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The Late Debate | 18 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late General, welcome the Late Base. Thanks for joining us
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  Speaker 1: on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Free Leitch and Joe Hildebrand coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. The star of Snow White blames anti Semitism
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  Speaker 2: for the movie's flop, and to be sure, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of anti Semitism around the world, but is she
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  Speaker 2: right to blame it in this instance? Plus, a new
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  Speaker 2: South Wales surfer survives a shark attack, as scientists and
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  Speaker 2: politicians continue to push for shark nets to be removed
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  Speaker 2: from our beaches. I would have thought keeping swimmers safe
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  Speaker 2: is more important than protecting a few dolphins and turtles.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that shortly.
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  Speaker 2: And an illegal migrant employed as a truck driver kills
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  Speaker 2: three people in a shocking highway accident. We'll show you
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  Speaker 2: the footage and ask how on Earth can an illegal
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  Speaker 2: migrant get a driver's license in the first place. But first,
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  Speaker 2: the latest News poll has given us a peek into
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  Speaker 2: the Australian psyche, and it's not particularly flattering. According to
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  Speaker 2: the survey, Australians believe Donald Trump's tarerffs are a bigger
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  Speaker 2: threat to our nation than Jijingping's military ambitions. Asked which
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  Speaker 2: was the major concern, forty two percent said US tariffs,
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  Speaker 2: compared to thirty seven percent who said Chinese tanks. So
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  Speaker 2: we fear a modest hit to our US exports more
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  Speaker 2: than we fear warships circling our coastline.
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  Speaker 1: That's quite something.
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  Speaker 2: China's been running military drills that look suspiciously like invasion rehearsals.
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  Speaker 2: But we're clutching our pearls over the prospect of Trump
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  Speaker 2: putting a ten percent tariff on stuff we sell them Freyer,
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  Speaker 2: Have Australians got this one right to their fears misplaced?
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  Speaker 1: Or are they on the money?
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  Speaker 3: I honestly cannot believe it.
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  Speaker 4: If we're invaded, if we are dragged into an all
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  Speaker 4: out conflict with China, which we most likely would be,
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  Speaker 4: given we have so many US troops stationed in Australia.
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  Speaker 4: In the event of China invading Taiwan, which they've said
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  Speaker 4: will happen by twenty twenty seven, I'm sorry, but we're
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  Speaker 4: going to have to go in there too. And if
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  Speaker 4: we're in conflict with China, doesn't matter what's happening with
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  Speaker 4: our economic relations with other countries. That is the biggest,
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  Speaker 4: most imminent threat to our country, and anyway, our trade
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  Speaker 4: relations with China probably far more significant for our economy
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  Speaker 4: than the US. Even so if we're in a conflict,
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  Speaker 4: isn't that a bigger threat.
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  Speaker 3: To the economy anyway?
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  Speaker 4: But what I do love about this was it was
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  Speaker 4: really divided along political lines.
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  Speaker 3: Greens voters were most.
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  Speaker 4: Concerned about the tariffs and the least concerned about China.
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  Speaker 3: And it just made me think, when did the Greens
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  Speaker 3: support free markets?
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  Speaker 2: It was sixty percent of Green supporters were really worried
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  Speaker 2: about Trump's town as opposed to Jijingping's military.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, so now the Greens are worried about free markets
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  Speaker 4: and open international.
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  Speaker 3: Trade and not worried about.
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  Speaker 4: Dictatorships and the abuse of minorities like the wingers.
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  Speaker 5: Makes sense, right, Well, if you look at the history
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  Speaker 5: of socialism, dictatorships and abusive minorities has been a pretty
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  Speaker 5: constant feature of it. So maybe the Greens are actually
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  Speaker 5: staying very our message. But I'm with you. I love
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  Speaker 5: the fact that the Greens are now raised about any
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  Speaker 5: threat to laissez fair international capitalism. But I think the
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  Speaker 5: big difference here is that the tariffs are happening, and
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  Speaker 5: they are happening now, whereas the prospect of a Chinese
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  Speaker 5: invasion or a conflict with China is a very serious
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  Speaker 5: risk and a very serious threat, but it hasn't happened yet,
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  Speaker 5: and I think it's something a lot of people simply
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  Speaker 5: don't want to contemplate, so they just say, I'm just
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  Speaker 5: going to pretend that this isn't going to happen, because
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  Speaker 5: the alternative is unthinkable.
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  Speaker 2: On the other hand, the tariffs haven't affected most Australians
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  Speaker 2: in any tangible way. Do you think this is more
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  Speaker 2: a reaction to the Albanezi government demonizing Donald Trump and
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  Speaker 2: his administration.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest, that in any actual threat to their
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  Speaker 1: own well being.
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  Speaker 5: To be honest, I think Trump is doing a pretty
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  Speaker 5: good job of demonizing himself. I'm not a big Trump hater.
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  Speaker 5: He's done great stuff with Iran and Israel. But the
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  Speaker 5: tariffs are really stupid and an active economic self harm.
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  Speaker 5: And his meeting with Putin was disastrous. We can talk
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  Speaker 5: about that later. But so you've got to be clear
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  Speaker 5: right about Trump. He's not the devil, but he's not
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  Speaker 5: the messiah, and and he's certainly not a particularly good
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  Speaker 5: friend to Australia and people see that really clearly. And
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  Speaker 5: it's not just in this pole. There was a Low
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  Speaker 5: Institute pole. There was another, i think resolved poll that
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  Speaker 5: showed that people love the It's not that they're pro
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  Speaker 5: China over the US. They love the US alliance, and
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  Speaker 5: in fact, it's because they love it that they're so
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  Speaker 5: kind of cross or surprised or shocked by Trump's behavior,
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  Speaker 5: Like I thought we were best friends, and now you're
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  Speaker 5: slapping us with tariffs. Now you're saying, you know, you're
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  Speaker 5: threatening out security packed and you know and reviewing it.
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  Speaker 5: You won't meet our prime minister when we've been to
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  Speaker 5: every single war with you but none. So I think
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  Speaker 5: that's that. I mean, that is what the people think.
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  Speaker 5: And frankly, the people are never wrong in a democracy.
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  Speaker 5: So I think they are right to be more concerned
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  Speaker 5: by this because I think we expect more from the
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  Speaker 5: US and Donald Trump. I think people think China's a
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  Speaker 5: pretty shady sort of character anyway. It's very you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's very inscrutable. You don't it's opaque that they don't
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  Speaker 5: say what they're doing. That see, I think Donald Trump
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  Speaker 5: gets up and says we're going to put tariffs on
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  Speaker 5: every country, including Australia. People see that and go, well,
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  Speaker 5: that's right in front of me. I can see that
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  Speaker 5: happening now, whereas China's like, what worship? There's no warships?
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  Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Oh no, you jumped in
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  Speaker 5: front of my bullet.
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  Speaker 2: Just before we move on from newspoll, you said voters
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  Speaker 2: are never wrong frail. What do you make of Anthony
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  Speaker 2: ALBERANIZI really strengthening his grip on the electric through these polls,
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  Speaker 2: Susan Lee making no impact whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a really bad sign for the coalition.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, Susan Lee has gone backwards since the last
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  Speaker 4: News poll, and to be honest, that's also what happened
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  Speaker 4: to Dutton.
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  Speaker 3: The more voters saw of him, the less they liked him.
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  Speaker 4: So the more people are seeing if Susan Lee, the
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  Speaker 4: less they're liking her. But look, I wouldn't get too
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  Speaker 4: despairing yet. Polling this far out from an election, how
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  Speaker 4: we really can't take it that seriously.
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  Speaker 3: But the Coalition has a lot of work to do.
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  Speaker 4: But one area the Coalition should be attacking is wasteful
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  Speaker 4: gun spending and nothing exemplifies this more the new figures
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  Speaker 4: that were released today around how much the cost is
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  Speaker 4: to fly Alman Easy's ministerial staffers around the country. So
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  Speaker 4: ministers all have staff that they can direct to fly
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  Speaker 4: around Australia on whatever official business they desire. Now that
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  Speaker 4: has cost twenty two million dollars a year. It's up
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  Speaker 4: three million dollars from last year. And it's not just
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  Speaker 4: a couple stuff. Alman Easy has sixty six staff that
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  Speaker 4: is flying around Penny Wong twenty four, Tony Burke twenty,
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  Speaker 4: the Indigenous Affairs Minister Malandari McCarthy twenty, Don Farrell to
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  Speaker 4: Trade Minister thirty one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean these are huge, huge numbers.
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  Speaker 4: On top of taxpayers paying for their flights around the country,
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  Speaker 4: we also pay for their nightly allowance, so if they
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  Speaker 4: have to stay in a hotel, we pay them three
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  Speaker 4: hundred and eighty eight dollars.
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  Speaker 3: A night when they come visit Sydney.
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  Speaker 4: And if they stay with family or friends, even if
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  Speaker 4: they're not paying accommodation, they still receive one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: thirty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: A night from the taxpayer.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I have no issue with ministers flying around.
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  Speaker 3: I understand you have to attend meetings, but when you
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  Speaker 3: have sixty plus staff, twenty plus staff for mid tier ministers.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that going a bit far? Why do they need
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  Speaker 4: so many people traveling with them.
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  Speaker 2: It's a total of five hundred and seventy ministerial or
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  Speaker 2: assistant ministerial staffers who have claimed for travel expenses over
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  Speaker 2: the last twelve months. The problem with this, Joe is
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  Speaker 2: the claims are all within the rules, so they haven't
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  Speaker 2: done anything wrong. There's no allegations of wrongdoing or misappropriation.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the fix. Well, the fix is that politicians
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  Speaker 1: would have to change the rules.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Somehow government is going to say, you know what, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to fly less of our staffers around them. It's
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  Speaker 2: never going to fly, if you'll excuse them.
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  Speaker 5: I think it speaks to the you know, the tireless
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  Speaker 5: optimism of Her Majesty's loyal opposition that parties in opposition
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  Speaker 5: are never going to push too hard on these things
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  Speaker 5: because they know that as soon as they give the government,
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  Speaker 5: they're going to do exactly the same thing. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's reasonable enough, obviously for ministers to have a certain
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  Speaker 5: number of advisors come with them if they have to
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  Speaker 5: go and go into important meetings and stuff and meet
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  Speaker 5: with stakeholders and constituents around the country. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 5: if staff should be flying business class. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. Any politician who voluntarily decided to
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  Speaker 5: fly economy domestically as well, I guarantee they would instantly
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  Speaker 5: be seen as the man of the people or the
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  Speaker 5: woman of the people, and be embraced as someone who's
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  Speaker 5: really done that. They would honestly get tongs Bay. And
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  Speaker 5: there was a famous incident where Albow, when he was
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  Speaker 5: Transport Minister I think, got a flight from New Zealand
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  Speaker 5: to Australia and there was some kind of cock up
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  Speaker 5: and he ended up being accidentally bumped to economy and
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  Speaker 5: it was like it was the bell of the boy
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  Speaker 5: all and people, Albert, what are you doing back here
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  Speaker 5: with you know, the common people, the ordinary books. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and there were beers and they were selfiers and our
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  Speaker 5: photos and you know, and he'll be able to point
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  Speaker 5: to that for all of time and they see I'm
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  Speaker 5: a down to earth prime minister, I'm a man of
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  Speaker 5: the people, even if it might have been a ticketing era.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like that, and they should be doing.
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  Speaker 2: It flying out of North Queens and I regular used
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  Speaker 2: to see Bob Catter and he would fly economy and
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  Speaker 2: he would walk down the aisle and he would literally
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  Speaker 2: be high fiving people as he walked down there. It
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  Speaker 2: was like half the plane knew him personally. And then
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  Speaker 2: he'd take off his hat and everyone watches he stored
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  Speaker 2: it in the overhead compartment, but there was genuine affection
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  Speaker 2: because he was one of them flying.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly I did. I did a thing about my boss
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  Speaker 5: boss at the Daily Ty. I fact was the current
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  Speaker 5: busses guy is Paul Whittaker. Great guy, great leader. Said,
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  Speaker 5: find out all these union leaders, you know, representing the workers,
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  Speaker 5: find out how many of them actually accept members to
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Chairman's lounge or blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 5: And one that really stuck stuck out was the Transport
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  Speaker 5: Workers Union. The Transport Workers Union, the leadership refused to
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  Speaker 5: be a member of the Quanas Chairman's Lounge and refused
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  Speaker 5: to fly business class all their every single one of
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  Speaker 5: their flights, they flew economy. And I've always remembered that
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  Speaker 5: it was probably what fifteen years ago I wrote that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: And I've always remembered that, and I thought, you know
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  Speaker 5: what you're legit. I will listen to what you have
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  Speaker 5: to say because I know you're not talking out of
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  Speaker 5: one side of your mouth and have the other side
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  Speaker 5: of your mouth in the traught.
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  Speaker 2: Well, can I just say, as someone who flew today
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  Speaker 2: in seat thirty one D, I would love to be
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  Speaker 2: a member of Quatus Chimneys.
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  Speaker 5: The true amount of the people James Beckfirst, I don't want.
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  Speaker 1: To be a man of the people. I want to
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  Speaker 1: be out in front of the plane.
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  Speaker 5: Amount of the screaming babies at the bat.
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  Speaker 2: There could be a lot of New South Wales parents
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  Speaker 2: in trouble with revelations that most of the e bikes
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  Speaker 2: being driven around New South Wales are probably illegal. These
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  Speaker 2: are electric powered bicycles, but powered a little too much
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  Speaker 2: to be defined as bicycles.
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  Speaker 1: They're more like unregistered motor bikes.
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  Speaker 2: These e bikes are typically ridden by school kids and
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  Speaker 2: delivery riders, so there was a survey done of children
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  Speaker 2: riding e bikes to and from school at Waverley College
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  Speaker 2: in Sydney's East. Ninety nine percent of the e bikes
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  Speaker 2: being ridden by students were found to be illegal. At
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  Speaker 2: Cronulla High School. Seventy five percent of the bikes were
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  Speaker 2: found to be illegal. Now police are threatening fines up
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  Speaker 2: to three thousand dollars, with warnings that parents will be
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  Speaker 2: liable if their children are found to be on an
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  Speaker 2: illegal e bike. The clarification is like this, Frayer. If
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  Speaker 2: the motor assists in speeding the bike above twenty five
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  Speaker 2: kilometers an hour, or if you can ride the bike
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  Speaker 2: over six k's now without pedaling, that would be classified
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  Speaker 2: as a motorbike. Or if the motor itself exceeds five
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  Speaker 2: hundred watts. And a lot of these bikes are illegal
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  Speaker 2: because the motor is five hundred what's or more, but
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  Speaker 2: it's been limited so they've put a limitter on it
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  Speaker 2: so it can't exceed that. But how many of you
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  Speaker 2: know you band kids from social media? They will find
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  Speaker 2: a way to get onto social media. You put a
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  Speaker 2: limitter on a e bike end and kids will find
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  Speaker 2: a way to override the limiter. It's a big problem
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  Speaker 2: because there's been so many accidents, not just from riders
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  Speaker 2: of e bikes, but pedestrians as well. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: fair enough they're cracking down on this. These things are motorbikes,
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  Speaker 2: so you shouldn't be riding them on the footpath, and
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  Speaker 2: if they're riding on the road, they should be registered.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they definitely should be rained in.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I live down in Cronulla and the number
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  Speaker 4: of e bikes is astonishing, and sometimes you'll have these
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  Speaker 4: gangs of kids, like twelve fifteen at a time, all
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  Speaker 4: on these huge e bikes, which by the way, are
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  Speaker 4: not cheap. They're like three thousand dollars a pop. So
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  Speaker 4: parents are spending big money getting their kids these motorized
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  Speaker 4: death machines. They ride around in gangs through them, all
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  Speaker 4: e gangs through pedestrian only areas, and if you're an
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  Speaker 4: elderly person, I can't imagine how scary that must be.
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  Speaker 4: I feel scared and if they knocked me over, I'd
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  Speaker 4: probably be fine. But you do see, I mean, it
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  Speaker 4: is extremely dangerous. They're completely unregulated. If seventy five percent
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  Speaker 4: or ninety nine percent are technically illegal, what is this industry?
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  Speaker 4: But then on the other hand, I do understand it's
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  Speaker 4: hard for parents. Lots of people rely on this for
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  Speaker 4: their kids to get to school, to get to sports trainings.
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  Speaker 4: It's easier than having a parent drive them if they
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  Speaker 4: need to go long distances, especially, But I mean, can't
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  Speaker 4: you just ride a normal bike.
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  Speaker 1: No one's saying you can't have an e bike.
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  Speaker 2: They're just saying, make sure the motor is such that
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  Speaker 2: it's not nay yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So there is absolutely no regulation in the industry. So
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  Speaker 4: the majority of e bikes that people are buying in
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  Speaker 4: good faith are inadvertently illegal. Even if they have the
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  Speaker 4: limit or on the engine and they're not exceeding twenty
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  Speaker 4: five k's an hour, they're still going to be fined
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  Speaker 4: three thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Now that to me seems unfair.
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  Speaker 4: If you're speeding, if you're being reckless, then you should
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  Speaker 4: be fined. But you shouldn't proactively go out and find
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  Speaker 4: people for just having an e bike that they bought
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  Speaker 4: in good faith.
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  Speaker 5: If you should, I find them really annoying. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know why e bikes are just annoying. It's like, you
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  Speaker 5: know what we you know what kind of bike we
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  Speaker 5: rode to school and not a bike, just a bike
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  Speaker 5: bike with pedals and if you got to a hill,
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  Speaker 5: you went sommer. Now the kids today they just kid you.
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  Speaker 5: They don't even pedal on the flat bit who the
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  Speaker 5: only good e bike is an e bike that's bringing
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: me a kebab on uber eats. Well you have the purpose,
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  Speaker 5: mull and void.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's support most of the delivery riders in your
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  Speaker 2: South Wales are also right.
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  Speaker 5: They're fine. I support them one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: So the price of their fine may be added to
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  Speaker 2: your kebeb joe. That's where you're gonna get into trouble exactly.
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  Speaker 5: I'll give it to the tips. I reckon delivery drivers.
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  Speaker 5: That is fine, but they need it for work and everything.
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  Speaker 5: But these you know e bike e gangs full of echhays.
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  Speaker 5: They're lurking around Cronulla Beach and mainly doing god knows
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  Speaker 5: what you know, probably hanging around at skate parks and
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  Speaker 5: listening to rock and roll and that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: No good, get rid of it all together.
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  Speaker 4: But having said that, I would rather kids be out,
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  Speaker 4: even if they're on dangerous e bikes. I've rather than
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  Speaker 4: be outside socializing and at least having some sunshine than
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: inside playing video games or scrolling social media. But speaking
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: of reckless driving, there was a horrific video that came
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  Speaker 4: out of Florida. An illegal migrant was driving a truck
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  Speaker 4: when he suddenly decided to do a.
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  Speaker 3: U turn in the middle of the road.
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  Speaker 4: Another car, a minivan, had no time to stop naturally
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  Speaker 4: plowed into the back of him. Three people. Two people
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  Speaker 4: killed instantly at the scene, and one person died later
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  Speaker 4: in hospital. What was so remarkable about this Well, firstly,
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  Speaker 4: he was an illegal migrant, but he was still given
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  Speaker 4: a commercial truck license by California despite being an illegal migrant.
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  Speaker 4: And when the car smashed into him, he barely even
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  Speaker 4: reacted cool, calm, collected. He just stood there casually as
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  Speaker 4: the Emergency Service's cruise jacked up the truck so they
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  Speaker 4: could remove the remains of the people from under him.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's horrific and disturbing. Quite frankly, if I.
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  Speaker 2: Was one of the family members of those killed, I
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  Speaker 2: would want to know. Can I sue the transport company
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  Speaker 2: who employed an illegal migrant in the first place, because
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  Speaker 2: he should never rightly have been on the road, And second,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: could I sue the state of California fishing a driver's license, moreover,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a truck license to someone who is in the United
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: States illegally. He'd been in the US illegally since twenty eighteen,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: so it's been there seven years. I don't know how
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: long he was driving semi trailers for. But to do
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: a U turn across a major highway in itself shocking,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: but to kill three people.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just do not understand how, you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: I don't like the idea of sort of, you know,
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: pillaring all illegal migrants or whatever, but I just I
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: do not understand how you cannot be a legal resident
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: and somehow for all the qualifications to get a driver's license,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: let alone a commercial driver.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: That's California, right, California have made a virtue of.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Ignoring trump NICs and indeed going again.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: I think you get a free bag of dope at
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: the border as well, just to sort of send you
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: on our welcome to Carolina, a California and joy. But yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: reminded me of this Terrifliates that when we were in Turkey.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: We're in Turkey in the middle of Ramadan, and it
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: was also in the middle of the massive heat wave,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: and so all these people were really really it's sort
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: of exhausted, tied and dehydrated and everything. And we're driving
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: along in this mini van, fanging along, and a truck
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: like very much like the one that we just saw
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: and actual semi trailer just pulls out in the middle
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: of this highway from a kind of a crossroad, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: it clearly just sort of had a sort of look
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: almost and we and you know, our bus basically turned
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: into a concertina was filled with young backpackers and everything.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: We thought that people were dead. The poor driver we
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: thought was dead. Everyone survived, thank god. But it's but
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: it's crazy and you only have and you go to
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: other Yeah, a lot of other countries overseas, you just
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: think the road rules are very they're more like road suggestions.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: But it's all road guidelines, and so.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: It's an issue here as well.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I mean a few weeks ago, there was a story
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: that came out saying there was a huge backlog of
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: drivers tests that weren't that there were like thousands of
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: people waiting to complete their driver's tests because the laws
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: have changed now, so if you have an overseas license,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: you need to complete a test. And the biggest reason
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: so many overseas migrants were failing is because they couldn't
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: read the signs that were in English. These are people
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: that were probably already driving on the roads before the
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: law changed and required them to do a new test. So,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's shocking it happened in Florida, but it
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: does make you wonder, are we close to having some
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: sort of horrific accident like that happened here.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: It's terrible.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: These unsafe drivers are terrible, and as soon as I
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: get my license back, I plan.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: To do something.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Will staying in the United States, of course, Donald Trump
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: announced last week he would send the National Guard into Washington,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: d C. To crack down on what he said is
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a crime epidemic. Of course, the authorities in DC claim
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: there's nothing to see here, that they've got crime completely
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: under control, although worryingly, the police commissioner, you may remember,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: didn't understand what a chain of command was when asked
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: by journalists, said.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: If that's any indication as to how policing is being done,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: then maybe Trump's got a good point.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: They do need some help. Well, Trump's received even more.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Help with now three other Republican governors sending troops from
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: West Virginia, South Carolina, and Ohio about eight hundred additional troops.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: To Washington, d C.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: To help.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Now, the reason, Joe, this is such a controversy in
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: DC is ninety two percent of people in Washington, d
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: C voted for Commander Gary. Yeah, so to be supportive
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: of Trump sending in the National Guard to crack down
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: on crime, to admit that the Democrats have failed miserably
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: on crime.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So there was.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Protests in the streets protesting Trump sending the National Guard,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: which is quite hilarious. You've got people protesting a crackdown
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: on there.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: You make our streets safe?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Exactly right.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Well, no, but it's not just that. It's actually he's
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: planning a military dictatorship. James, I don't know that's right.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's he's using crime as a pretext.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: To actually take over the entire authoritarian agenda.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I did I actually had a little millennial or what
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: are we up to now? Millennials must be like gen
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Z or something. So do you believe me that Trump's
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: a fascist? Yet? I'm like, ah, come on, is this
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: trying to help?
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: It's just he's like Batman, He's just coming here to
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: clean up this town. But yeah, that is the actuation
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: is now just seizing power unlawfully. We know that DC
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: is already has always been overwhelmingly Democrat district. It's also
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: been overwhelmingly black district as well, and so of course
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: there's accusations that it's racist and that Trump is Trump
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: is you know, cracking down on you know, offenders who
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: are often predominantly or disproportionately black. That probably ignores the
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: fact that most victims are also African Americans. So of
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: course I've always been you know, it's like with the
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: black Black Lives Matter protests. Black lives matter, and we're
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: going to show that by setting fire to this black
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: owned business. It's like anyway, so that's the clian and
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: you've also got a whole bunch of you know, the
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: American liberal commentariat just swung in like almost like an
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: orchestra instead of sudden pulling out all these figures that
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: show that in fact crime was down. You know, if
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: you look at this particular type of crime and compared
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: to twenty years ago or this time last year, in fact,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: it was down and out. But I think anyone who
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: knows America generally in DC in particular, it is you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: there are levels of crime I think would be in
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: tolerable in Australia.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: It shows the disconnect between the elites who are in
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: the media, the act academia, the bureaucrats of Washington living
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the nice parts of it, and the nice parts when
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: where they're insulated from the results of their own policies.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: But it's the ordinary folk that have to cop the crime.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You remember last week we talked about a commentator on
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: MSNBC who said, I'm more worried about climate change than
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: about being mugged, which is very much an elitist appea,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: one that would be on.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: This climate change isn't going to steal you, Rair Jordans.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: It's a luxury belief that can only be held by
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: people who have the luxury to believe it because they
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: don't have to face the crime. But I saw another
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: academic who said, this is this whole ploy to nationalize
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the DC police force and deploy the National Guard is
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: really to desensitize people to a military dictatorship, and it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: creeping authoritarianism. So that's the line they're running, and as
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: long as they run that line, I think there's no
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: hope for the Democrats.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: James.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right that they're there to protect
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: federal monuments. They're there to deter crime by having a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: visible law and form presence and they're there to assist
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: where necessary local law enforcement. I'm not sure how you
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: could interpret that as some fascist authoritarian theagy exactly.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what you would say fascist, exactly unless you're a.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Democrat, exactly.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Well, something that was so woke and went so so
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: broke was Disney's.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Remake of the Snow White movie. Now.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: It starred Israeli actress Galgado, and she's now come out
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: blaming anti Israel sentiment for the movie being a flop.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I personally love Galgado, love her in a whole bunch
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: of movies.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: She's in Superwoman, She's.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Great, wonder Woman, wonder Woman, But on this one, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: hate to say it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I think she's sorely misguided.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was so much the anti Israel sentiment.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I think it was the anti woke sentiment. Her co
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: star was Rachel Zegler, who on the red carpet promoting
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the film said, we are remaking Snow White without the
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Prince saving Snow White, so removing the fundamental plot point.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: And it was this whole like feminist empowerment. We're done
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: with fairy tales and the damsel in distress. This is
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: all women's empowerment, and then on top of that, she
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: is completely insufferable and posts all this left wing political
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: stuff online and people just went, we are done being
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: lectured to by Hollywood by the movies. So it's not
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the and Israel sentiment. That might be a small factor.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: But I think it's scopic factor. I don't think it
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: has absolutely anything to do with it. And I've never
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: heard anyone suggests this at all, Like, I don't know
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: how you even think of this and put that kind
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: of join the dots.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: To She suggested she's Jewish and that she was regarded
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: as an Israeli rather than an actress, and that the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: movie after the October seven attacks, then it all became politicized.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: And no, no, if anti Semitism was driving people to
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: boycott movies, there would be no Hollywood.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So ill.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to remember in the movie, I
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: think snow White is called snow White not because her
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: skin is white, but because she was born in a snowstorm.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And the Seven Dwarves were famous.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Seven little people, diverse.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Characters, and so yeah, that probably.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Was you know, I went to a Keith Urban concert
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: on Sunday night, same night you launched your brilliant new show.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Congratulations say quickly, don't you think it's weird that a
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: country singer is called Keith Urban.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: They've thought about that, but that's true.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I can't stop thinking about it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Something in his concert, which I really liked, he said,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: my goal this evening, for the next two hours is
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to make every person in this room forget about life
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: outside of this room. And that's why you go to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: a concert, that's why you go to a football game,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that's why you go to the movies to forget about
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: everything else. And unfortunately Hollywood keep trying to use movies
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to remind us of everything.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: The month, that idea that something is woken, that something
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: is hectoring you, even if it's not there. Because my
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: wife I was sort of dipped in and out. My wife,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: she said, it's actually not a bad film. It's pretty good.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: But once people get in that idea that it is
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: something that's going to let you, or the person who's
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: doing it is this obnoxious person who's lecturing you, that
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: is when it just is wild.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: But you know what happened.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: There was so much backlash from fans in the early
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: stages of creating the film that they had to go
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: back and refilm huge chunks of the movie and.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Then edit it together.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: So this is actually two separate films edited together to
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: try and de woke the original film because they knew
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: it was going to be completely rejected. That's why the
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: budget blew out to hundreds of millions of dollars and
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: it became a four hundred million dollar budget film, which
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: was never intended. So the whole movie feels disjointed, it
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: feels wrong, and that's why it sucks.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: And also, James Gunn Superman not woke, not not not
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: not not. Go see it now. It's amazing you enjoyed it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I loved it so much. I saw twice at the movies.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I've tried to go and see the third time. I'll
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: go with me. But it is absolutely one hundred percent
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: not woke.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Well, well, anti Semitism probably had nothing at all to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: do with the failure of Snow White at the box office.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Antisemitism did seem to be a problem in Melbourne, where
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a Jewish man went to a hairdresser and alleged that
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: he was refused service. After the hairdresser became aware that
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: he had once served in the IDF. He went to
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Juniput Celon in Melbourne's southeast and when the hairdresser inquired
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: about his accent and found out that he was Israeli,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: then said he could not receive a haircut because allegedly
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: she said he was a baby killer. Rebel News went
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and confronted the hairdresser.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Here's what happened.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: He'd ask you why you kicked someone out when you
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: found out they were Israeli?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Why did you do We're a baby killer?
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Now off, do you always ask people with ethnic accents
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: where they come from? You kick somebody out? Do you
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: know that's against the Lord to kill somebody? Actually, the
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: Racial Discrimination Act based on nationality. Israeli's on a race nationality?
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Is it race or nationality?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So this is all alleged, but if it were found
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: to be true, this would be a violation of the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: anti discrimination law, which carries up to a one hundred
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine. In Victoria. We could talk about the
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: particular instance. My big issue I think is the Albanezy
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: government have created this where if someone who served in
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the IDF is called in this case allegedly a child killer.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: That I think is a direct result of the way
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: our government has demonized Israel, accused them of genocide, banned
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: democratically elected members of the Israeli government from visiting our country,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: pretty much called on Israel to end the fighting in
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the Middle East, while it's Hamas who holds hostages. Are
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: we really surprised that people might hold these views.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: This is the propaganda machine at work, and this is
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: the result. Anybody who is Israeli is now being called
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: a baby killer, and that's not you know, there's this
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: one instance, but I see it on social media all
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: You see it. It is out there and.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Everyone goes, well, the pro Palestinians would say, well, it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: not Jews, it's just Zionus.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It's not Jews, it's just Israeli. Well guess what.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Most of the Israeli defense force are Jews. Anyone who's
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: in Israel, you serve in the army. So all of
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: a sudden, you are actually demonizing an entire group of people.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: And while you can claim it's just about Zionis or
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: just about Israelis, that really does not stack up. It
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: is about Jews unless they disown their own homeland. They say,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: they accuse their own people of genocide, and they buy
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: terrorist propaganda, then you'll be loved by the left.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: The other interesting thing that you know, we had the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge protest and there's a similar one being planned
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: for Brisbane's Story Bridge, and I think a court ruled
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that they're not allowed to do it, said judges. Brisbane
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: testas said they might ignore the court ruling and go
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: ahead anyway. And then when journalists said, but hang on
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: a second, Albanezy has recognized the state of Palestine or
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: is going to the protest organizers said that was never
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: one of our demands. What we want is sanctions against Israel,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: divestment from Israeli companies.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: So very clearly this is not.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: About free, free Palestine, about punishing Israel and more specifically
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: punishing Jews.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and also just about quite frankly, protesting for the
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: sake of protesting. Again, as I've always said, Palestine is
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: just a cause to Azure. That's why you see it
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: lumped in with all sorts of other ridiculous causes that
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: should have no natural alignment, like queis for Palestine. It's like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I don't think those two things really go together. Guys,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: if you have a look at the respective possess sat
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: people who is. You know, Queers for Palestine are supporting
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: the Ayatola and Haran who has killed thousands of thousands
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: of gay people just for being gay. And so you
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: just got these lunatics. It's the same as the trans's
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: supposed trans protest in Melbourne that weren't trans people who
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: are running around in masks picking fights with the cops,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: professional protesters, Antifa and the you know whatever they are
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: these days, resistance, the spartest of socialist alternative, you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: you name it. I knew all these I can't swear,
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: but you know people you know when I was at
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: UNI and they I was a member of a group
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: called Left Focus, and they thought we were right wing sellouts.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: So these guys are bonkers, right, and they just hitch
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: on any cause they can to try to get in
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: a fight with the cops, to try and get in
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: a fight.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: With the fashists were fetching them.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: And so they will just hitch their wagon to any
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: march or whatever. And it's the same like the guy
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: who did the Sydney Bridge was can't try it, like
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: the guys, you know, And it's just it's crazy that
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: there are that many people out there who support it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Shouldn't have been allowed to go on the Harbor Bridge anyway,
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: it had to be turned bound because of preparing too dangerous.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Someone in Brisbane has actually made the right decision. And
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: this is the other thing with the organized like you
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: know the court decision in Sydney, which no one expected.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: The judge just got led by her nose. But the
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: protest is like, so this is a victory, this is
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: a victory for us, but even when the decision doesn't
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: go their way, we're just going to do it anyway. Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: So is it like a landmark victory in the court
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: or is it just you just do what you want
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: and you don't give a rats about the law anyway.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: And again it's not they don't want progress. They don't
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: want you know, as soon as albaneze he made his announcement,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: the first thing that happened was that all these nut
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: jobs said, oh no, it's not good enough. And the
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: government actually deliberately wanted didn't want to be pushed into
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: a decision this quickly because they didn't want to look
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: like it was a reaction to these rat bag radicals.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: So anyway, they do enormous harm to their own cause.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Well, the issue of shark necks is back on the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: agenda after a surfer carab Prancess cabarreta beach yes sorry,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Northern New South Wales was lucky to survive a shark attack.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: The shark went for him instead, got his surfboard, taking
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: a huge chunk out of it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Have a look, hey, yeah your.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Head, Oh yes, get head.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Through the bar.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Next level, mate, that he is absolutely insie. Put it
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: together a bit more. Yeah, that's.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Jesus. Tell you what.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You're pretty lucky. You go straight out and buy a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: lotto ticket, wouldn't you now. This happened six weeks after
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: a sixteen year old boy was attacked by a shark
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: at the same beach. He had injuries to his torso,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: legs and arms, was lucky to survive, but ended up
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: in hospital in pretty bad shape. Instances like this I
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: think freyer make a mockery of state governments like in
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: New South Wales wanting to get rid of shark nets
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: because they're concerned about the dolphins. I'd be more concerned
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: about surfers like that guy who clearly just survived exactly
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: incredible attack.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: If you think that the lives of a couple turtles.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I love turtles, but their lives are not worth as
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: much as human lives. That's just the reality. We have
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: to prioritize human safety. Down in Cronulla, at my local beach,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: they removed shark nets as of March this year, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: around the state, the min's governments asked Waverley, Central Coast
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: and the Northern Beaches to nominate beaches to participate in
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: a trial removing shark nets.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: It is a matter of time, mark my words. It
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: is just a matter of time before we see these
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: sorts of horrific attacks coming to Sydney beaches and it
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: will be so much worse because our beaches are very busy,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: very packed. We have an amazing international reputation for our beaches.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: If we start having shark attacks at BONDI good luck Australia.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I mean that would be really bad.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely right. And look, firstly, it's been lovely knowing
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: you and working with you, and you know, at least
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: you know better to live fast and die young. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: guess the only good shark is that did shark sharks
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: need to go the way that A scooters and the
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: A bikes and the A shays, just get rid of
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: them all. And you know what, I love dolphins. Wales
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: are my favorite animal and I love dolphins. But all
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: the dolphins I know would gladly lay down their lives
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: to protect a human. And I think if you ask
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: them they would say that, they would say, which means yes,
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: I will die for the shark they And again the
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: impact on Australia too is if there's a shark attack
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: at Bondi Beach or Manly Orknala, it would just be woful.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: And in the men's government's defense, my understanding is the
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: sort of background of this is you've actually had counsels
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: dominated by greenees and activists and everything saying we want
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: to get rid of all shark nets, and the state
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: government is the one that has that power, and they're
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: saying no, no, no, no no, and they've sort of resisted, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: they've kept having to go to make it and they've gone,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: all right, okay, you just picked one beach and we'll
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: have a trial. If anything happens, you know, you're in
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: all sorts. And they're meant to put in all these
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: other mitigation areas. I just don't buy it. Look at
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: the results until very recently, hadn't been a single fatal
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: attack at any netted beach in New South Wales for
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: the best part of a century. I think there's maybe
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: ben one now, which is incredible results. So if it
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: ain't broke, don't fix it. And to all the dolphins
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: and the turtles, thank you for your service.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Really quickly before we go to a break. Just want
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: to show you the madness of Casey Council. In Victoria,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a couple have been fined two thousand dollars because they've
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: got ten cars parked on their property. Now, the owner
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: of the property is a car dealer, so he has
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: ten cars parked on his property.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: They're barely visible from the street.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: No work is done on the cars aside from occasional
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: washing and vacuuming.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: They're all registered. And here's the irony.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: If he parked those cars out on the street out
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the front of his property, no problem. But because he's
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: parked them on his own property, Casey Council have fined
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: him and his partner a thousand bucks each. Around two
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars fair or ridiculous.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: It's completely absurd. It's punishing the battlers.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: He couldn't afford to have a warehouse to store them
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: since COVID, he's doing a community of service putting it
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: on his property, not on the street for Casey Council
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: to come along and find them.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Two thousand dollars is just mean.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: When I grew up, Daniel just down the road from
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Casey Council and it was seen as a badge of
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: honor to have a car in your front yard, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: an even greater honor if that car was on bricks.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: That's how you knew the person was for real.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: including the Northern Territory Chief Justice slams indigenous men who
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: use traditional law to excuse domestic violence, and the machete
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: mayhem continues in Victoria. Even it's just into Ellen's machete
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: band takes effect. All of that coming up in a moment.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. Let's take a look at
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: what's making headlines in tomorrow's papers so you hear it here. First,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: we'll start with the Melbourne Herald's son Who've got nap
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: planned results not good for boys revealed. Plan results exposed
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: growing gender gap crisis in our school system, The Lost Boys,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: reads the headline. The article reads, Behavioral issues and rising
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: disability rates are fueling a crisis in boys' education, with
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: gender gaps widening for every napplan licy, litricy subject. Funny
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: that I tripped up on that word. New analysis of
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Naplanned data shows twice as many boys
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: as girls are seriously failing in writing at every level
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: years three, five, seven, and nine. In Victoria, boys are
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: struggling most in year nine grammar, with forty four point
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: one percent unable to use basic punctuation compared with thirty
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: four point two percent of girls. Joe, you're a parent
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: of terrified son. Are you surprised that boys are struggling
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: in particular?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And what do you put it down to?
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not. And he's about to go to high
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: school next year, so I've got all this to look
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: forward to. He's a great kid, he's not as not
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: as academically kind of. I don't know give it as
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: his younger sister seems to be. But I think it's
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: it's just weird. It's just hard to know. I think
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: kids these days, there's there's so much other stuff going on.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: We're hopeless with the screens, and they have those, and
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: we try to sort of restrict and everything there's there
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: does seem to be a rise into sort of different
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: behavioral spectrums and neurodivergence lest anyone possibly be offended. And
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: also I think boys are just you know, they don't
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: you know, academic performance, I don't think is highly prized.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: They want to play football, they.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Want to play footy and everything, and girls are just
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: more mature, they seem to be more have more self discipline,
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: they're able to focus better. But yeah, what would I know.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: But this is obviously absolutely terrifying. But I'm sure that
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: the screens do have something to do with it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: But we've got to move on, but just quickly, anecdotally,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: one of my boys really struggled at school until he
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: got a male teacher, and the male teacher just understood him,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, he's he improved out of sight,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: and I had to think that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Had something to do with it in his instance, at least.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Machete mayhem spree is the other headline that got our
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: attention in tomorrow's Herald's Son, a gang of machete wielding
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: teens who terrorized supermarket workers during a three hour crime
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: spree across Melbourne, have been arrested following a high speed
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: police chase that came hours after a dad was stabbed
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: eleven times in a home invasion. And of course all
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of this happening right as Jacenter Allen's machete ban takes effect.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: You'll be aware that she's put up amnesty bins around
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Melbourne where you can pop your machete into the bin
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and give it up. And of course to believe gang
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: members are going to do that, it's the height of naivety.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Are we really surprised machete mayhem continues?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Fair, not at all.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: And those machete bins, I think in total cost over
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: thirteen million dollars, which works out at over three hundred
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: thousand dollars per bin.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: You could buy a whole Ferrari for that.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: And she's putting up these mashety bins that I bet
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: you no one is using.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Well, they're expective because they had to secure the machete
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: amnesty bins from mashete wielding games, and.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: So that's what it's so absurd.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Well, in the Australian Tomorrow, the headline is bogus traditional
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: violence excuse. The Chief Justice of the Northern Territory says
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: some extreme attacks on Aboriginal women have been attributed to
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: bull traditional violence, in which perpetrators seek to justify their
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: crime as the enforcement of their rights. As he warns,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: domestic violence has likely worsened in the top end. Chief
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Justice Michael Grant, speaking to lawyers at Darwin conference this month,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: referenced an Indigenous commentator who noted that drunk Indigenous men
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: abuse their partners for illegitimate reasons before explaining away the
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: attacks as some sort of traditional rights. He also said
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Commonwealth legislation introduced in two thousand and six was intended
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: to protect Aboriginal women by ensuring traditional practice could not
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: be taken into account when sentencing domestic violence offenders. So
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: that's really interesting because this is something just enter Price
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: talks a lot about. A lot of the issues in
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Indigenous communities can also be traced back to culture or
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: culture is used as an excuse to mistre people, which
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: is really sad.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Indigenous people make up twenty six percent of the Northern
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Territory ninety three percent of all domestic violence cases in
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory over the past twenty five years have
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: involved Indigenous men, and of those, ninety percent alcohol related,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: according to the article in Tomorrow's Australia.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all right, and it's something that a lot
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: of people have been trying to draw attention to. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: the inner city Green Left have been absolutely outrageous and
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: disgraceful in turning a blind eye to and in some
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: cases even denying the extent of the epidemic to their
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: absolute appalling shame. And you wonder why all our hard
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: works trying and get the voice failed on to the advertiser. Now,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: this is just an absolute cracker of a splash. AFL's
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: double standard pay Snoop, make Isaac pay and here it
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: is slurred lines. So John Rolf, a footy writer in Melbourn,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: has sort of got this. I mean, whoever thought of
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: this as a genius. In a dramatic double standard, the
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: AFL will pay Snoop Dog up to two million dollars
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: to perform at the Grand Final, while crow star Isaac
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: Rankin faces being rubbed out for weeks despite both using
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: the same homophobic slur. I believe this slur was a
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: musical theater cast member Adelaide will desperately try to argue
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Parking's AFL penalty down to three weeks and keep his
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: season alive. Despite his confession that he used a homophobic
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: slur against a Collingwood player on Saturday Night, Snoop has
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: used the same slur in lyrics to his song, but
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: he will get a warm AFL welcome. So if you're
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: a superstar, you're allowed call someone a musical theater cast member,
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: but if you're a footy player on the field in
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: the head of the moment, you're not allowed to.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: What this means is Isaac Rankin.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: If the Crows make the Grand Final, he can't play,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: but he could perform as a backup singer at the halftime.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: What a double standard? What a double standard?
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Just quickly, the Hobart Mercury has gone with Greens give
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Winter cold Shoulder. I like that headline Winter of course,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: being the Labor leader. A Labor motion of no confidence
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: in the Liberal government is doomed to fail after the
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Greens confirmed they would not support it when Parliament returns today.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: So just what the Tasmanians need more political wrangling. They
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: really should just get a government that gets on with governing. Fray,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: you've got the Cans.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Strange story in the Cans Post headline is hungry teen
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: broke into care home. A magistrate faced with sentencing a
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Cans teen in a Child Safety Department's care who broke
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: into his residential home his old residential home for a sleep,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: drinks and some food, has asked what else was he
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: supposed to do? The boys seventeen pleaded guilty to seven
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: charges related to breaking the window of a care home
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: so that he good sleep in a bed there. He
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: also took drinks from the fridge and damaged a wall,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: window and screen door. He's been in five placements in
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: less than twelve months, so maybe the answer would be,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: don't break into your old home.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Maybe just go sleep in your new home.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Will someone tell the magistrate that clear clearly was confused.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: We to go to a break when we come back.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Male cheerleaders under fire in the United States, and three
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: new words added to the dictionary, one of which.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Has been used by our Prime minister recently. That's coming up.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get to male cheerleaders and words added to
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: the dictionary in just a moment. But first, Joe Overnight,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: a famous British actor, has passed away that's right.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Speaking of male cheerleaders, here's Joe and yes, Terrence Stamp.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: You won't believe this. My favorite movie in the world
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: is Superman two. And I actually watched the Richard Donna
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: cutt of Superman two last night, just on a whim.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I wake up this morning to find out that it's
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: star Terrence Stamp, who played General Zotte, his most famous role,
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: had died aged eighty seven. I'm not saying that the
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: two things. I'm not saying I actually killed him, but
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying it's a hell of a coincidence. Anyway.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: He was an amazing actor at eighty seven, so good innings.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Not exactly a life tragically cut short, but he was
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: a real man about town, incredibly suave and dashing figure
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: in the sixties, and then had some critically climed roles.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: He was an actor's actor, and then his absolute masterpiece,
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: General Zode in Superman two. Take a look.
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: So this is planet Houston, A very strange surface. Get
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: your butts up or out. I like the glue. The
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: flash is red, like how Krypton's sung, but not this
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: irritating noise. Make queen.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: A weapon of some sort.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: How did you do?
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: Oh, but there is one man here on earth who
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: will never kneel before you. Who is the symbassy? I
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: wish I knew. Oh God, sod.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Amazing. Just that eye roll when the guy tries to
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: give him the s's.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Incredible, So good, what an amazing career. Well.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: In the us NFL team, the Minnesota Vikings are under
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: file for having male cheerleaders on their team.
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: Take a look.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Some fans have threatened to cancel their memberships. I mean
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: it's kind of weird.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: I think cheerleading is a great sport, but it is
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: generally for girls when it's on the sidelines.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: That's so sexist of you.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: From said that, before we go, three new words have
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: been added to the Cambridge Dictionary, one of which was
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: used by our Prime Minister recently that the new words
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: are scibbiti if I pronounced sib sclibberty, gibby, which could
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: mean nothing at all, or it could mean something's trash,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: trad wife which means a traditional wife who likes to
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: post on social media. And here's the one the PM
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: used recently, de Lulu. They are delulu with no salulu,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: mister speaker.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Delulu apparently means delusional.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: I love it. I love it. I love this new
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: twenty first century. And he's down with the kids. He's
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: kicking at old school. He's busting some rhymes.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: No, it's cringe if you don't know what it means,
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: which I bet he doesn't.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Some stuff had just told him to do this. It's cringe.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: That's all we've got time for stick around. Coming up
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: is the Read a Penny Show. Good Night,