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Conferences Crack Down on NFL Transfers, Arch Manning Camp Soundbites, Goodbye to NFL Pro Bowl · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: Hump Day, Hump Day, Hump Day, Hump Day. Kind of
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  Speaker 1: missed that commercial with the camel running around with a
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  Speaker 1: Hump Day, Hump Day, Hump Day.
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  Speaker 2: Hump Day?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully we help you get over the hump here on
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday. Good afternoon. Welcome to Sports Radio AM 13
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  Speaker 1: Under the Zone to The Craig Way Show. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Craig Way. I do thank you very much. for
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  Speaker 1: joining us. And I always say it on Wednesday, if
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday is truly your hump day and you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: get over that hump along with us, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully we can get you there on that. For those
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  Speaker 1: of you for whom Wednesday is just starting the work week,
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  Speaker 1: and the producer, Jake Herman, says he knows a few
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  Speaker 1: of those people, right? You know some people start the
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  Speaker 1: work week on Fridays.
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  Speaker 2: I know a couple people, a couple people that are
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  Speaker 1: Okay. All right. That start on Friday?
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  Speaker 2: That start on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Start on Wednesday. Okay. Well, if it's the start of
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  Speaker 1: your work week, hey, hopefully we can make it a
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  Speaker 1: little easier for you. And for those of you who
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  Speaker 1: are at the end of your work week, hey, good
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  Speaker 1: on you. Good for you. Hopefully you're getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: enjoy the next couple of days after that. We're with
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  Speaker 1: you each and every weekday afternoon from 2 p.m. to
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  Speaker 1: 5 p.m. And we have things up on the program.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of college football obviously discussed with everything going
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  Speaker 1: on with this SEC and Big Ten now versus anybody
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  Speaker 1: wanting to return from the NFL. We'll have details on
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  Speaker 1: that in a few moments. Also, we're going to hear
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  Speaker 1: from Longhorn players. In specific, we're going to hear quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit from Arch Manning. We're going to hear from
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  Speaker 1: the Texas quarterback who met with the media yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: he's pretty glib and pretty relaxed. And this is what
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of said about Arch Manning. all along that
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of been just, you know, laid back and,
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  Speaker 1: and comfortable and, and, uh, seemingly what's the old word,
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  Speaker 1: the old phrase about being comfortable in your own skin,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Uh, so he has been feeling
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  Speaker 1: better about things. So, um, and ready to go with
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  Speaker 1: a brand new football season. So, uh, we'll hear from
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  Speaker 1: March Manning. Uh, we do have inconceivable this hour. So that's,
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  Speaker 1: that's coming up as well. And, uh, We do have
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  Speaker 1: a fast food, junk food update in that. And we've
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  Speaker 1: got some other bizarre things that happen that can only
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  Speaker 1: be involved with Inconceivable. As I mentioned, the producer is
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  Speaker 1: Jay Kerman. Where are you on your television watching? Have
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  Speaker 1: you watched the latest episode of Ted Lasso, the one
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  Speaker 1: that came out late last week?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm caught up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I caught up over the back half of last week
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  Speaker 2: to the new season. I'm going to give it a shot, Craig.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: The show.
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  Speaker 2: I owe a shot to it. Has it found the spark,
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  Speaker 2: the lightning in the bottle that was captured by the
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  Speaker 2: first few seasons yet?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. No, I agree with you. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with you. And I've kind of come to the conclusion
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  Speaker 1: that the characterization to me kind of really is more
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  Speaker 1: important than the storyline. Because the storyline... is a little
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  Speaker 1: slow to get going. But if you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: all the way back to season one, it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of like that. It was a little slow, and then
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  Speaker 1: everything accelerated after that. So maybe it will. We'll find
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  Speaker 1: out as we go forward. But, you know, at least
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  Speaker 1: it's out there. I think the next episode is either
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  Speaker 1: tonight or tomorrow. Yeah, it should be tonight. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that'll be going on as well. Okay, I want
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  Speaker 1: to jump right into this college football thing here. And
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  Speaker 1: then after a break, then we'll hear From Arch Manning,
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  Speaker 1: we'll also hear from D'Amico Ryans, the Houston Texans head coach.
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  Speaker 1: We've been hearing both from Ryans and from Cowboys head coach,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. Tomorrow, by the way, on the program, Isaiah Stanback,
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  Speaker 1: who works on the Cowboys preseason games, works for NFL Network,
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  Speaker 1: and has worked with me on state high school football
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  Speaker 1: championship games, will join us. He does a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys studio-related content. and television shows. So Isaiah Stanback will
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  Speaker 1: join us on the program tomorrow. But I want to
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  Speaker 1: jump right to college football. And we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: this yesterday. The Big Ten had their statement put out
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  Speaker 1: yesterday where they were not in favor of allowing anyone
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  Speaker 1: who had been on an NFL roster or had tried
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  Speaker 1: out or had a contract with the NFL to return
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  Speaker 1: with eligibility to the SEC. I mean, to the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 1: The SEC, in a much more peculiar and maybe delicate predicament,
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  Speaker 1: because the poster child, as he's being described, case for
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  Speaker 1: this is Daquan Wright, who had been the tight end
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  Speaker 1: at Ole Miss, tried to catch on with the Cleveland Browns,
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  Speaker 1: was under contract, but never appeared in a game for Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: dressed out, was in uniform, and was under contract for that,
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  Speaker 1: and did not make the team, released, and so trying
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  Speaker 1: then to transfer to LSU. The SEC on Monday night
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  Speaker 1: had a gathering of its school presidents, and they weren't
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  Speaker 1: real happy with the idea. And then last night, they
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  Speaker 1: went farther in their opposition to athletes leaving the NFL
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  Speaker 1: and returning to college They swiftly, the SEC did, passed
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  Speaker 1: a new rule that gives Commissioner Greg Sankey full authority
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  Speaker 1: to be able to basically say, you're not eligible. You
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  Speaker 1: can't do it. You're not eligible with what they did.
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  Speaker 1: So they were very, very adamant about this and have said, really,
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  Speaker 1: that there's nobody that should be eligible coming back from
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  Speaker 1: an NFL camp. And it was, it was something, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, it started off really as a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: the university presidents and they had a video conference on that.
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  Speaker 1: And then following that they went, they went further on
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  Speaker 1: that with the ruling that they had yesterday to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this. And as a result of it, they, they
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  Speaker 1: made their statement very, very clear on, you know, what they,
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  Speaker 1: what they will allow and what they will not allow. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin had talked about, he thought it was really, uh,
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  Speaker 1: a double standard that was going on in college football.
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  Speaker 1: But the SEC made no bones about it that they
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  Speaker 1: were definitely not going to allow this. And I would imagine,
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  Speaker 1: and we've talked about this, that this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be something, Jake, that I think it's probably pretty safe
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  Speaker 1: to say is probably going to wind up in the courtrooms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Pete Famel, who I was watching one
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  Speaker 2: of his kind of SportsCenter hits about it. He says
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  Speaker 2: that what's going on behind the scenes, it actually echoes
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  Speaker 2: what Lane Kiffin said yesterday when he was visiting with
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  Speaker 2: Pat McAfee. We heard the soundbite on the show. LSU
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  Speaker 2: is just the one that had the first recruiting battle
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  Speaker 2: won over these guys. It's like we saw in college basketball.
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  Speaker 2: All of these coaches at the end of the day
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  Speaker 2: work for their own schools. If there's an advantage, it's
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  Speaker 2: their job to exploit it. Joey McGuire last night said
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  Speaker 2: the same thing, that he would be pursuing those types
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  Speaker 2: of players for Texas Tech. And why not? He sees
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  Speaker 2: Cole Hudson rejoin the Longhorns. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: one of those things that, much like we saw in
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  Speaker 2: college basketball, teams will make the NCAA, or make the
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  Speaker 2: courts in this case, call the foul, as Greg Tepper
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  Speaker 2: described on the show here yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now let me tell you, and I think you're
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  Speaker 1: in agreement with this, there is a vast difference between
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  Speaker 1: Daquan Wright's situation and Cole Hudson.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Cole Hudson never signed a contract. He was never in
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  Speaker 1: a training camp, like you said, went to the mini
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  Speaker 1: camp in the spring, was released long before then. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the key crux here is not being
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  Speaker 1: under contract. I think that's one of the things that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be the deal. So with a step-by-step explanation,
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  Speaker 1: the SEC announced, Its institutions are, quote, not permitted to
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  Speaker 1: have an athlete on its roster who has, one, previously
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  Speaker 1: declared for the NFL, NBA, or WNBA draft and did
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  Speaker 1: not appropriately withdraw. Two, signed a contract with an NFL
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  Speaker 1: or other professional football league, NBA, G League, or WNBA team. Three,
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  Speaker 1: been listed on an NFL or other professional football league, NBA,
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  Speaker 1: G League, or WNBA, or affiliate roster. And the announcement
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  Speaker 1: stated that Greg Sankey, quote, is authorized to enforce this
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  Speaker 1: expectation with penalties against member institutions. An SEC spokesperson later
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  Speaker 1: told ESPN, this coming from Heather Dinnage's piece, that the
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  Speaker 1: penalties are, quote, to be announced as to what those
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  Speaker 1: would be.
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  Speaker 2: Did you read Seth Emerson's piece on this in The Athletic, Craig?
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  Speaker 1: Not yet. I saw it, but I hadn't read it yet.
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  Speaker 2: How's this? The plaintiffs in the Louisiana case comparing the
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  Speaker 2: SEC's actions to cartel-like conduct.
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  Speaker 1: I did see that quote.
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  Speaker 2: When conferences attempt to create their own spur-of-the-moment rules and
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  Speaker 2: responses to courts and joining those same rules at the
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  Speaker 2: NCAA level so this is just beginning and it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be resolved before week one I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and clearly, both sides are dug in enough that
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  Speaker 1: this is going to wind up in the courtroom. We
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  Speaker 1: were talking about it with Greg Tepper yesterday from Dave
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  Speaker 1: Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. This thing is going to climb
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  Speaker 1: the legal mountain. I don't think there's any doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how high up it'll go and how
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  Speaker 1: it would affect going into this year. Like he said,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be ready. After all, The
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  Speaker 1: NFL starts in 10 days, or excuse me, the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: college football starts in 10 days overall in a big way.
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  Speaker 1: It actually starts in three days for a few schools,
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  Speaker 1: including TCU's playing North Carolina over in Ireland. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: dig a little more into that. But coming up. We'll
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  Speaker 1: hear from Orange Manning, the Longhorns quarterback. We'll do that.
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  Speaker 2: heard of that it turns out it was short-lived.
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  Speaker 1: a a chart topper but that song certainly was show
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  Speaker 1: and tell. There's a lot of folks who are waiting
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  Speaker 1: to see Arch Manning show an awful lot for them.
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  Speaker 1: And yesterday, he met with the media, and one of
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  Speaker 1: the popular conversations that they had to give and take
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  Speaker 1: with Arch was about something that we've heard Longhorn's head coach,
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  Speaker 1: Steve Sarkeesian, point out, and not just Sark, teammates as well,
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  Speaker 1: saying that Arch, when he wants to, can... can get
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  Speaker 1: down in the mosh pit with you a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and trash talk, that he has no hesitation about it.
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  Speaker 1: And so Arch was asked, are you a good trash talker?
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  Speaker 1: And where does all this come from? I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Probably my dad and brother growing up playing basketball in
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  Speaker 5: the front yard. That's where it started.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Meanwhile, Justin Cryer, the transfer linebacker in from Florida State,
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  Speaker 1: said that he can, when he wants to be, Arch
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  Speaker 1: can be a pretty annoying trash talker. That message was
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  Speaker 1: delivered to Manning.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes sense. He's always the one right in
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  Speaker 5: front of me, so he's who I go after a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Is it easier for Arch to trash
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  Speaker 1: talk like when he's got the black jersey on? And
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  Speaker 1: you've seen it in practice, but quarterbacks have the black
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  Speaker 1: jersey on. That is the no contact. He can't hit
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback. There's also the green jerseys. That's the non-contact ones,
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  Speaker 1: the non-tackling ones when they're coming off injury. But the
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  Speaker 1: black one, hands off. You don't tackle or sack or
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  Speaker 1: hit anybody in the black jersey, and Arch obviously wears one.
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  Speaker 1: So is it a little bit easier to trash talk
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  Speaker 1: when they can't hit you? Yeah, that also helps a lot.
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  Speaker 1: They don't get to hit me during practice, so I
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  Speaker 1: can kind of say whatever I want.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so then it went back to, some of
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  Speaker 1: the issues from the scrimmage on Saturday. And you heard
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  Speaker 1: Sark talk about it. There were some things he liked.
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  Speaker 1: There were some players who stepped up and performed well.
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  Speaker 1: And then by the same token, there were some who
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  Speaker 1: did not do well. And parts of series with units,
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  Speaker 1: both on the offensive side and the defensive side, that
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  Speaker 1: did not perform well at all. So as a result
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  Speaker 1: of this, And Arch was asked, the heat, was that
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  Speaker 1: a factor? Did it get to him and the offense
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was hot on Saturday. I don't think the offense,
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  Speaker 5: especially me, didn't have a great day. But I think
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  Speaker 5: we responded well and had a good day today. So
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  Speaker 5: it's part of that. Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So it's better there. Now, that conversation we've heard often
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  Speaker 1: about teams being player-led. How player-led is this team?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's been good. The cool thing is
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  Speaker 5: this year we have a lot of leaders. So just...
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to just rely on yourself. We got Hollywood.
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  Speaker 5: We got Conor Robertson, Goosby, Brandon Baker, a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: guys who stepped up in leadership roles, and it's been fun.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: If you go to the University of Texas athletic website, texaslonghorns.com,
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  Speaker 1: and then they have that LHN page, remember, even though
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  Speaker 1: the linear, linear, over-the-air television network, Longhorn Network, went away
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  Speaker 1: once Texas went into the SEC, even though that went away,
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  Speaker 1: the university and the athletic department held on to the
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  Speaker 1: LHN labeling for a lot of their video content. And
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  Speaker 1: on that page, on the content page there, there are
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  Speaker 1: some things that you hear because they'll have certain players
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  Speaker 1: mic'd up at certain times. One of those is hearing
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  Speaker 1: Manning yell out, call out, butter, butter. So what does
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  Speaker 1: butter mean?
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  Speaker 5: Cole Lord, a quarterback, he played here a few years ago,
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  Speaker 5: used to say that. And I kept saying it during
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  Speaker 5: round center, kind of, got ahead of me I said
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  Speaker 5: a lot more than I thought.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah maybe it's an Arch version of Omaha Uncle Peyton
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  Speaker 1: Omaha you know that yeah yeah maybe I don't know
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that yeah maybe Cam Coleman of
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  Speaker 1: course has produced some highlight plays since transferring him from
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  Speaker 1: Auburn and Arch was asked what Coleman does to help
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  Speaker 1: pick up the entire offense.
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  Speaker 5: Cam just the way he works and him as a person,
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  Speaker 5: has helped the other receiver, and they're all close. The
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  Speaker 5: way he attacks every day has definitely motivated the rest
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  Speaker 5: of the receivers, and it's been a fun time since
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  Speaker 5: he's been here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's one receiver. Emmitt Mosley, and this is something
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  Speaker 1: Sark talked about yesterday. He's very excited. He said two
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  Speaker 1: of the hardest workers on the football team are Grayson
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  Speaker 1: Littleton and Emmitt Mosley, and he talked about The fact
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  Speaker 1: that Littleton coming off that outstanding freshman campaign, really anxious
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  Speaker 1: and eager to see what he brings and what he
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  Speaker 1: has shown so far. Mosley, he said, if you remember
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  Speaker 1: at this time last year, he wasn't even practicing. He couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: He was still coming off the injury and the surgery
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  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff after transferring him from Stanford.
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  Speaker 1: So he's been going great guns. And then the really
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  Speaker 1: unique element about all this is that the two have
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  Speaker 1: gone mano a mano. in practice with Littleton matching up
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  Speaker 1: against him. So with Mosley now healthy and bringing that
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  Speaker 1: extra dimension, Arch Manning was asked what it is about
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  Speaker 1: Emmitt Mosley V that really is valuable.
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  Speaker 5: Emmitt's had a really good fall camp. He practices his
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  Speaker 5: ass off. Sorry. But he's a really good player, and
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  Speaker 5: I think he's going to have a great year.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that's said about Arch Manning is that the
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  Speaker 1: guy loves to practice. We've heard Sark say it. We've
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  Speaker 1: heard his teammates say it. So, Arch, why do you
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  Speaker 1: love practice i think it's easier for quarterbacks say they
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: love practice because you don't have to get hit you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: don't have to go through you're not really sore after
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: practice but it's fun and our practices are intense um
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of times you know you walk off the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: practice field and you're mentally and physically drained so um
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: you got to bring it every day but it's uh
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun okay all right uh the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: uh training camp the fall camp workouts for texas have
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: been described in glowing terms not only by the head
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: coach but by the players and the position coaches as well.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So what has made this a very good training camp?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I think just the team coming together. We're a really
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: close team.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Obviously, some days are better than others, but I feel
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: like we've responded and been up to the challenge every day.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's one thing. And then there's that
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: leadership element. We're hearing different guys being described in the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: leadership thing. On the defensive side, there's no doubt that
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: one of those seniors or one of those leaders is
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: going to be Colin Simmons, the junior edge rusher. And
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: so Manning was asked how he and Simmons have taken
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the team to another level. being leaders I guess now on.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: The past what is it three weeks we've been playing
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I've been having to go against Colin now we're on
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: the same team so it's a lot more fun tell
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: you that.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah okay all right um also asked for his thoughts
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Trevor Goosby bouncing back from the from the bone bruise
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and then Andre Kojo stepping in along that offensive front
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: His impressions of both.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Good. Goosey's done a really good job still staying engaged.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: He's going to be back, ready to go. And Kojo's
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: done a really good job filling in. Obviously, he had
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: an injury last year, and the way he's come back
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: from that and still not missing a beat has been
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: really encouraging.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So much has been said about the fact that, you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Arch has been in the system now as the starter.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: for a full year he's got that full year under
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: his belt so is it a little bit easier for
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: arch to be more of himself personality wise and production
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: performance wise on the field now that he has had
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that starting tag on him and the fact that he
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: has been the starting quarterback and has had it in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the system and has done.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: It for a year yeah i think i got to
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: remind myself to just continue to be myself there's a
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: lot of noise and trying to be aware of everything
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: and not let stuff get to my head and just
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: continue to be me.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, and then one more from Arch this hour. We're
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: going to hear from him throughout the course of the show,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: but he was also asked, how does he remind himself?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: You just heard him saying just being himself. And I
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: think it would be safe to say that there would
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: be those who would wonder how much he can be
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: himself given the spotlight that surrounds him seemingly every moment.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: So the question for him then was, how does he
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: remind himself to, and I first heard this phrase uttered
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: by a major league baseball player decades ago, stay within myself,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So how does he go about
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: reminding himself to stay within himself and to continue to
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: be true to himself, both on the field production-wise and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: then personality-wise?
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think leaning on my faith is the main thing.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: And then having my brother here and having friends outside
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: of football just keep me to remind me to be
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: myself and not take everything too seriously.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll hear some more from Arch coming up in
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the next couple hours, next hour and then the hour
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: after that. I did want to bring you a little
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: bit from D'Amico Ryan's, the Texan's, They get ready for
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: their final preseason game this week, taking on the Carolina Panthers,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and they had a joint practice with the Panthers. Now,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: we all know that joint practices sometimes can, let's just say,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: get a little spicy. They can get fisticuffs or things just,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: tempers flare and all that. But Ryan's was pretty complimentary
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: on his thoughts overall on how that joint practice went
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with Carolina.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: Today was a really, really great day. I thought we
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: got great competitive work versus the Panthers. They showed up,
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: very gracious hosts. Thankful for them having us. I like
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: the way our guys showed up from start to finish today.
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: We executed really well.
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: Guys played physical, and it was a productive practice on
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: both sides. Both teams came in with the right mindset.
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: Appreciate Dave for how he handled it. Really great operation.
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: Practice was ran efficiently, and we got a lot of
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: productive work. So it was exactly what we wanted.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Coaches are always looking for playmakers, and he was asked
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: about Daniel Hunter and had no hesitation whatsoever talking about
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Hunter making plays.
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: Daniel is a problem. He continues to be a problem.
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: That's why I love having him and Will. When you
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: have two guys off the edge, you can be as
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: disruptive as they are.
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: It makes it hard on offenses. It makes it hard for.
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: Them to operate on the timing that they want to
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: operate on. So, Daniil, I saw a few plays. He's
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: back there in the backfield a lot, so it was
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: great to see that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And then one other guy, remember they traded for Keyshawn
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Boutte and his thoughts on that deal and getting Boutte
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: involved in the system.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: Adam Keyshawn was a It's a big get for us.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: We know we lost a significant player for us in
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: Jaden Higgins, and it's hard to replace him. When you
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: try to go out and find a guy with the
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: caliber of Kayshaun, we've played against Kayshaun multiple times over
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: the past couple years. He's contained to make plays time
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: and time again.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: He showed up.
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: He's a young player, still an ascending player with a
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: lot to improve upon, a lot to grow.
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: So I'm excited to work with.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: A young player who still has a very bright and
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: promising future, but he has that big play-making ability already.
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: So it's been great to have him so far.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: We'll get him up and rolling here as the week continues.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: We'll hear some more coming up in the 3 o'clock
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: hour and also the 4 o'clock hour from D'Amico Ryan,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the Texans head coach. Like we said, we've been hearing
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: from Texans and Cowboys. Both head coaches throughout the course
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of the week and will continue to do some of that.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: All right. Up next, we shift to inconceivable here on
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a Yacht Rock Wednesday afternoon. That will do. Coming up
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: right here on Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and the IR Radio app. Second hour of the program
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: here on Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone. Craig
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Way with you alongside the producer, Jay Kerman. Glad to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: have you with us. We'll be up until 5 o'clock
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: this afternoon. Now, in the first hour of the program,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: we brought up the latest that had come down from
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the SEC after initially the Big Ten had said that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it would not allow football players to return from the NFL. Now,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that came down yesterday, yesterday during the day. The Big
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Ten passed a rule. that would stop players returning from
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the NFL from playing for one of its schools. I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: really like what one of our texters, and forgive me
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: who the texter was, might have been CPAL, I'm not sure,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: but it was one of the texters who said it
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: really blurs the lines. Everything I've seen since then from
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten and the SEC is using that phraseology.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Whoever the texter was, you had it first. We got
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: it from multiple texters. Yeah, that it was blurring the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: lines on this. So the way the Big Ten laid
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: it out yesterday was that any player who had declared
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: for the NFL draft and did not withdraw, appeared on
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: an NFL roster, or signed a contract with a pro league,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: cannot be on a Big Ten roster. That was what
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the league announced. in a statement yesterday. That came out
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. There was some initial dismay, disillusionment, and disagreement
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: from the SEC on this on Monday. Not with the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Big Ten, but with the same thing that the Big
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Ten had a problem with about players trying to return
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: from the NFL. The Big Ten's athletic directors unanimously approved
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the rule. It then received unanimous approval later yesterday from
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the conference's faculty athletic representatives. And it went further to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: say that any teams, now they got a little more
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: specific than the SEC did about the punishment phase, but
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: what they said was that any teams in violation of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the rule would be subject to its head coach being
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: suspended for 50% of its remaining gains plus an undisclosed fine.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's making Jim Harbaugh's punishment look mild by comparison.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Cheeseburger gate. The conference, here was the quote that they
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: came down with. The Big Ten conference announced Tuesday. The
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: unanimous adoption of a conference rule to prohibit football players
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: who have signed a professional contract or on a professional
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: roster at any point or declared for the NFL draft
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: as an underclassman without withdrawing from maintaining eligibility for athletic
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: competition at a conference institution. The conference continues to evaluate
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: potential rules restricting professional athletes in other sports from conference competition.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So this obviously comes in the wake of Daquan Wright.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And then also, by the way, Xavier and Harris, who
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: were leaving their teams to try to join Lane Kiffin's
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: roster at LSU. Ryan and Harris both played for Kiffin
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: at Ole Miss, planning to return to college, thanks to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that court order that seems to be creating some havoc
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: around college football by allowing athletes to an unexpected fifth
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: year of eligibility. The players can regain their college eligibility
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: if they terminate the pro contracts and repay any pro earnings. Now,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Wright cleared NFL waivers yesterday and was expected to sign
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: with LSU today. The SEC, however, came back. We're going
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to get to their statement that came down last night.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: The NCAA said in a statement that court rulings that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: grant fifth-year eligibility are having a destabilizing effect on college sports. Now,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: this is where things start getting very, very.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Rhetorical. There's a lot of rhetoric flying around in the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: name of college football, both on the side of the
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: NCAA member institutions and on the side of those who
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: are trying to gain another year of eligibility. The quotes
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: went on to say, courts across the country granting relief
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to ineligible athletes who already had every opportunity to compete
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: in college, sometimes without even having a hearing, are failing
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to appreciate the destabilizing effect the rulings are having on
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: college sports. The lawyers... bringing these cases seemingly won't be
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: satisfied until every professional athlete can treat college sports as
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a fallback option, regardless of the opportunities it strips from
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: both those who will never have a chance to begin
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: their collegiate sports experience and those who are currently on
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: campus working out with the team and attending classes. Thankfully,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Congress can right this wrong by passing the bipartisan Protect
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: College Sports Act and ensure student athletes can have a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: level playing field with rules that apply fairly to everyone.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: All right, so that was what they had to say yesterday.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Then last night, the SEC took it a step further.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: They went beyond just football. And again, the rhetoric was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: rocking and rolling because they started off by saying they
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: had unanimous opposition to athletes leaving the NFL and returning
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to college teams. They really quickly passed this new conference
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: rule that gives the commissioner, Greg Sankey, full authority to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: enforce it with penalties. So the SEC did go farther
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: than the Big Ten, prohibiting anyone who has previously declared
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: from professional basketball from rejoining college athletics without appropriately withdrawing.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So the vote was 16-0. Now, think about that. The
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: vote was 16-0. One of the 16 schools is LSU. Obviously,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: we could have guessed that Ole Miss was going to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: vote in favor of it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Wait, we've got, sorry to interrupt, we've got another scoop
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: on this.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: LSU actually abstained from the vote now. This is a
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: report that came out just a little while ago.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it couldn't have been 16-0 as was reported
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: by ESPN. It had to be 15-0 with one abstention.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the reporting now is that it
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: was 15-0.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Right, with one abstention. Yeah. Okay, all right. Still, nobody
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: voted against it. It's just an abstention there. So they
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: went step by step on this. The SEC announcing its
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: intentions are, quote, not permitted to have an athlete on
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: its roster who falls into one of the following categories. One,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: previously declared for the NFL, NBA, or WNBA draft and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: did not appropriately withdraw. I've had some people ask me,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: what does that mean? Appropriately withdraw. You withdraw... from the university.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: You withdraw, or excuse me, withdraw from your intent to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: whether you were going to be involved with a professional team.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And that gets into the second part. Any athlete who
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: signed a contract with an NFL or other professional football league, NBA,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: G League, or WNBA, or affiliate team. Or three, been
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: listed on an NFL or other professional football league roster,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: or an NBA, G League, or WNBA roster. The announcement
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: stated Sankey, quote, is authorized to enforce this expectation with
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: penalties against member institutions, end quote. Now, an SEC spokesperson
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: later told ESPN the penalties are, quote, to be announced.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different than what the Big
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Ten said. Hey, you can lose up to half of
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: your remaining games, plus face it fine. The SEC is
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: saying we'll cross that bridge when we get to it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: is what they're saying. Now, as I mentioned, there's been
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of rhetoric around flying about all of this.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin saying that these players are being deprived of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: their opportunity. They would not have tried to make it
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in the NFL had this option been available to them.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And again, at the crux of this is the five
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: for five rule. And you talk about unintended consequences. It
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me when the NIL ruling first came down.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind that college football programs,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: head coaches, their general managers, the athletic directors, university presidents,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: had no idea the Pandora's box that was going to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: be open when NIL was introduced, the levels and extremes
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that it would go to. And now we hear terms
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like guardrails and prohibitions and things like that that have
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: to happen with regard to NIL. Well, so far that
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: hasn't happened. So it kind of reminds me of that
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: in terms of this being uncharted territory, a lot of
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: folks not having any idea the route that this was
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: going to take.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: So you had to, you had to start the rule
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: at some point though.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Right. You had to, you had to pick a date and,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I guess I don't understand why it couldn't
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: have been further out into the future, but you needed to,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to be able to, have a date to start to
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: where these red shirts were no longer a factor. You
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: needed to clear the backlog at some point.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And what complicated also was the super senior, the COVID
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: years that were being factored into it as well. I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: think they could have grandfathered those in staying starting 2022-2023.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: And anyone that entered from that point on, you can
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: be grandfathered in if you went four straight years like
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Cole Hudson. And Hudson did not sign an NFL contract.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to transfer to another school. He wanted
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: only to return to his school at Texas. That's another
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: marked difference between him and Daquan Wright. You know, because
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I saw some action on social media. Well, the Texas
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: guy wanted to do the same thing. No, it's not
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: even remotely close. He didn't sign a contract. He wasn't
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: in a training camp. He certainly didn't dress. It was
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on the sidelines, as Wright was, with Cleveland for their
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: preseason game against Buffalo. None of that. He got no money.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: It was a rookie minicamp thing that he went through.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: never was signed to a contract and was released and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: all the while taking summer classes, by the way, at Texas. So,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a major difference there. But this is
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the thing and this is how it's going to continue
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to be a major issue for a while. I mean,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they're going, you know, the lawyers are going to argue
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that their student athletes, their clients, the student athletes, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: this is kind of what Lane Kiffin was saying, never
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: had a chance to follow through on a fifth year.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: They never had a chance to do that. Their eligibility
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: supposedly was up. So, that's why they tried to make
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it on an NFL roster. Then five for five happens. Oh, well,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: if we'd known that, we never would have left in
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the first place. I want my fifth year. So, That's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: going to be their big contention on that. But I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: do think that the real demarcation is going to come
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: in whether you signed a pro contract. Even if the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: contract doesn't pay anything, it's contingent upon you making the club.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I think once you put your name on the dotted line,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you become a professional athlete. And I think that may
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: be where this falls on the line of that. I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: don't know. A judge will have to decide it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: There's no G League equivalent to the NFL.
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: No.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And let me also say this, too. In basketball, players,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and Daylon Swain just went through this, went through the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: evaluation process at the Portsmouth and Chicago pre-draft camps where
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you get the feedback. Those are pre-draft camps. Now, that's pre-draft.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: So you have the pre-draft camps, and then they tell you, yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you might be second round. Yeah, you might be lottery.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: You might be first. And Daylon Swain decided to go
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: pro because he was told he'd be a first-round pick,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and he was. So he had that option. He could
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: have come back to Texas based on the information that
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: he had with those people. The NFL doesn't really have that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And that's where a lot of this is being put
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to the test now.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: And Texas Tech, we talked earlier about Joey McGuire and
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: his kind of, not threats, but foreshadowing that they were
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: looking to go this route just under a half an
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: hour ago. They signed Thomas Castellanos, who played quarterback, of course,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: through Florida State, Castellanos. Yeah, that Castellanos.
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: And he.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Was at Dolphins minicamp, but was undrafted. So it's the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: same deal as Cole Hudson.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Except he's not going back to his former school. That's
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: exactly right. That being Boston College.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. So he could be... I said
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Florida State, I meant Boston College.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Well, he was at Florida State. Then he went to UCF.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Then he went to Boston College.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well-traveled.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: So....
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: We're going to see how this is going to go.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And by the way, here we are talking about Texas Tech.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: The Big 12 is supposed to come out with a
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: statement today.
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: Mysteriously quiet. Where's our cricket sound effect? And the ACC
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: was supposed to come out with a statement today.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame said they agreed.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, they didn't want any part of this.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Thank goodness. They sent us a memorandum of understanding. They understand.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they understand the assignment. And Marcus Freeman, by the way,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: it said, it would be too problematic, A, at this point,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to get somebody in the system, in our system. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: more importantly, he said, B, Someone who could make it
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: academically at Notre Dame.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: That could fit in there into a grad program.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but can't they just opt out if they don't
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: fit in academically?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I suppose so, right? All right. So anyway, that's going
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: to be something that's going to go into greater discussion.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: We're going to find out more about this coming up.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, we'll go back to some
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: regular football talk. We're going to hear... from Arch Manning,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: and we will also hear from D'Amico Ryan. So from
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the college and the pro, where the lines are clearly distinct.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: They are not blurred there. Those two gentlemen and those
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: two teams as well. By the way, when we come back,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I want you to play the Sean McVay response. Did
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you hear his response to this? You're going to love it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: So we'll have that for you.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I actually did. It's great. You guys are going to
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: love this.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have that when we come back here on
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone and the IR
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Radio app.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Yesterday on the program....
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I think it was, maybe it was Monday. You bumped
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: back with, was it Baby Come Back?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Baby Come Back.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: And I said, I think it was on Monday. I said,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you're getting an early jump on Yacht Rock Wednesday. So
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: we might as well do here, you know, might as
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: well have really, on Yacht Rock Wednesday, players, one of
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: those who fit right in. This is their refrain right here,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: their song.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: This time I'm in. It's crazy to do it again.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: But how could I possibly lose?
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: How could I lose, right?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Craig, this is my first time seeing a player. Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: That is some hair.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they had lots of hair. If you were
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to look at, well, heck, it was at a big
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: hair era, the 70s and 80s there.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Did you ever have the big hair?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: It was never real long hair. But I did have
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the late 70s. I had the perm thing going for
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Part of it was because I was
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: in a play in college and needed that. And I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: kept it for a while. But then I was like, yeah,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I don't like this anymore.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: What play were you in?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was in several. But the one specific one
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: was Camelot. Was it at the time?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: You might have mentioned that once before, but is it
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: just theater or musical theater?
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: Both.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: When I was 17, I was in the North Carolina
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare Festival. I was in three productions there, Much Ado
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: About Nothing and The Merchant of Venice. And then they
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: would do one non-Shakespearean production that was kind of a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: period piece, Man for All Seasons. And then I was in...
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: theater productions, first couple of colleges I went to. And
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: then I was like, I got to get down to business.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Did you ever think you would explore that after college?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe when I was, you know, 17, 18 going on.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I remember my dad saying to me, do you know
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: how many good actors he sent? And I mean good
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: ones who are in New York jerking sodas and waiting
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: tables because they can't get a break. And it did
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: kind of make sense. And it wasn't what, I enjoyed it,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't, like a passion for me. I liked it,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't like the passion that I had, obviously,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to be around sports and then ultimately to broadcast sports
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: as well. So, yeah, I moved on. I got off
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the playground and got back into serious things. I did,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: before we move into hearing from some things from Arch Manning,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: we've been talking clearly a lot about this SEC and
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Big Ten prohibition on players who Couldn't cut it in
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL and trying to make it back into college football.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel, who's one of the respected college sports writers.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't like his work and disagree
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: with him and all that kind of stuff. Writes for
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: The Athletic. And he titled a piece today, penned a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: piece entitled, Kudos... to the Big Ten and SEC for
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: taking a stand. Is conference-led enforcement next? And that's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: very valid question. And he goes on, you know, he
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: broke down the sternly worded statement saying that, you know,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: individuals who choose to leave college athletics sign professional contracts, blah, blah, blah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: All of that begs the question, can't you guys not
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: permit them yourselves? Well, as it turns out, they did that.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: The Big Ten did it. Then the SEC did it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And he said, over the last two years, pretty much
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: every longstanding NCAA eligibility rule has been struck down by
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: a state or federal judge. Junior college years count towards
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: your NCAA eligibility? Not so, said the Diego Pavia judge.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: A G League player can't come back to college three
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: years after turning pro? Sure he can if Alabama needs
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a big man, Charles Bediaco, who played five games before
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a different judge reversed that one. Heck, Not even betting
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: on your own team is a disqualifier anymore, said the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Brendan Sorsby judge in Texas. In that instance, though, the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Big 12 took matters into its own hands, suing Texas
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Tech after Attorney General Ken Paxton threatened to sue them
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: if it punished Sorsby. The gambit worked. Tech and Sorsby
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: backed down amidst intense national backlash. Perhaps that move by
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark emboldened Tony Petitti, the commissioner
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: of the big 10 and his presence in 80s to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: take on the NFL back to college issue themselves. So,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: and he makes a very valid point. This is something
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: we brought up earlier. The new five-year eligibility policy has
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: elicited a cascade of lawsuits from the class of athletes
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: who left school in the spring after completing their fourth season.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: While it is impossible to keep track of them all,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: one judge's ruling in Louisiana last week caught everyone's attention.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Among the 33 plaintiffs to whom he granted a fifth
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: year were several football players, including former Ole Miss starters
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Daquan Wright, Zavian Harris, and Whitey Williams, and former LSU
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: player Jack Pyburn, who were on NFL rosters. Now, Pyburn
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: played for Tampa Bay. In fact, he sacked Cade Klubnick
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: in a preseason game when Tampa Bay was playing the Jets.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Piper was playing in the NFL. Mandel goes on to say,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a hard fireball has long prohibited any players, even declared
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: for the NFL draft, much less gone through preseason from
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: returning to school, in granting these players a fifth season
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: of eligibility. The judge unilaterally declared last Thursday that they
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: could return to college and enter the transfer portal so
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: long as they were released by their NFL teams and
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: paid back any money they received. So, and then he
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: goes on to say, Wright, for one, had not even
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: officially been cut before he entered the portal. and committed
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to who else? His former Ole Miss coach, LSU's Lane Kiffin.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Harris reportedly headed there too. Folks across college football were peeved.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: So anyway, that's part of the article that Mandel had
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: about this. And I have to say, I just feel
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: that what we're going to see out of this is
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Judge is very busy. I mean, we just got through
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: watching Judge v. Judge involving the Little League World Series.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: We just got through seeing that. Judges have already been
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: active on this measure as well. So this is where
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the rubber is going to meet the road on this
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: thing because as Mandel points out and as others have
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: pointed out, you go get yourself a judge, you find
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the right judge, you can strike down anything. Now, some
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: other judge in a higher court may say that that
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: judge is is full of baloney and throw it out.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: But at the ground level, you can go out and
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: try to find your judge who will agree with you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: and say, yeah, I wouldn't have gone to try out
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: for an NFL team had I known that the five
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: for five was going to pass and that I was
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: going to get a fifth year of eligibility. I never
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: would have gone to that. I never would have tried that.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't have that opportunity and you need to grandfather
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: me in. That's going to be that side. And then
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the other side is going to be, yeah, but you did,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: you know, He kind of did. He kind of went
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: to an NFL camp and he signed a contract. In
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the case of Jack Pyburn, you suited up and you
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: got a sack of Cade Klubnick in a preseason game.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: So following this is going to be real interesting. See
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: where it goes. And you made a good point. Jacob,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: saying there isn't really enough time to get this thing
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: resolved before season because this stuff did not start until
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: the back half of the month of August.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Is anyone going to get hit with these huge fines
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: that you talked about in the last segment?
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: You wonder.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Could they go back and you know, retroactively do that
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: to somebody who suits up one of these former pros
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: in week one or week two?
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: And they say.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: What if it's not in a conference game?
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. So say somebody did it with Ohio State and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the kid plays against Ball State. And he did it
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: under a TRO. And again, I'm separating the situation, not
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: only from Cole Hudson, but from any other student athlete who,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: who did what Cole did, and not sign a contract.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's the demarcation, the line of demarcation. Did
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: you sign a contract? Were you getting money? Were you
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: in a camp? Now, this one judge last week said,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: pay back the money and all's good. You're good. You're good.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: What are you going to say to Jack Pyburn? Okay,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: apologize to Kate Klubnick for sacking him. You're good. You
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: can go to LSU. That's what I think is going
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: to be real interesting to follow.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: So what if they try and turn around and say, fine,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: or penalize or suspend Ryan Day at Ohio State if
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: they were to play somebody? One of these guys comes in,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: transfers there, such and such. And then Ohio State just says, no,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: we're not paying that. Your ban's not legal.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: So that's it. But this is the Big Ten saying it,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: not the NCAA.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's a different thing in your own conference
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: if your conference is telling you. That's why LSU— But
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: what's the difference? Couldn't they sue the conference? Sure they could.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: They could. They could also face, you know, harsher penalties.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Look at what happened to Michigan from the Big Ten
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: with what they did with Harbaugh. So, in other words,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: you better play ball with your fellow conference members. You
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: can go after the NCAA and their ivory tower in
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis and all that kind of stuff. That's on you.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: That's your idea.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: But when you start messing with the boys in Chicago,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten office, and trying to go rogue on them,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: ask Texas Tech about that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the same questions that came up with
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: them in the early part of the summer are going
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: to come up maybe in the SEC this fall.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: With LSU.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, back to talking about Arch Manning. And Arch was
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: asked about the— the whole thing when Sark mentioned that
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: at times the scrimmage got sloppy, messy, missed assignments, maybe
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the heat had something to do with it, maybe some
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of the other stuff, who knows, but Arch was asked
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: how motivating was it to hear Sark call the offense
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: sloppy and at times lethargic?
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it was a little sloppy and lethargic,
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: but You know, we had a good day today, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: we're going to learn from it and get better.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Facing the Will Muschamp defense, has it forced the offense
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: overall and Manning in specific to get better?
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, 100%. They throw a lot of stuff at us,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: real high intensity. The practices are fun, and it's been
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: fun getting to go against him, such a highly respected coach.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. Arch has made reference to growing defensively. getting better.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: What will that growth look like? How will we all
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: be able to see that he's growing as a quarterback?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I think just continue to be myself and make the
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: most out of it. You know, you can't really say too.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: Often that you're the quarterback of the University of Texas,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: so I'm going to make the most out of it
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: and enjoy it.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: He was then asked, all starting quarterbacks are asked by
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: the backups. They're all asked about the backups. So you
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: have KJ Lacey and D'Abel. And he was asked for
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: his thoughts on their progress bell the incoming freshman lacy
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the redshirt freshman.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah they're really good players they can make every throw
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: they're getting smarter and smarter um acting like pros so
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: it's been fun being in the same.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Room as them okay um I got to ask you, Jake,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: because you were editing this sound. This next question, was
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: this a Kirk Bowles question? Yes, sir. Had to be.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Had to be. The question was, would you consider coming
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: back next year? I don't know.
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: I'm just focused on today and getting better today. Yeah.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I got to answer that right now. It's August of your,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you know, junior year.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Did you need me to tell you what Archer was
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: going to say to that one either? I think you
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: could have predicted that.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of guys, you could say
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the same thing. He was also asked about his relationship
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: with a center, with Connor Robertson.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Very important. Krav's my best friend.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: What a guy.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: What a guy. He's got great juice. Just, you know,
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: it's definitely a benefit having such a close friend of
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: yours as your center. I mean, my brother was my
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: center in high school. Now, basically, another brother of mine
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: is my center. So it's a blessing.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right. That's good. And, um, is this football
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: team as a whole and Manning in specific better set
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: up for a fast start?
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: I sure hope so. We got to start fast. You're
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: ready to go. Just, we got a lot of good
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: guys around me and we're ready to go. Let's go
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: back to some guys catching the football. First of all,
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Cam Coleman has been amazing with some of the stuff.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Has it surprised Arch?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, he can surprise me every day. Um, All
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: of them are making really good catches. Emmitt, Ryan, Weese,
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: Jermaine Bishop, Chris Stewart, Cohen, all those guys. I'm excited
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: for the whole group.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: All right, he brought up Jermaine Bishop. How about that
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: true freshman?
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jermaine, if I had to characterize, it's like football
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: kind of comes easy to him. That's the biggest compliment
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: I have for him. He's a natural athlete, and everything
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: kind of comes easy to him. He works really hard, though.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: All right, he was asked if he has talked to
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: the newcomers. about what it means to play at Texas.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: No, not really, to be honest. It's just football at
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: the end of the day. I think they handled themselves well.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Making it bigger than it is isn't going to do anything.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: One more from Arch here asked about the new running backs,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Smothers, Relique Brown. What do you see from those guys? Yeah,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: it's great.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: They're dynamic players, can score from anywhere on the field,
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: and just good guys. So I'm glad they're on my team.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: We'll hear some more from Arch coming up next hour.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: We're going to hear from Justin Cryer coming up, the
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Longhorns transfer linebacker. And from D'Amico Rides, when we continue
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: on Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone and the
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Here on.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: The Yacht Rock Wednesday, I don't think, and correct me
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: maybe because you've been at it for about a year.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't think we've had an Olivia Newton-John offering
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  Speaker 1: on a Yacht Rock Wednesday. No. And there aren't many
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: to be, if we're being completely honest here. For example,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: this song, Magic, is on an album where she does
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: that song that made a lot of rock and roll headlines.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Enthusiasts roll their eyes or maybe get queasy in the stomach.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And that was the song Physical. Let's get physical. You
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: know that one.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: It's on the same album.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Can't say I'm a fan of that song.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Or Xanadu.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: In fact, I like the late Olivia Newton-John's early offerings better.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: The one that's a little more that fall into actually
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the yacht genre. country category like let me be there
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: uh let me let me be there that's that's one
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: of them um there's a couple others like that as
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: well but this was definitely a yacht rock offering therefore
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: it falls into the category okay um somebody asked me
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: on the text line that said um regarding the sec
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: with the ruling with regards to teams uh taking nfl
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: athletes back can you explain what It means without withdrawing.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Not sure what constitutes. And he said, never mind. Just
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: heard your comment on this. Yeah, the properly withdrawing from
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the NFL club without having signed a contract. And I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: think that's how that thing came down and their ruling
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: on it. And again, we haven't heard the last on this. Good, bad, indifferent,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: no matter what side of the fence you happen to
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: land on. No matter how you feel about it, we
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: haven't heard the end of it. There's going to be more,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: and there's going to be legal. Just take my word
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: for it. That's going to happen. In the meantime, teams
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: are getting ready for the season, including the Longhorns, and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Justin Cryer, the Florida State transfer linebacker, was asked his
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: thoughts on adjusting to all things Texas. It's been pretty good.
• 58:30
  Speaker 11: I'll be honest, out of rough first couple weeks, just
• 58:35
  Speaker 11: coming back from a place that's pretty far, I'm from
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: the area, from the Houston area, so coming back home
• 58:40
  Speaker 11: definitely was something that was really important to me. But
• 58:43
  Speaker 11: I put my all into everything, so I kind of had,
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: with the way things went, just the adjustment and moving
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: on to a new place was obviously going to be
• 58:51
  Speaker 11: a little difficult. But I think we have some good
• 58:54
  Speaker 11: teammates who helped me just kind of get adjusted.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: He was also asked, settling on Texas, being from the
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Houston area, even though he'd been in Tallahassee, was it
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: then a pretty happy and easy decision for him? Yeah, absolutely.
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: I got that call from Coach Muschamp. I kind of
• 59:13
  Speaker 11: figured it's where I wanted to be at. Just kind
• 59:16
  Speaker 11: of figured out where I wanted to go. And in
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: that process, when he gave me that call, I was
• 59:21
  Speaker 11: pretty certain it's where I wanted to be.
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Will Muschamp, how about, you know, Coach
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Muschamp or some of the players calling Coach Champ, his pedigree?
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: How much did that go in convincing him? That was
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the biggest point.
• 59:32
  Speaker 11: I mean, everywhere he's been at, some of the best
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: defenses in the country. He's someone who's an old school
• 59:38
  Speaker 11: scout coach. I mean, y'all have heard him. He gets
• 59:41
  Speaker 11: after you a little bit, but he produces the best players.
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: So I know what I was signing up for when
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: he gave me that call and I came up here
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: to talk to him. But again, everywhere he's been at,
• 59:51
  Speaker 11: everyone he's coached the last couple of years, you can
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: see that he's produced some of the best players defensively.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: This opportunity i couldn't pass up on all right that's
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: justin cryer we'll hear more from him coming up next
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: hour and we will be back to wrap up our
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: number two on 13 under the zone craig way third
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: and final hour of the program here on sports radio
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: am 13 under the zone craig way joined by the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: producer jay kerman Glad to have you with us. We
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: begin this final hour with what I felt was the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: soundbite of the day yesterday in the world of sports.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And let me start by saying those of you who.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Heard me say earlier in the program about we've got
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: to get that soundbite from Sean McVay, the Rams head coach,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: about all of this craziness going on with the NFL
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: and college football. We're still looking for it. We found
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: one soundbite from it, but it appears from what Jake
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: was researching that on the website of the Los Angeles Rams, therams.com,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: they excised him. that particular part of the soundbite when
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay was asked about it. Because what remains is
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: pretty general stuff about, I don't know enough about it, yada, yada.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: But he had something in there, and I don't want
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: to give it away in case we do find it,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: because we're still searching for it to let you hear
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: about it. And I don't want to oversell it either,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: but it's a good little soundbite there if we want it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And I would say that would be the soundbite of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: the day, if not for this. You may not have
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: seen it.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: The....
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Brand new sporting director for Austin FC. That's Khaled Elamad.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Was introduced at a news conference yesterday. His actual title
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: is Chief Soccer Officer and Sporting Director Khaled Elamad. He's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: taking the position. He comes highly decorated. a championship team
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: as well in Minnesota, and he's a veteran of all this.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: So I think this is a good get for Austin FC.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: If this soundbite is any indication, I think it's a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: great hire because he was asked about, you know, you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: work so hard and you've had so much success, you know,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: how do you make time for your family? How do you,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: you know, make it all work and be able to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: perform well at your job when you've got all these
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: other things and perhaps distractions or pressure or that kind
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: of thing? And I thought he had a pretty good
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: response to it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 12: I think a lot of credit goes to my beautiful
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 12: family here.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: They are just super supportive.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 12: Part of my culture, I'm a war refugee, so things
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 12: I've seen and experienced in my life I ultimately don't
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 12: get fazed by a lot.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: And I've also.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: Learned that if you're surrounded with good people, just stay
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 12: calm and just take the right decision, the right decision.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 12: And over time, that will come together. Other than that,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 12: I work out and I eat donuts.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I'm applauding that. That's great. This is a guy, like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: he said, he was a war refugee. He's from Lebanon. And, uh,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: and instead I don't get too high or too low.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I don't let things really upset me that much. You
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: just go through and I just do my job. And
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: by the other night I work out and I eat donuts.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: It's like a t-shirt you find at a cheesy beach store.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: I work out and I eat donuts.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: You know what? There's a, there's a, there's a t-shirt
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I wear. I sleep in it sometimes with, uh, I'll
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: sleep like in, uh, uh, workout shorts and a t-shirt
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of times. Um, and the t-shirt is from
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: a donut shop in Memphis, Tennessee called Gibson's Donuts. And
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: the story behind Gibson's Donuts is that the gentleman, and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I forgot his first name, but the last name is Gibson.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: And he's like over 80 now, but he's been running
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: this donut shop for his fabulous donuts, by the way.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: And it's just this little unassuming donut shop. And it's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: there in Memphis and it has strong SEC ties to
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: be in Memphis, Tennessee. Um, I was introduced to the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: donut shop through my good friend, Dave Woloshin, who was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the play-by-play voice of the Memphis Tigers. And Woloshin will
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: be down here with Memphis in December when they play
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the Longwoods in basketball. And he took me to this
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: donut shop. He said, you got to meet this guy.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: He's legendary. They have these great donuts and he knows
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: everything about the SEC and all this kind of stuff.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And so the first time I went in there was
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: literally one, maybe two days after the SEC after the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: University of Texas and the University of Oklahoma announced they
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: were going to the SEC. This was five years ago
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: in 2021 when it was announced. So I was on
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: vacation and Linda and I were passing through Memphis and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: we stopped to see Wolo and his wife Gail. We
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: stayed with them at their house. Dave and I were
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: friends going all the way back to both working at
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: KRLD in Dallas in the mid 80s. And Dave did
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M basketball for one year, but he
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: had come from Memphis and he went back to Memphis
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: and to assume the play-by-play duties for then Memphis State University,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: now University of Memphis, the Memphis Tigers. And he's been
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: at it for over 40 years, their play-by-play voice. So
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: we go to meet this guy, older, kind of funny,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: irascible kind of guy. And we're talking about different SEC
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: things and what I'm gonna see. And he came out
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: with a plate, a platter of donuts. And he said,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I want you to try a couple of these, just
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: have the bites and tell me what you think. And
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: he said, this first one, and it was like a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: cream filled donut, which I really liked those. He said,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: there's a bit of initiation that goes in with the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: cream filled donut in the SEC. I said, really, what
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: is that? He said this, and he smashed it into
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: my face. And I just had Bavarian cream dripping off
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: my eyelashes and the whole place just erupted. Uh, in laughter.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Apparently this is a tradition. He does it with different
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: people that come in there. Rolo brings these guys in
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: there and Dave told me, he said, I knew he
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: was going to do that. I said, did you do
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: it on, bring me down there on purpose knowing he
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: was going to do that? He said, I wanted you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to meet him, but I had a feeling he was
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: going to do it. And he did. Great guy.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: We've been back a couple of times. Good thing you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: weren't going straight to a game.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: No, it was very nice. And I haven't had to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: pay for a donut in there. He's been really, really cool.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: That's the tradeoff.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. That was the tradeoff. But that's what I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: think of on donuts. But here is, you know, the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: brand new sporting director and chief soccer officer, Khaled El-Ahmad,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: who said, I work out and I eat donuts. So
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: you knew a follow-up question about donuts was going to happen.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Knowing the new sporting director, chief soccer officer, is a
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: big fan of donuts, are we expecting a pending Round
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Rock Donuts collaboration, partnership, something like that?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: So wait, is Round Rock a good place to go
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: get donuts?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Round Rock Donuts is a legendary local institution.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: They didn't pay me to say this.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: They probably shouldn't. He didn't know about Round Rock Donuts,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: and the reporter said it's legendary.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Is Round Rock a good place to eat donuts? I
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: guess it depends where you go.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, exactly. So anyway, that to me was
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: the sound bite of the day. Other than that, I
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: work out and I eat donuts.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: It's like in Game of Thrones, Tyrion. I drink and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I know things.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly. So that's how that case is. Okay,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I mentioned, and we're going to hear more From Arch Manning,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: we're going to hear more from Justin Cryer, the Longhorns linebacker.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: We're going to hear more from D'Amico Ryans this hour
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: as well. I wanted to get to some other college
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: football notes. First of all, Arian Carter, the Tennessee linebacker,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: has had his suspension reduced from two games to one.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Danny White, the athletic director, said he doesn't deserve this
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: unnecessary distraction. He is everything that's right about college sports
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: a team leader has already earned his degree. He accepted
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: a flight from an agent. He elected to enter the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: NFL draft in the offseason. He accepted a flight from
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: an agent valued at $ 427. 48. However, amid Carter's draft preparation,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: his team discovered a toe injury that required surgery, which
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: would have prevented him from working out in front of
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: several NFL teams for several months. So Carter withdrew from
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the draft before the deadline for underclassmen to decide, and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: he repaid the money before disengaging from the agent, according
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: to Tennessee. Josh Heupel, the head coach, called it outdated
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: and BS. And then the athletic director said, while I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: strongly agree with Josh Heupel's comment about how ridiculous this
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: is in our current environment, one game is better than two.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: If players around the country are allowed to leave NFL
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: camps and play college football, the NCAA should do the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: right thing and drop it altogether. If that were the case.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: But what we've seen in the last 24 hours is
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: both the Big Ten and the SEC saying this is
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: not going to happen. Players are not going to be
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: allowed to leave NFL camps and play college football. It's
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: not going to happen. Of course, there's been all this
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: uproar around the sport. The court decisions in multiple states
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: introducing the possibility of players who spent the summer on
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: NFL rosters. That's also a bit hyperbolic. They didn't spend
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: the entire summer on NFL rosters. There were guys who
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: went and tried out. But former Ole Miss tight end
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Daquan Wright, as we discussed, Was cut by the Cleveland Browns.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: He did actually suit up for the game against Buffalo
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: last Saturday, but did not get into the game. He
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: didn't suit up in their first preseason game against the Bears.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Did suit up for the second. Did not get into
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the game. And was planning today to sign with LSU
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: to complete his fifth year of eligibility this fall.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Is available, by the way, on the college football fantasy app.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Is he really?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I checked, yeah.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: They're kind of jumping the gun, I would say.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: He's in an Ole Miss uniform.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: There you go. You know, with regard to this deal
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: with Arian Carter, the SECs, well, the college football in general,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: college athletes are allowed to hire agents to handle the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: NIL stuff, name, image, and likeness contracts, and revenue sharing
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: deals with the schools. But signing with an agent to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: begin a professional career has previously meant permanent loss of eligibility. Now,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Tennessee reported the violation. They said, here's our deal. He
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: signed with the agent who was going to go, but
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: he had a toe injury. So he couldn't work out,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: did not work out with any teams, did not sign
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: with anybody, and has repaid the money for the plane
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: ticket that was sent to him by his agent, $ 427.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 10: 48.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: And the NCAA said, thank you for self-reporting. That's a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: two-game suspension. And Tennessee's like, what? So then they went
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: back and they appealed it again and they talked about it.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 10: And then it's been reduced to one game. Now, this
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 10: is ridiculous. I mean, yeah, I'm with Josh Heupel here.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: This, I think, is a much clearer case of forgiving
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: and forgetting than the other thing that's going on.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, not even close.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, there is a common thread on both. And
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: that common thread is.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's perspective and that of the attorneys is that
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: these guys, they didn't have the option, you know, or
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: they didn't think they had the option. Otherwise, they never
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: would have gone to the NFL draft. We don't really
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: know that. We don't really know that they wouldn't have gone,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: even if they'd had that fifth year available to them.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: That we don't know. And for the agents and for
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: the family representatives, and most importantly for the lawyers, who
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: are arguing this before a judge, say, we would not
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: have done this had we known. And Arian Carter's case,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: we would not have accepted the plane ticket had we
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: known about that. And the answer to both is, yeah,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: but you did.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: You did.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Now, the punishment for Carter should be far less than
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: what it is. And I think one game's fair enough.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: who's Tennessee playing in their opener? It's going to.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Be a three name directional school.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a tomato can. Let's see.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I know it, you know, you, like you said,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: the significance of the reduction, it's Furman, the Paladins.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: There you go. An FCS school.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: But the reduction means he can play against Georgia tech,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: which is a big game.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. So that's a different kettle fish, I think,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: than what's going on with this eligibility business. So, you know, it's,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: It's goofy. It's crazy. It's nuts the way this thing
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  Speaker 1: has gone down about this. And like I said, I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: think this is just tip of the iceberg. I think
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: we all better settle back, settle in, buckle up, because
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: we're going to be involved in this for a bit.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it'll get to.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: You know, whatever it was with the Supreme court thing
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: with Kurt flood, you know, the major league baseballs and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: the reserve clause and free agency in the early seventies. And,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: and of course, um, you know, uh, of course the, uh, uh,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the Kurt flood, uh, career pretty much ended. He didn't
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: get a chance to benefit from that, but Andy Messer
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Smith did. And Mike Marshall did. And several other free
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: at catfish Hunter, several catfish hunters, free agent deal, uh,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: It's really weird. Here was a guy who was the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: pitching star, the number one guy on that three-time world
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: champion Oakland A's team. Oakland, the only other team other
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: than the Yankees to win three World Series in a row.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers are trying to be the first National League
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: team to do that this year. But other than the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: New York Yankees, who won four in a row from
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: 36 through 39, and five in a row from 49
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: to 54, and three in a row from 98 through 2000,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: The only other team to do it was the 72, 73,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: and 74 Oakland Athletics. They were the only one. And
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Catfish Hunter was the star of that team. Hunter, there
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: was something left out, erroneously left out of his contract.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: And when baseball looked at it and the judge looked
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: at it, he got declared a free agent. So they
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: screwed up. So he signed with the Yankees and helped
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: them win a World Series. You got to cut back-to-back
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: World Series.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Changed the course of baseball history. And I read in college,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: one of my courses at Moody, about Marvin Miller's impact
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: on all of that. This was a book by Matt Futterman,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: who wrote the book Players. He came on the show
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: when I was filling in during your vacation. We talked tennis.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: He covers Wimbledon and all the majors with the New
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: York Times.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Marvin Miller was a guy who in the 60s was
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: just kind of hanging out around the training camp, spring
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: training sites, and was introducing himself. And a lot of
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: players were like, what? And then he started to discuss
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: with them how unionizing could ultimately help them down the road.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: And of course, the owners were dead set against it.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: And labor agreements between the owners and the players have
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: been going on as long as there's been baseball. There
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: was a reason that there was a league called the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Players League in the late 1800s and another league called
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: the Federal League in the early 1900s, neither of which survived.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: But it gave guys an opportunity because of Major League
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Baseball's reserve clause, which bound you to one team for
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: the entirety of your career unless the team released you.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: So labor disputes have been going on for more than
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: 100 years. And the biggest of all of them is
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: looming ahead like a storm cloud for 2027. We'll see
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: if that ultimately happens with baseball. The other night, Rob
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Manfred was on the telecast, ESPN's telecast of the Braves.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Brewers game at the little league world series there in Williamsport.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: And he said, we've, we've had discussions. We're still having
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: kind of regular discussions. They got until December 1st. And
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: if it's, if they don't have at least an agreement
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: kind of in place or an agreement in principle, then
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: the owners pretty much are going to be looking at
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: locking out the players. So that's, you know, the storm
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: clouds on the horizon. All right, we've got other football
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: notes to get to. We are going to hear some
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: more from Arch Manning. We are going to hear some
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: more from Justin Cryer and also from D'Amico Ryans. We'll
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: do that and something you may or may not be
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: happy with with regard to the NFL. That's next. Here's
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: another classic example.
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  Speaker 5: Of a band.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: whose most of their catalog is not Yacht Rock. But
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: this song is. Someone and only grateful dad. And such
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: a great. So that's here on the Yacht Rock Wednesday,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: bringing you a little bit of variety with that.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I've heard this at baseball games. I think
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: I've heard two or three different teams do it across
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: different levels after the home team loses.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I heard it one time where they just
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: had it queued up to, I will survive, I will
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: get by, and then I will survive. When a guy
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: got hit by a pitch, one of their players. This part, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: As long as I don't have to hear Aerosmith after
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: any more walks.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a lot of that. You know, Dodger games,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: they'll play Dale Boese on missing persons walking in L.A.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, on those massive speakers they've got at Dodger Stadium.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with that tune?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Walking in LA? Missing person walking in LA?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look that one up. In the meantime,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: some pro football notes for you. The Pro Bowl is dead.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Well, didn't it die five or six years ago?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: It really did competitively. The player honors will remain.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: Um.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: But they're no longer going to acknowledge alternates. So since 1951,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: the NFL has had the Pro Bowl in some form.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: All-star competition, you know, went across the country, and particularly
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: in the past decade plus, it's gone through several different iterations,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: including turning the game itself into a series of games,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: which I had zero interest in. And now, according to
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: The Athletic, the Pro Bowl is being eliminated. Today, league executives...
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: presented the team owners the future of the Pro Bowl,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: which will no longer have a standalone game, be it
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: tackle or flag football or games. In other words, no
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: skills competition, any of that. I was never interested in
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: watching any of that, and I didn't. After surveying players
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: over the years, the NFL will now make the Pro
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Bowl effectively an individual performance award. 88 players will receive
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl honor with no alternates. So that's a
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: key aspect of that event that had kind of gotten
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: out of whack, you know, in recent years. Peter O'Reilly,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: the NFL Executive Vice President of Club Business International League Events,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: told The Athletic today, and here's the quote, All-Star games,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: I think, for all leagues have been fraught for a
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: long time, and they haven't necessarily represented the very best
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: premium of that sport for these players. I think all
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: leagues have struggled with that. We made the switch four
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: years ago from the tackle Pro Bowl to a flag game.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: And that was more strategic for us. In many ways,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: we saw a decrease in the replacement players. But ultimately,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, at its core, is about honoring the
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: best of the best in that season on the field
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: in real games. And the shift here is about shifting
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: the focus from the game, which is ultimately where people's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: attention goes. especially the replacement players who are tied to it,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: tied to the honor. In place of the games, the
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers will be invited to Los Angeles for an
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: in-person celebration in February. The process of selecting Pro Bowlers
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: will remain the same. The ballots cast by fans, players,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: and coaches are weighted equally to determine the selections of
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: the 88 players on offense, defense, and special teams from
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: across both conferences. For years, league executives informally surveyed the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: players about how to fix the Pro Bowl. And earlier
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: this summer, the NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Troy Vincent Sr., got on a call with more than
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: a dozen key players like Jalen Hurts, Jalen Ramsey, George Kittle,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Deion Dawkins, and others. They made clear they wanted to
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: properly honor and celebrate Pro Bowlers, including those who make
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. After years of feeling the honor of
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: had become something less. In fact, Torrey Vincent's quote was,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: you start doing it over and over again, and now
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: what we've compromised on becomes the standard. And that is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: not the product the fans deserve, nor the way the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: players want to be celebrated. And it's a shame, really,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: because the NFL really started messing with it back around 2013.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: That was the year they abolished the conference format in
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: favor of honorary team captains. Deion Sanders and Jerry Rice
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: were for the inaugural year. And he had a fantasy draft.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: They restored the AFC-NFC format for 2016. It moved from
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Hawaii after the 2015 addition. But the biggest issue, as
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: has been pointed out in this article, has been the
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: lack of competitiveness in the game itself. So, you know,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: that's why about how that's gone. So in 2022, the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: league revamped. the pro bowl to bring in skills competitions
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: along with a flag football event that's when i permanently
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: turned it off at that point.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: You didn't want to watch the your favorite uh rams
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: and nfl stars play dodgeball.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Nope was not interested in that and last year they
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: moved it from its typical sunday before the super bowl
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: to the tuesday before the super bowl in the host
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: city um but it didn't go.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Over well and then there's the whole you know the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: opt-outs and and fan voting for replacements and things like
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: that is should or sanders ended up in the pro
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: bowl where there's no measure that should happen yeah i'm
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: not sorry i'm not saying that to disrespect should do
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: or he's not the only one but just a prominent example.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Yep yep absolutely so it's gone uh other than being
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: named that but you know i get it and it's
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: an honor and i'm all for it but in That
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: kind of what All-Pro is all about? The All-Pro team?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: You get named to a team like an All-American team.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I guess the difference is All-Pro just has one guy
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: at each position, that sort of thing. This will have
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: its true rosters, even though they don't play in a game. So, anyway,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: there's that. All right, speaking of the NFL, let's hear
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: from Domingo Ryans.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: And I.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Mentioned earlier in the show how they traded for Keishon Butteh.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: and how he may be able to help them since
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: the receiving core has taken a hit. And so, Reins
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: was asked about Boutte's addition, you know, really catching his
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: attention with some big catches that he saw on tape.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 9: Adding Kayshaun is not about the one play. We know
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: it was a spectacular play that he made, but it's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 9: just watching him throughout his career, just seeing what he's done.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 9: He's one of the better contested catch players that I've seen.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 9: If the ball is close, he has a knack for
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 9: going up, playing physical, and coming down with the football.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 9: So that's what intrigued me when I continued to watch
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 9: his tape from last year and previous years. He continued
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 9: to make those tough catches, and that's what you want.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 9: I want everybody on our team to be tough mentally
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: and physically, and he's shown that on his tape.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, but since they just brought him in, how's he
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: going to be able to ramp up quickly enough?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 9: For us to ramp him up, we'll start with our
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 9: S & C group. They'll start him on the side,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 9: just ramping him up, making sure we like to understand
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 9: our player's body, understand where they are. We go through
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 9: some preliminary testing to make sure he's ready to go
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 9: when it's time to get in. He got in today,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 9: did individual, did some routes on air, and we'll continue
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 9: to build him.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 8: And progress him. you know, as the week goes along.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Last hour, we heard D'Amico Ryans talk about the offensive
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: line and how it needs to get better, and he
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: likes what he's seen so far. He's been impressed, but
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: also wanting the depth behind the starters to be able
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: to go well, and that's where... Blake Fisher's improvement comes in.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 9: For Blake, I've seen definitely a focused guy.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 8: He's improved a ton.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 9: If I gave out awards, he would get the award
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 9: for the most improved offensive lineman this year. From what
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 9: he did last year, from being in that jumbo-type role,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 9: he's just lined up at left tackle. Every day, he's
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 9: gotten better. Every single day. I'm really pleased with Blake.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 9: I'm proud of the work that he's put in. He's
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 9: shown up daily.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 8: He's improved.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 9: He's taken the coaching really well. And that's what it
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 9: looks like. When you put the work in, you can
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 9: get better. And Blake has shown that tremendously.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: One more from D'Amico Rines about the wide receiver room again.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: And Xavier Hutchinson, the former Iowa State Cyclone, and the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: excitement that he has generated.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 8: Starting with Hutch, man, it's his attitude. I love it.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 9: He has an infectious energy. Every time he steps on
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 9: the field, he has this joy about him. He plays
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 9: hard every single snap, and he makes plays. The ball
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 9: comes his way. He finds a way to make plays,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 9: and so it's exciting about Hutch. I'll never have a
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 9: bad day. Always great attitude. He works the right way.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: He works hard at his craft, and he has a
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: confidence in himself, which you have.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: To have at the right receiver position.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 9: Hutch has that confidence, and he's playing confident and showing
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 9: up every day.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Texans, of course, wrap up their preseason. this week as
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: they take on the Carolina Panthers. Let's hear a little
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: more from Arch Manning. And Arch, you know, yesterday was
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, how much fun it's been in
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: camp and how he and his teammates have really done
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: a good job. And he was asked about the running backs.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: He talked about a little more about Hollywood Smothers and
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: also Relique Brown, you know, Smothers transferring in from NC State,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Brown from Arizona State. What about their attributes and what
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: they bring to the party?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: Well, they can both. They're both so good out of
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: the backfield, smart, consistent, and just can make highlight-level plays
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: at any time.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Okay. He was also asked about game day in Austin
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: because this week, remember, they finished up the two scrimmages,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: and they're going through regular practice this week. This is
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: the final week of fall camp, training camp workouts. When
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: they get to Saturday, however, they will have what's called
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: a mock game, and that's where they go through the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: timeline and sequence of events that they would on a
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: game day, because this Saturday, there'll be one week from
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: the season opener. And so they'll go through all those things,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: including staying at the hotel the night before getting up,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: having the team breakfast, going through the warmups, all of
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: those kinds of things, and then an actual kickoff, and
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: that's the mock game as it works up. So Arch
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: was asked about the game day environment and what's his
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: favorite part of game day in Austin? Just, you only
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: get so many in Austin.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: You only get what?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 8: Five.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: Six a year um it's special and playing at home
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: is always fun um i'm excited to be.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Back it would actually be seven this year uh they've
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: got seven home games this year so uh that's that's
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: a good thing all right next uh he was asked
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: about uh getting cole hudson back on the offensive front
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: of what he what that means Crazy.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: I was off social media, so I didn't know what
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: was going on, really. And I just saw him early
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: morning one day. I was like, what the hell? But
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: he gave a big hug, and I'm glad to have
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: him back.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Anytime you have familiar faces.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: It's fun.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Next, Arch, historically, since he's been on campus, customarily, tries
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: to stay off social media. So he's asking, does he
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: plan to be off social media all year long?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: That's the plan. I like being in the know a
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: little bit, like with my hometown friends and people I've met,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: but yeah, no, anything football related. I click not interested.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. Uh, I was asked if he gives Marshall Manning
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: any advice to Marshall.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: I texted him the other night. Um, but he's, uh,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: he's a really good guy. He's really smart. He was
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: studying for some big time class that I never took. Um,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: But he's a really good guy. I wish him all
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: the best. I'm a cousin first before I'm giving him
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: much advice. He's got a lot of advice from his dad.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: So I can just be the fun cousin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Marshall being Peyton's son after that. He was
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  Speaker 1: asked if he visits with his grandfather, if he visits
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  Speaker 1: with Archie, his namesake, that often.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, 100%. He texts me just about every day. So
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  Speaker 5: he's just a great guy. Keeps up with everyone. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad we have such a good relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it would not be an interview session without questions
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  Speaker 1: from our good friend Kirk Bowles about weight. He loves
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  Speaker 1: to get those exact specs down. He writes them down
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  Speaker 1: on his big legal pad and all this. And so
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  Speaker 1: he had an exchange with Arch about Arch having a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of weight change, going from being a little
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  Speaker 1: bit bigger to being a little more cut this summer.
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  Speaker 5: During spring, I wasn't running much. So I got up
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  Speaker 5: to like 236. Yeah, I was a little chubby. um
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  Speaker 5: now i'm uh now i'm like 220 so coach beckton
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  Speaker 5: he ran us pretty good this summer i shredded i
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  Speaker 5: shut off.
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  Speaker 1: Some weight okay all right um i asked arch about
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  Speaker 1: when we were at sec media days about playing golf
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  Speaker 1: with his dad and in those commercials and i asked
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  Speaker 1: him who was the better golfer and he said my
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  Speaker 1: dad is i can hit it farther than him but
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: he hits it a lot straighter than i do that
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  Speaker 1: was in our conversation So he was asked, how's his
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  Speaker 1: golf game going? Up and down, up and down.
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  Speaker 5: After I said I broke 80, I went and played and, like,
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  Speaker 5: topped the first three shots.
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  Speaker 8: Everyone's like, what?
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  Speaker 5: No, you did not. You didn't break 80. But, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Does he have a standout off-field memory about the summer?
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  Speaker 5: That's a good question. We had a team get together
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  Speaker 5: on a Friday night. And it was good being around
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  Speaker 5: the guys outside of football. It wasn't organized or anything,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: just from the players. And it was a really good time.
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  Speaker 5: And just being around the guys, talking about life was.
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  Speaker 5: It was a memory that you'll remember for the rest
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  Speaker 5: of your life.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. All right, we're going to hear
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more coming up. We've talked quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit about the offensive side of it, but we're going
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  Speaker 1: to hear a little bit more from Justin Cryer coming
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  Speaker 1: up when we continue here on the Yacht Rock Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: on Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone. My soul's
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: like a wheel that's turning.
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  Speaker 4: My love is alive.
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  Speaker 7: My love is alive.
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  Speaker 1: Rolling through a Yacht Rock Wednesday here with the late
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  Speaker 1: Gary Wright, whose love was definitely alive when he was
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  Speaker 1: with us on this planet. Hey, I wanted, there was
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  Speaker 1: a couple other pieces of sound I wanted you to
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  Speaker 1: hear from Arch Manning. First of all, I want to
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: go back to that trash talk thing. There's a, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of conversation with Longhorn players saying
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: that Arch is one of the best at trash talk.
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  Speaker 1: And this popped up two or three times. And finally,
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  Speaker 1: Arch winds up in an exchange with John Bianco, the
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  Speaker 1: senior associate athletic director for communications, and was asking, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on with all this trash talk stuff?
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  Speaker 5: Is something trash talk happening? Everybody talks about your trash talk.
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  Speaker 5: Really not that much of a trash talker. What's going on? Really?
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  Speaker 5: He's a trash talker.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Damn i'm missing out i don't know i'm really just
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  Speaker 5: a nice guy out there.
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  Speaker 1: Not so much about the trash talk although justin cry
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  Speaker 1: would say otherwise by the way uh one other thing
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  Speaker 1: you knew this had to come and again this was
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: a kirk bowles question wasn't it asked him you know
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  Speaker 1: the manning award supposedly goes to the nation's best quarterback
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  Speaker 1: named after his grandfather aren't you manny and uh Arch
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  Speaker 1: was named to the Manning Award watch list yesterday or Monday.
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  Speaker 1: So he was asked, do you want to win the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Manning Award?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, nah.
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  Speaker 5: Nah, nah, hell no.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, that's not my goal for this season. That was
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: mainly what he was saying. It's not my goal. Somebody asked,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: is your goal to win the Manning Award? And he said, uh, no.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: All right, a little more from Justin Cryer, the Longhorn linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: If the name Cryer sounds familiar, it should. Brother LJ Cryer,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: the former standout basketball guard at Baylor University, LJ. And
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: he was asked what he has learned about LJ, who
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  Speaker 1: was on Baylor's 2021 National Championship team when it comes
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: to chasing championships.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, y'all don't know this. I'm actually better at basketball
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  Speaker 11: than him. I think that's just me personally.
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  Speaker 1: Does he know that?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: He knows that.
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  Speaker 4: No, um.
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  Speaker 11: He's been my role model ever since I was a
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 11: little kid. His work ethic, his drive, his determination. I
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 11: got to have a first. I got to have a
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: front row seat to that. Coming up to recruit, coming
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 11: up to games at the University of Texas, all this stuff,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 11: the process that he went through, it was something that
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 11: kind of laid down the blueprint for me when it
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: was my turn. He's someone I go to all the
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 11: time just for advice and just for whenever things are
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 11: just kind of going on, I go to him first
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 11: because he's someone who I know has been through it.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: And he's up on me in the national championship category.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: So I got to get one.
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  Speaker 5: Up on him.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: All right. So here is some stuff from Justin Cryer
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: as well. We'll be back to wrap up today's edition
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: of the program here on 13 Under the Zone.