Latest / Conspiracy! The Show / Why the Right Thinks Liberals Worship Satan

Transcript

Why the Right Thinks Liberals Worship Satan · Conspiracy! The Show

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Destroy winch inurance.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: I'm a chest both get at your things.
• 0:16
  Speaker 3: Wait, hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm your host,
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: Adam Todd Brown joining me is gasco host is a design.
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks for being back this.
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: We just did an episode about the New World Order,
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: and now we're back talking about one of the one
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: of the aspects of the New World Order, the people
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: pushing the New World Order.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just sort of we're we're putting a magnifying glass.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: And one of the groups who is associated with this conspiracy.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: They're associated with it.
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: They're I feel like when you hear conservatives or people
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: on the right say liberals love Satan.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this group is the reason why.
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: Oh I just thought they assume that because like anyone
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: who's not religious, that's sort of a.
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: Well, Satan's cool is part of the problem. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: liberals are cool, so it would stand a reason that
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: liberals would like Satan.
• 1:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: But this, Yeah, this group, this is weird. This is
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: a weird story, not a story like I've just I've
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: never heard of this group until I started looking into
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: the New World Order for this podcast.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: How widely accepted are they as pushing this this at
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: a world level.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: They are a facet of the United Nations, like they
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: are at the highest officially officially, uh, the U.
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: We'll get into it in more detail, but the UN
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: has a meditation room that this this group runs the
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: meditation room.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: And they are also the uh.
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: Kind of like official unofficial publishing wing of the un
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: official unofficial They like they're a non They're an NGO,
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: a non governmental organization.
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is how.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: The Federal Reserve.
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the Federal is the Federal Reserve classified as that?
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, they would you know.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think classified as an NGO, but I was,
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: I was just throwing a little bit of shade, you know,
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: at the at the Federal Reserve, for.
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: Well, it does private a little private, you know. Yeah,
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: it does tie into this theory a whole lot. Yeah,
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: the fact that the Federal Reserve controls all of our
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: money but they're a private bank. Yeah, and we're all
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: just like, okay, okay, I don't know what that means.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, it's fine.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: They're not publicized as an NGO because that would confuse people.
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I even started hearing the phrase
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: NGO or that acronym until pretty recently, like a few
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: years ago, but it just means non government organization. Yeah,
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: and lucis Trust. That's who we're talking about today. I'm
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: formerly known as the Lucifer Trust, the Lucifer Publishing Company,
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: which that's subtle. Yeah like that that that part feels weird.
• 3:32
  Speaker 4: Well, Lucifer also means venus.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: Or bringer of light. Yeah, things like that.
• 3:37
  Speaker 4: I and information knowledge I have.
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: There's an episode of this podcast where I talk about
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: my I think it's my theory. Yeah, that science might
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: just be or Satan might just be a metaphor for
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: science because science is kind of the big enemy of religion.
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at the metaphor or the well yeah, yeah,
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: the tree of knowledge, right, So Satan encouraging eating from
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: this tree of knowledge, getting more information, leaving ignorance, which is.
• 4:09
  Speaker 4: Bliss right, so to speak.
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: So that's why it's just like, well, you know, it's
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: this really a diabolical organization. If they're promoting knowledge, what's
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: the agenda?
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: That's Yeah, that's the whole thing.
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: Like this this kind of comes down to who who
• 4:25
  Speaker 3: do you really think is the enemy? Because there's not
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: like by the time we get to the end of this,
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: there's not really that much question about whether or not
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: this group is pushing the idea of a new World order.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: They absolutely are at.
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: An economic level, you think, because it seems like at
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: a spiritual level.
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's the thing, like when when we'll get into globalists. Also,
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: when people talk about globalists, they're sort of talking about
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: these people but only on a religious and kind of
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: spiritual level.
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, and also kind of on a racial level, but
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: not really economically. And I know there are people out
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: there who deal more in finances who are labeled globalists.
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we're still like last.
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: Week we said the New World Order is like the
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: mother of all conspiracies, and this is still just one
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: aspect of it. Yeah, but it's an aspect, and it's
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: a weird one.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: I think in a lot of New ag uh like, uh,
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: what's the word for it, New ag philosophy, New age philosophy. Yeah,
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: it's I think there is a push towards unity and oneness,
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: and and I see what you're saying about this sort
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: of overlapping with a New World Order. But I wonder
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: if when I think of conspiracy and nWo, I think
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: of central power, right, versus sort of global spirituality, and
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: I don't are they pushing sort of like a specific
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: dogma or belief.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: This group, they're kind of the basis for the New
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: Age movement in general.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: And one of the things that is, I don't know,
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: I guess weird about them.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: Weird is probably the right word.
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: If you go to their Wikipedia page, there's almost no information.
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very short.
• 6:34
  Speaker 4: I saw that, and it.
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: Goes through and we'll go through it in more detail
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: in a second, but it goes through kind of how
• 6:40
  Speaker 3: they were founded, and then it mentions the fact that
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: they run this.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: Blog called Worldwide Goodwill.
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it sort of ends, and it kind
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: of makes it seem like it was this organization that
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: mattered in the nineteen twenties and doesn't really matter now.
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: When the truth is, they're like the publishing wing of
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: the UN. They're very tied like.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: There, so they're the publishing wing, as in, there are
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: no other publishers they work with.
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: There are probably others, okay, but to hear conspiracy theorists
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: describe it, they are the publishing wing of the UN.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: And I think it's probably also important to note that
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: LEUSIS was founded in nineteen twenty two and the United
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: Nations was founded in nineteen forty five. I believe, right, yeah, and.
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: They Yeah, the LUSIS was founded way before the UN.
• 7:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: And there are I don't know if I have it
• 7:40
  Speaker 3: in the notes, but there are quotes from Alice Bailey,
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: who is the founder of LUSIS, where she kind of
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: she references the UN and how it's kind of in
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: line with what they're going.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: For United Nations, right, like, you know unity Unite isn't
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: there so yeah, the only thing there is, like nations
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: is in plural. But I guess if you if it
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: all gets eaten up.
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: Into one, yeah, we're all one. We're just one, one
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: religion one. Once again, we talked about in the last episode.
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: It sounds boring if nothing else. Yeah, Like I want
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: someone to be mad at when I go on Twitter.
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: I don't want us to all agree it's fucking terrible.
• 8:21
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, human.
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure people will still be mad at each other.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll find we'll still find ways to fight.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, especially like we're so as humans, we're so
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: intellectually oriented as animals that were were always problem solving.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: I think that's like the equality of the brain is
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: always looking for problems.
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: And then we'll find a problem in other people and
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: figure out how to solve it, and we'll be right
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: back where we start.
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, we're all going to be brown.
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: So let's uh, let's talk about some of the uh
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: a little bit of the history of this group. Like
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: I said, not a ton of information on their Wikipedia page,
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: which I find it a little suspicious.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is.
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: We're not talking about a small group that wields no influence.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: This is a major player on the world stage. And
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: if you've ever heard of yeah, I've heard, like I've
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: just now heard about them because I'm doing a conspiracy
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: theory podcast. Yeah, and this is like conspiracy theory two
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: oh one, Like you learn about the New World Order
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: the first year, and then you learn about shit like this,
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: like this is deep conspiracy theory shit.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Here, we're stepping it up for the listeners right now.
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome. You have a greater understanding now. And
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: so they're an organization. They're a nonprofit service organization founded
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: in nineteen twenty two by the husband and wife team
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: of Alice and Foster Bailey.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: And she's named first and referenced more often than her husband.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: She's far more important to this story.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the one that actually got the the downloads, right,
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: the spiritual downloads.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: She is the one who the ascended Master, yeah, delivered
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: his spiritual teachings to to her.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: So the it's interesting because ascended master, I think, is
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: a term that describes, you know, just in like I
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say Layman's term, but it describes someone who existed
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: as a person who became enlightened and now spiritually, you know,
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: guides the human race. Some people say like Jesus or Buddha. Right,
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: So she doesn't actually use the term ascended master, but
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: that was that was the term that struck me when
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: I read what happened and how she got the information.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's a good example of how like
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: to put it. I'm probably kind of guilty of it
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: right now, but to put it as, oh, she got
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: this information from an ascended master. Like people hear that,
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: especially a lot of Christians would hear that and go, oh,
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: what kind of bullshit is that? And it's like Christianity
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: involves ascended masters also, like they just don't use that term,
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: like it's the exact same thing. It's a prophet. Yeahah,
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: and so that like she's not alone in that in
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: saying like fucking Carlos Santana. If you look into his background,
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: he believes there is a spirit called Metatron that he
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: gets all of his inspiration and teachings from.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Like, and I'm not mad at it.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I you could use a Metatron. Yeah,
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: Carlos Santana's doing all right, you know, making women's shoes,
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: it's making wine, he is making entrepreneurial. Yeah, there's a
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: Lonely Island song about Carlos Santana.
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: Wait, so that shoe company is his shoe company.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: It's real? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: All right, well or not?
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good bye, pair, You'll be great at guitar and
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: no time.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: I have the powers of Metatron instantly.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those shoes are your ascended master. Oh my good
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: my connection, irony alert, they're on your feet.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, at that level, I think up and
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: down doesn't matter. Names don't even matter, you know, I
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: think everything you sort of thought for Metatron. I think
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: Carlos Santana just assigned him that name because he's like,
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: that's cool. There's a meta Metatron there is another Metatron
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: out there, right, I've heard that name.
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not probably like, I'm sure he's probably part of Yeah,
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: a group that thinks they all have a Metatron and
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: they're all like, what Metatron make me a rock star?
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: Metatron's organizing my.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: Metatron thinks I should just work at this Arby's not
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: cool Metatron.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I know, we got Carlos Santana and we got Arby's
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: workers not to you know, throw shade because Arby's is delicious.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Arby's is fucking great.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: Metatron. Oh okay, So Metatron is an angel and hud
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Islamic mythology, and uh and I think actually there is
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: a sacred geometry cube based or named off of this entity,
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: all right, so.
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: Uh maybe yeah, they either are convenient connect to Metatron.
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: You know, because there's a sacred geometry cube in the
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: un two kind of that's a sacred geometry rectangle.
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: But rectangle.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: We'll get there, Okay, Yeah, I'm interested in the meditation room.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: So this group they I think this is where people
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: on the right and where conservatives whatever you want to
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: call them. I think this group is where people get
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: the idea that liberals worship Satan.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what the thing is, Satan is
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: such a charged word.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: It's like even if I kind of like the idea
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: of looking at Satan, I like the metaphor of Satan
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: as the bringer of light better than the metaphor of
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Satan as the you know, ap of evil.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of why I did the episode of
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: this podcast. And that episode of this podcast was based
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: on a Cracked article I had written a few years earlier,
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: which was about reasons why you should maybe switch to Satan.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: It's metal, it's more metal, it's more.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Metal, and it it ended with the the point that
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Satan could just be a metaphor for science, and science
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: is the enemy of religion.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Knowledge progress, Right, those conservatives sort of want to hold
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: on to the past and avoid change and growth.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: They want their religion to inform how the world.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Works and just be the same forever.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: And so the the idea that there is a new
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: world order underway or something that is something that people
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: are working toward, it's not that crazy, yeah, because I mean,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: how any like we're we're coastal liberal elites, Like, how
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: many friends do we have that are would tell you
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: that getting rid of organized religion would be a good thing,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: or we'll say, oh, religion is the reason we have wars,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: or religion oppresses women all.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I think religion is an excuse used to start wars.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I think the people starting the wars don't give a
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: damn about religion, right, But even then.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: So it's a tool.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: But if like we didn't if that tool didn't exist,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, people who have financial incentive will
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: find something else.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure, But that doesn't mean that incentive should exist.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: So if we were to eradicate organized religion, that would
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: give people one less excuse for war. Yeah, so I
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: feel like the idea that someone is working toward a
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: new world order isn't that crazy. But it's just that
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: people on the right are the ones who worried about it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: So when you hear it from them, it's like, yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Well I think that he cares. Yeah, but the idea
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: of extinguishing something like, how is that going to be enforced?
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: There going to be punishment for someone who finds, like,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: you know, organized religion is not my thing. But let's
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: say someone's like a pretty peaceful person and this has
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: helped them or whatever. So yeah, I guess, you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: it's it's the motive behind.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: It, right and yeah, the enforcement, yeah, behind it, Like
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: you still have to I.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Think free will to me is more appealing than you know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: just eliminating or limiting.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, systems.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of organized religion, like the influence it wields
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: in the world is a bummer. But I wouldn't ever
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: want to like stop someone from being able to just
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: be a fucking Baptist or Methodist whatever or monk or whatever.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Monky. Yeah, just fucking do you dog go?
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Do you go live in the fucking mountains and chant
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and buy a bunch of guns if you want?
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. I was just like I was like
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: feeling it. I was like, I want to go into
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the mountains and chan, and you said, buy a bunch
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: of ducks about it? Because, like, I think it is
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: a decent skill.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: But honestly, I'm so.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Clumsy that yeah, you know, I don't trust myself with guns.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Well that's that's one of the problems about like the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: New World Order. A big part of it is, oh,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: the government's coming to take your guns, yea. And when
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: this theory started going around, a lot of people would
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: like move to the fucking mountains, and start buying guns. Yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and it's like, well, because the government's gonna come and
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have this showdown and I have to fight
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: it out. And we were all like you're crazy, like
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: why are you buying all these guns? And then the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: government shows up and they have to shoot it out.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, just let the this is the United States.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Let them have their guns in the mountain.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, as long.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: As they're in the mountain fucking just petting their guns,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: it's fine.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Who cares? Like, who fucking cares?
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love that Chris Rock reference about
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: just make a bullet like really expensive and then you
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: wouldn't shoot anyone unless you had a damn good reason.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: That seems that seems like a solution.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: And the profit margin, like even if you sold fewer guns,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: it's like selling soda at a restaurant, Like, who cares
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: how much food you sell. You're selling sodas.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Cheaper to make a bullet, right.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Probably than a soda or a gun, probably both in
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: this country.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: So I think there probably are pieces of bullet and soda.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I would hope, so, I would hope so so so yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: not a lot of information on this group's Wikipedia page,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: which I do find weird. It tells you that they're
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: a nonprofit service organization founded in nineteen twenty two.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: It's very vague, very vague, And.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: It's meant to act as a fiduciary trust for the
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: publishing of twenty four bus of esoteric philosophy published under
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Alice Bailey's name.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: That's a quote.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And fiduciary is a trust where they own the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: rights to the materials, right, okay.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: And they and the financial rights, and they have these objectives.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I have them in the notes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: But profiting off of these writings, by the.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Way, I'm pretty sure.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're a nonprofit, but that doesn't mean no
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: one's profiting. Like people still get paid when they work
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: for a nonprofit, so they most likely are. And yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: they just say a publishing of twenty four books of
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: esoteric knowledge, and you're like, oh, okay, that's I'm sure
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: there are tons of books of esoteric knowledge out there,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: but no, these are like the foundation of the New
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Age movement, yeah, like she is. Alice Bailey is one
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: of the first writers to use the term New Age.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: She's not the first, but one of the first, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: she's basically credited as being the founder of the New
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Age movement. And none of that is in this Wikipedia page. Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: which I find really odd because anyone can edit a
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Wikipedia page. I should have gone and looked at Have
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you ever looked at the page where people argue about
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: what should and shouldn't be in a Wikipedia page?
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: And is? I haven't?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: But is that for every article or you can sort
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: of see the debate for everyone.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they debate what should and shouldn't be there, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I should have. I should have looked at it for
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: this one. I'm kind of just remembering that exists. But
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: there's so much that they leave, Like they don't even
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: mention the un yeah, on their Wikipedia page, even though
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: they mention it on their site their website extensively. And
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: for like it's twenty nineteen. Anyone looking up information about
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: this group is going to go to the Wikipedia page.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: So is anyone looking up information?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I don't. I wasn't. Yeah, like I had never heard.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I barely remember how I stumbled on this group at all.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I must have googled something New World Order related and
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: a link to them popped up. Yeah, but I just
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: kind of like fell into it. Yeah, and they're like
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: they're huge, like they're a key, like not a key
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: part of the UN, but they're so closely associated with
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the UN.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're acknowledged as an organization.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Right, and they really do kind of push the notion
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: that hey, no more religions, no more races, we should
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: all just be one thing with one ruling body.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if they are maybe being used since religion.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Is often used for with you know, with.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: There's political motive, maybe this, you know, the people pulling
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the purse strings behind New World Order is sort of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: using this, Yeah, could be to push you know, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I think the surface level is the religion, but what's
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you know, truly the motive, right and U N Have
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: we talked about the UN a.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Little bit in the last episode, Ye, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: the UN is when it comes to New World Order
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: conspiracy theory types, the UN is the enemy.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: They are the ones who are going to execute the
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: New World Order and kind of be the governing body
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of the New World Order, which you you run into
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: this with when you research loosest trust. Also where there's
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: this weird conflict where it's Republicans and people on the
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: right who are like, the UN is going to fucking
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: take over the world, But also Republicans and people on
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the right are like, fuck the UN. They have no
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: fucking bearing on what happens in the world. We can
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: undermine them, and like the the US government kind of
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: takes the same stance also, And I haven't found anywhere
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: in looking into these New World Order conspiracies where anyone
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: is able to balance that out where Okay, well, you're
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: on the right and you think the UN is this
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: huge threat, but also the people representing you on the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: right in government are like, eh, who fucking cares about
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the UN Like you would think there would be a
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: little more vocal opposition to it from actual elected leaders
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: because there have been some fringe type elected leaders president.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: It's all theater.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: The division politics at that level is all everyone's plays
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: for the same team essentially, right, it's a distraction.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's all the New World Order team. Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, people get up in arms
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: at the at the local levels or at our level,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you know, the non you know, the what are we
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: regular people? I think so yeah, civilians.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Civilian civilians, Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Civilians get up in arms about like religion and stuff,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: and then people pushing the you know, like anti abortion
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: laws probably had a bunch and don't really give a shit, right, Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: so it's yeah, I mean, if that's the case, then
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the UN is what it is.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: In the yeah, and that Uh, I don't know.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I mean it could be both, you know, it could
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: be and it could also be like I could see
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: a person on the right who supports this idea making
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the argument that well, that's why people on the right
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: discredit the UN and act like they're not that important
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: because they're trying to limit their influence.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Alice Bailey though, if you look into her as opposed
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to looking into Lucis's trust, she's the one who started
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: lusis Trust lot more information.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: So she was the medium that channeled the information.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: She Yeah, she was.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: She received this information telepathically from a Tibetan master of
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: wisdom known as jual Kool.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I think she referred to him with initials initially, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: then the.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Name was initially DK and at one point just the
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Tibetan which come on, Alice, don't be vag.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Don't be that way.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Uh, don't be that way. Why do you Why does
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: his national.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why's he got to be the Tibetan? Yeah, howcome
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: your husband's not the European? Yeah, but yeah, she telepathically
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: gets twenty four books worth of information dictated to her
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: from an ascended master and.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: She I think it's also important to notice that DK
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: was referenced by another woman, a Russian. She was into
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: esoteric stuff too, occultist.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I believe. I forgot her name, but I believe so.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was kind of a precursor to Alice Bailey.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So this is an ascended master that was referenced. Did
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Alice Bailey did?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: She was?
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: She?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: She must have studied the the woman who.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they ran in the same circles.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: And I think that woman also is kind of credited
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: with starting all of this. It's like like she was
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: probably like the friendster to Alice Bailey's Facebook or MySpace,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: where like she had it, she kind of had it
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: down and then someone else was.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Bailey got it moving.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got this figured out, don't worry.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, Alice uh Bailey, she she is. Despite
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: what the Lusist Trust Wikipedia page implies, Alice Bailey is
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: one of the foundational members of the.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: New Age movement.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: She wrote a thing called the Great Invocation, which is
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: still widely used in New Age circles. And it's this
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: mantra that is meant to get Christ to come back.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Jesus specifically, or like what is what are they referring
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to when.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: They say Christ?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: There is actually an asterisk after Christ because they and
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I think they rewrote it in two thousand to make
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: it more appealing to all religions. Like at first, the
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the interpretation when you read it was they were talking
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: about Christ as Jesus described in the Bible. Yeah, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I think they've since amended it to be like, no,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: we just mean you know, Christ, because what they really
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: mean is their version of Christ. He's going to be like,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: oh fuck all this other stuff. Yeah, like let me
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: tell you how it really works.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Well. Also, I think the term Christ isn't unique to
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Does it mean enlightened or one with that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, God or.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: In that union space.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think maybe expanding that definition would benefit
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: and also align with what they're promoting.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Right right, which is a sort of the eradication of religion,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Like they want religion.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But their spirituality.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, they're there thinking or Their belief is that
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: all religions come from one spiritual place and that as
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: more people realize this, religions will just die off and
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: everyone will kind of rally around their one idea. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the thing is, it's hard to it's hard to say, well, no,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: the New World Order conspiracy theory isn't true at all
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: when there are people out there pushing for this type
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: of thing. And the reach they have is like, I
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: don't run a UN blog and I'm dope, So.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: This is, yeah, you are dope, But this is an
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: official UN blog?
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Or is this is their blog?
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Is no, it's it's official. They are. They have UH in.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: The sense that it's it's paid for by the UN.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: They have a UH.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I forget what the recognition is when we get further
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: in the notes, I have it in the notes. But
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: they have an official designation with the UN that allows
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: them to work directly with the UN, and they put
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: on conferences for the UN. They write papers and articles
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: on behalf of the UN. They run the UN Meditation Room,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: so they have pretty decent reach into the UN. And
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: if you like, we'll link to all of the stuff
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: on the website like that. Alice Bailey could probably be
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: a podcast all her own, Like she did a lot
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: of shit that is still resonating in the world today,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Like we're doing a podcast asked about shit she started
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: in nineteen twenty two.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: So kudos to her, even if it is an insidious
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: plot to enslave the world.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and she's a woman.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Right, fucking girl power.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Honey is Yeah, so I'm not you know, I can
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I respect that I'm gonna get enslaved by someone.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be women.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's only a fifty to fifty thing there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Men are women, and I'm obviously, you know, pick men
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: to enslave me. Come on, now, you know in.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen, is gender really binary? You know?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Good point?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So maybe maybe that's the oneness of gender, maybe an
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: all accompassing and the person that's just like both, say hermaphrodites. Yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: that's still there's sort of a binary thing there, because
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: like you know, I think of stuff as a spectrum,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and that's sort of having both. Yeah, so what if
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: what's a fusion between between the two. Genitalia really one taint? Yes,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: you can come from.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: That's what we need long taints in society.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'llly Unite US.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Uh so, Yeah, the the thing about this group, we've
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: kind of already alluded to it, but when I mentioned,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: like I have in the title of this episode, this
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: is the reason why conservatives think liberals worship Satan. Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: because this group Luci's trust, who is still so tied
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: into the un They founded a publishing company to publish
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: those twenty four books in nineteen twenty two, called the
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Lucifer Publishing Company. Yeah, and if you look now on
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: their website as to why was it called the Lucifer
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Publishing Company, they're like, probably the honor Lucifer.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: So oh so they're very yeah blank yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: They're like, it's the honor Lucifer. We just don't think
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: about Lucifer the same way you.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Do, Okay, but like I said, I respect that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's the thing.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Like the story of Lucifer in the is I think,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: pretty different from what a lot of people imagine it is.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: When you sort of think of what conservatives want and
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: what they're doing, it's effectively like, okay, they attribute Satan
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to anything that's anti religion, right right, and progress they
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: see is anti.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Religious, anti religion, change is anti religion.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: So then you know, it makes sense.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: It's a natural, I think, a natural association that the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: conservatives can use now they're you know, them naming themselves
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Lucifer just sort of gives the you know, gives more
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: ammo to it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she could have just been trolling. She could have
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: been doing some nineteen twenties trolling when she started the name.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I like those early trollers. Yeah, they didn't have they
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: you have to really commit in that era to.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Troll, because they did change the name by nineteen twenty five.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: They changed it to Lucis's Publishing.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: But they have no qualms about talking about how they
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: were Lucifer.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they it's a part of their history. They used
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: to be called the Lucifer Publishing Company. And when there's
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a group like that, I'm not a right wing guy, yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: but I can see how if you are a right
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: wing person who is whose religion really makes up a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: big part of your life, and you've been fed the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: version of Lucifer that positions him as this all encompassing
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: force of evil, I can see how you'd see that
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: and be like, Okay, so they're still like running the
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: un and the group that wants the newer Like there's.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: A lot of charge to the name.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: And it is interesting because I'm sure there was equal
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: amount of charge to the name at the time.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Right, probably more or you are you think.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: So, you know, it's just like, well, maybe she was
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: trolling a little bit. Maybe she was trying to get
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: people a little you know, yank on their chains a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it is a thing where the not
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: only is the story of Lucifer a lot different in
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the Bible than what I think popular culture has made
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: it out to be, but Hell also like a lot
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: of what we know of Hell comes from Dante's Inferno.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Like that's not the Bible, It's just it's a thing
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: a dude wrote.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: A piece of fiction.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like the Bible mentions Hell as a dark
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: place underground. Well, that could be a fucking cemetery, like
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: that's yeah, that's anything like that, which would still be
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: a huge bummer to just be in a dark room
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: by yourself for eternity.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Could be a form of meditation, yeah, or.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: If you can sleep, like I would just adapt to
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: sleeping twenty three and a half hours a day, yeah, or.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Something, Well, what do you do for the thirty minutes.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Fucking float around in my coffin. I don't know.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: We can float probably, I think a.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Litill float, yeah, maybe float an hour a day sleep floating, Yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: we'll sleep float.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: So this group one of the things besides just the
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Lucifer stuff. Alice Bailey has some thoughts on race, and
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I think when you take into account that they're not
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: just Alice Bailey's thoughts on race. As one of the
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: founders of the New Age movement, and as one of
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: the founders of an aspect of the New Age movement
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: that is now very much tied in with the un
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: it kind of makes sense that there are people who
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: view her thoughts on race as a.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Threat and very least controversial.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Very controversial.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: And this is a quote from her book called Esoteric Healing,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: And I apologize.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It's a little.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Long inner marriage between nations and races. The fusion of
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: bloods for hundreds of years, due to migration, travel, education,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and mental unity, has led to there being no really
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: pure racial types today. This is far more certainly the
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: case than the most enlightened think. If the long long
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: history of mankind is considered, sexual intercourse knows no impenetrable barriers,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: impenetrable nice and people today have in them all the
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: strains and the blood of all the races, and this,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: as a result of the World War in nineteen fourteen
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: to nineteen forty five, will be increasingly the case. This
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: development is definitely a part of the divine plan, no
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: matter how undesirable it may appear to those who idealize
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: purity of relationship, something intended is being brought about and
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: it cannot be avoided.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: So, Bailey, what said this post World War?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I have to first say that I'm not
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: mad at the idea of spreading out the gene pool
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: because nature likes that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, nature loves that. What happens when you do incest?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Nature likes tiger happens?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember the white tiger.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: The white tiger. It's a it's a product of inbreeding.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: They all come from one white tiger.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Diversify that gene pool.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want cross eyed tigers.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then it's just like, well, I guess you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: if if Lucifer's science and science is telling you not
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to interbreed, then you know, I can see how they're
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: not with it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the thing, Like She's look, basically, what
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: she's saying, is your idea that your bloodline is pure
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and that you for some reason have to maintain this
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: pure But bloodline is stupid.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: It's goofy.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It's it's goofy, and it's never gonna work. Like progress
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: is just moving against that.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Mobility, Yeah, everyone's everywhere now.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: And I feel like, despite this being a thing she
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: said decades and decades and decades ago, that's kind of
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the defining problem in the world right now because you
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: definitely see it in the United States. Like when those
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: fucking polo wear Nazis were carrying their tiki torches, what
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: were they shouting? You will not replace us? Like they
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: A lot of the right wing movement in this country
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: is centered around the idea that white people are going
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: away and they're going to be replaced by people of color.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: And just like basically what she's talking about, everyone's fucking
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: so no one's gonna be white anymore and we have
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: to preserve it, which is nuts.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: No one's gonna be white because who has dominant genes?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Oh someone someone might be feeling a little insecure exactly there,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: recid resist not well, the opposite of dominant RESIDNT. Remember
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: when the podcast is over.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: It really recessive.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what we'recid of. I just
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: we were again there, we made it. We made it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: This isn't the biology podcast. Okay, we're doing the best
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: we can.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is a thing.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: You don't just see it in the United States, like
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: you're seeing this kind of global push, be it along
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: racial lines or religious lines, where people are like, look,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: our country used to be one thing, and we want
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: it to be that thing again. And in places like
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: China and India that means fucking bad times for Muslim people.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: But in places like Hungary and a lot of Eastern
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: europe countries, it's more like, well, we all used to
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: be Catholic, and now all these fucking liberals aren't Catholic,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: and we should probably get them out of here. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: this really feels like kind of the defining clash right now.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Is one side of the globe feels like, listen, this
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: is p progress that you can't fight, Like you're just
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: gonna have to accept that most people aren't gonna be
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: white anymore, and I think we'll be all right.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And then there's another.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Half who's like, nope, yeah, I disagree.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't want it to happen.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not that they do.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're scared, so they don't disagree that
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: something's happening, you know, right, But it's it's scary to that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I guess a loss of privilege is scary. But you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that's very narrow perspective.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: It's a super narrow perspective, and I think like it
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: is kind of inevitable. And it's sort of.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Because because dorker Jean's are dominant. Yeah's fucking like.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: What people like everyone's fucking like, you can't it can't
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: just be white people forever.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Also, it's just like what are they trying to preserve?
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Like the yeah, the skin color.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's so superficial or is it the culture?
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: There's different ways to preserve culture.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, like like you preserve European culture, like it doesn't
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: have to be white, Like Europe's a place that has culture,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: like just.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Fucking like it. I don't.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I Like this kind of makes me feel like because
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: looking into this, I'm like, well, yeah, there is a
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: group that's pushing for the idea that yeah, maybe all
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: these racial differences and borders and all of this shit
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: is a problem, and yeah, there is a group pushing
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: for that, and I kind of feel like they're the
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: ones who are right. Like, I know, people listening to
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: a conspiracy podcast are gonna fucking hate to hear that. Yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: but that does kind of seem like where we're headed,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: and it seems like all the problems in the world
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: are trying to push against that for no reason.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there's no tribalism.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's it's not a thing to be afraid of.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: It's progress. It's how the world works. And you don't
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: have to lose your culture.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, the only constant is changed first of all.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: So anyone pushing against that, it's gonna be a very
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: uphill struggle. So and I, you know what, I think
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Bailey's kind of a badass. I'm not you know, like
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I I don't know what her motive is, but some
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: of the things, like I don't think a homogenous society
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: is the most interesting society. I don't think a homogenous
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: gene pool is the healthiest set of genetics to build
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: a child from, you know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it like the opposite of this idea, the
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: idea that well, it's just moving in a direction where
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: all races are just gonna kind of be one race.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Like the opposite of that is gonna be some form
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: of hate like it had, it's gonna have like if
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: you want to fight that, it's gonna involve some degree
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: of Okay, well, our races can't mix. We don't want
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: this race in our country. And that's not fucking progress.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: You can't possibly think you're on the right side of
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: history by thinking, well, all right, well these people aren't
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: as much people as we are.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: We have to keep them out.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy because if you grow up in an
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: environment where that is your universe and that's your conditioning,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: it's you know, like these Racism's taught.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it really is. It's taught.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: It's learned, and it's I mean, it is a thing
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: you can it's a it's a thing you can overcome.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Like if it's a thing, that's the good thing about
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: racism being a thing that's learned.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: You can be programmed learn it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the guy who founded stormfront dot org. His
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: son was heavily involved in Stormfront and how much it grew, which, uh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: if people listening aren't familiar, that's like the pioneering Nazi
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: website on the Internet, and his son for most of
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: his teenage years was heavily involved in building that website.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: And then he went to college and like met black
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: people and was like, oh, okay, this is dumb. Yeah, Like,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I like, this website is fucking stupid.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Sometimes is little is exposure?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, takes as little as that. And I mean, from
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: what I'm gathering of what we're learning from about Alice Bailey,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: she sounds like not a racist.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: One of the things that comes up is, oh, well,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: this is very anti Semitic, And there's people say that
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: because what she's pushing calls kind of calls for the
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: eradication of Judaism, but specifically, Yeah, it kind of calls
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: for the eradication of organized religions in general.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's not she's not singling anything out. And
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I don't is she even calling for the eradication. Well
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: maybe it's the verbiage, but I think it's more Again,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's more of an idea of unity. Now,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I do like the idea of diversity in unity, right,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what she's pushing for.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, it's not like if you read
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: her quotes about it, it's not so much that she's
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: explicitly pushing it. She just thinks that when people catch
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: on to her way of thinking, those things will just
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: sort of die off. Okay, like you won't really like, Yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: you could still have your religion if you want after
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: this enlightenment or whatever it is happens, but you probably
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: won't want to.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which you've eaten the apples?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Fair when you eating the apple, Yeah, you're just like, well,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: you know, you you get a little bit of a
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: broader perspective.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Right, And it as as much as I'm I'm saying, like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: maybe that's not that bad of a thing. If anyone's
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: listening to this and wanting me to keep some conspiracy
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: angle to it. If there's anyone who has reason to
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: oppose an idea like that, it's most organized religions, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: most like the Catholic Church especially.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, and they wield a lot of power.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: They wield a whole lot of power.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: So I don't I don't doubt that there's some conspiracy
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: surrounding loosest trust. Yeah, but I don't necessarily think they're
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: on the wrong side of it. Yeah, I think they
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: might actually be on the right side, because no matter
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: how religious you are, you have to admit that, even
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: if it's just used as an excuse, religion is exploited
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: to cause a lot of fucking misery.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there is a difference between ideology
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: and practice, right, So, you know, I do see the
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: ideology that they're that they're enthusiastic about and purporting. But
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: also it's like, you know, what is the what's the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: organization actually doing? Because you can say you're about something,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: you can make a formal statement, but what you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: what are what are the members of this organization getting
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: paid for?
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: What are they doing? What are they you know what?
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: What what's their job? They're saying, we want to promote this,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: this and this, but what are they doing to do that?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: And in this case, they're just writing fucking pamphlets, basically
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: writing pamphlets running a meditation room.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it could be worse.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: I mean it doesn't honestly doesn't sound that bad.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know like this, I like, you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I actually need to start meditating again. But yeah, you know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I think there is encouraging meditating, is encouraging independent thought
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: or freedom.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: From yeah, they could be encouraging a whole loom worse.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: And if it comes down to New World Order versus
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: like fourth political theory, which we talked about on the
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: previous episode, I'm going New World Order, Like, I'm going
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: with the version that encourages and accepts everyone living and
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: being alive as opposed to the one that encourages well,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: some people might have to die so we can all
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: be the country we always wanted to be.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's just and gensteric.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, white people, so that's the loosest trust.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: There, it's a it's a conflicting group. Like like we
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: normally end these episodes by deciding if we believe this
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: or not. Yeah, and like this one, Yeah, I believe
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: there is someone pushing for a New World Order, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I just I kind of feel like the really nefarious
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: aspects of it are more a smear thing by religious
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: types and people on the right, and.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: The new World Order that they're pushing might be a
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: different type of New World Order. I don't know that
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: if nWo is the right term for them, right, because
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: it is so associated with you know, like when I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: hear that, I think of yeah, troll black helicopters, yeah,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Cetroll Economy Chips, r F I D Chips.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, that's that's our episode. This was a
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: lot of fun.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Do we have anything well, uh, we're gonna do more
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: New World Order episodes.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I think there's so much to cover. Uh, do you
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: have anything to plug? Yeah, we get out of here.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm starting up my U tube again. Physical sign
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: on YouTube or f designy or something.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: You can just type it in right, Yeah.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Physitis dot com has all my social media's Instagram and
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: all that and facial recognition. Comedy dot com is a
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: show and tour that I created and a weekly podcast.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: So check that out.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Uh follow me on at Instagram at Adam Todd Brown
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Todd with one D and I'll be touring next year.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Come see me tell jokes. All right, let's get the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: fuck out of here. Phizzis say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye everybody.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: We love you.