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03/03/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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Speaker 2: You'll look at this play. What we're trying to get
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Speaker 2: Let's go on what you do? Yeah? And they can
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Speaker 3: Why left bake three ninety sick bag be he see punk?
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Speaker 2: Is that long enough for I watch it? To be
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Speaker 2: proud of a professional. It's a great professional. Go out
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Speaker 2: there and playing this ball game like I know you
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Speaker 2: can play it.
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Speaker 1: Drew Olson, mythical legendary figure Schmid.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, this man's been out all night. Armand sorry,
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Speaker 2: It's a cutting crack Tuesday, cut them, crack them, cutting
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Speaker 2: Madison everywhere on the iHeart app, YouTube x and Facebook
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Speaker 2: for you streamers. Good morning, folks. I'm Drew along with
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Speaker 2: Billy and Arman, and I had a thought rolling in
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Speaker 2: as my You know, the stuff that rumbles around your
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Speaker 2: head the pre dawn hours, A lot of dangerous, too dangerous.
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Speaker 2: In the early nineteen seventies, boys, there was a rock
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Speaker 2: critic in Boston at a scruffy little paper named John Landau.
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Speaker 2: And he went and saw a show and uh, he
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Speaker 2: was blown away by the band on stage and by
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Speaker 2: the efforts of the front man. And he wrote a
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Speaker 2: column in this little weekly in Boston that became I
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Speaker 2: guess kind of like it was a foreshadowing. He said,
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Speaker 2: on a night when I needed to feel young again,
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Speaker 2: I he went and saw Bruce Springsteen. He said, I've
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Speaker 2: seen rock and roll's future and its name is Bruce Springsteen.
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Speaker 2: How about that? Yep, look at the future. And he
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Speaker 2: ended up being Springsteen's manager, and together they helped conquer
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Speaker 2: the rock and roll world. Well, what a parlay into
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Speaker 2: a great job. Last night, have we seen the Milwaukee
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Speaker 2: Bucks future with Giannis working his way in and them
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Speaker 2: getting slaughtered by a good team, and just it looked
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Speaker 2: disjointed and this, you know, rough to watch? Is that
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Speaker 2: what life is going to be like? Like comes nineteen
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Speaker 2: and eleven, played twenty six minutes. Just great to see
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Speaker 2: him back out on the field dipping a toe into
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Speaker 2: the water. But he did against the Celtics and the
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Speaker 2: Celtics who and some guys that I had not really
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Speaker 2: heard of that much, Jalen Brown out and just throttled
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Speaker 2: the Bucks. The Bucks had nothing for them, And that
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Speaker 2: just made you think, well, not that you expected Giannis
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Speaker 2: to be lights out and that everything was gonna be
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Speaker 2: all great.
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Speaker 3: And then the play felt like first basket for you,
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Speaker 3: honest get the ball in Big Fella's hands. Yes, oh
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Speaker 3: rumble that crowd early right with the world fellas back.
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Speaker 2: But is this what it's gonna be like if you
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Speaker 2: have a player you love fronting a team of ja
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Speaker 2: brons that are going to get slaughtered on a nightly
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Speaker 2: basis and not be competitive or interesting. I think it
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Speaker 2: potentially is.
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Speaker 3: I think we've watched it a lot, sadly throughout the
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Speaker 3: year drew just without understanding fully that the team might
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Speaker 3: have been cheeks throughout and that we had some higher
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Speaker 3: expectations for where it could have gone earlier on. But
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Speaker 3: the tough one is, like, you do still want to
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Speaker 3: be able to see the explosive young guards that you
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Speaker 3: enjoyed watching for the last five weeks while Big Fella
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Speaker 3: was getting healthy.
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Speaker 2: They go phill be able to.
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Speaker 3: Be explosive, albeit while you know you get Kyle Kuzma
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Speaker 3: coach's decisions. I didn't think people were gonna be upset
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Speaker 3: about that, but then last night they were.
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Speaker 2: What a world we're in when people were upset about that?
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Speaker 3: It feels like when Yanna steps on the floor again,
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Speaker 3: understandably so peak of his power, maybe prime of his career.
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Speaker 3: Everyone expects the twenty twenty one Bucks to come on here. However,
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Speaker 3: much more like we've been watching, are the twenty twelve
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Speaker 3: and twenty thirteen Bucks cosplaying as the twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: One Bucks, right, like I mean it, just in different uniforms.
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Speaker 3: This is a red and green version of the team
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Speaker 3: in the Green and Cream Cities last night, and just
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Speaker 3: with a front man that is just getting himself back
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Speaker 3: in well.
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Speaker 4: And I think also I never would have expected to
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Speaker 4: hear you honestly, I'm just happy to be out there,
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Speaker 4: had to be back to be out there. Well, obviously
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Speaker 4: he's rusty, and it's a new chemistry when he's in there,
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Speaker 4: it's a totally different dynamic. And you are playing the Celtics,
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Speaker 4: So in that sense, I get it. But you're right,
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Speaker 4: there wasn't much so it was.
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Speaker 2: Listless thirty one year old what thirteen year veterans saying that, yeah,
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Speaker 2: glad to be playing. I'm not taking nice for granted anymore,
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Speaker 2: because yeah, they just had the longest absence of his career. Basically,
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Speaker 2: but to your point, Billy really quit.
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Speaker 4: You do feel like, yeah, you're honest is back, so
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Speaker 4: everything can be different when you honest is on the court.
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Speaker 4: You feel like anything can be different. You might see
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Speaker 4: us play like a championship team. Again, it wasn't like that.
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Speaker 2: And then we leave it to the great order Bobby Portis,
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Speaker 2: the mayor of Milwaukee unofficially to put it in, like, okay,
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Speaker 2: so what happened? Because I raised your hand, I was
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Speaker 2: fooled and maybe intrigued when they won eight out of ten, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: for sure fired up at that point. Now they've lost
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Speaker 2: three games, sportsbook, They've lost three games by a combined
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Speaker 2: seventy nine points. That bad to the Knicks, Bulls and Celtics. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's bad and not great. Bob and Bobby Portis is
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Speaker 2: quote like, what's going on? Just playing better teams kind
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Speaker 2: of fool's goal for real? Rolling eight out of ten,
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Speaker 2: playing against bottom teams, teams that's trying to lose for real, right,
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Speaker 2: playing against some teams that are jockeying for position. We
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Speaker 2: used to be in that position too, jockeying for position.
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Speaker 2: You got certain games on your schedule, you can't lose.
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Speaker 2: Guys are circling us and saying we can't lose to
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Speaker 2: that team. So they're coming in and trying to win
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Speaker 2: that game. That's a must win game for them, can't
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Speaker 2: drop it. That's how they're looking at us, right. Credit
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Speaker 2: the other teams for locking in and getting a dub,
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Speaker 2: but on our side got to look at it as
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Speaker 2: the hungry team, the team that's hunting them. Now. Crazy
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Speaker 2: how fast time and things can change and shift. But
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Speaker 2: so much season left, right, We've got five and a
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Speaker 2: half six weeks to fix it. I think we will Ooh.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I like that last little bit and I little
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Speaker 3: but the keeping it real parts, So keeping it real part,
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Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, yeah, well they beat Cleveland and Cleveland
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Speaker 3: had basically their D league or league team out. Okay, well,
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Speaker 3: starting lineup and street close. Yeah, Bobby's keeping it real.
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Speaker 2: And like I admit I was fooled, Like, oh, look
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Speaker 2: at the way they're rolling through the balls moving you know,
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Speaker 2: it's they're getting different guys stepping up, But it was
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Speaker 2: mostly Rollins and Kevin Porter Junior. When we do the
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Speaker 2: autopsy of this Buck season, if it's even worth one,
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Speaker 2: that would be a tough deal. Yeah, do we. I
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Speaker 2: just can't get around the fact that, like Kevin Porter
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Speaker 2: Junior is pretty good player, and he was out the
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Speaker 2: first twenty games or nineteen of the first twenty got
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Speaker 2: hurt on opening night, right, Yeah, and that is that
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Speaker 2: is you know, was that the lynch pin, the butterfly
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Speaker 2: effect that fluttered its wings and made everything else happen
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Speaker 2: content away.
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Speaker 3: The tough thing is, like, I can't think that they're
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Speaker 3: a Damian Lillard injury right before the playoffs or a
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Speaker 3: Giannis injury in the first year of that duo away
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Speaker 3: from being competitive in the postseason serious, because I just don't.
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Speaker 2: Know that I saw it fully but drew.
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Speaker 3: Like the lack of chemistry with them, I think had
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Speaker 3: something to do with them not being able to play
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Speaker 3: together early, because they haven't really been able to be
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Speaker 3: in sync, healthy and at full go together at all.
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Speaker 3: And while it's given Ryan Rollins a chance to play
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Speaker 3: in and flourish and see what he can do in
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Speaker 3: the NBA, I think notice his bit ball dominant, and
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Speaker 3: like when he feels like he might have some of
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Speaker 3: those opportunities taken away, it gets a little, a little nervous,
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Speaker 3: a little sticky with the basketball. So like I think
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Speaker 3: the lack of flow isn't stunning, but again, if we
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Speaker 3: do the we pull out all the guts of it,
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Speaker 3: and sadly, right there in the middle of One of
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Speaker 3: the big problems in the gut might be the fact
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Speaker 3: that Miles Turner just I mean, played like nineteen minutes
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Speaker 3: and gave like four points. And I do think Miles
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Speaker 3: Turner is better than whatever he's played this year.
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Speaker 2: I just don't know it.
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Speaker 3: He thinks he fully knows what he's supposed to be doing,
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Speaker 3: what his goal is exactly going on, and you can
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Speaker 3: say that that's coaching, and there's absolutely truth to it.
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Speaker 3: I think there's also someonus on the player of being
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Speaker 3: able to identify it and work through some of it.
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Speaker 3: But they they've been able to pull out and extract
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Speaker 3: a couple of players that look like pieces going forward
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Speaker 3: in a gap year that tried to be disguised as
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Speaker 3: maybe not a gap year, it played itself out as
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Speaker 3: a gap year.
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Speaker 2: And you just have to see.
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Speaker 3: And ultimately, the only autopsy that I care about, the
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Speaker 3: end result is gonna be right near that Jane or
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Speaker 3: July first, or August first. However, far Sham's and Wendy
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Speaker 3: want to push the trade conversation for Giannis because as
9:18
Speaker 3: long as he potentially signs that super Max on October first,
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Speaker 3: I think it all worked out. Yeah, and it's an
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Speaker 3: example too.
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Speaker 4: I think, why why trying to win the culture of
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Speaker 4: trying to win and expecting a win does matter, Because
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Speaker 4: there was a time when the Bucks what walked out
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Speaker 4: in the court, you know, all being healthy, with all
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Speaker 4: these different players in a different roster, and would have
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Speaker 4: expected it win every night. I think even with Gianni's
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Speaker 4: back and the Celtics on the on the schedule, it seemed.
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Speaker 2: Like to me they just kind of expected that.
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Speaker 4: They were, Okay, we're gonna lose, like this other team
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Speaker 4: is better than us, and therefore they're gonna outplay us,
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Speaker 4: and therefore it did happen. You know, you look at
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Speaker 4: these guys, you're like, yes, the Celtics are better than
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Speaker 4: the Bucks, but they but it's not just the talent.
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Speaker 4: They seem to play better, right, So it's easy to
9:59
Speaker 4: jump on code. I know that's a big factor. And I
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Speaker 4: know a lot of people said, okay, you know issue
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Speaker 4: one is duc but you know you can play better
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Speaker 4: than this, and the Bucks haven't been able to, especially
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Speaker 4: on the defensive end.
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Speaker 2: Rollins was getting cooked enough for me last night.
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Speaker 4: So it seems like to me that the challenge of
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Speaker 4: playing with Giannis will be completely different, because, like you said, Billy,
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Speaker 4: the way guys can have ball usage, can use the
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Speaker 4: ball will be totally different, and therefore they have to
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Speaker 4: almost figure a whole new way to play with Giannis.
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Speaker 4: And that's just there's gonna be a period there, a
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Speaker 4: trial period where you have every player trying to figure
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Speaker 4: out how they can maximize their own ability with having
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Speaker 4: a guy like.
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Speaker 2: Gianna's on the court who will be the center of
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Speaker 2: the universe.
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Speaker 3: If they knew he was going to come back around
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Speaker 3: this time, Dree, they do they plan at the right time?
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Speaker 3: Did they do it right on Monday night, like five
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Speaker 3: or six hours before the game? Shanzadaya, He's expected to
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Speaker 3: play like okay, off a back to back, and I
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Speaker 3: get it was in Chicago, but like I saw that
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Speaker 3: as one of the more points of contention. It's not
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Speaker 3: like they're going to come off two days of practice
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Speaker 3: because you don't really practice in the NBA, but not really,
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Speaker 3: But I just I wonder if they hit it at
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Speaker 3: the right peak or as Arman said, he's like, let's
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Speaker 3: get him his first minutes here so then maybe he
11:08
Speaker 3: feels a little bit more comfortable against Dean Land on
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Speaker 3: Wednesday night in a game that you know you're hopefully
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Speaker 3: going to be able to win, that team that you're
11:14
Speaker 3: kind of chasing there in the nine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no like soft spot. I mean, should they
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Speaker 2: have played him against the Bulls? Meant that might have
11:20
Speaker 2: made a difference. It might not have been outscored twenty
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Speaker 2: seven to nothing. It might have stopped that run. It
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Speaker 2: might stop that run. So he goes twenty six minutes,
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Speaker 2: nineteen points on seven of eighteen shooting, which pretty good
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Speaker 2: first game back eleven rebounds to assist. Yeah, in like
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Speaker 2: eight and but then like Miles Turner didn't play hardly
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Speaker 2: at all at all, and the darry Bird didn't play
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Speaker 2: it as much. Right, that's the thing, the rotations, the
11:43
Speaker 2: rotations were askewed. It's well, yeah, what do we well?
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Speaker 2: And then again that's what we're asking, what does it
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Speaker 2: look like when he comes back? And if you're gonna
11:52
Speaker 2: have to dabble an experiment on the court, you're gonna
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Speaker 2: get results like last night. So was it good to
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Speaker 2: do it against Boston game? You think you're gonna lose anyway?
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Speaker 2: Or what? Maybe?
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Speaker 3: Like I just I think, like, yeah, I'd prefer to
12:03
Speaker 3: be able to you talk about the games that you
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Speaker 3: can't lose. Uh, Bobby Port has mentioned there the Bulls
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Speaker 3: would have been one for them. Yeah, you probably shouldn't
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Speaker 3: have been able to ultimately split that one up this back.
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Speaker 3: That's a backdrop that that really clouds going into last night.
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Speaker 3: But I also just like, at some point, if he's
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Speaker 3: healthy enough to play, he's got to play. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 3: unless you are going to shut him down, which I
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Speaker 3: don't agree with. At this point, You're you're six weeks away,
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Speaker 3: you got five home games here, and whether that's a
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Speaker 3: loser mentality, it's a twenty twenty six mentality, I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: You can look at that bull Drew every.
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Speaker 3: Single night, no not happy place, wake and bake moment,
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Speaker 3: but like you look at the inner the bowl, at
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Speaker 3: the fier of last night.
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Speaker 2: Rightfully.
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Speaker 3: So I get the Bucks saying, hey, I prefer to
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Speaker 3: see if we're gonna get him out here on one
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Speaker 3: of these two back to backs, why do we get
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Speaker 3: him out on the home date because we can maybe
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Speaker 3: use the bottlegy get some folks into the arena a
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Speaker 3: little bit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And but the thing is like, if you had
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Speaker 2: done that, let's say they had two off days and
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Speaker 2: you announced like forty eight hours before then. Back then,
13:03
Speaker 2: you know, people might you might have a walk up
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Speaker 2: like I didn't. They didn't have enough time to announce.
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Speaker 2: Like maybe even maybe that would have been a good
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Speaker 2: distraction after the brutal loss, Againt Chicago said well, yeah,
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Speaker 2: this is gonna come back tomorrow, and then give you
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Speaker 2: a little push. If I'm working in the Bucks, ticket
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Speaker 2: off as I'm thinking, hey, how about a little something
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Speaker 2: for the effort here? Come on, shine the shoes a
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Speaker 2: little bit. If you knew he was coming back, you
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Speaker 2: could have dropped that on Sunday, gave us a little
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Speaker 2: bit of a tea leave. I mean, like when the
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Speaker 2: news came down.
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Speaker 3: I'm an sometimes I have this moment when I go
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Speaker 3: back and listen to the show. You know we cut
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Speaker 3: through the tape, cut crack, and also check here today
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Speaker 3: on a school day game for Admiral Yeah, I thought
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Speaker 3: about it, like, damn Drew, maybe we should have asked
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Speaker 3: the question if when Giannis was gonna come back today,
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Speaker 3: because it just we knew he was getting close. Three
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Speaker 3: on three, four on four is getting close? He kind
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Speaker 3: of wondered, per you know, pop the question around. Don't
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Speaker 3: think anybody thought the second leg of a back to
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Speaker 3: back against Boston was going to be the day that
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Speaker 3: they brought him back, But six hours later, here he is.
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Speaker 2: If you were gonna target shoot the schedule, that's not
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Speaker 2: where you would the bulls eye.
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Speaker 4: Now. I know there's probably a lot more that goes
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Speaker 4: into it that's technical and medical that we think about,
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Speaker 4: but it really is interesting to think, well, what was
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Speaker 4: different in the twenty four hours before in Chicago that
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Speaker 4: could he couldn't have played the Well, he.
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Speaker 2: Didn't want to play after going to the elimination see
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Speaker 2: Elimination Chamber. Well and that one arman, I would have preferred.
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Speaker 3: If I'm the Bucks and be honest and be honest
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Speaker 3: with you, I prefer to play in front of my
14:24
Speaker 3: home crowd, I think than in Chicago game that I
14:27
Speaker 3: think we should be able to take care of because
14:29
Speaker 3: they've lost eleven in a row.
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Speaker 2: Because he's not going to roll back and play it
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Speaker 2: back to back. Yeah, he definitely wasn't playing that, so
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Speaker 2: I get that.
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Speaker 3: But again, maybe Wednesday night would have been the perfect
14:39
Speaker 3: night too. But like the thought that I saw some
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Speaker 3: people on posts shows and games last night being like, well,
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Speaker 3: you definitely can't do it here he can't do it.
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Speaker 3: You have to play him when he's ready. It seems
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Speaker 3: like he's been angling and pushing to play sooner, and
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Speaker 3: he mentioned a number of times there yesterday drew that
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Speaker 3: like this is the most patient he's been. It's rather uncomfortable.
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Speaker 3: And I can only assume that there were a lot
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Speaker 3: of uncomfortable situations behind closed doors saying hey, I'm ready
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Speaker 3: to get back out there, stop holding me back.
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Speaker 2: If that was the case, I absolutely agree.
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Speaker 4: Why would he say at the All Star break, I'm
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent ready, you know? To me, it strikes
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Speaker 4: of you know, there's a you know, a different difference
15:21
Speaker 4: of opinions behind the scenes on whether or not this
15:22
Speaker 4: team should tank or not. I mean to me, that's
15:25
Speaker 4: what it strikes me as. And then eventually that they,
15:28
Speaker 4: you know, somebody acquiesced to saying, Okay, you're honest, we're
15:31
Speaker 4: not gonna shut him down. He can play, but give
15:33
Speaker 4: us some time to lose some games. I think there's
15:35
Speaker 4: just a struggle there at some point, a power struggle
15:39
Speaker 4: there at some point somewhere that we just don't know
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Speaker 4: about or might not ever know about. But it's this
15:43
Speaker 4: kind of battle for the soul of Are we going
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Speaker 4: to be a team that tanks? Are we gonna try
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Speaker 4: and win? Are we gonna try and move forward with you?
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Speaker 2: Honest? It goes back to are we gonna trade you? Honest? Right?
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Speaker 4: It seems to be all that is there, And maybe
15:53
Speaker 4: that's the problem is there's no seems to be no
15:55
Speaker 4: clear direction in that sense anymore from ownership, front office
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Speaker 4: of who wants to make the decisions, who's going to
16:01
Speaker 4: be spearhading the decisions?
16:03
Speaker 2: Even for coaching, who knows?
16:04
Speaker 1: You know?
16:05
Speaker 2: All those things.
16:06
Speaker 4: Are kind of the revolving undercurrent in this season for
16:09
Speaker 4: the Bucks.
16:10
Speaker 3: I do think though, maybe we're litigating the tank conversation
16:16
Speaker 3: and Drew like the grandiose conversations every night more than
16:19
Speaker 3: they are in house. I think I've kind of made
16:23
Speaker 3: the full pivot on the tanking deal. It just doesn't
16:26
Speaker 3: make sense this year. Similar to me how the Luke
16:29
Speaker 3: Fickle firing or lack thereof at the end of this
16:32
Speaker 3: Badger football season, just like at some point, didn't make
16:35
Speaker 3: sense in the context of the year. If there's seven
16:38
Speaker 3: teams that are already actively tanking and seemingly much better
16:43
Speaker 3: at it than you, it might not be the year
16:46
Speaker 3: to go and target and have an opportunity to go
16:48
Speaker 3: and grab that said tank situation, just like when Fickle
16:53
Speaker 3: was on the hot seat. And I'm not saying going
16:56
Speaker 3: four to eight wasn't a fireable offense and getting beat
16:59
Speaker 3: seventy to nothing into consecutive home games in October wasn't that.
17:03
Speaker 3: But when you line it up and there's a third
17:07
Speaker 3: of the best jobs being available and you're going to
17:09
Speaker 3: continue to rank down, maybe not the best time to
17:12
Speaker 3: be looking for Heck, just maybe not the best year
17:14
Speaker 3: to be tanking. Figure it out. Go try to win
17:16
Speaker 3: some games, try to sell some tickets. I know that's
17:18
Speaker 3: again a bad way of looking at business, but it
17:21
Speaker 3: is a business at the end of the day, and
17:24
Speaker 3: business is not good here in twenty twenty five to
17:26
Speaker 3: twenty six. So get business rolling a little bit better
17:30
Speaker 3: into the offseason and then we see if it can
17:32
Speaker 3: boom going on October.
17:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, instead of destroying all these things, trying to lose
17:36
Speaker 4: this in that, you know, getting people frustrated, getting it
17:39
Speaker 4: all to get what two more ping pong balls. I mean,
17:41
Speaker 4: the juice is rarely worth the squeeze in this situation.
17:43
Speaker 4: When you said you have so many teams tanking anyway.
17:46
Speaker 4: So it's like, you're not going to get to that
17:47
Speaker 4: point where you're overtaking those other teams for the extra
17:50
Speaker 4: balls pause, you know, the extra ping pong balls.
17:53
Speaker 2: So what's the point. I totally agree with you at
17:55
Speaker 2: this point.
17:56
Speaker 4: I think it's taking is one of those easy throat
17:58
Speaker 4: against the wall narratives that's easy just to say, like
18:00
Speaker 4: tank or not tank, tank or not, But in reality,
18:03
Speaker 4: what are you doing here? Why are you really helping
18:05
Speaker 4: your team? What kind of extra edge or advantage you're
18:07
Speaker 4: getting in the graft. It's not that much.
18:09
Speaker 2: And don't give me Dallas tank last year. It didn't.
18:11
Speaker 2: They got lucky.
18:12
Speaker 3: They got lucky as hell because they had Anthony Davis
18:15
Speaker 3: playing short rest on a back injury to try to
18:18
Speaker 3: get into the playoffs and win the play in game.
18:22
Speaker 3: If they win that game, they don't get Cooper flag.
18:25
Speaker 3: So they didn't tank. They actually did everything possible to
18:28
Speaker 3: not tank, still didn't do it and then got lucked out.
18:31
Speaker 4: And who knows it if you're in the lottery somewhere
18:33
Speaker 4: that might happen for you. As a Bucks fan, all
18:35
Speaker 4: you can do is home. I mean, all you can
18:36
Speaker 4: do is hope, you know, the year we get the
18:38
Speaker 4: first pick, it's gonna end up being Bogan or some Bennett. Oh.
18:42
Speaker 4: I like Andrew Bogan. It just wasn't generationally. You get
18:44
Speaker 4: my point though.
18:45
Speaker 2: Sorry, when we're all excited and focused on Giannis, it's
18:49
Speaker 2: Hugo Gonzalez. Thank you. Do you want to talk about
18:53
Speaker 2: what old Steve Heyway? He's still getting checked in. I
18:59
Speaker 2: thought he was like a clothe designer or something like that.
19:01
Speaker 2: I thought it was too different.
19:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he was a release for you know,
19:03
Speaker 4: Hugo Gonzales cologne. You know it's on sale Marshall's, you know.
19:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my goodness, eight seven seven seven nine. You're
19:11
Speaker 2: to get to the Nicola Lodock. I'm talking Texan. I'm
19:13
Speaker 2: gonna do some buying and selling today. We've got Matt
19:16
Speaker 2: Miller holstered up to talk to us this morning. You
19:19
Speaker 2: can't wait for that one. Amazing. I might be a
19:21
Speaker 2: movie guy now, Drew. I like, I'm excited to talk.
19:23
Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk about it with Matt and going
19:25
Speaker 2: to the movie. I think I think it might be
19:26
Speaker 2: a movie guy. You mentioned that today. I thought about that.
19:29
Speaker 2: Let's go. You're a movie guy and a zoo guy.
19:30
Speaker 2: Welcome to the next phase of your life.
19:32
Speaker 3: That's right, You're Admiral School Day game guy, right, Welcome.
19:37
Speaker 2: The mid Yeah, Thomas, you think twenty three is getting old?
19:40
Speaker 2: Thomas Lacrosse, you got new, I Got news. You're in
19:43
Speaker 2: the Huddle. Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin Tuesday edition of The
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Speaker 2: Huddle continues Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin nine to twenty, Milwaukee
19:55
Speaker 2: ten seventy, and Madison everywhere. I heart App speaking the
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Speaker 2: iHeart App early and often use the talk back feature
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Speaker 2: today to try to win your way into a SAS's
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Speaker 2: VIP experience. Our pal SAS fifty fifth in state, the finest,
20:11
Speaker 2: oh the history. If you've been to a festival in Wisconsin,
20:13
Speaker 2: you've sampled a sampler platter. How can you not? The
20:16
Speaker 2: best thing going. Sas is just such a wonderful guy,
20:19
Speaker 2: and we're teaming up with him. He's celebrating his fiftieth
20:21
Speaker 2: anniversary this year, and we've got this contest going. You
20:25
Speaker 2: and a guest will win tickets to the Iheartsweet American
20:27
Speaker 2: Family Field for the second game of the twenty twenty
20:30
Speaker 2: six championship season Milwaukee and Chicago. That's a Saturday. I'm sorry,
20:35
Speaker 2: that's a six to ten start on the twenty eighth.
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Speaker 3: And a sweet giveaway a model American family field they're
20:41
Speaker 3: giving away that night.
20:43
Speaker 2: That is awesome. I mean they're just thinking of so
20:44
Speaker 2: many good things too. So you're gonna get two tickets
20:47
Speaker 2: for the suite. I think we might be hanging out
20:49
Speaker 2: in there. Maybe, Oh nice. You'll get food drink at
20:53
Speaker 2: sas Is before the game, and a shuttle to and
20:55
Speaker 2: from the ballpark. All of it's covered. Tickets, food, drink, transportation.
20:59
Speaker 2: You got to go to the iHeartRadio app via Fox
21:01
Speaker 2: Sports nine twenty and record a message stating your name,
21:05
Speaker 2: your phone number, your hometown, and your favorite memory of
21:08
Speaker 2: SAS's favorite menu item, just a little story about SAS
21:11
Speaker 2: and you can be entered to win the VIP experience,
21:15
Speaker 2: but the whole thing. March twenty sixth through the twenty
21:18
Speaker 2: ninth at SAS's, it's gonna be epic, absolutely epic. They're
21:23
Speaker 2: celebrating the fiftieth anniversary, four days of music, a heated
21:26
Speaker 2: tent throwback, pricing specials, brew Crew opening Day, Milwaukee's largest
21:32
Speaker 2: fish fry, epic Bloody Mary Brunch. It is going to
21:34
Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. On the Thursday, Saturday and
21:37
Speaker 2: Sunday admission is free fifty fifth in state. Go to
21:41
Speaker 2: SASS dot com slash fifty for more information. So smash
21:44
Speaker 2: that talkback button in little microphone on the iHeartRadio app.
21:48
Speaker 3: Does the moment that I found out that they sell
21:51
Speaker 3: SAS's barbecue sauce in Picking Safe and Proger stores. So
21:56
Speaker 3: I see that the yes, I can lather it up
21:59
Speaker 3: on the rid on the tragger does not count as
22:01
Speaker 3: one I have. I fully believe, as you mentioned and Drew,
22:05
Speaker 3: if you've been to a festival, you've sampled this ampler platter.
22:08
Speaker 3: I wonder how many are going to say that one
22:10
Speaker 3: shive fry that, you know, one certain Tuesday night at Summerfest,
22:14
Speaker 3: not a pic, that's the one, just you.
22:16
Speaker 4: Know, protecting your plate of the sampler platter while you
22:19
Speaker 4: know you're watching something on the U Line stage or
22:22
Speaker 4: the Briggs and Stratton backyard or whatever the names of
22:24
Speaker 4: the stages were, you know.
22:25
Speaker 2: While the rain is starting to trickle down.
22:27
Speaker 4: But you're good because you're protecting your hots as a
22:29
Speaker 4: sampler and the dip you know you got the while
22:33
Speaker 4: you're bouncing on the on the bench, you know, watching
22:36
Speaker 4: the concert.
22:36
Speaker 3: I like that yours is covering it up and protecting it.
22:40
Speaker 3: I thought there were gonna be a lot of people,
22:41
Speaker 3: you know, sampling and sharing the sampler platter maybe you know,
22:45
Speaker 3: sharing a hive fry with Yes.
22:47
Speaker 4: Exactly, I'm a sharer. I'm not again, you know, some
22:51
Speaker 4: people hate sharing their own stuff. I don't mind it,
22:53
Speaker 4: like I get it. Why you're saying that, Billy, And yeah, ah,
22:56
Speaker 4: that's funny.
22:57
Speaker 2: That's where romances, any romances be they you know, maybe
23:03
Speaker 2: Billy's talking about there's people who've been married for forty
23:05
Speaker 2: years that shared a sampler in their first sampler, and
23:08
Speaker 2: then there's people who maybe are together for forty five minutes. Yeah,
23:12
Speaker 2: that get together over the sampler. These people together.
23:15
Speaker 4: When when Lauren and I went on one of our
23:18
Speaker 4: early dates, the summer fest, and I said, look, you
23:21
Speaker 4: gotta we're gonna try a lot of great things to
23:23
Speaker 4: do with summer fests, you know, concerts and we can
23:25
Speaker 4: take a walk on by the lake and you know
23:27
Speaker 4: this guy, this sky gladder. You know, there's a lot
23:30
Speaker 4: of great things to do. But the first thing we
23:32
Speaker 4: got to do in all this great food here, all
23:33
Speaker 4: these great events, there's drinks and stuff. We're gonna try
23:36
Speaker 4: a sampler platter at Sazes. And you know, she wasn't
23:38
Speaker 4: from Milwaukee, so she didn't know about Sazes, but she
23:41
Speaker 4: quickly understood that this is one of the best things going.
23:43
Speaker 4: But I'll be honest with you, the sampler platter, it's
23:46
Speaker 4: all good and everything like that, but I go for
23:47
Speaker 4: the chicken tenders because you get the fries too with it. Yeah,
23:50
Speaker 4: you know, so I feel like I'm getting the deal there.
23:52
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm getting the value.
23:54
Speaker 2: They phased out the clamstrips they used. Those were those
23:56
Speaker 2: were the days.
23:57
Speaker 4: I just didn't think clam strips hit with this community
23:59
Speaker 4: for some reason. You know, we're not, but that was
24:01
Speaker 4: the years. But then it's yeah, you got your you know,
24:04
Speaker 4: herds to beat, but you're right, the tender and fries
24:09
Speaker 4: that was.
24:10
Speaker 3: That was generally the lunch my time's working at Summerfest
24:15
Speaker 3: in the Bucks boot the quick Summer Fest lunch because
24:17
Speaker 3: there was one right next to that sports zone. Yeah,
24:20
Speaker 3: so you're booking it right over there, grabbing some food,
24:22
Speaker 3: coming right back, knowing at nine o'clock that is going
24:25
Speaker 3: to hit like absolute rocket field. Oh my god, yeah,
24:29
Speaker 3: it really absolute. Yeah, it really just rereving the engine up,
24:33
Speaker 3: because you do need some life going into that ten
24:35
Speaker 3: o'clock show. You do, like there is that moment where
24:38
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, all right, I don't know who
24:40
Speaker 3: Milky Chance has been that has been playing here from nine.
24:44
Speaker 2: It's actually a real guy. Oh sure, he's awesome. I
24:47
Speaker 2: feel bad not you're out there listening.
24:51
Speaker 3: Milky Chances, right Like, I'm like, I don't know what
24:54
Speaker 3: this has been, but I need to get some some
24:57
Speaker 3: life in me and some fuel. Arming goes by the lake.
25:00
Speaker 2: I mean sure. I guess there's some people that if
25:02
Speaker 2: they need to know, you need to wake up at
25:03
Speaker 2: summerfessor take a walk over by the lake. I like
25:05
Speaker 2: where your head's at arm Well, oh, I don't you
25:08
Speaker 2: think that's wrong. That's what you can pretty much avail
25:10
Speaker 2: yourself anywhere. You mean you mean the you mean the
25:15
Speaker 2: the by the rocks for all the bad kids. Yeah, yeah,
25:18
Speaker 2: that's what Billy is referring to. The thing is use
25:21
Speaker 2: that talkback button. It's on the app.
25:22
Speaker 4: I was. I was kind of surfing through the talkbacks yesterday.
25:25
Speaker 4: You know, there's some really interesting stuff on there. You guys,
25:28
Speaker 4: over the years have been great at sharing some great talkback,
25:31
Speaker 4: some great some great takes. You know. Obviously, yes, you
25:34
Speaker 4: can always comment on a text line. You can always
25:36
Speaker 4: get us right here on the YouTube x and Facebook comments,
25:39
Speaker 4: but you can also make your voice heard in that
25:41
Speaker 4: sense as well. But we need some more, we need
25:44
Speaker 4: some more feedback on that talkback app. It's a great
25:46
Speaker 4: app and it's fun to listen through after a show,
25:48
Speaker 4: let me tell you. So we'll get some of those
25:51
Speaker 4: and you can and you can enter and win this
25:52
Speaker 4: great prize. So it's fantastic stuff.
25:55
Speaker 3: I'm excited because any chance that we get to we
25:57
Speaker 3: work with Sas, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be fired.
26:00
Speaker 2: It's just such a wonderful like that.
26:01
Speaker 3: That's the thing there, there's certain there's certain people to
26:04
Speaker 3: celebrate in the city. Drew and Sas from people all
26:09
Speaker 3: walks of life, any age, demographics don't really matter. He
26:12
Speaker 3: treats everybody as first classes.
26:15
Speaker 2: You can be no doubt, no doubt, And we were.
26:17
Speaker 2: I was actually at sas Is the last evening. Hey awesome. Yeah,
26:22
Speaker 2: and they the service there is always so on point
26:25
Speaker 2: and there's so many people that says is touched Like
26:28
Speaker 2: I have this whole theory about how SAS is SAZ started,
26:31
Speaker 2: you know, like the cradle of bars in Milwaukee. Uh,
26:35
Speaker 2: the current generation was formed at like Major Goulsbie's and
26:38
Speaker 2: SAS and this gentleman named John Burdock Bingo and these
26:41
Speaker 2: other guys that worked there under Jerry Cohen then went
26:44
Speaker 2: out and opened their own joints and they all they
26:46
Speaker 2: all adhere to the same old school. You know, serve
26:49
Speaker 2: people like that you never have to wait for a
26:52
Speaker 2: drink like I've been, it says, when it's crowded. They
26:55
Speaker 2: got that round bar in the middle and you they
26:57
Speaker 2: have two people working there and nobody waiting. It's like
27:01
Speaker 2: they're so efficient, they're so good, and they're so on point,
27:04
Speaker 2: and they there's so many hundreds of kids that come
27:06
Speaker 2: through and work for SaaS at the festivals and they
27:08
Speaker 2: learn that's their first job and they learn how to
27:10
Speaker 2: actually work like they drain people and they're actually so
27:14
Speaker 2: good and so efficient, and there's a reason that you're
27:16
Speaker 2: in business for fifty years in a in an industry
27:18
Speaker 2: where a lot of people don't make it fifty days. Yes,
27:20
Speaker 2: is that like the is that like more like the
27:22
Speaker 2: home grin coaching tree. Yeah, it's kind of Yeah, it's
27:26
Speaker 2: got tentacles every yeah, everywhere. So, yeah, these guys are
27:30
Speaker 2: this the OG's the greatest, and SaaS is one of
27:32
Speaker 2: the and he's such a good friend of the admirals
27:34
Speaker 2: and all the teams. And basically now like all these gigantic,
27:39
Speaker 2: fantastasized gatherings and opening day celebrations and stuff, they all
27:44
Speaker 2: owe a debt to SaaS because he was the first one.
27:47
Speaker 2: He put up the tennis parking lot. He'd have a
27:48
Speaker 2: band and they'd start before the game and then go
27:51
Speaker 2: back after the game, and that was the spot. And
27:53
Speaker 2: there were times there was a time back in the
27:56
Speaker 2: day when Thursday night that's where you went to be
27:59
Speaker 2: c and be seen. For sure, they had the karaoke
28:01
Speaker 2: night that was famous there, the singing Machine with Jeff Keller.
28:04
Speaker 2: So the roots that Sas has and then branching into
28:06
Speaker 2: the festivals and the groceries and big time. What a
28:09
Speaker 2: success story. Just a wonderful man. So we want, we're
28:11
Speaker 2: glad to be celebrating Saz with him. You mentioned it
28:14
Speaker 2: how everybody just kind of followed through after that. Major
28:17
Speaker 2: goals is heating And again maybe I'm wrong here, He's
28:20
Speaker 2: the first one that I know and felt of or
28:22
Speaker 2: like SASS was one of the first shuttles. Yeah, you
28:25
Speaker 2: talk about almost Brewers.
28:29
Speaker 3: Now you can catch a ride to any game, whether
28:32
Speaker 3: it's a Marquette game. You gonna have a baby race
28:33
Speaker 3: apparently on on Saturday at the Marquete game, there's gonna
28:37
Speaker 3: be how about that, there's gonna be a special tot
28:40
Speaker 3: that's apparently gonna be. Uh you can you can take
28:44
Speaker 3: the ride to Marquette Bucks games. Packers was another one
28:48
Speaker 3: that they were like one of the first ones and
28:50
Speaker 3: now dam near every bar in the city takes a
28:53
Speaker 3: ride up to a Packers game and it's alleviated a
28:55
Speaker 3: lot of stress and a lot of accidents.
28:58
Speaker 2: On the way home. Heer in that regard. And then
29:01
Speaker 2: the festivals with you know obviously Summerfest and State Fair,
29:04
Speaker 2: Summerfest SAS has been such a huge partner the unbelievable.
29:08
Speaker 2: So shout out to SAZ, congratulations on the fiftieth anniversary
29:12
Speaker 2: and go to this, go to the iHeart app and
29:14
Speaker 2: smash that talkback button, get in that sucker, make it happen.
29:18
Speaker 4: It is nice to know that we always lament things
29:20
Speaker 4: changing and like institutions leaving in the city you know,
29:24
Speaker 4: we always lament like do you remember the old old
29:26
Speaker 4: you know, the old my favorite restaurant.
29:28
Speaker 2: It's not there anymore.
29:29
Speaker 4: You know that this is a great example of one
29:31
Speaker 4: that's alive, not only like I was, thriving still there.
29:34
Speaker 4: It makes you feel real whole, real solid to know
29:36
Speaker 4: your neighborhood sponts are still there, that the traditions are
29:39
Speaker 4: still there and thriving.
29:40
Speaker 2: And you know what, as I think of it, and
29:42
Speaker 2: we mentioned it yesterday, Orlando's got Magic City. We got Sas, yes,
29:47
Speaker 2: and it's like that would be an iconic and Sas
29:50
Speaker 2: is like that's where athletes have hung out and coaches,
29:53
Speaker 2: managers umpires. I was thinking of Bruce Framing because he
29:56
Speaker 2: used to go, says when when Bruce Framing was UH
29:59
Speaker 2: for a much of his career, he was a National
30:01
Speaker 2: Leaguempire didn't get the work games in Milwaukee because Milwaukee
30:03
Speaker 2: was in the American League. But he sent all his
30:05
Speaker 2: umpire buddies disasses and they would go there before and
30:07
Speaker 2: after games. And if there was a game at seven o'clock,
30:11
Speaker 2: you'd see them eating the late lunch and going right
30:13
Speaker 2: down to the ballpark.
30:14
Speaker 3: Well, you said it like the place to be seen
30:16
Speaker 3: like it was the spot for a long time, and
30:18
Speaker 3: then to still be roaring like it does now.
30:21
Speaker 2: It's a winner.
30:21
Speaker 3: How about this one for the fiftieth anniversary right now,
30:24
Speaker 3: Celebrate like it's nineteen seventy six. Purchase a six out
30:26
Speaker 3: collector's Pilsner glass for six bucks and get seventy six
30:30
Speaker 3: cent refills all year long.
30:33
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's increable. I don't know that we
30:37
Speaker 2: thought that one. Yeah, you'll need me. I don't know
30:38
Speaker 2: that a lot of challices. That's a lot, ben arm
30:43
Speaker 2: And you'll love this too, because some of your great
30:45
Speaker 2: sports memories were going to sasses, like before a Birders
30:47
Speaker 2: game or even sas was just like a special tree
30:50
Speaker 2: because somehow in my early in my youth, I discovered
30:52
Speaker 2: that I loved ribs. My pets would indulge me so
30:55
Speaker 2: special meals and the birthdays and occasions were at sases.
30:58
Speaker 2: But then that and going to Gooles Beast for that
31:01
Speaker 2: cheeseburger while dad got the beer before you went to
31:03
Speaker 2: a Butcher Marquette game. Right that, Those were the two,
31:07
Speaker 2: you know, part of the tradition persolutely baked into my DNA. Yeah,
31:11
Speaker 2: those spots and that's you know, there are people in
31:14
Speaker 2: Madison that have their you know, Oh, we went to
31:16
Speaker 2: Dotties for a burger, then we go to the Gamer,
31:18
Speaker 2: we go to this, we go to the Gritty. Like
31:20
Speaker 2: everybody has their kind of pregame rituals. So if you
31:23
Speaker 2: have one, share it with us. But be sure and
31:24
Speaker 2: go to the iHeart app, use the talk back when
31:26
Speaker 2: and smash that microphone. Give us your name, your hometown,
31:30
Speaker 2: and your SAS story, SAS memory, or your favorite sas
31:33
Speaker 2: menu item, and you can be entered to win that
31:35
Speaker 2: VIP package, which is to hang out in a suite
31:37
Speaker 2: and you go to SASS before and after, but you're
31:39
Speaker 2: hanging out in a suite for that second game of
31:41
Speaker 2: the year. I messed up. I messed up.
31:42
Speaker 3: My favorite SASS moment definitely should have been one of
31:44
Speaker 3: the dates I took with my girl, my then girlfriend
31:47
Speaker 3: now wife. Okay, one of the first Brewer game we
31:49
Speaker 3: ever went to. You went to There You Go. Now,
31:52
Speaker 3: that was a day where Drew. I thought about it
31:55
Speaker 3: because Drew said I have the affinity for ribs. That point,
31:58
Speaker 3: I wasn't making ribs that point. I didn't have a smoker,
32:00
Speaker 3: so I wasn't but then you're on you know, maybe
32:03
Speaker 3: your fifth or sixth date, Our ribs really to sell
32:07
Speaker 3: might not be a tough she loved me at that
32:09
Speaker 3: point I knew that was that's when you just rib sauce.
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Speaker 4: You're past the stage of like having to you know,
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Speaker 4: watch your piece and q's and six mostls.
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Speaker 2: Just sitting here comfortable. Hey.
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Speaker 4: One of my favorite acts, you know they that was
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Speaker 4: in the That was the pregame meal last weekend in
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Speaker 4: the UH in the Admirals media room. I mean I
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Speaker 4: crossed those you know, you know what I'm talking about,
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Speaker 4: Like this one, you just can't turn down.
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Speaker 2: You get Saz's ribs in the media room. Giddy, Yeah, man,
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Speaker 2: that's my favorite. Okay, there's my ros most recent favorite
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Speaker 2: memory Friday. Talk about that crushing that in the press room.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what Yah. They get sas Is in there.
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Speaker 2: So it's fantastic. All Right, we're gonna do some buying
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Speaker 2: and selling. Definitely buying Sazes. That's coming up at six o'clock.
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Speaker 2: We got Dolf rolling in for our halftime report at
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Speaker 2: six thirty, and of course Matt Miller joins us at seven.
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Speaker 2: That's that's a hard, hard prize to be like. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: sometimes there's prizes where I look and I'm like, all right, well, listen.
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Speaker 3: Luckily we have really really loyal listeners that like to
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Speaker 3: hang out. Now, that's not a hard one to sell.
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Speaker 3: That's going to be a fun, fun time to be with,
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Speaker 3: absolutely all right.
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Speaker 2: So as we venture to buy or sell, there's a
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Speaker 2: headline from yesterday that took some people by some surprise.
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Speaker 2: Little little transaction of Clemson South Carolina where it looks
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Speaker 2: like Rich Pisanci is about to become the special teams
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Speaker 2: coach for you Clemson Tigers.
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Speaker 3: And you know, maybe some couple of run ins back
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Speaker 3: when he was gallivanting around South Carolina. He started there
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Speaker 3: as a GA at University of South Carolina and then
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Speaker 3: also a volunteer assistant.
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Speaker 2: You don't see many of those.
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Speaker 3: In college sports anymore, but he went through the ranks
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Speaker 3: at South Carolina, finally got the Clemson as a running
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Speaker 3: backs and special teams coach, and made his way into
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Speaker 3: college as an assistant head coach at Old Miss before
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Speaker 3: leaving for the NFL.
34:35
Speaker 4: Drew.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people are wondering, why on earth would
34:37
Speaker 3: you go back to college after being in the NFL
34:40
Speaker 3: for you know, twenty five years or so. And I
34:43
Speaker 3: wonder how much of this was the coaching version of it,
34:47
Speaker 3: because I think there's I think there's actually a lot
34:49
Speaker 3: of reasons why.
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Speaker 2: One.
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Speaker 3: I bet you get that he would be sought after
34:54
Speaker 3: from the college ranks as somebody that can help develop
34:58
Speaker 3: players in the spot that they're in where they are
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Speaker 3: now professionals.
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Speaker 2: They do have money in their pocket.
35:04
Speaker 3: There are expectations that you have to perform on a
35:06
Speaker 3: day in and day out basis, because I think that's
35:08
Speaker 3: one thing that a lot of people have and players
35:10
Speaker 3: have always spoke so highly about Pasacia with is it's
35:13
Speaker 3: the relationships that he still has and Dabbo is one
35:16
Speaker 3: of the guys that wants to keep the relationship business
35:19
Speaker 3: in college sports. So I totally get the pairing, even
35:24
Speaker 3: if he hasn't worked with Dabbo before, and I understand
35:27
Speaker 3: why he would be sought after, And you know, maybe
35:31
Speaker 3: it's maybe it is something more juicy in Green Bay.
35:34
Speaker 3: Maybe it is that he just didn't want to I'm
35:36
Speaker 3: waiting for Billy. He didn't want to coach the Zane
35:39
Speaker 3: Anderson's of the world anymore. Maybe he didn't want to
35:41
Speaker 3: be dealing, uh with the lower guys on the roster,
35:44
Speaker 3: even though I think Evan Williams is on every single
35:46
Speaker 3: special team, like he didn't. He didn't want to be,
35:49
Speaker 3: you know, cooking the meal on their special teams with
35:52
Speaker 3: the groceries that he's being supplied. I also see rich
35:55
Speaker 3: Passacia as sixty five. He's got a long list of
35:58
Speaker 3: time in South Carolina. I don't know when he met
36:01
Speaker 3: his wife. I don't know where she is from that
36:05
Speaker 3: would tell me in his very formative years, they spent
36:08
Speaker 3: a lot of time maybe in South Carolina. What you're
36:10
Speaker 3: saying he wants a soft launch into retirement.
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Speaker 2: There more is that. Well, I think maybe at.
36:14
Speaker 3: Some particular point in time, you've been coaching in college
36:17
Speaker 3: or pro football for almost forty years, and you do
36:20
Speaker 3: at some point take a step back and say, honey,
36:24
Speaker 3: what do you want to do? And she said, you
36:26
Speaker 3: know what I don't want to do up here is
36:29
Speaker 3: living this winter again. You know what I don't want
36:31
Speaker 3: to do is go through another November and December where
36:35
Speaker 3: we're shoveling snow and all my friends that I've grown
36:38
Speaker 3: up with and my relatives and everybody in our retirement
36:43
Speaker 3: years sixty five plus, you know again, not age sham.
36:45
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's the fact. You might be saying,
36:47
Speaker 3: all of my friends are living in South Carolina where
36:49
Speaker 3: it's warm all year long, and maybe.
36:51
Speaker 2: You go take one of those jobs.
36:53
Speaker 3: Maybe you go look and find us in a warmer climate,
36:56
Speaker 3: because this is not necessarily working out for me as
37:00
Speaker 3: much as it is.
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Speaker 2: And maybe that explains a little bit of the timing conversation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to you know, I want to
37:04
Speaker 4: be back with some people I knew, and you know,
37:06
Speaker 4: go to Charleston and Myrtle Beach and have brunch, which,
37:08
Speaker 4: by the way, they're not close to Clemson at all,
37:10
Speaker 4: so that wouldn't be it. But I need something like
37:13
Speaker 4: that tours. He stops you, that's going everybody wants to
37:16
Speaker 4: go to Charleston. Now it's like everybody wants to be
37:18
Speaker 4: to going to Charleston. I'm not going to Charleston, all right,
37:20
Speaker 4: but but it seems like I need something like that
37:23
Speaker 4: because it doesn't First of all, it doesn't seem like
37:25
Speaker 4: he's getting more money, and it seems kind.
37:27
Speaker 2: Of like a lateral move or even a blow move.
37:29
Speaker 4: So I need something like that or else to me,
37:31
Speaker 4: there's something fishing in the waters, or it just doesn't
37:34
Speaker 4: look good, like you know, there's something else there. If
37:36
Speaker 4: there's something else there, like you know, he wants to
37:38
Speaker 4: be back there for familial reasons or just he wanted
37:41
Speaker 4: to coach at that level again before he was done
37:43
Speaker 4: again and he was tired of the grind of the NFL.
37:45
Speaker 4: I need something like that, or else it might stink
37:48
Speaker 4: of something worse. And that's the concern I have it's
37:52
Speaker 4: maybe this is the start of something.
37:54
Speaker 2: And guys who have coached in college, if you're I
37:57
Speaker 2: guess you got to go back into the same state
37:59
Speaker 2: though being a private school. Right, It's like, you know,
38:03
Speaker 2: how guys are abandoning what we think are pretty decent
38:07
Speaker 2: college jobs to go to the NFL or lesser assistant jobs. Right, Uh,
38:12
Speaker 2: will it go back the other way? Because those college
38:14
Speaker 2: jobs have those pensions and benefits and stuff that are
38:17
Speaker 2: pretty sweet, and if you put a certain amount of
38:20
Speaker 2: years in like they want to finish. You know, I'm
38:24
Speaker 2: not saying that's with PISACA, but in just general, yeah,
38:27
Speaker 2: we will guys like start to drift back to college
38:30
Speaker 2: for that because of those you know, the benefits and
38:32
Speaker 2: pension and stuff. Well UW system people who work for.
38:38
Speaker 3: Lifetime Benny's and Drew, I don't know, maybe maybe they're
38:41
Speaker 3: not making these decisions that a lot of us are
38:43
Speaker 3: probably thinking of as well. Like certain guys have been
38:45
Speaker 3: coaching in the NFL for a number of years and
38:47
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they have a lot of kids
38:48
Speaker 3: that are entering college age and they're like, Wow, these uh,
38:51
Speaker 3: that tuition's pretty wild.
38:52
Speaker 2: Maybe if I am working here, I get a little
38:54
Speaker 2: bit of a kick, and like that could be thoughts.
38:56
Speaker 3: Again, I don't necessarily know that that's the case, but
38:58
Speaker 3: he's he's got some famili already with Clemson and and
39:02
Speaker 3: I think there's more to the poaching of somebody that
39:05
Speaker 3: has coached and is coaching, has done it now for
39:09
Speaker 3: a number of years, guys that are getting paid because
39:12
Speaker 3: Dabo did not do this for the longest time, right,
39:14
Speaker 3: Like and in the transfer portal, they just walked into
39:18
Speaker 3: the portal. They're doing what Marquette is most likely going
39:21
Speaker 3: to do at the end of the year, where for
39:23
Speaker 3: the first time they jumped in and grabbed some players
39:26
Speaker 3: that were unfamiliar to their program and trying to bring
39:28
Speaker 3: them into their culture.
39:29
Speaker 2: So that could be some of the setting. But if
39:32
Speaker 2: you're trying to I do also like it.
39:34
Speaker 3: From Dabo's perspective of people, like, hey, he's not to
39:36
Speaker 3: get younger, a little more hip, more exciting, let's go
39:39
Speaker 3: get it, hold sixty five year old special things.
39:43
Speaker 2: But still can't shake the fielding. That might be a
39:46
Speaker 2: NFL experience. I was going to say, the stories that
39:48
Speaker 2: he can tell big time those kids about you know,
39:51
Speaker 2: his time he was a head coach in the NFL. Sure, well,
39:53
Speaker 2: and I to be able to tell people, hey, this
39:55
Speaker 2: is what happened, this is how this guy did it.
39:57
Speaker 2: That's going to be invaluable for sure. It could be
39:59
Speaker 2: as Simp was, Uh, you know, my grandkids live in
40:02
Speaker 2: the South, and I want to see him more.
40:03
Speaker 4: It could be right, and I'm looking for something like that.
40:06
Speaker 4: That's otherwise I'm going to those other dark doors. Yeah,
40:09
Speaker 4: being like, Okay, he didn't want you do think that
40:12
Speaker 4: it's some I think he's maybe also I think he's
40:15
Speaker 4: tired of getting blamed for everything and he's like, I'm
40:17
Speaker 4: not letting this out.
40:17
Speaker 2: I don't think he gives it a good He's like,
40:21
Speaker 2: I don't think he gives a rat I saw that,
40:23
Speaker 2: I saw it. Maybe not, but I think there might
40:26
Speaker 2: be something there that I don't think okay, because because like,
40:29
Speaker 2: well what is you know, we don't know, But what
40:32
Speaker 2: does Lafleur worry? Like what fans think? I don't think
40:35
Speaker 2: you can in that.
40:36
Speaker 3: Job you to The only reason the only reason I
40:39
Speaker 3: pushed back on that one a little bit is because
40:42
Speaker 3: I did. And there are a lot of people that
40:44
Speaker 3: were wondering Drew, like, hey, where did the where did
40:46
Speaker 3: the commands come from the coach? Maybe because more fans
40:49
Speaker 3: are saying, hey, how about you stop worrying about pumping
40:51
Speaker 3: up the crowd. But like, I don't think he's making
40:53
Speaker 3: any decisions based off what fans want to think for sure,
40:56
Speaker 3: and if there's more internal pressure than we were understanding,
40:59
Speaker 3: or more blame going towards Basacia, but then like there
41:03
Speaker 3: wasn't the fan Maybe they were going.
41:05
Speaker 2: To keep him and they were allowing him and they
41:07
Speaker 2: were blindsided apparently when he left. That's so, so that's
41:11
Speaker 2: where I did. I don't see fans wanted him gone. Yeah,
41:14
Speaker 2: I even said, yeah, well look at that units underperformed.
41:17
Speaker 2: A lot of fans want him gone because of the unit. Right,
41:19
Speaker 2: could it be?
41:20
Speaker 4: Uh?
41:20
Speaker 2: Could it?
41:21
Speaker 3: Everyone's favorite thought is that, uh, you know, a certain
41:24
Speaker 3: certain policy is not making the policies in Green Bay.
41:27
Speaker 3: I'm putting my finger right here on this scale, and
41:30
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna do something that I need us
41:32
Speaker 3: to do, and then we need to hold some people accountable.
41:35
Speaker 2: And didn't it take too long the ability? If that
41:36
Speaker 2: was the case, that that maybe I don't see anybody inbody.
41:42
Speaker 4: I think he's like, I'm not gonna I'm I'm not
41:43
Speaker 4: gonna let my reputation start to slide like this from
41:46
Speaker 4: everyone thinking I'm a bad coach because they won't give
41:48
Speaker 4: me the right players and because my guys are dropping
41:50
Speaker 4: on side kicks.
41:50
Speaker 2: The thing is, well, uh, flour dropped a letter grade
41:53
Speaker 2: in those player Union rankings, but that was taken like
41:56
Speaker 2: at the Denver game before they lost the last five
41:58
Speaker 2: and for the pressure amped up of the season. Now
42:01
Speaker 2: was he feeling pressure all year? Guys like Schneidman were
42:04
Speaker 2: saying he was coaching for his job. That had him
42:06
Speaker 2: to ratchet the pressure up and strike out and lash
42:09
Speaker 2: out at players and staff and in the locker room
42:12
Speaker 2: more than he normally has. Maybe that was where the
42:14
Speaker 2: grade drop came from. But that's the floor. But I
42:17
Speaker 2: don't think I think Basachi was kind of above that.
42:19
Speaker 2: He kind of floated above that, hung out in that
42:21
Speaker 2: B B plus A minus AIA.
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Speaker 3: I guess I do believe there's probably a lot more
42:26
Speaker 3: family part of this than anything, but that doesn't sell.
42:29
Speaker 3: And I like that Arman is the drama one on
42:31
Speaker 3: the show. I like that you're the one asking for
42:34
Speaker 3: more of the the news stand, walking up and grabbing
42:39
Speaker 3: soap opera digest and you want some more dirt here.
42:41
Speaker 3: I don't know that there's a lot, but maybe there is,
42:43
Speaker 3: and maybe we're just missing it because I'm not always
42:45
Speaker 3: that guy. But it's because I truly had that instinct
42:48
Speaker 3: in this case that there might be something more.
42:50
Speaker 2: You know that I think. I think kids and grandkids
42:53
Speaker 2: make a lot of decisions and they might be a
42:55
Speaker 2: little close. Very true, but sometimes that's a crutch too.
42:58
Speaker 2: Mike Hampton signed with the Rockies once he said, I
43:01
Speaker 2: like the schools in Denver. Yeah, right. For two hundred million,
43:03
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