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- 0:02Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy a Prophecy Watchers podcast. Well, helly,
- 0:09Speaker 1: welcome guys, if I can talk correctly. Tonight, the whole
- 0:12Speaker 1: Trump UFO thing threw me off, So welcomed everybody to
- 0:17Speaker 1: the Monday Night Live. I have a special guest on
- 0:20Speaker 1: Mondo Gonzalez, who I did not announce. This is a
- 0:22Speaker 1: complete surprise to most of y'all. So uh, anyways, thank
- 0:26Speaker 1: you guys for checking that, checking us out tonight, and
- 0:29Speaker 1: look forward to some riveting conversations.
- 0:32Speaker 2: How are you doing? Mondo?
- 0:34Speaker 3: Doing great?
- 0:34Speaker 1: Man?
- 0:34Speaker 3: It's always good to be here with you.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been I think I looked on the last video.
- 0:40Speaker 1: It's been exact almost exactly six months.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Wow.
- 0:43Speaker 2: So yeah, and it just it's flown by, hasn't it?
- 0:47Speaker 3: Absolutely twenty twenty six? I mean here we are, man,
- 0:49Speaker 3: gee almost, it's almost. Well, it is half over as
- 0:51Speaker 3: of tomorrow.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, it's right, it's almost. It's right at
- 0:55Speaker 1: the half year mark. So how's a Prophecy Watchers these days?
- 1:00Speaker 3: You know, we are doing good. It's things are busy
- 1:03Speaker 3: like everybody else. We just had our conference in Colorado,
- 1:06Speaker 3: which was superb, and we're looking forward to our next
- 1:09Speaker 3: one in Branson, which you'll be at, Lord willing, all
- 1:11Speaker 3: of us will be there.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Deb Yeah, And are y'all ever going back to Florida
- 1:16Speaker 2: or no?
- 1:16Speaker 3: Yes, we have Florida. Orlando is on the schedule now
- 1:20Speaker 3: for April.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Of awesome, very nice, very nice. So for the folks
- 1:26Speaker 1: in Florida, you won't have to wait too much longer.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have already been called up at that point,
- 1:30Speaker 1: but we'll have to wait and see how the rest
- 1:32Speaker 1: of this year shakes out. So tonight I wanted to
- 1:38Speaker 1: talk about I'm calling this the cosmic Gospel because I
- 1:42Speaker 1: think at the after the rapture of the church, you know,
- 1:45Speaker 1: as La Marzouli has said a lot. You know, when
- 1:48Speaker 1: we go up, they come down. And I remember talking
- 1:51Speaker 1: to him back in the first Colorado Prophecy Wisers conference
- 1:55Speaker 1: that I ever spoke at, and that was in twenty
- 1:56Speaker 1: one or twenty two, I can't remember the year twenty two,
- 2:02Speaker 1: and I remember I hadn't I didn't even know La.
- 2:04Speaker 2: At the time.
- 2:05Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he had heard about me before,
- 2:08Speaker 1: just like articles or whatever, but he didn't know who
- 2:10Speaker 1: I was. And I was just talking and we were
- 2:13Speaker 1: I was like, you know, it's when the rapture happened.
- 2:17Speaker 1: The rapture is going to be a global level crisis,
- 2:20Speaker 1: and if you have a global crisis, you're going to
- 2:22Speaker 1: need a global distraction. And that thought had just ruminated
- 2:26Speaker 1: in my mind, and I was talking to him and
- 2:28Speaker 1: I was sharing that with him, and he's already been
- 2:30Speaker 1: saying this for like, you know, fifteen years, but I
- 2:32Speaker 1: didn't know that.
- 2:33Speaker 2: It just dawned on me, like you know, it's gonna
- 2:36Speaker 2: take it.
- 2:36Speaker 1: It's funny how the Holy Spirit works in that, like
- 2:39Speaker 1: brings these ideas to mine that you, in your own power,
- 2:43Speaker 1: would have never really thought about or even not needed
- 2:45Speaker 1: to think about.
- 2:46Speaker 2: So but the cosmic Gospel.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Is it's not a particular doctrine, it's it's in fact
- 2:53Speaker 1: right now. The people that have kind of hijacked that
- 2:55Speaker 1: terminology is the charismatic movement, and not just the charisma
- 3:00Speaker 1: but I mean, I'm talking about the name it claimant
- 3:03Speaker 1: people on stage prosperity Gospel, you know, the people that
- 3:07Speaker 1: think that you can manifest things into reality.
- 3:11Speaker 2: And that's one of the things people don't understand about.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Trump is that I think he was raised or he
- 3:17Speaker 1: attended the Church of Norman Vincent Peale for for a
- 3:22Speaker 1: long time growing up, and so he was brought up
- 3:26Speaker 1: in this type of PAULA White type of I guess
- 3:30Speaker 1: religion or form of religion that you just kind of
- 3:34Speaker 1: talk things and that you can manifest things. So that's
- 3:36Speaker 1: why he's always like over hyping everything. He's always proclaiming
- 3:41Speaker 1: it as the greatest ever or the best thing ever,
- 3:44Speaker 1: or you know, and he's trying to manifest these things
- 3:46Speaker 1: into reality by speaking them into it.
- 3:50Speaker 2: So I don't know, I mean, that's neither here nor there.
- 3:52Speaker 1: It's just it's something if you listen to him going forward,
- 3:55Speaker 1: you got to think, Okay, well he was raised with
- 3:57Speaker 1: his mindset of like being able to speak things into existence.
- 4:01Speaker 2: So I've seen some if you.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Go on YouTube and just type up cosmic Gospel, there's
- 4:05Speaker 1: a guy named Justin Paul Abraham. I think he's a
- 4:09Speaker 1: British kind of charismatic guy, and he kind of uses
- 4:14Speaker 1: this language all the time about manifesting and having this
- 4:17Speaker 1: kind of inert divine power within each of us, and
- 4:22Speaker 1: that when we're saved or born again that kind of
- 4:24Speaker 1: unleashes that. And I had first come across this idea
- 4:30Speaker 1: when I shared that X post with you from Paul
- 4:35Speaker 1: big Glano.
- 4:36Speaker 2: I think is his name. I think his name is
- 4:38Speaker 2: Public big Glano.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Or sorry, Morrow Marrow big Glano. He translated Hebrew text
- 4:46Speaker 1: for the Catholic Publishing Company ed Edizione sin Paoo before
- 4:54Speaker 1: he left. But he left or was let go by
- 4:57Speaker 1: the Vatican because of his interpretations from the whatever these
- 5:02Speaker 1: ancient Hebrew texts that they have in the library of
- 5:05Speaker 1: this batt Have you ever.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Been to the library in the Vatican or the lick
- 5:08Speaker 2: in the Vatican. I've been to the Vatican.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Before, but I've never been down underneath to the you
- 5:13Speaker 1: know where they I guess where. I don't know if
- 5:14Speaker 1: it's catacombs or if they have these massive libraries down
- 5:17Speaker 1: there there.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been there a couple of times, but I
- 5:19Speaker 3: think you have special access to get into the to
- 5:22Speaker 3: the library down there.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:24Speaker 1: So he translated these books and then he came to
- 5:27Speaker 1: the conclusion basically of what we would think of as
- 5:29Speaker 1: like ancient out astronauts or ancient out astronauts, And you
- 5:35Speaker 1: know that show if you go on the History Channel. Basically,
- 5:39Speaker 1: the whole premise of that is that I don't even
- 5:42Speaker 1: at the timeframe millions of years ago, these these enlightened
- 5:46Speaker 1: beings came and they seated the earth, and they were
- 5:49Speaker 1: just coming back now to check on their progeny or
- 5:53Speaker 1: whatever we are to them experiment ant farm or something,
- 5:57Speaker 1: you know. And so he's interpret these books and he
- 6:00Speaker 1: comes to the conclusion that the Bible really teaches that
- 6:05Speaker 1: we are.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Children of these ancient astronauts.
- 6:11Speaker 1: And when you go through the Bible and you start
- 6:14Speaker 1: reading through the text, it's funny because they're going to
- 6:17Speaker 1: take all the same passages that we would read, you know,
- 6:20Speaker 1: like first John three about us becoming like Christ was
- 6:23Speaker 1: after his resurrection, or you know, other New Testament passages
- 6:28Speaker 1: calling us the sons of God, and all of those
- 6:32Speaker 1: types of spiritual transitions that we would have the rapture itself,
- 6:38Speaker 1: you know, going from immortal to are going from a
- 6:41Speaker 1: mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible, as we see
- 6:44Speaker 1: in one Corinthians fifteen. But they would take those kinds
- 6:48Speaker 1: of verses and they would show that in from a
- 6:50Speaker 1: New Age perspective. And now it seems like it's not
- 6:55Speaker 1: that it's not that big a deal right now, it's
- 6:58Speaker 1: kind of one of those fringe things. But I want
- 7:00Speaker 1: to quickly make a comparison to if you think back
- 7:04Speaker 1: to the nineteen twenties, there was a young man, a
- 7:07Speaker 1: young German painter. He was a war vet from World
- 7:10Speaker 1: War One. You know, he got under the influence of
- 7:15Speaker 1: some other aryan type of philosophers and teachers.
- 7:20Speaker 2: And he was being groomed.
- 7:22Speaker 1: By the philosophers on one side about the ideology. But
- 7:25Speaker 1: then when other guys began to take notice of him,
- 7:27Speaker 1: they began to think this guy could have the skills
- 7:30Speaker 1: to lead us, and they begin to teach him how
- 7:33Speaker 1: to speak publicly and how to give these rousing speeches
- 7:37Speaker 1: and work on the emotions.
- 7:38Speaker 2: And so there was a young man named Adolf.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Hitler that was being groomed early on and really all
- 7:43Speaker 1: through the nineteen twenties. The Nazi Party or the Nationalist
- 7:46Speaker 1: Socialist Party, I can't say it in German. It's like
- 7:49Speaker 1: it's super crazy long word national and niece. I don't know,
- 7:56Speaker 1: I'm not even try but you can look it up.
- 7:58Speaker 1: And they were they were just kind of like a
- 8:01Speaker 1: fringe party. Nobody really took them that seriously until they
- 8:03Speaker 1: won the majority in the reichs Dog and then they
- 8:09Speaker 1: somehow pressure the Chancellor of the time to give up
- 8:12Speaker 1: his power to this young man, and the rest of
- 8:15Speaker 1: his history is they would say, I'm going to argue
- 8:18Speaker 1: the case that right now, the World Council of Churches,
- 8:22Speaker 1: the Vatican, a lot of these kind of ecumenical groups
- 8:27Speaker 1: that are out there that are being funded by the
- 8:30Speaker 1: United Nations, you know, the World Economic Forum, all these
- 8:33Speaker 1: type of globalist organizations.
- 8:37Speaker 2: These type of.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Churches aren't very well known today or aren't very powerful.
- 8:42Speaker 3: They don't.
- 8:43Speaker 1: When they put out something that doesn't have any authority necessarily,
- 8:47Speaker 1: But I want to say that one second after the rapture,
- 8:50Speaker 1: they're going to be looked at as the religious authorities
- 8:52Speaker 1: on the earth, and they're going to get immense power,
- 8:56Speaker 1: and they're going to quickly radicalize this idea that what happened,
- 9:01Speaker 1: and we talk about this all the time in our community,
- 9:04Speaker 1: but what really happened was these alien things showed up.
- 9:08Speaker 1: And I fully expect that the rapture, that one second
- 9:10Speaker 1: after the rapture, the skies are gonna be full of
- 9:12Speaker 1: those things, those UFOs and whatever UAPs and orbs, and
- 9:18Speaker 1: they may even come down and manifest physically.
- 9:20Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 9:21Speaker 1: But I think that people are the people that aren't
- 9:24Speaker 1: there physically present with somebody that was actually raptured right
- 9:27Speaker 1: in front of them. They are gonna they're gonna believe
- 9:30Speaker 1: that the Aliens took them. And I'm growing in this
- 9:33Speaker 1: belief that this is gonna be the big delusion that
- 9:36Speaker 1: they buy into.
- 9:37Speaker 2: I don't know what are your thoughts on the great delusion?
- 9:39Speaker 2: And Tessilonians too, Yeah, the uh.
- 9:42Speaker 3: I'll step back just a second. The Vatican guy, he
- 9:48Speaker 3: the thing that makes him so dangerous is that he
- 9:53Speaker 3: it was the way that he was labeled. Here's a
- 9:55Speaker 3: guy that has all these academic credentials. He was the
- 9:58Speaker 3: official translator for ancient scripts for the Vatican, and therefore
- 10:03Speaker 3: he's coming out with some of these new interpretations, primarily
- 10:07Speaker 3: around you know, Genesis six, verse four, the Nephileine, and
- 10:13Speaker 3: he came up with this this he said, well, basically,
- 10:17Speaker 3: he said, the word Nephilene means those from Orion, like
- 10:20Speaker 3: the constellation Orion. And you know, look, I took Hebrew
- 10:25Speaker 3: in seminary, so I know how to read Hebrew. And
- 10:28Speaker 3: there is no way that this guy is correct in
- 10:33Speaker 3: any possible way. In fact, Michael Heizer who you know,
- 10:37Speaker 3: had a PhD. In Hebrew, and Hebrew was very was
- 10:41Speaker 3: quite clear that discussing the nature of the word Nephilene
- 10:44Speaker 3: and its root, and it comes back through a whole
- 10:47Speaker 3: bunch of what they call Hebrew morphology in the way
- 10:49Speaker 3: that the language is, the endings and the roots of Hebrew,
- 10:53Speaker 3: that it means giants, it means giants. It doesn't mean
- 10:57Speaker 3: fallen ones. It means giants. And it's from an Aramaic term.
- 11:01Speaker 3: So when this guy comes out and says, oh, really
- 11:03Speaker 3: the root comes back and it really means people from
- 11:04Speaker 3: a riot, he is just so far gone in every
- 11:07Speaker 3: convinceivable world. But the problem is is that the typical
- 11:11Speaker 3: person's gonna believe him because well, how might argue, he's
- 11:14Speaker 3: got credentials. And so when you think about that and
- 11:18Speaker 3: the way that the Vatican, and over the past twenty years,
- 11:22Speaker 3: a lot of work that Tom Horne has done as well,
- 11:24Speaker 3: the late Tom Horn, Mount Graham and the Lucifer Telescope
- 11:28Speaker 3: and all these other things, he did a great job
- 11:30Speaker 3: of showing how the Vatican astronomers will were quite clear
- 11:36Speaker 3: that they'd be happy to baptize aliens, and also that
- 11:40Speaker 3: the aliens are part of God's creation, and therefore they
- 11:43Speaker 3: probably have other forms of revelation that we don't have,
- 11:46Speaker 3: and so we need to be humble in order to
- 11:48Speaker 3: submit to whatever revelation they might come and share with us.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Because the Bibles is sufficients. So the Vatican is headlong
- 11:55Speaker 3: in all of this. And then, of course, if you
- 12:00Speaker 3: say it this way, if you take are there are
- 12:05Speaker 3: there any Catholics who are truly born again? Say it?
- 12:07Speaker 3: Probably probably right, Okay, I have no problems with that.
- 12:11Speaker 3: I don't I'm not a fan of Catholic theology. I
- 12:14Speaker 3: think it's a false gospel and everything else. But the
- 12:17Speaker 3: Catholic person who is trust in Jesus in the midst
- 12:21Speaker 3: of how that's even possible in the Catholic Church, which
- 12:23Speaker 3: I know a lot about. But imagine you remove them,
- 12:27Speaker 3: remove all those believers, including those within the Catholic system,
- 12:30Speaker 3: and it is one hundred percent completely set up for
- 12:36Speaker 3: the great delusion. It's hard for me to believe that.
- 12:39Speaker 3: Answering your question specifically, it's hard for me to believe
- 12:42Speaker 3: that the alien agenda, the alien mythos that has been
- 12:48Speaker 3: with us for seventy years, seventy five years, is not
- 12:51Speaker 3: going to have some part to play, at least in
- 12:55Speaker 3: some of the original deception that takes place, because we
- 12:58Speaker 3: know eventually it becomes the Antichrist religion. Right, they're gonna
- 13:01Speaker 3: be worshiping the dragon, and we could talk about that,
- 13:04Speaker 3: but nevertheless, it's I don't think I've said this before, Like, Okay,
- 13:08Speaker 3: you and me, Pete, two hundred years from now, we're
- 13:11Speaker 3: gonna be somewhere in the millennium on assignment and I, hey, Pete,
- 13:15Speaker 3: where you been. Ah? Man, I've been over here on
- 13:16Speaker 3: my horse. I've been over here. We're doing this. God
- 13:18Speaker 3: has been doing that. I said, Hey, you know, Pete,
- 13:20Speaker 3: remember that podcast we did way back a couple hundred
- 13:22Speaker 3: years ago. You know, whatever happened with the alien stuff
- 13:25Speaker 3: that never that never really materialized. I don't think we're
- 13:29Speaker 3: going to be saying that at all.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either. I don't either. I think in fact,
- 13:34Speaker 2: I mean you got to think about it right now.
- 13:36Speaker 2: You've got.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Since at least the early nineteen hundreds, Christianity has been
- 13:44Speaker 1: losing ground.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Especially after the Scopes trial there and what year that was,
- 13:50Speaker 2: nineteeneen twenty five and you had the.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Out you know, you had World War One, had the
- 14:00Speaker 1: Scopes trial. Then you had World War Two, so you
- 14:02Speaker 1: had a ton of stuff going on in the world
- 14:04Speaker 1: that was just really earth shattering. But in the background,
- 14:09Speaker 1: you had guys like all this Huxley. Who's the guy
- 14:15Speaker 1: that did the Dewey was it? John Dewey is the name.
- 14:19Speaker 1: You had a lot of these humanists that were coming
- 14:21Speaker 1: into the education system, and they're beginning to undermine Biblical
- 14:26Speaker 1: Christianity and really trying to and I would say probably
- 14:31Speaker 1: subtle ways, began to introduce humanism, in human secularism into
- 14:37Speaker 1: the text as the standard of truth or the standard
- 14:41Speaker 1: of facts. And then everything that had a religious tint
- 14:45Speaker 1: to it or was from the Bible was written off
- 14:49Speaker 1: as you know, mythology.
- 14:51Speaker 2: It was written off as just.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Very anti Christian specifically.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Yeah, and so from there, you know, really, I mean
- 14:59Speaker 1: multiply that time a thousand and across the universities and
- 15:02Speaker 1: the seminaries, and then those guys are graduating and they
- 15:05Speaker 1: begin to go down and teach in the public education arena,
- 15:10Speaker 1: and they are quickly diminishing the.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Role of the church. So you have a weekend church
- 15:16Speaker 2: in the twentieth century.
- 15:17Speaker 1: You have little sporadic pockets of evangelicalism that are like
- 15:21Speaker 1: the Billy Graham Crusades or the Calvary Chapel.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Movement in the seventies, and then you had, you know.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Little bits and pieces here, but it's never, it's never
- 15:31Speaker 1: anything that really results in transforming the nation. The nation
- 15:35Speaker 1: keeps on the same trajectory of just sliding into I
- 15:40Speaker 1: don't know, general wickedness, if I can just put in
- 15:43Speaker 1: that phrase. And so we're at this time now in
- 15:46Speaker 1: twenty twenty six where the Church is arguably probably at
- 15:48Speaker 1: its weakest point that it's been in the last two
- 15:53Speaker 1: or three hundred years in this nation at least. And
- 15:57Speaker 1: at the same time, you have a whole bunch of
- 15:59Speaker 1: stuff starting to happen that's supernatural. And even on the
- 16:03Speaker 1: good side of Christianity, that's the side that was standing
- 16:06Speaker 1: up for the truth and never wavered. They had been
- 16:09Speaker 1: so pressured into rejecting the supernatural for the for the
- 16:17Speaker 1: naturalistic or the material explanations. And in some ways that
- 16:23Speaker 1: was a benefit to the church because it caused the
- 16:25Speaker 1: Church to have to dig in and prove scientifically.
- 16:28Speaker 2: That the Bible is true. So there's that on the
- 16:32Speaker 2: good side.
- 16:32Speaker 1: But so many within Christianity then began to reject the
- 16:36Speaker 1: supernatural aspects of the Bible, things like the Nephilone, the
- 16:41Speaker 1: rapture of the Church, a literal, grammatical, historical taking of
- 16:47Speaker 1: the Book of Revelation, and other prophetic passages that the
- 16:51Speaker 1: church now is at this time were so divided, were
- 16:54Speaker 1: divided by denominations. You've got denominations within denominations that are
- 16:58Speaker 1: breaking away and starting these little box churches.
- 17:02Speaker 2: You know, non denominational you got.
- 17:04Speaker 1: I mean, I could drive up and down anywhere in
- 17:06Speaker 1: this metroplex area and I will run across so many
- 17:10Speaker 1: churches that have Love Church or Friend Church, or this
- 17:15Speaker 1: church or the or the corner church, or you have
- 17:17Speaker 1: no idea where they came from, because nobody identifies as
- 17:20Speaker 1: a denomination anymore. So the church is diminished. We're We're
- 17:25Speaker 1: I'm not diminished, We're diluted. We're being so spread out
- 17:28Speaker 1: across so much of the urban sprawl, and yet nobody
- 17:34Speaker 1: is willing to put their statement of faith anymore on
- 17:36Speaker 1: their websites. I mean, if you do, you have to
- 17:38Speaker 1: like dig into the bylaws and find, you know, dig
- 17:42Speaker 1: in and figure out. And if you do find a
- 17:43Speaker 1: statement of faith, it's super generic right, So I would
- 17:48Speaker 1: say that the church has lost a lot of its ability,
- 17:50Speaker 1: or lost a lot of its authority to to speak
- 17:55Speaker 1: to issues that we're seeing now. And so conversely, at
- 17:58Speaker 1: the same time, the churches that weakest point. We have
- 18:01Speaker 1: this explosion supernatural phenomenon and paranormal type of events happening everywhere,
- 18:11Speaker 1: and it's increasing everywhere you go. And I don't know,
- 18:14Speaker 1: like if you look at the number of like ghost
- 18:16Speaker 1: hunting shows that are on, I think in the twenty
- 18:19Speaker 1: teens it was like, I mean, there must have been
- 18:22Speaker 1: like thirty or forty different shows and they would just
- 18:24Speaker 1: go everywhere, and everywhere was like the most haunted. And
- 18:27Speaker 1: I'm like, well, how are all these towns now becoming?
- 18:30Speaker 1: Were they always haunted or is this something that's just
- 18:33Speaker 1: kind of happening. And it just seems like it's kind
- 18:35Speaker 1: of exploding everywhere, and it makes me think back to
- 18:38Speaker 1: Daniel where Daniel was, you know, Gabriel was held out
- 18:42Speaker 1: by the Prince of Persia, and so whatever the prince,
- 18:45Speaker 1: the demonic prince that is over the United States, I
- 18:47Speaker 1: think because the nation itself is rejecting God, either outrightly
- 18:53Speaker 1: or they are rejecting him in practice that they are,
- 18:58Speaker 1: that it is somehow is allowing these things to kind
- 19:01Speaker 1: of manifest more and more into this world.
- 19:04Speaker 2: And it's it's.
- 19:07Speaker 1: I think there's not that many people there's you, man,
- 19:10Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to find a church or a
- 19:12Speaker 1: pastor that's actually teaching on the nephilin or teaching on
- 19:15Speaker 1: what these things are outside of like Brandon the Whole House,
- 19:18Speaker 1: and and there's a there's a few, there's a few
- 19:21Speaker 1: big pastors, but I mean, by and large percent of
- 19:25Speaker 1: the churches here, I doubt seriously they would ever even
- 19:28Speaker 1: teach on it or even mention that, let alone the
- 19:31Speaker 1: rapture or you know, the Second Coming or the Judgments
- 19:34Speaker 1: or any of these other things they are about to
- 19:36Speaker 1: come upon the earth. So it's it's now the humanists,
- 19:40Speaker 1: the secularists, et cetera, the new agers. We are now
- 19:44Speaker 1: entering into what they think of as you know, from
- 19:47Speaker 1: the humanistic perspective, we're coming into the fourth turning point.
- 19:52Speaker 1: We're coming into the cyber physical or we're in the
- 19:56Speaker 1: cyber physical age, and that's also coming to the point
- 19:59Speaker 1: of a great reset that the world is kind of
- 20:02Speaker 1: earmarked for twenty thirty. For some strange reason. And then
- 20:05Speaker 1: at the same time, from the New Age perspective, we're
- 20:08Speaker 1: coming into the age of Aquarius, and that these things
- 20:11Speaker 1: that are showing up increasing greater numbers, and they're getting
- 20:15Speaker 1: more visibility because of all of the congressional hearings and stuff,
- 20:20Speaker 1: and the releasing of these UFO files from these tranches
- 20:24Speaker 1: that have come out from the Pentagon. It's only fanning
- 20:27Speaker 1: the flames for all of this stuff. And there's a
- 20:30Speaker 1: lot of people online now. I would say, probably, I
- 20:36Speaker 1: don't know what the percentage is, one thousand percent more
- 20:39Speaker 1: people online claiming to like talk.
- 20:40Speaker 2: To these things and interacting with these things.
- 20:44Speaker 1: And I would caution that just as much as I
- 20:46Speaker 1: would caution somebody from playing the Ouiji board. You know,
- 20:50Speaker 1: it's to me, it's just like something you don't want
- 20:52Speaker 1: to mess with. But it's it's eating up more.
- 20:56Speaker 2: And more news time.
- 20:56Speaker 1: You've got serious news anchors like Brett Bear talking with
- 21:00Speaker 1: UFO whistleblowers. I think you spoke with David Grush and
- 21:05Speaker 1: maybe Commander Favor.
- 21:06Speaker 2: And some of these other folks.
- 21:08Speaker 1: But it's gotten a lot of it's got a lot
- 21:11Speaker 1: of legs on it now, where even five ten years
- 21:14Speaker 1: ago it didn't have that.
- 21:16Speaker 3: What do you think, No, one hundred percent. We're seeing
- 21:19Speaker 3: a shift. This is the shift that we I think
- 21:22Speaker 3: that we would expect it to happen because of the
- 21:24Speaker 3: lack of biblical clarity or even biblical respect in past times.
- 21:30Speaker 3: Call them traditions, but it was least part of the
- 21:32Speaker 3: culture that those things were considered taboo, right for a
- 21:35Speaker 3: reason you would never go see a psychic or you know,
- 21:39Speaker 3: you played with the Ouiji board. I mean, those things were,
- 21:42Speaker 3: you know, even to the point of being relatively superstitious,
- 21:45Speaker 3: which in that sense is better to be safe than sorry.
- 21:47Speaker 3: And so I think we're seeing a shift here as
- 21:50Speaker 3: we're approaching the end of the age. We know that
- 21:53Speaker 3: there is a in first tiventy four, in the Latter Times,
- 21:57Speaker 3: there's going to be departure from the faith. I think
- 21:59Speaker 3: I don't even think we've seen the fullness of it,
- 22:01Speaker 3: because you know, in the yes, I believe that, I
- 22:04Speaker 3: really do believe that the Latter Times began in nineteen
- 22:07Speaker 3: forty eight with Israel and so, but of course you know,
- 22:10Speaker 3: things increase with frequency and intensity we go, but that
- 22:13Speaker 3: the time period of the seven year tribulation period, it
- 22:18Speaker 3: is one hundred percent religious. It's supernatural the whole. It's
- 22:21Speaker 3: like that the veil is going to be completely shredded
- 22:25Speaker 3: and supernaturalism is going to be everywhere. And but what
- 22:28Speaker 3: you see now, I mean, even in the past few years,
- 22:31Speaker 3: especially you know during the Biden administration, how often did
- 22:34Speaker 3: we see witches and witches, covens and others just right
- 22:37Speaker 3: out in the open public embraced, no shame at all,
- 22:41Speaker 3: no fear, It wasn't taboo. Just the culture itself is
- 22:45Speaker 3: completely blind to what is coming and when that reality comes.
- 22:51Speaker 3: I mean, that's why Jesus said in Matthew twenty four
- 22:53Speaker 3: four the first thing, let no one deceive you. That
- 22:55Speaker 3: that to me the biggest descriptor of all of the
- 22:58Speaker 3: seven year tribulations. And yeah, lawlessness, et cetera. But deception
- 23:03Speaker 3: is the biggest indicator on hands down.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I agree.
- 23:08Speaker 1: And you know, so we're in, according to the New Agers,
- 23:12Speaker 1: we're in they were coming into the Age of Aquarius.
- 23:15Speaker 1: They go back to they can draw back on historically,
- 23:19Speaker 1: they can draw back on these movements that have happened
- 23:21Speaker 1: in the past, like Theosophy, and you know, Helena Blovotsky
- 23:25Speaker 1: and then later on Alice Bailey and this guy named
- 23:30Speaker 1: Eric Vandenikin, he's the guy that came up with the
- 23:33Speaker 1: term ancient astronauts. Yeah, And what I think is interesting
- 23:40Speaker 1: is that if you so, from twenty eleven till present,
- 23:46Speaker 1: we've had.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Let's see one, two, three, four, five, I have six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
- 24:10Speaker 4: we've had at least since twenty eleven, we're really from
- 24:13Speaker 4: twenty eleven, there was one White.
- 24:17Speaker 1: House UFO response if they were responding to a petition,
- 24:20Speaker 1: and they basically said, there's no we don't know about
- 24:22Speaker 1: any there's no evidence of extraterrestrial visitation or cover ups.
- 24:27Speaker 1: And then the next big thing that happens is in
- 24:29Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, a tip is revealed, and then it's just
- 24:32Speaker 1: like fifty, you know, fourteen other things are then released
- 24:35Speaker 1: from the government, either the government is doing some type
- 24:37Speaker 1: of congressional hearing on them, or there's a task force
- 24:41Speaker 1: being stood up, or one of the branches that the
- 24:44Speaker 1: military is confirming something, or it's just you know, it's
- 24:49Speaker 1: it's it's gotten these legs and it's taken off and
- 24:52Speaker 1: it's running and it's it's it's fascinating today because you know,
- 24:55Speaker 1: most scholars of any background, there's very few that what
- 25:01Speaker 1: that would deny Jesus actually existed. What is interesting is,
- 25:08Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if it was from Helena Blovatski,
- 25:12Speaker 1: maybe even before her, at least in modern times where
- 25:16Speaker 1: Jesus is now this enlightened master he is, he was
- 25:20Speaker 1: an ancient astronaut. I guess you know that you could say,
- 25:23Speaker 1: or he was from their kind. And when you look
- 25:26Speaker 1: at Scripture and you start reading through all the different
- 25:29Speaker 1: passages about you know that our home isn't here. You know,
- 25:34Speaker 1: we're just sojourners on the earth and we're waiting for
- 25:38Speaker 1: this event to happen. And they're just piggybacking on the
- 25:41Speaker 1: rapture event because they don't have anything. I mean, that's
- 25:44Speaker 1: what Satan does anyways. He can't create anything uniquely. He
- 25:47Speaker 1: has to take what's already there and corrupted and perverted.
- 25:51Speaker 1: And so when we think about these gray aliens being
- 25:56Speaker 1: meat suits or whatever that are inhabited possessed, I would
- 25:59Speaker 1: look at them not as life forms necessarily, but I
- 26:01Speaker 1: would look at them as like insects are, you know,
- 26:03Speaker 1: like an insect is alive, but it doesn't Like an
- 26:07Speaker 1: ant doesn't even have a brain, how does it function.
- 26:10Speaker 1: There's a lot of insects that don't have brains, so
- 26:12Speaker 1: how do they function. They function by pheromones, or they
- 26:14Speaker 1: function by some other type of chemical reaction going on.
- 26:18Speaker 1: So these things are able to be able to be manipulated.
- 26:21Speaker 1: And going back to the Book of Enoch, I think
- 26:24Speaker 1: it was in the Book of Enoch that talks about
- 26:26Speaker 1: it was in the days of Jared that these fallen
- 26:29Speaker 1: angels begin to teach mankind how to do things that,
- 26:34Speaker 1: through the normal processes of time, would have taken, you know,
- 26:36Speaker 1: hundreds to thousands of years.
- 26:38Speaker 2: But they're given all this stuff right off the bat, like.
- 26:40Speaker 1: How to make weapons and women how to make put
- 26:43Speaker 1: on makeup and seduce men. And then pharmachea stuff probably
- 26:47Speaker 1: mixing and combining different plants and things together. There's a
- 26:51Speaker 1: mushroom out there, no kidding, and they don't even know
- 26:55Speaker 1: how it works because it's a it's not a psycho
- 26:58Speaker 1: active mushroom or the silly cybus or whatever it's called.
- 27:03Speaker 1: And it makes you see small people. It makes you
- 27:05Speaker 1: see like little I'm not like little Aputians or something
- 27:09Speaker 1: you know, like it makes you see and it goes
- 27:11Speaker 1: on for days, and then the scientists are trying to
- 27:13Speaker 1: figure out why it does is I don't know, I'm
- 27:16Speaker 1: sure it has some kind of spiritual component to it.
- 27:18Speaker 1: But back to Jesus being this kind of cosmic genie,
- 27:21Speaker 1: he's just, you know, according to the New Agers, he
- 27:24Speaker 1: is just an enlightened master, one amongst many. And this
- 27:30Speaker 1: whole idea of we're not alone in the universe, I mean,
- 27:33Speaker 1: think back to Darwin, right, So what did Darwin in
- 27:35Speaker 1: the theory of evolution posit to mankind that we are
- 27:40Speaker 1: not unique, We're just one amongst many other kind of
- 27:44Speaker 1: life forms that are evolving from one state to another.
- 27:47Speaker 1: And so that was the lie from the eighteen fifties
- 27:50Speaker 1: going forward. And so here in the you know, I
- 27:53Speaker 1: would say probably as late as the or the as
- 27:56Speaker 1: early as the nineteen fifties, we start to realize maybe
- 27:59Speaker 1: we're not alone.
- 28:00Speaker 2: So we're not unique and we're not alone.
- 28:02Speaker 1: You know, And so that goes so far, and it's
- 28:07Speaker 1: it's subtle, but it goes so far and undermining the
- 28:10Speaker 1: authority of scripture because the Bible is saying that in
- 28:13Speaker 1: the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and
- 28:16Speaker 1: he created everything within six days.
- 28:19Speaker 2: And in that garden he.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Put two humans, the first two humans, and that they existed,
- 28:24Speaker 1: and that because of their actions, you know, they ate
- 28:27Speaker 1: from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
- 28:29Speaker 1: That because of that desire to be like God, that
- 28:33Speaker 1: it caused the downfall, it caused you know, that rebellion
- 28:35Speaker 1: caused the first sin, ushering in death, ushering in corruption
- 28:40Speaker 1: of creation and.
- 28:41Speaker 2: Everything that's happened thus far.
- 28:44Speaker 1: But that's that same desire for mankind to be like God,
- 28:49Speaker 1: to have that knowledge, that hidden knowledge, that has driven
- 28:54Speaker 1: all of the cults, all of the religions, all of
- 28:57Speaker 1: the secret societies allever, everything goes going all the way
- 29:00Speaker 1: up until our present day. And that this is just
- 29:03Speaker 1: a new manifestation of this. It's like a revival of
- 29:08Speaker 1: the pre flood world, where so much supernatural stuff was happening,
- 29:13Speaker 1: it was almost normal. And I would say, today, so
- 29:16Speaker 1: much supernatural stuff is happening. I mean, look at all
- 29:18Speaker 1: these tranches that are coming out, and it doesn't even
- 29:20Speaker 1: hardly make that I mean, it makes the news, but
- 29:21Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, earth shattering type of news.
- 29:27Speaker 1: And I you know, Satan is if above everything else,
- 29:30Speaker 1: he's a narcissist and he can understand the story not
- 29:34Speaker 1: to be about him. And so I guarantee you that
- 29:36Speaker 1: we're going to start seeing stuff that comes out between
- 29:40Speaker 1: now and the rapture that is going to cause us,
- 29:44Speaker 1: you and me and people that study this stuff and
- 29:45Speaker 1: look at this stuff all the time to scratch your
- 29:48Speaker 1: head and like what is that?
- 29:49Speaker 2: Or how how is that?
- 29:50Speaker 3: You know what is?
- 29:51Speaker 2: And so multiply that times a million into this.
- 29:54Speaker 1: The average lay person who doesn't read their Bible, their
- 29:57Speaker 1: idea of Christianity is just going to church once a week,
- 30:00Speaker 1: doing their one hour in there, and then they go
- 30:02Speaker 1: out and do whatever.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Else they're going to do. And they're they're going to
- 30:06Speaker 2: be swept up in all this.
- 30:07Speaker 1: And I can see how easily that people are going
- 30:09Speaker 1: to buy into this, this idea that we're not alone,
- 30:13Speaker 1: we're not unique, and we're not alone, and we're just
- 30:16Speaker 1: one species amongst perhaps trullions in the galaxy or in
- 30:21Speaker 1: the universe that is coming to this into this age
- 30:25Speaker 1: of Aquarius. And you know the Bible, and I'm you know,
- 30:28Speaker 1: you can make anybody can make the Bible say anything
- 30:31Speaker 1: they wanted to say, and that's why we have so
- 30:33Speaker 1: many different religions, That's why we have cults, that's why
- 30:35Speaker 1: we have denominations. You know, I think the last time
- 30:40Speaker 1: I looked, there was something like forty thousand different denominations
- 30:44Speaker 1: or sex within Christianity. And I mean even the Catholic
- 30:48Speaker 1: Church has breakoffs.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Of the Catholic Church. So even these, even even Islam,
- 30:54Speaker 2: I mean, look at Islam is supposedly we're so monolithic.
- 30:57Speaker 2: No they're not.
- 30:57Speaker 1: They're they're fractured into their increasing becoming more fractured as
- 31:01Speaker 1: time goes along. But you know, within Christianity, so much
- 31:06Speaker 1: of the Church refuses to even recognize this as an issue.
- 31:12Speaker 1: That people are people are naturally drawn to this topic.
- 31:14Speaker 1: So when you have something that defies the laws of physics,
- 31:18Speaker 1: now you're you're and you're seeing that on the news,
- 31:20Speaker 1: You're not seeing that on the Disney Channel, on a
- 31:22Speaker 1: Marvel movie or something. You're thinking like, how is that possible?
- 31:28Speaker 1: And so your mind turns to Okay, I guess either
- 31:31Speaker 1: the government has this super secret squirrel stuff that nobody
- 31:34Speaker 1: knows about. With some of that turns out to be,
- 31:37Speaker 1: but there's other stuff that like the Miami Mall for example. Yet,
- 31:43Speaker 1: like I don't know, two or three hundred cops show up,
- 31:46Speaker 1: all these reports coming out, and they did a recreation
- 31:49Speaker 1: of baby Everybody's like eyewitness statements and they made this
- 31:52Speaker 1: video and it was like super creepy.
- 31:54Speaker 2: I don't know if I can find it, I don't know.
- 31:58Speaker 1: It's it seems like everything is kind of converging right
- 32:01Speaker 1: now into this little bit of time that we're in,
- 32:02Speaker 1: this little window of time, so many things are swirling around,
- 32:05Speaker 1: and the church is just a sleep at the will.
- 32:07Speaker 2: And the Mormons, all of this stuff with.
- 32:11Speaker 1: UFOs and extra terrestrials and UAPs and all that, this
- 32:15Speaker 1: all feeds into the stuff that they believe already, because
- 32:18Speaker 1: you know, they don't believe in this.
- 32:21Speaker 2: And I'm sure I'll get some pushback.
- 32:23Speaker 1: On this for Mormons, but the Mormons that don't know
- 32:25Speaker 1: their their history that Brigham Young and the Joseph Smith
- 32:30Speaker 1: and others had.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Taught that, you know, God was once a man yep,
- 32:33Speaker 2: and that some God before him made him a god.
- 32:38Speaker 1: And then that God before him was also a man,
- 32:40Speaker 1: and some God before him made him a man, you
- 32:42Speaker 1: know what I mean.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Like it just goes on and back.
- 32:44Speaker 3: It's the eternal progression.
- 32:47Speaker 2: Yeah, the eternal or was it eternal regression.
- 32:49Speaker 3: Or progress progression? Because they're progressing, everybody gets a chance
- 32:54Speaker 3: to be their own God. Yep.
- 32:55Speaker 1: So that feeds into that narrative as well, you know,
- 32:59Speaker 1: in terms of cosmic brothers and sisters out there in
- 33:05Speaker 1: space somewhere, and so I can just see it all
- 33:08Speaker 1: coming together. I used to kind of laugh at this
- 33:10Speaker 1: idea about ecumenism. I always just thought it was going
- 33:14Speaker 1: to be some type of I didn't ever think it
- 33:17Speaker 1: was Islam, because.
- 33:18Speaker 2: I think Islam was too.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Too radical.
- 33:22Speaker 2: It's too radical, too violent, and it's just is not
- 33:24Speaker 2: going to be accepted by the masses.
- 33:27Speaker 3: Nor will they accept others. You know. Yeah, they're they're
- 33:31Speaker 3: not tolerant, and.
- 33:32Speaker 1: They would not tolerate the anti Christ, you know that
- 33:34Speaker 1: came out and said hey, you gotta worship me.
- 33:36Speaker 2: They would rise.
- 33:37Speaker 1: So Satan has no use for that. But you know,
- 33:41Speaker 1: you mentioned something earlier about you know, the church here
- 33:44Speaker 1: being on the earth, and you know, in the absence
- 33:48Speaker 1: of the church at the rapture, who shows up?
- 33:52Speaker 2: Say that again, after the church is raptured, who shows up?
- 33:57Speaker 3: Well, we would expect that at least the anti Christ
- 33:59Speaker 3: does in some form. I mean he's here in some way, right.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was thinking about on the good side
- 34:06Speaker 2: on God's team.
- 34:08Speaker 3: Oh oh, like the two Witnesses.
- 34:11Speaker 1: The two Witnesses, right, we don't know exactly when they're
- 34:13Speaker 1: going to show up, but they're going to have supernatural powers.
- 34:15Speaker 3: Yep.
- 34:16Speaker 1: And to my knowledge, people are going to be pretty
- 34:21Speaker 1: pissed off about them having the supernatural powers.
- 34:24Speaker 3: They send gifts. I mean, think about all that is.
- 34:26Speaker 3: It's like Christmas. I mean, it's so weird that they
- 34:29Speaker 3: the world sends gifts because it says clearly Revelation eleven
- 34:33Speaker 3: that they're dead in the street and people are glad
- 34:35Speaker 3: because they tormented them. So their ministry is not going
- 34:39Speaker 3: to be Jesus loves you and has a plan for
- 34:42Speaker 3: your life. It's going to be Jesus loves you, better
- 34:45Speaker 3: repent and here comes fire and brimstone. So it talks
- 34:49Speaker 3: about that actual phraseology in chapter eleven. So they rejoice
- 34:54Speaker 3: over their death for three and a half days. So
- 34:57Speaker 3: and even there, that's another fascinating thing to see that
- 35:01Speaker 3: God resurrects them and says come up here and in
- 35:04Speaker 3: front of their enemies, they go up, So another testimony
- 35:08Speaker 3: of God's victory.
- 35:10Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it's.
- 35:13Speaker 1: I guess what I'm thinking of too, is that we've
- 35:15Speaker 1: lived in this day and age, at least for the
- 35:17Speaker 1: last two hundred and something years, where the supernatural has
- 35:21Speaker 1: been completely kind of just dismissed, with the exception of
- 35:24Speaker 1: like the New Age and the cults and stuff, and
- 35:26Speaker 1: certain you know Christians like us that believe in the supernatural,
- 35:32Speaker 1: we accept it, but for the most part, the world
- 35:35Speaker 1: has been starved of the supernatural. When these things show up,
- 35:39Speaker 1: the Antichrist and the false Prophet, and now the two
- 35:42Speaker 1: witnesses that God's.
- 35:43Speaker 2: Going to push down are send down to the earth
- 35:45Speaker 2: and they're going to have supernatural powers.
- 35:48Speaker 1: The world is going to change radically to where the
- 35:52Speaker 1: supernatural is going to become the new normal again. And
- 35:55Speaker 1: I just don't think a lot of people are going
- 35:57Speaker 1: to be able to handle that. People that are left
- 35:59Speaker 1: behind going to have a hard time seeing the things
- 36:02Speaker 1: that they're seeing.
- 36:04Speaker 3: Supernaturalism, by its very nature is impactful, whether for good
- 36:08Speaker 3: or evil. And so you know, especially for us who
- 36:11Speaker 3: are very naturalistic or scientifically minded, someone to come along
- 36:17Speaker 3: and to demonstrate, you know, clear power all power and
- 36:22Speaker 3: signs and lying wonders, you know, as as tewod Testilonian's
- 36:25Speaker 3: two describes the Antichrist's reign, most people don't have the
- 36:29Speaker 3: ability emotionally to overcome that or to resist it, because
- 36:35Speaker 3: it's gonna be so overwhelmingly convincing. And that's why it
- 36:39Speaker 3: is called the great delusion, because the only thing that's
- 36:41Speaker 3: gonna stand apart from that is truth. And what truth?
- 36:45Speaker 3: The truth of that dusty old book, the Bible. Seriously,
- 36:50Speaker 3: you know, what's what do you find in there? But
- 36:51Speaker 3: yet the words of eternal life.
- 36:54Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty amazing. It's it's amazing what God
- 36:57Speaker 1: chose to use. He could have put the Gospel. He
- 37:01Speaker 1: could have engraved it onto the moon, like in such
- 37:04Speaker 1: giant letters that nobody could ever touch it or and
- 37:08Speaker 1: it would be ever present, you know.
- 37:09Speaker 3: He could have the collations. He could have said God,
- 37:12Speaker 3: I am God, I am here.
- 37:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's any number of ways he could
- 37:17Speaker 2: have revealed himself to us. But he chose to do
- 37:20Speaker 2: it in a.
- 37:20Speaker 1: Manner that would one would be under you know, could
- 37:25Speaker 1: be understood by you know, for everybody from a child
- 37:28Speaker 1: to a to a you know, a man.
- 37:31Speaker 2: On his deathbed at the age of ninety nine.
- 37:33Speaker 1: You know, it's it's something that's so simple, yet you
- 37:36Speaker 1: could spend your You've been studying the Bible for how
- 37:38Speaker 1: many decades.
- 37:39Speaker 3: Now, oh, thirty five years so.
- 37:42Speaker 2: And you've barely scratched their surface.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Always learned something new.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, as if by I.
- 37:47Speaker 1: Mean I I barely scratched the surface with it, because
- 37:50Speaker 1: it's there's just so much there. And in fact, one
- 37:53Speaker 1: of the one of the presentations I'm going to do,
- 37:56Speaker 1: I don't know when I'll do it, maybe one of
- 37:59Speaker 1: the just coming up, but I want to do all
- 38:01Speaker 1: the just the cool things in scripture, you know that
- 38:04Speaker 1: that people gloss over, and like, you know, the the
- 38:07Speaker 1: two announcements by John the Baptist, you know, and John
- 38:10Speaker 1: the Baptist. I think it's a John chapter one where
- 38:13Speaker 1: John the Baptist the first time that Jesus coming to
- 38:15Speaker 1: get baptized, he said, behold the Lamb of God, who
- 38:17Speaker 1: takes away the sins of the world. And then the
- 38:19Speaker 1: second time he announces them, behold the Lamb of God.
- 38:22Speaker 1: He doesn't say the second time that takes away the
- 38:25Speaker 1: sins of the world, because he only got to do
- 38:26Speaker 1: it one time, you know.
- 38:27Speaker 2: But it's like little things like that you find in
- 38:29Speaker 2: scripture that's it's like so cool it to.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Me, I don't know if it's going to factor into
- 38:33Speaker 1: any of this, or if the two witnesses are able
- 38:36Speaker 1: to pinpoint it exactly and say, no, this is right here.
- 38:40Speaker 2: So let me ask you this too.
- 38:42Speaker 1: This is more on the Temple Mount stuff you know
- 38:46Speaker 1: in Israel, to me is like the epicenter for not
- 38:49Speaker 1: only is it the epicenter for all of Bible prophecy,
- 38:52Speaker 1: but when it comes to spiritual warfare, I think that
- 38:55Speaker 1: it's also probably the epicenter of the world.
- 38:58Speaker 2: But you've got here's Satan. Satan we know in uh.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I think it's in Second Corinthians chapter one where it
- 39:07Speaker 1: or maybe it's in the First Corinthians two or three.
- 39:10Speaker 2: I don't have my Bible with me right here, But.
- 39:14Speaker 1: Is it where they would not have crucified if they'd
- 39:17Speaker 1: have known why Christ had come, they would not have crucified.
- 39:19Speaker 2: The Lord of Glory.
- 39:21Speaker 3: Seven and eight?
- 39:22Speaker 1: Yeah, First Corinthians two, seven and eight. Okay, And then
- 39:25Speaker 1: if so, if that's the case, right, is Satan currently
- 39:29Speaker 1: trying to slow down the formation of the beast kingdom
- 39:34Speaker 1: Or is he because he knows if that happens, then
- 39:38Speaker 1: you know, he's only got like seven years left. Or
- 39:40Speaker 1: is he or is he actively trying to speed it up?
- 39:43Speaker 1: Or like why why do we feel like this tension
- 39:45Speaker 1: is going on between things speeding up? And yet at
- 39:48Speaker 1: the same time, why would Satan do that if it's
- 39:51Speaker 1: to his detriment that he does that?
- 39:53Speaker 3: So I think that the the verse there in chapter
- 39:58Speaker 3: two Corinthians is so, I think you have more than
- 40:04Speaker 3: just Satan. But now does Satan have ironclad rulership over
- 40:10Speaker 3: his subordinates or do you have tensions? Think about a
- 40:14Speaker 3: root full of selfish, egotistical beings, right, they're all gonna
- 40:19Speaker 3: be fighting and it's about c s. Lewis used to
- 40:21Speaker 3: write about this, that it's just about force, it's about fear,
- 40:25Speaker 3: so whatever that means. But I tend to think that
- 40:31Speaker 3: you bring up the exact question is, well, we ask
- 40:34Speaker 3: from our very spiritually minded, logical brains, you know, guided
- 40:41Speaker 3: by the Holy Spirit, where we think clearly, okay, well,
- 40:44Speaker 3: think about Satan. Jesus said he's a murderer, he's the
- 40:48Speaker 3: father of lies. There is no truth in him. So
- 40:51Speaker 3: what that means is he can't even speak truth to himself.
- 40:56Speaker 3: So not only is he deceiver, but he is the
- 40:59Speaker 3: biggest self de person that's existed. To think for one moment.
- 41:03Speaker 3: I mean, logically, we think, why would you rebel against
- 41:07Speaker 3: an omnipotent all you know, all powerful, you know, all
- 41:12Speaker 3: knowledge God. I mean, sir, you didn't think that through
- 41:15Speaker 3: Oh you perfect in wisdom from when you were created.
- 41:19Speaker 3: So but it reminds me I remember being a kid.
- 41:23Speaker 3: You probably remember this too, as young boys were a
- 41:27Speaker 3: bunch of idiots. Okay, so we're out on the playground
- 41:31Speaker 3: and you have I remember seeing you had a young
- 41:35Speaker 3: kid who was so full of himself, just filled with pride.
- 41:39Speaker 3: So there was a whole bunch of these wrestling, and
- 41:42Speaker 3: finally there was a fight broke out and there was
- 41:44Speaker 3: this big guy and the young kid. This little kid
- 41:46Speaker 3: comes up and the big guy just like throws around
- 41:50Speaker 3: like a rag doll. Well, that kid wouldn't give up.
- 41:52Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna get him this time. You're like, dude,
- 41:55Speaker 3: that guy will squash you with his left finger. I'll
- 41:57Speaker 3: get him. He had to convinced himself that he would
- 42:00Speaker 3: never lose and that he would get the victory over
- 42:03Speaker 3: that guy, which all of us, from our logical minds
- 42:05Speaker 3: looked and said, impossible, man, impossible. So in the same way,
- 42:10Speaker 3: I think Satan when he sees the agenda and he
- 42:13Speaker 3: sees the hatred of God in the world in his
- 42:16Speaker 3: hands right now, he sees the witches and the covens
- 42:20Speaker 3: and all these the more immorality and this trafficking and
- 42:23Speaker 3: all these the power, you know, the so called gods,
- 42:27Speaker 3: and the pedophilia, all that just wickedness returning. He's thinking,
- 42:31Speaker 3: we're winning. Look around, We're winning. We are going to
- 42:35Speaker 3: win this. So when he reads the book, he reads
- 42:38Speaker 3: it to his own self deception. So I think he's
- 42:40Speaker 3: convinced himself that the way that it's reads, that's not
- 42:44Speaker 3: the way it's gonna end.
- 42:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. I could see him thinking
- 42:48Speaker 2: that it seems it just seems like.
- 42:53Speaker 1: It seems like in one instance, that he's using Islam
- 42:56Speaker 1: as a means to slow or stop, just like he
- 43:00Speaker 1: used the Nazis in World War Two. He was trying
- 43:02Speaker 1: to stop the Jewish cove or the Jewish nation from
- 43:06Speaker 1: coming back because he he could be a fly on
- 43:08Speaker 1: the wall. And here all the conversations in the back
- 43:10Speaker 1: rooms of Theodore Herzel and their plans, and there's a
- 43:14Speaker 1: first Scientist Congress and then the Balfour Declaration, and so
- 43:17Speaker 1: he could see this is where this is going, and
- 43:20Speaker 1: so he rises, he brings up this Nazi party in Germany.
- 43:24Speaker 1: They end up taking over because they have supernatural demonic forces,
- 43:28Speaker 1: you know, carrying them like the wind in their sails.
- 43:32Speaker 1: And then from there, you know, he uses the holocaust
- 43:35Speaker 1: of trying to exterminate them or you know, totally crush them,
- 43:38Speaker 1: and all it does is galvanize them into this mantra
- 43:42Speaker 1: that they've had for decades never again, you know.
- 43:45Speaker 2: And then that's just what's carried them forward and allowed
- 43:47Speaker 2: them to stay a nation this long. My understanding is
- 43:51Speaker 2: that those people are.
- 43:52Speaker 1: All in Hell or the Lake of Fire, I guess
- 43:56Speaker 1: at this point, and they will never they'll never escape
- 43:59Speaker 1: from the lake fire. They'll never be able to creep
- 44:02Speaker 1: out of there and somehow come back in and invade.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Is that good way to think about it?
- 44:08Speaker 3: Or no, that's exactly because you know, there are those
- 44:11Speaker 3: that try to, you know, lately deny eternal punishment, thinking
- 44:16Speaker 3: that annihilationism is the answer. But this passage in verse
- 44:20Speaker 3: fourteen is really, it's just disruptive to the whole entire
- 44:24Speaker 3: chapter of twenty one and twenty two. You have all
- 44:27Speaker 3: this wonderful things. God's down, he's dueling with man. I mean,
- 44:30Speaker 3: we got rivers, we got we got towers, we got gates,
- 44:33Speaker 3: we got trees, tree of life, all these beautiful, wonderful things.
- 44:36Speaker 3: There's no more pain, no more sorrow. And right in
- 44:38Speaker 3: the middle is this warning. But outside somewhere in the
- 44:44Speaker 3: outer darkness is the word out somewhere out there which
- 44:47Speaker 3: would be consistent with outer darkness is you have this
- 44:50Speaker 3: phraseology of disruption. So you have this beautiful portrait in
- 44:54Speaker 3: some ways being contaminated by the reality of this group
- 44:58Speaker 3: of people that in the in the New Creation they're
- 45:02Speaker 3: still outside somewhere and they're described as being wicked and sexual, moral,
- 45:07Speaker 3: et cetera. So it really is I think, why would
- 45:10Speaker 3: God allow this verse to taint this New Creation of
- 45:14Speaker 3: chapters twenty one and twenty two. That sin is so
- 45:17Speaker 3: serious that it's it's an eternal thing. Even after the
- 45:20Speaker 3: New Creation, there's still they're still existing. So to me,
- 45:24Speaker 3: it's it's a pretty huge warning, and I think it's
- 45:28Speaker 3: it's a it's not an argument but it is an
- 45:30Speaker 3: argument against the idea that after the new creation, the
- 45:35Speaker 3: new habits and new Earth, that all the all the
- 45:37Speaker 3: wicked people have somehow been annihilated. Obviously they're still here somewhere.
- 45:44Speaker 2: Okay from Talia Balloons.
- 45:46Speaker 1: If the rapture happens when things are relatively normal, yet
- 45:49Speaker 1: we are to expect birth pains. So does that mean
- 45:51Speaker 1: birth pains will seem normal after a while.
- 45:55Speaker 3: Well, here you have two theories by many props the teachers.
- 46:01Speaker 3: If you take some of the more I won't even
- 46:03Speaker 3: call it conservative. On one camp, you have those like
- 46:06Speaker 3: Tommy Ice and others who I would say are more
- 46:08Speaker 3: classical and their dispensationism that for them, the birth pains
- 46:13Speaker 3: absolutely do not start until the tribulation period, so there
- 46:16Speaker 3: are no birth pains prior to the semi star of
- 46:19Speaker 3: the Sementy of Cadanner, prior to the rapture. For them,
- 46:23Speaker 3: they even sometimes have a challenging time of saying that
- 46:27Speaker 3: Israel coming back into the land is fulfilled prophecy because
- 46:30Speaker 3: for them that there is nothing that's required. There is
- 46:33Speaker 3: no prophecy going to be fulfilled and tell the rapture.
- 46:35Speaker 3: So you have that camp. The other camp you have
- 46:38Speaker 3: like doctor Arnold Fruchtebom. He believed that the birth pains
- 46:43Speaker 3: and really the footsteps of the Messiah Accord that's the
- 46:47Speaker 3: name of his book, began in nineteen seventeen, based in
- 46:49Speaker 3: nineteen fifteen with World War One. Because of the phraseology,
- 46:54Speaker 3: you know, kingdom against kingdom and nation against nation. He says,
- 46:57Speaker 3: those are very specific rabbinic phrases speaking about world wars.
- 47:01Speaker 3: So for him, the end of the age begin and
- 47:04Speaker 3: work with World War One, and then you're going to
- 47:06Speaker 3: see this progression of birth pays, including wars. Earthquakes pessences
- 47:11Speaker 3: increase from basically nineteen fifteen all the way up until
- 47:14Speaker 3: the time of Jesus's second coming, so that frequency and intensity,
- 47:18Speaker 3: for him, he would say earthquakes have increased since nineteen
- 47:21Speaker 3: hundred or whatever. And so you have those two camps.
- 47:24Speaker 3: So pick a camp and you could see for some
- 47:28Speaker 3: we'll say there are no birth things. We're not going
- 47:29Speaker 3: to see them at all.
- 47:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting.
- 47:33Speaker 1: I can't help but think that everything is moving along exponentially,
- 47:38Speaker 1: especially with technology.
- 47:40Speaker 2: And you know, you could always argue.
- 47:42Speaker 1: The case about earthquakes, you could argue the case about famines.
- 47:45Speaker 2: Or pestilences and things like that. But the technology is
- 47:49Speaker 2: undeniable in my opinion.
- 47:51Speaker 1: I mean, just how fast we've come since the nineteen
- 47:53Speaker 1: nineties is really unbelievable. But you know, I use this
- 47:59Speaker 1: a lot in MYS I talk a lot about Imagine
- 48:02Speaker 1: you're in a cafe in nineteen ninety three with a
- 48:05Speaker 1: friend and you're looking at your you know, having coffee
- 48:09Speaker 1: or whatever, and you're talking about Bible prophecy, and you
- 48:12Speaker 1: start talking about the science of the times, and you
- 48:15Speaker 1: might make reference to the Oslo Accords between Yasser Arafat
- 48:21Speaker 1: and Israel and Clinton was the area the White House lawn,
- 48:24Speaker 1: and you could think, okay, this could be the covenant,
- 48:27Speaker 1: you know, And then you could talk about Europe. It
- 48:29Speaker 1: looks like it's coming together. They're going to look like
- 48:31Speaker 1: they're going to come into some kind of a union together.
- 48:34Speaker 3: And keen they were at ten at one time.
- 48:37Speaker 2: And then the Soviet Union collapses. You know, then now
- 48:39Speaker 2: what do we do with those guys? Those were the
- 48:41Speaker 2: big bads for so long and now they're not.
- 48:44Speaker 1: So you know, then you could look at the year
- 48:46Speaker 1: two thousand, Well, if it's ninety three, you're only seven
- 48:48Speaker 1: years away and that's you know, the two thousandth year
- 48:52Speaker 1: into the new post Christ, you know, after Christ's death
- 48:57Speaker 1: and o'domini era and you know, all of that stuff.
- 49:01Speaker 1: I'm sure that you could look at some things, but
- 49:03Speaker 1: a lot of it was a stretch. And now it
- 49:05Speaker 1: doesn't seem like anything that's a stretch. There really isn't
- 49:07Speaker 1: any kind of technology that whether we're talking about the
- 49:11Speaker 1: Mark of the Beast or the global satellite surveillance whatever
- 49:15Speaker 1: that you know, we see everybody in the world can
- 49:17Speaker 1: see the two witnesses, bodies laying on the streets of Jerusalem,
- 49:21Speaker 1: you know, anything that's there's a technological component to revelation.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Or even to some of the things described there. All
- 49:28Speaker 2: that stuff exists.
- 49:29Speaker 1: Now there's no The real question is, you know, not
- 49:33Speaker 1: how the mark of the Beast can come, but which
- 49:34Speaker 1: way is it going to come?
- 49:36Speaker 2: You know, like there's a lot of different options now
- 49:39Speaker 2: you know that could happen.
- 49:40Speaker 3: So you know, let me say one more thing about that,
- 49:42Speaker 3: because I think imagine, like, okay, like right now, I
- 49:46Speaker 3: mean people say some people say that we're in the
- 49:48Speaker 3: con tribulation right now. I mean you're like, man, the
- 49:52Speaker 3: other day, I got to go out to dinner at
- 49:54Speaker 3: a steak I had a dessert, and man, this tribulation
- 49:59Speaker 3: living pretty tough, you know, so we all let me
- 50:04Speaker 3: say it this way. I think we failed to grasp
- 50:09Speaker 3: the severity of the seven year tribulation. So, for example,
- 50:14Speaker 3: if you if we were to go back to nineteen fifteen,
- 50:17Speaker 3: nineteen sixteen, World War one, nineteen eighteen, right the Spanish
- 50:20Speaker 3: flu epidemic, you know, or even going into living in
- 50:25Speaker 3: some places, you go back to those times, you know,
- 50:28Speaker 3: maybe in the in the the thirties with the basically
- 50:31Speaker 3: Great Depression. There has been major times of war, millions,
- 50:36Speaker 3: tens of millions of people dead, you know, World War one,
- 50:39Speaker 3: World War two, I mean, the whole thing. And you're
- 50:41Speaker 3: sitting there. There's no money, things are technology, of course,
- 50:45Speaker 3: I mean obviously economics are down. You'd be going, this
- 50:49Speaker 3: is it now? Right now? Are we are?
- 50:52Speaker 1: We?
- 50:53Speaker 3: Do we have it as bad as then? No? That
- 50:56Speaker 3: was way worse in every every conceivable way again, and economics, famines, pestilences,
- 51:01Speaker 3: et cetera. So if we talk about here's what I
- 51:05Speaker 3: want to say on the on the normal living, whatever difficulties,
- 51:09Speaker 3: I do think difficulties are coming for the Church just
- 51:12Speaker 3: in general before the rapture. But even that is going
- 51:16Speaker 3: to be quote relatively normal compared to other points of
- 51:20Speaker 3: history over the last one hundred years somewhere, so even
- 51:24Speaker 3: for the West. So when you think about the way
- 51:28Speaker 3: that all of that discourse or the relation describes the
- 51:31Speaker 3: seven year Tribulation, as we just billion, seven billion dead,
- 51:35Speaker 3: six billion dead, I mean all the economics or a
- 51:38Speaker 3: loaf of bread is two hundred bucks. I mean you
- 51:42Speaker 3: take that, that is absolutely severe, and it doesn't get better,
- 51:46Speaker 3: it gets worse. So anything apart any difficulty, now World
- 51:51Speaker 3: War one is going to be relatively normal living compared
- 51:55Speaker 3: to that. And we're still not even there yet. So
- 51:58Speaker 3: I think we got to be careful that even though
- 52:00Speaker 3: I think things are going to continue to get more challenging,
- 52:03Speaker 3: we're still relatively normal living compared to the seven year Tribulation.
- 52:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've often told you know a lot of
- 52:10Speaker 1: posts trip folk, you know that that we have to
- 52:14Speaker 1: go through the tribulation and be purified. And I said,
- 52:16Speaker 1: if you truly believe that, if you think that persecution
- 52:20Speaker 1: is a purifying thing, and most of them would say
- 52:24Speaker 1: it is. It's going to weed out the fake Christians
- 52:26Speaker 1: from the true Christians. And I'm like, well, why haven't
- 52:28Speaker 1: you gone over to North Korea yet and become a missionary?
- 52:31Speaker 3: Well, be purified baby, yep.
- 52:32Speaker 2: No, yeah, if that's what it is, then then go,
- 52:35Speaker 2: well what's keeping you here?
- 52:37Speaker 1: You know, if you can't even fathom the idea of
- 52:39Speaker 1: flying into Pyongyang and start handing out Bibles and you know,
- 52:43Speaker 1: facing whatever comes from that, what makes you think you're
- 52:46Speaker 1: going to stand one second inside the seventieth week and
- 52:49Speaker 1: be able to stand against the onslaught of everybody of everybody?
- 52:54Speaker 3: Yeah, Antichrist, the Harlot, the ten Kings, you name it, yep.
- 52:57Speaker 2: And everywhere. I mean, there's not going to bear where
- 52:59Speaker 2: you've been hiding, all right. This is from Vicky Gage.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Number eight.
- 53:03Speaker 1: Texas is planning on bringing the Bible back into schools.
- 53:06Speaker 1: I can't help but think that this is the one
- 53:08Speaker 1: world religion. I didn't think of it that way necessarily.
- 53:13Speaker 1: I think of it as kind of a pushback against
- 53:16Speaker 1: the Islam and Hinduism and all the other different religions
- 53:21Speaker 1: that are coming into Texas well.
- 53:25Speaker 3: I mean, you know more obviously you live there. With
- 53:27Speaker 3: the stuff I've read is it's not even so much
- 53:29Speaker 3: that it's going to be it's not going to be
- 53:31Speaker 3: a doctoral textbook. I mean, look, if you go back
- 53:34Speaker 3: to the early founding of the country, Congress paid money
- 53:38Speaker 3: to print Bibles, and so it was you know, that
- 53:40Speaker 3: was the Bible was your primer for most reading. So
- 53:44Speaker 3: and it was religion was taught, prayer was everywhere in schools.
- 53:47Speaker 3: It was completely fundamentally approved. So I don't see Texas
- 53:51Speaker 3: doing that. I see them as as bringing it in
- 53:54Speaker 3: in such a way for literature. It's even said that
- 53:56Speaker 3: it's going to be for literature. Of course, the take
- 53:58Speaker 3: commandments are going to be out there, but it's it's
- 54:00Speaker 3: one of those things that's a slippery slope, because you know, yes,
- 54:06Speaker 3: I would love having kids read the Bible like they
- 54:08Speaker 3: like they've done for centuries. But on the other hand,
- 54:11Speaker 3: when you open the door for religion religious book, do
- 54:15Speaker 3: I want the Bible sitting next to the Koran and
- 54:17Speaker 3: all of a sudden, these kids having access to the
- 54:19Speaker 3: Koran or what you know? That to me, that's it's
- 54:23Speaker 3: an interesting tension because on one hand, if I had
- 54:26Speaker 3: the choice, would I eliminate all books just to make
- 54:28Speaker 3: sure that the Koran never showed up? I don't know,
- 54:33Speaker 3: that would be the tension.
- 54:34Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I don't know either.
- 54:38Speaker 1: I just kind of imagine the Ten Commandments going back
- 54:41Speaker 1: up on the wall or you know, them using it
- 54:43Speaker 1: from a literary standpoint of comparing text, you know, historical
- 54:49Speaker 1: the Bible, you know, reading a Psalm or something like that,
- 54:53Speaker 1: you know, just like you would read.
- 54:56Speaker 2: Fail Wolf or something. You know, like it would be
- 54:58Speaker 2: kind of in that same genre.
- 54:59Speaker 1: But that's the way number nine from to the dude,
- 55:03Speaker 1: do you think fallen angels are creating hybrids?
- 55:06Speaker 2: Again?
- 55:06Speaker 1: Like before the flood my Bible study guys look at
- 55:09Speaker 1: me like I'm an alien for matching it.
- 55:13Speaker 3: Well, there's there's nothing specifically in the Bible that speaks
- 55:22Speaker 3: like quote Bible and verse that says fallen angels are
- 55:25Speaker 3: going to be producing you know, Nephelene type hybrids at
- 55:29Speaker 3: the end of the age. Okay, However, so again, God
- 55:33Speaker 3: hasn't given us all of the of the things that
- 55:35Speaker 3: we would want to know. However, when you look at
- 55:37Speaker 3: the facts of the entire abduction phenomenon, going back for decade,
- 55:43Speaker 3: there's a book out there by doctor David Jacobs called
- 55:47Speaker 3: Walking among Us where he and his research to PhD.
- 55:52Speaker 3: He's looking at abduction stories and he can't help but
- 55:56Speaker 3: bring these these these collections together, legitimate collections, credible showing
- 56:02Speaker 3: that there's there's been efforts by some group to create hybrids,
- 56:07Speaker 3: human hybrids, and so and they are walking amongst us.
- 56:10Speaker 3: He calls them hubrids human hybrids. So in that sense, yes,
- 56:16Speaker 3: I think people are ignorant of the data that is
- 56:20Speaker 3: out there by many prominent you know, Harvard PhDs and
- 56:25Speaker 3: others that have been studying this phenomenon for a long time.
- 56:29Speaker 3: So that evidence is it's undisputable that they have tried
- 56:34Speaker 3: to make hybrids and that they have been doing that. Now,
- 56:38Speaker 3: again I can't quote a Bible vers on it. So
- 56:40Speaker 3: here we have secular data that's providing a narrative. So
- 56:44Speaker 3: in that sense, I would not be surprised based on
- 56:47Speaker 3: Genesis six. And obviously after the flood that you have
- 56:52Speaker 3: the fallen angels seeking to create an army, or seeking
- 56:55Speaker 3: to create hybrids, seeking to disrupt the genetic material of humanity,
- 57:00Speaker 3: or introducing other things. I mean we've seen a lot
- 57:03Speaker 3: of that, even in our stuff with La Marsuli and Peru.
- 57:05Speaker 3: Some of the pracous clearly those aren't normal humans. They
- 57:09Speaker 3: have genetic modifications. So that's how I would answer.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think that Satan probably fills out numbered.
- 57:16Speaker 1: At least he's you know, down by two thirds against
- 57:20Speaker 1: the Holy Angels, so he's trying to build as much
- 57:23Speaker 1: forces as.
- 57:23Speaker 2: That he can.
- 57:24Speaker 1: And if it's through these entities that they're creating, they're
- 57:28Speaker 1: not creating them like God creates, like ex Nihilo. They're
- 57:31Speaker 1: just creating these I don't know what else to call them,
- 57:34Speaker 1: but meat suits and suits that are possessed by demons.
- 57:37Speaker 1: Presumably they're trying to give bodies for demons, you know,
- 57:41Speaker 1: create bodies for these demons, all the demonic hosts that
- 57:44Speaker 1: don't have bodies.
- 57:45Speaker 2: Okay, last question from Good Breakfast, what are your nutshell
- 57:50Speaker 2: thoughts on the multiple earthquakes. It seems people would turn
- 57:54Speaker 2: to Christ in these disasters.
- 57:57Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think back for earthquakes haven't been
- 58:03Speaker 3: a stranger to humanity, especially going remember the December twenty
- 58:07Speaker 3: sixth of two thousand and four, or you know, would
- 58:09Speaker 3: cause the big tsunami, you know, or even the Fukushima situation.
- 58:15Speaker 3: No doubt God has allowed these things and these are
- 58:19Speaker 3: these are big, but they were only sevens. But nevertheless,
- 58:23Speaker 3: what the person said at the tail end is God
- 58:26Speaker 3: uses all things for his glory. You know, we have
- 58:31Speaker 3: earthquakes in effect Christians and non Christians, storms, tornadoes that
- 58:35Speaker 3: kill Christians and non Christians. So all of those things
- 58:37Speaker 3: are We live in a fall in the world, and
- 58:40Speaker 3: God is looking to use any and every opportunity. Not
- 58:43Speaker 3: that he causes those necessarily, I'm not saying that, but
- 58:46Speaker 3: that he he seeks to make good out of every
- 58:48Speaker 3: every tragic situation. And there is a lot of tragedy
- 58:51Speaker 3: right now, I mean, no doubt.
- 58:53Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm hearkening back to Romans eight where
- 58:58Speaker 1: it's talking about creation groaning.
- 59:00Speaker 2: We see, I'll close on this one. For the creation,
- 59:04Speaker 2: this is in verse twenty of Romans eight. For the
- 59:07Speaker 2: creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of
- 59:11Speaker 2: Him who've subjected it. In hope, because the creation itself
- 59:15Speaker 2: will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the
- 59:18Speaker 2: glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know
- 59:21Speaker 2: that the whole world, the whole creation, groans and labors
- 59:24Speaker 2: with birth pains and together until now. Not only that,
- 59:28Speaker 2: but we also who have the first fruits of the spirits,
- 59:31Speaker 2: even we ourselves grown within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption,
- 59:35Speaker 2: the redemption of our body. I think that I think
- 59:39Speaker 2: the world like us are.
- 59:40Speaker 1: We know we're in the season, and as it gets closer,
- 59:42Speaker 1: we can see everything kind of coming together.
- 59:44Speaker 2: We get this kind of like.
- 59:49Speaker 1: I don't know that it's the same spirit, right, the
- 59:51Speaker 1: Holy Spirit is kind of like genderness up and saying, hey,
- 59:55Speaker 1: it's getting closed, it's getting close. You know, we can
- 59:57Speaker 1: sense it, we can feel it. And I think creation
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: feels that too. And I think that, you know, with
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: all the way the tectonic plates are, you know, shifting,
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: and you get one earthquake here, it rocks it over
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: here on this other side.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: And at least the Pacific plates like that a lot.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: But yeah, I think Creation is growing waiting, it's done,
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: it's waiting for it's waiting to be delivered from this corruption.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: And anyways, thank you Mondo for coming on tonight. You
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: got any closing thoughts for anybody?
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: You know, I would just say that what I've been
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: feeling lately is I think all of us want to
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: get out of here yesterday. You know, we do. We're excited,
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: and I think when there are when there is delays
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: or what seems like delays. You know, if God said, hey, listen, guys,
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: it's going to be ten more years, we'd freak out.
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: Ten more years and God to say, hey, look, you know,
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: humanity's been here for millennia, and so you only got
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: to wait ten That's not really a long time in comparison.
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: So I'm not saying ten years. I'm just saying that
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: no matter what I think we can get naturally, we
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: get impatient. And but on the other hand, we're excited.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: And I don't fault anybody. I've been excited to get
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: out of here. But in the meantime, I just I
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: just want to encourage people not to become discouraged when
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: we see things going in a certain way or going
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: in a way that we don't like. Or look, God
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: has called us to be here at this time, and
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: we're here to watch. I mean, we are going to
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: watch the setup. We're watching the setup. We're watching immorality
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: tecond tivoty three, twelve and thirteen tell us it's gonna
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: get worse and worse. This is what we're watching. We're watching,
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: you know, things unfold. So but I also think there's
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: going to be a risk to be discouraged because it's
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: going to get so dark. But God has said I
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: called you for here, I'm equipping you to be a
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: light in this time. So stay strong.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: I can imagine if you brought like Charles Spurgeon back
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: from the past and bring him into the future and
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: let him see the shape of the world, he would
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: just fall on his He's weeping at the state of
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: the world today.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: Say what happened? What you guys do? What did you
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: guys not do? Hey, bro, we're trying, I know, and
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: we're you know, as bad as it is.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: I mean, just think about it.
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: We've been we've been growing up in this and we've
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: been the pot and the frog in the water, you know,
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: so to speak. We're used to the water getting warm,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: and now it's starting to get uncomfortable, you know, and
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: we're just now starting to like call things out.
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: Not just now, but I mean, I know people have
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: been calling out the.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: State of things, like Leonard Ravenhill and others for you know, decades,
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: but it just it really is.
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: It's we're in the upside down world right now.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: It's just completely everything is being evil, is being called
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: good and good as being called evil.
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: So that's exactly what Jesus said would be like.
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: So, well, guys, thank you for coming out tonight, for
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Like I said at the beginning,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: I'll be at Guthrie, Oklahoma. What month is June July
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: twenty sixth, and then mid August for Roseberg, Oregon. September
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: eleventh and twelfth and four Collins with Mondo here, and
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: then you're in the UK, will be at Belfast the
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: Victory Church there and I think September twenty fifth or
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: the twenty seventh, so, and then Ohio is the end
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: of Ohio or the Ohio's in October. Now that's going
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: to be October twenty fourth, I think is the weekend.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: It's like the last weekend before Halloween.
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: I'm correct in that.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's Saturday the twenty fourth in northern Ohio
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: is up near Michigan.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: And then nowhere in November that I know of just yet.
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: But then in December Prophecy Watchers Conference. What are the
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: dates on that?
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: Again? December tenth through thirteenth, tenth.
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: Through the thirteenth in Branson, Missouri. So that is something
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. If we're still here, you know,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: we just so thank you guys, thanks for coming out
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: tonight and moderators appreciate all that you do for the channel,
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: and we'll see you guys soon. I don't have any
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: appearances anywhere that I know of, unless i'm completely forgetting
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: somebody off the top of my head, and I'm sure
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: i'll get a nasty Graham after this, like, hey, you
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: forgot to mention this, but i'll see if nothing else,
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: I'll see you guys next Monday.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: So take care of God bless and we'll catch you
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: next time. Maryonn Atha