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- 0:00Speaker 1: Communism. First of all, it's godless, it's an atheistic philosophy.
- 0:04Speaker 1: Mark said, so God is the problem, and it is
- 0:09Speaker 1: the worship of government, and the government with the promise
- 0:13Speaker 1: we will take care of you and more free stuff
- 0:18Speaker 1: for one thing. But they control everything. You talk about
- 0:22Speaker 1: controlling rent. In the Soviet Union, they controlled housing, They
- 0:26Speaker 1: controlled where every Soviet citizen lived, what apartment they lived in,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and they paid rent to the government. Of course, you
- 0:36Speaker 1: lived in that apartment until you were dead.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Ted Poe saw the threat of socialism than communism firsthand
- 0:42Speaker 2: in the Soviet Union, and he says it's creeping into
- 0:45Speaker 2: America too. Plus, following the sudden passing of Centator Lindsay Graham,
- 0:49Speaker 2: where does foreign policy go from here? Ted Poe weighs in,
- 0:53Speaker 2: right now, you got to see this. I didn't know
- 0:56Speaker 2: Lindsay Graham. I purposely, and I've said this on my show,
- 0:59Speaker 2: never invited am on because I felt that he was
- 1:01Speaker 2: a big time warhawk and I didn't want to go
- 1:04Speaker 2: back and forth with the guy who generally speaking, was
- 1:06Speaker 2: on the same side. I mean, he was out there
- 1:09Speaker 2: giving his opinions on Russia and on Iran and everything
- 1:11Speaker 2: else on his own but didn't. I didn't invite him on.
- 1:14Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it, maybe I should have.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Maybe I missed something there. I've got Ted Poe on.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Though Ted has been on. I think we just counted
- 1:20Speaker 2: at Oney three hundred and twenty six times and we
- 1:23Speaker 2: appreciate every single time.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Ted.
- 1:25Speaker 2: First of all, good to see you new Lindsay Graham, right.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Yes, I did. I worked with him when I was
- 1:30Speaker 1: in the House, he was in the Senate. I worked
- 1:33Speaker 1: with him on victims issues. He helped on the Senate
- 1:37Speaker 1: side get victims legislation passed, and I did on a
- 1:42Speaker 1: House side to protect crime victims in the United States.
- 1:47Speaker 1: And he was great. He worked on that, He worked
- 1:49Speaker 1: on everything, and everybody says he's easy to work with.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Well, everybody says he had a great sense of humor.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Did he lighten the room up when he came in.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Yes he did. He did. He had charisma, He was funny,
- 2:02Speaker 1: He didn't take life so seriously about himself, especially so
- 2:07Speaker 1: he was good. He was easy to work with, and
- 2:09Speaker 1: he worked with He could work with anybody. So I
- 2:13Speaker 1: liked him and he was good to work with.
- 2:16Speaker 2: I don't mean any insulted disrespect when I tell my
- 2:18Speaker 2: audience that I didn't invite him on. I didn't want
- 2:21Speaker 2: to argue with Lindsay Graham about why he wanted to
- 2:23Speaker 2: go to war with Putin and why he was so
- 2:25Speaker 2: fixated on Russia it seemed, and why he wanted to
- 2:28Speaker 2: spend more money on Ukraine and why he wanted to
- 2:30Speaker 2: go to war with Iran. I mean, there was something
- 2:32Speaker 2: about him when he came to military action where he
- 2:35Speaker 2: felt strongly about let's go get the bad guys off
- 2:38Speaker 2: the planet, even if there wasn't anything going on right
- 2:41Speaker 2: now that indicated we should get them off the planet.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Do you see where I'm coming from as an interviewer.
- 2:45Speaker 2: I didn't want to have that discussion because I knew
- 2:47Speaker 2: where he was in those issues and I didn't think
- 2:49Speaker 2: I was going to be able to change him. Did
- 2:51Speaker 2: you find him to be this sort of guy who
- 2:53Speaker 2: wanted to take out, wipe out anybody who was anti
- 2:55Speaker 2: freedom and liberty on the planet.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Yes, he never saw a WARRI didn't like. Remember his
- 3:01Speaker 1: background thirty years Air Force Reserves, and he had that
- 3:06Speaker 1: background of if we need to eliminate people who don't
- 3:11Speaker 1: like America and want to take our freedoms away, and
- 3:14Speaker 1: he wanted to carry it, in my opinion, to finish
- 3:17Speaker 1: them all, not to make deals with him, but finish
- 3:19Speaker 1: it off. So that's the way it was about Ukraine,
- 3:22Speaker 1: and was about the Iranian situation and other past US engagements.
- 3:30Speaker 2: How do you sort of square that as somebody in
- 3:33Speaker 2: the House of Representatives when you've got people in the House,
- 3:35Speaker 2: people in the Senate. Listen, you and I both believe
- 3:38Speaker 2: in freedom and liberty. We think that communism should be
- 3:40Speaker 2: stand out. But we're not out here, you know, indicating
- 3:43Speaker 2: we want to start a war every other day. So
- 3:45Speaker 2: how do you square that? Knowing that, yes, we should
- 3:47Speaker 2: take action if there's a direct threat to us or
- 3:50Speaker 2: our very close friends in a region, with people who say,
- 3:53Speaker 2: let's just go nuts and knock out anything and everything
- 3:56Speaker 2: that even looks or smells like communism, how do you
- 3:59Speaker 2: deal with that? Balance that?
- 4:01Speaker 1: Well, I balance it because we I think we have
- 4:05Speaker 1: to balance it. We have to, of course put America first,
- 4:08Speaker 1: but let's look realistically, if there's a threat to the
- 4:11Speaker 1: United States, then let's deal with it, yes, and then
- 4:14Speaker 1: and settle it, but not go out and just start conflicts.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I think we proved that, and because we never know
- 4:23Speaker 1: how to finish the war. It goes back to our
- 4:24Speaker 1: history after World War Two, we would get involved in
- 4:27Speaker 1: everybody else's war, and then we never knew how to
- 4:31Speaker 1: finish it. So we just stopped Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan,
- 4:37Speaker 1: and all of those other wars that the United States
- 4:41Speaker 1: has gotten in. We don't ever believe in, I would
- 4:43Speaker 1: say winning anything. We just wanted to end and so
- 4:48Speaker 1: I think we have to keep that in mind. Lindsey Graham,
- 4:51Speaker 1: none of that. Let's finish it all. Let's finish the war.
- 4:55Speaker 1: You know, Korea is a perfect example. We're still technically
- 4:59Speaker 1: the South Korea our career, is still at war with
- 5:01Speaker 1: each other, and we took South Korea's side, as we
- 5:03Speaker 1: are obligated to do. But they're just an armistice, really
- 5:08Speaker 1: just a cease fire between those two countries. So he
- 5:11Speaker 1: wanted to finish the job. In my opinion, wherever we
- 5:14Speaker 1: got in, Bob, let's finish it.
- 5:17Speaker 2: And I mean I'm with him on that. I'm just
- 5:19Speaker 2: not with him on let's go seek out Putin, Let's
- 5:21Speaker 2: go kill him because we can. Having said that, I'm
- 5:24Speaker 2: so glad you talked about the Korean War because that's
- 5:27Speaker 2: exactly right. There is still a war going on, and
- 5:30Speaker 2: nobody in this generation and maybe the previous generation even
- 5:32Speaker 2: knows that the Korean War is not over. There is
- 5:35Speaker 2: a ceasefire right now that has lasted what fifty years,
- 5:38Speaker 2: sixty years, something like that. So I mean, at some point,
- 5:41Speaker 2: because we didn't win in Afghanistan, we just left. We
- 5:43Speaker 2: didn't win in Iraq, we just sort of left and
- 5:45Speaker 2: Shia took over Iraq. So what do we do when
- 5:48Speaker 2: it comes to the operation right now with Iran? You
- 5:51Speaker 2: and I can probably agree that for forty seven years,
- 5:54Speaker 2: Iran has declared war on US and has declared war
- 5:57Speaker 2: on Israel. And President Trump said, how is the time,
- 6:01Speaker 2: Let's stop this threat. Let's let's give these people an
- 6:03Speaker 2: opportunity to get their country back. But tell I'll be
- 6:06Speaker 2: honest with you. I love Donald Trump. I've had him
- 6:07Speaker 2: on fifteen times. I think he's great. I think he's
- 6:09Speaker 2: the right guy at the right time. But he's saying
- 6:11Speaker 2: different things almost every day. This trade is opened, the
- 6:14Speaker 2: straight has closed. We've decimated them. They just attacked a ship.
- 6:17Speaker 2: They have they have no surface to air missiles. They
- 6:20Speaker 2: just killed twelve people in the Strait of her moves.
- 6:22Speaker 2: So what exactly is it that's going on. Is he
- 6:25Speaker 2: saying these things as a bargaining chip with the Iranian
- 6:28Speaker 2: leadership or I mean, are you with me that we're
- 6:31Speaker 2: getting mixed signals about exactly what's going on in that conflict.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think it's on purpose. That's just my opinion.
- 6:39Speaker 1: He look at the background Trump is in. President Trump
- 6:45Speaker 1: represents the United States, and most of Americans are against
- 6:49Speaker 1: what's going on in Iran, right, the right, the far right,
- 6:52Speaker 1: the all the left, and all of the immigrants, everybody.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Most Americans don't like the war on and they want
- 7:01Speaker 1: it to stop, want us out. So he has that
- 7:05Speaker 1: that he has to deal with. But his philosophy is
- 7:08Speaker 1: they are a threat. They have been, as you said,
- 7:11Speaker 1: for forty seven years. The difference with Iran and all
- 7:15Speaker 1: of the other people that we have been involved with
- 7:18Speaker 1: is they are determined to kill us. They don't cease
- 7:21Speaker 1: fire doesn't mean anything to them. Their long range goal
- 7:26Speaker 1: is to kill us. Cease fire, what are they going
- 7:28Speaker 1: to do. They're going to restock, They're going to rebuild.
- 7:31Speaker 1: They're going to continue their hate. Kill America, kill Israel,
- 7:34Speaker 1: wipe them off the face of the Mount that is
- 7:37Speaker 1: one issue that he is trying to deal with. I
- 7:40Speaker 1: think he wants them to stop leave us alone, and
- 7:45Speaker 1: it's going to force them to do it. I think
- 7:47Speaker 1: they're going to wait us out. That's what I think, no.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Matter what does Historically they've they've waited us out. I mean,
- 7:53Speaker 2: the radical Islam like that will wait centuries. They don't
- 7:56Speaker 2: care as long as the end game is what they
- 7:58Speaker 2: think their God tells them to do. So how do
- 8:00Speaker 2: you deal with that? I mean, it's my opinion because
- 8:03Speaker 2: I think there's some directive in Islam that if you
- 8:07Speaker 2: aren't at least fifty percent as strong as your enemy,
- 8:10Speaker 2: you don't even take them on. So they have to
- 8:12Speaker 2: know that we're stronger than them. But we get this
- 8:14Speaker 2: MoU which was stupid. We get this so called ceasefire,
- 8:18Speaker 2: and the mouthpiece for Iran immediately says, we just defeated
- 8:21Speaker 2: two nuclear powers. I guess we're a superpower now as
- 8:25Speaker 2: the negotiations are supposed to go on. So Iran doesn't
- 8:28Speaker 2: believe that they're inferior to us militarily. What does the
- 8:31Speaker 2: president have to do to make them understand they are?
- 8:35Speaker 1: They have to understand they have to leave us alone.
- 8:38Speaker 1: And the way to do that is the way that
- 8:41Speaker 1: I think Trump is trying to do economic sanctions, no
- 8:44Speaker 1: troops on the ground. He's committed to that, so he's
- 8:48Speaker 1: got to do other things. And until they realize and
- 8:52Speaker 1: think I don't think they realize it. They still have survived.
- 8:55Speaker 1: That is their goal, to survive everything surviving is that's right,
- 9:01Speaker 1: And they have said that we have survived. We're still here.
- 9:05Speaker 1: We haven't gone anywhere. Maybe he needs to eliminate everybody
- 9:09Speaker 1: at the top of the food chain.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Don't you need to make them surrender ted, make them
- 9:13Speaker 2: get on their hands and knees and beg us to stop.
- 9:17Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. I don't think they're
- 9:18Speaker 1: going to do that. They may stop, but they're not
- 9:20Speaker 1: going to beg us.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Well, let me, let me, let me throw this at you,
- 9:23Speaker 2: because you're smarter than I am. You've been telling me
- 9:24Speaker 2: for about twenty six years.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Some of them.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Hussein did beg. He did get on his hands and knees,
- 9:30Speaker 2: and we still killed him. Kadafi did beg, please don't
- 9:33Speaker 2: do this to us anymore. You don't think the Iranian
- 9:35Speaker 2: regime will do the same thing if they know that
- 9:37Speaker 2: it's certain death.
- 9:39Speaker 1: They have already done that. After twelve or thirteen days
- 9:42Speaker 1: of bombing, they said, oh, stop, leave us alone, don't
- 9:44Speaker 1: do it anymore. We're so sorry. Let's talk. Let's talk.
- 9:48Speaker 1: That's what that's what they want to.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Do, right.
- 9:50Speaker 1: But and so what do we do? We stop? And
- 9:54Speaker 1: maybe Lindsey Graham was right, don't stop, don't stop until
- 9:58Speaker 1: they come and do as you say. We give up.
- 10:01Speaker 1: We won't do it anymore. We surrender. But I think
- 10:05Speaker 1: we every time we stop, they rebuild. It's pretty obvious
- 10:09Speaker 1: they go back and Okay, give us, give them us
- 10:12Speaker 1: more time to rebuild, do whatever. And maybe that's what
- 10:16Speaker 1: we shouldn't do. But I'm not the president. And you
- 10:19Speaker 1: got to remember what I just said earlier. Most Americans
- 10:23Speaker 1: are not in supportive of this war. And the Iranians
- 10:27Speaker 1: know that. The Ranians know, Oh, the Americans don't have
- 10:30Speaker 1: the stomach. They're a weak country. They want their gasoline
- 10:34Speaker 1: prices back down fifty cents to a dollar, and they
- 10:38Speaker 1: will force the president to quit. That's what they believe.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Remembering their philosophy is we want you dead, we want
- 10:47Speaker 1: the country dead. And they have not been held accountable
- 10:50Speaker 1: for the thousands of Americans and civilians that they had
- 10:53Speaker 1: killed in the last forty seven years. Nobody held them accountable.
- 10:57Speaker 1: They know that, and so they're playing for time and
- 11:02Speaker 1: the President has to make a pretty strong case to
- 11:07Speaker 1: make them leave us alone. Don't ask them to, don't
- 11:13Speaker 1: take their word for anything, and whatever that means. To
- 11:16Speaker 1: make them leave us alone, then that's what we should do.
- 11:20Speaker 2: It's Ted Poe, former US Representative, former judge Ted Poe.
- 11:24Speaker 2: So I'm with you. They're never going to leave us
- 11:27Speaker 2: alone until they get what they want, which is the
- 11:29Speaker 2: end of Western civilization. So that's going to go on
- 11:32Speaker 2: for centuries more. How do you get rid of this theocracy?
- 11:35Speaker 2: How do you give that country back to the people
- 11:38Speaker 2: to give them a chance of a future. And should
- 11:41Speaker 2: we get rid of them? Which is what I want
- 11:43Speaker 2: and I think it's what you want, and most most
- 11:45Speaker 2: Americans would be down with Yeah, get rid of the
- 11:47Speaker 2: leadership there. And now that we're there, let's finish it.
- 11:49Speaker 2: What happens who takes over? Is there a vacuum? Do
- 11:52Speaker 2: more bad people come in? Like in Iran? In Iraq,
- 11:55Speaker 2: I should say in Afghanistan, more bad people came in.
- 12:00Speaker 1: See, that's what we have done in the past we have.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Libya is a perfect example. We we eliminated UH Libya
- 12:06Speaker 1: and made it a terrorist state, and we didn't take
- 12:11Speaker 1: take control of it. Probably the best example is MacArthur.
- 12:16Speaker 1: You know, we bombed Japan into submission. They surrendered, and
- 12:21Speaker 1: what did we do. We set up a new government.
- 12:24Speaker 1: MacArthur went in and set up a democracy. And now
- 12:29Speaker 1: Japan is one of our strongest allies. But he did that.
- 12:33Speaker 1: You know, the Marshall Plan to some extent was successful
- 12:36Speaker 1: in the Western Front, UH, but we have never done
- 12:39Speaker 1: something like that before. To answer your question, we have
- 12:43Speaker 1: to get I think Victor Davis Hanson is right. We
- 12:47Speaker 1: have to recognize Iranian government in exile. Who that is
- 12:53Speaker 1: I don't know. There are there are numerous groups in Iran.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Of course they can't agree either. They don't want the
- 13:00Speaker 1: present regime in power sixty to seventy percent. But those
- 13:04Speaker 1: they can't agree on who it is. And many people
- 13:08Speaker 1: say it's not the Shaw. We got rid of him
- 13:10Speaker 1: in forty seven. We don't want his son coming in
- 13:12Speaker 1: and taking over. So they got their own internal problems.
- 13:15Speaker 1: But we should help the Iranian people. I think we
- 13:17Speaker 1: should get them guns, just like we have done in
- 13:20Speaker 1: the past. Let them fight the war, let them fight
- 13:23Speaker 1: it out and see, you know, that would be the
- 13:27Speaker 1: best thing. But go back to go back to seventy nine.
- 13:31Speaker 1: That's what we did in seventy nine, and we supported
- 13:34Speaker 1: the wrong folks. The terrorists took over, you know, and
- 13:37Speaker 1: now they've had a change of heart, et cetera, and
- 13:39Speaker 1: they want rid of the Ayahtola. It's complicated, as I
- 13:43Speaker 1: really don't like to say, but it's up to the
- 13:45Speaker 1: Iranian people. Take control of your country. We are not
- 13:48Speaker 1: going to control your country. You have to take control
- 13:51Speaker 1: of it. Furnish them weapons, arms until they do the job.
- 13:56Speaker 1: That has worked in the past in other conflict where
- 14:00Speaker 1: the United States got involved in other countries.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Courage is in something that you discover when life is easy.
- 14:06Speaker 2: In fact, is revealed when standing for your faith comes
- 14:09Speaker 2: with a cost. We all know what happened to my
- 14:11Speaker 2: friend Charlie Kirk. He'd been on my show six times.
- 14:13Speaker 2: He was somebody they texted back and forth with, and
- 14:16Speaker 2: he was somebody that we all learned from, somebody who
- 14:18Speaker 2: really stood for what he believed in. That's what makes
- 14:21Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, American martyr, such a powerful story that I
- 14:24Speaker 2: want you to make sure you watch him, have your
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- 14:29Speaker 2: about a man whose faith shaped every decision he made,
- 14:32Speaker 2: who loved his family, invested in the next generation. In fact,
- 14:36Speaker 2: shows conviction over comfort. It asks the question every Christian
- 14:39Speaker 2: should consider, what am I willing to stand for? Really?
- 14:43Speaker 2: In a world that constantly pressures believers that stay quiet,
- 14:46Speaker 2: Charlie's story reminds us that following Christ has always required boldness, humility,
- 14:52Speaker 2: and unwavering faith. His legacy isn't about faith, It's about faithfulness,
- 14:57Speaker 2: and he stood for that every day of his life.
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- 15:16Speaker 2: of faith, courage, and conviction to audiences worldwide. The man
- 15:21Speaker 2: actually spend time in the Soviet Union, Why what is
- 15:23Speaker 2: he observing? What he tells you about what was happening
- 15:26Speaker 2: there is exactly what we're starting to see unfold in
- 15:29Speaker 2: places like New York City and elsewhere where the DSA
- 15:32Speaker 2: is starting to take over and win elections. Now Part two,
- 15:35Speaker 2: my special interview with former Representative former Judge Ted Poe.
- 15:38Speaker 2: We have to give them the opportunity, though, that's the problem.
- 15:40Speaker 2: When we're getting estimates of fifty thousand people killed in
- 15:43Speaker 2: the streets for burning a picture of the Ayatola, for
- 15:46Speaker 2: daring to march and say we want freedom and liberty.
- 15:49Speaker 2: It's very interesting to me that the idiots here on
- 15:52Speaker 2: this side of the pond who are in support of
- 15:54Speaker 2: Gaza or what would be Palestine, are saying that Israel
- 15:59Speaker 2: is committing a geneside in what would be Palestine. Yet
- 16:03Speaker 2: everybody ignores the fact that Iran and the theocracy he
- 16:05Speaker 2: killed fifty thousand people. How do you make sense out
- 16:08Speaker 2: of that, tad I mean, these people are nuts. They
- 16:10Speaker 2: really believe there's a genocide in Gaza, and there's not.
- 16:12Speaker 2: From what I understand, the population of Gaza is higher
- 16:15Speaker 2: than it was before October seventh, and they're killing fifty
- 16:19Speaker 2: sixty thousand people in the streets of Iran, and nobody
- 16:21Speaker 2: on this side of the pond even cares about that.
- 16:24Speaker 2: It's not our business.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Well, the reason is because the Left, what they do
- 16:28Speaker 1: is lie. They just out and out lie. The Israelis
- 16:34Speaker 1: are fighting for their survival right. In fact, they had
- 16:38Speaker 1: been too successful because they shot down thousands and thousands
- 16:42Speaker 1: of missiles coming in from Iran and their proxies into
- 16:45Speaker 1: Israel that is attempting to kill anybody in the way,
- 16:50Speaker 1: and they're very successful about shooting them all down. But
- 16:52Speaker 1: the goal of Iran is eliminate Israel. That is their goal,
- 16:57Speaker 1: eliminate the United States. Far as Gaza checked the war out.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Why did that start? It's because people from Gaza invaded Israel,
- 17:08Speaker 1: wiped out the northern part of Israel and took hostages,
- 17:12Speaker 1: killed what two thousand people. And all Israel is doing
- 17:16Speaker 1: is said, you're gonna pay for that, you say, be
- 17:17Speaker 1: held accountable for that. So when they go into Gaza,
- 17:20Speaker 1: they you know, the the Hamas hides in schools and
- 17:25Speaker 1: churches and hospitals, and they have to go in and
- 17:32Speaker 1: find those people and try not to kill civilians. In
- 17:37Speaker 1: other wars that did not happen. You hide in hospitals,
- 17:42Speaker 1: you're eliminated. You can't hide the population. I'm not saying
- 17:47Speaker 1: right or wrong, but in past wars, both sides. You
- 17:51Speaker 1: cannot hide. We're going to eliminate you. You hide in
- 17:53Speaker 1: their civilian population, and we're gonna do whatever we have
- 17:58Speaker 1: to get rid of you. If they'll do that, they
- 18:01Speaker 1: trying to do it, go ahead.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Do you think the people here that are complaining saying
- 18:06Speaker 2: that we're targeting children's hospitals, we're targeting maternity centers, we're
- 18:10Speaker 2: targeting mosques. Do you think the people here know they're lying?
- 18:14Speaker 2: Do you think the people here know that the target,
- 18:15Speaker 2: of course is Hamast that's hiding underneath that place, or
- 18:18Speaker 2: it's fill in the blankets bad guy that we're going after,
- 18:21Speaker 2: and they're using human shields. Like you said, that never
- 18:24Speaker 2: was the way war was fought. You were never allowed
- 18:26Speaker 2: to hide behind somebody, an innocent person, or inside of
- 18:28Speaker 2: a religious place, or inside of a hospital or a school.
- 18:31Speaker 2: But they're doing that. Do you think the people complaining
- 18:33Speaker 2: here know that they're actually targeting the bad guys or
- 18:36Speaker 2: they really think that the Israelian American governments are targeting
- 18:40Speaker 2: innocent people.
- 18:42Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of everything. One, they are
- 18:45Speaker 1: ignorant about the way the world really is. Second, they
- 18:49Speaker 1: want to believe this nonsense that the left is saying
- 18:54Speaker 1: about what is going on, and they want to believe
- 18:57Speaker 1: that they did this, want to believe it, they do.
- 18:59Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who who believe that
- 19:03Speaker 1: because they want to believe it. And the ones that
- 19:06Speaker 1: you hear the most a lot from are people who
- 19:09Speaker 1: if they were there, they would be the first ones
- 19:14Speaker 1: that Harmas eliminated. These women who want to talk about
- 19:18Speaker 1: the children and all of that. You know, they won't
- 19:20Speaker 1: say that over there, they'll say it over here, but
- 19:22Speaker 1: Hamas wouldn't let them live. Why because of the way
- 19:26Speaker 1: they look and the fact that there are women and
- 19:29Speaker 1: they're not Muslims, et cetera, et cetera. And so they
- 19:32Speaker 1: believe it because they want to believe it, and they
- 19:35Speaker 1: like to believe it because that's what they think. They
- 19:38Speaker 1: want to have that, they want to have a they
- 19:39Speaker 1: want to have a crusade that there's genocide against the
- 19:42Speaker 1: children in Hamas well. Who's causing that? Hamas is causing
- 19:47Speaker 1: the genocide really because of what they're doing so and
- 19:51Speaker 1: they have a lot of money behind them, people who
- 19:55Speaker 1: are still back in the dark. We don't know who
- 19:58Speaker 1: all these people are that support the these rallies, but
- 20:03Speaker 1: you know it is Iranian people. As you pointed out,
- 20:07Speaker 1: they've had It wasn't just the fifty thousand that was
- 20:09Speaker 1: killed in January. They've had thousands of killed over the years,
- 20:13Speaker 1: killing their own people. That's what really those type of
- 20:17Speaker 1: totalitarian governments do. We'd like to call it communism too,
- 20:22Speaker 1: but that's what they do.
- 20:23Speaker 2: It is a Tedpoe former US Representative, former judge Ted
- 20:26Speaker 2: Poe Mushing champion from Alaska nineteen seventy nine. Great job
- 20:29Speaker 2: with that, by the way, Ted, those appreciate you. Let's
- 20:33Speaker 2: take a look at what you just said, Mam. Donnie
- 20:35Speaker 2: is in New York and he said, let's freeze the rent.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Freezing the rent is a great thing, except now you
- 20:41Speaker 2: can't repair anything when it breaks. Now you can't afford
- 20:43Speaker 2: to keep the building. Of course, he would like to
- 20:45Speaker 2: see city government take over all those buildings. Now we're
- 20:48Speaker 2: gonna give you groceries thirty percent off. Well, how does
- 20:50Speaker 2: mom and pop shop grocery stores stay open when the
- 20:53Speaker 2: government using taxpayer dollars are lowered, forcing the lowering of
- 20:56Speaker 2: prices in stories that are being forced to be built
- 20:59Speaker 2: by tax dollars. So now he's going to take over
- 21:01Speaker 2: the food supply. He's going to take over where you live,
- 21:04Speaker 2: going to take over the food supply. And here's the
- 21:06Speaker 2: guy that that has purposely left out Little Italy and
- 21:09Speaker 2: Enclaven in New York, has left out the Jewish neighborhoods
- 21:13Speaker 2: in New York. The guy who's left out Chinatown in
- 21:15Speaker 2: New York, and he has got enclaves like Little Gaza
- 21:18Speaker 2: and Little Bahrain and all this stuff. I mean, here's
- 21:21Speaker 2: a guy that is telling you what he's going to do.
- 21:23Speaker 2: He is trying to take control of everything. And we
- 21:26Speaker 2: saw this this playbook before in Venezuela. We saw this
- 21:29Speaker 2: playbook before in the former Soviet Union. You were in
- 21:32Speaker 2: the Soviet Union. Can you elucidate? Can you tell people
- 21:35Speaker 2: who are watching and listening right now, just to really
- 21:38Speaker 2: illustrate exactly what it was that we're heading toward in
- 21:41Speaker 2: places like New York and small areas in Michigan and
- 21:45Speaker 2: even areas here in Texas. Should wed should we, you know,
- 21:48Speaker 2: give a blind eye to the fact that socialism slash
- 21:51Speaker 2: communism is starting to take hold.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Yes, I was in the Soviet Union when it was
- 21:57Speaker 1: still the Soviet Union back in the in the eighties,
- 22:01Speaker 1: and I saw firsthand what communism is like and what
- 22:05Speaker 1: it's not like. Communism. First of all, it's godless, it's
- 22:09Speaker 1: an atheistic philosophy. Mark said, So God is the problem,
- 22:14Speaker 1: and it is the worship of government, and the government
- 22:18Speaker 1: with the promise we will take care of you and
- 22:23Speaker 1: more free stuff for one thing. But they control everything.
- 22:27Speaker 1: You talk about controlling rent. In the Soviet Union, they
- 22:31Speaker 1: controlled housing. They controlled where every Soviet citizen lived, what
- 22:37Speaker 1: apartment they lived in, and they paid rent to the government.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Of course, you lived in that apartment until you were dead.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Of course you got free medical care. Everybody got free
- 22:48Speaker 1: medical care. You ought to see that medical care. You
- 22:51Speaker 1: stand in line for hours, you go in, you have
- 22:53Speaker 1: a you needed back surgeony, you walk out with a
- 22:56Speaker 1: cane two days later. But it's free and almost of
- 23:00Speaker 1: free stuff is appealing apparently to people throughout the world.
- 23:05Speaker 1: And everybody is works for the government. Government tells him
- 23:10Speaker 1: where to live. You can't move without the government permission.
- 23:14Speaker 1: They control all of the merchandise. They control every store,
- 23:18Speaker 1: every product. They controlled, like I said, your job, where
- 23:22Speaker 1: you live, and they control what you do.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Courage is in something that you discover when life is easy.
- 23:29Speaker 2: In fact, is revealed when standing for your faith comes
- 23:32Speaker 2: with a cost. We all know what happened to my
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- 24:44Speaker 1: Your action, and they control what you say. Big crime
- 24:49Speaker 1: and the major crime in the Soviet Union, engaging in
- 24:53Speaker 1: anti Soviet activity, or is that it's anything that the
- 24:58Speaker 1: Soviet Gestapo KGB rather says it is right. And I
- 25:03Speaker 1: went to some of their so called trials, most of
- 25:06Speaker 1: them were political trials. Drag somebody in. There's no jury,
- 25:09Speaker 1: of course, there's three judges, They get a police report,
- 25:12Speaker 1: they hear a few comments in the courtroom at the bench,
- 25:16Speaker 1: and they sentenced the offender and you never see them again.
- 25:20Speaker 1: For usually political crimes. Engaging in anti Soviet activity, taking
- 25:25Speaker 1: a photograph, talking to your neighbor, saying something, Oh my goodness,
- 25:30Speaker 1: say something against the Kremlin. You know, that's anti Soviet activity.
- 25:34Speaker 1: That's a crime. You can't do that, you can't no
- 25:37Speaker 1: free speech and total oppression. You talk about the oppressed
- 25:43Speaker 1: and the oppressors. In the communist world, the oppressed is everybody.
- 25:50Speaker 1: The oppressor is the Soviet government, the elites, the controller
- 25:56Speaker 1: who may get all the money. Everybody else is oppressed
- 26:00Speaker 1: in every possible way. That people in the Soviet Union.
- 26:04Speaker 1: When you're walking up down the street, they won't even
- 26:05Speaker 1: speak to you. Why not because you certainly can't talk
- 26:09Speaker 1: to a foreign foreigner from America, Texas Judge, you can't
- 26:13Speaker 1: talk to them. Why because you may be engaging in
- 26:15Speaker 1: anti Soviet activity. The KGB who followed me around all
- 26:19Speaker 1: the time I was there, may arrest them, drag them
- 26:22Speaker 1: before this tribunal, secret trials, et cetera. So you know,
- 26:26Speaker 1: it's very oppressed. But everybody's got a job. The government
- 26:33Speaker 1: picts your job. You may will want to be an engineer,
- 26:36Speaker 1: you may want to be a school teacher. No, you're
- 26:38Speaker 1: going to sweep the streets. Why because the Soviet Union
- 26:40Speaker 1: decides that's what you're going to do. And it's a
- 26:45Speaker 1: place that everybody in America should study the history of.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Besides the fact that the Soviet Union Stalin primarily killed
- 26:55Speaker 1: millions of their own people. Why they do They starved
- 26:58Speaker 1: the people in Siberia the Star of the Pheasants. They
- 27:05Speaker 1: just killed their own people. Why because they had a
- 27:07Speaker 1: population problem. So where headed that direction? Modamie which is
- 27:15Speaker 1: whatever his name is Mamdani.
- 27:17Speaker 2: But I make a mistake by saying moron a lot
- 27:19Speaker 2: of times that it's my bad. I don't mean to
- 27:22Speaker 2: call a moron Zamdani, but Mumdanni ted. Let me ask
- 27:27Speaker 2: you this on a legal basis, ken a mayor forced
- 27:31Speaker 2: taxpayers to build grocery stores, force taxpayers to lower the
- 27:36Speaker 2: grocery prices by thirty percent to get rid of competition.
- 27:40Speaker 2: And let me take you to the next step. Ken
- 27:42Speaker 2: a mayor really put a petitear tax on somebody who
- 27:46Speaker 2: owns a second home in New York if it's worth
- 27:48Speaker 2: more than a million dollars. This guy is just he's
- 27:51Speaker 2: He's in everybody's pockets, He's in everybody's bank accounts. He's
- 27:54Speaker 2: pushing big. Does he have the right to do this crap?
- 28:00Speaker 1: I would have to look closer at New York municipal
- 28:04Speaker 1: law to say whether he can do that or not.
- 28:07Speaker 1: There may be constitutional issues involved in seizing of property
- 28:13Speaker 1: without due process, without compensation. There would be those legal
- 28:17Speaker 1: constitutional arguments that I would make if I was in
- 28:22Speaker 1: New York as a citizen, that you could argue against.
- 28:26Speaker 1: But the city seizing control setting up these free grocery
- 28:32Speaker 1: stores which is appealing to people. It's just the first
- 28:36Speaker 1: step that he has in total government control of the
- 28:42Speaker 1: livelihood and where people live in New York. That's what
- 28:46Speaker 1: he's after. He wants to control where everybody lives. That's
- 28:50Speaker 1: his idea. And let me tell you something. I saw
- 28:53Speaker 1: the Soviet apartments where people everybody lived in an apartment.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Nobody live in houses except the rural people back in Siberia,
- 29:00Speaker 1: you know, and they all those apartments. Look them up still,
- 29:04Speaker 1: I think the photographs are still up. Tremendously tall concrete structures,
- 29:09Speaker 1: small apartments, and all of them belonged to the government,
- 29:13Speaker 1: and everybody's was the same. But they you know, that's
- 29:18Speaker 1: the way it is. Everybody.
- 29:19Speaker 2: There was no meritocracy. You couldn't you couldn't move yourself up.
- 29:22Speaker 2: You couldn't get a bigger, nicer house. You couldn't get
- 29:24Speaker 2: a bigger, nicer car.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Yeah, and the cars, you know, the Soviet the rulers
- 29:32Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union, they have a lot of money,
- 29:35Speaker 1: had a lot of them. As far as cars, it
- 29:37Speaker 1: would take them. And it still takes the citizens a
- 29:39Speaker 1: long time to get a car. Usually it was ten years.
- 29:41Speaker 1: I think it's down to it buddy.
- 29:43Speaker 2: Yeah, Regan told a joke about the ten year car.
- 29:46Speaker 2: I can't remember what the punch line was, but it's
- 29:48Speaker 2: something about the guy I ordered a car ten years
- 29:49Speaker 2: ago and he showed up in the morning and the
- 29:52Speaker 2: car dealer with ship was like, you ordered it for
- 29:53Speaker 2: the afternoon. So you know, it was crazy how how
- 29:57Speaker 2: completely controlled the population was, and we're that New York
- 30:00Speaker 2: and they're doing it by using class warfare. Ted Poe
- 30:03Speaker 2: has too much. I got to take some of his
- 30:05Speaker 2: to give it to this guy over here. We're just
- 30:06Speaker 2: looking out for the little guy and they're not. They're
- 30:08Speaker 2: looking out for themselves in the elite class. They'll be
- 30:11Speaker 2: the ones eating. They'll be the ones eating the prime
- 30:13Speaker 2: rib while everybody else goes and waits in line at
- 30:15Speaker 2: the thirty percent off grocery store. It's Ted po Ted,
- 30:17Speaker 2: I've got about a minute left, but I don't want
- 30:19Speaker 2: to not do this. John Thune should not be the
- 30:21Speaker 2: Senate majority leader. In my opinion, you only need twenty
- 30:24Speaker 2: seven senators to say we're going to change leadership. You
- 30:27Speaker 2: got to do the talking filibuster. You've got to get
- 30:29Speaker 2: the Save America Act done so that we can believe
- 30:31Speaker 2: in our franchise at the polling place. Again, if you
- 30:34Speaker 2: were in the Senate, would you urge your fellow Republicans
- 30:37Speaker 2: that have the majority to get somebody else in the lead.
- 30:40Speaker 2: He can't seem to gather enough votes to get anything done.
- 30:45Speaker 1: Yes to all the above. So the left is more
- 30:49Speaker 1: tenacious about their philosophy than Republicans are. We're timid. We're
- 30:56Speaker 1: afraid that would be called names if we do something.
- 30:58Speaker 1: And he has to understand, and I think he does,
- 31:02Speaker 1: we lose the Senate. The filibuster is gone, period. Well
- 31:07Speaker 1: get on with it now. Let's change the rules and
- 31:10Speaker 1: it's just a procedural rule, it's not in the constitution,
- 31:14Speaker 1: it's not the law, and do away with the filibuster.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Move on with the president's agenda. Because all of the
- 31:21Speaker 1: things that you hear that they want to do, they're
- 31:23Speaker 1: going to do them if they get control. Believe them
- 31:26Speaker 1: when they say they're going to do this right and
- 31:29Speaker 1: show some enthusiasm, plesumption, and get on with it. You know,
- 31:39Speaker 1: you have the majority, we have the Senate, we have
- 31:41Speaker 1: the House, we have the presidency. There's not one piece
- 31:44Speaker 1: of legislation that shouldn't be passed, not one that there
- 31:48Speaker 1: is conservative, that is good for the country. That's America first,
- 31:51Speaker 1: because everything they want to do is America hate. They're
- 31:54Speaker 1: going to destroy America if you give them the chance,
- 31:56Speaker 1: and don't give them the chance change the rules. If
- 32:01Speaker 1: you don't get it done.
- 32:02Speaker 2: If you look at the same America Act done by
- 32:04Speaker 2: November already, it's probably too late. I think. I think
- 32:07Speaker 2: the Left has waited us out long enough. But if
- 32:09Speaker 2: you don't get it done, you're going to lose at
- 32:11Speaker 2: least the House, if not the Senate. Then President Trump
- 32:13Speaker 2: is a lean duck for two years and these people
- 32:15Speaker 2: can can impeach him every day. That's what their goal is, right.
- 32:19Speaker 1: That's what they're going to do, is impeaching. They don't
- 32:21Speaker 1: have a plan other than to destroy America and destroy Trump. So,
- 32:26Speaker 1: like I said, we have we have it till November.
- 32:30Speaker 1: You know, I think call the Senate back in session.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Why it has always been this in August, everybody takes
- 32:36Speaker 1: a vacation in the House of Representatives and in the Senate,
- 32:42Speaker 1: stay in session. You can do that. Stay in session,
- 32:45Speaker 1: pass the law, get it done. We have the majority.
- 32:49Speaker 1: There are ways you can do it procedurally without people
- 32:52Speaker 1: jumping out the windows to pass legislation. The left is
- 32:58Speaker 1: more tenacious and commits to their idea of destroying America
- 33:03Speaker 1: much more than we are of saving America. And it
- 33:06Speaker 1: goes all the way. One more thing, it goes all
- 33:07Speaker 1: the way to voting. You know, we can win any election,
- 33:11Speaker 1: but the Republicans don't vote because the guy's not pure enough.
- 33:15Speaker 1: So we let the left decide who's gonna be in charge.
- 33:18Speaker 1: So so stupid stupid is stupid is a good word.
- 33:23Speaker 2: It is not not stupid at all, Judge Ted Poe,
- 33:26Speaker 2: go follow them everywhere and all the social media. Ted,
- 33:28Speaker 2: next time, we've got to talk about Paxson in tul Rico.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Tall Rico raised a bunch of money and he got
- 33:32Speaker 2: a lot of it from Reid Hoffman, from one guy,
- 33:35Speaker 2: ten million dollars. They're doing all they can to buy
- 33:37Speaker 2: this seat. We're gonna have to do that next time.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Go and follow that everywhere. My friend, great to see
- 33:41Speaker 2: you again. Let's do Let's do lunch soon, all right, yes, sir,
- 33:46Speaker 2: thank you? All right, we're back after this in the
- 33:47Speaker 2: Joe pag shows. Stay right here,