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With Stugotz & Hochman: Roberto Durán · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: With Stu Gotts and Hawkman.
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  Speaker 2: The last episode we did of Chuck Norris has received
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  Speaker 2: some universal praise. I've heard from a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter and Instagram really enjoyed looking back. But I
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  Speaker 2: did say in the last episode that Dan's question or
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  Speaker 2: Dan's Chuck Norris fact, Chuck Norris reads Braille, Yes, as
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  Speaker 2: bad as what you did with Chuck Morris and the
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  Speaker 2: Jeep and the movie theater.
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  Speaker 1: What. I don't know whatever you said.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I don't know what I said, and it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't my fault. It was Dan's for throwing it to me.
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  Speaker 2: So there were plenty of people who took issue with
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  Speaker 2: me saying that Dan's was just as bad as yours,
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  Speaker 2: because they said yours was a thousand times worse.
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  Speaker 3: Then Chuck Norris can rebrail. So well, thank you everyone.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I agree with that. I do I
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  Speaker 3: agree with.
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  Speaker 2: Now, we do have an episode coming up about Steven Segaal.
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  Speaker 2: I told you that we've got two badasses in a row,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to keep him out of order a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do Segal next week because do.
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  Speaker 2: You remember I was reading man some of the Instagram
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  Speaker 2: messages that I've gotten and or was it just a
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  Speaker 2: conversation we were having about Roberto Duran. I think I
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  Speaker 2: may have been asking you if you remember that Roberto Duran.
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  Speaker 2: I I think I may have read it too, But
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  Speaker 2: I want to play that for everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Do you recall it any.
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  Speaker 2: Better than you did a couple episodes ago when I said,
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  Speaker 2: do you remember the Roberto durand disaster?
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  Speaker 1: H No, hands of Stone, by the way, hands of Stone,
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  Speaker 1: miles a Piedra. Yes, I remember.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I remember someone not communicating to Dan that Roberto
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  Speaker 3: Duran was going to do this in Spanish.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone did communicate with them. Then I
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  Speaker 2: remember someone doesn't speak English.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: What I meant to say is I don't remember anyone
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  Speaker 3: communicating that to us, and it made it very uncomfortable
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  Speaker 3: for both of the right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'll get to that in a second. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the podcast. Just wanted to tell you and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not asking for anything, and I say, oh, that's
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  Speaker 2: great love that. Here's an interesting DM I got Hak.
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  Speaker 2: I've rightly complimented you plenty, but I want to add
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  Speaker 2: the show and Radio Wars. It's been an unexpected pleasure
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  Speaker 2: hearing Stu Gotts reveal himself to be a smart, savvy
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  Speaker 2: businessman in contrast to his later role on the show.
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  Speaker 2: It also underscores that for someone often mocked for lack
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  Speaker 2: of self awareness, he was incredibly self aware to realize
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  Speaker 2: that the future of the show was best served with
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  Speaker 2: him as a supporting actor with Dan as the lead.
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  Speaker 2: Not many people, having set up the station and presumably
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  Speaker 2: had thought of being the lead radio personality, would have
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  Speaker 2: supplanted their ego in that way.
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  Speaker 1: There's some truth to that that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think anyone gets into radio to be the
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  Speaker 1: I got into radio. I wanted to be a host.
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  Speaker 2: wife in the car listening to the show. She didn't
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was Caliendo's first appearance. He was doing
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  Speaker 2: was crying and my wife was in stitches. Later that year,
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  Speaker 2: mentioned Dan. He proceeded to do five minutes of show
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  Speaker 2: content live on stage. Frank is on my personal mount
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  Speaker 2: rushmore of guests. On a side note to this day,
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  Speaker 2: I use ed Cody as my alias when dealing with
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  Speaker 2: telemarket A lot unpacked there. But what I dm this
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  Speaker 2: guy back was when Stu Gotts and I started doing
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  Speaker 2: this podcast before we actually launched it, as with stugottson Hawkman,
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  Speaker 2: and we brought Frank Frank Calliendo on with us. So
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  Speaker 2: of me, Stugotts and Frank Calliendo, and we talk a
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm pleased to say that.
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  Speaker 3: I think for both of us, Frank has again become
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  Speaker 1: He was just on this week and when the wee.
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  Speaker 3: a massive part of our show at the very beginning,
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  Speaker 3: and people fell in love with Frank Calliendo, and we
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  Speaker 3: fell in love with Frank Calliendo, and dare I say
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  Speaker 3: Frank Kellendo fell in love with us?
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Hawk for that listener, I'm looking at it right now.
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  Speaker 5: It's on Stu gottson Company October twenty ninth two Thy
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  Speaker 5: twenty five set one. The monkey are still throwing barrels
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  Speaker 5: at you.
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  Speaker 3: I maintain you can't have enough Caliendo. We should do
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  Speaker 3: it right here on this show, though, Hawk. We should
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  Speaker 3: bring Frank back. I know he wants to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm expecting a ton of downloads for that October episode.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody says on DM High Hawk for with Stugotts and Hawkman,
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  Speaker 2: can we reminisce about I Gotta tell You. My brother
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  Speaker 2: and I listened to that four hour YouTube video compilation
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  Speaker 2: of I Gotta tell You driving home from Winter Break
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  Speaker 2: about ten years ago. I was about twelve years old
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  Speaker 2: living in New England when the show started, so unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: I missed a lot of the heyday. That's an amazing thing.
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  Speaker 2: their dad, and now they're adults.
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  Speaker 1: I know, they're married and they're.
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  Speaker 2: Living some of their childhood or they're being exposed to
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  Speaker 2: stuff from the show that they just didn't get because
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  Speaker 2: they were younger.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but Otheresn't that feel good to you?
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  Speaker 4: Hawk? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You set out to get into radio to have an impact,
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  Speaker 3: not just get into radio, but to somehow have an
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  Speaker 3: impact where very few people have impact in this business.
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  Speaker 1: And we impacted people's lives.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's it gives what we do, this
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  Speaker 3: ridiculous thing we do some meaning, you know, just hear
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  Speaker 3: in some sort of communications like that.
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  Speaker 2: I had a so yesterday on my radio show on WQAM,
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  Speaker 2: was was the first day of my thirteenth year doing
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  Speaker 2: afternoon drive radio.
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  Speaker 1: Means a lot to me. It does to Stugot's as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just my livelihoods, but I've been a fan
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  Speaker 2: of the medium since I was a kid. I used
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  Speaker 2: to listen to B ninety six in Chicago, and I
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  Speaker 2: used to listen to the Loop in Chicago, and Steve
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  Speaker 2: Dahl was a talk show host that I listened to.
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  Speaker 2: In Kevin Matthews, Larry Lujack did mornings like I was
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  Speaker 2: a radio guy. And it hit me yesterday, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing the Uh, I'm doing the afternoon drive show with Crowder.
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  Speaker 1: And Solana and Jimmy. And it's the start of my
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  Speaker 1: thirteenth year.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I start on April Fool's Day, that is appropriate,
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  Speaker 2: but it's the start of my thirteenth year. And I
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  Speaker 2: was I had this moment where I was like, did
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  Speaker 2: Hank do thirteen years in afternoon drive on QAM.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not certain do thirteen consecutive years in afternoon drive.
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  Speaker 3: If anyone did thirteen consecutive years other than you at
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  Speaker 3: WQAM in afternoon Drive, it was Hank.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine someone else. Mandage was not doing that
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  Speaker 3: for thirteen years. I think Hank was doing it. For
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  Speaker 3: maybe sixteen seventeen years until we eventually.
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  Speaker 2: But there were points where he got moved to mornings,
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  Speaker 2: right that happened during our show.
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  Speaker 3: Yes he did move to mornings. What a terrible spot
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  Speaker 3: for Hank. Putting Hank on in the mornings. I mean
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  Speaker 3: that is just not what you want to hear on
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  Speaker 3: the winter work. And I say that respectfully for Hank.
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  Speaker 3: The perfect spot for Hank in his heyday, in his
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  Speaker 3: prime was afternoon drive. He was great, He was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: But I haven't rolodex. I think you might.
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  Speaker 1: His Rolodex was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: I still I still call on some of those numbers today.
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  Speaker 1: It's about to hear.
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  Speaker 2: Rolodex was like, you know, before you had contact in
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  Speaker 2: your phone, man, Hank Roldenberg's Rolodex was insane.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you wanted Earnie a Corsi on, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Hank had the number for you.
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  Speaker 2: If you needed beIN O cook at an instant notice, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: there he was.
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  Speaker 3: But Hack, doesn't that feel good because I used to
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  Speaker 3: call I think Taylor is looking up how long Hank
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  Speaker 3: was at wq AM doing afternoon drives.
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  Speaker 1: But I used to tell Mike and Chris and it.
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  Speaker 3: Made them feel so good, Mike Francessa and Christopher mad
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  Speaker 3: Dog Russo that the reason I got into this industry
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  Speaker 3: was because of them. I was listening to them on
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  Speaker 3: car drives home with my father, whether he's picking me
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  Speaker 3: up from school or just running around town, and that's
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  Speaker 3: why they were the reasons I decided to get into
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  Speaker 3: this industry, and it made them feel good. So I
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  Speaker 3: have to think when you hear stories like that, you
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  Speaker 3: feel great about it, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild, it's awesome when you think. I'm not only
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  Speaker 2: am I on my thirteenth year now doing afternoon Drive
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  Speaker 2: on QAM, but I had eight nine years with Dan
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  Speaker 2: and you, and then I had a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: doing mornings with Zaslow.
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  Speaker 1: So you're talking about over twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Years of being on the air in the Miami market
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  Speaker 2: without a break. I had a three month break where
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  Speaker 2: I had to sit out my note compete and my
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  Speaker 2: contract at seven ninety the ticket when I was moving
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  Speaker 2: to QAM. My contract at seven ninety the ticket expired
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  Speaker 2: on December thirty first, so I had to sit out
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  Speaker 2: the first three months of the year before I started
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  Speaker 2: afternoon Drive at QAM, which meant I started April.
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  Speaker 1: First, Yeah, which was wildly appropriate.
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  Speaker 3: We are very fortunate that is not the norm in
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  Speaker 3: this industry where guys like us get to do this
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  Speaker 3: for as long as we've been doing it at the
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  Speaker 3: levels we've been doing it at, and so I'm very
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  Speaker 3: grateful for.
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  Speaker 2: That, especially when some of the stuff we've done is this.
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  Speaker 2: So Roberto Duran gets booked for the show, and I
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  Speaker 2: believe it was a fight promoter who had called me.
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  Speaker 2: He had done a bunch of stuff with Don King before.
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  Speaker 2: Don King was a very good guest on the show.
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  Speaker 2: He was always I mean, that guy delivered beyond what
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  Speaker 2: you would need from any radio guest.
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  Speaker 1: Don King always delivered. He gave you Max Don King,
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  Speaker 1: Yes he did.
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  Speaker 2: He was perfect. Sometimes he would come in studio. I
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  Speaker 2: remember him coming in studio. Oh absolutely, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we book Roberto Duran.
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  Speaker 2: He's coming for some event in Miami, and this is
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  Speaker 2: a big name, and I know, I think we had
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  Speaker 2: talked in one of the previous episodes, Taylor, you didn't
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  Speaker 2: know who Roberto Duran was. But back in the eighties, Hagler, Duran, Chugar,
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  Speaker 2: Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, it.
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  Speaker 1: Was all about the middleweights.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Hearns's nickname hit Man, hit Man Man Hearns.
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  Speaker 1: Ernie Shavers.
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  Speaker 2: He really wasn't in that group, but I just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to mention Ernie Shavers Savers.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Hank forty, it says somewhere between fourteen
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  Speaker 3: and sixteen years as an afternoon drive host at w QA.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm approaching that, which is a getting wild, man wild.
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  Speaker 1: If I told you one day.
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  Speaker 3: That you would host more consecutive years after new Drive
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  Speaker 3: than the hammer you would out of the room.
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  Speaker 1: Would not believe it. Literally would not believe it. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations man, and much the way that people suggested BAM
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  Speaker 2: should have come out of the game at eighty points.
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  Speaker 2: In deference to Code eighty one, I'm going to hang
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  Speaker 2: it up before I get to that sixteenth year.
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  Speaker 1: In deference to Hank, are you really it's a lottery.
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  Speaker 1: If you win the lottery, you're not going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, for those who are big
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  Speaker 2: you know radio fans from Miami from back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Bell is the general manager at WQAM who hired
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  Speaker 2: me away from seven ninety. The ticket Joe Bell had
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  Speaker 2: tried to hire you and Dan and Joe Bell was
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  Speaker 2: a market mainstay at QAM.
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  Speaker 1: He left and he went.
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  Speaker 2: To work in the Philadelphia market for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. But I'm still friendly
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  Speaker 2: with him. I talk with them every April First, because
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  Speaker 2: we signed my contract. I couldn't even sign a contract
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  Speaker 2: during my note compete, so we met at midnight at
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  Speaker 2: a Denny's on April first. I went on the air
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  Speaker 2: that day at two in the afternoon, but we met
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  Speaker 2: at midnight at a Denny's to sign my contract.
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  Speaker 1: So every April First I talked.
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  Speaker 2: With Joe Bell and we reminisce about that day in
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  Speaker 2: my career starting at QAM.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Bell, just as.
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  Speaker 2: An Aside, suffered a heart attack a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: has had a pacemaker installed, had some corrective surgery.
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  Speaker 1: He is on the mend.
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  Speaker 2: So those of you who used to listen to QAM,
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  Speaker 2: Hank used to call him, or Neil Rodgers used to
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  Speaker 2: call him Jolly Joe Bell. He used to make fun
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  Speaker 2: of his weight all the time, and he ended up
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  Speaker 2: losing a lot of weight. He's been skinny for many
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  Speaker 2: many years now. But yeah, on the men from a
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  Speaker 2: little heart.
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  Speaker 3: Issue, they would make fun of him. That's what hosts do.
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  Speaker 3: They make fun of management. But Joe Ball was excellent
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  Speaker 3: at his job. He was very good, right, Yeah, he was.
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  Speaker 3: So you've spoken to him thirteen times, is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Once a year. First, what you order at Denny's that night?
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember?
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  Speaker 2: So I remember what he ordered? I don't think I
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  Speaker 2: was very hungry. It was midnight.
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  Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna have to do my friend
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  Speaker 1: show on QAM, like, but I couldn't wait till the
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  Speaker 1: next morning.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he ordered a hangar steak right at Denny's
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  Speaker 2: at midnike. But he was a hillbilly, like Joe Bell
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  Speaker 2: was a hillbilly. Yes, And he ordered a hangar steak. So,
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  Speaker 2: this real thin steak, and it looked exactly like you
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  Speaker 2: would imagine it would look coming out of the kitchen
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  Speaker 2: at Denny's at midnight, and like nothing you would ever eat.
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  Speaker 2: And he took a few bites, and then he took
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  Speaker 2: the salt shaker right and he poured.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Salt all over it.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: And that's so he wouldn't eat anymore. That's how he
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: lost all that weight.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: He so he would so much salt on it. We
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: get the enjoyment of eating some of his meal.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: This is because I had several meals with him, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: then when he wanted to be done eating, he would
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: unscrew the top of the salt shaker and pour the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: salt all over whatever he was eating, and then he
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: couldn't eat it any longer.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Well, he would salt it out. He would, he would
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: over salt it. That's I'm gonna try that. It's not
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: a bad methodology.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say he just dripped
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: it in salt. I was gonna say, hence the ticker issues.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm glad away. Well, yes, here it is.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: This is Roberto Durand so now you know, when we'd
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: have big guests coming up on the show, there'd be
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a little buzz of activity and Dan would be looking
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: back towards the glass because we'd try to time it out. Obviously,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you come back from a break and then it's like, okay,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: we're ready, do we have him on the phone, And
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I'd be talking to him and I was probably my
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: guess is I just said, are you there, Roberto? Yes, okay,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be on. Dan Lebtard is the name of
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the host. His his co host is Stu Gotts. Okay,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: put them on hold. I give you and Dan the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: thumbs up, the yes and the okay.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: He speaks English, you're thinking, I need to tell Dan
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and Stu anything.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: We're good at here.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, And because we're already back from commercial break,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: it's not like I'm trying to get him to record
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a drop, so this is quick. He's probably like, hey,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: we got him, all right, let's go, let's go. We've
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: been waiting for him to call in and and here's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: what transpires.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: Roberto, how do you react when you're walking around and
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: you are a very famous fighter, you are a very
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: good fighter, Monos de Piedra hands of Stone. How do
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: you react when you're walking around and people shout at you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: An glaze much?
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, that would have been a good thing to know
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: before we started this. Let's play for him.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: You're the way up. Evander Holyfield and l What I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: asked is.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Evander Holyfield when he was on with us this is
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: a disaster. When he was on with us, Evander Holyfield,
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: I asked him about his workout regimen. I'm not now
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: going to get Roberto Duran to comment on it. Roberto
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: my my sentiments exactly. Roberto Durant joins us on seven
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: ninety the ticket. I've begun sweating profusely. I am sweating.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: I am sweating through my shirt because nobody told me
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: that this was gonna happen.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: All right, Roberto, thank you so much for being on.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: What's up? Okay? Thank you? Did you know how silent
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I was? What were you gonna do? It was?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: It was? It was, I mean talk about sweating. We're
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: all sweating. And here's the funny thing about Dan. You
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: know that Evander Holyfield sound that he played there, We
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: had played it a million times.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Remember we had a vander Vander Holyfield on. He couldn't
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: string two sentences together.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so messed up, he couldn't string two
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: sentences together. And Dana asked him by his workout regimen
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and he answered with this, I know. And we we
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: would play that for everyone, and we.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Would play it for any guest who came on.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: We would say, hey, listen to what Evander Holyfield's exercise
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: regimen is and see how it compares to yours. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: we play that clip and everybody would be like, I
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: don't understand what he's saying, which was the joke. The
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: fact that Dan went through with it and still did
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: it while while the whole interview is up in flames,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: is just a testament to how panicked he was.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, because he couldn't understand Dan.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: How the hell is he going to get the joke
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of the Evander Holyfield clip.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: But he was reeling. He was in a tough spot,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and then he went to reset.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: He thought he was going to continue with Duran, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: then he ended up not doing it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: But not your listen. I hope it doesn't haunt you.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't keep you up at night. He
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: did say yes, and okay, I mean and then and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: then Roberto Duran.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: At the end, he realizes this is terrible and he's like,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I try English, Nah, Jack, We're good.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Chance.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Should have played a game of yes or no with them.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I play it one more time.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Because the way that Dan just launches into the Evander
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Holyfield sound without having the situational awareness, this is like
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: one of the Boozer twins at the end of that
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Duke and Yukotton game the other night, where I feel
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: like the situational awareness may have been off a little
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: bit Dan's got to have a little more situational awareness.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Although now that I'm thinking it through, Dan's buying himself
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: some time. That's all he was doing. Dan's buyinglf some time.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I can fire off this sound and give me fifteen
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: seconds to recalibrate what I'm doing here, even though there's
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: no saving it. Fifteen seconds he learned to speak English,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: or maybe the earth will have exploded and none of
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: this will matter one more time because there's so much
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: going on here. Dan comes out of the box. Yeah,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: good boxing question, Good Roberto Duran question.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: What's it like to be you? Yes?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: And people need to realize hawk that Dan is a perfectionist,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: which is one of the reasons the show.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Like he really.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Cares about this stuff, and he cares about boxing in
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: a weird way where he turns into like Larry Merchant
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: every time there's a big fight on. He really cares
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: about this sport and he's excited to have Roberto Duran on. Yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: at that time, as you pointed out, the middleweights were
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: the heavyweights.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: They were the stars of the sport. Well, this one,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't that that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I mean at that time, it wasn't because it was
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in the eighties, but this, this is in the early
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: two thousands.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Bus Duran was growing up. Roberto Duran was a hero.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, Thomas Hear and Sugar Ray Leonard that that
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: entire that entire class, that was the most exciting class.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: But man, it goes south like from the first answer
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, I don't really speak English and Dan
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: as anyone would. By the way, Dan doesn't know. There's
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the Luckily Dan speaks Spanish, right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: So when Dan says here and the audience is gonna
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: hear it would have been nice to know on the
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: front end. Did you look through him in the glass
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: and say, oh, you're talking English to me?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I mean one hundred percent that is a that is
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a dart in my forehead. Would have been nice to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: know this beforehand. That is that is an air dart
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: right into my forehead.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: He's only speaking to one person. Yeah, play it again, Taylor.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: Roberto, how do you react when you're walking around and
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: you are a very famous fighter, You are very good fighter.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Monos de Piedra Hands of Stone. How do you react
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: when you're walking around and people shout.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: At you and no one slam and Glens is too much.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Okay, that would have been a good thing to know
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: before we started this. Let's play for him. You're the
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: way I way up. Vander Holyfield and La. What I
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: asked is Evander Holyfield when he was on with us,
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: this is a disaster. When he was on with US,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Evander Holyfield, I asked him about his workout regimen. I'm
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: not now going to get Roberto Durant to comment on it. Roberto,
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: my my sentiments exactly. Roberto Durant joins us on seven
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: ninety the ticket. I've begun sweating profusely. I am sweating.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: I am sweating through my shirt because nobody told me
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: that this was gonna happen.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: All right, Roberto, thank you so much for being on.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: What's okay? Thank you?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, you are so right about the situational awareness.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Just hold on to the ball. Just get out a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: couple other dms. You can't understand you, you think.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Nothing.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And then he said to him to EXTRACTO, like what
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: do you extract from that?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Sound like what? And he responds with hah, which we
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: played on the show.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: A million times. That became part of the Suey montage.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Roberto Duran saying huh yeah, made it worth it. You
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: can DM me if there's something you want to hear
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: on this podcast Radio Mark Hackman on Instagram, or you
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: can just message me something like this, Mark Greetings. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: started listening to Levittard when they hit ESPN. I was
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: in the army, so I missed your time on the show.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I am also one of the many listeners missing Stu
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Gotts on the show. I'm living it up in Bali
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: for the last Bali for the last ten years, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: my days driving two hours to different parts of the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: island are made more exciting because you and Stu bring
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: back these past bits and they're fantastic. Hearing you talking
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: about poop shoes had me laughing so damn hard I
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: almost lost control driving my bike down a fucking volcano.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you for what you do. You appreciate that. Yes,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: we thank you for your service, of course. Yes.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Oh this is the email for Stu Gotts and Hawkman.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Is there any backstory worth telling about the Roberto Duran interview.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I just remember it being a very uncomfortable interview for Dan.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Those were always some of the funnier moments on the show.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Well you just got it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Not what you asked for man somebody. Yeah, this was
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: interesting to me. Mark.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Been really enjoying the throwback stuff you've been doing with
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Stu Gotts. It's what the Butard Show retrospective tried to be. Anyway,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: when you guys recently did some of your hokey pokey songs,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you never got to my favorite one, which I think
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: is an underrated gem. It was the one about Nick
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Saban not knowing how to throw the challenge flag when
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he was with the Dolphins.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Can you find it and play it? I do have
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I chose not to play it when we did the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Poke episode because I didn't think that one was very good.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But we will go back and.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Play that one because I'll do all the requests that
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: we that we do get.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, your request turns into an episode, so we're good.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, roberta Duran thing is funny, all right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So we'll get in to the Stephen Sagall at Stephen
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Sagall episode in the next episode because I have some
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: great cuts from that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: But as we said, back to back badasses and you
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: were and you were, and you were apologizing for not
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: having a second badass on we just had Roberto Duran.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: To be quite honest, it does fall into the badass theme.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Roberto duran Is pro would probably kick
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Steven Segall's ass.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, just yeah, he was a real fighter.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Really well though, it's all I guess, would consider himself
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: a real fighter. All right, as we end every with
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Steve gottson Hawkman, you have to name three nicknames from athletes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm nervous, stand musual stand the man? Right? Oscar
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: de la Joya? Oh the kid? So no, this could
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: be a tough one for me. Resets to one. Oh
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: we go back. Yeah, you gotta get three in a row. Oscar,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know it. Golden Boy, the Golden Boy? What
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: did I call him? The kid?
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: That was Ken Griffy Junior? Jesus, all right, go ahead,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: rayfer Alston sweets something.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Skip to my lou. Did you know that Taylor too?
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Damn it?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: God, we spent a lot of time on Raypah Austin
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: skipped to my Lou. I haven't thought about rayper Austen
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: in a long time. Anyway, God, would you? I don't know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus, I'm very disappointed. I'm very disappointed with
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Oscar de la Hoya. If I'm being honest, Pete Rose,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Charlie Hustle, all right, don't get disappointed.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: You can't go man at myself.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I mean skip to my fucking loud Jesus Christ, Frank Thomas,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Big Hurt, and uh Joe Namath Broadway.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Joey's overrated. I cannot believe I got skipped to my
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: lou wrong. I mean rafer Alston Stories next show. We'll
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: see you on the next Pod with Stu Gotts and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Hawkman