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What kind of sentiments? | HBR Talk 317 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three seventeen. What kind of Sentiments?
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  I'm Hannah wallin here with nonsense Annihilator Lauren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike
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  Stevenson. And we've been going over the Declaration of Sentiments and we're still in
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  there. We're we're hanging in there. It's it's a kind of a slog
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  because aside from the fact that it's written in the style of the early twentieth
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  century, which is nothing like twenty first century speak. Yeah, it's it's
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  winey and bitchy too. So it's a little rough for us because we're we're
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  not very good at the whole whiny, bitchy thing, although I was doing
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  that before the show, but that's for a different reason. So so we're
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  we're going to sort of recap a little bit before we get into more of
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  this, and we'll still continue to compare it with the Declaration of Independence.
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  If we get all the way through this, we'll go back to the timeline
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  a little bit. I have the timeline right here as you can see.
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  And yes, please save to avoid losing my I didn't do anything. I
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  just opened it paranoid it's because it's a site for school teachers and you have
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  to remind them to do everything. It's really bad they complain about their students.
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  But you know, any case, before we do that, we gotta
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  do what we got to do, So let's get on with it. As
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  feed the Badger dot Com in the drop down menu at the top of the
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  page. And with that we'll get back into So last week we sort of
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  took a look at and I'll open this back up. We started took a
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  look at the fact that the Seneca Falls Convention was sort of started from one
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  perspective. It wasn't something that like women all over the country were like,
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  yeah, let's do this. A couple of women who were offended at being
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  excluded from a a emancipation convention, from an anti slavery, a world anti
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  slavery convention because they were women, decided that there needed to be this tantrum
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  by women to be included in things men were doing. So they decided to
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  plan this convention. And the main people who planned this two of them were
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  sisters. Four of them were Quakers, although one had been expelled for marrying
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  a non Quaker, but she was raised a Quaker. So there were out
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  of the five organizers, four of them were Quakers. So they all had
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  that there was not a diversity of thought there and either spelling of the word
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  thought or diversity. But in any case, it needs to be said,
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  slavery was so much better before women ruined it. Now I'm going to let
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  that quote hang in the air before you'll think of the various different avenues how
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  that would work. Of how many slaves throughout history were male and how many
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  were female. And sure they were both in they were generally used for different
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  purposes. But do we talk about the victims or do we talk about the
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  perpetrators. I mean, for the most of history, men were both.
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  When it came to slavery, they were most of the slaves and most of
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  the slave drivers. But the women came along and said, no, we
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  want to be the slave drivers. Anything else you want to volunteer yourselves for
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  ladies, No, no, I don't see any other part of equation into
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  which we could possibly fit, because we already are and always have been.
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  Women is synonymous with slave, well, no, Eastern European is synonymous with
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  slave. But we can do whatever we like with like, which we can
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  bugger about with words. All we like is slave is another word for woman.
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  Woman is another word for slave. And do you all know it's reparations
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  in the form of letting us enslave you for the rest of time. And
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  we thought you were in cell if you if you don't like it, and
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  so on and so forth. Yep, and they have done that. Like
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  there, that's actually the latest, greatest, next best way that women try
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  to shut up men who complain about real life issues that are affecting them.
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  You know, you don't like being fired from your job just to make room
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  for somebody that's less competent than you because of their demographic Oh, shut up
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  you in cell. You know you don't don't want to be raped. Shut
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  up in cell. You know you don't you don't want your wife to take
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  your children, leave the marriage and then prevent you from nurturing and caring for
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  them, but demand that you support her lifestyle after the marriage. Shut up
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  in cell, you know, like, that's that's pretty much the go to
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  answer, right, But when you don't talk about your feelings and your thoughts
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  and what you want in your life and what you're not getting in your life
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  and stuff, well, that's toxic masculinity. Women aren't to blame for that,
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  right and shut up in cell. But yeah, that's that's pretty much
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  where we are, So thanks Seneca Falls, but not to blame the location
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  of the convention obviously, And I will also point out we mentioned last week
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  there was also a very strong anti suffragette movement, and it was It wasn't
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  just a few, you know, ignorant women that didn't know how much they
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  wanted the vote, like feminists to try to portray it today. The anti
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  suffrage movement was bigger than the suffragette movement for most of the time that the
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  two existed, until it, like the suffragettes, basically pushed and pushed and
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  pushed until people started acquiescing like oh, okay, well we'll go along with
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  this, all right, this is what women want now, So this is
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  what we're women. We have to want this, right. The antis testified
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  before legislatures, published articles and newsletters, held public meetings, debated the suffragists,
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  and collected signatures to urge Congress to not give women the vote. So
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  yeah, yeah, this was This was not just like a handful of malcontents,
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  a bunch of pigmies, right that feminists talk about this. This was
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  pretty much the mainstream opinion at the time. So what we went over last
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  week pointed out starters and I can make this much bigger because it's not a
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  PDFI like the other one. The reasons cited for the declaration of independence were
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  actually much more egregious violations of human rights than the reasons cited for the declaration
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  of Sentiments. You had in in the time period, as we went over
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  in past episodes, you had a circumstance where the people in the colonies were
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  being economically squeezed to death. There their hold on the land was being not
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  just challenged but really shaken up by legislation passed by the King of England,
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  and their ability to travel, their ability to and engage in trade with each
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  other, their ability to survive where they were was in jeopardy because their their
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  time period's version of Blackrock had been given a monopoly on several of the most
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  important goods for them. It had been authorized to enforce that monopoly. Uh
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  there were law enforcement there from from Britain also to enforce that monopoly. Part
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  of the land on which had settled had been reallocated so that it was now
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  part of the province at the time of Canada instead of the colonies you know
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  of the Americas, So it was it was actually completely different territory which created
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  issues of separation legally for families and such. So they really, they really
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  were you know, they had just been through a war that they didn't really
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  want anything to do with. The French and Indian war spilled over into the
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  colonies and there was a lot of fighting that took place there, but the
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  colonists really didn't have a dog in that fight other than they didn't want to
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  die, and so they were sort of dragged into that against their will and
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  it left them already dealing with hardship because of that, and then on top
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  of that, English and started taxing them to pay for it. So they
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  they really had a lot of reasons why they decided, and the worst part
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  was they couldn't just send delegates to parliament, you know, to participate in
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  the parliamentary system in Britain, because everything happening in Britain happened too quickly for
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  delegates to get there from across the ocean, So their delegates would have arrived
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  after the fact and had nothing to say about it at that point because they
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  wouldn't have you know, we're talking about a time period where travel was you
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  sail on a ship across the ocean, you ride horse and carriage across the
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  country, you know, none none of this flying there, none of this,
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  you know. And sailing was much slower and much more dangerous than it
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  is today as well. Even the pirates were more dangerous, even though you
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  know, people think of pirates as something that happened in history. You don't
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  sail in the wrong part of the world today, or you'll discover that's not
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  the case at all. They're just not they're different. We'll just say that
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  you won't run into the black pearl, but there you go. So that's
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  that's the situation that the colonists were dealing with, right, So they were
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  complaining that the king was pretty much ruling over them while excluding them from having
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  any input, no representation, that he didn't even allow his governors to handle
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  local affairs, that he had removed the right of due process in terms of
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  if you are accused of a crime, you're presumed guilty unless proven innocent,
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  you're tried under a not navy maritime law instead of under the law of the
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  land, and so you're dealing with a complete lack of due process. Dissolved
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  their representative houses, so he's basically made it impossible for them to have any
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  autonomy at all in the colonies. And that's what they were upset about.
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  Complete lack of autonomy, complete lack of ability to survive economically, and an
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  impressive situation in terms of their ability to survive factually. Because of those two
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  common combined things, and I will point out, there wasn't a reciprocal Well,
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  these people are responsible for you. They're going to take care of you,
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  and they'll give you the food you need, the shelter you need,
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  the clothing you need, the safety that you need. They weren't protected like
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  women were under coverture. It was basically a rock and a hard place,
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  you know, closing in on either side of the colonists, and the colonists
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  was like, we're like, fuck you, we're not doing this all right,
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  We're gonna fight about it, and here's here's the fight. Right.
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  So that's where we that's where we ended up last week. Meanwhile, the
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  suffragette's complaints essentially were that coverture, which made the husband responsible wholly responsible for
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  the welfare of the wife, limited the wife in ways that were necessary in
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  order for the husband to uphold those duties. You can't take responsibility for someone
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  and be obligated to ensure they don't break the law to ensure or they have
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  everything they need to ensure any property they own is not mismanaged, and so
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  on, if you don't have control over those things legally. So they complained
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  that history has repeatedly injured and usurped women on the part of man by establishing
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  an absolute tyranny over women. Mind you, women didn't have to get married.
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  A woman could not be forced into marriage at this point in time,
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  a tyranny that kept them fed and clothed and housed and safe and warm in
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  the wintertime. And really, and he couldn't even make her do the housework,
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  like if he tried to use force. And this is something somebody tried
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  to dispute this in last week's Last week's show, we might go over those
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  comments. But Wikipedia, the non source of non sources, the blog of
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  Encyclopedias. Sorry, I have more disdain for Wikipedia than I do for people's
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  rando medium blogs. You know, it's just it's pathetic. But Wikipedia talks
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  about the fact that in some court cases, judges not looking at actual law
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  and not ruling on anything to do with domestic violence. In the moment cited
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  a non existent legal standard. The rule of thumb. The rule of thumb
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  is not and never has been a legal standard. Uh. It was debunked
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  by more than one person. Christina Hoff Summers is probably the one that's most
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  well known for it. But if you look at the unknown history of miss
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  injury, miss Andrey uh got to knty. His name, Robert Esteff,
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  I think is the owner of that blog. Uh. He has put up
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  news articles after news article after news article that show that our society has always
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  had a response to domestic violence. That that made it very clear that it
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  was illegal for men to engage in domestic violence against women. Not necessarily true
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  the other way around. Yeah, my my microphone is not doing so well.
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  Huh, Well, part of it might just be me. But let
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  me see if I've got it turned down again. No, it's not turned
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  down. Yeah, I hear you. Fine, I wonder what's going on
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  there. We'll fix see if we can fix it a little bit. I've
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  turned it up to maximum volume. That's as high as I can get it
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  to go. So sorry if it's not loud and well, and every so
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  often Obs tells me that I've clipped like it goes all the way up into
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  the red and just hovers there for a second. So I don't know if
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  it's doing that, if it's if that's coming across or not. But it
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  looks really bad from my end, so I might it might be about time
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  for me to replace this. I've had this for a long time. I've
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  had it for so long that it no longer even has the little cushy parts
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  on it, like those are gone completely. I recorded my first I want
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  to say, I recorded one of my earliest HBr talk openers with this microphone,
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  this headset, So that should tell you something. Anyway, Yeah,
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  we were at women. Women didn't have that situation. But yeah, so
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  we read the first several of these already never permitted her to exercise her inalienable
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  right to the elective franchise. So it's inalienable right. Everybody has the right
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  to vote, but women at that point in time, right, No,
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  no, no, no, most most people when women started fighting for the
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  right to vote in the United States, most people did not have the right
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  to vote. Bity that was not white was pretty much excluded. Some people,
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  even if they immigrated, even if their parents had immigrated and they were
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  born here, could not be citizens because of their race. And I'm not
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  even just talking about people who had been enslaved, right, I'm talking about
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  people who had who came here voluntarily and worked could not be citizens because of
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  their race. People who were here before a single white person set foot in
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  most of the country couldn't couldn't vote, couldn't be citizens, couldn't vote until
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  the next century, actually, when women started agitating for suffrage. Uh So,
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  the the idea that this was inalienable at the time that was not a
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  thing was held from her rights which are given to the most ignorant and degraded
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  men, both natives and foreigners. We talked about that too. There are
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  several rights that were denied to both natives and foreigners that were allocated to women.
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  Oh I remember I, miss I stopped in the middle of talking about
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  that rule of thumb. I would recommend if anybody has any doubts about that.
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  We put out a production a while back during the Johnny Depp case.
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  The title of it is something like why Johnny Depp can't ever clear his name
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  as a man? And that's that's I believe. On the Honey Badger radio
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  channel, not the live streams channel, it might be on the live streams
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  channel, but it's in the videos section, not the live streams section.
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  It's about forty five minutes long, and it thoroughly debunks the claim that our
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  society ever tolerated domestic violence against women. It doesn't, you know, debunk
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  the claim that that our society tolerated domestic violence against men. Our society did
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  not. Forever, it did not penalize women for engaging in domestic violence against
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  men. Guess who got penalizy if that happened. The men themselves got palized.
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  Yes see, they had a specific name. I forgot what it is.
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  Where they bashed the pots and pans, the Skimmington ride Skimmington Right,
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  So if a man beat his wife, the village would actually come and get
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  him, take him out, drag him around town, put him on a
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  dog, write him around backwards, beat him, make fun of him,
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  you know, call him, call him everything but late for dinner, and
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  then return him to her, still able to do whatever he did for a
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  living. Right. If a woman beat her husband, they did exactly the
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  same thing to him. Thankfully, things have changed nowadays and men don't get
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  subjected to ritualistic state punishment. For being abused by their domestic partners. Heaven
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  forfend that such a thing would take place. But it's the government doing it
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  now. When it was the villagers doing it, it was barbaric. But
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  now that someone's been appointed to do it, and not by banging on pots
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  and pans, but by dragging away the already bloodied corpse of a man,
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  well cut corps, the already bloody body of a man, throwing him in
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  the back of a police car and letting him just live with his kidney damage
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  for the next twenty four hours in a cell. Yeah. Well, now
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  what they do is take his getting bloodied body and post it all over social
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  media and gain you know, ye clicks and you know, dopamine hits for
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  all the clicks and life that they'll get, you know, and the you
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  go girls. Yeah, And meanwhile, people are still pushing this rule of
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  thumb thing as you were talking about earlier. You don't even you don't even
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  need to go to a haughty sauce to debunk that. Even Wikipedia, and
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  I know normally Wikipedia is is not the place to go for reliable facts,
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  but that's because they're so biased in favor of whatever the communist revolution is doing
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  right now, but it includes and always has included man, bad, woman
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  weak. But even Wikipedia will will fill you in on how this idea that
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  the rule of thumb was about a stick no one in your thumb that you
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  could use to be your wife. And if even the platforms that are as
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  determined as possible to get away with with with lying for the cause of feminism,
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  even if they can't get away with it, even if the people who
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  are able to rewrite history at a moment's notice at a whim, even if
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  they can't get away with this lie that ought to tell you that it's among
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  the least substantiated of feminist lies. And that's saying something yep. Because Wikipedia.
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  Wikipedia is crowdsourced in a weird way. It goes against what every other
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  reliable source of information you as its means of determining what is fact versus what
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  is not fact. So, for instance, if if we held a conference
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  and filmed it, which we have done, and our video showed a sequence
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  of events at the conference that demonstrated exactly what happened there, and you could
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  tell there wasn't anything left out that you know, we didn't film or whatever,
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  and then news media reported that something else happened that wasn't on the video
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  that would have been shown if it had happened, they would accept that news
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  report, but since the video is a primary source, they wouldn't. They
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  wouldn't accept that right. You can go into court as a witness, and
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  your witness statement is taken to be the truth unless it's proved otherwise. But
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  if you write your autobiography and someone else writes a news article that is just
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  completely fabricated about your life, that news article is given more credibility than your
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  autobiography. So if you get diagnosed with something and you put that in your
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  autobiography, I was diagnosed with condition X, and the article writer says,
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  well, no such condition ever existed, even if it does, or this
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  individual was never diagnosed, has never been to a doctor and just completely lied
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  about that, but they have no proof in the article. They definitely accept
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  that article, but not your autobiography. Wikipedia is crap in my book.
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  I have no respect for it and I don't accept it as a source.
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  When I was an educator, didn't accept it as a source, and I
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  won't accept it as a source in an argument either. You better find something
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  else besides Wikipedia. I try to avoid referring to it in any of my
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  work. I'll go investigate the sources cited by the people who have written Wikipedia
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  articles to see if I can find the information that they're claiming they found.
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  And I will say this too, there have been many times when I've taken
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  a Wikipedia article about something gone through the sources, looked for the information that
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  they're citing from those sources, or citing those sources as a source for It's
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  not there. It doesn't say that, And in a few instances it's said
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  the opposite, and it's been pretty obvious that the writer of the Wikipedia article
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  just didn't understand what they read. So don't you know, it's if you're
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  looking up what a particular drug does or what a particular scientific formula is about,
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  and stuff like that chemical formula is about. Okay, you know that's
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  you're probably going to get decent information on that because the people that do those
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  articles don't have a political agenda and they're usually not stupid. But don't trust
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  anything you read on Wikipedia that is governed by the social sciences. So uh,
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  non humaran humanitarian anti feminism. If you have questions about the badger cave.
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  You got to ask Allison. I don't have anything to do with that.
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  I'm in Ohio, So just just so you know, we are in
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  Saskatchewan, Ohio, Connecticut, London. I can't remember what community Brian moved
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  to, but he's in Virginia. We have people in Arizona. We've got
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  I don't remember what community Karen's from, but she's from a different part of
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  Canada than Alison is from. So we're not We're in different places. Non
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  humanitarian, anti feminism. The question was not for the audience, Like,
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  that's bullshit. No one, no one believes that you wouldn't be in our
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  chat asking a question to a group of people that are not actually part of
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  the organization about what the organization is doing. Like, have at least a
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  little bit of decency if you're going to troll, Like, have at least
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  a little bit of intelligence behind your trolling. Just just saying that, I
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  stay a little bit left out because I can't answer the chat right now.
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  Yeah, Yeah, this guy is an idiot asking the audience if the audience
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  is paying rent on the Badger cave like that, Like it kind of indicates
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  that the guy doesn't know what he's talking about a lot of our audience doesn't
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  give us a dime. Most of our audience doesn't give us a dime,
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  like and that's fine, that's not that's not the point. Oh okay,
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  I see that explains that. So you've lost your mind. So all right,
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  Well in that case, I think we're pretty much done, because that's
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  that's like arguing with somebody who's in a mental health institution, except they've gotten
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  out and are on on YouTube making comments instead. Yeah, there's no point
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  in arguing with people like that because they come here with presuppositions and you know
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  you're not going to change their minds. And you know that's fine, come
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  here and trol Hey, come, just click the light button on the way
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  in or out, please, thank you. Sure you know it's well and
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  like case in point, he just asked a question I already answered. So
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  that's that's that tells you where the conversation is going to go if I continue.
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  So there we go back to the suffragettes and back to the question of
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  you know, did they have any real feminism. We're still looking, we're
• 33:34
  still looking in this document for the real feminism which we haven't seen. And
• 33:43
  remember we're told that miss andry is not real feminism is not real feminism.
• 33:52
  Real feminine feminism has never been tried before. Hannah. That's it. Real
• 33:55
  feminism is about equality, but real feminism has never been tried the rule of
• 34:00
  feminism. Please stand up. That's died. So we are told that we
• 34:16
  went over a couple of things here. Uh, women have no voice in
• 34:21
  the formation of the laws that that they're compelled to submit to, except the
• 34:27
  women's Christian Temperance movement proved otherwise. They not only got a law passed,
• 34:37
  they got an amendment to the Constitution past that was so bad that it created
• 34:45
  a new thing in the United States that had not previously existed, organized crime
• 34:52
  around that that was organized around the trade of illicit substances. Is like the
• 35:01
  drug trade that we are dealing with today. Wasn't the problem. The alcohol
• 35:08
  trade preceded it, and that trade started. The illicit alcohol trade started as
• 35:17
  a result of the passage of the eighteenth Amendment, which was which was of
• 35:24
  course the Temperance Amendment. So there you go. You know, women,
• 35:30
  women have no voice, no power, no influence, got an amendment to
• 35:36
  the Constitution that was so bad it had to be repealed later passed with no
• 35:45
  voice and no power, no influence. Oh the humidity, where's my fainting
• 35:51
  coach? Just useless, just useless, worthless. I tell you nothing's just
• 35:58
  absolutely nothing. Write them off to the drugs of history. Ye with you?
• 36:04
  Women? Then we debunked also the fact that women in the eye of
• 36:12
  the law were civilly dead because wives could sue their husbands for non support.
• 36:17
  They could sue for their husbands for not having sex with them, right,
• 36:25
  they could. They could actually take you to court for that. Right.
• 36:30
  They could divorce their husbands for abuse or adultery, and they could collect on
• 36:37
  that the claim that he made her morally and irresponsible. Being as she can
• 36:45
  commit many crimes with impunity, provided they be done in the presence of her
• 36:49
  husband. Again, you have every right to not commit crimes even if the
• 36:55
  court, the law, the police, the government, whatever does nothing to
• 37:00
  you for it. Just because you are able to do something doesn't mean you're
• 37:07
  obligated to do it. Is somebody. All of these legal labyrinths only really
• 37:15
  applied to the top whatever percent of women up to and including the time this
• 37:22
  was written like a hundred years ago. Yeah, yeah, And for the
• 37:30
  longest. Wait, what was I saying just now? Oh, the top
• 37:36
  echelons like, for instance, oh yeah, yeah. And when you call
• 37:40
  out the posh rich women for what they're saying, posh with rich women weren't
• 37:45
  able to do and you say, actually, posh prop posh rich women were
• 37:51
  able to do this, they then pivots, so, well, what about
• 37:54
  the working class women, or at least they should, according to the communist
• 37:58
  principles, they should. That areund to say, well, what about the
• 38:01
  women who couldn't afford all of these luxuries? What about the working class women
• 38:06
  and their husbands? Well, they got along with each other. I know
• 38:10
  that sound's hard to believe, but but the men and women who had to
• 38:16
  get along with each other did throughout most of human history. It was it
• 38:22
  was left up to the to the frumpy wenches in the frocks in the late
• 38:30
  eighteen hundreds to start arguing and splitting hairs about the few things that the top
• 38:40
  one percent of men can do, but the top one percent of women ruggle
• 38:46
  to do, not can't do, but can do and struggle to do.
• 38:51
  And and yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll keep on their avenue
• 38:55
  of argument and until you actually point out that this was all just posh people
• 39:02
  arguing with each other. And because posh people are kind of more drawn to
• 39:07
  victim mentality because they have time to waste on that sort of thing, you
• 39:16
  start to realize that this was all arguing about how many fairies can dance on
• 39:22
  the head of a pin. Well, for the most part, men and
• 39:27
  women were getting along with each other as and when they had to, And
• 39:30
  it's not that difficult if we could follow the example of the men and women
• 39:37
  who did get along with each other for the vast majority of human history,
• 39:42
  rather than following the example of frumpy pinched faced wenches from one hundred years ago,
• 39:50
  for whom the top one percent was just not enough because men exist,
• 39:54
  it's all And I cannot express this enough, so tiresome yep. One of
• 40:07
  the things that that interests me about the way women divided in history, you
• 40:13
  had middle The middle class was kind of small throughout most of history. There
• 40:19
  weren't very many people that fit into it because you had to have sort of
• 40:22
  a Goldilocks position of having maybe a little bit of property or being in a
• 40:30
  position where you are in charge of property in order to get there, or
• 40:36
  you had to have enough of an education to get paid well for what you
• 40:42
  did, but not so much that you uh, you got paid the way
• 40:46
  that say a legislator or a doctor might get paid today. And you know,
• 40:53
  you you your level of success once you hit a certain point would increase
• 41:00
  just on the basis of you know, once you had that success, you
• 41:04
  might write about it. People were much more skilled about that historically, and
• 41:08
  you might ether have other things. You'd be more in demand because that level
• 41:13
  of skill wasn't exactly common at the time, So you ended up at a
• 41:20
  higher level of success than the middle class. So you had this division between
• 41:23
  women who everything they ever wanted that existed during their time was paid for by
• 41:32
  their husbands or else and because their husbands were rich, if they didn't spoil
• 41:39
  them rotten and the woman did sue for non support, a judge would consider
• 41:45
  that, well, he could afford it, so he should do it for
• 41:50
  her. Whereas then you had the women who were impoverished living with within a
• 41:58
  family where everybody worked, including children as young as four and five years old,
• 42:05
  and they didn't have time to worry about that shit. Right if their
• 42:12
  property, which might be the pittance they earned in the workplace wasn't communally handled
• 42:20
  in the family by their husband who did all the budgeting, probably with them
• 42:24
  overseeing it. Their family would starve. So there wasn't this governance so much
• 42:35
  by men as there was a combined set of resources as a result of need.
• 42:45
  Women that did that. They're the ones that looked at the women,
• 42:50
  going, well, we need voting rights and went, why our husbands are
• 42:54
  doing their best for us. Our husbands are taking care of us. What
• 42:59
  are you so upset about. Are you upset because you didn't get enough silk
• 43:02
  dresses this year? You know, I'm sorry, but I'm busy helping to
• 43:07
  support my family. So you had this Newts versus the Rednecks, I guess,
• 43:15
  and they really didn't. They didn't have time to worry about this shit.
• 43:20
  But yeah, the response that we got in the chat regarding the so
• 43:29
  called rule of thumb was in response to this one at the top. Here
• 43:34
  he had the right to administer chastisement. Right now, Historically, marriage was
• 43:43
  not created by the government. Marriage was created by the church, and historically
• 43:50
  the church had a hierarchy of who's in charge of the household, and it
• 43:53
  actually went along with how marriage evolved It didn't evolve out of two people loving
• 44:00
  each other and choosing to be together as a tradition. It evolved out of
• 44:07
  families arranging for their kids when they got old enough to marry, to marry
• 44:15
  each other in order to form a stronger union between two families so that they
• 44:22
  would be stronger than the surrounding families. It evolved out of feudal systems and
• 44:29
  pre feudal systems where it was tribe against tribe and family against family, and
• 44:37
  there was economic competition, and then there was also violent competition between families.
• 44:44
  So marriage wasn't just a matter of Gosh, I think this person is awesome,
• 44:49
  I want to be with them for the rest of my life. It
• 44:51
  was this family has a lot of cows, and this family has a lot
• 44:57
  of land. We should combine, and we have a lot of financial power
• 45:05
  and can hire mercenaries to defend our land and our cows and will be wealthy.
• 45:10
  Like That's how marriage evolved. Now, aside from that, you just
• 45:15
  had people that would shack up and have kids together. If they were from
• 45:22
  more along the lines of the peasantry, maybe a marriage would be arranged here
• 45:27
  and there in order for a man to ensure that his daughter was well taken
• 45:34
  care of by somebody who he knew was going to be financially stable. Right,
• 45:40
  But there wasn't something that people invented to prove their love to each other.
• 45:51
  So this part is where we think stopped last week. He has so
• 45:55
  framed the laws of divorce as to what shall be the proper causes of divorce
• 46:01
  in case of separation, to whom the guardianship of children shall be given as
• 46:07
  to be wholly regardless of the happiness of the woman, the law in all
• 46:12
  cases going upon a false supposition of the supremacy of man and giving all power
• 46:16
  into his hands. So, in other words, the Suffragettes didn't say divorce
• 46:25
  is too hard or divorce screws up the family and men can leave with impunity.
• 46:35
  No, it was divorce laws don't consider women's happiness, Yeah, exactly,
• 46:44
  and right right, And I'm sorry, but you know your happiness doesn't
• 46:49
  come first when there's children involved. That should be the first and foremost obvious
• 46:55
  to anyone involved. Right, So no, I'm sorry. You don't have
• 47:00
  to like it. Nobody likes it when a marriage breaks up, well,
• 47:06
  unless you know it's a particularly unhappy marriage. You know. But no,
• 47:13
  your whims, your wishes don't exist anymore, you know what I mean.
• 47:19
  Your happiness is no longer a part of the equation. And that's the problem.
• 47:23
  This is the problem with today's women, right because you know, you
• 47:30
  have these kids, and you think that it's just gonna be all perfect in
• 47:34
  sunshine and rainbows, and it's just not. But your happiness is not the
• 47:39
  most important thing here. It's about your children. And women have lost the
• 47:45
  focus there, right, Like your happiness be damned. I mean, my
• 47:53
  god, I'm not happy. Well, duh. Point, the point at
• 48:00
  which you have a child is the point at which someone else's happiness is more
• 48:07
  important than yours, or should be, or at least yeah, I mean,
• 48:12
  I don't want to put these things in hierarchies, but a child cannot
• 48:16
  attain its own happiness, So a child cannot look after itself, so someone
• 48:21
  else has to, so it has to be you. So at that point,
• 48:24
  happiness is not the point. It is. Dare I say, the
• 48:29
  well being of the child? Now, as this thritten, it was many
• 48:32
  generations before we got the legal sentence the well being of the child, but
• 48:39
  later on that was used for the same ends as what was being described in
• 48:45
  this creed as the happiness of the woman. But I say that as though
• 48:51
  there's a difference. What family cause nowadays describe as the well being of the
• 48:58
  child means functionally exactly the same thing as the happiness of the woman, because
• 49:04
  a lot of studies have been done into how single father families are nowhere near
• 49:09
  as as bad predictors of weightwardness as as as single mother families, not that
• 49:20
  either should exist. I mean, obviously the best predictor of of of a
• 49:25
  productive and happy life is the on hand presence of both parents. And this
• 49:34
  this, this, this is why why it annoys me that men's rights advocates
• 49:37
  are seen as the opposite of feminists. I am going to read the last
• 49:42
  sentence we just read, but with the genders reversed. He has so framed
• 49:47
  the laws of divorce as to what shall be the proper causes of divorce in
• 49:52
  cases separation, to whom the guardianship of the children should be given, as
• 49:57
  to be wholly regardless of the happiness of the men, The law in all
• 50:02
  cases going upon a false supposition of the supremacy of woman and giving all power
• 50:07
  into her hands. Now this does sound like an uncannily accurate description of family
• 50:15
  courts in the modern day. But I know I know of no men's rights
• 50:20
  advocate who would frame it around the happiness of the men. And I've been
• 50:27
  doing this for fucking ten years. I don't know anyone who says, no,
• 50:30
  what we should do with the children should revolve around the happiness of the
• 50:35
  men. Like No one, like no m ra, no maked out,
• 50:39
  no pua has the goal to say the fate of a child should depend on
• 50:47
  the happiness of a man. Nobody ever, It's always actually been the benefit
• 50:54
  of the child, and the child deserves both parents. At no point as
• 51:00
  it resembled this, this guynocentric pish that we are currently reading, and this
• 51:09
  is and this is what we what we've been up against for the last century
• 51:15
  and some change. So fuck off with you. You guys are just the
• 51:19
  equivalent feminists. Fuck offah, right off, fuck to the ends of the
• 51:23
  earth, and then fuck back and then fuck back off again. H jeez.
• 51:30
  The tough thing people don't understand is about the men's rights movement is that
• 51:36
  we have a variety of things that people in the movement do. So there
• 51:43
  are people who file lawsuits where legislation is discriminatory in order to get the courts
• 51:52
  to clarify that the legislation cannot be discriminatory. And right now there is such
• 52:00
  lawsuit in the Supreme Court in regard to the draft, with the primary hope
• 52:06
  being elimination of the draft. But if it can't be eliminated, then at
• 52:09
  the very least it can have gender taken out of it, so that if
• 52:15
  Congress wants to enact a draft, they have to contend with the fact that
• 52:20
  people will be seeing them draft their daughters. And even if they can't stop
• 52:27
  them from drafting men on the basis of how men are valued, maybe they
• 52:32
  can stop them from drafting men on the basis of how the women that will
• 52:37
  be dragged along into it are valued, until we can get a better situation
• 52:43
  where we are not drafting men because men are valued as highly as women.
• 52:50
  But in any case, there's that end of it. There are people who
• 52:54
  help to get men out of abusive relationships, help by providing shelter, some
• 53:01
  help by providing vouchers. In California, there was a lawsuit by the National
• 53:08
  Coalition for Men that pretty much forced the California system to degender its domestic violence
• 53:17
  response so that men who are trying to get out of abusive relationships can at
• 53:22
  least get a voucher to take their kids and go stay someplace, which personally,
• 53:30
  I think that's better than putting them in a shelter if there are women
• 53:35
  at the shelter, since we know that two thirds or more of domestic violence
• 53:39
  is female perpetrated, female initiated, or both, and so you end up
• 53:46
  in a situation where these men may be going into an environment with violent women
• 53:52
  who have falsely accused their partners, and they may be vulnerable to those women.
• 53:58
  So it's better if they're in a hotel or some other area. If
• 54:01
  you can't set up a shelter just for men, you definitely don't want to
• 54:07
  house them with those women, because that's that's putting them out of the frying
• 54:12
  pan into the fire right. And again that's National Coalition for Men does quite
• 54:17
  a bit. Their website is NCFM dot org, and I would encourage our
• 54:25
  listeners to go check out their page on their successes. Among other things,
• 54:30
  feminists always complaining that men are not treated seriously enough as parents because women are
• 54:42
  seen as the primary caregivers and it limits women's role. But it wasn't feminists
• 54:49
  that got changing stations put into men's bathrooms and airports in California. It was
• 54:55
  men's rights activists who did that. Because there are dads who travel with their
• 55:01
  children. There are single dads, and then there are dads who take their
• 55:07
  children to see family when the wife has to work or the wife has gone
• 55:12
  ahead because she didn't have to work, and the dad and the kids that
• 55:16
  went to school come along later. So there are different things that happen there
• 55:22
  where sometimes a dad does need to go in and change his baby in the
• 55:28
  men's restroom, doesn't want to go into the women's restroom, women will have
• 55:31
  a fit, even though women go into men's restrooms all the time. So
• 55:37
  those are some successes. Like there's a bunch of different things listed there.
• 55:40
  That's one that stood out to me because feminists claim it never happened. Well,
• 55:45
  National Coalition for Men did it. But then there's also you know,
• 55:52
  people who advocate for change, for the for moving the Overton window, which
• 55:59
  is what we're doing. We have decate for changes in social attitudes, and
• 56:02
  our advocacy over the last ten years has taken our advocacy the advocacy of a
• 56:09
  Voice for men, the advocacy of justice for men and boys. Many organizations
• 56:15
  like US has taken these issues from being in the background in little forums all
• 56:22
  over the Internet to mainstream media discussing them. And yes, mainstream media,
• 56:29
  a lot of them are trying to discredit us, a lot of them are
• 56:34
  mad at us. But we've also had some people be unable to deny the
• 56:42
  things that we've said, and we've had some advocacy from people like I still
• 56:46
  remember the October that Tucker Carlson spent on men's issues, and while he didn't
• 56:52
  get everything right and he didn't talk to everybody that he could have talked to,
• 56:57
  he did speak to some prominent men's rights activists and he did bring those
• 57:01
  issues to the forefront, and people began discussing them much more seriously after that,
• 57:07
  right, And it is because of people like us that there are people
• 57:12
  now with much bigger accounts taken a lot of heat for saying the same things
• 57:17
  we've been saying. Where we get shadow band, we get throttled, we
• 57:23
  get algorithmed out of existence. But they're under fire, and you know,
• 57:31
  maybe Chloe roma is I don't know what I think of her I was I
• 57:38
  had hope until the last thing that she said about men's rights activists, and
• 57:44
  then I was like, well, so much for that idea, right,
• 57:46
  But so I'm kind of disappointed there, but not shocked because she's female,
• 57:53
  and that's pretty typical female narcissism. Jesus si she's a sip. They're all
• 58:00
  sis. Everyone's a siap, like like like like my memory got a raised,
• 58:07
  like a total recall, and I'm like some rogue agent, like even
• 58:10
  I'm a syap. I'm meant to be here to ruin you all, but
• 58:15
  I accidentally joined you. It's like duncers. It's smurfed any any of those
• 58:22
  well known retellings of that story. Jim Bottle wants to know what what was
• 58:30
  that? Well, she pretty much said that she's the first person that ever
• 58:34
  talked about these issues publicly. She pretty much denied the existence of the entire
• 58:39
  men's rights movement because she didn't know us. I tried to find that post.
• 58:47
  I don't know where you may have taken it down, like maybe she's
• 58:51
  embarrassed. If she's embarrassed, she said that that's a good sign. It's
• 58:55
  still her saying it in the first place is still male narcissism. It just
• 59:01
  depends on how she reacts to being corrected on it. Right, If she
• 59:06
  is because I, well that was her reaction to delete it and not say
• 59:10
  anything. But she it and didn't say anything, that kind of sucks.
• 59:15
  But if if there's a point where she comes out and says, gosh,
• 59:16
  I didn't realize all these people were doing this previously. You know, I'm
• 59:23
  sorry that I stepped on you guys, or something like that, or I
• 59:27
  have a lot to learn or anything like that. That that would be good,
• 59:30
  you know, that would be a step forward. But if she doesn't
• 59:34
  do that, then you know, fuck her. Like I that I lose
• 59:37
  all respect at that point. That that's that's how I. I don't like
• 59:44
  to really necessarily call it judging people, but that's how I decide who I'm
• 59:49
  going to trust and respect in who I'm not, you know, I and
• 59:53
  I I live up to that too when I when I get information that proves
• 1:00:00
  me wrong about something like and I'll go back to probably one of my biggest
• 1:00:05
  embarrassments was on Reddit. Back in my Reddit days, I thought that November
• 1:00:14
  was similar to those silly Facebook campaigns where women will post some cryptic statement,
• 1:00:22
  like the color of their bra, but they don't say what it's the color
• 1:00:25
  of. They just post pink or green or whatever. And then you're supposed
• 1:00:31
  to ask what the post is about, and then they tell you it's about
• 1:00:35
  raising awareness for breast cancer. And now you know breast cancer is a thing
• 1:00:40
  because you didn't before, Right. I think that's diptionary at it at its
• 1:00:46
  worst, it's it's not even slacktivism. It doesn't do anything because everybody already
• 1:00:52
  knows about breast cancer, and everybody already knows all of the information that we're
• 1:00:58
  supposed to know in regard to breast care. Answer what we're supposed to do,
• 1:01:00
  and blah blah blah. People are already donating. Millions of dollars are
• 1:01:05
  raised every year. It's a huge industry. Right. So when you post
• 1:01:08
  the color of your bra on Facebook and and then people ask you about it
• 1:01:15
  and you say that's what it's for, it's just virtue signaling. It has
• 1:01:20
  no value, right. November started out as a an initiative to raise money
• 1:01:29
  to actually help research on testicular and prostate cancers, and it was a it
• 1:01:38
  was a good initiative when it started out. It was great, and it's
• 1:01:45
  it's stayed good for a long time, but it now has started to fund
• 1:01:54
  organizations that accept the Toxic Masculinity narrative for treatment of men's mental health conditions.
• 1:02:04
  So it's like I would you know, I wouldn't promote it today, but
• 1:02:12
  at the time that I like, I made fun of it because I thought
• 1:02:15
  it was the same thing as the Facebook thing, and I had a whole
• 1:02:20
  bunch of people tell me otherwise, and you know, of course, my
• 1:02:23
  response was to investigate, find out what November actually did, how it worked,
• 1:02:32
  and once that information, you know, was in my repertoire of information,
• 1:02:38
  I came back and I was like, wow, this is totally different.
• 1:02:40
  I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was such a worthwhile endeavor and went
• 1:02:46
  on to promote it every year until the last couple of years when it started
• 1:02:52
  to you know, get I now just suggest people look at organizations selves that
• 1:03:00
  are doing the research and donate directly. You don't have to go through an
• 1:03:04
  organization that's collecting for them. You know, you can find out who they're
• 1:03:09
  donating to and judge for yourself, and it's probably a better way to deal
• 1:03:14
  with it. Uh. Than you know, not saying that you can't grow
• 1:03:17
  mustache in November or anything like that. But there you go. So with
• 1:03:25
  that out of the way, Yeah, back to the divorce thing. Feminists
• 1:03:31
  got what they wanted in regard to divorce, and what has been the result.
• 1:03:38
  Are women happier? Because according to all of the surveys that measure women's
• 1:03:47
  happiness today, no, women are not happier. More women are single moms.
• 1:03:54
  Many of them are single moms by choice. They're not ever getting married.
• 1:04:00
  They didn't choose to to uh, have a baby with a guy that
• 1:04:05
  they were going to marry. They chose to have a baby with a guy
• 1:04:08
  they weren't going to marry. Many of them are single moms by choice because
• 1:04:12
  they got married, they had kids, and then they got divorced. And
• 1:04:15
  many of them are getting divorced because they just don't feel it anymore. They're
• 1:04:19
  not happy in the marriage, they're bored. They want him to do the
• 1:04:25
  dishes more often. You know the shit that that you know, if you
• 1:04:30
  read the articles, they say that, you know, if men do housework
• 1:04:34
  that it turns women off. So what is it, ladies? Do you
• 1:04:41
  what? We know what it is? They're just fucking lazy. They don't
• 1:04:43
  want to do the work. They want someone else to do the work.
• 1:04:46
  They don't want to have to bear the burthen of wah, my god,
• 1:04:50
  washing dishes and cooking food and oh, it's just too much. I mean,
• 1:04:57
  despite the fact that, you know, we have machines that were invented
• 1:05:02
  by men that will wash your dishes for you, that will wash your clothes
• 1:05:06
  for you, that there are machines that you can actually just put stuff in,
• 1:05:15
  right, you close the lid and you turn it on, you walk
• 1:05:17
  away, and you come back and your dinner is done. Yeah, it's
• 1:05:21
  amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. But it's not good enough. It's
• 1:05:26
  never good enough, and they can't even be bothered to do that. It's
• 1:05:30
  just unbelievable the oppression that that women have to face that, you know,
• 1:05:38
  just how do they even Yeah? Yeah, the toughest part for me is
• 1:05:44
  getting up in the morning and spending half an hour not putting on any makeup.
• 1:05:47
  Oh wait, I don't get up in the morning bed in the morning,
• 1:05:49
  So there's that whole narrative goes out the window right there, right.
• 1:05:55
  Yeah, I actually spend a couple of hours not putting on any makeup and
• 1:05:59
  not putting any product in my hair, and not using a curling iron.
• 1:06:02
  And I know it's old, so cumbersome. I just don't know how I
• 1:06:12
  managed to like, not do any of that ship and still get eight hours
• 1:06:17
  of sleep. Oh my god, yep, I don't. I don't ever
• 1:06:24
  lay still for eight hours. If I do something's wrong, My my limits
• 1:06:30
  about six. Yeah, I think we've learned on it. My body will
• 1:06:35
  shut down. It's just when it's done, it's done. There's no uh.
• 1:06:44
  Mine wakes up screaming for this long, get out of it. Move
• 1:06:50
  and then I then I get up and and all of my joints are yelling.
• 1:06:55
  Okay exactly. But that's that's I've been an old lady for fifty years.
• 1:07:02
  So but yeah, it's this thing I like. I oh, I'm
• 1:07:09
  sorry, but I just don't. I don't see it. I don't see
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  how this benefited them in any way, shape or form. And and I
• 1:07:15
  don't see how this was about equality, because at no point did feminists launching
• 1:07:24
  from this part of the Declaration of Sentiments advocate for equal division of property following
• 1:07:31
  a divorce, equal division of custody following a divorce, equal culpability for behavior
• 1:07:40
  such as emotional abuse, right, financial abuse, violent abuse, equal culpability
• 1:07:50
  for cheating. No, no, they fought for women to get out of
• 1:07:57
  culpability during divorce, for abandonment, for emotional abuse, for denial of sex,
• 1:08:04
  which is emotional abuse. Also for economic abuse, running up a shitload
• 1:08:11
  of debt in his name, for cheating, like just any kind of you
• 1:08:17
  can you can do pretty much anything to a man as a woman, and
• 1:08:24
  he can't use it against you in the divorce, right, But if you're
• 1:08:30
  not happy and he's not making you happy, you can use that against him
• 1:08:34
  in the divorce. How is that equality? How is that anywhere near equality?
• 1:08:42
  How is it even slightly fair? Buelerta, What do you mean fair
• 1:08:56
  speech? Is this? Yeah? Yep. So one of the things that
• 1:09:03
  men's rights activists have been fighting for that feminists are panicked as fuck over,
• 1:09:10
  and they've been panicked for years was custody rights for men. Right feminists went
• 1:09:16
  through opposing. They called it joint custody back in the seventies. Joint custody
• 1:09:25
  was maternal custody with paternal visitation rights, except that the visitation rights were also
• 1:09:32
  called custody, so that when the child was visiting with the father, the
• 1:09:36
  child was considered to be in the father's custody. The child the father had
• 1:09:41
  custody during that time period. And the big change was if little Billy fell
• 1:09:47
  and cut his knee on the steps and needed stitches, Dad could take Billy
• 1:09:53
  to the hospital and sign paperwork and Billy could get those stitches without mom having
• 1:09:57
  to show up and sign paperwork. Right, Dad could go into school and
• 1:10:00
  see Billy's report card and any other information the teacher was keeping and so on,
• 1:10:08
  and be in on the parent teacher conferences and wasn't left out of everything.
• 1:10:14
  But he still only got maybe two weekends a month, and if he
• 1:10:18
  was lucky, another extra six hours in the evenings a couple of days a
• 1:10:23
  week total if he was lucky. In the divorce, right, so it
• 1:10:30
  was still not it was joint custody, but it wasn't really, but feminists
• 1:10:35
  started citing that as well, men have custody of their children. Right immediately
• 1:10:44
  we started hearing about how men don't have custody because they don't fight for it.
• 1:10:46
  Well, what men were getting as custody was, yeah, every other
• 1:10:50
  weekend, you get your kids you know sixteen percent of the time totally helps
• 1:10:59
  you know to parent your child when you see them sixteen percent of the time.
• 1:11:05
  So then men fought for shared parenting, which shared parenting was joint custody
• 1:11:14
  with maybe a few more additional legal rights for the father and maybe slightly more
• 1:11:19
  expanded amount of time, still not half the time, and feminists fought that
• 1:11:27
  they opposed that. Feminist organizations like the National Organization for Women used the claim
• 1:11:36
  that making first joint custody and then shared parenting the default in divorce cases.
• 1:11:45
  So basically, if neither party said, well, we want something different than
• 1:11:48
  what it says in the paperwork, automatically, if we don't edit it,
• 1:11:55
  then this is what it's going to say like, then they fought having that
• 1:12:00
  be the default by saying that it would force judges against their will to put
• 1:12:09
  children in abuse of homes, even though all the judge had to do was
• 1:12:15
  rule one parent unfit or dangerous to the child, and they could put the
• 1:12:20
  child any other home and limit the custody and access of the parent that they
• 1:12:27
  felt was unfit. Right, so there was no force, So feminists basically
• 1:12:33
  lied, but it worked. It delayed the adoption of joint custody laws around
• 1:12:40
  the country, and then it delayed the adoption of shared parenting laws around the
• 1:12:44
  country. And when men's rights activists, fathers rights activists in particular started fighting
• 1:12:47
  for equally shared parenting laws where fifty to fifty shared parenting would become the default
• 1:12:55
  and the divorce the the default divorce papers that you know, you basically just
• 1:13:03
  if if you don't dispute anything in it, you print out what the court
• 1:13:10
  system offers and you read it over and you sign it. That's your divorce,
• 1:13:15
  like says the child will be with the parent. Parent A this many
• 1:13:20
  days and parent B this many days, back and forth, and again.
• 1:13:27
  The laws that were passed and the laws that were introduced, the bills that
• 1:13:31
  were introduced all said that this would be the default in cases that were uncontested.
• 1:13:40
  So when neither parent was saying no, I want something different, and
• 1:13:44
  when the parents didn't agree to something different. You know, so, for
• 1:13:48
  instance, if you live in California and you're getting divorced, and he's going
• 1:13:54
  to go live with his family in northern California and she's going to go live
• 1:13:58
  with her family in southern California, trading the child off every four days is
• 1:14:02
  a bit of an inconvenience. So if it's it's Ohio's fifty to fifty shared
• 1:14:09
  parenting agreement used to be every four days, I think it's every seven days
• 1:14:13
  now, so it allows the child to spend a week with each parent.
• 1:14:16
  The trade off can happen on the weekends. But yeah, that that was
• 1:14:25
  also opposed by feminists, claiming that, oh, it'll force judges to put
• 1:14:30
  children in homes with abusive men. Not abusive mothers and fathers, but abusive
• 1:14:34
  fathers. Even though most child abuse is female perpetrated and most parental child abuse
• 1:14:45
  is done by the mother and approximately seventy percent about two thirds of children killed
• 1:14:55
  by one parent acting alone or killed by their mother. But you know,
• 1:15:00
  the father is the only one should be worried about, right, And that's
• 1:15:05
  how that's how feminists have handled divorce in the last one hundred years. And
• 1:15:10
  that's why we are in a situation now where a lot of children are being
• 1:15:14
  raised in poverty without their fathers and man deserts, circumstances where they have no
• 1:15:19
  male influence in their lives whatsoever, and circumstances where they have have economic distress
• 1:15:30
  they have bad learning environment, they learn what feminists would call toxic masculinity,
• 1:15:39
  which is basically they don't grow up right because toxic masculinity, so called toxic
• 1:15:45
  masculinity is just acting like a child of either sex. But yeah, you
• 1:15:54
  know it's it's men's fault that divorce is bad. Right, So after divide,
• 1:16:04
  depriving her of all rights as a married woman, if single and the
• 1:16:08
  owner of property, he has taxed her to support a government which recognizes her
• 1:16:12
  only winter property can be made profitable to it. That's not a female problem.
• 1:16:20
  I hate to say this again, I've said this several times throughout everything
• 1:16:27
  they're complaining about was true for most of the men in the country. This
• 1:16:42
  in any case, I'm not going to argue that when the government taxes you
• 1:16:45
  for your labor, you absolutely should complain about it. Yes, yeah,
• 1:16:50
  I agree with that, But yeah, people often supply all these sorts of
• 1:16:57
  arguments. Like some time ago, there was there was some gun and guy
• 1:17:04
  who was surprised to learn that he wasn't a British citizen because after living in
• 1:17:09
  Britain for forty years, he attempted to procure some kind of services from the
• 1:17:16
  government and they were like, but you're not a British citizen. So we
• 1:17:19
  were not the papers, and it was in the papers for a full cycle
• 1:17:25
  and a half of of people saying, well, I had had Surely this
• 1:17:32
  man should should get the advantages of being in this country if he is in
• 1:17:40
  this country, and well, not not necessarily, And once again I forgot
• 1:17:46
  where I was going with this. But well, the big question is was
• 1:17:49
  he being taxed for those services? Taxes? That's the thing. Yes,
• 1:17:55
  And it always comes down to, yes, this man should not be taxed
• 1:17:59
  if he's notting the benefit of taxes, and yeah, you're you're absolutely right.
• 1:18:03
  No one should be taxed if they're not getting the benefit of of of
• 1:18:08
  what taxes are supposed to be doing to benefit us. And whenever you start
• 1:18:14
  an argument like that is it should always come down to no, Yeah,
• 1:18:16
  no one's getting the benefits. Yeah, no one's really getting there of what
• 1:18:21
  the government says they're doing with taxes. Because you all know this, but
• 1:18:28
  now I'm preaching to the quiet. The government doesn't tax us for our own
• 1:18:32
  benefit. They tax us for their own benefit or its own benefit. I
• 1:18:38
  don't know what the correct pronouns are for a government it's either it's either it's
• 1:18:44
  either it or they. It is certainly not we. Yeah, I have
• 1:18:48
  some terminology in mind, but it's not appropriate for YouTube. But I'll put
• 1:18:56
  it this way. I'll put it this way. Right, if taxes were
• 1:19:01
  spent the way pro taxation people claim they should be spent, right, I
• 1:19:11
  wouldn't be as mad as I am. I at least would have not just
• 1:19:19
  had to spend two weeks recovering from driving halfway across the country in a jeep,
• 1:19:26
  because the roads in most of the country would not have been so bad
• 1:19:30
  that it felt like I was driving on legos. But there you go.
• 1:19:41
  If we actually got the benefit of what we were paying for, the war
• 1:19:46
  in Afghanistan would not have lasted as long as it had lasted, and the
• 1:19:51
  wind would have been decisive. It wouldn't have just not happened. It would
• 1:19:58
  have happened, and it would have been completely unreversible. Yeah. People think
• 1:20:09
  that the sentiment I expressed about Israel versus Palestine was unique to Israel versus Palestine.
• 1:20:16
  No, it's applicable to that too. Right. If you have a
• 1:20:20
  little kid coming up to you and punching you over and over again, and
• 1:20:26
  you do nothing about it, or what you do about it is insufficient to
• 1:20:30
  stop the kid from continuing to punch you. And you let it go on
• 1:20:33
  for years and years and years. It's your fault. If you could put
• 1:20:41
  a stop to it and you don't, it's your fault. And I think
• 1:20:44
  that's what happened here. And I won't say that about our soldiers per se,
• 1:20:48
  but about our government. Absolutely that the whole conflict in Afghanistan can be
• 1:20:58
  blamed on the govern in the United States. So I'm not a big fan
• 1:21:06
  of how my tax dollars get spent. Most of how my tax got dollars
• 1:21:13
  get spent is based on lies, and even the bit that's not is it
• 1:21:20
  gets misdirected a lot. They're relying to us about pretty much everything. It's
• 1:21:26
  pretty much absolute shit. So in terms of her complaint about being taxed,
• 1:21:31
  I'm with her on the complaint about being taxed. What I am not with
• 1:21:34
  her on is the idea that it's a unique situation that women experienced and men
• 1:21:39
  didn't, because the overwhelming majority of men in the United States during that time
• 1:21:44
  were paying taxes and they weren't represented. They weren't they didn't have the vote
• 1:21:50
  right, there were still limitations that men faced. They kept them from having
• 1:21:57
  the vote, and there were women who had the vote in different states as
• 1:22:00
  they came in, So this was all bullshit. The next one, here's
• 1:22:05
  monopolized nearly all the profitable employments. What a strange way to phrase. Men
• 1:22:13
  do all of the labor to obtain and maintain resources and comfort in society.
• 1:22:23
  Do you want the profitable employments, ladies, No, you just want the
• 1:22:29
  cushy jobs at Twitter one point zero where where where you sit around? You
• 1:22:35
  lounge around computers pretending to do work, and drink wine at work eight hours
• 1:22:42
  a day and eat sushi at work and stuff. Yeah, you're very good
• 1:22:48
  at the unprofitable parts of extremely profitable businesses, ladies. And I don't I
• 1:22:58
  don't know what that says about you or anyone or anything else. But I
• 1:23:02
  mean, what would these women say if you showed them one hundred years in
• 1:23:08
  the future. Do you think you'd be able to get across how pointless all
• 1:23:15
  their efforts were. All they did was throw money and resources into a bottomless
• 1:23:19
  pit of women who want to be paid for doing essentially nothing. I imagine
• 1:23:26
  they would look at it and say it's not good enough. Yeah, we
• 1:23:30
  need to fight. There are still men making profits from removing the fat bugs
• 1:23:35
  from the sewers, and we need to figure out a way that women should
• 1:23:41
  get the money from men doing that. Women chacking light bulbs on radio towers,
• 1:23:46
  that's another one. Got to climb up fifteen hundred feet in the air
• 1:23:51
  and in the wind, in their rain, you have to change the light
• 1:23:56
  bulb that is bigger than your head. Yeah, that's a prophet that men
• 1:24:00
  are getting that women for some reason aren't getting. I can't imagine what the
• 1:24:06
  reason might be that they don't get the benefit of doing that job that they
• 1:24:11
  don't do. It's the mind boggles. Yeah, it really, It really
• 1:24:18
  gets interesting when you start getting into the logistics of how men earn more than
• 1:24:25
  women now. Back then, yeah, there were more. There were far
• 1:24:29
  more men who were doctors. There were a few women who were doctors.
• 1:24:33
  There were I think only men working in law at that time in the United
• 1:24:39
  States. Most teachers might have also been men. At that point, there
• 1:24:45
  were at least some teachers that were women. One one is famous and had
• 1:24:53
  her own series of novels later on that she wrote that was sort of not
• 1:25:01
  made into a TV show, But a TV show was made based on the
• 1:25:06
  theme of those novels that had a few of the stories from the novels and
• 1:25:11
  the TV show, and that would be a little House on the Prairie.
• 1:25:15
  But for the most part, when it came to bringing in resources that people
• 1:25:25
  needed in the home, bringing in resources that people needed to keep themselves alive,
• 1:25:29
  men did that. Creating things to help keep people comfortable and safe.
• 1:25:33
  Men did that actually being the reason that people were comfortable and safe by going
• 1:25:42
  out and doing the things that it took to keep people comfortable and safe.
• 1:25:46
  Men did that, right, Yes, Richard Vierre, Laura Ingleswilder, she
• 1:25:53
  wasn't a teacher most of her life, but she was a teacher for a
• 1:25:56
  while. I think her sister was a teacher at a school for the blind
• 1:25:59
  for well as well, but I'm not sure. It's been a long time
• 1:26:02
  since I read those books. But but yeah, men did all of that,
• 1:26:10
  And yeah, she's she's actually bitching about the fact that women weren't doing
• 1:26:15
  that. Now here's here's where she she has a complaint that would it's it's
• 1:26:23
  just a hairshy of legitimate right and from those she is permitted to follow she
• 1:26:28
  receives but a scanty renuneration. Renuneration all right. So women who do other
• 1:26:32
  people's laundry, women who clean other people's houses, women who work in the
• 1:26:38
  bottom rungs of medicine, nurses, aids, candy stripers, even nurses back
• 1:26:44
  then were kind of bottom rung compared to doctors, midwives and such. Women
• 1:26:51
  kind of set the value of those jobs, right, because it's women who
• 1:26:57
  hire housekeepers, it's women who hire maids, it's women who hire nannies and
• 1:27:02
  tutors and so on. Women are the ones that decide what those jobs you're
• 1:27:08
  worth. And it's women who choose whether or not to take a job at
• 1:27:14
  such a wage, not men. Men don't just go out and grab a
• 1:27:21
  woman and say, Okay, you're going to come here and work in the
• 1:27:25
  coal mine, but we're going to pay you less money, and you can't
• 1:27:27
  leave. You had to do this job. You can't go get a job
• 1:27:30
  somewhere else, but we're still going to pay you less money. So I
• 1:27:36
  don't have a lot of sympathy. Women could have fixed that problem a long
• 1:27:41
  time ago. All they had to do. Men Men had their way of
• 1:27:45
  handling wage disputes, right, they organized, They created guilds, they created
• 1:27:50
  unions, they created professional organizations. Before teachers had the teachers Union, they
• 1:27:56
  had something called professional organizations. They were not guilds, they were not unions.
• 1:28:00
  They negotiated as professionals. This is what we do, this is what
• 1:28:04
  we are providing. This is the service that you're getting, and this is
• 1:28:10
  the knowledge that we bring and the expertise that we bring. This is what
• 1:28:14
  we want as compensation, and these are the rules we want applied to our
• 1:28:17
  workplace. And they didn't. They didn't treat it like a blue collar job.
• 1:28:25
  And where unions, unions are quite needed in terms of there's a significant
• 1:28:39
  loss of sight between the corporation and the individual worker in bigger work settings like
• 1:28:47
  that in factories and anything bigger than a factory, because the top dog doesn't
• 1:28:55
  really have anything to do with what the bottom grunts doing every day at work.
• 1:29:01
  So he's just looking at his books, right, he's looking at his
• 1:29:06
  bottom line. So it's up to the union to remind the boss and the
• 1:29:14
  board that the workers are people and not just little pawns that you put into
• 1:29:19
  place to do things. And then that's that's pretty much been their function throughout
• 1:29:24
  their history. There's a lot of corruption that has taken place within unions,
• 1:29:29
  especially in the United States during the twentieth century, but they're intended function and
• 1:29:35
  how they function when they're the corruption is kept out that that's actually a needed
• 1:29:42
  thing, right, and that collective bargaining men did that forever. Women could
• 1:29:47
  have done that, but instead they appealed to the government to make the employer
• 1:29:53
  pay them the same wage, whether they're doing the same work or not.
• 1:29:59
  So if I were in a company that sells three pronged widgets, I work
• 1:30:03
  at the three pronged widget store, and my colleague sells fifty thousand dollars worth
• 1:30:10
  of widgets in a year, and I sell fifty thousand dollars worth of widgets
• 1:30:14
  in a year, then it's fair for me to get paid the same as
• 1:30:15
  him, as long as our other tasks are pretty pretty much equal to you
• 1:30:19
  know, cleaning tasks are all all the other things you do in retail.
• 1:30:25
  If my colleague sells seventy thousand dollars worth of widgets in a year and I
• 1:30:29
  only sell fifty thousand dollars worth and he gets paid more than me, I
• 1:30:32
  can sue because we did the same job. And my employer then has to
• 1:30:38
  go into court and prove that there's a valid reason why he got a bonus
• 1:30:42
  and I didn't. So I create an inconvenience for my employer. What that
• 1:30:46
  does is that disincentivizes the employer to provide incentive pay to the employee to go
• 1:30:58
  above and beyond. And so everybody only sells fifty thousand three pronged widgets,
• 1:31:08
  because why would you try to sell seventy thousand if you're not going to get
• 1:31:11
  that bonus. You can't get that bonus because if the person who gets it
• 1:31:15
  isn't a woman, all the women in the company can sue and say they're
• 1:31:18
  not getting paid enough. That's what equal pay does. It's not equal pay
• 1:31:27
  for equal work. It's equal pay for the pretense. It's equal pay.
• 1:31:33
  To avoid getting sued. He closes against her all the avenues to wealth and
• 1:31:45
  distinction, which he considers most honorable to himself. As a teacher of theology,
• 1:31:51
  medicine, or law, she is not known. So I'm kinda a
• 1:31:59
  teacher theology right. As a teacher of theology, she is not known.
• 1:32:08
  That's not government. In the United States, we formed a government that doesn't
• 1:32:14
  establish a church, and that isn't governed by the church. It doesn't ruled
• 1:32:19
  by the church. So why is that even in there as a teacher of
• 1:32:24
  theology, like I could understand them complaining about medicine and law, except that
• 1:32:29
  women could go into those fields. They just didn't. But this is a
• 1:32:42
  document about voting rights. What can you vote for in an election for government
• 1:32:48
  officials that would affect whether women became teachers of theology. And someone has to
• 1:33:02
  bring up the idea that he closes her all the avenues of wealth and distinction
• 1:33:13
  the station is another thing, But he doesn't all the avenues of wealth.
• 1:33:18
  There is one particular avenue of wealth that women have enjoyed for the longest of
• 1:33:26
  times, and who still do enjoy it. Now, who are the world's
• 1:33:30
  richest divorces. They are all women. They are all women. I mean,
• 1:33:39
  nobody looks at that list. They're more interested in the top hundred men
• 1:33:45
  who are independently wealthy. One reason no one looks at the top hundred people
• 1:33:50
  who earned their fortune from divorcing someone because that would throw somewhat of a wrench
• 1:33:59
  into the narrow that there is an avenue of wealth available to women that is
• 1:34:08
  very very available to women. You basically have to encounter a man. I
• 1:34:14
  mean, your best option is to marry him for like two seconds and then
• 1:34:19
  divorceman. Go whoops, I need half of your money now, because because
• 1:34:27
  when I was married to you for two seconds just now, I was able
• 1:34:30
  to have all of your money, and now that I hate you, I
• 1:34:34
  should still be allowed to have money. And how can they have been so
• 1:34:45
  fucking sensually lied to this back in those days as they still are now.
• 1:34:50
  Oh wait, yeah, I can see how they were so blind to it
• 1:34:54
  then because they're still so blind to it now. That how many avenues there
• 1:34:59
  are for a woman to drain the wealth from a man. And when I
• 1:35:04
  say wealth, I mean labor. It might not be his own labor.
• 1:35:10
  It might be his father's labor, or his father's father's labor before that.
• 1:35:15
  But when you're extracting wealth from someone, you're extracting someone's labor, because that
• 1:35:20
  is how it works. It all it all appeared into the economy sometime a
• 1:35:28
  go from someone else's labor, and it's always a man's labor. And here's
• 1:35:32
  this bitch saying he closes all the avenues to wealth. No, this has
• 1:35:40
  never been this has always been the point of marriage, come to think of
• 1:35:45
  it, It was never just a thing based on the infatuation of romantic chivalry.
• 1:35:50
  It was always it's always based on this economical model. And you know,
• 1:35:59
  in some way is maybe maybe that is more reliable than this, this
• 1:36:04
  assurance that everyone who falls madly in love with someone else will live happily ever
• 1:36:10
  after. Yeah, that's not how relationships work. By the way relationships work.
• 1:36:16
  It's this modern romanticized here Valrickley romanticized story book that Disney has a lot
• 1:36:28
  of try and it is and it is a century gone. Yeah, you
• 1:36:32
  know what it's resulted in, right, Like if you look at how how
• 1:36:36
  dating is discussed and how dating has been discussed, like for Generation X,
• 1:36:43
  our whole lives, we've seen this in publications going back to the ones that
• 1:36:48
  were written for us as teenagers when we were when we were still in school,
• 1:36:54
  right, the hardship of dating compatibility issue, who's finding a partner,
• 1:37:01
  keeping a partner, making a partner happy, and being happy with a partner,
• 1:37:08
  right, those things there, there's whole industries set up around, uh,
• 1:37:14
  discussing this, evaluating this, you know, theorizing about this, advising
• 1:37:23
  people on it, selling people advice and selling people tools to enhance their ability
• 1:37:31
  to engage in this search for a partner that's the perfect partner, the one,
• 1:37:40
  and and then then after it's all over, there's a whole other industry
• 1:37:45
  that exists around breaking you up, helping you hurt each other, helping you
• 1:37:54
  humiliate each other right, helping you drag each other through the mud, and
• 1:38:00
  then telling you how great you are for surviving that that. Neither of those
• 1:38:09
  two industries existed when marriage was arranged. Not saying that arranged marriage has to
• 1:38:17
  be the way things go, but our species did a really shitty job of
• 1:38:26
  finding a way out of it and into something functional. We still haven't hit
• 1:38:30
  that functional stage. Like we had a period of time where it was more
• 1:38:36
  functional than it is today, but it was a lot of work. People
• 1:38:43
  don't seem to be willing to do that work today. They don't get married
• 1:38:45
  with the idea that they are dedicated to each other's welfare, that they are
• 1:38:49
  dedicated to their household, that they intentionally are are going to put effort into
• 1:38:58
  making each other happy and working together to keep their household comfortable and safe and
• 1:39:06
  enjoy each other's company and so on. Maintaining their loyalty and their interest in
• 1:39:14
  each other like that. That's not something that just happens on its own.
• 1:39:19
  You do that with your friendships. You keep in touch with each other,
• 1:39:25
  and your friendships even just sending each other memes is keeping in touch, right,
• 1:39:31
  But people don't do that in their marriages. They think it it's going
• 1:39:38
  to be happily ever after with no effort whatsoever. No, it takes the
• 1:39:42
  most work. And if you really got married with the idea of love and
• 1:39:50
  dedication to your partner, you should be geared up to do that work.
• 1:39:57
  You should be excited about it. Thinking about you go out and shop for
• 1:40:04
  groceries or something, and you spot something that your partner would really love.
• 1:40:09
  It should be exciting to bring that home because you know you're gonna make him
• 1:40:13
  happy. But people lose sight of that. They compete over well. This
• 1:40:21
  person doesn't do enough dishes, this person doesn't do enough laundry. I'm not
• 1:40:25
  bringing enough home. This person's not bringing enough home. I'm not happy,
• 1:40:29
  I'm not satisfied. We're not watching the shows I want to watch on TV.
• 1:40:31
  We're watching the shows he wants to watch on TV. But I'm not
• 1:40:35
  gonna tell him. I'm just gonna sit here and be mad, and if
• 1:40:41
  he doesn't figure it out, then he's a bad husband. Right. I
• 1:40:45
  can't tell you how many times I've run into women mad at their husband for
• 1:40:49
  something and they'll tell me all about it. Hey, oh he does this?
• 1:40:55
  He doesn't have you talked to him about it? What does he say?
• 1:40:59
  Why do not? I shouldn't have to tell him? Fuck yes,
• 1:41:01
  you have to tell him. How else is he supposed to know? But
• 1:41:09
  yeah, no, it's all about, you know, denying the woman,
• 1:41:14
  right, It's all about making things rough on the woman and dating. We
• 1:41:23
  don't teach our kids that when you're dating and you're engaging in this hookup culture
• 1:41:30
  that everybody's all into and been into for the last forty years, you're partnershopping,
• 1:41:38
  you're looking for somebody that you can be dedicated to and make a life
• 1:41:43
  with, make a home with, and cling to each other for happiness and
• 1:41:48
  solidarity and camaraderie and all of the things that come from a great relationship that
• 1:41:54
  you work at all the time. So you go, why jaded kids getting
• 1:42:01
  divorced? We have an entire industry devoted to telling women to end their relationships
• 1:42:11
  with men. It's called therapy. Yep. I mean, it's called a
• 1:42:15
  whole bunch of things, but it's it's centered around this industry of that's called
• 1:42:19
  therapy, and it is an industry. It's not an industry that produces anything.
• 1:42:26
  It's an industry that invites women and I guess some men, but mostly
• 1:42:32
  women, into a small room to convince them that the relationship they are currently
• 1:42:39
  in is toxic and that they need to do better, namely, that the
• 1:42:44
  women need to need to marry a slightly more handsome and rich rock star,
• 1:42:49
  and that the men need to go off and think about their lives and stuff
• 1:42:58
  like that. And if even if that doesn't workout, there's another billion dollar
• 1:43:02
  industry called divorce, which makes up and that's that's not just us a small
• 1:43:11
  little corner of of of legal institutions. I I did a work experience module
• 1:43:19
  in a in Manchester County court once and they gave me some options because they
• 1:43:27
  had a number of different departments, one of which was divorce and another of
• 1:43:35
  which was I can't even remember what it was. I think it was just
• 1:43:40
  ordinary county court prosecutions, just any given dispute that anyone could have. I
• 1:43:48
  think we had one of them, anybody. But yeah, any given county
• 1:43:56
  court in in in the country or or whatever. The American government of county
• 1:44:02
  court is half of that building, right, any given building you might go
• 1:44:09
  to, half of that building is devoted to divorce. Because there's so fucking
• 1:44:15
  many of them. Like it's it's it's an understatement to call it a billion
• 1:44:23
  dollar industry. It's probably a trillion dollar industry at this point. You see
• 1:44:30
  how much money is changing hands between between countries, between empires, between the
• 1:44:40
  shadiest of possible agents. Yeah, this is This is a bureaucracy of abstractions
• 1:44:47
  that has existed for a long time, and one of its biggest cash cows
• 1:44:56
  is the divorce industry. It's awful. It's I cannot even begin to describe
• 1:45:03
  it. I only saw it with my with with my naive teenage eyes for
• 1:45:10
  for a month or so be where I was like, this is this is
• 1:45:13
  awful? Why does this exist? Why would any of this need to exist?
• 1:45:17
  Why is the divorce institution m like gigantic compared with the marriage institution?
• 1:45:29
  How did that happen? Why would that happen? Why are there orders of
• 1:45:34
  magnitude more money in divorce than there is in marriage. Not not that there
• 1:45:41
  should be any money in marriage in the first place, that was never the
• 1:45:45
  point, but why is there so much money in divorce? That's a complete
• 1:45:51
  inversion of whatever should have been. What's what's going on? And I put
• 1:46:00
  it to you, gentlemen and ladies in the audience that it all started with
• 1:46:11
  man, bad woman week with this. Some call it romantic, guyna centric,
• 1:46:18
  chival ric, whatever, and I think they're all They're all along the
• 1:46:23
  lines of what's going on here. It's just difficult to name because it's been
• 1:46:28
  going on for not just half a century, but half a millennium and probably
• 1:46:35
  some change. That's why, that's why it's so difficult to get across two
• 1:46:40
  people, because it's here's me trying to talk about the way divorce courts have
• 1:46:45
  changed in the last hundred years, but it's so much deeper than that.
• 1:46:49
  It's it's that they weren't called divorce courts half a millennium ago, but there
• 1:46:58
  was an equivalent was there was. There was this whole dack of shelves put
• 1:47:05
  in place to make sure that women get whatever they want at the expense of
• 1:47:10
  anything men can be rinsed for and and here's me saying it. It started
• 1:47:20
  in medieval times, as though Gano centric romantic chivalry was the beginning of it.
• 1:47:26
  Now it's called romantic which is named after Rome. This has been going
• 1:47:30
  on for a long time. I just remember we kind of went over that,
• 1:47:33
  and it's it's not named for like, the Romantic chivalry has nothing to
• 1:47:43
  do with the Romantic storytelling of Rome. It's it's completely outside of that.
• 1:47:53
  But I'm I'm I'm trying to put I'm trying to push back this narity of
• 1:47:57
  as far as I can like because so many people think it's only happened in
• 1:48:00
  the last ten years. This week, this woke thing only began in twenty
• 1:48:05
  sixteen. Now, we did an episode on this. We talked about the
• 1:48:12
  rise of Romantic chivalry and that school of Gin of centrism, where it was
• 1:48:21
  actual gain of centrism and not focus on the child rearing value of women,
• 1:48:28
  but just women for their own sake, going back to I think it was
• 1:48:32
  the thirteenth century. So we're looking at something that's been going on for almost
• 1:48:43
  Yeah, just it's eight hundred years. It's been eight hundred years. This
• 1:48:47
  is crazy. At the very least. Yeah, give me a number and
• 1:48:53
  I'll tell you it's a bigger number. Yeah, probably, And I mean
• 1:48:57
  that interest has existed among women for sure, Prior to that. Women have
• 1:49:04
  had that sense of entitlement prior to that, at least in the upper Chuliz.
• 1:49:08
  This is a remember, it began among the French aristocracy, not commoners.
• 1:49:17
  So that tells you a lot about You didn't see women with their you
• 1:49:24
  know, their arms up to the elbows in the river washing their clothes,
• 1:49:29
  talking about how it's important for a man to kneel when he's asking for a
• 1:49:33
  woman's hand in marriage. That was That was courtisans and princesses and so on.
• 1:49:45
  But but yeah, in eighteen thirty seven, Oberlin College opened its doors
• 1:49:59
  to all students, including women and people of color, which they didn't call
• 1:50:02
  people of color back then because that dip chitary that it's different to say people
• 1:50:09
  of color than colored people or black or whatever didn't exist in the nineteenth century.
• 1:50:17
  But that's eighteen thirty seven, right. And then in eighteen forty eight,
• 1:50:30
  so eleven years later, the Declaration of Sentiments was written in which Elizabeth
• 1:50:35
  Katie Stanton says he has denied her the facilities for obtaining a thorough education,
• 1:50:45
  all colleges being closed against her. So Oberlin College was open to women for
• 1:50:54
  eleven years. When she wrote that women also could enroll at Wesleyan College,
• 1:51:02
  there are are, there were other women's colleges back in the day that they
• 1:51:08
  could enroll at an enroll in, and even before that there were women who
• 1:51:16
  enrolled in colleges and and earned degrees. There were different barriers. It was
• 1:51:27
  assumed that they were never going to do the job. It was assumed that
• 1:51:30
  they weren't going to be able to perform at the way a man performs in
• 1:51:38
  the profession. Or in the case of Elena Lucrezia Cornario, oh that's not
• 1:51:47
  our last name. Elena Lucrezia Cornario Piscopia enrolled at the University of Padua to
• 1:51:57
  study theology. She impressed her instructors, excelled at public debate, you know,
• 1:52:05
  applied for her degree, and the Catholic Church intervened because that's their purview,
• 1:52:15
  right, not the government Catholic Church. Now, back then, the
• 1:52:19
  Catholic Church had influence on her government to a much higher degree than it does
• 1:52:27
  today. But at the same time, you know, it's still not man
• 1:52:34
  closing all avenues of education. She had the education, she didn't get the
• 1:52:40
  degree, and so she didn't she didn't become a higher up in the church.
• 1:52:49
  However, she did get her PhD In philosophy and she became a professor.
• 1:53:00
  So there you have capability of getting a degree anyway, So women could
• 1:53:09
  actually attend university, women could actually get degrees, and in fact, in
• 1:53:20
  eighteen sixty two, Mary Jane Patterson became the first black woman to earn a
• 1:53:25
  bachelor's By nineteen hundred and one to three black professionals in US held a degree
• 1:53:30
  from Oberlin. So you had women, you had minorities. Everybody could attend
• 1:53:39
  as long as they could do the work, and they did. So this
• 1:53:44
  was just bullshit. Denied her the facilities for obtaining a thorough education. No,
• 1:53:47
  she she could have gone to school she wanted to. So let's see
• 1:53:56
  we have he allows her in the church as well as state, but in
• 1:53:59
  a sub co ordinate position, claiming apostolic authority for her exclusion from the ministry
• 1:54:04
  and with some exceptions, from any public participation in the affairs of the church.
• 1:54:10
  So this has to be about the Catholic Church. Because women held positions
• 1:54:15
  in other churches. In fact, one of the women that was part of
• 1:54:21
  organizing this the conference at which this was read out, was a Quaker minister.
• 1:54:39
  So I'm assuming the church has to be referring to the Catholic Church,
• 1:54:42
  because lots of churches had different ways of doing things, and there were female
• 1:54:46
  preachers, female ministers in Protestant churches. Going way back has created false public
• 1:55:00
  sentiment by giving to the world a different code of morals for men and women,
• 1:55:04
  by which moral delinquencies which exclude women from society are not only tolerated,
• 1:55:11
  but deemed of little account in man. This is one that I dispute on
• 1:55:16
  one basis. I don't think men made that decision. I think women did
• 1:55:21
  right. Women are the ones with the finer sensibilities argument. You can't cuss
• 1:55:28
  in front of me because I have finer sensibilities. You can't treat a lady
• 1:55:30
  that way because I have finer sensibilities. You have to walk on the street
• 1:55:35
  side in case somebody splashes through a puddle because I have finer sensibilities. You
• 1:55:41
  can't show me the harsh side of life because I have finer fucking sensibilities.
• 1:55:45
  Right, And you can't acknowledge when I don't live up to them because I
• 1:55:53
  am a lady. But you know, when men are just around other men,
• 1:56:01
  they're not that picky. And it's women had the luxury and tolerance in
• 1:56:10
  society of being that picky. Men didn't because they were the ones doing the
• 1:56:17
  dirty jobs. They were the ones fighting in the wars. They were the
• 1:56:23
  ones facing bad weather, going out and bringing the animals in, going out
• 1:56:29
  and fixing the roof. They were the ones dealing with everything about life that
• 1:56:33
  is ugly and nasty and mean and hard and gross, everything that doesn't have
• 1:56:41
  to do with the ugly, nasty, mean, hard and gross part of
• 1:56:45
  birth and babies. Right, So maybe their sensibilities aren't finer. So what?
• 1:57:00
  And the other thing is, you know, if a man conceives a
• 1:57:03
  child out of wedlock, he is still not incapacitated. You might not even
• 1:57:12
  know unless she tells him, the mother tells him. But he's not incapacitated.
• 1:57:18
  He's not prevented from doing what it takes to support that family. If
• 1:57:27
  a woman conceives a child out of wedlock, she is incapacitated to a degree
• 1:57:32
  for part of the nine months that she's pregnant. Childbirth could kill her.
• 1:57:38
  Back then, it was a little more common than it is now, and
• 1:57:43
  it actually does put her in a situation where she's created a mouse to feed
• 1:57:50
  that she is not equipped to feed on her own. She turns to the
• 1:57:58
  community, and the community helps her, so she costs the community resources.
• 1:58:04
  So it is fair to judge women more harshly for that than it is to
• 1:58:09
  than than to judge men. Women are more there, they have reason to
• 1:58:15
  be more aware of the consequences, and they have reason to be more careful
• 1:58:20
  about the consequences. And we'll stop at this next one. He has usurped
• 1:58:33
  the prerogative of Jehovah, hits himself, claiming it as his right to assign
• 1:58:39
  for her spear of action when that belongs to her conscience and her God.
• 1:58:45
  You're really going to appeal to Jehovah. Apparently, you're gonna find some weird
• 1:58:53
  shit you might look, I might not like. I don't think she read
• 1:58:58
  a Bible in any given established religion. You're going to find some weird shit
• 1:59:03
  you don't like, some weird shit that people have figured out after thousands of
• 1:59:08
  years of trying to deal with your bullshit. Bitch, Well, you think
• 1:59:15
  about it, all right, The idea that a woman should obey her husband
• 1:59:21
  comes straight out of the Bible. So this idea that she's objecting to comes
• 1:59:30
  straight from the comes straight from the source that she wanted to go to directly
• 1:59:40
  with her conscience. The rules about how women should act. That all the
• 1:59:48
  stuff that she's objecting to in terms of society's morals where women are concerned versus
• 1:59:56
  where men are concerned, those are those are right out of the religion that
• 2:00:00
  she's claiming men keep women from being in charge of. Even the idea that
• 2:00:05
  women should not be teachers right out of there. Doesn't say women shouldn't be
• 2:00:14
  judges. But yeah, she's really failing to understand the religion that she's criticizing,
• 2:00:25
  or at least that she's criticizing the administration of by men. They're just
• 2:00:30
  doing what it says in the instruction manual. Like I said, it's not
• 2:00:36
  just Christianity, it's any given religion, any given system of ideas that's been
• 2:00:44
  has been around for thousands of years. Yeah, the Will has some kind
• 2:00:48
  of subclause they you know, men and women are different. Be it yin
• 2:00:58
  or yan, or be it father son in Holy Spirit, or whatever,
• 2:01:02
  there's a creation myth like Adam and Eve. So sort of briefly outlining,
• 2:01:11
  uh, you know, do be careful because because women could be presented with
• 2:01:18
  the garden of Eden, and then then they'll be like, yeah, it's
• 2:01:23
  not enough, Oh is it? Why can't I have Why can't I have
• 2:01:28
  that fruit over there? Yep. Well, even if you look at religions
• 2:01:35
  that are more that brag more about gender balance, I can't say they are
• 2:01:42
  more gender balance necessarily, but they brag more about gender balance, like more
• 2:01:45
  modern religions like Wicca, and I call Wika a modern religion because it's not
• 2:01:50
  the ancient version of witchcraft that existed pre Christianity. In in Paganism also had
• 2:01:59
  some of those rules, right, but you just don't like to look at
• 2:02:02
  them. So wickans Wickans decided to everything had to be mirrored, right,
• 2:02:09
  Lord and lady, God and goddess, you know, and and and the
• 2:02:13
  elements. And you have various representatives of the masculine and feminine throughout all of
• 2:02:20
  your rituals. But if you are in an environment where you're surrounded by mostly
• 2:02:29
  wickens, the goddess gets greatly emphasized over the God and he sort of goes
• 2:02:34
  and sits in a corner over there and is quiet and doesn't interrupt the women.
• 2:02:42
  Right. That's that's pretty much the way pagan gatherings are run. It's
• 2:02:49
  pretty much the way you know, like it's it's it's it's an afterthought.
• 2:02:54
  It's goddess, godess, God as God has goddess. Oh yes, and
• 2:02:57
  God, we're balanced. No, you're not. You're a hairshy dianic wicca,
• 2:03:03
  which is pretty much goddess without the God. So like I and I
• 2:03:11
  I know there are people who are going to be pissed off at me for
• 2:03:13
  saying that, because I've got friends who are wicking h and I've maintained all
• 2:03:17
  my old friendships. But it's true. It's not more balanced. It's just
• 2:03:26
  a backlash to this and in a lot of ways. So there you go.
• 2:03:32
  It's uh, there isn't a religion you can turn to to appeal to
• 2:03:42
  for egalitarianism. It's something that you have to do yourself because that's a personal
• 2:03:48
  attitude. It's not something someone else can dictate to you. The only thing
• 2:03:55
  that you can The only place where it can be dictated is in law,
• 2:03:58
  and the only way that it can be dictated in law is. However the
• 2:04:02
  laws are written, they must be applied evenly across demographics and not discriminate against
• 2:04:11
  one demographic for the benefit of another. So we have let's see superchows.
• 2:04:21
  Meyarth g gave us five dollars and said, HBr talk for seventeen honey for
• 2:04:26
  the Badgers. Sorry, I'm late. I've been on vacation. Well,
• 2:04:28
  you're lucky, and we can forgive that. Vacation is a good reason to
• 2:04:31
  be late on vacation too. I'm too busy enjoying my life to give a
• 2:04:41
  shit about all of this apocalypse, but I'm trying. I'm technically not on
• 2:04:46
  vacation, but I haven't worked in retail now for ten years, so I
• 2:04:50
  feel like I'm on vacation. Everybody who works in retail or has worked in
• 2:04:57
  retail knows what I'm talking about. I'm doing another job full time, I'm
• 2:05:01
  working overtime, and I'm doing a second job, and I still feel like
• 2:05:04
  I'm on vacation because I'm not working in retail anymore. Richard Beier gave us
• 2:05:10
  five dollars and said, funny, how you don't hear women complaining about the
• 2:05:15
  household chores in the carrying for her multiple cats through though too. Where does
• 2:05:20
  having the premium sports package on your cable subscription fall under the denial of sex
• 2:05:26
  front? Oh yes, the football widows right, super Bowl widows? Oh
• 2:05:30
  my god, I don't have his attention twenty four to seven because for this
• 2:05:35
  many hours on this weekend, he's busy watching TV and I'm not watching it
• 2:05:42
  with him. And it has to be said, if you don't like women
• 2:05:47
  having cats, and why do you have dogs? And maybe I should leave
• 2:05:53
  it there, like, maybe all of these things are substitutes for the children
• 2:06:00
  to be having. And I say that as someone who there's no interest in
• 2:06:02
  having children, but I have no interest in replacing those children with dogs or
• 2:06:09
  cats. Like, there's a lot of people who have children and dogs or
• 2:06:15
  cats, so it's not necessary, it's not necessarily a replacement for anything.
• 2:06:19
  But when I was twelve, I had pet rats. I broke the doctor.
• 2:06:30
  I do not like rats. I don't understand anyone who does like rats.
• 2:06:35
  They have horrible, creepy, tiny hands they like they have they're human
• 2:06:43
  hands, but they're tiny and sharp, they're awful, and they do bite
• 2:06:46
  you. Don't let Karen tell you that rats won't bite you unless you intimidate
• 2:06:54
  them. That is not true. I've been there. I've had a housemate
• 2:06:58
  who enjoyed pet rats, and one of them just crawled on my shoulder and
• 2:07:02
  I just froze. I was like, Okay, if I do nothing,
• 2:07:08
  then it's not gonna bite me on the air lobe. If I just sit
• 2:07:11
  here and do nothing, it's not gonna be Oh it beat me on the
• 2:07:13
  arlbe fucking rats will do that. They'll they'll bite for no fucking reason.
• 2:07:19
  I just if you just stood there in completely stationary, they can tell when
• 2:07:25
  you're acting, when you're afraid, you're gonna do are you going to do?
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  The dog person thinks they can smell your fear. It's not there.
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  They smell it, smelled your fear and they attacked you, so you deserved
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  it. This is like that when you freeze like that, that that's intimidating
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  because to an animal that size, someone your size freezing is preparing to attack.
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  Oh come on, this is exactly the same thing. It doesn't say.
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  It doesn't make it. You're doing something bad, but it's not without
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  reason. It's animals have instincts, and I wouldn't I wouldn't hold her at
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  if I was afraid of one. We had a lady that came into my
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  house when I was that age. My mom was on city council. We
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  had a one of her co councilmen wasn't really very nice to her. It's
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  kind of like the whole frenemy thing. And she tried to fake cozy up
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  to me, like, you know, oh, isn't that cute you have
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  a pet rat. No, I was annoyed. You know. If I
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  if I'd realized what was going to happen to the rat, I wouldn't have
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  done this, because I'm sure she was traumatized in the end, although they
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  can fall from quite a height and not get injured. But uh, I
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  held it up, you know, I held her up, and she's looking
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  and she held her hand out even though you could tell she really did not
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  want to touch this animal. And my my pet rat climbed up onto her
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  shoulder, you know, sniffed her hair a little little bit, and she
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  did the same thing. She froze. Well, the rat didn't bite her.
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  She tried to escape, but this was a big woman, and so
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  she dove in between the plymouth rocks into the little hole in the cleavage that's
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  created when they are so big that they can't completely squish each other and got
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  stuck upside down, and this poor woman practically had a seizure trying to get
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  this rat out of her dress. It was at the time it seemed kind
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  of, you know, funny, but in the moment, you know,
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  I was a little kid. Was not little. I was twelve, but
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  I was immature enough to find the trauma of the moment hilarious. And she
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  jumped up and down and flapped her arms around and screamed and everything. And
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  the rat goes shooting straight down onto the floor and ran away. And it
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  took me hours to find her hiding in a little corner underneath a chair,
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  still shaking. So like, if you don't like handling animals, you shouldn't
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  handle animals. It's the same thing I say to people. They're people that
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  never wanted to have kids, but they have. They get they conceive a
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  child, and they raise the child, and they treat the child badly,
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  and then they're shocked when the child turns out to have dysfunctionality as an adult.
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  If you don't want to raise children, don't conceive a child. If
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  you don't want to raise pets, don't get a pet if you don't like
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  the idea of pets. Don't try to force an interaction that is going to
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  be uncomfortable for you in the animal, because all you end up doing is
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  making yourself vulnerable. When the animal acts like an animal with instincts, doesn't
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  mean it's your fault. The animal behave that way, just like it's not
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  your fault if you get raped because you hang out with criminals. But if
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  you don't hang out with those criminals, then you're not vulnerable to them,
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  are you. So don't hang around with rats as the model of the sorry
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  unless you like them. They're literally rats. Consider consider the Aesop's fable of
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  the Frog and the Scorpion. It works for almost any animal, Like they
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  don't care about you, folks. You can you can cage them in whatever
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  sized cage you want, and you can say, oh, this animal is
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  my friend. It treats me like an equal, Like I treat it,
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  treat it as an equal while I keep it in a cage, and like
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  that's fine. Yeah, I don't think rats you're your friend. I think
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  they're fun and entertaining, But that's about as far as I could go.
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  You can have an affection for them because they're cute, but I don't know
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  that their little brains have I don't think the concept of friendship is a possibility
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  for them. You should try and have relationships with humans, folks, Like
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  I know, we all love cats and dogs and rodents and snakes or whatever,
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  but that should be a last resort in the event that you have some
• 2:12:20
  kind of condition that prevents you from being able to interact with humans. But
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  I my first instinct would be to question this appraisal of yours that you're unable
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  to interact with and articulate your thoughts with humans before you decide to get a
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  pet that you keep under lock and key and tell yourself that it is your
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  friend. I would recommend seeing if you could do that with humans whom you
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  don't have to keep in a cage. And I've off so many people right
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  now, and I'm not even sorry, but you know that we're seeing all
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  sorts of symptoms these days. Yeah, I think people need to be more
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  realistic about their relationship to animals. And once upon a time, we used
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  to we used to be a lot more realistic about that. Most of our
• 2:13:22
  animals were recognized as work animals, right, and uh, nowadays you look
• 2:13:30
  at it and people people carry their dog around in their purse, and now
• 2:13:35
  they're not recognizing the difference between their purse puppy and their child, which is
• 2:13:41
  why we have toddlers and tiaras, and we have toddlers and underwear that tucks
• 2:13:50
  it in, so everybody thinks you're a girl. Like that's what it leads
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  to. But I don't know, Like if I was, you know,
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  my husband and I ever moved out of this city and into the country where
• 2:14:05
  we have, you know, not so many people close to us, we
• 2:14:11
  would probably have a guard dog, you know, just just because there's a
• 2:14:16
  different situation out there. The cops are not like two minutes away, so
• 2:14:24
  that would be that would be a practical thing, right. If we had
• 2:14:28
  a farm, it would definitely have seventeen cats, but they would live in
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  the barn. I would urge you all to I would urge you all to
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  make friends with the humans in your local environment. Now this is obviously not
• 2:14:43
  advice that I'm gonna that depends on your local environment. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:14:50
  I in my life belongs to the interinet now, so I never talked to
• 2:14:56
  the locals in my local are of Little England, and I'm not going to
• 2:15:03
  even give anyone any hints as to where it is I live. But yeah,
• 2:15:11
  I mostly interact with humans, so I don't. I don't have to
• 2:15:16
  subject myself to those rules. The humans I interact with are in countries three
• 2:15:24
  thousand miles away. So yeah, I get it. You're all going,
• 2:15:28
  well, you don't even interact with humans properly. Yeah, I guess I
• 2:15:31
  don't. I interact with humans on the other end of a system of microphones
• 2:15:39
  that extends across the world, and I consider that better than pretending that I'm
• 2:15:48
  interacting with dogs and cats and that's you know, and that's you know.
• 2:15:52
  That's not necessarily much better that I interact with humans three thousand miles away other
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  than interacting with humans in my local area. But I only do that because
• 2:16:05
  I don't want any human in my local area to figure out that I'm doctor
• 2:16:09
  random Acam and that I'm a threat to women everywhere and stuff like that.
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  I'm weird. I'm lucky that I've found a niche in which I can exist
• 2:16:22
  and be this weird. But for anyone else who's listening, humans are better
• 2:16:28
  than animals, like humans are the best animal if you are a human.
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  I know that sounds I don't know why that sounds controversial, but it apparently
• 2:16:41
  does. I know a lot of you think dogs are better than humans.
• 2:16:46
  I know a lot of you think cats are better than humans, and in
• 2:16:48
  some ways they are in terms of their ability to see things and jump on
• 2:16:56
  things. But also they do not create a government and aren't taxing each other.
• 2:17:01
  Yes, there is, yeah, but at the end of the day,
• 2:17:05
  humans are your best friends. I know, I know this is hard
• 2:17:09
  for so many people. This This came up during the man versus bear things,
• 2:17:18
  but so many, so many women said they were they would prefer a
• 2:17:20
  bear to a man. And I'm here trying to argue this with men who
• 2:17:26
  would rather spend time with a dog than a man. Do you see how
• 2:17:31
  you see how that connects to things? Add the one of the first really
• 2:17:39
  memorable things that happened to me during my childhood, In fact, so memorable
• 2:17:45
  that despite most people not forming memories from that early in life, I remember
• 2:17:50
  parts of it. Was a near death experience from an asthma attack, and
• 2:17:58
  the the reason I survived it had absolutely nothing to do with animals. In
• 2:18:03
  fact, an animal probably contributed to it because we had a cat and I
• 2:18:09
  had an allergy we didn't know about. But I lived because my dad drove
• 2:18:16
  like an ambulance driver he had been an ambulance driver while he was in high
• 2:18:22
  school and college, and because a police officer saw him driving a regular car
• 2:18:30
  as though it were an ambulance, pulled up beside him when he didn't pull
• 2:18:33
  over for the flashing lights, looked inside the car and saw the blue faced
• 2:18:39
  kid, and then motioned him forward, went around him and led us through
• 2:18:45
  Lima, Ohio, through every traffic light, just pausing a little bit ahead
• 2:18:52
  of us before we went through the intersection to run his lights and sirens and
• 2:18:58
  make sure that nobody crashed in to us as we were on our way to
• 2:19:01
  the hospital, and then reached into the car when we got there and pulled
• 2:19:05
  my mom and me out together so that we could we could get me into
• 2:19:09
  the hospital for treatment about five minutes before I would have been dead if it
• 2:19:13
  had taken us any longer to get there. So yeah, people are pretty
• 2:19:20
  cool, even though there are some people that are assholes. I would much
• 2:19:24
  rather have had a person come along in particular cop in that moment than any
• 2:19:31
  animal in the world. Dolphins would never do that, do that. Dolphins
• 2:19:37
  will though, rape yout it death exactly like I've been traumatized ever since I
• 2:19:43
  learned that. Like humans will save dolphins from a dire situation, humans will
• 2:19:52
  save happy burros from a dire situation. Kapu bars will not save humans from
• 2:19:58
  a dire situation, is it No, kapy bars are like large rats in
• 2:20:05
  the animals. Well, actually then they would eat you if you were dead.
• 2:20:09
  They might and that and that is and that is the point the the
• 2:20:16
  the effort that you put into saving other animals, those other animals will not
• 2:20:20
  put into saving you in that sense. Yes, humans are better than other
• 2:20:24
  animals because they can understand the future. They can save other animals from extinction.
• 2:20:31
  Yes, they can cause the extinction of other animals, and that's very
• 2:20:35
  unfortunate. But doken other animals. There are many bird species that have been
• 2:20:41
  wiped out entirely by a single cat specimen, because cats don't don't give a
• 2:20:48
  ship if they're if they're wiping out an entire species. Humans do wipe out
• 2:20:54
  entire species, but they give a ship and they try not to. Yeah,
• 2:20:58
  and and somehow is you know, still exist, damn it. But
• 2:21:01
  in any case, we're so far into the weeds. And I will point
• 2:21:05
  out, you know, the the memory that i'd explained about the uh,
• 2:21:13
  the primary people who helped me in that situation, even though you know it
• 2:21:18
  was my mom's knowledge that set set them in motion, were men. So
• 2:21:26
  that's just something to think about as well. And mom mom knew what to
• 2:21:31
  do. Uh, Dad and the police officer both took immediate action. So
• 2:21:37
  there you go. Men rule, women rule, men and women together.
• 2:21:41
  Yep. And and that's how men and women work together. We will continue
• 2:21:48
  with this next week, and uh we should we should finish I think the
• 2:21:54
  Declaration of Sentiments next week. Yeah, we will finish the Declaration of Sentiments
• 2:22:01
  next week, and we'll look a little bit more at the timeline for what's
• 2:22:05
  going on. Then. Interesting thing is at this point we're before the Civil
• 2:22:11
  War in the United States. There is stuff going on in Canada and Australia,
• 2:22:15
  but they're both not countries yet. There are still territories of England,
• 2:22:20
  and so there's a lot of changes taking place. There's a lot of little
• 2:22:24
  buttons to push on that timeline. I know, because I put them all
• 2:22:28
  there, so we will we'll pick up then from from here then, but
• 2:22:41
  going on, let's see, we have a super chat. Albert Nada Retro
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  gave us five dollars Canadian and said that radio towers are ay eight and twenty
• 2:22:54
  feet and somebody has to change those lights at the top sometime. I guarantee
• 2:22:58
  you it's never been a woman, even if if one wanted to. And
• 2:23:01
  yeah, I liked to climb everything in sight when I was younger, probably
• 2:23:05
  would have applied for that job. Probably wasn't strong enough to carry the gear
• 2:23:11
  because I look at those guys when they're doing that job. They got a
• 2:23:13
  bunch of stuff hooked onto them and everything. So I probably would not have
• 2:23:20
  qualified, but I would have loved being up that high for all of the
• 2:23:24
  five minutes it took for me to freeze my ass off. Then I might
• 2:23:28
  have complained about it a bit, but I didn't do that job. I
• 2:23:33
  photographed sports for my local newspaper during that time period. And let's see if
• 2:23:39
  we got any other ones, because that was way way back, and there's
• 2:23:43
  been quite a lot of comments since then. Scrolling and scrolling and that's it,
• 2:23:52
  So no more super chats. The last comment I see is Dick,
• 2:24:00
  which belongs in the show for sure, and no super or rumble rants done
• 2:24:09
  with the superchowse. So thanks everybody for listening, both to the the topic
• 2:24:16
  and the rants at the end. Thanks to my two co hosts for sticking
• 2:24:22
  out this has turned out to be kind of a long sausage. Thanks to
• 2:24:24
  everybody who works in the background to make HBr Talk happen. Remember to check
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  us out on Badger Feed and remember to feed the badger and good idol.
• 2:24:37
  Thank you Dick,