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ABJ Podcast Ep 67 Rocket · ABJ

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What's going on everybody? We are back for another episode
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of the a BJ podcast episode 67 with the Menace from Mars
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rocket. Very excited for that one.
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We he will be joining us here in in a moment but I want to just
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get some housekeeping out of the way everyone.
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bring in the Menace from Mars rocket.
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What's up, man? That's all right.
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Not I'm excited. And listen, we were talking off
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camera. I absolutely love to go shirt.
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I'm a huge ghost fan myself. I almost wore my ghost shirt
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today, but I was gifted by a t-shirt by someone on the scene.
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Dylan mesh gave me a nice t-shirt and a sticker.
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He delivered it to my house, personally, so he is a
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sweetheart, so I'm rocking some Dylan mesh merge for my boy here
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today in the chatter. Ready H.
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CW, Network's as a rocket, and they said facing Mike's Garros
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July 2nd for the htw title. Now you go, laughs, I'm excited
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for that. I was bummed out, you know, I
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was a little ticked off. You see how long this Magic
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master about when he wasn't there.
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But I'm glad a little a little better now so I can put it back
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out of commission. I'm taking a belt man, it's been
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a long time coming. I keep whipping this boy over
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and over. I'm getting tired of it so he
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want that title. You want that title bull members
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on this podcast both for guests. Now you're officially at a BJ
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podcast guests so I'm excited to see it as well and that will be
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at this. Smash master show in July 2nd.
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Hmm. Yeah, it's gonna be sick.
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All right, well, let's get the, the, the obligatory first
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question out of the way here, rocket.
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When did you fall in love with professional wrestling?
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What's your earliest memory of saying?
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Like this is, this is my needs. This is what I love I so I might
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be wrong or pay-per-view but Survivor Series 2002, Kane.
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And Sheamus, man, you remember he was like, like, Cain with her
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tweaking. He hit the Tombstones, mom.
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He alleged cute little. You know, we got kicked and fire
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came back. I thought that was a real thing
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ever. So me seeing it.
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I was like yo, who is this guy? And then Shane McMahon was just
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a superhero with me. I was like, 'hey you can't kill
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him, you can't stop him. So from that match on I was like
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nah this this is the realest thing ever to Hurricane.
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Yeah, it was just once I've seen Shane McMahon and Kane Feud and
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I was a kid, I was like Hook from that.
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And then, the hurricane I legitimately thought was real as
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a superhero. That's a whole different story,
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but I thought he was real. I love that.
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I love that. I, it's so fun asking that
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question. I think a lot of podcasts just
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ask it to ask it, are they hear it from me and ask it, but throw
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a little shade here today but it's fun to hear what generation
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someone came from. Our would like I don't think
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there's many people who would say, Shane McMahon was their
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First introduction to professional wrestling.
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Like that's crazy to think about even going to hate, but they
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Coast to Coast was something different for me as a kid.
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I was like oh he can whatever that was, it was just something
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like the most devastating move ever to me and that's how I
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knew. Like, when I used to jump up and
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grab my chair, I should do that. Move, put the chair up on my
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little cousin, or like, put the pillow goes, the coals.
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I just fly across the chair. So you were a high flyer from
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the beginning. Yeah I thought I was Jeff Hardy.
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It wasn't even like a thousand, be a wrestler and just any time
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I was wrestling or playing the games, I was the smallest
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growing up. So I always pick to Dairy, Rey
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Mysterio, and just like Jerry's. Why usually gave rats.
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Yes, just a bus on Kik was always one of my finishers.
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The poison Mist was like a huge one and look, we do it.
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But you know that's gonna take a lot of convincing after 2020.
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It's very true to, it can come back and come back, but the
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poison is one, my favorites, I love it.
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So fun fact, I'm a huge Masha, Mark, right?
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Love me some Masha. Masha, did employees at the
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first time I ever really seen. Masha wrestle was, can't believe
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frog and she poisoned Miss during that match and I was
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like, I'm sold. This is my favorite of all time.
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I just I if someone poisoned mr. I'm all about it.
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I love the Mist. I think it's so underrated, it
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is so underrated. I think, you know, if you use it
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wisely and like if you really, how people use a low blow, if
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you poison Mist, that will freak me out cause it's like where'd
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you get that from? Yes.
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It's and it's one of those things to it's like if you know
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you know but if you don't know in, someone's watching for the
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first time they're like they're Blown Away by it.
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Exactly. Yeah, so good.
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So much fun. Yeah, so I'm going back to Kane
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to, man. I remember his his debut, like I
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remember watching that pay-per-view live.
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I would say I grew up as Sean, Mark as you could tell what?
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All my Sean stuff. But yeah, a huge jean-guy.
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Someone shot went Kane made his debut as like, what the hell is
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this like? Yeah, it's fun.
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That's fucking dope. Yeah.
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So you said the video games were big thing and then just watching
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it through there. When did you start finding out
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life? Outside of we did you ever touch
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like growing up? I'm not sure where you grew up
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it. But did you find the independent
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scene or was that something that came later?
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So I didn't know about the independence, really?
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I grew up honestly, I did martial arts and then I didn't
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know I could dance. You know, Michael Jackson game
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that came out. I was like, huge ordered it and
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then I did like that when I was 11.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to find out there was a
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recruiter but dance team, so I end up becoming a like a ballet
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dancer break, dancer had to do. All styles of this is like dance
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school and then, wow, that's how I kind of got the Jody.
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Yeah, how much, how much of learning the dance in the ballet
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and stuff? Learned how to do body control
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for wrestling? I danced with half my life.
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So even when I was like not on the dance team, I still was
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doing background dancing for music videos or Street dancing.
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Flexible. So at the end the day is like I
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can get up right now and do something, but I'm not, but
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that's not is its study capoeira.
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Those things just kept me mobile before, like, but I wasn't like,
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I didn't know about independence.
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I just knew about wbe TNA. I learned about the,
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Independence, honestly, as I got involved in it.
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I mean, I've seen things like when I was people going to
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Haiti, but when I get back yard, of course I watched people.
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And I was like the independence. Backyard is a bad thing to
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claim. I everyone has to start
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somewhere. You don't?
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I mean and, and wrestling school can be expensive.
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They're in the backyard, is your first introduction.
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Then there's nothing wrong with that.
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And that's what it was. Everything was expensive and
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far. I live in Philadelphia and not
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many schools that aren't cancer. Open.
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You feel me? So I couldn't really do nothing
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about it. You would have been if that
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school didn't go through what its thing, you would have been a
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tailor-made fit for that place. So once I started, you know, I
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met my backyard friends, I didn't have any friends to make
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them and then over time, it was just like we got involved into
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the school because we met people who had seen us was like, hey,
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you should actually do the training, we see that you want
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to do this. Right.
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Take these meds to take them home, cut these ropes, come to
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the school. We wouldn't want you to do this
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the right way, and that's what we decided to do.
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Who was the one to give you? That advice, Matt Tremont.
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So, Tremont and backyard and told you come through the yard
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and he told her to come to the school.
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And once we did that, now look at us, I started with, don't get
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so curious, how did How did Tremont find out about you guys?
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Just social media. You do.
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That is awesome. Dude, I already love.
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Matt Tremont, that makes me love him more.
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That he's actively looking like like he sees something in all of
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you guys, which is sick. Like, I remember like going to
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age 20, and obviously it's I was always told to me is just the
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death match play. It's and then I went and seen
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you wrestle and a bunch of other people I'm like, oh, he's doing
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more than just the death by like, he's, he's Being all forms
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of professional wrestling come out of this school.
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I absolutely H2O. I will tell you this right now.
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The summertime is hell. That is the hottest building
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I've ever been in my entire life.
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When you do commentary over, you have to go up a ladder and your
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and it's hotter even up there. I was, I was almost died in that
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building. But it's always gonna be a
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special place in my heart because it was the first place
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that we got to take care of LeapFrog from Camp to a venue.
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So, I all that's a Special place in my heart and treatment was so
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welcoming to everybody who came in that day and then it was the
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place. I got to see I WT be 100 and
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that that show will always go down to me as my my favorite
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independent wrestling show of all time.
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Because so much of the independent scene was then that
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torch was passed for the people who were on TV, like this next
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generation of people and it was just it was a very magical show
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and H2, well, was it the home of that?
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And I love it so much. I just love that venue.
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I love Tremont. I love his attitude and how he
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goes about. Out everything.
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It just, it's a it's a great place.
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No, it definitely is. That's my home man.
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So what was it like, going to a place like H2O?
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Obviously, they are, they do the deathmatch and the crazy shit.
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But also, like, how did, how did that fit?
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How did your style fit into that?
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And how did they cater to your style to help?
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Bring the best out of you. So first, go in here, like I
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wasn't really big. Oh, and deathmatches angle a so
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like I couldn't even watch him. It scares the shit out of me.
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Yeah. It was like, whoa, this is a lot
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to take in, but over time, you get used to it.
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And like I kind of get excited they're seeing the toys and put
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them together in a Contraption like I'm still not huge or doing
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it but like for my second I like company son any time anything
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anytime soon I mean I did. But like this weekend we have
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the Like me vegan doesn't Liam sign
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our name down to become a professional wrestler like to
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start training. So yeah, we go out and it's a
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full metal air strike and if you don't know that, is that my
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match, that's That's my specialty.
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So whatever. I kind of want to do that day,
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it's all fair game. So I'm going to bring a door in
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with a couple of strikes on him like Hey today's and tables
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match. Yeah.
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So it depends. I might hang some ropes up and
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they'll just keep an eye out for that TV.
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Yeah I'll definitely watch it. I might every TV subscription is
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off right now just because times are tough for your boy but I
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cannot wait to get it back. So I had to get ketchup.
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I have to catch up on so much. I feel like I've been letting
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this Seen down because I haven't been watching her.
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I lost a lot of bookings because I can't keep my shit.
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My Yap, shut, and I don't want to work with weird people, so I
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lost a lot of opportunities but, you know, you stand for your
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morals. We're kind of the same boat, I
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mean, but it happens, you know? I mean, but when you're
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talented, I think you're the cream, right?
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The cream Rises to the top, you know, as I say A wise man, once
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said, who ate Slim Jims. But how did the name and the
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moniker and the character of who rocket is come about?
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What You pull from how did, how did that, how did the name come
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the nickname? So when I joined backyard,
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wrestling said what's your name? And you know, my shoot name is
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very weird so people couldn't stick and remember it or say it,
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right? So I'm talking to my best friend
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who I grew up with and I called one of my little brother and
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he's like, you know, I always seen you as a rocket.
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You going straight to the top, like not ricocheting it, he
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bounced all over place. Now, you're going to the talk
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your Or you should be like a rocket.
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So, from that point on my little brother called me rocket.
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When I was like 19, I was like back, I came back the next day
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to the backyard thing. My name is rocket.
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They're like, all right, back. And then when I went to training
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for wrestling and when people, who would, I wish your name?
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I said rocket. They're like, okay, whatever.
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And then they see me and they're like, that is your name.
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You're keeping it. So, Wendy, got to debut and
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stuff. They're like you're not changing
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what else gets nothing to do. So I just stuck with it.
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Yeah, it's I was in the same boat when you came out first
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time I seen you was a full. First time, I seen you seen you,
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you were in a multi man match and I forgot everybody in that
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show because it was a brewery show and I was drinking alcohol.
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But you wrestled in a brewery show in Pottsville and then I
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went back and reread looked at the footage.
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I was like, holy crap. This kid was doing crazy Dives
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to just concrete for no reason. Just killing himself.
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It was sick. It was a great match and then
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Seen you at a gcw settlement series show because me and at
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age, 20, and you blew me away. Absolutely blew me away and I
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think you did a whole bunch of crazy shit, but the thing that
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got me was your frog. Splat you, you frog, Splash, but
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then you like, Vince Carter dunked, like act, like you dump
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in your leg and and like, listen, there's a mazing frog.
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Splashes in the world. There's you know, Montez Ford
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has an amazing one because he gets so high and yeah,
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Guerrero's is good ricochet. It is Prince Puma whatever you
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want to call them. That there's a lot of really
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good frog splashes but like I honestly think Montez has
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probably one of the best in the industry and yours yours Rivals
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him, which is insanely. I really do a thing.
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So I think I like the way you did the The Carter thing like
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and then like you Splash and then the way you control your
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body. After it, the flip yourself
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back, it's it's beautiful. It's the coolest frog Splash
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I've ever seen in my life and from that moment forward, I was
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like, yeah, this kid. Is going places like that and
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then the how you just said the rocket going to the Moon?
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I was like I agree with it. And and how you're saying the
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break dancing and stuff like your body control, like the only
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other people I've seen on this TV, that we watch all the time
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who has insane body control. Like you do is like the John
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Morrison's the ricochets. Like everyone, we just de menthe
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has Ford, where they can just, it seems like they define
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gravity where they change direction in midair or like when
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your body hits that seems like you take zero impact.
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Fact it's just it's super impressive.
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What you're able to do is crazy because I don't think they got
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right look like RVD. And that's to like, I study when
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it comes over frogs place like, yeah, you see.
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Looks like he gets shot in the stomach after he takes it.
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So, I feel like, I feel like I should Ricochet also would like
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I'm I don't weigh that much, you know, I'm a Lincoln fellows
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over. I'm a jump on you and bounce
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off. Like I should have that launched
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off or something just to get. Yeah, this show how impactful to
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jump was at least. Those double this mushing, you
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know, I think, I think it's, I think it adds more to it.
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Some people may hate him like it's extra don't make sense, but
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I think it adds that little that little that little comic effect,
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you know, like I told like the extra.
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Yeah, no, I totally agree. I liked how you come off it and
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then like bounce off and like catch yourself with your arms in
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like, like I just Italy I think it makes it look better.
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And there's another thing about your style to that, I really
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enjoyed that I've seen over like would smash master and high
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tension. All the places is a lot of guys
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who are the High Flyers, sometimes they get caught up in.
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What's my next spot? What's the next thing I'm doing?
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That's going to wow, the crowd and do the flip thing.
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You know, I mean and there's a lot of people old school people
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who should own that style wrestling and I think it's
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stupid because there's a place for everything.
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But I think what makes you stand out?
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Even in that aspect too. Is you don't forget there's a
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crowd there like even though you're doing the crazy flip, you
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still have ring psychology, you still have we're telling a story
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here. I need to take a moment here to
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play to the crowd. I need to take because there's
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people who do a crazy thing and then just go right back into the
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match and and don't let that moment of let the crowd soak in
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what they just seem like you do a crazy spa and you let it
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breathe for a second. You don't.
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I mean like I'm not not like the Young Bucks for their hit, a
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Canadian story in 266 Super Kicks, and it just one after
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another one after another one. After another, you give it time
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to breathe and I and you space things out properly and you
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structure matches very well for even being a year in the game.
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And that's only going to get better with time and working
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with so many different styles. Is is you're going to learn more
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about that but being so new to it I think that's what's making
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you definitely stand out. Honestly, from day one, I was
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told. From preacher, speedball
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Janella, they all said the same thing.
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When it came to me doing a flip in a match or something or like,
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it's going to take you time, but taking that moment, it's going
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to take you time. But taking the moment I was told
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that if I was going, if I felt like I was going Too slow.
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I just slow down. You know, like those things
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resonated with me over time. So when it comes to it, I also
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tried to not force myself to fit wrestling because growing up, I
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was not a D1 wrestler in high school or nothing like that.
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I was a dancer. So the way someone will call the
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match, I would count on Match. The way someone would remember
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their spots. I remember it as dance steps.
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So I had to put myself in a different boat here and be like
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no, I have to Formulate it. So I got to stand a better.
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So when it comes to entertain the crowd, I have understanding
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that from a dancers perspective of, I'm not speaking to y'all,
21:36
but my body language has to be big for you all to see what I'm
21:38
doing. Because I honestly, no one's
21:41
meaner than the Dance World. You'll be seven years old, get a
21:44
score sheet, you will win everything and they'll say,
21:46
yeah, you're terrible. And you're like, what happened?
21:49
I just swear. I want to know.
21:51
They're brutal. So that kind of puts you in a
21:55
stage presence that you want to be in.
21:57
Like, I catch myself ignoring my colleagues.
22:00
Next day, John accident because I'm trying to Focus or I'm in my
22:05
stage presence mentality of, okay?
22:07
The lights are on. The music is playing.
22:10
I'm about to go out there and do my thing and then when I come
22:13
back I'm back to normal like nothing happened.
22:16
So it really comes from the dancer side of this thinking.
22:22
And honestly, just on advice I received, I've really taken in a
22:25
lot of people blow off. A lot of advice.
22:28
I will ask you to repeat yourself some time.
22:30
So I make sure I got it down because like, please tell me
22:32
these things because If you are somewhere, I want to be, you
22:36
were somewhere, I want to be. So one day I want to be able to
22:40
be in this position, you'll be able to do like walk down
22:43
impact. Welcome, aw, welcome.
22:45
We, those are just the things I want to do.
22:48
So I want to be able to impress your own different ways and show
22:50
you all that. I'm not just some flippy guy.
22:52
I get those man, I get this all the time, just for the guy, but
22:55
I want to show you all that. I can tell a story I can work.
22:59
There's times that sometimes I cycle out.
23:01
I won't flip into the end of match.
23:02
Sometimes I actually How many flips, I do five, I'll tell you,
23:06
I'll do two today on purpose and purposely do to and work the
23:09
whole match wrestling and still impress you.
23:12
Yeah, well, there was something recently announced besides this
23:17
high-tension match coming up for the high-tension title.
23:20
There's a match coming up in this beautiful place, I like to
23:23
call the sanctuary and you are working someone who is scary in
23:29
this industry and someone who I think is a an amazing An
23:33
opponent for you because I like their goal is to incapacitate
23:37
you and not let you be the hit flip guy.
23:40
Will there be ropes? Who knows?
23:42
We don't know. I think this matchup coming up.
23:46
I think if people want to see another side of you, I think
23:48
this is a great opportunity to do so because I think this is an
23:51
opportunity for you to Showcase something.
23:53
That maybe you have a Showcase with other people, he will be on
23:55
this Thursday. So I'll ask him some questions
23:58
as well, but it's a match that I've wanted since both of youse
24:03
entered the sanctuary. Very and that's you and Prince
24:04
Ahmed. Yeah, that's going to be
24:08
absolutely crazy where how you said there.
24:11
You almost you came off with the like the John Jones mentality.
24:15
I don't know. If you follow - Jon Jones will
24:18
say, how can this guy like he'll tell the media?
24:21
How do you think this guy can beat me, what's his best option
24:24
to beat me and people do? He has knockout power.
24:26
So Jon Jones will stand in the pocket and fight.
24:29
A guy for five rounds at his strength.
24:32
Just to prove he can beat him. And like how you just said, like
24:35
I'm more than a flip guy, like I can take on different styles, I
24:38
can take on different opportunities.
24:40
I can take, I'll purposely take away something that makes me
24:43
special to prove that I can do something else, and being like
24:47
how you said you're coming up on a year, in it, man, that's
24:49
that's, that's a good mindset to have.
24:52
Keep in mind for a prince. I met.
24:55
I want him to keep in mind something at age. 20, I walk to
24:58
Matt Tremont and told him to his face one day.
25:02
I'm not a bitch. He laughed.
25:03
It was like, what do you mean, where I get what's going on?
25:05
I say, you know what? I see which I'll do here,
25:09
hardcore, deathmatch, all those banners.
25:12
I want every one of those motherfuckers to respect me.
25:15
So I asked those are you know what?
25:18
Any time any place? I'll do it here so that shows
25:25
how willing I am to prove that point, I said that John Jones
25:28
mentality. So when it comes to him wanting
25:31
to adjust, subdue me, but I know you ain't got no rope.
25:34
So good as much a match, I can wrestle my tag team partner is a
25:38
submission machine. You know, they could kick my
25:39
ass. Trust me I'm prepared for this.
25:44
I study my opponents. I don't I'm not wanting people
25:47
just like books or this. I will sit there and actually
25:49
pull up your clips. And watch you and sit there and
25:51
be like, okay, I will text you, you ain't gotta like me, you can
25:55
love me. I will sit there like, hey,
25:57
let's do this. If not.
25:59
We'll get in there and do we gotta do it simple as that.
26:02
It's depends how you want to take it, but Fritz of it.
26:05
I promise you, I'm gonna give you the fight of your life.
26:09
I already see what you could do with the leg German man.
26:12
I'm prepared. It's it's so many things I was
26:15
already just like looking and it's like a man.
26:17
I want to grab his foot. Do this for them around, pick
26:19
him up. Initials like, people go be like
26:22
all that action is just so you can hit them like up and down
26:24
the superkick them and still slap my thigh that.
26:27
What's up? Yeah, it's honestly like what
26:31
you just said about studying tape and texting your opponent
26:34
and working things out is so special and that's that's where
26:38
I feel like this next generation of talent is that's where you're
26:42
going to shine. Because a lot of people I mean
26:45
let's be let's pull the curtain back a little bit, they have a
26:47
match their veterans, they've been doing it for a couple years
26:50
and then they Show up and they said, I just called the ring kid
26:52
and those matches are fine and they're very talented.
26:55
And a lot of those matches go off pretty well.
26:57
But when you when you look at some of the younger guys in the
27:00
scene and you're think to yourself like what makes them
27:02
stand out. Why was that match so good?
27:04
Because you guys take it to a different level and use modern
27:08
technology to your advantage of tape study and following people
27:12
and checking what they do and like messaging them and like
27:16
that, that so it excites me so much more to see this match
27:19
finally happened. I didn't know that it was in the
27:21
works and I remember I just kind of like message somebody
27:24
privately and I was like hey you know there's two people here
27:27
that should probably square up sometime and then the his
27:30
response was I'm already had a yeah.
27:35
So yeah, I'm very excited for that matchup.
27:38
I think that's going to be that's going to be art, man.
27:40
It's going to be a great, great thing.
27:41
And I think it's going to be something that footage.
27:43
I think you can send out to people and be like, oh, here's
27:46
here's Rock. And in a submission technical
27:48
match, you don't, I mean like it's gonna be fun.
27:50
Done. Definitely, it would be if they
27:54
really, if they want to make it a submission match 100% down, I
27:58
will show you all that I could work.
28:01
I will show you. I will give you a submission
28:03
match. There's no roads down, so
28:05
possibly, I don't mind it either way.
28:07
I'll throw away my money, tiger, I'll take it back.
28:11
If I got to be kind of dope. If you walked out more tiger,
28:15
that'd be kinda sick and change your guys, I want to show here
28:19
for a fight. Let him know.
28:23
I'd be sick sick sick. So what has your experience been
28:26
like coming to the sanctuary seeing seeing you know
28:30
everything online and and and and being like well what what
28:34
what like what was your driving force to go?
28:36
Check that place out and when and how has your experience been
28:39
since being there, you be honest.
28:44
People just post this the cinematography, I'll be seen
28:47
Clips but what really convinced me was Hawthorne's Insurance.
28:51
The The camera. It was it was a crazy thing ever
28:54
and I was like no I got to get up there so I instantly hit them
28:57
up, hit up, Hawthorne High star, ask people like who do I gotta
29:00
go to about this. Once I got the main information
29:03
and I was like all right I'm going and I experienced a, I was
29:07
like that was crazy. I started telling all my
29:09
wrestling buddies until June the Underwood Dudley that's hot dogs
29:14
boys. End up there.
29:15
I was like, No, we're going to love it, I told to leave in them
29:18
so I just was like, everyone has the experience.
29:21
This Safe Haven of Waco, just work hard, and have fun that
29:27
it's safe. That everything was padded, so
29:29
it just, it felt like somewhere. You can really practice your
29:33
things and work on your moves. I'll wait and listen here.
29:42
Rocket might have Blast Off. Hold on.
29:44
Give me a second here. Yeah, well while he's away for a
29:49
second. The sanctuary is a bit.
29:50
Amazing the safety. Oh hold on here, thanks for your
29:53
amazing. The safety of all, I hear him.
29:55
There we go. Okay.
30:14
Set there. But yeah, Sanctuary is insanely
30:16
safe and it is about your safety and making sure you can go in
30:20
there and train and do things and try new things out.
30:24
But it also, you know, if you take it seriously and you think
30:28
of a storyline or you come on our first Friday, are you prove
30:30
yourself? It can be a very useful place to
30:32
get some good footage as well as a really fun experience.
30:36
And I think, I think the team that we have in place at the
30:38
sanctuary is unlike it's ever been before.
30:42
First, you know, the past season nine, guys, in this new season
30:46
and just the people who are involved in it.
30:47
Now, I just think it's, it's better now than it's ever been
30:50
and I'm and more people, I think are seeing that and coming
30:52
through and experiencing it, and I think it's insanely special to
30:57
have to be a part of the sanctuary now.
30:59
And the doors are open for everybody man.
31:00
Keep an eye on First Friday shows.
31:01
You can come through on a first Friday and I like to think of
31:05
First Friday shows as like, open mic night for professional
31:08
wrestling, you can kind of just come through and be like, can I
31:10
get this match and then, but I guess you guys, And put
31:13
something together, go for it and it's a lot of fun.
31:15
And you can just kind of roll through on a Friday night, and
31:18
get some cool working and get an amazing entrance.
31:22
Can you hear me? Yep, bug are you all right?
31:29
We're good. Yeah, okay, perfect.
31:31
Alright. So what we were saying about
31:33
being safe and will working there and bringing your friends?
31:36
Yeah. Just honestly, it just was like
31:38
a safe haven to like, practice your stuff I've seen practice
31:42
and Dives there. And I was like, that's actually
31:44
cool. And no one really does that and
31:46
lots of places. They don't really be like, hey,
31:48
let's practice a dive and really will catch you in a suicide real
31:50
quick. So it was like, pretty cool to
31:52
see how big was safety to really work.
31:54
So, as a high-flyer, just made me a little more comfortable to
31:57
be like, okay, I could try Prides of my stuff here and see
32:01
that. If I'm more comfortable, then I
32:02
pull it out with other places. Yeah.
32:06
Also too. It was really cool to see is
32:08
like a lot of the guys that were there early because you got
32:10
there pretty early, which I thought was a cool thing too,
32:12
because a lot of people kind of show up, like they, most people
32:15
show up, like, very close to their match time or over call
32:18
time, but you came very early. And I think, a lot of the young
32:21
guys who are aware, who you are, that our new trainees of
32:25
sanctuary were like, hey, they were picking your brain.
32:29
Little bit. They're like yo can you teach us
32:30
how you do some of your high flying things and they pulled
32:32
the mats out and you were very gracious with your time to be
32:35
like this is things. I do are things that you can try
32:37
out or you're working with Zach sander and all five of a bunch
32:40
of other people who are hungry who want to get better.
32:42
And I thought, I just think it's a beautiful place that people
32:45
come together and help each other and that's kind of where
32:48
my next question leads into you is, you know, you're obviously
32:51
H2O is your home and it's an amazing place to be, but like,
32:55
how do you navigate looking at? Like, hey, if I go to this goal
32:58
for a We'll just to just to get a couple sessions in Ric like I
33:03
had to use a MMA reference again, but like this fighter has
33:06
something I like he has a good right hook or he has a good
33:08
kick. How do you navigate?
33:10
Like I'm gonna go to the school just for a couple do a couple
33:12
training session so I can work with this guy.
33:14
Like are you about that? Have you done?
33:15
That. Is there any schools on your
33:17
list that you would like to go and maybe pick the brain of some
33:20
people? Because they may have something
33:22
that you couldn't get not, not get somewhere else, but you
33:25
specialize in because you've done the tape study to learn
33:27
about them. I definitely get what you mean.
33:31
There's definitely tons of schools.
33:32
I would definitely like to go by like nightmare factory and stuff
33:35
like that monster Factory Tow and more so to be able to To get
33:42
a foot in the door to be able to work.
33:44
Shows to also to be able to Showcase my talent there to show
33:47
them that I could be able to do things there too.
33:50
So yeah, it's honestly to expand my radius of shows and places to
33:54
work at Sochi people can see like I said that I can actually
33:58
go. I This year I've really been
34:02
traveling more and going home or so, I've been trying to do that.
34:04
So it II will see usually clips of people training and stuff and
34:08
then I'll hit him up like an accent.
34:11
Like is it just a school or do you showcase Talent by having
34:14
shows and stuff? And I asked about booking
34:15
opportunities and then, if it's a pack roster, I'll still see
34:18
about. Okay?
34:19
What are ways I can help, what days?
34:21
They are run. Okay, let's see if I can get a
34:23
car load and see what go up or even if I do manage to get
34:28
opportunity for school, I still ask like, hey I Like for people,
34:31
I'm going to possibly bring with me and I'll hit like a couple
34:34
students a mage 12 by hey, what are you doing?
34:36
Is date. You should go up there, or even
34:38
if I can't make it as I can, I think you should definitely go
34:40
up there. You probably like it.
34:41
You told me that you told me about this work you want to
34:44
face? Well, he graduated from here.
34:46
So there you go. At least.
34:48
Yeah, that that is I think is so important as well as just
34:52
sometimes. Just get in the car and going to
34:54
show and if you're even if you're not scheduled to work.
34:57
Yeah, you know, I to this day I still I mean I'm not as much
35:00
now. Because I have a car but like I
35:01
like to go to shows that I'm not even being used.
35:04
And sometimes, you know, if you, if you carry some weight and
35:07
people respect what you're doing or they like what you're about,
35:10
there's sometimes you may show up and if your gears in the car
35:13
you might get an opportunity to work that show like, hey we have
35:15
a Scrambler are we didn't have a Scrambler but if you sick show
35:18
up, will throw one on and see what you guys can do.
35:20
That happens all the time. There's been times where I
35:23
showed up in like you would do a commentary or you want to, you
35:25
want to do a backstage thing and I'm like, yeah, let's figure it
35:28
out. So that's that think that's
35:30
super important. point for younger talent to here is just
35:32
like get a car full, go to a show and even if you're not
35:35
used, just support just showing up that and supporting a show,
35:39
we'll probably get you a book in the next time they throw on Yeah
35:44
it's definitely good to show up and definitely help out.
35:47
Yeah so who are some people on the scene that you haven't that
35:51
you've worked that if if you were saying to seek out a match
35:54
if you working somebody who would be some of the matches for
35:57
The Listener to seek out and and consume those those matches?
36:02
Like what worked already? They like people should
36:04
definitely look out for ya. Hmm, definitely, definitely
36:09
Andre Popolino. Definitely him.
36:13
He's definitely really good. I'm so many people who I haven't
36:18
faced. I'm like, already look out for
36:20
because I'm trying to get matched with them.
36:23
That's coming up. Next up next I would have to say
36:27
like my homeboys would sure. Like I face them so many times
36:30
like Duncan to leave like he's the funniest person I know.
36:33
And on the microphone, there's not a lot of workers young
36:36
talent that will grab a microphone, or want to talk for
36:40
half an hour straight and he will talk to Point where we were
36:43
like, take it home, go ahead, man, get it, but it Dale, like
36:47
it sees, what a great as I've work.
36:50
Brian Nails. Cecilia Vega like, people are
36:53
underrated JB Anderson even though I haven't gotten like
36:59
four matches with certain people like better way.
37:01
I was stuff. Some people have definitely like
37:03
kept me safe. I feel like, or like I felt
37:06
comfortable around. So want to work more.
37:10
They were Robison. I know, I was just Aah, do
37:12
people questions like these are people who are just like, young
37:17
and hungry that people were like looking over and not looking at.
37:21
So, I want people to look at these people.
37:23
Ryan, Redfield faggots. They're there.
37:26
Right? Right.
37:27
Field. Like these people are definitely
37:28
slept on the I definitely would say a lot of people that you
37:33
will see Shiny get a decent down, but they got enough of it.
37:37
I'm sorry, chairman, and we bout to come see y'all soon.
37:42
You know what? I love as well, that H2O has
37:45
done in the past and they've done it places, like Psycho
37:48
Circus, and a lot of other places where H2O will say, hey,
37:51
let's do a collaboration show like, let's do H2O versus this
37:55
school, where you bring your best guys, we bring our best
37:57
guys, and we do like a forbidden door Indy style and I mean, it's
38:00
kind of It's kind of weird to say that because like guys do
38:02
travel and go place to place but it is it is a different vibe
38:06
like it's been done at the sanctuary to where you had like
38:09
the Johnny Rodz Walker Clan guys come in and take on the
38:11
sanctuary guys. Like if you roll up, what your
38:13
age 20 guys it's like H2 over. Sanctuary like on commentary
38:17
that you put over. Like H2O is another place that
38:19
you can train, if you're in the Jersey area.
38:21
Like I just think those shows are a lot of fun and there are
38:24
great ways to get talent to cross pollinate and and learn
38:27
from each other because that 15 20 30 minutes That you have
38:31
backstage, putting your match together.
38:33
You learn from those things. And that that's what makes you
38:36
who you are as a wrestler. Well as your career progresses
38:39
is taking those hours to put together a match and then go and
38:42
doing the match and then talking about the match after and then
38:45
collaborating with the locker room and be like yo what did you
38:47
see? What do you think?
38:48
And like those are magical special moments in the more that
38:51
you can do that and get people together and and work?
38:55
That kind of stuff is really good.
38:57
Yeah, I agree. American American runs and
39:00
Duncan did killed this weekend. Duncan was very, very
39:03
entertaining. He definitely pop the crowd.
39:05
A bunch just by talking in the ring.
39:07
Yep. Then that I'm telling you look
39:10
out for him people. These are people who I won't
39:13
open the door for like Jenkins versus Shawn crab.
39:16
I just said it, let's make that happen, but I'll be great.
39:23
Like Jay Busey, I worked on the settlement series and then like
39:26
after that was probably the first encounter I had with him.
39:29
I've seen him in a couple bookings and then 4.0, he became
39:32
one of my closest friends like looked out for me so it's like
39:36
these are people that like I wish the best for in the
39:39
business. It's like I want to walk in a
39:41
performance center. You know, that little picture,
39:42
they take one like, look over black.
39:45
Wait all y'all here like I would be see what I do moments like
39:49
that would just make my day. Yeah.
39:51
Who are some people on the scene that you haven't worked that you
39:55
want to Now you can go on. Billy Starks, Nick Wayne.
40:06
But that's not be impossible to eat.
40:07
They saved a baby up out of here in a second.
40:10
I don't think it's impossible man.
40:14
Larry Lazard Teriyaki are Nikolai why I haven't got him
40:22
yet. Even those people.
40:25
They're like I'm really quarter with a really cool way.
40:28
It shows it's like I haven't gotten a chance to even face
40:30
them, I want to read management was feeble, man.
40:36
Really Ella. That was really fun.
40:38
I'm another one. Like I want to be able to show
40:41
him some improvement. You know.
40:44
I go through the list of Getting By, all right.
40:46
Like, be able to go back to Janella.
40:48
Be able to go back to the mercy. I'm like, all right, I got you
40:51
now like the because you're talking about you where you work
40:56
those guys and you're in year. One that's that's impressive
40:59
man. Sad.
41:03
Like I'm tried. Yeah.
41:05
That I mean like in your first year of your career you've
41:08
worked guys who are would be considered top, end Salon, Indie
41:12
guys, and like some of those names are guys who have tasted
41:16
impact to have tasted. Aw have been there and have seen
41:19
that side of the of the spectrum, and you've got to work
41:22
them your first year of your career.
41:24
That's, that's good, that's awesome.
41:26
That's real like yeah. That's if for days is your year
41:30
anniversary, SRI of signing paperwork to age 20 and that's
41:34
already your list of talent. You've worked, bro.
41:37
Your twos going to be crazy. I'm trying like it.
41:43
It did it. Did come out of nowhere with it.
41:45
Like, I had to be patient. Like, everyone tells you you
41:49
don't really do deserve wrestling wrestling deserves,
41:53
you know, you so it's one of those things where I had to
41:55
understand what that meant and take my time.
41:56
So I'm grateful for every day goddess, Lee, honestly, I went
42:00
just E, like, even with stuff coming up, you don't know about
42:06
that. Like backup.
42:07
Tell you, man, I it's stuff that that is coming up there.
42:10
I'm just excited to even be a part of because of what Russell
42:13
has done for me and I've never would have expected this and
42:17
beverages it, it's never would expect.
42:19
I'll get to meet so many much of these people in the business
42:22
that get to work with. We're just collab with.
42:24
So many people differently just like you or any other people
42:26
have me in the interviewers space or just in a work
42:30
industry. So this is the one I'm this is
42:33
the one I'm clipping here. This is the match Booker needs
42:37
to make this happen. This needs to be a match.
42:39
He's on the scene right now. He's someone, I respect very
42:41
greatly and I think I've for me this is a dream match
42:45
high-flyers. High flyer you versus linsay
42:49
Dorado. Food a be tough.
42:54
I need that that beats. Yeah, you have your stable,
42:57
there's another stable out there called The Miracle, the miracle
42:59
generation. That would be it.
43:01
There's a lot of really talented guys.
43:02
There Ichiban is out there, like there's some, I'm a huge.
43:07
I'm a huge Boomer Hadfield fan. He's a little flyer.
43:09
I likes to fly around but also tells really good stories that
43:12
would be amazing as well. Oh Tina said, I would love to
43:15
see more promos from rocket. People want to see those.
43:17
Those those toes toes before match trash.
43:21
Talking promos. Let's get that going.
43:23
So, those those honestly, I'll be honestly a little agitated in
43:29
those moments. I'm not gonna lie, like, Those
43:32
promos, I actually have to sit there and think about what's
43:36
going on cuz I get actually really pressed and black.
43:38
You know what mad? Now I got to talk about this
43:40
because sometimes will be like I gotta I gotta say something
43:44
because like a lot of people. Yes, I sit quietly.
43:46
But I purposely do that because I like I like the actions speak
43:51
louder than words. I know eventually I have to
43:53
speak but I feel like the time will come when I really have to
43:56
speak and break it down to size. So if it comes to it and it
44:00
black, all right, now I got you on camera, but Nah, I think I
44:05
enjoy what? I get into Dale.
44:07
The promos I I think about him. I definitely try to get him out
44:11
like I tried to it just it really depends.
44:15
I guess I usually be agitated. So if I'm not really upset it or
44:17
not I'm just like hey guys got a match coming up here?
44:21
You know? Yeah like know someone take me
44:23
out from like I made now. I gotta drop you because we not
44:27
doing this. Yeah here's a guy he's from the
44:30
KCC me. So I'd love to see you in his
44:32
case, he's seen and take on it. Kenny Alfonso.
44:35
Hope I said it. Oh yes.
44:38
Oh yes, there's a couple. People actually is.
44:42
So there's another person, Joe Lando.
44:45
Yo, you casein insane. I want to work him so bad.
44:51
He made it to a mirror or cuff, but gcw for like weekend and I
44:57
think I H2O that weekend. I was like dag, we got injured
45:01
or something. I'm trying to remember what it
45:03
was like. Like we were trying to hang and
45:05
I was like, wow, I really want to work him so bad.
45:07
Yeah. So we're getting close to that
45:10
time where the 45-minute Mark so we are getting close to the end
45:12
here. So if anyone in the chat thank
45:13
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45:33
question. Time.
45:34
Get them out and we'll have some fun here.
45:36
Tina says I'd love to see a him with TJ.
45:39
Epochs are tray Felipe. Dude, I'd be a good one
45:41
teaching. A hybrid of way.
45:43
Definitely need a be dope. That would definitely be do
45:48
Yeah, I that that'd be really cool.
45:52
Here we go. Precious Ruby Reno in the chat.
45:54
What conditioning and training does bracha, do to stay ready to
45:58
launch? Honestly, you do.
46:01
Yes. Yes.
46:02
Go to trading. If not go to gym, I'm a cardio
46:04
junkie. So what like when I run on a
46:07
treadmill I do it, as if I'm calling a match.
46:10
So I'll go on the treadmill and say, all right, four minutes,
46:13
it'll be like, all right, I'm expecting six minutes and then
46:16
once I get to the 6-minute Mark, I'm like let me know.
46:18
Statement and match and I will stay on and like be trying to
46:21
call him after them there and make sure, you know, I'm
46:24
probably on there, like, alright, 35-minute Banker, let's
46:27
get it. Didn't want them all from like I
46:28
just wait 45 minutes no ropes and I've like I'm good.
46:32
It didn't have like, let's let's go ahead but I'm honestly mostly
46:37
cardio and I'll go lie. How much French style is calling
46:42
a match beforehand or doing calling stuff on the fly in the
46:45
ring. Um, honestly my movies I feel
46:50
like I could comfortably call them in the rain.
46:52
Like, even as slippery as they are, I can definitely.
46:55
I feel comfortable enough to be able to position you and tell
46:57
you where to stay. So I can do the flip and you
47:00
just be there. Did they catch me?
47:01
Or stay there? So it really depends like how
47:05
big the move is about. I want you to like, catch me
47:08
standing or so, I would say before it makes like, hey, man,
47:11
how do you feel about this, you know, but for the most part,
47:15
yeah, I'll You're good. Easy route through.
47:18
I know some people hate. Remembering a crap ton of thing.
47:20
So I want you guys together and I'm like there's no way I would
47:23
be able to do that. I call it during a match to.
47:27
Like I don't I don't just expect actually like, I remember that
47:29
good more out there. I will talk to you the whole
47:33
time. I will not abandon you.
47:35
I will make sure you know what is coming next?
47:38
Like, if I can't get you the ref will tell you something.
47:40
I'm not I can't I can't abandon you there because I'm not Not
47:46
selfish. I don't want to, I don't want to
47:48
get all my stuff and I want to make sure that you look good in
47:51
action. We both just in her deer in
47:53
headlights then no one looks good in that situation.
47:56
Yeah there was a match recently with the actually you and
47:59
Hawthorne where I don't know how much it was on the fly or how
48:02
much of it was just improved on the moment.
48:04
But you went to do a rope spot and you slipped, I don't know if
48:07
it was a slip or if it was part of the like you had a misstep
48:10
and he used it to that end the match.
48:12
And I don't know how much of that was improved or how much
48:14
that was part of it but I thought it was Done so well
48:17
because it looked like you had it like the way we sold it on
48:19
commentary was you were about to hit him with this big move and
48:22
that could have been in it and then he turned it into his
48:24
finisher and landed it, but the way you slipped on the Rope,
48:27
just a hair, it made it, like, it was just great storytelling
48:30
and it was a, it was a moment for us on commentary to grab a
48:33
hold of it to be like, oh Rocket almost had him.
48:36
He could have, he could have came in here and beat two top
48:37
contenders of the sanctuary, but that one little slip cost him
48:40
like, like moments like that. Where it might have been a
48:43
mistake. Oh, we don't know because we
48:45
don't know how you guys put it together but I thought Thought
48:46
it was done very well. I called matches backwards so it
48:51
definitely was part of it. I've learned that calling them
48:55
backwards actually better because if it comes to it you
48:57
want to know the finish at the end of the day, if something
49:00
goes wrong, you want to know what to be able to get to, or
49:05
like something people call a lot of things.
49:07
It's like most important is to finish because that is what the
49:09
crowd is there for their care. Therefore, the climax of the max
49:13
even if it's unfinished and telling a story to lead on to
49:16
the Match, they're waiting for that.
49:19
So that's what I'm usually there for is, to make sure the
49:23
finishes is perfectly fine. So I will try to be like, ok, to
49:26
finish is a chokeslam. How are you going to give me the
49:30
chokeslam. I'm a high flyer going to catch
49:31
me in the air. Are you gonna throw me around a
49:35
little bit? You know, are you going to get
49:36
me from down here? I have to figure out what's
49:39
going to mess, me up as a high-flyer.
49:40
So you get me there, depending on what's your styles to, you
49:43
know, there's people that smaller than me and Powerhouses,
49:47
and then they'll be, they'll be Mass wise bigger than me, then
49:51
I'm 6 foot and I'm high flyer, so they'll be guys like that.
49:54
That work in those situations, it will be interesting to see
49:58
how can I still make him look strong.
50:01
As he is like, it's like me facing oldest.
50:03
He's like 53 and I'm, you know, I'm towering them but I know at
50:09
any day he could bench. Press me asleep.
50:11
Hmm. Is using your opponent's
50:13
strengths of their advantage to make them look just as good as
50:16
you want to. Yourself look good.
50:18
I feel like it's a you know people go in there and like
50:22
they'll just call their stuff that they want to get in.
50:24
I feel like it's important to take into consideration to call
50:27
bumps. You should take or volunteer
50:31
some things. Like if I'm working opponent and
50:34
his finishers, a pedigree I think would be cool to possibly.
50:38
But you know what, I think I could sell a good pedigree.
50:40
You know what you want to be proud of me today?
50:41
Is that like you're finished or, you know, like, I think it's
50:44
considerate to, to be able to know.
50:46
Your opponent or at least ask them like hey what are some of
50:49
your strong moves? Because I want to see what I can
50:52
make, look strong, if you're strong moving the superkick, I
50:55
want to make sure I make that look strong stuff selling it
50:58
like a normal one, you know. So I tried to get consideration
51:02
when I'm facing people like okay, what are some of your best
51:05
moves? Because you have to do, at least
51:07
two or three of them. Now, like we got to and I will
51:10
throw my body across the map just so you could get it out
51:13
your system. I wanted to look great.
51:15
I was spiked hair and therefore So, I want people to see that
51:19
wrestling isn't just about getting your moves.
51:21
I think it's, I think the people are watching your selling more
51:25
than watching your cool shit out of this lie, and you're coming
51:28
back to your roots, it's a 50-50 dance, you know, I mean that you
51:32
as much as your opponent. Yeah, good.
51:34
You can do the same rocket. I listen, this is a great.
51:39
I'm gonna say this is a great part one because I want part
51:41
two, I want to dive into more of you as a person and and deep
51:45
dive you more here and And if you're willing to come back, I
51:48
would love to have you back sometime in the future.
51:51
I gotta get you soon though because I don't think you're
51:52
gonna be around one is longer. And then I'm gonna have to go
51:54
through agents to get ahold of you soon.
51:57
I really believe that for you. I seriously do.
52:00
There's more I want to ask is why I want to talk about it.
52:01
Like what you do outside of wrestling your hobbies and
52:04
stuff. But we are at the 15-minute Mark
52:05
and I don't want to keep you too long, and you have some stuff
52:08
you got to get done, but I want to thank you for doing this.
52:11
It means a lot. I'm like, I said, I'm a fan of
52:14
what you're doing and just keep killing it.
52:15
I think your attitude The way you conduct yourself your mega
52:18
star, man and I'm telling people right now, they're listening to
52:21
podcast. I've been saying it on
52:22
commentary every single time I've been calling his match get
52:25
Rocket while you can. Because Rockets going to be
52:27
hard, it's gonna be a tough commodity the next to you a
52:29
couple years because he's going to be on your TV, he's gonna be
52:31
that oxidant action and ready on your AWS and stuff like that
52:34
like so enjoy him on the scene while you can as precious would
52:38
say you know take him for. Don't take them for granted
52:41
because time would rock it is very precious.
52:45
Yeah man. I I I hate you so much.
52:48
Links below to follow rocket on us on Instagram on Twitter.
52:52
Please, if you're, if you're watching this podcast, go follow
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him. Leave a comment on one of the
52:56
things, tell him what he thought of the podcast and keep, keep
53:00
keep following him. There also is a brain Buster's T
53:02
website, you can go grab some rocket merchandise, wear it now
53:06
telling you because pretty soon is going to be W on the bottom
53:08
of the shirt or you know what? Here's that one last question.
53:13
If you now I know the answer here.
53:16
Is the political actors who ever will have me, right?
53:19
You're not, there's not one over another, but if you look at both
53:21
of those companies and you think to yourself like who would I
53:24
want to work more? What company would it be?
53:27
The one you'd sign to at a WWE? Yeah.
53:32
Or even impact? Honestly, you would hate you
53:35
when a sauce that would be a fun one to watch.
53:37
I'm just saying, John troske, that's hot.
53:39
I like, of course, like like I feel like I don't know why
53:44
realistically, if it was more possible for Or aw words, he had
53:48
a because everybody has so many like different things that
53:52
happens every year where it just makes it harder and harder to
53:54
get there. But I do think that that enough
53:57
that you would be in NXT start like I do like I can see you in
54:01
on the E like I really do. I like I think people think and
54:04
I'm this is not a knock to aw but I think it seems more
54:07
realistic because they love the Indie scene a little more but I
54:10
honestly I think W sees a guy like you man and they drool I
54:14
don't lie do and and you and Ricky Is like my ultimate match
54:18
of all time. I got.
54:19
Are you and Montes forward with the two matches that I would
54:22
pay? I'd sell everything I own to see
54:24
those matches. Like I definitely like I feel
54:28
like them to be a because the biggest thing I want to do is
54:31
have a WrestleMania and since I don't have two main event, I
54:34
don't have to win, I don't have to, I could be pre-show, I don't
54:37
have to have a big marching band but the idea of walking down a
54:41
WrestleMania ramp, you know, how long it takes you to get down
54:44
that takes you about 10 minutes that we're coming.
54:46
Laughing my life. Heard your music hit.
54:49
See, you know, you ain't gonna lie.
54:52
I was so happy to see you there, but I was like, I hope I can
54:56
keep using it. Yeah, well get in contact with
55:00
him like Hey, are you cool with us?
55:01
That can you, can you cosign me here?
55:02
Can you, can you be giving me a favor?
55:06
We've been trying, we've been trying.
55:07
I've been tagging them and put in every time I you do an
55:09
entrance. I try to put it out there for
55:11
people to see and hopefully get Lil Uzi vert to see cuz and to
55:15
give you that, but he's a huge wrestling fan, you know that,
55:18
right? Yeah.
55:19
Man I'm trying to mute Susie fan so it's like good boys.
55:22
He might he might hang out a lot of this suplex vintage rustling
55:26
every now and then so I'm just saying.
55:28
I know. He do it probably.
55:29
I gotta get up there. Yeah anything in closing you
55:33
want to get out there. You want people to go check out.
55:35
See support. Definitely keep an eye out for
55:38
this Saturday H2O. Oh man.
55:42
I've got a headache already. It's the Deathmatch tournament.
55:45
Well it's not totally Moore's dead Deathmatch event for the
55:47
students the last Duration event, please check it out.
55:51
I double TV, will be streamed at 8:00 p.m.
55:54
That's a big event for, not only just the school, but like I said
55:58
for me, that is the anniversary of me signing become a
56:00
professional wrestler. So, like, I'm definitely going
56:04
to have to one up a lot of my my matches.
56:08
I'm like, 107 in. So I definitely got a one up, a
56:13
lot of those moments like I know a lot of people hate it, like,
56:16
oh, you're gonna be a viral clip and it's like, it's not that I
56:19
just yeah, yeah, what the right to see what the ripe fruit as on
56:23
the right. You can see as a.
56:24
So I'm gonna do it again. A guy went viral spinning a
56:27
pizza while wrestling and he made it he was already W TV for
56:29
a week you know I mean like so I was like I just want People to
56:33
see it. So once I get these
56:36
opportunities in places, a lot of people familiar with me so it
56:39
won't be that much of a hassle. You know I noticed that's all it
56:42
is for least the connection and social status.
56:44
So I'm trying to keep a good name and a good image.
56:48
Staying out the way honestly because there's a lot of
56:50
terrible people out there. So yeah, I'm just try my best to
56:54
just do it. I can do help people, you know,
56:56
B+ honestly. No, I think the way you conduct
57:00
yourself as beer is brilliant. I think you're doing everything
57:02
absolutely. We correct the way everything
57:05
you talk about it. The way you put matches the way
57:07
the other way, you helped talent.
57:08
And, and like I said, you've worked in your first year names
57:12
that people dream over are people who have been in this
57:14
business 20, some years who have never worked and, and you're
57:17
doing it your first year, but then go to a place like
57:19
sanctuary and work. A kid who's even less time in
57:21
than you are and give him a match.
57:23
If you if you would give the biggest guy in the scene and I
57:26
think just the way you conduct yourself in the way, you present
57:28
yourself in the way, you do things, man.
57:30
Like I said, I think it's only a matter of time.
57:33
Thank you man. It's not it's not if it's when
57:36
it's going to happen. Just stay positive steep.
57:38
Keep doing everything you're doing and it's going to happen
57:41
for you. I promise just you travel
57:43
outside your bubble, you put the work in, you put the grind in.
57:47
I would do more of these though. I know you said you don't do a
57:49
lot of podcasts. I'm thankful that I'm one of the
57:51
rare ones, you know, Beast that has had all this opportunity.
57:53
But get your name out there, man.
57:55
Just keep grinding and you're gonna blow this shit up.
58:00
Thank you man. Yeah, I'll definitely we lost
58:03
your camera but that's okay. I guess I'll hear you.
58:05
There you go. Now definitely like we do a part
58:08
2 which you for sure. Yeah, I never really either I
58:13
haven't really like Ben offer or Ed X honestly what people ask I
58:19
would definitely just like be at a show or something.
58:22
So it'll kind of like cross my mind and past me and I like I
58:26
hope a lot of people don't get discouraged or like upset about
58:29
that. I'm not Not being routed.
58:31
I'll be like, bro, I really like I'll be doing something and I
58:33
completely forget and I'll be like, oh my gosh, I'm sorry.
58:36
That's what I try to tell people this podcast base.
58:39
I think a lot of podcasters go to wrestling shows and they
58:42
bombard Talent with, hey I'm a podcaster are hey let's do this
58:46
or let's set something up and and there's a way to do that.
58:50
But also you have to realize like when you're at a show,
58:53
they're being paid to be part of that show.
58:54
They're being paid to put on a performance or being paid to get
58:57
in the right mindset to put a match together.
58:59
Like Our job as a content creator should be make an
59:01
impression but also respect the fact they're they're doing the
59:04
job as well. This is not a hangout for them
59:06
at a wrestling show so you got to conduct yourself a certain
59:08
way. Yeah.
59:10
Some people can be a little overwhelming with it and yeah it
59:13
did kind of get it can be like that for sure.
59:17
Yeah, so there's your advice from a BJ.
59:19
Do you punish? Yeah yeah but dude, thank you so
59:23
much. I appreciate your time.
59:25
Like I said, part 2 coming up, we're going to learn about, you
59:28
know, what you're into. And I like I said, Dude, you
59:30
were the ghost shirt. I wanted to talk to you for
59:31
hours about music, but I want to get this origin story out there
59:34
and I wanted people to hear about you, and and hear about
59:37
you as the person. And, like I said, man, just keep
59:40
killing it. You're fucking doing awesome
59:43
links below for not just a BJ, but for Rocket by some
59:46
merchandise by birds eye for both of us, you know, I mean,
59:48
where you're a BJ answer and and let's, let's, let's get that
59:52
support going. Follow us on social media and
59:54
we'll see. I'll see you on Thursday at 7
59:57
p.m. for the The much-anticipated interview,
1:00:01
first-ever with Prince, Ahmed and you'll be seeing him square
1:00:05
up very, very soon at the sanctuary against rocket here as
1:00:10
well, but thank you guys so much for hanging out with us.
1:00:12
We'll see you next time. Here's some outro music, by the
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