Latest / The Breakfast Club / Omarion Talks Growth To Mindfulness, 'Unbothered", B2K Drama & Mor
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
- 0:09Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
- 0:11Speaker 1: the building. Yeah, welcome, Hey, thanks for having me and
- 0:16Speaker 1: spend a minute. Ya, how you're doing a long time?
- 0:18Speaker 1: How are you? Man? All as well? Tell me about
- 0:20Speaker 1: your morning routine? Man? What are you doing the morning
- 0:23Speaker 1: when you wake up? Um? It depends. You know. The
- 0:26Speaker 1: first thing is brush my teeth. You know what I'm saying? Good,
- 0:29Speaker 1: I mean everything on a spiritual level, Okay, Um, I
- 0:33Speaker 1: definitely take a beat, you know. UM, usually do some
- 0:36Speaker 1: breath work, you know what I'm saying, say some affirmations,
- 0:40Speaker 1: and I pretty much get my day started after that.
- 0:43Speaker 1: When did when did you start doing this? Was this
- 0:45Speaker 1: always your routine or this is something that you did
- 0:48Speaker 1: later in life? For yeah, it's something that I, um,
- 0:51Speaker 1: I found more productive later on in life, you know
- 0:56Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I felt like I've always been spiritual,
- 0:59Speaker 1: but um, just you know, adding the affirmations, it's just
- 1:03Speaker 1: kind of you know, um, and the breathwork has kind
- 1:06Speaker 1: of like definitely powered me up in a different way
- 1:09Speaker 1: than like drinking coffee or you know, doing anything outside
- 1:14Speaker 1: of myself. Yeah. I feel like at some point you
- 1:16Speaker 1: went on a real journey of healing because I remember
- 1:18Speaker 1: when you was on your physical routine with the boxing
- 1:21Speaker 1: and everything, and then it feels like at some point
- 1:23Speaker 1: you started realizing I got to get mentally and emotionally stronger. Yeah.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Also because of a lot of the things that you
- 1:30Speaker 1: know that were like happening on the outside, you know
- 1:33Speaker 1: what I'm saying, um, And that's why this book really
- 1:37Speaker 1: kind of came into fruition unbothered the power of choosing
- 1:40Speaker 1: joy because you know, I needed to do something more,
- 1:44Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I needed to turn it
- 1:45Speaker 1: inside and you know, really you know, figure out what
- 1:50Speaker 1: worked for me, you know what I'm saying. And the breathwork,
- 1:53Speaker 1: you know, the mantras, all of these things that I'm
- 1:55Speaker 1: sharing in the book definitely put me, you know, on
- 1:58Speaker 1: another level. Just as far as emotional intelligence, you know, um,
- 2:03Speaker 1: our culture you know really struggles with that man, you
- 2:06Speaker 1: know what i mean, emotional maturity and maturity just period,
- 2:11Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. As as I've grown, you know,
- 2:14Speaker 1: as a father, being a parent, you know what i mean,
- 2:17Speaker 1: Like life has definitely showed me that, you know, things
- 2:21Speaker 1: are not always happening to you, things are happening for you.
- 2:24Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You feel like this book
- 2:25Speaker 1: saved you, uh in a way to your practices? Do
- 2:29Speaker 1: you feel like it saved you with like you said,
- 2:30Speaker 1: everything going on from the industry. You feel like if
- 2:34Speaker 1: it wasn't for some of the things that you practice
- 2:35Speaker 1: in this book, that you would have wild out and
- 2:38Speaker 1: did so stupid and for sure, for sure because it's
- 2:41Speaker 1: so easy to do that. It's so easy to succumb
- 2:43Speaker 1: to your you know, emotions and to um not be thoughtful,
- 2:48Speaker 1: you know. And that's what really being unbothered is about,
- 2:51Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, A lot of people
- 2:53Speaker 1: get misconstrued like what I'm bothered is about because you know,
- 2:57Speaker 1: it's definitely an attitude, but you know, people don't understand
- 3:02Speaker 1: it's being unbothered is dealing with emotions. You know what
- 3:05Speaker 1: I'm saying. It is recognizing and realizing like, Okay, I
- 3:09Speaker 1: feel this way, you know what I mean? But why
- 3:11Speaker 1: and what's the best thing for me to do? Um? Oh,
- 3:14Speaker 1: when you get bothered, not staying there, that's something you learning,
- 3:17Speaker 1: you know, especially in CBT cognits to behavior therapy when
- 3:20Speaker 1: you are bothered, when you are triggered, not staying there
- 3:23Speaker 1: right right now. One thing you talked about that in
- 3:25Speaker 1: this book is fair, yeah, and how you can make
- 3:28Speaker 1: fear actually be productive. So for yourself, there's a lot
- 3:31Speaker 1: of things that you went through at a young age
- 3:33Speaker 1: that could have been scary for you or you were
- 3:35Speaker 1: scared to do. What are some tips you would get
- 3:37Speaker 1: people on how to make fear more productive for your life? Well, definitely,
- 3:44Speaker 1: you know, realizing and recognizing like why you feel it,
- 3:47Speaker 1: you know, facing it. It's it's actually more productive than
- 3:50Speaker 1: you know, staying stuck, because that's what fear does. Fear
- 3:53Speaker 1: kind of like paralyzes you from growing, you know. So
- 3:58Speaker 1: you know, fear early on definitely became my friend and
- 4:02Speaker 1: my journey because you know, stepping to the stage is
- 4:05Speaker 1: like nerve racking too. You know a lot of people
- 4:07Speaker 1: don't understand that. You know, when you get into the stage,
- 4:11Speaker 1: it's always something different every time. You know what I'm saying,
- 4:15Speaker 1: It might you know, be some family stuff. You know,
- 4:18Speaker 1: it might not just be that you know, this sound
- 4:21Speaker 1: man isn't working or this is going on, you know,
- 4:25Speaker 1: being able to be productive and know that you know,
- 4:29Speaker 1: at the end, all you can do is give your
- 4:30Speaker 1: best effort. You know. Fear has been definitely you know,
- 4:35Speaker 1: in the front seat with me my whole journey, and
- 4:37Speaker 1: I got a great relationship with it. I like having
- 4:40Speaker 1: these conversations with people like you could you've been around
- 4:42Speaker 1: for such a long time. When you're young and you
- 4:45Speaker 1: know you don't have the language that you have now,
- 4:47Speaker 1: they'll throw you out on the stage even if you
- 4:49Speaker 1: are dealing with something you gotta you gotta push through. Yep.
- 4:52Speaker 1: So how was that? How did you have to coo
- 4:54Speaker 1: put that back? Then? Did you even realize that you
- 4:56Speaker 1: were going through? Nah? Nah? Actually, because I was so young,
- 4:59Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like a lot of the time,
- 5:02Speaker 1: you know, um in the future, certain things would come
- 5:05Speaker 1: up and I would be like, why do I feel
- 5:07Speaker 1: that way? You know what I'm saying? And it was
- 5:08Speaker 1: because you know, I was in the moment, but but
- 5:12Speaker 1: but not really a present, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:16Speaker 1: So so yeah, so what was what? What would you
- 5:19Speaker 1: say the reason you wrote this book? I would say
- 5:23Speaker 1: the main the core reason is not only to share
- 5:27Speaker 1: my stories, but you know, like the late great Nipsey
- 5:30Speaker 1: Hustles say, you know, UM, to inspire is the highest
- 5:34Speaker 1: human act. So you know, I'm just really hoping that,
- 5:38Speaker 1: you know, I can be a voice you know for
- 5:42Speaker 1: you know, all the people that's coming up and that
- 5:44Speaker 1: needed this infort I needed this information, you know what
- 5:46Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, I'm just hoping it inspires the world.
- 5:50Speaker 1: You've been keeping a lot of shit in the tuck though, Maria.
- 5:52Speaker 1: I feel like you feel like you came with the
- 5:54Speaker 1: book then the first of the Doctor. Yeah, and it
- 5:56Speaker 1: was like Mario's writing a book. I'm like, damn, he
- 5:58Speaker 1: was holding all that in the chamberhood. Yeah, got an
- 6:00Speaker 1: album too, in the cut, you know what I mean,
- 6:02Speaker 1: wrote a TV show, you know what I mean, doing
- 6:05Speaker 1: a movie. So yeah, I just buckled down and really
- 6:07Speaker 1: start focusing on what I feel like, you know, these
- 6:10Speaker 1: different verticals, like what I want to contribute at this
- 6:13Speaker 1: point in time, you know, because it's hard to stay
- 6:15Speaker 1: mot motivated in this game. You know, they're always changing
- 6:18Speaker 1: the goal posts, you know, and a lot of people
- 6:20Speaker 1: are not you know, in tune all the time. You know,
- 6:24Speaker 1: they're like, well what are you doing? Or you know,
- 6:25Speaker 1: and it's like yo, you know, I'm one of the
- 6:28Speaker 1: few child prodigies that came up in the game. So
- 6:31Speaker 1: work for me is this, you know what I'm saying,
- 6:33Speaker 1: This is my life. This is what I've contribute the
- 6:36Speaker 1: most energy too. So you know, I'm always I'm always
- 6:39Speaker 1: working on something. It made you not respond or right,
- 6:41Speaker 1: because you've been going through a lot the last ten years,
- 6:44Speaker 1: everything and every I mean ninety percent of people are
- 6:48Speaker 1: gonna respond somehow someway. Yeah, whether it's personal, whether it's relationship,
- 6:53Speaker 1: whether it's family, whether it's your group, whether it's your label,
- 6:57Speaker 1: whatever it is, you don't respond right? Why I think that? Um,
- 7:04Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm a I am a methodical person.
- 7:06Speaker 1: I am a thoughtful person. So a lot of the time,
- 7:10Speaker 1: you know, if I am going to respond, I want
- 7:13Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, I get what I
- 7:15Speaker 1: need from it, you know what I mean? Because rarely
- 7:18Speaker 1: when we react into life that we actually get what
- 7:20Speaker 1: we want, you know what I mean. So for me,
- 7:23Speaker 1: I've always just been like, okay, you know, um, at
- 7:26Speaker 1: those moments, you know, those ups and downs of my career,
- 7:29Speaker 1: I've always just been like, I'm gonna do what's best
- 7:32Speaker 1: for me, you know, Um, you check a box like
- 7:34Speaker 1: I remember he said that. She said, I definitely, I
- 7:38Speaker 1: definitely have a mental list. Nah, No, I don't. I
- 7:45Speaker 1: don't think because I'm sure enough to realize that a
- 7:48Speaker 1: lot of people's perspectives and just position in life are
- 7:53Speaker 1: you know, temporary, you know what I'm saying, Because things change,
- 7:56Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I try my best
- 7:58Speaker 1: to not take things personal. You feel like you slipped
- 8:01Speaker 1: a little with all these things that have been happening,
- 8:02Speaker 1: and he has to be like, let me go back
- 8:03Speaker 1: into my arm. No, I think. No. I think that
- 8:06Speaker 1: it's important to stand up for yourself too, you know
- 8:09Speaker 1: what I mean. I think people get confused when you know,
- 8:11Speaker 1: people speak up, that it's like, oh me not or
- 8:15Speaker 1: me being bothered instead of being unbothered. But I think
- 8:17Speaker 1: that it's important to also stand up for yourself and
- 8:20Speaker 1: speak up when you feel that, you know what I mean.
- 8:23Speaker 1: I think that's important as a man, you know what
- 8:24Speaker 1: I'm saying, to really speak up for yourself on your journey.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Otherwise you know, um, you know, things just don't happen.
- 8:32Speaker 1: But okay, so what about Rasby saying he was triggered
- 8:34Speaker 1: by certain things in the documentary did you feel some
- 8:38Speaker 1: type of or more It's like, Okay, this was a
- 8:40Speaker 1: serious issue you know for him, I think, um, for
- 8:44Speaker 1: raz that you know, UM, he's a really it's interesting,
- 8:51Speaker 1: you know, UM because you know, he obviously is intelligent
- 8:56Speaker 1: enough to see an opportunity to speak about things, you know, um,
- 9:04Speaker 1: and use it to his advantage, you know. Um. And
- 9:08Speaker 1: what do I mean by that? You know, I just
- 9:10Speaker 1: mean that, you know, I've never I mean, I know Rasby,
- 9:14Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I've never heard him
- 9:15Speaker 1: say he's been triggered, you know what I mean. But
- 9:17Speaker 1: I also, you know, have you know, along with my team,
- 9:21Speaker 1: especially on tour, you know, have given him the opportunity
- 9:25Speaker 1: to better his process, and you know he hasn't taken
- 9:30Speaker 1: those opportunities, you know. And the thing that's I think
- 9:34Speaker 1: that's tough for me and a lot of people to
- 9:36Speaker 1: understand it is, you know, as you know, a type
- 9:40Speaker 1: of brother, you know, you have to hold your brother accountable,
- 9:44Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when he said that
- 9:46Speaker 1: he was triggered, I think that that is something that
- 9:49Speaker 1: he could have felt. But you know, if people watch
- 9:52Speaker 1: actually watch the docu, you know I was there supporting him,
- 9:57Speaker 1: you know, although that small clip was out there. You know,
- 10:00Speaker 1: me and my team, we were out there supporting him,
- 10:02Speaker 1: asking them what he needed, you know, um, trying to
- 10:05Speaker 1: figure out, you know, our best to help him face
- 10:10Speaker 1: you know, these very traumatic things that he's been through.
- 10:13Speaker 1: You know. So I just thought it was interesting, you know,
- 10:16Speaker 1: that he decided to see the clip you know, in
- 10:20Speaker 1: which you know, he uh you know, wrote off on
- 10:24Speaker 1: to say that he was being triggered. I thought, I
- 10:27Speaker 1: just thought it was interesting because he knows that, you know,
- 10:30Speaker 1: I've been for me. He had to sign off on
- 10:32Speaker 1: his part in the documentary. Yes, I'm saying, like, you know,
- 10:36Speaker 1: just was interesting. It's just like, yo, but you know,
- 10:39Speaker 1: we were on tour and we were supporting you. We
- 10:40Speaker 1: told you ask and how did that work? But you
- 10:42Speaker 1: know how healing is though. Healing is like it's not
- 10:44Speaker 1: a destinations. Something may not bother you on Monday, but
- 10:49Speaker 1: that's the same thing might trigger you onto Yeah, and
- 10:52Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. I agree, you know, I just
- 10:55Speaker 1: think that it's it's interesting in the timing, you know
- 10:57Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because that clip had been out there
- 11:00Speaker 1: for a couple of days and then it was just
- 11:02Speaker 1: like Okay, but are you getting help? Bro? Yeah? Are
- 11:06Speaker 1: you taking the steps? Are you taking the steps you
- 11:09Speaker 1: know to to not always express you know, your emotion
- 11:13Speaker 1: student Internet, like, are you doing the work now? Are
- 11:16Speaker 1: you doing the work? That's not what I see? That's
- 11:19Speaker 1: not what I see? And how is it with you know,
- 11:22Speaker 1: because you guys were brothers growing up, Like, yeah, you
- 11:24Speaker 1: guys were everywhere together. You guys grew up with each other.
- 11:27Speaker 1: So how is it that you guys really don't mesh
- 11:30Speaker 1: and speak and communicating When they do it's usually I
- 11:35Speaker 1: haven't heard you say really much bad about them, anything
- 11:37Speaker 1: bad about them, but them talking bad about you? So
- 11:39Speaker 1: how does that work? Because you all are still on
- 11:41Speaker 1: tour a world? Yeah, um, yeah, that's that's a that's
- 11:46Speaker 1: a that's a challenging question just because you know, there
- 11:52Speaker 1: were a lot of people, you know, like, let's let's
- 11:54Speaker 1: just take the concept of brotherhood, right, you know what
- 11:57Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has a different version of that, you know, fortunately,
- 12:01Speaker 1: because some people don't actually have siblings, you know what
- 12:04Speaker 1: I mean, it means different things to different people. So
- 12:07Speaker 1: I would say, in one aspect through our journey, you know,
- 12:10Speaker 1: we were put together to be brothers, you know, what
- 12:14Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I don't think in essence we were
- 12:18Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think that, you know,
- 12:20Speaker 1: there were a lot of people, you know, that made
- 12:24Speaker 1: sure that we connected and then disconnected, you know what
- 12:28Speaker 1: I mean. You know, certain people on our journey, it's
- 12:33Speaker 1: almost like we were made to be brothers, to be
- 12:35Speaker 1: secret enemies, you know what I mean. And there's only
- 12:39Speaker 1: certain stories that could kind of you know embody like
- 12:43Speaker 1: what that means, you know, because I believe in the
- 12:46Speaker 1: real brotherhood, jealousy doesn't exist. You know. You might you
- 12:49Speaker 1: might feel like you might feel like, Okay, well dang,
- 12:52Speaker 1: look at my bro he going up. I want to
- 12:54Speaker 1: be inspired, but it never makes you vindictive. It never
- 12:58Speaker 1: makes you jealous. It never makes you go past a
- 13:00Speaker 1: certain point, you know. And with our journey, you know,
- 13:05Speaker 1: things have went way past go you know what I'm saying. So,
- 13:09Speaker 1: you know, I would say in the aspect of our journey,
- 13:12Speaker 1: you know, we're we have a brotherhood, but in reality,
- 13:16Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I wouldn't say that they
- 13:20Speaker 1: identify as what I consider my brother, like my brother Ryan,
- 13:25Speaker 1: you know, like our journey, the things that we've shown
- 13:28Speaker 1: each other, you know, the challenging times we have. The
- 13:31Speaker 1: way we got through that, you know, that's how you're
- 13:34Speaker 1: able to really truly identify who someone is to you
- 13:37Speaker 1: in your life, you know what I mean. Somebody that
- 13:38Speaker 1: loves you. You know, they don't do certain things. You know,
- 13:43Speaker 1: they don't say certain things. You know what I'm saying.
- 13:45Speaker 1: So you know, if we're just really looking at it,
- 13:48Speaker 1: you know what I mean as far as what it is,
- 13:51Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If it acts like a duck,
- 13:52Speaker 1: if it talked like a duck, it's a duck. You
- 13:56Speaker 1: talk about forgiveness in the book too, though, yes, so
- 13:58Speaker 1: do you believe in that? I know you also say
- 14:00Speaker 1: there was like an elder person who really was manipulative. Yeah,
- 14:04Speaker 1: and that's what kind of caused the strain and the relationship.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Do you think that there's a way to discuss things
- 14:11Speaker 1: behind the scenes off camera and come to some healing
- 14:14Speaker 1: because you did, you know, sit down with jay Bug
- 14:16Speaker 1: and give them a chance. You talk about that in
- 14:18Speaker 1: the book as well, and you know, decide to reconnect
- 14:21Speaker 1: and go on tour. But can you see something like
- 14:24Speaker 1: that happening or do you feel like some things, like
- 14:26Speaker 1: you said, fuck it, I can't control it. Yeah, I
- 14:28Speaker 1: think that there's definitely a lot of you know, healing,
- 14:32Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that could go on, and
- 14:35Speaker 1: that would be awesome, you know what I'm saying. But
- 14:37Speaker 1: I will also say that, like, you know, we're all
- 14:39Speaker 1: definitely on different levels. But as far as forgiveness goes
- 14:44Speaker 1: in the aspect of the book, the reason why forgiveness
- 14:47Speaker 1: is so important because as you know, it's for you too,
- 14:51Speaker 1: you know, And it doesn't mean that you have to,
- 14:54Speaker 1: you know, decide now because I forgive you that. You know,
- 14:58Speaker 1: we're all of a sudden going to do what we
- 15:00Speaker 1: was doing, you know what I'm saying. You know, it's
- 15:02Speaker 1: a process, you know. And I would say for me,
- 15:06Speaker 1: you know, um, it's been a it's been a long journey.
- 15:09Speaker 1: It's been such a process for me to be able
- 15:12Speaker 1: to really understand how certain things in certain people's lives
- 15:16Speaker 1: and even in their journeys that you can't even speak about.
- 15:19Speaker 1: It's not even your right, you know, to be like, yeah, well,
- 15:23Speaker 1: y'all don't really know what happened, because I do, and
- 15:26Speaker 1: I'm just choosing to be respectful to you know, allow
- 15:30Speaker 1: someone to really speak about their journey you know what
- 15:34Speaker 1: I mean. And that's so important, you know what I'm saying,
- 15:37Speaker 1: to not step on people's toes and for me, you know,
- 15:40Speaker 1: I've forgiven them, you know what I'm saying, You forgive them,
- 15:43Speaker 1: but not necessarily forget or not necessarily want to be
- 15:47Speaker 1: in you know, a brotherhood or a relationship or anything
- 15:50Speaker 1: with them ever. Again, they're like, I can forgive you,
- 15:52Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah with you, well, it's like I can
- 15:54Speaker 1: forgive you, you know, but at this point in time,
- 15:58Speaker 1: you know it, you know our relationship, you know, it
- 16:02Speaker 1: doesn't serve you know where I need to be and
- 16:07Speaker 1: the energy that I must keep myself in in order
- 16:09Speaker 1: to keep my own peace, you know. Um. And that's
- 16:13Speaker 1: the most interesting thing about people you love. You know
- 16:15Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You even got to take breaks from them,
- 16:18Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, if you want to,
- 16:22Speaker 1: you know, put it plainly, then I would say, do
- 16:25Speaker 1: we ever know a person's whole story? Though? Because you
- 16:27Speaker 1: said that, you know, you know, you said you wouldn't
- 16:30Speaker 1: speak on certain things because you I guess know, but
- 16:34Speaker 1: you ever really truly know everything that a person though?
- 16:39Speaker 1: I think that, Um, I think I think yes and
- 16:43Speaker 1: no you know, Um, I think the people closest you know,
- 16:47Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, even though it is another perspective,
- 16:50Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I think, yeah, you know
- 16:52Speaker 1: what I mean, there's certain people like I could speak
- 16:55Speaker 1: about my kids in a certain type of way I'm saying.
- 16:58Speaker 1: So I think there's people that you know. But for
- 17:00Speaker 1: the most part, you know, um, you can surmise what's
- 17:04Speaker 1: going on, and you can definitely see the influences and
- 17:08Speaker 1: you can see you know, who takes you know, more
- 17:11Speaker 1: percentage of the influence, you know, through the actions. So yeah,
- 17:16Speaker 1: I want I wanted to ask, and you know, we
- 17:17Speaker 1: haven't seen you a long time, so zil you no
- 17:19Speaker 1: more questions? When when one of the members of the
- 17:22Speaker 1: group was talking to your baby's mother, your children's mother. Yeah, Abril, yeah,
- 17:29Speaker 1: Abril Yeah, how did that make you feel? Because you know,
- 17:32Speaker 1: it's it's when you think about certain things, it's a
- 17:34Speaker 1: man like, you know, punch me in my face, keep
- 17:36Speaker 1: my car, you know, pop my tires, call me a
- 17:39Speaker 1: bitch ass nigga, right, but certain things you just don't do.
- 17:43Speaker 1: So at that point, how did you feel and did
- 17:45Speaker 1: you know? Um, yeah, I knew you know I heard,
- 17:50Speaker 1: and you know, it really turned up my own bother
- 17:54Speaker 1: because he turned from no I did, No, I didn't
- 17:59Speaker 1: a whole nother, you know what I'm saying, because I
- 18:02Speaker 1: knew that what he was doing was on purpose, you know,
- 18:06Speaker 1: And it didn't really prove anything, you know what I'm saying.
- 18:09Speaker 1: It didn't really prove anything because you know, at the
- 18:12Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, you have to recognize
- 18:15Speaker 1: that people make their own choices, and most of the
- 18:18Speaker 1: time it don't even have nothing to do with you,
- 18:20Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he made that choice,
- 18:24Speaker 1: and I don't think it was a smart choice. What
- 18:28Speaker 1: about her? Did you ever feel like, why why are
- 18:30Speaker 1: you doing this? Yeah? Man, yeah, you know I asked
- 18:33Speaker 1: that question, you know many times, you know, because I
- 18:37Speaker 1: can't put you know, for the sake you know understand,
- 18:41Speaker 1: But but you know, from from her perspective, you know,
- 18:45Speaker 1: someone that's hurt, you know what I'm saying. You know,
- 18:48Speaker 1: hurt people, hurt people, you know what I mean, And
- 18:50Speaker 1: some people just take it to another level, you know
- 18:52Speaker 1: what I mean. And she definitely took it to a
- 18:55Speaker 1: whole another level. And I remember was having that conversation
- 18:58Speaker 1: here and I said, well, I don't know if Marion
- 19:02Speaker 1: and uh fiars are close, they might not be close,
- 19:05Speaker 1: but so in his mind that might not be a violation.
- 19:07Speaker 1: But for her, clearly y'all had a situal relationship y'all. Yeah,
- 19:13Speaker 1: I mean anybody that's around me, you know what I mean,
- 19:16Speaker 1: anybody that I invite into my space. You know what
- 19:18Speaker 1: I mean. I'm obviously comfortable with them, you know what
- 19:21Speaker 1: I mean. So you know, um to say that we
- 19:25Speaker 1: ain't close, you know what I'm saying. You know, because
- 19:28Speaker 1: this was like early on, you know, early on, you know,
- 19:31Speaker 1: when I you know, invited And this is probably the
- 19:34Speaker 1: last time I'll speak about this, you know what I'm saying. Exercise, Yeah,
- 19:42Speaker 1: I speak about this about it. Yeah, yeah, you know
- 19:46Speaker 1: what I mean. But um, you know, uh, when me
- 19:49Speaker 1: and FIDS linked back up, you know, it was it
- 19:55Speaker 1: was like definitely some synergy, you know what I'm saying.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Like he was definitely in a different you know, personality,
- 20:01Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, I would say
- 20:03Speaker 1: that he was more like humble, you know, he needed
- 20:06Speaker 1: he needed something, you know what I'm saying. So you
- 20:08Speaker 1: know when we was hanging out, you know, that's what
- 20:11Speaker 1: the vibe was, you know what I mean, We were
- 20:12Speaker 1: going on bike rides. We was really essentially getting back
- 20:16Speaker 1: to a new level you know, of brotherhood, you know
- 20:19Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And there was times that he came over,
- 20:22Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and he was dealing with
- 20:23Speaker 1: other girls, and he came over while me and April
- 20:26Speaker 1: were in a relationship, you know what I'm saying, His
- 20:28Speaker 1: invitation you know, to be on love and hip like
- 20:31Speaker 1: all of that, you know what i mean. So that's
- 20:32Speaker 1: why I said it turned up mind father, because I
- 20:36Speaker 1: knew that it was intentional, you know what I mean.
- 20:37Speaker 1: And it was just like why are you doing that? Though? Bro?
- 20:40Speaker 1: Like what do you get from this? You know what
- 20:42Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like what you you think you won a
- 20:45Speaker 1: contest or something, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
- 20:48Speaker 1: what you did was destroy something? You know that, you know,
- 20:55Speaker 1: one apology, you know what I mean, It's not enough,
- 20:58Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you still decided to
- 21:01Speaker 1: go on tour with them? Yeah, what was that decision? Like?
- 21:04Speaker 1: Because what most people would be like, So what was that?
- 21:09Speaker 1: Because you had to forgive to at least allow them
- 21:11Speaker 1: to allow them to make money, right, Yeah, so what
- 21:16Speaker 1: what the most important thing to me? You know, um,
- 21:20Speaker 1: outside my own experience, you know, for myself. You know,
- 21:25Speaker 1: once I had kids, you know what I mean, that
- 21:27Speaker 1: changed everything for me, you know, and that changed everything
- 21:30Speaker 1: for me just as far as you know, my consideration
- 21:34Speaker 1: and you know, them not asking to be here and
- 21:38Speaker 1: you know what it means to really be a father,
- 21:41Speaker 1: you know what I mean to be a father, you
- 21:42Speaker 1: have to consider those things, you know what I'm saying.
- 21:44Speaker 1: So you know, I had to ask myself, was my
- 21:47Speaker 1: hate or my disdain for my experience, you know, more
- 21:53Speaker 1: important than you know the connections and the impact that
- 21:59Speaker 1: I've had on music, you know, um, during my time
- 22:03Speaker 1: in the group, and when I thought about how impactful
- 22:07Speaker 1: that would be to my kids, you know, that was
- 22:11Speaker 1: That was pretty much how I decided, you know what
- 22:13Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I was just like, you know, whatever
- 22:17Speaker 1: they did, you know what I mean, whatever people did, like,
- 22:20Speaker 1: it can't compare to that, you know what I'm saying.
- 22:22Speaker 1: So that was that was my That was my deciding factory. Yeah. No,
- 22:29Speaker 1: my mom's was just like I mean, everybody in support,
- 22:33Speaker 1: you know, my family, um, and I have to definitely
- 22:36Speaker 1: you know, thank Michelle. You know what I mean, Because
- 22:38Speaker 1: Michelle was really the real reason why I decided to
- 22:42Speaker 1: go on tour, because she helped me understand that. You know,
- 22:47Speaker 1: because for so long you know what I mean, I, um,
- 22:51Speaker 1: you know, have been on her right there. She's my
- 22:58Speaker 1: business partner. She is my CEO of my company OWW
- 23:02Speaker 1: or Marion Worldwide. So um, you know, she really helped
- 23:07Speaker 1: me see the value in Um, you know why it
- 23:12Speaker 1: was important to do it as well, because you know
- 23:14Speaker 1: what I'm saying, for the longest I've been you know,
- 23:19Speaker 1: you know, striving to mature from O Marion from B
- 23:23Speaker 1: two K you know what I mean. And you know
- 23:26Speaker 1: so many other artists has had an opportunity to do that.
- 23:29Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Beyonce, you know, justin timber Lake,
- 23:32Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, yeah, you know what
- 23:35Speaker 1: I mean. I've always been pulled back, you know what
- 23:39Speaker 1: I mean, And I couldn't figure figure that out, you
- 23:42Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, I feel like you did, Rick.
- 23:45Speaker 1: I feel like you do have your own identity. I
- 23:49Speaker 1: do have my own identity. But you know, as far
- 23:52Speaker 1: as the connectivity, you know, to the imprint in which
- 23:56Speaker 1: how B two K separated. It was undone, you know
- 23:59Speaker 1: what I'm And it wasn't It was undone, not from
- 24:02Speaker 1: us the group. It was undone in our experience, you know,
- 24:05Speaker 1: And that's why it came back around. So that's what
- 24:08Speaker 1: I mean. I don't mean not having an identity outside
- 24:10Speaker 1: of that, because I've obviously been successful as a solo artist,
- 24:14Speaker 1: you know, on my own with number one albums, et cetera,
- 24:16Speaker 1: et cetera, you know what I'm saying. So that's not
- 24:18Speaker 1: what I mean. I just mean, you know, being supported
- 24:22Speaker 1: by you know, everyone, to never have to revisit that
- 24:26Speaker 1: and it being just something that was a treat which
- 24:29Speaker 1: ended up being, you know what I'm saying, which ended
- 24:31Speaker 1: up still being. But because of my experience, I felt
- 24:34Speaker 1: definitely not good about it, you know what I'm saying.
- 24:37Speaker 1: So it had to come back around in order for
- 24:40Speaker 1: me to deal with it again, and for sure on
- 24:44Speaker 1: so many levels, Like that's what I'm saying, Like I
- 24:46Speaker 1: would never think that I would become an author, you
- 24:49Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I spent a year and
- 24:51Speaker 1: a half, you know what I'm saying, writing and asking
- 24:54Speaker 1: myself question after question. You know what I'm saying, Um,
- 24:59Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, this is a purposeful journey, you
- 25:01Speaker 1: know what i mean. And you reflected on your relationship
- 25:04Speaker 1: with your father. Yeah as well. He was incarcerated when
- 25:07Speaker 1: you were younger, and you guys did end up reconnecting.
- 25:09Speaker 1: How do you think that's molded you into who you are?
- 25:13Speaker 1: It's molded me in a very unique way, you know
- 25:16Speaker 1: what i mean. You always hear about people not having
- 25:19Speaker 1: their fathers and having um, you know, that male influence.
- 25:24Speaker 1: But it turned into so many great things for me,
- 25:26Speaker 1: you know, like me being the thing that I wanted
- 25:29Speaker 1: the most, you know what I'm saying. And then fast
- 25:31Speaker 1: forward us having a relationship now, you know what I mean.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Like we took our first trip last year. We went
- 25:37Speaker 1: to dr you know what I'm saying, that we just
- 25:39Speaker 1: chilled and it's like, you know, it's so dope, you know,
- 25:42Speaker 1: to be able to see where I come from and
- 25:45Speaker 1: to realize, you know, some of my courts and you know,
- 25:49Speaker 1: perspectives as a person, you know what I'm saying. And
- 25:52Speaker 1: it's dope to get that ladder on in life, you
- 25:54Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Because I didn't have really a
- 25:56Speaker 1: lot of o Jeza you know men in the game.
- 25:59Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, A lot of people that
- 26:00Speaker 1: I look up to really actually give me information that
- 26:04Speaker 1: was useful, you know what I'm saying. So essentially I
- 26:07Speaker 1: had to be my own og, you know what I'm saying.
- 26:09Speaker 1: So I look at some of the ogs deffinitely because
- 26:12Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying, because I feel
- 26:14Speaker 1: like I'm a young og and I didn't really have
- 26:16Speaker 1: no help like that. I'm glad so many brothers are
- 26:19Speaker 1: having that conversation because the first time I ever had
- 26:20Speaker 1: a breakthrough in therapy, first time I ever cried in therapy,
- 26:22Speaker 1: was discussing it's my daddy issues, you know what I mean,
- 26:26Speaker 1: because we want that relationship with our fathers so bad
- 26:29Speaker 1: and some of us don't have it. You know, then
- 26:31Speaker 1: you get older, you got your own kids, and you
- 26:33Speaker 1: kind of just winging it because nobody ever showed you
- 26:35Speaker 1: I'd really be a good father exactly exactly, and that
- 26:41Speaker 1: ladder on in life, man, it was like it was
- 26:43Speaker 1: like a treat. You know what I'm saying. I'm like,
- 26:45Speaker 1: I'm like so happy that I go get the kigging
- 26:47Speaker 1: with my dad and you know what I'm saying, he flied.
- 26:49Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like he liked to do
- 26:51Speaker 1: things a certain type of way. And I'm like, oh, okay,
- 26:54Speaker 1: you see you. Yeah yeah, And it's so dope when
- 26:57Speaker 1: I see my son, because that's that's what I see,
- 27:00Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And do you know he
- 27:01Speaker 1: just he just got a phone and now he like
- 27:04Speaker 1: texts me things that he likes. And I'm just like,
- 27:07Speaker 1: what He's eight Yeah, shout out to Mega. He's probably
- 27:11Speaker 1: gonna watch this one day. So let's talk about the
- 27:15Speaker 1: vine timing because I find it so interesting that there
- 27:18Speaker 1: was the verses right, probably didn't go to where you
- 27:21Speaker 1: wanted it to go back fully, for sure, you seem
- 27:25Speaker 1: like you're reacted with work. You reacted with the doctor,
- 27:27Speaker 1: reacted with the book, the show. How did that come about?
- 27:30Speaker 1: Because clearly that's the vine time, Yo, that's facts, that's facts. Um,
- 27:35Speaker 1: I've just been preparing. I've just been preparing, and like
- 27:38Speaker 1: you said, you know, the vine timing, and even though um,
- 27:42Speaker 1: you know versus didn't go you know, it still was,
- 27:45Speaker 1: you know, wildly successful, the most successful one, you know,
- 27:48Speaker 1: so to be able to show up in the journey
- 27:51Speaker 1: and be able to be like, you know what, damn,
- 27:53Speaker 1: this might not have been a way that I wanted
- 27:55Speaker 1: things to go, but oh wait a minute, watch this
- 27:57Speaker 1: move right here. So I'm really highly thankful for you know,
- 28:01Speaker 1: all the energies. You know what I'm saying. Rest in peace.
- 28:04Speaker 1: My my analogy transitioned earlier this year, you know what
- 28:07Speaker 1: I mean. So I definitely feel like the ancestors on
- 28:09Speaker 1: the other side is moving certain things in the universe
- 28:12Speaker 1: for me. Um and I'm just excited, man. Feel when
- 28:16Speaker 1: people were questioning your talent, Yeah, I was gonna say,
- 28:17Speaker 1: what went wrong that night? What would you have changed? Well,
- 28:21Speaker 1: you know, it was a lot of things that went
- 28:22Speaker 1: wrong that night, first being um, not not have a
- 28:25Speaker 1: sound check and then also another report, why didn't you
- 28:28Speaker 1: do a sound check? There was no time they were
- 28:31Speaker 1: It was so underwhelming. They were not prepared, you know
- 28:35Speaker 1: for what I expected to be kind of you know,
- 28:41Speaker 1: a night in R and B that just kind of
- 28:43Speaker 1: turned the sexy up on the planet again, you know
- 28:45Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, really, let's talk about the women,
- 28:49Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it became kind of
- 28:50Speaker 1: hip hop really really fast, you know what I'm saying.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Early on, it was like that was the set of
- 28:55Speaker 1: the energy, you know what I'm saying. And um, it
- 28:59Speaker 1: was like from that from the rip, it was like
- 29:01Speaker 1: it was on for the rest of the night, you
- 29:03Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but again, you know what
- 29:06Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't change anything, you know what I mean. Um,
- 29:10Speaker 1: what was your question again? How do you people people
- 29:11Speaker 1: questioning your Yeah, I think that that's the mark of
- 29:13Speaker 1: a legend, you know what I'm saying. I remember, I remember,
- 29:18Speaker 1: you know, hearing people say Michael, Michael Jackson couldn't seen
- 29:21Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, and you know, when
- 29:25Speaker 1: when you're when you have been doing something for so long,
- 29:29Speaker 1: you know, you can definitely have an off night, you
- 29:32Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, but that is not the
- 29:34Speaker 1: tell tale of you know, of a twenty two year career,
- 29:38Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I feel like, you know,
- 29:40Speaker 1: that's another strike, you know what I'm saying, Like it
- 29:45Speaker 1: felt like people took the opportunity to say things to
- 29:47Speaker 1: you that they've always wanted to. It definitely felt like, Yeah,
- 29:52Speaker 1: that was crazy. It was. It was a lot of
- 29:54Speaker 1: energy for me, you know, but it's all good. Boy,
- 29:57Speaker 1: had to bother you a little bit. You are well.
- 30:03Speaker 1: Let me say it definitely may challenge me unlike I've
- 30:08Speaker 1: been challenging such a long time to level up, because
- 30:12Speaker 1: you know, I'm one of those people that you know,
- 30:16Speaker 1: I don't really move for much, you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 30:19Speaker 1: you know, because I study and I practice and I
- 30:23Speaker 1: work on my craft so much, you know what I mean.
- 30:26Speaker 1: So I'm unmoved. But one thing that can't move me.
- 30:29Speaker 1: One thing that has moved me, you know, was the
- 30:31Speaker 1: will to just be better. And I think that that's
- 30:34Speaker 1: something different in my generation than like you know, Stevie
- 30:38Speaker 1: Wonder and Marvin Is. Like when when I got to
- 30:41Speaker 1: enjoy their art, they were already at their highest level,
- 30:44Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But people that's born in
- 30:47Speaker 1: the eighties, you know, eighty four Lebron, myself, certain people
- 30:51Speaker 1: that's born in that time, it's like we're able to
- 30:53Speaker 1: show you like we're getting better, you know what I'm saying.
- 30:57Speaker 1: And I think that that's so very interesting in my time,
- 31:01Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because I plan on performing
- 31:05Speaker 1: and doing what I love for the rest of my life,
- 31:07Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and all capacities, you know
- 31:10Speaker 1: what I'm saying, as an entertainment mogul, you know what
- 31:14Speaker 1: I mean, A director, a writer, a producer, all of
- 31:17Speaker 1: these you know, I plan on doing this for life.
- 31:19Speaker 1: So I believe that. I mean, you're five acts of joy.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Three of them have to do with that singing, writing,
- 31:25Speaker 1: and piano. Yeah. Yeah, that's all about entertainment and performing.
- 31:29Speaker 1: And so this is something you would do no matter what. Yeah,
- 31:32Speaker 1: because it's the real expression of exuberance. And it's like,
- 31:36Speaker 1: if you live in that's really what you want to display,
- 31:39Speaker 1: you know what i mean, Like when you get that
- 31:40Speaker 1: big check, it's like you want to dance and you
- 31:43Speaker 1: want to be happy. You know what I'm saying. When
- 31:44Speaker 1: something good goes well, it shows up in your body.
- 31:48Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know, for me,
- 31:52Speaker 1: that's how I want to live, you know what I mean,
- 31:54Speaker 1: And I want to be the epitome I will be,
- 31:57Speaker 1: you know, the epitome of that you know expression joy,
- 31:59Speaker 1: because it's really it really makes this experience worth living,
- 32:03Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because all of the other things,
- 32:06Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, all of the other you know,
- 32:09Speaker 1: aspects of life, you know what I mean, that are
- 32:12Speaker 1: necessary too. You know what I'm saying, in order to
- 32:13Speaker 1: create a balanced experience, but you know it doesn't always
- 32:17Speaker 1: feel good, you know what I'm saying. So you got
- 32:19Speaker 1: the chapter call Purpose. What do you think your main
- 32:22Speaker 1: life purpose is? Because sometimes I wonder is it anything
- 32:25Speaker 1: to do with entertainment? I feel like purpose is bigger
- 32:28Speaker 1: than that in some ways. Yeah, I would agree, Um, yeah,
- 32:33Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, you know, my purpose on
- 32:37Speaker 1: this planet is to remind people that joy is a choice.
- 32:41Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know, through this experience,
- 32:45Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You'll have You're running into
- 32:47Speaker 1: some things, you know what I'm saying, that can make
- 32:51Speaker 1: or break your experience. You know what I mean. And
- 32:53Speaker 1: it's really up to you, you know what I'm saying
- 32:55Speaker 1: at the end of the day, to be able to
- 32:58Speaker 1: choose happiness, you know what I'm saying. Period. I was
- 33:01Speaker 1: gonna ask what's your relationship with Rick Ross? Because I
- 33:04Speaker 1: know that you guys as far as business is concerned, Yeah,
- 33:07Speaker 1: decided to dissolve it. And I heard him, you know,
- 33:10Speaker 1: throw a couple of shots in a couple of souls, right,
- 33:12Speaker 1: So what is your relationship and why why did you
- 33:14Speaker 1: decide to leave or whatever it maybe well, you know,
- 33:18Speaker 1: I was under the impression, you know, at the time
- 33:24Speaker 1: of you know, may Back music and inception. You know
- 33:28Speaker 1: what it is that I contributed to his business, you
- 33:31Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I feel like on that
- 33:33Speaker 1: level he respects me, and you know he has to
- 33:35Speaker 1: respect me, so you know, um, you know that's cool,
- 33:40Speaker 1: you know, but as far as personally, you know, man,
- 33:43Speaker 1: it's all good. Man Rosehy is one of the funniest
- 33:46Speaker 1: person's like to come across, you know what I'm saying.
- 33:48Speaker 1: So you know, if I see him, salute, you know
- 33:51Speaker 1: what I mean. But you know, he showed me. He
- 33:54Speaker 1: showed me some things, you know what I'm saying. So
- 33:56Speaker 1: because he showed me things, you know, even though you know, um,
- 34:01Speaker 1: he could have helped more, you know what I'm saying.
- 34:02Speaker 1: He could have you know, he could have you know,
- 34:07Speaker 1: lend more of a hand than you know what he
- 34:12Speaker 1: was maybe you know, portrayed to you know, be but um, yeah,
- 34:20Speaker 1: I appreciate the experience. Man. I had so much fun
- 34:22Speaker 1: over in may Back music and making that music at
- 34:25Speaker 1: that time, and you know, being able to create an
- 34:27Speaker 1: alias may Back. Oh, to feel a part of something
- 34:30Speaker 1: that was like, truly outside of my culture and outside
- 34:33Speaker 1: of myself. How hands on was he when he because
- 34:35Speaker 1: you know Ross has an their right you know, listening
- 34:37Speaker 1: to Ross's albums and melodically they sound amazing. Yeah, how
- 34:40Speaker 1: hands on was he with your projects? If he was? Yeah, no, man,
- 34:43Speaker 1: Rose shows up. You know what I'm saying. Rose was there,
- 34:47Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he definitely like all right,
- 34:50Speaker 1: this is what you want to do? Oh boom do it?
- 34:52Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When when it was that time?
- 34:54Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But when it was that
- 34:57Speaker 1: when it wasn't that time, It wasn't that time. You
- 34:59Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was trying for some other things?
- 35:01Speaker 1: Could you have done more of you think for you?
- 35:03Speaker 1: I just I was I would just say, you know,
- 35:06Speaker 1: one of one of the one of the tales tales
- 35:10Speaker 1: for me. You know what I'm saying. Was the last
- 35:11Speaker 1: conversation him and I had when um, you know he
- 35:14Speaker 1: came out to LA and you know, I just expressed
- 35:17Speaker 1: him as a businessman. You know, I need to prepare myself,
- 35:21Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying for you know my transitions
- 35:24Speaker 1: and you know, respectfully, you know if there's something going
- 35:27Speaker 1: on with you in Atlantic, you know, just let me
- 35:30Speaker 1: know so I could prepare myself, you know what I'm saying.
- 35:32Speaker 1: I was very clear with him with that, you know
- 35:34Speaker 1: what I mean. He was like, I got you, you
- 35:36Speaker 1: know what I mean, And it was like, you know,
- 35:40Speaker 1: may Back Music is no longer a label and it's
- 35:43Speaker 1: you know, I gotta go and actually do the work
- 35:45Speaker 1: that was necessary for my journey to like figure out
- 35:49Speaker 1: you know, where I was and it wasn't in a
- 35:51Speaker 1: good position, you know what I'm saying. So that's really
- 35:53Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying. It's like,
- 35:55Speaker 1: you know, we had a conversation, you know what I'm saying,
- 35:58Speaker 1: but you didn't honor that you feel like you needed to.
- 36:01Speaker 1: So look, you think sometimes as black artists being that
- 36:05Speaker 1: where black, instead of approaching it from just business, we
- 36:08Speaker 1: look at all these situations like family, whether it's bt K,
- 36:11Speaker 1: whether it's Made Back music, like, instead of looking at
- 36:13Speaker 1: it from just districtly business aspects like now we're your family,
- 36:16Speaker 1: so we get extra disappointed when things don't work out. Um.
- 36:19Speaker 1: I think that there is you know, a feeling and
- 36:22Speaker 1: an aspect you know to business when you do people.
- 36:25Speaker 1: When you do business with people that you like, I
- 36:27Speaker 1: wouldn't even say it's just a family thing, you know,
- 36:30Speaker 1: it's people that you like, you know what I'm saying.
- 36:32Speaker 1: So I think that you know, being transparent is important
- 36:38Speaker 1: and it's imperative for the success of the brand, you
- 36:42Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because you know, if you do
- 36:44Speaker 1: business with somebody and they're not willing to take accountability,
- 36:47Speaker 1: then you know, you kind of just left out there,
- 36:49Speaker 1: you know, without a plan, you know, and if it's
- 36:52Speaker 1: like a trust thing too. Yeah, But I think the
- 36:54Speaker 1: point of businesses is success. That's the point of you know,
- 36:59Speaker 1: our merger. We're coming together to you know, benefit each other,
- 37:03Speaker 1: you know, not for me to get more from you
- 37:06Speaker 1: or for you know, it to be vice versa. You know,
- 37:09Speaker 1: it has to be a mutual thing. That's the only
- 37:10Speaker 1: kind of business I'm interested in. You know what I'm saying.
- 37:13Speaker 1: You go to therapy, right? Um? No, no, I have
- 37:17Speaker 1: what what? What? What? What is a Marion done wrong
- 37:19Speaker 1: in any of these situations? I think, Um, I think,
- 37:23Speaker 1: not speak up, you know what I'm saying, Maybe not
- 37:26Speaker 1: speak up, maybe not have the words to you know, um,
- 37:33Speaker 1: you know, voice my opinion. And also I think I'm
- 37:36Speaker 1: a little you know, early on because I started so young.
- 37:40Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little gullible, you know what i mean.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Just as far as business, you know what I'm saying that,
- 37:45Speaker 1: as far as what people don't give you, what people
- 37:47Speaker 1: are not supposed to give you. You know what I'm saying,
- 37:49Speaker 1: Like the respect that sometimes you assume you might give,
- 37:52Speaker 1: but that you're never really shown, you know what I'm saying.
- 37:55Speaker 1: So I would say that, you know, that's definitely on me,
- 37:59Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I don't have no
- 38:01Speaker 1: problem you know what I'm saying, being honest about my
- 38:04Speaker 1: mistakes and taking accountability, you know what I mean, for
- 38:08Speaker 1: anything that I've done wrong to people. You know what
- 38:10Speaker 1: I'm saying, That they may have felt that I've done wrong,
- 38:13Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you have, If you
- 38:16Speaker 1: if you ever came across me and you know, have
- 38:19Speaker 1: a relationship with me and you were confused about something,
- 38:22Speaker 1: there was always an opportunity for you to be able
- 38:25Speaker 1: to you know, gaining some clarity. You know what I'm saying. Um,
- 38:29Speaker 1: but the actions, you know what I'm saying, And that's
- 38:31Speaker 1: something that we always have to bring into question when
- 38:33Speaker 1: we speaking about people's personalities. You know what I'm saying,
- 38:37Speaker 1: Like there's layers to this, you know what I'm saying.
- 38:39Speaker 1: And people have to be held accountable for what they're
- 38:42Speaker 1: projecting versus their actions. You know what I'm saying. So
- 38:46Speaker 1: you know what I would say. You know that I've
- 38:50Speaker 1: done wrong. It's it's just that you know what I'm saying,
- 38:52Speaker 1: just not you know, but it has gained me such
- 38:55Speaker 1: a heightened level of awareness. You know what I'm saying
- 38:57Speaker 1: that it's probably second or none. You know what I'm
- 38:59Speaker 1: saying because you know I've been through it over and
- 39:02Speaker 1: over again. You know what I mean, So I know
- 39:04Speaker 1: I know where I'm going. You know what I mean.
- 39:06Speaker 1: What does joy look like? The amaran hanging out with
- 39:09Speaker 1: my kids, the water, the beach. You know what I'm saying.
- 39:13Speaker 1: A woman, you know what I mean? Some curves, um,
- 39:17Speaker 1: you know what I mean, some pleasant words, some reading,
- 39:22Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Some some sex, some you know,
- 39:26Speaker 1: making love, some fucking. You know what I mean. Like
- 39:30Speaker 1: all of that. There's like four different ways to say
- 39:32Speaker 1: sex when people hear that, and like some people, what's
- 39:35Speaker 1: did making love and fucking to explain to them. Okay,
- 39:39Speaker 1: I would say that the difference between making love is
- 39:43Speaker 1: connecting on a deeper level, you know, connecting through um experiences,
- 39:50Speaker 1: connecting through UM touch, connecting through um you know, spirituality.
- 39:58Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's the difference between making
- 40:01Speaker 1: love and fucking. You know what I'm saying. Fucking is
- 40:05Speaker 1: more of a sport. You know what I'm saying. It's
- 40:07Speaker 1: more in the in the physical aspects, which you know,
- 40:10Speaker 1: it's some levels in there too. You know what I'm saying. Uma,
- 40:23Speaker 1: And I was just thinking about it, you know what
- 40:24Speaker 1: I mean. But yeah, there's stairs. You know, there's a
- 40:27Speaker 1: wide range. When you make music. What music do you
- 40:30Speaker 1: like to make? Do you like to make soundtracks for fucking?
- 40:32Speaker 1: I'm making love? I like to do a mix, Okay,
- 40:35Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I like to do a
- 40:36Speaker 1: mix because my experience has been very vast, so um,
- 40:41Speaker 1: I like to do a mix. But more of love,
- 40:44Speaker 1: you know what I mean, More of love, because that
- 40:47Speaker 1: is where intentionalize. You know what I'm saying. Anyone couldn't
- 40:51Speaker 1: you know what I mean, go to the gym and
- 40:53Speaker 1: work out and be big, you know what I mean.
- 40:55Speaker 1: But to actually diet and to like start carving out
- 40:59Speaker 1: that so you know, it requires a different level, a
- 41:03Speaker 1: different type of discipline. You know what I'm saying. How
- 41:05Speaker 1: many times have you made love in your life? Mario?
- 41:07Speaker 1: A few times with the same person, to different people. No,
- 41:11Speaker 1: different women, Okay, ye're different women, you know. Um. You know,
- 41:16Speaker 1: to feel vulnerable enough to express yourself as like a
- 41:19Speaker 1: scary thing, especially for a man, especially for someone you
- 41:23Speaker 1: know like me, you know what I mean. But to
- 41:25Speaker 1: feel comfortable like that, those times were like priceless. You know.
- 41:30Speaker 1: That's how I made my first child, you know what
- 41:32Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, okay, yeah, you know what I mean.
- 41:35Speaker 1: And it was like mega popped up, bam, Oh a minute,
- 41:38Speaker 1: this thing works. This thing works, you know what I mean.
- 41:42Speaker 1: But what an experience, you know what I'm saying. And
- 41:46Speaker 1: we appreciate joining us. I got a couple more questions, man,
- 41:49Speaker 1: like you know, he asked the question, what are you
- 41:51Speaker 1: willing to struggle for? Yeah? You do you believe people
- 41:54Speaker 1: are willing to struggle to accomplish their goals? And do
- 41:56Speaker 1: you have to struggle? The other thing, especially when it
- 41:58Speaker 1: comes to our kids. We don't want our kids to
- 42:00Speaker 1: struggle that's why we work in the way we work. Yeah,
- 42:03Speaker 1: I think that a necessary struggle is imperative to life,
- 42:08Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it makes you, you know,
- 42:12Speaker 1: apparent to balance. You know what I'm saying, Like everything
- 42:16Speaker 1: is not good and everything is not bad. You know,
- 42:18Speaker 1: the life is polaris you know what I'm saying, polarities.
- 42:21Speaker 1: So some of the things that I was in the
- 42:24Speaker 1: struggle for is is the things that I go through,
- 42:27Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know what i mean,
- 42:29Speaker 1: like my experience, you know what I'm saying. In this industry,
- 42:33Speaker 1: what I'm you know, willing to contribute, you know what
- 42:36Speaker 1: I'm saying, not being motivated because so many people hating
- 42:40Speaker 1: on you. You know what I mean, like digging down
- 42:42Speaker 1: and figuring out like, oh okay, I do this for
- 42:45Speaker 1: a whole other thing. You know what I'm saying. You know,
- 42:48Speaker 1: like words and all of that is nice, you know
- 42:50Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But to be able to be a
- 42:52Speaker 1: part of a movie like you got served to change people.
- 42:55Speaker 1: You know. I was just in France, you know what
- 42:57Speaker 1: I mean, And I went out there solely for this
- 43:01Speaker 1: thing called Dance Fusion, which all dance competition, you know
- 43:04Speaker 1: what I mean, Like and the amount of love you
- 43:07Speaker 1: know what I mean, across on the world and in
- 43:09Speaker 1: the world, like yo, you know what I mean. That's
- 43:11Speaker 1: transitioning into you know, the movies and the other aspects
- 43:15Speaker 1: of my career. You know what I mean, That I'll
- 43:17Speaker 1: be exploring as a mobil So I wouldn't take nothing back,
- 43:20Speaker 1: but I'm willing to struggle for those things. And you
- 43:22Speaker 1: said one woman told you that her best friend died
- 43:25Speaker 1: in ice box. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, and they
- 43:29Speaker 1: buried a picture with me, you know what I mean,
- 43:31Speaker 1: which was like at the time, I didn't really understand that,
- 43:34Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But to be able to
- 43:37Speaker 1: show up in someone's life, you know what I mean.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Fans hit me sometimes be like, yeah, you was in
- 43:42Speaker 1: my dream, you know what I mean, Like what is that?
- 43:44Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's connecting on a deeper level.
- 43:48Speaker 1: You know that is unseen, you know what I'm saying.
- 43:51Speaker 1: So to be gifted that in this lifetime experience, you know,
- 43:55Speaker 1: I wanted to be a good one, you know what
- 43:56Speaker 1: I mean. Wherever I show up in people's lives, I
- 43:59Speaker 1: wanted to be prolific, you know I wanted to be
- 44:03Speaker 1: you know, something like that story, you know what I mean.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Like they you know, they had they shared so many
- 44:09Speaker 1: great memories with my music that it was so intense
- 44:14Speaker 1: that they wanted to bury a picture, you know, in
- 44:18Speaker 1: his casket as he is transitioning from this lifetime. He
- 44:22Speaker 1: put a picture that in her mind that made him happy,
- 44:27Speaker 1: you know, in his wherever he going, you know what
- 44:30Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's deep, you know what I mean.
- 44:32Speaker 1: So I just want to, you know, continue to un
- 44:34Speaker 1: as artist. I want to ask you a couple more questions,
- 44:37Speaker 1: especially in particular the Drink Champion interview. Right, Um, I
- 44:41Speaker 1: saw Fitz said that he can't he's not in contact
- 44:44Speaker 1: with you because he never had your number. It's always
- 44:46Speaker 1: been like that. That true. How does that sounds? I
- 44:52Speaker 1: don't know. That sounds crazy man without calling you first, Okay,
- 45:00Speaker 1: come on, ye, come on man, that's a joke. But
- 45:04Speaker 1: you know he feels some type of way. So and
- 45:06Speaker 1: he also said that you went solo because he had
- 45:10Speaker 1: sex with a woman you liked, man, and that was
- 45:14Speaker 1: so long ago. Um nah, I don't remember that happening.
- 45:19Speaker 1: Fitz was um he was the first one to go
- 45:21Speaker 1: solo because you know, Fiz was like the rapper, yeah
- 45:24Speaker 1: and yeah, and you know the rapper was like the
- 45:26Speaker 1: most famous in the group. You know what I'm saying.
- 45:28Speaker 1: So Fitz was definitely like in front, you know what
- 45:31Speaker 1: I mean, as far as you know, um, certain vibes,
- 45:36Speaker 1: you know what I mean in the group. You know
- 45:38Speaker 1: what I mean. You know how like okay, Fitz doing
- 45:41Speaker 1: something or he on his own way. Shit, we all
- 45:43Speaker 1: getting on our own way, you know what I mean.
- 45:44Speaker 1: So I viewed it like that, Um, didn't they kick
- 45:47Speaker 1: you out the group? Basically? No, no, not really. Now,
- 45:50Speaker 1: it wasn't they fault. I take that back, No, it
- 45:53Speaker 1: wasn't they fault. It was it was Chris Stokes fault.
- 45:56Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean,
- 45:58Speaker 1: because you know, he made us become brothers and then
- 46:02Speaker 1: you know he separated us, you know what I mean.
- 46:05Speaker 1: So he the elder that you talk about, Um, he's
- 46:08Speaker 1: one of the elders. Okay, you know what I mean.
- 46:10Speaker 1: You don't have a relationship with him now now you
- 46:12Speaker 1: know Rasby and I think it's been room with dad.
- 46:16Speaker 1: You know, he talks about sexual abuse with Chris Stokes.
- 46:19Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything like that. I haven't. I
- 46:22Speaker 1: haven't seen anything like that, you know what I mean?
- 46:24Speaker 1: But yeah, I haven't. Right, Yeah, Well that's like, you know,
- 46:37Speaker 1: the varios are funny. He's not funny to me. But
- 46:39Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not I'm not. I'm an answer. When
- 46:41Speaker 1: I want to answer, he don't. He don't engage when
- 46:43Speaker 1: he doesn't anything, he don't want to engage any engage.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Respect that I respect. Not a tell all book or
- 46:50Speaker 1: anything like that. There's a couple of stories that are relevant,
- 46:53Speaker 1: you know, to what it is that you're trying to
- 46:55Speaker 1: portray about the spirituality aspect of it. But it's not
- 47:00Speaker 1: a tell all juice. Yeah, nay Na, I really want
- 47:04Speaker 1: people to understand, you know what I'm saying, Like through
- 47:06Speaker 1: the fire, through it all. You know what I'm saying,
- 47:08Speaker 1: You gotta make certain choices and it's up to you.
- 47:11Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's really up to you.
- 47:14Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And I also I also
- 47:16Speaker 1: don't think y'all realize the impact y'all, or maybe y'all do.
- 47:18Speaker 1: I don't think y'all realize the impact y'all had on
- 47:20Speaker 1: the generation. Because truth be told, I didn't realize it.
- 47:23Speaker 1: So I talk to people like I think they tailor,
- 47:25Speaker 1: you know what I mean, who grew up on B
- 47:26Speaker 1: two ks. They go to the what's the toy nine?
- 47:29Speaker 1: The screams, don't not the script millennium toy and stuff
- 47:33Speaker 1: now and they love y'all. So it's like, the more
- 47:36Speaker 1: y'all talk, the more questions people have, it almost feels
- 47:39Speaker 1: like their childhood was a lie. Yeah, you know what
- 47:41Speaker 1: I mean, was it? I don't know, I don't know.
- 47:48Speaker 1: I'm saying. The more the more they hear y'all talk,
- 47:51Speaker 1: that generation feels like their childhood was a lot. And
- 47:53Speaker 1: they looked at y'all like brothers. I thought everything was
- 47:55Speaker 1: all good. And I think the reason why I say
- 47:58Speaker 1: that is because I think that because we grew up together,
- 48:01Speaker 1: there is things to observe in that And that's the reason,
- 48:04Speaker 1: that's the reason why this book is here. You know
- 48:07Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we grew up together, we all
- 48:11Speaker 1: went through similar things. You know, we all have people
- 48:15Speaker 1: that you know, we're around that could have done more
- 48:18Speaker 1: and could have said things. It could have did things
- 48:20Speaker 1: a certain type of way. But guess what, some of
- 48:23Speaker 1: them ain't being held accountable and you know, we're gonna
- 48:29Speaker 1: either leave it up to the universe to handle that,
- 48:31Speaker 1: you know, which always handles that, you know what I'm saying,
- 48:34Speaker 1: or something's gonna happen. No, I'm just saying, but I'm saying,
- 48:40Speaker 1: we see it with certain song writers. You can't get away.
- 48:43Speaker 1: You can't get away for the things that you do
- 48:45Speaker 1: on this planet. Okay, period. I want my generation to
- 48:51Speaker 1: understand that. You know what I'm saying, Read the book,
- 48:54Speaker 1: get the book. Trust me. You know what I'm saying.
- 48:57Speaker 1: This is for you. Do you feel like you're opening
- 48:59Speaker 1: up more? You open up another cand of warrant by
- 49:02Speaker 1: putting out the doctor not doing a book? You think, nah, nah,
- 49:06Speaker 1: because you know this is my story. You know what
- 49:08Speaker 1: I'm saying. This is my story, and I own my story.
- 49:11Speaker 1: How do you tell her to someone else? Well? Yeah,
- 49:13Speaker 1: that and also it's it's great, it's not bad. It's great.
- 49:18Speaker 1: You're still standing by the background dances remark or you
- 49:21Speaker 1: feel bad about that? Nah? Nah? You know what? Um
- 49:25Speaker 1: when I think about that, you know, I thought that
- 49:27Speaker 1: was funny because I'm gonna just you know, keep it
- 49:30Speaker 1: player with you. You know what I'm saying. As you've
- 49:31Speaker 1: seen with the mother and my children. Like, I'm never
- 49:34Speaker 1: pressed off of a woman choosing up or who she
- 49:37Speaker 1: want to be with. That's not my personality, you know
- 49:39Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, Hey, women choose you know what
- 49:41Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, But for me, that's that's not what
- 49:44Speaker 1: it was about. You know what I'm saying. That's trivial
- 49:48Speaker 1: in a drop, you know what I mean, in the
- 49:50Speaker 1: ocean of the other things that we all have shared
- 49:54Speaker 1: an experience that you know what I mean. Come on, man,
- 49:58Speaker 1: that's small, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's
- 50:01Speaker 1: more funny to me. That's another thing that's just like that.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Don't what does that have to do with anything? Bro?
- 50:07Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What's up? Man? You know,
- 50:10Speaker 1: and you think all communication is done like because God forbid.
- 50:13Speaker 1: We live in a real crazy world. You see the
- 50:14Speaker 1: things that's happening to people. If something was to happen
- 50:17Speaker 1: to one of them, wouldn't you feel some sort of way? Yeah? Man,
- 50:20Speaker 1: I don't want nothing to happen to nobody. You know
- 50:22Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I wish everybody, well, man, I don't
- 50:25Speaker 1: want I don't wish no ill nobody. You know what
- 50:27Speaker 1: I'm saying, um, and I wish them well, man, you
- 50:31Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I really hope that they
- 50:34Speaker 1: see through this experience and they take a little bit
- 50:37Speaker 1: more accountability, you know what I mean, moving forward, And
- 50:40Speaker 1: I like, I hope that they, you know, um, do
- 50:45Speaker 1: good things for that life. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 50:46Speaker 1: I don't wish nobody bad, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
- 50:50Speaker 1: what does Marcus used to say about all of this?
- 50:52Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't speak to him. You don't
- 50:54Speaker 1: speak I know that I haven't spoke to him so long,
- 50:59Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that was your real that's not
- 51:00Speaker 1: your real brother. No, I'm the eldest and you funny
- 51:05Speaker 1: Charlot Mane because you're looking at you like that. Brothers Yes,
- 51:12Speaker 1: I always yeah, No, Ryan, Nah, that's my real brother. Okay,
- 51:21Speaker 1: I'm the oldest. Yeah. And what does she just asked
- 51:24Speaker 1: me to ask you? What does watermelon have to do
- 51:26Speaker 1: with everything? Ok? Do you like water guys? Do you
- 51:29Speaker 1: like watermelon? Yes? Watermelon is one of the best, very healthy. Yes,
- 51:35Speaker 1: good for your heart, good for your skin. Okay, thank you? Yes,
- 51:37Speaker 1: and see so and that's the window. And that's the
- 51:39Speaker 1: window that people just don't want to walk through because
- 51:42Speaker 1: they want to just stay at the you know, sexual
- 51:44Speaker 1: aspect of it. You know what I mean. Because good
- 51:47Speaker 1: things are like sex, you know what I'm saying, And
- 51:49Speaker 1: that's why we're all addicted to it, you know what
- 51:51Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when you mix the fruit with the sex,
- 51:55Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that's another level. You might
- 51:57Speaker 1: want to try that, you know what I'm saying. Try
- 51:59Speaker 1: Watermel and Taylor. I'm telling you might want to try that.
- 52:01Speaker 1: You want to might just want to start by kissing
- 52:03Speaker 1: somebody with somebody that you love, well, watermelon, and see
- 52:07Speaker 1: how you feel. It's interesting. They give you Flight four.
- 52:10Speaker 1: But when Beyonce, you just randomly said it in the
- 52:11Speaker 1: song nobody Can It's randomly watermelon, you just know being
- 52:18Speaker 1: Oh say it? Oh do it? It's a problem. All right? Well,
- 52:25Speaker 1: y usually be like, well, where's the new record? But
- 52:27Speaker 1: you ain't got a record for us today? Yes, yes,
- 52:29Speaker 1: I do, Okay, okay, okay, what's what's this record? Let's
- 52:32Speaker 1: go introduce it? Oh wait a minute, I'm sorry, my bad.
- 52:37Speaker 1: Hold on, I got too excited. No, we got the album.
- 52:40Speaker 1: It's ready, it's in the clip. We can't get a record. Yeah,
- 52:43Speaker 1: we could get a record syndicated on a hundred and
- 52:45Speaker 1: thirty plus markets everybody. That's okay, Okay, we should probably
- 52:50Speaker 1: we should probably we should probably send it to y'all
- 52:52Speaker 1: so we could see you know what I mean, because honestly,
- 52:55Speaker 1: I have to salute you if you've always been a supporter,
- 52:57Speaker 1: you've always liked and enjoyed my music and reported me,
- 53:00Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So this, um, this new
- 53:02Speaker 1: album is new project Full Circle. Man, I want I
- 53:05Speaker 1: want to definitely say it to you first that it's
- 53:07Speaker 1: called Full Circle. It's called Full Circle. Okay, Yeah, a
- 53:10Speaker 1: lot of features you come. You see where I'm going
- 53:13Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, it's prophetic. Okay, when's it gonna It's
- 53:17Speaker 1: coming out for years old? Yes, all right, yes, okay,
- 53:20Speaker 1: all right, Well it's the Breakfast Club is a Mario
- 53:22Speaker 1: face