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Robert Mathis on his Hall of Fame worthy career, Colts winning culture under Tony Dungy & Peyton Manning · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome on edg Off Edge the Podcast with me your
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  Speaker 1: host Cam Jordan. I'm sitting here with the man who
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  Speaker 1: needs no introduction, somebody who's been a pro bowler and
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  Speaker 1: all Pro somebody who spent their entire fourteen year career
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  Speaker 1: with the Colts of the NFL's all time leader in
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  Speaker 1: forest fumbles. I mean, he's a man who punches the ball, out,
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  Speaker 1: who finds the ball. It's a knack sometimes. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 1: I still watch film like, how did he do this
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  Speaker 1: for such a long time at such a high level.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about a member of the Coach Ring of
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  Speaker 2: Honor and.
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  Speaker 1: A black college, Black College Football Hall of Fame representing Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: A and M, which I thought he was more country
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  Speaker 1: than he is because apparently he's from like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that Atlanta side, which I'm not gonna hold it against him,
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  Speaker 1: But we talked about none other than Robert Mathis aka
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  Speaker 1: the Misico getter one hundred and twenty three sacks. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: it's time for this week's Drive for Success conversation with
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  Speaker 1: anybody Toyota. Let's go places. We talk about just formidable
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  Speaker 1: defensive ends. Somebody who I used to watch film one
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  Speaker 1: be like bro, you got a non stop motor.
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  Speaker 2: It was you and Dwight Freedy.
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  Speaker 1: But what they don't understand is how hard it is
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  Speaker 1: to get that ball out. And you you are the
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  Speaker 1: NFL all time like I said, fifty three or fifty
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  Speaker 1: four over the punch us like sad, Yeah, I'm getting that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah it was tell me how first the first
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  Speaker 3: off zone six east? That to be exact. Let's let's
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  Speaker 3: let's get that correction. But no appreciate you having me, man,
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  Speaker 3: And it's just a pleasure just to speak a sack
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  Speaker 3: pass rushers, speaking of speaking amongst sack pass rushings. So uh,
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  Speaker 3: just those are things that we practice every single day
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  Speaker 3: because if you know, as a sack man, you you
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  Speaker 3: have to sharpen your tools every day. If you don't
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  Speaker 3: do it, the tools will get dull and uh and
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  Speaker 3: you just have to do it every day. So these
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  Speaker 3: are things that my past rush uh D line coach
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  Speaker 3: uh John Cheer, he demanded that we do something past
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  Speaker 3: rush related every single day and and it carried over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I how skills they we had.
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  Speaker 1: We had a saying it as for minority line skills,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't use them, you lose it. So you
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  Speaker 1: gotta be able to work those skills every day. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: and I bring my hands to work every day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to choke it, tight end out.
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  Speaker 1: But you, I'll say you he was finding that for
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  Speaker 1: that ball, man, that's different. I mean I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I've I've had emphasis on like, oh, let's push the
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  Speaker 1: ball out, let's get the handle the ball like you know,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is. I've had quarterback in hand hand on
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  Speaker 1: the ball ripping out, and for some reason they want.
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  Speaker 2: To double clutch with me.
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  Speaker 1: I see guys like you, I see, I see you
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  Speaker 1: know Vaughn hit them with like a little like three
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  Speaker 1: figure tap and the ball be out.
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  Speaker 2: Some guys just have a knack for finding the ball.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: My team at Chris Rope had one like he He
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  Speaker 1: slid underneath the tackle, popped up, slapped the ball and the.
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  Speaker 2: Ball was out immediately.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I punched the ball and somehow it's
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  Speaker 1: like hit a quarterbacks ripcage and he's double clutched it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, godly, So for you, like, it's one thing
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  Speaker 1: to have a vision and focus on it.
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  Speaker 2: Man, for you to get a fit over fifty of
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  Speaker 2: the things knocked out, that's that's legendary.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the background background story, I grew up watching Derreck
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  Speaker 3: Thomas and he actually did started a tomahawk chop. So
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  Speaker 3: what I do whenever I'm able to get to the quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: which is not easy, by the way, for the people
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  Speaker 3: out there, you do the same thing. You secure the
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  Speaker 3: tackle and you tomahawk with the opposite hand, and it
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  Speaker 3: just so happened. The football will come out if you
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  Speaker 3: if you're getting pushed put pushed past the quarterback, just
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  Speaker 3: chicken wing it. Throw your hand out there, knock the
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  Speaker 3: ball out. And as long as you work those things
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  Speaker 3: every things, every day, it'll work out to your favor.
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  Speaker 3: But you have to do it every single day. It
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  Speaker 3: gets boring, but hey, you have to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, things don't get boring when you're obsessive about your craft.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing boring about repetitive motions. That means when you
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  Speaker 1: get tired and it's fourth quarter and the games on
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  Speaker 1: the line, and you've played sixty snaps, you play sixty
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  Speaker 1: five snaps and you've been fighting double teams chips this
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  Speaker 1: fat person called the office of Lineman.
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  Speaker 2: You you know, like this is what you rely on.
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  Speaker 1: Those those repetitive motions come skills, and that's a skill
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  Speaker 1: set right there, so somebody we may never see again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean fifty over fifty forced bubbles.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, I teach my guys to be a technician
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  Speaker 3: about your technique, and that's doing a little things right
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  Speaker 3: over and over and over. That's why you can say
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  Speaker 3: it gets boring. But to us as rush guys, is
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  Speaker 3: never boring because you get to the quarterback, get them down,
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  Speaker 3: do your sack dance, and in this mandatory have a
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  Speaker 3: sack dance mandatory man mandatory, you know, and and just
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  Speaker 3: keep it going on to the next one.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I mean the fact that I've got you here,
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  Speaker 1: a man who's at over one hundred sacks, we say,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty three. I now know what it
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  Speaker 1: feels like. You know, I'm finally a match shoot. I
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  Speaker 1: feel great about it. I'm like, man one hundred twenty
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  Speaker 1: three sacks. I don't think I've ever had my water's dreamed,
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  Speaker 1: not like be here. In my mind when I first
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  Speaker 1: got to leak, I wanted like forty or fifty sacks.
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  Speaker 1: We had the privilege to be in a couple Pro
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  Speaker 1: bowls together, and I was like, I was watching you
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  Speaker 1: and I was watching Robert Quinn, you know, going off
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  Speaker 1: for the high teens in the sacks, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta get there. I got ten,
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  Speaker 1: I got twelve, and then I finally got like that
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  Speaker 1: the fifteen and a half. I was like, man, it's
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  Speaker 1: a threshold up here. You know, what what does it
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  Speaker 1: mean for you like to be on that one hundred
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  Speaker 1: plus sack list.
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  Speaker 3: You don't sneeze at it, man, because you because you
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  Speaker 3: understand how tough it is to get to get they
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  Speaker 3: get to the quarterback, they're gonna they're gonna scheme against you.
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  Speaker 3: Once you become a guy that's on the radar, they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna make sure you don't get to their their franchise.
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  Speaker 3: Why because the past rusher, the franchise past rusher, is
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  Speaker 3: the only guy that can neutralize three other franchise players
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  Speaker 3: on one plate at any particular time. If you can
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  Speaker 3: beat the offensive WindMan, sack the quarterback, and prevent the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback and throwing it to his past catcher, you neutralize
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  Speaker 3: three guys on one plate. And if you're a guy
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  Speaker 3: that they respect enough to assign two or three guys
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  Speaker 3: onto you, that's that lets you know how tough it
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  Speaker 3: is to get to a quarterback. And we're not going
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  Speaker 3: to speak about the the Michael straight hand Brett Favs
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  Speaker 3: type of respect.
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  Speaker 2: Respect no matter how they comes, as long as they
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  Speaker 2: as they come through good way.
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  Speaker 3: They say, a sack is a sack is a sack.
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  Speaker 3: So hey, absolutely, man, absolutely, I hope I get a couple.
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  Speaker 3: All he fell down. I take that, you know, touch
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  Speaker 3: turn out of bounds. Hey, whatever the case and whatever,
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  Speaker 3: no doubt whatever, Man, I take it.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, he at the end of the season, they
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  Speaker 2: don't They don't ask how you got there. They said,
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  Speaker 2: did you get there?
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  Speaker 3: Did you get the answers? Yes, that's it, that's it,
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  Speaker 3: my brother. Hey, hey, I pray you get fifteen to
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  Speaker 3: twenty more of those.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate, I say now that we're tired. Man,
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  Speaker 1: look now, now I gotta start hutting your teammates and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: Go get like all right now, go hey, Like is
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  Speaker 1: it crazy to think like as you were after you
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  Speaker 1: hit that one hundred sack threshold and you started like
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  Speaker 1: counting down the guys you're walking down with every sack
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  Speaker 1: and you end up in the pandy of the twenty
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  Speaker 1: five greatest pass rushers of all times on that list,
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  Speaker 1: Like what is it? Were starting to look at those sacks,
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  Speaker 1: would you start like, hey, I need three more to
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  Speaker 1: pass this guy up, or hey another one.
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  Speaker 2: Here is going to help me.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't start.
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  Speaker 2: Was what was your perspective on this?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really It wasn't really real until you got
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  Speaker 3: past like the one hundred and tenth show, because I
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  Speaker 3: just want to get I wanted to get to one hundred,
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  Speaker 3: like you said you wanted to get to fifty. Once
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  Speaker 3: you passed fifties, okay, I'm going to start tracking. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to start tracking walking boys down. And uh that
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  Speaker 3: was the case. And especially with the Coats, it was
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  Speaker 3: you know, Dwhite Freendie was He's the guy, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's the mount rushmore past rushes. So once I got
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  Speaker 3: to striking range, all right, so well let's I can
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  Speaker 3: absolutely okay, yeah yeah, So once I got to that
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  Speaker 3: that first shoulder, oh man. So and this is a
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  Speaker 3: guy that me and him were we came up in
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  Speaker 3: this game together, so they lets you know, damn we
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  Speaker 3: can we can really make some noise in this thing. Man.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how it was. You got to the one hundred,
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  Speaker 3: one hundred tens. So now you want to start. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at Derek Thomas, he had one twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't get there, but hey, you ever chance he
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  Speaker 3: got a tence bro we got Hey, we got a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Look we got we got fifteen games left in the
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  Speaker 1: regular season. I'm like, man, I say, okay, we gotta
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  Speaker 1: really start coming on year.
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  Speaker 3: You got another year or two, don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm assumed saying what's in front of you?
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  Speaker 1: You know, we have fifteen opportunities left in this season.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows this this next offseason, I'm like, I got
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  Speaker 1: three more in me and be like Klais Campbell heading
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  Speaker 1: in the year eighteen. Or it could be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: my wife said, I gotta go. Here we go, we
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  Speaker 1: go pack this up ahead on to the next inventure.
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  Speaker 1: But that's just it with with every week it comes
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  Speaker 1: that much more important, Like this this past week didn't
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  Speaker 1: get one and somehow lost this game. You're like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, every one of these plays gets that
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  Speaker 1: much more important.
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  Speaker 2: Team, what it got? What it got towards the end?
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  Speaker 2: What did what did you feel like? How did you
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  Speaker 2: know after fourteen seasons seasons you you had had enough.
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  Speaker 3: Well obviously your mind tells you you can. You can
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  Speaker 3: play however loan you desire, which is twenty twenty five years.
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  Speaker 3: But your body starts talking to you every every every week.
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  Speaker 3: It was something going wrong in my body, so you're fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it started out it was a toe, it
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  Speaker 3: was my knee, then the other knee, then heilp a stinger,
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  Speaker 3: three stingers in a row. So your body, my body
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  Speaker 3: started talking to me. So I had to listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: But your body will let you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna let you do.
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  Speaker 2: There was like like right around like year seven, year eight.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I used to like wake up like bro,
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  Speaker 1: I am not kicking back, like used to be good
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  Speaker 1: by Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's Thursday, it's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I can do this
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  Speaker 1: forever now, but some of you know, you start taking
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  Speaker 1: care of your body the way that we need to
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  Speaker 1: go through acupuncture, cupping, dry needles, the electric stem the
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  Speaker 1: like the body feels good like some some weeks, like
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  Speaker 1: like this week it's Tuesday. Usually I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: hit by a train by Tuesday that delayed on the lay,
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  Speaker 1: I said, muscle sword.
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  Speaker 3: This is real. Doms.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you've a bed in a whole fight
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  Speaker 1: with Terrace Crawford out there like Canelo getting a body shots,
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  Speaker 1: going to work, and here we are.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like exactly, I'm like, I'm like this Tuesday, I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna run a mile.
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  Speaker 3: We go w some sprints.
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  Speaker 1: I said, eight, we're back, eating right, getting your body,
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  Speaker 1: body right, getting always prepared like that does a huge
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  Speaker 1: thing for you. You a contrast, if you believe in it.
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  Speaker 1: I believe in hot tub. I'm a big Are you
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  Speaker 1: a cold guy?
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  Speaker 3: I became a cold, tough guy, like midway midway through
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  Speaker 3: my career.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, these things that I don't do. I do not
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  Speaker 2: partake in the cold. But she was out in Indianapolis
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  Speaker 2: where it snow. I'm here for heat and the heat along.
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  Speaker 3: The thing about that once you got to that threshold,
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  Speaker 3: you know what your body needs. I watched I watched
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  Speaker 3: Riggie Wayne. He kind of taught me how to take
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  Speaker 3: care of my body. He was a cold tub guy,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, man, left that I'm not getting
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  Speaker 3: in the cold tub. But I saw that it helped.
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  Speaker 3: It sped up recovery and reduce inflammation. So you know
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  Speaker 3: what you need. And at this point, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: you what to see your fifteen for you sixteen Yeah yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: you know you know exactly what you need. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna do I'm not gonna go out and play basketball,
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  Speaker 3: pick up basketball, I'm not going to do none of
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  Speaker 3: that stuff. Everything is football related and just just keep it,
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  Speaker 3: keep it in focus. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He reps is low, Like reps is low with the family.
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  Speaker 1: So like I got four kids, they're like, Dad, come
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  Speaker 1: play basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Come this week one. Oh yeah, I'm in there.
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  Speaker 3: We two.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we gotta tamp it down now. Week three, Hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: I can, I can.
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  Speaker 1: I I'm quarterback if you need if you want to
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  Speaker 1: go run routes cool, Oh you need, you need an outlet,
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  Speaker 1: I can pass to you. We're not We're not playing
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  Speaker 1: for games now. Hey, we gotta we gotta tamper down.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta save my best for this next fifteen weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Look at him, listen, you go run, you go do
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  Speaker 3: all that I got you.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm gonna be right there. Run me my slant son,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, run me that post go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm not covering you. No, I'm not. Nope, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's over.
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  Speaker 1: But when I think about, how are you able to
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  Speaker 1: you know, become the strip sack king, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: the all time NFL leader with forty seven.
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  Speaker 2: Career strip sacks? Crazy, what's so another one like five
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  Speaker 2: or six just forced punch out? It's crazy? You know?
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  Speaker 1: How is it that you sort of go h underacknowledged
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  Speaker 1: for this feet Like I feel like in terms of
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  Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famers, once you hit that one
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  Speaker 1: fifteen and above one twenty for sure, like i'd say
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  Speaker 1: first ballot, and here we are saying like, hey, like
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  Speaker 1: you're still waiting on your time. How is it that
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  Speaker 1: you're sort of you know, not being talked about as
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  Speaker 1: a dominant pass rusher and the pantheon that of pass rushers.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think the bulk of my career I was
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  Speaker 3: playing with Dwight D. White is that he was that
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  Speaker 3: guy for the Aapolis Colts. But hey, I earned my
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  Speaker 3: seat at the table as well. But you know how
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  Speaker 3: that goes. You have to you have to get the
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  Speaker 3: votes that you're how the control of getting. So it
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  Speaker 3: is what it is man right here.
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  Speaker 2: So you say, like you know whatever that is, but
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  Speaker 2: you were under undersize for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Like I remember you know, like it was it was you.
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  Speaker 1: But you're sitting there at what two you played at
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  Speaker 1: two forty five?
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  Speaker 2: Two thirty five? But what the what the frontier.
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  Speaker 3: Five speak to thirty five? So we're going to put
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  Speaker 3: in the media, uh the media book it was it
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  Speaker 3: was six two two forty five nose air six feet
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  Speaker 3: thirty five.
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  Speaker 1: My gosh, Like, that's that's the astronomical like advantage that
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  Speaker 1: you have just in terms of leverage.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, but the fact that you were doing as a
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  Speaker 2: two thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Five sub two fifty, I don't know if like I've
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  Speaker 1: dropped under two seventy once in my career.
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  Speaker 2: At a preseason last year, I was like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: too light. I said, no, too light. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like it. I don't like
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  Speaker 2: how I'm black in power.
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  Speaker 1: And I got back up to thirty five and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, two thirty five is the lightest I've ever
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  Speaker 1: played this last two years.
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting to thirty five.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm quick, I'm fast, I'm had, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: I'm mobile, I'm hostile.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty five.
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  Speaker 3: I saw I wouldn't have a year ago. I looked
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  Speaker 3: down at the scale and I saw two sixty and
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  Speaker 3: I was discussing at myself my belly. A hey, man,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what too, certainly I can't even fathom that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just body type. Man. You you your
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  Speaker 3: power guy, So that's what you do, right.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta know what you're good at it. I don't know, brother,
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  Speaker 2: Like we've seen that long arm happen now it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a transition. We've seen a long arm. Take tar.
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  Speaker 2: You fast guys talking about you know the power, that's
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  Speaker 2: your lane. We got you Von Miller, your elite steps.
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  Speaker 1: Equal equal shifted feet and shifted feet equals not not
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  Speaker 1: set your gravity for an office a linement, and.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: We know where that hand place we could go.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I promise you it was weight transition. We got three
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: hundred pounds going one way. You just keep it going
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: that weight. So I'm not gonna try to do a
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: chop swim slap that you do. Man, I'm not. That's
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: not me.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna chop to mars down because I really
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: want to get their feet moving too.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missed it pushed by himself, Like
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I get you the spot and I can push you
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: by I need that. I'm trying to race. I'm trying
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: to race to my spot. Sometimes I'm like, that's where
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I want to go. We gotta push. Thank you, stupid,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: you wonderful man, you for this beautiful pleasant But man,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: what I would I have to think about what you
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: what you've been able to do. I mean in your era,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: like low key undersized you, Elvis Duomerville. You know, we
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: look at the pantheon the guys like that. It made
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: you unique, especially you coming from an HBCU, Like how
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: how does how do young Robert get to Alabama?
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Hey, the choice was very easy for me because I
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: only had one. They offered me a scholarship and it
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: just so happened to be the last scholarship of that
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: particular year because the guy that they actually it turned
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: them down on National Signing Day, and so they offered
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: me the opportunity and only had one, so I took it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Stay less.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I got a shout out to the heel Alabama and
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the Princeville. It's Vegas, Alabama.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Veaszy, no doubt, I mean, you know so then so
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: then you go ahead and we go to uh, you
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: go to Indiapolis Colts.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: You know that first year. You know, did you have
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: like a welcome to NFL type moment?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Oh? Man, yes, yes, short answer, yes, a long answer.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So if you played the two thirty five, what did
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you come into the league.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: At two twenty? Hey, it was it was so funny
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: the story. Man, it's so funny because I come in
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: obviously I had to do the core for the special
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: teams kick off, kickoff return, punt return. And my first
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: in the game was a preseason I got handled, I
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: got ran over and the guy made a tackle. But
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: during the season it's so fun I think we were
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: playing a Jets and we was gonna kick off return,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: so we got into a mix up skirmish or whatever,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: and a cornerback came in and he was talking. He's like, man,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: get your old two hundred and twenty five pounds defense
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: in face. Ass. Hey, this stopped me from whoever I
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: was engaged with, and I just started laughing. Man, it's like, bro,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: so we're doing this in the middle of a rock hey. Facts.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know when you're in the churches, boys, boys like,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: may you feel a little light today?
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Have you had?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Have you had some tacos?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe you should gonna get another steak and you were here,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like man, out of everything I could, this is me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I had plenty of light days in my career, Sir.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Man, I say, we got We got the defensive end
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: on the Saints.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Chris Ruff my dog weighed into like two thirty something
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: one day and I said two thirty eight. I said,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: big fella, go play safety. Big fella, like you ain't
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: they You know he's liked bro.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: He's like, what I eat all I can?
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: That's two for it. Tell him come see me. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: got it. No, no, he give us all nolt, slipper,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: shameless plub. Let's go. I got it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Hey, the fan facts.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, but so you you were over there again,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: over there a coat, You get your welcome moment.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: You you boke up.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You say you played at two thirty five. So we
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: gave pails there two forty on a heavy year.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I actually got this. I got the fifty one in
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: the middle of the season and I was like, oh no,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I felt my stomach bouncing, So I can't do this.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I can't do this.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Hey, you gotta know who you are. You are,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: you know you you solid? You shredded every every muscle,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: muscle speak for themselves. You know you figure your way.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: But you you say you entered you know any coats
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you had, you had the O G with you. What
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: did you take from you know, Dwight Freeney, What did
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you take from Rege?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: What do you what like?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: What? What did you take from Tony Dungee? It's outed
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to my guy, Tony Dungee.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. From coach Dongee. I took
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: no excuses, no explanations from Peyton. I took how to
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: be a student of the game from Reggie Reggie Wayne.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I took how to uh just keep you know, prepare
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: my body and just how to preserve how to preserve
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: my body from Dwight. I took how to approach the game.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Uh he was he was a one year ahead of me.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: But Dwight is his hot his football. I Q we
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: past rush i Q. I would say, nobody is ahead
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: of him. He knows how to dissect blocking schemes, uh
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: chip blocks. Uh the I you know, reading how the
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: quarterback is going to I mean, how to offensive linement
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: with their eyes, looking at their eyes, their knees, their
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: the amount of rhythms, things like that. Oh, Jeff Saturday
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: how to be a leader. Man. I came in the
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: era I man. I joined the team that was full
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: of guys. Bro uh this guys. So I try to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: take a little bit from everybody that I see that's
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: successful in their particular department. And they were just somebody.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: It was just a good run, man. Uh. I hate
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that the Saints kind of derailed one one run, one
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of those runs. But it's fine, it's fine. I'm over
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: it here.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: You got you got one.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like you're fifteen years in
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and he ain't got a super Bowl, you know, fourteen
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: one early.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I'm still hunting, Like I'm like, are you in the quarterdecks? Yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: but also wins. What I didn't want to hunt a win,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and I would have.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I've been to an NC championship game and we felt
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like got robbed, but you never and we never got back.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: So I don't even I've been to the highest part
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of mountain. I ain't been to the highest so you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: got part of the mountain.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Indeed, you got robbed. But we're not gonna do that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: That's gonna bring that's gonna bring them them dark days
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: out of me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Just like you know, we were talking about But what
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: so you know you said, Dwight's a year ahead of you.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize. I thought it was about three years
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: ahead of Eyway.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: You know, like when you guys play together, it was
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it was poetry in motion. But when did y'all know
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: y'all could be a dominant duo? You know you're saying,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you say you started taking off of doubles Dwight Dwight,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: of course double digits.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So y'all had.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Bookeets Hey, Dwight was rolling early. I walked in the door,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Dwight was already rolling. And so my rookie year, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: had three and a half sacks. But and that's because,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and this is what I tell my guys that I trained.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: That's because I relied on what I did in college,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: like the talent that I had. But this is the NFL.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: They're going to adjust by the next series. So to
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: where year two I had ten and a half. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: that was because I trusted the process. If it works
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: in practice against a guy Ryan Dean, he was the
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: offensive tackle that I work me and win against each
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: other for almost two or ten years. If it works
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: against him in practice, it's going to work against a
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: guy that doesn't know you in a game. So I
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: had to trust the move, get a plan, work a plan,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: perform a plan. So that was the thing. So now
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: by year three, I had eleven and a half and
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Dwight was like sixteen, and we was like, it was up,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: it was it was up, it was up. And so
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: we're like, hey man, but we had that. We we
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: stole sacks from each other. That was the that was
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: the unique part of our relationship that we was the
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: we was each other's best cheerleader. Like he get to
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the quarterback, like, yes, sir, so now all the tension
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: goes over there. Yeah, I love it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Like those years, Like those years you get like, oh,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: oh snaps, he got a two piece game, he got
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: oh he was crazy, he had three piece.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's still third quarter.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Brobody taking this party.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And it takes a place.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: It takes a pass rushing to understand a pass rushing.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: So if and there was no jealousy, it's just like Dwight,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: get going. You're an alpha gat please go, go, go go.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: So now the sentler is gonna slide that way, the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: running back is gonna be over there, So I gotta,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I gotta, I.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Mean, I dream of those one on ones and now
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: now because.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: He going crazy, I'm about to go absolutely.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Love that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Love that man I've had. I've had a couple of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: pass rushers over the years. When they go double digits,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not too far behind me or I'm just just
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: slightly ahead, because either way, I try to tell guys,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it goes full circle.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Those ones you missed you like, dang, that could have
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: been mine, but he got it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Eventually he he's gonna fall off one and you will
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, brother.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Let me get that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, way bad, thank you.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Hey, look that's what it's like. It's ours. It's gonna
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: stay at Bagarage.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He's gonna stay right at
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: my crills.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: But oh man, yeah, I mean you talk about you
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: at one twenty three, Dwight Freedi at one twenty five
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and a half and.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: The same era. That's just disgusting work. When you know
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you got Hall of famers on the team. You look
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: over you, you like you like little Spider Man, me.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Like you're a Hallo faper y'all had, y'all had them guns.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe let's just talk about the culture in general, Like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: after a loss, What did that locker room feel like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: versus after a win?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: You know, man, it was devastating because a loss is
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: not expected. It was not expected, and you have coach
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Dungee who doesn't yell, and that's worse than having somebody
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: that yells at you. It was like, we didn't get
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: it done. And at one time he said he said
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the word, and it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Was like, oh, oh he met that soft.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: He's just like, oh, you're a man. So that really
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: ever really stung. Uh. Obviously, with wins, we expect it
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: because we put the work in and everybody's professional. But
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: with the losses, man, they really hit hard because you
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: just don't go into a game thinking we can lose it,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: and so when you lose a game, you just have
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: to recover, bounce back and just you know, right the
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: wrongs and just move forward. But that was just the
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: locker room with those guys, man, the high caliber, elite,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: just an elite team. Man. It was just it was
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: just great. Man. It's great for you for production, it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: great for the city of Indianapolis, and it was just
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: great for development as a pleasant young player.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, I appreciate you. Man showed me the peak
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I eventually I want to get there. But thank you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: so much for tapping in everything that you are.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You're a legend of the game. You should be a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: first ballot. But it's fine, it's all right. You can
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you get your time. You're definitely gonna get in there.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you. You know what I'm saying.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you for everything.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know we're gonna we're gonna let you slide
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: out of here for everything. Man, Hey, Rob, you're an amazing person.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: You know the Pro Bowls, the Accolades, the forest fumbles,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that you winner, that you champion, that
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you are. You will be a Hall of Famer soon,
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm just so excited to have a guy like
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  Speaker 1: come on, Like, there's not too many guys who could
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: do it to the highest level of do it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: For as long as he did it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Fourteen years in the league. Again, all those all those sacks.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: God blessed.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you for everything.
• 27:56
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