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Dawg Days · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner podcast along with my
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  partners, Brian Siegler, Jonathan Talley, and tonight our
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  special guest from 247 Hokies. Mate Sis, this episode is
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  pharmacy. I got the old, the old tag
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  Counts Family Pharmacy, your friendly neighborhood pharmacy
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  three O 1 S Main St. in Blacksburg, VA and like I said
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  already matasys back in the house.
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  He does not need an introduction, he's part of the
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  family. BT scoop mate.
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  Long time no talk man. How have you been, dude?
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  I'm good. I mean, we, I know we were
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  talking a little bit before we went live here, but it's great
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  to be back. I mean, at this point it's like
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  it's Thanksgiving, it's Christmas and then it's our our
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  yearly catch up. So I know we've done it a bunch
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  of times in the past, but truly an honor to be here and I love
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  chopping it up with you guys. Yeah, man, love to have you all
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  back. I mean, obviously we usually
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  have you on almost 2 * a year. We usually get something in the
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  spring, something just before the, you know, season gets fall
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  camp, gets cranked back up. We we missed the first go round.
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  Everybody was busy doing some different stuff.
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  But hey, we got you back. Now we're talking recruiting,
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  we're talking Hokies. Love that you're back, Mattei.
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  Absolutely. Mattei sis back in the house, my
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  season preview relies on what this man has to say tonight.
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  So you're either going to get angry tally or optimistic
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  talent. It relies on Mattei y'all so.
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  No pressure? No.
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  Pressure messages. Fill it up in the chat.
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  Let him know which tally you want to see because it relies on
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  him. I'll.
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  Tell you, would you would you like to comment on that?
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  Maybe somewhere in the middle, we'll see.
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  I want to see optimistic tally though.
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  I think everybody wants to see optimistic Tally, but sometimes
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  pissed off Tally's fun too. Tally.
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  Oh my God. Yeah.
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  Tally brings out like because yeah, we we all have different
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  levels, right? Like everybody who's watched
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  this program will tell you you're you've seen it, you've
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  seen us happy, you've seen us angry.
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  I feel like Tally helps tip me and Brian.
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  Like what if Tally's not feeling good?
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  Eventually we're not going to be feeling.
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  If Tally's feeling good, we're eventually going to be.
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  Tally is sort of the he is the he is the head of the roller
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  coaster of our emotions on this. The over analyzation king once
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  that once that roller coaster start going the wrong way, you
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  better buckle up. We can't get it on the right
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  track. It's.
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  A lot of fun. Well, y'all matey here tonight.
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  We we got a lot to know because a, we didn't get to talk earlier
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  in the year, but we've got a lot of different stuff we want to
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  talk about and we're going to lead off tonight.
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  And just but Tay in general kind of Hokies recruiting just not
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  running as hot as last year and we know it's not in a vacuum.
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  So we wanted to kind of hit on a few things and basically how you
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  feel they're impacting not only this year's recruiting, but
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  potential future recruiting. I know Tally, I'm going to let
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  you kick it off because obviously, you know, we'll let
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  you vent a little bit. Yeah.
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  So you know, just go ahead and asking the question.
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  I know you're pretty close to Virginia Tech recruiting and the
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  program. So first thing I want to say is,
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  you know, I was definitely not happy with how the season went.
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  I don't think too many people were.
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  But from where you're standing and what you seen results of
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  2024, do you think that potentially throws a kink on
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  Brent Prize job security? I mean, yeah, in terms of job
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  security, I mean, I I feel like we've been debating it all
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  offseason on Twitter. There's so much promise Last
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  year. I can't remember a time that,
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  you know, maybe goes back 10 years when people had pre season
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  expectations of 10 plus wins and then, you know, to make it out
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  and only have 6. Like with the talent that they
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  brought back. There was so much that went into
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  it, so many people that were excited.
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  Talia, I know I saw you last year down in Nashville, but it's
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  like, so going from that game with all the promise and hope,
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  the entire stadium, week one at Vanderbilt, everyone's in there
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  already looking past Vanderbilt. And then you look, you know, at
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  the end of the year, it's like, what happened?
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  What, what did we all just go through?
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  And I think a lot of people are still feeling the effects of
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  that. And, you know, definitely from,
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  you know, prize perspective, he's got to figure out a way to
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  win now. And I think he feels that with
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  Babcock feels that everyone feels that.
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  I mean, they invested so much into football.
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  I think we saw the effects of what happened to men's
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  basketball as well. Like this has ripple effects.
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  So definitely there is some job security questions.
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  I mean, every graphic that comes out in in the offseason, we've
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  seen Brent Prize name on it. But at the same time, I think,
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  you know, whether it's a good year, whether it's a bad year,
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  average year, like they're going to focus on what's next.
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  And you know, there's a lot that has happened from last year's
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  team to the team we're about to see on the football field.
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  Like a lot has gone into it, a lot of changes, coordinators,
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  support staff, I mean, players galore.
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  I mean, this was the most active portal in in history and
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  especially for Virginia Tech. So definitely a lot of lessons
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  learned and heading into 2025. I mean, this is this is, you
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  know, put up or shut up year. Yeah, I'm saying this.
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  I'm gonna say this for a minute, Curtis.
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  Oh, go ahead. Before you go, I'm.
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  Saying on I'm saying on 247, it was snapshot that came through a
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  thumbnail, it said, talking about the changes in the new
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  faces. 31 scholarship departures, 30 transfer
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  editions, 19 high school signees, nearly 60 new faces in
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  2025. Yep.
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  So I'm just saying, I wanted to throw that out.
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  I just want to throw that out there.
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  Let me ask this, Matei, what about from the recruiting
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  perspective? Because, you know, you kind of
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  went in depth there about how it was ripple effects across
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  everywhere. Is is that season affecting what
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  we're seeing with, you know, not that last year just felt like
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  every time we turned around, it was a guy we wanted jumping in
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  the boat. Like, bam, we got it.
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  Yes, the end of that kid beat beat Ohio State for that kid.
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  Beat somebody for that kid. Is is the murmurs around the
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  business, like we don't know what's going to happen there,
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  therefore that momentum and that steam slows down.
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  You know, it's interesting because I think I'm not going to
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  deny that it doesn't have any impact.
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  I mean, I'm thinking about all the classes, all the cycles that
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  I've covered. And it's like towards the
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  beginning, that was always a big concern with everyone.
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  When is Beamer going to step down?
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  Then it was Fuente. Is he, you know, is he going to
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  stay here for the long haul? Is he leaving?
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  And now it's like we're in the new era where it's kind of faded
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  into the background a little bit.
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  Like we're talking about all the additions that Virginia Tech
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  just had to this roster after what happened last year.
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  I mean, when we saw most of these portal guys come in, I
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  don't think they had named a defensive coordinator, let alone
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  an offensive coordinator. And it was just commits left and
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  right and you're kind of wondering what's going on, who's
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  pulling the strings here? But you know, those players
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  specifically, I mean, I get it from a portal perspective, a lot
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  of these guys are jumping up to a better situation and makes
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  sense no matter who the coordinator is going to be.
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  But then when you look at it from a high school level, I
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  think there's so many things that change there.
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  I think they've done well. I think the staff has always
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  done well given their circumstances, whether it's, you
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  know, these guys can sell anything, whether it's we need
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  you to come here because we need to change the perception around
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  here or something. Like, yeah, last season was a
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  disaster, but we had five guys drafted, 11 more guys signed on
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  to a team. Yeah, it was a disaster of a
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  season, but we're at least getting guys to the pros.
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  Do you want to be a part of that?
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  So no matter how you spin it, there's always a way around it.
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  But I definitely think there is at least a slight impact of
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  recruits saying, OK, what is this going to look like in the
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  long haul? Yeah.
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  I mean, I know with with NIL the transfer portal, you're not
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  seeing guys stick around like a full four years even even in,
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  you know, favorable conditions, right.
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  So sometimes new opportunities open up, they want to take
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  advantage of that and they move on.
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  But you know, when you look at the way the expectations versus
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  the, the outcome worked last year, it definitely seems like,
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  you know, it's hard to tell whether it was, did this class
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  start a little slower because of the way the season played out?
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  Did it start a little slower because you had coordinators
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  that were fired as a result of that?
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  And now you're having to re establish some of those
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  relationships that you took a year building, you know, at the
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  start of that, that class cycle now into, you know, the time of
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  year where you start seeing some commits come through.
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  It's really hard to say. And you know, let's talk about
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  that, that NIL a little bit. So, you know, we've got
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  settlement details finally came out.
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  There's been some kind of challenges to certain language
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  throughout the process. How is this whole NIL house
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  settlement and stuff like that playing into how the the Hokies
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  have kind of set up their recruiting board this year?
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  Yeah, it's been super interesting.
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  And I mean, this is something I've, you know, remain like I
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  was watching it from the very beginning.
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  I'm sure most of us were, but it was delayed.
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  Delayed finally came through. I think it's been interesting
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  because I haven't seen in terms of Virginia Tech and how they
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  operate, at least from a football perspective.
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  I haven't seen like a huge dramatic change yet in terms of
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  their philosophy, how they're approaching, whether it's the
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  portal, high school recruiting or guys on their current roster.
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  Like we've kind of seen the trend of smaller high school
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  recruiting classes getting guys of need in the portal.
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  And for the most part, like we've seen Virginia Tech retain
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  who they needed to retain, You know, whether that's their
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  quarterbacks this offseason. Last year was pretty much
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  everyone it it has, I think the biggest impact and we've kind of
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  seen it hit high school recruiting this year is that I
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  think there's a lot of short term effects from it that these
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  big collectives kind of offloading a lot.
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  And maybe we see more movement in schools that we're not
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  typically seeing that from, you know, immediately, like Texas
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  Tech comes to mind coming out of nowhere.
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  There's plenty of other examples like that.
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  But I think we're kind of seeing right now from a high school
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  perspective at least, we're seeing a lot of inflation.
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  I think we see more guys than ever right now committed to
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  schools. I think the the available player
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  pool's a bit smaller than it has been in years past.
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  But yeah, overall, I think, you know, it helped a little bit in
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  terms of Virginia Tech landing some of these portal guys with
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  the expectation that this was going to happen.
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  But then in terms of recruiting, I think there's some other
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  benefactors across the country. Yeah, and that's the thing
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  about, you know, the deal and everything, because now
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  everything's scrutinized, right? I mean, there's already been
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  reports of deals like, Nope, deals not good.
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  Yep, deals not good. This.
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  And you know, in some, in some situations that's going to hurt.
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  But eventually I think people will find their way to work
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  around it. And if the hoagies are having
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  any issues, will we hear about it?
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  Maybe, maybe not. I think they've got enough
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  individuals inside the state of Virginia that have businesses
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  that they can easily just say get that kid $100,000, let them
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  come be a speaker for your business and what what can you
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  say their business, they want to pay a kid $100,000 to come speak
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  whatever is going to work. But let me flip back because
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  we've mentioned the portal a couple times.
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  I want to know the effects that you think you're having or
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  having the portal, the way it's working out or it's having on
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  high school recruiting. Because the way you kind of got
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  to look at it, if a kid thinks I'm going to come in and play
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  day one, boom, boom, boom portal, like that's my position.
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  Like, how can that be negative, positive in high school
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  recruiting? And I know some people are
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  saying, yeah, but those guys are like way down the line.
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  And it's like it happens a lot quicker than you think.
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  And then you also have people who are recruiting to sophomore
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  in June. We we think about the recruit
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  last year, Curtis Perry. I know he didn't last.
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  You made TC early, mad, whatever.
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  I'd love to hear the back story on that.
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  Maybe that's JCPKS One night, give him about 10 beers in,
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  he'll give us the whole story. But when you see that, it's
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  like, well, I'm a defensive lineman and they just got that
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  kid in the portal. Is that my spot?
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  How much do you think that is in the minds of high school kids
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  now looking at how teams are recruiting to the portal?
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  I think it's definitely in the minds of a lot of high school
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  kids and I, I think it varies per program because not only are
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  you looking at guys now like if you go to the 24/7 database and
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  you're just sorting based on, you know, five stars, 4 stars,
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  three stars, there is a different story for every kid.
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  There are some kids that their financial situation, they're
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  going to go with the highest bidder no matter what.
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  Doesn't matter what your program provides.
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  There are some three stars the same way there are also some
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  four stars that, you know, believe in the vision, maybe are
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  a little well off. Whatever their situation is,
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  like they have it within them that they want to go to a place
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  where they trust the coaches to develop them and they know it'll
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  pay off down the road. And I think when you look at a
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  school like Virginia Tech, what they're at least trying to do is
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  avoid those guys that are just in it for the benefits, guys
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  that may take, you know, some money right away, but they don't
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  see them for the long haul. Guys that are flip flopping
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  through the recruitments. You know, there there are even
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  some like we already saw some guys that said, I'm committed to
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  Virginia Tech, but I want to take an official visit
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  elsewhere. And, you know, I want to see
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  what else is out there. And Virginia Tech has been like,
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  you should go see what what else is out there, but then don't be
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  committed to Virginia Tech. And I think that's kind of their
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  stance on that. But in general, with the portal
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  like it, it also boils back to what we started talking about in
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  the beginning of Brent Pryde being on hot seat.
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  Like this is a team that's in win now mode.
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  They needed to bring all those guys from the portal.
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  They need to win now. So that is the priority.
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  I mean, obviously high school recruiting is priority as well,
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  but you want guys that are going to stick around and stay there.
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  If OK, we believe that next season's going to be a great
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  year. All those guys they brought in
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  are going to leave. We're going to be developed and
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  then we're going to pick up the torch and play for a winning
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  football team. That's kind of the formula.
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  Yeah. I mean, I know we're dealing
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  with a lot of different things here.
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  You know, you've got the outcome of last year, we got new
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  coordinators, you got, you know, new information with NIL and,
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  and new rules and, you know, navigating all of that.
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  And then obviously, you know, the way the portal in high
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  school recruiting are kind of, you know, trading places in
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  terms of importance, or at least, you know, starting to
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  match each other in terms of importance in a given year.
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  Looking at the 26th class, kind of let's talk about the biggest
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  impact. Is it that hot seat
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  implications? Is it the shift in recruiting
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  for focus, is it the new coordinators, or is it some of
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  those organizational or financial factors that are part
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  of the NIL landscape? Yeah.
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  I mean, if I had to rank them, I would definitely say landscape
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  is #1 impact right now. Just again, I think it's very
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  short term. I know Curtis kind of talked
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  about it, but I think there are some programs that maybe are
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  putting things out there a little Willy nilly and they
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  don't know the ramifications of it.
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  They're just hopeful to get top talent and figure it out later.
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  Second biggest impact I would say is the coordinators.
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  Like if you think about it for Sefke's coming into Virginia
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  Tech, he has never seen any of these prospects before.
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  He was in pro systems evaluating pro guys going through, you
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  know, professional. Techniques and.
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  Yeah, exactly. So now you pluck him out of
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  Arizona, he's coming all the way across the country and he is not
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  only getting to know these guys, like half of them he's probably
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  seeing for the first time when they come to campus.
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  But now he's got to evaluate them on a different level and
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  build the relationship. At the same time, I think
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  they've gotten some guys defensively, they've done some
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  work there and obviously it helps that you it's not just
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  him, right, Like there are other people, but in terms of.
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  And you know, it's the same thing with Montgomery.
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  I think he's more familiar with it, but he's still going through
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  it in terms of Virginia Tech's pool for the first time.
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  There's a lot of catch up there. And I think a big thing that
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  we're seeing right now, like I think about July 4th every year,
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  I mean, it's day after day, multiple commitments a day for
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  Virginia Tech. They try to get 80% of their
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  class locked up July 4th every year.
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  This year is different. This year there's only nine guys
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  in the boat as of right now. And these coordinators, while
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  they they probably could have that number right now at 1617, I
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  think that their approach is we need to know these guys and we
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  need to see these guys. We need to see them for their
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  senior season. We want to see tape.
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  We want to go, you know, by weeks, whatever midweek, see
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  these guys play football, live football, and I think that's a
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  big part of it right now. So I definitely think
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  coordinators, big part of the whole recruiting equation.
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  And then again, like, I don't want to diminish the hot seat,
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  but I just think the other two just far outweigh it right now.
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  Yep, I'm going to, I'm going to throw something in here, Matei.
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  Speak to it what you can if you know, but obviously just a few
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  weeks ago, Jayden Anderson, the wide receiver out of Green Run
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  went into the portal. Do you know what happened?
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  Do you have any sort of insight that you can give us or that
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  you're? Don't get fired.
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  Don't get. In trouble?
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  But if you can. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say too much on the situation.
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  Obviously a lot of respect for for Jay.
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  I think he's a great football player.
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  I think everyone's very excited for him.
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  I just think that, you know, sometimes there's a transition
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  element from high school to college and some things get lost
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  in translation. And I'll, I'll kind of just
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  leave it at that. But you know, I obviously I
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  think it's tough because not a lot of people can can really
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  talk about it. But at the end of the day, you
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  just kind of wish him well because it's, you know, a guy
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  that wanted to live out his dream at Virginia Tech.
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  And then, you know, things happen, obviously.
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  But at the end of the day, it's it's best for both parties to
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  kind of move on and wish, wish each other.
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  Well. There you go.
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  There's also another one in here and we're going to kind of
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  chuckle about this, but Peyton Falzone, he already I didn't
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  know he decommitted from Penn State.
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  Like, I mean, how tough is that just for you reporting on this
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  and like, OK, he commits to us. Oh, that's great.
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  He goes Penn say I make sense pencil and now he's Auburn.
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  Which Auburn? From everything I'm seeing tally
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  you can confirm this. Auburn's kind of like shit show
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  right now. Freeze is he's he's something
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  else, man. But I know one thing.
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  You better do something. You better do something because
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  I ain't going to play with him down there too long.
• 23:16
  But. How does that go A.
• 23:19
  Lot of people already. But but the humatee, how does
• 23:23
  that even go? Like researching a kid, getting
• 23:26
  to know, and then all of a sudden it's like it's the
• 23:29
  freaking stock market. Like where is this kid going
• 23:31
  today? Yeah, I mean, it, it happens a
• 23:33
  lot. It's, I wouldn't say it's at the
• 23:37
  same level, but you guys remember Demetrius Davis?
• 23:45
  Hold off, Hey. Mass mass.
• 23:46
  They already beat you too. I heard Auburn and all of a
• 23:49
  sudden my mind went there straight away.
• 23:52
  I mean, it happens a lot, right? Like the at the end of the day,
• 23:56
  these guys are 161718 years old and all of a sudden, you know,
• 24:02
  in the modern era, you're talking about life changing
• 24:04
  money places. And, you know, I'm not quite
• 24:07
  sure what the situation was at Penn State because when he was
• 24:11
  committed to Virginia Tech, that was always the school to watch.
• 24:15
  There was no mention of Auburn at that at that time.
• 24:18
  And, you know, from there, it was kind of a clean cut.
• 24:22
  I, I know Virginia Tech still continue to recruit him here and
• 24:25
  there, but at that point, you know, I didn't follow as much.
• 24:29
  So I was a bit surprised to see him flip again to Auburn again,
• 24:35
  I don't know what the situation there is with Penn State.
• 24:37
  If they told him, you know, go ahead and, and, and find a
• 24:41
  situation. But it I mean, this happens
• 24:45
  everywhere. He he's not alone in that.
• 24:47
  I'll tell you, I'll say this, and this is from somebody who
• 24:50
  don't know shit, this is just from somebody who I ain't going
• 24:53
  to lose my job. Yeah, I ain't going to lose my
• 24:55
  job for talking. Nowadays, these kids, the
• 25:00
  recruiting aspect of stuff is what can I get?
• 25:05
  Not all the time, but some kids is what can you offer me?
• 25:09
  So even if they commit to a school, they'll go back to a
• 25:11
  coach and say, well, such and such card and offer me this and
• 25:16
  such and such may have caught and offered you that.
• 25:18
  But what's getting lost in translation a lot with kids is
• 25:22
  you have to be in the right position for you to produce.
• 25:26
  Like my kid is a baseball player, right?
• 25:29
  And travel ball is ridiculous. So you get so many coaches
• 25:34
  that'll you'll be at a tournament and they see you play
• 25:37
  and they'll come. Hey man, y'all should come over
• 25:39
  here to this program and if my kid comes and plays on that
• 25:42
  team, he might not like them kids, he might not like the
• 25:44
  colors, he may not feel the same when he's on the field.
• 25:48
  Like the kids that he played with right now, he's played with
• 25:50
  them for probably 5 or 6 years. They're comfortable with each
• 25:53
  other. If he strikes out three times,
• 25:55
  it's not really going to have nobody to rag him, you know what
• 25:57
  I'm saying? But you go to another team and
• 26:00
  you strike out once, you may have somebody on the bench that
• 26:02
  goes, hey, you suck. So I'll take that back to take
• 26:07
  that back to like where we are. We're talking football, right?
• 26:10
  So sometimes you can have a team that's really strong, a program
• 26:13
  that's strong, or even a recruiting class that's strong
• 26:16
  and hold together. A lot of Times Now these kids
• 26:19
  aren't giving themselves the opportunity to even do that.
• 26:21
  They're just going with the next best thing.
• 26:24
  You know, speaking on the Jaden Anderson situation, which I
• 26:28
  can't speak on it, I don't know it.
• 26:30
  I don't know what happened. I'm just saying from the outside
• 26:33
  looking in as a grown man, if you start a job and you're on
• 26:37
  that job 7-8 days and then you leave that job or you get fired,
• 26:43
  what something happened that they didn't like or something
• 26:46
  happened that you didn't like? So we can throw all these
• 26:49
  theories around and we can ask the questions back as to what
• 26:52
  happened. Something happened on one end
• 26:55
  that somebody didn't like or something happened on the other
• 26:57
  end that somebody didn't like or maybe both ends.
• 26:59
  But you can kind of take that and use that as you will because
• 27:03
  like I said, I don't know the kid or his family.
• 27:05
  Definitely wish him well, very talented kid.
• 27:07
  But us as fans, like we throw so many theories out.
• 27:12
  I heard this so I know this and we don't we don't know nothing.
• 27:16
  We don't know what's going on in that kids household.
• 27:18
  We don't know if that kid gets homesick and wants to go home.
• 27:21
  We don't know if that kid gets there and says hey Ben, y'all
• 27:23
  got too many people in this room.
• 27:26
  We don't know what we don't. They might not like the living
• 27:28
  situation. You know, I've had kids here in
• 27:31
  Huntsville. Huntsville's a it's in Alabama.
• 27:33
  So we still country, but like Huntsville's a, a city.
• 27:38
  I've had kids that, you know, leave here and go to
• 27:39
  Jacksonville State and they're calling their parents and go,
• 27:42
  I'm in the country, man. Like you got to come get me.
• 27:45
  I can't stay there. My kid did it.
• 27:47
  My daughter went to Jacksonville State and stayed again.
• 27:50
  And she was like, I want to come back home and go online because
• 27:52
  there's no Chick-fil-A here. Like that's a big thing.
• 27:56
  You never know what's happening when a kid leaves his house, you
• 28:00
  know, or, or her house. So just normal stuff as fans.
• 28:05
  I get it. I've been there.
• 28:07
  I'm one of those people who want to get in everything and want to
• 28:10
  know everything and see if I can make a call and see if I can
• 28:12
  look at a message board. But guess what?
• 28:14
  Right now I don't give. A fuck.
• 28:17
  I don't care. I just want to win.
• 28:20
  I don't care what's going on. I just want us to win.
• 28:23
  That's what I want and. The thing about winning tally is
• 28:26
  winning takes care of a lot of these.
• 28:27
  Everything you win, winning, winning will solve a lot of the
• 28:31
  the big problems that we have. Yeah.
• 28:33
  It's it's not going to solve everything and and it's not
• 28:36
  going to turn us into a powerhouse overnight, But if you
• 28:40
  can win and win consistently, a lot of your year to year
• 28:44
  problems start to disappear. And then it's all about can you
• 28:47
  build a foundation good enough to take that big step up the
• 28:52
  next rung of the ladder? But if you can just start
• 28:54
  winning eight games every year, you'd get consistent with that A
• 28:58
  lot of these other problems that we have start to go away.
• 29:01
  Now let me say this before we get back to Batay, because I
• 29:03
  know Curtis, we got to get, we got to get this man out of here.
• 29:06
  He got a. Lot of these guys in man man.
• 29:08
  Yeah, he got a, he got a lot of stuff to do.
• 29:10
  I will say this and we'll talk about a little bit more on our
• 29:14
  panel that's coming up. Also, our season preview, we did
• 29:19
  have a lot that came back last year.
• 29:21
  Great. So much return in production.
• 29:24
  But I'm going to say this, y'all can hate me if you want to.
• 29:27
  Some people came back the same, some people didn't get better.
• 29:31
  Just because you're returning doesn't mean you're better.
• 29:33
  You said that last year. You leave and you come back from
• 29:36
  summer break or whatever you call it, especially as a pro.
• 29:41
  All of those kids want to be pros.
• 29:43
  You got to come back better. And sometimes, man, when you get
• 29:47
  paid, you just you kind of chill.
• 29:51
  Some of our offensive lineman look like they chilled.
• 29:54
  Our running back didn't chill. No, he didn't.
• 29:56
  You know Dorian. That's why he got a lot more
• 29:58
  money this year. Dorian.
• 30:00
  Than he did last year. I think Steve Stevens said it.
• 30:03
  He said they believe the hype. Yeah, we believe the hype last
• 30:06
  year. I'm not saying no good.
• 30:09
  The coordinators believe the hype.
• 30:11
  I said that from the beginning. You know, I ain't saying we're
• 30:14
  going to be so much better, but I do believe that Pratt has his
• 30:18
  best staff from top to bottom this year since he's been here.
• 30:23
  He is still the head coach. I'm still saying probably you
• 30:26
  got to win. But I do think that this staff
• 30:28
  from top to bottom is better than the Staffs he had in the
• 30:31
  past. So want to get that out.
• 30:33
  Y'all can talk about it in the chat.
• 30:35
  I know we got to get back to Mattel Curtis.
• 30:37
  What we got? Well.
• 30:37
  What we got is we've been going, you know, we've been exactly
• 30:42
  rose colored glasses the 1st 30 minutes here because that's a
• 30:46
  who we are. We don't, we don't paint it.
• 30:48
  We paint it like we see it, but there are some positives that
• 30:51
  happen like what they mentioned earlier this month.
• 30:54
  And it ain't all doom and gloom. We got 9 kids in the boat and we
• 30:59
  just wanted to hit on a couple of them.
• 31:00
  I'm going to let Brian tee it off with the first one because I
• 31:03
  know where he's going. You know where he's going,
• 31:04
  Tally, and I know where Tally's going.
• 31:06
  Hey man, this is this is an offensive line focus podcast, a
• 31:10
  trench focus podcast. So we got to talk about Thomas
• 31:13
  Wilder, mate, tell us what type of recruit this kid is and talk
• 31:19
  a little bit about how Pry has built this pipeline with that
• 31:25
  deep run program that down. Green run 5. 7 green run.
• 31:29
  I said deep run. Sorry green run my deep run.
• 31:32
  Right Curtis. Getting right, Curtis.
• 31:35
  Hey green run, my bad green run. Yeah.
• 31:39
  I mean, I mean, first and foremost, Thomas Wilder is, I
• 31:43
  mean, I think when we all looked at this class, he was a guy that
• 31:48
  not only the coaching staff circled as this is a top guy
• 31:53
  that we need desperately to keep here.
• 31:56
  But I think all fans saw that too.
• 31:59
  And I think it helps. I talked about it before with
• 32:03
  the coordinators meeting a lot of these guys before, but this
• 32:08
  is Matt Moore as well. This is, you know, there is
• 32:11
  crystal balls over a year ago for Thomas Wilder to go to West
• 32:15
  Virginia and Matt Moore has kept that connection.
• 32:19
  Virginia Tech has kept that connection.
• 32:22
  This is a guy that has been recruited by Virginia Tech since
• 32:25
  he was 13 years old, right? Like he is growing into his
• 32:30
  body. He is starting to play big
• 32:32
  football and Virginia Tech is there every single step of the
• 32:35
  way. And it does help Green run.
• 32:39
  I think Wilder transferred there before last year.
• 32:44
  But you look at, I think the domino effect has been real.
• 32:48
  And you look at a guy like Keelan Adams, Brody Adams, that
• 32:52
  was a guy that the staff just worked so hard on.
• 32:56
  And then you have guys like Fontelle Mines coming in.
• 32:59
  You have Matt Moore coming into the school.
• 33:01
  All of a sudden you're recruiting guys all over the
• 33:03
  field from that program. All the different coaches are
• 33:06
  coming in those doors week after week, establishing connections
• 33:11
  not only with the coaching staff and the players, but these
• 33:15
  families that talk to one another, the community.
• 33:17
  So I think they've shown a willingness and granted, these
• 33:22
  are great players. Like not every high school,
• 33:26
  especially in state, are you going to find multiple guys on
• 33:29
  the same team that you can confidently say in our sixteen
• 33:34
  man recruiting class, we're going to take two to three of
• 33:36
  you guys. I mean, that's crazy if you
• 33:38
  think about it. But no matter who the green run
• 33:41
  prospects are, Virginia Tech, like we'll give them a fair
• 33:45
  shake and we'll recruit them and has been recruiting all these
• 33:49
  guys for many, many years. So I think, you know, not only
• 33:54
  is it a lot of these guys that will eventually see their former
• 33:57
  teammates from the high school level at the collegiate level,
• 34:00
  it's like it's one big community and it it just so happens that
• 34:04
  they're very talented at playing football as well.
• 34:10
  Well, I was happy that he committed.
• 34:15
  I was worried, but I was happy that he did.
• 34:18
  Another one that I was happy to see.
• 34:20
  Didn't really know much about him, but I do know what we need
• 34:24
  help at. And this kid was committed to
• 34:27
  Rutgers, Terrell Simpson, he was committed to Rutgers.
• 34:33
  And I know what Rutgers look for and I know what kind of program
• 34:36
  they have. So again, didn't know much about
• 34:39
  the kid, but when I seen he was committed to Rutgers and I seen
• 34:42
  his size, definitely got happy about it.
• 34:46
  But wanted to ask you kind of how did that that commitment go?
• 34:50
  How did that you know, what do we do?
• 34:53
  What? What happened there?
• 34:54
  Yeah. I mean, I, I think sometimes you
• 34:57
  get aided by things out of your control.
• 35:00
  And I won't go into too many details on it, but I think with
• 35:06
  Simpson, Simpson, he's a guy that Virginia Tech recruited and
• 35:11
  recruited. And, you know, I was pretty
• 35:13
  pessimistic about it because I, you know, obviously I heard some
• 35:17
  rumblings, some people on my team were saying, you know, I
• 35:20
  think there is a legitimate possibility that there could be
• 35:23
  a flip here. And all of a sudden, you know, a
• 35:27
  guy from North Carolina, as you mentioned, Rutgers knows how to,
• 35:32
  you could say what you want about them in the Big 10 and
• 35:34
  their overall success rate and what have you, but they know how
• 35:38
  to develop offensive lineman. And I think that was a situation
• 35:44
  where at the time, Rutgers seemed like the best opportunity
• 35:49
  to get a full ride to a really good program that would develop
• 35:52
  him. But I think, you know, wasn't
• 35:55
  too much time. But I think he really realized
• 36:00
  the need for him to stay home or closer to home.
• 36:04
  And Virginia Tech offered the best opportunity to not only,
• 36:09
  you know, get a full ride develop under Matt Moore, but
• 36:14
  stay close to home. And I think that was the missing
• 36:18
  piece that became apparent over time and the reason why they
• 36:24
  were able to, you know, get that flip.
• 36:29
  Yeah. Definitely good flip.
• 36:30
  We got a little birdie in our ear.
• 36:32
  Somebody messaged us and said, I think we're going to flip one
• 36:36
  soon. We're like, OK, that's that's
• 36:38
  nice. But you hold your breath, right,
• 36:40
  because people have messaged us before me like, oh, this is
• 36:43
  going to happen and none never happened.
• 36:44
  So in that one was a good case in the tallies points like every
• 36:48
  kind of all mixes where he got recruited to the footprint guy
• 36:52
  and then just his sheer size. It was like great flip.
• 36:55
  Love it. I got one I want to hit on.
• 36:58
  And this is a guy that recruited way back in April and Josh
• 37:00
  Pittman down at Suffolk, down at Kingsport, a linebacker.
• 37:06
  And. Yes, maybe what I want a little
• 37:09
  more on this one is this was Xavier DB's first recruit.
• 37:14
  He put it in the boat quick. His first chance to get out
• 37:17
  there, hit the road, puts a pretty solid one on the board
• 37:22
  from what you've heard. How big was being Xavier DB to
• 37:27
  Joshua Pittman? Very big, very big.
• 37:31
  And I think, you know, there's a lot of similarities there.
• 37:34
  I think at the same time, like this is a guy that, you know, 6,
• 37:38
  three. I think he just put up like a
• 37:40
  weight update on Twitter. He's 230 now.
• 37:44
  Yeah. He's following the plan, then.
• 37:46
  He sure is like this is a very dedicated, serious young man
• 37:51
  that really wants to be successful.
• 37:53
  And I think they view him as a guy that can do a lot of things.
• 37:58
  They view him more as an outside linebacker, maybe a guy that
• 38:01
  could, you know, in certain situations, rush the passer,
• 38:05
  maybe play closer to the line, but just a really solid player.
• 38:09
  And I think when they were looking at, you know, we're
• 38:12
  going to them saying we're going to take one to two linebackers
• 38:17
  this class, they always knew in the back of their mind they
• 38:19
  wanted him as one of them. So I think that's why it was so
• 38:23
  quick. Again, only nine guys.
• 38:26
  But of the nine guys that are in the class, it's very clear like
• 38:30
  these were the guys that Virginia Tech was like, we need
• 38:33
  to say yes to. We need their commitments.
• 38:36
  Again, like I said it a bit earlier, they could have 16 by
• 38:40
  now. They decided we're not confident
• 38:43
  on the other 7 or so. But the nine guys that they have
• 38:47
  right now, including Pittman, like they they knew they wanted
• 38:51
  him at linebacker. I love hearing that and let's
• 38:56
  talk about that a little bit because you know, you talked to
• 38:58
  a couple times at this point about, you know, maybe a couple
• 39:02
  of these guys that could have been in the boat that we've
• 39:05
  either kind of pull back on or you know, yet new coordinators
• 39:08
  coming in want to see a little bit more before they they pull
• 39:10
  that trigger. What other schools have
• 39:16
  benefited from that You're looking at maybe like the top 20
• 39:19
  in the state is, is there certain schools that have
• 39:22
  benefited maybe from us taking a little more of a slower approach
• 39:26
  this cycle as a result of those new coordinators?
• 39:28
  Yeah, I think you know it. It definitely varies in terms of
• 39:35
  like, you know, definitely there's another in state school
• 39:38
  that has benefited, you know, other ACC schools, but I, I've
• 39:44
  also seen like I know there, there is one battle with Texas
• 39:49
  Tech. I'm, I'm trying not to like say
• 39:51
  all the names here, but I think just in general, like there are
• 39:58
  other schools that have benefited definitely from
• 40:01
  Virginia Tech kind of waiting out the process.
• 40:04
  Like you can kind of put it together like when the official
• 40:08
  visits happened late May. Into June, like a lot of these
• 40:13
  guys are, are pushing to commit, right And we've seen so many
• 40:17
  commitments to various different schools where Virginia Tech was
• 40:22
  in the top five, the top three, sometimes even it was 2 schools
• 40:26
  that a recruits choosing from. And, you know, I want to be
• 40:29
  clear in some instances of that happening, you know, that
• 40:34
  recruit decided I want that other school.
• 40:36
  But there have been opportunities for Virginia Tech
• 40:39
  to add. And they said, you know, we're
• 40:40
  just not confident right now. We want to see some more film.
• 40:44
  And all the best of them as as they make their commitment and
• 40:48
  have a spot somewhere else. Nice.
• 40:52
  We've mentioned a couple times, Nah, Nah, Nah.
• 40:55
  That's where we're stuck at right now.
• 40:57
  And you obviously pay attention to the portal to the class size
• 41:01
  to maybe see this guys that you thought would make an impact by
• 41:05
  their third season. It's just like they're just not
• 41:07
  coming to fruition. Where do you see where do you
• 41:12
  see this class landing? What's your number?
• 41:14
  Just like, again, playing the scholarship game, playing the
• 41:18
  they're going to need this from the you're you're logged in.
• 41:21
  Where are you throwing your darn sand?
• 41:23
  I think we're going to land about here.
• 41:25
  Yeah. So I, I would say this, I mean,
• 41:28
  last year they got 20 high school guys.
• 41:32
  And if you think about it, most of that was done.
• 41:35
  And I always bring it up, but like early July is when the
• 41:38
  spree starts throughout July, maybe early August, maybe you
• 41:43
  get like sprinkle in one to two, like September, October.
• 41:47
  And then all of a sudden, like last year, I think Virginia Tech
• 41:51
  was 16 or 17 guys. And then all of a sudden you
• 41:55
  have a late flip. And then you add a guy like JoJo
• 41:59
  Krim and you know, you're able to kind of you, you've already
• 42:06
  developed these relationships and maybe you can take a couple
• 42:08
  more guys as you figure out the numbers.
• 42:11
  So I kind of see the same thing this year.
• 42:13
  Like, I know it's been a little slower to start, but I
• 42:16
  realistically can see Virginia Tech like 15 or 16 and then they
• 42:23
  could push up from that closer to signing day.
• 42:26
  Because I, I do think there's going to be like I keep saying
• 42:31
  it, but so many guys committed already and I think there's a
• 42:34
  lot of prospects of Virginia Tech's going to fight for.
• 42:40
  I don't know, like a lot of them are long shots.
• 42:43
  But at the same time, like you never know what could happen
• 42:46
  leading up to signing day. Is is there a coach that leaves
• 42:48
  or moves on so many different factors?
• 42:52
  So I see it as somewhere between 16 to 18, maybe even pushing 20.
• 42:59
  OK, it's. A little bit bigger than I
• 43:01
  thought when you start talking about that bigger number being
• 43:04
  20. But I guess I got to ask, man.
• 43:10
  I mean, I don't know how much you can tell me, but I at least
• 43:12
  got to got to ask you, you know, names that I guess we haven't
• 43:17
  talked about, the names that you may be hearing that we're
• 43:18
  targeting. What are some names that you can
• 43:22
  give us that may be Hokies by December?
• 43:26
  Yeah, I mean, it's it's an interesting list.
• 43:29
  I right now is a dead period and we just saw a huge spree.
• 43:34
  So I won't say it's the most exciting list, but in terms of,
• 43:40
  you know, guys that they could be targeting, Cole Bergeron, a
• 43:44
  guy out of Louisiana high three star prostyle quarterback, I
• 43:49
  think he's like 6 four and a half.
• 43:52
  He's a guy that, you know, they've identified Montgomery.
• 43:56
  He's someone that has Virginia Tech on top right now.
• 44:00
  I think they're in the, you know, they very much want to add
• 44:03
  a quarterback to this class. And he seems like the favorite
• 44:06
  in in my opinion. I think in terms of like bigger
• 44:12
  star power, T Ron Richardson, Hopewell guy.
• 44:17
  I think if Virginia Tech can pull this one out, he's the guy
• 44:23
  that everyone looks at at the end of the cycle and says that's
• 44:26
  the gem of the class. Like including Thomas Wilder.
• 44:29
  I think he's that good. Penn State, Oklahoma, Syracuse,
• 44:34
  they're all in on him. But yeah, he's a big one for
• 44:39
  this cycle. I think, you know, the biggest
• 44:42
  fish that's probably out there, I know I've seen like Elijah
• 44:46
  Golden, he's announcing pretty soon, I think on the 26th.
• 44:51
  He has Notre Dame, Bama, Oklahoma and then Virginia Tech
• 44:55
  in his Final Four. I think that one's like an
• 44:57
  absolute long shot, but you just never know.
• 45:00
  Like they recruited him for a very long time.
• 45:03
  Personally, if Notre Dame and Alabama are calling, I'm
• 45:06
  listening. But he's still someone that's,
• 45:09
  you know, in the conversation at least and that they're pushing
• 45:12
  for other guys. I know Jalen Burrell has been an
• 45:17
  interesting one. He's a high three star.
• 45:21
  I think he's listed as a safety. I believe he's playing wide
• 45:25
  receiver for his high school program.
• 45:28
  And I, you know, I'm not sure if he's looking to go the route of
• 45:32
  wide receiver or not, but he's someone that definitely Virginia
• 45:35
  Tech wants to monitor through senior season.
• 45:40
  Charles Belser, linebacker out of Philadelphia.
• 45:44
  He's got Michigan State, UCF and Virginia Tech in his top three
• 45:49
  right now. He's another guy I think
• 45:52
  Virginia Tech would want to add from a inside linebacker
• 45:55
  perspective. And then, you know, a name to
• 45:59
  watch. Got to mention Green run again.
• 46:02
  But Shawn Church junior, he's another quarterback, big lanky
• 46:06
  guy. I think he's like 63190 or so
• 46:10
  could play multiple positions. But yeah, with and also Zay
• 46:16
  Cleveland as well. Like I know he's already in the
• 46:18
  boat, but it's just, it's just funny how much Green run can
• 46:22
  give to Virginia Tech. But he's he's someone I think
• 46:26
  again, like with a big senior season, I could I could see that
• 46:29
  happening. But again, I think like the
• 46:33
  names, I always say that I feel like I say this every time I'm
• 46:36
  on here, like the names always change, right?
• 46:39
  But I think the idea is that they're looking for a
• 46:42
  quarterback, couple wide receivers, maybe add to the O
• 46:46
  line and D line. If it's, you know, someone they
• 46:49
  can really add to that group with.
• 46:51
  And then I think they rounded out with couple safeties, A
• 46:55
  linebacker and maybe another cornerback.
• 46:58
  And I think you're talking about like a nice class.
• 47:00
  Oh, and definitely a tight end. They definitely need a tight
• 47:03
  end. Definitely need a tight end.
• 47:05
  Yeah, definitely. Let me let me ask you this,
• 47:08
  Matei. I mean, you talked about some of
• 47:10
  the, the schools in the mix for these kids that are still, you
• 47:13
  know, haven't committed yet. When I look through kind of the,
• 47:19
  the, the commitments for the state of Virginia and, and kind
• 47:22
  of look in the footprint in general, I'm seeing Syracuse in
• 47:26
  a lot of these battles either either already have a, a verbal
• 47:30
  commit or are pretty high in, in these final, final round outs.
• 47:35
  Here is, is Fran Brown making a big push down in the
• 47:40
  Mid-Atlantic this year In general #1 and #2 we've already
• 47:45
  seen a couple flips that are there's some flip opportunities
• 47:49
  for the Hokies that you've already identified that we
• 47:52
  should keep our eyes on. Yeah, I'll say with Fran Brown,
• 47:56
  I mean, it's, it's not to the same degree as like a, a Texas
• 48:01
  Tech. I mean, this is just my opinion,
• 48:03
  right? But like I think when I talk
• 48:05
  about or have talked about tonight about some of those
• 48:09
  short term impacts of like some schools are operating in a
• 48:14
  different way than others. I think Syracuse is one of those
• 48:17
  programs like they're seeing the benefits of, you know, some of
• 48:20
  the rules changing and they're you know, I think they're I
• 48:24
  think Fran Brown is legit as a recruiter.
• 48:27
  I think he's a great staff for it.
• 48:29
  I mean they just got blanking on his name now, but they just got
• 48:32
  that five star guy over Michigan, which was a big
• 48:37
  shocker. But and Miami.
• 48:41
  But yeah, I think Fran Brown has has done a good job in term in
• 48:46
  terms of flips. I think Amari go from who's
• 48:52
  committed to Syracuse now, he's a guy that Fontelle Mines has
• 48:56
  been recruiting a lot. I think you know, athlete guy
• 49:00
  would play wide receiver at Virginia Tech.
• 49:04
  He's someone I would keep an eye out for.
• 49:07
  Dizier Carter over at Rutgers, another Rutgers guy.
• 49:11
  But again, wide receiver. Just my opinion.
• 49:15
  I just think Fontelle Mines the way that he operates, he's going
• 49:19
  to continue to recruit guys till the very, very end.
• 49:23
  And we've already seen some cases where he's gotten some
• 49:25
  flips from it. But overall, I think that could
• 49:30
  end up winning out over the long haul.
• 49:32
  I think both those guys are probably still long shots.
• 49:36
  I know everyone's like Carter's Carter Scruggs, like can
• 49:40
  Virginia Tech get them from Clemson?
• 49:43
  That one's long gone. But you know, Virginia Tech will
• 49:46
  continue to recruit him. I mean, Darius Gray, even though
• 49:49
  he's uncommitted, he's not going to commit to Virginia Tech
• 49:53
  spoiler alert. But again, I'm trying to address
• 49:58
  the fans here. But you know, that's someone
• 50:00
  they're going to continue to recruit.
• 50:02
  And you know, maybe a guy like Isaiah Simmons at Pitt to add
• 50:07
  another linebacker. I know Virginia Tech was high on
• 50:11
  him, he chose Pitt. But those are kind of the guys
• 50:15
  I'm looking at right now. I think go and Dizier Carter,
• 50:18
  probably the most realistic, but still a flip is a flip alone is,
• 50:24
  you know, very unrealistic, but those are guys simply because
• 50:29
  Fontelle mines and and the history there.
• 50:32
  Yeah, when I when I brought that question up and brought Syracuse
• 50:35
  into the discussion, I was hoping you were going to say
• 50:36
  Amari Go's name. So.
• 50:38
  Yeah, yeah, send eight O 4 kid down at TJ.
• 50:43
  So, but it's really funny how you well, how you mentioned Fran
• 50:46
  Brown, what he's doing, but the biggest thing that he did last
• 50:50
  year was win 10 games. If that guy was 3 and 10 last
• 50:54
  year, no one would be looking at, no one would be looking at
• 50:58
  Syracuse. But you win 10 games, you're the
• 51:02
  hotness. Also the billionaire donor maybe
• 51:06
  says, OK, here's an extra 5 million this year.
• 51:08
  He kicked ass last year. Exactly.
• 51:11
  Yeah, I mean, pulling Calvin Russell was a big deal.
• 51:13
  Yeah, Calvin, Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:16
  Huge deal. You might play both sports there
• 51:22
  too. You're you're muted there, bud.
• 51:25
  I'm on mute. Yeah, you are on mute.
• 51:27
  Yeah, we can hear you now. Check.
• 51:29
  Check. All good.
• 51:31
  Y'all can hear me? Yep, we can hear you.
• 51:33
  I can't hear y'all one moment boys.
• 51:36
  That's a problem. There we go, technical
• 51:39
  difficulties here. We're back.
• 51:41
  Let's jump off recruiting for a few minutes here and let's just
• 51:44
  come up with our mirrors here. You know, you were you were
• 51:47
  having a conversation with us before we jumped on the night
• 51:51
  about how, how is Matei sis going to take the key of the
• 51:55
  landline in the kick off of the 2025 season?
• 51:58
  Matei, if you make it, we're probably going to have you back
• 52:02
  that next week just to recount your journey because what he's
• 52:07
  got to do y'all? It's it'll be a great story.
• 52:11
  But let's talk a little bit about this piece in general.
• 52:15
  And we've mentioned their names a couple times and there's also
• 52:19
  a few other guys that have not been mentioned thus far.
• 52:22
  But what did you feel about the moves, the hiring of Philip
• 52:26
  Montgomery, the hiring of Stamp, Steve, just the absolute
• 52:30
  stealing of Matt. I don't know why you give up
• 52:34
  that guy to keep you do what you got to do along with some of the
• 52:39
  other staff moves. You know, Xavier coming to staff
• 52:42
  where Brent Pry is to me. I think somebody mentioned in
• 52:46
  the chat earlier, he did what people who are having average
• 52:50
  team has to do. You have to shake up.
• 52:53
  You have to change. But when you started seeing
• 52:55
  those come in in January, where was your head at Ford?
• 53:00
  Yeah. I mean, I think initially
• 53:03
  looking at Sefke's, like I was trying to understand it at the
• 53:08
  time. And I think there's so many
• 53:10
  factors that go into it. And I know a lot of them are
• 53:13
  probably well documented by now. Like there's been much discourse
• 53:16
  about it. But you probably weren't going
• 53:18
  to get a guy that, you know, like Brent Pry at the end of the
• 53:22
  day is still a defensive coach. Like he's going to be looking
• 53:25
  over your shoulder. You're not going to get a Uber
• 53:28
  experience guy to come in who maybe only has one year with the
• 53:32
  program. Like if it's worst case
• 53:33
  scenario. And I think what they got, like
• 53:38
  I'm intrigued by it. I think I still need to see like
• 53:41
  what it's going to look like on the field 'cause I think
• 53:43
  sometimes where my head goes when you bring professional guys
• 53:48
  to the college ranks is they've just done this.
• 53:52
  Multiple systems, multiple schemes, you know, they pick
• 53:55
  guys out in the portal that maybe play a certain technique
• 53:58
  and then they go off the field and they bring on someone else.
• 54:02
  And that works in the pros because everyone's a pro.
• 54:05
  Will that work at the college level?
• 54:07
  What happens if you need to simplify the plan?
• 54:10
  Like, I have a lot of questions like that, but I do think as a
• 54:14
  coordinator, as a guy with, you know, raw football IQ, I really
• 54:20
  like it. And I think like the ideal
• 54:22
  version of what Virginia Tech's defense looks like, like really
• 54:27
  excites me. I think it's just kind of wait
• 54:30
  and see mode on that front. Then I think with Montgomery,
• 54:34
  like obviously had Bowen go to Ohio State as offensive line
• 54:38
  coach and you know that that kind of, you know, all of a
• 54:43
  sudden you need to fill that void.
• 54:46
  But I like Montgomery a lot because I think there was just
• 54:50
  when you look at the offense, like obviously there were a lot,
• 54:53
  there were there were some highs, but there are also a lot
• 54:55
  of lows. And I think Montgomery's a guy
• 54:58
  that will come in and kind of even it out.
• 55:01
  And if not, you know, still like I I think he's gonna try to
• 55:07
  maximize what he has and not do too much with the pieces or, or,
• 55:12
  you know, like, and I think Bowen sometimes got a little too
• 55:17
  creative and it didn't quite work out.
• 55:21
  But I I am excited about Montgomery.
• 55:24
  But I think in a simple way, like where cefkeys is maybe more
• 55:28
  of the creative. I want to see how it's going to
• 55:30
  go down Montgomery. I have, you know, it's the
• 55:34
  experience and kind of the simplicity that I like there.
• 55:37
  Obviously. Matt Moore.
• 55:39
  What more can you say? A+ higher.
• 55:43
  Like again, we talked about it a bunch, but Sefke's Montgomery,
• 55:48
  they're coming into a new situation.
• 55:50
  Matt Moore was like, I'm going to bring all my guys and I have
• 55:53
  pre-existing relationships. It's going to help out this next
• 55:56
  recruiting class. So everything he's done outside,
• 56:00
  like we haven't fully seen the development yet.
• 56:02
  Like I'm I'm still waiting to see.
• 56:05
  I think it's going to come out pretty soon, but like the height
• 56:09
  and weight on the roster, I'm one of those guys that's pretty
• 56:12
  excited about that. See all the weight room stuff
• 56:16
  with Ferg, but I'm, you know, outside the development and on
• 56:22
  field products like Matt Moore has done everything and more to
• 56:27
  bring some hope to the offensive line room.
• 56:30
  So very excited about Matt Moore, like he's already paying
• 56:35
  off dividends there. Yeah, very, very excited about
• 56:38
  Matt Moore and, you know, kind of looking back at, you know,
• 56:41
  what you're saying about about seekers, I feel like his Wofford
• 56:46
  experience is going to come into play in terms of how he's
• 56:51
  deploying some of that personnel.
• 56:55
  I think it's going to be interesting to see what if he
• 57:01
  can scale it up. So like he's he's he's had the
• 57:03
  Wofford experience, he's had the NFL experience, like, you know,
• 57:07
  Virginia Tech power for college football.
• 57:09
  It's kind of somewhere in the middle of those two from a
• 57:12
  talent perspective. And is he going to be able to
• 57:14
  make that type of adjustment? Because you still need to be
• 57:19
  innovative and bring new ideas to the table to be competitive
• 57:21
  there. But you also need to be able to
• 57:23
  do a lot with sometimes at least going to be one or two positions
• 57:27
  where you don't quite have the talent that you'd like to have.
• 57:30
  Right. We getting close man, Don't
• 57:36
  worry. Man, I'm just old.
• 57:38
  Man, I'm just old. Been working hard.
• 57:41
  All day. Got ready, got ready to talk and
• 57:43
  did next thing you know it y'all wants to come.
• 57:45
  So somebody said what put that up Brian?
• 57:49
  What does it say? What's Steven?
• 57:50
  What's Steven say the last? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:54
  You know, stuff like that, man, I feel, I feel you, Steven, I'm
• 57:58
  with you. But I guess I'll ask the next
• 58:01
  question of form a tape. Do you have any expectations for
• 58:07
  this year and if you do kind of where are?
• 58:12
  They this is where, of course, Tally's asking the question,
• 58:16
  will he be optimistic, Tally, or will he be?
• 58:20
  He gave you a whole hour, whole hour, and he's gonna finally.
• 58:23
  He sure did, to be honest with you.
• 58:28
  I'm somewhere in the middle. I I truly am somewhere in the
• 58:31
  middle. I think there are so many
• 58:33
  unknowns last year. You look at the roster, I mean
• 58:37
  we've gone through it like a million Times Now, but there are
• 58:41
  so many expectations. Like there are a lot of knowns
• 58:44
  this year. I think you brought it up
• 58:46
  earlier, tally 60 new players on the roster.
• 58:49
  Like there's a lot of unknown. There's a new scheme on both
• 58:54
  sides of the ball and there's a lot of pressure as well.
• 58:58
  I think the good news, I don't feel like the ACC as a whole is
• 59:05
  or I, I know the schedule is kind of, you know, there's a
• 59:09
  couple really tough opponents next year and a lot of teams in
• 59:12
  the middle, but I don't feel like there's a ton of like the
• 59:16
  talent compared to last year feels down.
• 59:19
  So I think there is a path for Virginia Tech.
• 59:23
  I think my realistic upside for them is, you know, 84 is for me,
• 59:30
  like that's me trying to be as realistic as possible.
• 59:34
  But I think I I land somewhere at 6:00 and 6:00 at the end of
• 59:36
  the day. Yeah, I get it.
• 59:39
  I understand. Kind of the same.
• 59:41
  So y'all don't get to see no tally, you just get the regular
• 59:46
  one right now. The middle you get to see the
• 59:49
  middle right the. Mid tally you're doing Mike you.
• 59:52
  Get to provide to me it So what it.
• 59:55
  Is Mike. Oh, Mike.
• 59:57
  Yeah. You know, that's like, I like
• 59:59
  what you say there because the 8:00 and 4:00 is the good,
• 1:00:03
  right? But until the head coach proves
• 1:00:08
  certain things can be managed right, because we go through the
• 1:00:12
  last two seasons of certain things have been managed right.
• 1:00:16
  I don't think we're sitting here questioning anything.
• 1:00:19
  You know, you think about the end of the Vanderbilt, the end
• 1:00:21
  of the Rutgers game, the end of the Duke game, the the the
• 1:00:24
  Syracuse debacle. Is, is, is is.
• 1:00:29
  I'll give you all some opium. As much as we bitch and
• 1:00:31
  complain, this team was very close to winning 9 and 10 games
• 1:00:35
  last year. And if that had been the record
• 1:00:37
  next to it, a tally, be a lot happier.
• 1:00:41
  I throw in stuff, I'd be a lot happier.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah. So to me, he's made the changes
• 1:00:47
  in one aspect, and Sally has said it numerous times.
• 1:00:51
  Can he change himself? Because that's what it takes.
• 1:00:56
  He's made all the pieces around him, right?
• 1:00:58
  Can he learn from those guys? Can he learn from other people?
• 1:01:01
  Start making other decisions? I think we got one more Brian,
• 1:01:04
  before we you got something you want to say go.
• 1:01:06
  Ahead. Yeah, I just, I will, I will
• 1:01:07
  piggyback on that a little bit. I mean, at some point at the
• 1:01:10
  day, I think Pride does a very good job of evaluating the
• 1:01:15
  program. But it at the end of the day, if
• 1:01:17
  you, if you're doing your evaluations and you make your
• 1:01:20
  adjustments, at some point you've got to get better or you
• 1:01:22
  got to go. And so that's where we're at
• 1:01:25
  right now. I think he's done the things he
• 1:01:28
  needs to do from a self evaluation standpoint.
• 1:01:31
  We need to see it put into action or we're going to be
• 1:01:35
  having the same discussion next year, except the seats going to
• 1:01:38
  be on fire and it's going to be if you don't win 8 plus games,
• 1:01:41
  you're probably gone. We're going to be we're going to
• 1:01:43
  be facing that type of situation this time next year.
• 1:01:46
  So that's where I'm at. But let's go, let's go back one
• 1:01:49
  little 1 little more round of, of, of recruiting stuff real
• 1:01:54
  quick here before we let you get out of here, but say so we had
• 1:01:58
  this, this really good 2025 class.
• 1:02:00
  We feel really good about it. What's a commit that you think
• 1:02:05
  is going to be a household name come December?
• 1:02:08
  Household name from this last class let me. 2025 that's a big
• 1:02:18
  class. There's 20 people so.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah. Do do we want transfers or are
• 1:02:22
  we talking like? No, no, no high school.
• 1:02:25
  Like high school, just the high school guy, any guys, it's going
• 1:02:28
  to be a pretty immediate impact whether the guys that had, you
• 1:02:31
  know, had some some reps in the spring or whether it's somebody
• 1:02:34
  that sure and. That's the thing I was going to
• 1:02:38
  say. That's the thing with the
• 1:02:39
  portal. There are some guys we've got
• 1:02:40
  that we've got the tape right against Elite Cop like I got.
• 1:02:43
  That's true football. I think in terms of high school
• 1:02:48
  guys, Sheldon Robinson's the name that jumps out.
• 1:02:51
  And the thing that makes me very happy about him is I had that
• 1:02:55
  feeling before he signed, like he was gonna play.
• 1:03:00
  I, I think the coaching staff thought that.
• 1:03:03
  And not only has he showed up and started to develop and
• 1:03:07
  really, you know, take shape in a college weight room, I think
• 1:03:12
  he's someone that can get onto the field.
• 1:03:14
  And I know there's a ton of bodies in that DB room.
• 1:03:18
  I just think he's very versatile and there could be a package for
• 1:03:21
  him. Like again, we talked about it,
• 1:03:24
  it's win now mode. They're going to play a lot of
• 1:03:26
  older guys, a lot of these transfers.
• 1:03:28
  But if there's one guy to step up from the freshman class that
• 1:03:32
  is undeniably has that talent to get on the field, I think it's
• 1:03:36
  Sheldon Robinson. Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  I mean, you, you mentioned him and I think that's interesting
• 1:03:41
  because, you know, you say we definitely brought in a bunch of
• 1:03:44
  safeties in the transfer portal, But what we don't really have is
• 1:03:50
  a a ton of entrenched guys at, at those position groups.
• 1:03:52
  Like everybody that's coming in is either new or young.
• 1:03:56
  So there's going to be some opportunity to get fight for
• 1:03:58
  some reps in that room. So I, I like that pic.
• 1:04:02
  I think, I think he's going to have a, a really good career.
• 1:04:05
  So I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do as well.
• 1:04:07
  All right. And, and, and I've got one more
• 1:04:09
  thing because I got a message saying when's the basketball
• 1:04:11
  segment? And this is kind of off.
• 1:04:14
  I don't I don't think I sent you anything on this, but I saw you
• 1:04:17
  make a post You're you're clearly paying attention to Neo.
• 1:04:21
  I mean, how excited. I know you, you're primarily
• 1:04:25
  focused on football, but y'all cover all aspects.
• 1:04:28
  What was that like to see a guy, you know how talented he is,
• 1:04:31
  Everybody does. But when you see that and it's
• 1:04:33
  like he's he's going to he's going to play in Cast Palace.
• 1:04:37
  I mean, I, I've been watching some of the highlights that have
• 1:04:41
  been everywhere of him playing for the Greek national team.
• 1:04:44
  And I can't believe a guy that big can move like that and is
• 1:04:49
  coming to Virginia Tech. Like, I just can't believe it.
• 1:04:51
  And I got to give a massive shout out to Chris Arvin, who
• 1:04:55
  writes for us on Vt Scoop, 'cause he's been calling that
• 1:04:58
  for months. He's been hitting us in the
• 1:05:00
  Slack channels and just talking about it.
• 1:05:04
  So I, I've gotten to watch him quite a bit over the last couple
• 1:05:07
  months and I know there's a lot of stress with the whole NBA
• 1:05:12
  decision and him eventually picking Virginia Tech.
• 1:05:16
  But yeah, he's just, he's so good.
• 1:05:19
  I, I am very excited for, for basketball, unlike last season,
• 1:05:24
  like, no, Mike Young did what he could out of it, but like, they
• 1:05:28
  put everything towards football. So much stuff happened right
• 1:05:32
  before the season and it, it was tough.
• 1:05:35
  Like, it's tough when Virginia Tech can't, you know, pull it
• 1:05:39
  together for college basketball. So I'm very excited for next
• 1:05:43
  year. Yeah, I mean, I think it's going
• 1:05:45
  to be a fun team to watch. It's not going to be a
• 1:05:48
  frustrating team to watch like it.
• 1:05:50
  This past year's team was at times.
• 1:05:53
  Whether that translates to enough wins to be competitive in
• 1:05:56
  the ACC, that's remains to be seen.
• 1:05:58
  But it's it's at least going to be a fun team to watch this
• 1:06:01
  year. I'm going to watch every game
• 1:06:03
  and who knows if they're how many they're going to win, but I
• 1:06:05
  I will definitely be watching I. Think it's going to be more than
• 1:06:08
  last year. There's going to be quite a few
• 1:06:11
  more than last year because I think what's been mentioned a
• 1:06:14
  couple times and on here and with just talking with different
• 1:06:17
  people, you look at this team, the way it's shaped, it's like
• 1:06:20
  it's competitive. Like we're long, we got size.
• 1:06:24
  So and we've got the one thing Tally's been begging for for the
• 1:06:26
  last three or four years, Just give us one guy who can make the
• 1:06:29
  plays off the ball. That's the Greek kid.
• 1:06:32
  The Greek kid can do that shit. So it's like we are up two
• 1:06:35
  points. We need 2 points to extend this
• 1:06:37
  lead. Give him the ball, he's going to
• 1:06:40
  go score. We actually got somebody with
• 1:06:41
  length that can handle the ball too.
• 1:06:43
  I like, I feel like we've been missing that component.
• 1:06:46
  Like there's a, there's a ton of big guards in the ACC and like,
• 1:06:50
  you know, we're running out, you know, 511, six foot kids.
• 1:06:54
  And no offense to them, they were good shooters, but they
• 1:06:56
  weren't exactly rangy kids and and elite ball handlers that
• 1:07:01
  could really match up with some of those other ACC guards.
• 1:07:04
  It's just crazy. I'm just thinking about it and
• 1:07:07
  just a little bit of a tangent here, but it's like if you were
• 1:07:10
  in a coma last year and you woke up today and you're like, what
• 1:07:13
  has happened with Virginia Tech athletics?
• 1:07:15
  It's like you have 60 new guys on on Virginia Tech's football
• 1:07:19
  roster. All of a sudden Mike Young is
• 1:07:21
  bringing in German 7 footers, Greek guys to play basketball.
• 1:07:25
  I mean, how much things can change in a year is it's just
• 1:07:28
  crazy. Yeah, for real.
• 1:07:31
  I just need somebody to be good. Basketball, baseball, football,
• 1:07:35
  softball, wrestling. String something together, man.
• 1:07:39
  Give me some hope. Hey, wrestling and softball gave
• 1:07:43
  you a little bit of hope. They were.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah, and I mean women's soccer, they went on a run too.
• 1:07:48
  So I mean, there, there wasn't like I, I, I think because
• 1:07:53
  wrestling probably had a little bit more expectations than they
• 1:07:56
  necessarily follow through on. That was a little
• 1:07:58
  disappointment, even though it was a good season, You know,
• 1:08:01
  there wasn't a whole lot to really, you know, hold on to
• 1:08:04
  this year. So it, it, it's nice to have a
• 1:08:06
  little bit of hope back at least for, for basketball.
• 1:08:09
  There's at least some hope for football in that we at least
• 1:08:14
  know we're not going to do the same thing we did last year
• 1:08:16
  because we brought in a whole bunch of new players and
• 1:08:19
  coaches. So it's going to look different.
• 1:08:21
  Even if the outcomes the same, it's at least going to look
• 1:08:23
  different. So there's something to to
• 1:08:25
  really latch onto from that perspective as well.
• 1:08:27
  So, you know, we'll see. We will wrestling last year
• 1:08:34
  wrestling did to us this year it's like winning nine games
• 1:08:38
  when we were winning 10 and 11 every year. 20 years ago, oh, we
• 1:08:41
  only won nine games. This year, oh man, like, and now
• 1:08:44
  it's like, give us 9 games. We'd be ain't ain't no telling
• 1:08:48
  what the episode would look like in December if we won nine games
• 1:08:51
  this year. Yeah.
• 1:08:53
  State of the program would go hard man.
• 1:08:55
  Yeah, that's nothing. We shouldn't win.
• 1:08:56
  We need to win 10. I got I got to hit mate with
• 1:09:00
  this before he leaves because I I have to, you know, he knows
• 1:09:03
  how I feel about his rankings, man.
• 1:09:04
  I'm he's been getting better. He's been getting better.
• 1:09:07
  But I did a little bit of research and a little bit of
• 1:09:11
  watch and I haven't done a lot because they don't piss me off.
• 1:09:15
  But T Ron Richardson, I did a little bit of research on him
• 1:09:18
  and a little bit of film study. I don't know, man.
• 1:09:22
  It kind of looked like he's better than a three star.
• 1:09:25
  I'm going to tell you. That's what I'm I'm just saying,
• 1:09:28
  man. I said the same thing I said.
• 1:09:31
  I'm saying when it's all said and done, he could be the gem of
• 1:09:35
  the class if he were to choose Virginia Tech.
• 1:09:38
  Right, right. Yeah, I look at his I looked at
• 1:09:41
  some of his offers and I mean off a list is is is crazy and
• 1:09:47
  talent is crazy. Size is good.
• 1:09:49
  So I was like, man, this this kid is is is nice.
• 1:09:52
  So again, haven't been paying a lot of attention to recruiting
• 1:09:56
  because y'all know why. But if you want to check out any
• 1:10:01
  kind of Virginia Tech recruiting or recruiting in general right
• 1:10:05
  now, go look at T Ron Richardson.
• 1:10:08
  T Ron. Richardson and.
• 1:10:11
  Take. Him out 11 player in the state
• 1:10:13
  of Virginia I think. Yeah, he's right behind Wilder.
• 1:10:16
  Behind Wilder #11 player but Tay, you got anything you want
• 1:10:19
  to add or plug before we wrap this night up?
• 1:10:22
  I'll say it's always a pleasure to come on here.
• 1:10:25
  Always fun, not too much to plug.
• 1:10:28
  If you haven't checked us out at Vt Scoop, please do.
• 1:10:32
  Massive shout outs as always to Evan G Watkins and Colby
• 1:10:36
  Crawford. I know he's been on here
• 1:10:38
  recently, but or maybe a couple months ago, but those guys have
• 1:10:43
  been holding down the Fort in the offseason, so go give them a
• 1:10:46
  follow and yeah, come check us out at Vt Scoop.
• 1:10:50
  Offseason's almost done, I think.
• 1:10:51
  What is it? Six or seven more Saturdays till
• 1:10:54
  we're back. Cannot wait.
• 1:10:58
  I think we're easy, man 48 days, 49 days until.
• 1:11:03
  Do anybody got do anybody got NCAA 26?
• 1:11:07
  I got it. I got it.
• 1:11:09
  You got it. Is it better or worse than last
• 1:11:12
  year? It's better.
• 1:11:13
  I mean, it's still a little glitchy at the beginning, but
• 1:11:16
  it's it's got a lot of attributes to make it better
• 1:11:18
  than me. I know Tally was real happy when
• 1:11:19
  Sam and was in that thing. No comment.
• 1:11:23
  We're going to keep this show good, man.
• 1:11:26
  We ain't going into it losing their minds.
• 1:11:29
  I can't tell you, man. I just wonder, I pay attention
• 1:11:33
  to details the older that I get instead of just like gameplay.
• 1:11:39
  So I'm playing with the Hokies, of course, and I'm just
• 1:11:42
  listening to them talk about like Kyron.
• 1:11:44
  And they're talking about, well, you know, last year, if he had
• 1:11:48
  if they had come down with this Hail Mary at Miami, a whole
• 1:11:51
  season might have turned around and been different.
• 1:11:53
  I'm like, how much time do they put into these games, man?
• 1:11:58
  But this is what they're saying on the game.
• 1:11:59
  So if y'all ain't checked it out, I'm pretty sure everybody
• 1:12:02
  then checked it out in the in in the in the chat.
• 1:12:04
  So it's good man, I like it. I like the.
• 1:12:10
  You got to add new king, man, new king.
• 1:12:12
  Oh my God, I thought he was gone this week.
• 1:12:15
  You got to add Robbie. I thought he was gone.
• 1:12:18
  You got to add, Josh. I got a new king.
• 1:12:22
  New king, throw that. Throw that PSID in there.
• 1:12:25
  Yeah, man, y'all put them, put them, put them gamertags in
• 1:12:28
  there, see what we got. They'll get us a game going.
• 1:12:31
  There we go. No new king.
• 1:12:33
  You ain't playing with Miami. Pick another team, buddy.
• 1:12:36
  I don't see that ugly ass orange and green.
• 1:12:39
  Shaw man, Uma Taye, again, we really appreciate you joining us
• 1:12:43
  tonight. And again, that wraps up this
• 1:12:45
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