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Best of the Bus: Maxx Crosby On Being The Biggest All-Pro Snub + Tom Brady In Vegas · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: What's up boys on this best of the Bus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a series where we drop a best of every Saturday
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  Speaker 1: and recap some of our favorite episodes, throwing it all
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  Speaker 1: the way back to when Max Crosby came on the bus.
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  Speaker 1: The boys were in Vegas before the twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: season with the one and only Max Crosby, Mad Max
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  Speaker 1: just elite specimen specimen of a pass rusher in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Max opened up about his goals and how he's leveling
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  Speaker 1: up for next season and what it was like playing
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  Speaker 1: with Ab and DeVante Adams. He also gets real on
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  Speaker 1: the Derek Carr situation. He will drop a monologue that'll
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  Speaker 1: make you run three brick wall and get your piss hot.
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  Speaker 1: Big hugs, tiny kisses. Enjoy this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Bust with
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  Speaker 2: the Boys. Obviously, we are not on the bus right now.
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  Speaker 2: We are in a pristine locationknown unknown in Las Vegas, Nevada,
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  Speaker 2: at the home of the legendary Max Cross. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're at home right now, go ahead and give him
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  Speaker 2: a round of applause.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do it too.
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  Speaker 4: Appreciate you, guys, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: This is an outstanding place. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you move into this residence?
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  Speaker 3: We moved into May.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I lived about three minutes away before and me
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  Speaker 4: and Rachel were looking at houses for a long time
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  Speaker 4: and it was a very stressful Brooklyn, very stressful situation.
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  Speaker 4: You know, We're going back and forth arguing I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I was at the point where I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm done looking at houses, like until I get my contract,
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm done. And then all of a sudden, my
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  Speaker 4: boys come in town. We're going to the UFC event
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  Speaker 4: that weekend, and Rachel's like, there's this one house we
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  Speaker 4: got to see, you know whatever. I'm like, I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: I'm seriously, I'm done. I'm done looking at houses. She
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  Speaker 4: pulls me in the car. We're going. We drive around
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  Speaker 4: the corner and that was it. We literally put an
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  Speaker 4: offer on this house that that same day. So really
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  Speaker 4: and this is this house.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there is a weird was that I said. He
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  Speaker 5: knew that bag was coming.
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  Speaker 3: He knew the BA.
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  Speaker 2: But when the bag is not secured yet, you do
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  Speaker 2: start playing the game of like, man, I wonder where
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  Speaker 2: I could get and you start, you get on the
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  Speaker 2: Zillow app and you're looking.
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  Speaker 3: At the things. All right, this is what I can
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  Speaker 3: get right now.
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  Speaker 2: But if I get this contract, I could go and
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  Speaker 2: get that that it's a crazy game you play in
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  Speaker 2: your head.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's the best.
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  Speaker 2: Was that like a stressful time for you? Like before
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  Speaker 2: contract stuff was.
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  Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't say stressful, Like it was honestly like
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  Speaker 4: a good stress Like you know, the situation like it's hard,
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  Speaker 4: you don't know, like you want to get to your number,
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  Speaker 4: like you're really hell bent, okay on this boom, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not going below this. But then in the situation, like
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  Speaker 4: when it really came down to it, I you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're never going to get exactly what you want. But
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I got enough
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  Speaker 4: where I don't have to you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about money anymore. So like
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  Speaker 4: that's the ultimate goal. But it's you know, for me,
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  Speaker 4: it's not really about the money. Like my I've always
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  Speaker 4: heard from coaches everything, like they're like the second contracts
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  Speaker 4: what the NFL is all about. And for me, like
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  Speaker 4: I've always thought about, I always try to do above
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  Speaker 4: and beyond, Like my goal is to get a third contract,
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  Speaker 4: like I want to be the highest paid in a
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  Speaker 4: few years. Like that's that's my ultimate goal. So like
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  Speaker 4: this contract was a big deal for me, Like I'm set,
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  Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, like I want
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  Speaker 4: to reset the market. So like that's like my goal
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  Speaker 4: for sure, one of my goals. How long are you
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  Speaker 4: want to play? Twelve to probably twelve to thirteen just depending.
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  Speaker 4: I honestly don't know, but like I don't, like we
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  Speaker 4: just talked about, I don't ever want to step on
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  Speaker 4: the field and feel like like not like myself. Like
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  Speaker 4: that's what I'll know, Like if I get to that point,
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  Speaker 4: gonna be done.
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  Speaker 2: Because there are players that, like young, when they're younger
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  Speaker 2: in their career, they play super hard. Like we were
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  Speaker 2: in the car driving here, and like the adjective I
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  Speaker 2: think we use for you is like, did you play relentless?
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  Speaker 3: You play hard?
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  Speaker 2: And when sometimes when dudes play that hard, dead puts
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  Speaker 2: some wear on the tires. And then dudes get older
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  Speaker 2: and they have to change up their game a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and you're not you don't want to sacrifice that.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, you know, honestly, I've I've always kind of
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  Speaker 4: had that mindset, like ever since I, you know, started
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  Speaker 4: playing football. Like I truly believe there's only one way
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  Speaker 4: to play. And yeah, if I if I'm playing and
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  Speaker 4: being cautious about jumping in piles and things like that,
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  Speaker 4: like I probably shouldn't be playing. And yeah, like I
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  Speaker 4: just want to look back in my career and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he put a great body of work. I don't want
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  Speaker 4: the last thing they remember it is like my old
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  Speaker 4: ass trying to bend the edge and falling over and
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that's the last thing I want, you know,
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  Speaker 4: for me, I really want to go out on my terms,
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  Speaker 4: because there's most guys don't. And that's kind of the
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  Speaker 4: hard thing about this business. Like I you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not in control. I don't know you know, what's going
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  Speaker 4: to happen in the future, but like I know the
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  Speaker 4: preparation I put into it. I do everything I can
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  Speaker 4: to try to be at my best and be able
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  Speaker 4: to play that way. So you know, that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: my my long term goals. But I'm just literally just
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  Speaker 4: trying to stay in the present. That's it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost like how do you know? You know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean? Like if you're if you end on
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  Speaker 5: if you end on a high note, right, the competitive
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  Speaker 5: nature in everybody is you continue to go. It's like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't feel like you would actually find out if
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  Speaker 5: you've lost a step unless you had a year where
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  Speaker 5: it's like, oh yeah, maybe maybe I don't have it
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  Speaker 5: like I did the year before, year prior. So it's
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  Speaker 5: almost like how do you know? Because you're almost you're
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  Speaker 5: also addicted to all the success as well. Yeah you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like, how do you feel like
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  Speaker 5: you would know?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like like that's a great question.
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  Speaker 5: His oldest being around the edge. I feel like that
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't happen unless it's like week fifteen, if maybe your
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  Speaker 5: last season and you're like, fuck, maybe I am slowing down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah no, that's that's true. You never, like I feel
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  Speaker 4: like you're never gonna know, like exactly. But it's just
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  Speaker 4: like like JJ, like I feel like it's a mental
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  Speaker 4: thing too, like you know when you're done. Like there's
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  Speaker 4: guys like I feel like there's certain like even I
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  Speaker 4: know Sean McVay, Like I don't know all the story,
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  Speaker 4: but like I know how he works and people talk
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  Speaker 4: about his work ethic like he's like when he's in it,
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  Speaker 4: like Seas twenty four to seven, he doesn't stop, and
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  Speaker 4: like people are saying he might take a break, and
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  Speaker 4: there's rumors of that just because of how he is.
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  Speaker 4: So like if I ever get to that point where
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  Speaker 4: I'm like sick of it and like I'm really not
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  Speaker 4: enjoying it, and I'm you know, I'm at that point
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  Speaker 4: where it's like I'm you know, I've already I've given
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  Speaker 4: everything I got to it, Like it's time to just
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  Speaker 4: you know, call it a career. Like I know that.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'll know when that day comes. Like
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  Speaker 4: even jj Watt, like you've seen he's bawling like he
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  Speaker 4: had just had twelve and a half sackses here and
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  Speaker 4: he's just like I'm done, but he knows he kind
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  Speaker 4: of hit that limit. He played what twelve years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Brady.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it's different though, Like he's he's not taking
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  Speaker 4: big yets running and putting his shoulders and shit, so
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  Speaker 4: like that's different. Like I feel like, especially playing up front,
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  Speaker 4: you know Taylor, like it's a lot and it's every
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  Speaker 4: single day in practice, like a quarterback's not taking any
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  Speaker 4: damage during the week. They're not doing it during the
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  Speaker 4: offseason like we do it all the time all year round.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, like my goal, Like there's there's main goals
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  Speaker 4: I want to hit, Like I want to be the
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  Speaker 4: Raiders all time sack leader, Like that's something that's like
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  Speaker 4: big on my checklist. Like there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 4: that I want to hit before I'm done. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just gonna stay in the present. That's
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  Speaker 4: all i can do. But when that day comes, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I'll know what is the all time sack
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  Speaker 4: leading I think it's one oh seven and a half
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  Speaker 4: Greg Townsend.
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  Speaker 5: So you're at one hundred sacks year ten eight? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: let's say okay, yeah, yeah, let's say you're at a
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  Speaker 5: hundred sacks year eight, but you're losing a step, but
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  Speaker 5: you need seven sacks to get that all time sack.
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  Speaker 5: Do you come back the next year to get to
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  Speaker 5: check your boxes where you feel like you're close?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I like this is different.
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  Speaker 4: Like if I'm in year eight and I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I'm losing a step, then maybe I'm not doing something right,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like maybe that's.
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  Speaker 5: Weelie, you're so fucking relentless all the time, Like maybe you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, nah, that's I'm still young, bro, like I'm twenty
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  Speaker 4: five and I'm going into my fifth year, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, Like if I'm not if like just
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  Speaker 4: looking at it from like there's you look at the
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  Speaker 4: Kobe's the gods like that, like they work relentlessly. They
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  Speaker 4: were able to play twenty years. I know it's a
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  Speaker 4: different sport, but like even the NFL guys, like I know,
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  Speaker 4: injuries are injuries happen, like that's a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I feel like if you do all
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  Speaker 4: the right things, you carry your body, do sleep well,
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  Speaker 4: recover well, do all the shit right, you practice right,
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  Speaker 4: keep keep ahead of things, like you'll be fine. And
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  Speaker 4: and that's how like I played almost eleven hundred snaps
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  Speaker 4: this year, Like I played a ton of snaps, but like.
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  Speaker 3: I feel good, like I could go.
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  Speaker 4: I could start training tomorrow if I really wanted to,
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  Speaker 4: but I have to force myself to slow down. So
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  Speaker 4: like I'm not fucking stupid. I don't think like I'm
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  Speaker 4: above other people, and I don't, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: That's not how I look at it, but like I
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  Speaker 4: just I feel like if I just keep doing the
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  Speaker 4: right things, but I'll be able to kind of control
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  Speaker 4: my destiny.
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  Speaker 5: And I was more trying to give it a hypothetical love
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  Speaker 5: you're slowing down, but you're also right there on the
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  Speaker 5: cusp of a couple of those check checks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to yeah, I'm going to get I'm will play.
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  Speaker 4: One year and if I go and out four sacks,
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  Speaker 4: then yeah it's time. But like I'm a yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: a definitely, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: I guess it would be like, you know, it wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: be like year twelve or thirteen, where.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty seven and a half, Okay, that's pretty all right.
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  Speaker 5: What are other goals on that?
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  Speaker 4: What are other goals on that list?
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  Speaker 3: There's that oh my bad, uh put it to your mouth.
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  Speaker 4: There's a few like that, Like I want to be
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  Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame. That's something I want to
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  Speaker 4: be in. I want to be the Raiders all time
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  Speaker 4: sack leader. You know, there's there's a lot of things.
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  Speaker 4: I can't say everything, but like there's like the main
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  Speaker 4: goals like I want to be definitely do that, but
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  Speaker 4: I want to I want to have a career where
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  Speaker 4: like when people look back, like the biggest thing for me,
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  Speaker 4: like the numbers and shit is cool, Like the jacket,
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  Speaker 4: all that shit's cool, but like my main focus is
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  Speaker 4: like trying to impact the way the game is played.
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  Speaker 4: Like I feel like in the NFL now there's a
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  Speaker 4: there's only a few guys that you really look at
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  Speaker 4: and are like, damn, he's just fucking he's different. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what it is, like just the way he plays,
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  Speaker 4: Like I watch like Chris Jones and like Michael Parsons
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  Speaker 4: and those guys, like there's just something different when they're
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  Speaker 4: out on the field, Like it's like a presence, and
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  Speaker 4: like that's what I want to lead back. Like when
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  Speaker 4: people look back and talk about me, they're not going
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  Speaker 4: to talk about the stats at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: They don't talk about Lawrence Taylor's sacks. They talk about
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  Speaker 4: when that dude is on the field, he's a fucking
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  Speaker 4: animal like and that's that's that's the way I look
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  Speaker 4: at it, Like inspiring kids, Inspiring kids, Like I want
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  Speaker 4: to be that guy that kids want to be like
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  Speaker 4: like I want That's that's what matters most to me.
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  Speaker 4: So if it's six years and I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 4: losing a step, like then it is what it is
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  Speaker 4: like and I and I'll know I'm done. But like
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I feel like
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  Speaker 4: the impact I leave on the game, I want to
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  Speaker 4: be I want to bring that back, like the old
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  Speaker 4: school way of playing football, flying to the ball, not
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  Speaker 4: giving a ship, like throwing my body Like that's that's
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  Speaker 4: what I feel like is missing nowadays.
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  Speaker 2: For sure from an inspiration standpoint, when you were playing
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  Speaker 2: at Eastern Michigan of all places in Ipsilany, which is wild,
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  Speaker 2: like how you were there.
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  Speaker 5: Shot at the boys and its way better than the bast.
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  Speaker 2: Man until this year, until this like when you're when
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  Speaker 2: you're playing, like obviously the first person that comes to
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  Speaker 2: mind somebody you've already like two or three times as
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  Speaker 2: JJ Watt, was that like your guy at Eastern?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at Eastern. I liked.
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  Speaker 4: I was a big JJ fan, like when I first
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  Speaker 4: started playing DM, Like my first year playing DM was
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  Speaker 4: I was a senior in high school, so I was
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  Speaker 4: new to the position. I'm like, who's the best at
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  Speaker 4: what I do? So like JJ at that time was
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  Speaker 4: like Superman. So I definitely I like watching JJ. But
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  Speaker 4: there's a ton of guys like I love Jared Allen
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  Speaker 4: growing up. There's a ton and it's not just defensive
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  Speaker 4: ends like I played growing up. I was a middle
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  Speaker 4: linebacker the whole time until my senior year. So like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I could go on and on about different players,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, I watch everybody, and I just I want
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  Speaker 4: to be like unique, like somebody not just another guy,
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  Speaker 4: another hard working, Like I going to be somebody to
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  Speaker 4: look back. It is like damn, like in that time,
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  Speaker 4: like this dude was just different than most dudes.
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  Speaker 2: Because JJ was one of those dudes who like fought
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  Speaker 2: through the fringe. Like when I first got to Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: it was like that was when JJ was was JJ.
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  Speaker 3: It was terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, he went through like a three
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  Speaker 2: four years where he like played six games, played nine games,
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  Speaker 2: like didn't really play a whole lot, and he could
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  Speaker 2: have easily been where we've been. What we've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about was like is he losing a step? Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: he goes back to the Cardinals and like, you say,
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  Speaker 2: you had twelve sacks this year, but LOOKI was balling
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 5: It's a competitive I feel like it's like that competitive fire.
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  Speaker 2: Like also the fight of being like this can't be
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  Speaker 2: the end for me, Like I need to make this
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  Speaker 2: comeback real.
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  Speaker 5: But you're in it. Though, like you're in your own
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  Speaker 5: Like some people could objectively say, like maybe you are
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  Speaker 5: losing a step, but I guess only you know. But
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  Speaker 5: then that's obsession of being so uber competitive. Maybe you
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  Speaker 5: don't necessarily know it, but you keep going back right
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  Speaker 5: for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the thing too. Guys like the game you
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  Speaker 4: evolve like over time, like especially like even if some
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  Speaker 4: guys are a little bit older, that's the thing too.
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  Speaker 4: Like my game is from my rookie year to now,
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  Speaker 4: it's like pull it, you know what I mean, I've gone.
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  Speaker 4: It's not even like the same person I watched my film,
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  Speaker 4: So even I feel like it's when you get older, too,
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  Speaker 4: Like you see a guy like this I always refer
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  Speaker 4: to the NBA, but like you see James Harden, like
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  Speaker 4: he used to be dropping forty a game every night
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  Speaker 4: and now he's like a pass first, he's leading the
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  Speaker 4: league and assist because he's lost the step, but he's
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  Speaker 4: also like the best passer in the league now and
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  Speaker 4: he's just evolved as a player. So yeah, I feel
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  Speaker 4: like that's the thing. Like I have this vision of
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  Speaker 4: what I want by handing to look like and how
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be, but like I truly don't know, Like
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  Speaker 4: I really don't know. I just I just try to
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  Speaker 4: stay stay in the day, bro, And if I can
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  Speaker 4: maximize every day and do what I do, like it's
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  Speaker 4: just gonna work out the way it's supposed to. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's not that's not under my control.
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  Speaker 3: Going now, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna switch a subject, but if you're staying
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  Speaker 5: on there, No, I was just I was.
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  Speaker 2: Playing till Like everyone everyone really has this, like everyone's
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  Speaker 2: writing their own little story in their head and they're
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  Speaker 2: like they're narrating their own story. Like if I do this,
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  Speaker 2: like it's gonna look like this, and like you're literally
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: watching yourself daydream of how it's all going to end.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Everyone plays it out, and you're right, like a lot
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: of dudes can't go out in their own terms. Like
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of people like uh, Like for me, two
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: acls in three years, it's like I was on top
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: of the world before that, and I thought, oh man,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: I'm getting this jacket, Like we're gonna keep going and
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: things just switch up on you and you have to
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: learn to pivot and be happy with what you done.
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's it?
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: What's it like being Brian Baldinger is one of his
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: favorite players. I feel like my man is always shouting
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: you out because of what you talk about the impact
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: on the game. I feel like he does a great
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: job of spotlighting that and showing that the commodore whether
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: or not you're getting this stat of a sack, the
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: way you affect the game. What's it like like having
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: a legend like that talk about you multiple times throughout
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: the year.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome.
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: You know, ever since my rookie year, for some reason,
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: like my first game that I really got to play
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: in was an Indianapolis game. I think it was week
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: four of my rookie year, and he put a video
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: out and he made up the condor nickname and all
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: this stuff, and I was like throwing off.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: I'm like, damn likely juicy.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: He narrates that stuff like he's some fire. The comment,
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: the whole thing is classic. So it's like when he's
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: first started doing that, like I reached out back to
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: him and I was like, man, I was like, I appreciate.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: It means the world.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: And then you know, I just as my career's gone,
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: he's always doing videos and now like we'll talk like
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: before you know, after a game. I'll be like, go
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: go watch what I did on this third down, and
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: he'll check it out and be like and we'll just
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: have conversations back and forth.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: He loves he.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Loves football, bro. And that's that's the type of people
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: I like to like to associate myself with. So, you know,
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: like Marinelli and those guys, Like I talked to Marionelli
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: to this day every day, Like I was just saw
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: him in Texas. I was just on the phone with
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: them like two hours ago. Like he's one of those
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: guys that like I need in my life to keep
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Like everybody has those people, especially like in your sport,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: that you like just have a different level of respect
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: for and like Baldy and like Marinelli, those guys like
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: I constantly even when I'm not training, like right now,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I have a couple of weeks to kind of get
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: off my feet, like just I need it, Like it's
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: my part of like my addiction, Like I love playing football.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: So having those guys just talkball and just feed me
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: knowledge is really cool.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: How do you get the commodore nickname the condor Condors comedy?
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: What is a commando that like down Dude's similar?
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, similar schools.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: How did you get that nickname?
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: It was just from Baldinger. I think it was that. Yeah,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I guess the wingspan you.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Do have like a solid cave man like knuckles touch
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: and knees.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: That's a big that's a big compent. You want them.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Them things are flying to when you're yeah, I've I've
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: heard a lot of different weird you watch your film.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: You see them in the.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Right guard when you're playing.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: See that's the funny thing. Bro, Like and this is weird,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: and y'all can believe me or not. But when I
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: went to the combine, I'm like, you know, everyone's always
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: told me that, like, bro, you got long arm, like
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: your long athlete. I went to the combine, I was
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: like almost the bottom. When it came to wingspan, they
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: were like, I swear to god, they had articles uh
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the Eastern Michigan Because like, I did good at the
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: combines with people start talking about me more. But they're like, yeah,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know his wingspan short and blah blah blah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, what was your It was like it
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: was like six ten wingspan. I don't know my arm length.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: It was like I tell you six five oh.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I think it's a dub.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: If your wingspan is longer than your boy.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Know, that's what you got them, Stubby wings wrestler in
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: his podcast to relax, you got to pull his shoulders way.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to hit that ball the other day in
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: the shop and all I can't. I can't get it started.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta kind of bounce the ball.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: You do, got them little stuff, but they make your
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: arms are bigger though that way, like long arms, the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: arms don't look as big.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know. It's weird. Brota small torsos, right,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: there's got to be something wrong. I think I got
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: a small torso. I think I got wide shoulders that
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: make my arm seem longer.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: You got no fucking yo. That's hilarious.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, Eastern Michigan. How did you end up there? It's
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: funny you brought this up.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: So yesterday my d line coach from Eastern called me
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: and he, uh, you know, we're just chopping it up
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: talking talking ball and whatever, and somehow he brings it up.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, you know, you know, it's hilarious. You know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: we we've been interviewing a new D line guy because
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: he's going to move to linebackers there at Eastern and Out.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: They're getting a new D line coach. And he was like,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Coach Creighton, my head coach. He started this thing. In
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: his interview process. He puts up five high school players
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: film and shows the D line coaches and has him
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: ranked the D lineman. He puts, like, whatever, one of
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: the guys that are trying to recruit. He puts my
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: film in there from my high school, like when I
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: was in high school, and he puts, like, you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: four other random guys. He said, So my D line coach,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: my old D line coach told me yesterday he said,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: every single coach ranks me at like fourth or fifth
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: from my school day.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: And I'm dying laughing and they don't know.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: And then they're like, yeah, you know that's Max Crosby, right,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: and they're like they all get awkward, awkward, But.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: You just guys sit there at that meeting. I'm not
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: getting this job. It's over.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: But that's that's kind of like bro I was a
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: late bloomer, Like I was a I was a linebacker
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: all the way up to my senior year. Then we
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: got these new coaches, and I had a big roastpurt,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: but like my body, I wasn't caught up, like Bro,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: my knees were hurt and I was slow twitch as fucked.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Like if you watched my high school film and be like, yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not surprised he went to Eastern, like I was surprised.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I got a D one offer. They were the only
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: d one to offer me. Bro, They're my only offer
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: in general. So like I got that offer, I jumped
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: on it, committed and boom and then yeah, are you
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: a basketball guy?
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I played basketball? Yeah I could. I could buckets
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: playing the paint. I was.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I was like a you know, like a stretch for
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: kind of guy. I could shoot, I could shoot the ball.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I sort of God, I would I rather shoot than
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: be on the block. Like, I'm not a back to
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: the basket gay. I'm catching the ball at the top.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: You can't get to the lane hammer paint guy, Absolutely not,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: you can't. I can rebound, but like, I'm not back
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: to the basket old school George, Mike and come on.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Can you dribble?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hide. But I have the serbian my mom.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Serbian is it's translated to the court.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Can you do the dribble between your legs?
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Can you dunk?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I could go right there? And women talking about the
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: other hoop? We have a court back then?
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Is it even regulation?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: That's probably a feet, Yeah, it's got to be a feet.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Can you do the thing where you bounce the ball
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and you pick your shirt up and the ball goes
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in and you slap it and it goes around.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: And one mixed day. Yeah, I don't think I can
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: You think you're the best basketball player on the Raiders.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think guys would tell you that too. I'm
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hide myself up. But we've all played again.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I see you over there getting a little You keep
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: like twitching a little bit like I can get. Yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: make you a little triggered that we're kind of questioning
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: your back.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it hurts, but it's it's normal for you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: being a white guy. They will always question you at first,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: But then you go on the court and you fucking.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Everywhere.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are, you are tatted? Is uh? What's it
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: like playing defense being white?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Is that tough?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: I remember when Taylor calls you, Oh, he's just another
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: normal white guy out.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: There on the Field.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Actually Will told me that story. I forgot that even happened,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: explaining that what happened that day, because I don't remember
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: when saying that to you. Remember, No, I really don't.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You told me My whole focus in that game was you.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: When we were playing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: You literally told me we were pulling up, You're like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: was Max a guy where I said, uh, there's just
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: another white guy?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: No, but yeah, because you've told me that story. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I remember in the moment saying that. I remember him
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: saying that to you.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Finally got you guys here together. Max, Will let me
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: down on like how much money I think I know
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: I was telling you, I'll give you two hundred dollars
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: per sack you got on.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Taylor or something like that. Yeah, at work. I got
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: the Titans back this year though, So I was proud
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and I love veryble.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Know about it. Did you really?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I was talking on the whole game. You're just sitting
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: there on the sideline of his hands on his knees
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: after y'all try to run that weird reverse boot ship
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and I just yeah, it was like on a third
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: down and I just jetted smoked Tannehill and I looked
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: to the silent Rabel just looking. He was right there.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I was like, stop running that ship at me, stop
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: running that ship. And he's like okay, shaking his head
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: and ship okay. But I fuck with verbel Bro. He's
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: one of those coaches. This is random, off topic, but
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: he like he text me all the time. He's cool
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: as ship. He was my coach of the Pro Bowl
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: last years.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta respect that third contract.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: You just gotta build relationships. Bring you to Nashville with
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the boys. I don't know about that, but.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Fantastic and Blue never know, you never know. Yeah, I'm
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: happy where I'm not.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: You're doing the boys in that show.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't you if they didn't want me here anymore? Yeah?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Of course, but I think, uh, I think it's gonna
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: work out.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Just dude, Rab.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: You don't know Rabel like we know veryble because he'll
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: go in meetings like on Wednesdays and Thursdays and pull
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: it tape and just dummy guys, like just verbally assault them.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And I remember playing I think it was that your
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: rookie hear we played in Oakland. That's when we played
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: each other. He would put you on the film and
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: there wasn't really a bad thing because you play hard. Yeah,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and there wasn't a bad thing. He's like this loud
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: mouth motherfucker, like just like a circle room was like
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: this guy he can't fucking touch the quarterback. Fuck this
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: guy like going off about you the whole time. And
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that's got to be a great feeling because I've had
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the same thing with like Bill O'Brien and Bill O'Brien
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: be like a seventy seven.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: He is a fake tough guy and that that hurt
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: every time.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Remember I remember going through in the defensive meeting that week,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: like the same kind of stuff.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Similarity, he's gonna try to get the whole time. Yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: it's funny, but that's like I have. You know how
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: the NFL is. You have friends on all the different teams.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: You know, a bunch of guys, Like that's the funniest
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: ship when you sit there and talk after the season
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: and they're like, yeah, in our meeting, you know, we
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: circled you and just kind of hearing what other teams
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: have to say about you, Like that's interesting. You know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: everybody has their own kind of perspective on who you
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: are as a guy. There's some teams that think I'm
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: the biggest piece of shit on the planet.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Like really, of course, like he's so loud, I'm loud,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and he he makes a play, He's like what motherfucker.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't help myself. I love it like I'm loud.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: But that's like there's there's certain teams that you could
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: tell like they're trying to fuck me up, like the
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Niners team, Like the Niners coach and all them, they
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: like buttered me up all week. They're like, man, besides Bosa,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: he's you know, he's probably the best guy. Once we
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: got to the game, they tried to send the fucking
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: house at me.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: They were doing Bro just different, weird, like the Niners blocking,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: like the schemes and shit they do. I've never experienced
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: anything like it. Like Bro, they were tackle tight end
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: both going down and the guard would fucking like they
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: were coming at angles.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: You didn't even know where the fuck they were coming from. Bro.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: It was just different.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: But like that's the thing, Like that's the coolest thing
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: about the league is like being in a position, you
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: know how it is like you're on an island the
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: whole game. You don't even have to worry about it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: So like that's your responsibilities. For me, it's the opposite.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I know, Oh they're going to be sending shit at me,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: and it's like it's a different type of challenge every week.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: And all the offensive coordinators they all got a different
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: way of approaching and it's it's cool because after the
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: games they'll talk about, Yeah, we're trying to fuck you
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: up and we're trying to do this, and I'm like, oh,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: you got me on this, but fucked you up on
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: that play. Yeah, it's cool, man, That's that's what.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: That's what leag Kyle Shanahan's so good watching their first
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: playoff game and the blocking teams are wild, wild, Like
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: there was what was the play? Oh, they like the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: tight end like went out on the end and then
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: like flashed the end as if he wasn't like he's
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: gonna block them, then went away and then Trent was there.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: That was when McCaffrey had like that long like fifty
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: five yard runs. But the blocking scheme was just so
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: unique and it's simple because you look as from offens
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: line like, oh, they're just running this play with like
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: these two little different things. But they do such a
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: good job of opening up holes. Yes, they got studs
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: all around.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, that helps as well. When
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: you got fucking between Deebo and McCaffrey like those in
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: open field, there's probably there's you can't name anybody really
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: better than them, like you got tyreeks and shit like that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: But like McCaffrey and Deebo, like an open field, they're
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: fucking electric.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Bro dangerous.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Like playing against Trent Williams.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: He's a stud. Bro, he's a stud. It was fun though,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: had we had some good battles.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Did you get one on him?
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a couple of I didn't get a
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: sack on him, but I had a nice little QB
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: hit on a little inside move. It felt good. No,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: we were talking. He's cool as ship. He's talking like
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: just having conversation. But I usually I'm a line up
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: on the left, so like I'm going to get the
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: right tackle most of the time. So once I went over,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: like we knew, like Trent's going to be on an island.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So during the game we kind of schemed it up
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: where Okay, Max, you're gonna play a little bit more
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: on Trent because you'll have more one on one opportunities
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: because they're gonna probably chip with the right tackle and stuff.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: So I got to rush against him a couple of times.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: But I've heard, well, I had some good rushes. He
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: has some good He's just a big motherfucker and he's athletics,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: so it was a it was a good matchup.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: We we got the best of each other a few times.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: That's cool.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You were telling that story on the plane about him
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and Shawn Jackson.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: They were just his athletic ability. Yeah, Like there's one
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: offseason where we were in OTAs and they were basically
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: trying to narrow down who had like the fastest start.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: So like every group, I mean, very subjective, but ten yards,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: it's kind of hard to figure out who wins everyone,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: but every position could go and then they would put
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: everybody together. But the final two were DeShawn Jackson and
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Trent Williams because he could just get out like, he's
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: extremely athletic. They were talk about him playing. They would
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: talking about playing. They said he would when they would
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: play basketball. The why that he played like beyond the arc,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: he'd win, They'll dunk like do all this stuff. He's
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: just like a super athlete. Bro.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: He's a freak.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Bro. He really is a freak. What about McGlinchey for
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: the Niners.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big deal. He's a big guy.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: He's he's a little more stiff, but I feel like
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: he's an underrated cat, like he doesn't get enough respect.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know. I thought he was solid. You know.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: It's that's a weird thing, like especially now, like I'm
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: like this year, especially like I played on the left
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: side majority of the time, and like early on when
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: me and Chandler are both going, like the chips would
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: go back and forth, so I would have some more
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: one on ones and shit, but Chan got hurt against Pittsburgh,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: and like the last few games, it was like if
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I wasn't moving around, like I'm getting there sliding and
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: they're chipping.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: So it was hard. It was really fucking difficult.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: To kind of get those true one on ones, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: especially when you're not up in games, like you don't
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: you know, there's it's a lot less you know, it's
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: a lot more predictable what they're doing. So no, I
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: got Yeah, Mike mcglinch, he's he's a big motherfucker. He
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: was he was solid. We definitely, yeah, we had we
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: had a good little, a little back and forth. It
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: was it was fun.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Bro. That's the thing with the Niners.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: There's certain teams BRO that like they just make it
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: really difficult for your D line and shit to get off.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: And that's that's always the biggest challenge. Like the New
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: England's like, you know, when you're playing New when they're
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: gonna literally do everything they can to try to stop
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: this guy in this guy And like Tennessee's like that too.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I know Rabels come from the Patriot the Patriot way too,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: So like I sit there and hear mcdaniels's like, okay,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Bosa right here. Every single time we're gonna slid, we're
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: gonna boom, we're gonna And I already know going into
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: the week, like I'm playing Bill Belichick, he's gonna try
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: to fuck me up every play. In Tennessee, I know
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Vrabel's not gonna let me just go and try to
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: wreck the game. And that's I feel like that's as
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: years have gone on, like that's been a you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: like in my game, like having to evolve, you have
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: to truly like you have to truly be on it
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: every single play because they're bringing more than one more
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: than more than less.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: It's got to be a hell of a compliment though. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: they're slide to me and chipping me. It's yeah, it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: gotta feel good.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: No, it's awesome, But at the same time, it's very frustrating.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Like that's that's like I feel like the biggest part,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Like in the past, like last year, like I was
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: getting in my head because I wasn't getting like I
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: was getting a shipload of pressures, but I wasn't getting home.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Like there was like a stretch right, like had six
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: games in a row where I didn't have a sack.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I was rushing my best, but I wasn't getting home
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: for some reason, And like that's the thing as a
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: rusher that's so difficult.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Like there's no play called for you.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: You have to go earn every single stat every play,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: every sack, every TfL.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: So like that's the challenge.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: And like people from the outside world, if you're not
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: getting sacks as a rusher, like they think you're you're
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: like not balling, you know what I mean.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Like Chandler was balling and people were.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: On his head because his sack numbers were low, and
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: like you feel like Chandler was the same guy last
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: year that I was calling, like, bro, like I don't
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: know why I can't get a fucking sack and he's
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: helping me out. So like having Chan here this year,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: like I was getting a lot of sacks and Chan was,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: you know, going through it a little bit, and like
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: being able to be there for him is like it's
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: like crazy, bro, it goes full circle because like Chan
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: is a dude. I looked up two forever. He's one
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: hundred plus sacks and he's in year eleven and he's
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: like going through it, and it's like it's tough because
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: it just shows like as a rusher, like this shit
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: is really difficult and you have to appreciate every single
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: stat and everything you get because like you could rush
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: great for the whole game, but they could just be
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: getting rid of the ball. They could be you know
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: what I mean. It's just that's the tough part about it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: But that's also like the beauty in it when there's
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: a reason why sacks are like a big thing, because
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: it's not everything's got to go right. They got to
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: hold the ball, the cover's got to be on point,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: everything's got to be you know, on point for you
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: to get home. So Chandler, Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot Yeah,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I forgot I forgot you. Chan is a fucking dog,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: but I love as a human being. The dude is
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: one of the coolest dudes. Man.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: When I was playing him in twenty twenty one, he
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: had like four sacks that day, I gave up two
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: of them, and there was like the end of the game.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: At that point in the game, I was at such
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a low point. I was like, I just need to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Of here in regroup somehow. And he like rushed me
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and he went.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: To pull away, and I had his chain and I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: tore it off, and he's like, oh man, now I'm
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: really mad.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Now I'm really coming.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I like walking back to the huddle,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: like you have four sacks, You're all right, Like just relax,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: just relax for the That was the lowest football moment.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: But look he even before I got hurt, I never
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: played him well. He always played really well against me.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Like my second year I played him, he was at
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the Patriots and like the first third down, dude, he
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: takes me back to the quarterback strip sack fumble return
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: for a touchdown. That's how the game started. First series.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Well do you think he's always done so well? Like
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: what do you feel like makes him like he's.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I don't I think like if I were to play,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: if I were to play him again, I would I
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: would vary up my sets more. He's so long and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: he does a good job, like it looks like he's
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: always on a step cadence like one two bowl one
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: two three, like turn those shoulders. And he's really long too,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: so short corners are not good against him, Like if
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you get him too like nine and a half, he's
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: got that capability to reach with the far arms and
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: get that quarter of that ball out. So it's like
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: he's got enough speed to where like I gotta respect this,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: but also he can turn in power also and then
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: dudes that and I can't remember if you play like
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: this or not, but like he doesn't necessarily like play
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: like sound run defense, like so you like when you're
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: trying to shoot off the ball like we do a Tennessee,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: he goes inside like he can jump around, like if
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: he has that kind of freedom, like that's an easy
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: way to like second guess yourself. And he he's, uh,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: he's always been He's always played me well I think
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: of all the players, like he's been a guy that's
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: always kind of have my number.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even before getting hurt. He's stud.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always Got. There's always those guys in the league.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Every year you're like, okay, I know this about it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: This one day he's about to be Yeah, like I
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: gotta be on my ship and that's yeah. Chandler's just bro.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: He's just unique. Like how he explained, he's got. He's
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: not fast, but he's got. He's not fast, and he'll
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: tell you that he knows he's not, but he's just
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: he's so long and he's so like he's just a
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: different athlete's like his brother, Like they're so long but
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: they're not fast and they probably they can't jump high,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: but they're like freak athletes.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how to explain it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: There, but like he's the game film is way different
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: than what you see, like combine numbers.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Would be exactly. He just he's just a unique, unique player.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Bro.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: He was born to play football, dud dudes, stud you.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Met his brother, no, I haven't. No, I heard he's
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: gonna fight again.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Right, He's got He's got to brothers Arthur Smith, he
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: played in the league too.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole family. Whole family and the Yeah it's Arthur,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: that's the coach of the Falcons.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: But uh, I who last name is John? Arthur Jones?
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Arthur Jones. I don't know why you said Smith, Yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: because he was my teammate, Arthur Smith and the brothers, right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Like that's not even the same now, I don't think
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: that's the same.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Is he is he an athlete as well? He was,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: he was he won a Super Bowl in Baltimore And
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: oh I didn't know that. Yeah, he's the oldest though.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the oldest as long as a career. But
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: like that whole family is just a breeding.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Brothers in the NFL.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: That's that's ridiculous. Yeah, No, he's a stud man.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: And you're right, he's like an anomaly. Like you look
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: at him.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: He's got like the size like you like you look
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: like he must have a or torso as well, how
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: long his arms are long toist. But like he legit
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: like does like incredibly wacky, very unorthodox, extremely unorthodox Russia.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: But he just he does well.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: You mentioned earlier about the Patriot Way. What was it
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: like playing for coach McDaniels, what's it been like playing
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: for coach McDaniels transitioning from coach Pisacia last year. Obviously
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: you guys are super close. Pisatchia is a legend things,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: but then you coach McDaniels comes in. What's it been
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: like playing for coach McDaniels.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Honestly, my experience has been great.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: You know. I feel like every time you get a
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: new coach in there's new expectations, and I feel like
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: it definitely takes time to adjust, you know, as a whole.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Like if you're halfway in, halfway out, you're not going
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: to last. And in the way he coaches, like he
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: has a very specific way that he wants things to
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: be done. He's all about work ethic, all about doing
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: the extra mile. Like that's how he approaches it. And
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I like, like we talked about off camera, like me
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: and him, we've had a great relationship. Was here the dude,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: That's how I think when it comes to training and stuff,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I'm always doing extra So it's nothing new to me
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: when it comes to that.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: But like I said, if you're a guy that's you know.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: The normal NFL guy, you're not They're not training all
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: off season you know what I mean, it's just that
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: they're doing it there. It's like it's hardest. It's not
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: like a normal NFL team, Like it's just it's a different.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Time about the way the way he runs the operation.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just the operation.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Like we're really working, bro, Like even during the season,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: like we're we're in pads like late in the season,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: and yeah, there's some tough days, but like that's just
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: that's what it is, like, you know what I mean.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: You can bitch and complain about it, or you can
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: show up and fucking improve and get better. And especially
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: in our situation, like, bro, we're six and eleven, but
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: like we lost. We were in every single game basically
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: besides New Orleans, Like we lost every game by like
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: less than a touchdown. So we're right there, and that's
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: the probably the hardest part about it is like, fuck,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: we're right there. But we have great building blocks on
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: this team. You know, we have Davante, we have Josh Jacas,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: we have a ton of guys. It's just we're not
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: there yet. But I feel like we're definitely like on
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: our way, like it if things go our way, you
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. This year, like we could have
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: easily been a double dy. We could have won ten
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: games easily, but that's not the reality. Should then you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: last year we won every single close game, and that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: the toughest thing about it. It's like you can either
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: either overthink it and you know, dwell on it and
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: bitch about it. But we went six and eleven. That's
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: our record. It's fucking it's not acceptable. But I feel
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: like Josh is a as a coach. He's done a
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: really good job for sure, go.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Ahead, No, he just seems like a yeah, because this
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: is like this is not meant to be a shot.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: This is just like an observation. Like the Raiders like
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: really underperformed for base on, Like you guys have an
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: incredible amount of talent on that team. Yeah, and so
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: how do you obviously without overthinking it, what are the
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: little things here and there that you guys lose by
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: losing by seven you can now win by three?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Like what are those little changes?
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I think you know, I've talked about this already, but
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: it's like for me, it's the standard, like holding guys to.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: There has to be a standard set. They can't just
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: be you show up.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: The practice, you do the plays, we're not going over,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: We're not sitting here and you know, you should watch
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: the film and everybody should be greated.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: You know, are we really running to the ball?
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Like little shit like that I feel And that's just
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: how I have an old school mindset when it comes
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: at like just the little details of running to the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: ball loafs like the ship we talk about, Like that's
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: that's what I think is the difference, you know, at
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, like if the standard is
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: not set in the off season and OTAs and shit
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: like that is never You're never going to go on
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: the field and everybody's gonna be on the same page.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It's just not reality.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: And that's where I feel like, you know, last year
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: or the year before, like when you were there, like
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: that's we got to that point at the end of
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: the year, like everybody was playing for each other and
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: that's a new thing, like and it's not like it's
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: McDaniel's fault or anything.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Like everything's new.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: So it does take time, and that's you know something
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: as a leader, like that's what I feel like I
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: need to, you know, take another step, you know, as
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: a leader and being a captain, like that's something I'm
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: really focused on is building, you know, bringing up the
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: other guys, the guys that really want to be you know,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: really want to be great and be a difference maker,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: not just another guy on the roster to fill out
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: a spot.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Like that's that's what we need.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: You know. I feel like, like you said, we have
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: the talent in big spots, but like we do have
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of things we got to improve on. Like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: you know, our d line wasn't good enough. Our our
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: defense in general wasn't good enough as a whole, Like
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: it wasn't We did not play the what I you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: believe the standard should be. You know, we played, We
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: rushed a lot better the year before, we covered better.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: You know, there's there's little things that we got to
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: improve on. So you know, that's and it's a it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: a group effort. You know, it's got to take everybody,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: and you know, I feel like we're definitely going in
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: that direction. The second half of the season, we played
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: a lot better on defense. But that's just a tough
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: part about it. You can go back and forth, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: you know, we lost close games, but like either way,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: we lost, like and that's at the end of the day.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Six and eleven six and eleven is fucking terrible. So yeah,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: you know, I believe in them. I believe that. You know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: we're gonna keep building out the roster and a lot
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: of key spots and you know, just keep going in
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the right direction. But the main thing for me is
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: a standard. Bro Like, we have to have a standard
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: and there can't be guys that are halfway in a
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: halfway out, because you know how it is, you have
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: fucking nine guys on the same page and two or
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: halfway out, the door is never gonna work.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, do you feel like do you feel like that's
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: what it was? The standard wasn't held the entire year
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: because a lot of the talks and the headlines and
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: the conversations was, you know, last year we ended up
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: winning like the last five games, and then you go
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: in you think you're gonna build off you have a
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: new regime coming. Of course it does take time, but
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: then put in the year that you guys did put together.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: You keep alluding to the standard and everything else and
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: half in, half out. Do you feel like it was
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: upholding that standard?
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: If you when you do look at it, Yeah, I
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: feel and like you said, like we talked about it's
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: not easy. You know, the way, the way of you
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: know how coach McDaniels does it is not easy. We're
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: working hard, like, Bro, we're in training camp. It's fucking
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: one hundred degrees out on the field, Like we're not
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: practicing at seven in the morning, Like we're practicing like
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: ten like that. Shit, it's hot, bro, Like people are
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: dying and then we're running gassers at the end.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Like it's not a joke. That heat, Bro, real heat.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: And so that's my point, like as a player, like
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I pride myself on my routine about doing it every
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: day no matter if I'm in a bad mood, if
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I'm feeling like shit, like showing up and trying to
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: improve regardless of how I feel. And I feel like
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: we didn't have enough of that this year, just we
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: didn't sustain it for a whole season. Like you can
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: do it in camp, you can do it in OTAs
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: for the first couple of months, but it's like we
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: need a bunch of guys who were down or are
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: willing to sacrifice the whole year and beyond beyond point.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: And you know that's you know, that's just a part
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: of it where you know, I feel like we're going
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: to bring in more guys that are like minded, and
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: you know, I just I'm trusting it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm just not my control.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: I'm just you know, I just want to be a leader,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: you know, That's that's my mangal, lead the guys, bring
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: up younger guys and showing the way.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: So when you're saying, like, I have a standard for
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: myself that I said every day whether I feel like
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: shit or I feel good, like when you feel like
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: shit and you don't want to do it, because I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people are gonna hear that and.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Be like I do. Everyone goes through the same thing.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Everyone's got motivation week one, and now all of a sudden,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: it's week ten.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh man, I really don't want to get
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: up and go do it again.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Like what are the things that you tell yourself when
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: you're working through that process? Like you wake up in
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the morning, you're sore, it's Wednesday, you know you're going
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: into pads. You know it's week twelve, Like how do
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you make sure not only you sit that ctander for yourself,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: but as a leader, Like you're saying said that.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: For everybody else, yeah, you know, the main thing for
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: me is just it's that foundation. Like if you don't
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: have a solid foundation going into the season, like if
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: there's little cracks in it, that shit, the whole house
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: is going to come down by you know, halfway through
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: the year. And that's like my main thing. I'm a
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: very like I have an addictive personality, you know what
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've an addict at the end of the day,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: So like I use it to my as a superpower nowadays.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Like there's certain shit, like every single day I'm doing
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: the same thing like normantaic stretch every every night before
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I go to bed, like cold tub hots up every
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: single day. I'm you know, there's certain things I have
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: to do, my meal prep everything, so like even when
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I'm feeling like shit, I have to like every morning,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I know I have to do it. Like it's an
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: agreement I have with myself once a season ends, Like
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: and that's something I'm doing right now, trying to figure out, Okay,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: what can I do better?
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: How am I going to be better next year?
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: What am I Like There's certain things that I write down,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: like I'm not breaking this, like there's no there's no
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: conversation with myself in my head no matter how fucking
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: bad I feel. So I feel like it's just, you know,
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: the main thing is just being mentally you know, obviously
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: you got to be mentally strong, but you have to
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: just make agreements with yourself, like I'm not fucking breaking
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: this and we'll see what happens. If it goes great,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: if I play great whatever, like that's amazing that comes
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: with it. But like if I don't play up to
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: the level I expect, like I know I did everything
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: trying to do that, so I'm not gonna feel like
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: a piece of shit, like.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: I write, statistically the members might not be there.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: But knowing, yeah, if I put everything I have in it, bro,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: i can't feel bad about it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: So but obviously that's not the case.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like and just trusting it. So like that's what
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I always try to tell the young guys. It's like,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: like my thing this pass off season, like what can
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: I do better as far as going into training, Like
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: the weird little difference I made, like I was going
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: in at eight am and going to train. My agreement
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: with myself this pass off season was I'm going to
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: be in the building by six, no later every morning
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: six am Monday through Friday, and that's fucked.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: That's not easy in the office, especially Fridays when you
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: get to go in later.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: Fuck yeah yeah. And this is I'm talking February March
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: when there's no I don't have to be there technically,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: like this is all off season, and I did that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: So once the season got there, like that was like
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: a boom. I checked that off.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I did that. Like that's for me.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: That's where I get my confidence from. It's a little
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: shit that like nobody, nobody's telling me I got to
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: do this. It's little shit that like it's challenging as
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: fucking the off season when I could sit here and
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: sleep and get relaxed till eight am, you know what
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I mean. But I'm getting up at five point fifteen
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: and I'm going and going and working out when there's nobody.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: In that bitch.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: That's kind of what I you know, that's just one thing,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: but that's how I pride myself. Is just like set
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: in the standard boom. This is what I'm doing, regardless
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: of the situation, no matter how I feel. I'm getting
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: the fuck out of bed and I'm doing this, And
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: that's that's where where all my confidence comes from and
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: that's how I try to push the guys around me,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: because I'm not like a big hoorah guy. I'm not
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: gonna stand there this movie fucking gotta do blah blah blah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Like I'll speak when I have to, but like as
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: a leader, like I feel like at the end of
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: the day, the true leaders, like they show they show
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: that shit every single day and that comes to practice
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: the weight room. Like that's how I try to carry
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: myself and pride myself on because if you go and
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: ask any guy in the locker room, or ask Dave
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: and as Dave when you get there, you get ask
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: fucking coach McDaniels.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Like they can say whatever.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: You know, I might be a dick sometimes I might whatever,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: but yeah, red breadbeard everything, you know what I mean,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: super white. But at the end of the day, they
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: can never say I don't work harder than anybody in
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: that building.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: That's what I myself on. That's no negotiables. Is like massive,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: a massive thing that people need to have.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: It's huge. Bro It my whole life changed.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: It changes it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Two years ago when I got that surgery, bro I
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: started doing that. It's changed my whole life it definitely.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: It definitely shows and that's like me being there. You
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: are literally there doing your ship every day.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: When you talk about the standard, not that you have
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: to get out of character and get out of personality
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: with it, but do you feel like approaching this next year,
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: maybe you do speak up a little bit more to
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: kind of uphold that standard because you are a guy
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: who's earned your stripes in the league now, like everybody
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: knows the stuff, and you're talking about your routine every
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: day now, right, so people know about that and understand
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: that you know how you come correct every day. Do
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: you feel like you need to speak up a little
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: more to feel more of that leadership role to uphold
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: that standard that you were alluding to earlier.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like I look, I evaluate everything from
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: my leadership to my play, to my just my attitude,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: my presence, like everything. I really sit down and break
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: down what can I do better here? And I feel
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: like that's with anything, you know I could there's always
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: room for improvement as a leader. But I feel like,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: you know, my third year when you were there, we
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: beat the Chargers the last game, like that was my
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: first year of being a captain, and I've never been
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: a captain my whole life, like, so that was my
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: first time really being voted a captain. So it was
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: like I was learning a lot, you know what I mean,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: and that being in that leadership role. But it was
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: it was different. It was a lot easier when I
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: had a bunch of guys who thought like me, like
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Quentin Jefferson, Solomon Thomas, Yannick. Like they're all like all
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: of them are fucking yeah like that. Yeah, they're like
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: they're all kind of crazy in their own way, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: like that's how I am. So like I really didn't
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: have to push, you know what I mean. We're all
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: like they've seen how I work. There. There wasn't negotiables
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: there with me. After the work, you know what I mean,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: after practice running with me, I had a full squad. Yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Like I wasn't having a pull, motherfuckers.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I feel like. This year it was different.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: You know, it's a lot different because I whole new
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: team basically, Yeah, a lot of younger guys, a lot
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: of guys coming from other teams, practice squads, and boom
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: they're playing on Sunday with me. So that's that was
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: the challenge This year is like this dude doesn't fucking
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: even I don't know this guy at all. I just
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: met him two days ago, and now I got to
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: try to.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Lead him, you know what I mean.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Like that was the biggest challenge this year is there
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: was a lot of change, a lot of different guys
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: in and out, a ton of injuries, so like it
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: was a big challenge and I feel like overall, it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: like the hardest year mentally for me because I feel
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: like I was playing my best ball and I really
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: had a lot of shit that was going on. We
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: were struggling, We're losing a lot of close games. Like
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: there was a lot of moments where I could have
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: just fucking lost, you know, lost my marbles and act out,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: you know, just fucking lash out. But like I really
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: had to sit there and just internalize a lot of
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: shit and just be grateful for just being in this
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: situation because I could look at it and bitch about it,
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Oh I don't have you know, I don't have a
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: bunch of pro bowlers playing with me. I don't have this.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: He has this, and point to other teams, Well, this
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: guy's got that, you know what I mean, Like I
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: could do that, but it's just it does nothing, and
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: it's that's what a fucking do. And for me, it's like, Bro,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I trust what I'm doing. I know I'm working like
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: like no other, and I trust in the end it's
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: all going to work out the way it's supposed to
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: if I just continue doing the right shit.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: And like I look at guys like Aaron Donald, Like, Bro,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: he was in with the Rams.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: They sucked for years and he was the best player
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: in the league, but nobody was really talking about him
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: like how they talk about him now. But over the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: time he's stuck to the process. He continued to dominate
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: and then by years, what is a year ten? Last
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: year he's in the super Bowl. Biggest moment, everyone fucking
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: sees Aaron Donald. There's no question he's the best, and
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: he goes on the biggest play and fucking wins the
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Like that's the shit I think about, Like
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: when I get those moments, yeah, like it's touchdown, bro,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: and he wins and gets home ballgame, Like that's.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: The type of shit I think about.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Like I can lose my shit right now and be like, well,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: the fucking Michael Parson is rushing with DeMarcus Lawrence and
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: fucking you know, he's got other whatever, but that's not
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: you know, that's not what it is. My story is
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: different than everybody. So I just trust that BRO and
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I continue to just grind, Bro work NonStop, and I
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: trust it's all going to work out the way I supposed.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: So when you first get to the NFL, like, there's
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of distractions and guys like you you have
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: no money. Then all of a sudden, you have a
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: bunch of money, regardless of where you're drafted, Like it's
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: more money than you've ever had, and that is difficult
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: anywhere you go. But it's I can't imagine what it's
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: like being a rookie or a younger guy and coming
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to Las Vegas to play for the Raiders, Like, how
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: is that? How are you going to work through that process?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Because that stadium, you can see it, you can see
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: the strip and it is a cool place to be.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: It is fun.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: And if you're a young cat with note with all
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: this money, like, how do you keep guys straight during
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the season when you're not winning all the games you
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: should be winning?
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: That's that's a tough question.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: You know, everybody's different, and that's that's the biggest difference
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: When you get to the NFL. It's not like college.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: You know everybody in college, It's like, yeah, it's a
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: more structure. Everybody's on an even playing ground, nobody's richer
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: than this guy. It's like, this is what it is,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And now you get to
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: the NFL, and if this is any city, you play
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: for New York Giants. Here in New York City, it's
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: there's always gonna be that. Like I was, Bro, I
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: was in Ipsilony, Michigan, and I still found ways to
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: get fucking lit and have fun and do all that shit.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: So like being in Vegas, obviously it's amplified, but I
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: feel like just having a solid foundation, bro, having good
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: people around you, being around the right people, because there
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: can be there's there's a million people that are gonna
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: pull at you, and hey, I got this for you, Bro,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Hey coming to this club, I got you hooked up.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, two months later, like
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: you owe me twenty thousand dollars from that one day, right,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: what you know what I mean?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Fuck? Yeah?
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: So like Bro, I just for me, it's just I
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: don't even Bro, I don't even go to the club.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: I'm chilling all the time. I go to cigar lines.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: That's the only thing I do.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: So for you, I stay.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a different But yeah, for young guys, Bro,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: it's hard. Like if I was here as a rookie, Bro,
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what the fuck I was.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like you've been You've been really
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: vocal about your whole process when you first came in
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Imagine if you were in Vegas. I broud be crazy.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: And that's that's the thing, Like I say, like these rookies,
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I can't sit here and be like stay in your
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: house and do it like, because at the end of
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: the day, bro, gods are gonna go out, especially if
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: you're gouds you're gonna especially if you're singer, You're gonna
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: be out doing whatever you're gonna do.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: It's just about being being smart, bro, Be cautious.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Don't go out by yourself, don't go out with people
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: you don't know, like you really got to roll with
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: the people you trust, and stay out the bullshit because
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: there's a bunch of bullshit going on, especially at that
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Or you go out to a nightclub you don't know
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: what the fuck's gonna happen, you know what I mean.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Somebody they see you, they know you're an NFL player,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: You're immediately a target no matter what it is, like
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: they want whatever you got, so and people are willing
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: to lose whatever they have to fucking get what you have.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: People will rob you and broad daylight, they don't care.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: And that's just the thing, you know, for the young guys,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: just knowing who you're around and trust and don't just
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: be out and about like it's normal, you know what
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, You're not. I think that's the thing I
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: really like. I still have to slap myself because I'll
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: drive and pull up to a gas station by myself
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: and the fucking big chain of I won't even think
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: about it, you know what I mean. And that's that's
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: now like as I gotten older, like I truly have
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: to like slap myself in the face, like I'm not.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: I can't just roll around and do whatever like normal
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: sometimes because people are crazy. Bro. You see it all
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: the time, guys NFL players go to LA and get
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: fucking their whole shit robbed and taken and they're just
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: going out there to go hang out with family. It's
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: like it's dangerous, bro, especially nowadays, but you see more
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: and more of it all the time.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: H Can you talk about when the switch with Derek
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Carr was made, how how it impacted you and how
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: you felt like it probably impacted the team in that moment,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: if at all, because obviously there was a lot of
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: noise outside of the building.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of noise, A lot of noise. It's
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: definitely outside the building. It was tough, bro.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I remember that morning because.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: DC's been the defranchise guy since you've you've came to
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: the Raiders.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a all four years. Is my quarterback
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: is nine years as a starter, which is crazy. It
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: doesn't happen. So, yeah, I'm sitting there, You're hearing rumors like, Okay,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: is Derek going to get bench this week?
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: You know what is going on?
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Blah blah blah, and you're just kind of hearing rumors room.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: But you know how it is, you don't believe all
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: the shit. You're just like, okay, we'll see and then
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like we went in that morning
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: and me and DC are always the first two guys
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: in there, and we sit there and eat breakfast.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: It's like squad is at eight.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Like, we're in there at six o'clock and we sit
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: there and we eat breakfast together. We talk, We go
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: in the hot tub, I go take a dump, and
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: then he goes and does whatever he does, you know
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: what I mean. So I go in there and DC
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: wasn't there at the breakfast table, and so I asked Angie,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: who's there?
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: She runs the kitchen.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: She's the best. Shout out to Angie's camera. I love you, Angie.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: She's the best. She always sists with us and watches
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: it and just chops it up with us. And I
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: was like, Angie, where's DC. Have you seen him? She's like, no,
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: he hasn't been in yet, and that's in my hat.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck, you know what I mean? Something went down.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: So yeah, like an hour later, I'm in my locker.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: I just got out the hot tub and DC walks
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: in and he's looking at me, and I just knew,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: like I already, I just knew immediately, and he just whatever.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: He gave me a man hug.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: He's like, bro, I don't want to make it look
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: like I'm, you know, quitting on y'all or anything, but
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: like me and Josh talk like I'm you know, I'm
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: gonna be I'm gonna go home and for these next
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: two weeks and you know, figure out my situation. But
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: it was like that, you know, obviously they had their
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: business behind the scenes and they've had you know, had
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: an agreement, so like it wasn't like he was just
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: like fuck it, I'm not showing up. It was just like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: you know, business. So yeah, it was tough. Like DC's
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: my boy, Bro, Like me and DC have been always,
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: you know as friends. Like, Bro, he's a great dude.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I love DC and he's gonna, you know, somebody's gonna
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: have him as their starter next year and hopefully I
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: get to play against him and be dope.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: But I wish him the best.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Bro. It's just it's hard, Like in this league, there's
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: really you know, you can play for a team for
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: ten years, give everything you got, like but unless you're
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: like Michael Jordan or you're Tom Brady. Like even Tom Brady,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: it's the same thing. Like Bro, he was in year
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: twenty one six Super Bowl and there he ended with
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: a bad relationship and they got rid of you know
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: what I mean, and there was kind of friction, Like
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: it's crazy, Bro, at the end of the day. So
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: it's a business and that's the thing you got to realize.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: It's not personal. It's not like people don't like DC.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Everyone you know, everyone's cool with DC. We love them.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: But it is what it is. You know, Josh and Dave,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: they got their visual what they want and you know,
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: that's just part of this business, man, And I trust them.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm on this team and they're my coaches
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: that at the end of the day, I gotta believe
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: in what they got, you know what I mean, and
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: what they're bringing and what they're doing. But at the
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: same time, it's hard when it's your boy and there's
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: a motion to it, so it's like, damn, what the
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: fuck and then you like you want to get mad,
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: but it's like at the same time, you have to
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: understand both sides of it. And that's kind of what
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: I've learned, you know, being in the league more it's
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: like you can't you can't take shit personally because it's
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: not personal. Bro, It's a billion dollar business and it
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: is what it is.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Dude, I've been around Derek just like a handful of times.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: He's like the nicest he seems like the nicest guy. Yeah, focused,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: kind like charismatic. Good dude, So he's gone, this is
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: the off season. Hypothetically, who do you want to be
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: the quarterback of the Las Vegas Raiders?
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Who do I want? Like, if it was just your
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: world they called you say who you want? You got
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: who you want? You get to play GM, You get
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: to play GM.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Now this will be taking out of context people like, oh, maximants,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: this guy wants that guy.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, perfect world boss. Yeah, fun, hypothetical, fun, hypotheticpathetic.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: We're just saying we're having a little giggle time. Dude,
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: that is a nice little time. Tom Brady and two dogs,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: three dogs down.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: One over there, she's sucking.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's snucking behind the tom Brady. I would love
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: to have tom Brady.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: How I don't know how that can be controversy, can
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: be tom Brady as a leader, as.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: A fucking player, as the goat. Fuck.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to play with Dom Brady if
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: he can do. If you come to Vegas, Bro, I'll
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: fucking fly. I'll go to wherever he's at to introduce myself.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: The level of respect I got for him, Bro is
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: out this world. So yeah, I would love to have
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady, but we'll see. I don't I don't know
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: what's gonna happen, but I've I've only met him when
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I played him two years ago. It was the COVID
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: year and he was on the field. We played in Vegas,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: empty ass stadium. We come in for pregame, and I always,
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: like early on in my career, would always like kind
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: of walk around the field and it was like a
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: part of my routine in like my full like pregame outfit,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: like just.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: My my fit.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: And I'm walking by myself, going around and then fucking
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: Brady walks out of the locker room by himself, and
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, Like I felt it. I
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: felt the aura and uh, I seen him. We didn't
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: say anything to each other at the time. Whatever.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: I was just walking do my thing.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: He's walking, he's just kind of looking around, looking at
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: the stadium, which is in hindsight, it's kind of crazy,
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: you know, it's just plotting out. But yeah, but anyway,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: so I talked to him after the game. He's you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: obviously he's a great dude. He was super cool. But yeah, bro,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: I would love obviously, I would love that Tom Brady,
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: he's a goat.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very few people you ever meet in your life
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: had that kind of aura. Yeah, it's definitely. Everyone I've
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: met who has met Tom was like, dude, it's like
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: a glow behind him. It's different.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like too handsome.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like he's had something done.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a classic.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Amount Like there, he doesn't look like he's like you know,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: my mango botox, like it's it's you know, them teeth
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: a real no.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: But I think he's done a classic amount of work.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: High classic.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, what's going down with
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: the cheeks?
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Baby, I'm not gonna do some shit I can't say,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: but yeah, dude, he does because you look at pictures
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: of him, and I hope on this YouTube right now
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: were flashing a picture of Tom from his year.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Because my god, he had that rounded out face, no cheek.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Bones, cheek.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: That's different.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, he different now, Jesus bro, he's like forty seven.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: He's like forty seven, dude, he's not getting young on
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: the do you think he still got it? Sorry?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I hate to cut you off. I know you probably
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: bere pivoting, but do you think Tom still has it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred absolutely. I hate when
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: people you think so many forties, like mid forty matter.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: They said that when he was forty. You know, he's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: forty six. Now look how they got into the playoffs.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Bro he was snapping and having comeback games. He threw
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: for four hundred yards just two weeks ago. They had
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, Brot.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: They had bro.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: I watched football and Tom could still play. He's their
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: whole line was playing murdered this year. And that's just
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: out of respect. They were.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I think they were ranked last in the league. Like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: he was getting hit all the time.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: They had a lot of injuries, their backs were hurt,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: like they had a lot of ship going on. But
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: it's funny you look back. You see what he did
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: his last year in New England when you all beat him.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Everyone said the same thing. Oh he's done, He's he's done,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: and this is I look at it like and I'm
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: you know, I like to write that little story. It's like, oh,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: well his last who ras you know, two to three
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: year deal it you know in Las Vegas, it's just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: come on, let's be real.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: So we'll see. And he got studs on offense too.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: He's get a line.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Our old line was played a lot better than people
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: expected this year.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: That's the really.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Rush chip on his shoulder.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: DeVante went for over fifteen hundred. We have Colt Miller,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: one of the best left tackles in the league. We
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: got a lot of bro we got we got a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: lot of a lot of sod guys for sure.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Do you think, uh, what do you think Josh Jacob's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: future is with the Raiders right now because he's about
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: to be a free agent.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: He's free agent. Yeah, so I know for a fact
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: that the coaches love him. Obviously. When they first came
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: they we had three first round picks from my class.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: It was Cleve, Josh, and John Abram. And before the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: year they declined all their fifth year options. So everyone's like,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: oh fuck, they're you know how they are in New England.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: They don't value the running back. Boom bom boom bom boom.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: From my perspective, I know Josh like me and Josh
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: have been boys since I got there, and Josh is
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: one of those people that like he need like I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: feel like he needs that little extra motivation, like oh
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: you don't, Okay, I remember exactly what you said. He's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: gonna make you look dumb. And that's what I feel like.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: This year was like everyone is saying, oh, it's new England.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: They don't you know, they don't value running backs to
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: saying they'll just bring him in. Josh literally was the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: best running back in the league and this year and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: he can't even argue it. Every category, yards per carry,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: broken tackles, for amount of first rounds run like he
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: did everything. And so I'm extreme proud of him, obviously
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: being being one of my boys. But I think he's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: gonna stay here, bro and no matter. I don't know
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: how that's what that's going to look like if they
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: tag or try to sign an extension, but I think
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: he's one that's one thousand percent earned an extension. Like
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: the dude has been a pro bowler. I think this
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: is third time now in four years. So, like he's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: the dude is a dog. He's an absolute dog, you know, Josh,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: he's the ship. He plays too. He's always banged up and.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: He's always about like you know, I remember when we
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: got our assle from the Chiefs. Yeah, and he was
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: so pissed about him fumbling like early in the game,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: and just like, man on the outside looking in, what
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: do you feel like it is? I'm like, I just
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: fucking guy it like we just got our ass. But
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: he's very much like in it.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: He loves football.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he loves ball.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: That's what I talk about. The guys like that, the Davante's.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: We need guys that have that mindset, no matter what
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: the talent level. The Deron Harmon's the dude who really
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: loved football. That's what you need the building and Josh
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: is one that guy.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: Uh, going back just for a second on the on
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: the DC situation, was there ever a time where you're like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: fuck Mancuz there there is a lot uh uh you
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: know that? Like I think it was a statistic that
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: was out there that the Raiders been ranked like bottom
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: tier defense since he's been a quarterback. Do you like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: ever sit there you're like, fuck, man, like you put
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: a little bit on yourself. Obviously you ultimately don't or
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: you can't, but you're just like, fuck if we could.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Have just.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Honestly, bro, I don't know how to answer that, you
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Early in his career, like their
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: defense is like bottom defense every year, Like we haven't
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: been the worst of the worst, but we haven't been great.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: But also you just look at it.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: We've had three different decoordinators in the last three years, So, like,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I think stability is a big thing as well, and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: that's something you know, having Pat Graham back next year
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: for the second year, I feel like we're only going
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: to get better.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: And you know, having Josh back, Like everybody, if it.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Immediately doesn't work, they're like, fucking fire everyone vote. That's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: that's the outside world, and that's just you know, that's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: natural because you see other coaches like Dave Ball comes in,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: boom giants playoffs already, want to playoff.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Game, be like, oh fuck, why aren't we doing that.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: Josh automatically gets compared to.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, immediately compared. But every situation is different, and so
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: you know, it is what it is. You know, as
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: from the fans perspective, it's like, what the fuck fucked him?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: We're firing them.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: That's how they think about every coach if you don't
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: succeed right away. But you know, I feel like Josh
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: is doing the right thing. It's just gonna take time,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: for sure, And I feel like we're you know, we're
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: going in the right direction.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: Are you the Were you the biggest Pro Bowl snub
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: in the league?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: I made the Pro Bowl or a Pro a Pro?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on? Were you
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: the biggest All Pro snub in the league. That's not
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: me to decide, but you're a competitive motherfucker.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: No, it's that ship.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: I saw vocalize it a little bit or enough to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: be like, hey, this is a receipt.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: I'm yeah, for sure, but it's it's like anything else. Bro,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: when I look at it, you know, you have this
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: own story in your head. Boom, this is how it's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: gonna go. I want this, I want this. I'm gonna
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: get this like this year.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: Bro.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: If I look at like, I made All Pro last year,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: I was second team All Pro, had eight sacks, but
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: I had one hundred plus pressure boom whatever. And that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: was like, you know, from the outside world, ever was like, Oh,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: it's a fucking flash in the pan. He's just doing
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: it because it was a contract. He needed to get
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: a contract. Like I heard that shit all off season,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Like okay, it was like this big storybook. Max told
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: everybody about his sobriety story, Like it was just like
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: people that's everyone had like, oh, it's just too good
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: to be true.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: That was his year.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: But like people, I feel like people in the outside
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: world didn't truly respect me like fully as like a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Miles Garrett or TJ. Watts, cause you know, they're all
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: first round picks, they're all top ten guys, they're all
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: consistently ballers. Like so for me going into this year,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: like my attitude was like fuck that, Like I'm I'm
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: that guy, Like I'm gonna be that guy I'm gonna
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: be because I'm always compared ever sus Khalil mac left.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Like everyone talks about how the Raiders been missing a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: pass rusher, missing Kalil mac We haven't recovered from Khalil
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: mac leven. And that's like something I take super serious,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: bro like and I take offense, like I take offense
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: to that shit, like but in a good way. I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: let he use his motivation and so like in my storybook,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: like I have a lot of things that I want
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: to do and going into this year, like all right,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: how am I gonna do better? How am I gonna
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: do better than second team All Pro? Okay, I want
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: to be first team All Pro.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I want to do.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things, but I'm not like a
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: big like number. I don't I don't put a number
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: on anything like I'm gonna get this amount of sacks,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: this amount of blah blah blah. For me, it's like
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna fucking improve. Well whatever that looks like, I'm
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: gonna improve as a player and take it to another
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: take a whole another step. And I've just from a
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: film perspective, from a stat perspective, I did that and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: literally every fast I have more Bro. I led the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: team in tackles as a d N. I have fucking
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: eighty nine tackles. Like I had twenty two TFLs. I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: led the league. I had twelve and a half sacks,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: was like tied six. I've pressures. I was top three
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: in the league, like every category, Like I took big strides.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: And for me, in my head, like my perfect story
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: is boom, I'm a start in the Pro Bowl again.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: I got that.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: The last thing was all pro and I'm waiting. I'm
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: like boom, I can't wait. But then all of a sudden,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: I look at the list, I'm like what and like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: I was shook, Bro, Like I was hurt, like you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: know what I mean deep down like that that shit
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: hurt my pride.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck? I got better? Bro? I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: know I got better, and I didn't make it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: And that's like, that's the thing, and if my perspective
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: in my world, like I wanted, that was the final
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: thing that I fucking wanted on this season. You know,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: we didn't make the playoffs. I knew weren't making the playoffs,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: like just from my personal goals.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: And then I didn't get that.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, motherfuckers, Like the season went great,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: but I'm not doing enough. That's just the way I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: took it. And I know I got back forgot yeah,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: But at the same time I forgot it like bro, like.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I know I got better. My goal was
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: to get better.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: I did, bro everything in my power all fucking off season,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: every I did everything right, and then that was the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: last thing that I wanted and boom, I didn't get it.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: And so for me, I could sit there and bitch
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: and go on Twitter. Fuck that is bullshit. You know.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: You see guys all the time bitching about the show.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: You see just a couple of games ago, when fucking
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: dude had a meltdown and blaming the refs, and I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: see dudes blaming all fucking old lineman hold all the time, refs,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: don't call it like I'll.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Never be that guy.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: Bro, I think that's you know, shit like that is
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: so weak to me, Like you're gonna get held, like
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: I'm I know I get held all the time. You
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: watch the Rams last drive against us, but I was
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: getting literally tackled. But I'm not gonna go and double
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: down and go look like a little fucking cry baby.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, That's not me. So at
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, like the last thing I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: wanted was to get that all pro But I know,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I'm gonna look
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: back next year when I do everything I'd set out
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: to do and be like, yeah, this shit was for
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: a reason. God needed that little That little thing is
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: gonna fucking push me to do that extra little wrap,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: the extra little ship.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: And it is what it is, like that ship pisses me,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: like it really hurt me.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: But hey, don't you like that?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: You know that's kind of not for me to like, hey,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: come on now, he's like, man, I fucking bro, that
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: ship yeah, like that ship, dude, No, like I did,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 7: I get it.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: It is what it is, and I can't do anything
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: like in my young self, like I thought the same thing,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: like my rookie when I was going my rookie year,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: like I thought I was gonna win Rookie of the Year.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: I thought I should have won it. I didn't, and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: but that helped me the next year. Like it's always
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: something that every player needs, that little extra motivation and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: like I can't control that. But at the end of
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: the day, bro, I know, like it's all gonna pay off,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: Like it's all gonna I don't need to force it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: and talk on Twitter and do all this extra ship
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: and complain.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: And what is that gonna do for me?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: Bro? It's gonna make me look like an ass if
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: I go next year and don't play as well, you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like I'm to do everything I
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: can to be better than I was this year, and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: that's that's what's gonna push me. So yeah, it does
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking at it now like I was snubbed,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: that pissed you off, I think I gotta work hard
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: and do what were things little minor critiques you make
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: to your off season training regiment that might get you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: that all pro.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: I honestly, I think that that's something I'm looking at
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: right now before I start training again. Before I start
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: training again. I do it every year, especially these last
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: two years.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Is you train here? Yeah? I train in Vegas?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Do you train the facility? So yeah, that's something I'm
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: evaluating right now.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: He's like, he hears my mouth in the microphone.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Dude, we'll bro anytime someone goes and starts talking. He
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: opens his mouth like that.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: Well, the ship's going on up up up up top.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: He's juicing me. You live together.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: I like com you know what I mean. I'm just like,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: it's just me taking in. I guess I can't fucking.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Hell you say you say.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: Got me wrong?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: I'm up? You got was like a hyper deal right there.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Somebody needs to cut that and.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Put a bunch of music behind it, Spartan music. Yeah,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: it's like drake, Dude, did somebody tell me I fell off?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: I needed that? Yeah? I needed it.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: But that's yeah for me, Like my routine, that's something
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna breakdown. Like I've already talked to the strength
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: staff the nutrition is we've already sat down and boom,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: we're gonna this is what We're gonna do a little
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: adjustments where I.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Can, you know, improve on.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: But it's it's not the work ethic part of it, bro,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: I put in I know I worked fucking extremely hard.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: It's just about how can I make it a little
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: bit better? What can I do a little bit smarter?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: A little shit like that, And so that like this
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: second year, like going into my third year, there was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of big adjustments I had to make and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: I felt like I took another big step, like I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: added boxing into my off days instead of just doing
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: strictly tubs and chilling at an hour boxing and in
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: that so there's something you know, there's always gonna be
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: little shit like I'm sorry, I'm gonna add yoga this offseason,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: like just adding little shit, but I you know, I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: don't know everything yet, but just try to take that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: take that next big step because I know in this league, bro,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: like if the biggest thing is the guys that continue
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: to do it, and you know this fucking well being
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: a pro Bowl doing it over and over, like do
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: you either get worse or you get better? And like
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: there's no in between. You don't just stay the same
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: you don't. Like for me, it's I can't, Like I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: can't even I don't even know what life will look
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: like just in my brain if I didn't do all
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: the things I was doing now, Like if I could
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: just chill this offseason, like a lot of guys do it,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: They're fucking chilling and and just take a step back,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Like I can't even sit, Like I have to take
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: this time off to just let my body rest. But
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: I'm still meal prepping, stretching, norma, taking every day like
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: I have to do it for my own sanity. So
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: like that's that's what it is for me, bro, just
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: taking that next step. I'm fucking like obsessed with the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: process because I know where I want to go and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: I can't do it any other way. So I'm just
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: fine tuning everything. Well, you know, we'll see what we'll
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: be got on the agenda this offseason.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: The addiction becoming a superpower. Oh yeah, this is an
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: outstanding first impression for me with you.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: I'm very impressed.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: I'm glad you guys are finally You'm glad you guys
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: are finally meeting too. I'm like Damn, I thought, I
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: guess you guys haven't met it.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy because when I literally when I saw you,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: we were waiting for us outside, which is very kind
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: of you, by the way, to wait for us when
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: we were pulling up, like, oh, there's the boy. Like
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: I feel, I literally feel like we've met before hung out.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: So this has been and it's cool to see your
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: mindset because you've got it, Bud.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it about it everything but being white, like
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: everything's going for you, it means a lot.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: Bro Taylor knows when I when I got to Oakland
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: and my boy checked in on me after my first
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: day in school with the Raiders, and I was like, hey,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: somebody on the squad is like a fan of busting
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: with the boys. I was like, his max across me.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: You weren't who you are now, but it was like,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know, And now looking back, that's fucking cool.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. That's crazy.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: When you hey, you're like he's like telling somebody, goes, no,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: this man is famous. I'm just kind of sitting there
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: like nervous, you know, first day, in the first day,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's somebody he's like, he's like now I'll
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: rock with busting with the boys. I'm like, Yo, let's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: fucking go.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: That's a hilarious contrast to you going up the will
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: being like half fuck with you guys, and then Richie
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Incognita being like, oh I do busting with the bully,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: just bullying fucking bully me, Billiam, How what was I
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: like playing with that Richie?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Shit? I love Richie. He is one of my favorite
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: teammates I've ever had. The dude is he like it's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: you talk about work ethic, That motherfucker works, bro, And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: like takes the way he took care of his body,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: how massive he is and playing fifteen years white body
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: bro fucking soundtrack.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: And he looks like he's sixteen years old in the face,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: no stretch, Like he just the dude is different and
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: he's been through a lot of ship and like just
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: being around on him and getting to, you know, become
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: closer with him, Like he was truly one of the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: best team teammates I had, like take me under the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: wing like type of dude, Like.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: He was exactly that guy.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: Like for some reason when I first got there, like
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: we practiced, you know, we start practicing doing ota together
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: and like we started to like become boys because I'm
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: fucked up in the head like he is. Like I'm
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: practicing hard as fuck. Like we're not even in pads,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: and you know, I'm a rookie. I'm just trying to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: make an impression and like I'm flying around the field.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: And for some reason, like Richie obviously is he pay
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: He's paying attention a little bit seeing how I do shit,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: and like he just we immediately clicked because he respected it,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: just how I did shit. And ever since then, Bro,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: we became boys. And I still like when he retired,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: I went up and seen him, like on his retirement
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: and like me and him always, you know, been really cool.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: And he goes to all the freaking games. I'll be
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: on the sideline about to walk, the game's about to start.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: He'll be in there in a polo, just fucking grab me,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: give me a biggest hug in the planet, fucking throw
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: my rib out because he squeezes the life out of me.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: But he's yeah, I fucking I can go on and
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: on about Richie bros. He's a loyal die hard, just
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: like real real bro.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: A healthy healthy is one of the best friends to
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: have no, literally, he is an incredible human being.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Absolutely what a.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: Massive fucking dog.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: He's a big boy.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: No, he stood up and everybody can see him to
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: everybody's like, holy shit. He literally he like, take my
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: life any second you wanted. Max. I like, I came
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: in the house before I came in the house, and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: Max is like, hey, just walk straight, don't really don't
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: look down at don't make any facial expressions. And I'm
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: just kind of like walking the house and Max just starts.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: He's like, you know, he's not gonna do nothing, but
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: he watched the wires.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Watch the wires, Dirk Direk, go buddy, He's just gonna
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: he'll be fine. He'll stay on there for like five minutes.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: He was assessing the situation before.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: He came over. He doesn't want to fun it up.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Tear talk, Yeah, do we have well, let's take a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: quick pause talk.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah all right.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: So for Tier Talk this week, we are going to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: do best dog breads, and I feel like best and favorite.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: There's a great line there, because I'm sure you could
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: look up the best dogs and it's probably like an
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: equal out with us.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: We'll say our favorite dog Brits for our tier talk. Yeah,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: do you want to go first?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: Let me go first. I can go first. My U
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: no honorable mentions. My Tier three is going to be Rottweiler.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: We had a dog growing up, my parents' first dog
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: before they had me. You know how parents do the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: trial run, Like, let's do a dog. We can take
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: care of a dog, we can take care of a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: baby type thing. They had a Rottweiler named Conan after
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: Conne and the Barbarian. They had him trained all the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: way up to like he could have been like some
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: kind of like the police style training dog, but he
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: would have had to leave for like three months. But
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: a very well trained Rotweiler and so ever since, Like
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: growing up with Conan, it was like I loved Rottweiler's
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: my tier two. What I currently have waffle English bulldogs.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: They're just so like unique to me, dude, and like
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: you come home, they don't greet you, they stay on
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: the couch. You go in, like you have to go
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: give them love. They kind of just look sad and like,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: but they love you. The all they want to do
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: is cuddle. Yeah, they got a couple issues, yeah, but
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: all in all, like I love English bulldogs. My buddies
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: would have would have them when I was growing up,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: and I would go to their house and I love
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: playing with them. And then Rob Rob Deer Deck on
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: the Fantasy Factor and everything when they had that dog
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: and it was skateboard and everything else. I just always
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: thought it was the fucking coolest. Uh my Tier one
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: pit bulls, I know it's I know you love pits
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: as well. I think pit bulls are fucking awesome. Yeah,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: I used to have. I used to have a pit
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: named Boogie. I named I made my dog Boogie after
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: Levonte David. Levonte David's nickname in college was Boogie little
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: Horny Boy. And so I told I told Boogie, I said,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: when I get my first dog, it's gonna be a pit,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: and I'm gonna name them after you. So that's my
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: story about having my pit. Then, you know my girlfriend
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: I broke up out of you know, guilt. You kind
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: of like you can have Yeah, we can, Yeah, we
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: can cut that part out. But piles dud, I think,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: uh no, no. If you guys hear a baby, that's
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: Max's newborn.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: She's a stud.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: She's trying to get some time in.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: On the pod.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: You gotta respect respect that, but but that's my tear talk. Now,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: what the rule is you go around the room and
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: everybody gives a one word answer on how they feel
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: like your tear talk wing kind of like a judgment thing.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll let's tell you start this diseased Jesus not
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: a fan of pits? Magnificent?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: What would your word be? I'll go ahead and echo it,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: swol Mitch almost you want to go, you want me
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: to go next, I'll.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: Go all right. Tier three.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna start off little curveball. You know, the only
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: dogs I've ever had are pits. My parents they own little,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: yappy little fuckers. I love them, but I never claimed them.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna start Tier three with Doberman's, and the reason
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: why is because they're excellent athletes. They're fucking terrifying, and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: there's something about them. Every time I see a Doberman,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: you get a little like you don't know what's gonna
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: kill me? Is he gonna kill me?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Or is he like?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: I want this dude by my side. So every time
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: I see a Doberman, I just have a level of
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: respect for the dog that I felt like it needed
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: to make the list because you know they're not loved
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: one enough, I feel like, and they're feared in a way,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: but I respect them. Tier two, I'm gonna have to
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: go with rod Wilers. My teammates in college, a ton
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: of them had Rod Wiler's Cleeve Ferrell. He's got a
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Roth Wiler, a great dog, super loyal, big ass teddy bears.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: But if they need to get the job done, they'll
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: get the job done. So I respect the shit out
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: of them as well. But Number one unanimous decision pit bulls.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: I got three best dogs on the planet. They're loving,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: they're loyal as fuck, but they will take you down
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: if you cross the line. And that's the thing with them.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: My big guy, he's an actually he's two pit bulls
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: in one.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: But is he knows like an XL.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: He's an XL bully, So he's a.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: Pit and an American bulldog kit mixes. Yeah.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: So yeah.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: The thing with pitts bro like they're super loyal, but
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: they're big babies at the end of the day, Like
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: if they love you, they're gonna just lay out like
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: they act like they're a human in the house. And uh,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: every time I come home, there's the response is always
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: the same. So I respect their consistency. I expect that
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: they got the grit and they they're dangerous enough where people,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: you know, have a little bit of fear when they
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: try to cross the line, but they'll always be there
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: for you. So big shout out to pipples all around
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: the world. Gritty Yes, I love that. JPO. Yeah dominant
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: from JP Mitch tough Alpha. Just speaking of dude, I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: wish the camera can catch that.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: Look at that man.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: You sure rob this place and come here, dirt, dirt,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: dirt here, all right.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: Here he comes. That was the most Dan Campbell for
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: answers I've ever heard of my life. Yeah, grit, tough,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: chevy t.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Should you said, Dan Campbell, we could have said, all right,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: my tier talk.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: He just walks loud.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: He's heavy.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all three of my tiers are pitbulls. Okay, let's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: see my tier three. I grew up on a ranch
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: in Arizona. Every cowboy had this dog, and it was
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: the Blue Healer.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: Those dogs would work cows, they'd work with horses, they'd
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: work with sheep. They do the job that need to
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: get done.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: The reason why they're not higher on my list is
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: because they are rambunctious, energetic, and if they're not trained properly,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: they will absolutely ankle by any visitor at all times.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: I love the way they look, I love the way
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: they get after it, and they're hard working, just like
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: the Chevy Silverado, and that's why they must be in
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: my list.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: I love that. That is my tier three. Taylor.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: I want to cut you off, but those blue heelers
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: look very similar to like German shepherds, but they're kind
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: of smaller right.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: Completely getting the business like.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: They're shorter haired.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: It's hard to explain, like any movie you've seen with
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: a cowboy. Yeah, extremely smart and we'll go all day
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: like they will go and work all day for you.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: But if you want to own one, you got to
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: like you gotta have some wide open spaces from the run.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: My tier two. This dog would have never made my
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: list until I met my wife. She has this dog.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: I think I didn't know what to think about. I
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: thought they were beautiful and majestic. I thought seeing her
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: like up in the mountains with the snow, I'm like, Wow,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: what a beautiful dog. But I don't think I'll ever
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: own this one.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: This dog is going to be the husky Siberian husky.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: They shed like shit.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: But my wife's dog, Akira does getting pets from hers
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: like pickles on a sandwich. She'll take them or leave them,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter to her. She hangs out, she
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: does her things. She's the most low maintenance dog in
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: the world. And it's completely changed my views on huskies.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: I think they're an incredible species of animal, extremely smart
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: and very vocal.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: And my tier one goes out to.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: The greatest dog you could possibly get. When you go
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: down to a humane society and you look around those
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: little crates and gates and you see dogs staring at you,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: it's not just one type of dog, it's a whole
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of types of dogs. And when you take a
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: cocktail combination of animals and you put them together, most
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: of the time you're gonna get the best combo possible.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: So my tier one is the mutt, the mix of all.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: Those animals you put them together.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: They look funny most of the time, they are funny
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: most of the time, and they usually have the best personalities.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: So the mutt, those pound puppies are my tier one.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: Sure unique.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: Politically political, yeah, own the number one.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: The gods here, why not him in there. I had
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: him in there, but he's right.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: That's why I got a little up in arms as
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: I thought, damn, I'm gonna get.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm ready to take this right now.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not ready to take these hands on the internet.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: But I do love the Chihuahua. I think the chiuala
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: is fucking hilarious.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: When I was a little kid and I would see
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: the Taiaro top of bell dogs ripping around the little
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: short haired brown colors, I would say to myself, someday,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have this dog and I would have little
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: matching outfits, gonna be cool little glasses, little chill boys
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: hanging out. Now, I have a stipulation for these dogs
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to get some day. I will own
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: a chiuaba someday. I have to make sure that I got.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: This has got to be.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Anomaly of uava. It can't bark and it can't bite.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Other than that, dude, they're chill boys and they're outstanding.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe you should boy's gonna have a muscle.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna stereotype, but every Chua I've met is
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: the meanest fucking dog I've ever met.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Number two and dog attacks.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: Chua is the breaking number two amongst all dogs and attacks.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's you want to do your one word?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: No, no, If you were gonna have chiuaa, I was
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: gonna have a high maintenance.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: This sus I know who I am. Anyways, Yeah, well,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: boys and girls, that is when I went to in
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: the episode.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to what we got for Maxie. I
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: don't think so were you guys listened throughout the episode
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: and was intrigued to get a question out or go
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: any further into anything. He was saying, Mitch loves ball,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: So I'm kind of looking at me and I feel
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: like he's like, was getting a boner over there listening
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: you talk about fucking work, ethic and ship. Our ESPN
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: reporter Mitch wants to know what Davante Adams brings to
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: a team.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: Davante Adams the thing with him, like I've been you
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: know you were you were there with the whole ab saga.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: Well you you came after it was that same year.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: It was that same year.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: So that was the first superstar receiver I ever dealt with.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, this is you know you hear
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: their divas there, So I got to experience that whole thing.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: So my first, like initial thought was like, Okay, I've
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: heard nothing but good things about Davante, like just from
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: the outside world, Like you don't hear him talking like
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: I'm the best blah blah blah, like on the outside
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: he's not. He's never been that guy. So when he
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: was coming, I was kind of I didn't know what
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: to expect. I didn't know if he was you know
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: what he was like whatever, get another a yeah, like
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: it maybe another fucking diva, Like that's not the guy
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: you want in the locker room, regardless. And the day
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: he came in there, bro, Like when I talk about
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: everything I talked about like a teammate, you want to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: dude who fucking practices the right way, fucking trains the
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: right way every single day. He's that guy, bro. And
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: he's one of the most humble dudes but extremely confident
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: at the same time. He's not arrogant, he's not that,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: but he knows who he is, you know what I mean.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: And that's the level of confidence that a lot of
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: guys can't get to. Because when you talk about Devontae
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: Adams Emilia, oh, he's best saleper in the league, Like
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: he's always in that conversation. So he's just a great teammate, BRO,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: and he's awesome, like just being around him. I fucking
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: love Davante like he I don't know, I don't know
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: how to explain it. Bro, He's unique. He's super fucking smart.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: Like he's just a different type of dude. And you
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: could tell, like there's a reason why he's different, you
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, just the way he plays. Bro,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: he has no fear, he knows he's the guy, and
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: like he loves football. And that's that's really all you
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: can say about him.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: Bro.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: He's I can go on and on, but he's a
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: he's a great teammate.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: BRO. Love him to death.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: And I've only known him for a year. Bro, I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: fucking I talked to him all the time.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: Like it's not like you know in most locker rooms,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: like sometimes you just talk to your D line guys
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Like Devanta is one of those guys.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: Like he's one of my one of the best teammates
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: on the team. I talked to him all the time.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: He's a captain. He's just h Yeah, he's a total package. Yeah,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: he's a stuff. Bro.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: I love that dude, he's a stud. Good question, good work.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're always looking to improve, yeah, improve, yeah yeah.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: If you can hear that in the background right now,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: Dirk is chugging.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, he's getting after it. Dude. On that, I totally
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: forgot what the like has a rookie? What was that
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: experience like for you?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: Was it as bad as it was wild?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Like I don't know how to explain it.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: So when I when I first came in Boom, I
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: got jibted by the Raiders. We signed like we had
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: signed ab Ritchie Vontes, berfect, like we like every big
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: like you think about the craziest motherfucker. They were all
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: on our team. So I didn't know what to expect.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: The AB shit like Ab is a person. Like if
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: you if AB sat here with us right now and
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: you genuinely like it's just us in the room, no cameras, nothing, you.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: Would love a B. He would love a B. He'd
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: be like, he's down the earth. He's a great dude.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: But the second he left the building, bro, you didn't
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: know what the fuck was about to happen. It was
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: every day bro, he would go, what's up?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Hey man?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: What up man bo Eastern Michigan blah blah blah. I played,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: you know, you played at Central, Like that was like
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: my end with him. That's a rookie. I'm like, oh,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: it be cool with that motherfucker.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: And so we're cool.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: But like you would go home and all of a
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: sudden there's something on Instagram and then like as a
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: shit started getting crazy because he came in, he burned
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: his feet off, and then he had the helmet shit.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: So he was never practicing. He never was around the
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: off season. We're like, what the fuck is going on?
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: He would show up here and there, but.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: Like and when you be with like a camera crew
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: and ship, like, oh, he would bring a posse with
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: him everywhere in the facility. It was not a it
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: was kind of like a high schoolish like you had
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: some aisles, but not a lot of room in the in.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: The locker room, bro, Like he had his own posse.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: So it was like in the weight room he had
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: his own trainers come. So it was just a lot.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: But you would never like if you just sat there
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: like he can he really is, like he's not I
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: don't I don't know. He's got he's got his own
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: ship he's got to deal with, you know what I mean,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of ship that's going on. But like
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: my experience one on one with him outside of the media,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: outside of that ship, like he was cool as fuck,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: but I don't know, he's got a lot of shit
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: going on. But like Vontes, like Vante, you would think
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: about Vonte's birth, You're like, oh my god, that's a
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: fucking murderer. Right, he is the fucking coolest dude, bro, Like,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: coolest ship. He came right up to me. Was like
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: at first, I was terrify. I'm like, okay, this vontet perfect.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: That's a bad motherfucker. Like yeah, I'm you know, I'm
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: gonna try to earn that respect. Like I didn't even
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: know how to talk to him.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: At first.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: He was cool as shit, great leader, like great dude
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: in the locker room, like everyone fucked with him, and
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: he was a real leader.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: He was dope.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: And then Richie's the same thing, Like obviously Richie's had
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: his shit too, Like he's gone through a lot of shit,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: but Richie's a fucking great teammate. So yeah, my whole
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: experience with everybody, like he would think from the outside,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: it was like oh my god. But like inside the building,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: like Ab was gone before the season, like we were
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: just waiting, like we're like, okay, is Abe even gonna play?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: Like there was something after There's just always something, And
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: then he leaked like Gruden's call on the fucking Instagram.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: Literally after he came up and talked to the whole team.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: He came up, Bro, all the captains went up there.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: Ab walked up on the stage. He apologized. We're like
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: all right, bet so we're like okay, he's about to play,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: Like fuck yeah, AB's on board now, so everyone's excited.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: That night he posted the shit with Gruden and how
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: you know is fucking wild.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: The same day, me and Clear take like what you.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: Literally just talking about this ship. He's like I'm doing
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: with the games man.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: I apologize and was like, oh fuck it, bro, Like
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: we get it, Like everybody goes through shiit, so like
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: I'm that's from my personal bro.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: So like I it's a b bro, Like fuck it,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: he's going through his ship, but like he wants to
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: play everything seen one hundred percent genuine boom boom boom,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: literally that night he puts on Instagram like the whole
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: Grooden ship every and just like I'm like what. And
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: then by the next morning he was cut being clear
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: in the building. Mayo's walking up through the hallway with
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: a smile because may I had to deal with all
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: the ship and may I really wanted him to be
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: a part of it. Gruden, They fucking they wanted to
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: love him, but like there was more to it, you
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, he was going I don't know
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: what he was going through, but like, and I pray
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: for dudes like that. I don't know what he's going,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: what's got, what he's got going on upstairs, Like it's tough.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, like people were like it was like brought
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: the fresh air, bro. It was something every single day,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: and he was supposed to be our franchise guy, like
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: we're bringing a b to fucking Lass Babs.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: Like the best, bro, the best. He was so fu cold.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like he's my team, bro, He's the coldest.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: And they said, like when he's out on the Price
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: Beld like that motherfucker is running all day long, running
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to do extra after Like it's just it
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: seems just seems like a bizarre.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like. Was there ever a weird
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: dynamic between Vonte'.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: And a B not at all?
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: Really boys.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: Because he executed go To it's like a hit. That's
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: what people say, Yeah, like, oh he got CT from that.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: You know everyone, That's what they're saying, like, yeah, yeah, everybody.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: They must sucking up, bro when they came in the
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: fucking locker room. But everybody was. Everybody was cool as
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: ship like. Vontez and him were boy like. It was no,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: there was no friction at all. Richie and Ab were
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: boys like it was when we were all just together
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: as boy like as teammates.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: There was no issues.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: But it's just there was a bunch of ship going
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: on and the outside and it's just you look back,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: you're like, damn, what if. But you never know.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: But like we've had a B, we're kind of had
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: a B and now we have Devanta, Like we've had
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: some guys come in. It's just some cats, crazy.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: Some dudes.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: Dude. We appreciate you, man, this has been fucking phenomenal.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: It has been a phenomenal episode.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, I've had a blast. I'm glad you guys got
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: to come to the crib, meet the dogs, the whole shabam.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: It was amazing.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: Some wing stops, some pizza, yeah, wings stop, water, the boys,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: you know, intimidating pulling.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: Up and seeing what you got sitting outside you like that. Yeah,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: it was nice, it was all It seemed like it
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: was perfectly for that.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: He's like, all the boys are coming. Hold on, that's
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: perfect an episode of MTV crib bro. It really was. Yeah,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: you've earned it and you're wearing the chain.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: Look at the wrists, both.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Of them something something.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: How many are you going to you to do a
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: full bodysuit tattoo? What are we talking about here?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: I want to get my chest, my upper back, and
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: my like, I want to get my whole like Torso done.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: This off season. Oh yeah, my guy is moving to Vegas.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: He's from Boston, so like I usually only get to
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: see him like once an off season and we just
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: knocked ship out. But he's moving here in March, so
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: we might get some uh some action.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, get it right.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to get like you you got all
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: types of ship. We're covered up a little bit.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: I guess I got work to do still, yeah, just
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: work out there. Yeah, my legs, my legs. I haven't
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: even got back to him.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: You have to see his chest. He's got a cool
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: little dog there.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting to get I'm starting to have most
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: of my torso done. I needed there's a couple of
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: pieces right here by my whole back done. I need
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: to get like a couple of places. It's not important,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna get it.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. It's gonna be a big.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much.
• 1:38:52
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• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: If you're looking for the Budweiser, can't get it any more.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: It's overboughts.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: So that's like, yeah, that's the only thing. As you're saying,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: you're like, yeah, by the time this comes out, it's
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: gonna be overwheling.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: No, this last time I did a couple of days ago,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, but big hugs, tiny kisses,