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NFL Week 4 NFL DFS - MNF | Jets @ Dolphins | Bengals @ Broncos | DraftKings Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems, clear the lift?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Sean Jordan, go collect, Richard Philly Phantom,
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  Speaker 2: Christen our Man nads Andrew Man. Hoop, how are we
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: doing today? Hoop? Two games slate on a Monday. If
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: you like Showdown more, hey, you have that option to
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: play Showdown. Actually not only one game you can play
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  Speaker 2: it on You can also play two games a Showdown.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: If you want to play two games slate, you can
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  Speaker 2: do that. Do you want to play at all? You
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  Speaker 2: can mix up your bankroll thirty thirty what would that be?
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  Speaker 2: Thirty thirty forty if you want to do whatever you
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  Speaker 2: want to do. If there's a lot of prizes out there,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking football, that means it's a good day over here.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing? Do them well? Man? Do them well?
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  Speaker 3: You know? I like these little two game slates, a
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  Speaker 3: little change of pace. Like you said, if you like
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  Speaker 3: the two gamers, you can play the two gamer. If
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  Speaker 3: you like the Showdown, you can play the Showdown. If
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  Speaker 3: you like both, you can play both. And like you said,
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  Speaker 3: kind of split it up so it gives you some options.
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  Speaker 3: I like it. Just wanted to shout out our teacher
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  Speaker 3: friend Derek, make sure those kids are busy, man, get him,
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  Speaker 3: get them on something for the next forty five minutes
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  Speaker 3: so you can stay tuned into the show. We always
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  Speaker 3: appreciate your support. And then this is my main greape
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  Speaker 3: for sure, and a great comment here, man, I wish
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  Speaker 3: DraftKings would fix pricing. This always soft shit is lame
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  Speaker 3: when they have these two games slates, that's that is
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  Speaker 3: definitely my gripe. They're just rolling out with the same
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  Speaker 3: pricing that they would have on a normal slate. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we have a lot of undesirable fantasy option, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: on the slate, so you have to bump these prices up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the one thing I'd definitely say, when you
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  Speaker 3: build teams, just don't even look at the salary or
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  Speaker 3: what's left. Like I don't think you could really build
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  Speaker 3: the team and bill out all the salary. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's probably impossible, So everyone's dealing with it. I do
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  Speaker 3: wish they would change it up a little bit, but
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  Speaker 3: you just, you know, just don't even salary is not
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  Speaker 3: a factor at all on the slate because of the pricing,
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  Speaker 3: and on these smaller slates, these standalone, smaller slates. I
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  Speaker 3: really wish they would adjust things and they just never have,
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  Speaker 3: so everyone has to everyone has to play with the
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  Speaker 3: same parameters. It is unfortunate though, for sure, but I
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  Speaker 3: like it regardless. I mean two games slate, Like you said,
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  Speaker 3: if you like the Showdown, you can still play the Showdown. Big,
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  Speaker 3: big prize pools, DraftKings five hundred thousand up top for
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  Speaker 3: the two game slates. So that'll be my main focus
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  Speaker 3: for tonight and really the main focus of the show.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we'll talk about all the plays as we
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  Speaker 3: go on, but we're gonna be more focused on the
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  Speaker 3: two gamer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, mainly the two game five hundred k. It's
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  Speaker 2: hard to pass that up twenty dollars. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: even if you don't do that, big contest, solid three
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  Speaker 2: dollars contest, very good single entry contests out there as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean your story of the slaveh with how soft
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  Speaker 2: the pricing is is like, there's no tight end. If
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  Speaker 2: you look at tight end pricing. I like the onesie positions,
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  Speaker 2: no one's above four k. You look at receiver, only
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  Speaker 2: one receiver above six point five k, only four people
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  Speaker 2: six k and above quarterback, no one above six k.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just it's almost impossible to spend all your salary.
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  Speaker 2: If you have a team with twenty two hundred left
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  Speaker 2: in the Big One, I would not worry about that
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  Speaker 2: one bit. To be honest, the more money you leave,
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  Speaker 2: the better it can be for yourself. Again, two games
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  Speaker 2: on tap, both forty four and a half totals, Miami
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  Speaker 2: Jets and the Broncos and the Bengals. Three three point
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  Speaker 2: favorites are the Dolphins. Seven that point favorites are the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: We will be talking position by position. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: the best way to cover this. And I'm already tilted
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  Speaker 2: on this show. So I think my camera's going in
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  Speaker 2: and out again, and that makes me realize that it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't my old camera. It was something that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know the adapter this. So I bought a whole new
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  Speaker 2: camera and I have the backup sitting right next to me,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not even the one I ordered, So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. I got to figure that out.
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  Speaker 3: IOMs like it's still working. There's just some flashess that
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  Speaker 3: are popping.
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  Speaker 2: In and out, but that was going on before tooth
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  Speaker 2: Hamill said the flashing. I don't know should I did.
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  Speaker 2: I go to the FaceTime ones or the Mac one
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  Speaker 2: so it doesn't flash or keep it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I go to the Mac when that's what I used,
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  Speaker 3: and I've had zero issues with the Mac camera, So
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  Speaker 3: I think the Mac camera is the definitely the way
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  Speaker 3: to go. But in regards to I mean, just to
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  Speaker 3: kind of recap yesterday a little bit while you get
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  Speaker 3: situated over there, I mean, scoring seems just like so
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  Speaker 3: high this year. I think it has to do again,
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  Speaker 3: I could be wrong. It has to do with the
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  Speaker 3: kickoff thing. A lot of these time, Yeah, teams are
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  Speaker 3: getting the ball at the thirty five to forty yard line.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of plays they're right there in the posing
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  Speaker 3: red zone. But the scoring has been like substantially higher
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  Speaker 3: in fantasy this year. I would say, I mean some
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  Speaker 3: of these games are massive, you know Pooka, all these
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  Speaker 3: running backs, I mean, nobody running backs twenty five or
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  Speaker 3: high or there's absolutely nuking this SLD. I'd assume it
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  Speaker 3: has to be the kickoff thing. Is that kind of
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  Speaker 3: what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of that has to do
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  Speaker 2: with I mean, starting from the thirty five versus the
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  Speaker 2: twenty five or the twenty is a huge difference obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and I hate that kicking thing. I mean, shout out
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  Speaker 2: to Aubrey that dude has to be the best kick,
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  Speaker 2: like of every part of it. But you can tell
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  Speaker 2: he works so much on putting in the dead zone
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  Speaker 2: or whatever the heck you want to call it. Those
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  Speaker 2: fifteen yards are absolutely massive for your team. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what these other teams kickers like. Help I mean
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  Speaker 2: talk about brain that Matt Lafleur. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: go on a whole ramp, but buddy, you got to
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  Speaker 2: call time out. I get you call plays and you're
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  Speaker 2: the head coach. You better hire someone up top to
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  Speaker 2: absolutely tell you how to figure out when to call
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  Speaker 2: timeouts if you're worried about plays, because inexcusable. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you damn near played for the tie, Like, what was
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  Speaker 2: that in the fourth? A ties is good of a
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  Speaker 2: loss in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: You got a third point. Yeah, your seven point favorite.
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  Speaker 3: You go out there, and you go out there and
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  Speaker 3: try to win that game. You don't play to try
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  Speaker 3: to tie the Dallas Cowboys without their top wide receiver,
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  Speaker 3: without you know, after they traded away one of the
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  Speaker 3: best defensive players in the league. Like, you go out
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  Speaker 3: there and win yourself a ballgame, like you do not
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  Speaker 3: play to tie against the freaking Dallas Cowboys that petic.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, neither defense really stopped them all game, but
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  Speaker 2: fifty seconds you pick up a first down, one time out,
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  Speaker 2: call the time out, you're on the twelve thirteen yard line,
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  Speaker 2: three shots to the end zone. Instead, you take twenty
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  Speaker 2: seconds to run a I don't know, wide receiver screen.
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  Speaker 2: It almost looked like to lose yards then burn your
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  Speaker 2: time out. I mean I couldn't. Yeah, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to go on a rant about that. These guys are
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  Speaker 2: donkeys at the end.
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  Speaker 3: Are Texans. Our Texans got the job and Survivor though
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  Speaker 3: that was big. That was a big one.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go Bengals, that'd be pretty cool. Broncos like twenty percent.
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  Speaker 2: There's been no chaos for all those out in the
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  Speaker 2: Survivor streets out there, but hey, that's good for us.
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  Speaker 3: We got a little blood yesterday. And the Chargers who
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: you know, we I think you and I both said like,
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  Speaker 3: no way, we're touching. The Chargers. They were I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: five six seven percent owned, and then the Packers. I
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  Speaker 3: thought the Packers would be higher, they're only three or
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  Speaker 3: four ish, but I mean we should add it up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean ten percent gone and we continue to continue
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  Speaker 3: to march on.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, next week looks pretty tough. Excited to see what
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: our man Sheets has to say. We do, I'll throw
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  Speaker 2: it to you on that who. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: many know. We do have pools. It's under the NFL
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  Speaker 2: right here, NFL tool and Sheets video. I mean just
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  Speaker 2: the grid alone. The game of Survivor is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun. You've been playing for a lot of years.
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  Speaker 2: But if you want to talk about that, and then,
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  Speaker 2: I mean most people in here for DFS, no better
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: time to get in with all the prizes we got going.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we'd love to have a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: at the nation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Survivor stuff is a lot of fun. And
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: we have a dedicated Discord channel just dedicated to the
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: Survivor talk and it's very active. People are liking it,
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: throwing bouncing ideas off of each other. It's just a
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: fun way to mix it up. I mean, obviously we're
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: all playing DFS and whatnot, maybe mixing in some bets,
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: but you know, Survivor is just a kind of a
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  Speaker 3: another angle. And if you are playing Survivor, I mean,
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: nobody is better at analyzing. I've watched a lot of
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: other stuff too, and it's it's just so basic, like
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: what everyone's talking about, Like on YouTube, so many people
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: are now talking about Survivor, but it's in the most
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: basic manner, shortsighted manner. I would say, Sheets, it's an
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: advanced experience kind of like he is hitting on all
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: angles and it's an advanced analysis. He touches on single
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: entry or not single entry, but single picks. He touches
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: on where the multiple pick stuff. So it's it's a
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: lot of fun. And like you said, yea's right under
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: the NFL tab on on our home page there, Yeah,
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: right right down there. So it's been a lot of
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: fun and you know, looking to kind of build it
• 8:44
  Speaker 3: up the community. To be honest with you, it's been
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: a it's been fun. I love going in the discord
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: and seeing what everyone has to say and like I said,
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: bouncing ideas off of each other. It's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Sheets does a review video for free on Tuesdays
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: and then a premium video on Wednesdays. So if you
• 9:00
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• 9:02
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• 9:05
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• 9:07
  Speaker 2: say football because not only NFL but college football streets.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: I was in there on Saturday. They went good our projections,
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: look money dollar, Bill Smarty, Hammock, the crew does a
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: great job there. I mean, there's very harder grind. There's
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: very few harder grinds out there than college football. I'll
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: throw NBA up there for sure. Shout out to NBA.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Shout out to our man Rio that's coming back before
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: we know it. College football is a very news oriented
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm talking this guy's not warming up, or this
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: guy's on the sideline five minutes before. You have the
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: notifications on in the college football chat. Those guys always
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: have you covered a lot of money in the college
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: football streets too. So you have a three forty nine
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  Speaker 2: football package. Still a lot of NFL to be played,
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of college football to be played. If you
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: do want, though, MMA, NASCAR, MLB playoffs, your Tigers get
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: in they start.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get me started on that, man, do not get
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: me started on that. He's mega tilted.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So a lot of sports going on that we'd
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: love to have you at the Nation and if you
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: do join, definitely do get in the discord the best
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: community around anything you want to add to that hoop.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Otherwise you kind of said broad slate over if you
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: I mean it's two games. There's only a hand excuse me,
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: a handful of options at each position, but the salary
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: is what mainly stands out and then going to like
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: tight end. So we're gonna screenshare Saber. We're gonna go
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: position by position. Again, we have our ship in nation
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  Speaker 2: projections and ownership if you want to take in Actually
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: we'll just take an average. We'll go average from ship
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  Speaker 2: to nation and sabers and the nice thing you can
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: do if you are on the starter pack, you do
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: get sabersim projections for all those but you can see
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  Speaker 2: like knowing above three seven for a salary at tight end,
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  Speaker 2: knowing above six k Jamar Chase and a tier of
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  Speaker 2: his own. Just even with how bad they've looked, you
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  Speaker 2: have no one to spend, so you'll just naturally click
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  Speaker 2: on Chase. Any broad slate before we go QBS in
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  Speaker 2: position by position.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just real quick, before we fully hop into it,
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  Speaker 4: I just wander in mind everyone that the email will
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: be going out for the one hundred and ninety nine
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  Speaker 4: people that will be selected to play in the ship
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: at games contest to win the golden ticket that will
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: be going out I believe either tonight or tomorrow early,
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: so make sure to continue to check your email to
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: see if you are indeed a winner.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Of one of those tickets. So, and then also one
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: other thing, we hit a couple of big wins. Our
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  Speaker 3: guy Jay Walking, he's been with us since day one,
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  Speaker 3: founding family member, took down one hundred thousand dollars, so I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to congratulate him on a huge win. He's grinded
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  Speaker 3: his ass off and got that big win, so congratulations
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  Speaker 3: to him. And then we had the twenty thousand dollars
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: winner in the college football streets, Danny Draper. So congrats
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: to the winners. Jay Walking, I believe lives relatively close
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  Speaker 3: to me. He was at the Rocket Mortgage event when
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: we were all there a couple of years ago, so
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: I definitely wanted to congratulate him on that big win.
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  Speaker 2: A sweat I do something right behind him at Gensy,
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: I was following it in one hundred dollars. He was
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  Speaker 2: up there for a little bit. I mean, what a
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  Speaker 2: great team you got, like the Puka Chalk. I mean,
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: that dude's a grown That dude's a grown ass man.
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  Speaker 2: I still, I don't know. Jets has always been my favorite,
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: and I thought he's the best Pooka's definitely in that territory,
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  Speaker 2: and I wouldn't argue if anyone had him above or
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: chases up there too.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I had me thinking yesterday because I
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  Speaker 3: know Tamba was on Stafford and I ended up playing
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: a little bit of Stafford, you know, after the show Yester,
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: I didn't have any and that's the one thing I
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: always do on the show. I'll take notes of what
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: you guys are saying and make adjustments my playpools. I
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: did add him in. I just got me thinking, it's
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: like this dude, throughout his career has just done such
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: a phenomenal job making taking wide receiver ones and making
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  Speaker 3: them the wide receiver number one in the NFL, like
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  Speaker 3: what he did with Calvin Johnson, what he's doing now
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  Speaker 3: with with Puka. I mean, he does a really really
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  Speaker 3: good Cooper Cup as well. I mean it's just it's
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  Speaker 3: like he takes these guys who appear to be the best,
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  Speaker 3: you know, one of the best wide receivers in football
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  Speaker 3: and then just takes him to the next level where
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: there they are the best wide receiver in football. And
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: that's like right now where Pooka is obviously, like with
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  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, unfortunate situation with Burrow being out. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure Burrow was in, it would be close between
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  Speaker 3: those two, but right now it's it's Puka and I
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  Speaker 3: don't see it changing anytime soon. I mean, that connection
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  Speaker 3: is I don't even know some of the players, Like,
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  Speaker 3: how do you even begin to try to defend that?
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  Speaker 3: You know, the touchdown was just so easy that he had.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he was already like eleven for at the
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  Speaker 3: time and then just boom, little slant touchdown, Like how
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: do you even start to try to defend that? It's impressive?
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  Speaker 2: Too big, too fast, too strong, plays too hard and
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  Speaker 2: shout out Stafford. I mean, no one's as tough as
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Stafford out there. He just gets the ball out so fast.
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  Speaker 2: He's such a puts it where it needs to be
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  Speaker 2: a guy that's not mobile, but it's been He's found
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  Speaker 2: a way to survive in the NFL and do more
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  Speaker 2: than survive for a long time without really having legs.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's fun to watch for sure.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll.
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  Speaker 2: Talk Yeah, mass memobs tomorrow, fun MLB playoffs, the NBA
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  Speaker 2: will be here, Mma, NASCAR, NFL. It's the best time
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  Speaker 2: of the year for sure.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Let's tell the one thing with But yeah, like you're
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  Speaker 3: kind of talking about, like with the salary and stuff
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  Speaker 3: with all the guys included that you look at it
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  Speaker 3: and he's kind of sort by salary and then yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I got Jamar Chase at AK, then one thousand dollars
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: down to a Chan and then you know, Chase bound
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  Speaker 3: a lot of guys in that six k range. What
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: the pricing will do on the slate, which you can
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: already see by the projected ownership on some of these guys,
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: is people don't like leaving big old chunks of salary
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  Speaker 3: on the table. So Jamar Chase a Chan are going
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: to be massively owned on the slate. A Chan probably
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: makes sense. I mean, running backs pretty weak, but wide
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: receiver Jamar Chase has Jake Browning throwing in the ball,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: and we saw what that looks like last week. Now
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: they could do better this week, There's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: But Marchase is gonna be massively on because of the
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  Speaker 3: salary that we have available, not because of how good
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: of a play he is on the slate. And that's
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: one thing to take into account. So, like when you
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: build a team and you're like, oh, I have ninety
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: nine thousand dollars left, I'll just play Jamar Chase, like
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to force yourself to not do that
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: and say, all right, I'm not gonna play Chase. I'm
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: gonna play t Higgins or whatever it is, whatever the
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: team looks like, and just be willing to leave that big,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: massive chunk of salary on the table. If you're handbuilding,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: it's hard to do. It definitely is hard to do.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: It's hard to force yourself to do that. If you're
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: using sabersim and you have the top package and you
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: can do contest sims, it's just naturally gonna do some
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: of that stuff for you. But a lot of people play,
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: you know, probably three to five lineups and hand build
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: those three to five lineups. If you do that, just
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: got to be willing to get a little uncomfortable with
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: it because it's only two games and there's a limited
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: number of options to choose from on the slate, So
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: it's going to be hard to get difference and be
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: hard to get unique, but just don't jam in and
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: try to get close to filling out the salary, like
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: just to fill it for the sake of filling out
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: the salary. And it's tough to do. Again, it is
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: hard to say, all right, I have three thousand dollars left,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I'm good. It is hard to do that, but you
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: definitely have to convince yourself that it's the right move
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: on the slate.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely what I would do, especially when handbuilding. It's a
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: lot easier to do than like if you're using sabers
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: and stuff. You hope like they do take all of
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: that into consideration. There's so much power to sabers in
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: someone asks like a mac salary, You can absolutely do
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: a max salary or something like that. But just tell
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: your like you said the Chase to Higgins, that's a
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: lot of money, twenty four hundred dollars, tell yourself, can
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: you see Higgins outscoring Chase. He's done it multiple times.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: People already talking about certain shadowing this and that, But
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: that is what I would do. When leaving chunks of salary.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: You look at the upgrades, you can get and you say,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: can you see this guy that you're getting up all
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the salary leaving the salary with outscoring that guy, And
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: if you can, and then see right there projection points
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: about five points for Chase and Higgins. We see people
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: projected five points less than people all the time outscore them.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: So that is something I would be willing to do.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: And that shows right away you can leave twenty four
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: hundred on this late very easily. And that is just
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: a one v one right there. So let's go and
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: talk quarterbacks again. We're gonna go position by position. We
• 17:26
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• 17:29
  Speaker 2: out today, but I don't want to get yelled at.
• 17:31
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• 17:34
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• 17:37
  Speaker 2: will be impressed coming back and seeing those like numbers quarterback.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And what I also did not sure many people probably
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: know this, but if you go to filters or this
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: button right here, filters, click on it. I said, show
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: players with the projection greater, and I just put one,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: so any I mean, I don't want to see all
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: these zeros and have them checked. This makes it a
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: lot easier on the eye. So obviously only four quarters
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to work with. We go to running backs. You can
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: see any of them that are projected quarterbacks. Four quarterbacks
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: on the slate, I would say none of them. I
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: mean it's fine and Bo Nicks and Justin Fields. Obviously
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: we have our ownership. We took the averages Sabersin and
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: ship at Nation, the two chalkiest quarterbacks. Looking at passing props,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Tua leads it two thirty five and a half yards.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Bow Knicks comes in number two, two hundred twenty one
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and a half, rowning two nineteen and a half Fields
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: all the way down to one eighty four and a half. Obviously,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: though Justin Fields has his rushing upside this last week.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: He is a full participant this week. Yeah, just talk quarterbacks, Like,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: if you play fields, how does it look like? Pass
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: catching wise? If you play the other ones, are you
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: going to force at least one two three break down
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the QB position?
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: It is tough. It is tough and very ugly and nasty.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: When you start to really look at some of this
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: stuff and you know we don't have I mean, I
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: guess bow next would be the most stable option, you know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the one I brought probably the most confidence in not
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: fully busting. I think fields to a Browning have very
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: high bust potential. Fields maybe a little bit less just
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: because of the rushing ability. But any of these guys
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: score ten or below, I wouldn't be surprised, just like
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: a full just nasty. I just didn't get their sort
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: of game, you know, with with with with Browning, Okay,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: like the he has Jamar Chase, he has t Higgins,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Like he has guys the wide receivers that are going
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: to be played on this slate. Like you're you're gonna
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: have to play Chase, You're gonna have to play play Higgins.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: So it's hard to exclude him. I've been in the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: past on these two games slates, I try to just
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: eliminate one quarterback and say it's just not going to
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: be that guy. And you know, I hope it's one
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: of the other three, and I'll have a leg up
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: on the competition because I'll be overweight on all three
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: of those other guys. I just can't do that this late,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: you know, preference, It's it's boring. I mean, I would
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: go bow Knicks one. I think he's the most stable
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: and most likely, I guess, to be the leading scorer
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: on the slate. He's projected the highest and he's gonna
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: be the highest one. So that's really not saying anything.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Justin Field's probably number two just because of the rushing ability,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and then like to a Browning, it's it's it's gross
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and nasty out there. You know. The one challenge with
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: someone like Fields, I guess it's not a challenge because
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you don't have to pair him with anyone, especially on
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: this two games slate, But there's really only like one
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: pass catcher you kind of want it with, and that
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: would be Garrett Wilson. I guess. Long story short, like
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna focus in I guess, and it's gonna be
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: the popular route for sure. But bow Knicks and Fields
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and then you know, whatever I get of Toua and Browning,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of fine with. Just seems so likely that
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: one of those guys probably Buss. I don't know. I
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: just I don't have a strong lean. I don't think
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: many people will. I will be focusing though on Nixon.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Fields like Fields has the most outs, I'd say to
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: be the highest scoring quarterback, and there's no doubt about it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: The way this pricing is like, the highest scoring quarterback
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: on the slate is going to be in the optimal lineup.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, you know, Browning or two is
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: the cheapest at fifty two. If he's five below bow Knicks,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: he could be on the winner. No, whoever, the highest
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: scoring quarterback on the slate is going to be on
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the optimal team or the winning team almost certainly. So
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: it makes it very tough. I'm not going to take
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: any strong stances I'm going to play these guys and
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: just probably lean into Nixon fields a little bit. But
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I just I really have nothing here.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I the guy I haven't built yet, and I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: know I won't be exing any of the four. A
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: lot of the times we talk about even if you
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: were even with the field on all four quarterbacks, you
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: trust yourself to build better lineups than those eighty eight
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: thousand people in that big contest or whatever. You're playing
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of dead teams are teams that look really,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: really bad, especially today when people will be just forcing
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: themselves to use all the salary. Those lineups could be
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: duped a ton like that. You can be even with
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the field if you want an all of them and
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: still build a lot better lineups plus EV lineups. So
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need to go like I won't
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: be getting too crazy overweight stances. I do know Fields
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: is my favorites forty six and a half yard rushing prop.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: There's just so many outs to get there that way,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and like you mentioned, there's only one pass catcher you like.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But yes, he's the second highest quarterback owned on the
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: slate we have them thirty two and a half. But
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you can play him naked. Probably not my favorite way
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to do it on a two game slate, but it's viable.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: You can easily play him with the Wilson and the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: more guys you add after that, they're gonna be pretty
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: low owns. Just say he throws a touchdown to the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Tazard or something like that. You know you have like
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: a three percent owned wide receiver that worked with your
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: quarterback and now you have a big lag gap on everyone.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Very low owned people mean even more on two game slates.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Justin Fields, pair him with your quarterback. One play can
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: flip the whole slate there. So would you get just
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: gonna have a Field's day. I'll see myself out, Yeah,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I hope so after that.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I like another thing to add on to that
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: point about Fields, Like sixteen could be the winning score
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: at quarterback today and I wouldn't be surprised, Like would
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: you be surprised if it was, you know, fifteen or sixteen.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: There's a path to that easily, Like if he has
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you know, sixteen fantasy points the Broncos spank Cincinnati and
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: they're just running the ball the entire second half, Like
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: that's how it could get there, Like I would not
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: be surprised at fifteen sixty. So when you really have
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: in that baked in what five to six fantasy point
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: foward with just the rushing for Fields, like it's probably
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: even more valuable honestly like this, so maybe Fields is
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: the number one guy here.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like like Bone, I don't want to say
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Bonix is my least favorite because I don't again, I
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: haven't built. I don't know where I'm gonna end up.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: But just looking at it and looking at own, I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: know or prefer Fields, Tua is showing less than half
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: of that. And like Tyreek, one of these days, I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: hoping it's today, I'm gonna have a ton of Tyreek,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: But man, it's just one play seventy yards boom like
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: t was scoring nine points or whatever, and one drive
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: because of Tyreek. Like that's huge on a slate like this.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: When you said you couldn't see maybe more than sixteen
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: DN scored, I hope, like when I'm not playing Tua,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: we'll get to like the Ali Gordon stuff. But man
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: if Ali Gordon didn't have his game against the Bills,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: really two of them were moving the ball. Eight Chan's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: just so involved. So you can play Tuo with eight Chan,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Watto with Tyreek Washington. There's a lot of different ways
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: to go the tour route. Browning's the one. Like it's
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: just really weird. Why is Browning the second highest quarterback
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: price quarterback on the slate? Again, pricing really doesn't matter much.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: It only keeps his ownership lower. The offensive line has
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: been so so bad with Burrow, with Browning, etc. But
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: let's just look back at like his twenty twenty three,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four performances nine YK points, twenty four, twenty two, nineteen,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: twenty one, nineteen, Like that was a stretch all from
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: him seven games in a row this year. Yeah, it
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: hasn't been as great, but he still scored twenty against Jacksonville.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: He's a lot better than most backup quarterbacks in the league.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: We talk about get us a wide receiver screen to chase.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: He takes at seventy yards of the house right there.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Browning huge boost because his receivers can do a lot
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: of the work for him. I just like, there's no
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: way I can cross him off at ten percent ownership
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: on the slate where I think quarterback is, like you said,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: kind of rough bo Nicks four times the ownership there,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I just think, to be honest, I'm gonna lean into
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: mainly these other three and I'll be underweight Bo and
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I'll if you have anything to add, you can. Otherwise
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: we can go right to running back. And if that's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do, JK. Domins and RJ. Harvey. I'm
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: going to hope Denver relies on the run game. The
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: defense gets after Browning a little bit, they get up
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: fourteen or whatever Browning has to throw that could help
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: him get there. In garbage time, Denver takes s Guerra
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to the football more. The chalkiest quarterback in Knicks bus. Yes,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Dobbins is getting some ownership. Harvey's not getting ownership, though
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: he's got big play upside. Dobbins is out snapped him
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: RB one Harvey the rookie though, and could be explosive.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm kind of looking at. If I'm not
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: playing as much bow Nicks, I think I have to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: lean in to the big favorites in some of these
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Dobbins Harvey's of the world. But Running Back's pretty strong
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and you can see four clear guys getting over fifty
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: percent ownership, So what do you see in the Running
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Back room?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I do like the conversation you
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: kind of laid into there where you're kind of building
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: building out a game script, and that's kind of you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: conversations we have on Showdown. But it's definitely applicable for
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: this two games late too, especially if you're building multiple teams,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: even if it's just five and you're gonna be low
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: on a guy like bow Nicks, Well, then you can
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: lean into the running game, the Broncos running game, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: then the Broncos defense. So their defense is going to
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: be the most popular on the slate. But it doesn't
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: necessarily matter if you have that sort of game script
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: build going on, because you're you're saying it's going to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: be the running backs and the defense and not the quarterback.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: So build accordingly. You can really play into these game
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: scripts a little bit bit when you build your teams,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: whether it's just a few teams or a full one
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty person player pool, which you and I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: we'll be doing today running back. Yet, it's like the
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: five guys are going to be very popular. It looks
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: like almost all the ownership here eight chan. Again similar
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: to what we talked about with Jamar Chase, and we'll
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: double down on the Jamar Chase conversation. We get to
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: wide receiver. But people are going to have the money
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: to play a Chan like they're just going to have
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: the money at seven thousand dollars, it's going to be
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: very easy. His ownership is going to be massive. Sabers
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: showing like seventy eight, we're showing what seventy five like
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: it's going to be up there. Basically, it's going to
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: be at least seventy five percent, probably just because it's
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: gonna be very easy. He is the probably the most
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: stable play on the slate most likely, I.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Again taking ship a nation, and that I mean even
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: with quarterbacks. The highest, with Jamar Chase the next highest
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: skill position player three points higher than the next because
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: as reception floors. We talk about it all the time.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It is mass I mean, him and McCaffrey are are
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: wild for full point PPR.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: And it's every sort of game script. It's like if
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: they're playing with the lead, if they're playing from behind,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: if they're in a neutral game situation. Uh, he is
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: active in all those Like it's not like if they
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: have a two touchdown lead, there's another guy coming in.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Gordon did he have what was it
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the one touchdown or something last week. But a chan
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: is just such a safe play on the slate where
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: we just don't have many, you know, if you're deciding between, like, Okay,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I don't want to play a Chan and Chase together,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I just want to play one. I would one hundred
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: percent lean on age hand over Jamar Chase if you're
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: looking for one more spend or a flex often whatever
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: it is, I just it just seems like a good play.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's a good spot for the Dolphins. They're
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: owing three, and I don't think they're a very good team.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: But at home a Monday night game like I like
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Miami to have success today and it most likely is
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: through a chance. So he's fine. You know, the next guys,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: We've got Breze Hall, we got JK. Dobbins, What so JK.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Dobbins looks like kind of what sort of work did
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: he have? So yeah, yeah, so we get eleven carries
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: last week to Harvey's.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, pretty close to three to one. And they
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: were mixing in the first week like this Battye guy Prentiss.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: They were mixing in more of those these other guys
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: week one and two, and they pretty much cut those back.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: It looks almost predominantly with those two, which is good
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: for both of them.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: So for me, it's definitely Dobbins, probably over Breas Hall
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: or even Chase Brown. Like I think Dobbin is like
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: the number two guy. We have the projections kind of
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: show it opposite. I would prefer Dobbins over Breesse Hall.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I prefer Dobbins over Chase Brown, so he'd be the
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: number two. And then I kind of view Bress Hall
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: and and Chase Brown similarly. I probably honestly prefer Chase Brown.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: So I'd rank those four guys probably a Chan Dobbins,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown, and bress Hall, but they're gonna be similar
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: like those next three after a Chan I think, similarly owned,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: similarly projected, so you can kind of play him however
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: you want now after that, like who do you who
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: do you mix in? Who do you play? I'm good
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: with Harvey. I mean if if Harvey's really I'd imagine
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: it's higher than that, right, I mean we're like we
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: have it at yeah, yeah, we have it at seven.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Looks like Saber has it at like four. I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: it's probably closer to the seven probably right.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: The reason it's not so like if Josh Allen was
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: on this late, that number could be like fourteen. Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: but because salary absolutely means nothing. Yeah, you're still probably
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: right with seven, and it matters a lot. Like four
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: versus seven might not sound a lot, but when you're
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: getting to those very low numbers, that's I mean, that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: really really big. Probably closer to seven with people wanting
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to get different, but like it's you just can't spend
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: all your salary, which is why if you're playing Harvey
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: that means you're not playing one of those guys above
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: because you only can play three max. So yeah, it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: probably probably about six seven, I would.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Say, yeah, and we kind of we hit on this.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: And though like you can leave massive chunks like you
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: can go in and you look at some of these
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: teams when you start building them out, like you can
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: leave big, I think it's almost impossible to I haven't
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: built the actual team. It seems impossible to even get close.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Uh to spend. I mean, I'm sure you'd be able
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: to do it, but it's gonna be a chan it's
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: gonna be Chase, it's gonna be the best players, it's
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: gonna be all the yeah, most expensive guys on the sleigh.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Then there's another one. Uh okay, locking age hand, Yes
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: for sure. Like I'm honestly, you know, I get I
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: try to get pretty aggressive on these two games slates.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: We're I'll just eliminated quarterback. I'm not eliminating a quarterback today.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I think I'm probably gonna play them all. So I'm
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: looking for another route to do something a little different.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: And I even my one fifty, I'm considering just locking
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: him and saying it's gonna be him that you need
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: on the slate. And it's not a huge advantage because
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be probably seventy five percent owned. But still
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: like if you're saying it's just that guy, like, then
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I have all my teams live because you're gonna need him.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: That's kind of how you.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Can say people are paying the rake. Yeah I don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: need that one bit.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's not It's not like you're locking
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna be thirty percent owned. You're locking
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: a guy that's seventy five percent of the field is
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: already playing. You're just betting on him being in the optimal,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: like you just need him, and that's it kind of thing.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: So Harvey, I'm fine with. I mean, I'm gonna see
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I haven't built teams that like Ali Gordon. If I
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: get some, I'm fine with. This is a slight. You
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: look at these games, right, You look at these games,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and there has to be something weird that happens, Like
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: there has to there's gonna be there has to be
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: a random weirdo that's on the optimal that it's like
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: low owned and people aren't expecting. It could be you know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Ali Gordon, it could be Harvey, could be Braylan Allen.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not I'm gonna keep those guys in the pool.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: If I get some. I get some, for sure. It's
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: like these games are gonna lead to something stupid happening,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: for sure, So you need some. You need to be
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable with some of the plays and how some of
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the lineups look. But again for the main four, it's
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: for me, it's a Chan, Dobbin's, Chase Brown and then Brisol.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on if you're playing a Chan
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: playing Ali Gordon, if you're playing Breathe Hall playing Brylon Allen, Dobbins, Harvey,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: et cetera.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I'm not opposed to it, Like am
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I actively gonna you know, you know, we talked about
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: this stuff a lot, like is it something I'm I'm
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: actively going to be looking to do. No, But if
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I got some teams with it, I'd be fine with it,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: especially the Miami stuff, Like I think there's a path
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: where Miami does very well tonight and gets back to
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: score in a lot of points and if they somehow
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: go out there and put up you know, mid thirties
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: and actual points eight Chan and Ali Gordon I think
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: could get there, Like Ali Gordon could get you twelve
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: and twelve is probably enough on the slate at you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: a flex position or something like that. So yeah, I'd
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: be fine with it, but not actively doing it.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I'm just trying to figure out, like,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and I'm not like the Dobbins Brown preestall ownership. We
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: all have them fifty five, fifty two, fifty two pretty
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: much the same.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: For that, I.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Almost want to know, like if one moon walks back,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: is it Chase Brown? Just a seven and a half
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: point dogs It's been so bad to start the year.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get a feel for that. Like my
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: favorite after eight Chan is Dobbins and I talked about
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: being lower on Nicks. I just I'm hoping it's going
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: to be the running game more so with Dobbins. If
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I'm pairing two running backs, I don't know if it's
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Dobbins Harvey as my preferred A Chan Gordon, it's definitely
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: one of the two A Chan and Gordon. We saw
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: it in the Bills, like Allie Gordon was getting significant work,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: meaningful work, early down work, red zone work. He falls
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: in the box once and scores eleven. Ah Chan can
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: still get there in so many ways catching I like that,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and then Dobbins Harvey Harvey has such big play upside.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Dobbins leads the slate with the best touchdown prop and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: minus one thirty like Harvey, who is that Dobbins correct
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: minus one twenty.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, for me, it's the Miami side, But
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: like I'd be fine with the other. I just I
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: feel better about Gordon's role than Harvey. The game situation,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the way the spread sets up, it's probably better for
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: the Denver running backs where they could just go out
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: and smash them their favorite by seven and a half
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: or eight. But based on the workload and I've seen,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I just feel better about Ali Gordon than I do
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: with Harvey, so.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I can't agree with that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I to answer your question, like, does what one of
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: those running backs go backwards? It would have to be
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: probably Brown or Breecee Hall, I'd think. I mean, people
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: are gonna want to play Dobbin because they're favored by
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: seven and a half, and then obviously a chan is
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: a no brainer sort of play.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have any lean before we get to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: wide receiver? I think Jordan brought it up running back
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: or receiver flex. Again, I haven't built yet, so I
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: don't want to answer necessarily.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I will say it's definitely not tight end, and he
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: didn't in the question, but when we get there, you
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: guys are going to see it's probably the nastiest tight
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: end options of all times. So it's definitely not tight end.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: So it is either running back or wide receiver. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: will be honest, I really just don't have a lien
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: at this point between between either two. I mean, it's
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: just it's it's gross. I mean it's gross all around.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I think I lean running back.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, Yeah.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It's tough though I'm not.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these wide receivers are tough, man, when when you
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: look at them, it's oh yeah, probably.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And Breese can catch passes out of the backfield. Of course,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: h Chan can. The script for Dobbins Harvey makes sense.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Chase Brown can catch them pass out of the backfield.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Some of these quarterbacks a little questionable. Use your safety valves.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: So if I to choose, I would choose that. I
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: don't know, like I doubt I play any p Ryan,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Baddie Davis myself, that's clearly just one fifty plays. But
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I will be leaving Gordon Alan Harvey and yeah, Braylen
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Allen is my least favorite. A lot of that has
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: to do with Breese's workload has been great. Like when
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: they got down, Braylon mixed in a lot more, but
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Bree is separated from Allen more than I initially thought
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: in closer games, and I'm just gonna lean into that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: So Gordon Harvey my clear favorites. Pivots down low. These
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: are the four best I would rank them. H's clearly
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the best, but I think Dobbins, Brie, Chase Brown is
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: how I have it after that, but no strong leans.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I think I do prefer three running backs if having
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: to choose, then four receivers, but I will be mixing
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: in both. Let's go to the receiver position or you
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: got something to.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Say, not just I agree? I agree with you, all right?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Nothing else in chat receiver position. I think it's easiest
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to go team by team, and I'll let you just
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: start going clicking the team. I will filter it out
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I'll add on anything after.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just start with the Jets. And it's, you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: probably the finniest wide receiver room on the slate, you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: buy a pretty wide margin. That's because Justin Fields runs
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the ball and if he passes it, it typically goes
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: to Garrett Wilson or Breese Hall before another wide receiver. So,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: you know, Garrett Wilson I think is fine. I mean
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: he's had two pretty big games this year. I mean
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of people thought he wouldn't be able to
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: So he's got a twenty two spot and a twenty
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: four spot, a lot of targets and that because what
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I said, like, if he's passing the ball, it's not
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of options. It's not like they have a
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: wide receiver three they're throwing it to or really inactive
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: tight end. It's just going to him. So if they
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: get behind it all in this game, which I think
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: they probably do, I like Miami in this one, Like
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Garret Wilson could get fifteen targets and that's very valuable
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: on what could end up being a pretty low scoring
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: sort of slate. So I'm good with him. I think
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: he's a good play and you know, Josh Reynolds, I'll
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: keep him in the player pool. But man, I don't
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: anticipate having.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Staying back after missing it for two weeks. Yeah, they
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: played a lot week one, like he was the clear,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: clear wide receiver. Two played almost for him.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, So I don't know and they have a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: lot of dudes, like a lot of active wide receivers,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: like behind him, Tyler Johnson, what has he done anything?
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's really this year.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because when Josh Reynolds was out, it
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: was Tyler Johnson, Smith and three receiver sets. Obviously Tyrod
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: played last game. Some of the scripts have been good
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: for him. They've had to play from behind. It's really
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: tough Smith and Johnson, Like who's going to be that
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: wide receiver three ish guy? I will say, like if
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: one of these two were on the winner, I wouldn't
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: be completely shocked because these guys are gonna be on
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the field and running routes and fields can use his
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: legs and escape so one player can get there. It's
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: just I would only probably play these guys with Justin
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Field's teams. But I'm not convinced that Tyler Johnson's like
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: three times more likely to I would score Smith that number.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I'm a little confused about.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. On the other side, Tyreek and Waddle I
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: think are fine, Like I've still had I don't know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I still have faith in
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Tyreek like being pretty good. Like I just their team
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: has been a disaster to start the year. Like I think,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: like if they can just get something going, like I
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: think he could just kind of take off. The targets
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: are still there, just they have not really had the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: big play upside. They had a twenty one yard catch
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: in week one, he had a nineteen yard These are
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: his longest catches a nineteen or in week three and
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: at like a forty seven yard catch in week two.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I think he gets loose here at some point. So
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I do like Tyrie quite a bit Wattle. You know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I'll have some not super thrilled to play him, but
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: he's fine on the slate. And then my favorite cheapy
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: by far is Malik Washington and he's thirty five hundred,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: using him in a lot of different formations. I hope
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: the ownership remains true. We're showing nine. Saber has it
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: at four. I do think it's probably closer to the nine,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: but to me, I hope it's low. I hope it's lower.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: And people just jamming the reason why all these chief
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: guys are showing up with such low ownership, because you
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: just don't need it to complete a roster, like you
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: just don't need it. So everyone's gonna go up. I
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: hope that does keep Mileiku Washington in check because they're
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: doing some some weird things with them. They're getting him
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: the ball in the red zone. They'll use them on
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: like end to rounds and things like that. Thirty five
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: hundred like to me is too cheap. So he's by
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: far my favorite cheap wide receiver option on the slate.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Hope the ownership stays in check. I think I think
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: it will with the Bengals. Yeah, Jamar Chase Higgins, be
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: careful though, Like I said, how you play Jamar Chase?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Like if you're filling rounding out a roster and it's
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: already pretty popular, all right, Let's say you're playing I
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: don't know, you're playing Sutton, You're playing a Chan, you're
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: playing bow No, yeah, if you're doing all that, and
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: like you you're just finishing out your wide receiver spot
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: and you have the money for Jamar Chase, Like, find
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: a way to not play Jamar Chase, Like, find a
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: way to do it, all right, because like it is,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: everyone's going to be doing that. And that's why the
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: ownership is so high in Chase. It's not because they
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: love him as a play Tonight, with Browning at quarterback,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: it's just because you're gonna be able to play him
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: because solid salary allows it, and maybe at the end
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: of the day it is the right play. But more
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: times than not, in my eyes, I just don't think
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: it is the right play because you're gonna be You're
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: gonna have to beat so many people at the end
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: because those combinations are going to be so prevalent on
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: other rosters. So i'd be careful with how you play
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. I think how you can obviously playing him
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: like we're playing him, there's no doubt, but how you
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: play him, I think is very very important. Higgins is fine,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: and with Browning, it's tough to get excited about anyone
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: else on the Bengals passing team. Yo Si Vosh, I
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: just can't. I can't do it. Broncos Courtland Sutton, I
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: think's phenomenal. Play Troy Franklin another cheap value forty one hundred.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: What are we showing for him? So he's the one.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: So that's probably why Malik Washington's not getting much because
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: people are just gonna jam Troy Franklin and Troy frankl
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: has been fine. I think he's a fine option. I'll
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: be using him, but I'm not gonna get like way
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: overweight on Troy Franklin. If the ownership difference between Troy
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Franklin and Malik Washington is as much as we're showing,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I'll definitely be making a play on Washington over Franklin.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: And Marvin Mims is kind of like the only questionable
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: guy or impactful questionable guy. But he did practice in full.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: I'm guessing he plays. I think so. Yeah, he practiced
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: in full Thursday and Friday, limited on Saturday. I think
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: he plays. But we'll obviously, you know, get that news
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: before Locke. So I think he's in and he's fine
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: too big play upside. I'm good with him, but I
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: don't know. Something tells me it's the Miami passing attack.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Now that we're talking through this, I like the Miami
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: pass catchers today and the Slayer thing.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely with you. There a couple of things that
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: stands out to me. Marvin Mims three point six k
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: got missed twice on deep touchdowns. I mean, this guy
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: is just a speedster. One play gets behind the defense.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: If I'm playing bow Knicks, I do like playing Mims
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: in a lot of those teams because it's just the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: one play sixty yards boom, you get all the points.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Whereas when I'm fading bow Nicks, I'm hoping it's more
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: of the run game short passes. That way, he's forty percent.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: He's the Chalk's quarterback on the slate, two game slates.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I really want to think about how to get different
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: when using them. Courtland Sutton's an absolute man like bill.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: The Jamar Chase team dropped down to Courtland Sutton, leave
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: nineteen hundred. You're giving up two projection points and you
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: just left nineteen hundred dollars. Easy ways to get different.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That's what we keep saying. Salary is pretty irrelevant, and
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: that is why Chase is going to get so much.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: But Marvin mims huge play upside, and then when he
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: does fully get there, it feels more likely bow Knicks
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: gets there. I love your Washington call. I mean he
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I think he got stopped like the three
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: or four on the first drive against Buffalo last week.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Just the slot guy, gadget guy goes in motion, get
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: them the ball quick, get him in space. He can
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: make some plays. So I like that a lot. Reynolds
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yoshi Vas. These are guys that I'm just gonna be.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be in my pool. When I play Yoshi Vash,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I'm probably more likely to play Browning Reynolds for fields.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Part of the reason I say that is like, even
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: if they get eight points on the slate, because salary
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't really matter, it might not be optimal. I want
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: them to truly hit their ceiling, which probably means they
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: have to get in the box. And if they get
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: in the box, their quarterback is more likely to score
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen nineteen, which could be enough. So all of
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: them single digits down here, they help you get different
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: pair them with your quarterback. It almost forces you to
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: leave chunks of money and then you can get a
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: lot chalkier after that. So I most definitely will be
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: playing the Washington Mims Reynolds of the world Yoshi Vas,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: even though I'm not too excited about that. Mims Washington
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: my clear favorites. Yeah, I don't really know if I
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: have like a strong lean on to fade in this range.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: They're all solid. It's like when I play two, I'm
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: more likely to play Tyrek and Waddle Browning with Chase
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: et cetera. I kind of think like comparing yesterday's slate,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: which is hard to do, but Puka the clear chalk there,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: but no one was playing Stafford Jamar Chase the clear
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: chalk your receiver, but no one really playing Browning Again.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: You can just get a wide receiver screen to Chase
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: or a post or whatever, and he just takes it
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: seventy yards himself because he's so good there. So when
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I am again playing Higgins, Yoshi, Chase, I'm probably more
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: likely to play Browning. With that being said, I'll clearly
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: play Chase as a one off, just because the nature
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: of the slates, having all the money in the world
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: in full point PPR, I don't think I really have
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: anything else to add, Like Nick Westbrook Akine, is he
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: finally gonna get in the box? You playing any of him?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: No? I don't think so. Yeah, so yo, this isn't
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: the four Yeah.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Not on the Titans. Yeah, the Yoshi's, Reynolds, Nim's, Washington's
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: of the world. You can get different there, or if
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you just don't play Chase and you leave even more money,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Wild can outscore them, Higgins can out score them, Something
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: can out score them, and you can go that way.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I got nothing else there. Tight end position. You already
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: hinted at it earlier. It couldnt be any grosser. Evan
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Ingram the highest at three point seven K. Looking at ownership,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: we have three guys all getting some Gasecki, Ingram, Mason Taylor,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know Ingram's first game back. Kaseki seems like
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: the best pass on. Evan Ingram's the best real tight end.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Kaseeky's actually a solid pass catcher. But Drew Sample and
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Tanner Hudson will be back for this one. There is
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: no no offense. So when fant was mixing in, they
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: have three tight ends. Now there's no fans. There is
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Tanner Hudson, though I have no clue. I mean, Mason
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Taylor Waller his first game back, he'll be on a
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: pitch count. We're not playing two tight ends. But which
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: one of these tight ends is your favorite?
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: None? I mean, and this is as ugly as it gets,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: like just I guess, I guess. The one thing is
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: at least there's not just like uh Brock Bauers or
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Tyler Warren on this late where everyone's just I just
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: playing him like they're all shitty in their own way,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and you gotta play one and I hopefully won't be
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: playing too. I'm obviously gonna run my teams, and I
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: don't want this to be my flex spot. I don't know, man,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: like I guess Josechi because fans out like it would
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: be my guy Evan Ingram, Mason Taylor, Uh maybe a little.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, this position could be one with seven fantasy points.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I mean honestly, like one touchdown could win the position.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: If someone has a catching a touchdown, that could potentially
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: win the position tonight, which is is wild. So I
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: guess considering that, like I'm gonna include even those twenty
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: five hundred dollars guys, you know, uh Connor sample Troutman,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: not gonna play a ton of them, But like seven
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: could win this position, which is crazy to say. I
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: don't know. I'll just you know, run it and see
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: what I get. If I had to pick one guy
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: to be the guy. I guess it's just sucky because
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: they're probably playing from behind, you know, backup quarterback maybe
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: looking in the middle of the field, and you have
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the injury with fans, so I don't know, whatever.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Four point five could win this position, and you made
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: it like, yeah, yeah, I do.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I can see all these guys pretty much getting a blank.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Gaseki's in a three way split. Evan Ingram's first game
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: back could be up a lot. Mason Taylor is my
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: favorite and Ad just kind of hit on it, but
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: second in routes for the Jets. Obviously there is justin field,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: like when wide receiver two is Josh Reynolds and all
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: these other random guys, Like at least Mason Taylor is
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: someone that could be in fields, So maybe that's.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: What happens tonight, Like tight end looks so nasty. Two
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: of these guys, like go off for twenty and you
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: need to.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I won't be anywhere close to the winner then, But
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I do like your point, like I'm more way more
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: likely to play sample Rucker, Hudson, all of those guys,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: and I am to play two tight ends. And the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: part of that is if any of those dudes fall
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: in the box. I mean what we like, we see
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: the most random stuff on some of these games. You
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: get to the red zone, you play action when there's
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: three tight ends on the field and it's just your
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: guy that happens to get it, Like long or whatever
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: in the Jaggs game yesterday, like one play action touchdown,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: one catch four yards and a touchdown. I would take
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: that from any of these guys and want to be overweight.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm glad you said about the Bauers thing like
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the tight this with this slate and it's so concentrate
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: on Chase a Chan a lot of clear plays. I'm
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: happy we have such a hard position that you're forced
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to play because whoever scores the most of this position
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: is to be optimal. I don't think there's any arguing that.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if, like Evan Ingram scored the most
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: at this position but he wasn't optimal.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same thing. It's the same with you know, quarterback
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: position too. It's like whoever scores the most is going
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: to be on optimal, regardless of the correlation or anything else.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: So you need it, and like especially at tight end,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: like man like it could be a very low score there.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: You're just gonna need the guy, whoever it is, do
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: you think? Probably not from how it sounds. You don't
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: have a strong lean, but like you're fifty percent on
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: one guy or you already said you're playing all these
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: guys below just I don't think so, yeah, probably just
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: mix them in and I don't know. It's just it's
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: so tough and if someone says, oh, this is going
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: to be the guys, they're lying to you because no
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: one has any idea, Like, no one knows. Do you
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: have your preference? Yeah, but like it is, it's a craps.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, well theer's I mean him or Ingram.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I think Evan Ingram's definitely talented, but Walter has been
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: away for a long time. I mean, I don't h
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: he has Tyreek, he has a chan like, he has
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: competition for targets as well. I don't hate it again,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Mason Taylor is my favorite. After that, I don't have
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: a strong lean at all. Probably yeah, yeah, someone did
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: make that call.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Who called it?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I was just saying Tamba asked me about Chubb. I
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: just said I'd prefer Woody. I think Woody's going to
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: take over. I didn't. I didn't expect to see that.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: That was that was a good call because I remember
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: seeing the touch. I was like, yeah, someone spoke positively
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: about him on the show.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just I mean the eye test wise, I
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: think Chubb's like I just thought he was kind of
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: passed and Woody with the young legs and Texans kind
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: of saw clear he's still the snaps were still relatively
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: close with Chubb. It just it was night and day
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: when Woody was on the field. So sad. Some people
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: hit Parlays glad to helped. Some people didn't help me
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: over here. So I'm not victory lapping it anything else
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: at the tight end position. Otherwise we can go to defense.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Looking at ownership, Broncos the clear best. Again, it feels
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: like for defense, whoever scores the most points of this
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: position will be optimal. So I think you just go
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: who do you think can outscore the Broncos? I mean anyone,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: because it could be a punt return from the Bengals
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: or anything, just the most random stuff.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: But what are you doing? Yeah, it's just one play
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: really with defense, I mean one punt return, kickoff return
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: interception for six and any of the defenses could do it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to play them and kind of just
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: roll with whatever I get. I mean, obviously, who do
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: I think scores the most points at defense? Probably Denver
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: at home tossbot to play favored by a ton going
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: up against a backup quarterback, Like, yeah, they're probably the
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: defense that scores the most, but they're not a lot
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: to be the defense that scores the most, so I'll
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: be playing them all to some degree.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I like Bengals are clearly my least
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: favorite because I think the Broncos run the ball a lot. Yeah,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Tuwa can make a lot of mistakes, so that like
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: seeing the Jets as the second lowest own, I'm totally
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: fine with that. Dolphins against fields, fields like to run
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: around great plays in the backfield that has opportunities for
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: some points. So it's the clear Broncos. But in tournaments
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: at a very volatile position, if you're getting chalk or
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you're playing Chase a chan Nicks all that, maybe that's
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: where you go to the defense and get different that way.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: So no strong takes at the defense anything in the
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: in far as far as like we're going to the
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: stack exposure, Like again, if we see a four by
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: two or if I should say, if I see a
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: four x two on a Sunday eleven game main Slate,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: more times than not, I'm unchecking that. I'm at least
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: seeing what the lineup looks like, but I'm usually not
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: playing it. Not the case on a two game slate.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's very common to onslaught one of these games,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: hope the other one completely busts. So anything in terms
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: of what you're going to do in the stack exposure column.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Just letting it go. I mean I do get somewhat
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: specific on Sundays with the full slate with like what
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I want to see, not specific, but I will like
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: you kind of exclude some of the stuff I don't like.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: See how many like no quarterback stack? Dude? Am I
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: getting like I'll look at it today. I'm not looking
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: at it at all. I mean you go to the
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: settings and this is pre set from Saber. I mean
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: they have the correlation set too low, right, Like that's
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: just that's the way it is on a two game slate.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: It's it's pre set to to if you yeah, it's
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: pre set to two. So that should tell you, like
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: correlation really doesn't matter all that much on the slate.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: You're just picking guys like definitely especially you know justin fields.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Don't think you have to play him with Garrett Wilson
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: today or Mason Taylor or whatever, like just unless I
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: might pop in here and if I see something like
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: just wild wild off the wall, then you know, maybe
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: I'll exclude it. But I just plan on just letting
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: it run.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm with you, especially on a slate again, we
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: keep talking about it. Put it's the most important thing
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: when pricing is pretty much irrelevant, and the highest quarterback
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: will probably be optimal, the highest scoring tight end, the
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: highest scoring defense. Correlation has to be completely down there.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: It's as random as it gets Showdown even a little
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: more random. In one game, anything can happen. But two
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: games is a lot more like Showdown than it is
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: a main slates. You're playing a dupe game. You're trying
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: to get different one three percent owned guy a Lazard.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Let's go to receiver Lazard, Smith Surefield, a Keyne Johnson.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Any of those guys get in the box. People will
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: play them in the largest field stuff. And I think
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: that's the thing I'll round it out with before I
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: throw it to you. Coming up on an hour and
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: to get on out of here. But what contest you
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: play in? Is there one hundred people in it? Is
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: there a thousand people in it? Is there twenty thousand?
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Is there eighty thousand? You should be building a lot
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: differently depending on what that is. Tell yourself handbuilding a
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: game script. I think these games go like this. If
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I am not playing I'm more likely to play Dobbins Harvey,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: If I'm playing bon Nicks, I'm more likely to play Memes.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Just little things like that. Tell yourself a story, make
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: it make sense because how the game scripts go really
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: determines a lot of the times what the optimal looks
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: like at the end of the day, So be cognizant
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: on that. Any final thoughts for you.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just the I mean, the one thing I think
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: is really important to kind of talk about is how
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: you played Jamar Chase, just because so many people are
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: just gonna jam him in there because you have the
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: salary to play him. So, you know, if you're handbuilding,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: you know, building three five teams, whatever it is, just
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: be careful with how you playing because you're gonna be
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: able to play them basically in any team, like, you're
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: gonna be able to fit him in there and play them.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: And you know, I don't think the spot's you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: particularly good, and the quarterback throwing the ball to him
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: is not all that good. So yes, I'm gonna still
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: play him, but I want to be careful with with
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: with how how we play him. Got the showdown stuff
• 58:53
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• 58:56
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