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Wreck of RRECS and Tattoos · United We Scan

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Hey, welcome back. We are at episode 12 this week
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and we got everybody in here today.
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Bill, Josh, Mike myself. And yes, we're still talking
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about the serious wreck. That is Rex, Mike, how was your
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week in the first full week of this mini mail survey?
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My week's been good compared to others.
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Mine's been going real. Well.
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Josh. My week's been pretty good also.
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But then again, for the first time ever, because the numbers
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show up on the report for piece count, for my large company, I
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could get all zeros for all 12 days and still go up because
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they get A minimum of eight hundred letters per day, and I
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had one day, two weeks ago where they had 11,000.
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So, Well you know, all those W-2s emailed out, they are
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getting sent back to them for whatever reason people you don't
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change your addresses. You have back so if you haven't
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gotten your no, meow yeah, might want to check on that.
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That might not work if you don't have your apartment number on
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there. Yes, if you don't have the
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sufficient address on there, Yeah, I week went.
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All right, it was fairly smooth and the wreck side of things.
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We all had to wait around Thursday, because well, when the
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two clerks that are scheduled as one that's borrowed in one
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that's new. And neither one of them know the
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scheme and how to sort Flats in our office, we had a weight to
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the postmaster. Got there at 8:30 in the morning
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before we got any of our raw Flats.
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So we did a and she had to do the letters too so we all waited
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around quite a bit Thursday for that but then I was off this
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weekend, Friday, Saturday. It's pretty awesome.
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And Bill. How did your week go?
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Oh, it just went wonderful. We were short of people to count
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the stuff. We had carriers confused about
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what the counting their DPS, we have a schedule that is so
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screwed up. I think we have more people
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often coming in and other than that it was wonderful.
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I mean yeah it's just It's just amazing that the both of us
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could arrange such a wonderful clusterfuck for our Amusement.
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Oh I know right, can't make this shit up.
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Let's forget it was it was nice to escape the office for the
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weekend though, I will say that. Oh God, yes and I thoroughly
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enjoy. It was actually kind of a double
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event weekend for us some I've been attending right?
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Early the Motor City. Tattoo Expo over the Last few
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years. And so we went.
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We actually, we took my daughter with us this weekend this time
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around and but my boyfriend's son was wrestling in the state
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finals over the weekend. He actually played fit placed
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5th for his way and division. So in Michigan, right?
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Yeah, for Michigan. Yeah.
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Well. Michigan division 2175 class.
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Yeah, he plays Fifth and And I got some new ink boyfriend.
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Got some new ink. And my daughter, got her first
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one. That was pretty big for a first
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one. Yeah yeah.
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See I thought she was gonna chicken out there first when we
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started mine because she's not one that can she is she can't
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sit still very long and she gets bored and your anxiety runs and
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so she patients why she doesn't have it but she actually sat
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there the whole time for the whole four and a half five
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hours, I was getting mine done. And one of the then way.
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Then got hers. A longer stick out two hours.
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So, she did you get, she only had a break once for a quick
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potty break and that was it. She's and that's why you wear
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Depends. Okay, that's one.
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I wear Depends. So, yeah, so that was exciting
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for her and then she was really thrilled because my favorite
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artists become like a good buddy.
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Now is from Ink Master season, 12 is Big Jazz and he brought
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elbow with him as well. I got to meet her last year so
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we were all just kind of hanging out during The Expo and Jazz did
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all three of our tattoos and so it was good time.
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We got to see some couple of the artists I hadn't seen in a
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couple years. It wasn't there last year and it
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was good to see the old friends and make some new ones this
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weekend. That's pretty cool.
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Yeah. Definitely.
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And then I have a eat cursor. Asian festival coming up in Ohio
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and I got my my tattoo time and deposit made for that as well.
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So, when y'all see me at National this year, I'll have a
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couple newer pieces. It's all right.
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Yeah. Well Michael get to see my my
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Phoenix in May so I will ya or August?
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Scuse me August I have another one.
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So yeah. Those are good weekend, at least
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said it was nice to get away. Get, you know, few hours
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Detroit's only about three, three and a half hour drive for
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us. So I need a large chunk of
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disposable income the time, an actual artists that I trust,
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good luck getting for you. Oh yeah.
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Well you're my daughter is already making plans on going
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annually with me as well again. So it said next time.
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Oh she's got to save her money and buy her.
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Next one mom foot the bill for the first one.
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My kid won't one. I still have to get my wife
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Bank. She was going to Get Inked and
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then, you know, got pregnant. So that put a wrench on that one
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and it just hasn't, you know, the money and time hasn't been
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there since And I don't think anybody out
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there listening wanted to visualize it out, so it's all
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good. Yeah, you still waiting up.
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Yeah, the good old postal thong. I've got to forget you when I
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swear, I almost. Okay, I'm at know.
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So yeah. Now back to the topic.
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So what are we thinking about this?
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I know Bill you were mentioning something about it should just
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be thrown out. Yes, yes, I'm going to shoot off
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a email to Bridget in regards to having you thrown out.
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We're having, you know, conflict and in regards to what's being
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delivered. As far as Parcels the concern,
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we had a discrepancy about the W SS and the Ws H, which is the
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walk sequence saturation. And then the walk sequence, high
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density, And a narwhal, pisar eastern district, the Delaware
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PA to District, we were informed by the district.
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Level rule carrier specialist that the wsh get centered under
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the WSS entries on your scanner and then the ADR of our office
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was confronted by a carrier saying.
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Well question 311 in the r xq a comprehensive question.
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The answer survey It says that only the WSS so now we had to
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retract that. So what happens to all these
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entries that we put in under the wsh are they counted or do you
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not counted? You know it's already counted.
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Yeah I mean they should be already counted but you know are
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they going to go back and and and retract them after finding
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out that we've been putting him in?
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Was how are they going to know? Are they going to be able to
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distinguish one from the other? By the printer itself.
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If the printer, you know, depending on the code, the
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printer put on them. Yeah, boy myself.
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Me is, how are they going to know when you entered it?
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It was Doug ESS or wsh. Oh, they won't,
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we don't know which ones will just delete them all.
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But yeah, that that would be their line of thinking that's
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probably true, but that but, you know, That's kind of the what's
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supposed to be the beauty of this is, if you make mistakes
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like that, then going forward, you know, within a year that
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data will fall off, will correct itself?
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Yeah, well correct itself. Yeah.
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You know, I've only recently throw it out but you know, this
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problem people do that though. Okay, they don't use wsh and
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that was a question. I had asked eight months ago, a
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high density doesn't mean full saturation correct.
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But since a rule carrier specialist told us to enter
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them. We did as directed so you can't
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fault us for that. Did you have it in writing?
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Yeah. Well, We actually we actually
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do. We have it in email?
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Okay there you go. There you are following.
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Then you were following the directives of a superior officer
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in the u.s. postal system. Yeah, well I wasn't going to go
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that far. But yeah, he's not Superior
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because a he's shorter and be it took him eight months to get
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back from a double knee replacement.
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And we have a carrier. Who's 80?
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80 year old mother. Got a double knee replacement
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walked out three days later. Yeah but you know that she
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wasn't she wasn't on the postal program.
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That's why she didn't take advantage of it.
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But the other problem is the scanning of the accountable.
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So you know the the delivery conformations which are showing
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up, not delivered, when you damn well know you handed it to the
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person I've had this situation happen, three times already, you
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know, in the last month and I had a carrier Saturday with 11
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defaults showing that they weren't delivered Including one
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he had sign in on the scanner a certified letter Scandal yo guys
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signed it on the scanner and heard everything and it showed
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it wasn't delivered. Yeah.
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Now, what's going on here? What's that?
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And we're supposed to trust these things and your pay is
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going to be based on this trust. So folks think, you know, if you
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can't trust the scanners case in point, I was accused of not
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scanning. Depart the route one day, well
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that's what the computer in the post office said, 20 minutes
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later to supervisor came back and apologized saying it's in
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the, our mssp program but it's not in the computer that they
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opened up. The check the scans.
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Now, what what the hell, folks, you've had 12 years to get this
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shit straight? You've had an extra six months
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to get this straight, they waited till the last two months
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before the start even training people.
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Yeah, And they still can't get it right.
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Now, my concern is that this is going to turn around and turn
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into a shit show. And people going to drop for
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four and five hours, they're going to drop for 5 hours on
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their routes. In my area alone we had Amazon.
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Well, we're not getting Amazon anymore.
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And people are all worried about that.
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And I said, yeah, well, you know, it's the Evan flow at the
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old mindset of the post office. We're not going to take an
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Amazon during the mini mail survey, because they still see
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his account. Not realizing it's the six-month
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process, not the two-week process.
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Yeah. But in the meantime, they're
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going to be data mining this information from this mini mail
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survey. And say, okay, now we're going
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to adjust your route. And I'm going to, I've gone from
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200 scans to barely over 100 scans in a matter of a month.
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yeah, ours of dropped quite a bit too and I know I have come
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across some Amazon, contract deliveries, and in their
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personal vehicles out on couple of my routes And yeah, there's
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days that those two zip codes don't even get Amazon at all now
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and you're thinking, oh, great. Now I'm going to get twice as
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much the next day and the next day you get, what you probably
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thought you would have had the day before.
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It's yeah, well, the answer, the question about where the at
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those show up on the radar report they don't because I know
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you know you have to be entered into your your scanner.
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They're individuals that they don't show up on record here.
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Extra point a radar report. I have no radar exists is
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different because the fact that it's a conglomeration of
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different mailings being bounded ship to you add, those are
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direct ships to you. And they don't go through.
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I don't go to the radar report. The point is at this point in
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the game, someone is asking that question.
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At this point in the game we have supervisors asking
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questions. Okay.
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Well do you BBM in the DPS? Does it count doesn't account.
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I get milk out like everything else except for the holes or
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forwards, you pull out or your inverted.
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Other than that, it's raw milk out.
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Raw piece count you got carriers, putting the inverted
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letters in with their raw mail count and you explain till now
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you just case them up and keep track of how many you got.
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Well, nobody told me you've been here for 12 years and you don't
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know this stuff. Well, I'm not a member of the
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Union. Well, give it On Facebook.
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You know, on YouTube. Get on rule, info dotnet,
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educate yourself. I'm not here to Hold Your Hand.
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I'll help you but you know, you need to help yourself a little
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bit that if you don't like you said 12 years.
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You've been through at least one, if not five counts.
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Well, probably one because last one was a few years ago about do
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that when he's 18 and then 16 before that and 14 one before
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that. And then every year prior Do
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that. You know, this reminds me of the
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blond that kept going to church every Sunday asking God to let
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her, you know, win the Powerball.
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You know, I need the money. I got to do this.
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I get. And, and finally, after the
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third Sunday, she lights a candle.
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She just Lord, you know, I really need your help in a
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voice. From above, says Meet Me Halfway
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and buy a lottery ticket. Oh, oh, it's your paycheck.
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Meet Me Halfway and pretend you You have some interest in it.
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Yeah. I'll go to bat for you, you
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know, and I'll help you and I'll educate you and everything else
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but you have to put some effort into it too.
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I agree. I get that my office to it's
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like I am the only one and they know that I study the shit.
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So it's like You know, y'all have access to it.
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Even if you're not going to Union member, you have access to
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it. Oh yeah, cuz I haven't made sure
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everybody in my office had all the handouts and pamphlets and
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activity guides and everything else.
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I never asked anybody's status on that.
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I just had one printed out and the boss made one for everybody.
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So you know, it's not like I don't know.
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People just don't Don't pay attention and then they bitch
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because they don't know anything.
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Yeah. And that it's the Indians fault
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right? The union I'm not doing anything
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for me. Yeah.
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Pretty union members, but then I turned around and I charged the
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non-union members $30.32 saddle point.
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Hey you guys got to make a living you know?
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Yeah well I'll say I guess my My experience, this week has been,
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has been different from what I'm hearing.
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What I'm reading out there Because RDR and his, his team of
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adrs led the training for management and when I talk to my
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whatever is title is oh I see stage manager or whatever, it's
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like talking to my D it's like talking to my Dr. He said the
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same things that came out of out of my DRS mouth, and he up to,
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and including says, as long as you're not asking for anything
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outrageous in here, we're going to let it go.
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We're not going to fight you over stuff.
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And my postmasters already said she's gonna err on the side of
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the rural carrier. There you go, not gonna want to
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fight it. So and I've seen my radar
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reports, I started to see the radar.
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Reports are starting to post them and including the day, I
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went through my my bundled flats and counted them and they showed
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up pretty close to what I can. Counted I was I was lost maybe
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like 5 or something, but they showed up but they showed up on
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there. so, my experience is that the information is, is getting
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in there. And and I haven't had the
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problems with what my scanner logging off.
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You know that, I'm reading about that.
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It have heard you guys talking about.
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So I was starting to be cautiously optimistic, at least
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for my office and my situation. I was feeling cautiously
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optimistic about this. But now I'm seeing stuff from
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other people, you know, the, you know, two days in.
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It was do we count. We're now we're not coming now,
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we're not counting uba, it's like, yes, sure.
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You're supposed to be counting that intend to do with all the
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rest, because you're not doing a complete breakdown of your
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markups, you're just getting the discount, so you include it
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right in there and then you get paid.
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So, peace out, the end of shift, duties for taking care of it.
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Yeah, so yeah. And then, and then my, my
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station manager said, there's even another report and I'm
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going to ask I'm going to follow up with him again on Monday.
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He says there's report that shows all of your all of the
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scans, all the rule activity scans, you've done for the past.
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Either 6 or 12 months. I can't remember which time
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period. He said so I'm going to ask to
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see that and And, you know, it's he showed me how that they, he
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showed me how they enter the stand-ups in in the system and
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it's not a thing that they got to go through every day.
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It's not that like they got to go through each individual time
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card entry. If they do the stand-up and they
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enter it and it credits to every route in that all of us for that
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day automatically, they don't have to go through every carrier
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in at it. Well, the problem is most of
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them are not starting at are not climbing it.
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Hey, we're not entering it Josh. That's understand that Josh.
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I understand that, that's not my point.
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My point is that it's a much easier system that they don't
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all they if they're doing it. Right.
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And I think my manager is It shows up for every route that
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day when they enter it. Yes, I've done a check of my, my
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tub flats, and those numbers are good.
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And I've done a couple of checks on my, my pre-sorted bundle
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flats and those have come out pretty good.
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So I was starting to feel pretty good about this but now I
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understand that, you know, my office is a microcosm And it's
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it's not, it's not it's not the general thing is what I'm seeing
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nationally. yeah, and So I'm starting to get kind of
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depressed about it because it's like, yeah, you know, I've been
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touting. I've been saying that I thought
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the system was going to be better for us and I've been real
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If not gung-ho, I've been I've been, I've been trying to, I was
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I've been optimistic about this and now I guess I'm coming back
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to reality that you know I thought that after after so much
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time that they would into delays, that three delays how
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many different places we've had that we would pull off the
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Band-Aid and go at this and there.
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There. And yes, there would be some
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tweaking that need to be done and some Growing Pains.
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But that essentially that this was going to work out for us and
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now I'm kind of saying that it's it needs some more naughty
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tweaking, it doesn't need tweaking.
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There needs to be some more, you know, Bridget bozak.
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Shirley baffled need to go and save the steward. - no, this is
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the way it's supposed to be. Not, you know, if you have
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managers who are pushing back and say you're not counting
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this, you say, no, this is what we're supposed to be counting
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and you guys need to be at the pointy end of the spear and and
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fighting this. Yeah.
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Or in situation where you don't have enough counters one day and
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they want to bring a clerk over to count and so know that your
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what do you mean? No, as they have to be
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certified, show me their certified, you know,
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certification papers that they attended Direction training.
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Well I can't show you my nice is you don't have to you were in
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the same day in class. I was okay?
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Yeah. But the clerk didn't go there.
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Okay. Yeah.
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No. They're not account.
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It's only counting night. I said no, you understand.
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Plain and simple. Yeah, this is not for discussion
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or argument and the ya know, Well, I'm going to be here 12
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hours. I don't care.
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I don't get paid for all this. You don't have to hear ya
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salary. That's, you know.
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Yeah. You know, any years I've been
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saying that, we don't get paid for what we do.
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So guess what? Take a bite of my pie.
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Yeah, I guess it was interesting in our office this week.
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I mean likes it count wise has been fairly smooth but as you
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know we had no flat Saturday and then our supervisor went on
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vacation Wednesday. She was there for half a day
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Wednesday and our 204 B was on vacation this past weak as well.
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So that left our Postmaster for Thursday Friday Saturday.
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Thursday, the clerk's that were scheduled were a brand-new PSC
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and a borrowed PSE, and neither one of them knew how to do
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anything. But basically, sort Parcels, so,
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we had to wait for the postmaster to get there to do
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are two separate and, and then count our raw flats and letters.
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And she didn't get there till 8:30 and we started at 8:00, so
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yeah. The other day, the other day.
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The the one that's counting the routes most of the days.
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She bring my hockey smell over it until like 10 40.
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And it was a whole tray of raw mail.
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Luckily eighty percent of it was for the large companies, but I
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still had to Ripple through it to pull out.
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All the rest of the mail. So I was able to adjust and I
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couldn't count because I'm an RCA.
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So even though I did go to the training, I can't do any of the
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counting. So yeah, we all had to wait
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around until she got there and yeah.
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Let me go back to the radar report thing here they got.
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I got this forwarded from Individual in our Union and
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says, I'm not going to sit here and defend it the radar.
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It is what it is. In the union supports it.
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I do not want to explain, I do want to explain a little on the
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bundle flats, and why it might not show up the day you get the
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bundle. Let's suppose to Cabello males
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out of huge mailing on February 15th.
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They take them to a bulk mail center in Nebraska, in the bulk
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mail And her enters in the amount of flats for the
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corresponding routes throughout the United States, which is
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uploaded to radar by time. I get Cabela's in Idaho, it's
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February 25th. I checked the raped radar and it
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isn't there, that's because it was input on radar February
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15th. Remember to bundle flats or a
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52-week average? So we can't even check.
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The see if the radar report is accurate and we've checked in
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our office and it's not accurate.
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We once got the first the first Saturday.
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Okay, we all got about six and a half to seven feet of bundled
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Flats. The route next to me got 92 for
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credit. I had 117.
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Okay, explain that one to me. How the hell is 17 to 7 feet of
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flats equal 117 pieces. For the you know.
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Yeah I will reach out and just smack that new tattoo dude.
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This is why you know you can't verify the numbers.
31:05
It is the system you know it does need tweaking, it needs
31:09
some real minut fine-tuning but the worst part of it is that the
31:14
management team that is doing this.
31:18
They're still mumbling dolts in the dark.
31:21
They really are. Is everybody with duh dolt?
31:32
Yeah. And seeing all the issues I've
31:42
seen with people. I mean I think I asked Bill one
31:47
day, when he called me, Evie, have you guys seen an upswing
31:52
and SPM scans since this whole thing started?
31:55
Yep, I have a couple. I've had a few more recently.
32:03
Yeah. Well as you know, I might say
32:05
one or two a week and I'm seeing three or four a day.
32:09
Hmm. Hasn't been that much, but
32:12
increase for me. But on the same note, I'm still
32:19
getting them for that barge company. so, Out of what say,
32:27
800 letters is. What shows up on the report,
32:32
whistle, like, winners from scanning out of 15, the one
32:36
they're looking for. That's not even count any of the
32:40
flats. These books can be anywhere
32:44
first anyway. Huh.
32:50
How many of the flats do I do first or do the letters when
32:53
they can get 122 124 tubs worth? Nothing.
33:03
I hope you got the right one. And they waited two months
33:31
before it started, and they actually bumped it back an extra
33:33
month, member supposed to start up, and you worry.
33:38
And, you know, then it got bumped back in the February.
33:42
And they still couldn't get it right.
33:47
Is it because of the incompetence of the post office?
33:49
Is it because the post office doesn't want to see this
33:52
implemented. This, this is the next step to
33:55
us going hourly. It really is
34:17
Taking stuff similar to Rex and implementing it on the city Side
34:21
as well. Let me tell you something, they
34:26
don't want to see it. They're awaiting payment of two
34:40
hundred thousand dollars in grievances.
34:47
Two hundred thousand dollars. What does that Tell You Folks?
34:53
How bad the management is? this is, I've been settlements.
35:06
Well, you know, take Take. Take, for example, my office
35:12
tomorrow. You have stick subs off, you're
35:17
bringing two carriers in who are not on the workday relief list.
35:21
They want, they're welcome to come in and observe the the many
35:24
mail survey but they should not be scheduled.
35:27
So I got at least two stubs at be able to file a grievance.
35:29
A third regular is off with the doctor's note that he submitted
35:35
a month ago. It's not on the schedule.
35:37
A fourth carrier who is going to To Africa for a month.
35:43
Is scheduled all Tuesday through the next, you know, 30 days, but
35:48
he plans not to come in tomorrow.
35:51
Hmm, do you expect the subs to be on call because there's no
35:55
such thing? Not my office.
36:01
Oh I called them me I'ma write them up for not coming in.
36:04
I'm sorry, there's no one calls that is how much you pay him.
36:11
Oh, I got one for you. So R sub who is no longer with
36:15
us. Stop Tim's Thursday.
36:19
I don't know, turn his badge or something in and caught me on
36:23
his way back out the door and asked if he could, you know,
36:29
talk to me on the Stewart end of things and Was saying that, you
36:35
know, he had more willing to stay if he didn't have to work,
36:38
a full route, two days in a row. If he could, you know, have a
36:42
day break in between and I said, that's not.
36:45
So that's not in the job description.
36:47
I said, there's no limited Duty on the rural side, and he's
36:53
like, but what I said that would be something you'd have to work
36:55
out with management but I don't see it possible.
37:00
And I stopped. It is what it is.
37:05
I'm thinking that was just the 42 j.r. out, he ran two days and
37:12
then was in so much pain with his back and everything he
37:15
needed to recover. And I'm thinking if that regular
37:18
goes on vacation or something happens, and he goes out again.
37:23
You know, for a long term, you're not going to be able to
37:28
pull another sub to work every other day for you.
37:33
Exactly. Well there is and then you get
37:36
into this. Yeah.
37:38
But you know, if you did you'd get into a disparity of
37:41
treatment situation once a week, maybe twice because
37:56
I have to run it with another route.
37:59
That's it. I'm in.
38:00
I'm out on full routes almost every day of the week.
38:09
So yeah, look, I look back to when I started, you got three
38:16
days training and then you had to carry it around.
38:20
Now you're getting, you know, to pay periods of protection from
38:24
going onto another route. You know, people coming into
38:27
work and they're like well I can't lift this.
38:31
Well hold it is part of the job description folks.
38:34
It's 40 pound bag of dog food. It's not.
38:37
You have 270 pound limit yet. No, I can't do that.
38:41
What the hell do you apply for? Yeah just because Mom said, get
38:45
out of the basement. Yeah I said that you just want a
38:55
part-time job. Well you know, if you're an RCA
39:01
you're going to be working. There's no yeah.
39:04
One day a week, one day, every other week.
39:06
Great now not with a short staffed office.
39:12
It's not going to happen. They were there was a report and
39:19
I can't remember where I saw it. That somewhere out in
39:23
Greenville, Kansas, that they were reporting, no problems with
39:27
the radar report. No problems with the Rex, many
39:30
mail survey, no problems. This, I'm sitting there going,
39:34
well, why don't you go to a real office?
39:37
You know where they have a mix of city and rural carriers where
39:40
they have, you know? You know, five to seven, yo,
39:43
supervisors, and you know, shortage of carriers shortage of
39:47
Clerks and incompetent management.
39:50
And it wasn't you, then survey them and then come back and tell
39:54
me. There's nothing wrong with Rex,
39:57
but don't go to a five off the, you know, pipe route office in
40:00
Greenville where everybody is related to each other and they
40:03
work, you know, with each other they're probably Crossing crafts
40:06
and everything else to get the job done, which is commendable.
40:10
But that's not what's happening in the rest of the real world.
40:18
Tell Mike. Well, I well I work in a mixed
40:22
office. We, you know, when I say you
40:26
know, when I say my office has 50 routes.
40:28
While we have two offices with two ZIP codes in the two offices
40:32
are on opposite side of towns. So in my office, we have 25 roll
40:36
routes and I believe about 14 City routes in my office in my
40:43
actual office. And and I and I would have to
40:47
reflect that to I'm not seeing a problem with the radar report.
40:51
I'm not having problems with the scanners.
40:53
I think I think the the tub flats are being counted
40:57
accurately. I'm not having problems with
40:59
management. So I do work in a larger mixed
41:04
office. That's both you know, now,
41:07
granted, we're not rule rule like like this, like this other
41:10
office you're talking about, we have a couple routes that get
41:14
out in the sticks a little bit, but not And I know the other
41:20
office hasn't has a route that I've run before he said.
41:22
Now, this is about as close to a rural route as I've seen in our
41:27
office. but I'm not seeing a problem with it, but then again,
41:32
I'm saying that I You know, my office is probably that unicorn
41:38
office. That's like I say it's not
41:42
seeing any problems. Yeah, I mean, we have not heard
41:49
of no problems in any of the offices in the in the Delaware
41:54
PA to region. I mean, you know, then again, we
41:59
have offices in our area where, you know, they have open routes
42:03
that have been posted district-wide and they can't get
42:07
filled. Well, we had a post excuse me,
42:11
Chris and I we had a, we had a district-wide posting, and in
42:15
Kansas Missouri, it was in the middle of Missouri.
42:21
They posted they posted for 10 PT F positions district-wide.
42:27
And at our booster meeting, our RDR said, well that, that was 10
42:33
left after they put it up for bid in office.
42:38
And it went district-wide and they filled some of the
42:40
positions. And then it went back to the
42:43
offices, I guess our office, because I guess it was one
42:46
office, and they filled and then the non-probationary RCA A's who
42:53
hadn't had a year in, were able to bid and they filled some more
42:55
positions and then they ended up hiring the last three off the
43:00
street. Hmm.
43:03
So There's a question for you Kristen.
43:08
Yes. even if you're a non-probationary RC a Where's it
43:15
say that they can bid on those? Are they using the exemption of
43:21
the most qualified persons available?
43:24
I think. So like that would would be what
43:26
it would fall under. So what's going to happen?
43:32
I mean we're seeing this now but what's going to happen when
43:37
these evaluations finally come to for tation and we have a mass
43:44
amount of regular carriers that essentially take early
43:48
retirement. Walk off the job.
43:53
Yep. That's because I've seen to talk
43:56
about it. Yep, I've seen that too or even
44:00
something that necessarily an early retirement.
44:02
They're ready to go. You know, they can go, I should
44:06
say, they qualify to go but they're just not personally
44:08
ready to go yet that, you know, are going to be like yet.
44:12
Nope, I'm done. All right.
44:15
What's going to happen with that?
44:17
I mean if you don't if you already have a shortage of RCA's
44:20
and PTI offs and regulars as it is, and we end up with a
44:26
massive. Walk out.
44:29
Then what's going to happen? The same thing happened in our
44:34
office when we got this new postmaster in and he cracked
44:37
down on the city carriers, we had 17 City carriers, just walk
44:43
out basically take early retirement, early out leaving
44:47
though they qualified you know, for retirement but because they
44:50
weren't planning on retiring. This guy came in and 17 of them
44:53
walked out in the first three months while now our wealth is
44:57
averages, 14 to 22, vacant city routes a day.
45:02
Holy moly. Yeah.
45:07
Well. When I'm a Christmas time,
45:12
people were getting mail for 34 days on City rails.
45:15
But they were getting their parcels.
45:20
Yeah, it just happened if you won't have anyone to cover and
45:24
they'll end up having a higher regulars off the tree, which has
45:28
already been starting to happen as it is out.
45:31
Yep. I want to say Minnesota Dakota
45:34
area. Yeah.
45:37
Well, I was just someone, one of my friends on Facebook.
45:43
I didn't realize he was also a rural carrier in Iowa, and I
45:50
posted or I shared something that in our district are going
45:53
to have a district-wide or they're going to have
45:57
district-wide hiring fairs at the end of the month after after
46:01
the Rex is over. And my office is listed on.
46:05
There is needing RCA's. And I shared that and he's in
46:09
and then we were talking about that.
46:12
And then I saw a flyer, a similar flyer for virtual job
46:16
fairs for The Dakotas Iowa, maybe Minnesota to.
46:21
I can't remember what I saw on it so you know.
46:27
So, I don't know, I don't know what's going to happen because I
46:33
was christened. I've seen the I've seen the post
46:35
from people saying, if my route goes down for hours, I'm out of
46:38
here. My our, if, if I'm cut, if I'm
46:42
taking a big cut from this, I'm gone.
46:46
You know, and I'll probably stay because and then and then what
46:51
we were talking about last week then what happens?
46:54
Well, do you know, we going to contract negotiations next year
46:57
and it's like, you know, due to lack of Staffing.
47:01
And you've got people who willing to do it.
47:02
Let's just get rid of that article 30 protection and, you
47:05
know, regular carriers, you just gonna have to suck it up until
47:08
we can until we can fix our hiring.
47:11
Yeah. And make it to make a pitch that
47:13
can make a make a run at at that protection.
47:17
We have Yeah, I know the I think National Convention this year is
47:27
going to be really interesting. Well, that's what we thought
47:32
last year and not really much happened now.
47:36
Yeah, that's because that's because they didn't bother
47:39
telling you about the delay in the payment for your raises and
47:44
as well as, you know, the delay in the Rex program.
47:47
Yeah, they actually left, you know, potentially left all the
47:50
You pertinent information out? Yeah.
47:54
How convenient, huh? Well, you know, all the retirees
47:58
and all them. They, you know, they didn't need
47:59
to know that info anyways. Yeah, and there are more
48:05
retirees there than there are actives.
48:11
That's my thing. I get it.
48:14
You want to go visit? Don't go, you know, if you've
48:16
been retired for more than five years, You should be out step
48:22
down. I mean I grew up, I have the
48:25
utmost respect for our retirees and there are some out there
48:28
that really do fight for what some of us are going through
48:31
now. But in general, I mean if you've
48:34
been retired for more than five ten years, it's time to step
48:39
down as a delegate and let's all of us have those spots that are
48:43
still going through the day-to-day grind.
48:46
Hmm. Because number one, if you've
48:51
been retired for more than five years, you barely know what we
48:54
have been dealing with since to 2018.
48:57
Okay. Number two, if you've been
48:59
retired more than five years, you have no idea what we're
49:04
going through with the management turnover, in the post
49:07
office because the most qualified person we have in our
49:10
office. I swear to God, you know, she's
49:14
weak. Think I we have an AED cuz she's
49:16
going to go with the defib one day.
49:19
And yeah, we have to put the LED daughter and you know, volunteer
49:22
to do that. I am qualified but you know,
49:33
there's mitigating circumstances there but the thing is the thing
49:37
of it is that, you know, you can't take a clerk Make them a
49:44
204 B and 30 days later you call them a supervisor.
49:49
Yeah, you can't take your supervisor like they took our
49:54
rural carriers, supervisor and send her for three days trip.
49:57
Four days training. Excuse me.
50:00
In the middle of the mailman, email survey.
50:05
What kind of what kind of intelligence does this take?
50:09
You can't have a an eight-day rule for Rural, carrier
50:13
Associates, and indeed, the Delaware PA to district and out
50:18
in Oregon. It's a 10-day.
50:19
And then down there in st. Augustine Florida.
50:22
It's a 14-day rule. Where do you come up with this
50:25
shit folks? And my poor 204 B has a city
50:29
Side PTF, when he's there on Saturdays and I kind of Got him,
50:34
he's a good kid and, you know, he just looks at me, he goes,
50:39
nah, he's this is just a glorified babysitting job,
50:44
that's all he feels like he's like, you know, they showed me
50:48
how to run some of these reports, but after that, you
50:50
guys know what the hell you're doing. yeah, it's Yeah, it's a
51:03
bath. It's a match.
51:04
That's an understatement. Yeah, it really is.
51:09
It really is. Yeah and might says, well the
51:14
radar reports are showing up. Well, we can't we can't prove
51:19
that because nothing corresponds with the bundle Flats versus the
51:23
radar report. It.
51:25
Is it three days? Four days, five days behind what
51:27
we're actually getting. We've gotten radar reports for
51:31
four days and only got bungled Flats one day.
51:37
Yeah, I'm not a genius. Well, it's I'm saying you can't
51:49
prove the numbers. Oh, don't worry.
51:52
It's over. Fifty two-week period.
51:54
You'll get the numbers but you can't prove the numbers for them
51:57
in email survey. That's what we're talking about.
52:02
When we carry your next to me is get 79 on his report.
52:06
He counted 405 something off just a little bit, but the
52:11
bundled Flats aren't being for the purposes of the males.
52:17
Survey, the bundled Flats aren't counted.
52:22
I mean, yes, they show up on the radar report or supposed to show
52:25
up on the radar report. But it's not what's being
52:29
counted for purposes of the mail survey.
52:34
Then, why are they bothering to give us the radar reports?
52:38
Why do they bother counting them?
52:41
Because they have to, because the bundle Flats have to be,
52:46
they have to show those numbers when they worked them into your
52:50
eat-in to the other 94% of your evaluation.
52:57
Right. I mean, you know that's that's
52:59
for that figures in, but for purposes, the mail survey and
53:04
that's kind of where I'm kind of getting tired of this fight.
53:08
Is that the radar report does if it lags by a day or two?
53:12
I'm not too concerned about it or even even three or four days.
53:17
I'm not too concerned about it because those numbers are going
53:20
to be averaged out over 52 weeks.
53:23
What I'm concerned about is Is this last little bit, the little
53:28
bit that we're supposed to count and that's and that's why I had
53:32
the hopes of racks is that this will is that they're going to go
53:38
away from all this individual counting things and then
53:42
fighting over you. No well I pulled this out of
53:45
your out of your tub, but it's actually a letter.
53:48
Here's the little blue ruler and all that craps going away.
53:52
You know, that this? What that what we're doing, what
53:54
we're doing is just The last little bit that they couldn't
53:57
find a way to automate. That they couldn't find a way to
54:01
automate the count on what the clerk sort and pars labels.
54:07
And in in, in where do we where do we figure in the walking
54:12
distances within your office? you know, the radar report and
54:18
just keep Mama grader report and or into from reports this Friday
54:23
when they stopped Counting They're not supposed to stop
54:27
posting that report, they're supposed to riposte that report
54:30
every day from now on, so you can see your numbers.
54:37
And my gear correct. You know, in regards to the
54:40
actual mini mail survey The radar report has no real bearing
54:45
on it. Okay.
54:47
My problem is you can't justify the numbers on the radar report
54:51
with what you're getting. Okay, it doesn't matter whether
54:57
it's two days, three days, four days, five days, two weeks.
55:01
There's no way for us to justify those numbers.
55:08
I'm trying to put it into perspective of it's like
55:11
reconciling your checkbook. Like I started a week or two
55:18
ago. I don't know how you do a
55:20
checkbook, but I don't do it every two weeks.
55:24
Well, Mom, you say I started writing down, what might, you
55:28
know, I've been counting my bundle, you know what, I'm
55:30
getting in bundles and just starting that total down right?
55:35
And once I actually start seeing a radio report because they
55:39
still haven't printed one in my office yet. so I'll be I should
55:47
be able to go back and cross-reference and say okay the
55:53
on this day these numbers from that date matched up, And be
55:59
able to start checking and marking off.
56:01
And at some point it should I should be able to reconcile up
56:07
until a certain point. All these numbers from the last
56:12
few weeks. If I'm able to actually see
56:15
those numbers, there's the keyword should should be able
56:20
to. That's why there's that 19
56:23
percent thrown in there. Because there's a margin of
56:28
error. Good and can there are two
56:35
different words. Yes.
56:40
I agree with you, Bill. Yeah, I can tell you what's in
56:45
my checkbook. I can't tell you what's on my
56:48
radar report and I can't tell you how many flats.
56:51
I've received that correlate with the radar report on a daily
56:56
weekly, or monthly basis. And say yeah, I can't either
57:01
because I haven't seen those numbers yet.
57:07
Once let me do actually get those and see those numbers.
57:11
Hopefully, I will be able to hopefully good would have shut
57:21
up. Exactly.
57:23
So so Bill let me throw this back at you.
57:27
The the the well actually let me put it to you this way.
57:32
If you get a response from from from Bridget, I'd really like to
57:36
hear what that is. I'll let y'all know.
57:39
Okay? Because I have a feeling that
57:45
There there. Is the analogy I said is I
57:50
really think they rip the Band-Aid off on this and they're
57:53
just going to go they're going to go ahead with it and you know
58:00
well it doesn't matter you toward the scab off to well.
58:03
Yeah, you know well and like Ronnie said, well, don't worry
58:09
if there's adjustments to be made, we can do that.
58:12
No, no, no. This is supposed to be set in
58:14
stone Ronnie. This is why we had three
58:16
different, you know, Chester's of engineering and Time study
58:19
efficiency, you know, corroborate in this situation,
58:24
so that it could be set in stone that everybody agreed to.
58:27
You can't go back and change it now.
58:30
You already have your arbitrators deal with it, and
58:34
like it was stated on the steward.
58:38
QA, prior to the racks, I do believe Ronnie got on there and
58:45
said that dr. Miracle will be at National
58:48
Convention this year. I wonder how well that'll go.
58:55
Well, it depends. Well, it depends because RDR
58:59
said, when he was, he was at National headquarters, do I vote
59:03
in my wife who said he was there, but he had a chance to
59:05
talk to dr. Miracle and he said, when he
59:08
talks about his numbers and his charts and everything, he is,
59:14
he's like a kid in the candy store.
59:17
He's like his, he's in his element. so, we'll see.
59:26
Yeah, the last last time I saw him was at Grand Rapids and I
59:31
ran into him and we were talking and he goes oh my God somebody
59:34
else appreciates numbers as much as I do.
59:42
Okay, I think it's a different kind of, I think we're
59:44
interested in different sets of numbers though. 36:26.
59:50
I know that I wasn't going there.
1:00:04
Payroll file. Next next Monday, Yeah, I don't
1:00:11
think there's other numbers, can't, you know, you can't even
1:00:15
access that without being on. Well, I think that it, you can
1:00:21
get into payroll, you get into its you sleaze and you know PF?
1:00:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is again now, they actually
1:00:36
changed it on the postal. He's again, after they had it
1:00:40
all in a couple days and now it's you have to be back on a
1:00:44
office computer in order to change your allotments, which I
1:00:47
have to go in and do this week. Okay.
1:00:50
Yeah, I didn't realize it. Yeah. yeah, it's an EOP F has
1:01:03
been down for ever now, so Yeah well and that's kind of weird
1:01:09
because now that they've got to this to factor two Factor
1:01:14
authentication, I would figure that they it should be back up.
1:01:19
So I'm wondering why it's been. I mean, I could see it taking
1:01:24
taking it down like they did for everything else.
1:01:26
But, you know, now that You have to have like I said, the two
1:01:33
Factor authentication. That should be.
1:01:35
I don't see why we can't get back in.
1:01:37
I don't know. I agree with you on that.
1:01:42
It's me. The two queens.
1:01:47
The two Factor authentication to me, is not a big deal.
1:01:50
I know a lot of people are are railing about it on on social
1:01:54
media but I don't think it's a big deal.
1:01:56
Yeah. I mean either because it's
1:01:57
actually I think it's a good idea.
1:01:59
I think it's a good idea to be to Captain to the double verify
1:02:09
that the right person is trying to access your information that
1:02:14
you are the person whose axes Point 1.
1:02:16
Why? Because when I do the, the first
1:02:21
step, and it says you're an asshole.
1:02:24
And then when I do it, the second time and said you're
1:02:25
still an asshole. Yeah.
1:02:28
Well, that's just because you are an asshole.
1:02:30
That's it. It's just an acknowledgement,
1:02:34
you know, it's in your case. It's just, you know, it's more
1:02:41
it's more about working on your self-esteem.
1:02:46
Then then anything else? Great self-esteem.
1:02:52
And I think I'm the best. That's all I can do.
1:02:55
Yeah. You're gonna be very good at
1:02:56
something. Be excellent.
1:02:58
You know. But but it is good for, you
1:03:01
know, for protection because of all the hackers and everything
1:03:04
else, you know, protect yourself, folks.
1:03:07
Yeah, we're X. And that's what the doctor told
1:03:13
my father, after I was born, I've been hanging out with
1:03:23
tattoo artists all week and you never know what's going to slip
1:03:26
out of my mouth right now. But not touching that one.
1:03:39
Well, yeah. Now that I am.
1:03:41
Yeah. Okay.
1:03:43
This is a PG 17 show. Well, has the explicit rating on
1:03:50
it so it's okay. Yeah, it does II made sure
1:03:54
because I know sometimes people like to call Bill a fucking
1:03:59
asshole and Oh wait, Bill calls himself that.
1:04:06
So yeah, we don't have to answer.
1:04:31
I mean, come on folks. So Rex is a wreck.
1:04:40
Yeah, we've known that you know unfortunately Mike Mike Yeah
1:05:01
yeah I know Thursday since we got the Shroud off set up when
1:05:11
she got those counted and because you know I'm still
1:05:14
sitting around waiting on the raw mail.
1:05:16
So I might as well throw up the Waiting on the letter so I might
1:05:21
as well get the flats. I had that whole route ready to
1:05:24
go literally everything marked. I had instructions on how to get
1:05:28
a house that wasn't by the Box on the parcel marker, everything
1:05:33
literally, all he had to do when he walked in the door was taken
1:05:37
out to the truck load it and go to the row. and, It still took
1:05:46
him almost three hours on the street and there was only two
1:05:49
Dismounts. Well that's pregnant.
1:05:53
Seven hours. It took them last time.
1:05:56
I don't think he's gotten some about usually about five four
1:05:59
and a half five. There's either way.
1:06:05
So, it's an improvement. I was just down the street.
1:06:11
Oh, yeah, my case is all jacked up.
1:06:14
I got, you know, case, labels people street name has its own
1:06:18
symbol. It's right there.
1:06:21
Their route is literally three rows.
1:06:23
That's it. There's three rows to that whole
1:06:25
route. Maybe.
1:06:28
All right to in 3/4 Rose. But anyways, I walk in and
1:06:35
there's huge bright ass sticky notes with the number street
1:06:38
name, written stuck underneath where it goes, on like case.
1:06:44
Yeah, and there's only one, two, three, four.
1:06:59
Five six roads total for that row.
1:07:04
Oh shit, I move my mouse and Josh and his cat showed up
1:07:08
again. Yes, like six or seven roads for
1:07:12
that entire row. And 99, what do you do?
1:07:19
You know? Yeah, yeah.
1:07:25
It's gotten to the point where I said, you want me go ahead and
1:07:29
get this case tough and ready to go.
1:07:30
She's like, yeah, yeah, give you something to do.
1:07:33
It's all right, so then maybe it won't take him, six hours out
1:07:36
there again and she laughed. She did leave in the postmasters
1:07:44
at the point of just Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, folks.
1:07:54
I don't know where the post office is going, I don't know.
1:07:57
I feel for people who were going to be out try to make careers
1:08:02
out of the post office. Because frankly, I get out to
1:08:06
me. It's dismal not only from their
1:08:09
policies but in their management.
1:08:13
Yeah. And I'm going regular within the
1:08:16
seven eight months Yeah, I'm driving by 34 mailboxes that
1:08:23
don't get any mail you know a day and you know you're not
1:08:27
getting that's that's showing up on Rex to, you know that you're
1:08:31
passing his mailbox is your on, making it stops be carried the
1:08:35
other day, you know? It's just you know, why you come
1:08:38
back silly. They came back and I had cased
1:08:40
up a box holder and to high densities and what to oversized
1:08:49
postcard, you know, box holders and they came back and I was
1:08:53
there for about an hour and a half.
1:08:56
And I said, what took you so long?
1:08:57
They said, well, yeah, I guess stop at every box.
1:09:00
I said you have mail for every box.
1:09:01
No, but I'm going to stop at every box.
1:09:04
You know, it shows up that you're not getting mail for that
1:09:07
box. no, I said, okay, now you know It actually shows because
1:09:15
they're using their DPS and you know, they can't tell the Box
1:09:19
holders and stuff like that, but they know on the DPS, if you're
1:09:22
not getting anything. Right.
1:09:52
Right. You know, we should have that.
1:09:59
Available. In the same way, like the, the
1:10:05
the Rex program says, you know, they dropped off bundled
1:10:07
newspapers or something at the back of your doc.
1:10:10
That's not, you know, included in the program Sue.
1:10:14
So, we've got Out of us because the printers in that town.
1:10:22
And then they just, you know, when the truck stops and drops
1:10:25
off their mail for the day, they pick them up and drop them off
1:10:28
to us at the next stop. And then we also got another
1:10:32
local paper from town hour. North of us.
1:10:34
That drops it off at the office just north of us.
1:10:37
So when she gets there, she picks those few things up daily.
1:10:41
And then, when she's coming back down, making her rounds to pick
1:10:44
up empty equipment. She drops those off for us.
1:10:49
And then you have a supervisor say oh no those don't get
1:10:51
counted. Oh no.
1:10:59
No, but I'm saying. The lack of knowledge that the
1:11:09
information that this information, I mean, it's
1:11:12
overwhelming. I was like I said we had a role
1:11:15
carrier specialist telling us the the enter, the wshh.
1:11:18
Wshh as you know, a walk sequence saturation and you know
1:11:23
you find out on question 311 no it's not but this guy's a
1:11:27
specialist. But then he's the same guy that
1:11:30
has one carrier going by, it's the same mailbox, three times.
1:11:34
He he he he has 104 houses on the carriage development,
1:11:40
Carriage Home Development where you pass by it drive.
1:11:43
The whole route come back and hit it and then drive another
1:11:46
three and a half miles back to hit two, other streets that are
1:11:49
at, you know, not even on the route and yet three other three
1:11:53
other routes go past those houses.
1:11:57
So, you know, that goes to speak volumes about the specialist,
1:12:01
they have in the post office. Yeah.
1:12:13
I mean we've got rural carriers Associates who and who and some
1:12:18
of the converted to regular recently that could take the
1:12:22
routes and line them up better than this guy could.
1:12:27
But because he has the years and knowledge, it works out at
1:12:31
District. He has the ear of the Boom in
1:12:34
the district manager saying, this is the way it should be.
1:12:38
What's like? You know what, I get that.
1:12:40
And I remember when my old office when Amazon came in, for
1:12:44
Sunday's and then the dynamic delivery will the clerk's.
1:12:48
Don't know what routes buttered up to what.
1:12:50
So when they put their first initiative with the Rob's
1:12:52
together, we were crisscrossing across town quite a bit and one
1:12:56
of them actually asked me how you know, which ones touch to
1:12:59
what and what areas. So if we can make it easier for
1:13:02
you guys and I did I put them right together for I told her,
1:13:05
you know, this section has should have these three routes
1:13:08
and This one should have these three routes and after that if
1:13:12
flowed much nicer. But yeah, I mean, it's a matter
1:13:16
of a lot of us who knows especially the longer term RCA's
1:13:19
that know which routes, but up to what?
1:13:22
And we know where we could Veer off to do a bump off of another
1:13:26
route and then come back to the one.
1:13:27
We're at because we're right there.
1:13:31
Or here's a unique concept when you're doing routes, why don't
1:13:35
you consult the people who do the routes?
1:13:37
Yeah, exactly. I know that.
1:13:41
I know that's out of the box thinking but well there you go.
1:13:45
Making sense again Bill. I know I know and yo The sign
1:13:54
says common sense and common courtesy stop at these doors.
1:14:03
The portion off this one route on the north east end of town
1:14:07
and they put it onto another route.
1:14:10
That primarily does the Southwest in a tone.
1:14:14
I'm like, well, what the hell now?
1:14:16
You gotta go up this way and then cross town and go back the
1:14:18
other way. What the hell.
1:14:20
Meanwhile you've got three other route in between Vamp.
1:14:30
But like I said, get out, we've got this one route that's 60
1:14:35
hours, at least on in our office, okay?
1:14:39
I mean, it was already like a route when they added the 104
1:14:42
Carriage homes on there. To get to the first start, stop
1:14:48
on the line of travel, you have to go past 104, Carriage homes.
1:14:54
Then you do the whole route. And then when you're done, this
1:14:58
one section, you have to drive a mile and a half to get to the
1:15:01
carriage homes that you already passed once.
1:15:04
Then you drive three and a half miles from The Carriage homes to
1:15:08
go over and hit three streets, which have three carriers going
1:15:14
by them. Yeah.
1:15:18
Now what sense does it make to go right past 100 for homes and
1:15:24
not make those deliveries get the weight out of the vehicle.
1:15:26
Drop your fuel consumption. You wear and tear give those
1:15:30
other three streets to the other three carriers that can handle
1:15:33
more actually one cherry wood handle two of them and in the
1:15:36
second Chariot can handle there's four boxes that's even
1:15:39
funnier. If you get that Screech then
1:15:42
after driving three and a half miles to get to choose treats
1:15:45
and you have to drive another mile and a half to do four
1:15:47
boxes. Are you fucking kidding me?
1:15:56
You can't be that stupid so you can you just don't be pissed
1:16:04
off? Yes.
1:16:08
And they prove you wrong every time.
1:16:10
Just when you think they can't get their IQ lower, they prove
1:16:15
you wrong. Yeah.
1:16:18
How about we work together, folks?
1:16:20
How about that? How about you stop using your
1:16:22
title as your authority to say or do whatever you please.
1:16:28
How about if you cooperate with us Yeah, I know.
1:16:34
I know. I'm sorry.
1:16:36
Mike. Yeah, I went too far.
1:16:46
Got with, wouldn't it be nice if they did?
1:16:50
That would be, you know the company could make money, you
1:16:54
know, we could we could sort out the the riffraff.
1:17:00
I mean, you know, we could make it more efficient, more
1:17:02
profitable people would be happier.
1:17:07
And let me tell you something, let me tell you something years
1:17:10
ago. We came to work and we look
1:17:14
forward to coming to work. We had a good time on the floor,
1:17:18
talking to each other and everything.
1:17:19
And we got oh shit, five times as much mail out the door and
1:17:25
under evaluation and we every every Saturday we have snack
1:17:30
Saturdays and we had rotating people bringing different dishes
1:17:33
in on Saturdays. Different people bringing in,
1:17:37
you know, drinks. Yo, different Refreshments, my
1:17:40
office, my old office, no problem once once a month on a
1:17:46
Friday. My old office, once a month on a
1:17:49
Friday or Saturday morning, we'd all get to breakfast.
1:17:52
Go to breakfast, before we had to report and just hang out and
1:17:56
have a good time and then go to the and then go to the office,
1:18:00
you know it? Yeah.
1:18:04
We used to go out. Out drinking with each other.
1:18:07
Oh yeah. And now it's now it's such a
1:18:09
divisive atmosphere in there that.
1:18:12
You know, there's only three people in my office has ever
1:18:16
been to my house. Two more cops.
1:18:19
Okay, never mind. The other one was the ATF.
1:18:26
I'm sorry. Forget it.
1:18:30
But no. Yeah, it's the it has been such
1:18:33
a divide in, in all offices with especially with management.
1:18:38
You know, when you see a change in management, you see a divided
1:18:41
even more. and it's just, It sucks.
1:18:51
And just the changes that I've seen in the eight years that
1:18:54
I've been around. I said, yeah, we use that.
1:19:02
I know you're not going to believe this but this is true.
1:19:05
Okay. Every year at Christmas time.
1:19:10
We would play the Charlie Brown song.
1:19:13
Is the one with the what's-his-name, pigpen?
1:19:17
Yeah. And, and Sherman doing the
1:19:19
dancing. Hell yeah.
1:19:21
And and and then when it would get to a certain point, me and
1:19:26
Mark Marciano, you, we would break out dancing on the floor.
1:19:30
To the point where I would lay down on the floor, doing the
1:19:32
spin and kicks and everything, when the music Tempo picked up
1:19:36
and then get back up. And it's like, and everybody
1:19:38
would go and have a great time now.
1:19:41
It's got to get to Marshalls. Got It's like, you know oh yeah,
1:19:49
three minutes out of our day to make everybody smile, you know?
1:19:53
Oh yeah, we you know, we have the radio going and everybody's
1:19:57
in a good mood and we're just, you know, we'd be singing to a
1:20:01
song or dancing as we're going to, you know, get their next
1:20:04
parcel out or high five in or hip bump in or elbow bump into,
1:20:09
you know, and just and having a good time.
1:20:12
And then as soon, as management walks in and has to go turn the
1:20:15
radio down because I need to concentrate Okay.
1:20:23
How dare we be in a good mood? And yeah, have fun at work.
1:20:31
I assume visor tell me, you know, this stop talking put my
1:20:34
face in the case and I turned around and I said I'm
1:20:37
ambidextrous I can talk in case the same time.
1:20:43
That's the same supervisor that jumped on our case, one that one
1:20:47
Christmas time and I stepped out of my case and I go all the way
1:20:49
down the floor you know, you're the only person I know can suck
1:20:53
the spirit right out of Christmas.
1:20:56
Hey and I'll tell you what the oohs and the aahs even the city
1:21:00
carrier get my tattoo artist but he keeps saying he goes, you
1:21:08
know, that would be a good because I need to write a book
1:21:12
or make a movie. A about the burned-out postal
1:21:14
worker. He goes.
1:21:15
I'm sure I got something there. I haven't seen him in a year and
1:21:24
he's all like, so how's it going?
1:21:26
Yeah, you know, I still work too much.
1:21:33
Oh yeah. It's We had a carrier, he was a
1:21:39
postal baby right out of high. School joined.
1:21:41
The post office was on civil service, so you know, he had 38
1:21:48
years in 38 years. From 18 to 38 out.
1:21:54
Yeah, he wasn't even 58 yet, and the parcel started coming.
1:22:00
And it was it was hellacious Christmas and the week before
1:22:05
Christmas. He just he turns around and
1:22:07
comes in. He thought to hamper sitting
1:22:09
there, he said, I retire and walked out to have a shit that's
1:22:15
a light day anymore. Well, that's we're still getting
1:22:20
mail to yeah. But yeah, he just said, I quit,
1:22:29
I retire and walked out these evaluations and some of these
1:22:39
routes lose quite a bit because maybe they did have Amazon, and
1:22:44
of the last meal count and the mail volume was higher than it
1:22:48
was, you know, five years ago or five years ago was higher than
1:22:53
it is now. And You know like you know Bill
1:22:57
and I have talked you know our personal volume is less what
1:23:00
month month and a half. Is just dwindled right now.
1:23:04
Yeah. Or what about the people who've
1:23:08
had special counts you know in the last couple years you know
1:23:13
they're going to get hit right in the crotch and they're going
1:23:17
to say I'm a I'm an 8th route. Imagine, I've got a guy who's a
1:23:23
j route. Jumped up to a k route because
1:23:26
of the FSS withdrawal and he still gets done in five hours a
1:23:31
day. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what
1:23:35
my time, he gets unstuck in his breath in his teeth are going to
1:23:38
be a disaster and because yeah. Having boxes that are inactive
1:23:48
and having them marked active', if you're not delivering to
1:23:50
those suckers that you, it's going to catch up with you.
1:23:54
Mmm. Yep.
1:23:56
Adding your route is not going to be as easy as it used to be.
1:24:00
No, no, not at all. And, you know, this is, this is
1:24:06
part of the, you know, these efficiency Engineers, they've
1:24:09
been working years and years figuring out all the little
1:24:12
tricks that you know, rural carriers use.
1:24:14
Yeah. And there they you know, they're
1:24:17
slowly eliminate them, they haven't gotten rid of all them
1:24:19
yet, but they're pretty damn close.
1:24:22
It's like we're doing this last round of me.
1:24:26
Map II. We had a route that she came
1:24:28
back. I told me, you know, it had
1:24:30
cleared the first time we did it and she come back and told me it
1:24:33
was given, you know, was coming up right again.
1:24:37
And so I went in and looked at it and sure enough there's a box
1:24:41
that should not be active. That was active.
1:24:45
And the reason is throwing a red is because it's a new build.
1:24:49
All that's there is the stone foundation.
1:24:54
There are the brick Foundation. There's Is nothing else there
1:24:57
yet? Why she already had it added in
1:25:00
an active? I don't know.
1:25:03
But there is literally nothing there but a stone block
1:25:06
Foundation I'll do you one better.
1:25:10
The Cara Jones, I told you about the Builder.
1:25:14
Put me put in one extra CBU that he doesn't need the carrier, has
1:25:21
it on their system, but there's nothing going in there.
1:25:25
There's no houses for it. Okay, I mean developments done
1:25:30
and the carrier's wondering why this thing keeps coming up like
1:25:32
that. It's like you know it doesn't
1:25:35
exist and they're like, What's not?
1:25:38
My fault. I still open it every day.
1:25:42
Okay. All right, I quit.
1:25:45
Well, I had one of her my for my Ox route to that came back and
1:25:48
she asked me, so I ran in real quick and the office and looked
1:25:53
at it and I went, oh, and I've had just went to clicked on it.
1:25:56
Moved it inactive. I said I said the only reason is
1:26:00
because that address was initially.
1:26:03
Put for some reason. It was the very first address in
1:26:06
the edit book, even though it should be in the middle of the
1:26:08
route. And so we had move that And then
1:26:12
for some reason they got marked act.
1:26:13
If I said no, it doesn't have a box yet.
1:26:15
I said they just built a house on that property, and it's been
1:26:18
up for sale for over, but there's no actual physical
1:26:20
boxes, and that's an active one, and it should be that way in the
1:26:23
book. But yeah, it just Yeah, it'll be
1:26:30
interesting to see how this goes.
1:26:31
Like I said, those that are patting routes so it'll
1:26:34
eventually come back and get you.
1:26:36
Hmm. Oh, back to that one.
1:26:40
When you said they have a sea view that's not in, use it all
1:26:43
the time and outgoing mail fought.
1:26:45
Yeah. But and outgoing mail slot.
1:26:49
Yep. And do bars a lockers Well. he's
1:26:55
not going to use the parcel lockers because there's no one
1:26:58
there getting mail, but it with the outgoing mail slot, that's
1:27:03
justification enough to have to open the door to verify that no
1:27:06
one put outgoing mail in there. Boy.
1:27:11
You would, you would stretch a boogie all the way down to your
1:27:13
kneecaps, wouldn't you? You have three others?
1:27:27
Is not used completely because there's no more houses.
1:27:32
So why would anybody go to the fourth one?
1:27:34
If there's no mail going into it?
1:27:37
Nobody has an address in that one.
1:27:40
You would be surprised. Gotta keep it locked up.
1:27:44
No, I would. Well then you got to check the
1:27:49
out. The empty parcel lock.
1:27:50
Well, I get Josh's Point too. Your you got to, you got to
1:27:58
check that out, going mail slot, unless you block it off because
1:28:02
you will have people who will put mail in it.
1:28:05
Not necessarily people who are not necessarily people who live
1:28:09
there, but you might see somebody come in and say, oh, I
1:28:14
got something to drop off. Look, there's there's an
1:28:18
outgoing mail slot, and then, you know, that letter sits for a
1:28:21
couple of months because she didn't Because you didn't check
1:28:28
it but but I would block it off. I went I'm kind of with you
1:28:32
Bill. I would just I block it off so
1:28:35
it's not just the sign saying don't put mail in here.
1:28:37
I would actually physically block it off so that they can't
1:28:40
put Malin. I mean, you know, you do not
1:28:50
going to use the unit ever ever. You know but hey you know what
1:28:57
do I know it's like when they put some new CD use in my
1:29:01
development and the replacing him in the guy, had the one up
1:29:04
and he's almost ready. This directly the other one and
1:29:09
I said to my so you have a problem.
1:29:10
Here is the what's that nice as well?
1:29:13
This is a 12 unit CPU and he goes, yeah and I said you
1:29:15
replace the 16 unit 1, where's the other four boxes going?
1:29:21
Hey, I'm just doing what I'm told.
1:29:25
Okay, you keep doing that, you know, there's eight houses that
1:29:29
here that aren't going to get, you know mail because you're
1:29:32
putting up the wrong units. fortunately, they hadn't taken
1:29:39
the old ones down yet, so, All right hand, that gonna know guys
1:29:45
who've been going for about an hour and a half.
1:29:47
We're ready to wind it down. Yes.
1:29:53
My phone's the last five days of this many male surveyor Upon Us.
1:30:01
Josh your final words of for the night I wasn't gonna go there.
1:30:13
This is the last five days, the final stretch.
1:30:18
At this point don't get yourself overwhelmed.
1:30:21
If you do take a step back, take a breath, step back in.
1:30:29
I wish everyone good luck with the end result will see you next
1:30:40
week. Mike Folks, do the think if you
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have been to the training through Zoom or through,
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however, you did it in your, in your office, your district will
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never do the things they told you to do.
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Count everything, don't ask for anything out rate.
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If you're not asking for something outrageous, they
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should be willing to give it to you again.
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Bill, I know it's that word should be, but that's how I'm,
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that's how I'm approaching it. Again.
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It's I said, I was a little dissolute.
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I'm kind of I'm in this bad place right now because I
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thought, I thought this was actually going to work out for
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us and It's looking like the post office is proving me wrong
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so just do the things you're supposed to do and you know,
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we'll see where it will see what happens when they when they get
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the final numbers. And don't forget to set your
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clocks ahead next weekend. Oh yeah.
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I don't ready. Yeah.
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It's coming over the number now, but I just didn't know when I
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have my State Booster next weekend, but I will be back in
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time for next week's episode. So yeah, I mean, maybe I'll be
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interesting to see what type of things I hear there as we wind
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down the mini mail survey for the week prior.
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So I'm kind of I'm not. Yeah, kind of looking forward to
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it in a way. Yeah.
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Yeah. And Bill finish this off
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tonight. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, I
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don't know what to say that the mini mail surveys halfway over.
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You should be doing everything you can to the possibly, be
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inclusive of everything, you're entitled to everything.
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That should be counted. All your distance is But the
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pragmatism, my my being is that, you know, we're pretty much, you
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know, on the cuff of having this fail miserably.
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So just do, do what you do every day, you know, try to, you know,
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protect yourself and your route, your paycheck.
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Other than that, you know, when you go out be safe, watch the
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kids, Watch Dogs, Watch the traffic.
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Get your ass home. You're the most important
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delivery today. We care about you and your
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family cares about you. So, you know, make sure you make
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that last delivery every day, okay?
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Guys, we will be back next weekend, have a good week and
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may you survive this catastrophe of what we call wrecks and have
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a good night.