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Ian Furness 9/29 H1: The Mariners did Jerry dirty. And we Mollywhop on a Tuesday! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 2: See you bye. Frostbrood Coors Light, cold as the Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball playoffs underway. Phillies and Braves playing right now,
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  Speaker 2: tied at one. They're in the bottom of the third inning.
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  Speaker 2: We've got White Sox Astros later. That would have been
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  Speaker 2: Seattle's game, by the way. Two o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been nice. Well, just saying.
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  Speaker 2: Not for this particular show.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, but it would have been nice to have
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  Speaker 3: him having a game to play. I would have cared.
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  Speaker 4: It could have been a midnight.
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  Speaker 2: A year ago, we were talking about the bye. This
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  Speaker 2: was a bye week. This was a bye for us
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  Speaker 2: here in Seattle. Red Sox-Yankees at five. Cubs-Padres late game
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  Speaker 2: at seven. Yankees will be without Aaron Judge for their
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  Speaker 2: series with Boston, not on the wild card series roster.
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  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto, as you guys all know, spoke with the
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  Speaker 2: media yesterday, so they're going to be looking outside the
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  Speaker 2: organization for the team's next manager. More on that coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Week three of the NFL's in the books. Case Keenum.
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  Speaker 2: We all had that on our bingo card. Led the
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  Speaker 2: Bears over the Eagles 27-7 on Monday Night Football. And
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  Speaker 2: the Protect College Sports Act took a major step forward.
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  Speaker 2: The U.S. Senate voted 77-22 to pass it. Now moves
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  Speaker 2: on to the House of Representatives, although I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they'll get that voted on until after midterm elections in November.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go. Which is Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of a big deal. Against Calgary. So
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  Speaker 2: it's after the Seahawks games. What I would do is
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  Speaker 2: I would go I'd head up to like the Queen
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  Speaker 2: Anne Beer Hall, hang out, watch the Seahawks, or at
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  Speaker 2: least the second half of the Seahawks. And then that's over.
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  Speaker 2: You got about an hour, hour and a half to
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  Speaker 2: kill and get up to the Climate Pledge Arena. Away
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  Speaker 2: we go.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You've got lots of options too, because you could also
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  Speaker 6: do Tom's Watch Bar.
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  Speaker 2: No, don't do that.
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  Speaker 5: No, don't.
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  Speaker 2: No. Queen Anne Beer Hall.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They're a friend of this show.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was just trying to also be cracking friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. If you go to Tom's, you may
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  Speaker 2: run into Benton. And I don't know if you want
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  Speaker 2: to do that. Oh, that's true. You don't want to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 3: Queen Anne Beer Hall it is.
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  Speaker 5: Or Al.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do you really want to run into those guys?
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  Speaker 3: Then Watch Bar it after the game.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys are there after the game.
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  Speaker 3: Then you can harass him.
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  Speaker 2: You hear Mike eating on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 2: No, you don't. I just say that.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, really?
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  Speaker 2: No, he's driving around right now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't eat on the air. What is he saying?
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  Speaker 3: Or he's going, oh, mayor.
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  Speaker 2: I joke about Queen Anne Beer Hall and going nowhere
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  Speaker 2: else only because we do stuff. This show does stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I do stuff with them. But you know what's kind
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  Speaker 2: of fun, just on a quick side note, is seeing
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  Speaker 2: their lower Queen Anne starting to come alive again.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple of new spots that have opened up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Queen Anne Beer Hall was the first.
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  Speaker 2: They had the foresight to, and they somehow struck, they
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  Speaker 2: bought it right during the COVID, during the pandemic from
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  Speaker 2: the old owners, did Gary and Juice there. But you're
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  Speaker 2: starting to see some things come alive up there on
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  Speaker 2: Lower Queen Anne. And, you know, when we get that
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  Speaker 2: next franchise that will play another 41 home games a year,
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  Speaker 2: Lower Queen Anne, as someone who grew up in Queen
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  Speaker 2: Anne and Magnolia, I'm really excited to see that area
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  Speaker 2: get revitalized, and I hope it happens. But this Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: away we go. So all you have to do, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, for the Kraken Ticket Tuesday, when you hear
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  Speaker 2: the sounder play, it's very obvious what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and it's not us saying it's Kraken Ticket Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, do this. This is not it. Can you do
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  Speaker 2: a dry run real quick?
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  Speaker 3: Let me find it.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on.
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  Speaker 2: I want to do a dry run. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: The problem is that everybody puts it different colors, so
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  Speaker 6: now I've got to look at what's.
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  Speaker 2: during the day today. Chuck and Greg have already done it,
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  Speaker 2: and Greg, and we'll do it later on as well.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I even have it somewhere. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'll have it in time to play it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to play it sometime this hour. Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have it then.
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  Speaker 2: You have 53 minutes to find it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You should be able to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll find it by then.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And we will do a dry run.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we will.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay. Do you have it?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Dry run?
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  Speaker 2: That's not it. This is just a rehearsal, people.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. But when you hear that every hour,
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  Speaker 2: Greg and I will be doing our shows out there
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, getting you ready
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  Speaker 2: for the next game against the Los Angeles Chargers, the
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  Speaker 2: winless Chargers. That's coming up on Sunday as well. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll kind of jump back into Seahawks tomorrow. Not a
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  Speaker 2: ton to get to with them today as well. Although
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  Speaker 2: watching the game last night, Seattle's got both those teams
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  Speaker 2: on their schedule. Philadelphia does not look good.
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  Speaker 3: They did not look good.
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  Speaker 6: So we were talking about this last night, but I
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  Speaker 6: feel like every team so far is kind of having that.
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  Speaker 2: Having that game?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, having that game where it's like, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Except for the 49ers.
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  Speaker 3: Except for the 49ers and, I guess, the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Which is weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But, yeah, I think you're right. I think you
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  Speaker 2: kind of chalked that up. Now there's four unbeaten teams
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  Speaker 2: left after last night. But everyone does seem to have
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  Speaker 2: that game in their back pocket. So Seattle had theirs.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully that's the one that they have, and it's last
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  Speaker 2: week in the nation's capital. We'll mollywop with the boys
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  Speaker 2: coming up in a minute. Greg and I brought this up,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of stumbled across it. It's kind of an
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people want to poto out. I said yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: I think Ashley agreed. It's kind of, we're not really sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you were to ask, well, I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 2: you guys. It's not going to happen. So it's somewhat moot,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm just going to throw it out there. Like
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  Speaker 2: the change I'd want to see is ownership.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: But more so, like, I want that more so than
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  Speaker 2: to pull it out. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Because then you know you're going to get a difference.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to get a difference in spending.
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  Speaker 2: And we were so stressed here. And I think there's
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  Speaker 2: still some consternation about the new Seahawks owners.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's fear of the unknown.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can understand. I'm not, yeah. I think we've
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  Speaker 3: been burned.
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  Speaker 2: But there's, and it's just kind of, it's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the Allen family, you knew what you're going to get.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to spend the money necessary. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: hire the right people. And if they don't hire the
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  Speaker 2: right person the first time, they'll fire them and hire
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  Speaker 2: them the next time.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And away you go. And they're going to invest in
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  Speaker 2: the product. This ownership group with the Mariners, I felt
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  Speaker 2: like yesterday was just Bush League, how they handled everything.
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  Speaker 2: I just, it was, and I'm not putting that on
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  Speaker 2: Stanton necessarily, but that's, if that's the, that's the world
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  Speaker 2: you live in where you're going to have the most
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  Speaker 2: important media and availability of the year, the calendar year.
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  Speaker 2: I'd argue it's the most important one in the last, well,
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  Speaker 2: since they hired Dan Wilson. And you're going to have
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  Speaker 2: it with people sitting on tables, Jerry backed up against
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  Speaker 2: a wall, sweating like he's Nixon in Watergate, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the lights crammed in there and everyone pushing and
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  Speaker 2: shoving and shouting out questions. And, you know, like, as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to like a real news conference where you have
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  Speaker 2: a wireless microphone, Hand around who's next, okay? So then it's–
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  Speaker 2: you don't get people accusing other people of, oh, there's
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  Speaker 2: too much. You're doing too many things. Too many asking
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  Speaker 2: too many– whatever. Something about it was just minor league
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  Speaker 2: and kind of insulting. But that comes from ownership because–
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  Speaker 2: ownership on the baseball side. Listen, we know what they
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  Speaker 2: do on the business side. They do a tremendous job.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't, I mean, the ballpark experience, you could not
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  Speaker 2: have a better ballpark experience in baseball. You cannot. Like
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  Speaker 2: every time I go, I just like, this is cool.
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  Speaker 2: I'll walk around, take a walk, have something to eat,
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  Speaker 2: have a pop, enjoy myself. Just the vibe. You could,
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  Speaker 2: they do, they do a great job with that. The
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  Speaker 2: baseball side. No, no, And, yeah, we can blame Jerry
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  Speaker 2: all we want. I just always wonder how much his
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  Speaker 2: hands are tied. And, you know, I saw what they
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  Speaker 2: did yesterday. Like, that would just never– the Seahawks would never, ever,
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  Speaker 2: ever have a news conference like that. The Kraken, in
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  Speaker 2: their infancy, they don't do that. Like, the Huskies don't do– well,
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  Speaker 2: the Huskies do kind of cram guys up against the wall.
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  Speaker 2: I see DeMond looking like he's under siege sometimes. But
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  Speaker 2: you get my point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I absolutely do.
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  Speaker 2: And I just– like, if Jed's doing a big– if
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  Speaker 2: Jed Fish is doing a big news conference, he's doing
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  Speaker 2: it in an interview room.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, correct. Set up where he, and here's the thing
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  Speaker 6: is that a lot of people are, are annoyed or
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  Speaker 6: said that, you know, well, it was, you know, it's,
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  Speaker 6: it's to make the media uncomfortable or to, you know,
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  Speaker 6: cause it's, they don't really care about the fans.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was unfair to Jerry. Very uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley, I was with our, our group for, for cracking
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  Speaker 2: TV last night. Um, we were going through looking at
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  Speaker 2: our new studio and a lot of those folks that
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: work behind the scenes for years worked at root. And
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: there was one of the new, we had, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a zillion monitors in there and one of them,
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  Speaker 2: was one of the news stations and they are showing
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  Speaker 2: the news conference and these guys and ladies were saying,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell? Like, like they have that interview room.
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  Speaker 2: What are they doing? And they kind of all had
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  Speaker 2: the same feeling. It's a makes everyone's job harder.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: But B unfair to your, you're putting your V first
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  Speaker 2: of all, it's not your, I don't care what John
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  Speaker 2: Stanton does with a rights holder.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. Or a very safe Haven with one
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  Speaker 2: newspaper writer. You don't put John Stanton in front of everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You hide him behind closed doors, and then you put
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  Speaker 2: Jerry out there to take all the fire, and rightfully so,
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  Speaker 2: he's the guy. But you put him in that setting.
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  Speaker 2: It was just, everything about it was weak.
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  Speaker 6: At least give him the space to have his own
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  Speaker 6: area where he's not feeling like everybody's in, because they
• 9:56
  Speaker 6: have to be in on.
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  Speaker 3: Him so they can hear what he's saying and they
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  Speaker 3: can ask their questions. I mean, that would stress me out.
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  Speaker 2: In some ways, it just illustrated the year that was.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 3: That's sad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like anything of it. You know who else didn't?
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  Speaker 3: The boys.
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  Speaker 2: They're next.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, I didn't think we'd be here
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  Speaker 2: and having our final Molly Watt Monday on a Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: to wrap up the season as the playoffs were beginning
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  Speaker 2: elsewhere in baseball. But here we are. That's exactly what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly where we are. We are doing a Molly
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  Speaker 2: final time that is scheduled this season. I say that
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: because the boys are on such a massive retainer financially
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  Speaker 2: that uh, that they're, they're always, that they're always on standby, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and always just in case, because maybe we'll see a, uh,
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  Speaker 2: a manager get hired or whatever it might be. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Could not thank you guys enough for all your help
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  Speaker 2: this year. All right, boys. We didn't do it yesterday
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  Speaker 2: because Jerry was speaking under the glaring lights of a
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: of an interrogation. Uh, but, uh, we, we will go
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: around the horn as always got a lot of topics
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  Speaker 2: to discuss, but, uh, opening comments, I'm going to switch
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  Speaker 2: it up today. Chris, you're going first fire away.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm going first, by the way, uh, I'm,
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  Speaker 4: I'm disappointed if you didn't say my zoom name.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I will it's Mariner closet organizer 69.
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  Speaker 4: What an impressive closet I built there. You know, you like,
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  Speaker 4: you take a look at the fact that I was
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: able to put together a a closet that would hold
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: a press conference for a major league baseball team is
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: pretty damn impressive. Um, Lincoln bio, um, boy.
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  Speaker 2: California closets are one of those real professional ones when
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  Speaker 2: you can get Mariner closet organizer 69 to come to
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  Speaker 2: your house and build the same thing with a little
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  Speaker 2: backdrop and lights and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: When, when a certain member of the media sent me
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  Speaker 4: a full zoom around of the, uh, press conference, I
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  Speaker 4: was very impressed with my work. Um, Boy, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's just I'm so sad that we're not talking about
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  Speaker 4: a Mariner game today. In fact, I would be kind
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  Speaker 4: of sad that they were playing today because I would
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: want them to be one of the top two seeds, right?
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  Speaker 4: The automatic advance to it. But I sure would have
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  Speaker 4: loved to have seen this team play in the playoffs.
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: And yet there's part of me that I know I'm
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: going to come across as the big negative Nelly that
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  Speaker 4: is so glad the season is over because it just
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  Speaker 4: wasn't a fun year, man. It just wasn't fun to
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: watch this baseball team Nathan brought it up over and
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: over again because he just can't help repeating himself and
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: also because he's really smart. Just the unathleticism that we
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: saw from this baseball team in 2026 and the lack
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  Speaker 4: of fundamentals, the lack of excitement. It just was such
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: a bummer to watch these guys for 162 games, and
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: that should never be the case. You should never hate
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: watching your favorite baseball team. You should never hate watching
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: your favorite sport. But I got so down on this team,
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: in part because I was so high to begin the
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: year and my silly little demands, that it just became
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: painful and heartbreaking to watch this baseball team. Now, that
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean there weren't good things. Randy Orozarena was an
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: absolute treat to watch this year. Seeing some of these
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: young guys come up and do what they did was
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: a treat to watch as well. But it was... It
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: really was... The dessert after a terrible, terrible meal. Just
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: an unbridled lack of joy to watch this team. The
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: joyless suck factory one more time. I hope 2027 is better.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I hope 2027 even exists. But good riddance to 2026, man.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Joyless suck factory.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: That might be the perfect. That's the, that's the, you know,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: it's not refuse to lose. It's not, no, no. Nope.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Jake, get my t-shirt ready.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Joyless suck factory. Nathan.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: There's been one thing we've been doing this show for
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: five years and, and my gosh, so many things to, I.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Think six years, right? Well, we started during COVID.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: We've been, Yeah, I'm not sure anymore.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: 2021 is when we really started.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, six years.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: My gosh, thanks to Chris and Ian and all of
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: the producers, people at KJR, the people who listen, Simply Seattle,
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: et cetera. That is a long time. We've been doing
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: it for six years. What's the one thing that we
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: have all universally praised the Mariners without exception for? There's
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: one thing, and it's not pitching development. And it's this
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: organization's ability to throw a ceremony, put on a show.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: They are very, very good at it. And as I've
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: kind of let the season end and I didn't really
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: want to like try to react in the moment over
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: the last 48 hours because everything that's happened has been
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: kind of scripted. We kind of knew what was going
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: to happen to a certain extent over the last 48
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: hours with Dan Wilson stepping away. And then the press
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: conference and they had the temerity to actually call a
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: press conference. It's a shame they don't have a really
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: nice media center to have press conferences in. But Chris
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: did a great job with that closet. Good job there.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: Watching it all play out. That was the thing that
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: I was struck by. you know, letting Dan Wilson go
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: out there or making, letting, it was some combination of
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: victory lap and humiliation ritual where he went out there
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: to talk about, and I felt terrible for him, where
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: he was crying through that press conference and talking. It's
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: clear this man took his job very seriously and knew
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: that he had failed and it was a hard thing
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: for him to do. Jerry DePoto going out there in
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: funeral black, reading off the bullet notes of accountability that
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: ChatGPT gave him that he asked about before the press
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: conference and Cracking John Stanton out of cryo freeze to
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: do his big well-lit one-on-one prescripted interview with a media personality.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: All of that ceremony. That's what all of this last
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: 48 hours has been. The Mariners have known for weeks
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: now that their season was a failure and they've had
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: time to prepare a ceremony and nobody does a ceremony
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: like the Seattle Mariners. And at the end of all
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: of it, all I can think about is not a
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: single damn thing is going to change. Again, all of
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: the same people that make all the decisions are still here.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: They think that they can do exactly the same things
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: that they've always done. The ownership is going to continue
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: to do things exactly the same way. They're not talking
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: about changing processes. They're not really talking about changing rosters.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: They're not talking about changing anything about how they do
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: business because they don't think they're doing anything wrong. Still,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: after all of that ceremony, And I'm going to be
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: honest with you guys. I don't know. I don't know
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: if I can keep doing this with these guys. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: just don't. I just don't know. Headed into 2027 if
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I can do it. I'm so tired of feeling so
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: disrespected by everything these people do. And you know what's
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: part of that? Let's go back to that closet. The
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: media is a conduit to the fan base. And when
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: you disrespect that team, and the only, I haven't heard
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: any good reason. I've asked, is there a good reason
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: to shoehorn everybody into that tiny little closet space to
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: do that when they have that giant, I saw the
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: King Griffey Jr.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: I was at that press conference in that beautiful, nice
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: space in that press conference. The only reason to do
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: that is because you don't like the media because you're
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: affronted by the media. And because by extension, you're affronted
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: by the role they play, which is to report the
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: things that you do and say, to your fan base,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: the people that pay for everything that you do. So
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: that's an intentional choice to do that. Does that sound
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: like a group or an organization that feels genuinely bad?
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Does that sound, or are they just going to go
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: through the motions? Are they just going to go through
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: the ceremony of genuflecting some sort of apology? John Sands
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: is going to say, I'm embarrassed. And Jerry DePoto is
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: going to talk about accountability. And Justin Hollander is going
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: to talk about accountability. There's no accountability.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Who hired Dan Wilson?
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Does anybody know?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: We still don't.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: We still don't have any idea.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Nobody knows. Justin Hollander said today that he's going to
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: be doing his first managerial search. So that means he
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: didn't have anything to do with hiring Dan Wilson. So
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: we still don't know what's going on there. Nobody has
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: changed anything. And it just feels, I don't want to
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: take up too much time here.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I'm so defeated by this.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: It's so, so draining to have to go through this
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: for another offseason.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: The thing that jumps out, guys, is that– because, Nathan,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: as you're talking about that, and I think you always
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: want that hope leading into the next year, right? Like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: if you don't make the postseason, if you don't get
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to accomplish what you want to accomplish, what have you,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you want to have that. And it's funny because I think–
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pivot back to what you were saying
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: in a second, but this just came to my mind.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going to just throw it out there. Chris, I'll
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I'll start with you.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: They didn't make the post season, which if they did,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that would have been the seventh time in franchise history
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: over 50 years, which in our world would seem like, Hey,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty good thing. Is it safe to say
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that even if they had snuck in this season, unless
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: they won it all would have still been a failure.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, just going back to what I
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: talked about, for me anyway, yeah, absolutely. Sneaking into the
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: postseason at 82-80 or 84-78 or something like that would
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: have felt terrible. Anything but getting to the World Series
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: was going to feel like not good enough to me.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: And it's not based on the fact that I thought
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: the roster was so good. It's based on the fact
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: that you told me the roster is so good by
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: bringing back said roster. After being seven or eight outs,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: it seems like no one can get that number right,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: by the way. It changes every time. Being very close
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: to getting to the World Series. And bringing back that
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: same team, making just changes on the margins, Brendan Donovan
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: for Jorge Polanco, pretty much the only major change that
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: you bring there. You told me that anything but getting
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: to the World Series was going to be disappointing. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: real quick, just on what Nathan was saying, the thing
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: about what the Mariners did is they know you're going
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: to forget about this stuff. They know that you're going
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to not care about it in November and December so
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: they can get away with it. Don't let them get
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: away with it. Don't let the Seattle Mariners get away
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: with it, man. Tell them how you feel. Tell them
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: that this is not good enough. Tell them that holding
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: a press conference inside of a basically closet that I
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: designed very well is not good enough. Tell the Seattle
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Mariners that it's not good enough because this isn't good enough.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: But yeah, to answer your question, yeah, anything but getting
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: deep into this postseason is Was going to be significantly
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: disappointing for me and a lot of fans that I've
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: talked to Nathan.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they couldn't win the worst division in the history
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: of Major League Baseball coming into a season where they
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: were supposed to be the best team or the second
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: best team in the American League. I think if they
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: were in the playoffs, I talked about like basically being
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: full sicko mode, all September word. The only thing I
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: wanted to see if they're going to get in the
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: playoffs was do it in the most disgusting way possible.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: They couldn't do it. I'd have still been every single
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: thing that I just said, I would 100% say if
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: they had made the playoffs, because it would all still 100%
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: be accurate this season. The process of this season was
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: a miserable failure and the outcome reflects that process that
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: they've gone through all year long. And just one last
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: thing on that press conference is, Man, I saw some
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: people pushing back on Softie for asking some questions down
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: there really quick. Dude, press conferences are not liturgy. They
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: are not sacred rituals. They are ideally places where people
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: in power stand accountable to a curious and skeptical media
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: apparatus to deliver information to their fans. And it is
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: ridiculous that Dave is... Okay, Softie's many things, and a
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: lot of them I probably don't agree with him on.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: He is him because he is a passionate fan. He
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: cares about his teams more than anybody in the world.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: And when they win, he's the happiest man alive. And
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: when they lose, he's as upset as anybody else. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: I will venture to say, I bet he was more
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: upset about the Mariners season. than anybody else at that
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: press conference yesterday in any role because he cares. And
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: that's what fans deserve to have represented when they're doing
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. So good for him for going
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: down there and asking some tough questions.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that. Yeah, I agree with you. Listen,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, me defending and sticking up for Bigfell in
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the afternoon is– painful experience, but I'm going to do
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: it anyway. I'm not happy about it either. None of
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: us are. No, none of us are. No, I, that
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: was a funny thing. There's a pushback there. Someone who
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: you used to work with or you hired, I think Nathan,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, and she's pushing back and I'm like, well,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: feel free to ask the same questions.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: And, and I would also like the condescending tone, which
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: kind of feels like that just comes out of that
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: building sometimes towards him and others that aren't part of
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the inner circle that aren't there every day. You know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the three or four people that are there every day
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: at home games and stuff like that. I mean, Jess
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: goes down, Benton goes down here and there for us.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: You know, none of us are beat writers, so to speak.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: But the condescending tone that she had and others had,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, first of all, there's no
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: bigger name in Seattle sports media than him. There's nobody
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that has more equity than him. There's nobody that should
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: be asking the questions more than softy.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: We were hearing the air.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Like, right. Like, like seriously.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Like this, you're not talking about some intern that showed up.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Like I've gone to Seahawk press conferences, you know, when
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I was there every day and there'll be a news
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: reporter coming in from like one of the news stations,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: it's asking questions after a big thing happens. And, I'm like, hey,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: this isn't your space. You can sit this one out.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: That's not the case with him. He's Seattle's sportsman. When
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Graz and Gas stepped aside, he's got the title. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I think if you're a Seattle sports fan, a Mariners fan, you,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: without going full Jack Nicholson, you want him there. You
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: want him asking those questions because no one else is.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: No one else is. All right. I want to– we've
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: only got a couple minutes here left in this segment,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: but just to kind of circle back.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: 76-86.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Sheehan said two weeks ago, most disappointing season in the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: century since 2000 for a Major League Baseball team. Is
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: this the most disappointing season ever for the Mariners, Chris?
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, pretty easily. And again, it starts with the expectations,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: but just like looking at an MVP runner-up, who was
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: one of the worst hitters in baseball for the overwhelming
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: majority of the year. Looking at a guy who had
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: three top 10 MVP finishes in his first four years
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: be just an average dude who looked like he regressed
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: more than he improved. Looking at this bullpen that I
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: think we all had high hopes for and seeing it
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: be slightly below average. Looking at this starting rotation that
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: we all had high hopes for be slightly above average.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: And then... when you look at not just the division,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: but the American League on the whole. Guys, the Cleveland
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Guardians won 85 games, and they are the two seed
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: in the American League. That's beyond pathetic. If you would
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: have told me the Mariners were only going to win
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: 85 games this year, I would have been disappointed. To
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: think that they just had to be a slightly above
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: average team and get in this thing and see what
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: happens and to not do it? Oh, this is easily
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: the most disappointing team, not just in Mariner history, in
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: all of my life. This is the most disappointing Seattle
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: sports team. And that's saying something, man, because I have
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: been disappointed for most of my grumble, grumble years. But this,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: this is the absolute worst. This is the worst, man.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: No doubt about it. Most disappointing year.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Nathan, you want to finish it off here?
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if there's any way that you can.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: I was kind of on the fence because I was
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: never as high on this team coming into the season
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: as I feel like some other people were. But the
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: way that the season played out and we talked about
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: it going down the stretch and I just said it,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: I think like three minutes ago. They couldn't win the
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: worst division in the history of the sport. The sport
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: is 150 years old. The Houston Astros won the pennant
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: at 81 and 81. You let the Houston Astros, who
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I think you were 13 and three against or something
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: like that this year, win the division.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Your most hated.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Rival had their worst year in like 13 years and
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: you still couldn't do it. It's the most unforgivable thing. shameful,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: pathetic season by a Seattle sports team that I can remember, man.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: It's just, they have let, they have squandered now twice
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: in the last five years. They have sat on the
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: precipice of shooting off into a space that they have
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: never been before. As far as success is concerned after
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: 2022 and 2025 and through their hubris, their lethargy, their
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: mediocrity and their lack of ambition, they have completely fallen
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: on their face both times. And this time stings a
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: lot worse in 2023. All right.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: We'll come back. Final segment. Bring up a topic we
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: talked about earlier. Is the issue ownership or is the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: issue the baseball operations side? We'll ask the boys that
• 28:18
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• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Fire that in there. Big thanks to the crew over
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: there at Simply Seattle for all the support all these
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: years that we've done this. They've been there with us
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: since the start. They do a lot of stuff on
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Softie's show as well. We could not thank that local
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: company enough for what they do for us, this show.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Just real fast, because I want to wrap up with marriage.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Real fast. We've got the Braves and the Phillies on
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: right now, the first playoff game being played.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Same.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: There are thousands of empty seats. Now my initial reaction
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: always is Atlanta is a crappy sports town. And it is,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: it's like the most overrated sports city in America. Screw
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: you NHL for even mentioning the name out loud for
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: further expansion for a third time. But, but Chris, just
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: like for me and Nathan jumping real quick afterwards, especially
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: when you have kids like baseball's insistence on playing day
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: games and not overlapping and stuff, which the NBA does,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the NHL does. In the playoffs, it's just mind-boggling to me, Chris.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: And what this also points to you is that, boy, oh, boy,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: is attendance not the main revenue thing for baseball anymore.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: In fact, it's not even close. Because if it was,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't be playing this game at this time on
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: this day, like on a Tuesday. Like, if you're going
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: to play the afternoon games, it makes sense Saturday and Sunday,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: but on on a Tuesday this just goes to show
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: you that attendance is not the driver but it's very
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I feel bad because you know I totally agree Atlanta
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: is a super overrated sports town and bring back the
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: thrashers come on Ian stop it bring them back stop
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: it no definitely not um it's, it's sad for those
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: kids because those are the people that we want watching
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: these games. They're the people that we want growing with
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: the sport, a game at 11 AM Pacific time and
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: 2 PM in Atlanta. It's, it's tough to argue that
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: that's great for the local and the young interest in
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I just, yeah. Nathan, go ahead real quick.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's just a real bummer. It's just, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: and you, you both hit it on the head. What's
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: going on here is that it's not, What works best
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: for fans? How do we get the most people interested
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: and engaged in this? It's just like so many other
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: things that are going on in our life. There was
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: one dude that wrote a really big fat check from
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: what would be NBC in this case or TBS or
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: whoever to MLB and they cashed it. And because of that,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: that's why we have to deal with this. And it's
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: just up to us to figure out how to deal
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: with this very suboptimal arrangement.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It sucks. I was just thinking, can you imagine the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Sixers and the Knicks playing at 11 o'clock in the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: morning in an NBA playoff game or the Avalanche and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Dallas Stars playing at noon on a Tuesday? It just
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: would never happen. those two leagues happen to be smarter
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: than baseball, and we'll find out how dumb baseball is
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: here in the next few months when we have a lockout. Okay,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I brought this up earlier. Nathan, I'll start with you.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Bigger issue for this team moving forward, is it the
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: ownership group and how they operate, or is it Jerry
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and Justin? I think that the.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Biggest issue here is the ownership situation, and if I
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: had to weigh it, I would say something like 65
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: to 35 or 70-30 or something like that. And I think,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and to be perfectly frank, I think part of that
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: is borne out by the fact that ownership continues to
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: allow Jerry and Justin to have their jobs because they're
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: just satisfied and content with the status quo. And because
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: the bar is so low in this organization's history, and
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: so many of these guys have had their tendrils in
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: this organization for so long, whether they were technically in
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: the ownership group or they were managing partners or whatever
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: it is, I don't know what designations they have. They've
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: all been around here for so long, so they know
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: how low the standards are. And they can look at
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: the last five years and know that they're making grip
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: loads of money and say, well, it's slightly better than
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: it usually has been. We've made the playoffs 40% of
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: the time in a league where 40% of the teams
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: make the playoffs.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: You guys should all love us. This is perfect.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: And I think that's the main issue. I think that
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: the ownership, I think Mike Verrill's column in the Seattle
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Times today was really spot on. It's like we've said,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: they would like to win. They really would like to win.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: John Stanton would really like to win. But they're not
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: obsessed with it. they're not willing to do the things
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: that are necessary to make winning the fundamental priority.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Of this organization.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: And they've said that out loud and shown it with
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: their actions over and over again. So I think given
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: that circumstance, you have to be a really good front
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: office in order to build a world series winner here.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: And then that's when I would trickle down and say,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: I just, I don't think that the Mariners front office
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: is bad. I just don't think that it's good enough
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: to deal with this.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Chris.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Ian, do you watch Shorzy?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Uh, I've watched a few episodes.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: With my buddy, Terry Ryan in it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: There's a quote where it's a kind of a running
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: theme where Shorzy and those who haven't watched it, it's terrific.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Check it out. Hulu, whatever. Um, they say that the
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: guy loves to win, but Shorzy kept saying, but he
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: doesn't hate to lose. And that's the thing with the
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Seattle Mariner ownership group is that I know that they
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: would love to win, but they don't hate to lose.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: And as long as that's the case, there are going
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: to be issues. As for a number on blame between
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: them two, I'd go somewhere between 53% and 55%. Do
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: you see what I did there?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: God bless you.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: It wasn't me this time.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Like, seriously?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. They're going to be looking for a new manager. Chris,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: what are they looking for? What do you think they
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: should be looking for? I'll tell you what they could
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: be looking for. And I'll just promote this, by the way.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I did a video for my wine enthusiasts on four
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: guys that I would love to hire and two guys
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: that I would just stay away from. I think the
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: most important thing, a lot of people keep talking about that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: They want a hard ass that they want somebody who's
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: going to be pissing vinegar. I think the most important
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: thing is getting that team, that fun team that looked
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: like they were having fun in 2025, getting that version,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: keeping the clubhouse in line, of course, but something that
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: is going to bring out the joy of, in these guys,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: someone who has experience. There's such an obvious, I'll just
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: say right now, hire Tori Lovato. Tori Lovato is a
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: perfect candidate for this. He makes so much sense because
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: he's someone who's handled clubhouse as well. He's had success.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: He's dealt with less than spectacular Arizona budgets and well,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and still been able to produce at the highest level.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: That's the type of guy they should be going after.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: There's going to be competition for him too, but that's
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: the type of guy, someone who's going to bring out
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: keep the people in line, avoid these silly little mistakes,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: but you want that guy who's going to bring the
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: joy into this clubhouse again.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Nathan, let me get you just a final word from you.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Like you said, you're kind of exhausted by the team.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: They've kind of sucked the life out of you. I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: think a lot of Mariner fans feel the same way.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. What brings you back?
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: I have to think about that, Ian. And I was
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: thinking about before we came on the show, what created
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: this show was that Kevin Mather was so comfortable and
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: entrenched in what he was doing and the way that
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: he thought that he could go in front of a
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: group of strangers with a microphone and essentially spit on
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: everyone beneath him, fans, players, team employees. And he felt
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: totally fine doing that. There was not an issue for him.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: And it only became an issue because fans saw it
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: and they got outraged. The team wasn't upset about it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: They were upset that we were upset about it. And
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: then they were forced to act by our outrage and
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: And it was that level of comfort and entrenchment that
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: led to that kind of behavior. And now we're here,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: I guess, six years. I thought it was five, six
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: years later. And I look at the powers that be,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: whether that's Jerry DiPoto and Justin Hollander or John Stanton
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: and his co-owners. And I see people that are just
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: incredibly comfortable. They feel so entrenched. And I hear Jerry
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: and Justin talk. And they say these buzzy corporate catchphrases
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: about accountability and what they need. I didn't really like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: by the way, that Jerry said that bad defense was
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: a choice yesterday. That was pretty funny.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: That was probably my favorite quote that we got out.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: Of that press conference. But that's what's contributing to this.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: I am a Mariners fan. I've been a Mariners fan.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I've been probably cognizant enough to be a Mariners fan
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: for about 40 years now. So 80% of the organization's history.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: I can put up with losing. I can put up
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: with failure. I've found joy. Some of the most enjoyable
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: memories of my life are amidst absolutely atrocious Mariner seasons.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: I can deal with it. What I can't deal with
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: is living in a world and rooting for a team
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: where results don't matter. And that's what I feel like
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: I'm living in. And that's what I feel like is
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: making my fandom harder and harder to grasp for myself.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: I need to know that somebody with some power somewhere,
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: cares a little bit about winning the way that I
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: do and the way that Chris does and the way
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: that grandma does and the way that all of these
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: people have given so much of their time, energy, love, passion, joy,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: all of the things that we do that make this
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: organization possible. None of this happens if we don't care.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: If we all woke up tomorrow and decided we didn't
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: care about the Seattle Mariners or about Major League Baseball,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: the team would just not exist. And they would just
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: have a big, empty, nice building that they'd have to
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: fill with concerts. And I want somebody somewhere to show
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: me that they care and make me feel okay coming back.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: I don't even care if they succeed. I just want
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: to know that they care. And I'm not sure if
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I'd think that they do at this point.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to encourage everybody to go to Mile Why
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: on YouTube.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Subscribe.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Chris, now I've got to go. We're going to go.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I have to go. It makes it sound like I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: being held hostage. I will go because I'm curious. I'm
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: actually really curious. Great tease. You should do radio sometimes. Yeah,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you should do radio. The two guys that you say
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: absolutely not, I can't wait to go listen to that
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: on the way home on the drive home. That's going
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to be interesting. And the four guys they should. I think,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: you know, as you're saying that, and Chris was talking
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: about Tory Lavelle, I think that's the first step to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: get to what Nate just said. Hire somebody that inspires
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: some confidence in you, that you feel like it's a
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: legitimate managerial hire, not a first-time manager like Service or Wilson,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: but someone who gives you a little bit of juice.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to go listen to that. I'm going
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to encourage everybody, go subscribe to MileWide, please, and go
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: support what Chris does. He does everything, not just Mariners,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: but everything out there at MileWide. Thanks again to Simply Seattle,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Jamie and company, for all your help. Molly Watt, 15.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. We joke about it all the time.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: We always wonder if we're going to do this thing again.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Life gets in the way. People are busy. Things are happening.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I've told you this before. It is the segment that
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: we do every week that I get the most feedback on,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: good and bad, the most passion, good and bad, from
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: everyone involved, fellow coworkers or listeners. I get texts from
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: people all the time. What are those guys going to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: say on Monday? I can't wait to hear what they're
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: going to say on Monday. You guys have built up
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: a brand. We have a ton of fun doing this.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I look forward to it every Monday, win or lose,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: believe it or not. All three of us would agree.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Winning's better. We're talking about a winning baseball team is better,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: but when they're not winning, this is not state radio
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and we're not going to pull any punches. You guys
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: aren't going to pull any punches. And I just want
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: to say, Chris, Nathan, thank you. Thank you so much
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: for another fun season.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Hey man, can I, I just got to say one
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: thing real quick. Um, so Kevin Shockey called me the
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: day after the Kevin Madder comments. And he said, Chris,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: can you please come on the radio and talk about it?
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: And I had no desire. I just didn't want to. And, uh,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: he begged me, he begged me to come on and
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: thank God he begged me because I boy, it's this
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: been the most important thing I've done in my media career.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: And I know Nathan always jokes that he doesn't have
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: a media career, but bull crap, bull crap. You absolutely have.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I almost, I almost said the other word, but I didn't.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ashley, you had.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: To pay tribute. I said bull, but I didn't say it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Nathan Bishop. Thank you so freaking much, man. Thank you
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: for being one of the kindest people, one of the
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: smartest people, one of the most compassionate people, one of
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: the most honest people. And just one of the most
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: good people in this industry, because a lot of people
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: can say that we are negative and that we are
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: quote unquote haters, but no, it's the opposite. We are lovers.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: We love the Seattle sports scene and we love this
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: baseball team and we only want the best of it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: And we want to be caretakers of this team. And
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's very many better caretakers than Nathan Bishop, man.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Like that. I just can't thank you enough for this.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: And I, you know, I'm thankful for you, Ian. I'm
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: thankful for, jess and ashley and everybody but who i'm
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: really thankful for today is nathan bishop i love you man.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Hey i love you both man thanks for that chris
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: guys i don't have anything else to say that was
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: too much for me good
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Way to end it thanks guys