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OJ’s Book, Housewives Fired, Divorces, Vanderpump, The Valley and Me! · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
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  Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch.
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  Speaker 2: What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial. Where? Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean... Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 2: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else. Heather MacDonald
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  Speaker 1: has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road,
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  Speaker 1: when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show
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  Speaker 1: addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. It's all me, only me,
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  Speaker 1: giving you so much Juicy Scoop. I hope I can
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  Speaker 1: get to it all. So much has been going on.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Of course, first, I need to
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  Speaker 1: remind you about going to heathermcdolland.net for my tickets to
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  Speaker 1: all my new live shows. It's a Juicy Scoop, Heather
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  Speaker 1: McDolland experience. It's standup plus your favorite parts of the
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  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoop podcast. You can bring your friends. You can
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  Speaker 1: bring people that don't know anything about pop culture or me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, they will not be disappointed. You
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  Speaker 1: can also go alone and make a friend because we're
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  Speaker 1: all juicy scoopers and we're all cool. The next show
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  Speaker 1: up is Scottsdale May 3rd with Brandi and Julie. All
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  Speaker 1: the dates are there. Denver, Pechanga with Chris Frangiola in June,
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  Speaker 1: San Diego at Humphreys by the Bay. It's all there, heathermcdonald.net. Okay. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have heard the news that the Golden
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  Speaker 1: Globes Bachelor and his wife of three months that he
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  Speaker 1: chose on the show are getting a divorce. This was
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  Speaker 1: such an interesting thing. People didn't think they should get
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  Speaker 1: married anyway. People thought that Jerry, which was pronounced Gary. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was Gary, but it was pronounced like Gary. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what his deal was. To give you a
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  Speaker 1: little bit background, he was married for 40 something years.
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  Speaker 1: His wife died suddenly of an infection. And he just
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  Speaker 1: moved into his dream house, like in a town of
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  Speaker 1: 500 by the lake. That's where he was going to
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  Speaker 1: go with his wife. But when they chose him for
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, there's a lot that they presented that they
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  Speaker 1: found out later were not true. It was giving me
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  Speaker 1: do you want to marry a millionaire kind of vibes
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  Speaker 1: when they the first of these type of dating shows.
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  Speaker 1: They came out many years ago, probably like 15, 17
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  Speaker 1: years ago, where they found this guy and they said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's a real estate person. He's worth a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's worth a million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: but it was like he owned one house for like $ 250, 000
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  Speaker 1: in San Diego. He was on public access doing goofy
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  Speaker 1: stand-up kind of material stuff. Anyway, these people were blindfolded.
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  Speaker 1: One girl married him. She went on to be kind
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  Speaker 1: of famous. She was like a nurse in Thousand Oaks.
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  Speaker 1: I think she went on Playboy. That's when everyone did
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  Speaker 1: Playboy and we'd get like a few hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: It was a disaster. They found out he had done
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  Speaker 1: weird things. They didn't do enough background check. There were
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  Speaker 1: people that had former girlfriends that had some pretty alarming claims.
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  Speaker 1: That's an old show. Now we have The Bachelor. We
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  Speaker 1: have The Golden Bachelor and he is just as nice
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  Speaker 1: as can be. Every girl he meets, he's like, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: you're just so special oh, that's so special. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: kissed a woman besides my wife, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 1: been six years since she's passed. And right around the
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  Speaker 1: time that they're about to get married or the end,
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  Speaker 1: news comes out that he had a girlfriend for many,
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  Speaker 1: for about a year and a half in between the
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  Speaker 1: wife passing and him going on The Golden Bachelor. And
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  Speaker 1: this woman comes out and she's like, look, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to tell my story. The Hollywood Reporter, I think,
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  Speaker 1: did the story on it. They went and spoke to
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  Speaker 1: people that she told what was going on at the time,
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  Speaker 1: which is that's how they always like verify these stories
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  Speaker 1: that involve dating or sexual relationships. They're like, did you
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  Speaker 1: come home from the horrible experience and tell your roommate
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  Speaker 1: five years ago? We're going to interview the roommate and
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  Speaker 1: the roommate remembers it. Okay. That's why they interview people
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  Speaker 1: like that to be like, is this woman lying or what?
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  Speaker 1: They also said on The Golden Bachelor that he was
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  Speaker 1: a retired restaurateur. Well, his only job with restaurants was
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  Speaker 1: that he worked at some Mr. Quick hamburger joint, which
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  Speaker 1: is great. He worked since he was high school and
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  Speaker 1: he owned one and it was a franchise, but he
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  Speaker 1: sold it in 1985. After he retired from various like
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  Speaker 1: management type of jobs, then he went on to work
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  Speaker 1: like as a janitor at a mental hospital. He met
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  Speaker 1: someone there, he met people there, but he met this
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  Speaker 1: one woman there and he's like, hey, would you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: help me with something at my house. They start a romance.
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  Speaker 1: They start a romance. It goes on for a year
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  Speaker 1: and a half in which he begs her to leave
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  Speaker 1: her job and move to this lake house, which there
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  Speaker 1: really isn't anything else around. But he's like, but you
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  Speaker 1: still have to pay me a thousand in rent, even
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  Speaker 1: though we're living together and you're my girlfriend. So she's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I better keep a job. So she's like commuting an
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  Speaker 1: hour every day to keep a job. She whittles it
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  Speaker 1: down to 850. He also says to this woman, when
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  Speaker 1: we go out to dinner, it's going to be split skis, 50-50.
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  Speaker 1: But you'll give me the money like prior to it
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  Speaker 1: or afterwards so that I always look cool when I
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  Speaker 1: pay the bill. This is a story she told her friends.
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  Speaker 1: The friends all said this happened a year and a
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  Speaker 1: half ago. So he goes on the show and he
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  Speaker 1: really perks up when the woman that he's going to marry, Teresa,
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  Speaker 1: reveals that she is, you know, into stocks and she
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  Speaker 1: has five licenses to sell stocks and she has properties.
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  Speaker 1: And people notice that he really seemed to perk up,
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  Speaker 1: even though all three women, like a lot of bachelors,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, you're the one, I love you, does a
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  Speaker 1: fantasy suite, the whole thing. So he chooses her. They
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  Speaker 1: have their televised wedding. Some of these other women that
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  Speaker 1: were on the show are really loving the limelight and
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  Speaker 1: who can blame them. One is a Kris Jenner lookalike.
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  Speaker 1: The other one is a Caitlyn Jenner lookalike. And the
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  Speaker 1: two of them were doing like kind of got some
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  Speaker 1: Instagram following and having some fun. And so everyone's sort
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  Speaker 1: of enjoying it. But now it's been three months and
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  Speaker 1: they're getting divorced. And people say that's going to cost
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  Speaker 1: them a lot of money because it wasn't long enough
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  Speaker 1: to get the endorsements. They probably have to return the
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  Speaker 1: Neil Lane ring. But basically they said they couldn't decide
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  Speaker 1: on a place to live together and leave their families. Also,
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  Speaker 1: Teresa didn't want to stop working and she would have
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  Speaker 1: had to stop working if she was just going to
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  Speaker 1: live at this lake house. And they are holding hands
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  Speaker 1: and they did an interview and they were asked, what
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  Speaker 1: about all this, these previous stories of him kind of
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  Speaker 1: being like a dick boyfriend to this, to this girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: that we never knew he even had between the wife
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  Speaker 1: and going on the golden bachelor. And she's like, he's
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  Speaker 1: told me all that. And we've talked through it and
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  Speaker 1: we just, it's so special. Oh, it's so special. How
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  Speaker 1: many people have come to us and we've given them
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  Speaker 1: hope on love and we don't want them to lose hope.
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  Speaker 1: We don't. Well, you should. It was 50 women trying
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  Speaker 1: to choose one. One got them and it didn't fucking
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  Speaker 1: work out. There isn't a lot of hope, I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a TV show and whatever. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: not ever really going to hear from them again. This
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  Speaker 1: is not somebody that I think we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: doing a bunch of endorsements like the younger Bachelor people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see Depends in their future or anything. I
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  Speaker 1: think we're just going to go away because it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of embarrassing because we gave them so much more respect
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  Speaker 1: than we did the young kids. Like all the younger
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  Speaker 1: people watching the show was like, I love the Golden Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: They really talk and they really care. And he's not
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  Speaker 1: out to be a star. And then they saw that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he had a spray tan and he lied
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  Speaker 1: about a girlfriend. And we're just like, ugh. And he
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  Speaker 1: was cheap. And all the poor, when the girl, when
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  Speaker 1: he told the girl that she had to move out,
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  Speaker 1: that they were broken up, she had to move out.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, you have to move out now. And she's
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  Speaker 1: like so flustered. She like falls down the stairs. Not
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  Speaker 1: that that's funny, but she hurts her ankles. Hurt her ankle.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like trying to get... And he wouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: drive her to the hotel. He's like, here, let me
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  Speaker 1: just get the walker into your car and goodbye. And
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  Speaker 1: let me know when you get to the hotel because
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  Speaker 1: you were so special to me. So I'm glad to
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  Speaker 1: expose that Jerry, Gary, whatever the hell his name is,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't great. I'm glad that she got out. They had
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  Speaker 1: a prenup. So we don't have anything to worry about.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah. That's the end of that. So we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still looking for the golden gay. I would like
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  Speaker 1: to see a late-in-life lesbian or late-in-life gay guy. Not
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  Speaker 1: someone that's been gay his whole life. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it'll be an interesting thing. And I
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  Speaker 1: believe the latest Bachelor, his dad did come out later
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  Speaker 1: in life because I saw him say that in an interview.
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  Speaker 1: So here's to the golden gay. Think about it. Could
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  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Okay. Now this is a sad...
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  Speaker 1: story that's going to lead to a longer conversation from me.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Marissa Roth has died. She was a popular TikToker
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  Speaker 1: known for weighing in on celebrity gossip. She was about
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  Speaker 1: 36 years old and her family announced that she died
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  Speaker 1: last week. As of today, we don't know what she
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  Speaker 1: died from. She did have colon cancer, but she was
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  Speaker 1: not in a, she was doing videos about a week
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  Speaker 1: ago So it wasn't like she was in hospice or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. So we don't know what she died
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  Speaker 1: from as of now. But the story is really tragic,
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  Speaker 1: but quite interesting of how this involves celebrity gossip. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that I have never really come across this
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  Speaker 1: girl because you know how much I'm on TikTok. The
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  Speaker 1: algorithm knows what I like. I watch a lot of
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  Speaker 1: other creators that talk about pop culture or do deep dives.
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  Speaker 1: But what she did was she did a lot of
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  Speaker 1: blind items. Let me explain what blind items are. It's
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  Speaker 1: something that I do not cover because I think it's bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: It's anonymous stuff that people send in and then anonymous creators,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know who they are, they go behind other
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  Speaker 1: names Demois, NT Lawyer, whatever, Laney, whoever these people are,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. And they write them in a way
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  Speaker 1: that I guess they can't really be sued because they
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  Speaker 1: don't call them out until after it's been revealed. What
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  Speaker 1: I have found out from good research, but again, Juicy
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  Speaker 1: Scoop is comedic commentary on my opinion, okay? So what
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  Speaker 1: I say here is my opinion based on me walking
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  Speaker 1: on the earth for this many years being in this business.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of these stories are just straight up bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them, the people just make out and pull
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  Speaker 1: from the sky. Some, I believe, they're putting them out
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  Speaker 1: there because they have a relationship with someone who's like,
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  Speaker 1: put this out there to hurt my enemy or distract
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  Speaker 1: people from me or help me, whatever. They give these
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  Speaker 1: stories that are not real. Some are stolen from other creators.
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  Speaker 1: and regurgitated to look like their blind item. But these
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  Speaker 1: groups that are anonymous on Reddit or whatever, again, all
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  Speaker 1: anonymous people talking can perpetuate these stories. And now with
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  Speaker 1: the rise of TikTok, they get deeper and bigger and people,
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: it goes to like the famous story of Richard Gere
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  Speaker 1: that happened 30 years ago when there was no social media.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody just started a rumor saying that He was sent
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  Speaker 1: to the hospital because he was having some funky sexual
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  Speaker 1: relationship and a gerbil was stuck in his anus, okay?
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  Speaker 1: That was the story. To this day, we remember it.
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  Speaker 1: We know it's not true now, but that was a
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  Speaker 1: big story. And these stories have gone on through blind
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  Speaker 1: items in the last 15 years that are really damaging
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  Speaker 1: and not real. Also with the rise of Instagram where
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  Speaker 1: people will just send in An anonymous email to one
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  Speaker 1: of these creators that we don't know who they are.
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  Speaker 1: So they could be at a party. They could be
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  Speaker 1: talking to you. They could be at your table. They
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  Speaker 1: could be Monica from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know. You know what I say. I'm Heather McDowell,
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Cube. What I say, if I say I don't
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  Speaker 1: really like this show or I think this is going
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  Speaker 1: on with this person's marriage, I'm standing behind it. You
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  Speaker 1: might not like me when you see me at a
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  Speaker 1: party because you're like, that bitch said she thinks I–
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: you know, that I'm whatever, that I'm insecure or hypocritical. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've called stars hypocritical. Yes, I have. So those people
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  Speaker 1: that have called, have said they're hypocritical, they may not
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  Speaker 1: like me because that's my opinion of them. But they
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  Speaker 1: know that I said it. I didn't create, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a juicy scoop that's just like someone pouring juice in
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  Speaker 1: a scooper and you never know who I am. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But Sometimes this content is good and interesting, but the
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  Speaker 1: blind item stuff I've never been into for this reason
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  Speaker 1: because there's no facts behind it. It could be someone
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  Speaker 1: could just write in, I saw Heather McDonald at Ralph's
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  Speaker 1: and she was screaming at a checker and then she
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  Speaker 1: took her bag and screamed at her son and tripped
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  Speaker 1: and fell and I saw it. And then that person
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  Speaker 1: then posts it. And they're like, oh, my God, I
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  Speaker 1: remember hearing that. And then everyone comes. I remember hearing
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  Speaker 1: that Heather would go to Ralph's. I remember, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just so a lot of these these big
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  Speaker 1: stars that get these stories, they don't address them. They
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  Speaker 1: just let it go. And they're like, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to address this ridiculous story because it's ridiculous. And if
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  Speaker 1: I try to, you know, defend myself, then it gives
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  Speaker 1: more light to these people who are making money off
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  Speaker 1: these crazy fake stories about me. With this girl, she
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  Speaker 1: would take all those stories and regurgitate it and share
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  Speaker 1: it in, I guess, a very funny, entertaining way in
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  Speaker 1: which she has a lot of fans and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people, other creators on TikTok that are very sad
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  Speaker 1: about what happened to her that we don't know. One
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: of the things that she was doing was, remember when
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: I talked about all the videos that were on TikTok
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  Speaker 1: about people making fun of JLo's scene from her documentary
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  Speaker 1: about making her music movie where she's like i'm just
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  Speaker 1: that crazy good this hair reminds me of that crazy
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  Speaker 1: girl running up and down the bronx 16 years old
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  Speaker 1: crazy crazy girl and that and the bodega um where
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  Speaker 1: she orders her food from the bodega and people don't
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  Speaker 1: think that she was authentically from you know jenny for
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  Speaker 1: the bronx i didn't really think that was like a
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  Speaker 1: bronx way to order a bodega sandwich i don't know
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  Speaker 1: i'm not from the bronx I'm from the south side
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  Speaker 1: of Ventura, okay? Boulevard in the valley, 818 till I die.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever. So all of that, I made fun of.
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  Speaker 1: I made fun of it here. I didn't use JLo's music.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't cut a clip of her from her show
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  Speaker 1: and use it to make a video. I just acted
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  Speaker 1: it out and talked about it and put it on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. So I'm safe. But what happens on the
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: TikToks and stuff is that people will take, clips from
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  Speaker 1: her movie, which she owns the copyright of, or her music,
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  Speaker 1: and then whatever they want to do, discuss it, make
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  Speaker 1: fun of it, whatever. Well, she got her team, allegedly,
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  Speaker 1: to go, hey, this is a copyright infringement. They got
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  Speaker 1: a hold of TikTok people, and this girl's TikTok allegedly
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  Speaker 1: got taken down and she had over 750,000 followers and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: she was very, very upset about it and she did
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  Speaker 1: a video about how upset she was. I've worked on
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  Speaker 1: this for four years. I make money off of TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: How is it that this big star has the power
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  Speaker 1: to do this? I mean, it is copywritten material. That's
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  Speaker 1: her movie. She spent $ 20 million on it. If she
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  Speaker 1: was upset by it, I think there's a better way
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  Speaker 1: to go about it. I think it would have been
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  Speaker 1: funny if she did her own TikTok laughing about That
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: particular scene, like a funny one I saw is that
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  Speaker 1: someone put her voice over the dog, a little dog
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  Speaker 1: with crazy hair. And it was going like, oh, who's
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: that crazy girl walking, running around the streets? She could
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  Speaker 1: have made fun of it like that. Like, that is funny.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Everybody loved that scene. But again, it
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  Speaker 1: is her voice. It is her music. She owns the thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I get it. But this girl is very upset
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  Speaker 1: about that. And then she was able to regain like 175,000 followers.
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  Speaker 1: I also know that other people that have made a living, again,
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  Speaker 1: being anonymous, putting out blind items, some of which that
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  Speaker 1: are horrific lies, which I'll go deeper into my Patreon,
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  Speaker 1: which comes out every Friday, pretty shocking stuff that is
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  Speaker 1: completely untrue. And there's a documentary coming out about one
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: of these horrible lies that a creator that makes a
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: lot of money, you know, who's acting like he's somebody
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that he's not, That whole story I will tell on Patreon.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: But this is all, this is happening. And I'm wondering
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: if this blind item stuff will start to go away
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Because it really shouldn't be taken seriously.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And when people are anonymous with their information and there's
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: nothing behind it, I don't like that it also runs
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: reality show storylines when it could be a producer on
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: those Reddit pages, writing something like, ooh, I saw Jax
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: talking to a girl at a restaurant. And then the producer,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying hypothetically, and the producer goes, hey, Sheena,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: did you see the Vanderpump Reddit log about how this
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: person was hanging out with this other girl? Whoa. Oh,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: and then they talk about it. And now it's a
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: storyline that That has no real merit. Like, unless you've
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: seen the person, unless there's a photo, unless the actual
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: other woman comes forward, then that's a real storyline. So
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not for this. Of course, I'm very sad that
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: this woman is not here. But I think the bigger
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: story is, you know, because people are like, oh, my God,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: did she... Did something happen to her because she lost
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: this income on TikTok? Because... Not only was Big Stars
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: angry about the way she presented her material, or was
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it because even maybe other people that created the blinds,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: she was taking the blind items from other creators and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: then regurgitating it, which that's what people do. I mean,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I talk about a Page Six article. I talk about
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a TMZ article. I didn't break the story. I didn't.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: But it's different when it's these blinds, I guess.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: So.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a bigger conversation to have in
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: this world of TikTok and gossip and celebrity news, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: which I'm a part of too. And, um, but I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: feel very sorry for her family and her friends. And
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: she was, um, you know, apparently very entertaining on when
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: she would get on the TikTok and talk. So, um,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Very interesting.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 20:16
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• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: filed against me. When your free will was about to
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: be taken from you, what would you do if it
• 20:29
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• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 20:33
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• 20:36
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
• 20:37
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• 20:39
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• 20:43
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• 20:46
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• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 20:51
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• 20:54
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• 20:56
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• 20:57
  Speaker 2: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:01
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• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, J-Lo allegedly, according to Us Weekly, is disappointed over
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the lackluster concert sales. So, I mean, J-Lo has not
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: been having a great couple months, as I just explained.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And she has all these big shows coming up. A
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: bunch she did cancel. And, you know, it's hard. I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: don't know what she's charging for these tickets. I don't
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: know what city she's going to. But it is hard
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to sell tickets to any show. And, you know, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that's why people like to do residencies or they try
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to be more selective, unless you're Taylor Swift. Like it is,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: it is hard. And so sometimes you see some of
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the biggest bands all of a sudden be like, oh,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: we're so sorry. Family emergency. We had to, we'll reschedule
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: or you'll get your money back or whatever. And it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes because they are seeing that it is just not
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: selling and based on statistics or whatever, it's not going to,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it's not going to sell 7,000 tickets in the last week.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So like, what are we going to do? Do you,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Do you want to come and perform? Do you want
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the news out that all these tickets have been discounted?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Will that make your reputation look worse? It's better just
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: not to do the show. So I find her to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: be a great performer. I like her music, but that's
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: what's going on with her. Big news in the Real
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills world. Crystal has announced she did
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a video a couple days ago saying, I will not
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: be returning to the 14th season of Real Housewives of
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. And she looked cute, just talked to the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: camera and did like a reel about it. And she said,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I never thought that I would ever be on a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: show like this. And every year that I was asked back,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the last three years, I was so honored to do it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It's bittersweet. I'm happy to have other opportunities coming up,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever that might be. And so I think
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it's very clear without her saying it that she was
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: not asked back because she goes, I was asked back
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: all these other years. I think she wasn't asked back.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, but I also think Her family
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't really destroyed. Her marriage wasn't destroyed. There was when
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I had Anna Marie on, who was also not asked back,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: they had a conflict. And it was that Crystal was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like questioning whether she was really about her medical degree
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and what she did in medicine. And it was kind
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of a weird thing. And then Anna Marie, after she
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: did my show, I think she did another show when
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: she knew she wasn't going to be asked back. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: got a little more real and went after Crystal and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was like, Crystal, after she went after me off camera,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I'm just doing that for the show,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: something like that. Being that she was trying to have
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: action happen in the show, and that's why Anne-Marie said,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you should be grateful I made you relevant. Well, it
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: didn't work for either one of them. Trying to produce
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: or not, it didn't really work. I think most people felt...
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that she was a nice person. I like her personally.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed interviewing her. I thought she was really cute
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and outgoing. I don't know that that makes the best housewife.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a longevity. Her life was that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: She had a brother who was in music and broke
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: up with his girlfriend over COVID, and we had to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: see that. It was pretty dull. She has two little
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: cute kids. She likes to make her authentic Chinese food.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: It's all very nice, but it's not super juicy for
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the housewives. And you got to keep it going. So
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's the last we're going to see
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of her, but we'll see what she does. She has
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: this coconut water company that she did herself. That's huge.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Of course, her husband's a huge director. She's going to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: be fine. And I think this is a nice little platform.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe she'll do other things. Maybe she will get in
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the cooking field. Maybe she'll be a judge on a show.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I think it I think there could be some really
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: great other opportunities for her. But then I noticed this.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I follow all about the Real Housewives on Instagram. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it appeared that Anna Marie was answering to something that
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: she believed Crystal posted on ex-Twitter, formerly Twitter. And It
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: was pretty bad. So then she says, so she believed
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that Crystal wrote something like to Anna Marie, like, really,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: karma girl? Why don't you say that to your rapist,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: transphobic husband? And then Anna Marie went on and said,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: false allegations against athletes are easy. Anyone with actual money
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: knows that. You worry about your husband, the lying king,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: because he directed Lion King, and your brother, for that matter. Oh,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and that video of you blurting out the N-word, getting out, fake, woke, racist.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I saw this. I was like, oh my God, what
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: is this? This is so ugly and dark. Maybe this
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: is why both of you were not asked back because
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: they knew there was so much animosity. Well, we find
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: out later that that wasn't Crystal's She never wrote the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: thing about Anna Marie's husband. The account was something different.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It was like crystals or something. They added a letter,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: but they put her face. So she never said that
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to Anna Marie. But Anna Marie answered back to the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: fake account something pretty horrible. Hopefully Anna Marie has taken
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it down. written her an apology and we'll just stay
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: off social media for like three months. That's my advice.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, when I first thought it was real,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't believe there's a video. I think
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: she's just furious, but this stuff is, can be very dangerous.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And it's, it's a bummer. Like I've said, that so
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: much of the reality shows that we watch now are
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: driven by the social media and all the fans getting
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: involved and all of them being involved with each other
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: on social media in like a very negative way. Oh,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in case you didn't know, Karma's a bitch. Yeah, Karma's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a bitch is doing great. Going to Miami for Pride.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: So I just saw her perform the song. We're talking
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: about Jojo Siwa. And she is such a great dancer.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And the crowd seems to love it. But the Karma's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a bitch song was given to this other singer, Brittany Smith,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: like 12 years ago. And it's exactly the same song,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: but then somehow she didn't want it, came back to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: some other producer and then came to Jojo. But I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: don't think Jojo knew that someone else had performed this
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: song and recorded it and even did a music video
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: about it like 12 years ago. And that's what I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: think is so kind of crazy that like, that she
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't even have this knowledge. And she's kind of like, whatever,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: who cares? I'm good. I'm doing something different. You know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: so she's happy. She's happy. Also speaking of Real Housewives
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills, Christina Applegate said about 10 years ago,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: she was asked if she'd be interested in joining the cast.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Who are we going to get for the new cast?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Bette Midler, according to Raider Online, said she would really
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: like a spot. I don't think that's going to happen.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think she would fit in with the women, really.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I think she's too big of a star. I think
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: she's not the right age. Like I said, I would
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: like Hilaria Baldwin. I'm fine with Camille coming back and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Denise Richards. That, to me, would be the way to go.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And or all of them, Kathy and Kim Richards along
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: with Kyle. But apparently... um, of the housewives, the, they're all,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the ones coming back are Dorit, um, Dorit, Kyle, Garcelle, Sutton,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and Erica. So we just need like a couple more. And, um,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the only new one I want is Hilaria. That's it. Okay.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Robin Dixon. She was straight up honest. She's on Real
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Housewives of Potomac. She's like, hi, I was fired. Whatever.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I was fired. I don't know what's going on with Potomac.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Candace also is not coming back and she's pregnant. Um,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: This other girl, I forgot her name. She was the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: newest hire. She's not coming back. The season did not
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: get a lot of buzz. The juiciest thing was this girl, Mia,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: divorced her husband. She was honest about being like a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: gold digger. And it came out in the reunion that
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: one of her children might not be his. And it
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: might be her old boyfriend that she apparently was engaged
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to before she married him. I mean, That whole thing
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: is juicy, but we didn't totally see it play out
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: on the show. So, of course, she's staying. But, yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that's kind of that's that. So many so much Housewives
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: news on Miami. This woman, Alexis, who was married to
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: her third husband, who was pretty cute and he was
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: like a real estate. commercial broker or something, though they
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: didn't own any property, which was kind of weird. But
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they lived in this beautiful luxury apartment, which I think
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: maybe he managed the building and they got a deal
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: on the apartment. And last season we saw that they
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: had to leave because the owner was going to sell it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: He then said it's better to rent than buy and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: did this whole like masterclass of why it's better to
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: rent property than buy, I guess, in Miami. I don't know.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: There was stories and rumors going on, which is on
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the show that they're not financially as strong as they present. She,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: of course, like any housewife is very flashy with the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: label-y things. He has filed for divorce and she has said,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked by it. And they're currently filming. So again,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: this will make, there's nothing that a housewife audience enjoys
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: more than sitting back and watching other women their age
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: who have appear to have more money, better plastic surgery,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And a fancier lifestyle, get divorced. So every time there's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a divorce, I think that the producers are dancing in
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a corner and just like, oh, I'm so sorry to
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: hear you're getting divorced.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Woo!
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Because we want to see it. It is what it is.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It's juicy. It gives us stuff to talk about. They
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: seem like they had a lot of passion. He seemed
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: like he was into it. But you don't know. You
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: get on the show. People go, why? Why are there
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: so many divorces when– people open their life and they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: become housewives because of this. It's the man ego, the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: male ego, the male ego. A lot of these guys are,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know, either successful, good looking or both. And they've
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: had a pretty great life and they are like, sure, honey,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: go on the show. And then, especially now with all
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the social media, somehow they get on it and they
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: start reading the comments, you miss leg day at the gym,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: where's your chin? All this stuff that they're like, what?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: They've never heard negative stuff about them their whole life.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Then they start to probably take it out on their wife.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And then their wife is like, I don't need you
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to be a dick to me. I'm going to BravoCon
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and people are going to cheer for me like I'm
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a rock star. So you, I don't need you. I'm
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: going to sell candles. And they start to fight. and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: they go into their own separate rooms and they get
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: on their phones and they start reading the hate or
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the love. So the love blows up their brains or
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: the love is the guy getting DMS from other women
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: watching the show, seeing if they'll respond. I mean, it's bad,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: which I have said, if you're going to go on
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: these shows, I would almost hire, just like I said,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: there's a sober coach. I would almost hire a social
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: media coach, um, someone who helps you with your social media,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: but also someone who's like, okay, I'm taking these apps
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: off your phone or you cannot go here or whatever
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: it is. Very limited to DMs. No one can DM
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: you unless you follow them. I don't know what it is,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: but that is what I would suggest if someone wants
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to go on this show or if you're someone who
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: wants to look for a new business to create, Maybe
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you are someone who reported on blind items and you
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: want to get out of that. Maybe you do this.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Monica,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I just listened to an interview. She was on Nick
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Viall's show and he was a little frustrated with her.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: It was, you know, but she is pregnant with her
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: fifth child. She said it was this guy she met
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: when she was shooting the show. He's like a sporty guy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: He's 10 years her junior. She's like 39. This is
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: her fifth child. And they're just boyfriend and girlfriend. Who
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: knows what will happen? She's happy to be pregnant. But
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the way she talked about the show and everything was
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting. I thought she would go on to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: be like– I feel like if the– I don't know
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: now if my prediction is right about her going to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: go– if she's going to go on the villains or
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: on traitors or whatever because– I think she's been a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: little bit too exposed. I think she's been too honest
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: in these interviews and later cards out. I think if
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: she would have stepped back and remained a little mysterious
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and been like, guess I'm not coming back. Won't you
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: want to know how I, you know, like, She really
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: lays it on, which, hey, we like authentic and honest people.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: But if that's when you're on the show, we want
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you to be authentic. But if you're not asked back
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to be on the show, now you've got to go, okay,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: what do I want to save for myself? He kept
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: saying like, hey, that would kind of bother me if
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: someone that was trolling me or I thought was a
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: fake account, much like what I talked about previously, then
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: was like working with me or working for me. And
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I agreed with that. And she just kind of didn't
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: get it. She basically... said that the actual casting people
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: did not know about it, but she felt that Heather
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Gay did, being that Heather Gay and Heather Gay's hairdresser
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: was one of the people on the reality Von Teese.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just felt like I don't think
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: she's right for the show regardless of this. They can't
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: move on from this. And what do they do? They
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: bring back Mary. Mary is the religious leader of her
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: church that is now defunct. I went to look at
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago. Wow. I mean, what
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: that woman's done with people and taking their money and
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: convincing them that she's like the second coming is so
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: bizarre and so crazy, but they need a crazy person.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: And one thing Monica said was, she was pretty honest.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: She's like, I think I was a hail Mary. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: literally think they were like, well, we don't have Jen
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Shaw anymore. So we'll just get this check with her
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: crazy past of having an affair with her former brother-in-law
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: being divorced and all of this. And, but you know,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And that she worked for Jen Shah and she talked
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: about that. She's like, I did this whole thing because
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I hated Jen Shah because I worked for Jen Shah
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and she was awful. And so all of us that
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: worked for her were like, let's create this account and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: show how awful she was. And all the cast members
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: loved the account because we were exposing how awful she was.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: And they were all scared of her and they were
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: all happy to see her go and be behind bars
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: because she probably was so scary. She probably was threatening them.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: with exposing whatever secret they didn't want on the show.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: And it just, I don't know, I feel like the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: magic revealed element of these housewives and reality shows is
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: definitely kind of ruining the fun of it. It really is.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And knowing that these women are doing so many things
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and maybe being very performative or producing themselves or acting
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: out or acting like they're more angry at a cast
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: member than they really would be, so that they can
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: stay on the show because now their lifestyle requires them
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to stay on the show is kind of where I'm like, oh,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know where this is going, but of course
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'll keep watching. On Real Houses of OC, the new girl, Jennifer,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: remember her? And she had the boyfriend that everyone thought
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he cheated on her in the past. You probably are like, Heather,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Anyway,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: they're getting married. They're engaged. So there's one person that's
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: staying together. I talked about on my Patreon about OJ.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I also... shared on there on the tier of Juicy
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Crimes an episode that I did many years ago on
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this show with Kim Goldman, which was fascinating. It was
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: fascinating for me to listen to again. So if you're
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: part of that, there's a two-parter on there, and it's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: really interesting. And one of the things that was so
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: interesting about O.J., his death, is that this book, If
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I Did It, in which he got with this writer
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: who coincidentally was a witness for the prosecution. It's just
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: so crazy. He was a witness for the prosecution. He
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: was like a neighbor who heard the dog barking, which
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: set the timeline because the dog saw a horrific crime
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of its owner, Nicole, be killed and Ron Goldman. So
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the dog's crazy barking is what set the timeline. And
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: would he have enough time to do that crime based
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: on the dog barking? get to his house on Rockingham,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: change his clothes, jump over the fence, get into the room,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: change his clothes, and get to the limo, which the
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: limo said he was late so that was all super
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: important so that guy was on the stand on the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: court tv talking about that guy then got hired to
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: work on the book with oj if i did it
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: in which they they um wrote the book together And
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: basically the books was him saying, if I did it,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: this is how I would do it. And it was
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: like this create this like fantasy weird story where he
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: had this friend, OJ had this friend that was with him.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And people were like, who's the friend? Is it his
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: older child? What is this? And most people said, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: think it's his alter ego. And that is, this is
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: what really happened. But he was not with another person.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: It was like, his alter ego, and that's how he
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: can compartmentalize and live his life like he didn't do it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's crazy. But when the Goldman sued
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: in the civil suit about this and the book, they
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: wanted the book off the shelves because it was so horrible.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: They actually gained the rights to that book, and the
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: judge said it needs to be promoted because he has
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: all these other debts he has to pay. So as
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the book sold, not only did the Goldmans get a
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: small portion of it, but also other debtors got money
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: from it. This is my understanding. So now the book
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: is available and out there. And so hopefully the profits
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: will then go to the Goldman family because they won
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: a $ 33 million judgment. They got very little of it
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: over these years. Um, obviously it's been very hard for
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: anybody involved in this case to hear that he died
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: because it just brings up all those emotions, whatever those
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: emotions might be. Um, but I mean, I remember like
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: going to a Barnes and Noble and like reading it
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: for like an hour and a half cause I didn't
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: want to buy it, but it was very bizarre and
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: just such a weird circle. And also one thing Kim
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: said in the interview with me so many years ago
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: is They went on Oprah, she and her dad, and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: talked about all of this. And it was like that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: night or the next day that OJ went and broke
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: into the hotel room and held the guy hostage to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: get his memorabilia back. So I don't know if she
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: kind of felt like, did we trigger that kind of
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: anger that then resulted in him doing nine years in
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: prison for that? I don't know, but it's crazy. And
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: now the attorney has said, First, he said, oh, they
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: won't get any money from his estate. He didn't have
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: very much money at all, O.J. I don't even know
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: if he had, like, a few hundred thousand money. You know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: he did ways of, like, where his kids could, like,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: buy a house but then have him live in it to, like,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: protect money. There was a lot of shady stuff. But
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: hopefully— The portion of the book sales will go to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the Goldman family. But the rest of the civil judgment
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: still remains unpaid. So we'll see what happens with that. Okay. Also,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the talk was canceled after 15 seasons. And that is
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a show that's changed cast members many times. I have
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit of interest in it because I went
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: out for it to be one of the original people.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And I went to the very end. in which they
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: like matched us with people. And I was, you know,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: talking with Julie, what's her name? Julie Moonves and who
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: kind of created it. And then of course they wanted
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Sharon Osbourne and Holly Robinson-Pete. And that was the original cast.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Then it changed. Anyway, it's not coming back and I
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: don't care because they never once had me on. And
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I've told you this before. I had publicists pitch me
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: over and over when I had two stand-up specials come out,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: when I had both my books come out, when they
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: had little portions of hot topics with comics. No, I
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: could not get on that show for the life of me.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So goodbye. Who cares? Okay. Gypsy Rose Blanchard, a little
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: bit update on why she is divorcing her husband. She
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: said he was a food hoarder. And he would like
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: hoard all this food. And one day she cleaned it
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: out of the refrigerator and he got very irate. And
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: that was triggering to her because her mom would hoard
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: food and control food and all that kind of stuff.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And I thought that was interesting that she said it
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: reminded her, his actions reminded her of reminded her of
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: her mom because a lot of people have noticed how
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: much her mom looks like her husband or how much
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: her husband looked like her mom. Very similar face shape, nose,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: very similar. So that was weird. And then the fact
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that she was saying it was reminding her of her mother. Also,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: she said he snored and he liked to keep the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: room very hot at night. And she's like, She was like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I had a better sleep in prison. So get me
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the hell out of this hot house with the hoarding
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of the food and the loud snoring. I slept better
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: in prison. So she's living her life. But that was
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: why they broke up. Meghan Markle has started this company.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It is the American Riviera Orchard Company. And she has
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: created her first items. product, which is rustic jam, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: guess from her own trees. I don't know. But all
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: of her good friends who have a big following received
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: it and they posted about it. This was like the
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: PR box that like basically Kim Kardashian does it with
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: like new skims or whatever, sends it to a bunch
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of people. And everyone's like, oh my God, girl, it's
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: a really smart way to get the news out. I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: don't know how much this jam is going to cost.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: in Real Housewives of Miami, Julia was going to do jams.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: She was going to do jams. She was going to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: do jams and she was going to charge $ 30 for
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: each jar of jam, which her friends on the show
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: were like, Heather, I mean, Julia, I don't think you're
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: going to sell that much jam for that price. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: don't know how much this jam is going to cost,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: but this is very like the whole idea of like,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: this is very like the Magnolia people that have their
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: big line at Target. It's, She's going to, you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: get into cooking, YouTubing. She brags about how she has chickens.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Don't forget who had chickens first. The whole traditional wife thing,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: it's called trad life, like on social media where it's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: like young women are like, I want to make the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: bread from scratch and I can because my husband is
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: so wealthy. I don't have to work and I can
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: need my own dough. I don't know. I don't get it.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: It's not something I want to do. And jam is
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: just basically cooked berries with sugar. So I don't think
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it's that big of a deal. But I mean, if
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: there was a jam, I mean, I would buy like
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the Smucker's Low Sugar Jam. I don't know. Anyway, so
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: that's what she's doing. We'll see where she goes with that.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: But I did see something that her half-brother, now she
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: has the two, she has the sister, Samantha Markle, who
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: wrote the book, The Pushy Sister. Which was about her sister, Megan.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Megan's like, I didn't really grow up with these people.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: They were like 18 and 20 when I was born. Whatever.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: But the brother was, I saw the most bizarre thing.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: The brother put on a brown wig. I mean, he's
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: like mid-50s or 60. Put on a big wig and
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: was like imitating her and calling her like a funny
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: name and mocking her and whatever. I was just like,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that is just so weird, dude. Like, what are you doing? Like,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: just let it go. You don't like her. You're not
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: friends with her anymore. Like, they're so mad that she's
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: famous and that she wants nothing to do with them
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: that they won't stop. Instead of just being like, my
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: sister's famous. She doesn't want anything to do with me.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I wish she did, but whatever. If she's that awful,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: why do you want anything to do with her either? Like,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: let it go. You can see she didn't send him
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: any jams. I went to go see Joe Coy, and
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that was really fun. We were in Palm Desert area,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: La Quinta, at our house for Coachella weekend. No, I
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: did not go to any of the Coachella stuff. I
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: could hear it from my house, and it was fun. Instead,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: we went to Agua Caliente to see my friend Joe Coy,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the comedian, and we had so much fun. And as
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I said before, my son Drake and his son went
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: to elementary school together, so it was fun that they reconnected.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: We brought my nephew. And so that was really fun.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting because now let's talk about
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Vanderpump Rules. There's this girl on there that is dating
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz. And she goes by Joe. But Tom Schwartz
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: calls her Joseph. Joseph. And she calls Tom Schwartz T-Money.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: And they are... You guys, you do not need to
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: watch this show. If you're like, Heather, don't do a
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: recap of it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I have to tell you why this is interesting, and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you will find it interesting. So the history of this
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: girl is she's a hairdresser. She knew Kristen Doughty, who's
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: now on the Valley, and would see Tom Schwartz around.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: And shortly after his divorce from Katie... She saw him somewhere.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: And now, according to the latest interview that she did,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: which I listened to on Rachel, Raquel Rachel's podcast, she
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: tells the story of it. And, but I think that
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: she got the name Joseph, I think from Joe Coy.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I think they probably watched a special together and just
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: thought that was so funny. I don't know how they
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: got each other's nicknames, but that's what I think. And I,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I mentioned this when I'm on Lala's podcast that I'm like,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I think she very much wanted to make a splash
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and be on the show because she would do all
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: these things trying to be like funny and quirky, much
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like the assistant on there too. Um, like doing faces
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: and being like, and, um, and at one point she
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: goes and they go on this like, um, this little
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: boat thing where they're like peddling, but it's a swan.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And she just tells a story about how she had
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: a pet turtle and it kind of came out of nowhere.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Now I know things are edited, but it almost felt
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: like she was saving stories and things to be funny.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: She's very natural. She wears very little bit of makeup
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and she's a hairdresser. So we see this relationship unfold.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: She lives with him. She says, well, I was just
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: trying to save money. So I like saw him at
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a party and I'm like, God, I think I could
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: like live with you for a while. And he's like, sure.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I'll I have an extra bedroom. So I'm like, OK.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: And like for a while, I don't know why like
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Katie was mad that I was living with her ex-husband.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean, for a while, like, no, it was
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: like six days. Nothing happened. And then we got feelings
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: for each other. So I'm like, God, like I'm so mean.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: These girls are so mean to me. And they have
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: this huge platform. And she's like saying that, you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: since she's been on TV, you know, it's just been ruthless.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: The online hate she's gotten. Again, welcome to the world
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of this. You again, don't have to be online. You
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: don't have to look at this stuff. I know I've
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: been sucked in. I've been affected. I treat things differently
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: now so I can speak on it. I know how
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: hard it is. I know how frustrating it is when
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: you read things from anonymous people that are not true
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: about you. But like, it is not Sheena's and Katie's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: fault that people found you to be annoying on the show.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: It's not. And we don't have power over our followers.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: None of these people, myself included, are ever saying, hey,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoopers, we ride at dawn. Please start writing every
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: single person. Please start writing this person the most horrific
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: things that you can because that would make me happy.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: That's not Selena Gomez's. That's not anything. What I've said
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: before are there are bots there are bots that you
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: could buy to go after your enemy there are bots
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: that you could buy and put in a thing that
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: could go and look like your enemy's followers going after
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you so it's like oh my god my you know
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: my enemy's followers wrote this horrible thing look and there's
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and they're anonymous people they're anonymous bots there's just no
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: way to know so it's like you shouldn't you're not
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: a victim here. You're not a victim because of online bullshit,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: because you chose to be on a show that you
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: were friends with all these people for years. You were
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: trying to get on the show for years. You got
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: on the show. You fell in love with Tom Schwartz.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz was like, okay, yeah, I guess you're good.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: And the way she would describe their relationship, she'd be like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: we just had so much fun together. We would just
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: be laughing about anything. I'd be like, hey, why did
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the turtle cross the road? And he'd be like, to
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: get to the forest. And we would just like die laughing.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that isn't funny. Like, that isn't funny. Then
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: she's like, and it was really upsetting when Sheena, I, okay,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: so she's always like, she's always wearing a hat like this, okay?
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: So they go to this party and Sheena's like, why
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: are you always wearing a hat? Like, you're a hairdresser.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: You have cute braids. Show it. And she took her
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: hat off and So, I mean, Raquel's sitting there interviewing
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: her and she's like, I mean, that is so offensive. Like,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: who takes somebody else's hat off? No, I mean, it's like,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if these two girls try to say that
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: what Sheena did while having cocktails at a DJ night
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: at Hotel Ziggy or whatever the fuck is any kind
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: of assault, like, get the fuck out of here. Like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And so she's, you know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: saying her thing. She's clearly not going to come back
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: on the show. That's why she did Rachel's show. She's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: not going to come back on Vanderpump. It's over. Tom
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Schwartz has a brand new girlfriend that he is bringing
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: around who he gushed about when I talked to him
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: at the Valley premiere. He's putting her on podcasts and things. She,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: you know, he's talking about her freely and her whole
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: gripe was, she was like, I mean, team money and
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I have such a great time. I mean, if he
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't on a show and if he didn't like, you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: have a phone and we were just alone in a
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: forest together, we'd be the perfect couple. Well, yeah, if
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you're the only two people on earth, you'll be the
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: perfect couple. Cause guess what? There's nobody else. So let
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: this be a lesson to you girls. If the guy
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: is not bringing you around because it was all about the,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the people didn't really I guess he wasn't really talking
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: about it that way. They were friends with benefits. She
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: said he would never come out to the West Side.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: She'd always have to go near his house. He wouldn't
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: go to paddleboard with her. She's like, he wouldn't go
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: to my basketball games. I guess she played basketball. She's like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't even wear the jersey that I made him. Okay,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: so you get it. Now you know. And people watching this,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: if you're in that position where the guy is like,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I just like that it's so easy. I just like
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: that it's not a relationship. He doesn't like you. So
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: unless you're on the same exact... thing of like, I
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: don't want to marry you either. I don't want to
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: be a couple. I'm not, I don't expect to be
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: taken as your plus one to a wedding. You're not
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: coming as my plus one to the wedding. If there's
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: any unevenness, get out. Cause it's never going to change
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: and you're going to be hurt, but you got to
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: be on the show. And then she did the ultimate
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: thing to get him back. She dyed his hair, platinum blonde,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: a horrible blonde. He looked hideous he looks so much
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: cuter with brown hair and he went for it he
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: let her do her thing I don't think that was
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: great for her hairdressing business but to each his own
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: you know I definitely think it was going to prevent
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: him from getting as late getting laid as much as
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you know with his brown hair so maybe that was
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: her plan um anyway I yes did it make the
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: show interesting yes of course the producers wanted her on
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it she'll do just fine she's selling hats and she's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: got her um hairdressing thing. Now, what was interesting is that, um,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: her real name is not Joe, her real name. Um,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: now Betches has written about this internet sleuths found it.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: This is from connect connection, queen and X. Her name
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: is Kaylee Wenberg. And that was her name. That's what
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: she went by in 2010. I guess her middle name
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: is Joe or Joanne or something. So then when she
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: came to L.A. with this guy who allegedly it was
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: a triangle situation and they left the girl from behind.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: And so this is not, you know, whatever. She came
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: with some guy. Then she changed her name to Joe
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: and wrote it like J.O. Like like I guess I
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: would be short for Joanne. Whatever. She changed her name
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: just like Raquel, just like Lala did. Lala was Lauren.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I guess it's not that big deal to change your name.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, whatever. I just thought that
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: was interesting. So that's the whole story with her. But she's,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: you know, she has a big public Instagram. She's on
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: a show. And that's the thing, people. If you're dating
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: some guy and he's on a reality show, think about it.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: What will this mean? This means everyone's going to talk
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: about my looks. This means anything I say or do
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: can be used against me in a public forum. You're
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: not going to be protected at all if you choose
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: to go on a reality show. So you need to
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: know that. Vanderpump was very good last night. It was
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: very good. But they talked about when Raquel did a
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: podcast and they never mentioned that it was Bethany's podcast.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: And there was even some parts where I noticed that
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: it could have been like, hey, go in and just
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: say the podcast. All of them said, did you hear
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: the podcast? The podcast. She went on a podcast. Did
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you hear that Raquel went on a podcast? They never
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: said Bethany's podcast. I think that was deliberate because Bethany
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: is not in the good graces of Bravo anymore, obviously,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: with the reality reckoning. But they all talked about it.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: And it was a big deal when she did that interview.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: We all were talking about it. And so it does
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: make sense that they I appreciate that they talked about
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: it on camera because they could have all called each
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: other the night before and been like, let's really fuck her.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Let's not even talk about it on camera. But they
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to because they wanted to correct the things that
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: she said. She said Ariana and I weren't really good
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: friends ever. So Ariana's like, what? She said Sheena and
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I weren't really good friends. And it was a mutual situation.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Sheena wanted to correct that about rent and letting her stay.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So they did want to talk about it and they
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: used it on camera. Tom and James get together and
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: they both go back and forth about what she said
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: about each other on the show. Was she really in
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: love with James? No, she really wasn't. Was she really
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: in love with Tom? And James like, she wasn't really
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: in love with you either. They have like a really
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: real conversation. And James, I think is coming out really,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: really well this season. So also on Vanderpump Rules, it's
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: a hot topic season of like between Sheena, Lala, Ariana
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and Katie. They were always also close. Allie is there
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: who is the new girlfriend to James, which is interesting
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: because now she's got a musical career. She has a
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: song out. And she also tells him, I don't know
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: if I ever, I don't know that I see getting
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: married or having kids with you. And he's like, he
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: starts to cry. I mean, it was a very real episode.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: He starts to cry. He's like, I'm not living with
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: you for the last year and a half because I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: don't think you want to have my kids. Again, this
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: is how you get on the show. This is how
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Joe got on the show. This is how Raquel got
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: on the show through James. This is how Allie got
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: on the show through James. This is how Brittany got
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: on the show through Jax and is now on the Valley.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: The only real way you can get on the show
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: is through the vagina, I guess. I don't know. But
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: we have Lala now and she, people, she's getting some
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: heat because she is sharing in different interviews and also
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: on what we're seeing on the show. that she, people
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: think she's not being as supportive of Ariana and the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: house situation and you should move out. Why aren't you
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: moving out? And a lot of it is because, you know,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: when you own a property together, whether you have a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: child there or not, it's not, most attorneys will say,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: don't leave the property. Don't abandon the property. Don't abandon
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: the house. Don't abandon your child. It will look worse.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: So they, so Tom Sandoval and Ariana are like, What
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: are we going to do about this? She finally goes, okay,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I'll accept your offer for you to keep the house
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: and me to move out. Then he's like, well, maybe
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I can't come up with money. Tom Schwartz, why don't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: you get a loan so that I can stay in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: this house? And the whole time she's like, I would
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: have just sold the house back in March when the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: market was hotter. I shouldn't say that, but it was
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: hotter back last March, a year ago. But anyway, so
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: we see all that. Then we also see that Lala's like,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go the sperm donor route. Of course,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: she conceived her baby naturally with Randall Emmett, who we
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: saw on the show all the time. They were engaged.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to go to their wedding. They broke up.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: It was because, you know, what he did, it was
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: all public record or whatever. It was out there. Why
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: she broke up with him. Now she's saying like, I should,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you know, joking with Brittany on another show, like she
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: did not enjoy having, being intimate with him. So this
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: was a great way to get the her second child.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: And I do think, you know, if you want to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: have your kids close together and there isn't someone significant
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: in your life that you would ever want to have
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: a child with or co-parent with being that she's in
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a custody situation, that isn't ideal for her. So she
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: has this party and I think it's really great. It was,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: she had her top three choices. It's my understanding. You
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: don't get to see what the guy looks like now
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: because you might be able to find him. So you're
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: kind of looking at their baby photos. And then the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: guy says, writes what he wants to share about his life.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: And all of this is background checked. You can't lie
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: and say you went to medical school if you didn't.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: So this one, you know, studied accounting. This one is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: a medical student. This one is a musician. And they
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: all read it and they kind of all unanimously decide, okay,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: number one is it. So she's like, oh, I found
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: my sperm donor. I thought that was really fun. And
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I think that might be a cool thing for other
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: people to do if they go this route. It was
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: a great advertising for the Cairo, whatever that place is,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the sperm bank place. And it was kind of a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: cool situation. So we got to see that as well
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: on the show. So then we move over to The Valley,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: which is so real. Oh, my God. So real about
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: raising small kids, lack of a sex life, wondering, you know,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: do I want to have another or I'm unhappy and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I only have one. I should get out of this
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: marriage now. It is really good. I'm really liking all
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the cast members. And it is really kind of the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: surprise of the season of reality TV. It is really good. And,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: you know, so watch that. That was juicy. Then I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: watched the first episode of Hulu's The Vanderpump at, it's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: called The Villa. And that is amazing. so that basically it's,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: they go to this French villa and people go and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: stay there. And this staff is supposed to give them
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: a great experience. And Lisa Vanderpump's running it and it's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: all pink. And they have a, like poor man's Jax
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and Anastasi, where it's this couple, like he sounds like Jax.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: He's not as cute as Jax. He's younger than Jax,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: but he, they all obviously got cast from different jobs
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: that they had. Probably they found them on Instagram looking hot,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: being mixologists, whatever. So it's a fun, hot group of people.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: And then they have an on and off relationship. The
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Jacks look alike and the Stassi girl. So I'm like, OK,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: this is kind of it's kind of interesting. But unlike
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: a below deck, I don't know how many activities they
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: can really do with this house. So we'll see how
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: it goes. I was like, I'd go to this thing.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: This I would go to because this I'm not going
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: down a slide in my bathing suit. and having someone
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: say like, I was rude. Like I would be okay
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: being on land and just eating the food. I don't
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: care that the staff is getting wasted with me, whatever
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I'd like to go. So I put it out to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Lisa Vanderpump. I'm like, maybe I go there for like
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: my 25th wedding anniversary next year. She's like, do you
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: really want to do that? I don't know. I don't
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: know if they're looking for celebrities, but I would work
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: it around a, um, a trip. And that I would
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: kind of, that I would kind of do because I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: think it would be, More in my control and it
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: could be kind of fun. But, you know, how do
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: they want you to be extra demanding? Do you have
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: to look like an asshole? Do you have to complain
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: about Diet Coke? We don't know. These conjoined twins. A
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: lot of people said, Heather, you mentioned the conjoined twins
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: that got married. And I said, they're the only ones. Well,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: they are not. First, there's these other conjoined twins that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I talked about before. They passed like in the last
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: week at 62. That was where one was like on
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: a rolling chair. These two girls are Carmen and Lupita.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: And they are on TikTok. And they did a Q
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: & A and shared their story. So she said, Carmen says, yes,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I can drive because I have the right foot. So
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: I control the driving. I thought that was interesting. Carmen
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: also said, we share a bloodstream. So- If one dies,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: we will both die within a couple days. That's sad,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: but just so you know. Carmen also said, if one
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: of us is tired, we both don't have to both
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: be tired because we have two separate brains. Yes, one
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: of us can be awake and one of us can
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: be asleep because, again, different brains. We have two separate people.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: So as far as the sex goes, they said one
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: is asexual and the other one is dating. All right.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Courtney Love just said that Taylor Swift is great for girls,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't think she's a great artist. It's like, oh,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: shut up, Courtney Love. Meanwhile, Travis, Kelsey. So they went
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: to Coachella. They were in the VIP section. Teresa and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Louie were there and Louie was like filming them. She
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: had a baseball hat on. He had a hat. They cuddled.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: They enjoyed watching. The musicians and the singers and everything
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: had a great time. Everyone loves that she is just
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: enjoying life, being able to enjoy other artists, enjoying her
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: life as a woman in her young 30s with a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: hot boyfriend at Coachella. I thought that was great. He
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: just got a job hosting a show called Are You
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Smarter Than a Celebrity Game Show? This is Travis Kelsey
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: will be the host of it. Again, I totally am
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: not surprised by this. He loves the camera. He is
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a good personality. This will be a fun, easy show.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: And he has such a draw. People will watch it.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, are you smarter than a fifth grader type
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: of questions? But you can call on a celebrity to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: help you answer it. So it's not hard questions. And
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: you probably don't know it. But the celebrity that you're
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: asking to help probably doesn't know it either. So it'll
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: be like comedy and light and fun. I think that's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: a great move for him. Kelly Clarkson's divorce continues to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: go on. And she is saying that her ex-husband... That
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: he should give her back a couple million dollars because
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: he did this deal for her, but he doesn't have
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the right license. Only like a licensed agent like a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: William Morris or something can do these deals where they
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: take a commission. And him as her manager should have
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: never taken a commission. It just goes on that she's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: not giving up and she's fighting him. So also in
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: divorce world, Jenna Jameson, who was like one of the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: biggest porn stars, she was like the first person to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: like make product and make money off product like, I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: don't know, like a mold of her vagina and stuff
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: like that. Then she got married to Tito. She had
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: two kids and she got married to someone else. had
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: another kid. I don't know. Then she became a lesbian
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: and married this other woman. And now the, um, now
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: that other woman is filing for divorce and because she
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: said that, I just thought this was kind of interesting.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: She's filing for divorce because she said she was supposed
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: to be sober and she went to do an appearance
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: or something and she was drinking champagne and people were
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: sending the wife photos of Jenna drinking champagne. So she's like,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: so she did a TikTok and she's like, and that's
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: what I was like, that's it. The requirement of staying
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: with me is that you have to stay sober. And
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: it was interesting because a lot of the comments in
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: there were like, gosh, you know, you're going to leave
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: your wife because she like fell off the wagon. Like
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: that's not, for better, for worse. She's like, nope, that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: was the condition. Also, she says that Jenna said, oh,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: that she was financially stable. And then she found out
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: that Jenna owes some $ 500, 000 in like a tax debt. Also,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New Jersey is starting in May. And
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Andy had to go back and correct a statement that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: he made saying that the show couldn't be sustainable because
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: we now know that Teresa and Melissa never film one
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: scene together throughout the entire season. And they were like,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: what are you saying that the show's not going to
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: continue after this season? And so he kind of tried
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: to clear it up. Like, that's not really what I meant.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I think that, I think it'll be good. I think
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see that. And I think that's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: being authentic. Like if you had such a big beef
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: with your sister, you wouldn't still be like hanging out and,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and doing scenes with them. So I think it's going
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: to be, it's like push comes to shove. What will happen?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I think they always thought they would fold. What will
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: happen the next season? Will it, you know, will Teresa just,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: will it be the Teresa show or will it be
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: the Melissa show? Or why not go another season with
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: them not talking? Who the hell knows? Maybe something good
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: or bad will happen in their lives that bring them together.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be good. But I thought that was, pretty interesting.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: And then of course, uh, Coachella is again this weekend.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: We got stage coach coming up. I'm definitely going to
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: stage coach. Um, so let me know if you are too,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: cause that could be fun to hang out. I'm very
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: excited to go do that. And then of course I
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: will be in Scottsdale with Brandy and Julie, Denver with
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Julie all in May. Everything is at HeatherMcDonald.net. Very juicy
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: patrons coming up. You can also listen to that Kim Goldman, um,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Couple hour interview is on there under the Juicy Crimes
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: triple scoop. It's all there, people, at heathermcdolland.net. Thank you
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