Latest / First Thing Today with Joe Thomas / "The Specter of the Gun" (MLK Day, January 19, 2026, Hour 2)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: We're here.
- 0:02Speaker 2: The rough a child.
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- 0:13Speaker 1: The first thing today on the Talk Media Network by
- 0:17Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, Jeword.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Said, steal met have a day at least for work.
- 0:24Speaker 5: When the son comes up drops a pet into scooping.
- 0:27Speaker 6: The non think Joe is everything a gender.
- 0:31Speaker 3: All the jos is that he needs no one.
- 0:34Speaker 7: That Joe's as smile.
- 0:36Speaker 8: He only as.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Let me Joe, God bless you for letting me be
- 0:43Speaker 3: of service to you.
- 0:45Speaker 9: I want to be.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Thanks to my dad. I'm the fourth in a generation
- 0:50Speaker 3: of Joe Thomas's. And if you want to go to
- 0:54Speaker 3: Hotel School at Cornell University, you might even get a
- 0:57Speaker 3: scholarship with the name Joe Thomas on it. It'd be
- 1:00Speaker 3: my dad.
- 1:01Speaker 10: Ah.
- 1:02Speaker 3: But I engineer what we do every morning for you
- 1:06Speaker 3: at four three four eight A two four to two
- 1:09Speaker 3: one seven. Sure it's not exactly like getting a degree
- 1:13Speaker 3: from an Ivy League college and Upstate New York, but
- 1:16Speaker 3: it's my story and I'm sticking to it. Here at
- 1:19Speaker 3: your service, where we tell you the news, we will
- 1:22Speaker 3: tell you what happened and our analysis of it, and
- 1:26Speaker 3: then want to find out how it's impacting you where
- 1:29Speaker 3: you are at four three, four eight eight two four
- 1:32Speaker 3: to two one seven. Phone calls certainly there, but text
- 1:35Speaker 3: messages as well. Here from the biggest civil rights march
- 1:40Speaker 3: in the mid Atlantic, certainly going on today in honor
- 1:43Speaker 3: of Martin Luther King Junior. It's being held by our
- 1:47Speaker 3: own local flagship state, Virginia Citizens Defense League, along with
- 1:51Speaker 3: the Gun Owners of America and the National Rifle Association.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Joining us for the first time in a long time.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Huh changed there as you stand up for the essential
- 2:04Speaker 3: right to defend yourself against tyranny with your right to
- 2:08Speaker 3: keep in bare arms. A reminder that the one word
- 2:11Speaker 3: that does not appear anywhere in the Second Amendment is
- 2:15Speaker 3: the word gun. This text message comes in your friend
- 2:19Speaker 3: is always warning me about keeping valume nearby Joe. Forty
- 2:23Speaker 3: years ago, in Central Virginia, it was okay for students
- 2:26Speaker 3: to have a high school at my high school, to
- 2:28Speaker 3: have a firearm in their vehicle. Students hunted before driving
- 2:32Speaker 3: to school or after. Today's students are suspended from school
- 2:35Speaker 3: if they have a spent shotgun shell in the bed
- 2:38Speaker 3: of their pickup truck. Makes you wonder how much things
- 2:42Speaker 3: have changed in our lifetime and why so many freedoms
- 2:45Speaker 3: have been lost. Well, it's because when somebody does something
- 2:49Speaker 3: bad and understand the concept of this country is very
- 2:52Speaker 3: difficult because it has to at first accept the premise
- 2:57Speaker 3: that there are going to be bad people who do
- 2:59Speaker 3: bad things to other people and it's just the way
- 3:02Speaker 3: it is. And when that happens, what winds up happening
- 3:07Speaker 3: too much in the twentieth century was people would come
- 3:09Speaker 3: along and say, I will fix this so this never
- 3:12Speaker 3: happens again. And that number one is a fool's errand
- 3:15Speaker 3: because it does happen again, but it also takes away
- 3:19Speaker 3: some of your rights and liberties. Our first things this
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- 3:28Speaker 3: Iranian state television satellite transmissions to air footage of a
- 3:33Speaker 3: speech given in Virginia on Friday by Reza Palavi, the
- 3:39Speaker 3: deposed ground Prince of Iran, where he said to security
- 3:44Speaker 3: forces not to point your weapons at the people. The
- 3:49Speaker 3: disruption like a scene from the movie Running Man, hacking
- 3:54Speaker 3: the TV station as the death toll conservatively is just
- 3:59Speaker 3: shy of four thousand people killed by the Iranian government,
- 4:03Speaker 3: but fear is that number is closer to fifteen thousand.
- 4:08Speaker 3: US Department of Justice says it's investigating a group of
- 4:11Speaker 3: protesters in Minnesota who disrupted services at a church where
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- 4:25Speaker 3: page of Black Lives Matter Minnesota. The Pentagon has also
- 4:34Speaker 3: ordered fifteen hundred active duty soldiers in Alaska to prepare
- 4:38Speaker 3: for deployment to Minnesota in spite of the to keep
- 4:42Speaker 3: a handle on the large scale protests. British Prime Minister
- 4:47Speaker 3: Keir Starmer said this morning that US President Trump's threats
- 4:51Speaker 3: of tariffs against allies over Greenland is completely wrong. The
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- 5:04Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said on TV Sunday morning, quote,
- 5:08Speaker 3: I believe that it is very unlikely that the Supreme
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- 13:11Speaker 1: The First Thing Today on the Tunk Media Network by
- 13:15Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, the second most Famous Thomas and Charlotte's.
- 13:23Speaker 9: Away.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. This Monday is Monday Morning.
- 13:31Speaker 3: It's Martin Luther King junior day uh And, as he
- 13:35Speaker 3: said so eloquently years ago, all we ask is that
- 13:40Speaker 3: you live up to what you wrote down on paper.
- 13:42Speaker 3: That's all we're asking America's government even to this day.
- 13:48Speaker 21: I lived in China. Are you going to rush on
- 13:52Speaker 21: in a totalitarian country? Maybe I could understand some of
- 14:00Speaker 21: these illegal injunctions made. I could understand the denial of
- 14:05Speaker 21: sudden basic FRESHT Amendment privileges because they haven't committed themselves
- 14:11Speaker 21: to that. Over that, but somewhere read are the freedom
- 14:17Speaker 21: of assembly. Somewhere read are the freedom of speech? Somewhere
- 14:22Speaker 21: are red?
- 14:24Speaker 1: Are the freedom of press?
- 14:26Speaker 21: Somewhere are red that the greatness of America is the
- 14:31Speaker 21: right to protest far right?
- 14:36Speaker 3: And he was dead less than twelve hours later. Martin
- 14:40Speaker 3: Luther King Junior, As we celebrate his life today, and
- 14:44Speaker 3: we have a civil rights rally going on here in
- 14:47Speaker 3: the capital of Virginia, hosted by the Virginia Citizens Defense
- 14:52Speaker 3: League and the Gun Owners of America and for the
- 14:55Speaker 3: first time, the National Rifle Association standing up for the rights.
- 14:59Speaker 3: And we see this on display in Venezuela. After the
- 15:03Speaker 3: fall of Nicholas Meduro his collection agents. I'm sorry the
- 15:07Speaker 3: Interior secretary went out with bands of heavily armed militia
- 15:12Speaker 3: men because nobody in Venezuela is allowed to have guns,
- 15:16Speaker 3: and started breaking into people's houses, kicking indoors. No warrants,
- 15:23Speaker 3: no Fourth Amendment protection, there, no Second Amendment protection there.
- 15:27Speaker 3: So these collectivos were going around looking for Americans, no warrants,
- 15:33Speaker 3: no inclination that that might be where they are just
- 15:35Speaker 3: kicking indoors because there's no Second Amendment in Venezuela. Just
- 15:43Speaker 3: remember that when you think about civil rights and how
- 15:47Speaker 3: the Constitution was constructed, Now would it be better like
- 15:51Speaker 3: Virginia's constitution. Our Bill of Rights is not an addendum.
- 15:57Speaker 3: It's the first part of Virginia's institution. The first article
- 16:02Speaker 3: is our bill of rights, and most of them copy.
- 16:08Speaker 3: I think our version of the Second Amendment is like
- 16:10Speaker 3: the twelfth or thirteenth, and it's a little wordier and
- 16:15Speaker 3: more open to interpretation by some people's view than the
- 16:20Speaker 3: US Constitution's Second Amendment. But your right to keep in
- 16:25Speaker 3: bare arms is unquestionable. And as we come here brought
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- 16:42Speaker 3: on around the country, and a lot of it is
- 16:46Speaker 3: still waiting to see what the Supreme Court rulings out
- 16:51Speaker 3: of Massachusetts sensitive place laws and all these things that
- 16:56Speaker 3: they come around. Virginia's got a license. Now you you're
- 17:00Speaker 3: going to if Virginia's General Assembly has its way, be
- 17:04Speaker 3: required to get a license before you can even consider
- 17:08Speaker 3: purchasing a legal product. Yet this is also a state
- 17:14Speaker 3: at the same time, we'll be trying to find ways
- 17:17Speaker 3: to collect retail sales tax for the sale of an
- 17:21Speaker 3: illegal product, marijuana. And people say, why do we feel
- 17:27Speaker 3: so crazy? Sometimes this is why, and we're all as
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- 18:36Speaker 3: the line with us this Martin Luther King Day morning
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- 18:41Speaker 3: the way, I think it's being live streamed a couple
- 18:43Speaker 3: of I am one of the speakers, if that means
- 18:46Speaker 3: anything to you there, Joel, Good morning, sir. How are
- 18:48Speaker 3: you doing in Florida?
- 18:50Speaker 2: Good morning, Jim. I'm doing okay. I got a little
- 18:52Speaker 2: bit cool here, but not like.
- 18:54Speaker 3: I was always just snow in parts of Florida. I
- 18:57Speaker 3: was reading the news headlines. It's like, oh my gosh,
- 19:00Speaker 3: do you have any bread and milk left in Florida?
- 19:03Speaker 2: Well, it's the Panhandle. They're about probably seven hours away
- 19:07Speaker 2: from US.
- 19:08Speaker 3: Oh so you're further down the coast. Okay, so yeah,
- 19:10Speaker 3: it looked like it was the Panhandle, Tallahassee and all that.
- 19:14Speaker 2: AnyWho, Yeah, more Princiicola. But anyway, so I want to
- 19:20Speaker 2: get all this stuff out. I know you're going to
- 19:21Speaker 2: jump on it right away, but so are We're going
- 19:23Speaker 2: to add a lot of knives and snowshovels too, I mean,
- 19:26Speaker 2: you know, or make people get licenses for that. People
- 19:31Speaker 2: were attacked with knives and snowshovels in Minnesota. But we
- 19:35Speaker 2: have to realize the Democrats are crafty. Now there's only
- 19:40Speaker 2: one Democrat that I think has somewhat kind of senses,
- 19:44Speaker 2: John Fetterman. But the rest I think are all looney.
- 19:47Speaker 2: And you have to do comparison with the Democrats in
- 19:51Speaker 2: Islam because they have one purpose. They want you to submit,
- 19:55Speaker 2: They want you to conform to what they want to do.
- 19:58Speaker 2: It's like President Reagan said, and you know, uh when
- 20:02Speaker 2: he said, where the government we're here to help? You know,
- 20:05Speaker 2: they're not because they didn't protect America. All these all
- 20:09Speaker 2: these illegal aliens are in our country. And and if
- 20:14Speaker 2: we didn't have people didn't have guns, you know, the
- 20:17Speaker 2: right to own a weapon as far as to protect themselves.
- 20:20Speaker 2: With the Second Amendment, we'd even be in worse shape.
- 20:24Speaker 2: But these people are trying to take away the Second Amendment,
- 20:28Speaker 2: you know, eliminated our rights, like you said, and I
- 20:30Speaker 2: guess in Virginia now you have to apply for a license.
- 20:33Speaker 2: But during the time, they.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Haven't passed that yet.
- 20:36Speaker 2: That's just proposed, right, But I mean just they're thinking, yeah,
- 20:40Speaker 2: and but it's.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Just they keep trying to find they keep trying to
- 20:44Speaker 3: find legal ish ways around what is clearly an issue.
- 20:49Speaker 3: When New York banned the carrying of firearms, but you
- 20:55Speaker 3: could only use them in a in a training scenario,
- 20:58Speaker 3: but you couldn't take them from your to the training scenario.
- 21:02Speaker 3: And the Supreme Court said, stop that. That's just ridiculous.
- 21:05Speaker 3: That's a Brewin decision. Every time the Supreme Court smacks
- 21:09Speaker 3: down one of these illegal usurpations, they come up with
- 21:14Speaker 3: creative new ways. Oh, it's a magazine ban, it's a
- 21:18Speaker 3: you know, if you truly felt that these things were
- 21:20Speaker 3: so dangerous, then one bullet should be you know, insufficient.
- 21:24Speaker 3: You should have a ban on bullets and some of
- 21:27Speaker 3: the places are enacting taxes on bullets. California has got
- 21:31Speaker 3: a tax on bullets on a SODA's Oregon, and I
- 21:35Speaker 3: think Minnesota. That's like Minnesota doesn't have enough problems already,
- 21:40Speaker 3: but there are a lot of states that have enact
- 21:42Speaker 3: excise taxes on ammunition. So since they feel like, oh well,
- 21:47Speaker 3: that doesn't fall under the Second Amendment, I would love
- 21:49Speaker 3: to see a Supreme Court ruling on whither a bullet
- 21:54Speaker 3: is part of the arm in general, because a gun
- 21:58Speaker 3: is not an arm until it's loaded.
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- 26:26Speaker 4: We the people are guaranteed five freedoms in the First Amendment.
- 26:31Speaker 16: Freedom of speech, freedom of.
- 26:34Speaker 9: Religion, freedom of the press, freedom to peaceably assemble.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Freedom to petition the government.
- 26:43Speaker 4: Only the United States has these five freedoms. So simply
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- 28:14Speaker 3: Saying on paper.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Amaze your friends. Here in the first Thing Today by
- 28:22Speaker 1: Joe Thomas.
- 28:23Speaker 3: Damn dog, We're all afraid to speak the truth. And
- 28:26Speaker 3: the more afraid we get, the more we hate the
- 28:27Speaker 3: ones who do. You're ashamed to be American. Okay, that's cool,
- 28:30Speaker 3: because honestly we are all ashamed of you.
- 28:32Speaker 21: Two.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Yeah, they're so.
- 28:36Speaker 3: The forecast Center there be so. And in one of
- 28:40Speaker 3: the things, and again, snowflake is because of how quickly
- 28:44Speaker 3: somebody melts when the heat comes on uh. And our
- 28:47Speaker 3: politicians are the king Lord high mugwamps of the snowflake hood.
- 28:51Speaker 3: It's why democracy was only supposed to be one part
- 28:55Speaker 3: of how our country was supposed to run correct four
- 28:58Speaker 3: three four eight eight four two one seven. Democracy was
- 29:02Speaker 3: but one tool. The constitution was supposed to be the
- 29:10Speaker 3: essential tool. All things had to circle back to the Constitution.
- 29:15Speaker 3: And in your state, whether it be you know, Ohio
- 29:20Speaker 3: or Connecticut or Virginia, the US Constitution until it until
- 29:28Speaker 3: it got to the point where it had gone through
- 29:30Speaker 3: all of its necessary essential rights, and then the state
- 29:34Speaker 3: would then, provided it doesn't violate any of the US
- 29:38Speaker 3: constitutionally protected rights, had the right to govern their state
- 29:44Speaker 3: of their own volition. But we watched these legislations across
- 29:48Speaker 3: the country and that's why this is going to be
- 29:50Speaker 3: one of the biggest civil rights marches, and it has
- 29:52Speaker 3: been twenty twenty in the height of COVID, during the lockdowns,
- 29:57Speaker 3: when the government said, you know what, we can close
- 30:00Speaker 3: your business. And remember whether it was Minnesota or Arizona
- 30:09Speaker 3: or California, Oregon, Virginia, certainly we lived through it here.
- 30:15Speaker 3: They didn't use law. They didn't close your business by
- 30:19Speaker 3: sending in the state police. They sent in the Department
- 30:23Speaker 3: of Health, they sent in the Alcoholic Beverage Commission if
- 30:27Speaker 3: you had one of those. Even in New York they
- 30:30Speaker 3: were using the liquor Board to shut down gathering places.
- 30:38Speaker 3: And so in Virginia we held one of these rallies
- 30:41Speaker 3: just like this on Martin Luther gave you fifty thousand
- 30:45Speaker 3: people in the streets of central Virginia and the media,
- 30:48Speaker 3: and this is a sad thing. The media covered it
- 30:52Speaker 3: with pictures of men and women holding black rifles over
- 30:56Speaker 3: their head, all big, scary black rifles. So there are
- 31:00Speaker 3: elected officials now who see that saying, oh, I wish
- 31:03Speaker 3: they hadn't done that. Fifty thousand people gathered and said
- 31:07Speaker 3: not just no, but hell no. The gun grabbers, the
- 31:13Speaker 3: lobbyists against gun rights saw it and left. They're like, oh, yeah,
- 31:17Speaker 3: we can't compete with this. But what they did is
- 31:20Speaker 3: they got their minions in the press to make it
- 31:22Speaker 3: look like, oh, look at the crazies running around the
- 31:24Speaker 3: streets of Richmond with black rifles over there. Oh my gosh.
- 31:29Speaker 3: And Philip Van Cleeve was president then he's president now, Philip,
- 31:32Speaker 3: are you ready for a big turnout today like the
- 31:35Speaker 3: fifty thousand that showed up in twenty twenty.
- 31:39Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, we absolutely hope that is going to be
- 31:42Speaker 24: the case. I certainly expected the thousands, and who knows
- 31:47Speaker 24: how big. You know, these things are very hard to
- 31:49Speaker 24: predict how at the end of the day it will
- 31:51Speaker 24: turn it out. But we're yes, that's exactly what we
- 31:56Speaker 24: mean to say. You know, we wanted. We want them
- 31:59Speaker 24: to understand it. The gun control is the third rail. Yeah,
- 32:02Speaker 24: you can dance throughout it, but if you touch it,
- 32:04Speaker 24: you're going to get jolted. And so you know, we'll
- 32:10Speaker 24: have elections for two years, so a lot of reckoning
- 32:13Speaker 24: can be done at that point if they don't back away.
- 32:17Speaker 3: So you know, part and parcel of Lobby Day is
- 32:20Speaker 3: members of the v C d L and associated we'll
- 32:23Speaker 3: go in and visit with hopefully the members of the
- 32:26Speaker 3: General Assembly. It's frequently staffers, hopefully a high ranking one
- 32:30Speaker 3: at least to plead their case. But there's also a
- 32:35Speaker 3: rally at eleven o'clock, correct, Phil.
- 32:39Speaker 24: That's right today at eleven there'd be a rally at
- 32:41Speaker 24: the Bell Talent And again we want a big turnout
- 32:45Speaker 24: for that. We want especially the media to see just
- 32:48Speaker 24: see a people out there. Yeah, we're handing out guns.
- 32:51Speaker 24: Says life stickness to everybody. So we've got all those
- 32:54Speaker 24: two to help flag people in the hall as you're
- 32:56Speaker 24: walking around. All the gun says life stickles. All send
- 32:59Speaker 24: a message and the more people stronger than us.
- 33:03Speaker 3: I know that you've honored me by asking me to
- 33:06Speaker 3: share five or so minutes of thoughts. Who else is
- 33:08Speaker 3: on the Speaker's days Phil for eleven o'clock today.
- 33:13Speaker 24: Well, we have the delegates there who put in four
- 33:17Speaker 24: bills for gun rights bills. We we have a representative
- 33:22Speaker 24: of the high up, representative of the n r A
- 33:24Speaker 24: and Gun Owners of America. This is the first time
- 33:27Speaker 24: the n RA has directly participated in one of d
- 33:30Speaker 24: C d l's events, and they've been promoting him, so
- 33:36Speaker 24: you know we we of course I'm speaking Pat web
- 33:39Speaker 24: our treasure will be speaking if you go to our website,
- 33:44Speaker 24: and the key thing is seeing all that and more
- 33:47Speaker 24: and learn about carpooling buses and all that.
- 33:50Speaker 29: All the buses are now cut off. We had to
- 33:53Speaker 29: seal that off last night the vc dot org slash lobby.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Day and find out more about that. I want to
- 34:04Speaker 3: pivot to the amendment that ramroded its way through at
- 34:09Speaker 3: breakneck pace and along party lines, the redistricting Amendment, because
- 34:13Speaker 3: you know the makeup of Congress is going to mean
- 34:16Speaker 3: a lot of things. Obviously, they all want to get
- 34:19Speaker 3: the Democrat majority to impeach President Trump, but then they
- 34:22Speaker 3: start legislating with stuff like that, and we've seen their
- 34:27Speaker 3: attitude towards the Second Amendment and gun owners in America anyway,
- 34:33Speaker 3: are your members ready to turn out in I'm told
- 34:38Speaker 3: sometime in April when they'll hold this special election because
- 34:43Speaker 3: the commission that they're trying to undo past sixty five
- 34:48Speaker 3: thirty five, you know, just a few years ago. Can
- 34:51Speaker 3: we get everyone back out to stop this before it
- 34:54Speaker 3: goes any further?
- 34:56Speaker 24: I certainly hope, so, I really do, And we will
- 35:01Speaker 24: be promoting getting everybody to vote on this and vote
- 35:04Speaker 24: it down as we get closer to that date. But yeah,
- 35:08Speaker 24: absolutely sadly that the Democrat Party has truly lost its
- 35:13Speaker 24: way constitutionally. It's not honoring the constitution and the ultimate
- 35:21Speaker 24: goal of gun control. And again I always say this,
- 35:23Speaker 24: I want to be clear to everybody that may be
- 35:25Speaker 24: new to this issue. Gun control ultimately isn't about crime
- 35:28Speaker 24: at all. So it was about crime, they wouldn't be
- 35:31Speaker 24: releasing Christmas from jail early, and they wouldn't be getting
- 35:36Speaker 24: rid of bail and all that that drives up crime.
- 35:38Speaker 24: Any five year old knows that that drives crime up.
- 35:42Speaker 24: So it's not about crime. But that's the excuse for
- 35:45Speaker 24: gun control. The end the end game is civilian disirnment.
- 35:49Speaker 24: They don't want and they want us to be helpless
- 35:51Speaker 24: as citizens, just like they are in England and just
- 35:54Speaker 24: like they are and most of the world. That's what
- 35:56Speaker 24: they want for us. They want us to join the
- 35:58Speaker 24: world of socialism. And the only way they can have
- 36:01Speaker 24: a socialist, decommunist government is that the PA that's the goal.
- 36:06Speaker 3: And we watched Hugo Shaves do that in Venezuela, and
- 36:09Speaker 3: now we're watching these collectivos go around Venezuela kicking indoors,
- 36:15Speaker 3: looking for Americans or anyone who might have helped Nicholas
- 36:19Speaker 3: Maduro escape. Still my feeling is that this is there's
- 36:23Speaker 3: more to come on Maduro. Uh there. We've got to
- 36:26Speaker 3: stop him from saying anything about dominion voting machines. But Philip,
- 36:30Speaker 3: you know the reason I ask about redistricting is because
- 36:33Speaker 3: once if the Democrats have Hikeem Jeffries runs Congress, these
- 36:38Speaker 3: will become national impositions. I mean, all these things. We
- 36:42Speaker 3: were talking about bullet taxes and by the way, quick
- 36:46Speaker 3: note it received a text message on the idea of
- 36:49Speaker 3: bullet taxes a gun and I've talked to jurists about this.
- 36:55Speaker 3: A gun is not an armament until it's loaded in
- 37:03Speaker 3: the eyes of most courts. So the idea of taxing
- 37:07Speaker 3: a bullet is it hasn't really been challenged all the
- 37:11Speaker 3: way after the Supreme Court yet. But a lot of
- 37:13Speaker 3: these states that's how they're going at it now since
- 37:18Speaker 3: they can't go after the gun. And courts have been
- 37:21Speaker 3: ambiguous about what about the munitions. Some of them have
- 37:25Speaker 3: been clear, especially when it's magazine size and things like that.
- 37:30Speaker 3: But all the other rights, your Fourth Amendment right to privacy,
- 37:33Speaker 3: your Fifth Amendment right to own property, which as we
- 37:36Speaker 3: listen to the nut clusters in New York City and
- 37:39Speaker 3: Minneapolis is questioned there, you know, Jacob Frye, Hello, is
- 37:46Speaker 3: this thing you're in? Your First Amendment rights, as Martin
- 37:50Speaker 3: Luther King said so eloquently, are all defended by your
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- 44:33Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's the most stunning view this morning
- 44:37Speaker 3: as the sun rises over the Eastern seaboard. I'm looking
- 44:41Speaker 3: out at an eastern facing window here at the Virginia
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- 44:58Speaker 3: as we are here. I'm a hundred one of the
- 45:00Speaker 3: speakers at this year's Second Amendment rally, one of the
- 45:03Speaker 3: biggest civil rights rallies, and in honor of Martin Luther
- 45:07Speaker 3: King Day. And oh the emails I'm getting, who are
- 45:11Speaker 3: of people who are offended that I would conflate a
- 45:15Speaker 3: Second Amendment march to a civil rights march, proving to
- 45:18Speaker 3: me just how sadly gas lit we've become. But the
- 45:22Speaker 3: sunrise over the East Coast is stunning. I mean, it's
- 45:26Speaker 3: cold outside. I'm glad I'm inside for it, but I'm
- 45:28Speaker 3: looking out this windows and man, And if you follow
- 45:31Speaker 3: me on social media, you've seen a photograph taken within
- 45:35Speaker 3: the last five minutes of it on x or Facebook.
- 45:40Speaker 3: But Kareem wrote this in and I'm not sure where
- 45:46Speaker 3: you were getting your info, Kareem, but he said, Joe,
- 45:50Speaker 3: is now a good time to embrace the Democratic Socialists
- 45:54Speaker 3: of America and other left wing extremists who support the
- 45:58Speaker 3: Second Amendment. And I'm like, I don't recall the the
- 46:07Speaker 3: Democratic Socialists of America supporting the Second Amendment rights, but
- 46:13Speaker 3: I went and I checked, and this is from the
- 46:16Speaker 3: Democratic Socialist Party of America's own website. The Second Amendment
- 46:22Speaker 3: is a threat to us all. So I don't know
- 46:27Speaker 3: anyone who supports your right to keep in bare arms.
- 46:31Speaker 3: And again I will point out the one word that
- 46:35Speaker 3: doesn't appear anywhere in the Second Amendment is the word gun.
- 46:42Speaker 3: And like so many other things in especially the Bill
- 46:46Speaker 3: of Rights, it was written so carefully and so delicately
- 46:49Speaker 3: as to take into account new technology. Sometimes the use
- 46:56Speaker 3: of language changes over time. For example, in the First Amendment,
- 47:02Speaker 3: when it talks about the freedom of the press, with
- 47:06Speaker 3: apologies to people who work in my industry, that does
- 47:11Speaker 3: not In seventeen eighty nine, the word press did not
- 47:16Speaker 3: refer to the news media. It referred to the printing press.
- 47:23Speaker 3: And the reason they wrote it that way was to
- 47:26Speaker 3: keep it from being simply the printing press. And maybe
- 47:33Speaker 3: it would have been better if they wrote your right
- 47:36Speaker 3: to publish. Remember what was happening to the guys like
- 47:39Speaker 3: Thomas Paine. And the real kill shot to Britain's occupation
- 47:46Speaker 3: of the colonies in America was the Stamp Act, which,
- 47:52Speaker 3: like the taxes on firearm ammunition, was designed to stop
- 47:59Speaker 3: people from public Even though Magna Carta gave the British
- 48:03Speaker 3: government no authority to stop people from publishing. However, if
- 48:07Speaker 3: we put a huge excise tax on the paper that
- 48:12Speaker 3: you would publish on, then that'll stop you bastards from publishing.
- 48:20Speaker 3: This isn't new stuff. So while states are out there
- 48:24Speaker 3: trying to enact your bullet taxes to stop you bastards
- 48:30Speaker 3: from buying gun bullets, and using their property tax laws
- 48:36Speaker 3: to continue to apply excise taxes on gun ownership long
- 48:43Speaker 3: after the purchase of the legal consumer product has taken place,
- 48:50Speaker 3: or to require a right or a license to purchase it,
- 48:54Speaker 3: as they're discussing right here in Virginia's General Assembly. And
- 48:59Speaker 3: I used to up until Saturday, think hmm. Everyone in
- 49:03Speaker 3: the left wing media seems to view Abigail's Spanburger now
- 49:07Speaker 3: Governor Abigail span Burger as being a potential twenty twenty
- 49:12Speaker 3: eight candidate. Oh, she blew that one right out of
- 49:15Speaker 3: the water with her first executive order, which created Virginia's
- 49:19Speaker 3: sanctuary state laws. I know it doesn't use the word's sanctuary,
- 49:25Speaker 3: but she has now told Virginia's police to stop working
- 49:28Speaker 3: with ice. You know, walks like a duck, quacks like
- 49:35Speaker 3: a duck, swims like a duck, I'll call it a
- 49:37Speaker 3: duck if you won't. So I used to hold out
- 49:45Speaker 3: hope that these twenty twenty eight aspirations might keep her
- 49:48Speaker 3: from signing some of the crazy that disappeared by one
- 49:54Speaker 3: o'clock on Saturday, and maybe, just maybe that will convince
- 50:01Speaker 3: some of the legislators that are in closely held districts
- 50:07Speaker 3: fifty one, forty nine, could be forty nine, fifty one,
- 50:11Speaker 3: depending on the year, from sticking their vote in crazy.
- 50:18Speaker 3: But this is what they're doing. They're doubling down on
- 50:21Speaker 3: this Marxist you know, Hugo Chavez as confiscation of guns,
- 50:31Speaker 3: and then they want to redistricts so that then Congress
- 50:37Speaker 3: will be able to take you know, their their steps
- 50:40Speaker 3: towards it. So here in Virginia they want to create
- 50:42Speaker 3: these districts. And again nothing is axiomatic, So they want
- 50:47Speaker 3: to create districts here in Virginia, which like many states,
- 50:52Speaker 3: well not many states, but there's a few other states
- 50:54Speaker 3: in the Union that doesn't require party membership in your
- 50:58Speaker 3: voter registration. So you really don't know how many Republicans
- 51:04Speaker 3: and Democrats there are here in our flagship state. Some places,
- 51:09Speaker 3: you know, Okay, here's of course, when you're letting all
- 51:13Speaker 3: sorts of people who aren't on the voter rolls vote,
- 51:16Speaker 3: really the all beds are off Minnesota. But so the
- 51:27Speaker 3: guess is, you know that, oh, we're going to stretch
- 51:30Speaker 3: out these districts from Fredericksburg and the DC suburbs Fairfax,
- 51:35Speaker 3: and we're going to stretch it all the way down
- 51:37Speaker 3: towards Stanton and Harrisonburg. And then we're going to take
- 51:41Speaker 3: all these republic Democrat suburbs of Richmond, and we have
- 51:45Speaker 3: to stretch them east through Charlottesville. And we don't have
- 51:48Speaker 3: to go so far because now you got Charlottesville on
- 51:50Speaker 3: the other side of it, and that makes Richmond seem
- 51:52Speaker 3: conservative by comparison. And then you'll go out of Norfolk
- 51:55Speaker 3: and you'll stretch your districts all the way west until
- 51:59Speaker 3: you get to about the only place they can't stretch
- 52:02Speaker 3: a Democrat controlled district over the coal country of south
- 52:07Speaker 3: west Virginia. But here's their peril. They're taking districts that
- 52:13Speaker 3: were eighteen percent by history more Democrat than Republican, even
- 52:19Speaker 3: in the years where it's like a fifty five percent
- 52:22Speaker 3: voter turnout. So we don't know for sure that these
- 52:25Speaker 3: districts are. But once you get down to where you've
- 52:29Speaker 3: stretched it out far enough to where okay, we'll stop
- 52:31Speaker 3: at fifty two, maybe three fifty three percent more Democrats
- 52:36Speaker 3: by historical vote count, you run the great peril of
- 52:42Speaker 3: that other forty five percent of the voter roles turning
- 52:45Speaker 3: out and surprising you and winning a whole lot more seats.
- 52:49Speaker 3: That's my view.
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