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Episode 51. A Squid Games Thanksgiving & Paul Atreides vs. Big Bird (Feat. Shara Crosslin of 100 Devs) · High n' Dry Podcast

0:15
SPEAKER_07: Going out there.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, cool.
0:17
SPEAKER_07: Say deal.
0:18
SPEAKER_07: Say deal.
0:20
SPEAKER_07: Oh shit, I was gonna say something before.
0:23
SPEAKER_07: We were talking about something.
0:24
SPEAKER_02: Um the dog is like how big big bird could potentially be a Thanksgiving meal.
0:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh you went too far back.
0:34
SPEAKER_03: There was something in between.
0:35
SPEAKER_03: I I know there was.
0:36
SPEAKER_03: I just it's gone forever.
0:39
SPEAKER_02: Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
0:43
SPEAKER_07: Where were we gonna run it?
0:44
SPEAKER_07: We're watching uh uh Buzzfeed Unsolved Supernatural.
0:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah there's a Mothman episode, and he made they make the most apparently Mothman has a high-pitched voice, not a sounds like sounds like like a puff that almost and they're like make your best Mothman call.
1:00
SPEAKER_06: And and fucking one of them goes, had a fucking crack in a sounds about right.
1:09
SPEAKER_07: It's Mothman.
1:10
SPEAKER_02: That's what I expected.
1:11
SPEAKER_02: Makes Mothman want to fuck.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: Did you imagine him coming at you hard and heavy?
1:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, because one of the one of the eyewitness accounts was like this little old lady in her backyard, and he was on the roof.
1:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he just starts coming in with those noises.
1:34
SPEAKER_02: She was wearing like a moo moo and lit to him.
1:36
SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh, there we go.
1:38
SPEAKER_03: This reportedly has very strong glowing red fuck me eyes.
1:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, they're very sexy.
1:44
SPEAKER_02: Very sexy.
1:45
SPEAKER_02: All right, you guys got your you got your stuff.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:49
SPEAKER_03: I believe we do.
1:51
SPEAKER_07: See, I get the sweet uh keyboard.
1:54
SPEAKER_02: I saw that.
1:55
SPEAKER_02: This place keeps getting upgraded every time I come on in.
1:58
SPEAKER_07: It's a fucking nightmare having old broken down shit.
2:02
SPEAKER_07: It's almost like having money gives you access to better goods and services.
2:07
SPEAKER_07: That's crazy.
2:12
SPEAKER_03: People should know about this.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, that being said, you guys ready to do this?
2:20
SPEAKER_02: Let's see if we remember how to do this.
2:22
SPEAKER_02: It's been a minute.
2:23
SPEAKER_07: Hi, welcome to High and Dry.
2:25
SPEAKER_07: This is your host.
2:26
SPEAKER_07: Wait, no.
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unknown: So close.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was, yeah, that was that jogs the old memory.
2:31
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's do this.
2:33
SPEAKER_02: All right, everybody.
2:33
SPEAKER_05: Thank you for having a high and dry.
2:35
SPEAKER_05: Hold on, no, not already.
2:38
SPEAKER_02: Can I?
2:39
SPEAKER_00: Do you mind?
2:43
SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
2:44
SPEAKER_02: Hey everybody, welcome to High and Dry Podcast, the only podcast where we do all of our own stunts.
2:49
SPEAKER_02: Yep, that was it.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: That was the thing we said.
2:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
2:52
SPEAKER_02: With me as always, James Croslin.
2:54
SPEAKER_02: James, what's going on?
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SPEAKER_07: Uh, not much.
2:56
SPEAKER_07: Just enjoying the lead up to the holiday.
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SPEAKER_07: Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
3:00
SPEAKER_02: Happy Thanksgiving.
3:01
SPEAKER_02: This will be our Thanksgiving episode.
3:04
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
3:05
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: Glad we got to squeak one in here.
3:07
SPEAKER_02: It's been a minute.
3:08
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
3:09
SPEAKER_07: Thanksgiving is certainly a white savior myth.
3:11
SPEAKER_07: So it's true.
3:13
SPEAKER_07: I know that that we uh the claim is that the Native Americans brought us food, but then we were sure like, and then every and then we were great to them.
3:21
SPEAKER_03: Don't worry about all that other shit.
3:25
SPEAKER_02: We mythologize around here.
3:27
SPEAKER_02: Um but uh yeah, no, but then things have just been pretty cool.
3:30
SPEAKER_02: We just had Luke from TalkFar gaming out here.
3:32
SPEAKER_02: We had Reese Merritt come on down.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: We uh it was just a big crazy party in Vegas.
3:37
SPEAKER_02: It was awesome getting to see all them, so that was sweet.
3:40
SPEAKER_02: Um I had uh the thanks to you, James, sponsored me to that writing convention, and I had three manuscript requests from three different agents.
3:49
SPEAKER_02: So that's really congratulations, man.
3:51
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
3:51
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
3:52
SPEAKER_02: A lot of stuff going on.
3:53
SPEAKER_02: And so Cheryl, thanks for joining us again.
3:55
SPEAKER_02: We keep hearing you in the back.
3:57
SPEAKER_02: Let's introduce you.
3:58
SPEAKER_02: What's going on, Cheryl?
4:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying.
4:03
SPEAKER_03: Who the hell is that?
4:04
SPEAKER_03: Some angel.
4:08
SPEAKER_03: We don't acknowledge that voice.
4:11
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, everything's going well.
4:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, not as eventful uh a time, but I've been enjoying myself.
4:17
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
4:18
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
4:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it feel like it feels a little lighter just in in general, within the circle, you know, of everyone.
4:25
SPEAKER_02: Things feel a little more at peace.
4:27
SPEAKER_02: So hopefully, you know, I think good things are coming, and I think it's gonna continue that way.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: I got a new mattress coming in a month.
4:33
SPEAKER_07: Heck yeah, we got a new dishwasher.
4:34
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
4:35
SPEAKER_02: See, good.
4:35
SPEAKER_07: The dishwasher's been like 15 fucking years old.
4:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
4:40
SPEAKER_02: I am so happy to have a new man.
4:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't sleep anymore.
4:43
SPEAKER_02: I just uh it's not worth the effort.
4:46
SPEAKER_02: I may I just might as well stay up.
4:48
SPEAKER_02: So that's what I've been doing.
4:50
SPEAKER_02: My eyes are getting dark and dark, but anyway.
4:52
SPEAKER_03: Um so and feel free to free feel free to cut this out, but I feel like that was such a strong gloss over like the most important thing that happened this week, which is you got married.
5:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
5:02
SPEAKER_06: And then yeah, I also gotta happen for everybody else.
5:07
SPEAKER_06: Did I dream that?
5:08
SPEAKER_02: I got a new fucking mattress coming, and I got married in, so that's pretty cool.
5:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's like, you know, like you know, you get married, and I I talk to her all the time.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't sleep a lot, you know, and so just stop talking to your wife.
5:25
SPEAKER_03: Maybe you wouldn't have this problem.
5:27
SPEAKER_03: Jeez.
5:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, no, I didn't got married, and that's why everyone was out.
5:31
SPEAKER_02: So uh that was pretty cool.
5:32
SPEAKER_02: Um, just seeing you know, everyone, seeing Luke, especially.
5:35
SPEAKER_02: We got him on all the time, getting to see my brother again.
5:38
SPEAKER_02: So no, it was great.
5:39
SPEAKER_02: It was a great week all around, a little busy.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: It's great seeing everybody.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
5:42
SPEAKER_02: No, it was a good time, good time.
5:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, but and then so for those of you who are just joining us, uh, if you're coming back, thank you.
5:48
SPEAKER_02: I know we've been gone for a little bit.
5:49
SPEAKER_02: If you're just joining us, hey, thanks for checking us out.
5:51
SPEAKER_02: We got a lot coming up this episode.
5:53
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be talking about Dune, we're gonna be talking about Thanksgiving, we're gonna be talking about Squid Games and my mattress.
6:01
SPEAKER_02: So uh thanks.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: So this is how it works.
6:04
SPEAKER_02: So our first part of the episode the the dog's just getting weird over here.
6:09
SPEAKER_02: He's licking her ear.
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SPEAKER_07: Go on, go lay down.
6:12
SPEAKER_02: You guys are getting too freaky.
6:14
SPEAKER_07: Go ahead and close that door behind them.
6:15
SPEAKER_07: Go.
6:15
SPEAKER_07: Great.
6:15
SPEAKER_07: Go, go lay down.
6:17
SPEAKER_07: Go outside.
6:18
SPEAKER_07: Go outside.
6:19
SPEAKER_02: All right, so anyway, I didn't want to slam it.
6:21
SPEAKER_07: It's gonna have to be closed all the way.
6:22
SPEAKER_07: They're gonna come back.
6:23
SPEAKER_07: They're gonna push the door open.
6:25
unknown: Sorry, chair.
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SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_07: Can you close the chair?
6:30
SPEAKER_03: This animation is brought to you.
6:33
SPEAKER_07: That's good enough.
6:36
SPEAKER_07: Don't come back in here.
6:37
SPEAKER_07: Don't come back in.
6:39
SPEAKER_07: I'm mad at you and you don't know why.
6:41
SPEAKER_02: Alright, you're getting weird.
6:43
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so uh, this is how the show works.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: Our first part of the episode starts off with a philosophical debate, a moral conundrum, and it devolves into a fist fight, as those things often do, and we have a discussion about uh your favorite nerd shit, and we see who wins.
6:56
SPEAKER_02: But before we do that, what sets us apart and makes us so great and special is first we get a little drunk and we get a little high.
7:02
SPEAKER_02: So uh what are you guys smoking this week?
7:05
SPEAKER_07: Uh so Sharon and I are going to be sharing a strain called Cookie Punch.
7:11
SPEAKER_06: Oh.
7:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
7:14
SPEAKER_07: I think it's a combination of Girl Scout cookies and fruit punch.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't I think it just because you said cookies.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: I saw this thing where a cookie monster is staring off into the ocean and he says, without cookies, I'm just a monster.
7:28
SPEAKER_02: Same.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: So uh, and I'm gonna be joining you guys.
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SPEAKER_02: This was left by uh Talk for our gaming zone Luke.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: It's Pendleton whiskey.
7:41
SPEAKER_02: True Western tradition.
7:42
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
7:43
SPEAKER_02: We got 40% alcohol, it's an 80-proof, exceptionally rich taste, and an uncommonly smooth finish.
7:50
SPEAKER_02: You did suggest getting that one.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: He did.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: He did.
7:53
SPEAKER_02: And it says approved by RR Dodge.
7:56
SPEAKER_02: So let's see, uh let's see how this goes.
7:58
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, did you turn into Mr.
7:59
SPEAKER_03: Krabs there for a second?
8:00
SPEAKER_03: It's R R R.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like George R R Martin.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright, so let's pour him up.
8:06
SPEAKER_03: You heard the man pour up that weed.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: Pour up that weed.
8:09
SPEAKER_07: It's already poor.
8:11
SPEAKER_07: I can't pour it anymore.
8:14
SPEAKER_02: So our our first host, a first hit, this one goes out to Carl Urban, Cher, and tonight's guest, Cher.
8:21
SPEAKER_02: Cher, thanks for coming by.
8:22
SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
8:23
SPEAKER_07: Hoo boy.
8:25
SPEAKER_07: Who boy indeed.
8:28
SPEAKER_07: Wow.
8:30
SPEAKER_02: That uh China.
8:34
SPEAKER_02: That hits strong.
8:35
SPEAKER_02: It hits really strong.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: Like the it's smooth on your tongue, but it burns your heart.
8:40
SPEAKER_02: I see.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: That's fun.
8:42
SPEAKER_02: That's fun.
8:43
SPEAKER_02: How's yours?
8:44
SPEAKER_02: That's really nice.
8:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, very nice.
8:48
SPEAKER_03: Smooth.
8:49
SPEAKER_03: Smoky.
8:51
SPEAKER_07: Very, very pleasant experience.
8:53
SPEAKER_07: It's not even smoky, it's vapor, you know.
8:54
SPEAKER_04: Vapory.
8:55
SPEAKER_07: It must be nice.
8:56
SPEAKER_07: This one's still burning a little bit.
8:57
SPEAKER_07: It's incredibly nice.
8:59
SPEAKER_07: All right.
9:00
SPEAKER_07: Well that uh I think that everybody should uh try vaporized cannabis.
9:04
SPEAKER_07: Very enjoyable.
9:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, there you go.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: All right.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, time for our second toast, second hit, second shot.
9:14
SPEAKER_07: For those of you who who do try uh vaporized cannabis, you will notice that your mouth gets very dry very quickly.
9:20
SPEAKER_07: That's often why I cough, isn't because the vapor is strong or anything, it's just because it dries me off immediately.
9:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we're in a desert, so it just compounds.
9:29
SPEAKER_03: But if you do hit it too hard, you 100% will like cough.
9:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:32
SPEAKER_03: Like a month.
9:33
SPEAKER_07: Let's do it.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: Alright, well, our second one um goes to out this one, you know, this toast we do it to our newest listeners, and we've been gone for a little bit.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I'm just now checking the stats whilst we've been away, and we have some shout-outs to a few places.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: We have Cave City, Arkansas.
9:50
SPEAKER_02: Woo! We got uh, let's see, Catham, Ontario, we have Vineland of New Jersey, Mesa, Arizona, let's see here, and Cebu City in the province of Cebu.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: I think so, yeah.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: Thanks, Philippines, and then Frankfurt, Hess.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: So Germany?
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
10:10
SPEAKER_03: Very nice.
10:11
SPEAKER_03: Sweet too.
10:12
SPEAKER_03: So international.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: No, that's pretty cool.
10:14
SPEAKER_02: All right.
10:15
SPEAKER_02: So here's to all the time.
10:20
SPEAKER_03: Than people in the United States.
10:21
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna have to explain Thanksgiving a little bit.
10:24
SPEAKER_07: Let's do it.
10:25
SPEAKER_03: Alright, well, let's have our shot.
10:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh god, fuck you, Luke.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: It was so nice seeing him.
10:38
SPEAKER_07: Oh god.
10:39
SPEAKER_07: Uh well, I took your shotgun.
10:41
SPEAKER_07: I didn't blow it out.
10:42
SPEAKER_07: I just breathed in more vapor and then blew that back in here.
10:47
SPEAKER_03: Recycling.
10:50
SPEAKER_07: Oh, fuck.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Um have a good time.
10:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm having a great time.
10:54
SPEAKER_02: I am too.
10:54
SPEAKER_02: I I miss I I do love doing this stuff.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: I I do.
10:57
SPEAKER_02: And I I feel, you know, I think we could have a good time with it if as now is this kind of stress is starting to slip away a little bit, you know, versus what we were dealing with before.
11:08
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
11:08
SPEAKER_07: Now I gotta turn off work stress.
11:10
SPEAKER_07: Not that like my work is particularly mean or like like the overall thing.
11:16
SPEAKER_07: It's just it's just stress, stressful being working, you know.
11:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah.
11:21
SPEAKER_07: Well, but it was stress, it was way more stressful before.
11:23
SPEAKER_07: I much pre I much prefer this stress.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: I like stress with the comfort of knowing I'm not gonna starve next month.
11:29
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: You know, they are coming to turn the water off.
11:32
SPEAKER_07: I have I have ten thousand dollars in my bank accounts, and I've never had ten thousand dollars in my bank accounts.
11:39
SPEAKER_07: Weird flex, but all right.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm happy for you.
11:43
SPEAKER_07: I I mean uh people who who have had that before are probably like, no, whatever, you know, but like for the f for the that's for the first time for me.
11:51
SPEAKER_07: It's fucking crazy.
11:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm not even fucking I'm not there yet.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: Hell no, I I got built too many bills for that.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, had I have managed my money more responsibly, you know, I could have probably been there several times at this point, but you know, I have a Camaro.
12:05
SPEAKER_07: I mean it's before I paid the bills.
12:06
SPEAKER_07: I mean, like a whole bunch of it's gonna get taken out from bills.
12:09
SPEAKER_07: Okay, but it's just like at one time in my account, I have like that's pretty cool.
12:13
SPEAKER_02: It's pretty cool.
12:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of uh our final one, our third hit, third shot, third toast, uh guests toast.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: Sarah, what's this one too?
12:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh, geez.
12:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, I've been on this show before a couple times, and I always forget that this is a thing.
12:27
SPEAKER_03: Um toast to um The Pilgrims.
12:34
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, fuck those got that.
12:35
SPEAKER_03: Um toast to spend time with your family.
12:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, toast to families.
12:40
SPEAKER_03: Uh family.
12:41
SPEAKER_03: Be safe out there, but also enjoy your family.
12:44
SPEAKER_03: It's it's good to connect with people, and um, that's why we do this.
12:49
SPEAKER_03: Cheers to all of y'all.
12:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just meeting new people.
12:51
SPEAKER_03: I met a lot of amazing people this last week, uh, thanks to uh the wedding.
12:56
SPEAKER_03: And um, yeah, feels really good just to connect with people, not just behind a screen.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: No, and I'd like to add on to that just saying that you know, family does not have to be someone you were born with.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, just we've talked about Luke a few times now, and I haven't seen that dude face to face for six years.
13:11
SPEAKER_07: You just saw him last week.
13:13
SPEAKER_07: Jesus Christ.
13:15
SPEAKER_02: And then a big event happens.
13:17
SPEAKER_02: We've been in touch this whole time, and all of a sudden he's down here at my wedding.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, just family, all shapes and sizes.
13:24
SPEAKER_02: Here's here's to them.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: So cheers.
13:25
SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
13:27
SPEAKER_03: Fuck you, Luke.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: I hate this whiskey.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: Take this home.
13:34
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna I'm gonna have a shot of that whiskey for the final shot.
13:40
SPEAKER_07: I'll I'll try it.
13:42
SPEAKER_07: I don't think I've tried it yet.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I think it would be good if I had some coke.
13:47
SPEAKER_07: You know, some well, cocaine makes everything better.
13:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and so if I can just have just a witty bit of rock.
13:56
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so we're now a little inebriated.
13:59
SPEAKER_02: It's time to move into the first part of this show.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, our philosophical debate.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: Um It is Wednesday, my dudes.
14:08
SPEAKER_02: I just realized.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: But it's time for our philosophical debate.
14:11
SPEAKER_02: So the question I have for you guys this week, um, I'm snatching it right off of Netflix and the thing that everyone was talking about about two weeks ago.
14:20
SPEAKER_02: Squid games.
14:21
SPEAKER_02: Um, simple.
14:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh have you guys seen it?
14:23
SPEAKER_02: You watched it yet?
14:24
SPEAKER_02: Yes, we've watched it, yes.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: So you guys get the concept here.
14:27
SPEAKER_02: The question I have for you guys, pretty simple.
14:29
SPEAKER_07: Well, no, you need to tell the audience what Squid Game is.
14:31
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so if you've been living under a rock for the past uh two weeks, um you haven't heard about this thing, Squid Games.
14:37
SPEAKER_02: And it's essentially um we see uh a slice of South Korean life of several individuals who've become so desperate that they are willing to become a part of this underground game of just sort of childhood games um to the death.
14:56
SPEAKER_02: But the winner you know walks away with enough money to solve all of their financial issues.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: Um and so and and we see the that the desperation that allows them to make this decision here where they're willing to you know risk it all to try and you know have their money problems go away.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, a lot to be said about it.
15:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm uh you know, it it's kind of broke my heart a little bit because America, we're dealing with this crap so much.
15:22
SPEAKER_07: America!
15:22
unknown: Woo!
15:23
SPEAKER_02: And then and then I'm like, fuck now, South Korea's gotta deal with it too.
15:26
SPEAKER_07: Oh no, like the whole world deals with poverty in ways that we in in our country can't even imagine.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like, come on, guys, we we have we have the technology.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: This doesn't need to be happening.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: Um well, so my question for you guys is Squid Games.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: So you're hanging out here, um James, you find that that ten thousand dollars in your bank account ain't gonna cut it um to you know a level that's required.
15:54
SPEAKER_02: But uh the question I have for you guys was would you do it?
15:57
SPEAKER_02: You're offered this chance to finally remove all of your problems and see the end of this financial, you know, hellhole.
16:05
SPEAKER_02: Would you do it?
16:06
SPEAKER_02: Would you risk Squid Games?
16:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh guests first, Sarah, what do you think?
16:12
SPEAKER_03: So I personally would be worried that I'd like immediately die because I'm so clumsy.
16:20
SPEAKER_03: Like I don't have any kind of coordination or physical strength.
16:24
SPEAKER_03: Like I'm just a mobile head, really.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: It's true.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: Well that's actually true.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: So if I understood the stakes before agreeing to it, then um I don't think I don't think I would because I'd be like, oh, I'm I'm for sure gonna die.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: Like, there's no way I'm gonna win this thing.
16:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I can understand how people living in like incredible amounts of debt um would find that appeal.
16:52
SPEAKER_03: Because in a lot of cases, there's like no possible way to ever make that amount of money any other way in your life.
16:59
SPEAKER_03: It's like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, has there ever been a point in your life where because I mean it's it it's very situational.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: I mean, like where you're at today, has there ever been a It's time to take out the trash.
17:14
SPEAKER_03: I'm so sorry.
17:15
SPEAKER_03: No, it's okay.
17:16
SPEAKER_03: I forgot that it's Wednesday, my dudes.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: It is Wednesday, my dudes.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: Um, but has there ever been a point in your life where you would have, you know, just like fuck it, I'm gonna give it a shot?
17:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, probably when I was younger.
17:29
SPEAKER_03: Because I was real fucking dumb and also not well off.
17:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: All right.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: All right.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, and do you think you'd win?
17:40
unknown: No.
17:41
SPEAKER_02: How far would you get?
17:42
SPEAKER_02: Because you you had you had the uh what's the name of that game?
17:45
SPEAKER_02: Uh the first game.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: Red light, green light.
17:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you have the red light, green light, and then if I had caught on by the time, you know, because there are a lot of people who simply died because they're like, wait, what the fuck is actually going on right now?
17:57
SPEAKER_03: That could have been me.
17:59
SPEAKER_03: Uh, if I managed to get past that point, I'd probably for sure die on like the partner one.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: All right.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: All right, all right.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, James, what about you?
18:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, would you do it?
18:12
SPEAKER_02: Squid Games.
18:13
SPEAKER_02: Was there a point when you would have done it?
18:15
SPEAKER_07: I wouldn't do it now.
18:17
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, Mr.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: 10,000 in the bank account.
18:19
SPEAKER_02: It's a terrible way to start a Squid Games episode.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm in the block, everybody.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Come to high and jive for the witty juxtapositions.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:30
SPEAKER_07: We're doing just fine.
18:33
SPEAKER_07: I uh but let's let's imagine myself in a position where I am deeply in debt.
18:38
SPEAKER_07: Um no, because there's a chance I'd lose my wife, you know.
18:43
SPEAKER_07: Uh I wouldn't have the people in my life or the connections in my life anymore.
18:47
SPEAKER_07: Maybe back when I felt less connected to the people in my life.
18:52
SPEAKER_07: Um perhaps then I would have.
18:55
SPEAKER_07: But I've always been incredibly afraid of death.
19:00
SPEAKER_07: No, like there's some people who are like kind of fearless, you know.
19:04
SPEAKER_07: Deathophobia.
19:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but like I used to have like really severe existential crises that led to panic attacks, just thinking about the emptiness of death.
19:17
SPEAKER_07: And uh and so I'm I'm still very risk averse.
19:21
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
19:21
SPEAKER_07: Well, thanks to denial, I'm immortal.
19:24
SPEAKER_07: That's great.
19:32
SPEAKER_07: Uh but yeah, so that's kind of where I am right now.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: Um right now, hell.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: I might even still give it a shot.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: It's hard to say.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, because I I was watching that initial episode there, and like what you were talking about, where they're all freaking the fuck out over like gunshots and wait a second, um, something crazy's happening here.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I was I was trying to do some kind of self-inventory as that was going on, and I feel like I would catch on pretty quickly, and just my my intelligence would override my flight mechanism, and I'd be still as fuck.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, even to the like because of the point where he was still for too long.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: Um I might have to get over that a little bit, but I think I'd I'd be able to pull it off a little bit.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: I haven't played red light, green light in I don't know how fucking long, but uh I'm a little out of practice.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: But um, but no, I mean right now, you know, we were just talking, you know, things are on the up.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't I'm not really looking to get shot by red light, green light robot.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, but right now no.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: I I would not, you know.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: I got a new mattress coming.
20:45
SPEAKER_02: And you know, I and that's a commitment I just can't walk away from right now.
20:51
SPEAKER_07: All you really need is a little sleep.
20:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, but uh there's definitely been times, more than one, where it wouldn't have even been a question, like, yep, let's do this.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: Um the only thing I would say is different.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: That's also true.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: But the only thing I would say would be different is when you know, in the beginning, where as long as majority votes to leave, I would vote to leave just because I can't force people to be here.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: That's ridiculous.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: And I was really happy that the old guy, you know, he he was a good dude, and I knew he was gonna say it's time to go, even though he, of all people, was like, I don't really give a shit.
21:28
SPEAKER_07: He wasn't a good dude.
21:29
SPEAKER_07: He was a bad dude.
21:30
SPEAKER_07: Well, in that first ten minutes where you thought he was.
21:33
SPEAKER_07: He's a bad man.
21:34
SPEAKER_02: He had me for a while, yeah.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: And then I was like, hold up.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: And then at the end, I was like, Oh hell no.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, well then he's like a you know, a race.
21:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the it should have been a clue when he's giggling and having a good time in red light, green light.
21:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, but they they the writing on it was so good that you thought it's just because you know he's at the end of his rope.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: He's you know, he's just accepted that he's gonna die.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, no, he's a sociopath.
21:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he's uh this guy's fucked up.
21:57
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he's more fucked up than another than the other people.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:01
SPEAKER_02: Which was that that was a pretty genius move there.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: But uh oh uh so uh Cher, any final thoughts?
22:06
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, probably not gonna let some some dude slap me up in the subway.
22:13
SPEAKER_07: I would I would do that.
22:16
SPEAKER_07: That one I would definitely do.
22:17
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I mean he walked away with a decent amount of cake.
22:19
SPEAKER_07: That one's very, very minimal.
22:21
SPEAKER_07: He's just gonna slap me up.
22:22
SPEAKER_07: I got a pretty strong face.
22:25
SPEAKER_07: My face is pretty has has stood out to a bunch of punishments.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: James him home one night from a subway looking like shoe leather.
22:33
SPEAKER_03: Like, where the fuck did you find a subway?
22:35
SPEAKER_03: I got all this money.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: It's the new uh Elon Musk tunnel.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Where rich people just slap you.
22:46
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
22:47
SPEAKER_03: Smells great.
22:49
SPEAKER_03: That's why you don't open the boot on these tests.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: Um final thoughts, I'm sorry.
22:56
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, I'm not gonna no no thanks.
22:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna pass this time.
22:59
unknown: Okay.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: And James, what vote you uh uh yeah, pass.
23:03
SPEAKER_07: And also I don't think I'd win.
23:05
SPEAKER_07: We did you didn't say if you thought I thought you'd win.
23:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, gotcha.
23:08
SPEAKER_07: But uh I no, I don't think I'd win because part of it's luck.
23:10
SPEAKER_07: I mean, uh, you know, if you go half if you end up going first in that walking over the glass thing, uh, you're kind of fucked.
23:17
unknown: Yeah.
23:18
SPEAKER_07: You're you're straight up fucked.
23:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
23:20
SPEAKER_07: Um so like I don't think I'd win.
23:23
SPEAKER_07: I think the probability of me winning would be incredibly low.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, no, I mean if the if the whole thing was fucking red light, green light, and like red rover and shit like that, I I'd I'd go in there and make my attempt.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: Physical skill.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if I could just use dexterity and you know, bouncing around a little bit.
23:40
SPEAKER_07: But then you just have highly trained athletes competing.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah for this problem.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, the highly trained athletes, luckily, they aren't dealing with the problems I am.
23:49
SPEAKER_07: And you know that the betters would like try to get they'd try to plant people.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:55
SPEAKER_07: They'd try to plant the the athletes.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, and and again, right now, no, I don't think I'd do it.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: Um when it comes to those just the chance ones, I mean, who knows?
24:07
SPEAKER_02: I like to it's too crazy.
24:08
SPEAKER_07: I'm too risk-averse.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, but there was definitely been times when I yeah, I would have.
24:12
SPEAKER_07: I mean, for sure.
24:13
SPEAKER_07: Do you think you'd what do you think like when you think of the story, do you win it?
24:18
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, yeah, I think because it would because I mean at the time, the root one of the reasons I would do it is just because I, you know, felt completely, you know, within the terms of this narrative, you know, when I write the memoirs, I felt completely cursed.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: And part of the curse would be continuing on and all right, out you go again.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Money doesn't solve things.
24:38
SPEAKER_07: You're a main character.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: So that's how I feel right there.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, uh everyone's a main character to themselves, you know.
24:46
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, true.
24:48
SPEAKER_07: I try not to I try to avoid that.
24:50
SPEAKER_07: I'm not great at it, like all the time I think myself as the main character, but like I think I try to avoid it.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I I don't think that was really a way for me to avoid because I mean I'm riding cockpit right here, so all I do is I just try and be a main character with some empathy.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: As much empathy as I can have.
25:09
SPEAKER_07: That's what I mean, is like trying to be aware that I consider I consider myself a main character inherently.
25:16
SPEAKER_07: Uh but my but there are a whole bunch of different perspectives out there that are equal to mine.
25:21
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: No, and see, there was a just before I came here tonight, I was watching uh a movie called The Liar.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: The Lie.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: The Lie.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: It was in 2020.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's on Amazon Prime.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: Have you guys seen it?
25:33
SPEAKER_06: No.
25:33
SPEAKER_06: No.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: So basically, the intro premise is a dude is a divorced couple, their younger teenage daughter goes like they switch hands and they pick up her friend, the teenage daughter's friend, on the side of the road.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: They have to stop off to pee.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: They go into the forest, the dad's waiting like 20 minutes.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: He goes in there, finds his daughter crying and freaking out.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: She confesses that pushed the other girl over the bridge.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: The girl died, and the parents decide they're gonna try and cover this shit up.
26:07
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
26:07
SPEAKER_07: So a real Brian Laundrie, Gabby Padito kind of thing.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm watching this with the brand new wife, and she's like, What would you do with our child?
26:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'm gonna call the police immediately because that girl might still be under the water somewhere.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: And you know, her argument is like you're gonna send our child to jail.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, if my daughter's just shoving other women off bridges, she needs help.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I'm not gonna be able to supply that for her.
26:32
SPEAKER_02: Second, that girl might still be alive, and I'm not the main character, my daughter's not the main character.
26:38
SPEAKER_02: That girl has parents just like our girl has parents.
26:41
SPEAKER_07: And that girl's the main character right now.
26:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, real interesting shit happening to her.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so like I'm I'm gonna call the police immediately.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, worst case, my 15-year-old daughter has a second degree charge, you know, gets moved down, she gets the help she needs.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, presumably we're in a European country at this point.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um but yeah, but yeah, but then there's a huge twist, and I look at her, I'm like, heh heh heh heh.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: My movie would have been 10 minutes long.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: You'd be putting up with all this bullshit.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, but anyway, anyway.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, so there we have it.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: We wouldn't really do the Squid Games thing.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: So it's time to move into the second part of the podcast.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: It's time for a fight, but before we get into it, it's time for one more hit, one more shot.
27:26
SPEAKER_07: You're gonna have to pour mine after you take yours because I I don't know where the other shotclasses are.
27:32
SPEAKER_07: My office is a mess compared to normal when it is also a terrible mess.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, this one goes on to our competitors this week.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Happy Thanksgiving.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: This one is Paul Atreides versus the king of all Thanksgiving dishes, big bird.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's right.
27:59
SPEAKER_07: There you are.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: Cookie punch is a very um go to space strain for me.
28:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't know how you feel about it.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: That's a good thing when you see, see, what's that?
28:16
SPEAKER_02: Like something about it, man.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:23
SPEAKER_07: It says Look, you motherfucker, why would you do that to us?
28:27
SPEAKER_02: It says cut with glacier-fed spring water.
28:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, god.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: Distilled from the finest northern grain.
28:34
SPEAKER_07: Some of it, I think that glacier is made of dinosaur pists because jet fuel something.
28:42
SPEAKER_03: But it still sounds pretty rad, right?
28:45
SPEAKER_07: Cut with dinosaur pists.
28:47
SPEAKER_03: Pendleton whiskey.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: We'll get a cease and desist eventually.
28:52
SPEAKER_07: Please.
28:53
SPEAKER_07: Please we'll frame it.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh, frame that cease and desist.
28:56
SPEAKER_07: Um, what was I gonna say?
28:58
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, I could never mind.
29:00
SPEAKER_07: Let's go for it.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: We'll just claim parody.
29:02
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
29:03
SPEAKER_07: Or satire.
29:04
SPEAKER_07: I'll pay it.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: With that$10,000.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: Pendleton, you might change your mind when I hand you$10,000.
29:19
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna I'm gonna have to owe some interest for a while on the other thing.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: All right, so how this works on high and dry, we have our fighters, they enter into a three-round contest.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: Round one, the characters, the characters step into a legally distinct fight club bar in the bottom of an Applebee.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: So legally distinct applebees.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: Applewasps.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: And they go down into the basement and they have a legally distinct Brad Pitt played by Val Kilmer, stuffing himself into leather pants, and the two characters punch it out, just punch for punch.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: We go figured it out that way.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: Um they get nothing.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Round two, we zoom out into a city view where the characters now have 24 hours to just kill the other one, and they could use whatever they want to use.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: And then we have round three, which is the same as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: So, entering into round one, we've just gone down into apple wasps, the legally distinct Applebee's.
30:21
SPEAKER_07: Thank you for for going through the whole episode.
30:24
SPEAKER_07: I'd forgotten.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: We have to get back to it.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: And I need to change Apple too.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: So I guess like Plum Wasp.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: Plum Wasp.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: And uh they head on downstairs.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, Val Kilmer is reading the rules.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, Cher and Carl Urban have been escorted on a giant timeless sandworm.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: We're seated behind them in the box seats.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: We're watching these two characters start to stretch.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, we have Paul Atreides of the Dune series.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, he's shadow boxing in the corner.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, across the way, a eight-foot-tall anthropomorphic bird who only wants him to get vaccinated is doing the same.
31:03
SPEAKER_07: Wants to teach him how to spell, too.
31:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and a spell.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, so A is for ass kicking.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: So uh Val Kilmer has started the fight.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: Our characters are now moving in on each other.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, here we go.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: Round one.
31:22
SPEAKER_02: Share a guest first.
31:24
SPEAKER_02: How do you think this is gonna play out?
31:27
SPEAKER_03: Well, I think obviously Big Bird is gonna kill him with kindness.
31:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, he does have a lot of muscle mass, you know, even though his bones are hollow, he's still a pretty meaty-looking bird.
31:41
SPEAKER_03: So, pound for pound, he might be a better competitor this time around, even with Paul's fighting skills.
31:51
SPEAKER_03: If he has nothing else like uh spice or weapons, no spice.
31:57
SPEAKER_07: So uh do we just pure Paul?
31:59
SPEAKER_07: Are we taking Paul at his uh well?
32:01
SPEAKER_02: We always take these characters at their best.
32:03
SPEAKER_07: Oh, we take them at their best?
32:04
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, well, so there's stuff you don't know.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, like Paul quickly descends.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he only has like five minutes at the end of the first book.
32:11
SPEAKER_07: That that's the five minutes he gets.
32:13
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
32:14
SPEAKER_07: Yep, yep, yep.
32:15
SPEAKER_07: Um, so that Paul, so Paul, in this five minutes later in the story, uh he has the power to see the entire entirety of human history and the future of his life as it progresses.
32:36
SPEAKER_07: He can kind of see himself walking through the future.
32:40
SPEAKER_07: So it's a pretty pretty powerful.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: So he's gonna see himself get his ass whipped by a Johnny Bird.
32:47
SPEAKER_07: That's essentially what's gonna happen because he is later paralyzed by his knowledge of these possible paths.
32:54
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
32:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
32:55
SPEAKER_07: Uh, and that's what he's gonna see.
32:57
SPEAKER_07: He's just gonna get whipped to death by Big Bird a thousand different ways.
33:03
SPEAKER_07: I'm the golden path, bro.
33:07
SPEAKER_02: I I see.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: So remember uh the first Sherlock Holmes where they made Sherlock a fighter because he had that ability.
33:14
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
33:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, I see Paul doing that.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh the bird is gonna come in from the left, he's gonna stomp on my groin.
33:20
unknown: Uh-oh.
33:21
SPEAKER_07: Uh-oh.
33:21
SPEAKER_07: Another one.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna turn left.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna peck out my fucking eye.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: I just see that happening.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: But so Cher, what do you think's gonna go down?
33:28
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna go down.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: Wait, so are we second round or so first?
33:33
SPEAKER_01: Still first round.
33:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I think Big Bird's got Big Bird.
33:36
SPEAKER_03: Big Bird has got this one still.
33:39
SPEAKER_07: He's a giant fucking bird.
33:41
SPEAKER_03: I I think he's just got the weight advantage.
33:44
SPEAKER_07: So here's the thing.
33:45
SPEAKER_03: He's so agile too, and and uh nothing gets him down, you know.
33:49
SPEAKER_03: He just keeps going, he's gonna keep going until he succeeds.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's it's gonna be that's like so for the people who just whose only exposure to the series was the new Dune movie, I see that that duel.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: Like at that point where you were at like the apex of confusion watching this thing, and they're in the middle of the duel, and instead of the guy coming at him, his champion is just a giant fucking ostrich.
34:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
34:15
SPEAKER_06: Whoa! Jesus Christ.
34:22
SPEAKER_07: But he doesn't have his knives.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
34:25
SPEAKER_07: He doesn't have his knives or a shield or anything.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's Paul without the knife, without the shield, against a giant fucking ostrich.
34:32
SPEAKER_07: But here's the thing, at his maximum power, he ends up having like full conversations with people and like moving through his life while blind.
34:42
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
34:42
SPEAKER_07: Because he's because he can see the future so clearly that he can see his environment with while being blind.
34:50
SPEAKER_07: Like he's like incredibly powerful in that way.
34:54
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
34:55
SPEAKER_07: Um does that mean he can defeat Big Bird?
34:59
SPEAKER_07: I think so in this first round.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, the the only thing I would say is like thematically, Big Bird can't be killed violently.
35:08
SPEAKER_07: There's been a lot of crashes and then gotten up with a thing around his neck.
35:14
SPEAKER_07: Like a tire.
35:15
SPEAKER_07: That happens a lot.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: But I mean he doesn't get any stuff, so he couldn't come up with stuff around him to indicate that he's been in a crash, so it would just be fucking murder.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, from I I think um hard to say.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, well, I I think Okay, Paul doesn't have anywhere to run.
35:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Paul doesn't have anywhere to run, and fucking Big Bird, he's got a wingspan on him.
35:41
SPEAKER_07: Paul sure during that point in the story, Paul refused to kill anyone.
35:45
SPEAKER_07: Like he was like, I'm not killing anyone.
35:47
SPEAKER_07: He's like, I he refuses to act once he becomes that powerful.
35:51
SPEAKER_07: That's like his downfall.
35:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, I I think though, just that in this in this opening here where neither of them are really could fall back on their themes, really.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: I I think that Paul's just sort of you know prenatural cognitive abilities are gonna kind of give him a slight edge.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, can a 17-year-old boy strangle Big Bird, though?
36:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
36:17
SPEAKER_07: He's not always 17.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, at his strongest would probably, I guess, be when he defeats the Emperor.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know how old he is at that point.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: I got no fucking idea.
36:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh well we'll share uh final thoughts on a vote.
36:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, until I don't have a vote yet.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: Um those are my thoughts.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: Those are my thoughts.
36:36
SPEAKER_02: I I think uh well, I think right now, just off the cuff, I I think Paul's gonna win.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: I think I think that uh man will conquer based man with you know supernatural Anunnaki style abilities will conquer giant reading bird.
36:53
SPEAKER_07: Mammals will conquer aviants always.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: If we look at history, you know.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: I just love the idea of a space messiah being tortured by these visions of just being fucking wailed on.
37:08
SPEAKER_03: I'm just trying to conquer, and I have to stick with that vision.
37:13
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
37:13
SPEAKER_07: I do too.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: I do too.
37:15
SPEAKER_07: I I can't I get into the just because the visual Yeah, the visual is just too powerful.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: And I Paul has spent a lot of time, you know.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't think once has Duncan Idaho gone, today you will fight this giant fucking ostrich.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: And I think Paul's just gonna be out of his element, you know, and every time he's about to hit Big Bird, he starts slowing down just because he's trained to break shields.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: And Big Bird's just Wait your turn.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he teaches him some fucking manners.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: All right, well, so there you have it.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: Round one goes to Big Bird of Sesame Street.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: So moving on to round two, we now zoom out into a city view.
38:00
SPEAKER_02: Um these characters have now received a manila envelope underneath their apartment doors.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: We have Paul getting one underneath his either sand palace or whatever palace he's living in at the time, and Big Bird under his section five housing.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: And uh doesn't come up a lot in the show.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: And uh they now know that they have 24 hours to kill the other one.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: How's it gonna go down?
38:22
SPEAKER_02: Guess first, Cheryl, what do you think?
38:24
SPEAKER_03: I think um I think that uh Paul's probably got this one.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: Um he gets a huge advantage with the weapons, and uh he's gonna carve up that bird.
38:36
SPEAKER_03: Thanksgiving style.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: Thanksgiving style.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
38:43
SPEAKER_03: Alright, that's the show.
38:44
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna stuff you, motherfucker.
38:47
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38:53
SPEAKER_02: James, what do you think is gonna be?
38:55
SPEAKER_07: Apparently that's what's happening.
38:57
SPEAKER_07: Um I think in this case, Paul he has knives and stuff.
39:04
SPEAKER_07: And guns.
39:05
SPEAKER_07: And I guess Big Bird could also have a big bird to buy one.
39:08
SPEAKER_07: But I don't think Big Bird would I don't think Big Bird knows how to use a gun.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, are you ready for the like alright?
39:14
SPEAKER_07: So here's my um your big brain interpretation of the spite.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, here's my um what what uh my bold uh here's my bold prediction.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: It's the dumbest fucking shit I've probably ever said.
39:29
SPEAKER_02: So I think that Big Bird is gonna skewer Paul with a vaccine.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: This is gonna give Paul autism.
39:37
SPEAKER_02: The autism is gonna shut off Paul's ability to see into the future.
39:41
SPEAKER_07: The slow needle pierces the shield.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: And he gives Paul a COVID vaccine and it causes headaches and all that kind of stuff.
39:50
SPEAKER_07: He's dead within two years.
39:51
SPEAKER_07: And he's dead within two years.
39:53
SPEAKER_03: But at least he got 5G before all that happened.
39:57
SPEAKER_07: Microchips are so convenient.
39:59
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
40:00
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
40:00
SPEAKER_07: I want to make it clear that we're making fun of the city.
40:02
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we are making fun of you.
40:04
SPEAKER_07: Uh you need to get vaccinated.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: Joe Rogan is fucking stupid.
40:08
SPEAKER_07: Why would you take advice from an ex MMA commentator?
40:12
SPEAKER_07: Slash FearFactor.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: Slash Fear Factor.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: Slash man show host.
40:18
SPEAKER_02: I just don't get it.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: I just don't get the progression of terrible people.
40:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean you start a website to rate women at your college, and all of a sudden you're fucking changing the world.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: You fucking do Fear Factor, and all of a sudden you're changed.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, what the hell?
40:32
SPEAKER_02: How do you become successful in this world?
40:35
SPEAKER_07: How does a good person get ahead?
40:37
SPEAKER_07: I don't think it happens.
40:38
SPEAKER_07: I think the people who get ahead are real pieces of shit.
40:41
SPEAKER_07: Garbage get ahead.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:46
SPEAKER_07: There's an incentive to be a piece of shit to your competition.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: But the then the so the other side of it, let's be real.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: Paul is a fascist.
40:55
SPEAKER_07: No, his kid's a fashion.
40:57
SPEAKER_07: I don't think Paul's a fascist.
40:58
SPEAKER_07: I think it's more of his kids a fascist.
41:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, like, it's hard to uh so you're right, you're right.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, eventually Paul turns away from it all.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: He becomes the blind messiah, he goes out into the desert, he completely turns it aside.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: So you're right, you're right.
41:11
SPEAKER_07: So people are doing things in his name that he doesn't agree with.
41:14
SPEAKER_07: He's just a real pansy about fucking Democrats.
41:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he turns into the fucking Democratic Party.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: And yeah.
41:22
SPEAKER_02: Um some steps and tries to talk him out of it.
41:26
SPEAKER_07: He was pretty representative of liber of liberalism.
41:29
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: And that uh you got some great ideas as far as you know human decency.
41:37
SPEAKER_02: But unwilling to impact.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you don't fucking say anything.
41:39
SPEAKER_07: Um they they present like this uh false uh opposition.
41:47
SPEAKER_07: It's like a they present a weak opposition.
41:49
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
41:51
SPEAKER_07: Why is that such a so intrinsically part of their nature?
41:54
SPEAKER_07: Uh like it ha it's what happened in Germany too.
41:58
SPEAKER_07: Is the liberals were just like no, we're not gonna like what kind of opposition do you want us to do?
42:04
SPEAKER_07: More than that, what you're doing.
42:06
SPEAKER_07: Can you do more?
42:06
SPEAKER_07: Jesus Christ.
42:07
SPEAKER_07: Anything more.
42:08
SPEAKER_06: Anything for us to do things.
42:11
SPEAKER_07: We don't do things, we respond to things.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: We're reactionary.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: So fucked up.
42:18
SPEAKER_02: Alright, but anyway, anyway.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: Welcome to this.
42:21
SPEAKER_03: Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so if if Paul was a fascist, um, I I would say that Paul would just basically walk himself into a brick wall when it comes to Big Bird because so fucking dumb.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: But um because he's not, and you're right.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: Um I I think that Paul worst case scenario, he gets one of those fucking grasshopper ships and just blows Big Bird straight to hell.
42:44
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
42:46
SPEAKER_07: I kind of wanted to give it to Big Bird because Big Bird is like famously, Big Bird operates a shit ton of vehicles.
42:54
SPEAKER_07: Like Big Bird, Big Bird is like a very famous thing.
42:57
SPEAKER_07: But it's like a tractor to show you how people live, you know?
43:00
SPEAKER_07: It's not like I bet I bet if Big Bird hopped to one of those spaceships, he'd be an ace.
43:06
SPEAKER_07: I bet it.
43:06
SPEAKER_07: I bet you just naturally he'd be an ace.
43:09
SPEAKER_02: Probably.
43:10
SPEAKER_07: But he does crash things a lot, too.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:13
SPEAKER_02: Or it'll be the first time we see Big Bird fly with Dune style CGI.
43:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
43:19
SPEAKER_02: And there's like a chase scene where Big Bird's whipping through rocks and canyons and Paul's trying to get him.
43:25
SPEAKER_02: Um but I think just at the end, because Big Bird can't return fire.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh just Big Bird can't return fire.
43:32
SPEAKER_02: So uh yeah, I'd give it to Paul.
43:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, Shara, uh, final thoughts on the boat.
43:36
SPEAKER_03: I think this one's gotta go to Paul.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think the weaponry is just too powerful for Big Bird at this point.
43:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, me too.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: Same.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: All right, across the board.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: So round one went to Big Bird.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: Round two is now going to Paul Atreides.
43:50
SPEAKER_02: So moving into round three, it's the same thing as round two.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: We're in that city view.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: They both got a manila envelope saying, hey, go kill the other one.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: You have 24 hours.
43:57
SPEAKER_02: But this time, they get to pick up the phone, they get to call a friend.
44:02
SPEAKER_02: Sarah, guests first.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: Who are they bringing?
44:05
SPEAKER_02: What happens?
44:06
SPEAKER_02: Take us there.
44:07
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
44:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, since I'm not as deep into the Dune universe as you all uh the Duniverse.
44:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh my yeah a thousand apologies.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: Excuse you.
44:19
SPEAKER_03: I would say probably Dunkin' Idaho is very strong.
44:22
SPEAKER_03: That's a great idea.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
44:23
SPEAKER_03: I would say very strong fighter.
44:27
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
44:28
SPEAKER_07: Loyal.
44:29
SPEAKER_07: Very loyal.
44:29
SPEAKER_07: Incredibly loyal.
44:30
SPEAKER_07: Loyal for something like 3,000 years.
44:33
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, for hundreds of iterations of Dunkin' or thousands even.
44:38
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
44:38
SPEAKER_07: Thousands of Dunkin' Idahoes.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:41
SPEAKER_07: He's been incredibly loyal.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: Dude, fucking uh Jason Mamoa, he picked the right role.
44:46
SPEAKER_07: They they gave they gave him a great role, but here's the problem.
44:49
SPEAKER_07: Like we just said, like once you get to that fourth movie, uh when they're making when they're spitting out Dunkin' Idaho clones across time, yeah.
44:58
SPEAKER_07: How the fuck is Jason Momoa gonna look exactly like he does in the first movie?
45:02
SPEAKER_07: That's not how time works.
45:04
SPEAKER_07: You you should have done something better with Dunkin' Idaho.
45:08
SPEAKER_07: Made him like completely AI face, not associated with any actor.
45:12
SPEAKER_03: So I think Marvel already does something like where they have like a full CGI profile of like all of the superheroes.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: I I imagine they'll do something like that.
45:21
SPEAKER_07: It's not gonna be the same.
45:23
SPEAKER_07: It's not gonna be his face.
45:24
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we'll say something wrong.
45:28
SPEAKER_07: Um but like but spoiler alert, Duncan Idaho comes back a thousand times with a vengeance.
45:37
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
45:37
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep, yep.
45:39
SPEAKER_03: And you don't die.
45:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: He made a lady come by watching him climb a mountainside.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: It's almost like the book was written by a dude.
45:52
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, a very, very horny dude.
45:54
SPEAKER_07: Well, um, so well, Sarah, what do you think?
45:56
SPEAKER_02: So we right now on the Paul Trade side, we have Duncan Idaho.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: Solid pick.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: Makes most sense.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: Great pick.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: Maybe fucking Gurney.
46:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: But uh who do you think's a big boy?
46:06
SPEAKER_07: She got the voice.
46:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'd bring his mom.
46:09
SPEAKER_03: So oh, that's true.
46:10
SPEAKER_03: The voice would be very useful in so many situations.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
46:14
SPEAKER_03: But he started to learn it also, so I am assuming he might get better at it.
46:19
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
46:19
SPEAKER_07: At the height of his power, he doesn't fucking use it.
46:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's got a power, he's got two powerful allies he could choose from and probably do pretty well.
46:28
SPEAKER_03: Dude, who would who would who would Big Rudd even bring?
46:31
SPEAKER_03: Snuff Lophagus.
46:32
SPEAKER_03: I have some thoughts.
46:33
SPEAKER_03: So I think maybe the count, I think maybe what you would bring in a vampire.
46:38
SPEAKER_03: If I do vampire, you just turn into a felt vampire that is the numbers.
46:44
SPEAKER_06: And at that point, this is my nightmare.
46:48
SPEAKER_06: You're a puppet! My kid's not thinking about numbers.
46:53
SPEAKER_06: And it's only counting them.
46:55
SPEAKER_06: I don't get to do any math or anything.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: The cow goes, you'll learn with time.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: Come.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: That's a great pick.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: Solid pick.
47:09
SPEAKER_03: I thought also maybe um, what's the one that lives in the Oscar LeGroud?
47:12
SPEAKER_03: She could just like make everybody want to kill themselves.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: The Atreides are famously depressed.
47:21
SPEAKER_01: Depressed.
47:22
SPEAKER_03: Incredibly depressed.
47:23
SPEAKER_03: Won't take a lot of convincing.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: And I don't know why.
47:27
SPEAKER_02: Like you guys have fucking everything.
47:29
SPEAKER_07: Very depressed.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the fucking oh yeah.
47:33
SPEAKER_02: The grouch might be the might be dangerous.
47:37
SPEAKER_07: Um I was thinking the goblin king.
47:41
SPEAKER_07: Because hence aren't isn't Sesame Street Henson or no?
47:45
SPEAKER_02: No, the um uh the the the Muppets are hence in Sesame Street.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: They might be.
47:58
SPEAKER_07: I guess they're their own class of puppet.
48:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're I'm pretty sure they're their own thing, but uh's gotta stick together, you know what I'm saying?
48:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so he might be able to extend an olive branch to the um but uh oh wait a minute.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: We'll cut this thing.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: So Jim Henson worked as a producer on Sesame Street.
48:21
SPEAKER_02: So I say that that's a big enough bridge to pull in David Bowie.
48:26
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
48:27
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
48:28
SPEAKER_02: So if we want to goblin Jennifer Connolly, you can bring it in.
48:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:33
SPEAKER_07: You can either have a magical goblin or a 13-year-old girl.
48:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, but um, dude, Duncan Idaho would be so thrown off by having that bulge in the room.
48:45
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
48:46
SPEAKER_02: David Bowie's David Bowie's fucking bulge going on.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: The Goblin King specifically.
48:51
SPEAKER_07: They would have a trying, they would have like a trying to make each other come with like by flexing uh battle.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: That'd be a pretty amazing they both blow a testicle and pass out.
49:08
SPEAKER_07: They become great friends.
49:09
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
49:10
SPEAKER_07: They're uh they'd be like, fuck these guys.
49:13
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, what are we doing here?
49:14
SPEAKER_07: We're best friends, I think.
49:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: Are we best friends?
49:21
SPEAKER_03: Never met anybody who could bust an outline.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: Just blows out.
49:26
SPEAKER_00: David Bowie's got those fucking gray pants, and you could see any liquid.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh I would say so.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: The only other option I have here, first, uh if I was Paul, I'd bring Jessica.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, famous mama's boy now.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: True.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, and um I love the actress who portrays the newest iteration of Jessica.
49:51
SPEAKER_02: Um I would say that now that Big Bird has become an anti-fascist icon, yeah, he gets to bring Gritty of the Philadelphia Flyers.
50:04
SPEAKER_07: That's pretty uh that's pretty intense.
50:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
50:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I I think that um you know because Gritty would see where this whole Atreides nonsense is headed.
50:17
unknown: Yeah.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, fascies get the bashies and I think Paul would get a hockey stick to the face.
50:24
SPEAKER_07: Anti-fascists don't like liberals either.
50:26
SPEAKER_02: No, yeah.
50:27
SPEAKER_07: They hate they hate the right, obviously.
50:29
SPEAKER_07: The right's terrible, they're the worst.
50:31
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
50:31
SPEAKER_07: But they also hate the ineffectual liberals as well.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:35
SPEAKER_02: And so Grady would have no problem stomping a skate on fucking Paul.
50:43
SPEAKER_03: Smacking a couple pucks at him.
50:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, but those are my thoughts.
50:47
SPEAKER_02: So, Sherra, back to you.
50:49
SPEAKER_02: We need your final thoughts on what's gonna happen and your your vote.
50:53
SPEAKER_03: This is such a strong pool of um of partners to bring in.
50:58
SPEAKER_03: It really uh really makes you think.
51:05
SPEAKER_07: Big bird knows how to wear earplugs.
51:07
SPEAKER_07: He definitely did it in one episode.
51:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
51:10
SPEAKER_03: Safety first.
51:11
SPEAKER_07: He's plugged his ears, so that rules out Jessica's power.
51:16
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
51:17
SPEAKER_03: I think the the whole like cartoon absurdity that we've talked about in the past also applies to child child children.
51:24
SPEAKER_02: For sure, for sure.
51:25
SPEAKER_02: Because especially in this round, they they're they have a lot of strong themes coming in.
51:30
SPEAKER_02: And Paul's got a theme where it's totally okay if he dies, tragically.
51:34
SPEAKER_02: Big bird, not so much.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: Fair.
51:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I didn't think this is how it works, but um, I think Big Bird has got an advantage.
51:44
SPEAKER_03: And I uh I'm gonna toot my own horn with the count.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: The count's a space.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: That's how he's gonna do it.
51:50
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I also I I honestly think for the winning combo, it would be Oscar.
51:53
SPEAKER_07: He'd pull, they would pull them into Sesame Street, and Oscar would be there being depressing, and because guests don't just stay on the show, they leave.
52:04
SPEAKER_07: Paul walks off screen and kills himself.
52:08
SPEAKER_07: I think that that's how it goes.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: The golden path is the streets of Sesame Street to Oscar the Grouch.
52:17
SPEAKER_07: This is my terrible destiny.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: He just knocks on the trash can, like, say what you gotta say.
52:25
SPEAKER_00: We both knew I was coming.
52:28
SPEAKER_03: Oscar the Grouch has been a grim reaper this entire time.
52:33
SPEAKER_03: The fall of the Atreides.
52:34
SPEAKER_07: He was planted there by the Benegesserit to kill Ball.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: Like this dude, famously emotional, famously has he's got a lot going on.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you could easily take him out.
52:50
SPEAKER_07: Suddenly Sesame Street ends the next episode because it was all just a Benegesserit uh flamboy to trap ball.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: And it works better than any of those little Beatle assassins ever could.
53:04
SPEAKER_07: Or get him to kill himself.
53:06
SPEAKER_07: Is there any way we can get him to kill himself?
53:09
SPEAKER_02: I I think so, you know, so the scene when um uh you know in the f in the new film, when their their home is being on there's another attack, uh Paul wakes up and there's just a trash can in the corner that wasn't there when he went to sleep.
53:24
SPEAKER_01: And like every and every time he looks away, it like hops closer to the Yeah, I think that's how he's gonna go.
53:37
SPEAKER_02: Before he gets into the ship, I I think that that that'll be it, you know.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: But I I think that just Big Bird can pull from a very a much stronger list of allies, you know, whether it's a fucking puppet vampire whose powers are hitherto unknown, um, whether it's the grouch, whether it's fucking the goblin king.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: Or or or if we want to stay within the realm of seeing the future and trying to stop fascism, Agra from the Dark Crystal.
54:06
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
54:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I think he's I think just Big Bird's gonna bring some seriously heavy hitters, and Grady's gonna come in and slam an ice skating.
54:17
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so that's my thoughts.
54:21
SPEAKER_00: And uh Big Bird goes, Did we know that guy?
54:26
SPEAKER_00: Saw you on Twitter.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: Well, then I think uh we're all in agreement then.
54:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:35
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much round one, round two, round three.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: All right, so it goes to Big Bird.
54:40
SPEAKER_02: Big Bird takes it two out of the three rounds.
54:43
SPEAKER_02: Congratulations, Mr.
54:45
SPEAKER_02: Bird.
54:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, there you have it, folks.
54:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I don't know how you feel about that one.
54:51
SPEAKER_07: I gotta say, Paul is uh a bit of a little bitch.
54:57
SPEAKER_07: Um little stupid husband.
55:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
55:01
SPEAKER_03: It's a testament to the power of education.
55:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
55:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, there you go.
55:07
SPEAKER_02: There, there it is.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: Paul did have a ton of that.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: Knowledge is power.
55:11
SPEAKER_02: I do not want to belittle you know what Paul was capable of.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: He Paul had a fuckload of privilege.
55:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:19
SPEAKER_02: A fuck load of privilege.
55:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:21
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's just Big Bird has been, you know, working on reading and writing and arithmetic since what, the 70s?
55:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: Um, he's got experience.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: He's but you know what I'm saying, people out there.
55:32
SPEAKER_07: Uh, you know, if you're pissed, uh, I don't know what to tell you.
55:34
SPEAKER_07: He d he doesn't feel that knowledge is a curse, unlike Paul, who feels like knowledge is a curse.
55:40
SPEAKER_07: Yeah instead, Big Bird is like, I'm gonna use knowledge and friendship to succeed because Big Bird has fought the long struggle to learn those lessons.
55:49
SPEAKER_07: Whereas Paul got all of the world's knowledge in it without well, I mean, he struggled.
55:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but he essentially got hit with a whole bunch of spice and then knew everything.
55:59
SPEAKER_07: And it's like, um, that's not the same thing.
56:01
SPEAKER_07: That's not the same thing.
56:02
SPEAKER_02: Everyone else who got hit with spice in that whole in his whole circle, they just basically had generations and generations of suffering.
56:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:09
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, here comes our chosen one, the rich kid.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
56:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's gotta be infuriating.
56:17
SPEAKER_07: Well, he didn't work out.
56:18
SPEAKER_07: Maybe his kid will be better.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
56:21
SPEAKER_02: Oops! Yeah, we'll try the next one.
56:24
SPEAKER_07: Oh, when's that gonna happen?
56:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh here comes our nepotism savior.
56:28
SPEAKER_02: There he is.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, you look at Avier Bodum as Stilgar in the new film, and you could just see in his eyes like, fuck.
56:36
SPEAKER_02: He's the chosen one, I guess.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, there you have it, folks.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, there was some we I well, so the three of us watched Dune Together, and I feel like we had some very mixed thoughts on it.
56:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh because you never read the film.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: Uh, the back of the DVD box.
56:56
SPEAKER_03: I read the shit out of the film.
56:57
SPEAKER_03: Subtitles the Lightpool.
57:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh but you had never read the uh you never read the novel.
57:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, you never saw the one from the 80s.
57:06
SPEAKER_03: Correct.
57:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:07
SPEAKER_02: Watch the one from the 80s high.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: It's a trip, man.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: Sting gets stabbed in the fucking throat.
57:12
SPEAKER_03: Sting is in it?
57:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:13
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I know nothing about this.
57:14
SPEAKER_03: I I know it exists, and that's about all I think.
57:16
SPEAKER_02: It is, it is, it is bizarre.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: It it is a weird fucking film.
57:21
SPEAKER_02: It from from moment one, you have the Emperor's daughter, she appears on screen.
57:27
SPEAKER_02: It's immediately weird because she's explaining to the world real, real quick.
57:31
SPEAKER_02: She starts to fade away.
57:32
SPEAKER_02: She fades back in, and she's like, I almost forgot.
57:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, it is it's wild, man.
57:40
SPEAKER_02: And then Stang shows up, and you got the blue-eyed bandits, and it it's it's a it's a weird fucking ride.
57:45
SPEAKER_02: Um the eyebrows, too.
57:47
SPEAKER_02: You'll see what I'm talking about.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: Treat yourselves.
57:50
SPEAKER_02: It's on Amazon Prime.
57:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, but what did you think of the new one?
57:54
SPEAKER_03: Um, I thought it was interesting.
57:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't know, y'all were talking over, and I was like, I didn't know any of this was happening.
58:01
SPEAKER_03: I could not have inferred that based on what they're showing me on this this movie.
58:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm waiting for the Snyder cut.
58:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's yeah.
58:07
SPEAKER_07: That's kind of how Ryan and I felt.
58:09
SPEAKER_07: Because like Cher just said, we were talking over the movie, like, what about this?
58:13
SPEAKER_07: What about this?
58:14
SPEAKER_07: And she's like, I would never have understood that.
58:16
SPEAKER_07: I mean, they didn't explain anything.
58:19
SPEAKER_07: They didn't explain holy shit.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: They they like no idea what a mentat is.
58:25
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no idea what a mentat is.
58:26
SPEAKER_07: Baron Harkinen is just some fat guy who likes power.
58:30
SPEAKER_07: He's not he's not the child rapist cannibal that we know him to be and shit.
58:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
58:36
SPEAKER_02: No, uh well, see, it was interesting because I I had mentioned just um that you know they're they're leaving out all of those things, and a person then commented saying that you know you would rather him be depicted as the evil homosexual.
58:52
SPEAKER_07: And like, well that's pedophilia is not homosexuality.
58:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and that's a very classic uh method used to attack homosexuality.
59:02
SPEAKER_02: And like definitely uh there was a time, I'm sure, when you know his character and everything like that, and they would intertwine the two.
59:10
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
59:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh today I feel though that I feel like we could tell the story without intertwining pedophilia and homosexuality.
59:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think we could look at him.
59:20
SPEAKER_07: If we're going to adapt uh uh a book like they did, they just adapted the book.
59:26
SPEAKER_07: They adapted away a whole bunch.
59:28
SPEAKER_07: And if they can adapt that way, why can't we adapt it to make him also terrible and not have the burdens of a of a dumb, misguided, hateful past attached?
59:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: No, they really just kind of brought him down.
59:42
SPEAKER_02: He was just a fat guy.
59:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, just fat baddie.
59:44
SPEAKER_02: Who was willing to do a little more than the Atreides were.
59:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
59:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, no, but but so it was but just so never having heard anything, seeing anything, you didn't mind the film, is alright?
59:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I enjoyed it.
59:57
SPEAKER_03: I thought the the visual effects were really cool.
59:59
SPEAKER_03: Um I thought the concept was cool.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess that's why we'll get a second one.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_07: I thought the space fights I thought that I thought the ships blown up and stuff was real boring.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_07: Um I I got real bored through that time.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_02: I just I I don't think the world's ready to sit down for a three-hour political discussion.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_07: That's what I wanted, though.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_07: That's what I wanted.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_07: That's why you read the book.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I really wanted to.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_04: Maybe they'll give you a pre.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_07: They could have done like Lord of the Rings was wildly popular and tackled a whole bunch of light text, and sure they missed some shit.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_02: But like the first half of the fucking movie was a dinner party.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_07: Tolkien Tolkien wrote a whole bunch about meals, just like Drake.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, it was like uh fucking Well because I mean back in the day, literature it was actually trying to explain to things that you couldn't just Google a picture of, you know.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_02: And so you'd have a book that discusses two ducks on a pond for five fucking pages, but it doesn't work now, but you know.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_07: But they like miss like core cut themes.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_07: They missed they didn't explain core themes.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_02: Mentats fucking using spice to travel through space.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_02: Imagine that.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_02: How uh uh uh I for Piotr, whatever the fuck his name is, was a mentat assassin, two things that shouldn't be, but he was just and this he was just kind of like some like shaking little bald guy.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_07: There was a whole side plot about how mentats, because mentats are supposed to be neutral, that they'd somehow made an evil mentat, and that was like a thing that had never happened in the world before, and it was a big old deal.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_02: And then he just that we just see him a couple times and then he dies of poison.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, and then that that their mentat, the Atreides mentat, no one knew he was a mentat.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_02: And he was the only dude to bring a parasol.
1:01:48
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1:02:20
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