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Speaker 1: We're joined by Chris Simms here.
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Speaker 2: You can check them out every day PFT with Mike
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Speaker 2: Florio on Peacock The Unbuttoned podcast as well.
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Speaker 1: I co hosted that show with him four of the
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Speaker 1: five days.
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Speaker 3: This week.
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Speaker 1: It was great.
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Speaker 2: I was there Mike Ya live as Chris Simms is
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Speaker 2: counting down his annual countdown of NFL quarterbacks the rankings
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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six. Simms had me in and I
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Speaker 2: know you guys were insanely jealous, but he had me
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Speaker 2: in to countdown the final five or six guys, and
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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, it's everything I expected and more.
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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you saying that. Thanks man. You know
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Speaker 3: I don't want to disappoint it. Yea, As I said, then,
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Speaker 3: you're responsible for me starting this damn list, so it
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Speaker 3: was a It made sense to have you to end
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Speaker 3: it and be a part of it. So that's cool.
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Speaker 3: But yet never never an easy exercise, as you know,
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Speaker 3: and it's splitting hairs and uh, I'm sure I'll have
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Speaker 3: to hear some shit from you and the rest of
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Speaker 3: your crew about some of these rankings.
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Speaker 1: Here.
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Speaker 3: We'll see.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, I have a little advice for next year.
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Speaker 4: And you know, take it you will. But we don't
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Speaker 4: care about the top five. We know who's gonna be
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Speaker 4: there next time count one to forty three, because I
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Speaker 4: was much more interested in who you had, like thirty one,
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Speaker 4: thirty two, thirty three.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I care.
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Speaker 4: Oh oh you got Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen at
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Speaker 4: the top.
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Speaker 3: No shit, no, I hear you there. I hear you.
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Speaker 3: You know, and and and like I like I said, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's not it's not easy. You're right.
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Speaker 3: The top four are still a special group there. And
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Speaker 3: I think the other part of that too, that that
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Speaker 3: could be interesting at least for next year. Mike, yeahs,
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Speaker 3: I do feel like this is the first year in
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Speaker 3: a long time that we're going into it. Where I go,
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Speaker 3: there could be some other guys in the top four
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Speaker 3: after next year. You can see see what happens, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys know Caleb Williams of course has
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Speaker 3: the talent to be a number one. Drake May Jaden
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Speaker 3: Daniels for me, certainly. So there's some guys that are
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Speaker 3: climbing the ranks, and some of these young superstars where
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Speaker 3: I go, they could challenge this top four thing for sure, Sims.
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Speaker 5: Where did you get the most pushback on your list
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Speaker 5: and why was it Jalen Hurts at twenty one.
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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, No, I mean, you know what, I don't
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Speaker 3: feel like my Jalen Hurts pushback was nearly as aggressive
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Speaker 3: this year. I noticed it during the year, and again,
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Speaker 3: I know there's gonna be some people that are negative
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Speaker 3: on it, but I did notice throughout the year that
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Speaker 3: it felt like the tide was turning a little bit
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Speaker 3: with the fan base and even them realizing some of
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Speaker 3: the issues that Jalen Hurts has there. So I think
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Speaker 3: that's one you know that's always there. Brock Purdy at
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Speaker 3: seventeen always ignites the forty nine er fan base, which
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Speaker 3: you know is an incredible fan base that they so
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Speaker 3: they're always mad about that. Tyler Shuck at twenty seven.
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Speaker 3: That's one where I always, when I get done with
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Speaker 3: this exercise, go ooh, if I could have had a
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Speaker 3: do over at a few places, maybe what would I
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Speaker 3: have done differently? Shuck is one that I look at
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Speaker 3: to go, oh, maybe I should have projected just a
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Speaker 3: little bit of a better year coming up that way.
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Speaker 3: The other one I would look at, though, I just
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Speaker 3: wish I might have changed is probably should have put
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Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza up a little bit. That's another one that
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Speaker 3: I'm probably disappointed and made him a little lower than
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Speaker 3: I think he should have been.
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Speaker 1: Sims.
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Speaker 2: Who's a guy who's you know, maybe in that fifteen
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Speaker 2: to twenty range.
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Speaker 1: That could be a guy who's a top five guy
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Speaker 1: next year.
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Speaker 3: Oh that that's a good one. So all right. So
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Speaker 3: I mean Jordan Love is number fifteen and he certainly
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Speaker 3: could be that. And this is this is a great
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Speaker 3: question because this is what just shows you what we
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Speaker 3: got right now. Bo Nicks. I don't think it's crazy
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Speaker 3: to think he could dance around that area there. Bo
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Speaker 3: Nicks has got incredible talent. All right. So that and
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Speaker 3: here's the other one I'll throw out. I mean, day
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Speaker 3: Stroud has danced around. He think he's been six or
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Speaker 3: seven and a few of my past years, definitely seven.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he actually got to six. So
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Speaker 3: he's there, but you know, of course it's not been
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Speaker 3: the best last two years. The guy I'm most intrigued by,
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Speaker 3: and I think you've heard me say this to guts,
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Speaker 3: Malik Willis at nineteen. To me has really superstar talent. Now,
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to be able to
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Speaker 3: show it this year with Miami kind of in a
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Speaker 3: rebuild and a retool and they don't have a lot
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Speaker 3: of weapons at receiver. But he is one guy that
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Speaker 3: I look at and when I watch him on film,
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Speaker 3: I'm amazed by his talent and his ability and he's
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Speaker 3: learned how to play the position to where I look
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Speaker 3: at it and go this guy could be a superstar.
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Speaker 3: He could be a regular on the Top six seven.
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Speaker 3: That kind of talent in Malik Willis.
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Speaker 4: So you mentioned Caleb Williams could be in the top five,
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Speaker 4: and I know you've got an interview coming out with
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Speaker 4: him the new Madden cover. My question is did he
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Speaker 4: cry and does he cry a lot like when you
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Speaker 4: were talking to him. Did he weep or was it
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Speaker 4: just a little teary baby?
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Speaker 1: That's what we've heard. I'm not saying it's true.
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Speaker 3: I'm no, that's I'm so great, You're you're actually going
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Speaker 3: down this lane because I was actually just talking about
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Speaker 3: this first off. First off, you know Caleb Williams, I mean,
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Speaker 3: he was extremely happy. He's he's hit the most improbable,
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Speaker 3: most unbelievable trifecta you could ever hit as a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: He won the Heisman, he's on the cover of Madden
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Speaker 3: and he got a one on one interview with Christim's unbutton.
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Speaker 3: I told him he can retire. He's done. He's going
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Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame. Everybody knows that.
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Speaker 1: A right, all right.
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Speaker 3: The second thing I'll say is, screw you, Miggy A
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Speaker 3: for that bullshit ask comment. All right, That's what I'll
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Speaker 3: say about that conversation. Okay, good, you did hear that?
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Speaker 3: Because it does jog crazy. Wemby cries and everybody's like, oh,
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Speaker 3: he's Wemby, He's the alien. It's always it's so passionate.
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Speaker 3: He wants to be in the finals. He's so happy,
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Speaker 3: and then you know, and then it's Caleb Williams cries
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Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, he's such a wimp loser. Oh
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Speaker 3: my gosh, you can never lead a team. And it's
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Speaker 3: just like, that's what I hate about sports. That's why
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Speaker 3: I got into the job. It is to correct stupid
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Speaker 3: narratives like that. So I'm glad you're just playing with
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Speaker 3: me and not real with that.
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Speaker 2: Quick well, there's a reason, just quickly, since we're here Okay,
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Speaker 2: I mean Wemby's crying because he made it to the
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Speaker 2: NBA Finals. It did so ahead his schedule and beat
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City and it means.
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Speaker 3: A lot to him.
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Speaker 1: Caleb hasn't done anything. He spoke to you. He started crying.
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Speaker 3: I mean, well he did not. He cried at the end.
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Speaker 3: He lost his what his last college game, and he
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Speaker 3: was disappointed. And we always want our players to show
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Speaker 3: emotion and act like they don't care because they don't
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Speaker 3: care anymore. But then when they do it, they it
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Speaker 3: was just some of them. We go, how dare you
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Speaker 3: act like you care and have emotions? What the fuck
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Speaker 3: are you doing? And this is what I hate. I
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Speaker 3: hate that crowd.
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Speaker 4: So he cried a lot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I as. Stop.
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Speaker 3: He's really he's really awesome, and he has more of
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Speaker 3: an edge about him, and he's got a little bit more,
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Speaker 3: you know, I think, emotional craziness. And I always say
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Speaker 3: this a psycho in a good way than I thought. Right,
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Speaker 3: first off, he's an old soul. He's very rooted in
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Speaker 3: deep thought. There's really nothing he has in like football wise,
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Speaker 3: that hasn't thought about in depth and give you a
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Speaker 3: great answer. And then yeah, I didn't realize and what
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Speaker 3: he says, and one of the things in the interview
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Speaker 3: is just said, yeah, he's had a fight of emotions
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Speaker 3: and learn to not go crazy or get mad at
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Speaker 3: you know, and that's been a learning process for him
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Speaker 3: since a young kid.
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Speaker 2: Tyler Shock, Taylor and mikey A love that guy. And
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Speaker 2: you're disappointed with where you ranked him. If you had
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Speaker 2: to do it over again, where would you put him?
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Speaker 3: I know, I think I you know, it's like I
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Speaker 3: got him at twenty seven. I think I probably if
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Speaker 3: I had to do it over again, maybe could have
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Speaker 3: should have made him twenty three, twenty four, right where
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Speaker 3: I got like cam Ward and Gino Smith. Sure, that's
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Speaker 3: probably where it should be, you know, And that's where
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Speaker 3: I feel like I might have messed up. That might
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Speaker 3: be my most glaring mistake to me if I self
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Speaker 3: scout myself like I always do right and the whole thing,
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Speaker 3: and uh yeah, And no disrespect to Tyler Shuck because
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Speaker 3: I really like the way he played at the end
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Speaker 3: of the year last year.
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Speaker 2: What's the biggest leap a quarterback has ever made year
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Speaker 2: to year? Meaning can cam Ward? Because I know you
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Speaker 2: love cam Ward? If he puts up monster numbers. They
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Speaker 2: have a big year, he has a big year. Can
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Speaker 2: that guy jump from where he is in the twenties
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Speaker 2: all the way to the top ten.
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Speaker 3: He's got that kind of talent he does. Yes and
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Speaker 3: yeah with day Ball being there and you know, him
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Speaker 3: getting taught and another what hurts for cam Ward and
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Speaker 3: what I did dock him for a little bit is
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Speaker 3: that he didn't get to do the offseason this year, right,
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Speaker 3: So he's gonna miss some growth there in the year
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Speaker 3: one and year two as he rehabs his shoulder. But
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Speaker 3: he's another guy. You know, you asked about those fifteen
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Speaker 3: to twenty guys where here's a guy after twenty where
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Speaker 3: I could go. I could see him dancing around the
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Speaker 3: top five and then not so, you know, just in future.
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Speaker 3: But on your bigger question, and this is why my
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Speaker 3: list is not about like where it ended last year.
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Speaker 3: It's a little bit per jet to where I think
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Speaker 3: they'll be by week six or seven during the regular
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Speaker 3: season this year. One of my biggest ones ever is
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Speaker 3: one of the first ones I ever did with you, Yes,
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Speaker 3: and that was I made Patrick Mahomes twenty nine before
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Speaker 3: he ever played. And you guys gave me so much
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Speaker 3: crap and everybody to.
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Speaker 6: How good you do those You're twenty nine, He hasn't
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Speaker 6: taking a snap. You got him over other starters, and
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Speaker 6: I should have had him one or two or three,
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Speaker 6: And so the next year he was fucking one. So
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Speaker 6: that's probably the biggest jump every right, And that's where
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Speaker 6: you know, to add to those people who go, well,
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Speaker 6: how could you do that?
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Speaker 3: He hasn't proven of that. I'm here because I've been
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Speaker 3: around football my whole life, and I have a good
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Speaker 3: eye for things, and sometimes I can be right in
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Speaker 3: projecting those things or let you know where it's gonna
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Speaker 3: go in the world that way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I was trying to tell you when
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Speaker 2: I was doing the show with you, Mikey, I was
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Speaker 2: trying to tell him project a little bit, because it's
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Speaker 2: easy to put Mahomes at number one when everyone is
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Speaker 2: putting Mahomes at number one. But if you're a year
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Speaker 2: ahead on Patrick Mahomes, oh you are the man, Sims.
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Speaker 2: That's why I was telling you, just put Schuck at
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Speaker 2: number five. Who cares?
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Speaker 3: You know? You know, I hear, I hear your logic,
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Speaker 3: and yeah, I got Mahomes number four. This year, right,
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Speaker 3: and it's a from it's really because of the knee,
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Speaker 3: and I just don't expect them to be totally himself
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Speaker 3: or the you know, the probably the first half of
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Speaker 3: the year. I still think he's gonna be awesome, you
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Speaker 3: know that, But I don't think we're gonna see you
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Speaker 3: The amount of backyard scrambles unbelievable, you know, extending plays
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Speaker 3: lasers down the field like we're a custom. So that's why.
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Speaker 3: But man, watching back his film from last year, I
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Speaker 3: was astounded, as I told you, Stu Gotts that man
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Speaker 3: there was nobody open and man that he make a
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Speaker 3: lot happen when there was nothing there to be had.
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Speaker 3: And you know, Patrick Mahomes is, you know, arguably the
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Speaker 3: greatest quarterback I've ever seen, so certainly not trying to
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Speaker 3: disrespect him at number four.
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Speaker 5: Sims two part question here Knicks are taken over New
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Speaker 5: York City. First, you'd agree I was a great guest
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Speaker 5: at your house on Draft night.
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Speaker 3: Right, I would totally agree, you're a great guy. You
10:58
Speaker 3: were too great of a guest, right, You're too nice,
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Speaker 3: too polite, too quiet. We don't want that shit at
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Speaker 3: my house. Okay, So next time, you know, strap on
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Speaker 3: a pair and start talking and having some fun a
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Speaker 3: little bit, all right, So funny enough.
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Speaker 5: You should mention next time if you thought I was
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Speaker 5: a great guest there, you should take me to game
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Speaker 5: three and see how fun I am at Masson Square Garden.
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Speaker 1: Ah do you think me?
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Speaker 3: You?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: First off, I'm bougie at this point in my life,
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Speaker 3: and I won't even go to a game unless I
11:29
Speaker 3: can sit in the first three rows. And I can't
11:32
Speaker 3: afford the first three rows at Madison Square Garden right now.
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Speaker 3: So sorry, I mean, maybe you can call Lebtard and
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Speaker 3: ask him your house on Zillow. I think you could
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Speaker 3: afford it, you know whatever. I gotta sell that damn
11:44
Speaker 3: thing to buy a tickets. I better, I gotta do that. First.
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Speaker 2: You have Lebotard getting a ticket for Taylor. What are
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Speaker 2: you out of your mind?
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Speaker 3: Well, I just thought Leverratard might have enough cash or
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Speaker 3: he could do that.
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Speaker 2: Right, There's no doubt he has enough cash. I'm just
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Speaker 2: saying that's spending it on Taylor. I have no doubt
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Speaker 2: that you have enough cash and you're not spending it
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Speaker 2: on Taylor. And I have no doubt that I have
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Speaker 2: enough cash. And he works for me, and I ain't
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Speaker 2: spending it on Taylor, So.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean the cash, I mean, I
12:07
Speaker 3: know I have enough cash, but to have a cash
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Speaker 3: and then enjoy the rest of the month, I don't
12:11
Speaker 3: know about that. I mean, you know, like you said,
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Speaker 3: Taylor Knicks fans are the city goes crazy and it
12:18
Speaker 3: brings out all the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Ago, No,
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Speaker 3: I want to sit there, and those tickets are going
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Speaker 3: to be insane. I mean some of those are gonna
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Speaker 3: be twenty twenty thousand dollars tickets in the first few
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Speaker 3: rows there easily.
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Speaker 4: The only way Taylor is going to be able to
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Speaker 4: go to this game is if he becomes shoe Otani's translator.
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, did I didn't know he could speak
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Speaker 3: that language? He can speak Mandarin? Is that what that is?
12:41
Speaker 3: Mandarin or his Jepane.
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Speaker 5: I consider you like an older brother of sorts, and
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Speaker 5: it would just be like a nice gesture.
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Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I am an older brother
12:52
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't even bring my real brother though to
12:55
Speaker 3: that game and pay for him either. So screw yourself, all.
12:57
Speaker 2: Right, What if your wife asked you today, hey, Chrit,
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Speaker 2: want to go to Game three.
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Speaker 1: I want to go get us a couple of tickets.
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Speaker 1: You're doing it well.
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Speaker 3: One, I'd be shocked, and no, I'd probably still not
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Speaker 3: well once I tell her, wait, like, if we get
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Speaker 3: these tickets, then you can't buy your next Burken bag. Yeah,
13:15
Speaker 3: then she'd be like, oh, yeah, fuck that game. I
13:17
Speaker 3: don't care about it.
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Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, I'm just saying you'd be surprised. Everyone's
13:20
Speaker 2: a Nick fan now. I mean, Jimmy Johnson tweeted at
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Speaker 2: a picture of him in a Josh Hart jersey with
13:24
Speaker 2: no undershirt underneath.
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Speaker 1: I had no idea he liked the Knicks at all.
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Speaker 1: Everyone's getting wrapped up in this.
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Speaker 3: You know, they definitely are. Well. I do think it's
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Speaker 3: the most fun Nick team I've ever seen. Yes, And
13:35
Speaker 3: there's like a there's a there's a thing that I
13:38
Speaker 3: think even like people that don't like the Knicks, when
13:41
Speaker 3: you watch them, they go, you go man, they play hard, man,
13:43
Speaker 3: they're scrappy, man. They're superstar is not like the most
13:48
Speaker 3: superstar athlete. But yet the damn ball goes in the
13:51
Speaker 3: hole every time he shoots it in the big moment,
13:53
Speaker 3: and that's kind of cool. And I think people like
13:55
Speaker 3: watching that.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten a rational because the team you
13:58
Speaker 2: want to win so badly is actually winning and you
14:01
Speaker 2: don't know what to do when you're supposed to act
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Speaker 2: like you've been there before, but we've never been there
14:05
Speaker 2: before as Nick fans. Because at one point I turned
14:08
Speaker 2: to my wife last night as a cocky Nick fan,
14:10
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Speaker 1: Is that too far? Am I taking it too far?
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Speaker 3: I think that's that's taken it too far. Now. I
14:22
Speaker 3: don't think you know, you can be wrong in saying, hey,
14:25
Speaker 3: you know, getting used to the intensity and the scrutiny
14:28
Speaker 3: of the NBA Finals, there's a little bit of a
14:31
Speaker 3: learning curve there, right, And then I think he realized like, oh, yeah,
14:34
Speaker 3: I might be taller than everybody, but damn, my feet
14:37
Speaker 3: aren't quick enough to guard you know, Karl Anthony Towns,
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Speaker 3: who just went around him like he wasn't even there
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Speaker 3: a few times. And so yeah, I think he's probably
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Speaker 3: gonna have to readjust the way he thinks about playing
14:47
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Speaker 2: Your thoughts you're a Miles Garrett being traded to the
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Speaker 2: La Rams. For me, I'm still shocked by it, even
16:20
Speaker 2: more shocked that this is the guy that appears to
16:22
Speaker 2: be able to bring emc donald out of retirement.
16:25
Speaker 3: No, it's amazing. I mean it is amazing. I was
16:28
Speaker 3: shocked by it, definitely. I mean for all reasons. I mean,
16:32
Speaker 3: you know, one the Rams in the hall they gave
16:35
Speaker 3: up right, you know, Jared Verst about to be in
16:38
Speaker 3: the prime of his career going there. But it's Miles Garrett.
16:42
Speaker 3: He's twenty nine years old. He's a freak of nature,
16:45
Speaker 3: and he's obsessed with taking care of himself. Yes, you know,
16:48
Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if he still doesn't at least have
16:50
Speaker 3: three unreal years for him. And you know, the Rams,
16:55
Speaker 3: and this is what I love about him and their
16:56
Speaker 3: aggressive nature. Is this just that you know they sit
16:59
Speaker 3: there and go, hey, we're really good. We know we're
17:02
Speaker 3: one of the best teams. But let's up the ante
17:06
Speaker 3: and let's just be the best team and let's see
17:09
Speaker 3: if we can capitalize on it and wear that kind
17:11
Speaker 3: of bullseye on our chest. And I think they welcome that.
17:14
Speaker 3: But it's one of those moves that you know, I
17:16
Speaker 3: know I said this to ust to God's a little yesterday,
17:18
Speaker 3: and just that it won all the higher ups the organization,
17:23
Speaker 3: the front office. It's gonna give that part of the
17:25
Speaker 3: organization confidence because they're like, hey, wait, we put the
17:28
Speaker 3: best product possible out on the football field. And then
17:30
Speaker 3: two the players in the locker room, even though they
17:34
Speaker 3: knew they were a super Bowl caliber team already, when
17:38
Speaker 3: they get a guy and they go ooh wait, like
17:41
Speaker 3: they think we win the super Bowl with this guy,
17:43
Speaker 3: it gets everybody else in the locker room a little
17:45
Speaker 3: jolt too, like, oh all right, the ownership, everybody they
17:49
Speaker 3: think we're super Bowl and they think now that if
17:51
Speaker 3: we get that guy, we're going to the super Bowl
17:52
Speaker 3: and we're gonna prove that right. And I just think
17:54
Speaker 3: it's cool, especially in a year in LA where they've
17:57
Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl before in LA and now it's
18:00
Speaker 3: back and they're gonna try to put the full court
18:02
Speaker 3: press on to go defend their territory one more time.
18:05
Speaker 3: It is amazing, and that NFC West is amazing. Of
18:08
Speaker 3: course they're dealing with the Seattle Seahawks, who are still
18:10
Speaker 3: damn good sims.
18:11
Speaker 5: How big of an upgrade is AJ Brown, and I
18:13
Speaker 5: guess Romeo Dobbs too, to an extension in New England
18:17
Speaker 5: over Stefan Diggs, who seemed like, I know some of
18:20
Speaker 5: the games were weather conditioned, but to not even eclipse
18:23
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty yards in the entire postseason. How
18:26
Speaker 5: big of an upgrade is that for New England?
18:29
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean it's there's no doubt it's an upgrade.
18:31
Speaker 3: I mean, Stephan Diggs is still really damn good, right
18:36
Speaker 3: and and had big games for them down the stretch.
18:38
Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, it definitely did. But he's not necessarily
18:41
Speaker 3: the type of guy that you just go, hey, line
18:43
Speaker 3: up over here and just beat guys all day long,
18:46
Speaker 3: man demand, and hey, you'll run guy by guys for
18:49
Speaker 3: fifty yard bombs like it's nothing. No, that's where AJ
18:53
Speaker 3: Brown separates himself from Stephan Diggs. Stephan Diggs, he's perfect
18:57
Speaker 3: for Josh McDaniels, you know, because he's yes, he can
19:00
Speaker 3: be outside, but he's an unbelievable slot route runner and
19:04
Speaker 3: they could work that part of the offense for him.
19:07
Speaker 3: AJ Brown gives you a guy where you go, wait,
19:09
Speaker 3: you line up out there, let's see what they do
19:11
Speaker 3: to defend you, and if they play you a man
19:13
Speaker 3: to man, we're just gonna come to you, So be ready, right,
19:16
Speaker 3: And if they doub you and do all that man perfect,
19:18
Speaker 3: it's gonna open up all this other stuff over here.
19:21
Speaker 3: And that's what's gonna be the beauty of AJ Brown there.
19:23
Speaker 3: And then of course AJ Brown unlike anything they really
19:26
Speaker 3: had last year, Traveon Henderson was their only guy that
19:29
Speaker 3: you go, he could score from any time, anywhere. AJ
19:31
Speaker 3: Brown could catch a six yard slant and run up
19:33
Speaker 3: the middle for a fifty yard touchdown. And so that
19:36
Speaker 3: you know, is going to take pressure off their offense.
19:38
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this is certainly an upgrade. And
19:42
Speaker 3: now to have Romeo Dobbs as your number two on
19:44
Speaker 3: top of that, Yes, that's what's gonna be different about
19:48
Speaker 3: this opening game of the NFL season is go. Yeah,
19:51
Speaker 3: we know the Seahawks dominated the super Bowl, but this
19:53
Speaker 3: ain't the same Patriot team. And with those two receivers,
19:56
Speaker 3: it does change the dynamic of the matchup there.
19:58
Speaker 2: I can tell you're starting to like Mendoza more and more.
20:01
Speaker 2: What are you seeing? What are you liking about Mendoza
20:03
Speaker 2: as we move forward here?
20:05
Speaker 3: Well, I just Mendoza to me, is just made for
20:07
Speaker 3: the NFL. Right, there's no physical limitations. He can do everything.
20:13
Speaker 3: He runs better than people realize. I just know he's
20:16
Speaker 3: the ultimate Jim Ratt psycho. Wants to be great, wants
20:19
Speaker 3: to be every over all over every detail of the offense.
20:23
Speaker 3: So within that, I just go, Yeah, he's in a
20:26
Speaker 3: perfect offense that I think suits his skill set. And
20:29
Speaker 3: then I just don't think he's gonna have, you know,
20:33
Speaker 3: the adjustment we see a lot of rookies have with
20:35
Speaker 3: the mental part of the game. And then really as
20:37
Speaker 3: a thrower, he's a slam dunk thrower. There's just there's
20:40
Speaker 3: no throw he can't make at a high level with
20:43
Speaker 3: incredible precision and accuracy. And that's what I get excited
20:46
Speaker 3: about with Mendoza.
20:48
Speaker 4: Sim switching over to college for a second, Your boy
20:51
Speaker 4: Sark is talking a lot, man, Dad. He sounds like
20:53
Speaker 4: he's got sounds like he's got big plans for this
20:56
Speaker 4: Longhorns team.
20:57
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, I think they're expecting a
21:00
Speaker 3: big year there. And I know, I don't even know
21:02
Speaker 3: if I know the total totality of everything he said.
21:07
Speaker 3: I've seen, you know, some of it, and then other stuff.
21:10
Speaker 3: I've just seen headlines and I'm going, oh, man Stark
21:12
Speaker 3: said something else. But you know, I'm not totally rooted
21:14
Speaker 3: into college football quite the same way as NFL. But yeah, no,
21:18
Speaker 3: you got Arch Manning as your quarterback the way he
21:21
Speaker 3: ended the year, right, they got some players on that
21:24
Speaker 3: football team, we know, so where. Yeah, they're expecting national championship.
21:28
Speaker 3: And I did have fun. You know again at Texas,
21:31
Speaker 3: we do have to go to school there, and you know,
21:33
Speaker 3: it is a good school, and I think he was
21:36
Speaker 3: just trying to make a little light of going, you know,
21:38
Speaker 3: some of these other schools that they compete against. It's
21:40
Speaker 3: just like, wait, do you have a pulse? Oh yeah,
21:43
Speaker 3: then you can get in the school. Okay, yep, what
21:44
Speaker 3: were your scores and your grades? Oh they weren't, but
21:46
Speaker 3: you can breathe right, Okay, You're in the school, no problem.
21:49
Speaker 3: And Texas is not quite like that. And I think
21:52
Speaker 3: he was throwing a little shade at some of those
21:53
Speaker 3: other schools for that.
21:54
Speaker 1: That's a coach talking like he has a Manning at quarterback.
21:57
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yes, exactly, yeah, And the backing them
22:00
Speaker 3: is alumni and a ton of awesome players down his
22:03
Speaker 3: team to go, hey, make me look smart here and
22:05
Speaker 3: shut everybody up.
22:06
Speaker 2: Yes, Mikey Simms is taking his quarterback list to a
22:09
Speaker 2: whole new level. He is now doing top ten quarterbacks
22:12
Speaker 2: in their prime, just their prime years. He's doing a
22:15
Speaker 2: list I told him to a top ten quarterback list
22:18
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks past their prime, and Brady would still be
22:21
Speaker 2: number one on that list.
22:21
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah?
22:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, yo, yeah he would. He probably would be on
22:26
Speaker 3: that list. But I felt like I did two different
22:28
Speaker 3: lists top ten quarterbacks of all time with a more
22:31
Speaker 3: of a career all together, right, And like you said,
22:36
Speaker 3: Brady's number one. There. Brady's the consistency of the high
22:40
Speaker 3: level that he played at for such a long time
22:43
Speaker 3: is unmatched. And of course the Super Bowls and the
22:46
Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVPs and all of that, we know that.
22:49
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean in their prime I would take
22:51
Speaker 3: Tom Brady over other guys. Absolutely not. You know you've
22:54
Speaker 3: heard me say yes, no, definitely not. So that's where
22:59
Speaker 3: I think you have to have that conversation a little
23:01
Speaker 3: bit to be fair to talk about that. You know,
23:04
Speaker 3: not everybody got to endure like Tom Brady, the greatest
23:08
Speaker 3: pass protection you've ever seen in the first eight years
23:11
Speaker 3: of his career, which is not just me. Those are
23:13
Speaker 3: the analytics, those are the numbers. They would tell you that.
23:16
Speaker 3: And so yeah, there's other guys that got beat the shit.
23:19
Speaker 3: So then when the yere and ten came around, they
23:21
Speaker 3: were like, man, he's falling off a little bit. Yeah,
23:24
Speaker 3: well he didn't have Brady's you know, pass protection. The
23:27
Speaker 3: other thing too, and the analytics sites all. I'll tell
23:29
Speaker 3: you this too. Nobody had more open receivers from fifteen
23:33
Speaker 3: to twenty five yards down the field in their career
23:35
Speaker 3: than Tom Brady. Right, and Tom Brady's not running the
23:38
Speaker 3: routes too.
23:39
Speaker 4: I know.
23:39
Speaker 3: We like to give the quarterback credit for everything. Right. Oh,
23:41
Speaker 3: he looked at him and he drank the gatorade and said,
23:44
Speaker 3: run it like this, And I knew I had to
23:46
Speaker 3: run a special route, like we make up these special
23:48
Speaker 3: stupid fucking powers they think quarterbacks have. No, the coach
23:52
Speaker 3: made those plays. They said, hey, he's gonna run this
23:54
Speaker 3: play against this coverage. Throw it. And he threw it,
23:57
Speaker 3: and we go like act like it's some like magical,
24:00
Speaker 3: like unbelievable potion he took. So yeah, that's what I
24:03
Speaker 3: tried to take into account there in their prime, there's
24:06
Speaker 3: definitely guys that I would take over Tom Brady. And
24:08
Speaker 3: that's where I think it's a good conversation that maybe
24:11
Speaker 3: we can combine the list and come up with some
24:13
Speaker 3: formula to what actually is the greatest quarterback of all time?
24:17
Speaker 4: How much weight are you putting on super Bowl wins?
24:19
Speaker 3: Like not a ton, like a little bit cares about
24:26
Speaker 3: care about I mean, not in their prime? You know
24:29
Speaker 3: that that that's not fair. Again, super Bowl's team related,
24:32
Speaker 3: and you know, and what I said is I was
24:33
Speaker 3: doing the exercise. I just you know, you know Dan
24:37
Speaker 3: Marino then just I don't want to ever hear him
24:39
Speaker 3: at the top of the quarterback all time. You just
24:41
Speaker 3: he never won a super Bowl. Sorry, well that's just stupid, ship,
24:44
Speaker 3: that's stupid. If you put Dan Marino on my dad's
24:47
Speaker 3: Phil Simms New York Giants team, get this, just in
24:51
Speaker 3: they would have won a fucking super Bowl too, right,
24:53
Speaker 3: So that that's where we can't just say that. Then
24:56
Speaker 3: if we're gonna say that, well, you know, Trent Dilford
24:59
Speaker 3: is better than Dan. Oh okay, all right, good luck
25:02
Speaker 3: with that. To have fun defending that, and so you
25:06
Speaker 3: can't well you can't always make it about that winning
25:08
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl is somewhat team related. We know that, Sims.
25:12
Speaker 5: If we could do a home and home I'm working
25:14
Speaker 5: on a top ten list. It's top ten quarterbacks who
25:16
Speaker 5: were labeled bust but could have been great, but we're
25:19
Speaker 5: in a bad situation like that. Joey Harrington and David Carr.
25:22
Speaker 2: So Fell, Yes, that's a great Listens, you should think
25:25
Speaker 2: about that.
25:25
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's actually not a bad idea. Yeah, I
25:29
Speaker 3: hear you. With the those are definitely good ones. David Carr,
25:33
Speaker 3: I certainly look at. I don't know if I feel
25:35
Speaker 3: quite as strongly about the Joey Harrington thing, but the
25:39
Speaker 3: David Carr, I could think about that. Tbisky? Who's that
25:43
Speaker 3: Mitch Trubisky.
25:44
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, I don't think.
25:45
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't know if I would
25:47
Speaker 3: even put them there. I feel like we probably could
25:49
Speaker 3: come up with better ones throughout time to go. No,
25:53
Speaker 3: this guy was better, and you know, just was around
25:56
Speaker 3: some crap teams and some crap situations. But it's not
25:59
Speaker 3: a bad idea, yea. I had to think about that
26:00
Speaker 3: one a little bit. Yes, Patrick Ramsey, that's another last
26:05
Speaker 3: from the past name right there. Look at that, Yeah, Sims,
26:08
Speaker 3: I like it.
26:08
Speaker 2: Sim's what I like about this idea. It allows you
26:11
Speaker 2: to further explain just how important it is for these
26:13
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to land in the right spot with the right coaches.
26:16
Speaker 1: So I think this is a great idea.
26:17
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, well no, that's what I know, and it
26:20
Speaker 3: furthers my point. It is my point of like, you know, again,
26:25
Speaker 3: three years ago, I'm Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield. They
26:28
Speaker 3: suck o me. They're bust. Now I got people tweeting
26:31
Speaker 3: it and go, is that the best quarterback class of
26:33
Speaker 3: all time? When they got drafted? Right, So it's like again,
26:37
Speaker 3: it's it can't be that far apart. And then then
26:40
Speaker 3: that's where, Yeah, the team, the support, and how you
26:43
Speaker 3: get coached early on in your career is a big deal.
26:48
Speaker 3: And that's where again Brady in his prime will not
26:52
Speaker 3: be the goat. He will not be number one. I
26:54
Speaker 3: mean Brady for a good part of his early part
26:56
Speaker 3: of his career, they were just like, hey, go eighteen
26:59
Speaker 3: for twenty for two hundred and five yards and one touchdown,
27:04
Speaker 3: and we'll run the ball and Belichick will come up
27:06
Speaker 3: with an unbelievable defensive game plan and we'll win the game.
27:09
Speaker 3: And not everybody got afforded those luxuries like Tom Brady,
27:13
Speaker 3: And that's you know, we got to remember that when
27:14
Speaker 3: we balance this conversation out.
27:16
Speaker 2: So Taylor has a patent on that list, on that idea,
27:19
Speaker 2: and so he's willing to give it to you. You
27:21
Speaker 2: can use it for as long as you want. He
27:23
Speaker 2: just wants a ticket to the next game, game three
27:25
Speaker 2: or four, it doesn't matter. Can we negotiate it you here?
27:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you have other friends. Don't you have somebody
27:31
Speaker 3: else that's richer than me that you can ask find
27:33
Speaker 3: somebody else. No, he does it, and I'm out of
27:36
Speaker 3: my life limit of people telling me to make a
27:38
Speaker 3: fucking list about something else, So that just I'm not
27:41
Speaker 3: doing anything.
27:41
Speaker 1: Sorry, but this is a good one. This is a
27:43
Speaker 1: good idea though. You can have it.
27:46
Speaker 3: Just go.
27:46
Speaker 1: You're a nice friend, that's all it.
27:47
Speaker 3: All right, thanks a lot, alright, all right?
27:49
Speaker 2: Check out PFT with Mike Florio every Day Up Peacock
27:52
Speaker 2: The Unbuttoned Podcast. It was a pleasure co host of
27:54
Speaker 2: the show. Thank you for allowing me to do it.
27:56
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is coming out on Monday.
27:58
Speaker 1: Is that uh is.
27:59
Speaker 3: Tyler Williams coming out on Monday. You have the full
28:01
Speaker 3: interview will be there on you know my Chris Sims
28:03
Speaker 3: un button pod.
28:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, the see and Caleb stands for cry baby.
28:06
Speaker 2: Check it out on Monday with Chris Simms.
28:09
Speaker 3: You're such an asshole, all right? Always fun with you, guys.
28:12
Speaker 2: I said last year He's the greatest quarterback I've ever seen.
28:15
Speaker 1: I love the guy I do.
28:17
Speaker 3: I love that, I know, I know he is the best.
28:19
Speaker 2: And you know what, he should be able to cry
28:21
Speaker 2: without any sort of criticism.
28:22
Speaker 1: Why not.
28:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. We all know we should.
28:25
Speaker 1: We should all be enough. Thank you him, get out
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Speaker 1: of here.
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Speaker 3: See see you guys see it