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- 0:00Welcome, everyone, to Reformed Thinking.
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- 0:20So today we're jumping into something really significant.
- 0:23It comes from one of America's, well, most influential Reformed
- 0:26theologians, Jonathan Edwards. We're going to unpack his
- 0:29thinking on on a concept that it might sound a bit contradictory
- 0:33initially, but it's actually super central to understanding
- 0:36God's character. We're talking about the
- 0:37distinction between God's two wills, his revealed will and his
- 0:42secret will. Now, this isn't just our mission
- 0:44today really, is to understand how God can genuinely desire
- 0:49something, let's say the salvation of everyone who hears
- 0:51the gospel, but at the same time have this sovereign overarching
- 0:56plan that includes specific outcomes, outcomes that might
- 0:59even include some people not accepting that gospel.
- 1:02It's a core issue in understanding God's character,
- 1:05especially from a Reformed viewpoint, and it addresses that
- 1:08tension, you know, the one many Christians feel, between God's
- 1:11call to all people and his sovereign choice.
- 1:14We're mainly pulling from Edwards's big work remarks on
- 1:16Important Theological controversies and some other
- 1:18related writings that help clarify his thought.
- 1:21Why should this matter to you? Well, because wrestling with
- 1:23these ideas help solidify foundational Christian beliefs,
- 1:27beliefs about who God is, his sovereignty over everything, and
- 1:30maybe most practically, how evangelism, sharing the good
- 1:32news, fits into his plan. It's not at odds with it.
- 1:34It can bring clarity, which Scripture might seem, well,
- 1:37tense. And ultimately, it just deepens
- 1:39your appreciation for how immense and frankly amazing God
- 1:42is. This isn't just head stuff.
- 1:43It can genuinely change how you see God working in the world.
- 1:46OK, let's dig into this. Edwards starts by laying down a
- 1:49foundation right about God's nature itself.
- 1:52What is it about God's inherent disposition, his basic leaning,
- 1:55that sets the stage for talking about these two wills?
- 1:58Yeah, that's exactly where he starts.
- 1:59And what's really illuminating is how Edwards grounds
- 2:02everything in God's inherent nature, his disposition.
- 2:06The sources are clear on this. God truly loves virtue, holiness
- 2:11and the happiness of his creatures.
- 2:13But Edwards adds this qualifier when considered absolutely and
- 2:17simply OK. Absolutely and simply.
- 2:19What does that mean exactly? It means looking at these
- 2:22things, holiness, creaturely, happiness in themselves without
- 2:25any conditions attached, without considering their relation to
- 2:28other things in the grand scheme.
- 2:29It's about the pure essence of His affection.
- 2:32It signifies that holiness, pure goodness, and the genuine
- 2:35happiness of His creatures aren't just things God likes.
- 2:38They're inherently agreeable to the inclination of His divine
- 2:41nature. It's baked into who He is.
- 2:42So not just a preference, but part of his being.
- 2:45Exactly. It's not a choice he makes based
- 2:47on circumstances, it's an intrinsic, non negotiable part
- 2:51of him. Think about it.
- 2:52There's this pure, unconditioned love for holiness, considered
- 2:56absolutely, Edward says. This is basically synonymous
- 2:59with God's natural inclination. And these things, holiness,
- 3:03creaturally happiness, they're infinitely more agreeable to
- 3:06God's nature than they could ever be to ours.
- 3:09You know, we might find certain things agreeable, but it's
- 3:11finite, conditional for God. This love is boundless, perfect.
- 3:15It's an originating force. It's a core attribute to finding
- 3:18him and shaping how he interacts with creation.
- 3:21It's not like a fleeting feeling.
- 3:23It's stable, eternal. That's a really strong starting
- 3:26point. If God loves these things so
- 3:28absolutely so purely, well, gives us a solid basis for his
- 3:31disposition, doesn't it? It's not just that he puts up
- 3:34with goodness or allows happiness.
- 3:35He's fundamentally leaning towards them.
- 3:37It sounds like a core attribute that just flows out.
- 3:39It absolutely does. This inherent love for holiness
- 3:42and creaturely happiness is, you could say, a huge part of God's
- 3:45disposition. And this is what he then
- 3:47expresses quite genuinely through his sincere calls and
- 3:50invitations to sinners. It's his very nature coming
- 3:53through this. Love isn't just an idea, it's an
- 3:56active force behind his interactions with us, especially
- 3:59in the gospel call. So when God invites us, it's not
- 4:02cold or detached. Not at all.
- 4:04It flows from this deep internal spring of affection for what's
- 4:08good and a desire for his creatures to flourish.
- 4:11And this is critical because it pushes back against any idea
- 4:14that God's invitations might be, I don't know, insincere or just
- 4:18a formality. They are an overflow of his
- 4:20perfect character. OK, so that's his natural
- 4:23internal disposition. How does he actually express
- 4:25that to us? What do we mean when we talk
- 4:26about God's revealed will? Sometimes it's called his will
- 4:30of command, right? Exactly.
- 4:31God primarily expresses these desires through what Edwards
- 4:35calls His revealed will. This is basically what you find
- 4:38in His commands, His laws, His public statements and scripture.
- 4:41It's His inherent disposition and goodness laid bare for us so
- 4:45we can understand it and respond.
- 4:48When God commands holiness, for instance, it's not random.
- 4:51It flows from His nature that loves holiness.
- 4:53It tells us what pleases him. Yes, what's pleasing to him?
- 4:56What lines up with his character?
- 4:58This is the will we're meant to obey.
- 5:00It directs our lives, informs our sense of right and wrong.
- 5:03And this is precisely why we see these sincere calls and
- 5:06invitations to sinners throughout the Bible.
- 5:09God expresses His goodness and kindness to those who hear the
- 5:12gospel through these invitations, and they are
- 5:14sincere. It's not just a tactic.
- 5:16Edward sees it as a natural and proper way for God to express
- 5:19his disposition. Even when he accommodates
- 5:21himself, sort of speaks our language, uses terms, we get to
- 5:25convey his genuine inclination. Like a parent inviting a child
- 5:28to something good. Yeah, that's a good analogy.
- 5:30Even if the parent kind of knows, the child won't say no.
- 5:33The invitation itself is real. It reflects the parents heart.
- 5:36These invitations in Scripture aren't hypothetical.
- 5:39They're earnest calls demanding a real response.
- 5:42So it's about what's agreeable to his nature.
- 5:45Does that same disposition work in reverse for things he finds
- 5:48disagreeable? Does his nature recoil from
- 5:51stuff? Oh, absolutely.
- 5:53His disposition also includes an intense disagreeableness towards
- 5:56wickedness in the misery of the creature.
- 5:58Again, considered absolutely and simply, this means sin and
- 6:02suffering just in themselves are utterly repugnant to God's holy
- 6:05being. And this inherent aversion to
- 6:07evil is actually the basis for the goodness we see in pious
- 6:10people who lament sin and suffering, you know, when they
- 6:14grieve over past wickedness or earnestly wish for future
- 6:16holiness and happiness for themselves and others.
- 6:18So our righteous grief reflects something in God.
- 6:20A faint echo? Yes, Our revulsion to sin when
- 6:24it's righteous mirrors a disposition that is infinitely
- 6:28present to God. When we grieve evil, we're
- 6:31reflecting something true about Him.
- 6:34Edwards really emphasizes this when he talks about God's
- 6:36lamentings in Scripture. Like when Jesus walked over
- 6:39Jerusalem. He says it shows that for God to
- 6:42have these desires, these lamentations, nothing is lacking
- 6:45in Him except imperfection, and conversely, nothing prevents Him
- 6:49from having them except His infinite perfection.
- 6:51That's a key point. His desires and grief aren't
- 6:54because he's missing something. Right, they don't imply a
- 6:57frustrated will like ours sometimes is they flow from His
- 7:00complete, self-sufficient, infinitely perfect nature.
- 7:04His perfect holiness means he must recoil from sin and
- 7:06genuinely desire its absence and the happiness of His creatures.
- 7:09That's vital. It completely reorients how we
- 7:12think about God desiring something.
- 7:13It's not from lack, but from fullness.
- 7:15His desires aren't like ours in their source at all.
- 7:18Precisely. And this is where Edwards helps
- 7:20us hold these seemingly opposite ideas together.
- 7:23God accommodates himself to our nature, our way of speaking,
- 7:27when he expresses these desires, not because he's deficient, but
- 7:30because we are finite. And the most powerful example of
- 7:32this is Jesus Christ. When God came down from his
- 7:35infinite perfection, it was made man and the person of Jesus
- 7:38Christ. He genuinely desire the
- 7:40conversion and salvation of people who would ultimately
- 7:43reject him. Edwards uses the term reprobates
- 7:45those who in God's sovereign plan, wouldn't ultimately accept
- 7:49the gospel. And Jesus lamented their
- 7:51stubbornness, their misery. We see it when he wept over
- 7:53Jerusalem. So in Christ we see a human
- 7:56expression of God's perfect disposition.
- 7:58Exactly. His sorrow wasn't because his
- 8:00plan was failing, but because of his perfect diversion to sin and
- 8:03suffering. Jesus's tears were real.
- 8:07They signify God's heart towards human suffering and rebellion.
- 8:10And similarly, Edward says, when God comes down from his infinite
- 8:14perfection, not by becoming human, but just in the way he
- 8:17reveals himself in Scripture, it's equally natural and fitting
- 8:21for him to express himself as though he desired the conversion
- 8:24of those who would remain hard hearted and lamented their
- 8:27state. So it's not an act or a white
- 8:30lie. No, it's a suitable way for the
- 8:32perfect God to communicate His inherent nature to us in ways we
- 8:35can receive. His commands and invitations in
- 8:38scripture genuinely reflect who He is, even if they're put in
- 8:41terms we can grasp. The sources stated clearly all
- 8:45in God that is good and perfect and excellent in our desires and
- 8:48wishes for the conversion and salvation of wicked men, is
- 8:51present in Him. That's central to Edwards.
- 8:53It is his perfect knowledge, his wisdom, his power.
- 8:57None of that stops him from expressing this disposition of
- 9:00his nature through calls and invitations.
- 9:03So God's expressions of desire for the holiness and happiness
- 9:06of even those who reject him contain everything good about
- 9:09such desires, except anything that would imply an
- 9:11imperfection, A weakness, A lacking God.
- 9:14It's a perfect divine desire, not a needy human one.
- 9:17OK, so we've got God's inherent disposition, loving holiness and
- 9:21happiness, and his revealed will commands invitations expressing
- 9:25that. But then there's this other
- 9:27aspect, His secret will, or as Edwards puts it, his will of
- 9:31decree. How does that fit in?
- 9:32How is it different? Right, the secret will.
- 9:34This refers to God's inclination towards something not absolutely
- 9:37and simply, not just looking at the thing itself, but looking at
- 9:40it with the respect to the universality of things, had it
- 9:42been our or shall be. So the bigger picture, the whole
- 9:45cosmic plan. Exactly.
- 9:48Think of it as his grand overarching plan for Everything,
- 9:52Everywhere, all time, a cosmic blueprint.
- 9:55This secret will covers his absolute decrees about the
- 9:58future actions of everyone, including, yes, the unbelief of
- 10:02sinners and the rejection of the gospel.
- 10:05It's tied up with his absolute foreknowledge, His perfect
- 10:07knowledge of the future, and his wise determination and ordering
- 10:11of everything that happens. This is God's comprehensive,
- 10:14eternal plan for the whole cosmos, perfectly orchestrated
- 10:17according to His wisdom. OK, and this immediately brings
- 10:20up that huge question, doesn't it?
- 10:21The tension theologians have wrestled with forever, and
- 10:24Edwards hits it head on. How can God hate sin, genuinely
- 10:27desire its absence, desire people's happiness?
- 10:30That's his revealed will, but then permits sin or even decree
- 10:34its permission with within this secret will.
- 10:36It feels like a contradiction. That's precisely the perceived
- 10:38paradox. Edwards acknowledges that he
- 10:40says while God may hate of things as it is, simply like sin
- 10:43or a creature's misery because they're contrary to His nature,
- 10:46His will of decree, His secret will, may incline to permit it
- 10:49or even ordain that it happens, but always for a greater
- 10:52ultimate purpose. A higher goal.
- 10:54Yes, often for the greater promotion of holiness in this
- 10:57universality, or for the greater promotion of happiness in this
- 11:01universality, the ultimate aim might be promoting of the
- 11:04harmony that there is in the universality and making it shine
- 11:08the brighter. So something that looks bad or
- 11:10out of place on its own might actually contribute to a
- 11:13grander, more radiant harmony and display of God's glory when
- 11:17you see the whole picture. Like a single dark thread,
- 11:20making the whole pattern richer. Something like that.
- 11:23And Edwards insists the sources say this distinction between the
- 11:26two wills must needs be He argues that no hypothesis
- 11:30whatsoever will relieve a man, but that he must own these two
- 11:33wills of God. So you can't get around it
- 11:36theologically. He thinks it's necessary.
- 11:38Without it, you can't make sense of how God's holy character and
- 11:41his absolute sovereignty fit together with the reality of the
- 11:44world he created and governs. It's not optional.
- 11:46For Edwards, it's essential. To deny it leads to even bigger
- 11:50problems, he thinks. It forces us to admit God's
- 11:53perspective is just vastly bigger than ours, covering
- 11:56Everything, Everywhere, forever. That definitely sets the stage.
- 12:00So Edwards takes this tension seriously.
- 12:02Now we get to the core challenge.
- 12:04How does he, working within this Reform framework, actually
- 12:08reconcile this this apparent clash between God's sovereign
- 12:11decrees, which includes some not being saved, and his sincere
- 12:16offers of salvation to everyone who hears?
- 12:18What's the solution? Well, his solution really hinges
- 12:21on being very precise about the word will.
- 12:23He clarifies that when we talk about God's revealed will and
- 12:27His secret will, we're using the word will in two different
- 12:30senses. So not 2 conflicting wills, but
- 12:32two meanings of will. Exactly.
- 12:34His will of decree is not His will in the same sense as His
- 12:38will of command. They are distinct senses of will
- 12:40within the one unified God. It's not like God is torn or has
- 12:44internal conflict. It's more like looking at God's
- 12:46intentions from different angles within his single perfect being.
- 12:491 angle is his inclination based on his own nature and what he
- 12:52commands. The other is his inclination
- 12:54regarding his ultimate universal plan.
- 12:56OK, so how does that resolve this sincerity issue?
- 12:59Well, it means the existence of God's secret decrees like
- 13:02knowing and planning. That some sinners will remain in
- 13:05unbelief doesn't contradict the sincerity of His calls and
- 13:08invitations to them. The sincerity doesn't come from
- 13:11God hoping things turn out differently than He decreed or
- 13:14from Him not knowing the outcome.
- 13:16Where does it come from them? It stems directly from His
- 13:19inherent nature, which we talked about first, His absolute love
- 13:22for holiness and the happiness of His creatures, and his
- 13:24perfect hatred of sin. God genuinely desires the good
- 13:28He calls people too, because it is good, Period.
- 13:31It's agreeable to His nature. That makes the call sincere.
- 13:35Edwards really hammers this all in.
- 13:37God that is good and perfect and excellent in our desires and
- 13:40wishes for the conversion and salvation of wicked men is truly
- 13:43present in Him. That's foundational.
- 13:45So our best desires for others reflect something perfect in
- 13:48God. A dim reflection, yes.
- 13:50His genuine, absolute love for holiness, The agreeableness of
- 13:54it to his nature. When we as believers genuinely
- 13:57desire someone's conversion and lament their hardness, that good
- 14:00desire in US mirrors an infinitely more perfect
- 14:03disposition in God Himself. And importantly, this inherent
- 14:07disposition in God is perfectly consistent with everything else
- 14:10we know about Him, His infinite knowledge, wisdom, power,
- 14:14self-sufficiency, happiness, immutability.
- 14:16So his knowing the future doesn't cancel out his desire in
- 14:20the present. Right.
- 14:22His absolute foreknowledge or His wise ordering of the future
- 14:25doesn't hinder him from expressing this disposition of
- 14:28his nature through genuine calls and invitations.
- 14:30Patience. God's knowledge of what will
- 14:32happen, doesn't diminish his actual desire for a different,
- 14:35more agreeable outcome for the individual considered just in
- 14:38themselves. His perfect knowledge means he
- 14:40doesn't get disappointed like we do.
- 14:42His desires flow from His Holiness, not from frustrated
- 14:45hopes. OK, I think I'm following, but
- 14:46Edwards has that really striking quote, doesn't he, about
- 14:48perfection? Yes, it really crystallizes it.
- 14:50He says nothing is wanting in God in order to his having such
- 14:54desires and such lamentings, but imperfection, and nothing is in
- 14:58the way of His having them, but infinite perfection.
- 15:00Wow, so his perfection is what allows these things to coexist,
- 15:05not what prevents them. Exactly.
- 15:07It's his perfection that allows him to genuinely desire good and
- 15:10lament evil without it implying any lack or incompleteness in
- 15:14him like our desires often do. His desires aren't born of need,
- 15:18they flow from his inherent perfect nature.
- 15:21It's his infinite knowledge and self-sufficiency that let him
- 15:23express his perfect disposition without any human like sorrow of
- 15:27disappointment or unfulfilled longing.
- 15:29It actually affirms his total self-sufficiency and
- 15:32blessedness, even while he genuinely expresses aversion to
- 15:35sin and desire for human flourishing.
- 15:37That's a really helpful way to put it.
- 15:39God's perfection isn't a barrier, it's the source.
- 15:42Let's explore that a bit more, this idea of God's perfection
- 15:44enabling him to communicate these perfect desires to us.
- 15:47How does his perfection allow these genuine expressions?
- 15:50Yeah, His perfection is key to how these desires and
- 15:53lamentations work and how they're expressed.
- 15:55Because he has infinite knowledge, wisdom, power,
- 15:59etcetera. He can't have desires that imply
- 16:01a lack or a potential for being unfulfilled.
- 16:04That's how our desires work, right?
- 16:06We want what we don't have. Exactly.
- 16:08We desire things often because we feel incomplete.
- 16:11We wish for something missing. God's desires are fundamentally
- 16:14different. They're expressions of His
- 16:16absolute fullness. He doesn't need anything.
- 16:19But, and this is the crucial link, all that is good, perfect,
- 16:22and excellent in our desires and wishes for the conversion and
- 16:25salvation of others is present in God, but perfectly
- 16:28infinitely. For instance, his infinite love
- 16:31for holiness absolutely considered his hatred of
- 16:34wickedness and misery. That's the ultimate source of
- 16:36the good we see in believers who lament these things.
- 16:38So our best longing is originate in Him.
- 16:40Yes, our longing for good, our aversion to evil, our prayers
- 16:45for the lost. They start in his perfect
- 16:47nature. He's the perfect original of
- 16:49these desires. So Edwards argues, God's
- 16:52perfection doesn't stop him from expressing these perfect
- 16:55dispositions. Instead, he expresses them by
- 16:58accommodating himself to our human nature and way of
- 17:00understanding. He meets us where we are.
- 17:02Right. It's not a sign of weakness in
- 17:04Him, but a loving condescension, a way for God to relate to us in
- 17:09terms we can grasp, even though He's ultimately beyond us.
- 17:12It's an act of grace that He speaks our language.
- 17:14That makes sense. Can you give us those
- 17:16illustrations again? How does Edwards show God doing
- 17:19this, communicating his perfect disposition in ways we get?
- 17:22Sure, Edwards points to two main ways God accommodates His
- 17:25expression to us both flowing from His perfection.
- 17:28First, in the manner of existence, the Incarnation.
- 17:30This is the big one. When God came down from His
- 17:33infinite perfection and was made man in the person of Jesus
- 17:36Christ, He genuinely desired the conversion and salvation of
- 17:39people He knew would reject Him. He truly lamented their
- 17:42stubbornness and misery. Think of Jesus weeping over
- 17:45Jerusalem. That wasn't just for show.
- 17:47Not at all. It was a physical manifestation
- 17:49of God's true disposition, expressed through real human
- 17:53emotions and faculties. Jesus's tears were real, showing
- 17:56God's heart about human suffering and rebellion even
- 17:59while His sovereign plan unfolded.
- 18:01The divine disposition made tangible.
- 18:04Second, in the manner of manifestation through scriptural
- 18:06expression. This is God communicating
- 18:08through the Bible. When God comes down from his
- 18:11infinite perfection and the manner of manifestation, he
- 18:14accommodates himself to human language and ways of thinking
- 18:17within Scripture. So it's perfectly natural and
- 18:19right that he should express himself through commands,
- 18:21invitations, even lamentations, as if he desire the conversion
- 18:24of those who stay hardened and grieve their state.
- 18:27So the language in the Bible like God calling out to Israel.
- 18:30It's not pretend. It genuinely reflects God's
- 18:33perfect nature, His love for holiness and happiness, His
- 18:35hatred of sin, all expressed in terms we humans can understand
- 18:38and respond to. His commands and invitations are
- 18:41sincere because they flow from who He is, His inherent perfect
- 18:44disposition. So.
- 18:45Putting it together, God's invitations are truly sincere.
- 18:47They reflect his perfect nature. And this happens even while his
- 18:51sovereign plan, his secret will, unfolds for the whole universe.
- 18:55It's quite a way to hold together what look like opposing
- 18:57truths. It tells us God isn't
- 18:59contradictory, just infinitely coherent in a way that stretches
- 19:03our minds. So today we've really dug into
- 19:05Jonathan Edwards key distinctions, God's revealed
- 19:08will and his secret will. We've explored how these two
- 19:11sides of God's intention aren't fighting each other, but are
- 19:13different ways of understanding His single perfect will.
- 19:17And this allows for His genuine calls to everyone, right
- 19:19alongside His sovereign decrees about how everything ultimately
- 19:22works out. Yeah, just to sum it up, God's
- 19:24sincere offers in the gospel, they genuinely reflect His
- 19:28natural leaning towards holiness and happiness.
- 19:30That's part of His perfect essence, His decrees, the secret
- 19:34will that reflects his ultimate plan for universal harmony and
- 19:37His own glory in the grand scheme of things.
- 19:40Both are expressions of his perfect nature, just viewed from
- 19:42different angles. The secret will ensues, the
- 19:44greatest possible good for the universe overall.
- 19:47The revealed Will shows us his inherent goodness, His love for
- 19:50what's right. And importantly, it's what we're
- 19:52called to obey. So.
- 19:53Thinking about all this, what does it mean for you personally
- 19:56as you reflect on God's character?
- 19:58Think about it. What does it mean that God's
- 20:00absolute perfection is the very thing that lets him genuinely
- 20:03desire good for all and lament its rejection, even while He
- 20:06masterminds a universal plan that includes allowing sin for a
- 20:09greater final harmony? How does that shape your view of
- 20:12His? Love His?
- 20:13Justice, maybe even how you approach sharing your faith or
- 20:16praying. Does it maybe free you up to
- 20:18proclaim the gospel with more confidence in God's true heart,
- 20:21knowing his sovereignty isn't some kind of barrier, but
- 20:23actually the ultimate assurance? Lots to think about there.
- 20:27Well, thank you for joining us for this deep dive on Reformed
- 20:29thinking. Until next time.