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F1 2025 Austrian GP Recap & British GP Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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Let's go! Welcome back to Banter with the Boys.
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Fast laps where we got the Austrian recap and
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the Silverstone preview. I don't know why I don't
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call it the British GP preview. I mean, Silverstone
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is just fun to say. Right. Anyway, that's the
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voice of Joe you hear. Joe's here. Oh, sorry.
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I spoke out of turn and I apologize. It will
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not happen again. Yeah. Remember how we started
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the last show where I said I had the floor. You
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got to start figuring this out. You're right.
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He's just staring for you. Spotify listeners.
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He's just staring straight ahead. You're right.
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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's what we like. Can
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you, can you take, can we take it? Can you introduce
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me again? Uh, Mike. Hello. I can speak now. Hey,
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this is my favorite hat that you're wearing right
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now. I like that hat a lot. Thank you. Thank
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you. It says McLaren, but I like the symbol.
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I like this. I just like this. The one that says
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McLaren. Is that. Orange, too? It's literally
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the exact same. It's like a slightly lighter
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tinge of orange, but still pretty much the same.
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You felt it appropriate to wear it today? Yeah,
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I finally got my Williams hat, and I just felt
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like it was a bad week to wear it. I actually
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texted him after watching the race. I was like,
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probably a bad week to wear that new hat. Absolutely
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not. Absolutely not. This is the week. If you're
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going headfirst into Williams fandom, you should
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have worn it. You stick with it no matter what,
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like somebody else at this table. who just will
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not buy another hat and is just rolling with
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last place. I respect it. I respect it, too.
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I'm trying to get a hat for every team, so whoever
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wins, I can wear that hat. You know what? That
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sounds like a really great plan. That means you
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have to own a Haas hat eventually. I want a Haas
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hat, for sure. I like Haas. That means you have
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to own an Aston Martin hat. Yeah, there we go.
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See? Anyway, anyway, Kev behind the cameras and
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the mics kind of not. Nope, never mind. I don't
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know what I'm saying, but Kev's making it all
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happen, like always. Getting after it. That's
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our boy. Yeah, yeah, I already know. With that,
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yeah, yeah, let's head right into our, what are
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we doing here? Austrian GP recap. Recap. Let's
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do it. Right back to me. Yeah, what are we doing
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here, Joe? You usually have good notes for the
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pre -race banter stuff. Yeah, we got pre -race
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stuff up. What do you got? So this could probably
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even be news, but there wasn't a ton that was
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covered on it. George's contract is kind of up
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for... Oh, yeah, I did add that to news, actually.
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Oh, you did add it to news. So we'll kind of
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wait for that. But I'll just say this weekend
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was when things kind of came to a head a little
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bit for both George and for the team. So we'll
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talk about it when we get to news. Yeah, yeah,
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add what you have, because maybe I didn't hear
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what you heard. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, no problem.
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Another little slight bit of news. I'm so sorry.
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I have news in the start here, and I didn't put
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it in the pre. Austria was extended through 2041.
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We're not getting rid of this track forever.
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Yes. That's fine. I actually love this track.
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I'm super cool. Okay. In practice, the most notable
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thing, this might be unfair, I might be biased,
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but Alex Dunn drives the McLaren and gets the
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fourth fastest in the session. Now, obviously,
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the McLaren, after we saw the race, a league
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of its own, truly like... a rocket ship compared
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to literally every other every other car but
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a rookie getting fourth pretty crazy i feel also
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very important to note he was only three tenths
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off of oscar yes yes which that's the important
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part it's the benchmark to his teammate yeah
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and the fact that he was only three tenths off
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to oscar and that's a good look Also, Irish driver,
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which is exciting. That is exciting. So that
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was the biggest note I have from practice. Race,
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quali. We heard an interesting fact from the
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commentators. On average, Yuki has been 0 .6,
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so six tenths slower than Max in quali on average.
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And then he proceeded to go out in Q1. We saw
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some fire on the grass in Q2 bring out a red
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flag. We saw Norris noted for impeding Leclerc.
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There was no further investigation there. And
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then Russell noted for unsafe release. no investigation
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there either and that was uh pre -race start
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of race carlos signs bad just bad just bad bad
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luck so you had here on the sheet dnf for carlos
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signs no no no dns yeah he didn't really start
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yeah i made sure to correct that one there because
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that car is I mean, I feel like in recent form,
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it's been looking pretty good. But this weekend,
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they just something was like missing. Something
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was wrong. Maybe maybe, you know, they just.
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Maybe their parts aren't meant to last because
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they both broke at the same time pretty much.
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Well, yeah. And then they were saying, so Albon's
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car could be a similar issue to Canada, which
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ended up being a power unit thing. So not good
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there. And then Sainz was a whole different issue
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with all I could find was a possible stuck brake
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rotor that he drove around with it stuck and
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then obviously caught fire. Well, he couldn't
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even get off the line, though. Yeah, he said
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he couldn't get it out of gear. At first, I thought
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he was mimicking the F1 movie. that's in my notes
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i said carlos doing his best sunny yeah yeah
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uh couldn't get off the line and when he finally
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did he went into the the pits went straight to
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the end of the pit lane thinking that that's
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where he was going to start and his car was basically
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on fire his brakes were in flames completely
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and smoke was billowing out of his engine cover
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as well so it wasn't just his brakes i don't
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think i think there's something wrong with the
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engine and just taking around that one measly
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formation lap just did it in completely so pretty
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albon's third is this his third dnf in a row
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in a row in a row wait hold on i've got i've
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got the races up in front of me so i think it
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might be dnf to canada Come on, keep up with
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me here. He DNF'd in Canada. He DNF'd in Spain
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as well. He DNF'd in Spain. This is his third
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DNF in a row. It's a tough stretch for Williams
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and Albon alike. He's not the first driver to
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do that this year. Didn't Alonso have like three
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DNFs in a row? I think, yeah, at the beginning.
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Maybe not in a row, but Alonzo has had a couple
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DNFs already. He's had multiple DNFs. And then
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this is a race where everybody below Williams
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gained ground on them in some way, shape, or
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form. I don't know if it was racing bolts that
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only got one point. Somebody only gained one.
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I can't remember who. Maybe it was Haas. It was
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probably Haas. Yeah, that would make sense. But
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except Alpine, of course. Right. They got their
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own. We'll get to that. Oh, right, yeah. Alpine
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didn't make any ground. Correct. Yeah, yeah.
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No, they didn't make any ground. So, I mean,
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is that all we got to say about Williams at the
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moment? I mean, bad and bad. I mean, it was like
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they started the race off pretty strong, you
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know? Yeah, kind of a bummer. Yeah. I mean, the
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definition of a bummer. Yeah. Okay, so you're
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going to wear the Williams hat next week. If
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they do, okay, I'll wear it. Hey, it might be
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a little chillier at Silverstone, so the fires
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might just... It could be. Or there could be
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rain, actually, too. Yeah, what's the weather
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looking like? Wet, I thought. I heard it was
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supposed to be dry. Really? When I last looked,
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it was wet, but that was also two days ago when
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I looked. Might have been yesterday. Let's find
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out what the interweb has to say. So, Sunday
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is showing rain. 20%. 20 % rain. So all day,
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20%. So maybe spot all day, 20 % all day, 20%.
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So that could be like some spottiness and it's
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on and off. We could see some, we could, is Kevin
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Magnuson ready to hop in? That'd be fun. But
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no, um, crazy. Yeah. George Russell win. So anyway,
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uh, what is that? Yeah, I know. Anyway, um, Alpine,
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Alpine, uh, Gasly finishing P 13, Colapento P
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15. Just butt. Just not good. John's the best.
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Gasly was starting okay, and then actually I
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don't want to get into our— Gasly placed really
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well in qualifying, didn't he? Ten. Yeah, ten.
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I mean, for a boat, that's pretty good. Oh, okay.
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But no, Gasly, usually you don't see him in the
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comms too much. But he was in the comms a little
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bit. He was a little frustrated, quote, again,
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not to get into our comms segment. Uh, these
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weren't really funny to me or anything, but it
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was just like, probably because I'm an LPs man,
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but he's like, uh, I have no grip. Um, expletive
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crazy. I'm about to spin every corner and then
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comes back in like literally a lap later says
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quote, check if something is broken. It's crazy.
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Again, it must be real crazy. I don't know how
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much more, I don't know how much more longer.
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Okay. That is what he said. I can stay on the
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track. And, you know, to which they reply, yeah,
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understood, mate. We're working on it. Okay,
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question mark. Stick with it, please. You know,
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just kind of telling him to hang in there. And
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he did hang in there the best he could, but I
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don't know. At least they don't put it up very
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often if he's complaining, so I don't hear him
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complain too much. So when he's complaining,
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it's not good. It's bad. Yeah. And it didn't
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necessarily get better after he boxed. He boxed
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not long after that one, but, yeah. That's just
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ghastly. That was just ghastly. Want to talk
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about Colapinto for a sec? Go for it. No, I want
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you to. No, no thanks. No thanks. Although there's
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rumors. There's rumors. That's more and less
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in the news. I mean, they didn't say he was getting
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swapped for Great Britain. No, I don't think
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he'll get swapped for this race. But after break,
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I don't know. Because Flavio. It's kind of wishy
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-washy on, well, everything he says is wishy
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-washy a little bit, I guess. But, you know,
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the reserve driver, Paul Aaron, Aaron, I think
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it's Aaron, is getting loaned to Sauber for two
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FP1, the next two. So could he come up? Could
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Botas come into the picture, which has been,
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you know. kind of the headlines kind of not so
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it's pretty cool seeing a one team give the reserve
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driver to another team and then using that to
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like kind of gauge if they're okay and why not
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yeah i mean no i mean why not it's like it's
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not your car like obviously they're like they're
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competing with each other though i mean like
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legitimately competing with each other and kicks
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for sure obviously they need to fulfill They
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need to fulfill their practice sessions. And
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they have no reserve driver right now. Yeah,
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they have to. They would just dip into the...
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It's like, hey, you get to fulfill this. We get
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to see if this driver can handle an F1 car, you
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know? It's a win -win. Yep. They would just...
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Kicks Albert would just dip into the Ferrari...
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The Ferrari Academy. So why did they explore
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this option? Um, because Flavio asked, I think
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was literally at Flavio was like, like, Hey,
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I want to put my driver in your car. I suppose
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you never know. And they, I guess they were just
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kind of like, whatever. Yeah. Sure. It's good
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for Alpine, but arguably a tryout for other teams
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too. You never know. Like somebody else could
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be watching too, but obviously Alpine is not
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happy with their number two driver. Whoever's
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been at this year. So I also heard. I heard somebody
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talking today about my coworker had brought up
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that he's like, yeah, so what if Flavio is sending
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Paul Aaron over to kick Sauber in part to just
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be like, yeah, man, go get your drive in, go
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have fun in an F1 car, get your chops, you know,
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whatever. And also bring us any information you
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can find on that kick Sauber and how it's so
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freaking fast right now. I mean. We need anything
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we can get. I didn't think about it. I didn't
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think about it like that. That is kind of. Seems
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like a Flavio move. It does seem a little more
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fishy. You know, we'll ignore that for now. That's
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fine. Under the rug. But I mean, OK, last place
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team. Hey, they need all the help. You got to
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you got to take chances at some point. So maybe
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we do see a third driver, which would blow my
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mind. Crazy and not make me happy. I mean, although
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going into 2026, allegedly, they're fairly confident
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they're going to compete. So whatever. We'll
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see who's next. You know what? Why don't you
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just go with Haas right now? Yep, yeah. Sure.
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And then touch on Aston after Haas might as well.
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It was a good weekend. Honestly, Ocon got into
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the points. I think they were each only one position
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worse than last weekend. Nope, because somebody
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got in points last week. Maybe they were 9 and
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10 last week, and maybe that's what I mean. Maybe.
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I can't remember. No, Ocon was in the points.
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Oliver wasn't. But Ollie started 20th or something
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like that, didn't he? He started at the back
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of the pack. Yeah, he was pretty far back. He
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was really far back, and he pushed his way up
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to 11th. Again, showing this kid has unreal race
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craft. Super good race. Actually, if I remember
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correctly, he has the most overtakes on the year.
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Yep, he does. I don't think they call it overtakes.
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He has the most gained positions. Gained positions.
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Yes, he's gained more positions. And Berman started
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in 15th. 15th. Okay, so he made four positions.
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And I remember them commentating saying that
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he had 63 positions gained on the year, which
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is crazy. See, I heard like half that number.
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Oh, was it? Yeah. Maybe I'm blowing smoke out
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my butt. But either way, he's leading the season,
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though, in that. I remember here. How many positions
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did he gain? I have 36. Four people knocked out.
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Oh, you know what? That is a good point. Granted,
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Sainz was already in last. True. How many of
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these were behind him? Did Albon start? I think
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it was only one. Yeah, I think it was only one.
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Depending on where Albon started. Dang, look
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at him trying to just tear it apart. Sorry, you
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just were glazing it so hard. And you know what?
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That is a fair argument. Way to keep me grounded.
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I agree, though. He does have the most overtakes.
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It's easier to overtake when you're in the back.
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But you're right. He is a good rookie. I can't
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handle that right now. Unbelievable. I'm a barefoot.
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You know what? It's okay. We were saying the
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same thing about Lando. a couple years ago so
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you know he's not rookie of the year no obviously
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no obviously i mean i think this i think this
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podcast likes hedger the most right uh kevin
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popped off for that let me see driver standings
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because because kimmy has an argument for me
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now of course this last weekend was not a good
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look for that i will say that we'll get there
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Kimmy's in a Mercedes. Isaac is in a V car. I
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don't give a damn. I'm just saying. Nonetheless,
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though, that aside, I think it was. For being
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a rookie, he's where I expect him to be, if not
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better. I think he's, yeah, he's as good or better.
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Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but nonetheless, Haas, great
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weekend. Oliver Behrman up to 11th, almost to
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the points. Esteban in 10th. Getting more points.
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Only one point, but, you know, it's fine. Take
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what you can get. I said last week we will beat
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Williams with the power of a thousand cuts. Hey,
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good start this weekend. Yeah. Got a point. Gained
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on Williams. Check another one out. All right.
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We'll just stick with you for a second, Mike.
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Aston. Aston? Since you're a fan. I do like Aston.
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So our favorite driver, Lance Stroll, did about
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as good as we expected. That's hilarious. That's
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why I hearted it. Lance Stroll did about as good
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as we expected him, 14th. And Alonzo back at
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the points, showing that the car still has pace
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and showing that Fernando Alonzo is still...
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Is this his third race in a row getting points
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now? Yeah. No. He got points last weekend. He
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DNF'd. Two races ago, I think. No, he didn't.
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Two races ago was Spain. He got points in Spain.
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That was his first point finish. That was his
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first points. And then he got points in Canada.
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Three points. I think this is three races in
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a row. Three races in a row on the points. Okay.
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Interesting. And where are they? He was 7th in
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Canada. Probably 2nd to last. 7th in Canada and
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he was 7th again. He's on a good run after having
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a really bad start. A really bad start. But yeah,
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he's showing better form. He DNF'd Monaco. He
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DNF'd Monaco. They're only 8 points away from
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Racing Bulls in 6th place. Aston is. So, I mean,
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there's still a lot of season left for the likes
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of Racing Bulls, Haas, Aston. And kick. I mean,
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dude, kick is two points behind Aston and only
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ten points behind sixth place right now. I mean,
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that blows my mind. Look, I like Aston, but,
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like, throw them to the wind. It was a decent
16:38
weekend. Okay, whatever. Kick Sauber. That's
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what I'm the most hyped about. Holy cow. It's
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easier when you like both of the drivers a lot.
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Yes, that is true. Yeah. And I absolutely loved...
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I absolutely loved... Bortoletto came in eighth.
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Alonso did get ahead of Gabby, but Gabby did
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pass Alonso. Towards the end of the race. Just
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for a moment. Yeah. And Alonzo did get him back,
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unfortunately. But then there was a really cool.
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Super fun to see, though. Yeah. There was a really
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cool moment at the end of the race that I absolutely
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loved, which was like at the end, they showed
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Gabby getting out of the car and Alonzo was just
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standing over his car. Like waiting for him to
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get out. As soon as Gabby stood up, Alonzo came
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over and like tapped his head and was like, you
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did it. This was great. Like it was such a heartwarming
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thing to see. I loved it. No, it was super fun.
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fun race to watch for kick honestly like even
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their pit crew i mean uh somebody had a 2 .2
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second stop i headed it was kick no no i know
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it was kick i just don't remember which driver
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but same crew right i think it was gabby so mechanics
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um but yeah no that was awesome yeah it was it
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was a great race double point finish for kick
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sauber we none of us saw this coming no no i
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think all three not both cars and points yeah
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Let alone Bortoletto finally getting his first
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points. Right. I didn't think Gabby was going
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to score at all this season. I mean, we're talking,
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I mean. Bortoletto has now scored points. Sorry.
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Sorry. No, no, no, no, no. That's okay. Freak
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out for a second. No, he has scored points. Comparing
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them to Alpen. It wasn't just like a good race.
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crazy good qualifying too not only did he get
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he scored points but his first time in q3 as
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well yeah he had a crazy good lap and a decent
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showing in q3 at that like for for the rest of
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the cars that he was fighting against like like
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that's about as good as you could ask out of
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him right like that's i have no clue he qualified
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eighth and he stayed eighth that's As good as
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you can ever ask, right? Like, that's crazy.
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Super, super happy. Oh, goodness, he's pulling
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the paper out. Oh, and then, I mean, like, we
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got to talk. Like, we got to give Hulkenberg
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his flowers, too. Hulkenberg qualified 20th.
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Yeah, dead last. In the points. And he got into
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the points. And in ninth. He got two points.
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That's crazy. That's unreal. This dude is such
18:53
a good driver, I swear to you. I just have another.
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Cool thing for kicking a hit against Alpine,
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but we all picked kick to finish dead last in
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the Constructors at the beginning of the season.
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I'm more than happy losing that point, honestly.
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My thing is more about Bortoletto now has gotten
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his first points before Jack Dewan or Colapinto
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in a car that we all agreed was worse than the
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Alpine. To start the season. Like, that just
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sucks. Gabby Bortoletto has officially scored
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more than all three of Alpine's drivers. No.
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Pierre Gasly? Gasly has 11 points by himself.
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Oh, does he? Yeah, the team has 11 points. Oh.
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But... Like Sonoda's. Oh. For the viewers. For
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the viewers. Ollie Bierman's behind gas. Mike
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just did the craziest eye roll I've ever seen.
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So blatant. Are you angry? Shut up. All right.
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All right. So we talked about Haas kick. Let's
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move on. Do we? Okay. Let's do something crazy
19:58
here. Let's talk about. Actually, you know what?
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We never talked about Red Bull this early because
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they're never this far back on our list. And
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we should have talked about them even earlier
20:08
yet. They should have been the first car we talked
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about. Yeah, for sure. Oh, no Williams technically,
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but sorry. Yeah, correct, correct. You're right,
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you're right. It's unfortunate. But Max Verstappen
20:18
getting obliterated by Antonelli. Yep. Yeah,
20:24
that was just... yeah yeah i don't got it it
20:28
was a huge hit i did not think it would knock
20:31
him out but like after we saw and he just decided
20:34
he got he got hit he got spun and then i saw
20:36
the car just turn off and i'm like oh yeah that's
20:38
it's done yeah i was thinking about this was
20:41
like even if he could turn that car back on i'm
20:43
like His mindset is that he's in last place now.
20:47
I don't think Max even braces at that. But he's
20:49
like, no, I'm done. This is my weekend. It's
20:51
over. Yeah, he said, I'm done. Let's go relax.
20:53
And then called them effing idiots or something.
20:55
And there's something in between there. I can't
20:57
remember. Yeah, he said he called him an idiot.
21:00
And then he got out. And I think the first thing
21:01
that happened is Kimmy went straight over to
21:03
Max and immediately was like, that's so my fault.
21:06
I messed up. Oh, for sure. He was not. And Max
21:08
was like, yeah, man, it's OK. Whatever. Don't
21:11
worry about it. Max was super like, like. way
21:13
more okay about it than i expected which is kind
21:16
of cool to see kimmy trying to like show him
21:18
where his hands were and he's like oh just yeah
21:20
all right all right you know and you see on the
21:22
replay from the tv pod or whatever like yeah
21:24
literally Turned, nothing happened. Just straight
21:27
into Max. It's one of Max's kids, you know? Max
21:30
has adopted all of the roadies, I think. He kind
21:32
of has. Yeah, so I feel like, yeah, I mean, once
21:35
he saw it was Antonelli, he was like, oh, no,
21:37
this is, yeah, I mean, obviously it wasn't on
21:40
purpose. Thank God it wasn't just Ocon again.
21:42
No, no. Or it wasn't Russell. No. The memes coming
21:47
out of this weekend of, like, Max getting ready
21:49
to fight thinking it was Russell, and then seeing
21:51
it's Kimmy Antonelli and turning all sweet, that's
21:54
hilarious. So funny. So Max, you know, he'll
21:58
rebound. He's Max Verstappen. Yuki. Yuki, man.
22:02
This isn't good for, like, his career. You pretty
22:05
much summed it up perfectly. This is not good.
22:08
For his career trajectory right now. Wow. I couldn't
22:11
believe I just said that. Good job. I feel a
22:13
little messed up. What do you mean? But, like,
22:16
dude. What do you mean for his career trajectory?
22:21
He may not be in Red Bull. Soon, to me. And I
22:24
don't think it'll be Hajar either, and they better
22:26
not move Hajar up there before the end of the
22:28
season. I think it'd be somebody else before
22:31
Yuki, or before Hajar this season. If they were
22:34
smart, keep Hajar in the racing bowls for the
22:39
remainder of the season. Let him get confidence
22:42
in F1, because he's had a decent start to the...
22:46
to his career but yuki right now and if if he
22:49
loses the red bull job now cadillac could come
22:52
into play right obviously as they haven't named
22:54
anybody yet and that'd be a fresh start opportunity
22:57
that i think cadillac would be willing to take
22:59
over the likes of say a checo even though i still
23:02
think checo will be there or over like daniel
23:04
ricardo botas maybe even but yuki's had more
23:08
time and recently in a car but botas you kind
23:12
of know what you're gonna get you know so Just
23:15
an interesting thought, and I saw an article
23:17
somewhere, like, is Yuki's time coming to a close?
23:20
And I'm like, if he were to lose the Red Bull
23:23
job, what now for Yuki? Like, become a reserve
23:28
driver and then just get lost in the shuffle,
23:31
and that's it? Is this, you know? Because it
23:34
hasn't been good at all. The problem is that
23:37
I don't think... Which is crazy because we were
23:38
all vouching for this too. So now our show has
23:40
no credibility. Yeah. But... I want to point
23:43
out that I'm still defending Yuki. I mean, again,
23:47
he's in a car designed for Max Verstappen. That's
23:49
the problem. The car is bad. We know that for
23:51
a fact. So that's kind of what I want to ask
23:53
here. He did finish last of all the people remaining
23:58
on the grid. uh you're right the car is bad max
24:03
proved that in his own qualifying pace granted
24:05
there was a yellow flag at the end of qualifying
24:08
that slowed max down so we had a bad lap um but
24:11
the car was obviously not good this weekend i
24:13
don't think max ever sniffed in qualifying ever
24:16
sniffed the top three I think it was fast in
24:19
some places. Lando, I think, cleared first. I
24:23
think he cleared first in all qualifying sessions,
24:25
but I think Max was up there. I don't think he
24:27
was super far behind. Max made top five in Q3,
24:31
Q2, but he wasn't... For a driver that good on
24:36
a track that he's this familiar with to be not
24:39
in the front row, there's something fundamentally
24:41
wrong with the car. Max was third in Q1, and
24:46
he was... He was farther behind. Oh, he was.
24:50
Oh, no, it's Lawson. Sorry. Oh, yeah. No, Max
24:54
did not do good. Max was fourth in Q1. And he
24:58
was fourth, I think, in Q2. Yeah. And then seventh,
25:04
obviously. Yep. So, like I said, he didn't sniff
25:08
the top three. I guess he was on the second row,
25:11
which is a consolation prize. But for a driver
25:14
that is, like we were saying, the best driver
25:17
on the grid. driving one of his best tracks,
25:21
the fact that he can't beat fourth, there's something
25:25
fundamentally wrong with the car. He was third
25:27
in Q1, third in Q2, and then seventh in Q3. Sorry,
25:29
I just wanted to clear that. It's extremely disappointing
25:30
that he got in that wreck because I was curious
25:33
to see where he would end up from P7. He could
25:37
fight his way pretty far back. I was still figuring
25:41
he was going to work his way up to podium. I
25:43
mean, like, barring the crash. Yeah. So... yes
25:48
the car was bad this weekend i had no doubt about
25:50
that whatsoever but yuki still made some pretty
25:52
bad mistakes during the race yes he did get himself
25:55
that 10 um second penalty yep that's what i mean
25:59
honestly i think it could have gone either way
26:01
with that penalty but he got it uh and he he
26:05
got he got lapped twice because of it that's
26:07
him i just that's when he bumped lando right
26:09
or was it oscar no this was uh what am i thinking
26:12
of somebody bumped It was like one of the bottom
26:15
drivers. It was Franco. I'm trying to save face.
26:19
He collided with Franco. They touched wheels
26:22
and Franco spun. Yeah. Um, I, man, I just don't,
26:27
I don't see them kicking him out of the team.
26:30
And if they do, I think it's before the end of
26:32
the season. You don't think that, no, I think
26:34
they're sticking with them to the end of the
26:35
season. And if they do decide to move with someone
26:38
else into next season, I think they swap again
26:40
with like Hadjar probably. I just don't want
26:42
to see that. I don't want to see it just for
26:44
Hadjar sake. Like just let them stay in there
26:48
for a minute. What I've been seeing a lot of
26:50
is that. It's felt very much so. I've seen nobody
26:54
in F1 fans who have been crying and screaming
26:58
that we need to get Yuki out of this car. None
27:00
of the fans want it, but I've been seeing a lot
27:02
of tabloids that are talking about, is Yuki's
27:05
time up? Are we going to get rid of Yuki? That's
27:06
probably just media being media. Typically, F1
27:09
fans are coming out and they're like, no, leave
27:11
him alone. Just fix his car. Well, he's a likable
27:14
guy. That's the problem. He's not, though. People
27:18
hated Yuki. Ah, nah. They all treated him like
27:22
he was a temperamental kid. He is fire. He's
27:27
spicy. He's a bit spicy. I don't know. I think
27:31
it's just a lot of tabloid noise that you're
27:34
hearing. And a lot of people just aren't happy.
27:37
Christian Horner did say that Yuki made mistakes
27:40
in the weekend. And Christian Horner did say
27:43
our car wasn't where it should have been. But
27:45
that doesn't excuse Yuki's performance. But that's
27:48
like... Whatever. He had a bad weekend with a
27:52
bad car. Had a bad weekend with a bad car. That's
27:54
not even made for him. All right. Chew on that.
27:57
Chew on that. I will. Continue to think about
27:59
Yuki day in and day out. Racing Bulls. We didn't
28:02
talk about them, right? No, we didn't. We've
28:05
mentioned them, so we'll just go into them a
28:07
little bit. Hajar, not quite getting into points
28:09
this week, but Liam Lawson. Wow. It wasn't even
28:16
like a bad race. It wasn't all just luck. He
28:19
actually had a good drive. I know. Give him his
28:23
flowers. I know. I'll fight higher than Verstappen.
28:27
I'll spit on his flowers. Right, which is crazy.
28:29
By literally three thousandths. And again, might
28:33
have been because of the yellow flag. But now
28:34
he can forever say that I qualified better than
28:37
the multi -time champion. I think it's obvious
28:39
that for anyone who's not Max Verstappen, the
28:41
V -Carb is the car to be in. Which I know we
28:45
keep going back to Red Bull at this point, but,
28:47
like... Does Max go to the V -Car? No, I'm just
28:51
kidding. How did Marco make a comment about that?
28:53
I wonder how much faster, like... I wonder if
28:56
Max... What if Max, like... drives the wheels
28:59
off that car and is faster than anyone. That
29:01
would be crazy. I don't think it's possible because
29:03
I think the Red Bull is made for him. Wins the
29:05
rest of the season and steals the championship.
29:07
It'd be so funny if he turned around and swaps
29:10
the V -Carb and then wins WDC in a V -Carb. If
29:13
they can find a way to do it, I actually think
29:15
it would be a good idea to get him in the V -Carb
29:17
even for a test session. For a practice run,
29:19
for sure. Just for a test to see what's going
29:21
right with that car and if they can maybe salvage
29:24
any learnings and then bring it to the Red Bull.
29:27
because it's much easier to drive, even for Yuki's
29:29
sake. I think getting him in that V -Carp for
29:31
a test would be better, and then we can see if
29:33
his pace is better. They're not going to do it.
29:35
They're probably not. It would be fun. Not even
29:38
in a practice session. I'm talking literal test
29:40
off of a race. The simulator. Yeah. I mean, first
29:46
time I think we saw him ever out -qualify and
29:48
out -race Hajar. True. Yeah, it was a crazy weekend
29:52
for Liam. I think this will be an anomaly. Yeah,
29:56
probably. The hater inside of me hopes it will
29:59
be. Oh, my God. All right. All right. Move on.
30:02
Let's move on. Let's see, because we got a lot
30:05
to get through still. Are we at Mercedes now?
30:08
I think we're at Mercedes now. George Russell,
30:11
the Mercedes in general, just, okay, Anthony's
30:14
crashed. We already talked about that rookie
30:15
mistake. We can move on. But George Russell,
30:18
George Russell. Russell. Jeez. Finishing P5.
30:24
Obviously, the car not doing well in the heat.
30:27
Yep. This was exactly what I said last week.
30:29
Pretty much the entire race. And I'm pretty sure
30:31
I still picked George to finish P3, if I remember
30:34
right. And I only did that because I knew you
30:36
guys wouldn't, so I was like, ah, I'll take a
30:38
chance. Banking that Max would also have a decent
30:41
race at a track that he's done well at. Pull
30:44
my hair out. Like I said, I was torn between
30:46
Max and Charles, and here we are. Here we are.
30:49
So, yeah. Look for a Mercedes rebound in a big
30:53
way. This weekend. But we can talk about that
30:56
later. Ferrari. Leclerc 3, Hamilton 4. Just could
31:01
never sniff McLaren after about halfway through
31:05
the race. But you know what? Honestly, good race
31:08
for Ferrari. Kind of what they needed. For sure.
31:12
A 3 -4 finish. You know you're not going to catch
31:13
the McLaren. The McLaren is too dominant right
31:15
now. That's okay. You're beating the rest of
31:18
the teams. Your other rivals. Two of your, no,
31:24
three of your other four rival drivers didn't
31:26
score points. So good weekend for Ferrari. So
31:31
if you're Ferrari now, you've moved into second
31:34
in the constructors, beating Mercedes now only
31:36
by one. So it's going to be back and forth the
31:40
rest of the season. I hope Mercedes beats Ferrari
31:42
this next weekend so they keep leapfrogging each
31:45
other. It could very well go that way, though.
31:47
It could very well go that way. more consistent
31:51
Ferrari's been lately? I don't know. It's going
31:54
to kind of rely on Antonelli at this point. It's
31:58
also going to rely on Hamilton. For sure. He
32:02
couldn't quite catch Leclerc either. But his
32:06
last few races haven't been horrible. No, but
32:10
he's still complaining about the car. That's
32:12
going to happen the rest of the season, I feel
32:15
like. But anyway. Ferrari fans, let's hear from
32:19
you. Please comment somewhere what you would
32:21
like us to talk about Ferrari. I'd like to talk
32:23
more about them, but I just, no offense. I don't
32:26
have a lot of interest in them. So we need a
32:29
Ferrari fan to come in. I mean, I like Ferrari.
32:33
They're just in this weird limbo right now. Do
32:35
you have a Ferrari hat yet? I have a Carlos Sainz
32:40
Ferrari hat. Really? It's all black. That's awesome.
32:44
Why have you not worn that yet? No red whatsoever.
32:46
Well, you can't wear it then. It's also got a
32:48
little small. It was a birthday gift. Just haven't
32:51
worn it yet. Well, wear it for one show and just
32:53
be uncomfortable since it's so small. Maybe I'll
32:55
do that. Just once. Maybe I'll do that. Just
32:57
once. Maybe I'll do that. You can wear that as
33:00
a backup just in case. Okay. Yep. All right,
33:03
McLaren. McLaren, let's go. Literally in a league
33:06
of their own, nobody could keep up with McLaren.
33:10
Nobody. Everyone else was basically a tractor
33:13
compared to the McLaren Rocket. Where did this
33:16
pace come from? Is it just the tire management?
33:19
They were fighting. Norris and Piastri were fighting
33:24
through the first 20 laps, and they were still
33:27
building a 10 -second gap to Ferrari. insane
33:32
tire dag who i've never met her this is crazy
33:36
mclaren is insane we finally got to see true
33:39
fighting still going between two still going
33:41
good cars right two crazy good drivers into in
33:45
the best car we saw fighting between them we
33:47
never we never really got to see that word red
33:48
bull in the last like four years right i mean
33:51
yeah no not no no not really whoa we saw Piastri
33:56
Norris really fight for it. Norris held that
33:58
pass. She did have a really weird moment at one
34:01
point, almost T -boating Norris. They got on
34:03
the horn really quick and said, hey, don't do
34:05
that. You can fight, but don't do that. They
34:07
said it's that marginal move or something. Marginal
34:10
move, yeah. They both had horrible pit stops.
34:13
I think both times. They did, yeah. It was the
34:15
front left. Yeah. At one point, I was like, oh,
34:18
Piastri's going to get him on the undercut. And
34:20
then Piastri had an equally bad pit stop. I'm
34:22
like, okay, never mind. And then by the end,
34:24
Piastri. she was catching norris again so like
34:27
pasture is showing better i think management
34:29
um even after being uh behind a lot of cars and
34:34
only really getting, you know, stopped, installed
34:36
from traffic. Same as Norris, I'll say. So that
34:39
kind of lessened the gap a big good bit. But
34:41
crazy fighting for the first 20 laps, right?
34:43
Oh, my God. A complete, you guys have to admit,
34:47
a complete league of their own. There's no car
34:50
out there that could do anything that they were
34:51
doing. Like literally in the dock, I said these
34:54
two had me nervous giggling for the first 20
34:56
laps. Yeah, man. And I'm not even a fan of McLaren,
34:58
but I was just like, whoa, like, oh, that's,
35:01
that's. little much oh they're gonna go again
35:03
oh my gosh like yeah i'm just i'm just i'm pretty
35:06
excited watching like don't crash don't crash
35:07
don't crash don't crash don't crash yeah i think
35:09
that's what the team was saying oh yeah but then
35:12
imagine the i i feel sick during mclaren and
35:16
stuff like this i can only imagine what the pit
35:18
wall feels andreas tell his fingernails are gone
35:20
because but i just love too how the engineer
35:25
for each driver really truly started to help
35:29
their specific driver like oh yeah like there
35:32
was some some coaches driver specific things
35:36
yeah yeah not not team things and i was like
35:38
yeah this is kind of interesting helping them
35:39
compete against each other for sure which literally
35:43
talking about piastri like and how he could like
35:46
is catching you or how your pace is compared
35:48
to which all in all just made them both drive
35:51
away from the ferraris too like oh man that was
35:54
it was an incredible team race for McLaren, like,
35:58
all the way around. I was cheering the entire
36:02
way through, like, come on, Oscar, come on! Like,
36:04
every time Oscar made a move, I was like, oh,
36:06
oh, oh. Which is funny, because, like, let's
36:09
see, I have a lap 17 note for McLaren right after
36:13
I said this, so early in the race, I said in
36:17
my notes, does Piastri feel more polished? But
36:20
then, the way Lando drove at the end of the race
36:24
was... You know, he had a couple of small mistakes,
36:28
but they both drove elite. I know. I know. It
36:31
was just back and forth. You know, it was just
36:34
awesome. Great showing. Oh, and also another
36:39
thing. I forgot to bring this up when we were
36:41
on. I had a two second pit stop, by the way,
36:43
for Oscar. You said a two second? 2 .0. Yes.
36:48
His second pit was crazy good. Yes. Anyway, sorry.
36:52
I forgot to bring this up while we were on Kickstarter.
36:55
Gabby won Driver of the Day. He did, yes. Which
36:57
is awesome. As he should. As he should have.
37:00
I would have thought Liam would have been top
37:03
three at least. No. People don't like Liam. No,
37:06
I know that. I know that. I know that. It was
37:08
Bordaletto, and then I think it was... oscar
37:10
and lando yeah which makes sense that sounds
37:12
right that sounds right yeah yeah i was i know
37:14
i thought he made it i was so happy to see i
37:17
was like i was like oh i'm voting bordoletto
37:18
a hundred percent yeah i was really happy to
37:20
see that he got up there yeah i uh i watched
37:24
after well after the race was done and so i was
37:26
watching i was like and they they showed driver
37:28
of the day i was like yeah let's give lando his
37:30
driver of the day again he ran away with the
37:32
race british bias whatever and then like they
37:35
got to the end they're like gabby bordoletto
37:36
wins driver of the day i was like huh uh sauber
37:39
yeah this is like this is incredible incredible
37:42
all right comms joe you got some comms uh i got
37:46
a few comms yes so lap seven uh oh this is just
37:53
kind of highlighting i'm sorry i'm glazing mclaren
37:55
a ton right now but highlighting it both we're
37:57
used to it every week at lap seven they were
38:00
already over two seconds from mclare uh uh uh
38:04
oscar's engineer to oscar your call in the racing
38:07
situation giving him complete control on what
38:09
he wants to do i've yes i actually loved the
38:13
absolute heck out of that yeah uh that was awesome
38:16
lap 16 charles and his engineer uh we need lyco
38:19
every lap charles lyco's lifting coast um Charles
38:24
responds, that is what I am doing, Brian. That
38:26
is what I am doing. That was that. And then my
38:30
last little bit is Hamilton and his engineer
38:32
once again having some domestic issues. Hamilton
38:35
almost pleading to stay out on track. And his
38:40
kind of pleas just going ignored and saying box
38:43
now. box now he's like he's uh he has his you
38:46
know i i think i feel good on this tire i can
38:49
stay out i can stay out box now like just yeah
38:52
literally i mean literally ignoring he does it
38:54
because i think he knows the engineers know better
38:56
they know that he will be probably faster um
38:59
and if especially if they're forcing him to do
39:02
it like they're not even considering his option
39:03
gotta be a reason yeah he's like okay i'll box
39:06
but like it's just it's it doesn't help the it
39:11
doesn't help the narrative around him and his
39:14
engineer or him and Ferrari. It paints it in
39:16
a bad light. And of course they're going to air
39:18
it because it's content, but it's, you know,
39:21
and it could be taken out of context. I don't
39:23
know what they said before or after that, you
39:25
know, he could have, he could have Hamilton would
39:27
be like, okay, that's fine. Or he could have,
39:29
it could have been explained to him. I don't
39:31
know, but it just, the narrative, the look isn't
39:34
great. So for sure. Sure. Did you have any comms?
39:37
Hand me that hat. I don't have a comm. Oh, snap.
39:43
It's been a while. It is in shambles. We need
39:47
to re -wrap it. You want to know why Max crashed
39:51
this week? It's because GP wasn't here. GP was
39:56
gone this weekend, and because GP wasn't here,
39:59
we had to take Max out so that we couldn't have
40:01
comms between Max and some other random guy that
40:04
isn't GP Lambiasi. GP would have told Max that
40:08
Antonelli was gone. He would have told him. Look,
40:10
all I'm saying is if GP were here, GP would have
40:12
been like, okay, Max, two meters to the left,
40:16
two meters to the left. And Max would have been
40:18
like, okay. I realized that we were talking about
40:26
engineers, and I was like, oh, that's right.
40:28
GP wasn't here this weekend. What if that's why
40:30
Max crashed? I mean, we could roll with that.
40:36
I wonder if that's what they're doing. That's
40:38
my tinfoil hat. All right. The only one I had
40:41
was from a commentator. When Ocon passed ghastly,
40:44
the commentator says, it's like taking candy
40:46
from a baby. Which also made me feel negative.
40:50
Wait, who said that? Which also made me feel
40:52
negative about Alpine. When Ocon passed Gasly.
40:56
Who said that? One of the commentators. Oh, man.
40:59
I love it. He said, it's like taking candy from
41:02
a baby. Yeah. I was like, oh, wow. I had to rewind
41:06
it to make sure I heard it right. Actually, I
41:08
was like, ah. I think it's better to say it if
41:10
you're looking at, like, a McLaren doing that.
41:12
And Esteban, of all people. No, that was my thing
41:18
that I was hung up on. It was Esteban. Over Gasly,
41:21
too. Like, the combination, and then, like, what?
41:24
What are you talking about? Oak on overtaking
41:26
Gasly. He's like, taking Kenny from me. You?
41:29
Dude, I was like, you know, Smelty's upset. He's
41:32
stupid. He's just stupid. That was pretty much
41:36
me, yes. That's funny. Holy crap. Do we have
41:40
any quick thoughts? I don't, really. No, I think
41:43
I'm good. Okay. You have a quick thought, Mike.
41:45
I mean, that was kind of your quick thought.
41:47
This guy only has long thoughts. You need a what?
41:48
I need a kick hat. That's my quick thought. You
41:50
need a kick hat? All right. Hey. That's fit.
41:53
That's fit. I need a kick salver hat. Oh, kick
41:58
hat. Kick salver hat. I thought he said he needs
42:00
a kick hat. I was like, I could use a kick hat,
42:02
too. Oh, man. Kick salver cat? I don't understand.
42:06
All right. Kev, let's go. Get me out of here.
42:08
Holy crap. All right, to start off our news,
42:20
we already kind of talked about these first two
42:22
things, so I'll just kind of fly through them.
42:24
Feel free to interject. Alpine looking at Botas
42:27
while he's... Who put this in here, Joe? Being
42:31
favored for Cadillac? It's all over the interwebs.
42:36
The Caddy part is all clickbait, right? Yeah,
42:39
same as Ricardo coming out of retirement. I feel
42:43
like he is a hot commodity right now. But the
42:46
most interesting bit of this is that... Because
42:47
he's fun to watch on social media and the ladies
42:49
like his butt. Of course. Alpine likes his butt,
42:53
too, apparently, because they are now five. He
42:56
was come out and say, like, we're not looking
42:57
at him this season, but we have to keep our options
43:00
open, you know? So he could have a seat even
43:03
if it's not in Cadillac next year, you know?
43:05
For sure. I mean, OK, I know what you're saying.
43:07
Because right now, Alpine's second seat is going
43:09
to be wide open at the moment. There's nobody.
43:12
Nobody has proven worthy. I think Botas is ready
43:14
to get back in, bro. For Valtteri's sake, I hope
43:16
he doesn't. He's at every single race. He's ready,
43:18
man. He wants to race, you know. For Valtteri's
43:20
sake, I hope he doesn't go down. Didn't you put
43:22
in the chat today? Wasn't that you? Somebody
43:24
put somewhere that Botas. Oh, it's right in front
43:27
of me. Oh, yeah. This is a fun fact. Botas holds
43:30
the record for most career points without a world
43:33
driver's championship. Means you're pretty freaking
43:35
good at F1. That feels kind of bad, but also
43:39
that's kind of crazy. I don't think that means
43:42
it's bad. I'm saying it feels bad. But it's during
43:45
freaking Hamilton's run and Mercedes' run. It
43:53
was when Mercedes was literally a godlike car.
43:57
But he still did it. He did do it. Anyway. Alpine
44:04
also. We already talked about Paul Aaron. Getting
44:07
to run some FP1 sessions, potentially a future
44:10
role. August break is looming. Does Alpine come
44:14
out with a new driver coming at the end of August?
44:18
We'll see. F1 movie. Hopefully you guys listened
44:21
to our F1 movie review. That was fun. You were
44:26
saying today F2 could already be rumored? The
44:30
F1 movie earned $140 million first week, and
44:32
it was fantastic. It was the best Apple... film
44:36
that they've had on opening weekend before so
44:40
they're already so immediately they started considering
44:43
f1 the movie 2 electric boogaloo and i'm very
44:46
curious i wonder i mean i feel like our script
44:52
was pretty good it was pretty good it was a pretty
44:54
good script um But I think it's interesting.
44:57
I looked it up right after the movie, if they
44:59
were ever considering. And Google was like, it's
45:01
very unlikely this could happen. Release date
45:03
2029. Maybe, like, spinoffs or, like, you know,
45:06
more biography -centered projects would come
45:09
out. And then immediately today, it was like,
45:12
no, I mean, like, why wouldn't they look at a
45:15
second one if this one did so well, right? Yikes.
45:18
I mean, honestly, the same director. I feel like
45:20
you'd have to have people from the same movie,
45:22
though, like your guys' idea. Yeah. I mean, you'd
45:26
have to. Do you remember? I also want to tell
45:28
you, I can't remember what her name is. Kate?
45:34
Yeah, Kate. She voiced Friday in the Marvel movies.
45:37
Do you know that? Oh, did she? She did. She was
45:39
also a racing technical director in those movies,
45:42
too. I guess I can kind of hear that. Anyway,
45:46
F1 movie did really well. Maybe an F1 movie,
45:47
too. F2. F1 -2. F2? F2 movie? F2? Okay, moving
45:53
on. F1 -2. All right, moving on. This is the
45:55
one that's kind of controversial, whatever. Maybe
45:59
real, maybe not, whatever. But Toto. Toto. Why
46:02
do I always do that? Toto came out and said.
46:06
That he kind of wants the whole George Russell
46:08
thing wrapped up. Even quote like mid -summer
46:13
break in August. Like two weeks in, he kind of
46:16
wants either George Russell signed or... confirm
46:20
that they're moving on from george russell so
46:22
like he wants this thing wrapped up which again
46:24
now wiggles in a max verstappen thing which allegedly
46:27
there's this exit clause in verstappen's contract
46:30
that could go into effect if he's lower than
46:33
fourth in the wdc um he's signed through 2028
46:38
but Oh, Joe needs the hat. Joe needs the hat.
46:41
I have a take. But I'd like you to finish your
46:43
sentence. No, but that's it. Like, could we see
46:46
Max Verstappen go to Mercedes? Or Aston was also
46:49
a rumor at some point. So, what if? Joe's changing
46:52
hats. He's about to put on the tinfoil hat, maybe.
46:54
I think that it's a clear choice keeping Russell
46:57
on. But what if Toto is waiting to sign Russell
47:00
to see if Max does leave Red Bull? Which is a
47:03
crazy thought. Which is why. It's crazy. That's
47:06
why people are like, we'll just wait until offseason,
47:09
kind of. You think that's crazy? I don't even
47:11
think that's crazy. I think it's crazy. There's
47:12
no way Max is leaving Red Bull. There's no way
47:14
he's joining Mercedes. He doesn't need money.
47:17
They don't need to pay him a ton of money. I
47:19
think I've said this before. He's more likely
47:20
to retire right now than, I think, join another
47:23
team. But what if he kind of likes being around
47:27
all these young rookies and wants to start helping?
47:30
He seems slightly different in interviews. A
47:33
little bit more personable. Yeah, does he seem
47:36
incredibly frustrated with the car, though? I
47:38
feel like I don't see that. I mean, he's always
47:40
frustrated. He races frustrated. in general yeah
47:44
even when his car was the fastest on the track
47:47
he was frustrated yeah but being in the car i
47:49
i kind of i take them as whole different people
47:50
sometimes like that's just him when he's driving
47:53
the car you know for sure that's what i mean
47:55
so he's always frustrated out of the car reflecting
47:58
on it has he ever been like this is the worst
48:01
car ever and i'm having a horrible time or he's
48:03
most like no he just didn't have the pace and
48:05
that's kind of it you know i don't know I think
48:08
he does complain about the car a lot outside
48:10
of the car, talking about the car just wasn't
48:13
there, there's problems with X, Y, or Z, yada,
48:18
yada, whatever the case may be. So I think he
48:20
does complain about that kind of stuff a lot.
48:22
Is that good enough for him to want to leave
48:24
Red Bull? I don't know. Frankly, I don't see
48:28
him going to Mercedes. No. I think if he's going
48:32
anywhere, he's going to Aston. Like, Aston can
48:36
afford him because they got Lawrence money. And
48:40
also, Aston has Adrian Newey and Honda. Yes.
48:45
Both of which were... things that provided him
48:48
with championships before. That's true. And...
48:52
Toto really wants kind of Mac, so he's kind of
48:55
made that clear. But so, like... But so does
48:58
Lawrence Stroll. So does Lawrence Stroll. For
48:59
sure. They also have... a driver who's in the
49:03
seat for an indefinite amount of time, and Fernando
49:06
Alonso. Is that what it would be, though? Fernando
49:09
Alonso and Max? Because if it's Max and Stroll,
49:13
that's a complete freaking joke to me. It could
49:14
be Max and Stroll. If it's Max and Alonso, that
49:17
would blow my mind. That would be a crazy power
49:20
lineup. That would blow my mind. What if Lawrence
49:21
is like... One of his contracts is like, my son
49:24
drives in the car. That's non -negotiable. It
49:27
could be. Good luck, dog. It's not going to happen.
49:31
Sorry, dude. I think Stroll can get points if
49:34
he has a really good car, but he's not going
49:35
to get wins. Here's the other question. He's
49:37
had some better runs this year. I'll give him
49:39
that. He is 12th in WDC, which is tied with Alonzo,
49:44
by the way. We've talked about Lawrence losing
49:47
some power in his ownership stakes in Aston Martin
49:52
as he's been selling off to Adrian Newey and
49:55
to Saudi Arabia and stuff like that. What if
50:00
he gets overruled and everyone's like, we don't
50:04
want Lance here. We want to win a championship.
50:06
And he says, well, you lose Lance, you lose me.
50:09
They go, that's cool. We've got Aramco behind
50:11
us. And Aramco is willing to pick up the team.
50:14
Because Aramco is already their title sponsor.
50:17
And Aramco has the potential to just be like,
50:21
yeah, you know what? We have Adrian Newey and
50:23
Honda. And we could have two prior world champions
50:27
as our drivers. Why would we not take that up?
50:31
Because it's a lot of money. It's a lot of money.
50:33
But think of all the money they could win by
50:35
winning. Ken's got a question. If they can't
50:38
afford the people that they have now, they might
50:41
not be able to get them out. Who says they can't?
50:43
But who says they can, right? True. I mean, you're
50:46
right. David, Joe, I love you. I think he's already
50:55
right there. You could be right there and still
50:59
have complete control, though. I think he's been
51:08
having to. He owns 33%. Yeah, so he owns 33%.
51:12
He is not the majority owner. He isn't? Yeah,
51:18
but other people could own, like... It's just,
51:21
yeah, other people own smaller cuts of the pie,
51:23
right? Oh, wait, I'm sorry. He is the majority
51:26
owner of the S and F1 team, yes. Yes. He is still
51:30
the majority owner, but there are other stake
51:35
owners that... If the other stake owners work
51:38
together, like, him owning 33 % isn't good enough,
51:44
right? So... We'll see. Another thing to keep
51:51
an eye on as we lead up to summer break coming
51:54
up very quickly, actually. He invested $182 million
51:57
into Aston Martin. That just doesn't come out
52:01
of thin air. Aston Martin, the car company, right?
52:04
They have a lot of backers. Yes. Until this endeavor,
52:08
right? They have a lot of backers. You own 16
52:10
% of Aston Martin as a whole. Yes, a 16 .7 %
52:14
stake. Crazy. yeah that is it is crazy yeah wild
52:18
it it's he just he brings in a lot of money for
52:21
him yep like they're using they're losing a huge
52:23
source of investment that would be really dumb
52:25
there's a possibility they can't afford newie
52:28
anymore right yeah sure you know yeah and then
52:31
it's like well if that's if we're losing newie
52:33
what's the point even if we don't have a car
52:35
that's going to be built for us like yeah so
52:38
i see your point though yeah i just It still
52:41
comes to a point where he's like, this isn't
52:44
working, son. We need to talk. Maybe you should
52:47
get into construction. So you're saying Max from
52:54
Mercedes. Okay. Sounds good. That's what I get
52:58
from all that. Kev, let's head into our Silverstone
53:02
preview. I'm here to take you through the Great
53:16
Britain Grand Prix. Let's get up to speed for
53:21
Silverstone coming up this weekend. It'll be
53:23
the Formula One Qatar Airways British Grand Prix
53:25
2025. Of course, fun facts as always, this is
53:29
the home of the first ever F1 World Championship
53:31
round, and Silverstone is a former airfield which
53:35
housed a Wellington bomber. The first deer as
53:38
straight of the track is named after this said
53:40
bomber. It's called the Wellington Straight.
53:42
I appreciate that fact. I appreciate that fact.
53:45
Fact. What the heck? I'm sorry. Mike just catching
53:50
straights. He's on his phone. He wasn't paying
53:52
attention. I'm pulling up information about the
53:54
race so I can make better predictions about you.
53:56
Talking about the Wellington Strait and how it
53:58
was named after the Wellington Bomber. Yeah,
54:00
I'm listening, you loser. You were named after
54:01
the Wellington Bomber? Dang. Did you know that
54:03
the Silverstone Grand Prix? Okay. Starting grid
54:10
last year, the top three were fully British.
54:12
It was Russell to Hamilton to Norris. Lights
54:15
out, and all three Brits lead the pack to the
54:17
first corners. Two Mercedes followed by a McLaren.
54:19
Lando putting pressure on Hamilton. Goes a little
54:22
wide at the turn before our first era straight,
54:24
giving Max the opportunity behind for an overtake,
54:27
which he makes. Slotting himself into third.
54:29
A little further down the grid, the Williams
54:31
of Albon makes a slight contact with Fernando
54:33
ahead of him. Wing to wheel. Both drivers making
54:36
it out unscathed. Wing to wheel. wing to wheel
54:39
lap 15 lando is able to get back up to max and
54:42
take third position back at his home grand prix
54:44
from the helicopter cam you can hear the rumble
54:46
of the crowd cheering for one of their own this
54:48
isn't the last of the papaya overtakes his piastre
54:50
makes the move on max for fourth only two laps
54:53
later as the rain begins next lap rain still
54:57
falling and no one pitting hamilton makes the
54:59
move on russell for the top step of the podium
55:01
at the back straight showing us he still has
55:03
some fuel in his system lap 19 and both missed
55:06
the first turn completely due to the damp trap
55:08
going off track and rejoining a few turns later
55:11
through the grass norris completely closes in
55:14
on this mistake getting right behind the pair
55:16
of mercs piastri takes a similar route as the
55:18
mercedes behind lando the track giving them no
55:20
room for errors on the inside at the turn before
55:23
the first drs straight lando takes second position
55:25
from russell seemingly handing this tricky track
55:28
battle better than the others he continues to
55:31
prove this by overtaking hamilton right after
55:33
the starting line leading his home gp russell
55:36
starts to put the pressure on hamilton backing
55:38
himself up to piastri who makes the move for
55:40
third and sticks it at the first drs straight
55:42
on the back straight he makes the move on hamilton
55:44
breaking the british convoy and giving mclaren
55:47
a one -two for the time being lap 28 our front
55:51
runners finally start to come in for the enters
55:53
however being so close piastri has to continue
55:55
on unable to double box murk risks it for the
55:58
biscuit and mastery performs the double stack
56:00
after his extra lap in the rain on slicks piastri
56:03
falls to six behind signs lap 34 russell is told
56:07
to retire the car after a fantastic showing at
56:10
his home gp he shakes his head as he parks in
56:13
his box on lap 39 hamilton and verstappen in
56:16
two and three respectively make their way into
56:18
the pit for some softs, the sun shining on the
56:20
still damp track, while Lando in first stays
56:23
out for another lap. He pits the end of this
56:25
lap, has a long stop, and loses his position
56:27
to Hamilton by a second and a half. Verstappen
56:29
starts to put the pressure on Lando eight laps
56:31
later and overtakes him for second place. Lando's
56:34
unable to fight back and secure the 1 -2 Brit
56:36
finish, but who other than Sir Lewis Hamilton
56:39
to bring his first win in almost a thousand days
56:41
home at home. Our final is Hamilton, Verstappen,
56:45
Norris, Hammer Time, Hamilton. Verstappen, Norris,
56:49
Piastri, Sainz, Hulkenberg, Stroll, Alonso, Albon,
56:53
and Sunoda. Boom. Hulkenberg in six, by the way.
56:58
Hulkenberg in six, by the way. In a Haas. In
57:00
a Haas. This was when Haas was pretty good, though.
57:03
Now we have kick pretty good. Maybe we see a
57:06
repeat? Repeat? Kick in six? Kick in six? Kick
57:09
in six. This is actually an extremely interesting
57:12
race. For predictions? Yeah, it is. It is, actually.
57:17
Looking back at the last three years of this
57:19
race. I knew exactly what I was going to do at
57:24
the start of this year for this race. Let's just
57:26
rip Joey because we already know what his podium
57:28
is. It's all Brits. I'm not going to tell you
57:30
the order. I will know your order. You don't
57:33
know my order. I know your order. I guarantee
57:34
you don't know. I know your order. There's no
57:36
way you have a Luteless Hamilton. I know your
57:38
order. We're starting with you. Can I guess your
57:39
order? We're starting with you. You can guess
57:40
my order after we start with you. Our points
57:43
are at 29 for Smeltsy and Mike and I at 27. Only
57:47
two points behind. We're catching up. Secretly,
57:49
I was hoping Oscar never caught up to Lando because
57:51
you would get four points and I'd be like, ah.
57:53
So I'm happy that didn't happen. That's part
57:55
of the reason I was voting. Also, I like Oscar
57:58
a little more than Lando. But yeah, I'm like,
58:00
I can go back and forth between them. I love
58:01
them. them both so much they're both great all
58:03
of us all of our points all came from the mclarens
58:06
yeah so yeah just love that for us you just don't
58:11
trust oscar i do that's gonna be i do i do i
58:15
picked him to win at canada and he did all right
58:18
well tell us so give it to a third to first funny
58:23
no actually okay first and third Second? Starting
58:28
with second. Hold on, hold on. Oh, God. I didn't
58:31
know we were going to start right now. I mean,
58:34
it's only when we always do it. Man, I didn't
58:38
think we did this normally. I wasn't prepared.
58:42
I've never done this. I got in his head because
58:45
he doesn't know my order. He spent so long thinking
58:48
about your order. He's freaking out. No, I'm
58:51
going to do something crazy, and it might blow
58:53
your mind a little bit. He doesn't know I'm going
58:55
to put Behrman on there. No. Oh, golly. The surprise
59:04
appearance of Valtteri Bottas. Yeah, right? My
59:11
prediction is that George Russell will be sick
59:13
and Valtteri Bottas will take the seat and put
59:15
himself on the podium. Oh, no. Lando. Lando Norris.
59:21
Lando Norris. In what? In first. Okay. I know
59:24
in first. Okay. Dagon. Oh, my brain is just crazy
59:38
right now because it could be wet. It might not,
59:42
but it might be. And George Russell hasn't finished
59:46
two of the last three Silverstone races, so I
59:51
don't know if I can trust him, even though the
59:52
car should be better. That is a good point. That's
59:54
a really good point. The car should be better.
59:56
I shouldn't have shared that. It's not going
59:59
to change my podium. Yeah, I don't know if it's
1:00:01
going to change my podium. Oscar Lewis. Oscar
1:00:07
and Lewis. I love that. All right. I don't like
1:00:13
that podium. How are we going to do this, Mike?
1:00:17
Well, you already know your podium, so it doesn't
1:00:19
matter. All right. You go first, then. Yeah,
1:00:21
I'll go first. I still want to guess your podium.
1:00:23
And I promise, no matter what you say, I'm not
1:00:26
going to. I don't care. I haven't typed down
1:00:29
here. I typed it before. It's okay. That's okay.
1:00:36
I've been thinking of all the different ways
1:00:38
that I can throw a wrench into this. I thought
1:00:40
I was the one throwing the wrench. I thought
1:00:42
I was going to put George in this whole week.
1:00:45
I thought I was going to say that George was
1:00:47
finishing two or three. I'm going to wait for
1:00:50
him to say stuff before I roast you. I mean,
1:00:54
this is the race to put Jar Jar on the podium.
1:00:57
Yes, you roasted your... Yeah, 100%. It is. It
1:00:59
is. Because it's going to be colder. And also,
1:01:02
you're right. He hasn't finished the last two
1:01:04
Silverstone, but he's qualified very well here.
1:01:06
He has. I am putting Lando Norris to win this
1:01:10
race. Yes. As much as I want to put Oscar. Isn't
1:01:15
that going to be a boring podium for all of us
1:01:16
if we're all putting Lando? I mean... Dang, he
1:01:21
was fast. Wait, did you also put Lando to win?
1:01:23
I did. That might be the first time I've picked
1:01:26
Lando all year. You know what? Bleep it. Put
1:01:29
Oscar to win. I have faith in my boy, Oscar Norris.
1:01:33
I said Oscar Norris. Oscar Norris. Same guy.
1:01:36
Oscar Piastri to win. That's my boy. So Lando's
1:01:40
two. Ride or die. Who's two? So in two, I'm putting
1:01:42
George Russell. Yeah, that's good. And in three,
1:01:46
then, I'm going to put Max Verstappen. I was
1:01:53
going to do Lando. I was going to do Lando, George,
1:01:57
Max. I don't think Lewis is going to be on the
1:01:59
podium. I'm sorry, guys. You're getting a max
1:02:01
of two points this weekend. I'm calling it. You're
1:02:05
getting a max of two points. Honestly, I think
1:02:08
that Lando is faster on this track than Oscar.
1:02:14
But also, Oscar is way different than we've seen
1:02:15
him the last two seasons. He's hard to predict.
1:02:18
That's what I mean. I was looking. I think he
1:02:21
got fourth the last two races in a row. The only
1:02:23
thing that's easy about Oscar is knowing that
1:02:26
he's probably going to be on a podium. Otherwise,
1:02:28
it's like you don't know if he's going to win
1:02:30
or not. Okay. Lando, Hamilton, and then George.
1:02:36
So my thinking is that I feel like George could
1:02:40
get... third place either way and oscar is probably
1:02:43
going to get second so at least i can maybe get
1:02:45
four i don't actually think lewis is going to
1:02:48
make it into the podium unfortunately but i have
1:02:51
to go with the dream right and so i'm putting
1:02:53
george in third because i think he's most likely
1:02:55
to get third because lewis probably isn't going
1:02:57
to get second so a little bit of strategy i have
1:03:00
a little bit of strategy i want george russell
1:03:02
to win this race I really want Lando. I'm just
1:03:05
doing this for the sake of the pick. I want Oscar
1:03:07
to win this race. I want George Russell to win
1:03:08
this race. All right, well, I guess let's talk
1:03:10
crap on Sunday. Has Lando won the British Grand
1:03:15
Prix before? Lando? No. No. So, yeah, I want
1:03:20
Lando. I think Lando is faster on this track,
1:03:24
and I think Lewis is the fastest driver on this
1:03:27
track. I think Lewis is the best at driving this
1:03:30
track out of anybody. And we've seen him put
1:03:32
that car up. He won last year somehow. That'd
1:03:34
be crazy if he won at Silverstone in a Ferrari.
1:03:37
That would be wild. That would be wild. And it
1:03:40
would also be poetic if his first ever win in
1:03:42
a Ferrari was at Silverstone. It would be poetic.
1:03:48
I don't think it's going to happen. When I was
1:03:49
looking at results three years ago, you know
1:03:51
who finished P8? Mick Schumacher. He just had
1:03:56
to bring that up. I didn't want to rip your heart
1:03:58
off. I'm really sad. If Lewis is to win a race,
1:04:05
it will be the British Grand Prix. I was really
1:04:08
torn between putting Lewis on my podium because
1:04:10
I'm like, God, he's so good on this track. I'm
1:04:12
like, man, he is just not jiving well enough
1:04:15
in this car. And Max was out of the points last
1:04:18
week, and Max has a tendency to come back fighting.
1:04:22
Yeah, after DNFing, he tends to come back with
1:04:24
a vengeance. So I think I just... I wanted to
1:04:30
put Max at fourth and put Lewis on the podium,
1:04:32
and I was just like, I can't see it. My gut is
1:04:35
telling me that Max will be on the podium. Yeah,
1:04:38
you have a crazy podium. I do kind of have a
1:04:40
crazy podium. I think you have the potential.
1:04:42
Like I said, I think you're going to get a max
1:04:43
of two. I think Smeltsy and I have a max of four,
1:04:46
probably, just because I don't trust Lewis enough
1:04:49
to get on the podium. Yeah, Lewis is a tough
1:04:51
one. Guy, you're going to get so much crap from
1:04:53
me on Sunday if I get six points. I think Oscar
1:04:58
is a fair bet for first. I think not having Lando
1:05:01
there is pretty crazy. It's crazy. I think Lando's
1:05:04
not getting podium if he crashes. That's it,
1:05:06
yeah. And I want to preface, I do think Lando
1:05:08
will probably be on the podium. I'm only not
1:05:10
putting him on there because both of you guys
1:05:11
are putting him on there. I think Max is tough
1:05:13
on the podium here. I think that car is tough.
1:05:16
He didn't do well here last. No, he did do well
1:05:19
here. I'm sorry. He's two years removed from
1:05:21
winning it. He got second last year. I don't
1:05:23
know. And he won it the year before. I literally
1:05:25
just talked about it. Okay, never. Max could
1:05:28
do well here. Whatever. All right. So whatever.
1:05:33
Are you over it? I'm over it. I'm over it. Whatever.
1:05:37
Joe, you didn't take your cards home last week.
1:05:40
Those are on Saturday. Oh, those are caps. Never
1:05:42
mind. Kevin, I'm trying to give your cards away.
1:05:44
Sorry. Sorry. All right. So next week we'll be
1:05:48
recapping Silverstone. Maybe some news if there's
1:05:52
anything that's came out. And then we'll probably
1:05:53
go on break. We're going to test something while
1:05:56
we're out, while we're away. And if that works,
1:06:00
we'll release that as well. And then we're, like,
1:06:03
gone for, like, two weeks. Yeah, I think so.
1:06:06
So, yeah, Joe. I'm going to cry. Mike, thanks
1:06:11
for being here, my guy. I'm crying right now.
1:06:13
You're crying right now? Why? Because we're not
1:06:15
going to be here. Lack of F1. We're here next
1:06:17
week, buddy. We're here next week to recap. Thank
1:06:20
you. To recap Lando Norton. To recap my exact
1:06:23
podium was a perfect six. If you get another
1:06:27
perfect six. Wait, am I the only one with a perfect
1:06:29
six or didn't one of you guys? You always talk
1:06:32
about it. You always bring it up. Nobody's even
1:06:35
had a five. There's some fours out there, though.
1:06:40
There are a couple fours out there. We've got
1:06:41
multiple fours. Mike's got a few fours. I don't
1:06:43
think I've ever gotten a four. Oh, I have gotten
1:06:45
one four. Yeah, you got one four. Mike's got
1:06:47
two fours. You're about to see me get three fours.
1:06:50
I'm very much not doing that. Oh, my computer
1:06:52
just died. All right, I guess that's a good one.
1:06:56
Anyway, yeah. Oh, no, I don't have my line in
1:06:59
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1:07:11
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1:07:14
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1:07:18
did I say last time? Oh, stay fast. That's so
1:07:21
lame. I don't know if I'm going to say it. Stay
1:07:23
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