiday season, shit.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, nah, the music industry, like, there's a cutoff point
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: where it's hard to get a lot of shit done, and.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: It's usually, like, November.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Unless you bigger than life.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you're like fucking The Weeknd.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Unless you're like Kendrick Lamar.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Or Kendrick Lamar dropped GNX in November. The week of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: thanks fucking give it. By the way, I was in
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: fucking Bangkok.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: When GNX dropped, we were leaving rolling loud and I
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: was just like, oh my God!
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So unless you, you feel me?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it worked out for the better. I wouldn't
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: change anything. So that's really what it was. It was
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: just so many big cooks. And then, you know, Later on,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I would get hit up by my higher-ups, per se,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: and they're just like, hey, we need to go sit
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: down and go over this album. I'm not going to
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: tell them no.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: So that's what it was.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: How much of the music do you, if you're working
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: on some shit, obviously not everybody's got a big homie
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like Kendrick and Tyler to get feedback from.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. How often are you sending them shit just to
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: check out?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Not often. I've never been that type of dude. I'll
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: send them certain stuff that they know about already, but
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I won't send them nothing I did on my own.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: If they make it to the album or something that
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: they just so happen to get to hear, then yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: But other than that, hell no. I've never really been
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the type. I came up a lot doing music by myself, recording,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: engineering myself. I never really needed nobody to tell me
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: this was hard. Because you might not give me even
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the reaction I'm looking for. You might just spoil this
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: shit for me. Now I need you to get the
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: fuck out this studio room. You know what I'm saying?
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And I'm willing to take that risk.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Even if the shit, God forbid, I never had that happen,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: but even if it did come out and it was trash,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to take that last. I'm like, okay, cool.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: That's straight.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Do you have any of the, I guess, LA class
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you're associated with on this new album?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think when I think of Shaq,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I think of Kalen. I think of Roach.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys that, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I think of Mike Sherman. I think of Mike Sherman
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: from the Bay.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: What class? I think it's like a new class, if
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: you ask me. I don't think it's nothing I can
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: put myself in.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Who's the new class of L.A. you think that's impressed you?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I like Grinch Walk. That's my boy. i like grinch
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: i'm not uh i like i ain't gonna lie uh
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: what's his name beezy too janky he hard too they
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: they they doing their thing i fuck with that shit
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: uh dave dollar doing her thing too yeah yeah yeah
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: it's a i'll be watching i'll be listening so yeah
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: that class, they going crazy for sure.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Talk to me about, like, obviously you've beat the GNX
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: talk into the wall in every interview you've done in the.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Last two years.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But just how crazy is it to be on, like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people who are on GNX, but, like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Peekaboo was, like, the record that, like, Right now, if
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you look at the radio chart, it is, like, one
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: of the biggest recurrence in the country. Like, it's just, like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you just, it's like a song, if you turn the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: radio on, you can't escape it. That has to just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: kind of be, like, does it ever get old hearing yourself, like.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: On Real 92.3, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Or whatever city you're in, like, you're going to hear
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: the record.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Fuck no. I think I got through that early. But, nah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: it don't get old. I still, you know, it's just
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: damn near, like, performing, like. You cannot hit the stage
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and not perform that unless they ain't pay you enough.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: But other than that, you're going to perform. Like, I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: have to perform Burn River again at all. Like, that's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: just my baby right there. Like, you know what I'm saying? So,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: hell no. Hell no. If anything, those are good problems
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to have.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: For sure, yeah. 100%, man.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: What about a.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Record like Game Time that comes out and feels like
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it's a fucking sink wet dream?
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, oh, this is going to be on 2K.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: This shit's going to be on fucking NCAA fucking football.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. When you made that record, did you kind of
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: be like, yo, this song needs a sports center joint?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That was... That was one of those records, like, my
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: team had to, like, convince me. Like, Game Time was
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: hard to me, but I wasn't thinking about it as
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a single. Right. It was hard.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: They're like, no, we got to put this out.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And, you know, it did what it was supposed to do.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Madden 2K, like you said. So, yeah. I don't know.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: That was just my natural design. That was my first, like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: real sync record.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: What was the craziest place you heard that song, or, like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that that song made it in terms of the sync side?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Where you were just like, oh, this is fucking crazy.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It'll probably just be the video games.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: The Madden and the 2K. Maybe because I just grew
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: up on that shit. I think like other, they only
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: hit the game. Oh, no, I'm lying. Probably, what the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: fuck is that show called? Damn, man, I forgot.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Euphoria. Oh, it was on Euphoria?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like light in the back.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, I watched the first episode of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the new season, and I was like, just feels like
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a different, like.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Don't even feel like euphoria. It feels like it's like
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: a spinoff where this bitch is like running drugs. You
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: I gotta finish it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: You could tell like this is the end.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: No, it's a wrap.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: They was ready to kill.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: The show off. Everybody, unfortunately, like important people from the
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: show passed away in real life.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It's really good though. I can't lie. It's really good.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It's really good. I ain't gonna lie. They got like
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the strippers in there. I know a few of them
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: in real life, so.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: It was good to support.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Some L.A.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Strippers made the cut, huh?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good to support the homegirls.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: What club?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Sam's?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: It's only, what, three clubs? I don't know why you
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: ask that. We ain't Atlanta. We only got Sam's, Deja Vu's.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: cheetahs sometimes they get shut down reopened so fucking much
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: i heard.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: That there's some spots in orange county and like the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: city of industry that are solid.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: The joint in um hollywood straight to body shop that's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: straight don't give me no.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: No no i feel like i have you i've only
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: driven by body shop i've never been i've never been
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like brave enough to go into the spot that looks
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: like it's cool i feel like the girls would be
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in there dancing to nickelback just by the.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Outside no no it's it's cool it's cool it's some
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: it's some some hip-hop shit so yeah i mean it's good.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I miss uh i miss crazy girls which was right
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: what like right across from.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: The berries that was the spot definitely next to the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: berries with the lobster yeah what an era berries was
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: huh yeah real good.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Are we ever gonna retire bossa nova here as like
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the go-to like studio food I.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Don't think we are. I think the bitches love Bossa Nova.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: That shit ain't going nowhere.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Everybody in LA, they come here. I don't care what
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: session I'm in. Like, y'all order Bossa Nova.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Bossa Nova's had a fucking run that
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: has outlasted COVID.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they still here. They still here. The one downtown,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: we going crazy.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Someone got smoked at that one. For real?
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: See? But that's the thing.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Bossa Nova's the spot that, like, the one in Hollywood, specifically.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: You really just can't just pull up for real if
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you got some smoke because you don't know who you're
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: going to run into over there.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I only mentioned that one like twice, though. The other
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: one they shut down, that was the best bossing over
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: ever next to the Louis Bottega, Bottega Louis joint.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: That one right there where you can sit outside and eat,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: they closed it down. That was the best one, 2020.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: No Rest for the Wicked, September 18th. Can you break
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: down the album.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Cover and the significance?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. People is crazy. One nigga said the cover looked paused.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I said, damn. That's OD. That's my grandma. That's my grandma, bro.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: But she was just... She's just the epitome of.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Someone said the cover looked paused.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It looked paused. Look, so.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I picked that picture because she fits the name of that, right?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: No Rest for the Wicked is basically... Bad shit is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: always going to happen. And it's up to you how
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you distribute your energy. And it was a lot of
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: bad shit happening for her at that time. But in
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: that picture, you can't tell. Her head tilted back. She
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: got the blood in her hand. But she was on
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: hard drugs. Her daughter, my mother, attended to that. My
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: mother sold hard drugs. We grew up in the crack era.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: It was either right before... It was either right before...
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: or during when she found out she had breast cancer.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: And that's why I chose that one again. She got
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the pink shirt on. It just, that picture was yelling
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: at me. Like, you know what I'm saying? And, um,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: through all the bad shit, she never stopped loving us though.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying? And I would know that
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: because shit, my mama would leave me with her to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: babysit all the time. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: But she was still looking out for my mama, looking
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: out for me and my uncle, which is probably her
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: favorite person on this earth. You get what I'm saying? So,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I think she just fit the name perfectly. It didn't
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: have to be all artsy and no rest for the wicked,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: devils and claws and angels. It don't need to be
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: all that. You know what I'm saying? It was just
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a representation. And now my grandma is immortal. She get
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: to live through the music forever. I texted my uncle
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the other day and I told him she would lose
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: her mind on how famous her face is going to be.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? He's like, yeah, she probably
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: would cry. Her birthday was Sunday and I posted the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: cover Monday. You know what I'm saying? So it holds
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: special value, but I'm not going to do all that
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: fucking explaining on the internet. You know what I'm saying?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: So, yeah. Yeah, no. That had to be like, yo, fam,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: it's my grandma. Why are you pausing this shit?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Do you think that's me?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I said, damn, Granny was on that stuff. She looked skinny.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: You might think it was a dude with a little shirt.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, they got my grandma fucked up. That
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: is so funny. But it's good to let people speculate
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and have fun and have their think pieces on. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: don't take it personally.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Tell me for you, man, is there anything that you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: were inspired by musically for this project?
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Because I just talked to somebody.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: My boy said he just was diving into Prince and
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a bunch of old shit while he was recording his album.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Was there any.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Musical inspiration that happened during this process that you could
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: kind of pull from?
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  Speaker 2: A lot did. In the beginning, it wasn't random. It
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: was just where I was. But in the beginning, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: didn't have a clear intention. Just free ball and whatever,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: stick sticks. But as the album went through its multiple forms, yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: it did. More so now. Now that I'm done with
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: the album, I'm deep diving. into other shit. Roy Ayers
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and shit like that. Just real jazzy shit. It resets
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the nervous system for sure. But as I'm doing that album,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I'd probably say this last December going into January.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was in there with some folks, and they were
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: just like, go listen to Get Rich or Die Trying.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Go listen to, what's the DMX album?
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  Speaker 4: It's Dark and Hell is Hot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tripping. I'm falling. I can't get up.
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  Speaker 4: Flesh of my flesh, blood of my blood slipping.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Go listen to that. Track 11. Yeah, go listen to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Snoop debut. I have some homework to do, so those
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: definitely played a big part in the vulnerable records on
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the album, giving me confidence.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We're too hit when I'm talking about my life.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: So new record with Tyler.
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  Speaker 4: It's out. Video. Is the video out? The video dropped
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  Speaker 4: Friday too?
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  Speaker 2: Video and song dropped Friday. Yeah, man. We trying to
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  Speaker 2: get video of the year with this one.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't going to lie. I love it, man.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'll tell you what. We're going to play
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to have you introduce it, man. Introduce
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  Speaker 1: the new record.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, man. What's the deal? There's AZ Trike right here,
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  Speaker 2: and we finna get into that look like my mama
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  Speaker 2: featuring Tyler, the creator. Boom.
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