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Episode 4: Titanic (1997) aka THIC-TANIC · Take #2: Movie Reviews

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  OK, welcome back ladies and gentlemen.
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  We are in episode 4 of the Take Two pod with Mum and Dad.
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  I'm Dad. And I'm mom.
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  The kids are down for the night and we are ready to do this
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  podcast. Yeah, it's a little bit of a
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  crazy night. I went and picked up our
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  three-year old from daycare and I took him straight to the
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  indoor playground. Why you asked?
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  Because we're potty training and he likes to withhold poop
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  instead of just going in his pants.
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  To the point of Constipation. To the point of Constipation.
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  It's been 3 days. So I took him to the indoor
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  playground, which always gets him going.
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  It did, yeah. We had some success, but it's
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  really annoying and bad habit that he has, right?
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  Now I got a picture of confirmation that he took a
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  crap. It was graphic to say the least
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  and the caption said the eagle has landed.
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  Thank you very much for that. I'm just.
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  Saying while next to me, one of my colleagues at work may have
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  seen the photo and it was like, wow, this guy's into some weird
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  shit. Pro tip, if you have a
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  constipated kid, take them to an indoor playground because they
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  will run and play and they will get things moving.
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  Agreed. So I stand by it.
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  Alright Mum, do you want to introduce the movie for episode
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  4? Drum roll, please.
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  The most romantic disaster movie of all time, Titanic, released
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  in 1997, directed of course by James Cameron and starring Kate
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  Winslet, Leonardo Di Caprio and Billy Zane.
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  Billy Insane, if I do say so myself.
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  Yeah, we'll talk about him. All right, so the synopsis for
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  Titanic, an epic romance disaster film detailing the 1912
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  maiden voyage of the RMS Titanic.
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  It follows 17 year old aristocrat Rose DeWitt Bukater,
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  who falls in love with penniless artist Jack Dawson, defying her
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  social class and fiance. Their romance turned to survival
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  when the ship hits an iceberg and sinks, leading to Jax
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  sacrifice. OK, that's a do it Picador.
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  How about you do it later? You applicator do it because
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  you're supposed to say like what?
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  Like what? It sounds like a machine that
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  does something that it's very. Strange, Jack jokes about.
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  He's like, I have to write that one down.
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  Yeah, do it. Because it's long.
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  I gotta order a duplicator. The electricity is not working
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  OK, box office uh, this movie in its initial run, it made 1.84
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  billion with a B billion dollars and it was released about 20
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  years later for January and it made another, I don't know,
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  almost half a billion dollars. So now we're looking at 2.26
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  billion as of 2024 and this movie held the number one spot
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  for highest grossing movie of all time until James Cameron
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  broke his own record with Avatar, the first Avatar.
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  Yeah, which is another epic, epic romance.
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  This movie came out in 1997. If you were around for that
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  time, you know what craziness and hype this.
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  Movie had around it everywhere. It was everywhere.
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  It was in theatres forever. I mean, let's get into it.
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  Yeah, let's do it. OK, so first date, when was the
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  first time you watched this? Again, dad, you remember seeing
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  movies for the first time. I, I was a kid, OK.
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  I was pretty young kid. I do know that the first time I
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  saw it was on VHS. It was on that, that double VHS
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  that was so infamous with the light blue background and the
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  two tapes. We owned that and that's how I
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  saw it for the first time. And my best friend used to watch
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  it. We we, we watched it several
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  times together, me and my best friend.
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  And we used to act out scenes after and she would be Rose and
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  I always had to be Jack for some reason.
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  OK, but I don't remember the first time I saw it.
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  I just remember seeing it as a child way too young and acting
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  out scenes that were very inappropriate for a child that
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  young to be acting out. What?
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  OK what? This got dark really quick.
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  What scenes are you reenacting? Well, no, like it wasn't
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  anything crazy sexual or anything.
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  It's just we were saying dialogue from the.
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  Movie. And we were like 6.
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  Did you reenact the drawing scene?
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  Probably. I don't remember specifically
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  that I I remember specifically the spitting scene we.
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  Do we're like 5 minutes in and it's already taken a turn?
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  OK, so mom doesn't have a memory of any time she watched a movie
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  for the first time. I guess as a kid I don't.
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  I have ones as you would have. Been five years old 56.
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  Yeah, I saw it. We got the VHS.
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  We ordered. It actually came in the mail and
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  I watched it. But we watched it so many times
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  and me and my best friend watched it so many times.
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  I I can't say what was the first time.
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  OK, well, alright. My first time I remember it
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  distinctly because I was about 8 years old.
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  So this movie came out in 97 December of 97, and I went to
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  the movie theatre with my mom and my two sisters because my
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  sisters wanted to see it really badly.
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  And they just dragged my mom along and I'm like, whatever.
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  I'll because they would have been teenagers.
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  Yeah, and I was a kid, so I'm like, oh, movies.
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  Yeah, sure. So we went to the movie theatre.
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  I remember which theatre we went to to this day and we went in
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  and I'm a kid so I'm just like, oh, Titanic, the ship is going
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  to sink, you know, disaster movie.
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  And I remember watching it and I'm like this movie for an 8
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  year old, was it boring? Because you see the Titanic on
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  the screen. You're like, this is, you know,
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  it's epic. It's a big ship, it's a big
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  deal. You're just waiting for that
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  moment in the movie where shit's about to go down you.
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  Know it takes a turn. Yeah, man, there's a moment in
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  the movie where Jack is sitting in a chair and Rose is basically
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  getting naked, and I'm eight years old and she's about to
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  drop her little. Little robe.
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  Little robe onto the ground and I just see an adult sized hand
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  come over my eyesight. Clamp over your eye.
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  Clamp over my eyes so I don't see what is about to go down.
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  And maybe I can. I mean, I think I tried to peek
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  a little bit, but those hands were on there pretty tight.
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  You didn't see any boobies? I I don't think I saw anything.
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  So once it was over, the hand came off.
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  And then later on in the movie, there's a scene in the car.
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  And that scene as well, because it happened so abruptly, they
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  didn't kind of ease into it like the drawing scene.
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  Yeah, because they give you all the warnings.
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  Like she literally says I want you to draw me like one of your
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  French girls. Yeah, but anyway, it was, you
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  know, those scenes, I was like, whoa, you're 8 years old and
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  you're just like, what the hell is this?
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  And then once it's over, the the fun can begin.
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  The iceberg hits and then like, you know, shit starts to go
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  down. So as an 8 year old, I remember
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  it being epic. We didn't own it on VHS, but I
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  remember the hype around this movie.
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  Like people were losing their mind.
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  I still remember watching on TV. When the VHS came out, it had a
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  midnight release and people were lined up outside stores at
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  midnight to get this movie, to get a copy of Titanic.
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  Yeah, that's why my mom had to order it.
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  Like, that's why I came in the mail for us.
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  You couldn't get it anywhere. It was sold out everywhere.
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  Wow, like in 9798 she just knew to order it in the mail.
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  Like that was the thing. I don't it might have been like
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  by the time I actually we actually had, it might have been
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  like 1999. OK, so this movie was in
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  theatres for a long time, but we'll get into that later.
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  So yeah, that was my first time watching it long time ago, but I
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  remember it like it was yesterday.
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  So Mom, why do you like this movie or why do you not like
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  this movie? I love this movie.
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  This is another one that I deeply love, deeply entrenched
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  in my childhood and my life, and I've seen it throughout so many
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  different phases of my life. And it's a different movie every
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  time. It's a different experience
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  every time. You notice different things
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  every time, depending on what era you're living.
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  So it's very unique in that way. It's very well done and it's
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  very iconic for the 90s, so I just, I have a love for it for
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  those reasons. I'm going to be really cheesy
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  here, but it's not a movie, it's an experience.
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  If you've never seen Titanic from start to finish without
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  interruption, but don't watch it on your phone, you know, on a
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  laptop, sit down, watch it on a 50 inch TV, at least you know.
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  Put your phone down. Don't put.
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  Your phone down don't be scrolling and like looking at
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  the TV and looking at your phone.
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  This movie requires all your attention for three hours and 4,
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  8 minutes and it keeps every bit of it because, like I said, it's
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  an experience. And every time you watch it,
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  even though you've seen it a bunch of times, which I have,
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  you hope you still like you're watching and you're like, I hope
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  they make it off the ship. I hope they make it off the ship
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  safely. And you know, and then halfway
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  through, sometimes there's a flash forward and it takes you
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  back to reality. It's almost like the stuff that
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  happens in 1912. It's like a dream sequence when
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  Old Lady Rose is telling her story.
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  It seems like it's made-up. It's almost like a fairy tale.
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  And then it cuts back to her being old and you're like, oh,
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  it brings you back to Earth. It's really, it's a weird
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  feeling. And I think it's just the
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  pinnacle of James Cameron's work, even though I think
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  Terminator 2 is like his peak. Don't worry, we'll we'll do an
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  episode on that. But.
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  But yeah, even with we know Rose survives because she's the one
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  sharing the story with us. But the stakes are still so
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  high. Everything we see her going
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  through. Yeah, it doesn't.
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  It doesn't take away her mortality knowing that she's
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  telling the story. You're still fear for her life
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  throughout the disaster. I jump, you jump, right, Jack
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  Yes. So that's what our take.
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  We both love this movie very much, as most people do.
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  I don't know a lot of people that don't like it, and those
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  people that don't make it can all fuck off.
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  So that let's let's jump together into the segments.
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  Wow, Well played. Well played.
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  OK, go ahead. You wanna do cringiest moment or
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  you want me to? Go first.
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  I'd like to go first. OK, ladies first.
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  The spitting scene, it's gross. I don't like when people spit in
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  regular life. It offends me and the Hawking
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  and the spitting. There's people around them
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  looking. It doesn't really add much to
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  the movie. I get that it's trying to like,
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  add in some levity and some playfulness into their
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  relationship. It's gross.
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  Keep your spit in your mouth. It's cringy.
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  OK. So for me that I picked the same
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  scene. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And for a couple of reasons.
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  The spit is not even the cringiest part for me.
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  It's Jack. Jack.
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  Teacher ride like. No Jack, no bacco like a Maine.
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  And spit like a man. What didn't teach you that in
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  finishing? School No.
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  Come on, I'll show you. Let's do it.
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  I'll show you. How come?
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  On Jack come. On quick Jack, possibly Jack,
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  Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack. Like if there was a drinking
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  game for how many times she says Jack or how many times Jack says
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  Rose in this movie, you would be in the hospital.
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  No, you would literally be deceased.
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  Yeah, like you would be having food alcohol poisoning.
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  Sorry, not food poisoning. You would have alcohol poisoning
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  because this shit is crazy. They say Jack and Rose so many
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  times. You're almost like, am I hearing
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  this right? Well it's like some movies
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  you're not at. You kind of forget what the main
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  characters names are. You will never forget it.
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  So I don't know why the James Cameron wrote this.
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  I don't know why he did that, but this movie is a masterpiece.
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  But there's some parts like what is he trying to accomplish here?
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  I don't know. Maybe there's like some kind of
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  method to his madness. But that whole sequence and then
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  the following up with the spitting, it seems cringy and
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  kind of unnecessary. And this bit when it drips on
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  his chin, Yeah, you. It's not funny.
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  It's like when she says what it is like to teach you how to ride
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  like a man. And spit like a man.
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  That's what starts it. I mean, it's supposed to be
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  cute. It's kind of, it's not cute,
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  It's cute, it's cringy, it is crazy.
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  I love this movie but that scene.
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  I have. I have something else that I put
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  in this category. I don't think cringy is a strong
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  enough word for it. OK, no, I'm serious.
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  This is a serious thing in this movie.
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  I didn't realize before this watching of it that she is 17
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  years old. I always thought she was like 19
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  or 20, but they said it in the movie this time and I heard it
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  and I watched the movie knowing that, having that in my mind
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  that she's 17. She is a 17 year old girl and
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  Cal her fiance. How old do you think he is in
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  this movie? I don't know 20. 530 years old.
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  How do you know that? Because I looked it up.
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  He's 30. He's 30 and Jack is 20.
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  Both of them are fucking predators.
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  She's a child. He's not a predator.
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  He his no jacks more reasonable. No, she is a child.
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  He's not afraid. You know why?
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  I'll tell you why he goes for her, but she's engaged.
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  This is off topic completely, but she's engaged and he goes
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  for her. She's already locked in with
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  Cow, even if she's unhappy. You've made this commitment to
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  Cal, but you decide to go with Piscopo Joe over here.
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  All right, calling Jack was a predator is a little
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  heavy-handed, but she she is, she's a kid.
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  She's literally three years older than one of our nieces.
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  That's a kid. And that really changes the, IT
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  changes the, the, the way I view the movie as a mother, OK,
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  because she's a child. So that that sounds like
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  something that belongs and cancelled or classic, but
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  anyway. For for me, I just like I said,
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  cringe is not a strong enough word for it, but it is
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  distasteful. In the movie, Kate Winslet was
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  actually 20 and she turned 21 on set, and Leo was actually 22, so
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  they were both playing a few years younger than their true
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  selves. But yeah, she was supposed to
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  only be 17, very young. OK, but you have to look that up
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  in the age of this movie came out there's no information of
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  that and they. Say she's.
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  Seven, I know, but you don't know how old, Cal.
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  Is. I didn't know how old exactly
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  so. You don't, you don't feel that
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  like they don't look too far in age.
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  So there's no like there's no predatorial vibe going.
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  On no, there is, there always is, because he's obviously more
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  of an adult than her and he was always a little bit creepy.
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  Really. She doesn't look 17.
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  She looks older. That's the thing I like.
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  She seems like an adult in the movie but yeah if you watch. 197
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  you don't have that outlook because there's no Internet for
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  you to look this. Up right.
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  But if you look closely, yeah, there there are things that are
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  hinting that she's still a kid, and I'll go into that.
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  Later. OK, for me, I would say so.
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  The Jack, Jack, Jack. No Jack.
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  Cringiest moment. Dinner scene is very cringey for
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  me because Cal and Rose's mom are like really going after him
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  trying to. Embarrass him?
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  Uncomfortable. It's not supposed to be.
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  Cringey. Yeah.
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  It's, it's uncomfortable for me. And I would say like, it's a
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  little cringy that you would do that to a dinner guest.
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  Good humor and how is it you have means to.
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  Travel, I work my way from place to place, you know tramp
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  steamers and such. But I want my ticket on Titanic
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  here and a lucky handed poker. A very lucky.
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  Hand all life is a game of luck. Real man makes his own luck.
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  Gotcha. Right, Dawson?
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  And you find that sort of rootless existence appealing to
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  you? Oh yes, ma'am, I do.
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  It's really shitty like that. You are some fucking shitty.
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  People are doing. That it's obvious.
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  Yeah, they're really rude. And this guy drives through that
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  inappropriate bullshit like a hot knife through butter.
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  Like he just fucking. He makes you like him even more.
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  Yeah, he is. He'll get into that later.
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  OK, most iconic moment or quote giver.
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  So I have a few. OK, you go first cause I have
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  like a laundry list here. Go ahead.
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  So for an iconic moment, the the hand smear on the back window of
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  the car is very iconic, has been parodied many times.
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  OK. But honestly, it's a little bit
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  gross. Which what they're sweating.
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  Yeah, it's sweaty and greasy and you smear your hand and then
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  when they when they when they're looking for them and they go to
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  the car and they flash the flashlight, they're still like
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  this sweaty, greasy ass hand smear.
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  That's kind of gross. It's a passionate.
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  Scene, I know, but it's. Just it's 100% passion.
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  No adulterants, no filters, no substitute, just 100% passion.
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  Yeah, but it's like a sexual Sophie.
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  I, I, I don't know it's what, as an adult, it gives me the egg a
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  little bit. Oh my God.
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  The first time Jack sees Rose and his friend Tommy is like,
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  you might as well have angels flying out of your arse if you
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  think you're getting next to the likes of her.
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  That's a really good scene because you see how beautiful
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  Rose is and she immediately notices Jack.
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  It's he's more her age. She obviously has an instant
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  attraction as well because she kind of glances at him a few
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  times. So I like that.
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  There's like a lot of electricity in that scene.
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  Should I go into quotes or do you want to share your moments?
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  And then I'll go. Quote My favorite moment is the
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  Irish dance party. I love that fucking whole
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  sequence. Yeah, that's a great.
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  It's, yeah, I'll get into it later.
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  But that whole sequence, it's it literally, it looks like a real
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  party. It looks like the cast got a
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  little drunk and a couple of the guys like, you know, I know how
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  to play this, I know how to play that.
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  And then they started playing these instruments and they just
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  had a wicked party. Yeah.
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  It's lively, it's fun, it's full of life.
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  Yeah. Go ahead with quotes.
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  So a few, yeah. So when Jack and Fabrizio are
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  getting onto the Titanic for the first time and he says, have you
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  been through the the lice checks?
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  He's like, besides, we don't have any lice.
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  We're Americans, both of us. As if Americans can't have
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  likes. Yeah, I think, he says.
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  That yes, he does. He.
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  Says lice checks. He, well, he says, did.
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  Did. Security check.
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  Did you go through all your checks?
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  And he's like, yeah, of course, but we don't have any life.
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  We're Americans, both of us. I don't think he says that, but
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  anyway, we'll have to look that up because I think you've
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  misheard. He does.
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  I don't think he says we have like, I think either way, we're
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  Americans, I think. That's what he said.
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  We don't have any life for Americans.
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  He says that, OK. And then him and Fabrizio go to
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  the front of the ship, and the ship set sail.
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  And Fabrizio says, I can see the Statue of Liberty already.
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  It's very small, of course. It's like so cute and hopeful.
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  The king of the world moment. Yeah, that's, that's the next
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  one. I'm the king of the world.
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  But that whole scene is like, so a lot of people say that that's
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  the most iconic scene, even though it's super cheesy.
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  I'm the king of the world in the.
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  Commercials, it's cheesy, but it also like he's a young guy and
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  he just got to go on this life changing trip.
• 19:56
  Like it's exciting and you feel you feel his excitement.
• 19:59
  My next quote is after Rose's suicide attempt.
• 20:04
  They're talking about it and this old guy who he says some
• 20:08
  funny things in the movie later, but this old guy goes, it's like
• 20:10
  I always say, women and machinery don't mix because she
• 20:13
  said that she was leaning over to see the propellers.
• 20:16
  Fucking best. Yeah, she has some great lines
• 20:18
  in this movie. Yes, cause she said she was
• 20:20
  leaning over to see the propellers.
• 20:21
  So he said women and machinery don't mix.
• 20:23
  And I thought that was funny. When Rose chugs the beer at the
• 20:28
  party, Yeah, it says, what do you think of first class girl
• 20:32
  can't drink? And then my last iconic quote is
• 20:37
  but this ship can't sink. She's made of iron, Sir.
• 20:40
  I assure you she can and she will.
• 20:43
  No, no, no. It's a mathematical certainty.
• 20:45
  I'm sorry to interrupt. I will do Jumanji dad's line and
• 20:49
  then you do the. Rest OK.
• 20:51
  Ready. Yeah, put this ship.
• 20:53
  Can't sink. She's made of iron, Sir.
• 20:56
  I assure you she can. And she will.
• 20:58
  The pumps, if we open the pumps by your time, but minutes only.
• 21:03
  From this moment, no matter what we do, Titanic will founder.
• 21:11
  But the ship can't see. She's made of iron, Sir.
• 21:14
  I assure you she can and she will.
• 21:17
  It's a mathematical certainty, Mr. Andrews.
• 21:21
  So iconic. Oh my God, that that.
• 21:23
  I remember you quoted that line years ago and I laughed so hard.
• 21:27
  She's made of iron, Sir. I can't even like it's, it's so
• 21:33
  hilarious. The first time I quoted to you
• 21:35
  died laughing and you said like later.
• 21:38
  If you can, if you can quote obscure lines like that like,
• 21:41
  you can hang basically. Yeah, and.
• 21:43
  Make me feel good. Yeah, exactly.
• 21:46
  OK, anymore. No, those are that's.
• 21:48
  It. Oh man, I got a bunch here.
• 21:51
  OK, You ready? Yeah.
• 21:52
  Look at me you filth. He's such a Dick.
• 21:57
  When, when, when when Jack saves Rose from jumping off the
• 22:02
  friggin ship and then the security guys fine Jack like on
• 22:06
  top of her and it looks. Like gonna let him take the
• 22:08
  fall. She almost let him take the fall
• 22:10
  for that. So this is another thing that
• 22:13
  makes Rose look really bad in this movie and we can talk about
• 22:16
  this. Later, no, she, she comes to his
• 22:18
  rescue after she after she. Comes down, she she does some
• 22:20
  questionable shit and yeah, it's like, OK, she's 17, blah, blah,
• 22:23
  blah. But it's like, OK.
• 22:25
  But yeah, basically Jack looks like he's basically raping her
• 22:29
  and, you know, but he actually saved her life.
• 22:31
  And this guy is in cuffs already and Cal grabs him and he's
• 22:35
  talking shit at the jackets. Like look at me, you filth.
• 22:39
  Fucking iconic line it is. And then the same Monopoly man.
• 22:43
  I call him Monopoly Man. He does look like the monopoly
• 22:46
  man all. Life is a game of luck.
• 22:49
  Have the dinner table. Yeah.
• 22:50
  And so Jack says like, you know, seize the day.
• 22:52
  He basically says it's a great line.
• 22:54
  Actually he says make each day count, which is a great quote.
• 22:58
  And they lift their glasses to making it.
• 22:59
  Count and to making it count and they go yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:05
  It's so buggy and like, you have to own a lot of land and like,
• 23:12
  you have to have people under your thumb to have a voice in
• 23:15
  like, some confidence to be like, here at dinner.
• 23:19
  Normal people just can't be like, yeah, yeah.
• 23:21
  No, you can't. When they win the card game and
• 23:26
  Fabrizio is like I go to America whatever and then the bartenders
• 23:32
  like no man Titanic go to America in 5 minutes and then
• 23:38
  and then they just like grab all their change and the tickets of
• 23:41
  the Titanic and run out of the bar.
• 23:43
  Wicked wicked part. That guy had one line in the
• 23:46
  movie and it's iconic. I always remember him too.
• 23:49
  Tannic go to America in 5 minutes.
• 23:53
  He points at the clock. You're like, oh, shit, Beach.
• 23:58
  Oh, yeah. When they're loading up the
• 24:00
  lifeboats near the end of the movie and people are fucking
• 24:03
  panicking and the guys working on the ship are freaking out and
• 24:08
  the like, the passengers are getting violent.
• 24:10
  So some of them have a gun or carrying a pistol.
• 24:13
  And the guy goes, get back. Get back, I say, or I'll shoot
• 24:19
  you all like dogs. Keep order cap order here, I
• 24:24
  say. And then he turns right and
• 24:26
  loads it. It wasn't even loaded.
• 24:28
  That's Keep all That is not supposed to be a funny scene.
• 24:33
  But it's not funny, no, but intense, The accent and the
• 24:36
  delivery of the line. It's comical a little bit,
• 24:39
  keyboarder eyes say anyway. And then near the end of the
• 24:45
  movie, when that one lifeboat goes back, it's a fucking dark
• 24:49
  scene. Like it's really sad.
• 24:51
  But this guy, he's in the lifeboat.
• 24:54
  He's like, is there anyone alive out there?
• 24:59
  Can anyone hear me? Keep going, keep checking them.
• 25:04
  His accent is just like, it's crazy.
• 25:07
  It's it's crazy when you code it makes me laugh because that
• 25:10
  scene is so fucking upset. I know, I know.
• 25:13
  And then he's just like, it's the ours.
• 25:16
  He's rolling the R like he's fucking rolling up the rim.
• 25:18
  He's like, is there anyone alive out there you wanna hear me?
• 25:23
  No, it's not like you're making it one.
• 25:26
  And then when Kathy Bates is on the lifeboat, it's another quote
• 25:30
  and it's all the Irish guys, Kathy Bates, like, we gotta go
• 25:33
  back. We gotta go.
• 25:34
  There's your men out there. And he's like, there'll be 1
• 25:38
  less on his boat if you don't shut that hole in your face.
• 25:43
  I was like, whoa, bro, chill. But it's, it's, it's still
• 25:47
  funny. I'm laughing.
• 25:48
  Crew takes a beating during the disaster like they they're fed
• 25:52
  up. They're not prepared.
• 25:54
  Because it's stressful. Yeah, they're not prepared.
• 25:56
  Yeah, there's a lot of amazing quotes.
• 25:58
  I mean, we can't even name all of the amazing quotes because
• 26:00
  we'd be here all night, but it's.
• 26:03
  Those are my favorite. We quote this movie to each
• 26:05
  other at random times. There's a bunch, but these are
• 26:08
  the ones that I like. Like there's when Cal tells Jack
• 26:11
  he's like, oh, Dawson, you could almost pass for a gentleman.
• 26:16
  Like that's such a backhanded compliment.
• 26:18
  Like fuck off bro. Anyway, is this movie classic or
• 26:25
  cancelled in 2026? Alright, strapping everybody.
• 26:29
  Oht boy. So this movie is obviously a
• 26:32
  classic to me and many others, but Rose has been cancelled in
• 26:38
  recent years and even back in the 90s for several different
• 26:41
  reasons. Everyone has talked about the
• 26:44
  fact that Jack could have fit on the door.
• 26:47
  That has been a point of contention for years.
• 26:51
  They should have made room for him.
• 26:53
  Hot take. They could not both fit on the
• 26:56
  door. They fucking tried in the movie.
• 26:58
  And the door started flipping over and sinking into the water.
• 27:02
  And like, you see Jack accept death in that moment and he's
• 27:05
  like, I'm going to let her get on this door because I love her.
• 27:07
  I'm going to let her survive and I'm going to stay with her in
• 27:10
  this water dying for as long as I can.
• 27:12
  You see him? You see the look in his face, He
• 27:14
  accepts it. Stop saying he could fit on the
• 27:17
  door because it's simply not true.
• 27:18
  He could have maybe left her and went and found another piece of
• 27:21
  debris to hold on to. He could not have fit on the
• 27:23
  door. So everybody used to stop with
• 27:25
  that, but that's one thing she's been cancelled for.
• 27:30
  But more recently, there's been a lot of contention around Rose
• 27:34
  specifically for meeting Jack in heaven instead of her husband,
• 27:38
  who she had children with. And a lot of people are offended
• 27:44
  by that. But it's it's for the movie.
• 27:47
  It's for the dramatic outcome at the end of the movie.
• 27:50
  We want to see her reunited with Jack, not some random husband
• 27:54
  that we've never even met. I have a thing about that.
• 27:56
  Later, even when they show her in her.
• 27:58
  Pictures fix that whole part, but I mean they never.
• 28:02
  Well, even when even when they show all of those pictures she
• 28:05
  has, it's only her because we don't wanna see her with a
• 28:08
  random guy in those pictures. Her husband, because we don't
• 28:11
  know him. We didn't hear a love sorry
• 28:13
  about him. We heard about Jack and then
• 28:17
  lastly she's been cancelled for lying to Bill Paxton and the
• 28:20
  crew because she really does waste their time and tells them
• 28:25
  her fucking long ass 3 hour story.
• 28:28
  Yeah, but she hasn't. Well, she had the heart of the
• 28:32
  ocean the whole time. They're listening to you because
• 28:33
  they want to know what this. Version that's class is there,
• 28:36
  that's classic old people vibes. That's what they do True.
• 28:39
  I mean, no shades old people, but they like to chill and talk
• 28:42
  and you're just like bro, I gotta go to work and they're
• 28:45
  like, well, I have nothing to do so can you listen?
• 28:48
  Yeah, which is kind of sad. It is kind of sad, but she did
• 28:51
  have an epic story to tell. Yeah.
• 28:53
  And then people are also were very upset that she decided to
• 28:57
  throw it over at the end. You could have given it to Bill
• 29:01
  Paxton character and made his life.
• 29:03
  You could have given it to your granddaughter and she would have
• 29:07
  a generational wealth for years. Yeah.
• 29:10
  And and another thing that I, I do find, it's a little bit of a
• 29:14
  plot hole. She supposedly gets off of the
• 29:20
  second ship that saves them from the Titanic.
• 29:23
  She has nothing. She's starting from nothing in
• 29:25
  New York. But she has the song.
• 29:27
  She has this huge ass. Really expensive.
• 29:29
  Basically an Infinity song. Basically, you're telling me she
• 29:33
  didn't pawn that? No.
• 29:35
  Because she wanted. Her own steam.
• 29:37
  And that was her memory of Jack that night because she's she
• 29:41
  lost the drawing. That was her only piece of Jack.
• 29:45
  It's not a piece of Jack though. It's.
• 29:47
  A piece of That's her memory of. That's a.
• 29:49
  She shares a memory with Jack with that item.
• 29:52
  I guess it it's just it's kind of.
• 29:54
  That's my explanation. For it, it's kind of surprising.
• 29:57
  And making some hot points here, woman.
• 29:59
  Yeah, it's kind of surprising that she keeps it.
• 30:02
  And that I'm not surprised. And that she doesn't.
• 30:04
  At the end she that's himself. I'm surprised at what she did at
• 30:07
  the end. That's controversial as hell,
• 30:09
  but I mean. So yeah, So.
• 30:11
  So Rose specifically has been canceled, Yeah.
• 30:14
  But the movie itself has always held up as a classic.
• 30:19
  Yeah, you make some really good points.
• 30:20
  I'm not gonna argue with the the roles being cancelled thing.
• 30:24
  Like there's a few points there that you like, really solid
• 30:27
  points. I have something later that
• 30:31
  might have fixed some of the parts about her going to heaven
• 30:34
  and all that and seeing Jack or whatever, but OK.
• 30:39
  So for me, um, I know it's certain situations that this
• 30:44
  movie would get cancelled, but I don't think you can, you know,
• 30:48
  it's gonna be, I think it's gonna be like, unfortunately,
• 30:51
  it's gonna be like Gone with the Wind where it's a classic and
• 30:56
  then but and 100 years people are going to be like, this is so
• 30:59
  problematic. Gone with the Wind is far more
• 31:01
  problematic. Now.
• 31:03
  Now it is, but 30-40 years ago it was still problematic.
• 31:07
  But now take Titanic. Problematic when it came.
• 31:10
  Out take Titanic in a year. I'm not a year, sorry.
• 31:13
  In 100 years, the the movie, I think it would be even more
• 31:17
  because there's there's some shit here.
• 31:18
  She. OK, so here we go.
• 31:20
  Rose calls the Titanic a slave ship.
• 31:23
  You guy. Oh yeah, it's.
• 31:25
  She calls it a slave ship. Let me finish.
• 31:28
  Yeah, she shouldn't have done that.
• 31:29
  Not. Even close, but you just got in
• 31:31
  with your little purple fucking hat out of your little jalopy
• 31:36
  and then she's. Like she's because slaves went
• 31:38
  over in chains and she felt enslaved to call it wasn't
• 31:41
  specifically about but yeah, it's it's a bad taste.
• 31:44
  It's not a slave for a white person to say that.
• 31:46
  I agree. No, anybody like it's not a
• 31:48
  slave ship, It's it's electric. It's a luxury cruise.
• 31:51
  Yeah, and you're in the fucking like top, top tier of it.
• 31:55
  You're in the A deck, not EDEC, bro.
• 31:58
  So that's kind of like that. She gets cancelled for that.
• 32:03
  But yeah, Jack, just drawing random girls breastfeeding their
• 32:07
  babies in public. Excuse me, can I fucking help
• 32:10
  you? Can you imagine, Can you fucking
• 32:13
  imagine being at a park or whatever and you cover it up
• 32:17
  like you're wearing a, a breastfeeding cover and you're
• 32:20
  breastfeeding your kid and there's this fucking random dude
• 32:24
  across the park in 2026. So he's not drawing you now.
• 32:29
  He's got his fucking phone out or he's wearing like those
• 32:32
  sunglasses that record, and he's just fucking taking pictures.
• 32:36
  Of you we we have to imagine that he spoke to her and that
• 32:39
  she wanted. Can you?
• 32:40
  OK, but Can you imagine approaching a woman in 2026
• 32:44
  asking can I draw you breastfeeding your child, I'm an
• 32:47
  artist, blah blah blah. They'd be like get the fuck out
• 32:49
  of here you creep. You made a good point that it's
• 32:52
  France and France was a lot more a lot more liberal and people
• 32:57
  were willing to like people were less puritanical about so so
• 33:01
  maybe she was breastfeeding her child that he he said, listen,
• 33:03
  like this is beautiful. Can I please sketch?
• 33:05
  You if I'm Jack and I'm not, but if I'm Jack and I'm trying to
• 33:10
  get with this hot item who's a rich girl, I'm going to say
• 33:14
  whatever I can to get into those pants.
• 33:17
  And I'm going to tell her that I got permission to draw these
• 33:22
  random women who are naked. And she's gonna be like, oht,
• 33:27
  you're very good. It's like maybe he didn't.
• 33:30
  Maybe he was chilling with a little hood on and you know, he
• 33:36
  was just like Incognito in the distance and he's fucking
• 33:38
  drawing these women, which is super creepy.
• 33:41
  I'm just saying I'm not trying to shit on Jack, but it's a
• 33:45
  little bit. Suspect you're reading a little
• 33:47
  bit too much subtext into that, because that's, well, it's not
• 33:49
  cancelled. Like I said, go to a random
• 33:51
  woman in the street and be like, I'm an artist, here's my
• 33:53
  drawings. I want to draw you feeding your
• 33:55
  baby from your tit. They're going to get the fuck
• 33:57
  out of here. They're going to call the police
• 34:00
  like right away. Anyways, I have more.
• 34:02
  I'm not done now this is the cake.
• 34:05
  This is my hottest cancelled or classic.
• 34:09
  Imagine Rose had armpit hair and he drew the armpit hair into the
• 34:16
  drawing because some of his drawings the girls had armpit
• 34:22
  hair. Yeah, cause I think that was a
• 34:23
  thing in France. I know, but.
• 34:26
  It was the norm. No Imagine though, that Rose had
• 34:28
  it in the movie. She didn't, but imagine she did.
• 34:31
  Would have. Would Jack have drawn it too?
• 34:33
  Because maybe that was a conversation with James Cameron.
• 34:36
  He's like, should we give her armpit hair?
• 34:38
  Should we not? Because it's going to be really
• 34:40
  fucking distracting when they find the painting or the drawing
• 34:43
  in the water and they clean it up in the opening of the movie.
• 34:46
  And she just got this fucking hairy Bush under her bed.
• 34:49
  No one's gonna be looking at her or the stove.
• 34:51
  Be like what is that? She's a redhead too, so it would
• 34:54
  have been like. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 34:56
  They're gonna. It would be way too distracting,
• 34:59
  like it would have fucked up the movie.
• 35:01
  So James comes like, yeah, she shaves, it's all good.
• 35:04
  Or she doesn't have any. Well, like I said, she's only
• 35:07
  17, so maybe she doesn't have that much.
• 35:12
  Oh my baby. False alarm.
• 35:18
  I don't know. Let's see.
• 35:25
  No, no, she's up. We'll be right back.
• 35:29
  We'll be back. OK, babies, back down.
• 35:34
  She OK, she was fine, she needed her pussy and she needed me to
• 35:38
  stroke her hair for her for a couple minutes to calm her down
• 35:41
  and then she ripped a couple of huge farts and fell right back.
• 35:46
  Asleep. Yeah, it's usually the gas that
• 35:48
  wakes her. Up.
• 35:49
  Do you imagine the waking up and the passkey being knocked out of
• 35:52
  her mouth because she drops the pass out of her mouth when she
• 35:55
  falls asleep a lot so she needs it?
• 35:56
  She rips ass sometimes and she sleeps.
• 35:59
  I mean it's a fact of life, OK? Can you watch this with your
• 36:04
  parents? I'd like to start this.
• 36:08
  OK. To quote To quote Tony Montana,
• 36:13
  no, fuck no. But it depends on the parents.
• 36:18
  I mean the naked drawing scene and the sex scene would be
• 36:23
  uncomfortable to watch with parents.
• 36:26
  Um it's not that bad, but her boobies are out for a while in
• 36:30
  the drawing scene and most parents are probably Fast
• 36:32
  forward through it. Mine would.
• 36:34
  Yeah, like I said, when I went and saw it in theatres, my my
• 36:37
  eyes were covered. Yeah, well, there's a lot of,
• 36:39
  there's a full out, full frontal shot of her.
• 36:41
  Yeah, the sex scene actually is not that graphic.
• 36:47
  Yeah, it's not. It shows them quaking after but
• 36:50
  it doesn't like show like. Quaking.
• 36:52
  It doesn't show him like actually having sex with her
• 36:55
  cause that would be kind of weird.
• 36:57
  Clicking. Yeah, cause we're like shaking
• 37:00
  ohe in this way. So yeah, it's it would be
• 37:04
  uncomfortable to watch with the Yeah, it would be uncomfortable
• 37:07
  to watch the parents. But I did just wanna know.
• 37:10
  You told me this in the naked drawing scene.
• 37:12
  That's James Cameron drawing the picture.
• 37:15
  Yeah, those are his hands. Talk about God giving with both
• 37:19
  hands. He is an amazing director.
• 37:21
  He wrote this movie, so he's an amazing writer and he is an
• 37:25
  artist. Yeah, fuck off.
• 37:28
  But he can't keep, he can't keep a woman he's like married four
• 37:31
  times, divorced four times. Ohf for real.
• 37:33
  Yeah, I think it's four. Yeah, he's.
• 37:35
  Oht he's really good at writing. Professional, professional
• 37:37
  divorcer, Yeah, but he's a fucking amazing, amazing brain.
• 37:42
  Amazing. Talent.
• 37:42
  Oh my gosh, I I want to lick his brain.
• 37:44
  It's so can you watch this with your parents?
• 37:47
  I say no, fuck no, but depends on the parents.
• 37:50
  I mean, it's it's funny. This movie, it didn't really you
• 37:55
  didn't need the nudity like you could have easily had her like a
• 38:00
  a back shot to Jack. She lays down, it cuts to her
• 38:04
  face like it just crops into her face because there's a lot of
• 38:06
  cropping in on Jack's face. It's.
• 38:08
  Tastefully done though, I think. I mean, depends who you talk to.
• 38:12
  I mean, it's a love story. There's gonna be some nudity and
• 38:16
  love stories and. Lies, and it's artistically
• 38:19
  valid. Sure it's not.
• 38:20
  I'm just saying like if you want to avoid that whole thing, it
• 38:22
  could have been cut out completely.
• 38:25
  I I think it adds something yeah but yeah with with even with
• 38:29
  more liberal chill parents yeah it's still uncomfortable to see
• 38:33
  sexual things sitting with your parents.
• 38:35
  So no, you can't really watch this with your parents.
• 38:38
  Maybe as an adult it's a little bit less weird, but definitely
• 38:41
  if you're. A kid, I mean, I watched it with
• 38:42
  my mom and you just cover your eyes or someone covers your eyes
• 38:45
  during that seeing your Fast forward.
• 38:47
  So yeah, you could. Yeah, you can't watch.
• 38:48
  It yeah, it's still a good movie.
• 38:50
  Yeah, it depends on the favorite and least favorite supporting
• 38:53
  character. You go ahead.
• 38:55
  Alright so this is actually funny.
• 38:58
  This is the first time I'm picking a woman because the
• 39:00
  first 3 movies we did were very male heavy.
• 39:03
  OK so my favorite supporting character in the Titanic is the
• 39:06
  unsinkable Molly Brown. OK she's so iconic.
• 39:11
  She carries her own bags onto the ship and drops them and
• 39:16
  she's like see it wasn't that hard boys.
• 39:18
  Like she carries her own bags on Cal is ordering that lamb for
• 39:23
  Rose that she doesn't want and she smiles from across the
• 39:25
  table. She goes.
• 39:26
  You gotta you gotta cut her meat for her to there Cal.
• 39:30
  When they play the trumpets at dinner she says why do they
• 39:33
  always announce dinner like a damn cavalry charge?
• 39:36
  She's just like she's a teddy bear among Grizzlies and she's
• 39:39
  the only one willing to help Jack and the only one that has
• 39:43
  any empathy towards him. Like she takes him to her room,
• 39:46
  she lets him borrow her sons clothing because she knows he's
• 39:50
  going to feel more comfortable if he looks the part.
• 39:54
  She sits with him at dinner and he he leans over to her and he's
• 39:57
  like says what's with all these forces?
• 39:58
  She's like just start from the outside and work your way in.
• 40:00
  Like she's very chill. Yeah, because she is.
• 40:03
  She likely because she remembers being poor herself.
• 40:06
  They talk about the fact that she's new money and that she
• 40:10
  used to like, I think her husband her had a farm, I think,
• 40:13
  or something because they struck oil, I believe so their oil
• 40:16
  tycoons. Yeah.
• 40:17
  So she's she's also the only one with the decency to want to go
• 40:22
  back and save some people. Like you said, she says those
• 40:25
  are our men out there. Like come on ladies, grab an
• 40:27
  orange. She gets absolutely told to just
• 40:29
  STFU by the people on the boat and nobody agrees with her.
• 40:34
  Yeah, she's, I wrote this down here.
• 40:36
  I just like Kathy Bates is a G. She's a GG.
• 40:39
  She's a great actress, and she's like hers.
• 40:41
  Her small part in this movie is very memorable.
• 40:44
  She's not in every scene. She's not a huge part of the
• 40:46
  movie, but every time she's on screen, she's captivating.
• 40:49
  Yeah. And I just wanted to throw.
• 40:52
  Sorry. I'll send it to you in a minute,
• 40:53
  but I just want to throw one on April Munchen to Mr. Andrews and
• 40:57
  Tommy. Truly our IP to both of those
• 41:00
  characters because they're both. Mr. Andrews is so kind and sweet
• 41:04
  and like open and just like a genuine person.
• 41:08
  And Tommy's just a badass who just wants to help people.
• 41:11
  So our IP goes 22 gems. It was a tough one for me.
• 41:14
  I was going to put Kathy Bates character.
• 41:16
  Oh, really? Yeah, but I actually went with
• 41:18
  Mr. Andrews. Like, you know what, Every scene
• 41:22
  this guy's in, he seems like a genuine person who is just there
• 41:27
  to like he's just trying to build a ship to make people feel
• 41:30
  safe, to get people from point A to point B is always like, you
• 41:35
  know, he keeps it real. He keeps it 100 with everybody
• 41:39
  with rows about the lifeboats, you know about, you know, get
• 41:43
  off the ship. The ship's about to sink.
• 41:45
  It's gonna take two hours. Like he doesn't pussy foot
• 41:47
  around anything. And he doesn't even try to save
• 41:49
  himself. He doesn't even think of.
• 41:50
  It Yeah, he just keeps it 100% every time.
• 41:54
  And of all the people in the ship, like there's a bunch of
• 41:58
  bullshitters on the ship, you got Rose.
• 42:01
  She lies, you know, she lies to Cow.
• 42:04
  Cow is a shithead. His assistant guy is a shithead.
• 42:09
  Jack, he's a good guy, but he makes stuff up.
• 42:12
  He lies. You know he you know he doesn't
• 42:14
  sorry. He doesn't lie.
• 42:14
  He just like. He steals.
• 42:17
  Was he still? He stole that jacket.
• 42:19
  Ohe yeah, he stole the coat. So, you know, the mom is an
• 42:23
  asshole. Kathy Bates is a gem.
• 42:26
  But Mr. Andrews, like he, he, you know, he keeps it real.
• 42:29
  He stands out in the. Movie.
• 42:30
  I really like him. Yeah, he's very.
• 42:32
  He seems like a pure guy. And then at the end of the
• 42:34
  movie, when everything's gone to shit, the ship's about to sink.
• 42:38
  Like he's leaning up against the fireplace in like the, I guess
• 42:42
  the lounge area, and there's a whiskey glass that just slides
• 42:48
  off of the mantle because the ship is tilting.
• 42:52
  And he's like, I'm not even gonna try to save myself.
• 42:55
  And he just, he reaches up and he sets the clock for the time
• 42:58
  that it was about to sing. Yeah, yeah, I like Mr. Andrews.
• 43:01
  Who's your least favorite? So this was a toss up for me,
• 43:06
  and I know that Cal is technically one of the main
• 43:08
  characters, but it's a toss up between Cal and Rose's mother.
• 43:13
  Yeah, they're like friends and they're both terrible.
• 43:16
  Like they always have their arms linked and they're like
• 43:19
  conspiring together to ruin Rose's life.
• 43:21
  They're terrible. Cal is is terrifying. 2 rows.
• 43:26
  She's afraid of him. He's pestering a 17 year old for
• 43:30
  sex before they're married. And he's he's having violent
• 43:34
  outbursts. He throws the tea table.
• 43:37
  He slaps the shit out of her when she comes back after
• 43:41
  cheating on him with Jack. And yeah, he's just, he's just a
• 43:47
  shitty guy. He's he's too rough.
• 43:49
  He's he's too mean. I don't like him.
• 43:52
  I mean, she didn't just go out and fuck around, she went out
• 43:56
  and fucked anybody and she's engaged.
• 43:59
  So I said she cheated on him. No, I know, I'm saying like the
• 44:01
  slap part. It wasn't warranted.
• 44:04
  That was he thought it was too hard.
• 44:05
  I mean that's fucked up bro. That's next level.
• 44:10
  Like hanging out with the guy, dancing OK but you don't bang
• 44:13
  them and then let him dry you naked.
• 44:15
  That's next. She let him draw her naked, and
• 44:18
  then she begged. Him.
• 44:19
  OK, whatever. Doesn't matter what order it's
• 44:21
  in. No, I'm just OK but.
• 44:23
  Sure, sure. Cal sucks, I think we can all
• 44:26
  agree with that. And then the mother, she's very
• 44:29
  stuck up. She talks down to people.
• 44:31
  She's lazy cause she just wants Rose to to marry someone rich
• 44:36
  and she wants to ride on her daughter's coattails.
• 44:39
  She's very selfish. She expects her daughter to pay
• 44:43
  for her mistakes. It was her mistake to marry
• 44:46
  DeWitt Bukater who left her destitute.
• 44:49
  That was her mistake. If she has to go work as a
• 44:52
  seamstress to make up for it or go marry a rich husband herself,
• 44:56
  she can do that. But no, she's forcing her young
• 44:59
  daughter into this life that she doesn't want, and she's so
• 45:03
  unhappy to the point where she wants to kill herself.
• 45:05
  And the mother knows that she sucks.
• 45:09
  Yeah, the mom sucks. She's the worst.
• 45:11
  Yeah. That's Yeah, that's a tough one,
• 45:13
  man. I I got two people that like
• 45:16
  it's it's neck and neck. I'm gonna go callous assistant.
• 45:21
  Yeah, he's like that. I don't know if there's a
• 45:24
  saying, but the only thing worse than a person that's shitty is
• 45:27
  the person that works with the shitty person.
• 45:30
  You know what I mean? Maybe that's just something I
• 45:32
  just made-up, but like, this guy knows how devious and, like,
• 45:37
  shitty Cal is, and he's just like, yeah, he's just relishes
• 45:41
  in it. I'll do that for you.
• 45:42
  I'll take care of that. I'm gonna tie up a little kid to
• 45:46
  a fucking basement room in a sinking ship and just leave them
• 45:52
  there. Yeah, and he knows the ship
• 45:54
  singing cause he's rolling around with the bullet.
• 45:57
  The bullets is like rolling off the table.
• 45:59
  He's just chilling and he just gets up and leaves like he's
• 46:02
  like you're gonna die here no problem.
• 46:04
  And then he's shitty at his job on top of that cause Jack just
• 46:10
  shows up later with Rose because Rose gets him out and Cal looks
• 46:14
  at him like how the fuck did he get?
• 46:16
  Out plus they evaded him when he was trying.
• 46:18
  When they went off to have sex in the car, they completely
• 46:20
  escaped it. Yeah, like this guy not only is
• 46:22
  a shitty person, but he's really bad at his job, you know what I
• 46:26
  mean? Like, and the fact is, yeah,
• 46:30
  Rose is a fucking miserable person and she trying to kill
• 46:34
  herself. I mean, the writings on the wall
• 46:37
  and Jack saved her and this guy's like all this is like
• 46:40
  worried about is funny how you had time to take off your boots,
• 46:45
  you know, if she slips so suddenly.
• 46:47
  That's just showing that he's a detective and that he sees.
• 46:49
  Detective Smectite, he's through the he's a deck.
• 46:52
  It's a close race between him and Jumanji dad, Jumanji dad.
• 46:57
  This fucking guy, Mr. Ismay, all he cares about, all he cares
• 47:02
  about is his headlines. And every time I saw him, all I
• 47:06
  could think of was you must not get on the boot, you must not
• 47:10
  get off the ship or whatever. Like he was just like all I
• 47:14
  thought about it was him in a fez in The Mummy.
• 47:17
  And he's shitty in Jumanji too. He's he's the worst dad in
• 47:21
  Jumanji. And he it, it shows that he
• 47:25
  really understands what he did wrong.
• 47:27
  He gets on a life boat. The captain shares a look.
• 47:30
  Fucking escapes. He should go down with the ship
• 47:33
  with Mr. Andrews, but he's secretly gets on the ship and
• 47:36
  one of the cap, one of the like, I don't know what you call it,
• 47:39
  assistant captains on the ship. He sees him and gives him his
• 47:42
  dirty look. Like you piece of shit like you
• 47:44
  should be going down with. This OK, but it's the captain's
• 47:47
  fault because he No, no, no, yes it.
• 47:49
  Is this guy bullied him into fucking going?
• 47:51
  Fast, he said. Imagine the headlines.
• 47:53
  Imagine ending your retirement. The captain is the one who is
• 47:57
  responsible, for sure, for everyone on the ship, for sure.
• 48:00
  And he chose to go full steam. Ahead like they told this guy
• 48:03
  this ship is made of basically like it's impossible.
• 48:06
  Like how many times they say in the movie Gordon solve could not
• 48:09
  sink the ship. It's like, OK bro, a little bit
• 48:13
  asking for it, you know what I mean?
• 48:15
  Like chill rolling, coming out. It's the, it's the maiden
• 48:17
  voyage. It's not like you're 20th round
• 48:20
  across the Atlantic. Like, calm down.
• 48:22
  Alright, I see your point. That's true.
• 48:24
  It's me and the cows assistant. I just they're both the the
• 48:31
  worst, worst levels of people. They, they, they, they, they're
• 48:35
  not as bad as Rose's mom. Rose's mom is the ultimate.
• 48:38
  Yeah, she's a she's a succubus. Yeah, she even at that one
• 48:42
  scene, she's like, oh, Kathy Bates characters coming in the
• 48:45
  room. She's like, hurry up, let's
• 48:46
  leave so don't have to fucking drink tea with her.
• 48:48
  Yeah, that's fucked up. She wouldn't enjoy someone as
• 48:50
  epic as Kathy. Back and Kathy was like, I gotta
• 48:52
  catch up on my gossip because she knows these bitches talking
• 48:54
  about her. All right, all right, let's move
• 48:56
  on. Let's move on to cultural
• 48:58
  impact. Do you want to go or should I
• 48:59
  go? I'll go first.
• 49:01
  All right, cultural impact. OK, this movie, it was all over
• 49:07
  the place. We talked about it in the
• 49:08
  beginning of the pod and I cannot stress how long this
• 49:12
  movie was in theatres. This movie came out in December
• 49:15
  of 97. It was in theatres for 10
• 49:19
  months. Ten months, Yeah.
• 49:22
  Nowadays, a movie if it, if you're lucky, if you're lucky,
• 49:26
  like a movie like, for example, a big moneymaker.
• 49:29
  Let's go, let's say an Avengers End Game or an Avengers Infinity
• 49:32
  War. That movie will be in theatres
• 49:35
  for. Well that was like 2 months ago
• 49:38
  babe. No, I'm just saying like I'm
• 49:40
  talking about level of popularity where every weekend
• 49:44
  it's still making money. There's no.
• 49:45
  Big drop off Blake, can you miss that some?
• 49:47
  Movies, Avengers Infinity War, like those movies and End Game,
• 49:51
  they were in theatres for like 8 months.
• 49:53
  Sorry, eight months, two months, That's like huge.
• 49:56
  Nowadays, 2 months is a stretch. This movie is in theatres for
• 50:00
  eight months, and back in the day between theatres and home
• 50:04
  video, because there was no streaming, it took so long to
• 50:09
  transfer all the footage to home video because they had to
• 50:12
  generate all the tapes because all analog.
• 50:15
  Yeah, before DVD. It would be like a Gator.
• 50:18
  Yeah, there was a huge gap between theatres and home video,
• 50:21
  so when it came back on home video, it was like a new life
• 50:24
  for the movie. Yeah, it was like a second
• 50:26
  release because everybody released Buster or whatever.
• 50:30
  Runs it like 10 months. I know people that went to this
• 50:33
  movie like 6 times, you know like and it was mostly girls
• 50:37
  because they were all. Trying.
• 50:38
  I was too young to know anybody that song in theatres.
• 50:40
  Like, people went over and over and over to see this movie, and
• 50:44
  then if you weren't watching the movie, the fucking song by
• 50:48
  Céline Dion. My heart will go on.
• 50:52
  Every single word. This song was everywhere it.
• 50:55
  Was good song. Too.
• 50:57
  It was on much music, MTV, TRL, it was on everything all the
• 51:02
  time and then every radio station you put on it was on
• 51:05
  there. It was on there My heart will go
• 51:07
  on by Celine. This song like this is probably
• 51:11
  the first time in history where the song connected to the movie
• 51:17
  almost overshadowed the movie, almost like it was a very close.
• 51:24
  Yeah, but the movie, The movie still stands for.
• 51:26
  Itself soundtrack of the movie was almost as good as the movie.
• 51:30
  It's fucking insane cultural impact.
• 51:33
  A lot of spoofs. They spoofed it in Scary Movie,
• 51:37
  you know with the Amistad 2 because one of the Waynes
• 51:41
  brothers like I'm the king of the world and then he gets
• 51:43
  whipped because he's on Amistad too.
• 51:46
  Like a lot of different spoofs about this movie, mostly by the
• 51:49
  king of the world thing and drying Rose naked.
• 51:52
  Yeah. Go ahead.
• 51:53
  Those were. That's all I got.
• 51:55
  Yeah, those were in a lot of things.
• 51:57
  I just know it definitely made Kate and Leo big stars.
• 52:01
  They got a lot of attention following the movie and
• 52:04
  unfortunately, like women just seem to get the shit end of the
• 52:08
  stick a lot of the times. Kate Winslet got a lot of
• 52:10
  negative comments about her body following the film.
• 52:13
  There's actually a new an e-news clip from 1998 Golden Globes red
• 52:18
  carpet where an on air host could be heard saying the
• 52:21
  actress looked a little melted and poured into her dress and
• 52:26
  that she needed it 2 sizes larger and she'd be OK.
• 52:30
  Like she was a little thick. Thick.
• 52:31
  She's a little thick. Yeah, but.
• 52:33
  She had boobs and her. Yeah, nowadays that's that's
• 52:36
  that's a healthy woman. Yeah.
• 52:38
  She's in the 90s. Perfectly healthy and honestly
• 52:41
  slim. Yeah, because the 90s, it was
• 52:42
  all about the sticks, like Courtney Cox.
• 52:44
  And she got shit for having boobs in an ass.
• 52:47
  Like, yeah, I know she was. She wasn't even.
• 52:49
  She wasn't even pushing on. Overweight.
• 52:50
  No, I know, I know. We see her bare naked in
• 52:53
  Titanic. She has a wonderful physique,
• 52:55
  but yeah, she got some shit after the movie.
• 52:59
  About her physique. It put Titanic, the disaster on
• 53:07
  the map, which I think is kind of unique.
• 53:09
  Like not everyone would know about this ship sinking without
• 53:12
  this film bringing the history to the forefront.
• 53:15
  So seeing the period piece and seeing, I mean, there were some
• 53:19
  historical inaccuracies, but. Go ahead.
• 53:22
  But it really brought the disaster to the forefront, so
• 53:26
  everybody knows about it. Another thing about the cultural
• 53:29
  impact. So the Internet wasn't a huge
• 53:31
  thing in 9798. So when people watch this movie,
• 53:36
  there was this blurred line between, oh, it's a true story
• 53:40
  because the Titanic sunk, and this how many people died?
• 53:43
  But also people thought that Rose and Jack were real people
• 53:48
  on the ship. That was a real thing.
• 53:50
  There were real people though. Molly Brown was a real person
• 53:52
  for sure. The captain was a real person.
• 53:54
  The line was blurred. So people literally like, people
• 53:57
  saw this movie and that's another reason why it had the
• 54:01
  Blair Witch effect where people were so overwhelmed and like,
• 54:07
  you know, infatuated with this idea that two people fell in
• 54:11
  love and it was tragic and kind of like a Romeo and Juliet
• 54:14
  situation. They thought it was real and it
• 54:17
  was that's that's part of the marketing.
• 54:19
  Like people really thought this happened.
• 54:22
  Yeah, they took, they took a real disaster that happened and
• 54:25
  they implanted A fictional love story.
• 54:29
  But they can't do that anymore. The Internet ruins.
• 54:31
  Everything they did some things in the movie that people were
• 54:34
  upset about, like, you know, the the officer that shoots himself
• 54:37
  in the head. Yeah, he, he, he never shot
• 54:40
  himself in the head. He was very heroic when the
• 54:42
  Titanic went down and he did die with the ship.
• 54:45
  So his family was upset that he was portrayed that way as.
• 54:48
  They used his name in the. Movie, yeah, he's a real person
• 54:50
  and they showed him killing two people and then killing himself,
• 54:52
  which is not accurate. That didn't happen.
• 54:55
  So there were some things people got upset about.
• 54:58
  While praised for its spectacle, it faced critiques for
• 55:01
  historical accuracies and melodrama.
• 55:03
  Yet it is recognized for creating an emotional connection
• 55:06
  to history. Yeah, that's what I just read,
• 55:08
  an article by CBC. Soundtrack, like I said earlier,
• 55:15
  probably the greatest song for any movie ever made.
• 55:18
  I gotta do it, babe. Doo Doo Doo.
• 55:22
  Hulu. Every night in my.
• 55:34
  Dream OK, her accent is OK. Stop.
• 55:37
  How dare you, she's French. Canadian.
• 55:42
  Yeah, I know, Sally. Her accent is not that big.
• 55:45
  Chili's the goat man. Yeah, it's yeah, the soundtrack.
• 55:49
  James Horner you fucking magician.
• 55:51
  RIP. OK, this guy composed all the
• 55:55
  music and the main theme he did and they turned the main theme
• 55:59
  into her song. Yeah, it's it's absolutely
• 56:02
  iconic. All it takes is hearing a few
• 56:04
  notes and it takes you to to Titanic.
• 56:06
  You've played it on your keyboard before.
• 56:08
  Yeah, it's, it's, it's the best fucking TuneIn like in ages.
• 56:12
  It's it's, it's memorable. You know exactly what it's from,
• 56:16
  you know, and it's just it gets you right in the fields every.
• 56:20
  Time recognizable and so familiar for people that grew up
• 56:24
  during that time as well. From the theme to the music of
• 56:27
  the third class party to the original song by Céline Dion,
• 56:30
  every piece of music attached to this movie truly adds something.
• 56:36
  Yeah, we we sat there and quietly watched the credits and
• 56:39
  listened to My Heart will go On after watching this.
• 56:41
  We just finished it last night. Ohe yeah.
• 56:44
  And it this song pulls you in. Oh yeah, the movie ends.
• 56:47
  It's a somber ending and then the music plays and it really
• 56:52
  just you really absorb the movie.
• 56:56
  With the credits, so it's a perfect.
• 56:58
  Theme fucking James Cameron magician just melding everything
• 57:02
  together. The sky is something else, man.
• 57:04
  I agree. OK, who gets the spin-off, if
• 57:08
  anyone? I have 3.
• 57:10
  OHS fart I have I go ahead. So I wanna Molly brown prequel
• 57:16
  to see her before she's rich and see how she gets rich and
• 57:19
  becomes a part of high society because that would be cool.
• 57:22
  I think you could almost be a comedy like show her like kind
• 57:25
  of bumbling and stumbling through high society and finding
• 57:27
  her way. A Jack prequel from his time in
• 57:30
  France drawing naked ladies and being an.
• 57:32
  Artist. I like that I'm all for Jack
• 57:34
  prequel. Anna Rose sequel of making it on
• 57:39
  her own in New York and going on all the adventures she and Jack
• 57:43
  talked about horseback riding on the beach, riding roller
• 57:45
  coasters, meeting her husband and finding love again.
• 57:48
  It could be like a very like a a redemption story for her after
• 57:53
  everything that happened. Yeah, that's a good point.
• 57:56
  I was thinking maybe like a sequel but based on a few
• 58:01
  characters that we meet across the ship, but after, so like
• 58:07
  right after they they they survive.
• 58:10
  You do like a five part miniseries and each character
• 58:14
  would have one episode. Yeah, you follow them.
• 58:16
  Yeah, and it would be like, it wouldn't be a movie.
• 58:18
  It would. Characters.
• 58:20
  Though, so I was thinking some of the little like the some of
• 58:24
  the little kids that survive, like the one that Cal saves,
• 58:30
  like she obviously doesn't have her parents.
• 58:32
  She find her parents. Like I want to know what happens
• 58:34
  to her because he's not gonna fucking take care of her.
• 58:36
  He's a piece of shit. So like what happens to her?
• 58:39
  What happens to Mr. Ismay? Cause he know everybody knows
• 58:45
  he's responsible for that chip and he somehow survives as he go
• 58:48
  like hide, does he change his name?
• 58:50
  Does anything? What is his repercussion?
• 58:52
  Like what? What happens to him?
• 58:53
  Yeah, you know what I mean? Like I want to know what happens
• 58:55
  to this asshole. I want to know what happens to
• 58:58
  cow. Like I don't need to see a
• 58:59
  movie. I want to.
• 59:00
  See what they say. He got hit really bad with the
• 59:02
  Great Depression and kills. Himself.
• 59:04
  I wanna see that. I wanna see the cause you know,
• 59:07
  some of the, the, the one thing about this movie, you don't see
• 59:09
  it a lot in movies. The bad characters, the, the,
• 59:13
  the bad people don't get their comeuppance in this movie.
• 59:19
  And some of the bad people do. Some of the good people don't
• 59:24
  get, you know, they're, you know, they don't catch their
• 59:28
  break, like Jack doesn't really catch his break, you know?
• 59:33
  Well, he died. Roses.
• 59:34
  I know, that's what I mean. Like Fabrizio doesn't catch his
• 59:37
  break, Cal survives, Roses Mom survives.
• 59:42
  You know what I mean? Like the shitty people.
• 59:43
  I wanna see what happens to these assholes.
• 59:46
  So that that's my spinoff. I can't really give it a movie
• 59:49
  sequel because it's we. We know so much about these
• 59:53
  characters, and for a lot of them, it seems like this is the
• 59:57
  most epic and most interesting part of their lives.
• 1:00:00
  I don't think, like, Rose probably had a really nice life
• 1:00:03
  after, but I don't think it's worth to watch in the movie, you
• 1:00:06
  know what I mean? She did all the things that she
• 1:00:08
  wanted to do that Jack was like, oh, I'm gonna take horse backing
• 1:00:10
  riding and. Riding, yeah, just saying we
• 1:00:12
  could go on that adventure with. Her sure.
• 1:00:14
  I don't know if it's a movie, maybe like a mini series, but.
• 1:00:18
  Maybe, yeah. OK, what's your double feature?
• 1:00:21
  So the movies runtime is 3 hours and 14 minutes.
• 1:00:25
  You can't watch another movie after this.
• 1:00:27
  You wanna go to bed and cry yourself to sleep after this
• 1:00:30
  movie because you've just been emotionally rocked.
• 1:00:32
  That being said, I did note a couple movies that I think could
• 1:00:37
  could kind of pair with it, though it would be hard to watch
• 1:00:39
  them in a row. So if watching the Titanic is
• 1:00:43
  put you in a little bit of a disaster movie mood, you can
• 1:00:47
  watch The Day After Tomorrow following Panic.
• 1:00:50
  OK, If you're in a romantic mood after the movie, you can watch
• 1:00:54
  The Notebook. And if you just want to watch a
• 1:00:57
  Titanic RIP off, OK, you can watch Pearl Harbor.
• 1:01:02
  So it's the same. Movie.
• 1:01:05
  Pearl Harbor, I guess. Yeah, they were trying to make
• 1:01:07
  that. Pizza, the same.
• 1:01:08
  Yeah, yeah, I would. For me I said no need this is 2
• 1:01:14
  full movies. The first half is an awesome
• 1:01:17
  love story and the second-half is a horror slash disaster
• 1:01:21
  movie. You kill two birds with one
• 1:01:23
  stone and it's like it literally flips like a switch.
• 1:01:28
  The movie as soon as the iceberg hits the whole vibe changes and
• 1:01:32
  I have a few notes about it later that I noticed for the
• 1:01:35
  first time this time watching it.
• 1:01:39
  OK leave a pen, you take a penny.
• 1:01:41
  What scene are you taking out? What scene do you want to put
• 1:01:43
  in? So I didn't want to take
• 1:01:46
  anything out except I we talked about we could take this fitting
• 1:01:49
  scene. Out.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, I wanna take that out too. The spitting scene, yeah, but
• 1:01:54
  it's such a perfect movie. I don't really want to take
• 1:01:56
  anything else out. I've I really thought about
• 1:01:58
  what's a bad scene in this movie.
• 1:01:59
  There isn't 1. All of the scenes build up the
• 1:02:02
  characters, all of the scenes add to their arcs.
• 1:02:05
  But something that I don't think that we see necessarily enough
• 1:02:08
  of is the accommodations in 3rd class.
• 1:02:13
  No, it never shows them eating. It never shows it doesn't.
• 1:02:17
  It doesn't. Show, but nobody wants to see
• 1:02:19
  that. Yeah, but it's still a luxury
• 1:02:20
  five star cruise that they paid for tickets to.
• 1:02:23
  So they're they're still being served by for sure.
• 1:02:25
  So I wanna see what that looks like.
• 1:02:27
  The whole point of the movie. It's a step down, but there's
• 1:02:30
  still passengers. Yeah, they're still being.
• 1:02:32
  Worked on like it's about the excess, the the ship is bigger
• 1:02:36
  than it needs to be. It's got things that you don't
• 1:02:38
  need. That's the whole point.
• 1:02:41
  And you see the the, the grand ballroom and all these things
• 1:02:43
  like nobody wants it. Like we see when he gets a room,
• 1:02:46
  it's basically like, you know, a modern day cruise.
• 1:02:50
  Ship just for the compare and contrast like they should have
• 1:02:53
  showed them in their dining room at least a couple times.
• 1:02:55
  So we know what that looked like.
• 1:02:56
  We don't know. We have no idea what.
• 1:02:57
  It looked like I see it wasn't in the movie and I don't see a
• 1:03:00
  need for it, but you do. I just wanted to know because
• 1:03:03
  it's a period piece. Like just out of historical
• 1:03:05
  curiosity, what is a third class ticket by you?
• 1:03:08
  How different is it? That's probably shitty.
• 1:03:10
  I'd like a little, you know, I'd like a little camera contrast
• 1:03:13
  here, but that's just me. What about you?
• 1:03:16
  I would take away the spitting scene.
• 1:03:19
  I would put, well, I would remix it.
• 1:03:21
  I would have them talking and then they run into the mom and
• 1:03:26
  Molly Brown before dinner. Yeah, they.
• 1:03:28
  Don't they? Spinning needs to go.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah, the. Spinning the whole sequence of
• 1:03:31
  spitting. I agree needs to fuck off.
• 1:03:34
  Add a scene. I would put.
• 1:03:36
  Actually, I want to see Jack and Fabrizio a little bit earlier,
• 1:03:44
  before they were playing cards. I just.
• 1:03:47
  Wanna how they became friends? Yeah, just like a couple of
• 1:03:49
  scenes. Doesn't have to be like maybe 1
• 1:03:51
  scene, like maybe a Jack could be telling a funny story or
• 1:03:54
  something like that and then you know, something just to show
• 1:03:57
  their friendship because they really gloss over that really.
• 1:04:00
  Fast, he said he like, made money working in a steel mill or
• 1:04:02
  something. That's probably where he met for
• 1:04:04
  Brizio. Yeah, but I didn't really like
• 1:04:06
  Fabricio gets killed in a really horrible way.
• 1:04:08
  And I was like, yeah, I felt worse for the Irish.
• 1:04:11
  Guy know? Him, Tommy.
• 1:04:12
  I felt worse for him. Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  You know, like when you get shot.
• 1:04:16
  I felt worse for him than for Vizio.
• 1:04:19
  No offensive Fabrizio RP. But anyway, it's pretty perfect
• 1:04:23
  movie. So it's hard to find a spot
• 1:04:25
  where you're like, oh, this needs to.
• 1:04:26
  Go yeah, I don't really want to take anything out.
• 1:04:28
  So good lazy Sunday vibes. So only the first half is Lazy
• 1:04:33
  Sunday Vice read the first tape. Like if you had the two VHS
• 1:04:36
  tapes, the first tape is the love story.
• 1:04:38
  The second tape was the disaster movie.
• 1:04:40
  If it randomly comes on TV and it's mid disaster, I'm not going
• 1:04:44
  to sit there and watch it. I have to turn it off because
• 1:04:46
  you have to emotionally prepare yourself for the absolute
• 1:04:49
  turmoil you're going to go through during the disaster
• 1:04:52
  scene. Whereas if I turn it on, it's
• 1:04:54
  mid romance. Yeah, yeah, I'll watch this for
• 1:04:56
  a little bit. Like you can casually watch it.
• 1:04:58
  A Lazy Sunday movie has to be something you can casually
• 1:05:00
  watch. The second-half of the movie
• 1:05:03
  puts you through the emotional trigger, so you cannot casually
• 1:05:06
  watch that. Yeah, you have to turn it off.
• 1:05:08
  So it's not a lazy Sunday movie. So this movie, I'll give it lazy
• 1:05:13
  Sunday approval, but like you said, it's it gets very
• 1:05:18
  treacherous near the end of the movie.
• 1:05:21
  But it's a lazy Sunday if you have time because it's three
• 1:05:24
  hours long. So you could get a lot done
• 1:05:27
  while this movie is just playing in the background.
• 1:05:30
  Moving in the background, babe. You can, yeah, but if you if you
• 1:05:34
  can't just sit and watch that, it's gonna burn your whole.
• 1:05:36
  After you said at the beginning of this podcast, you need just
• 1:05:38
  sit there, put your phone down. And you've never seen it.
• 1:05:41
  I said if you never seen it for the first time, for the first
• 1:05:44
  time, you need to give it your undivided attention.
• 1:05:46
  If you've seen it, you know the beats.
• 1:05:48
  It's just another walk. In the passively watch this
• 1:05:50
  movie, that's at least not the disaster part.
• 1:05:53
  Because you can't multitask. So the.
• 1:05:56
  Movie alias, go ahead. As I have a few, I don't think
• 1:06:01
  anything touches Titanic. It's a perfect title.
• 1:06:05
  It's it doesn't give too much away.
• 1:06:07
  OK, so I just threw a few out there that could possibly work.
• 1:06:12
  Unsinkable ship is one OK Jack and Rose give a little bit of a
• 1:06:20
  like frozen Jack like flirty Harry met Sally vibe.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah, Rosen Jacks sounds a little prettier.
• 1:06:26
  Yeah, either way Iceberg, but that kind of gives away.
• 1:06:30
  Iceberg. And maiden voyage.
• 1:06:34
  Maiden voyage isn't bad. None of them touched Titanic.
• 1:06:37
  Yeah, Titanic. So I got some.
• 1:06:39
  I couldn't think of anything serious.
• 1:06:40
  I mean, they're close. This most serious one I have is
• 1:06:43
  The Ship of Dreams. Oh, that would work.
• 1:06:46
  Like that one. Yeah, that's good.
• 1:06:48
  You know, it's like she walks into a dream and meets the guy
• 1:06:51
  ever dreams, you know, and then it becomes a nightmare.
• 1:06:54
  But I got a couple of funny ones just because because it's huge
• 1:06:59
  Trojan Excel. Yeah, but tighten already, Titan
• 1:07:04
  Titanic. I know Trojan XL it's a general
• 1:07:07
  no thick tanic because she big because you see, because the ass
• 1:07:13
  goes up right and he's describing how it like starts to
• 1:07:15
  sink. Yeah, right.
• 1:07:16
  So the front goes down and then the the the the back goes up.
• 1:07:20
  She's got her whole ass in here. Whole ass in the air.
• 1:07:22
  She got a big ass, right? So thick Tanic.
• 1:07:27
  But yeah, that's all I got. OK, shower thoughts?
• 1:07:30
  What are we doing here? So I have a few we we touched on
• 1:07:32
  a few. So I'll just go through some of
• 1:07:34
  the ones that we didn't bring up.
• 1:07:36
  Um, what the fuck right Does Bill Paxton have to the diamond?
• 1:07:40
  Does Cal not have errors like errors that could claim it if it
• 1:07:43
  was found? They claim it on insurance as a
• 1:07:46
  loss. So what does that mean?
• 1:07:47
  It's bouncy now for pirates. It's loss.
• 1:07:50
  I mean, yeah, I think it's fair game.
• 1:07:52
  It's in the ocean. You can just find it.
• 1:07:55
  So you can they just take it. Yeah, it's Finders Keepers.
• 1:07:59
  I don't know. I feel like that, like as soon
• 1:08:00
  as he gets it up there, there's gonna be lawsuits getting
• 1:08:02
  slapping like that does not belong.
• 1:08:04
  To Paxton RIP. He's getting paid by these rich
• 1:08:07
  people that know about it probably like diamond investors
• 1:08:11
  like like big companies that are paying for him to find it
• 1:08:14
  because it's worth like they're saying it's priceless, which
• 1:08:18
  makes it even worse that you fucking throws in the ocean.
• 1:08:20
  But. Anyway, yeah, it's pretty fucked
• 1:08:22
  up that she does that. Not having enough lifeboats and
• 1:08:27
  boasting the God himself could not sink this ship is really
• 1:08:30
  asking for it. Yeah, you, you pushing it, man,
• 1:08:32
  You're pushing. It we said that before.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah. I absolutely love the wardrobe
• 1:08:37
  in this movie. Good call.
• 1:08:38
  It's always interesting to see how people dress in period
• 1:08:41
  pieces like this. The Cruise uniforms are so crisp
• 1:08:45
  and white and even that guy working under deck is in like a
• 1:08:48
  full suit when he's working on. Like, it's just, it's so proper
• 1:08:52
  and classic. Rose has some absolutely
• 1:08:57
  stunning looks. She wears some gorgeous dresses.
• 1:09:00
  The beaded dress she wears when she's gonna jump off the back of
• 1:09:02
  the boat is it's a piece of art. Not my favorite.
• 1:09:06
  The ethereal flowing dress she wears at the sex scene is
• 1:09:10
  beautiful when it's flowing behind her when they're running
• 1:09:12
  through the cold together. Oh yeah, the pinstripe suit with
• 1:09:16
  the purple hat she wears while boarding the ship.
• 1:09:18
  That's my favorite. Her wardrobe.
• 1:09:21
  Is an entrance to the. Movie her wardrobe is.
• 1:09:23
  Impossible. It's impeccable, it's memorable,
• 1:09:25
  and it made me wanna beat her as a little girl.
• 1:09:28
  Just seeing the amazing, the amazing outfits that she wore.
• 1:09:32
  It's, it's, it's great. Um, I really liked when during
• 1:09:38
  the dance scene, the, the party scene in the third class, yeah,
• 1:09:43
  Fabrizio's dancing with a girl and he asks consent before
• 1:09:46
  putting his hands on her to dance.
• 1:09:48
  Oh, he does. Yeah, he says.
• 1:09:49
  It's OK if I put my hand right. Here he said that.
• 1:09:52
  Oh. Yeah, which is very sweet and
• 1:09:55
  especially for that time being considerate of a woman's private
• 1:09:59
  like personal space. It's it's very sweet and I
• 1:10:01
  really liked that Rose is 17 and we see her naked.
• 1:10:08
  Oh yeah? Well.
• 1:10:09
  It feels a bit seedy. Well, another reason to cut it
• 1:10:12
  out. But or don't show the titties.
• 1:10:15
  Just give us a back view of Jack.
• 1:10:17
  Jack's face and her, the back of her head and her back you don't
• 1:10:21
  see. Anything else feels feels a bit
• 1:10:23
  seedy, feels a bit like we're seeing a kid.
• 1:10:26
  Don't, don't love that When Rose spits in Cal's face when she's
• 1:10:32
  running away from the lifeboat. Fucking amazing.
• 1:10:34
  The actor Billy Zane did not know she was going to do that.
• 1:10:37
  She was originally supposed to stab him with a hairpin.
• 1:10:39
  I love it. She improvised it.
• 1:10:41
  So the shock and disgust that you see on his face and that
• 1:10:44
  moment is, is genuine. Yeah, but that when she spit,
• 1:10:48
  that's obviously like back to the spitting scene, but you
• 1:10:52
  didn't need that spitting scene to have her spit on Billy Zane.
• 1:10:56
  But man, that there's some force behind that shit.
• 1:10:59
  Like she almost. Like she really didn't need the
• 1:11:01
  things in cause Jack teaches her spit like.
• 1:11:04
  That you don't. If you really everybody can spit
• 1:11:07
  in someone's face, you don't need to Hock it in there.
• 1:11:09
  It's really fucking disgusting. Yeah, even if you give a little
• 1:11:12
  spit in someone's face, it's really offensive.
• 1:11:14
  That's that's a it's, you know, it's time to fight.
• 1:11:17
  Um, let me, let me, let me get someone.
• 1:11:19
  Hang on, I I just have 111 more. One more, and then I'll pass it
• 1:11:22
  over to you. So when Rose goes to save Jack
• 1:11:26
  and she has the axe. Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  And he tells her to do a couple practice swings.
• 1:11:29
  I when we were watching it, I was like, she misses the second
• 1:11:32
  time. Yeah.
• 1:11:33
  I said to you I would do the exact same thing.
• 1:11:35
  So if it were me, would you trust me?
• 1:11:38
  Well, first of all, I am. The more I watch that scene, the
• 1:11:40
  more I'm like, why? Like obviously they're in a rush
• 1:11:42
  and they're probably tired and fatigued, but I'm like, just
• 1:11:46
  take the axe, hold it up against the chain of the handcuff, like
• 1:11:50
  put it right up against and just do small hits.
• 1:11:54
  Axes are really strong and sharp.
• 1:11:58
  It will break that little. OK, but answer the question.
• 1:12:00
  Would you let me do like she did a huge swing to free you?
• 1:12:03
  Would you trust me? You wouldn't trust me.
• 1:12:06
  You're gonna die. That I would tell you to do it
• 1:12:07
  my way. No, you're going to die down
• 1:12:10
  there. You can insult.
• 1:12:13
  Me, I'm not insulting. You.
• 1:12:15
  She fucking closes her. You asking me would you trust me
• 1:12:18
  just tells me that you can't do it.
• 1:12:21
  She, no, she closes her eyes and she still does it.
• 1:12:23
  She doesn't even look. She closes her eyes, goes whack.
• 1:12:26
  Yeah, it's a movie. And guess what happens?
• 1:12:30
  He ends up dying because she can't fucking move aside on the
• 1:12:33
  on the on the door, OK? Anyway.
• 1:12:37
  My shower thoughts? I got a few here.
• 1:12:39
  This is the modern Romeo and Juliet story when I think about
• 1:12:43
  it. It's not that modern, no.
• 1:12:45
  Come on, it's not Shakespeare bro.
• 1:12:47
  It's still modern. It's the modern era.
• 1:12:49
  RJ has a movie because it's love that, you know, it triumphs over
• 1:12:57
  everything. You know, family gets in the way
• 1:13:00
  and it's forbidden love and you know, it's it's very passionate
• 1:13:06
  and like everybody can kind of like connect with it because
• 1:13:09
  there's always been there. You know, most people have had a
• 1:13:11
  scenario where you know, they, they, they feel, have feelings
• 1:13:16
  for somebody and then it's, you know, it's not, you know, it's
• 1:13:19
  not supposed to be that way or whatever the too young or this
• 1:13:22
  or whatever. I don't know.
• 1:13:24
  You know, they shouldn't be dating.
• 1:13:25
  There's always some kind of speed bump or there with
• 1:13:28
  somebody else. So I think it's a modern Romeo
• 1:13:31
  and Juliet story. Funny part though, Leo was in
• 1:13:35
  the remake of Romeo and Juliet which came out like the year
• 1:13:38
  before. Yeah, which was amazing.
• 1:13:40
  I think it was fucking garbage. I like it.
• 1:13:43
  Well, anyway, just kind of interesting that he made 2R and
• 1:13:47
  Juliet movies. If you think about it two years
• 1:13:50
  apart. Kathy Bates fucking G in this
• 1:13:54
  movie, one of my favorite scenes.
• 1:13:58
  I don't think it's the most iconic, but it's one of my
• 1:14:00
  favorite when she takes Jack and says come with me because like
• 1:14:05
  you look like shit and you were going to dinner because she's
• 1:14:07
  like he is that what you're wearing?
• 1:14:09
  And he's just kind of shrugs and she fucking gives him to borrow
• 1:14:13
  her sons tuxedo and it fits him so sharp and his hair is all
• 1:14:18
  done up. So he obviously like got
• 1:14:20
  showered up. She probably let him use the
• 1:14:22
  bathroom, like the fucking first class bathroom to get all dolled
• 1:14:25
  up. And the guy was looking sharp as
• 1:14:27
  hell, you know? Um, I got a laundry list here,
• 1:14:32
  so we're gonna be here for a while.
• 1:14:33
  Jumanji, Dad, he's fucking back in this movie.
• 1:14:36
  I mentioned him earlier. This guy, what's his name again?
• 1:14:40
  Jonathan High. Jonathan Hyde, amazing.
• 1:14:42
  Character actor. Amazing, but he's always an
• 1:14:47
  uppity douche in the movies. Uh, OK, I gotta question for
• 1:14:51
  you. This is an interesting one
• 1:14:53
  because I'm gonna get a little sappy here because this movie,
• 1:14:56
  it gives you emotional. Damage.
• 1:14:57
  Oh my God, it's emotional damage.
• 1:14:59
  I'm talking about that. In the next segment, when is the
• 1:15:02
  moment your opinion where she falls for Jack?
• 1:15:05
  I think it's a little bit, it's a little bit of him sitting at
• 1:15:10
  that table and then him also taking her to the party.
• 1:15:15
  OK. I think it's twofold because she
• 1:15:16
  falls in love with him a little bit like, wow, he fits into my
• 1:15:19
  world. And then he takes her down to
• 1:15:21
  the to the basement basically for the party.
• 1:15:24
  And she's like, wow, I fit into his world.
• 1:15:26
  OK. So it's her like kind of opening
• 1:15:28
  up and realizing that this is what love is supposed to feel
• 1:15:31
  like and not what she's experiencing with Cal.
• 1:15:34
  That's that's a good call because I'm pretty close.
• 1:15:36
  So I have a distinct moment in the movie where I notice
• 1:15:40
  something for the first time because I'm watching it and I'm
• 1:15:43
  like, when is the moment where she decides that I'm not going
• 1:15:49
  with Cal anymore? This is the guy.
• 1:15:52
  Um, so I'm like the second where he gets.
• 1:15:57
  She looks up at the clock at the top of the stairs and Jack is
• 1:16:00
  waiting for her. No, it was the other way, sorry.
• 1:16:02
  She's at the top of the stairs. She's getting ready for the
• 1:16:04
  dinner party. And Jack is at the bottom and
• 1:16:07
  he's pretending to shake hands and be like, formal.
• 1:16:10
  And she goes to the bottom of the stairs, sees him.
• 1:16:13
  He greets her. He kisses her hand and says, I
• 1:16:16
  saw that in a Nickelodeon once, and I always wanted to do that.
• 1:16:19
  And she chuckles. And then they both turn towards
• 1:16:24
  Col. and her mom. As they turn, his focus is on
• 1:16:28
  them. And if you look at her face, she
• 1:16:31
  has this look on her face like the, I think that's the moment
• 1:16:37
  that she falls for him. It's this distinct look.
• 1:16:40
  She gives him this look like, Oh my God, like this is the moment.
• 1:16:45
  I swear. If you watch it again, we'll
• 1:16:47
  replay that clip. And if you guys are watching the
• 1:16:50
  listeners, when you watch it again, wait for that moment.
• 1:16:53
  You're going to know exactly what I'm talking about.
• 1:16:55
  She has this look on her face. You're like, that's the fucking
• 1:16:58
  look of someone falling in love. It's really.
• 1:17:01
  And I'm like, did James Cameron tell him to?
• 1:17:03
  Do this. She doesn't actually tell him
• 1:17:05
  she's getting off the boat with him or give fully given to it
• 1:17:07
  until he I'm flying scene. I said she falls for him.
• 1:17:11
  Yeah, you can fall for someone and still have reservations.
• 1:17:14
  You just don't realize you're falling for them.
• 1:17:17
  When the as a viewer, I'm watching it, I'm like, this is
• 1:17:21
  the moment that she falls for him, whether she knows it or
• 1:17:23
  not. You know, sometimes people fall
• 1:17:26
  for people and they don't realize.
• 1:17:29
  It yeah, it's a really good performance.
• 1:17:30
  Power and I'm like did is this James Cameron telling her to do
• 1:17:34
  this or is this because. They did.
• 1:17:36
  They did have really good chemistry.
• 1:17:38
  They did. And like a lot of people thought
• 1:17:41
  that they had a little thing off screen because they did another
• 1:17:44
  movie together years later, Revolutionary Rd. because the
• 1:17:47
  chemistry was so. Good, that's about a fucked up
• 1:17:49
  marriage. Ohno I know but I'm saying like
• 1:17:51
  their chemistry is so good it seems real.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah, they do have chemistry in real life.
• 1:17:55
  So that's that's one thing. And the look she gives them is
• 1:17:58
  one of pure adoration. The Irish dance party is pure
• 1:18:03
  fire. Basically that whole sequence to
• 1:18:06
  me was a snapshot of their lives.
• 1:18:09
  If she was free, if she was free to make the decisions she
• 1:18:14
  wanted, that was a snapshot of their lives to me.
• 1:18:17
  Just, you know, she's smoking a cig at a party, she's showing
• 1:18:21
  off her ballet moves. They're dancing, they're they're
• 1:18:24
  doing a little dance off. OK, you.
• 1:18:26
  Know that to me is the moment where they're like free, because
• 1:18:31
  even at the end of the dance, before fucking Cal's assistant
• 1:18:34
  shows up, they're doing a little circle dance, right?
• 1:18:38
  They're holding hands, they're running around in a circle and
• 1:18:40
  it slows down and it shows like this, almost like a dreamlike
• 1:18:45
  scenario where they're having a blast.
• 1:18:47
  Yes, but this could really be a little bit of beer goggles.
• 1:18:52
  In her case, she's seeing him when he's on vacation.
• 1:18:56
  He's still on a luxury cruise, too.
• 1:18:59
  Yeah, she's seeing him in this light that lines up with her
• 1:19:02
  life a lot more recently on Instagram, I saw an AI of what
• 1:19:07
  would happen if Jack lived and they got off the boat together.
• 1:19:11
  And they're poor shit, living in a fucking shanty.
• 1:19:15
  They have a bunch of kids. He works in like a steel mill.
• 1:19:18
  He's dirty, She gets fat. They're so poor.
• 1:19:23
  And then Cal comes to visit them and he's like all clean and nice
• 1:19:26
  looking with like a nice young wife, like, yeah, but it kind
• 1:19:29
  of, it kind of is. It's like vacation.
• 1:19:31
  Love money. Money doesn't buy happiness.
• 1:19:33
  It doesn't. It doesn't, it doesn't.
• 1:19:35
  But when she when you're growing up in the lap of luxury.
• 1:19:39
  Yeah. It's really hard.
• 1:19:40
  She wasn't happy, she wasn't, but miserable she.
• 1:19:43
  Wanted to kill herself. She was ready to jump in a
• 1:19:45
  fucking ocean, the Atlantic Ocean.
• 1:19:48
  You know what I mean? Yeah, this guy saw her.
• 1:19:51
  He he treated her like a human, like cow was like you like, what
• 1:19:56
  was he offer? You like lamb, Right.
• 1:19:58
  Right. Sweetpea.
• 1:19:59
  She fucking hated being called Sweet Pea.
• 1:20:01
  Well, she also shook her head. She's like, no, I don't like
• 1:20:02
  lamb. And you just fucking ordered me
• 1:20:04
  lamb. Yeah, exactly how you like it.
• 1:20:06
  Yeah, anyway, I think that was like a snapshot of them, their
• 1:20:12
  life after also the first half of this movie, right up until
• 1:20:17
  when the iceberg actually maybe the sex scene.
• 1:20:21
  The whole movie is colourful, it's bright, the sky is blue
• 1:20:27
  hair, the sunsets, the facial features, everything is warm.
• 1:20:34
  Everything is colourful. The rooms, the inside of the
• 1:20:37
  ship, everything is warm tones and colourful.
• 1:20:43
  The second-half, once the ship hits the iceberg, the colour of
• 1:20:46
  the movie fades away. Everything.
• 1:20:49
  Is blue. And Gray and dark.
• 1:20:52
  And that's why I think it's like 2 different movies and it's such
• 1:20:56
  a flip. It's such a distinct like flip
• 1:21:00
  of a switch. It's crazy.
• 1:21:01
  It's seamless. Like you, you, I know the first
• 1:21:03
  half of the movie we fall in love with the characters.
• 1:21:05
  In the second-half of the movie, we watched them their lives.
• 1:21:07
  Just watch everything. Parish, Yeah, Hot take here.
• 1:21:13
  So Jack's locked downstairs by Mr. Ismay and he.
• 1:21:19
  Not Mysterious Man by Cal. Cal's assistant watching him
• 1:21:23
  with a gun. This jacket sodomized by this
• 1:21:26
  guy. No, I mean, we don't know.
• 1:21:29
  Why we don't know this guy, he doesn't have, you know,
• 1:21:32
  obviously he doesn't have a partner.
• 1:21:35
  I don't know if he's a sicko. He's got a gun.
• 1:21:38
  There's nobody around. I'm like, he's obviously
• 1:21:43
  unhinged because you know he's rolling a bullet off table.
• 1:21:47
  It's not bad enough that he leaves him chained to a fucking
• 1:21:50
  wall to drown. Well, that's what it means.
• 1:21:51
  He sodomized to make him like that was ever gonna see him
• 1:21:54
  again. No, he doesn't.
• 1:21:55
  He doesn't write them. I mean, you don't know.
• 1:21:59
  Was there, I know. OK bro Cal is a psycho bastard
• 1:22:05
  he shoots a Jack and rose like 7 times then look sad and shouts I
• 1:22:12
  hope you have a nice time together.
• 1:22:15
  Like what the fuck is wrong with you?
• 1:22:17
  This guy is fucked up. He's not a he's messed up.
• 1:22:21
  He's a messed up. Person because he lost.
• 1:22:23
  He's not used to not having control over people on losing
• 1:22:26
  something because he learns in that half of the movie that his
• 1:22:30
  money is now useless. You have to rely on your wit and
• 1:22:34
  your survival instinct alone to get out of this.
• 1:22:36
  But all he does get out, yeah. But it's so he, he snatches a
• 1:22:40
  little girl who's crying cause her parents obviously gone are
• 1:22:43
  missing. And you're like, oh, that's a
• 1:22:46
  little bit of a redemption for him because he saves the life.
• 1:22:49
  I'm like, but his intention was to save his own.
• 1:22:52
  And then you're like, no, no, he redeemed himself.
• 1:22:53
  He saved the little girl. And then later we see this
• 1:22:56
  fucking asshole on the same lifeboat hitting people with
• 1:22:59
  oars to get the fuck off the lifeboat.
• 1:23:03
  She's throwing people off the lifeboat.
• 1:23:05
  Well, his lifeboat like almost capsized.
• 1:23:07
  Like we don't even know if that little girl survived.
• 1:23:09
  I'm sure she survived but like he's throwing people off.
• 1:23:12
  The boat was pretty much empty from what I.
• 1:23:15
  Saw it was pretty empty because they couldn't let people near it
• 1:23:18
  cause they were swamped. It does this movie hit different
• 1:23:21
  as a parent ready. We we got to unpack some shit
• 1:23:25
  here because it absolutely does hit different.
• 1:23:28
  As a parent, the first time we both saw this, we were kids.
• 1:23:31
  Yeah. And I have several parts of the
• 1:23:34
  movie that it's hard to fucking watch.
• 1:23:37
  Yeah. Do you wanna?
• 1:23:38
  Do you wanna? Start or do you want?
• 1:23:39
  No, no, go ahead. So like I said earlier, I was
• 1:23:43
  really thinking about the fact that Rose was 17 the whole time
• 1:23:46
  I was watching this movie for the first time and it makes it
• 1:23:49
  hit different. I always thought of her as an
• 1:23:52
  adult during past watchings, but she really is basically a kid
• 1:23:58
  and it explains a lot about her personality.
• 1:24:02
  Like she's a little bit naive, she's a little bit starry eyed
• 1:24:05
  and it could explain also why she's so playful and fun loving.
• 1:24:09
  This spitting scene with Jack is something that a couple of kids
• 1:24:12
  would do. This spinning while they're
• 1:24:14
  dancing is a childish thing to do.
• 1:24:17
  That's true. She giggles while she's naked in
• 1:24:20
  front of him for the drawing, flipping off Cal's henchman in
• 1:24:25
  the elevator. Like it's all very teenage kid
• 1:24:28
  stuff that she's doing. And if you're viewing the the
• 1:24:31
  movie through, watching her as a 17 year old, watching a girl so
• 1:24:36
  young makes me feel protective of her as a mother and so sad
• 1:24:40
  for her that she feels trapped when her life is really just
• 1:24:43
  beginning. Yeah.
• 1:24:45
  So that hits different as a parent for me.
• 1:24:48
  I never thought of that cause I always just pictured it as like
• 1:24:51
  a 1920 year old but 17. Yeah, but we have a daughter now
• 1:24:55
  and like just. No that's fine.
• 1:24:56
  It's just a 17 year old part. Like she's being 17 is really a
• 1:24:59
  game changer. Yeah, it really is for me
• 1:25:01
  because I didn't know she was that young.
• 1:25:03
  In previous watches, I thought she was maybe 19 or 20, but she
• 1:25:05
  was. She was a kid watching the
• 1:25:08
  people say goodbye to their dads and husbands and get on the
• 1:25:11
  lifeboats. Fucked me up.
• 1:25:13
  This one dad says this boat is for the mommies and children.
• 1:25:16
  There's gonna be another boat for the daddies that I'm going
• 1:25:19
  to go on. And he's trying to comfort his
• 1:25:21
  daughters, knowing he's very likely going to die on that
• 1:25:24
  ship. Yeah.
• 1:25:26
  And that's really hard to watch. And I, I said to you, I said I I
• 1:25:29
  would just die with you. I would leave you.
• 1:25:31
  There was a few moments where you're like, I can't watch this
• 1:25:33
  anymore and I'm like, yo, power through bro.
• 1:25:35
  Another scene that as a parent just will absolutely fucking
• 1:25:39
  destroy you is the mother in 3rd class putting her babies to
• 1:25:41
  sleep on a sinking ship and telling them a story knowing she
• 1:25:45
  can't save them. She she tells them a story in
• 1:25:49
  hopes that they'll fall asleep so they can have a more peaceful
• 1:25:52
  death just because like she wants to do one last act as
• 1:25:56
  their mother of comforting her children.
• 1:25:58
  Let's fucking do it. They lived happily together for
• 1:26:02
  300 years in the land of Tear, Nanog, Band of Eternal Youth
• 1:26:09
  and. He's really sad, it's really
• 1:26:11
  fucked up. It's a very sad scene because
• 1:26:13
  she's trying to get them to fall asleep so that the water comes
• 1:26:16
  in. They don't realize, like they
• 1:26:18
  just drown. They'll they'll drown more
• 1:26:20
  quickly. But yo, it was women and
• 1:26:23
  children first. Not not for the third class
• 1:26:26
  people. I know, but.
• 1:26:27
  They didn't let them. They didn't let them out.
• 1:26:29
  They did there was women like I mean they were late to the
• 1:26:32
  thing, but fuck, man, like that. When I see that scene, I'm like,
• 1:26:35
  he did you like I don't know, I would, you know, that's it's
• 1:26:40
  unfair quitter mentality, you know?
• 1:26:42
  Well, babe, she gives up because she's like, are we gonna stand
• 1:26:44
  here and wait to escape? And what, it's ever gonna come,
• 1:26:46
  or can I put my kids down and let them have one last peaceful
• 1:26:49
  moment before they die? Yeah, it's horrible.
• 1:26:51
  Dark Times. And then one thing, I never
• 1:26:54
  noticed this scene before and you pointed it out to me and.
• 1:26:57
  Get in the hallway. No, the mother frozen to death
• 1:27:00
  with her baby in her arms. Oh yeah.
• 1:27:03
  There's a small baby in her arms.
• 1:27:05
  Yeah, I gotta tell you right now.
• 1:27:06
  Viewer discretion is advised if you have a baby or small child.
• 1:27:10
  I got very upset by some of the scenes involving children.
• 1:27:14
  Yeah, this was PG13. Yeah, you almost turned it off
• 1:27:17
  because I was getting so upset. We had trouble finishing this
• 1:27:20
  movie this time because of the amount of death and because of
• 1:27:24
  the amount of children drowning and freezing to death.
• 1:27:28
  You don't think of it, but there's a mother she approached.
• 1:27:30
  I think it's the same mother. She approaches the captain, the
• 1:27:32
  captain, where can I go? And she's holding like a three
• 1:27:35
  month old. Yeah, and he just ignores her.
• 1:27:37
  No, he he's, he's shell shocked. He walks away cause he can't
• 1:27:39
  help her. But it's it's like as as a
• 1:27:42
  parent, all you can think of is how helpless and you'd feel and
• 1:27:46
  how you'd want to do anything to save your children.
• 1:27:48
  And it literally shows cases where people.
• 1:27:50
  When? When Rose?
• 1:27:51
  So I wrote the little sisters crying for their dad when Rose
• 1:27:56
  and Jack like she saves him from the she breaks the handcuffs and
• 1:27:59
  then they're walking down this hall and it's flooding.
• 1:28:03
  I think it's D deck and there's this little boy and he's just
• 1:28:06
  crying in the hallway by himself.
• 1:28:08
  And Jack, like we can't leave. Jack grabs him and says we can't
• 1:28:11
  leave him. So he picks him up.
• 1:28:12
  He's running, he's going in the right direction.
• 1:28:15
  And the dad of the boy runs into them, doesn't speak English,
• 1:28:19
  takes the son and runs in the wrong direction and the door
• 1:28:24
  blows open. And then they just drown.
• 1:28:27
  Like that scene. I've seen it a dozen times.
• 1:28:30
  It never registered. But that little kid is gone, and
• 1:28:36
  so is the dad. Yeah.
• 1:28:37
  It's really fucking sad. And, you know, I the amount of
• 1:28:45
  kids that get like basically the killed in this movie is, is
• 1:28:50
  insane. I mean, there's people that die
• 1:28:52
  obviously, but the like adults, but the kids, it's really,
• 1:28:55
  really sad. It's really sad.
• 1:28:57
  Yeah, that that mother with the with the frozen baby in her
• 1:29:00
  arms. Even mentioned the Middle
• 1:29:01
  Eastern family, yeah, because they couldn't read the signs
• 1:29:03
  right. So he's gotta he's got a.
• 1:29:05
  Book really sad. That's addiction.
• 1:29:06
  The dad's trying to read the translation and the dictionary,
• 1:29:10
  and it's a mom with, I think, two kids and the husband, and
• 1:29:13
  nobody's helping them because nobody speaks their language.
• 1:29:16
  Nobody can help them. It's really.
• 1:29:17
  Sad, really, really sad. So, But there was 2423 hundred
• 1:29:23
  people on that ship and 1500 people. 1500 people died, only
• 1:29:28
  70, only 700. Service fucking crazy.
• 1:29:32
  Yeah, the the drownings, the the the kids.
• 1:29:35
  It's just, it's really sad this movie hits you in the feels like
• 1:29:41
  like as a parent, it just demolishes you.
• 1:29:44
  Like you're watching it and all you can think is what would you
• 1:29:47
  do? And that's one question that I'm
• 1:29:51
  going to ask you now. If you were on this ship with
• 1:29:55
  your family and the ships going down, what would you do?
• 1:30:00
  Well, I would. What do you think you would do?
• 1:30:02
  Obviously get the four of us to a lifeboat as quickly as
• 1:30:06
  possible and hope that it's one of the ones that was letting on
• 1:30:08
  men because some of them were letting on men.
• 1:30:10
  So hopefully all four of us were getting a life and be able to
• 1:30:12
  escape. Obviously hindsight is 2020, so
• 1:30:15
  if I was in this situation I would do everything in my power
• 1:30:20
  to get you 3 onto a life boat and then given the
• 1:30:26
  circumstances, I would try to get on one myself.
• 1:30:30
  But if there's a kid that's crying somewhere, I'm going to
• 1:30:36
  try to help them like Cal did. But I'm not going to just, you
• 1:30:41
  know, I'm gonna try to help the kid because I want to help the
• 1:30:43
  kid. But if you can get my ass saved
• 1:30:47
  and to my family again, I'm going to do it.
• 1:30:49
  And if this kid is an orphan and the parents are gone, that kid's
• 1:30:53
  going to be under our wing. Yeah, we'll take the.
• 1:30:56
  Kids, you know what I mean? That's hindsight, 2020,
• 1:30:58
  obviously. But yeah, in the chaos of that
• 1:31:00
  movie, like who the. Fuck.
• 1:31:01
  Well at the beginning people were being leisurely about it.
• 1:31:03
  Like if we had been smart about it and got into the lifeboats as
• 1:31:06
  quickly as possible and they were saying some of them were
• 1:31:09
  letting on men, maybe all four of us could have just gotten a
• 1:31:11
  life boat. Yeah, that movie, it's like it
• 1:31:14
  hits you in so many different levels emotionally, you know, it
• 1:31:19
  gets you in the fields. There's emotional damage.
• 1:31:23
  There's all kinds of like, there's some anger, there's some
• 1:31:25
  disappointment. Like holy shit, James Cameron,
• 1:31:28
  what are you doing to? Us you'll hit the full range of
• 1:31:30
  emotions. There's not a single emotion you
• 1:31:31
  don't feel throughout the movie. Exactly.
• 1:31:34
  OK, for the rating of the movie, how many lifeboats out of 10 are
• 1:31:39
  you gonna rate this movie? 10 lifeboats out of 10. 10
• 1:31:42
  lifeboats out of 10. OK, I'm going to rate this movie
• 1:31:47
  10 lifeboats out of 10 as well because it is a fucking banger.
• 1:31:52
  And everybody don't think that we do these ratings lightly
• 1:31:55
  because this is the second movie that we've given 10 out of 10.
• 1:31:58
  We just have only done movies that absolutely slap.
• 1:32:02
  Yeah, there will be movies that coming that will not get as high
• 1:32:06
  of a rating. We are critical of the work that
• 1:32:09
  we watch. Yeah, and we like to watch
• 1:32:12
  movies that we like to. So.
• 1:32:14
  OK, so that was the Titanic pod with a Titanic runtime.
• 1:32:19
  We're well over an hour and a half.
• 1:32:21
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• 1:32:25
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• 1:32:29
  podcast. And if you have not seen
• 1:32:31
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• 1:32:37
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• 1:32:41
  little old lady throwing the friggin diamond in the ocean.
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• 1:33:01
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• 1:33:07
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