Latest / INSPIRE STORY / #0166_ STORY INSPIRE: Candace Owens Emergency Podcast — Urgent Conversations & Breaking Issues
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. You know,
- 0:02Speaker 1: Regis and Kathie Lee are done. Kelly and Michael, I think,
- 0:06Speaker 1: are done. I don't even know. Who's the new Anderson
- 0:08Speaker 1: Cooper and whoever? I just think this country needs a
- 0:12Speaker 1: new morning show. And it would look exactly or very
- 0:16Speaker 1: similar to this. I think this is what, we might
- 0:18Speaker 1: have a little bit of a nicer backdrop, but a
- 0:21Speaker 1: morning show for America would be Candace and Tim in
- 0:24Speaker 1: the morning. We lead with the person who's, she's just
- 0:27Speaker 1: done a little better, let's be honest, in follower counts
- 0:29Speaker 1: and exposure. And I will tag right along. And I mean,
- 0:35Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for doing this.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Candice and Tim.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Candice, oh yeah, for sure.
- 0:38Speaker 2: It was Regis and Kelly.
- 0:40Speaker 1: I play my position. I know the deal. Candice and Tim,
- 0:44Speaker 1: I fully know my, I fully play my position. I
- 0:47Speaker 1: show up, you hand me an index card, I'm good.
- 0:50Speaker 2: That's good.
- 0:51Speaker 1: I go, for sure, yeah. Okay, good, great. You know,
- 0:54Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you a fun story that I
- 0:56Speaker 1: think you'll like. I know that you probably, you know
- 1:00Speaker 1: your reach, but I think it surprises you sometimes. I
- 1:04Speaker 1: was at the Beverly Hills Hotel. A French guy who
- 1:07Speaker 1: checks me in all the time goes, get over here.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I thought there was like a problem in the hotel.
- 1:14Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on. I thought there
- 1:15Speaker 1: was a leak in the room. He goes, listen, he's
- 1:18Speaker 1: whispering in the lobby of the hotel. He goes, are
- 1:21Speaker 1: you watching me? the Candace Owens expose right now. And
- 1:27Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I kinda, a little bit. And he goes,
- 1:30Speaker 1: oh my God. He goes, I'm from France. And he goes,
- 1:35Speaker 1: I believe it's true. And he's like, I know people
- 1:37Speaker 1: who've seen weird stuff. And we just started giggling like
- 1:42Speaker 1: schoolgirls and talking, watching Candace Owens. Because you've now become like,
- 1:50Speaker 1: This wild investigative, like you do these deep dives into stuff.
- 1:55Speaker 1: And it's really wild. And like, it was just really
- 1:58Speaker 1: fun to me that, you know, this guy who's just
- 2:02Speaker 1: checking me into a hotel was really like watching your content.
- 2:06Speaker 1: And then he's on it. This thing's blown up in France.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Oh, everywhere.
- 2:11Speaker 4: I mean, it is the most international thing I've ever done.
- 2:14Speaker 4: And I could not have ever predicted that it would
- 2:17Speaker 4: be that big.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:18Speaker 4: And the funny thing is, is if Emmanuel Macron had
- 2:21Speaker 4: not sent me that letter threat, we.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Were only going to do one episode.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:28Speaker 4: It's like, I was so angry that he had the
- 2:31Speaker 4: audacity to send a server processor to Nashville, Tennessee.
- 2:38Speaker 2: And I'm, you know, I'm a little testy when I'm pregnant.
- 2:40Speaker 4: I'll give you that, you know, like, but like someone
- 2:42Speaker 4: is going to knock on my front door and say,
- 2:45Speaker 4: the president of France says you're not allowed to.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Speak or else. It's a challenge.
- 2:50Speaker 4: I was like, okay, now we're really doing this thing.
- 2:53Speaker 4: I already knew he married a dude, but now we're
- 2:56Speaker 4: really doing this thing and we just poured hours and
- 2:59Speaker 4: hours and hours into just more research, tagging it on,
- 3:03Speaker 4: making sure people could follow it themselves and understand this
- 3:05Speaker 4: wasn't for funsies, it's like he actually married a dude.
- 3:08Speaker 1: What was interesting about this thing, I mean, you go
- 3:11Speaker 1: on this, I mean, I don't want to call it
- 3:14Speaker 1: a treasure hunt, but you go on this really exhaustive trip,
- 3:23Speaker 1: this research into Brigitte Macron, who, by the way, a
- 3:28Speaker 1: lot of people in France agree with you. Of all
- 3:31Speaker 1: political stripes. And by the way, gay people, this is
- 3:35Speaker 1: not like, a lot of people are like, One of
- 3:37Speaker 1: the journalists who looked into this was a gay journalist.
- 3:40Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, yeah, something's up here.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Something's up.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Oh, it's more than up. It is like 1,000% true.
- 3:48Speaker 4: Or else, the way that he could have stopped the
- 3:51Speaker 4: entire docker series, for those people who haven't watched it,
- 3:54Speaker 4: we then wrote back to the president and his mister
- 3:59Speaker 4: at the LAZ Palace and said, I'm glad you opened
- 4:02Speaker 4: up lines of communication We're not interested. We're not in
- 4:04Speaker 4: the business of defaming anyone. I would make a fool
- 4:08Speaker 4: of myself. So if you would just kindly answer this
- 4:11Speaker 4: yes or no question, like were you born a woman,
- 4:15Speaker 4: a female, Rajit, we'll include this and we'll stop the series.
- 4:20Speaker 4: They declined to do it. So who would not stop
- 4:23Speaker 4: if I'm like, I'm about to do this huge piece
- 4:26Speaker 4: and you can stop it by simply answering yes or no,
- 4:28Speaker 4: but they couldn't do that. because then they would have
- 4:30Speaker 4: been lying on record. It would have opened up way
- 4:33Speaker 4: more issues. And unfortunately, he's not familiar with law in America.
- 4:37Speaker 4: But in order to reach that actual malice standard, you
- 4:40Speaker 4: have to show that we acted in reckless disregard for
- 4:42Speaker 4: the truth.
- 4:43Speaker 2: You refuse to say the truth.
- 4:44Speaker 4: I mean, it was just this pompous 100-page, we don't
- 4:47Speaker 4: have to answer whether or not, like, Brigitte is a
- 4:50Speaker 4: woman or a man.
- 4:52Speaker 2: What a bizarre thing to say.
- 4:53Speaker 1: It's such an odd story because what it does, what's
- 4:57Speaker 1: very interesting about the story to me, There's many layers
- 5:00Speaker 1: to it. And what it really calls into question is,
- 5:02Speaker 1: how much do we know about the people who run
- 5:04Speaker 1: our lives?
- 5:06Speaker 2: Nothing.
- 5:07Speaker 1: So this is what's really interesting to me. These people
- 5:10Speaker 1: are introduced at some point as the best option to
- 5:13Speaker 1: lead whatever. I think one of the reasons Trump was
- 5:17Speaker 1: so popular is that people knew him for 30 years.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Love him, hate him. Multiple wives, this, that, and the other.
- 5:22Speaker 1: People say nasty things about him. People adore him. But
- 5:26Speaker 1: they know him. He's not You know, certain people, Bill
- 5:30Speaker 1: Clinton is governing the smallest state in America and is
- 5:32Speaker 1: then thrust into the spotlight. Barack Obama, a lot of
- 5:36Speaker 1: people on the right wing just emerge and they become,
- 5:40Speaker 1: you know, a household name immediately. We don't know, no
- 5:43Speaker 1: one is doing a lot of research into the backstories
- 5:47Speaker 1: of any of these people. And when we do, we're attacked.
- 5:52Speaker 1: You're being attacked. It's the craziest thing. I'm like, what
- 5:55Speaker 1: is happening?
- 5:56Speaker 4: And it's so much crazier because there's stuff that I
- 5:58Speaker 4: can't say on record just yet.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Of course.
- 6:00Speaker 2: I'll tell you off camera, but.
- 6:02Speaker 4: It's gotten even crazier in terms of like, Emmanuel has
- 6:05Speaker 4: really come undone because he has.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Never been this exposed.
- 6:09Speaker 4: Everyone kind of already knew in France because in France
- 6:12Speaker 4: it was being like a, it was a bubble, but
- 6:14Speaker 4: the journalists again on the left were the ones that
- 6:16Speaker 4: fell down the hole as they were trying to write these, uh, honestly,
- 6:21Speaker 4: they were trying to prop up a Brigitte. They were
- 6:22Speaker 4: trying to write these feminist pieces about Brigitte. And then suddenly, yeah,
- 6:27Speaker 4: they're like, oh, they were trying to do like the
- 6:28Speaker 4: Michelle Obama.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Oh, this is amazing for women.
- 6:30Speaker 4: And then when they tried to do any bit of research,
- 6:33Speaker 4: they fell down a hole because the person didn't exist.
- 6:36Speaker 4: And then suddenly they were being called into the Elysee Palace. Like,
- 6:38Speaker 4: imagine I'm like, I'm going to write this glowing piece
- 6:40Speaker 4: about Ivanka Trump and her childhood. And suddenly you get
- 6:44Speaker 4: called in And you have Secret Service being like, what
- 6:47Speaker 4: are you working on?
- 6:47Speaker 1: Right. And there's no photos.
- 6:49Speaker 4: No, you can't do it. Here's what you're going to write.
- 6:51Speaker 4: And let me tell you how it's going to go.
- 6:52Speaker 4: And people are going, this is weird. Why can't I
- 6:54Speaker 4: find or confirm anything? Why are they locking down yearbooks?
- 6:57Speaker 4: Imagine if you were like, I'm going to write about Candace.
- 6:59Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm going to Stanford High School. And then
- 7:00Speaker 4: suddenly Stanford High School starts locking down yearbooks. Something's not
- 7:04Speaker 4: right here. It should be very easy to fact check
- 7:07Speaker 4: that somebody existed.
- 7:08Speaker 1: It's very easy to find at least a few. a
- 7:12Speaker 1: few photos of somebody.
- 7:14Speaker 2: I don't know, you in the hospital when you gave
- 7:16Speaker 2: birth to your three kids, is that right? Take that
- 7:18Speaker 2: first photo.
- 7:19Speaker 1: But you also go into this thing, and by the way,
- 7:22Speaker 1: you know, some of this is, and you've just, when
- 7:25Speaker 1: you're doing this, the sense of humor, I don't know
- 7:27Speaker 1: if you know how funny it is. It is, I mean,
- 7:29Speaker 1: it's laugh out loud, and I meet the staff at
- 7:32Speaker 1: these hotels where we're all just watching, and people like,
- 7:34Speaker 1: the richest people in the world, like, hey, our room services,
- 7:37Speaker 1: we're like, can you relax? We're on episode three. There's
- 7:40Speaker 1: six episodes. We have a lot to do. But it's
- 7:44Speaker 1: very funny. You delivered this stuff. First of all, this
- 7:46Speaker 1: idea that really struck me about this whole thing was,
- 7:48Speaker 1: number one, she gets together with him. He's like 15, right?
- 7:50Speaker 2: It's already weird. It started weird.
- 7:52Speaker 1: It's already like a huge problem.
- 7:53Speaker 2: It's like you're 40 and he's 16. It's like even
- 7:55Speaker 2: if this was above board.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 7:57Speaker 1: He's 14.
- 7:57Speaker 2: You're 40. We got a problem.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Huge problem. But then it is– this is what really
- 8:02Speaker 1: makes me laugh. It is– and Candace, you got to–
- 8:05Speaker 1: if you haven't watched it, you got to watch it
- 8:06Speaker 1: because she handles this in a very funny way. it's
- 8:08Speaker 1: sold that this is like a voluptuous model that like
- 8:13Speaker 1: is on, like no one could resist this woman. Like
- 8:16Speaker 1: every guy in class is gonna be looking at this
- 8:18Speaker 1: woman going like, this woman is voluptuous and really attractive.
- 8:22Speaker 2: And like she's just a- Claudia Schiffer.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Claudia Schiffer.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:26Speaker 1: And then the photos come out and immediately you go,
- 8:31Speaker 1: they're lying about everything. Like everything's a lie. Like you
- 8:35Speaker 1: see this and immediately you go, wait a minute, hold on.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Everything seems to be a lie. We've all seen beautiful
- 8:41Speaker 1: women and we know what good looking women look like.
- 8:44Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong. You know what I mean? It's like,
- 8:46Speaker 1: This isn't a voluptuous French.
- 8:49Speaker 2: This is a gym teacher.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Yes.
- 8:51Speaker 2: A PE teacher.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:53Speaker 4: Already, when they were trying to run Emmanuel, they knew
- 8:55Speaker 4: they had to justify this weird age gap.
- 8:57Speaker 2: And so the press went out.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Which again was 48 and 50.
- 9:00Speaker 2: It was, well, if... At best, they were trying to
- 9:04Speaker 2: tell 40 and 14, okay?
- 9:06Speaker 1: At best. Okay, which is illegal.
- 9:07Speaker 4: But actually, it's 48 and 14, because we know that.
- 9:11Speaker 2: That's the craziest.
- 9:12Speaker 4: Once you get to the end of it, you realize,
- 9:14Speaker 4: you know, this is Jean-Michel Trogno, but if she actually
- 9:16Speaker 4: had been Brigitte, the enemy that she stole... then she
- 9:19Speaker 4: would have been, it would have been 40 and 14.
- 9:21Speaker 4: So they first went to the press and wrote a
- 9:23Speaker 4: bunch of confusing articles like.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Oh, actually, no, he was 15 and they sold him
- 9:27Speaker 2: as this.
- 9:27Speaker 4: Like virtuoso Mozart and she was just supposed to be,
- 9:30Speaker 4: according to the press, we just read the articles and
- 9:32Speaker 4: nobody actually found pictures of her. This just irresistible, drop dead,
- 9:37Speaker 4: Claudia Schiffer, sexy, all the boys, imagine their hormones running,
- 9:40Speaker 4: they're horny, like, oh, we all, we love this teacher,
- 9:43Speaker 4: she's so hot.
- 9:44Speaker 2: And then you see the actual photos of her.
- 9:47Speaker 4: And you're like, No boy, no, no boy, not one
- 9:51Speaker 4: boy at this school, not even one boy at this
- 9:55Speaker 4: school was into this. So what is this? Why did
- 9:57Speaker 4: the press even lie to us about that? And then
- 9:59Speaker 4: you start realizing, something's very wrong here with this picture.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Something's very wrong here. And then you start and then
- 10:04Speaker 1: you do this amazing job of, because there's a lot
- 10:06Speaker 1: of people that have looked into this in France. And
- 10:10Speaker 1: they've been defamed. And sued.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Detained.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Detained.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Detained.
- 10:15Speaker 4: The main journalist on this had to move his family
- 10:18Speaker 4: because they were trying to get him on taxes.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Like, you know, I will find any crime.
- 10:22Speaker 4: And they started going after people for really small and
- 10:25Speaker 4: petty things.
- 10:25Speaker 1: And they didn't care who's writing about this. They're going
- 10:29Speaker 1: after everybody. And it's weird for a story with no
- 10:33Speaker 1: legs or for something that's completely untrue. why would they
- 10:37Speaker 1: be detaining people?
- 10:38Speaker 4: Why would a president of a country send a letter
- 10:42Speaker 4: to Nashville, Tennessee?
- 10:43Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 10:44Speaker 4: To like a pregnant woman that's like recording from her basement.
- 10:47Speaker 4: That tells you the story's true. I mean, there's no,
- 10:49Speaker 4: otherwise you'd be like, well, part of being a president,
- 10:52Speaker 4: people write stuff about you all the time. And if
- 10:53Speaker 4: there's something about Trump, you know, like he's not gonna,
- 10:56Speaker 4: you can't chase down every person that's saying something unless
- 10:59Speaker 4: there's something here that you're very fearful of.
- 11:01Speaker 2: And it's terrifying when you get to it.
- 11:03Speaker 1: What do you think, the reaction is in, I mean,
- 11:08Speaker 1: the palace to when this line of inquiry starts coming
- 11:15Speaker 1: from you, from someone in America with a massive platform,
- 11:20Speaker 1: are they panicked?
- 11:21Speaker 4: Yes, they are panicked. They are making phone calls. Their
- 11:25Speaker 4: lawyers are still calling my lawyers. They still asked for
- 11:29Speaker 4: us to take down the series because they were afraid
- 11:33Speaker 4: when Joe Rogan mentioned it recently. So they made another
- 11:36Speaker 4: phone call and were basically like, you know, we could
- 11:38Speaker 4: still see you in the future, but maybe you just
- 11:41Speaker 4: want to take it down. And I'm like, have they not?
- 11:43Speaker 4: worked through my character. Stop with these phone calls. I
- 11:47Speaker 4: said to my lawyer, if they call again, we're doing
- 11:49Speaker 4: a season two because I left a lot on the table.
- 11:52Speaker 4: I basically was like, there's so much here.
- 11:54Speaker 1: No, if they call again, you're going to get this
- 11:56Speaker 1: on Netflix. If they call again.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Stop calling pregnant Candace.
- 12:00Speaker 1: No, of course, of course. Now, you go through this
- 12:04Speaker 1: whole thing. This opens these interesting doors, right? Now, a
- 12:07Speaker 1: lot of people, you find yourself in this subterranean world
- 12:13Speaker 1: that most people don't know exists, right? Where you have
- 12:16Speaker 1: intelligence agencies and these programs, things like MKUltra. Now, some
- 12:21Speaker 1: people do know about this stuff. Some people are, you know,
- 12:27Speaker 1: really well-educated on this stuff. Some people have a passing
- 12:31Speaker 1: familiarity with it. But they were mind control programs that
- 12:36Speaker 1: were in America. They were all over the place. And
- 12:39Speaker 1: these were programs that were utilized to turn people you know,
- 12:44Speaker 1: people into essentially slaves that could be programmed to do things,
- 12:50Speaker 1: whether it was assassinate someone and not remember why or
- 12:54Speaker 1: who told you to do it, or be a sex slave,
- 12:58Speaker 1: or perhaps in a Manchurian candidate fashion, run the government.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Run a country.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Run a country.
- 13:03Speaker 4: And that is who Emmanuel Macron is. And the craziest
- 13:06Speaker 4: part is.
- 13:07Speaker 1: So that's your... That's kind of the.
- 13:10Speaker 4: I mean, by the time I looked at everything, think
- 13:13Speaker 4: about this. This is a guy who was sold to
- 13:14Speaker 4: the public as a virtuoso, a Mozart. He was just
- 13:17Speaker 4: so brilliant. When you get to the episode where I
- 13:19Speaker 4: explained to you that essentially, just so Americans understand, they
- 13:22Speaker 4: have a program that every person who runs a bank
- 13:25Speaker 4: goes through. Let's call it a graduate program, like going
- 13:28Speaker 4: to maybe UPenn and getting your MBA. It's slightly different,
- 13:31Speaker 4: but just for sake of understanding here. So he went
- 13:33Speaker 4: to this program after failing to get into it three times.
- 13:36Speaker 4: Then magically, they were just like, okay, you can get in.
- 13:38Speaker 4: And not only did he then get in, but he
- 13:40Speaker 4: graduated at the top of his class. There were some
- 13:42Speaker 4: tests that they had to do, and he graduated. And
- 13:45Speaker 4: everyone on campus knew he was an idiot, okay? For
- 13:47Speaker 4: the first time in that college's university or program's history,
- 13:51Speaker 4: the students revolted and said, these are clearly fake test scores.
- 13:54Speaker 2: There's no way this.
- 13:55Speaker 4: Idiot, Emmanuel Macron, got the number one grade in this.
- 13:59Speaker 2: We all know he's an idiot.
- 14:00Speaker 4: And so for the first time in that program's history,
- 14:04Speaker 4: because the kids were so outraged, they just canceled results
- 14:06Speaker 4: because they made it up that he finished the top
- 14:10Speaker 4: of his class. Beyond that, he then goes and works
- 14:12Speaker 4: for Rothschild's Bank, right, is the youngest ever managing partner
- 14:16Speaker 4: The people that work at Rothschild's bank said he was
- 14:18Speaker 4: such an idiot, he didn't even know what ibida meant.
- 14:20Speaker 4: But they all knew that David Rothschild just like, you know,
- 14:23Speaker 4: plucked him up and that was like, you know, to
- 14:26Speaker 4: essentially give him a fake resume.
- 14:27Speaker 1: He's never defined himself intellectually in any capacity.
- 14:29Speaker 2: No, and he was just.
- 14:30Speaker 1: And he's top of his class and now he's working
- 14:32Speaker 1: at Rothschild's bank, the youngest, managing, whatever.
- 14:34Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that was done by the Wall Street
- 14:37Speaker 4: Journal who did a book on this. So this isn't
- 14:38Speaker 4: like we're finding this stuff on Reddit threads. The people
- 14:40Speaker 4: spoke out and were like, he was such an idiot,
- 14:42Speaker 4: but it didn't matter. And we understood that he was
- 14:45Speaker 4: like protected Rothschild, and they needed to kind of create
- 14:48Speaker 4: this fake resume for him to make people think he
- 14:50Speaker 4: was a genius.
- 14:51Speaker 2: He's not smart.
- 14:52Speaker 1: And when the traditional press is looking into this and
- 14:54Speaker 1: they're finding similar things to what you're finding, how are
- 14:56Speaker 1: they– presenting this idea that this kind of like empty
- 15:00Speaker 1: suit of a guy is like failing upwards.
- 15:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what a lot of these mainstream journalists
- 15:05Speaker 4: do is they kind of say what they have to
- 15:07Speaker 4: say in a very professional way and they leave it
- 15:09Speaker 4: for the people like me to then kind of.
- 15:12Speaker 1: It's a good point.
- 15:13Speaker 4: You know, go there and say, hey guys... This is
- 15:16Speaker 4: what a Manchurian candidate would look like. These people tend
- 15:19Speaker 4: to always be in drama classes. Zelensky is obviously so...
- 15:25Speaker 4: Is anybody actually thinking that Zelensky is running the country?
- 15:28Speaker 2: He's a literal actor who played a... Yes, and they're
- 15:33Speaker 2: all in drama classes.
- 15:33Speaker 1: I always imagine Vladimir Putin finding that out. And almost
- 15:38Speaker 1: being like, the CIA is not even trying.
- 15:41Speaker 2: I feel that way.
- 15:42Speaker 1: It's so crazy.
- 15:45Speaker 2: I do feel that way.
- 15:46Speaker 1: It would be installing Khloe Kardashian to run the Ukraine.
- 15:52Speaker 2: And I wouldn't even say, Khloe, I could probably buy
- 15:54Speaker 2: more than Zelensky.
- 15:56Speaker 1: For sure.
- 15:56Speaker 4: It's like, who is behind you? Why are we doing this?
- 15:59Speaker 4: That was why they freaked out about the Tucker-Putin interview.
- 16:02Speaker 4: Because Putin, at one point, when Tucker asked a question about...
- 16:05Speaker 4: what about the president or whatever? Or he said he
- 16:07Speaker 4: shook hands with Bill Clinton, agreed to something. And Putin
- 16:10Speaker 4: was kind of like, I don't deal with your presidents.
- 16:11Speaker 4: I deal with the CIA. Like the presidents are just
- 16:14Speaker 4: kind of like, they, yeah, they're puppets. Like I got
- 16:16Speaker 4: to deal with the CIA and, And these are the
- 16:18Speaker 4: sorts of things they don't want the public to know, right?
- 16:20Speaker 4: Because we need to all believe in this illusion, like
- 16:22Speaker 4: you voted this person in and this person's really running
- 16:25Speaker 4: things and the deep state doesn't exist. But never, and
- 16:28Speaker 4: I've come to terms with that a long time ago,
- 16:30Speaker 4: but never in a million years did I think, I mean,
- 16:33Speaker 4: the Emmanuel Macron story is wacky because it's like, if
- 16:35Speaker 4: you're already going to go through this effort to choose
- 16:38Speaker 4: a mentoring candidate, is it just not like crazy enough
- 16:42Speaker 4: just doing that? Like, do you really have to add
- 16:44Speaker 4: on the transitioning of a potential family member who molested
- 16:47Speaker 4: him when he was a kid and just see if
- 16:49Speaker 4: you can get away with it? Is it just like,
- 16:50Speaker 4: ha ha ha, let's see if the public, if we
- 16:52Speaker 4: just have a man as the first lady. That's like
- 16:55Speaker 4: a really big.
- 16:56Speaker 1: So who is Brigitte Macron?
- 16:59Speaker 4: Brigitte Macron was an individual who was born Jean-Michel Trognoe.
- 17:04Speaker 1: And the relation to Emmanuel is?
- 17:06Speaker 4: That, I can't say for certain. You know, that's why
- 17:10Speaker 4: we did not conclude. how they are related, my sense
- 17:13Speaker 4: is it's the missing uncle whose name is Jean-Michel, who was...
- 17:19Speaker 4: Not a bad guess. Who was the godfather when Emmanuel
- 17:24Speaker 4: Macron got First Communion at school, who's just missing. There's
- 17:28Speaker 4: just a missing... That's my best bet, is that it's
- 17:31Speaker 4: an uncle. But I don't know.
- 17:34Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 17:35Speaker 4: I know that without question that... that Brigitte McCrone was
- 17:39Speaker 4: not born a woman. We've given them every ample opportunity
- 17:43Speaker 4: to clarify that fact and what they've done behind the
- 17:45Speaker 4: scenes since that series has only further stressed that we
- 17:50Speaker 4: have definitively stumbled upon the truth and they are going
- 17:52Speaker 4: through very desperate measures right now to try to get
- 17:55Speaker 4: our series removed off of YouTube.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Really?
- 17:57Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like as far as you could possibly
- 18:00Speaker 4: go in terms of trying to get this series removed
- 18:03Speaker 4: and to get me shut up because they know that
- 18:05Speaker 4: the legal route isn't working. they're placing high phone calls,
- 18:08Speaker 4: they're doing whatever they can. And that should signal to
- 18:10Speaker 4: the public that this is real. Because again, if somebody
- 18:13Speaker 4: made a series and was like, no, Candace Owens was
- 18:15Speaker 4: actually born Michael, I'd be like, dude, public, you're an idiot.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Like that's actually kind of funny.
- 18:19Speaker 1: There's something interesting about the idea that if you can
- 18:23Speaker 1: sell people on this, then what else could you sell
- 18:27Speaker 1: people on? You know, if, if, if this is the
- 18:31Speaker 1: case where this, this woman who was Jean-Michel Tragneau, they've,
- 18:36Speaker 1: They've put the entire French press to sleep. And they've
- 18:41Speaker 1: done this with the help of a kind of PR
- 18:46Speaker 1: guru in France.
- 18:48Speaker 2: A gangster. Let's be clear.
- 18:49Speaker 1: A gangster.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Mimi Marchand is a gangster.
- 18:52Speaker 1: She's a gangster.
- 18:52Speaker 4: She's again now being tried for extortion and all this stuff.
- 18:56Speaker 4: But that's the way the governments run. I don't think
- 18:58Speaker 4: people can process that, but it's like the CIA was
- 19:00Speaker 4: a gang. They are a gang. They will kill people
- 19:04Speaker 4: who don't do what they want. And so in order
- 19:07Speaker 4: to massage this in the public, they used a woman.
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- 20:34Speaker 1: Are you banned from France?
- 20:36Speaker 2: I wouldn't go to France.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:39Speaker 4: I've effectively banned myself because they have the full power
- 20:41Speaker 4: to do whatever they want in France. I mean, think
- 20:43Speaker 4: about the fact that they arrested Pavel Durov for a bit.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
- 20:47Speaker 2: They are not. That is not a free speech country.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Right.
- 20:50Speaker 2: And they are deranged. And so. If they're already arresting journalists,
- 20:55Speaker 2: I'm like number one.
- 20:56Speaker 4: If they went through the effort, the strenuous effort to
- 20:58Speaker 4: send me a 100-page letter, I'm not going to go
- 21:01Speaker 4: into their gang territory.
- 21:01Speaker 1: So it's your belief that you've got Emmanuel Macron who
- 21:04Speaker 1: goes through this program. He's selected at a very young
- 21:07Speaker 1: age to basically be some type of Manchurian candidate. And
- 21:11Speaker 1: then at some point, Jean-Michel Tragneau becomes Brigitte, who then
- 21:19Speaker 1: becomes a teacher.
- 21:20Speaker 2: And then– To further groom, he was groomed by Brigitte,
- 21:24Speaker 2: there's no question.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Right, and then Macron is 14, Brigitte's 40, and... Then
- 21:32Speaker 1: they begin a, at what point do they begin a courtship?
- 21:35Speaker 1: I'm like confused.
- 21:36Speaker 4: Well, the official story is that they tell you is
- 21:39Speaker 4: she saw him on stage performing in the play. And
- 21:43Speaker 4: as a 40 year old woman, I mean, even that
- 21:45Speaker 4: was a flag for me. Like older women, like men
- 21:48Speaker 4: will find like younger women attractive.
- 21:51Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 21:52Speaker 4: Like a hot 18 year old, older women, like you
- 21:54Speaker 4: ever seen a 14 year old boy? Like literally like
- 21:57Speaker 4: a gang, like it's.
- 21:58Speaker 2: Not like a man in their prime is going to
- 22:00Speaker 2: be like a 22-year-old, you know what I mean?
- 22:02Speaker 1: Right, right.
- 22:02Speaker 4: If it's a 14-year-old boy, I'm like, we don't find,
- 22:05Speaker 4: why would a 40-year-old woman find.
- 22:06Speaker 1: A 14-year-old boy?
- 22:07Speaker 2: Every woman I know likes.
- 22:09Speaker 1: People that are usually their age or a little bit older.
- 22:11Speaker 4: You want the Troy Brad Pitt age for men. So
- 22:14Speaker 4: when you see a woman and she's a cougar, she's
- 22:17Speaker 4: a cougar for Troy, Brad Pitt and Troy.
- 22:20Speaker 1: No, it's a crime.
- 22:20Speaker 4: She's not looking for a 14-year-old boy.
- 22:22Speaker 1: No, we're talking about a crime.
- 22:23Speaker 2: It's a crime. I'm like, everyone just go find a
- 22:25Speaker 2: 14-year-old boy.
- 22:26Speaker 1: It's a crime.
- 22:27Speaker 4: No, it's a crime. There's not a hot 14-year-old boy.
- 22:29Speaker 4: They're very much in their weird phase.
- 22:31Speaker 1: So she's a teacher at this school. Yeah. He's a student.
- 22:33Speaker 2: And he's in a play, and she just was so
- 22:36Speaker 2: swept away.
- 22:36Speaker 1: By the way, what happened?
- 22:37Speaker 2: Remember the Me Too?
- 22:38Speaker 1: Remember all the concerns about all the things like this? Mm-hmm.
- 22:41Speaker 1: This would seem to be prime.
- 22:42Speaker 4: I would hope it would fall in the parameters of, yeah,
- 22:45Speaker 4: a little bit of Me Too-ing.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Oof.
- 22:47Speaker 1: All of the parameters of an inappropriate power dynamic.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Just a little bit.
- 22:51Speaker 4: And so, yeah, she then claims that, you know, it
- 22:54Speaker 4: was just so irresistible and then at some point they
- 22:58Speaker 4: pursue a relationship and that part gets a little bit fuzzy.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I would imagine.
- 23:03Speaker 4: Yeah, that part gets a little bit fuzzy, you know,
- 23:04Speaker 4: alleging she was married and, I mean, you have to watch.
- 23:08Speaker 4: There's so much there that's just insanity.
- 23:11Speaker 1: No, and it's being talked about by so many different
- 23:14Speaker 1: people that Because you've waded into a lot of things
- 23:19Speaker 1: recently where you have a perspective that a lot of
- 23:23Speaker 1: people don't have. But as soon as they start listening
- 23:26Speaker 1: to you, they start going, wait a minute. Whether they
- 23:30Speaker 1: agree with all your conclusions or not, the general consensus
- 23:34Speaker 1: is that you're on to something. For example, people are
- 23:40Speaker 1: anti-Semitism or this, that, and the other thing. But there
- 23:42Speaker 1: is a prominent Jewish person that you are helping that
- 23:45Speaker 1: no one else is helping.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Yeah, they ignore that part. She's Adolf Hitler.
- 23:49Speaker 1: There is a very prominent Jewish person who you are
- 23:52Speaker 1: actually helping that no one is helping. And that person
- 23:55Speaker 1: is Harvey Weinstein. And you have looked over this and
- 24:00Speaker 1: have come to, I don't want to say a conclusion,
- 24:04Speaker 1: but you're certainly leaning in the direction that that we
- 24:08Speaker 1: don't know the whole story.
- 24:09Speaker 2: He was wrongfully convicted, is my conclusion.
- 24:11Speaker 4: And the thing about me is when you listen to
- 24:13Speaker 4: my podcast, I'll tell you my thoughts. The whole idea
- 24:16Speaker 4: of saying that you're not biased is ridiculous.
- 24:19Speaker 2: So I will say to someone, I've looked over this case.
- 24:22Speaker 4: After looking over this case, I've concluded that Harvey Weinstein
- 24:24Speaker 4: was wrongfully convicted and was basically just hung on the
- 24:26Speaker 4: Me Too thing. And I'm going to show you how
- 24:27Speaker 4: I got there, but I'm going to give you access
- 24:29Speaker 4: to everything I'm looking at. I'm not here to tell
- 24:31Speaker 4: you I'm the expert and I'm above you. you can
- 24:33Speaker 4: investigate this with me. And Harvey Weinstein, when he, when
- 24:36Speaker 4: this came across my plate, honestly, somebody contacted me and
- 24:40Speaker 4: I just thought, I thought he was guilty. I mean,
- 24:41Speaker 4: that even shows that me, I think I'm, I'm impervious
- 24:45Speaker 4: to the media. And I always like know the media
- 24:48Speaker 4: is lying, but I clearly fell for the Harvey Weinstein thing.
- 24:51Speaker 4: Cause it was, it was like 130 women. I mean,
- 24:53Speaker 4: I was like, something's just basic odds here. Someone's got
- 24:57Speaker 4: to be telling the truth. And then I realized I
- 24:59Speaker 4: didn't even know why he was in prison. I didn't
- 25:01Speaker 4: even recognize how many women actually put him in prison.
- 25:04Speaker 4: And it came down to just three. In all those cases,
- 25:06Speaker 4: three women. And when you look at the case, it
- 25:09Speaker 4: is the most absurd, ridiculous. You have to genuinely believe
- 25:15Speaker 4: that a woman can be, while having a four-year affair,
- 25:20Speaker 4: raped one time, continued the affair for multiple years. That
- 25:25Speaker 4: one time she was raped right after emailed him for
- 25:28Speaker 4: tickets to go to Paris, to be flown with her
- 25:32Speaker 4: friends to Paris. That part she doesn't remember, or when
- 25:34Speaker 4: she gets questioned on the stand, she breaks down crying, right?
- 25:37Speaker 4: She breaks down crying. Like, why would you do this?
- 25:39Speaker 4: And also, after she got raped, like, brought her mom
- 25:42Speaker 4: to meet him. It just gets, like, it's a little
- 25:44Speaker 4: too much. I know what a sugar baby is, okay?
- 25:48Speaker 4: The world knows what sugar babies are. I... fully accept
- 25:51Speaker 4: that he abused his power like of course people know
- 25:55Speaker 4: you're Harvey freaking Weiss and you've done the most amazing
- 25:57Speaker 4: movies ever and these women are not sleeping with you
- 26:00Speaker 4: because you're Brad Pitt and Troy you know what I'm
- 26:02Speaker 4: saying and so they feel like they and then imagine
- 26:07Speaker 4: doing that like you sleep with him and then afterwards
- 26:10Speaker 4: your career doesn't take off And so I feel these
- 26:13Speaker 4: women are trying to rinse themselves of their sins. Of like,
- 26:16Speaker 4: oh no, I didn't sleep with Harvey Weinstein.
- 26:19Speaker 2: When I was young. I was raped.
- 26:22Speaker 4: When you read these women's emails following their quote unquote
- 26:25Speaker 4: rapes or sexual assaults, you just go, listen, I'm not
- 26:31Speaker 4: an expert.
- 26:31Speaker 2: I know we're in the age of the experts.
- 26:34Speaker 4: I'm not an expert on what does and does not
- 26:37Speaker 4: qualify rape, but I would like to think that you
- 26:41Speaker 4: wouldn't say, oh, he's like a father to me.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Oh, I love him. He's a mentor. He's this.
- 26:45Speaker 4: My mom meets him. When you read these emails and
- 26:48Speaker 4: read how many there are, you just go, okay, this
- 26:50Speaker 4: was something else, right?
- 26:51Speaker 3: Right.
- 26:52Speaker 4: And also, you would then be alone with him again
- 26:54Speaker 4: over and over in a hotel room. Would you not
- 26:56Speaker 4: try to avoid the circumstance ever again?
- 26:58Speaker 1: It feels like an incredible stretch to say that somebody...
- 27:10Speaker 1: who we know abuses power and, you know, was not
- 27:14Speaker 1: acting in a moral or upstanding way or, you know,
- 27:17Speaker 1: was probably aggressive and did things that nobody would support,
- 27:23Speaker 1: should just be convicted on the basis of a general
- 27:30Speaker 1: vibe instead of a specific set of provable allegations, which
- 27:36Speaker 1: I think is where you landed on this. Yeah.
- 27:38Speaker 4: And I landed on that and had said that publicly
- 27:41Speaker 4: on Twitter. And then that was before the appellate courts
- 27:44Speaker 4: reversed the decision. So I said it. And then a
- 27:47Speaker 4: few months ago, Harvey Weinstein's decision got overturned in New
- 27:51Speaker 4: York and the appellate judges said the exact same thing.
- 27:53Speaker 2: They were like, this was a kangaroo court. I mean,
- 27:55Speaker 2: I don't understand.
- 27:56Speaker 4: They were allowing anyone to come into the court and
- 27:58Speaker 4: say whatever. you would get like a former assistant that
- 28:00Speaker 4: was like, I was there one time and, you know,
- 28:03Speaker 4: him and his brother got into a fight.
- 28:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Just like character assassination in the courtroom.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a juror on a murder trial and they,
- 28:09Speaker 1: at one time, they were like, you cannot bring up
- 28:13Speaker 1: other things this defendant did. Exactly. We are trying this
- 28:16Speaker 1: defendant on these set of allegations and nothing else. Right.
- 28:20Speaker 4: They let it, with Tarvey Weinstein, they let anyone, you
- 28:22Speaker 4: could say, And he took my pencil in eighth grade.
- 28:25Speaker 3: Right.
- 28:25Speaker 4: It was just a full character assassination that had nothing
- 28:28Speaker 4: to do.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Have you spoken to him?
- 28:29Speaker 2: Yeah. I speak to Harvey.
- 28:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:31Speaker 1: And, and, and how does he feel that one human
- 28:37Speaker 1: being on earth is trying to, you know, shed light
- 28:42Speaker 1: on this case?
- 28:43Speaker 2: You know, he called me.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Am I wrong? You're it. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
- 28:47Speaker 2: And he called me and he thanked me.
- 28:48Speaker 4: I mean, he's hasn't had this much hope in years. And,
- 28:52Speaker 4: You know, he'd been listening to his lawyers for a
- 28:54Speaker 4: long time. Don't talk to anyone. Don't say anything. And
- 28:56Speaker 4: that was part of the struggle of bringing this story
- 28:58Speaker 4: forward because they're like, well, you don't want to blow
- 29:00Speaker 4: your chances. And I said to him, listen, I don't
- 29:02Speaker 4: think your lawyers understand.
- 29:04Speaker 2: You're in prison because you lost the public war. You
- 29:07Speaker 2: know what I mean?
- 29:07Speaker 1: Right.
- 29:08Speaker 2: Me too was just, they were just hanging people publicly. Right.
- 29:11Speaker 4: And if you don't actually get out what happened, and
- 29:13Speaker 4: he was just elated, like for the first time he
- 29:17Speaker 4: had hope. And the thing that's so sad that people
- 29:19Speaker 4: don't realize, and I don't know how these women sleep
- 29:21Speaker 4: at night, He has kids, you know, he has kids
- 29:24Speaker 4: that are growing up and they are being told that
- 29:27Speaker 4: their father is a rapist.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Not your father is a.
- 29:30Speaker 4: Bad man and a moral man. Your father abused his,
- 29:34Speaker 4: you know, abused his power. All those things might be true,
- 29:37Speaker 4: but a rapist, which is something totally different. And I
- 29:40Speaker 4: just don't understand how people can sleep at night.
- 29:44Speaker 1: And he denies that. He says, I am not a rapist.
- 29:46Speaker 4: No, he's denied it from the very beginning. And he's admitted,
- 29:48Speaker 4: I've had affairs. And they, oh, why'd you pay him off?
- 29:51Speaker 4: He's like, because I was cheating on my wife nonstop
- 29:54Speaker 4: at the peninsula. And so when these women came and
- 29:57Speaker 4: were like, well, you better pay me, I paid some
- 29:59Speaker 4: of them off, obviously.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Right.
- 30:01Speaker 2: But when you read the emails, it's just– it is ridiculous.
- 30:05Speaker 4: It defies common sense to believe that anyone would communicate
- 30:08Speaker 4: like that for years and years after they were allegedly
- 30:12Speaker 4: assaulted or they were allegedly raped. And they all were
- 30:15Speaker 4: looking for careers. They're all in the industry. They're all
- 30:17Speaker 4: asking him for tickets. And he was the guy– he
- 30:19Speaker 4: got them, the tickets, by the way.
- 30:20Speaker 1: We watched the Kevin Spacey doc and it was these
- 30:22Speaker 1: guys who were like, well, he was inappropriate. But then
- 30:24Speaker 1: I went to his apartment. It's like, what are you doing?
- 30:26Speaker 2: What are you doing?
- 30:26Speaker 1: You're trying to get something and fine, but then you
- 30:30Speaker 1: can't turn around and go, this guy ruined my life
- 30:33Speaker 1: because it does feel like there is a fair amount
- 30:36Speaker 1: of like, you know, revisionist history or Monday morning quarterbacking. Again,
- 30:40Speaker 1: not the, you know, Harvey Weinstein. We're not saying it's like,
- 30:42Speaker 1: you know, you know, the moral paragon of whatever.
- 30:46Speaker 4: He's not Justin Baldoni. Like it's not a case where
- 30:48Speaker 4: you're like, this guy was just such an amazing person.
- 30:50Speaker 3: No, of course.
- 30:51Speaker 2: But people need to be nuanced.
- 30:52Speaker 1: And now you got into that one too.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Yeah. That one really got me angry.
- 30:55Speaker 1: I kind of was, I'm not even, I was kind
- 30:58Speaker 1: of barely paying attention to that one. Yeah. Because I'm
- 31:02Speaker 1: kind of like, I didn't, I, I, I paid attention
- 31:05Speaker 1: a little bit to Depp Heard. And then I felt
- 31:07Speaker 1: this was kind of a, Gepard's sequel?
- 31:10Speaker 2: Oh, it was so much worse.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Oh, interesting.
- 31:12Speaker 2: He did nothing. He just did nothing. And what was.
- 31:15Speaker 1: The motivation for Blake Lively to do this?
- 31:19Speaker 4: I think for a very long time, we just, as
- 31:21Speaker 4: a society, didn't realize Ryan Reynolds was a psychopath.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 31:25Speaker 4: Because he was kind of playing himself as Deadpool, and
- 31:28Speaker 4: people thought it was kind of funny, and then.
- 31:31Speaker 4: Something triggered him about Justin Baldoni and he went on
- 31:34Speaker 4: an absolute tear to destroy every layer of this man's life.
- 31:38Speaker 4: And his wife wanted to control the movie. She admitted
- 31:42Speaker 4: as much on stage as that's what she does. She
- 31:44Speaker 4: pretends she just wants to act, but she's really there
- 31:47Speaker 4: because she wants to take over movies. And just the
- 31:50Speaker 4: length that they went through to destroy this. I think
- 31:53Speaker 4: it's like you see a puppy, you know you can,
- 31:55Speaker 4: and Ryan was just like, I.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Can do it. You gotta listen to it because when
- 31:57Speaker 1: Candace goes through it.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Another Jewish guy I'm defending.
- 32:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, and nobody pays attention. They're like, no,
- 32:02Speaker 2: she's still hidden.
- 32:03Speaker 1: I've actually petitioned for you to get an award from
- 32:06Speaker 1: several Jewish organizations. ADL. We haven't heard back.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Some people are awarding me.
- 32:08Speaker 1: I don't know. But. When you go through this, what's
- 32:12Speaker 1: interesting is that I'm weirdly Hollywood adjacent. I've done one movie.
- 32:17Speaker 1: It was the worst movie ever, Joker 2. Shout out
- 32:20Speaker 1: to everyone who ruined that. And I said, everyone goes,
- 32:25Speaker 1: are you thinking mad at you for saying how bad
- 32:26Speaker 1: it was? I go, what am I going to do?
- 32:28Speaker 1: I make a living with my fucking mouth. I'm like,
- 32:30Speaker 1: I'm going to lie and go, no, it's great. It's
- 32:33Speaker 1: great that the Joker's doing show tunes. Isn't that what
- 32:35Speaker 1: everyone wants? Isn't that what everyone wants is show tunes?
- 32:40Speaker 1: So I was in one movie, and again, I'm plugged in,
- 32:47Speaker 1: but you from the total outside, this is what's very interesting.
- 32:50Speaker 1: As somebody who's really in the outside, you see things
- 32:53Speaker 1: better in a lot of these situations, than people that
- 32:56Speaker 1: are in it. Because you have this detachment where you
- 32:59Speaker 1: can go, wait a minute, what's going on? Where you're like,
- 33:03Speaker 1: because I just heard, I'm like, oh, I guess there's
- 33:05Speaker 1: some weird, I didn't think he was super guilty, but
- 33:08Speaker 1: I'm like, some weirdness on set, whatever, kind of ignored it,
- 33:11Speaker 1: move on. But you're like, no, no, no, this was
- 33:14Speaker 1: a complete... attempt to destroy this man's life.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad. Put him in the hospital.
- 33:21Speaker 4: And he is the most frustrating person because he never
- 33:26Speaker 4: once fought back for himself.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Like he genuinely.
- 33:29Speaker 1: What do you think that is? Because he's being told
- 33:30Speaker 1: by people just don't say anything.
- 33:31Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
- 33:32Speaker 4: A lot of people, most people I would think in
- 33:35Speaker 4: Hollywood are a lot like Ryan and Blake where they
- 33:38Speaker 4: pretend to be good people by giving money and virtue signaling.
- 33:42Speaker 4: And like I give to this cause, I care about this.
- 33:43Speaker 4: Or like I'm a male feminist and they're not. He
- 33:46Speaker 4: actually is all of those things.
- 33:48Speaker 2: He actually is.
- 33:49Speaker 4: He just takes it from people and I need to
- 33:53Speaker 4: be better and he's constantly hitting himself over the head.
- 33:57Speaker 2: I need to be better. I went through.
- 33:58Speaker 4: His Instagram page and I suffered from PTSD with how
- 34:02Speaker 4: nice he was.
- 34:03Speaker 2: I didn't like it.
- 34:04Speaker 4: It was like, it was like way too nice. You know,
- 34:05Speaker 4: I was just like, just one time stand up for yourself.
- 34:08Speaker 4: And the woman's like, men shouldn't speak.
- 34:10Speaker 2: He's like, you're right.
- 34:11Speaker 3: We just shouldn't.
- 34:12Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, you can speak. And so I
- 34:15Speaker 4: just knew right away. I think I'm a person that
- 34:18Speaker 4: I lived through enough when I was young that I
- 34:20Speaker 4: kind of had to sharpen my Ability to read people
- 34:23Speaker 4: very quickly. You know, like a basic survival skill. So
- 34:26Speaker 4: that's probably more of just the things I saw when
- 34:28Speaker 4: I was little.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Right.
- 34:29Speaker 4: And so I had to wise up real quick. And
- 34:31Speaker 4: I had to read people. And I know how to read.
- 34:33Speaker 4: I think that's my one, like, superhuman skill.
- 34:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Is I'm just like, don't trust that one.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Right.
- 34:37Speaker 2: And Blake Lively, I've just, like, you're best friend to
- 34:39Speaker 2: Taylor Swift.
- 34:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Don't trust that one.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Right.
- 34:41Speaker 4: Like, she's been moving and has gotten away with it
- 34:43Speaker 4: for years.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Right.
- 34:44Speaker 2: Like, victimizing people while pretending she's a victim.
- 34:46Speaker 1: I know things.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Everybody knows things about Taylor Swift.
- 34:49Speaker 1: I will say no things about Taylor Swift. that Taylor
- 34:52Speaker 1: Swift and her mother have left messages on other pop
- 34:56Speaker 1: stars' phones threatening them.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Fully. Everybody knows this. They'll eventually come out.
- 35:02Speaker 4: Come at me.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Come at her. Come at her. Come at him, bro.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Yeah, or her.
- 35:06Speaker 4: Or her.
- 35:06Speaker 1: It's 2025. Come at me, bro.
- 35:07Speaker 2: I don't even care.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Come at Brigitte or Michelle Trognoff.
- 35:11Speaker 2: Or me or Tim.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, but listen, the reality is I heard-
- 35:14Speaker 1: She's vicious.
- 35:15Speaker 2: Vicious.
- 35:15Speaker 3: She is vicious.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Vicious.
- 35:16Speaker 1: Vicious.
- 35:17Speaker 4: And so for Blake and her to be best friends
- 35:19Speaker 4: right away, and I've known Blake, Blake is really just like,
- 35:21Speaker 4: there's just very surface. She's never had to work for
- 35:25Speaker 4: anything in her life. She's not talented. Everything gets handed
- 35:27Speaker 4: to her. And she's quite mean to people. Everyone knows that.
- 35:29Speaker 1: She's that long pattern. She's that long pattern. She played
- 35:30Speaker 1: on Gossip Girl. She is. Yeah.
- 35:31Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. And he's actually Deadpool.
- 35:33Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 35:34Speaker 4: So, you know, I just knew right away that the
- 35:38Speaker 4: power dynamics and the fact that she was, like, trying
- 35:40Speaker 4: to do Me Too, but Me Too was years ago.
- 35:41Speaker 2: She did it, like, a little too late.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Right.
- 35:42Speaker 2: She was coming too late.
- 35:43Speaker 4: She was a little too late to the Me Too party.
- 35:45Speaker 4: She arrived fashionably late to the Me Too party.
- 35:46Speaker 2: But the party was over.
- 35:47Speaker 3: Right.
- 35:48Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 35:49Speaker 4: And I just went, I think I need to hear
- 35:50Speaker 4: a little more here. This isn't, like, it's not passing
- 35:53Speaker 4: the vibe check.
- 35:53Speaker 1: Right.
- 35:54Speaker 4: And then when Brian Friedman, who is like my favorite
- 35:58Speaker 4: person right now, just like said F that, like read
- 36:02Speaker 4: every single text message online.
- 36:05Speaker 2: It was incredible. You got to do it.
- 36:07Speaker 4: You actually have to sit down and do it because
- 36:09Speaker 4: it's very scary. It's like shockingly terrifying that Ryan Reynolds
- 36:15Speaker 4: is just like allowed to be a person in life.
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- 37:31Speaker 1: This is a paid advertisement. Well, here's what's interesting. And
- 37:43Speaker 1: this is what I think is this connective tissue that
- 37:45Speaker 1: you have between a lot of the stories you're doing.
- 37:48Speaker 1: One of the things I think that fascinates you, and
- 37:51Speaker 1: it kind of fascinates me and it's interesting, is what
- 37:55Speaker 1: can you get people to believe? This I feel like,
- 37:59Speaker 1: from consuming some of your content and watching your stuff,
- 38:02Speaker 1: what can you pass yourself off as? What can you
- 38:07Speaker 1: get people to believe? How... because here's what I think,
- 38:11Speaker 1: and you can correct me if I'm wrong, there is
- 38:13Speaker 1: a part of you that obviously we disagree with what
- 38:15Speaker 1: people are doing, but you almost gotta give it to
- 38:17Speaker 1: them in a little bit. You're impressed by the elaborate
- 38:23Speaker 1: hoax and the production value of it, even though it
- 38:27Speaker 1: has gaping holes in it where you go in and go,
- 38:31Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is wrong. But I've always been
- 38:33Speaker 1: amazed at what could get sold and how it's been sold.
- 38:38Speaker 4: There is an IDTV element of it, where you're like,
- 38:42Speaker 4: a crime happened, and this person almost got away with it.
- 38:47Speaker 4: And it was elaborate, and the planning that went into this,
- 38:50Speaker 4: like Ryan Reynolds, the New York Times, sitting down planning this,
- 38:54Speaker 4: how to get someone's cell phone by pretending you have
- 38:56Speaker 4: a different lawsuit.
- 38:57Speaker 2: There's so many elements. I'm like, this is a true
- 39:00Speaker 2: crime story.
- 39:01Speaker 4: And at the same time, this person was just allowed
- 39:03Speaker 4: to exist in the public and pretend to be a
- 39:05Speaker 4: good person because he gave to Amphar and BLM.
- 39:09Speaker 2: There's a psychological element.
- 39:12Speaker 4: And I do think that one of my interests is
- 39:14Speaker 4: like my natural interest is psychology. It's why I'm interested
- 39:17Speaker 4: in all of these psychological programs the government used to run,
- 39:19Speaker 4: like chaos, and how easy it is to socially engineer
- 39:22Speaker 4: a mind.
- 39:23Speaker 2: It's so easy, like our minds are so malleable.
- 39:26Speaker 4: And that's why, even when I have these moments where
- 39:28Speaker 4: I check myself, like the Harvey Weinstein case, because I
- 39:30Speaker 4: thought he was so guilty, it kind of scared me
- 39:32Speaker 4: about myself, because I was like, oh my God, Candace,
- 39:34Speaker 4: you have been so good about making sure that your
- 39:37Speaker 4: mind is not being manipulated, and even you fell for one.
- 39:40Speaker 4: And you were, I was vocally anti-me too. But I
- 39:42Speaker 4: was like, oh yeah, Harvey Weinstein's definitely guilty. That one's,
- 39:44Speaker 4: I don't have a look into that.
- 39:45Speaker 1: I think a lot of people that think they know
- 39:53Speaker 1: a lot. Know very little. And it's very surprising to me.
- 39:57Speaker 1: I've met people that have gone to the best schools
- 40:01Speaker 1: and they have risen to positions of prominence in society.
- 40:06Speaker 1: They're not unintelligent. They're incredibly capable. They're savvy in their
- 40:11Speaker 1: own business. They're tremendously competent. They've made vast sums of money.
- 40:17Speaker 1: They are incredibly, you know, sharp. But if you take
- 40:22Speaker 1: them out of that world and you just ask them
- 40:25Speaker 1: to process some of the things that we've talked about today,
- 40:28Speaker 1: they're at a complete loss.
- 40:30Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 40:31Speaker 2: I think the longer you stay in school, the dumber
- 40:33Speaker 2: you become.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 40:34Speaker 4: I do think that there is a common sense street
- 40:37Speaker 4: element that gets completely lost when you're just trying to
- 40:41Speaker 4: add a bunch of degrees to your life and certifications.
- 40:43Speaker 4: And that's why when we get into this expert problem
- 40:46Speaker 4: where they just were like.
- 40:48Speaker 2: I don't know how I got it wrong on COVID.
- 40:51Speaker 4: And then there was this clip of Andrew Tate speaking
- 40:55Speaker 4: about COVID where he's like, if you're on the block
- 40:58Speaker 4: and somebody comes up to you and they're like, eat
- 41:00Speaker 4: this cheeseburger. I just really want you to eat this cheeseburger.
- 41:01Speaker 4: You just instinctively know Like, I'm good. You're trying real
- 41:06Speaker 4: hard to get me in in a way that's like,
- 41:08Speaker 4: it's free, just take it, it's free. And what he's
- 41:11Speaker 4: speaking to is street smarts. And that gets lost when
- 41:13Speaker 4: you're just kind of off the streets and in the academia.
- 41:17Speaker 2: And you see that a lot.
- 41:18Speaker 4: And the experts just kind of keep getting it wrong
- 41:21Speaker 4: because they're missing that common sense element. And you realize
- 41:24Speaker 4: that if you want to trick an expert, just put
- 41:26Speaker 4: it in an expert book. Like, they wake up every day.
- 41:30Speaker 4: And they're like, well, the New York Times couldn't possibly
- 41:32Speaker 4: lie to me. And I've read the article in the
- 41:34Speaker 4: New York Times. The New York Times says that Justin
- 41:37Speaker 4: Baldoni is basically akin to a rapist.
- 41:40Speaker 2: So I'm just, obviously it's true.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Or give them a big bag of money. Giving a
- 41:43Speaker 1: big bag of money tends to work too.
- 41:45Speaker 2: That also is.
- 41:46Speaker 1: A nice expert book and a big bag of money works.
- 41:49Speaker 1: And listen, there are obviously people in society that know
- 41:52Speaker 1: more about things than other people. There are people that
- 41:55Speaker 1: are trained in a degree in a field, but then
- 41:58Speaker 1: there's also a lot of people that are bought, are
- 42:02Speaker 1: being controlled.
- 42:03Speaker 2: I'm in politics, yeah.
- 42:04Speaker 1: I know.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
- 42:05Speaker 4: I've seen it over and over again.
- 42:07Speaker 2: It's sad to.
- 42:07Speaker 4: Watch, too, because they don't start like that. I've been
- 42:11Speaker 4: with people and come up in politics with them, and
- 42:13Speaker 4: they're great, and they're motivated by all the right things,
- 42:15Speaker 4: and then I think what happens is you don't realize,
- 42:19Speaker 4: you become a part of a certain class, and you
- 42:21Speaker 4: feel like you can't go against it. There's the cult
- 42:23Speaker 4: of politics that happens, and they won't critique certain things
- 42:27Speaker 4: that they know to be wrong.
- 42:29Speaker 2: Which is crazy to me. Because.
- 42:32Speaker 1: What do you say to people that go, Candace Owens,
- 42:35Speaker 1: rabidly anti-Semitic, sees Jewish conspiracy theories everywhere. There is that narrative.
- 42:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 42:44Speaker 2: I think we could.
- 42:46Speaker 4: The whole idea that anti-Semitism is on the rise, my
- 42:49Speaker 4: basic PR advice would just be maybe stop.
- 42:54Speaker 4: Blowing up children, Bibi Netanyahu, and see if it decreases.
- 42:58Speaker 4: I'm not an expert.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Not helping.
- 43:00Speaker 2: I'm not an expert.
- 43:01Speaker 1: Certainly not helping.
- 43:01Speaker 4: But I do think that where you think you see anti-Semitism,
- 43:04Speaker 4: it may just be a humane response to children being
- 43:07Speaker 4: blown up for like two years straight.
- 43:11Speaker 1: There should be a way to acknowledge that there's a
- 43:17Speaker 1: human toll of that war that is, you know, I
- 43:20Speaker 1: think is becoming.
- 43:22Speaker 2: I'm not an expert.
- 43:23Speaker 1: No, of course not. But I mean, listen, at the
- 43:25Speaker 1: end of the day, I think the vast majority of
- 43:30Speaker 1: people look at that situation and say, this is terrible.
- 43:35Speaker 1: It's unsustainable. We're supporting it. We're funding it. It needs
- 43:39Speaker 1: to end. Right. And, you know, some people have caught
- 43:43Speaker 1: more flack, more flack than others for saying it. There's
- 43:47Speaker 1: clearly anti-Semites. There's clearly people that believe... whatever, the Holocaust denial, whatever.
- 43:53Speaker 1: There's clearly people on that side of the spectrum. But
- 43:55Speaker 1: there are also people that are pointing out, you know,
- 43:59Speaker 1: a very real problem with, like you said, the massive infanticide.
- 44:04Speaker 2: That was my crime.
- 44:05Speaker 4: I mean, there's no way that you're trying to sell
- 44:07Speaker 4: right now that I'm trying to free Harvey Weinstein, who
- 44:09Speaker 4: gave more money to the ADL, who has me on
- 44:11Speaker 4: a list, by the way, you know, while he was alive.
- 44:14Speaker 4: Every Jewish cause he's given money to. And Steve Sarowitz
- 44:18Speaker 4: and Justin Baldon. These are all Ashkenazi Jews. They leave
- 44:21Speaker 4: all that off the table because they're trying to conflate critique.
- 44:25Speaker 2: Of Israel with just being Jewish, which is absurd. And
- 44:29Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It's just stupid.
- 44:30Speaker 4: I'm over it. I don't care anymore. I don't even
- 44:32Speaker 4: defend myself against it because it's just so overdone. We
- 44:34Speaker 4: were like that place when BLM just went too far
- 44:37Speaker 4: and everything was racist.
- 44:39Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing. It's just boring. I think
- 44:40Speaker 1: in the beginning, a lot of people were like, yes,
- 44:43Speaker 1: let's look at the way police behave.
- 44:46Speaker 3: Right.
- 44:47Speaker 1: And let's look at the way they behave in minority communities.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Let's look at the way they behave across the board.
- 44:54Speaker 1: We're a free country. We have a Second Amendment. We
- 44:57Speaker 1: have people that have guns, are free, have autonomy. And
- 45:04Speaker 1: police are going to have to also understand how to
- 45:07Speaker 1: treat people that are Americans, right? So I think a
- 45:10Speaker 1: lot of people are like, let's take a look at
- 45:12Speaker 1: all of that. And then it went so overboard. It
- 45:15Speaker 1: went to defund, it went to abolish.
- 45:17Speaker 4: Then it was suddenly like, if you're white and you
- 45:19Speaker 4: wear your hair and braids, apologize. And people are like,
- 45:21Speaker 4: you know what, I'm done. And we're now at hair
- 45:24Speaker 4: and braids, apologize on the Ed Simonson thing. And everyone's
- 45:26Speaker 4: just kind of done with it. And no one cares.
- 45:29Speaker 4: And I certainly want to be clear. I literally don't
- 45:32Speaker 4: care if you are going to call me anti-Semite because
- 45:34Speaker 4: I've noticed a lot of kids are getting blown up.
- 45:36Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
- 45:37Speaker 4: But there's also an entitlement that I've been trying to
- 45:40Speaker 4: comprehend lately. because there are people who think that if
- 45:44Speaker 4: you get called a name because you're Jewish, it's somehow like,
- 45:49Speaker 4: is this your first day on the internet? As soon
- 45:51Speaker 4: as you are on the internet, when they figure out
- 45:52Speaker 4: what you are, you're gonna get called the thing. Like,
- 45:54Speaker 4: every day I wake up, I log into Twitter, and
- 45:56Speaker 4: I'm called the N-word. Like, that's just like, I've just
- 45:58Speaker 4: come to, like, that just has to happen because that's
- 45:59Speaker 4: how the internet works.
- 46:01Speaker 2: And there are some people that are so fragile.
- 46:02Speaker 4: That, like, and when I say some people, I mean
- 46:05Speaker 4: quite literally people that have texted me a screenshot of
- 46:07Speaker 4: a troll account Being like, look what this person said
- 46:10Speaker 4: about juice.
- 46:11Speaker 3: Right.
- 46:11Speaker 2: You're a 45-year-old man. Right. Who runs a satire business, Seth.
- 46:18Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
- 46:19Speaker 2: What are you, like, what is this? Have you never,
- 46:20Speaker 2: is this your first day on the internet? Do you
- 46:21Speaker 2: know how many times I've been called?
- 46:23Speaker 3: Yes.
- 46:24Speaker 2: If you can't deal with that, you gotta log off.
- 46:26Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 46:26Speaker 1: The internet is the internet.
- 46:28Speaker 2: The internet is the internet. It's a place for trolling.
- 46:30Speaker 4: They want to find out what is your attribute so
- 46:32Speaker 4: I can call you the thing, right?
- 46:33Speaker 1: Right.
- 46:34Speaker 4: And this starts when kids are playing Game Boys and
- 46:36Speaker 4: there's a little chat.
- 46:37Speaker 2: I mean, What's that game where there's the.
- 46:40Speaker 1: Well, it's a ton of them. Fortnite, does any of that, right?
- 46:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't game, but they read
- 46:44Speaker 2: the chats.
- 46:45Speaker 1: They're insane.
- 46:46Speaker 2: That's the internet, right?
- 46:47Speaker 4: And so they have to kind of know the difference between, well,
- 46:52Speaker 4: I've never seen so many people saying names. Jordan Peterson
- 46:54Speaker 4: has taken this stance, too.
- 46:56Speaker 2: And I'm like, is this everybody's first time?
- 46:57Speaker 1: Wait, he's against name-calling now?
- 46:59Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Are you kidding me?
- 47:00Speaker 4: He's like, I think truly... Trolls have broken a lot
- 47:05Speaker 4: of people. And maybe they're too old.
- 47:08Speaker 2: To be on the internet. I don't know what it is.
- 47:09Speaker 4: Just log off for a little bit. Smell some fresh air.
- 47:12Speaker 4: It's not real life. The internet is not real life.
- 47:15Speaker 4: I mean, could you imagine me?
- 47:16Speaker 1: I bet some of those children in Gaza would love
- 47:19Speaker 1: to be called a name. Right?
- 47:20Speaker 2: If that's all they had to deal with. And they're
- 47:21Speaker 2: acting like every day they're dealing with, like.
- 47:25Speaker 4: I've survived slavery. I'm Harriet Tubman. I've escaped to the
- 47:28Speaker 4: north because I'm... I responded to a troll. I survived
- 47:32Speaker 4: an internet holocaust. Dude, just log off. If you are
- 47:35Speaker 4: that rattled, block or log off.
- 47:38Speaker 2: Take a beat.
- 47:41Speaker 1: I had a war with the Red Mango Frozen Yogurt.
- 47:43Speaker 1: It got very intense. Was this a troll, Red Mango?
- 47:48Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 47:48Speaker 1: This is a real frozen yogurt company.
- 47:51Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about the actual Red Mango.
- 47:52Speaker 1: Yeah, we just started attacking. I don't know how it happened,
- 47:56Speaker 1: but we both were not at our best.
- 47:57Speaker 3: You weren't.
- 48:00Speaker 4: Have you thought about writing a book about this? Because
- 48:03Speaker 4: I think you could help people. Yeah.
- 48:07Speaker 1: Sometimes you've got to just move on.
- 48:09Speaker 2: Red Mango.
- 48:09Speaker 1: You've got to just move on.
- 48:10Speaker 4: Red Mango versus Tim. By the way, I would read this.
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- 50:48Speaker 1: Are we going to war with Iran? Let's hope not.
- 50:50Speaker 2: I think we are.
- 50:50Speaker 1: I think we are too.
- 50:52Speaker 2: Never not seen Bibi Netanyahu get what he wants.
- 50:55Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. Like everybody's like, everyone's like, I don't know.
- 50:59Speaker 1: There's this weird, like, I, you know, I explained this
- 51:03Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, I ran this
- 51:06Speaker 1: like boogeyman that I've heard about since I'm nine. And
- 51:10Speaker 1: me and my friend are always like, when you take hostages,
- 51:12Speaker 1: like I ran did in the eighties or whatever, You're
- 51:15Speaker 1: just on the list forever. And everyone talks about going
- 51:18Speaker 1: to Iran. Now, we've done this. We've seen this movie.
- 51:21Speaker 1: We know what happens when we put Western troops in
- 51:24Speaker 1: a Muslim country. We decapitate the leadership. We install a
- 51:28Speaker 1: new government. We know what happens. This isn't like a
- 51:32Speaker 1: mysterious thing. Like, what's going to happen? How will this work?
- 51:36Speaker 1: We know what's going to happen. And we still seem
- 51:39Speaker 1: to be marching towards it. And I almost wonder if
- 51:42Speaker 1: some of this Defense Department stuff that's happening... And maybe
- 51:46Speaker 1: Pete Egg said he's having a cocktail every now and then.
- 51:48Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a possibility. But there's also a
- 51:53Speaker 1: possibility that there's a lot of people that there's some
- 51:56Speaker 1: turmoil because people want to move in the direction of
- 52:02Speaker 1: war with Iran.
- 52:03Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, like, I don't have a crystal ball.
- 52:05Speaker 4: How have I been saying to my audiences for three
- 52:08Speaker 4: years that we're going to war with Iran?
- 52:09Speaker 2: Right, right. I don't have crystal ball.
- 52:11Speaker 4: How did I know all of these things that were
- 52:12Speaker 4: going to happen when I was talking about what was
- 52:14Speaker 4: going to happen with Zelensky?
- 52:16Speaker 2: Guys, the media, it's all so farcical. It's just pretending.
- 52:21Speaker 4: All you have to do is pay attention to what
- 52:24Speaker 4: Bibi Netanyahu said. He's been like literally he said Libya.
- 52:28Speaker 4: He said Syria. He said Iraq. He said Iran.
- 52:32Speaker 2: The footage is on the Internet.
- 52:34Speaker 4: And when people ask him about America, he's on camera
- 52:37Speaker 4: saying America is something that can be easily manipulated.
- 52:40Speaker 1: Right.
- 52:40Speaker 2: We're going to get what we want. All of it's there.
- 52:43Speaker 4: Why are we in the Middle East? In case you
- 52:45Speaker 4: didn't know this, you may not be the best geography.
- 52:47Speaker 4: I'm not the best geography. But America, the United States
- 52:50Speaker 4: of America is not located in the Middle East. So
- 52:52Speaker 4: it's kind of weird that we just keep having nonstop
- 52:55Speaker 4: beef in the Middle East, right?
- 52:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 52:58Speaker 1: A lot of it's oil, probably, right?
- 53:00Speaker 2: But that's the whole point.
- 53:01Speaker 1: For sure.
- 53:01Speaker 2: So all of us pretending like there's weapons of mass destruction.
- 53:04Speaker 3: Right.
- 53:05Speaker 2: It's about regionally.
- 53:07Speaker 4: Israel wants to expand its interest and its power in
- 53:09Speaker 4: the region. Truthfully, we have been in bed with Israel
- 53:13Speaker 4: since its creation in 1948 and really proliferated that after
- 53:18Speaker 4: JFK mysteriously got shot and we're not allowed to know
- 53:21Speaker 4: anything more about that, just accept the narrative, whatever. We
- 53:25Speaker 4: increased our relationship like LBJ did that. All of that,
- 53:28Speaker 4: and when you speak about this real history and show
- 53:31Speaker 4: Like Israel said, LBJ was the greatest friend. Okay, well,
- 53:33Speaker 4: that's weird because JFK was arguing with Israel leading up
- 53:38Speaker 4: to his death. Him and Prime Minister Ben-Gurion were arguing
- 53:42Speaker 4: every day on the phone, still not declassified. He didn't
- 53:44Speaker 4: want them to go nuclear. He was trying to stop
- 53:47Speaker 4: them from getting weapons. And then all of a sudden,
- 53:50Speaker 4: the guy under him in command does a complete 180
- 53:52Speaker 4: once he gets shot. It's problematic that we can't have
- 53:56Speaker 4: these discussions, but it's actually the most crucial thing. And
- 53:59Speaker 4: this is why Dave Smith gets completely pilloried, because he's
- 54:02Speaker 4: willing to talk about this unhealthy relationship and attachment that
- 54:05Speaker 4: we have with Israel. I don't view the CIA and
- 54:07Speaker 4: the Mossad as different organizations, and neither should you, by
- 54:10Speaker 4: the way. Like, you know, they are fundamentally the same
- 54:14Speaker 4: deep state that I think I've been working hand.
- 54:16Speaker 1: In hand for a very long time. A lot of
- 54:17Speaker 1: the interests overlap often, right? Always.
- 54:20Speaker 2: When have they not overlapped?
- 54:21Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think the Saudis complicate the picture slightly. Right.
- 54:26Speaker 1: They complicate it slightly, but I would say that there's
- 54:28Speaker 1: almost always overlapping interests, right? The Saudis complicate it a bit,
- 54:35Speaker 1: but it does seem like there is kind of a
- 54:41Speaker 1: movement now in America to basically try to understand more
- 54:47Speaker 1: about the dynamics that... enables certain decisions, I think, you know?
- 54:54Speaker 4: And there should be, because it's your, the thing is,
- 54:56Speaker 4: Israel is, as they always say, we're just a tiny country,
- 54:59Speaker 4: the size of New Jersey, and it's like, okay, that's
- 55:00Speaker 4: not like a thing that you should be counting in
- 55:02Speaker 4: your favor. Why are you causing so much crap, you
- 55:03Speaker 4: know what I mean? So they need bodies, they need
- 55:07Speaker 4: more bodies, and that's what I try to wake people
- 55:09Speaker 4: up to, it's like, The reason why you have to
- 55:11Speaker 4: critique this country is because when they want.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Well, there's also people in Israel that critique it as well.
- 55:15Speaker 2: More than any. I read Haaretz every day. They are
- 55:18Speaker 2: marching in the streets. They don't want this war. It's
- 55:21Speaker 2: not Israelis. We're talking about governments.
- 55:23Speaker 1: Our government sucks. We're talking about governments, intelligence agencies. I
- 55:26Speaker 1: think there's a lot to be said for the people.
- 55:29Speaker 1: A lot of them in Israel who are going, we
- 55:31Speaker 1: think Bibi Netanyahu is corrupt.
- 55:33Speaker 2: He's facing corruption trials right now.
- 55:35Speaker 1: We don't want to expand the borders of this country.
- 55:37Speaker 1: And the people of Israel are suffering. And Jewish people.
- 55:42Speaker 1: around the world are potentially suffering because of these actions.
- 55:45Speaker 4: Because of the unnecessary conflation. Like, a Jewish leader, you
- 55:47Speaker 4: have nothing to do with this. There's no reason why
- 55:48Speaker 4: you have to defend anything he's doing. This is a
- 55:50Speaker 4: random country in the Middle East, and I know there's
- 55:52Speaker 4: been a lot of people, and I call this, it's
- 55:55Speaker 4: the same conditioning that black people face in the classroom. Like,
- 55:57Speaker 4: if you want to know why black people wanted to
- 55:59Speaker 4: jump and support BLM, really without even thinking, is because
- 56:03Speaker 4: they have been raised to understand that there's this existential crisis.
- 56:07Speaker 4: Like being black, you're automatically a victim. And that happens
- 56:10Speaker 4: because of public schooling. We learn so much about slavery.
- 56:12Speaker 4: They imprint that in our mind as we're growing up.
- 56:16Speaker 4: So then when somebody says, oh, my gosh, like George Floyd,
- 56:19Speaker 4: you better get out there, black people instinctually do that.
- 56:21Speaker 4: And so I understand very much why Jewish Americans after
- 56:24Speaker 4: October 7th felt the way that they felt, because in
- 56:27Speaker 4: that same way, the imprint for them is the Holocaust, right?
- 56:30Speaker 4: We learned so much about that in school. There's so
- 56:32Speaker 4: many movies about it. Same for slavery, so many movies
- 56:34Speaker 4: about it in Hollywood.
- 56:35Speaker 1: And it's understandable that seeing anybody get dragged from a
- 56:39Speaker 1: rave into a tunnel is a crazy, horrible thing that
- 56:42Speaker 1: everybody condemns and.
- 56:44Speaker 2: Says is a horrible thing.
- 56:46Speaker 1: 100%.
- 56:46Speaker 4: And you always get the initial reaction. And so I
- 56:49Speaker 4: completely forgive and excuse that. And there's no one that
- 56:52Speaker 4: I would say.
- 56:52Speaker 1: And after 9-11, this country went around and did a
- 56:55Speaker 1: lot of things that I don't think made us safer.
- 56:58Speaker 1: And in fact... put us in a bad position financially.
- 57:02Speaker 2: And we gave up our freedoms to do that.
- 57:03Speaker 1: We tortured a lot of people that were innocent. We
- 57:05Speaker 1: killed a lot of people that were innocent.
- 57:07Speaker 2: We have to take our belts off at TSA now.
- 57:09Speaker 1: We have to take our belts off at TSA.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Our shoes off. All of that stuff. And we're innocent.
- 57:12Speaker 1: And we didn't do anything.
- 57:13Speaker 2: We didn't do anything. And now we get treated like criminals.
- 57:14Speaker 1: A lot of soldiers gave their lives. So I think
- 57:22Speaker 1: there's an understandable rage and reaction that people have. But
- 57:27Speaker 1: from our own history, you can see that it did
- 57:29Speaker 1: go too far.
- 57:30Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we're doing now.
- 57:31Speaker 4: We now have the first time as Generation 9-11, as
- 57:33Speaker 4: I refer myself to, to slow things down after a
- 57:36Speaker 4: big event happens and to, before we get ourselves in
- 57:39Speaker 4: those circumstances again, we can slow down and go, what
- 57:41Speaker 4: are we actually doing here?
- 57:42Speaker 2: Who actually benefits? Nothing made sense after 9-11. We were told.
- 57:45Speaker 4: that Saudis were on the plane, and we didn't go
- 57:47Speaker 4: to war with Saudi Arabia, we then went to war
- 57:49Speaker 4: with Iraq.
- 57:50Speaker 1: Because we were told, yeah.
- 57:52Speaker 4: And weapons of mass destruction, they never found weapons of
- 57:53Speaker 4: mass destruction, then we went into Afghanistan, nothing made sense,
- 57:56Speaker 4: and so what this actually was, was we were gonna
- 57:58Speaker 4: go to war no matter what, they needed to justify,
- 58:00Speaker 4: they need the public to get on their side about it,
- 58:02Speaker 4: and that's how I feel about what's happening right now,
- 58:04Speaker 4: is that war with Iran has already been decided upon.
- 58:06Speaker 2: And they're just playing a game. Where is Trump in this?
- 58:08Speaker 1: Where is the Trump administration?
- 58:09Speaker 4: I mean, my understanding is that Trump would like a
- 58:12Speaker 4: diplomatic resolution, but the neocons want war. And unfortunately, there's
- 58:16Speaker 4: a lot of neocons in Trump's cabinet. And I think
- 58:19Speaker 4: that's when you're speaking about that push-pull and what's going
- 58:20Speaker 4: on with Pete Hegseth. And what's happening is that there
- 58:24Speaker 4: are people who are genuinely, I mean, from what we heard,
- 58:27Speaker 4: Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Hegseth. And there was one other
- 58:31Speaker 4: person who stopped us from attacking Iran or whatever it was.
- 58:36Speaker 4: They are the reason that we're not at war with
- 58:37Speaker 4: Iran today. But everyone else wants to go to war
- 58:40Speaker 4: because it's already been decided upon. And so you have
- 58:42Speaker 4: to kind of wake up the American people. When I
- 58:44Speaker 4: say American, I'm talking Jewish American. Just American, guys. Stop
- 58:48Speaker 4: seeing yourself as black, white, Jewish. Like, we need to
- 58:51Speaker 4: recognize what's happening here because very few people benefit.
- 58:54Speaker 2: From this perpetual state of war.
- 58:56Speaker 4: Whether we're talking about Ukraine, Israel, very few people at
- 58:59Speaker 4: the tippity-top are actually benefiting from the war machine.
- 59:03Speaker 2: And it's not you and me.
- 59:06Speaker 1: It's something that I woke up to. We're maybe similar. ages.
- 59:10Speaker 1: I'm 40. I don't know. I don't know if you're
- 59:12Speaker 1: talking about your age. You don't have to.
- 59:13Speaker 2: I talk about my age. I'm 35.
- 59:14Speaker 1: Okay.
- 59:15Speaker 4: But my birthday's on Tuesday, so I want you to
- 59:17Speaker 4: make sure you get me something.
- 59:18Speaker 1: Happy birthday. I absolutely will.
- 59:19Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
- 59:19Speaker 3: I absolutely will.
- 59:21Speaker 1: Get her a subscription to the free press.
- 59:24Speaker 2: Very wise. Now- Don't even get me started.
- 59:27Speaker 1: Did she tweet my special? I tell Barry, I go,
- 59:29Speaker 1: if you want me to support whatever you're doing over there,
- 59:32Speaker 1: I need more than a free tote bag. I like Barry.
- 59:34Speaker 1: But I said, I want to read her article. She
- 59:35Speaker 1: gave me a free subscription to the free press. Her
- 59:37Speaker 1: article wasn't included.
- 59:38Speaker 3: I had to upgrade.
- 59:39Speaker 1: So I'm just saying. That answers just what it is.
- 59:45Speaker 1: But here's what I'll say. We learned this. We watched
- 59:49Speaker 1: our friends go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq and die.
- 59:53Speaker 1: And we watched. A lot of people who watched at
- 59:56Speaker 1: 10 counties around Washington, D.C. become the wealthiest counties in America.
- 59:59Speaker 1: They don't have significant natural beauty. They don't have tons
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: of resources. It wasn't the location of Wall Street or
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: Hollywood or the country music capital. It wasn't any of that.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: It was just, you know, kind of humdrum, plain Jane
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: suburbs that surrounded this nucleus of power. You know, McLean, Virginia, Langley, Virginia. Why?
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: Why are they so rich? Right. So they got really
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: rich and veterans came back and had no health care.
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: Veterans came back and their suicide rates were off the charts.
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: Veterans came back and couldn't get housing. They were ignored.
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: They were put on ice. And then we watched tons
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: of people that worked in military adjacent fields, the defense industry,
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: things like that, become incredibly wealthy. Mm-hmm. And that to me,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: I feel like was a lesson that a lot of
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: people in my generation learned.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: And our generation did learn that.
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: And that's why we're vocal. A lot of people are
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: unlearning it.
- 1:00:59Speaker 4: And for the first time, and I'm very optimistic about
- 1:01:01Speaker 4: it because obviously I wouldn't have a platform if what
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: I was saying, if the press was to be believed,
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: I wouldn't have a platform. I mean, they've called me
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: every name possible in the book. Gone after my family.
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: Gone after my job. Gone after my career. But at
- 1:01:13Speaker 4: the end of the day, my sons are not going
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: to grow up and fight in your shitty little war.
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: And that's where I'm at. I'm on some mom stuff
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: right now. And you're not going to mess with the
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: mama bear, okay? I'm going to speak the truth unapologetically.
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: I don't really care about your feelings. I don't really
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: care about a mean tweet from Meghan McCain. And I
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: understand why she loves war. She's one of the great,
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: her family's one of the benefactors of war.
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: I get it. I get the neocon class.
- 1:01:34Speaker 4: You guys are rich because people in the South who
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: are poor, our.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: Sons are dying in your wars.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: I get it.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: I really do. But you make me sick.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: I dressed up as her years ago and she still
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: holds it against me.
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: She, I'm not kidding, her and Ben Dominick, I sent
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: one tweet and it's been seven years or four years
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: and she hasn't let it go. I mean, it was
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: a really like, you know, honest tweet that I put
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: out that was offending Joe Rogan when she was saying like,
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: you know, during COVID when like suddenly- it was like
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: the revenge of people who never took care of their
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: health and they like got the vaccine and then were like,
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: you don't.
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: Care about health.
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: And she like went after Joe Rogan and she's like,
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: Joe Rogan's an idiot.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: He doesn't care about health. And I was like, no
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: one should be listening to Meghan McCain. She never let
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: it go.
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: No.
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: People get in their feelings and stay there. Yeah.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: I want to be forgiven.
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: I mean, so many people that just don't like me.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean, this is part of the thing.
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- 1:02:30Speaker 2: But I'm real sad.
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- 1:04:07Speaker 1: What I find fun about a lot of this stuff,
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: you know, when you're talking about these things, um, You
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: enjoy what you do.
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: You like what you do. I really do. I like
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: what I do.
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: I sleep at night knowing that I'm saying something that
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: I actually believe.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: You're not afraid of people you disagree with. I don't
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: think you strike me as someone who needs to be
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: siloed in a thing where they never engage with. You
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: seem to engage with a fair amount of people who
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: disagree with you.
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: I love it. You don't mind it. I want to
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: have my mind changed. I don't want to be in
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: a box.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: Hearing myself speak.
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: This is why I love even what I do now,
- 1:04:43Speaker 4: because I tell people to be a part of the
- 1:04:44Speaker 4: investigation and they send me things. And I love that
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: my platform now has so many people that were on
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: the left before I was at the Daily Wire. It
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: was really kind of exclusively conservative. And now it seems
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: since I'm, I guess I'm giving more of just me.
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: There's also multitudes. Everyone contains multitudes. There's people that are,
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: you know, I think people called me liberal friends that
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: I have. I, you know, live in New York. I
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: lived in LA. A lot of my friends are, uh, liberal.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: Most of them are wealthy. I spend most of the
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: time with people who I'm, whom I use for things.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: And a lot of them happen to be liberal, you know,
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: and I tolerate their personalities because of the homes they have.
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: The boats.
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: You gotta, you know what I mean?
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: You gotta get out to Montauk in the summer.
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. I'm going to tolerate this for nothing
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: let's get on a boat tell me about it on
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: a boat tell me about the non-binary kid on a boat.
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: Now it's so much more understandable on a yacht you
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: can't even hear.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this I love my liberal friends
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: I love my conservative friends I'm like in this weird
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: miasma in the middle I don't know what I am
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: I believe in you know I believe in pedophile cults
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: and lizard people I think I'm a centrist that's centrist
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: now So that was a big tweet I had many
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: years ago. But I think that you have a lot
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: of liberals calling me going, Candace Owens. I'm fucking listening
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: to Candace Owens. They go, you know, she made all
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: these points about this thing. And they're going, because I
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: think a lot of people are sleepwalking. And it's not
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: always their fault. They got kids and did this and
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: did that. And they got a job. And they're like,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: they're just, you know, they're getting battered. Like when you're
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: landing in a plane. and it's turbulent and you're just
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: getting battered and you're getting hit. I think that's why
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: a lot of people are in life with so many
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: responsibilities and things, and they're getting battered by information. This
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: guy's bad, this one's good, this is a rapist, this
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: is the president of France. He got engaged to this woman,
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: she was 40 and he was 14, but it was sweet.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: That one was sweet. This guy was a Hollywood movie producer,
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: he's the devil. And I think people just go, okay, sure, what, left, right,
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: you know? And what I think you've done is kind
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: of reset the table a little bit.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've also just put them in the pilot seat.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: That's the thing.
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: When you're on autopilot like that, who's actually driving this car?
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: And I think it's been good that the trust in
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: the media has been fractured. That had to happen first.
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: And so much credit, by the way, is very much
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: due to Johnny Depp for that. That was a moment,
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: I think, because people really got to see up close
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: how easily the press could just turn someone into a
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: villain or a victim. Or at least I think that
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: really mattered for a lot of the women that were
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: on the left because they were really vocal about Me Too.
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: And so we're kind of at this interesting moment where
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: they don't necessarily believe the media anymore.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: And also the biggest contributor thereafter was COVID.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: Like some people rerouted their entire lives, became like COVID Nazis,
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: ended friendships only to find out that they were being
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: lied to and they thought they were, they really trusted
- 1:07:47Speaker 4: the media.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: They trusted the experts.
- 1:07:49Speaker 4: And so the thing about being a liar is that
- 1:07:52Speaker 4: once you are exposed as a liar, you can't then
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: just be like, just kidding.
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: Like right now, now I'm back.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: To being a truth teller.
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: And that was, so for me, I know your grandma
- 1:08:01Speaker 4: died alone, but I was just, that was, that's the
- 1:08:03Speaker 4: old me.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: This is the new me.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: It was the nine 11 response and all of that. We,
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: our generation didn't, didn't ever trust the government the same
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: way again after that after weapons of mass destruction dick
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: cheney and this that the other thing and then i
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: think for a lot of people growing up was covid
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: and you know i think i think it's it's about
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: trying to you know retain a sense of because there
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: is a lot of information i think it melts people's
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: minds so i think it's about like you know, kind
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: of trying to stay sane while processing a lot of this.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: Yeah, and you go through that.
- 1:08:41Speaker 4: You go through a period of cognitive dissonance once you
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: accept everything as it is, and then suddenly you're like, whoa,
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: what is going on?
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: You do have to suffer that.
- 1:08:49Speaker 4: Like, you do have to recognize that it is plausible
- 1:08:52Speaker 4: that everything that you thought was wasn't.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: I went through that phase.
- 1:08:55Speaker 4: Fortunately, it was before I had a platform when I
- 1:08:57Speaker 4: kind of was like, wow, I really believed the Wall
- 1:09:00Speaker 4: Street Journal. I mean, I really believed the New York Times.
- 1:09:03Speaker 4: I really believed the Washington Post. And suddenly I realized
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: that these people are all working for somebody.
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: Once you get through that and you have enough humility
- 1:09:11Speaker 4: to admit that you're wrong, and a lot of people
- 1:09:13Speaker 4: don't possess this, but you are all capable of being wrong,
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: and it's good to just get through that process very quickly.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: And then judge things on its merits.
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: And then you actually feel more confident because you start
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: investigating things yourself. You're going, okay, I hear what you're saying,
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: but I also want to hear the other side of
- 1:09:29Speaker 4: what the other people are saying. And then I want
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: to do my own research and figure out what's actually
- 1:09:34Speaker 4: right and what's actually wrong. And I think that's why...
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: We are starting to see a lot of people come
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: to the center, and I love it. I think it
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: is really great that people are coming more.
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: To the center.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: And I think people are looking, nuances coming back. Complexity.
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: Did you really believe that I was anti-black? I used
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: to read my Wikipedia page, and it was amazing.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: I was horrified. I was like, oh my God, I
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: would never sit with this girl.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: We had you on in 2020. We had you on
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: in 2020. I had you on my podcast in 2020.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: People were angry at you.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: People got really angry with me, and I said we
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: wanted to platform you. a marginalized woman of color, and
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: then it was Candace Allen. I thought, fun bit, and
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: fun bit, and Candace came on and was great, and
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: then people got really tight, and people were like, I
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: cannot believe that. I was like, I don't know, man.
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: I was called anti-black. We were in a weird time.
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't, I don't see the
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: value in not engaging people. with people and I think
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: that that I felt like we put that aside after
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: this period of insanity this moral panic that we were
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: in and I think a lot of people and that
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're going to agree with everybody on everything
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: you won't people are individuals but I do think that
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: you are going to be more open to certain things
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: than you were and I think it's not going to
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: be as easy people aren't lining up on the left
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: or the right as neatly as they did.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: You know?
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: And the people that are in power don't like that.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: They don't like that.
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: Because it used to be very easy.
- 1:11:10Speaker 4: I mean, the amount of hit pieces that have been
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: written about me this year, it's insane. I've just been
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: literally pregnant in my basement. I don't know what is happening.
- 1:11:16Speaker 4: But they're worrying about that because they need to keep
- 1:11:18Speaker 4: us warm with one another. And when they start to
- 1:11:20Speaker 4: see that people are opening themselves to at least listening,
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: this is why they're so angry about Joe Rogan.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: Theo Vaughn. You put Theo Vaughn on your list.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: Of– Well, I've done all these things to promote my
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: special and CNN and Fox and all these places have
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: asked me– Do you guys consider yourselves a new establishment?
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right. So 19 intelligence agencies, the
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: full force of the federal government, the wall street journal,
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: the Washington post, the New York times, Harvard, Yale, Princeton,
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: all the Ivy league schools, the council on foreign relations.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: All of these different organizations, public, private, all these groups
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: versus four podcasters?
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: No.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: I don't think we're the new establishment. I think that's
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: a very silly way to put it. I think you
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: ran an unpopular candidate on a platform that America didn't
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: want child sex changes and an open border. And you
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: went hard on those issues and you wouldn't move an
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: inch on open border and child sex changes. And I
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: think Americans rendered a verdict on that. I don't think
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: it was. And you also tried to run a dead
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: guy and then replace him with an unpopular vice president
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: who like no one, like we didn't even know. And
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: she ran on a platform of joy. So you could
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: blame it on the Yvonne and Joe Rogan or Andrew Schultz.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: You can blame it on anyone you want. I had
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: the VP. Nobody blames it on me. I advanced. No
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: one cared. Like I read all the articles. I'm like, yeah,
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: they're going to. And they're all like, it's never me.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: I'm like, but I advanced. But no one cared. But
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: it's never me. I never get the flag. It's always
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: everyone else.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: They're going to come for you now.
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. But this is a morning show.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: I do think if it was a sane country, we
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: would have a morning show.
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: I agree.
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: I don't know who we need to pitch this to.
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: But this works for America.
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: Candace and Tim.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: That's right. I'll do that. I'll do that, absolutely. I'm
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: telling you, The only person we need to pitch it to,
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: and his name is Harvey Weinstein.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein wants to get him out of prison. I mean,
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: that guy, you give him credit. Every amazing movie.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: If he gets out of prison, this show's a reality.
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a reality.
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: Candace Owens, everyone, where can they find you?
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: Everywhere, honestly.
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: I'm going on maternity leave. I'm about to drop a
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: baby in a week. But after that, my YouTube. You
- 1:13:25Speaker 4: find me on Spotify, Apple, YouTube.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: I'm so happy we did this before because I know
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: you're going on a maternity thing.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going on a maternity thing. And I can't
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: keep away, though. I'll be watching. I'll be lurking. I'll
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: know what everybody's doing and what they're up to.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: I know.
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: I'm definitely going to come back if anything happens in
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: the Blake and Ryan lawsuit.
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: When there's a Malibu mom talking about banning food dyes,
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: Candace is always near.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: I'm there. I am there.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: Candace Owens, everyone. Thank you again.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: You are so welcome.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: Thank you.