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Good As Gold...with Scheana Shay · Pursuit of Sassiness

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  Speaker 1: Hi everyone. I am so excited because I'm staring at
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful face. So am I I have my first
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  Speaker 1: friend Sheena on. Thank you so much for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I'm excited. I love this for you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like, as soon as I knew I was doing
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  Speaker 1: a podcast, I had to reach out to you and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I need your help give me some title names.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like you've been one of the few
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  Speaker 1: who have been so supportive in every way possible, and
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  Speaker 1: You've been such a great friend to me. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I have to have Ghina.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. No, I feel honored to be one of your
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  Speaker 2: first guests. So thank you for having me. And I
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  Speaker 2: mean going back and forth with the titles, like there
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  Speaker 2: were so many good titles there was. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how you just finally narrowed it down and picked one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I really we really liked Mother, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I love Mother. It's super strong. But I don't want
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  Speaker 1: it to be only about like parenting. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be about everything. So I kept thinking, pursuit of happiness.
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  Speaker 1: That is my pursuit. But also I feel like now
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  Speaker 1: I have a little sas so it's like pursuit of status.
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  Speaker 2: This past summer, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait for everyone to see. Yeah, do you
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  Speaker 1: remember how we met?
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  Speaker 2: So it was through Brittany, Yes, right, but I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to remember like the first time because y'all have known
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  Speaker 2: each other for a while. But I felt like we
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  Speaker 2: really got to know each other in Vegas a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years ago for her birthday, although I know I
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  Speaker 2: met you prior at like birthday parties, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like before. And that was my
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  Speaker 1: first girl's trip with everybody in Vegas, and that was
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  Speaker 1: a crazy weekend. It was I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, this was pre Janet having a baby. She was
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  Speaker 2: on a full send mode.
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  Speaker 1: That was the first time I hung out with Janet.
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  Speaker 1: So it was like I bonded with everybody. We all
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  Speaker 1: stayed at the same hotel on the same floor. I
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  Speaker 1: stayed with Britney. I had no ice, no idea what
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  Speaker 1: I was getting myself into.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't know you were going to see a bush
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  Speaker 2: that weekend, did ya?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: My god?
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  Speaker 1: The bush. When everyone kept saying the bush, it was like,
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  Speaker 1: what is the bush?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And then yeah, we played truth or Dare and I
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  Speaker 1: quickly learned what the bush was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she literally just sent me a TikTok. I'm like, Janet,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to click and open that. She goes, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's just the thing about bushes. I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: see that, I can read what the title is. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to open it. She's like, you don't like
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  Speaker 2: bush content? No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still have that image in my head where
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  Speaker 1: somebody I think she like, volunteered. She's like, I want
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  Speaker 1: to run.
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  Speaker 2: Around she got on the elliptical.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, completely name And I didn't even know this girl.
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  Speaker 1: I just knew her from like, Hi, my name's Janet,
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  Speaker 1: and that was it. M h. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I remember another time I met you, or like I
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  Speaker 2: was with you. I think it was maybe Kristen's birthday,
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  Speaker 2: but we were at like a Mexican restaurant in the valley.
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  Speaker 2: It was outside, might have been Britney's birthday. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know it was someone's, but I remember Isabella was so little,
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  Speaker 2: like maybe she was two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was probably just under two, but she was
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  Speaker 1: and she still is.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that is the most beautiful child I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen, Like she is just so amazing. I love her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh thank you? Yeah, yeah, she was a handful. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like from the beginning. She learned how to
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  Speaker 1: walk at eight months? What yes, eight months, eight and
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  Speaker 1: a half months.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that does happen.
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  Speaker 1: It does happen. And so she's always been like a runner,
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  Speaker 1: and she used to climb and I used to always
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  Speaker 1: just like not be able to hang out with people
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  Speaker 1: and talk to people because I was always chasing her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom told me that I walked at nine months,
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  Speaker 2: and I've never believed her because I'm like, it's not
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  Speaker 2: a thing. She's like, you walked before you crawled.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I saw you. I was watching TV and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know I saw you on Mass Singer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I know. I couldn't tell anyone about it, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: like it's such a keep your mouth closed sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of shower, Like, how dare you not tell me?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, I did not tell anyone. Actually, though, Janet,
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  Speaker 2: I had put her on my list because my sister
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  Speaker 2: was unavailable one of the days and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: if I need an assistant or someone, and so I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, you're gonna have to sign an NDA
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  Speaker 2: if I tell you this. So she was literally the
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  Speaker 2: only person outside sign I don't know if she signed it,
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  Speaker 2: you're like here, oh my the show sent those out, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but just in case I needed someone to be there
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  Speaker 2: to help assist me with anything, which I didn't end
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  Speaker 2: up needing it, and I went home the first night,
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  Speaker 2: so she didn't get to come that second night with
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  Speaker 2: me anyways. But I literally couldn't tell anyone. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even tell my dad. I called my dad the day
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  Speaker 2: before it aired and I was like, Hey, I know
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  Speaker 2: you have to work tomorrow, just want to let you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I did this thing. And he was like, why
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  Speaker 2: are you barely telling me now? And I'm like, good, Dad,
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  Speaker 2: I love you and like I trust you, but you
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  Speaker 2: also can just be so proud and bragging to your
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  Speaker 2: friendsh Yeah, my daughter's gonna be on mask singer tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like no, no, no, you're not supposed to
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  Speaker 2: tell people before because then you have to unmask and
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing. So there's so much secrecy around it.
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  Speaker 2: That was hard for me because I couldn't tell anyone
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  Speaker 2: about this incredible experience I had. I'm literally turning off
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  Speaker 2: my location when I'm on set.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, how many people have your location?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so I lied to Lalla. I completely made
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  Speaker 2: up something I don't even remember what. I was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be in Palm Springs with her that weekend, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I can't go. I had dressed, rehearsal,
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  Speaker 2: I had vocal lessons, I had all of this stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and so I don't even know what I made up.
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  Speaker 2: But thankfully she wasn't in town and she actually doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have my location, so that was good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to know about the costume because it
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  Speaker 1: was so gorgeous that it seemed so heavy. How did
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  Speaker 1: you wear that entire costume while singing?
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  Speaker 2: I really thought I was going to be claustrophobic when
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  Speaker 2: I put it on for the first time. So I
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  Speaker 2: did which I do with my OCD some exposure therapy
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  Speaker 2: on Halloween, and I dressed up as a skeleton that
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  Speaker 2: zipped all the way over the face. Because that was
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  Speaker 2: like really close to my face I could see.
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  Speaker 1: Through and I didn't even think of that.
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  Speaker 2: I just I was trying to think, like, how am
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  Speaker 2: I going to get more comfortable with doing this. I
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  Speaker 2: have to move around, I have to dance, I have
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  Speaker 2: to sing, I have to perform the outfit itself. I
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  Speaker 2: was able to move in it. We ended up putting
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  Speaker 2: a slit in it because I wanted to do splits
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  Speaker 2: for my second performance, which sadly we didn't get to see.
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  Speaker 2: But I did this for Halloween, so all of tricker
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  Speaker 2: treating and everything, I'm like, walk and I'm just like breathe.
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  Speaker 2: You got this that Honestly, the next day, when I
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  Speaker 2: showed up for dress rehearsal and they put the head on,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, there's so much room
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  Speaker 2: to breathe in this because the skeleton zip up. Puddy
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  Speaker 2: was like on my face that was hard to breathe
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  Speaker 2: inn But I just asked no. Literally, I went full method,
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  Speaker 2: and so once we put it on, it wasn't even
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  Speaker 2: that it was heavy, it just was awkward. I have
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  Speaker 2: a very small head, so I'm like, you guys, like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid if I try to make one little move
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  Speaker 2: it's just gonna fall off. And if I do the splits,
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  Speaker 2: I have to put my hands down and then I
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  Speaker 2: pop out into them and I go, has anyone's head
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  Speaker 2: ever fallen off? And they go one time it did happen,
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  Speaker 2: and they just left it in because they're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's real. That's what happened. You know, that's who it is.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, but I don't want that to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So they had to put a bicycle helmet inside the
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  Speaker 2: actual bat head and crank it so it stayed on
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  Speaker 2: my head.
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  Speaker 1: So all of this for a performance, All of this
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  Speaker 1: is it live?
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  Speaker 2: It's in front of a live studio audience. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not airing live, but there's hundreds of people right
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  Speaker 2: there screaming for me. They have no idea who I am,
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  Speaker 2: and that was such a fun part and aspect of
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  Speaker 2: it is being able to.
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  Speaker 1: Perform and not no one knows who is exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not on the bar singing good as gold, Like
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  Speaker 2: this was something so insanely out of my comfort zone.
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  Speaker 2: I was so proud of myself for doing it that
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm so ready for night too. Like
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  Speaker 2: we just crushed that I did miss one of my
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  Speaker 2: choreography turns, and that just for my OCD.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, we'll talk about the
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  Speaker 1: OCD a second.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, but no, it was such an incredible experience
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  Speaker 2: and I was really proud of myself. I was just
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  Speaker 2: I was so bummed that I went home first I
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  Speaker 2: felt like just kind of was a little depressed and sad.
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  Speaker 2: The next day, I took summer out of schools, like,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to Palm Springs. I just like want to
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  Speaker 2: go and take my family and get away.
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  Speaker 1: And you're competitive, We're totally We're both very competitive my
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  Speaker 1: whole life. We go all out whenever we get like
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  Speaker 1: assigned to do something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it worked out the timing that I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have her go to school that day because norovirus broke
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  Speaker 2: out at her school that week and so yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: she like totally missed it because I was like, you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to school tomorrow, We're going to Palm Springs.
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  Speaker 2: So it worked out for her.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that was epic, And I think, did
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  Speaker 1: you get a tattoo?
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  Speaker 2: I did? Oh God?
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  Speaker 1: Sheina? And that going to be in book number.
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  Speaker 2: Two maybe, Yeah, I've got to do. I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a sleeve.
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  Speaker 1: So your book, Yes, when is it coming out?
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  Speaker 2: July twenty second. It's available for pre order right now
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  Speaker 2: on my good sidebook dot com. There are signed copies
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  Speaker 2: available as well.
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  Speaker 1: How many did you sign? Actually, I don't know. If
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  Speaker 1: I saw you went live? I did and Isabella's wanted
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  Speaker 1: to watch, so she was watching, and I tucked in
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  Speaker 1: Isabella and I say, Hi, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't looking as much at the comments because I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to sign them, and I realized I'm good
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  Speaker 2: at multitasking, but trying to answer questions while signing them
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  Speaker 2: it didn't work so well. So I'm like, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to do another live, but I'm just gonna take my
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  Speaker 2: time signing them because I was trying to get through
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  Speaker 2: as many as.
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  Speaker 1: Possible in Summer signed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are three special Summer moon editions that
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  Speaker 2: will go into a book somewhere. But I got through
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  Speaker 2: a little over three hundred last night, so wow, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I have, like, I don't know, seventeen hundred more, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: in the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: How long did it take you to write that?
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  Speaker 2: The whole process was over a year, but the real
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  Speaker 2: bones of the book and writing the majority of it
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  Speaker 2: we did in like four months.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a long process finding the right person
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  Speaker 2: to collaborate with and then being like, no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to and then okay, yes, this person and then
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of this process that I write about
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  Speaker 2: in the book because this was all so new to me.
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  Speaker 2: I know if I ever do a second book, what
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  Speaker 2: I would do differently, what I loved about this process,
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  Speaker 2: But it was a lot, But I'm very proud of it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just also nervous for it to come out because
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  Speaker 2: I don't really hold.
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  Speaker 1: Back and I know that feeling. Yeah, So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we had lunch recently and you're like, Hey, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you about a little chapter in my book,
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  Speaker 1: and when you told me, I was incredibly surprised. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: proud of you at the same time for being so
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  Speaker 1: open and vulnerable in your book. So I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: read it, and I'm for everybody to read it.
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  Speaker 2: I know me too. It's one of the biggest things
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  Speaker 2: that've I did so many things in my career just
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  Speaker 2: recently that I'm like, wow, like mass singer, like that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the biggest things I've ever done, like a
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  Speaker 2: network show like that, But then writing a book, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the biggest things in my career
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  Speaker 2: I've ever done. And they just all kind of came
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  Speaker 2: together around the same time.
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  Speaker 1: So I know, you're very inspiring. Like honestly, out of everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like You're such a go getter and you are
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  Speaker 1: constantly multitasking and just doing so many different things. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you do it? And I just watch you
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  Speaker 1: and I don't get it. And You're like, I'm in
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  Speaker 1: New York today, I'm in La tomorrow, I'm in Like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I was just in Puerto Rico. And
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  Speaker 2: then I go back to New York. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: Palm Springs this weekend. Coachella stagecoach Summer's birthday.
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  Speaker 1: In between speaking of birthdays, Yes, your birthday is coming up.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited, are you. Yes, you look amazing and
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  Speaker 1: you're about that forty years old.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you?
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  Speaker 1: Can I say that, Yes you can.
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  Speaker 2: It's I think it's google able. No, it's a big
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  Speaker 2: one coming up. And I felt like about six seven
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  Speaker 2: months ago, I was so excited for it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't wait to be forty. I
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  Speaker 2: just felt very energized about planning it all. And then
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  Speaker 2: the things that I wanted to do we're just not
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  Speaker 2: really coming together. I wanted to go to Mexico, and
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: now Brock is in an in between visa things. He's
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: applying to be a citizen right now. So I was like,
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want you really leaving the
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: country right now with just how things are. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: let's not do Mexico. And then he's like, just do
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  Speaker 2: a girls trip. So I'm like, okay, we'll do a
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  Speaker 2: girls trip. And then I was like, no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do anything, and we have to be in
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  Speaker 2: Vegas the weekend after, so I'm like, maybe we'll go
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  Speaker 2: to Vegas. And I've literally planned absolutely nothing and it's
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  Speaker 2: in a few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you had an epic thirty ninth birthday.
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  Speaker 2: Right and that's what I feel like. I kind of
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  Speaker 2: already did it. I'm like, how are we going to
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  Speaker 2: do better than last year? Smearnoff threw me the best party.
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  Speaker 1: They did at the best house and at the best.
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  Speaker 2: Food, the best drinks, Like it was so good, it
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  Speaker 2: was so fun that I don't know how we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do that better. I wanted to try and recreate
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  Speaker 2: our welcome party that we had for our wedding, and
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  Speaker 2: we did this like massive white party in Mexico at
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  Speaker 2: an all inclusive resort. That was my original vision and
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  Speaker 2: then now it's just that didn't come together.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we don't know what we're doing for birthday,
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  Speaker 1: no idea, Okay, we have a couple of weeks. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many birthdays.
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  Speaker 2: I know, and I swear with I guess, well, Isabelle
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  Speaker 2: as a year older? But I know you had her
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  Speaker 2: like write COVID. Yes, but I felt like the COVID
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  Speaker 2: baby boom. All the babies came spring of twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Because right now everybody's eight week or me. Every weekend,
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  Speaker 2: I know there's a birthday party.
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  Speaker 1: This weekend is Crus's birthday.
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  Speaker 2: I know my mom is going to take Summer because
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  Speaker 2: I'll be at Coachella. No, you see, I never make
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  Speaker 2: it to Cruise's birthday. I'm like Brittany, if it's on Coachella,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be there. But then Summer's birthday
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  Speaker 2: is on stage Coach.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I just do Disneyland for me. It's
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  Speaker 1: like kind of our ritual now I've been doing it
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  Speaker 1: ever since she's too. It was like, yeah, we just
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  Speaker 1: do a cake at home, a really nice cake, whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want, and then we go to Disneyland and you
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  Speaker 1: get presents.
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  Speaker 2: And we're smart. I started with a massive party for
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  Speaker 2: her first birthday, which was really more for the parents,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that was for me and kind of so
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  Speaker 2: was the second one. Then by the third one she
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  Speaker 2: has friends from dance class and whatnot, and so we
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  Speaker 2: did that one last year and now this year, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you're getting two parties because we have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cousins and friends with kids, and well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to focus on your birthday since it's such
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  Speaker 1: a big one. I know, yeah, I mean you've done
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  Speaker 1: so much in the last ten fifteen years. I didn't
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: know about Pizza Pizza Girl, My gosh, I was like,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: what is this to watch this? Really?
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a cute Disney show, Like it's something that
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I love too that I have Jonas, Pizza Girl and
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Mass Singer for like my daughter and her friends were like, Okay,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: well you're not going to watch The Valley. You know,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: you do not need to go back and watch Vandawumbrules,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: but you can watch Jonas, you can watch Mass Singer.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I actually want to watch that with Yazabella. I was like,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't know this. What else do I not know about?
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: GINI did nine or two one zero back in the day. Really,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I was a featured extra on Entourage for years.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Like, wait, I've seen that show a million times.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I used to work in the office.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: When Ari in the later seasons moved into his new office,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I was at one of the desks, like every time
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: they shot there, I was one of the regular Oh
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: my got it.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home tonight and watch.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: It on the first one I ever did was Vinnie
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Chase's birthday party on the Queen Mary with all of
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the Victoria's Secret model I just watched that up and
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I'm right there in the background.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I really Oh oh, I got that say.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: It was like one of my first regular side gigs.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: When I first moved out here, I had an agent
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: who got me a model rate which was higher than SAG.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I got all of my SAG vouchers already, and I
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: got to just go and hang out with the boys
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: all of the time. Filmed an earth cafe like shops
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: on Sunset.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I always talk about that show because it literally is
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: all of la and I'm like, I've been there, I've
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: been there. I love it all.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you how many episodes I did,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: but there's a lot.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. Yeah, Aaron and I actually just watched
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the first episode of vander Pump Rules No way, Yeah,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: why because I just I was like, you know what,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: let's just watch an episode. I was like, I want
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to watch an episode. I want to watch a reunion,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: like I want to know more about my friends now,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Like why not? And so we watched it. I was like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: oh my god, baby, Sheena.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: My voice was so high back then, Like I genuinely
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I went to the doctor last year because I worried.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why is my voice you know more rascal
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and you age and your voice does change. But whenever
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I see a scene from an old episode, I'm like, wow,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: my voice was really high back then.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: So is it weird to watch yourself from season one?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It's weird because I don't remember a lot of it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: So when I watch something back like it will come
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: back to me and I'm like, oh my god, I
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: remember that. But I genuinely don't like to go back
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: and watch old episodes because I'm say, you know, in
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: a good place with Stossy now, But then I watch
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: back the way that she was with me then, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, you know, I don't like having those
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: memories about you, Like I like this version of Stossy,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: you know, like the mom who our kids will play
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: together and whatnot. And so I don't really enjoy going
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: back and watching nix it just like it brings up
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: old feelings and.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, bad memories, a little.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Bit of past trauma and relationships that I'm like, Season
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: six could just disappear from the face of the earth
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and I would not be sad. I never saw an
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: episode from that season.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Should I or should I not watch? Watch?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: It's really entertaining.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm gonna we're gonna watch just do it?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Do it? Yeah?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Right as well? Right like now or never? Let's do
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it now? Yeah, okay. And so I know that you
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: went through different relationships and obviously for me, I went
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: through a divorce in my first season.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: It really is. Now that I look back, I'm like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: what was I thinking, Like, I don't even know. I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: think I went into it just a little naive and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: thought I could hide it and like it was gonna
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: be okay, And I thought I could just do that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: after the fact of filming. But no, no, no, You've
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: got to show it all. Yeah, I got to show
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: it all and so now you know, obviously I've been
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: with Aaron for over a year, and so you might
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: see him pop in soon. And it's like, how did
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you feel going through relationships on the show?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like by I mean like the second, third, fourth,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: it was like it was kind of all I knew.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Once I joined the show. Shane and I had been
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: together for a little over a year. We both decided
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: this was something we wanted to do together, and so
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I only know reality TV is starting in a relationship.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And then you know, we had five seasons together and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: then I went straight into another relationship. Would not recommend
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that to anyone. And then I had two single seasons,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and I thought that was going to be so fun.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I talk about this a bit in my book too,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: But when I was single, no one else was single,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: so it wasn't so fun. It was actually quite lonely.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And one of those seasons I was also freezing my eggs.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And so then we have what a year and a
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: half off because of COVID, and we come back and
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I have yet again a new boyfriend and a baby.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So I've really been through it all on this show
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: since I was like twenty six it's crazy that now
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: there is a vander pump Roules season twelve. It's just
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: not following our lives anymore, especially myself, Katie and Sandoval,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: who have been on every single episode since the beginning.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Mixed feelings. I'm feeling excited for the new kids at Serta,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you know, get their shot and their opportunities and all
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: of that, because I know what it did for all
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of us. But at the same time, it's weird when
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I've done that for so long and now I'm not.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: But I feel like the Valley is such a better
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: fit and makes more sense. But it is weird that,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: you know, this huge part of my life is over,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: but it's not. It's just changing a little bit. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I felt like it was time to be honest.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And it seems like everybody was in a completely different path,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Like some people were getting divorced, some people were single,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: some people have kids. Like, yeah, you guys didn't have
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: as much in common anymore.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just was feeling a bit forced towards the end.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: It's like, this isn't who I would go on a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: trip with, you know, But when you're filming a show,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Obviously you're not gonna go to Hawaii with your ex husband.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: But when you're filming a show, you go to Hawaii
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: with your ex husband. So what I it's it's yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: it's a crazy world that we're in. There's nothing normal
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: about it. You know, to just put your lives on
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: camera and then it's like, okay, you lived your life,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: but oh no, no, now you go to watch it back.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Now you've got to have the whole world judge you.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And it's even crazier now because when we started Instagram
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: was just starting out. Twitter was already around, but that's
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: kind of nice it was, and so now it's so different,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: you know, where it's like you can't post anything without
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a million people having opinions. The first few seasons, I
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: miss the those days and when we actually all like
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: had to work together to pay our bills. Like I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: genuinely miss working at the restaurant. Sometimes. I know that
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: sounds crazy, but sir felt like a family. It was
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a really fun place to work. It was fun to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: sneak our sangria and go hide it in the bathroom
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and we were all pulling tips, so it was like
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: we were a team.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And that's what you do when you're in your twenties.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: You're struggling back, you're trying to make it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I remember some of the girls would smuggle rolls of
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: toilet paper in their purse because they couldn't afford toilet
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: paper at home. Like we were Baroke when the show
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: started splitting like a five dollars foot long and stealing
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: toilet paper. And look at you, now, I didn't steal
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the toilet paper.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: You have multiple houses. Yes, you bought a house a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: year ago in the valley.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: That you sold me.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, you were And I say this, You're the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: best client I've ever worked with. And I learn a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: lot about people every day because I had to deal
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: with them. And like, you're making such a big decision
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: in your life to purchase the house, and so there
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: can be a lot of emotions, but you were very
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: like clear decide, like this is what I like. Yeah,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you walked in and you fell in love.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: We just knew it. Like the first house that we
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: looked at from the outside esthetically was more my vibe.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I loved the backyard, the adu, the long driveway, all
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: of that. I was like, this is what I pictured
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: my LA house to look like. But then when we
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: got inside, I'm like, this is kind of funky, Like
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: there was no actual laundry room, there was no pantry.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: The rooms were really small and weird, and I'm like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: but then there's this massive attic, which I loved. It
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: was so not la I'm like, wait, this is cool.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: But the second we walked into my current house, you
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: walked in first. I remember I was parking my car
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and you came out and you were just like the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: bones of this house. Like you're like, you're you're gonna
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: love it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I fell in love with house, but I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: like to get your opinion first, Like I don't want to,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you know, push you towards one way or the other.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: But I walked in, I was like, this is awesome.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very similar set up to Britney's house. It's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: kind of similar to what Katie and Schwartz's house used
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: to be. And I always loved their houses. And right
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: when I walked in, it was just so open. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: loved how the staircase and all that, just like the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: openness of it. Yes, but the thing that like sold
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: me right away where the plantation shutters. Because my house
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that I had in San Diego had those and I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: just loved that. And so right when I walked in,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, every window has these. Yeah,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and the kitchen island, I still haven't done it yet.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I haven't even done a house simaren party. I've lived
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: in there for over a.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Year now, but you have pizza parties, have everything.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: No, totally, but when I saw the kitchen island, I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: was like, the shark hooterie we could do on this,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: which I still haven't done anything to do, but I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: love it. It's great, it's home.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were incredible. You were It was like easy
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and smooth. What made you pick us as an agent?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I love hanging out with you and you're one of
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: my favorite people. And I was like, look, if I'm
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: gonna be doing walk through inspections any of that, like,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I want it to be with someone who's energy I
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: really like. And so it was easy. And then I
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: mean with you came Jresse, which whatever, but you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and I.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Remember you were like I have a lot of agent friends,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but I want to work with you, and like I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: really appreciate.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just love you. We hit it off
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in Vegas. We've been close ever since, and I was like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: there's no one else I want to sell me my house.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've never had inspections where you're like, bring
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Isabella and.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bring the kids. Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So we've really gotten close in the last couple years,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I think, especially because of the girls, right.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're like exactly a year apart. But
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Summer is so good with older girls, and she picks
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: up from them and learns from them. And Isabella's so
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: great with her.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she always wanted it or she wants to baby sister,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: so she likes little kids, and their energy together matches
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: really well. I mean they have their little moments for
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: a second, but overall they're really good. Yeah, they're with
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: each other.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Four and five years old, all though they're going on
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: fourteen and fifteen.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: What I can't stop picturing, which I'm like, Shina, you
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: are so OCD. I didn't even know this about you. Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you have Summer's room and then you have a playroom
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and it's perfect, and oh it's always immaculate, perfect. Yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm so confused because Isabella's I think more like me.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of messy. I have to work on it
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: all the time, and she like she's done with the toy,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: she just throws it and after thirty minutes in her room,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like he would have a heart attack to look at
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: what her room looks like. I'm trying to teach her,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: but actually I love going to your house because I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was like, this is how it's done, and you're actually
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: like a positive role model and summer just like how
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you guys are, but you're in incredibly clean.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was the thing with and nothing against this.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It's how I used to live in my condo. But
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: buying a new house, I was like, I don't want
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to walk in the door and it to look like
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: a toddler lives here. Let's keep that stuff separate because
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: in my condo, which most people's houses are like this,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: you walk in, you've got like, you know, the playpen
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: or like the area for the toys.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And all of that, and with all the different colors, yes.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: The primary colors, I can't so esthetically I'm like, okay,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I want a lot of white, which is crazy because
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I have a black cat and a toddler. So yeah,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I really just wanted it to look pretty and keep
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: all the stuff upstairs. And it worked out that right
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: under our stairs, there's that little storage like nook room
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that we keep all of our stuff in there. That
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: room is a disaster. Just so you know, my mom
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: asked me today, she was like, have you cleaned up
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: her butterfly room yet? And I was like, no, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't know. I haven't been in
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: there in the last few days. And she's like, Shina,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, not a priority.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: So you're like this with everything or just your home.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I try to be like it with everything. If you
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: saw my car right now, it's an absolute disaster.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Just so, speaking of the girls, I always smile at
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you because back then she was just like a lot
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of work for me and she didn't get a lot
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of sleep, and I was just tired all the time.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm good with one kid, and I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: felt like you and I were always on that same.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Same one and done like, don't even try to convince me.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And everybody else is like I'm on three four kids,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And we would just look at each other like that
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: seemed miserable, very hard. Yeah, yeah, but what about now?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: So we have taken one baby step or I mean, honestly,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a big step for me. But we
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: got rock sperm tested, and we have He picked up
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: my frozen eggs last week from the old facility and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: transported them to my doctor's new facility. Okay, that's as
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: far as we've gotten, because I worry now that we've
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: gotten his sperm tested and we found out that it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: just like five star, top notch, best the doctor's ever seen.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: It's a plus plus, so annoying. He'll get you pregnant
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: just looking at you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: He did twice, and so knowing that now, I worry
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: if we fertilize all sixteen eggs, what if we have
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: like three or more perfect embryos, I could potentially, in
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a year or two be convinced to do twins, to
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: put two in a surrogate and see what happens. Okay, however,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: if there are three or more, like, how am I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: gonna pick one or two? If they're like, oh, there's
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: two boys and one girl or two girls one boy,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna pick one over the other. Like that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: where for me and my OCD, I'm like, I'm not
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: there yet mentally. So my doctor was like, how about
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: we do this? We just do five eggs at a time,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He's like, obviously I would recommend doing them all at once,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: but if you would feel better about that, what are
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the chances that we even get more than one out
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: of five? You know, it's like some of them won't
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: even survive the thin process. And then once you fertilize
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: genetically test all of that, if we go out of five,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's a better shot, and then maybe none
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: of those are good. Then we do the next five,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: and then we do the last six.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: But okay, so I have a lot of eggs.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Sixteen, which honestly isn't a lot. I did two rounds
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: of egg freezing. I got nine the first time and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: seven the second time.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: You're teaching me because I don't know anything about this.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't either until I did it, and then I
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: was literally getting ready to do a third round because
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to have as many as possible because
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: my AMH levels, which is like your hormone level, were
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: really low. So normally for my age at the time
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I think I was thirty two thirty three should have
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: been between one point four and four point two, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I was at zero point two six. Okay, so basically,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the chance of getting pregnant naturally was going to be
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: close to him. Pop possible, but not impossible because after
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: six seven months of not not trying, but after I
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: met Brock and we're in the pandemic and you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: there's not much else to do. Yeah, I got pregnant.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And the doctor told me it was probably from freezing
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: my egg twice the year before that. That kind of
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: woke up my.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Body, so you were surprised.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I was so shocked. I remembered the moment where Brock
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: was in San Diego at the gym. We're on FaceTime.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I'm in the bathroom and I was like, hold on,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I'll be right back. I'm just gonna pee on this
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: really quick. And he was like, what, you're being so
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: casual about this. I'm like, dude, I've peed on like
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: twenty of these in the past. It's never been I'm like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: just for my sanity, so I can like go have
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a white claw and smoke some weed. Like I'm just
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: gonna make sure. And so I do it. I pee
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: on it and I'm like staring at it. That's how
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: you find literally, and he's like what and I'm like, uh,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: oh my god. And it has like the two lines
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was, and I was just like, there's
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: there's no effine way, there's no way. I was in
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: pure shock because I didn't think that I could even
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: get pregnant, and I've never had a pregnant a positive
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: pregnancy test, and so I went back to the store
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and like got a different brand, the one that says pregnant,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: not pregnant. So I'm like, maybe the lines are yeah, whatever, pregnant.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god. Then the next day I
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: make an appointment to go get my blood work done
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: just to like make sure pregnant.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And then then you believed it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Then I believed it, and then sadly, a few weeks later,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I have a miscarriage. So it was just so many
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: emotions where and hormones and everything where it's like I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: didn't think I could get pregnant, then I'm pregnant, now
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not pregnant, and it just so quickly this all happened.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It didn't pass on its own, so I had to
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: have the DNC procedure, which was the most painful thing
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I've ever gone to physically and emotionally. And after that,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: my doctor was like, you know, the best chance you're
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: going to have this procedure also wakes up your body
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: in a different way. He goes try again in one month,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: have one ovulation cycle, and then try again. And I'm like,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: first of all, I've only known this guy for like
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: seven months. We're in a pandemic. Neither of us really
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: have a job right now, Like we should not be
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: trying to actively have a baby. So I told Brock.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I was gonna freeze eggs.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: We even that early in our relationship talked about making
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: embryos because I'm like, we already have my eggs, so
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: if things don't work out, then we don't use those.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: And now I just feel differently about that too. But
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: after I went through that, I told Brock when it
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: was that time I had just ovulated, I'm like, hey,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: just so you know, this is the week, like we
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: either gotta be very careful don't have sex because it's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: very likely I could get pregnant. We had just moved
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: into San Diego. We wake up, it's a beautiful day.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: The waves are crashing, the sun is shining. We christen
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm here, I'm in the moment. I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: love this.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful day, and all of a sudden he was
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: like wait. I was like, you just got me pregnant,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: didn't you. And He's like no, there's no way. And
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well let's just say you did. I'm
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: minutes pregnant. Let's go across the street to like our
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: favorite sushi place. We had sushi, we had a couple
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: of sake bombs. I took a hit a weed and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, now I'm just gonna pretend like I'm pregnant.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just tell myself that. And so then for
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: three weeks until I had the test that said pregnant again.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: If you were already in your mind, thatt Hour's pregnant, yes,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: like you got me pregnant this you manifested this, by
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we were getting ready a few weeks later
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: to go to Sedona for my sister's birthday, and I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: was like, I can't go until I know, because we're
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be off roading, we're gonna be mountain climbing, doing
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: all of these things that I probably shouldn't do if
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm pregnant. And the day before we left, I took
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: a test and it was like as early as it
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: could be detected, and it said I was pregnant. Wow.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: So it was just crazy because I was like I
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: knew it that one time and from then on, but
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: like those three weeks it was such a mindful because
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm treating my body as if I'm pregnant.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not drinking, I'm not smoking, I'm not eating cheese,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: sushi anything. It was a couple hours after went and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: got the sushi and I'm like, there's no way, Like
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I'm okay if it's a few hours. But I was
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: so psychotic my entire pregnancy because COVID first of all,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: but also just having a miscarriage. I was so afraid
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: of everything. I was afraid of everyone and everything. I'm like,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: who my friends were hanging out with. I'm like, if
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be hanging out with that person, then you're
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: not coming this weekend, or you have to test before wow.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Because I was just worried that anything was gonna kill
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: my baby. I had to get on progesterone just to
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: have her survive because my levels were still not high enough.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I actually thought because my sister went through something very
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: similar and I watched her for you know a decade
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: have so many issues that I actually thought like it
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: would be very hard for me, but that luckily, like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: that was one of the easiest things I had to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: go through. I feel like I've had so many difficult
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: teas in life, but like, actually getting pregnant was the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: easiest thing. It was a one time try. Yeah, we
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: were going on a trip to Italy and I was like, hey,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's time. We've been married for almost a year, like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: let's do it. We did it one time, and I
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: got pregnant boom. And I had no problems during my
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: pregnancy and it was just like same, yeah, really good.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Other than back pain, I didn't get sick, and I
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: had We had a healthy baby, beautiful baby girl.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: She's perfect.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it's summer.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: The worst thing in my pregnancy, I just had acid reflux.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I had like really gnarly like I would wake up
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and I'm like, oh,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it was like right here.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Especially when you're nine months pregnant. Yeah, yeah, but so
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you might do it again.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I yes, I might have someone else carry the baby
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: for me, because now that I am turning forty, as
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: we've said, I got help syndrome. After I had her
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: like postpartum immediately they had to transfer me to the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: high risk I see. It was really scary, so a
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: high chance of miscarriage and help syndrome again if I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: were to try and get pregnant in my forties, and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I just don't want to take that chance. I don't
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: want to have to have a c section, deliver early,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: worry that the baby's lungs aren't fully developed, worry that
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have another pregnancy loss. They are just
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: too many things that could go wrong that I'm not
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: willing to chance. So we would have to go a
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: surrogate route just to be extra safe. But it's crazy
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: because in twenty eighteen, I did Hollywood Medium with Tyler
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Henry and I was thinking about freezing my eggs around then,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and anytime I had a psychic reading, I would always
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: ask like, what do you see future love interest babies? Da,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: da da, And he said he saw me having a
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: child in an unconventional and I was like, that's crazy
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you say that because I was thinking about freezing my
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: eggs right now, and he was like, you should do that,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't know, like exactly what the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: path is. But that's just one thing I see, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: who would know that. You know, I would have a
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: natural pregnancy but then have to go an unconventional route
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the second round.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm a true believer in psychics.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we talked about that. Yeah, I want
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to set you up with one of mine.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I would love that little more than anything. Yeah, especially now. Yes,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I want to know so much about my future. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: am now open to the idea of having another child
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: in the future, not now. It's not the time that
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like once everything settles totally and you were
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: one and done with him, I was, Yeah, I was.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine. And he actually, Jesse really wanted a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: second child, and he used to push me and push me,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and at the same time we were fighting a lot.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: So my mom that was like her one advice. She
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: was like, do whatever you want to me. She's like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: do not have a second child, and you like, just
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: promise me that because he wants to trap you even
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: more and it's going to be more difficult, So do
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: not have it until you guys are in a healthy,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: better relationship. And so even though like at the time,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I wanted Isabella to have a sibling. I just didn't
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: feel that it was the right time for me or
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: with the right person again, which sounds odd to say, but.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you knew, and thankfully you didn't have another
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: with him, you know, And now you can have another
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: with the right person.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm so excited, and I don't.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Mind a big gap, to be honest. My sister and
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: are twelve years apart, and we're so close.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I it's funny because my brother's twelve years older and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: my sister is nine years older, and I love it
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm so close to them. But like, even now,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I just worry about Isabella because she wants to play
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: with somebody now. But it isn't a big deal.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Over to play with summer. You have friends.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it isn't a big deal all. Yeah, And I
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: think it'll be easier for me because she'll be however old,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: seventy eighty nine. She can help me.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Holy try and plan it around the same time.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Imagine. I would love that, right, And I don't see
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: anything wrong with having a how do you call it surrogate? Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: not at all, especially if you have health issues. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people who've done that, and I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: think that's amazing, like having children, totally funny. I just
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: saw an interesting article about Seth Rogan and he was
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in the studio with his co star Catherine Hahn, and
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: he was talking about how much he loves vander Pump Rules,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: and he was saying he really emphasizes with Sheena the most.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I think out of everyone on the show, Sina's made
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: some bad mistakes over the years. She's chosen the wrong
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: guy a number of times. She just had things publicly
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: perhaps she shouldn't have said. She's maybe said some things
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: about her friends that she wishes she could take back publicly.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I do think ultimately Sheena's heart is in the right place,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and that is out of all of the people on
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the show, something to be said. And so I like Sheena,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Lady Gaga and Seth Brogan, Oh my god,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I'm on, that's amazing.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: You know what's so funny is the other day on Saturday,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I was at PINNs the bowling Alley, Yeah, and we
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: were there for a school birthday party and this woman,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't even remember her name, she
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: comes up to me in the arcade and she's one
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: of Seth's best friends, and she tried to FaceTime his
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: wife because she's like, oh my god, I want to
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: surprise him with you. And then I was like, well,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I'll be here for a while, so if you get
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a hold of them, like come back and find me.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: And she never did.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, how does that feel to have like
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga and a lister want to hang out with
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you and is so excited to be with you.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Still can't get over it, to be honest, like, I'm
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: so excited.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I can't get o'bella. I cannot believe that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: No, So Seth I met, Oh my gosh, when was this?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: It was probably ten years ago. It was like twenty fifteen.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I think we did a little spoof thing together. It
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: was vander pump Rules Meets the Night Before. It was
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a movie that he did then, and there were four
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: of the cast members who came as if they were
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: going to like apply it, sir, and we filmed this
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: whole thing. It was me, JACKX, Kristen and Peter and
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: then the forecast from the movie. And there's a part
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: where Seth and I are literally singing the theme song together,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: like as a ballad. Oh, it was so fun, Like
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I will just go back and watch that randomly. That
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: was one of the most amazing things that I've ever done.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: That had to do with vandr Pump Rules because Seth
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Rogan has been one of my favorites forever. It's so
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: funny and to get to act with him, but as
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: myself it was so fun so the fact that he
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: said that I got to hit him up get into
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: some Shnanians do.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's ask you some questions. If you could trade
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: lives with any other celebrity for a day, who would
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it be.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Ooh, I would love to get into a Kardashian life
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: for a day. I think Chloe Kardashian. Honestly, She's someone
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I want to start modeling my life around. Like, what's
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for. I would say Chloe Kardashian
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: because she gets up at like four or five am
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: every day, works out, makes her kids lunch, takes them
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to school, still is a boss ass bitch, has a podcast,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: like does all of the things. But I just I
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: love her work ethic and her commitment, and I feel
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: like I need more of that in my life. So
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to go into summer's next school year,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: modeling it around, like what would Chloe, do you know?
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I want to get up early. I want to start
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: are working out at the beginning of my day because
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: once it's noon one, two pm, it's like I still
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: have to work out and it's so hard, whereas if
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: you just do it right when you wake up. So
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I think I would like to be in her shoes
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: for a day to see, like, how the f do
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you actually do that? Because it's incredible.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's just say, hey, Chloe Kardashian, if you're
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: hearing this, let's hang out. Yes, As a mom with
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a busy schedule, what are your go to self care
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: routines to keep your mental health in check?
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Ooh, go to? I do love getting a facial me too.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Our girl Kayla is incredible. So that's definitely a self
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: care thing I like to do.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I did one yesterday. Yeah, I really need it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Looks so good.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you. It's like two things in one. It's like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I get really nice skin and it's like very good
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: for my mental health.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, and every time I go to Palm Springs, I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: have this incredible person who comes over to give me
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: a massage. She stretches me out, and that's just like.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And I have somebody that always comes to my my house,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's perfect. I get a massage right
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: before Ben and it's just so relaxing. Yeah, we're very
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: spaw girls, I know, totally.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Really, that's what I'm thinking. I wanted, like, if we'll
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: do a party on my actual birthday and then a
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: spa day the next day to just with a.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Psychic Yes, ooh wait, I love that me too.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I've been hearing and reading a lot about Lisa vander
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Pump recently expressing how you know, she doesn't talk to
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: everybody in the cast, and some people should be grateful
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: for her because she created a lot of people's careers
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and whatnot.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of us had careers, we were
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: already on the path to achieving. But also I think
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: it's a two way street, you know. I mean, vander
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Pump Rules was so successful not just because of Lisa Vanderpump.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: It was because of an incredible cast from the first
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: season who people really resonated with and wanted to follow
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: our journey. So, I mean, I'm incredibly grateful to Bravo,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you know, for giving me this opportunity and for seeing
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: something in me for eleven seasons as a story to tell,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: and now that story continuing on the Valley. I will
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: always be grateful to the network.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Said, Yeah, well, I'm very excited because season two airs
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: in just.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: A couple of days. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I'm bummed that I wasn't around the first couple of
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: weeks because I was traveling and I missed some really
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: fun parties. But I'm like, I can't wait to watch.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: But I literally had to call you and text you
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: all the time. I'm like, this happened, and this happened,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and yeah again, You've just been like so supportive, especially
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: because like this is kind of new to me, and
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: just I was dealing with a lot and I feel
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: like having that support. Dealing with you know, different personalities
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and difficult people can be very stressful at times, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: just to have you by my side has been amazing.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I love you. I ride or die for you.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I am always Team Michelle and no one can change that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Oh I love you too.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I love you. Thanks