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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's thirty eight. All bills can win In here, Wake
- 0:02Speaker 1: puts it down, the kick is on the way, and
- 0:05Speaker 1: d dock and the bill good one? How the hell
- 0:08Speaker 1: that one.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Home?
- 0:11Speaker 1: How one? They were a party one not party way? Incredible?
- 0:17Speaker 2: Why not combat by my bell?
- 0:19Speaker 1: Jacksonville's perfect record on the line right here.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Quick.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Kicking, look excited.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Touchdown Kyle Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable. They puttied william who's
- 0:54Speaker 2: has to full back and he scores a touchdown. It's
- 0:58Speaker 2: wealthier to face tackle.
- 1:15Speaker 1: What's good? Folks, Family, Friends, loved ones, enemies, friendemies, Wizards,
- 1:19Speaker 1: which is Muggles, mud bloods, people of Middle Earth. To
- 1:21Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving edition of Disguise Coverage. The only podcast that
- 1:26Speaker 1: gives you an equal amount of blueberries in each muffin,
- 1:28Speaker 1: presented by the best Pizza in Buffalo, New York, and
- 1:30Speaker 1: that is One by Pizza. Find me online menu in
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- 1:59Speaker 1: Happy things Giving to all of you folks tuning in,
- 2:01Speaker 1: whether you're watching live now, whether you're watching on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
- 2:05Speaker 1: whatever have you. It is Thanksgiving week, a bit of
- 2:08Speaker 1: a holiday theme in this episode tonight off of the
- 2:11Speaker 1: regularly scheduled matchup episode that we do in season. But
- 2:16Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to all of you folks. Hope you are
- 2:18Speaker 1: enjoying the week, if you observe the holiday and you're
- 2:20Speaker 1: ready to cram in some football and some food and
- 2:23Speaker 1: all of that good stuff. Thank you for tuning in again,
- 2:27Speaker 1: whether you're watching live, watching later, listening, podcasting, gaps, platforms,
- 2:30Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff in this episode. Pretty straightforward.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I think this is again. I thought it was a
- 2:36Speaker 1: fun idea. I hope to kind of tie in the
- 2:38Speaker 1: holiday and tye in really kind of how this Bill
- 2:42Speaker 1: season has gone. Them sitting at nine and two coming
- 2:46Speaker 1: out of the bye week, looking to course correct and
- 2:49Speaker 1: kind of batting down the hatches for the regular season
- 2:51Speaker 1: stretch and then push into the playoffs. I really thought
- 2:55Speaker 1: there was a variety of outcomes that this team could have.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I thought, of all things went well, I could see
- 3:00Speaker 1: them being like a three or four loss team. I thought,
- 3:02Speaker 1: of things didn't go so well, it'd be like six
- 3:06Speaker 1: or seven losses. If things really went off the rails,
- 3:08Speaker 1: maybe like eight or nine losses. But I thought somewhere
- 3:10Speaker 1: between three to four losses all the way up to
- 3:13Speaker 1: like six or seven. And you know, the injuries that
- 3:17Speaker 1: this team has fought through the schedule that they've had,
- 3:20Speaker 1: and what they've overcome, the new players coming in, new
- 3:24Speaker 1: full time coordinators on each side, new position coaches on
- 3:26Speaker 1: the entirety of the defensive side of the ball, all
- 3:29Speaker 1: of the things that they've kind of been able to
- 3:33Speaker 1: mitigate and piece together and put all into one to
- 3:36Speaker 1: be nine and two with the spot of the season.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I really hope I'm not jinxing them by saying everything
- 3:39Speaker 1: I'm about to say. And I thought, given all of that,
- 3:42Speaker 1: and given the potential of where they could be right
- 3:44Speaker 1: now instead of being nine and two, all within this
- 3:48Speaker 1: I haven't I've never said rebuild, but all within this
- 3:50Speaker 1: kind of revamp type of year. This wasn't a full teardown.
- 3:54Speaker 1: This wasn't a full rebuild or reset, but it was
- 3:57Speaker 1: a bit of a revamp, changing and tweaking some body
- 4:00Speaker 1: types and some philosophical and some identity pieces on both
- 4:04Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Again, the new coaches, players, all
- 4:06Speaker 1: of that stuff moving in that vein and in that direction.
- 4:10Speaker 1: I think there was a realistic shot where you're sitting
- 4:12Speaker 1: here eleven games in and you're not nine to two.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Maybe you're six and five, maybe you're seven and four,
- 4:17Speaker 1: but I think things have gone relatively well. And I
- 4:19Speaker 1: thought within that and within the Thanksgiving mood and theme
- 4:23Speaker 1: of this week, I wanted to go through and kind
- 4:26Speaker 1: of go with what I'm thankful for with this Buffalo
- 4:28Speaker 1: Bills team, player wise, position wise, coaching pieces, structural elements.
- 4:32Speaker 1: We're gonna get through a bunch of it. And for
- 4:33Speaker 1: those of you joining me live, I'd love to hear
- 4:36Speaker 1: your answers as well. I want to make this as
- 4:37Speaker 1: interactive as possible in the holiday episode. So if you've
- 4:41Speaker 1: got things that you're thankful for in this team, whether
- 4:42Speaker 1: it's a certain player, whether it's a position group, whether
- 4:45Speaker 1: it's a certain moment in a certain game, anything and
- 4:48Speaker 1: everything is available to be spoken about on this show.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Put it up into the chat. I will bring them
- 4:53Speaker 1: up as we go through. If you are not watching live,
- 4:56Speaker 1: feel free to put your answers into the YouTube comments.
- 4:58Speaker 1: If you're listening on one of the podcas casting apps
- 5:00Speaker 1: or platforms, there is you can comment actually in like
- 5:04Speaker 1: the review section if you want, or if you want
- 5:07Speaker 1: to get at me on Twitter, get at me on
- 5:08Speaker 1: Blue Sky, whatever have you. Feel free to put kind
- 5:11Speaker 1: of whatever comments you want into there in terms of
- 5:14Speaker 1: what you're thankful for. Yeah, and I think this would
- 5:16Speaker 1: be a pretty fun episode. I'm kind of excited for.
- 5:18Speaker 1: We'll get through. I'm gonna go through mine. I've got five,
- 5:22Speaker 1: but they kind of are overarching a little bit. I
- 5:24Speaker 1: tried to combine as many into broader terms and topics
- 5:27Speaker 1: while getting into the details with bullet points rather than
- 5:30Speaker 1: listening out like fifteen niche details or try to combine
- 5:34Speaker 1: things as much as humanly possible in order to kind
- 5:36Speaker 1: of streamline things here. If you are enjoying this episode,
- 5:39Speaker 1: or if you have enjoyed previous episodes, please drop a
- 5:41Speaker 1: light on this video so we start to go forward here.
- 5:44Speaker 1: I'm want to grab some comments already. Joe was the
- 5:46Speaker 1: first one in here, and Joe says things, I'm thankful
- 5:48Speaker 1: for the bills, cheesecake, play action, and the cheese, the
- 5:52Speaker 1: sauce ratio, the cheese, the sauce ratio of course a
- 5:54Speaker 1: reference to the sponsor of the show. Onepie Pizza, the
- 5:57Speaker 1: best pizza in Buffalo, New York. Homemade blue cheese, great cheese,
- 6:00Speaker 1: of sauce ratio on the pie cup, and char pepperoni.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Just really tremendous stuff. Also in the middle of their
- 6:06Speaker 1: Toys for Tots Drive, I will be oh pulling up
- 6:08Speaker 1: a graphic for that later with the incentives and prizes
- 6:11Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Appreciate Joe being here
- 6:13Speaker 1: and for showing some love in the inside Joke world
- 6:16Speaker 1: for the sponsor, Kmorey say, I'm thankful for the equal
- 6:21Speaker 1: number of blueberries, and each muffin is a person of
- 6:23Speaker 1: Middle Earth. Well done. I appreciate you referencing the intro.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I also appreciate love for the intro. I've gotten a cup.
- 6:28Speaker 1: I think most people are cool with it. I've got
- 6:30Speaker 1: some really negative and hateful comments towards the intro, so
- 6:33Speaker 1: it's nice to kind of see where people are at
- 6:35Speaker 1: our j saying happy Thanksgiving everyone. It would be amazing
- 6:38Speaker 1: if the Bills could clinch the division on Sunday night.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Oh I am up for I'm always torn a little
- 6:43Speaker 1: I'm always up for clinching as early as possible so
- 6:46Speaker 1: you can rest guys and take your foot off the
- 6:49Speaker 1: gas where possible. But I also like the idea of
- 6:53Speaker 1: kind of just staying sharp and having to play every
- 6:55Speaker 1: week as if it's your last going forward. So I'm
- 6:58Speaker 1: always torn a little bit, but you know, I'm a
- 7:01Speaker 1: high four kind of guy. Take what you can get.
- 7:02Speaker 1: If they could clinch as early as possible, I would
- 7:04Speaker 1: love that. Charles coming in and saying thankful for Chromer,
- 7:07Speaker 1: Brady and Babbage very fair. Ooh love this coming from
- 7:11Speaker 1: Jonahs saying one pie is goaded. They absolutely are. Oh
- 7:14Speaker 1: question here from aid and saying, how worried are you
- 7:16Speaker 1: about a forty nine ers trap game? Sure they are hurt,
- 7:19Speaker 1: but I think they should not be overlooked. I completely agree.
- 7:22Speaker 1: We'll see how the injuries progress going forward. I'm going
- 7:25Speaker 1: to talk about a couple pieces tonight potentially as we
- 7:27Speaker 1: go forward, but I still don't think you can overlook them.
- 7:30Speaker 1: There are quality players on both sides of the ball
- 7:33Speaker 1: For the Niners. I know they have underachieved this year,
- 7:35Speaker 1: and the injuries, like you mentioned, aiden have been a
- 7:37Speaker 1: significant significant part of that. They haven't been as sharp
- 7:40Speaker 1: schematically in a lot of areas. Again, I think that's
- 7:43Speaker 1: tied to the injuries, especially upfront on the defensive line,
- 7:47Speaker 1: and you know, the changes from last year who they
- 7:50Speaker 1: are this year being banged up in the secondary different
- 7:53Speaker 1: points then again offensively, and how that kind of ties
- 7:56Speaker 1: in from a game script perspective. But yeah, I'm not
- 7:58Speaker 1: overlooking the forty nine ers in any way, shape or form. Obviously.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I don't think it's as tough of a matchup as
- 8:04Speaker 1: I did when the schedule first came out. I was
- 8:06Speaker 1: looking at this game as kind of the hardest game
- 8:12Speaker 1: on the schedule really just from a you know, previous
- 8:14Speaker 1: year going into this one. I you know, depending on
- 8:17Speaker 1: how you look at Kansas City and San Francisco again
- 8:20Speaker 1: coming into the season, but the Bills that had success
- 8:22Speaker 1: against Kansas City, I really thought the Niners were a
- 8:24Speaker 1: real strong squad on both sides of the ball. Potentially
- 8:28Speaker 1: again defensively they changed coming into the season. And then
- 8:31Speaker 1: I think it's like the after the schedule came out.
- 8:33Speaker 1: We saw the changes they went through defensively, and things
- 8:36Speaker 1: haven't really worked out for them on that side of
- 8:38Speaker 1: the ball compared to the bar that I think is
- 8:39Speaker 1: normally set for them. Then the injuries on offense and all,
- 8:42Speaker 1: everything's kind of snowballed. I'm not overlooking them. I still
- 8:45Speaker 1: think their team that can get you. Obviously, they're just
- 8:47Speaker 1: not as strong as kind of the anticipation for them
- 8:50Speaker 1: was earlier in this season. Daniels saying I think the
- 8:55Speaker 1: Bills were six and five at this point last year
- 8:57Speaker 1: says go Bills, Happy Thanksgiving Bills fans like that from Daniel. Yeah,
- 9:00Speaker 1: I think there were six and five, six and six,
- 9:02Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. I remember them being six and
- 9:04Speaker 1: six and then going on the wind streak coming out
- 9:07Speaker 1: of the by, which is very nice. Ralph saying thank
- 9:11Speaker 1: you for a great dead cap season. Hey, if you
- 9:13Speaker 1: have a bunch of dead cap and a revamp and
- 9:15Speaker 1: be nine and two and being, you know, the only
- 9:18Speaker 1: team to knock off the Chiefs so far this year,
- 9:20Speaker 1: I think that's not bad. Aaron saying thankful for the
- 9:22Speaker 1: development of young talent that was either behind former starters
- 9:26Speaker 1: or rookie rookies coming in. That's going to be happening
- 9:29Speaker 1: in this episode. I'm going to speak on that. Aiden
- 9:31Speaker 1: I'm thankful for any equal want of blueberries and each muffin.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Absolutely well done, well done, Kya Moury says and is
- 9:37Speaker 1: thankful for how they defend Mesh on fourth down. I
- 9:40Speaker 1: love the references to previous episodes and previous things that
- 9:44Speaker 1: are that have happened, So I appreciate I appreciate you
- 9:47Speaker 1: being here, Kaya Moury, and for obviously watching last week.
- 9:51Speaker 1: That comment from Kayamory is a reference to one of
- 9:56Speaker 1: the segments I did with Joe Marino last week when
- 9:58Speaker 1: he was on the show. In terms of like favorite
- 10:01Speaker 1: moments or plays from the year, My answer, along with Joe,
- 10:04Speaker 1: was the Josh Allen run the scramble for the touchdown
- 10:07Speaker 1: against Kansas City last week. But you know, just to
- 10:10Speaker 1: kind of give a differing thought, you know, a little
- 10:12Speaker 1: niche detail that I loved was, yeah, how they've been
- 10:14Speaker 1: passing off Mesh when in cover one, no pun intended
- 10:17Speaker 1: coverage there, and yet Joe kind of let me have
- 10:20Speaker 1: it for being super detailed niche with that. But yeah,
- 10:22Speaker 1: very very funny. Well done, Kate morey. I like that,
- 10:24Speaker 1: thank you, Joe saying, I think I'll start with Shakir,
- 10:27Speaker 1: thankful for him as both a safety blanket for Josh,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but for also being a staple in an offense that
- 10:33Speaker 1: has an identity of generating Yah. Yes, the bills are
- 10:36Speaker 1: six in yards after catches, Joe indicates there Sequier has
- 10:39Speaker 1: been a significant part of that. I'm gonna talk about
- 10:40Speaker 1: Shaquir a little bit throughout this episode, but yeah, just
- 10:44Speaker 1: seeing what he's seeing what he's become in terms of
- 10:48Speaker 1: being an easy button. You know, Joe uses the Fray
- 10:51Speaker 1: safety blanket there, whether it's easy button, safety blanket, go
- 10:54Speaker 1: to guy. He really just has had such a strong
- 10:57Speaker 1: impact on this offense. And in a year where kin
- 11:01Speaker 1: Kaid has been banged up and hasn't produced at the
- 11:03Speaker 1: level you wanted. Curtis Samuel got banged up, Keyon Coleman.
- 11:06Speaker 1: You're wanting him to develop and refine and add some
- 11:09Speaker 1: polish to his game in a multitude of ways. And
- 11:11Speaker 1: then you bring in Amari Cooper. He's got to get
- 11:13Speaker 1: adjusted to the playbook. He gets banged up. You know,
- 11:16Speaker 1: Khalioshakir really has kind of been that stabilizing force on
- 11:20Speaker 1: the offense along with the run game, but from a
- 11:21Speaker 1: passing perspective, it's been Khalils Shakir and when you consider
- 11:24Speaker 1: how low his average depth of target and average depth
- 11:26Speaker 1: of catch are. Again, I'm going to go into some
- 11:28Speaker 1: of these numbers because he's one of my pieces in
- 11:30Speaker 1: this episode that I'm thankful for. He's really made a
- 11:33Speaker 1: lot on his own, and Alan's been able to find
- 11:36Speaker 1: him early and often Brady schemed him up, but so
- 11:38Speaker 1: much of it is just Khalis Shakir doing Khalis Shakir
- 11:41Speaker 1: things and make him place to the ball. And yeah,
- 11:43Speaker 1: he's been a significant part of why the Bills are
- 11:45Speaker 1: finally kind of generating some yards after catch and having
- 11:48Speaker 1: more easy buttons and kind of ease in terms of
- 11:51Speaker 1: being streamlined and flow for Josh Allen in this offense
- 11:54Speaker 1: as a whole. Charles saying equal blueberries in each muffin,
- 11:59Speaker 1: I was going considered reference absolutely that is from Casino.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Casino is my favorite mob movie. It's one of my
- 12:03Speaker 1: top five favorite movies of all time. Yes, equal blueberries
- 12:06Speaker 1: and each muffin is one thousand percent of Casino Reference. Oh,
- 12:08Speaker 1: very nice. Jordan Sane, thankful for Cover one you guys
- 12:11Speaker 1: are amazing. Thank you, Jordan. That's awesome, Aiden saying, more importantly,
- 12:17Speaker 1: have you tried the cinnamon toast crunch waffle variation? No,
- 12:20Speaker 1: I have not. That sounds delicious. I didn't realize that
- 12:24Speaker 1: was a thing. Oh, Cinnamonto's crunches doing a waffle variation.
- 12:27Speaker 1: I gotta get on this. I have been a Cinnamonto's
- 12:29Speaker 1: crunch forever. I mean I'm on a honey nut cherios kick,
- 12:32Speaker 1: which I never was before, and I'm been riding that hard.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Jason saying, we need to invent a cover one beanie
- 12:39Speaker 1: for Aunt. I would take that. Yeah. I pretty much
- 12:41Speaker 1: just rock Carhart beanies all the time and then I
- 12:43Speaker 1: turn them now on purpose, but I was just kind
- 12:45Speaker 1: of one of my beanies the logo to the side.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I would take a cover one beanie absolutely, Jason saying, also,
- 12:52Speaker 1: I'm expecting big things from the tree this year. Nice
- 12:56Speaker 1: Thanksgiving theme right now. The regular season starts Friday, So yes,
- 12:59Speaker 1: I had the fall thereame tree one. I want to
- 13:02Speaker 1: give another shout out to the Halloween tree for October.
- 13:05Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite. You know, the way
- 13:08Speaker 1: it filled out, the way it looked, the garland, the aesthetic,
- 13:10Speaker 1: everything came out really nice. Then we had a bit
- 13:12Speaker 1: of a fall theme just in general with the garland,
- 13:15Speaker 1: and then we changed it today. Actually I'll pull down
- 13:18Speaker 1: the you know, the brand there, kind of changed it
- 13:22Speaker 1: a little bit, added a different garland, the wife did it.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Changed some things in the background with some more fall themes,
- 13:27Speaker 1: some Thanksgiving themes. So yeah, I think it's a good
- 13:30Speaker 1: look right now. I appreciate you recognizing that. Jason, ninety
- 13:33Speaker 1: four point two percent of the reason why I do
- 13:34Speaker 1: this show so I can show the tree on the
- 13:37Speaker 1: background in the background. So yeah, absolutely absolutely. Jonah saying,
- 13:42Speaker 1: please no Purty Bosa or Williams this Sunday. Let's clinch
- 13:45Speaker 1: the AFC East boys. I think it's close. Aiden saying,
- 13:51Speaker 1: did you ever talk with the Buffalo plus guys? Would
- 13:53Speaker 1: you ever do a collab with them? I think they
- 13:54Speaker 1: have an interesting perspective being media on the field. Yeah.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I always think there's you know, interesting perspective with anybody
- 14:02Speaker 1: who's like a beat reporter and has that media or
- 14:04Speaker 1: on field perspective. I'm always open, you know, to different opportunities.
- 14:08Speaker 1: I have not done anything with them. I've talked to
- 14:10Speaker 1: Feats every once in a while, but I haven't never
- 14:13Speaker 1: done anything with them officially. Oh this is awesome, Jason
- 14:18Speaker 1: saying thank you for the cover went film breakdowns. Now
- 14:20Speaker 1: nothing bothers me on the internet because I know the
- 14:22Speaker 1: truth and I don't need to care about false narratives.
- 14:24Speaker 1: I have a new sense of zen as a fan.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I like that. I like that a lot. That's awesome,
- 14:29Speaker 1: Aiden saying honey nut cheerials with bananas. Yeah, I'll put
- 14:32Speaker 1: some bananas and the honey nut ceials. I also like
- 14:34Speaker 1: special k with the strawberries. Of course, I can't just
- 14:37Speaker 1: have plain. I'll eat honey ut ceials by themselves, even
- 14:39Speaker 1: sometimes not even in the milk. I just think they're
- 14:41Speaker 1: good to like snack on. But yeah, honey nut cheerios
- 14:43Speaker 1: by themselves or obviously with milk or adding some bananas
- 14:47Speaker 1: or some fruit in there. All about that. Charles saying,
- 14:49Speaker 1: how we cook in the turkey smoked oven or deep fried?
- 14:52Speaker 1: Doing the oven turkey I've done. I've never done a
- 14:57Speaker 1: smoke turkey, done the deep fried. I haven't done it.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Family has done it, and it was good. I just
- 15:03Speaker 1: don't think it was worth the effort for everyone to
- 15:05Speaker 1: do the deep fried and you know, I've got you know,
- 15:09Speaker 1: my wife and the other older relatives in my family
- 15:13Speaker 1: who just cook a mean turkey in the oven. And
- 15:16Speaker 1: so that's what we're rocking with again this year. In saying,
- 15:19Speaker 1: what about a Josh leaping the tree ornament? I could
- 15:21Speaker 1: add more ornaments to the tree. All I ever do
- 15:23Speaker 1: is add the little topper. There's one on there right
- 15:25Speaker 1: now that says we interrupt this marriage to bring you football.
- 15:29Speaker 1: You just can't really see it. And then I'll do
- 15:30Speaker 1: like obviously, like a Christmas type of deal. But yeah,
- 15:33Speaker 1: I've never done an ornaments other than that. Consider that
- 15:35Speaker 1: Joe's saying, since Cerea was brought up, top five cereals
- 15:38Speaker 1: that I'm thankful for, honey nut cheerios, Reese's Puffs, cinnamon
- 15:41Speaker 1: toast crunch, frosted cheerios, French toast crunch. That's a quality list.
- 15:48Speaker 1: I've never had Reese's Puffs, I've never done frosted cheerios,
- 15:51Speaker 1: and I've never done French toast crunch. I love honey
- 15:54Speaker 1: nut cheerios, i love cinnamon toast crunch. I'm also a
- 15:56Speaker 1: big Frosted Flakes guy. But yeah, I've just been this
- 16:00Speaker 1: honey out cheals kick. I don't know why. They're just
- 16:01Speaker 1: like really good. They're simple, They're good. Yeah yeah yeah.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Oh Aiden likes your list. Joe, Yeah, Steve says, a
- 16:09Speaker 1: spatch cock and smoke the turkey. You will never eat
- 16:12Speaker 1: it any other way. I might have to bring this up.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I think it's too late to settle into that this year.
- 16:16Speaker 1: I might bring it up for next year. Yeah, I've
- 16:19Speaker 1: never had Reese's pop Cereal. I'm a big Reese's guy,
- 16:21Speaker 1: like the mini cups, not the big cups. I think
- 16:23Speaker 1: the peanut butter and chocolate ratio is better than the minis.
- 16:26Speaker 1: But yeah, uh kay. Morris had always been a corn
- 16:30Speaker 1: brand square guy. Very nice, very nice. Oh Charles saying
- 16:35Speaker 1: smoke turkey is the way to go. We do two,
- 16:36Speaker 1: one smoke and one in the oven. I like that,
- 16:38Speaker 1: actually kind of proposed that. I like where this is gone.
- 16:40Speaker 1: It's just pure Thanksgiving talk and Cereal talk at this point,
- 16:43Speaker 1: which is what everyone tuned in for. But I'm okay
- 16:45Speaker 1: with it. I like Jason saying I'm thankful for Aunt's
- 16:47Speaker 1: wife and the most respectful way possible. So cool to
- 16:50Speaker 1: have a partner who puts effort in the things that
- 16:53Speaker 1: matter to you. Thanks Bro, and just wore a wife.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, she's awesome. I appreciate the shout out.
- 16:58Speaker 1: She'll be pumped to see it. Joe saying Reese's puffs
- 17:02Speaker 1: are ten out of ten. Cannot recommend them enough. Actual,
- 17:05Speaker 1: I'm apparently gonna have to try Recis puffs and then
- 17:07Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to try a smoke turkey. I like
- 17:08Speaker 1: the idea, the smoke turkey. This is fun. This is fun.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I like this. I'm gonna throw up the banner for
- 17:15Speaker 1: the first Bills related topic that I am thankful for.
- 17:18Speaker 1: But folks, feel free whatever you're thankful for, Bills related,
- 17:20Speaker 1: serial things, anything else. This is one episode. Again. I
- 17:25Speaker 1: know what we normally do in season here with the
- 17:27Speaker 1: matchups and you know, breaking down the scheme structure, Xis
- 17:31Speaker 1: and knows all that stuff of what we'll decide who
- 17:33Speaker 1: wins each Bill's game. But I thought given the holiday,
- 17:35Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of a lighter mood atmosphere.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Plus I know a lot of people are traveling and
- 17:38Speaker 1: doing family stuff this week, so who's able to tune in?
- 17:41Speaker 1: Who's not to be a fun a little bit more
- 17:43Speaker 1: of a laid back type episode. So again, questions, thoughts, comments, concerns,
- 17:46Speaker 1: anything you got thrown up into the chat the first piece.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna go through in terms of being thanking
- 17:53Speaker 1: for with related to this Bills team is is is
- 17:56Speaker 1: Yike's already sixteen minutes in. I've had two flubs already
- 17:59Speaker 1: valling apart. Bill offensive line coach Aaron Kromer. I talked
- 18:03Speaker 1: about it a bit in the offseason on this show,
- 18:06Speaker 1: on other shows that I appeared on. I felt like
- 18:10Speaker 1: last year the offensive line finally got to a spot
- 18:13Speaker 1: where they were good. They were competent, took good in
- 18:18Speaker 1: pass pro, and then we saw what they could be
- 18:20Speaker 1: on the ground, their ability to have success on the
- 18:23Speaker 1: ground from a non Josh Allen perspective, the diversity in
- 18:28Speaker 1: the run game that they had. I was really happy
- 18:31Speaker 1: with the offensive line and what it was last year.
- 18:32Speaker 1: And then you look at the depth. You know, having
- 18:33Speaker 1: Ryan Bates is kind of a super sub with what
- 18:35Speaker 1: he can do. Having David Edwards is a sixth offensive lineman,
- 18:39Speaker 1: and then that changed this offseason. Baits goes by by,
- 18:41Speaker 1: Mitch Morris goes by by. You take Connor McGovern, you
- 18:44Speaker 1: move from left guard to center, David Edwards becomes your
- 18:46Speaker 1: starter at left guard, and I thought Edwards would do
- 18:48Speaker 1: well and he has, I think for the most part.
- 18:50Speaker 1: You know, he was a starter on that Rams team
- 18:52Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl. He is an Aaron Cromer disciple.
- 18:54Speaker 1: He knows what Chromer expects and what Chromer is looking for.
- 18:57Speaker 1: And he was again on the team last year and
- 18:58Speaker 1: in the system and did well. And mcgovernin it wasn't
- 19:01Speaker 1: the craziest thing to move him from left guard to center.
- 19:03Speaker 1: You know, we talked on the show and in the
- 19:05Speaker 1: film room about how he has traits and a skill
- 19:07Speaker 1: set that would work well at center, and that move
- 19:09Speaker 1: and the potential positives and pros that it could offer
- 19:12Speaker 1: this Bill's offensive line versus what Mitch Moore brought, even
- 19:15Speaker 1: though Morse was fantastic here. But I think you had
- 19:18Speaker 1: the potential for a bit of a drop off in
- 19:21Speaker 1: this offensive line this year kind of seeing you know,
- 19:24Speaker 1: just the new moving parts, the new pieces and kind
- 19:26Speaker 1: of how it all went together. But I think it's
- 19:29Speaker 1: been a seamless transition this year. Their top ten in
- 19:31Speaker 1: past pro efficiency. They're around or in the top ten
- 19:35Speaker 1: for most run game metrics accounting for Josh Allen and
- 19:38Speaker 1: not accounting for Josh Allen, if you're just looking at
- 19:40Speaker 1: running back carries and kind of seeing what they can
- 19:42Speaker 1: do in terms of EPA, per rush and DVOA and
- 19:45Speaker 1: all of these aspects. And then you combine that again
- 19:47Speaker 1: with being a solid group in terms of pass protection,
- 19:50Speaker 1: and you got to tie that to Aaron Kromer. And
- 19:52Speaker 1: I also think by extension, you see the tight ends.
- 19:55Speaker 1: You see guys like Dawson Knox who are exhibiting the
- 19:58Speaker 1: hand usage tech tchniques that he teaches to his offensive lineman.
- 20:02Speaker 1: So you're seeing that translate to Knox and some of
- 20:05Speaker 1: the other tight ends. It kind of like how you
- 20:07Speaker 1: saw it translate to Cooper Cup and Robert Woods when
- 20:10Speaker 1: Cromer was in LA with how they would block, especially
- 20:12Speaker 1: when they were attached to the line of scrimmage. And
- 20:14Speaker 1: then you look at the development pieces Spencer Brown, how
- 20:17Speaker 1: real how he's progressed technically, and you know his snatch
- 20:20Speaker 1: trap mimicking and mirroring Deon Dawkins is more often than
- 20:24Speaker 1: not the development and the trajectory that he's on. You
- 20:27Speaker 1: look at again and how seamless the move was for
- 20:29Speaker 1: Connor McGovern David Edwards Andersen's development into a real quality
- 20:34Speaker 1: six offensive lineman and how he's being able to be
- 20:36Speaker 1: used Ocyrus Torrens being able to kind of blend being
- 20:40Speaker 1: that physical, bruising type of maler but still being able
- 20:43Speaker 1: to move well enough and exhibit technique to the point
- 20:46Speaker 1: where he's not just vulnerable in a turnstile versus speed
- 20:49Speaker 1: or speed to power or agility on the inside. You
- 20:52Speaker 1: look at that grouping again this and also no jinks.
- 20:57Speaker 1: They've been very lucky that they've been healthy again and
- 21:00Speaker 1: for the majority of this year, like they were last year,
- 21:03Speaker 1: you had the same starting five for the entirety of
- 21:04Speaker 1: the year. We've had that this year again for the
- 21:07Speaker 1: Buffalo bill some you know, Spencer Brown out for the
- 21:10Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs game obviously, but you know, even Ryan
- 21:12Speaker 1: Vandermark going in and not being this huge vulnerability to
- 21:17Speaker 1: the point where you're noticing him on every rep and
- 21:19Speaker 1: on every snap. I think he had some more struggles
- 21:23Speaker 1: than were documented by most folks, and then necessarily the
- 21:27Speaker 1: metrics and numbers indicate I think he only if I
- 21:29Speaker 1: remember it correctly, I think he only registered like two
- 21:31Speaker 1: pressures of two QB hits. He had the second best
- 21:34Speaker 1: pass blocking efficiency of the starting five offensive linemen in
- 21:37Speaker 1: that game against the Chiefs. So I don't think he
- 21:39Speaker 1: played bad. I think he wasn't as amazing as kind
- 21:42Speaker 1: of people made it out to be. But the fact
- 21:43Speaker 1: that he was able to go in there and it
- 21:45Speaker 1: wasn't just like, oh man, Carloff, this has given him work.
- 21:47Speaker 1: Oh Man, they're lining up Chris Jones on him on
- 21:49Speaker 1: passing down. She's just going after him, or even you know,
- 21:53Speaker 1: Dana and ifj went after him, if they took Shanel
- 21:55Speaker 1: and just there wasn't anything crazy where you were like,
- 21:58Speaker 1: oh man, Spencer Brown is out, Ian Vandermark's in there
- 22:00Speaker 1: and I'm noticing it on every play because there's a
- 22:03Speaker 1: hole at right tackle, and just this offensive line has
- 22:06Speaker 1: continued to be a stabilizing piece for this team in
- 22:12Speaker 1: both the past game in terms of their pass protection.
- 22:15Speaker 1: I know they've gotten gamed up a bit at times,
- 22:17Speaker 1: especially against Baltimore, but what they've been in terms of
- 22:19Speaker 1: pass protection and what they've been on the ground game
- 22:21Speaker 1: has been tremendously important. And again, I think you have
- 22:24Speaker 1: to tie that into Aaron Cromer, especially when you start
- 22:25Speaker 1: to see his offensive line techniques and teachings starting to
- 22:30Speaker 1: bleed into other position groups, like the tight ends, which
- 22:33Speaker 1: mattered a lot in this offense with how much the
- 22:35Speaker 1: Bills go with those heavier personnel formations in attaching tight
- 22:39Speaker 1: ends to the line of scrimmage and increasing that surface
- 22:41Speaker 1: area to be able to get to more in the
- 22:42Speaker 1: run game. It's been a great piece. And again, Chromer
- 22:46Speaker 1: I think is one of the best in the business.
- 22:47Speaker 1: He doesn't get the love or the shy and the
- 22:49Speaker 1: Callahan gets, or stout Land gets, or even Andy Hack
- 22:52Speaker 1: up there in Kansas City. But man, just the job
- 22:55Speaker 1: that this Bill's group has done in terms of technique, diversity, versatility,
- 23:01Speaker 1: pass pro run game stuff, and just how they've solidified
- 23:05Speaker 1: again for the second year in a row and really
- 23:06Speaker 1: just improved year after year. It's been really nice to see.
- 23:09Speaker 1: And again I think you gotta tiper cap to the
- 23:11Speaker 1: players obviously, but Aaron Kromer is a huge piece of that.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I'm very thankful for him. Loved the signing when they
- 23:15Speaker 1: brought him in. Again, one of the best in the business,
- 23:17Speaker 1: just doesn't get the shine that others do. So yeah,
- 23:20Speaker 1: very thankful for him. Like this comment here from Jason
- 23:22Speaker 1: I was thinking about this earlier today. Jason says, I
- 23:24Speaker 1: think healthy is also technique. They aren't in bad body
- 23:27Speaker 1: positions and other dudes aren't failing their assignment and causing
- 23:31Speaker 1: D lineman to fall into their fellow offensive lineman, saying,
- 23:35Speaker 1: with the astors causing D linean, I knew CHI meant
- 23:37Speaker 1: at first. I thought I read it as coughing, and
- 23:38Speaker 1: I was like, no, he's got to be causing I.
- 23:39Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I thought of that earlier,
- 23:41Speaker 1: like not necessarily in the same vein, but the idea
- 23:44Speaker 1: of with how healthy they've been for the second year
- 23:47Speaker 1: in a row at a position that does not stay
- 23:49Speaker 1: healthy and again major no jinks here, You folks know
- 23:52Speaker 1: how superstitious I am. But with how healthy they've been
- 23:54Speaker 1: for the second year in a row at offensive line,
- 23:57Speaker 1: a position that it's just so easy to get bag up,
- 24:00Speaker 1: to get rolled up on lower body, upper body, it's
- 24:03Speaker 1: so easy. I was thinking earlier today when I was
- 24:06Speaker 1: putting this episode together or putting the finishing touches on it,
- 24:08Speaker 1: I should say I was kind of thinking to myself
- 24:10Speaker 1: of like, I wonder if there's something to it from
- 24:12Speaker 1: a technique standpoint, or just from a systemic or schematic
- 24:16Speaker 1: standpoint or structurally like how they operate that lends itself
- 24:21Speaker 1: to kind of naturally keeping them healthier and not suffering injuries,
- 24:24Speaker 1: because it's just unreal for two years in a row
- 24:27Speaker 1: at this point. Again, no jinks to not have any
- 24:30Speaker 1: injuries at that spot or any significant Once again, Brown
- 24:32Speaker 1: missed the KC game, but just you didn't really feel
- 24:36Speaker 1: it too much, which was one a good thing, but
- 24:37Speaker 1: two just yeah, like you're not missing all of so
- 24:43Speaker 1: and so it has been out for four games, or
- 24:44Speaker 1: they haven't had the whole right side of the line
- 24:46Speaker 1: for this many games, or they had to move these
- 24:47Speaker 1: people around because these two guys got hurt or one guy.
- 24:50Speaker 1: It's just, yeah, it's been really impressive to see how
- 24:53Speaker 1: they've been continuously healthy. And Jason saying, look is obviously
- 24:57Speaker 1: the main thing, but sometimes injury happens due to porplate.
- 24:59Speaker 1: No completely agree. If you get out leveraged, or if
- 25:01Speaker 1: your hands are in the wrong position or your feet
- 25:03Speaker 1: aren't in the right position and you get caught not
- 25:05Speaker 1: even somebody running into you, but if you get torqued
- 25:08Speaker 1: the wrong way or you have to you're out of
- 25:10Speaker 1: position to the point that you have to overcompensate with
- 25:13Speaker 1: another body part, and you're putting stress on ligaments and
- 25:17Speaker 1: tendons and muscles and joints to course correct for being
- 25:22Speaker 1: out of position like you are. I think that's actually
- 25:25Speaker 1: a very plausible thing, and not just saying it. So
- 25:27Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like that? What else?
- 25:30Speaker 1: What else? Let's go back and see some of another
- 25:35Speaker 1: one from Jason on the O line, saying, all the
- 25:37Speaker 1: questions we had about the changes to olne chromers clearly
- 25:39Speaker 1: listened to by the organization. Also big props last week
- 25:42Speaker 1: doing without Brown. The group has bought in. I would agree.
- 25:45Speaker 1: I would agree with that Joe Man saying Torrence gets
- 25:48Speaker 1: better and better. Yeah, a couple of really good reps
- 25:50Speaker 1: against Chris Jones. Jones got him a couple of times,
- 25:52Speaker 1: but he held his own the flexibility, I think, being
- 25:55Speaker 1: able to maneuver better with his size, being able to
- 26:00Speaker 1: take away Jones's momentum by changing his height and the
- 26:03Speaker 1: depth of his sets, and being able to kind of
- 26:07Speaker 1: stalemate him and take away his power while also sustaining
- 26:11Speaker 1: his Really nice to see, really nice to see from
- 26:13Speaker 1: Torrance in spurts and again that right side of the line.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Torrents and Brown are such a menacing duo when it
- 26:20Speaker 1: comes to the run game on zone or on duo
- 26:23Speaker 1: literally with double teams, which is how they can displace
- 26:26Speaker 1: guys on that right side. It really is beautiful. What
- 26:31Speaker 1: was Charles saying, I can't forget the Bills had the
- 26:32Speaker 1: Iron Man a QB. Very thankful for that. Josh Allen
- 26:35Speaker 1: will not be featured in this episode. That's a great
- 26:38Speaker 1: comment there from Charles, just because I think that's too
- 26:40Speaker 1: low hanging of fruit. You know, I'm just gonna leave
- 26:42Speaker 1: Josh Allen as his own things, similar to last week
- 26:43Speaker 1: when Joe and I were talking about, you know, the
- 26:45Speaker 1: MTAM MVP not named Josh Allen. Kind of obviously, I
- 26:49Speaker 1: think that's too low hanging fruit and a given some
- 26:50Speaker 1: kind of just put him outside into its own type
- 26:54Speaker 1: of thing. Just to Tippy Canoe saying we're all thankful
- 26:57Speaker 1: for Bruce Nolan, I think that's fair. I think that's fair,
- 27:00Speaker 1: Aiden saying, uh, snatch trap. Yeah, I don't know if
- 27:03Speaker 1: you're if you know what it is and it's just
- 27:04Speaker 1: funny verbage and you're asking a question. But just in
- 27:06Speaker 1: case people don't, so snatch trap. Deon Dawkins talked about
- 27:09Speaker 1: it on I Think Kay Adams is a show. He
- 27:11Speaker 1: calls it the ice pick. But it's pretty much known
- 27:14Speaker 1: as a snatchtrap across college of football. It's essentially when
- 27:17Speaker 1: it's a move Dawkins does all the time. You're seeing
- 27:19Speaker 1: Spencer Brown doing it more and again. You see it
- 27:21Speaker 1: across football a lot now because college end NFL. It's
- 27:24Speaker 1: essentially when a defender, if we're using Deon Dawkins as
- 27:28Speaker 1: an example, say the edge, you know, or the defensive
- 27:31Speaker 1: end is leaning too much into him. He comes off
- 27:33Speaker 1: the line, he gets that long arm into Dawkins. He
- 27:35Speaker 1: gets that extension when you feel as an offensive lineman,
- 27:39Speaker 1: too much of that momentum and that force and you
- 27:43Speaker 1: know that balance and weight being on that arm or
- 27:46Speaker 1: being on that upper body, they lean into you. And
- 27:49Speaker 1: that's when you'll see Dawkins when he'll snatch them down
- 27:51Speaker 1: at the elbow, chop them at the wrist, chop him
- 27:54Speaker 1: in the forearm, chop it again at the elbow, or
- 27:58Speaker 1: sometimes he'll get his hands kind of buy here and
- 28:00Speaker 1: into the collar and yank them down. Sometimes it gets
- 28:02Speaker 1: flagged for holding, but it's essentially too much momentum, too
- 28:05Speaker 1: much leverage being put into the arms or the upper
- 28:09Speaker 1: body of a defender, and so you snatch that momentum
- 28:13Speaker 1: and that leverage. They kind of fall down and then
- 28:16Speaker 1: you bury them into the ground where you quote unquote
- 28:18Speaker 1: trap them. If you actually search me on Twitter and
- 28:21Speaker 1: just type in like pro ant snatch trap, you'll see
- 28:25Speaker 1: it a ton, or you just type in pro aunt Dawkins,
- 28:27Speaker 1: you'll see it a ton. Yeah. Actually that's a good piece.
- 28:30Speaker 1: It's good piece. What else r J saying. I'm not
- 28:32Speaker 1: a big fan of Edwards, and I think McGovern has
- 28:34Speaker 1: issues with identifying free rushers. But outside of this, the
- 28:37Speaker 1: offensive line has been pretty good. I think it's tough
- 28:39Speaker 1: for you know, with free rushers. Some of that is
- 28:43Speaker 1: on Allen, some of that's on the running back, some
- 28:45Speaker 1: of that is on rules for the offensive line. So
- 28:47Speaker 1: you might see somebody coming through the A gap, for example,
- 28:51Speaker 1: and you're attributing that rusher to Well, McGovern's got to
- 28:54Speaker 1: get on that. But that's not necessarily McGovern's responsibility. There's
- 28:57Speaker 1: a lot when it comes to protections. I'm not saying
- 29:00Speaker 1: you're you're not right, but I think there's a lot
- 29:04Speaker 1: when it comes to who's responsible for this rusher, this
- 29:08Speaker 1: guy the pre snap protections and setting. Allen sets a
- 29:11Speaker 1: lot of the pre snap protections as well, so some
- 29:13Speaker 1: of that's going to be on Allen. It's a bit
- 29:15Speaker 1: muddy when it comes to who's responsible pre m post
- 29:18Speaker 1: snap for a lot of it. I do like Edwards though.
- 29:21Speaker 1: I think he's just solid. I don't think. I don't
- 29:24Speaker 1: think he does anything super sexy or super tremendous, but
- 29:28Speaker 1: I just think he's reliable and he's really cost effective.
- 29:31Speaker 1: He just does his job more often than not. Again,
- 29:34Speaker 1: has some has some rough reps every now and again,
- 29:36Speaker 1: but I think kind of who doesn't. Jordan's saying, what
- 29:42Speaker 1: happened to all those AFL throwback jers is we used
- 29:43Speaker 1: to wear it feels like two or three seasons now
- 29:45Speaker 1: since we won them. I just want the nineties throwbacks
- 29:47Speaker 1: for a couple, you know, weeks out of the year.
- 29:49Speaker 1: We got the creamsicles for the Bucks, we got the
- 29:51Speaker 1: Kelly Greens for the Eagles. Man, I just just I
- 29:54Speaker 1: just want those nineties bills ers. He's Jason saying this
- 29:56Speaker 1: organization has become incredible with developing talent and replacing talent
- 30:00Speaker 1: with drafted talent that has been developed one of the
- 30:02Speaker 1: most rare organizational traits in the NFL. I completely agree, well,
- 30:06Speaker 1: said John sat I'm thankful for the coaching staff's commitment
- 30:09Speaker 1: to player development. Give them a couple of years and
- 30:12Speaker 1: a willing player. Yep, yep, yep, yep yep. Charles Saint,
- 30:16Speaker 1: speaking of Cromer, how about the transition from mostly gap
- 30:18Speaker 1: runs to zone and now one of the best zone
- 30:20Speaker 1: run teams. I'm gonna speak about that next. So that's
- 30:21Speaker 1: actually a tremendous segue. I just want to grab this
- 30:23Speaker 1: com of here from Jason saying searching quote unquote pro
- 30:26Speaker 1: and snatch trap sounds like the kind of search I
- 30:28Speaker 1: would do on a different kind of website. Very fair,
- 30:31Speaker 1: Very fair. So Charles Sains, speaking of Chromer, how about
- 30:33Speaker 1: the transition from mostly gap runs to zone and now
- 30:37Speaker 1: being one of the best zone run teams. That leads
- 30:40Speaker 1: me into the second thing that I am thankful for
- 30:42Speaker 1: with this Buffalo Bill's team, and that is the run
- 30:45Speaker 1: game diversity. So, like you know, Charles mentioned, they were
- 30:49Speaker 1: almost evenly split last year when it came to gap
- 30:52Speaker 1: and zone runs, which is really saying a lot of
- 30:54Speaker 1: the majority of the league has been favoring zone runs
- 30:57Speaker 1: for years. I think the ratio last year was I
- 31:01Speaker 1: think it was fifty four to forty six zoned a gap,
- 31:03Speaker 1: which again almost being close to fifty to fifty is crazy.
- 31:06Speaker 1: They were third last year in terms of gap run rate,
- 31:09Speaker 1: and a lot of that was all you know, the
- 31:11Speaker 1: tackle poll stuff, dart where you're pulling Dawkins, you're pulling
- 31:14Speaker 1: Spencer Brown, or the long trap stuff again you're still
- 31:17Speaker 1: pulling Brown, you're still pulling Dawkins duo, which is a
- 31:20Speaker 1: run they leaned into last year as a concept that's
- 31:22Speaker 1: classified as a gap run. So they were a good
- 31:26Speaker 1: gap team last year. They're a good gap team. This year.
- 31:28Speaker 1: We've seen, like Charles mentioned, more zone worked in and
- 31:33Speaker 1: I think it ties into a lot of the you know,
- 31:35Speaker 1: the formations and the personnel that they've used more of
- 31:37Speaker 1: this year. So what you had last year, they are
- 31:40Speaker 1: three main concepts. You know, you had zoned, you had
- 31:43Speaker 1: you know, the tackle poll stuff, and then they'd work
- 31:45Speaker 1: in that mid zone run. This year, their mid zone
- 31:48Speaker 1: run has been their go to run, and then duo Dart, tackle,
- 31:55Speaker 1: long trap, all the tackle poll stuff. Both of those
- 31:57Speaker 1: have kind of been like, Okay, we'll pivot to them
- 31:59Speaker 1: if we need to, but we're really just gonna run
- 32:02Speaker 1: like midzone week and for those who don't know, midzone week,
- 32:06Speaker 1: it's just a zone run to the week side. The
- 32:09Speaker 1: mid zone aspect comes in when it's mid zone. That
- 32:12Speaker 1: just means the running backs aiming point the landmark when
- 32:15Speaker 1: they take off is essentially the inside leg of the
- 32:18Speaker 1: offensive tackle, So that's where you're looking at when it
- 32:20Speaker 1: comes into a mid zone run. I know we hear
- 32:23Speaker 1: verbiage a lot of times of you know, inside zone,
- 32:27Speaker 1: mid zone, outside zone. So inside zone, the aim point
- 32:31Speaker 1: of the running back. On inside zone it is the
- 32:33Speaker 1: inside leg of the guard. Mid zone, it's the inside
- 32:35Speaker 1: leg of the offensive tackle. Outside zone, inside leg of
- 32:39Speaker 1: the tight end. And then sometimes you'll have you know,
- 32:41Speaker 1: teams will also go wide zone, which is you know,
- 32:43Speaker 1: like that stretch play and that's a couple of yards
- 32:45Speaker 1: outside of that tight end. Just wanted to kind of
- 32:47Speaker 1: put that in there. But yeah, this year, midzone has
- 32:50Speaker 1: been their go to. I've talked about it on Twitter,
- 32:52Speaker 1: I've talked about it on shows. It's it's been Brady
- 32:56Speaker 1: to spam the hell out of it and usually how
- 32:58Speaker 1: he's spamming. It is a very presentation. Usually a three
- 33:02Speaker 1: by one set. He'll motion somebody from the three wide
- 33:05Speaker 1: receiver side in a jet motion across to create a
- 33:08Speaker 1: two by two, and then you'll run that mid zone
- 33:11Speaker 1: to that week side to the side that that receiver
- 33:15Speaker 1: is jet motioning too. He'll present it like that and
- 33:17Speaker 1: he'll spam it over and over and over again. What
- 33:20Speaker 1: he's done the past couple of weeks is start to
- 33:21Speaker 1: work play action off of that presentation to try and
- 33:24Speaker 1: break some tendencies and keep defenses guessing a little bit,
- 33:26Speaker 1: which has been nice. But I think the shift to
- 33:28Speaker 1: more zone this year coincides with the reduced formational with
- 33:32Speaker 1: and the personnel that they've gone with more You've got
- 33:34Speaker 1: six offensive linemen, you've got the tight ends that you
- 33:38Speaker 1: want to get on the field, and the bigger bodied
- 33:41Speaker 1: wide receivers. So even when you're going three by one
- 33:44Speaker 1: and you're in eleven personnel, meaning you got three wide receivers,
- 33:47Speaker 1: they're still close to the line of scrimmage. You've got
- 33:49Speaker 1: bodies near or around or attached to the line of scrimmage.
- 33:53Speaker 1: You're increasing that surface count on the line of scrimmage.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Those zone runs really pair well with the condensed formations,
- 34:01Speaker 1: heavier personnel, that type of look. If you want to
- 34:03Speaker 1: kind of put it in perspective, just think of, you know,
- 34:05Speaker 1: the Shanahan and mcvayh offenses for a while, the idea
- 34:09Speaker 1: of okay, here comes zone, zone zone, now here comes
- 34:13Speaker 1: the play action with the boot off of it. It
- 34:14Speaker 1: just marries the run in the past very well, the
- 34:17Speaker 1: play action off of zone runs. It's very easy to
- 34:20Speaker 1: make a play action play from a zone scheme look
- 34:24Speaker 1: exactly like a zone run. It blends and marries really well.
- 34:29Speaker 1: And so yeah, the Bills have pivoted a bit more
- 34:31Speaker 1: to that this year, but it's that diversity overall. You
- 34:34Speaker 1: have the ability to run that mid zone week, you
- 34:37Speaker 1: can go duo, and then you have the tackle pull stuff,
- 34:40Speaker 1: dart and long trap. You've got that ability at a
- 34:43Speaker 1: moment's noones and we've seen it this year. We saw
- 34:45Speaker 1: it in Week two against Miami where they were running
- 34:49Speaker 1: mid zone week and Miami keyed in on it, and
- 34:52Speaker 1: then Brady was like, okay, cool, let's pivot the duo.
- 34:54Speaker 1: We saw it a couple of weeks ago against the
- 34:55Speaker 1: Colts as well. They key in on a Zaire Franklin
- 34:58Speaker 1: attacks Quity paid, beats his man outside, they shut down
- 35:02Speaker 1: a mid zone run, and after that we I think
- 35:04Speaker 1: five out of the next runs were duo. Five out
- 35:06Speaker 1: of the next nine runs were duo. So that ability
- 35:09Speaker 1: to pivot at the drop of a hat and be
- 35:11Speaker 1: able to have multiple core runs schemes that you can
- 35:16Speaker 1: lean into based on opponent, based on game script, based
- 35:20Speaker 1: on matchup, and then be able to pivot if that
- 35:22Speaker 1: doesn't work, to be able to come into every week
- 35:24Speaker 1: and be like, now we're gonna stick with midzone, that's
- 35:26Speaker 1: our go to for this week, and then if it's
- 35:28Speaker 1: not working and be like, okay, cool, let's switch and pivot.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Like that's so tremendous. That run game diversity is so important,
- 35:34Speaker 1: and the fact that they can run the ball out
- 35:35Speaker 1: of eleven out of twelve, out of thirteen out of
- 35:39Speaker 1: their sixth offensive linemen sets, being able to do all
- 35:42Speaker 1: of that is really nice. And what's also a really
- 35:44Speaker 1: nice piece is how well that mid zone run also
- 35:48Speaker 1: pairs with duo, so duo is always run to the
- 35:51Speaker 1: tight end side, so it's always, you know, and with
- 35:53Speaker 1: all the bills align right, it's you know, majority of
- 35:57Speaker 1: the time they're run formations and a lot of their personnel.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Some formational stuff in general is you know, if you're
- 36:02Speaker 1: thinking about it in your mind, Dion Dawkins is the
- 36:05Speaker 1: end man over here to the left, it's you know, Dawkins,
- 36:08Speaker 1: Edwards McGovern, Torrence Brown, and then it's usually Knox Kincaid
- 36:14Speaker 1: or Anderson Knox Anderson Kincaid, or it's you know, a
- 36:18Speaker 1: couple wide receivers and knocks. So you have kind of
- 36:21Speaker 1: the offensive line into the tight end extra offensive lineman
- 36:25Speaker 1: wide receiver grouping. So when you run duo, you run
- 36:28Speaker 1: it to that tight end side, to that number side.
- 36:31Speaker 1: When you run midzone week, you run it to the
- 36:33Speaker 1: weak side, the non number side, And you can run
- 36:37Speaker 1: both of those runs out of the same formation with
- 36:40Speaker 1: the same presentation, with the same personnel, and all you
- 36:43Speaker 1: have to do is go left or go right, and
- 36:47Speaker 1: you can build that into the line with alan. You
- 36:50Speaker 1: can see the numbers here and say, you know, you
- 36:52Speaker 1: have a duo run called here. You can potentially package
- 36:55Speaker 1: that with you know, midzone week and go to that
- 36:57Speaker 1: opposite side or bake in the numbers adjustment pieces with
- 37:01Speaker 1: pass and run, and again there's less tells Also, when
- 37:04Speaker 1: you're kind of coming to the line, it's not like, Okay,
- 37:08Speaker 1: here's this formation, they're gonna run duo. No, it's here's
- 37:12Speaker 1: this formation. Oh, they could run duo or they could
- 37:15Speaker 1: run mid zone. Okay, you know they're more of a
- 37:18Speaker 1: mid zone team. Let's kind of counteract for that, and
- 37:20Speaker 1: then the play action comes, or then duo comes, or
- 37:22Speaker 1: something else happens out of that. It's a straight up,
- 37:24Speaker 1: you know, under center drop back pass, which doesn't happen
- 37:26Speaker 1: a ton for the Bills or really anybody nowadays in football.
- 37:29Speaker 1: But it's that diversity, it's that formational variability. It's that
- 37:34Speaker 1: multiplicity you have in the run game because of the
- 37:38Speaker 1: concepts you can run and the more bodies you have
- 37:41Speaker 1: attached to or around or hipped off the line of scrimmage,
- 37:45Speaker 1: the more you can get to in your run game.
- 37:47Speaker 1: That's a big part of the reason we I've been
- 37:49Speaker 1: talking about it for several years, the ideas of moving
- 37:51Speaker 1: toward reduced formational with condensed formations twelve personnel and having
- 37:57Speaker 1: true twelve personnel versatility where you're both your tight ends
- 38:00Speaker 1: can function as blockers in the run game or as
- 38:02Speaker 1: actual pass catchers in the pass game, it just opens
- 38:05Speaker 1: up so much of your offense because you don't have
- 38:07Speaker 1: to turn the page to access more of the menu
- 38:09Speaker 1: in both the run and pass. And yeah, that run
- 38:13Speaker 1: game diversity is something I'm extremely thankful for. Again, mid zone,
- 38:16Speaker 1: like Charles mentioned, mid zone, to the weak side has
- 38:19Speaker 1: been their bread and butter, their go to run this year,
- 38:22Speaker 1: and you'll see it a lot. Just agad. It's always
- 38:26Speaker 1: to that weak side. It could be to the left,
- 38:27Speaker 1: it could be to the right. It's always just to
- 38:29Speaker 1: whatever the weak side of the formation is. But knowing
- 38:33Speaker 1: that if that's not working, they can pivot to one
- 38:36Speaker 1: of these other two concepts. They have three core concepts
- 38:39Speaker 1: that you run really well. That's a really nice thing
- 38:42Speaker 1: to have. And again that also takes stress off of
- 38:44Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You don't have to always press the Josh
- 38:46Speaker 1: Allen button with his arm or with his legs. You
- 38:48Speaker 1: don't have to tax him too much because it's just like, Okay,
- 38:50Speaker 1: let's run these I don't want to say basic because
- 38:52Speaker 1: I think that has a negative connotation, but let's just
- 38:54Speaker 1: run these basic concepts, these basic schemes. Let's just press
- 38:58Speaker 1: these buttons and pull these levers and if they adjust
- 39:01Speaker 1: to it or they beat it. Cool, We'll push a
- 39:03Speaker 1: different button or pull a different lever. And that's a
- 39:05Speaker 1: testament to Brady again, another testament to Aaron Kromer, and
- 39:08Speaker 1: just with how this line is gelled, how they're able
- 39:10Speaker 1: to block, and then the tight ends functioning within that
- 39:13Speaker 1: run blocking aspect as well everything the marriage or the
- 39:16Speaker 1: run in the past, how you tie it all together,
- 39:19Speaker 1: really really real nice piece. Just the Tipkadu saying I'm
- 39:23Speaker 1: thankful JP Lostman is in our quarterback. Oh the lossman days.
- 39:27Speaker 1: Pop's saying, do you think McGovern Edwards has been better
- 39:30Speaker 1: than Morse and McGovern last year? Ooh, I think it's been.
- 39:34Speaker 1: I think it's different. I think McGovern and Edwards McGovern
- 39:40Speaker 1: is a different type of center than Morse. The longer arms,
- 39:44Speaker 1: the better anchor. I think it's different. And I'm not
- 39:47Speaker 1: trying to say that as a cop out. Like Mitch
- 39:48Speaker 1: Morris is one of the best movement centers in football.
- 39:51Speaker 1: You want to get going on a pin and pull,
- 39:53Speaker 1: or you want to use him on a full block
- 39:55Speaker 1: on some zone runs and getting out and scooping and
- 39:57Speaker 1: climbing to the to the second level and picking up
- 39:59Speaker 1: a line or anybody. Morse is legitimately one of the
- 40:02Speaker 1: best in the business. When it comes to that. McGovern
- 40:05Speaker 1: isn't a bad athlete, but he's not the same level
- 40:07Speaker 1: of mover that Morse is. Morse also isn't the physical
- 40:12Speaker 1: presence that McGovern is doesn't anchor as well. So I
- 40:16Speaker 1: think McGovern I'm confusing all the m names now. McGovern
- 40:20Speaker 1: I think has provided better security for the depth and
- 40:25Speaker 1: the interior of the pocket, and also is giving you
- 40:28Speaker 1: a little bit more downhill movement ability. Morse I think
- 40:32Speaker 1: gave you more from a movement standpoint, from an athleticism standpoint.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Different so different skill sets, different traits, and how that
- 40:38Speaker 1: ties in schematically. I like what McGovern and Edwards has
- 40:42Speaker 1: been though I if I had to pick one, it's
- 40:47Speaker 1: tough to say who's been better. I really again, because
- 40:50Speaker 1: they're they're different. For me. It's like comparing, you know,
- 40:53Speaker 1: a home run hitter who's gonna mash forty homers but
- 40:56Speaker 1: back to sixty with a guy who hits three twenty
- 41:00Speaker 1: but only hits like twenty homers, and it's like, okay,
- 41:03Speaker 1: like which would you rather have? Type of deal? I
- 41:05Speaker 1: just think they're different with skill sets and traits and
- 41:07Speaker 1: how it ties in. But I've been pleased with mcgovernor
- 41:10Speaker 1: Edwards as a duo this year, Jason saying, Okay, serious question, though,
- 41:15Speaker 1: what do you make of their running back usage? Cook
- 41:17Speaker 1: clearly gets the majority, but it really seems situational the
- 41:20Speaker 1: use of the running backs. What do you think they
- 41:22Speaker 1: see that makes them do that? So one, I think
- 41:26Speaker 1: Ty Johnson, you know, kind of start from the bottom
- 41:28Speaker 1: of Ti Johnson is really good on third downs. He's
- 41:31Speaker 1: he's Ty Johnson's a good running back. I know he's
- 41:33Speaker 1: third on this step chart and really doesn't get talked
- 41:35Speaker 1: about a lot. Ty Johnson's a good running back man.
- 41:37Speaker 1: He's good on the ground, he's good coming out of
- 41:40Speaker 1: the backfield and catching the football by design or on checkdowns.
- 41:44Speaker 1: And he's also the best pass protector. The Bills have
- 41:46Speaker 1: it running back in terms of actually like being a
- 41:48Speaker 1: functional blocker, being able to pick up blitzes, but also
- 41:51Speaker 1: being able to recognize the blitz, being able to understand
- 41:54Speaker 1: who his assignment is, who he's supposed to pick up,
- 41:56Speaker 1: being able to scan, read, and react and then actually
- 42:00Speaker 1: function at the blitz pickup spot or rush pickup spot.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Ty Johnson is their best guy. Davis isn't bad. Cook
- 42:07Speaker 1: has made improvements, but Cook it's still not a strength
- 42:09Speaker 1: for him. And Davis is a rookie, although he's better
- 42:11Speaker 1: than Cooking that regard. So I think you have that
- 42:14Speaker 1: with Ty Johnson and then to go to the top
- 42:17Speaker 1: with James Cook. Cook just has more juice than anybody
- 42:20Speaker 1: in that running back room. And I've talked about it
- 42:23Speaker 1: on Twitter. I don't think I've talked about him. I
- 42:24Speaker 1: talked about a little bit on the show. Just the
- 42:27Speaker 1: physicality that he's added to his game this year, the
- 42:29Speaker 1: contact balance, the toughness, the power, the ability to consistently
- 42:33Speaker 1: fall forward. I think James Cooking I'm talking about him
- 42:36Speaker 1: a little bit in another segment here, but I think
- 42:40Speaker 1: James Cook has really done a good job in terms
- 42:41Speaker 1: of rounding himself out into an overall legitimate RB one
- 42:45Speaker 1: with what he can do on the ground, power, contact balance, speed, agility, vision,
- 42:51Speaker 1: gap zone in terms of scheme, and then also being
- 42:54Speaker 1: able to catch the ball at the backfield. The only
- 42:55Speaker 1: thing that's hurting from being a complete true or three
- 42:57Speaker 1: down back is the pass protection stuff. Ray Davis. I
- 43:01Speaker 1: like what he offers. Again, we've saw We've seen him
- 43:04Speaker 1: show those glimpses coming out of the backfield catching the ball.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Like I talked about when he was drafted out of Kentucky,
- 43:08Speaker 1: He's a good receiving back out of the backfield, more
- 43:11Speaker 1: of a hammer, more of a downhill threat, but still
- 43:13Speaker 1: enough juice and shake to him, but a bit more
- 43:16Speaker 1: ground and pound and downhill at you type of run.
- 43:20Speaker 1: I think when it comes to the usage, it's Cook
- 43:23Speaker 1: is the one. He can run every scheme that they have.
- 43:26Speaker 1: He's got that speed, you know, and I think that's
- 43:28Speaker 1: the difference that separates him and Ray Davis. Even though
- 43:31Speaker 1: I like Davis and I like Johnson as well. I
- 43:34Speaker 1: think the two touchdowns for Cook against Kansas City really
- 43:37Speaker 1: put that into perspective. The first one is a you know,
- 43:42Speaker 1: zone run to that week side and it's not blocked poorly,
- 43:46Speaker 1: but Casey has the number advantage on that side. They're
- 43:49Speaker 1: gapped out, and Cook just beats it to the corner
- 43:52Speaker 1: and scores purely because of juice and speed. That's it.
- 43:56Speaker 1: Then the second touchdown he scores on duo by running
- 43:59Speaker 1: through their safety and breaking a couple tackles and falling
- 44:02Speaker 1: forward and going through dudes to score like he has
- 44:05Speaker 1: that combination right now that makes him the one. So
- 44:08Speaker 1: when I'm talking running back usage, I think Cook is
- 44:11Speaker 1: the true one. Then you spell him with Davis, and
- 44:13Speaker 1: then when they need a third down back or more
- 44:15Speaker 1: of a passing down back, that is ty Johnson, just
- 44:18Speaker 1: based on how it shook out so far. But Joe
- 44:25Speaker 1: saying all the more reason that we hope Kinkate emerges
- 44:28Speaker 1: as a blocker later this season or the next compliment
- 44:31Speaker 1: that diversity by now enhancing the threat of Kincage's duality
- 44:34Speaker 1: as a tight end, I completely agree. I put out
- 44:38Speaker 1: a tweet and a blue sky post a couple of
- 44:42Speaker 1: weeks ago on a conversation that Nate Tys and I
- 44:45Speaker 1: had here on the show back in April of twenty
- 44:47Speaker 1: twenty two, and he and I were talking about, you know,
- 44:51Speaker 1: the future of offenses in twelve personnel and why it
- 44:54Speaker 1: was so important and so much of the value of
- 44:57Speaker 1: twelve personnel, and Dalt Kinkate in particular, so much that
- 45:00Speaker 1: value is tied to being a functional run blocker against
- 45:04Speaker 1: as many body types as possible. If Dalton can kid
- 45:08Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he can't, but if Dalton kinkaid
- 45:11Speaker 1: cannot function as a blocker against linebackers, edges from time
- 45:16Speaker 1: to time, bigger body types, then he's essentially just a
- 45:19Speaker 1: big wide receiver. If his only value as a blocker
- 45:22Speaker 1: is against nickel corners, he's essentially just a big body
- 45:26Speaker 1: wide receiver. Because you can get that type of blocking
- 45:28Speaker 1: from Shakir, from Hollins, from Coleman, from Samuel. You need
- 45:33Speaker 1: to be able to dig out safeties. You need to
- 45:35Speaker 1: be able to block or crack on a linebacker, or
- 45:39Speaker 1: base block a linebacker, or hold your own against a
- 45:42Speaker 1: defensive end. That's always going to be a mismatch, but
- 45:44Speaker 1: being able to hold your own enough to impede them
- 45:46Speaker 1: or provide an obstacle to them. If Kincaid can't do
- 45:50Speaker 1: that regularly, then again he's essentially just a big bodied
- 45:53Speaker 1: wide receivers and that big bodied wide receiver. And that's
- 45:56Speaker 1: not terrible, right, but it does limit his value because
- 46:00Speaker 1: part of the idea, like I've mentioned a little bit
- 46:02Speaker 1: ago with twelve personnel, is being able to go with
- 46:05Speaker 1: these formations and alignments and being able to access more
- 46:08Speaker 1: of the menu without turning the page. If he's not
- 46:11Speaker 1: a threat as a run blocker in a variety of ways.
- 46:14Speaker 1: That limits what you can get to, and it also
- 46:16Speaker 1: limits the dictation that you have to the defense because
- 46:19Speaker 1: now you're not necessarily forcing them into a bind with
- 46:21Speaker 1: their personnel, because it's not like, well, we got to
- 46:24Speaker 1: match with this personnel grouping, or we got to match
- 46:27Speaker 1: with three linebackers or this safety or this corner or
- 46:30Speaker 1: this nickel because of you know, they there in twelve
- 46:32Speaker 1: and they can get to anything in the run. In
- 46:34Speaker 1: the past, it just limits what you can do. So
- 46:37Speaker 1: I do think again, the good news with Kincaid is
- 46:39Speaker 1: he is a willing blocker. He's just not the most functional.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Part of it is how he's built, you know, size
- 46:44Speaker 1: and frame. He's you know, obviously got the size and
- 46:47Speaker 1: frame advantage against corners in most dbs, but it doesn't
- 46:52Speaker 1: hold up as much against bigger or more physical or
- 46:55Speaker 1: more violent or imposing type dudes like linebackers and defensive ends.
- 46:58Speaker 1: And again, a tight end against a defensive end is
- 47:01Speaker 1: usually always going to be a mismatch. But you look
- 47:02Speaker 1: at somebody like Josh Reynolds is a good example last
- 47:06Speaker 1: year for the Detroit Lions. Now he's on the Broncos.
- 47:09Speaker 1: You go to the NFC championship game against the forty
- 47:11Speaker 1: nine ers, and in their first couple of plays they
- 47:14Speaker 1: run crack toss and Josh Reynolds is washing Nick Bosa down. Again,
- 47:20Speaker 1: He's not annihilating Bosa. He's not you know, pancaking him
- 47:23Speaker 1: and drive him into the dirt. But he cracks on him,
- 47:26Speaker 1: holds his ground, and is able to get pushed and
- 47:29Speaker 1: get movement on him. That's the type of stuff you
- 47:31Speaker 1: want to see from Dalky Kate. It's not like, yeah,
- 47:34Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, base block Khalil Mack and put
- 47:36Speaker 1: him into the dirt or just place him and drive
- 47:38Speaker 1: him back five feet. He just needs to show more
- 47:41Speaker 1: functionality in those type of situations and in those roles.
- 47:44Speaker 1: And again the good news is he's willing, he's not soft,
- 47:47Speaker 1: He's not shy or scared of contact or scared to
- 47:50Speaker 1: kind of mash with dudes. He's just not functional there.
- 47:53Speaker 1: Part of it is size and frame and kind of
- 47:55Speaker 1: how he's physically built where he carries his weight. And
- 47:58Speaker 1: I also think part of it is technique based. And
- 48:00Speaker 1: again maybe Chromer you know, gets him in the gym
- 48:03Speaker 1: a little bit more and can kind of get him
- 48:04Speaker 1: on that Dawson Knox level. Knox has become a really
- 48:06Speaker 1: good blocker. He just has to, you know, pair it
- 48:09Speaker 1: with the technique and some physicality as well, or swing
- 48:12Speaker 1: it one way or the other. You don't have to
- 48:13Speaker 1: be the most physical or the most violent, but if
- 48:15Speaker 1: your technique is on point, you con mitigate it one
- 48:17Speaker 1: way or the other. Same thing. If your technique isn't
- 48:20Speaker 1: on point, but you're just violent you want to mash,
- 48:22Speaker 1: you can kind of do the job a little bit
- 48:25Speaker 1: aiden saying why are certain running backs better at blocking?
- 48:28Speaker 1: Is it just a size thing or a willingness? It's
- 48:31Speaker 1: a combination of those two and technique. I think with Cook,
- 48:34Speaker 1: some of it is size. He's not the biggest dude,
- 48:36Speaker 1: you know, listed around two hundred pounds. I don't know
- 48:38Speaker 1: what he is now. I think he's he looks thicker
- 48:41Speaker 1: this year, so I feel like he's like two poh seven,
- 48:42Speaker 1: two oh eight. So some of it is just size.
- 48:45Speaker 1: You know, if you're a two hundred and five pound
- 48:47Speaker 1: running back and a two even if there's a small linebacker,
- 48:54Speaker 1: say you're a two hundred and thirty pound linebacker running
- 48:56Speaker 1: downhill at a two hundred and five pound running back
- 49:00Speaker 1: that linebacker is twenty five pounds on your running back
- 49:02Speaker 1: and they're coming with momentum and speed. There the hammer,
- 49:05Speaker 1: you are the nail, So you don't necessarily have the
- 49:08Speaker 1: most size and willingness will tie into that a little bit,
- 49:11Speaker 1: but it's size, it's frame, and then it is technique
- 49:13Speaker 1: as well. You know, Johnson is a little stockier, a
- 49:16Speaker 1: little thicker, also more experienced, so the technique is going
- 49:19Speaker 1: to be better, but also size and frame kind of
- 49:21Speaker 1: lens itself. It can be a mixture of all three. Right,
- 49:23Speaker 1: If you're just super willing. Again, if you're super willing,
- 49:25Speaker 1: you're violent, you can get the job done. If your
- 49:27Speaker 1: technique is tremendous, you can get the job done. If
- 49:30Speaker 1: you're just a tank and your technique isn't great, you
- 49:34Speaker 1: can kind of just stonewall dudes because you're bigger than
- 49:36Speaker 1: they are, just as big as they are, and your
- 49:37Speaker 1: technique can be a little poorer because you have that size.
- 49:40Speaker 1: So it really is a combination of a multitude of
- 49:43Speaker 1: those things. That's a really good question, Puka saying Cook
- 49:45Speaker 1: has done a good job of taking his game to
- 49:47Speaker 1: the next level. I legitimately believe he has. I don't
- 49:50Speaker 1: really believe in getting giving running backs a second contract.
- 49:52Speaker 1: It has to be a real special situation. But I
- 49:55Speaker 1: think he's done a good job in kind of earning
- 49:57Speaker 1: him a next contract, whether it's with the Bills or
- 49:59Speaker 1: somebody else. He is and if he can just improve
- 50:01Speaker 1: that pass blocking a little bit, man, he can be
- 50:04Speaker 1: a real threat as a true three down back with
- 50:07Speaker 1: what he can do out of the backfield in a
- 50:08Speaker 1: multitude of ways. And watching impair that physicality with the
- 50:11Speaker 1: speed and the juice, it's nice. Ralph saying Cook is
- 50:14Speaker 1: watching Davi is starting to take notes on how to
- 50:16Speaker 1: lower his pads. I honestly think there's some of that
- 50:18Speaker 1: in there. I think Davis brought that hammer mentality and
- 50:20Speaker 1: Cook was like, all right, now I'm gonna bring that too.
- 50:23Speaker 1: I can also do that. Watch me, and it's it's
- 50:25Speaker 1: been really nice. Aiden saying Cromer has to booking Kaid
- 50:29Speaker 1: in a blocking boot cap this summer. I like that.
- 50:31Speaker 1: Aiden saying, does Kinka just need to put on more muscle?
- 50:33Speaker 1: It depends because you could add more muscle, But if
- 50:35Speaker 1: you add more muscle and sacrifice flexibility or appliability or
- 50:41Speaker 1: fluidity in your game, and just overall movement, then it
- 50:44Speaker 1: kind of becomes a loss, and then how much are
- 50:45Speaker 1: you sacrificing in the receiving aspect to kind of beef
- 50:48Speaker 1: up there? Again, I think a lot of it is
- 50:51Speaker 1: just technique based form. If he can add some more
- 50:52Speaker 1: muscle and thicking out a little bit while not sacrificing
- 50:55Speaker 1: too much from an agility and explosion and flexibility perspective,
- 50:59Speaker 1: I'm all for it, but it is a dangerous mix.
- 51:01Speaker 1: You you know, kind of just need to get you know,
- 51:03Speaker 1: get some more saying to you in a little heavier
- 51:06Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of how you play, whether
- 51:08Speaker 1: it's literally or kind of figuratively good questions sarre, I
- 51:11Speaker 1: like that insane. Maybe put on some ankle weights from
- 51:13Speaker 1: run plays. Yeah, could be whatever gets the job done,
- 51:17Speaker 1: Whatever gets the job done. Next piece I want to
- 51:20Speaker 1: talk about here is uh, you know, I mentioned some
- 51:26Speaker 1: of these players earlier in a variety of forms, in
- 51:29Speaker 1: a variety of fashions, but I want to talk about
- 51:32Speaker 1: them in specificity now. Ba I tweeted this out earlier.
- 51:38Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a spoiler for kind
- 51:40Speaker 1: of some thoughts here in the show. The twenty twenty
- 51:42Speaker 1: two draft class for the Buffalo Bills. I am thankful
- 51:46Speaker 1: for that draft class because that group has really had
- 51:49Speaker 1: a significant impact on the team this year. Going through it.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Just for those who don't know, the twenty twenty two
- 51:56Speaker 1: draft class, Kyrie Elam in round one, James Cooking round two,
- 51:59Speaker 1: Terrell burn in round three, Khalil Secure in round five,
- 52:02Speaker 1: Matta Riza in round six, Christian Benford in round six,
- 52:05Speaker 1: Luke Tanuda in round six, Bayal Inspector in round seven.
- 52:09Speaker 1: So you had you had eight draft picks in that class.
- 52:14Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I just wanted to confirm. Sometimes
- 52:16Speaker 1: my math can be wrong. You add eight draft picks
- 52:19Speaker 1: in that class and four have been very legitimate hits,
- 52:22Speaker 1: and it become plus starters for you. James Cook, we've
- 52:25Speaker 1: already talked about next one. Terrell Bernard in round three,
- 52:29Speaker 1: the air traffic controller of the Bills defense, as I
- 52:32Speaker 1: always refer to him, extremely smart, good coming forward, a
- 52:36Speaker 1: good blitzer played in a very pro ready pro style
- 52:41Speaker 1: system at Baylor under head coach Dave or Randa. Understands
- 52:44Speaker 1: how to play the game from the neck up with
- 52:46Speaker 1: his intelligence and how to again quarterback of defense, coordinating everyone,
- 52:50Speaker 1: executing push calls, telling you know this, this is the
- 52:53Speaker 1: play that's coming or if they run this play, you're
- 52:55Speaker 1: doing this, I'm doing that, you're going over here. Just
- 52:59Speaker 1: a really altmit adjuster. But then the actual play understanding
- 53:03Speaker 1: you know, his size limitations, being able to slash and
- 53:05Speaker 1: shoot and trigger and make plays in and around the
- 53:08Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, make him plays and coverage. What he's
- 53:11Speaker 1: been has been a real strength for this Bill's defense.
- 53:14Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir talked him about, talked about him a little bit.
- 53:18Speaker 1: What he's become. I mean, you know through you know,
- 53:22Speaker 1: before week twelve through eleven weeks, amongst forty seven wide
- 53:25Speaker 1: receivers with at least fifty targets, he was ninth and
- 53:27Speaker 1: EPA per target, sixth in total EPA, third and success rate,
- 53:31Speaker 1: thirteenth in yards per target, seventh in yards per route run,
- 53:34Speaker 1: the lowest average depth of target out of those forty
- 53:37Speaker 1: seven wide receivers at three point five yards and the
- 53:39Speaker 1: lowest average depth of catch at two point six yards.
- 53:43Speaker 1: And he was third league wide in yards after catch
- 53:46Speaker 1: and second amongst wide receivers only to Jamar Chase, who
- 53:48Speaker 1: has had back to back weeks of just monster yards
- 53:52Speaker 1: after catch games. What Shakir has become in this offense
- 53:56Speaker 1: again a fifth round pick. I still don't understand how
- 53:59Speaker 1: we lasted to the fifth. I thought he would go
- 54:00Speaker 1: in round three, round four, to the latest, but you know,
- 54:04Speaker 1: lasted until round five. The Bill's got him. He has been,
- 54:07Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, the security blanket, the easy
- 54:09Speaker 1: button for this Bill's offense, whether it's by design on
- 54:12Speaker 1: tunnel screens or taking advantage of space and leverage with
- 54:17Speaker 1: the RPO bubbles, the runs with the pass tags where
- 54:20Speaker 1: Allen is just reading numbers and spitting it out really
- 54:22Speaker 1: quick to secure, or it's something like you know, running
- 54:24Speaker 1: a little over the ball route and getting the ball
- 54:26Speaker 1: at five yards and shaking somebody and turning that five
- 54:29Speaker 1: yard catch into fifteen yards after or twenty yards after.
- 54:32Speaker 1: And the physicality that he shows when he has the ball,
- 54:34Speaker 1: and how he turns into a running back once the
- 54:36Speaker 1: ball is in his hands. With the contact balance and
- 54:39Speaker 1: the moves and the gate and the power and the
- 54:42Speaker 1: control all of it, what Shakira has been absolutely tremendous.
- 54:46Speaker 1: Christian Ben for six round pick in that year, I
- 54:50Speaker 1: think is a huge part of why you're not too
- 54:52Speaker 1: upset that Kyri Elam hadn't panned out as the first
- 54:55Speaker 1: round corner he was drafted to be. But even Elam
- 54:57Speaker 1: has been you know, again, it's not ideal. I understand
- 55:01Speaker 1: that from everyone. It's not ideal resource allocation to have
- 55:04Speaker 1: a first round pick that isn't a core starter for
- 55:07Speaker 1: you and it's more of a deaf guys like a
- 55:09Speaker 1: corner three or a corner four, position three, position four,
- 55:12Speaker 1: whatever it is. I understand that. But Elam isn't a
- 55:15Speaker 1: complete lost cause. He might be a starter for the
- 55:17Speaker 1: Bills next year. We might be sitting here at this
- 55:19Speaker 1: point next year talking about how Christian Benford and Kyri
- 55:22Speaker 1: Elam are this real solid corner duo because the Bills
- 55:25Speaker 1: didn't keep Rasul Douglas and Elam is kind of taking
- 55:27Speaker 1: that mantle. So who knows. You know, Elam looked good
- 55:30Speaker 1: in the preseason and look good in camp. Got burned
- 55:33Speaker 1: by Tyreek Hill against Miami, but overall had a fine game.
- 55:37Speaker 1: Aside from that, we'll see if Elam can become anything.
- 55:39Speaker 1: But even if Elam was a huge bust, which I
- 55:43Speaker 1: still don't think he is at this point, because again
- 55:44Speaker 1: I think depth is valuable. But again I recognize he's
- 55:47Speaker 1: not without what you drafted for the first round. I
- 55:49Speaker 1: understand that. But Christian Benford, just rounding into last year,
- 55:54Speaker 1: I thought he was a real quality cornerback two. He's
- 55:58Speaker 1: turning into a legit corner back one, especially in today's NFL.
- 56:03Speaker 1: These numbers again from go heading into the buy amongst
- 56:06Speaker 1: one hundred and four corners with at least fifteen targets.
- 56:08Speaker 1: Per Sports Info Solutions, Benford was seventh in EPA per target,
- 56:12Speaker 1: third in EPA thirty eighth and success rate, fifth in
- 56:16Speaker 1: yards per attempt, fifteenth in yards per target, eleventh and
- 56:20Speaker 1: quarterback rating against. And then he was second in HAVOC,
- 56:23Speaker 1: which is a metric per field vision that brand in
- 56:27Speaker 1: that company that accounts for scheme and adds that context
- 56:30Speaker 1: into it as well. So he's second in that metric
- 56:33Speaker 1: and in that regard, it's just man like what Benford
- 56:39Speaker 1: has become, what Shakir has become, what Bernard has become,
- 56:43Speaker 1: what Cook has become. Even Biglan Inspector seventh round pick
- 56:46Speaker 1: quality special teamer also is able to stem the tide
- 56:49Speaker 1: a little bit for Terrell Bernard when he went out
- 56:52Speaker 1: earlier this year. Having somebody like Specter who came in
- 56:55Speaker 1: and wasn't a complete liability as a seventh round pick
- 56:57Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago. You don't even know
- 56:59Speaker 1: if a seven round is going to make the roster.
- 57:01Speaker 1: You're just hoping they can provide some value on special
- 57:02Speaker 1: teams and if they become something else cool, even similar
- 57:05Speaker 1: for a six round pick. So Specter becoming you know,
- 57:08Speaker 1: some functional depth is cool, and that's still a win.
- 57:12Speaker 1: So there's four legitimate plus starters Cook, Bernard, Shakir, Benford.
- 57:17Speaker 1: Two of those plus starters, Shakira and Benford came on
- 57:20Speaker 1: day three, Shakira in round five, Benford in round six.
- 57:23Speaker 1: And then again you're adding Inspector and I think you
- 57:25Speaker 1: do add Kyrie Elam as well, both those guys being
- 57:27Speaker 1: various and differing levels of functional depth. I know Spector
- 57:30Speaker 1: looks better because he's a seven round pick. Elum the
- 57:32Speaker 1: first I know. I just want to keep saying in
- 57:34Speaker 1: case someone jumps in right now and wants to yell
- 57:36Speaker 1: at me, But yeah, that twenty twenty two draft class
- 57:40Speaker 1: really hit. Prospect evaluation is still very much an inexact science,
- 57:44Speaker 1: but getting four plus level starters out of eight picks
- 57:47Speaker 1: is a huge win. And then having two other guys
- 57:50Speaker 1: that are providing on the roster as depth on your
- 57:54Speaker 1: chart and being able to come in in a pinch
- 57:55Speaker 1: if needed is also a nice little cherry on top
- 57:58Speaker 1: as well. It's it. It's just been such a quality
- 58:01Speaker 1: group that they've been able to maintain from there, and
- 58:05Speaker 1: it's been one that they needed, you know, in this
- 58:06Speaker 1: revamp year, you need these guys that are cost affordable
- 58:12Speaker 1: to produce. You need to capitalize on these guys to
- 58:15Speaker 1: kind of maximize their output while not costing an arm
- 58:18Speaker 1: and a leg and you having to pay them the move.
- 58:20Speaker 1: So getting this out of Cook again Cook round two,
- 58:23Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard Round three, Collusia Cure round five, Christian Benford
- 58:26Speaker 1: Brown six, and then Elaman one specter in seven. Just
- 58:30Speaker 1: a real strong quality draft class. Will see who gets
- 58:33Speaker 1: paid and who gets resigned going forward and for how
- 58:36Speaker 1: much and what it shakes down to. But yeah, this
- 58:38Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft class, they played well, you know
- 58:41Speaker 1: as rookies and some spurts depending on you know who
- 58:44Speaker 1: were really kind of Benford showing out and Cook flashing
- 58:46Speaker 1: a bit, and then more from Cook and Benford and
- 58:49Speaker 1: Bernard and Shakiir last year and then all formed of
- 58:52Speaker 1: again continuing to build like that new core, that new
- 58:56Speaker 1: nucleus for this Bill squad. Poyer's gone, Heide is gone,
- 59:00Speaker 1: Diggs is gone, Gabe Davis has gone. Like these previous
- 59:02Speaker 1: guys that were the leaders or the core they went out.
- 59:05Speaker 1: Who was that next group to kind of step in.
- 59:08Speaker 1: I'm really looking at that twenty twenty two draft class
- 59:10Speaker 1: in terms of leadership combination, but also that on field
- 59:13Speaker 1: production actual execution aspect. They have been absolutely huge and
- 59:17Speaker 1: absolutely tremendous. Charles saying Shakiro sixty four targets, hero drops, yeah,
- 59:24Speaker 1: part of it, I don't. I don't like bringing up
- 59:26Speaker 1: catch rate with Shakir because yes, he still has to
- 59:28Speaker 1: catch the ball, But like I mentioned, like his average
- 59:30Speaker 1: depth of target is three point five yards, which is
- 59:33Speaker 1: the lowest out of those forty seven wide receivers, and
- 59:35Speaker 1: his average depth of catches two point six yards, which
- 59:38Speaker 1: is also the lowest. So again, you still have to
- 59:40Speaker 1: catch the ball, and Allen can throw some bullets, so
- 59:42Speaker 1: if you're closer to him it might be a little harder.
- 59:44Speaker 1: But I don't think catch raight is the best thing
- 59:46Speaker 1: for Shakirir because so many of his targets are in
- 59:49Speaker 1: and around the line of scrimmage where it's just quick,
- 59:51Speaker 1: little like flips and hitters to him. But yes, he
- 59:53Speaker 1: is catching pretty much everything that's gone his way, which
- 59:56Speaker 1: is nice. And he's also showing that a little more
- 59:58Speaker 1: downfield as well. So you can kind of make argument
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: in case Bob's saying Josh deserves continuity at the wide
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: receiver position. One year deals hasn't panned out that well
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: except for Hollins, possibly Cooper Shakiir should get extended. Chemistry
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: can't be under value. I agree that cole securitis are
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: the contract ESSENTI will see kind of what that goes into.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Extra crispy saying Kali Secure kind of reminds me of
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: aman Ross Saint Brown, not quite as effective, but still
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: very good. I think that I don't want to make
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: this sound disrespectful to Secure, but yeah, I feel like
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: kind of the bargain bin a'man Ross Saint Brown, which
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: again I don't think is an insult to Secure, because
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: aman Ra is like one of the top five wide
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: receivers in football, especially with what he does as a blocker,
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: man like, and that's such an aspect of his game
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: that does not get enough credit. Obviously, if you're a
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: wide receiver, it's the pass catching stuff that gets you recognition.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: His hands, his route running, the toughness after the catch,
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: the ability at the catch point. He can run anything
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: and everything, and just what he can do is awesome.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: But he's a really good blocker. Like he's physical, he's nasty,
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: he can handle dudes that are bigger than him, like
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: various body types. Yeah, he's Yeah, he does a lot
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: RJ saying I still think Elon can be great. He
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: has more impactful splash plays than Trey White. Oh I
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: don't know about that, saying he's got more impactful splash
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: plays than Trey. I don't know if you can say that,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: but to each their own. And even if he did
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: have more splash plays, Tray was so technically sound coming
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: out of the gate. Like that level of technique I
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: think goes so unappreciated because's again it's not the sexiest.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: But yeah, Trey, I mean, Trey was locked down when
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: he was like when he was cooking, And it's a
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: shame that injury, kind of multiple injuries kind of took
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: him off track a little bit. But man, Trey was
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: something special. John's saying some take longer to mature than others, Like, yep,
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: you never know, maybe he catches on in year four
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: or further. Kind of go from there, Aiden saying, what
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: kind of contract do you expect Secure to get? Will
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: we be able to retain him? I think they will
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: be able to retain him. I haven't done any contractor
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: I got to take a look at comps and markets
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. If I take a
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: quick drink here, I'm so deep into scheme and structure
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: and looking at everything from a lead wide perspective on
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: the field and college stuff as well. I don't get
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: into contract things until the offseason, so circle back once
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: the season is done and I can dive into or
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: actually maybe I'll dive into it after this episode and
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: kind of go through it. But yeah, I gotta look
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: at comps and see what the market contracts were and
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: how that projects out. But I do think he can
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: be a realistic retention. I don't think he's going to
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: break the market or look to get like twenty million
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: dollars a year like. I think he'll be fine. Yeah,
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: And Aiden saying, just swap the Benford of the Olympics
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: and pretend you're happy exactly. Just just do that and
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: you're good. Oh, Pop's saying, Lad maconkey looks like he
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: could be a shakier Ladd is just Lad. Isn't the
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: yards after catch type of due that Shakira is. But
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: he's just such a good route runner, lad maconkie. I
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: said it coming out this past year in the draft,
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: like he's just such a professional route runner from day one.
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: I don't think the ceiling was super high, but the
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: floor was super high. He can run any route. He
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: understands pacing, deception, He's got a good release package. He's
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: good with his stems. He understands how to lie and
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna sell up field and pop out.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: He's got good feed, he's got good hips. He understands
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: how to get in and out of breaks decisively and sharply,
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: how to set defenders up. I saw him in person
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and he did not disappoint. Yeah,
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Lad McConkey is a Yeah. I think he's a different
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: kind of player than Shakir, but he's a professional from
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: day one, a professional route runner from day one. As
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: soon as he hit the field like that, there, let's
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: go into actually before we go into our next piece.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: I got a couple more topics that I want to
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: get through here, but I like to bring it up
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- 1:07:00Speaker 1: lumped them together because of what they mean schematically. Oh,
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: I gotta stop because we got a super chat. Carl says,
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: it's twenty nine days until Christmas. Where's your second tree?
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: I love the question, Carl. Haven't pulled out the second
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: tree yet because we haven't hit Thanksgiving yet. So next
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: week shows the full tree will be live and in effect.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: So I will take the littler tree, do some holiday
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: decor and decoration on it for Christmas. I'll move it
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: over to the little spot like you know, and then
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: I will take that bigger tree and plant it right there.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: I always wait. That's the rule of the big tree
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: in the house in the living room goes up after Thanksgiving.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: So this weekend that tree is going up this weekend,
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: and the other tree is gonna go up here. I
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: appreciate you keep me on my toest, Carl, and keep
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: me accountable. And thank you for being here as you
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: always are. And thank you for the super chat. You're
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: one of the most consistent contributors and donators and I
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and so does the brand. Thank you
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: very much for that. And good question. I appreciate you
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: appreciating the trees. But Daniel saying first spot track, Shakir's
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: market value is eighteen point eight million dollars per year
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: for what it's worth. Oh, I could see him. I
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: was gonna say. In my head, I was thinking fifteen million.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: Actually the kind of number that I had in my head.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: I don't know why the number. Let me see. Oh,
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: the number in my head was sixty four million over
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: four years, which is like sixteen million per I'm thinking
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: you'd probably get lasting. I'm hoping like fourteen million per
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: maybe fifteen. I don't think he pushes twenty maybe if
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: he continues to ball out and he has some playoff moments.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: But that's interesting that they market him around eighteen point eight. Yeah.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: My thought is kind of like fourteen to sixteen million
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: per somewhere around that range. I wish it could be
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: like ten million per that would be amazing. Jason, thank
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: you well. I always appreciate you being here. You're awesome.
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: I just consistent presence every single week, which is great,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: and your activity is awesome. I really appreciate and thank
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: you very much for the super chat. Thank you, And
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: Jason says, uh, thankful to you. Don't put pressure on
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: Ant's wife. Doesn't happen on our watch. I appreciate that.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: Thank you for not pressuring my wife when it comes
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: to the tree setup and all the production things that
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: happen behind me. I appreciate that. And then John coming
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: in saying, well, said Jason, that's awesome. Dominic, what's up?
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: Dom Dom says, I'm thankful for cover one in the
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: Goofy Discord Chat. Yeah, the discord chat is awesome. One
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: of the pieces we hang our hat on. I'm always
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: in the film the film chat. I post stuff a
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: lot of clips there, whether stuff I'm posting the Twitter
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: or stuff that's not. Yeah, so find me in the
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: film discord channel. But there's tons of different channels within
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: the discord, the Bills Chat, the college football chat, the
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: film chat. There's a multitude of things in a variety
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: of ways. Yeah, And it's like over five hundred people deep,
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: and the Bills Chat is always rolling. I feel like
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: it's so hard to just catch up and joining the conversation.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: So I feel like I feel like the even though
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: the film is deeper, I gravitate more towards that. And
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: then because it's somewhat less active, I feel like it's
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: the kiddie pool and for in terms of engagement, and
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: it makes me not feel this overwhelmed as the giant
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: Bills Chat, which is always just hopping. But yeah, Dom,
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: you're awesome. Appreciate you for that. John saying I enjoy
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: the educated folks in the chat as do why Jason
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: saying I can't figure the slot wide receiver market due
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: to how much or due to how there is such
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: a mix in name modern NFL. Yeah, dude, I mean,
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: especially now with how much like wide receiver ones move
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: into the slot and like what you get from Aman
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown, what you get from Justin Jefferson, what
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: you get from Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakoul and like
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: all these dudes like it muddies the whole waters out
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: of the slot Jamar Chase, Like all these dudes that
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: have inside outside flexibility and versatility, can align anywhere, can
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: run any route like move them, leave them stationary, slot
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: XZ backfield. Yeah, the market is wild now, but dudes
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: are getting paid so kind of hard to argue with
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: the guys chasing the bag top next topic of who
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: I'm thankful for, Taron Johnson and Greg Russeau wanted to
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: grab the comment for Joe saying I'm thankful for Rousseau
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: seemingly hitting his stride. Feels like this is the furthest
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: in the season. He's been healthy since his rookie year,
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: no jinks, and it looks like his past or skills
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: have improved too. Yeah, I think you know Rousseau starting
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: to have more of an inside move this year that
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: he's been dominant with When he's used it, it's worked.
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: And then him always being able to play with his length,
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: good hand placement, good punch, good pop, good strength, good leverage,
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: and just be one of the best run defending edges
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: in football consistently one of the best run defending defense
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: run run defending defensive linement. That is kind of hard
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: to say in the NFL. I wanted to tie him
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: and Taron Johnson together because I'm spoken about metrics for
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: both of them on Twitter, on shows. I wanted to
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: talk more about what they mean schematically and why I'm
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: so thankful for them. It's because of what they mean schematically,
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: especially in today's NFL, and especially with how good they're playing.
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: You know, Taron Johnson All Pro last year, Rousseau one
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: of the best run setting or edge setting run defending
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: defensive linement. Who I said it right, in all of football,
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: not just edges, anybody on the defensive line. They're so
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: important because of the buying that offenses want to put
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: you in today. The Bills especially, we know Nickel defense,
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: and they want to play with light boxes. They want
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: to only rush four, they want to play with light boxes.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: They want numbers in coverage. They want to limit explosives
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: in the past game. They want to keep everything in
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: front of them. They want to squeeze passing windows, play
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: top down rally, tackle, create havoc turnovers, all that kind
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: of stuff. By the way to do that for them
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: is again having numbers in coverage. When I say numbers
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: in coverage, having seven in coverage. If you have seven
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: in coverage consistently, you always have the numbers advantage against
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: the offense because the most an offense can get out
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: into a route distribution is five. Seven obviously is greater
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: than five, but you can game them up. Sometimes they're
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: only getting four, sometimes they're only getting three. The Bills
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: want that coverage advantage from a numbers perspective, plus being
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: able to consistently drop seven into coverage means you can
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: get to more in coverage, both in terms of pre
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: and post snap disguises, rotations, all that stuff, but just
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: in terms of general coverages, what you can do, how
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: you can get to them non traditional stuff. You know,
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: who's a split field player, who's the pole runner or
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: the Tampa player, who's covered in the four, who's the
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: cloud corner, who's dropping, who's going here. If you have numbers,
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: you can play more games, and we've seen the Bills
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: do that more this year in order to play with
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: light boxes and combat the personnel groupings that you see
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: from opposing offenses in today's NFL, you need players who
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: can live against the run and the pass in a
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: variety of ways. When we'll start with Taron Johnson what
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: he is as a nickel, I know so much of
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: the conversation as Ben. You know, Okay, if they play
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: teams that go twelve or thirteen personnel or twenty one
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: and they're really mashing, you do you take out Taron Johnson?
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: You know, Dorrian Williams has really developed, So when Milanal
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: comes back, you take out Tarran and put Dorian in there.
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: So on and so forth. The idea of kind of
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: like more base packages or base personnel with three linebackers,
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: I understand it. But Taron Johnson's a really good run defender,
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: and his ability to function and coverage in a multitude
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: of coverage is in a multitude of responsibilities. Whether he's
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: the hook player or the Kurla flat player, he's dropping
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: as a split field safety at times, or if he's
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: coming forward playing the run, playing in the box, taking
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: up pulling linemen, triggering shooting gaps, making tackles in and
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: around the line of scrimmage, playing in the box, playing
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: at that apex, shooting off a variety of opponents right,
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: He's able to play like a linebacker and a nickel
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: corner at the same time, and that just increases the
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: flexibility and the variability for this defense. It allows you
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: to not be dictated to as much because you've got
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: somebody who can function legitimately function against the run and
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: also function against the pass. And then you take Greg Russo.
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: His ability is a game wrecker against the run. He
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: can cover like two gaps just by himself. You'll see
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: him cover that outside C gap, but then he has
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: the ability to stack shed and get those tree trunk
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: arms back across and into the B gap as necessary,
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: and make a tackle at the line of scrimmage. Like
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: His functionality against the run is part of what allows
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: the Bills to play light boxes and not get gouged
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: too much. Yes, they will get gashed from time to time.
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: We talk a bunch on this show about their run defense,
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: and their philosophy is very much like, we're gonna get got,
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: but we're also going to get you. You're gonna gash
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: us for six or nine or twelve. We're gonna get
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: you for minus four. We're gonna get you for minus two.
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: And when we get you in second and third behind
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: the sticks. That's when we capitalize, and that's when we pounce.
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: Russeau is integral to their philosophy and towards what they're
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: able to do and the numbers that they play in
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: the box or don't have to play in the box.
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: Being able to live in nickel personnel, being able to
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: spin a safety late, being able to have smaller, faster, rangier,
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: more trigger mentality. Linebackers like Bernard, like Malono, even Terren
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: Johnson to a degree with how he plays as a
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: quasi linebacker at times. Having somebody like Greg Russou up
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: front that can handle the run, that can maintain and
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: set the edge, but who can also penetrate. Who's great
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: with that bootleg, counter, reverse or run type of response
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: ability where he can move down the line and read, okay,
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: like let me watch for the cutback, Okay, here comes
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: the reverse. Okay, the quarterbacks keeping it. He's booting and
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: let me trigger on the QB. How sound he is
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: from an assignment and technique perspective against the run opens
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: up so much for the defense. Greg Russou is a
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: consistent force multiplier on this Bill's defensive line, whether he's
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: making a stop, whether he's not making a stop, whether
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: he's getting a sack, whether he's not. I still would
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: like his pass rush productivity to take another jump and
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: become a true overall, you know, edge one. But he's
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: so good against the run and has shown enough in
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: terms of pass rush that I think he's really kind
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: of coming into his own. And again, he's a force
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: multiplier and opens up a lot. He unlocks the defense
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: in a multitude of ways, and I think Taron Johnson
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: is in a very similar boat with how they both
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: allow the defense to play numbers and play coverage while
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: not being completely vulnerable or susceptible to the run game,
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: and just their read and recognition ability. Tarn especially on
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: the back end his communication, He's always been good with it,
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: but he's really stepped it up this year in the
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: absence of Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer Tarran and Greg Rousseau.
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: Really and again, there are numbers of metrics to speak to,
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: which is what they mean schematically as forced multipliers, as
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: unlockers for the rest of the defense, and how they
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: play philosophically and from an identity perspective really just honestly
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: means a lot. Jason saying, we talked about the quality
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: of Nathan Peterman is a scout team safety a few
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: days ago. That is the kind of quality depth you
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: get in the cover one discord. Never disappoints, never disappoints,
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: John Say, Oh, I missed that one. Jason says again,
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: our traditional opponents treat Tarran like another linebacker in the run.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: The less knowing teams still think they can attack that
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: like he won't be able to handle their runner, and
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: it's a classic battle. Yeah, he's able to match up
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: against receivers in the run game, matchup against tight ends.
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: He can take on fullbacks. He can take on alec
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: Engold and not get mismatched. When the Bills play the Dolphins,
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: he'll take on pulling guards and he'll shoot underneath, you know,
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: and trying. He'll even try and stop him in the hole,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: or plug a gap and force and fill or just
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: kind of get underneath someone to make a play. Terran
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: is at an absolute monster again All Pro last year
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: and very well deserving of it. One of the best,
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: if not the best slot corners and nickel dudes in
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: the entirety of the NFL. He and Greg Russo I
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: think are kind of somewhat mirrors in terms of how
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: they unlock the defense and what they mean schematically is
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: forced multipliers for the Bills defense. So yeah, very thankful
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: for them. This next piece, Bombo. It's been mentioned a
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: couple times in this episode by people in the chat,
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: which is awesome. But I labeled this depth and player development.
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: You could label it Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott, Bobby Babbage,
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: Joe Brady, the coaching staff, however we want. I just
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: labeled it depth and player development to kind of give
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: it a broader umbrella term, especially defensively, and what we've
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: seen this year, the defensive schematics, the player development consistently
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: being able to raise players floors and mitigate losses. Being
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: able to take your all pro corner in Taron Johnson
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: and remove him from the lineup and replace him with
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: Cam Lewis, who is like a safety slot hybrid, and
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: being able to mitigate that all pro loss and not
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: just be a hole and of vulnerability. Being able to
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: take your starting linebacker all pro linebacker Matt Malono, being
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: able to replace him with Dorian Williams, who had to
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: do a lot of learning on the job and who
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: still needs to do more learning on the job. I
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: still don't think he's there. I don't want to bash
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: him too much, but the progression that he's shown being
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: able to fill in for Milano I mentioned Specter earlier,
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: being able to step in for Torell Bernard. What we've
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: seen in a variety of spots, defensively but then again
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: even offensively, like the development of Khaliosha Kiir, even the
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: development of Keyon Coleman. What you've gotten from James Cook,
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: even from Ray Davis, like what you're seeing from Spencer Brown,
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: what you're seeing from os IRUs Torrants, like Dawson Noxy.
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: I knock my own chair down with my foot aways
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: played with the little lever, what you're seeing from Dawson Knox.
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: I still don't love the contract that knock Scott. I
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: am not a fan of it, and I don't think
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: he's become the past catching option that I think most
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: fans wanted him to be, given the potential or the
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: athleticism they saw on him, and given the contract that
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: he was given, I think he's would very much be
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: schemed open and his athleticism plays really well in the scheme.
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: Sale routes over routes crossers stuff where he can really
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: use that speed and pull away from defenders and stretch defenses.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: That's he's tremendous on that because of his speed and athleticism.
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: I don't think he's necessarily a guy that can just
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: get you a bucket and win one on one like
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: Dalton k and Kate can, but he does enough in
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: the past, and he's become a very good run blocker
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: against a variety of body types and skill sets. Again,
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: not necessarily to the level of the contract that he
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: signed a couple of years ago, but just the development
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: they've had as a whole on this team, but especially
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Christian Benford we
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: talked about like getting these guys late and being to
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: turn them into quality dudes, and just consistently being able
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: to raise floors and even raise ceilings for a variety
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: of guys, whether they're a UDFA or a day one pick,
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: Day two pick, Day three pick, a free agent, a
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: one year guy, a three year guy. In terms of
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: free agency, the variety of players and skill sets that
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: they brought in and fit them into their philosophy and
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: their culture and their identity, and being able again to
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: provide quality depths, so when you have injuries, you have
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: the depth to be able to withstand that and be like, oh,
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: Taron Johnson's out, he's you know what I'm saying this.
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: Taron Johnson, I think is arguably the most important player
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: for the entire Bills defense. I think he and Greg
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: Russou are arguably the two most important players for the
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: Bills defense. And the fact that you can lose Taron
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: Johnson and still be okay is a testament to the
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: depth and the coaching and player development on this team.
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: Even similar to Matt Mlonald, Matt Malonald takes this defense
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: to another level when he's in there. You know Bernard
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: does to a degree as well. Being able to lose
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: those guys and still be okay. It's just wild what
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: they've been able to do this year and again calling
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: card for the past couple of years. But the depth
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: that this team has been able to build regularly and
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: the player development that they've hit. I know, in some
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: areas it's been lacking, you know, I know we haven't
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: seen the you know, defensive line consistency or productivity that
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: we wanted to see given all of the resource allocation,
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: financially and in terms of draft capital over the past
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: several years. But they just know how to raise floors
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: for dudes, and raise ceilings, and sometimes that ceiling isn't
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: necessarily what we want, or that floor isn't necessarily what
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: we want. But they more often than not get quality
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: reps out of a lot of guys. They're able to
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: stem the tide and stem the bleeding a little bit
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: when they lose their studs or they lose their star guys.
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: They're good at adjustments. And again, a lot of this
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: is on the defensive side of the ball, but you're
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: seeing some of it offensively too. Just very thankful for
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: that this year again, because you lose Matt Malano in camp,
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: you lose Taron Johnson early in week one, you lose
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: rel Bernard early in week two, and those guys came back.
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: But you're able to kind of just deal with that
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: and be okay with that. And Kyrie Eland played some
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: reps this year and just what you know, Spencer Brown,
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier. Spencer Brown goes down and
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: Ryan Vandermark just steps in and you're like, Okay, he's
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: not a whole, He's not a vulnerability like that depth
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: and that player development is so huge because dudes are
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: going to go down, dudes are going to get banged up.
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: You need to have somebody be able to step in
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: and not have the wheels fall completely off. And that's
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: what the Bill has been able to do this year,
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: which is so important, and again a revamp year where
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: you are changing a little how you operate schematically, what
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: the direction is, the culture, the identity on the field,
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: off the field, all of that stuff. Man, Like, the
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: depth in player development has shown a lot this year
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: and it's something that stuck out to me and I'm
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: really thankful for it. I'm very appreciative of it, and
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what it continues to be. It's
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: part of the reason why the draft is so exciting
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: for the Bills every year because they might get a
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: Christian Benford, a Round six, a Khalilsha k here in
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: Round five, like these guys that they can get on
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: day three and Day two, and it's exciting to kind
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: of see the what they blossom into. And again it's
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: not necessarily while they got this guy, I don't want
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: to set the table for that, like, well, they can
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: get all these All pros in round six because they
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: got you know, Christian Benford there. But man, they've done
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: a really good job with depth and player development and
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: being able to stem the bleeding and mitigate losses when
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: guys have gone down. And that's a huge, huge, huge
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: kudos and testament to the coaching staff, the scouting department, Bean,
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: everybody kind of putting the roster together and knowing what
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: guys can be, and then the coaching staff getting them
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: to what they can be and meeting some of those expectations.
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: So huge, huge, huge piece syl coming in and saying, Aunt,
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: you Be has an All American linebacker Sean Dolek. Doles
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: kid is gonna be a good one. I saw some
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: clips of him. I haven't watched any UB games this year.
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: I haven't paid attention to you Be in any way,
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: shape or form. Yeah, I know he bawled out last
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: week or a couple of weeks ago. I saw some
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: people talking about him. I hope, you know, good for
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: him if he does, that's cool. I haven't watched him.
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: I haven't seen him. I can't speak on him, but
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: I'll take your word for it that he's gonna be
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: a good one. I hope he does. Maybe he can
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: follow in the footsteps of Andreasen or even better, or
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: you know, maybe top I don't I don't think anyone's
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: ever gonna top Khalil Mack coming out of UB with
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: how good he was, but maybe kind of put himself
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: into that type of conversation for you know, best dudes
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: to ever come out of u B. I would thinking
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: about that the other day with Khalil Mack because I
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: lived near UB and I was driving by and just
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: I drove by the stadium and I was just thinking, like,
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: man like Khalil Mack played here. Just I wanted Khalil
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: Max so bad in that draft when they traded up
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: for Sammy, I really thought it was gonna be for
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: Khalil and it was not. So on and so forth.
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: I really thought they were gonna get good times Rex Ryan,
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: good times, good times with Rex. I'm gonna throw up
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: the band and this is tootles, folks, because I'm gonna
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: start to wind down and we're going to say goodbye
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: on this episode before you leave. If you were here live,
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- 1:26:49Speaker 1: this comment from Jason who says one like equals one
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: extra ornament on ants Tree. I kind of should do that.
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: That's funny, But some of these shows get like a
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: couple hundred likes. I don't think I have enough ornaments listen. Really,
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: that'd be really finny. I kind of like this. I
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: like this a lot, Jason saying, I need to write
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: this down for when the draft comes to see if
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: this Buffalo, if this is Buffalo delusion or if he
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: is actually good. Yeah, yeah, I have to watch him.
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: I can't comment. I haven't seen any ub stuff this year. Again,
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: I always, even when I watch broadcast stuff, if I
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: haven't seen me all twenty two, I'm not really gonna
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: comment on somebody. There's too much highlight scouting on broadcast
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: and even all twenty two. People watch all twenty two
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: now just so they can grab highlights and clip stuff,
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: and they don't actually know what they're watching or talking about.
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I haven't seen them. I haven't even
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: seen them on broadcast, so I definitely got no comment.
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: But yeah, I've heard some really good things from some
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: Buffalo people. But to your point, it could be a
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: Buffalo delusion. I don't know. Oh question here, who do
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: you think will stay in free agency next offseason for
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: the Bills? I am not there yet in terms of
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: thinking who will stay, who's gonna go. I'm still analyzing
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: the Bills this year and a multitude of teams. I
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: am not in that spot, but I will be as
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: we go forward. I'm sorry that I don't have that
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: answer for you right now, but obviously I'll be in
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: to kind of preview that when this season ends, as
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: we get towards the end of twenty twenty four into
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: the beginning of twenty twenty five. Yeah, very excited for that.
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: I love off season time, loved it ever ever since
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: Madden Man, good times, good times. Yeah. But so that'll
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: do it for us here in this episode. I hope
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: you folks enjoyed it. I hope you folks have a
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: good Thanksgiving. I hope you would if you observe the
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: holiday and you know you have that kind of setup.
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no worries. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm sorry,
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: didn't have an exact answer for you. I'm not in
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: off season mode yet in terms of looking here's these
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: free agents, here's what the cost is, the cap space,
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: all of it. I have to like physically turn my
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: brain that way with how x's and o's and scheme
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: and structure driven. I am within the season. But yeah, oh,
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: are you saying this year I made a point to
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: watch as many Bulls games as possible that linebackers, I'm
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: not gonna say his names. I don't know how to
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: pronounce it, it's definitely legit in my eyes. Cool, good to know. Oh,
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: this is awesome, Carl. Carl says, I'm thankful that you
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: An't and your family are happy and healthy. I am
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: also thankful that our entire Buffalo Bill's team is healthy
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: and that makes us all happy. Fingers crossed that they
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: stay healthy and happy. But thank you very much for that.
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: I appreciate that for me and my family. I hope
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: you and yours are doing well also now and throughout
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: the entirety of the year and the years to come.
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: Thank you very much. That's awesome, Carl. I appreciate you that.
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: Appreciate you for that. John's or Joe saying. Next thing,
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: I'm thankful for Dwayne Carter returning and reaching his potential.
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, I just think his potential is
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: like a rotational body, which isn't bad. Yeah, I don't
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: think too highly and Dwayne Carter right now, but we'll see,
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: you never know, it's still early, even though it's also
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: kind of not because of his age and how much
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: he's played, and I think his ceiling is kind of
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: it is what it is, but we'll see, we'll see
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: fingers crossed and hope for mister Dwayne Carter. You never know.
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: He's got a good head on his shoulders, works really hard,
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: says and does all the right stuff. We'll see, well,
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: will see Jason saying ant's crushing dreams. Sorry, John saying,
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: is so if the Bills can't get a bye, is
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: that when they will rest everyone? They're going to need
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: everyone healthy as possible. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see if
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: they can't get a bye, if they only lie up
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: the two, if it's the two or the three or
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: something else. There's so much I don't want to say
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: anything in JINX anything, but I think there's so much
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: left to be decided with where they settle in, where
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: they fall in from a seed perspective, and then just
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: you know, bumps and bruises behind the scenes that we
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: don't know about that they potentially want to inner. So yeah,
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: we will, we will kind of see. Yeah, I'm sorry
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: Jason saying an crushing dreams right before the holidays. Yep,
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: it's me dream holiday dream crusher. That's me. Appreciate you, Troy,
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: I see that nice common think came through. Uh, thank
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: you very much. Nice from Ralph saying Happy Thanksgiving to
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: the mafia. Now let's carve up the Niners goal bills. Yeah,
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: enjoy your the rest of your Tuesday night, Enjoy the
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: rest of your holiday week. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: Enjoy the food, the family, the football. Not great Bears Lions,
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: which I think would be fun because Kayleb Williams still
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: does some fun things and the Bears do some fun things.
- 1:30:47Speaker 1: The afternoon game sucks, Cowboys Giants, both those teams are brutal,
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: Dolphins Packers Thursday night which could be kind of fun,
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: and then some really great college football going over the
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: weekend and some NFL stuff as well, So I'm excited
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: for that. I appreciate the kind words from you. R
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: J saying I'm thankful for yourself and and Cover one
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: the Discord Chat, the show Chats. Hope everyone has a
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving. Joe saying, dream to crush Ratio is hi. Yeah.
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: One Pie is known for their great cheese, the saucer Ratio.
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: I am known for the dream to crush Ratio. That
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: is me, Jayson says, and is both my dream and
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: my crush. I like that I live in the light
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: and the shadows bit of both worlds. Yeah, Enjoy the
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: rest of your night, Enjoy the rest of your week,
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: Enjoy the holiday, enjoy the weekend, anything and everything in between.
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: As always, I hope you and your family and friends
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: and loved ones are all doing well and staying safe.
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: Be kind of one another, take care of one another.
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: I will see you tomorrow for another episode of the
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: Cover One Film Room. If not there, I will see
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: you next week for another episode of disguise coverage. Follow
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: me on Twitter at pro Underscore, Underscore, and find me
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- 1:31:54Speaker 1: get at me and the Cover One discord, get at
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- 1:31:59Speaker 1: think that we'll do it. Go to one pie, get
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: some food, donate to toys for toks. I'll see you
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: when I see you, godspeed, and as always, go Bills.