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Liberating Slaves and Standing Up to Woke Culture · That KEVIN Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome back from Times Square. It's That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com.
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Speaker 1: Grateful to have you with us. And I am grateful
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Speaker 1: that it is back to one of my favorite times
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Speaker 1: of the year.
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Speaker 3: Why?
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Speaker 1: Well, I talk about it on the show all the time.
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Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for the end of year holidays. Thanksgiving, Christmas,
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Speaker 1: all the joy, all the thankfulness, all the gratitude, all
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Speaker 1: the presents, all the kids getting excited, the music, all
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Speaker 1: of it. It just fills my heart with happiness and fulfillment.
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Speaker 1: And even though we're not quite in the slog of
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Speaker 1: that portion just yet, we are concentrating from here to
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Speaker 1: the end for a good outcome for Christmas for Christians
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Speaker 1: that are enslaved and that have no reason to believe
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Speaker 1: that there's going to be anything good in their life.
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Speaker 1: And we can actually give them their life back. We're
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Speaker 1: talking about our annual Christmas. liberation of people who are
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Speaker 1: enslaved in Sudan. And that voice that chimed in right
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Speaker 1: there is Todd Chapman, who rejoins us from a little
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Speaker 1: group called Christian Solidarity International. I love this group. I've
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Speaker 1: told you about them for years. We've together seen thousands
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Speaker 1: of people literally taken out of slavery and given a
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Speaker 1: life all over again. And, Todd, last year we didn't
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Speaker 1: have enough time to enjoy the entire process for the
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Speaker 1: full last quarter of the year. But we're going to
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Speaker 1: do something great this year for people that are brand new.
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Speaker 1: And we have new people tuning in from Anchorage to
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Speaker 1: Miami every day. Like, it's just cool how people are
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Speaker 1: finding the show. What is this all about?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so CSI is an organization that for actually 49 years,
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Speaker 5: celebrating 50 years in 2027, has been liberating slaves and
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Speaker 5: really ministering to Christians all over the world who are
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Speaker 5: being persecuted for their faith. But the work that is
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Speaker 5: probably most unique and that we're best known for is
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Speaker 5: what we're going to be talking about and inviting you
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Speaker 5: to be a part of. for the remainder of this year,
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Speaker 5: and that is to free Sudanese slaves. Now, this goes
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Speaker 5: all the way back to, as my kids would say,
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Speaker 5: the last century when a civil war was raging in Sudan.
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Speaker 5: And militants were basically allowed to go into Christian communities
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Speaker 5: and pillage and kidnap and kill and destroy those villages.
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Speaker 5: And the outcome of that was hundreds of thousands of slaves,
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Speaker 5: primarily women and children, were were abducted and taken into
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Speaker 5: what is now Sudan. This was, you know, right about
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Speaker 5: the time South Sudan was being formed in this same
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Speaker 5: period of time. And these slaves have been kept there
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Speaker 5: for decades now. We're talking, you know, 25, 30 years
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Speaker 5: for some of these people who many were children and
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Speaker 5: now they're still living enslaved. And so CSI not only
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Speaker 5: at that period of time negotiated the end of slave
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Speaker 5: taking during that time of conflict, But what they weren't
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Speaker 5: able to do at the time was actually secure the
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Speaker 5: release of those slaves through, you know, government negotiations. So
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Speaker 5: they said, well, if the government's not going to do it,
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Speaker 5: God's people will. And so for the last, you know,
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Speaker 5: since 19, well, the mid 1990s, we have been freeing
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Speaker 5: slaves every year, thanks to the generosity of people like you. $ 250, incredibly,
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Speaker 5: is all it takes for us to send our slave
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Speaker 5: retrievers that are working year round, by the way, identifying
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Speaker 5: these enslaved women and children and negotiating their release. We'll
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Speaker 5: talk more about that in a minute. And then bringing
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Speaker 5: them back down into South Sudan and whenever we can,
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Speaker 5: reuniting them with their family members, moving them back to
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Speaker 5: their community. And if they we can't find that because
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Speaker 5: some of these people were taken to such a tender age,
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Speaker 5: they don't even remember.
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Speaker 1: Or had their whole family killed in the process.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. They might be gone. So if that's the case,
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Speaker 5: then we set them up in new communities of Christians.
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Speaker 5: This is all done through the church there in South Sudan,
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Speaker 5: all powered by your generosity. Kevin, it's so unique. It's
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Speaker 5: so beautiful. And this is the heart of the scripture, right?
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Speaker 5: The Bible says that Jesus came for freedom. And so
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Speaker 5: that's what we're supposed to be in the business of
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Speaker 5: as followers of Christ, setting captives free. And in this case,
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Speaker 5: that's physical bondage. And, And I will add to this
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Speaker 5: that these women and children have been they've been subject
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Speaker 5: to just incredible abuse across such a period of time.
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Speaker 5: Physical abuse, verbal abuse, slave labor, sexual abuse of all
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Speaker 5: different forms. It's a miracle. frankly, that many have survived
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Speaker 5: as long as they have. But we can liberate them.
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Speaker 5: Over 160 slaves already rescued through CSI, thanks to generous
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Speaker 5: people like you. And during this holiday season, we're hoping
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Speaker 5: the listeners of that Kevin show will free several hundred more.
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Speaker 5: So that's what I'm here for. And I'm pumped to
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Speaker 5: be back every year. This is such a gratifying time
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Speaker 5: of the year.
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Speaker 1: I love ending the year with this because it is
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Speaker 1: one of the most meaningful things that we've ever participated
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Speaker 1: in as a family. And the ability to get to
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Speaker 1: just be part of it is such an honor. Friends,
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Speaker 1: I have told you the whole time that I've been
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Speaker 1: on the air that I never ask you to do
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Speaker 1: anything that we don't do personally. And that's true with CSI.
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Speaker 1: We've given to them for years. And we've had the joy.
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Speaker 1: Back during COVID, my kids were listening to me do
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Speaker 1: my show from my home studio. when they weren't going
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Speaker 1: to school in person, and they would hear us discuss
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Speaker 1: the situation that the slaves were facing. And they really
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Speaker 1: held my feet to the fire and said, Dad, what
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Speaker 1: are we doing to do anything about this? And this
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Speaker 1: became the cause of the McCullough family and is to
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Speaker 1: this day. And by God's grace, we have been able
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Speaker 1: to literally liberate dozens of slaves ourselves as just a family.
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Speaker 1: And we want to encourage you to join us on
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Speaker 1: that path as well. 1-888-342-1010 is the number.
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Speaker 6: 888-342-1010.
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Speaker 1: And if you go to the all newly designed thatkevinshow.com,
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Speaker 1: you'll see banners at the top and at the bottom.
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Speaker 1: If you're on the mobile version, it pops up from
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Speaker 1: the bottom and just is right there, but you'll see
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Speaker 1: CSI banners right there. It is easy to give through those.
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Speaker 1: You click it and I'm serious in 60 seconds or less,
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Speaker 1: you can make your gift and be on your way.
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Speaker 1: And so the idea that CSI is going to actively
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Speaker 1: work until we have them all back. At the height
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Speaker 1: of the conflict, there were probably about 185,000, maybe 200,000
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Speaker 1: slaves in total that were enslaved in North Sudan. Because
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Speaker 1: of Christian Solidarity International, more than 150,000 of those have
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Speaker 1: been liberated and brought home and released. But that means
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Speaker 1: that there's still 35,000 or 40,000 that are still there.
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Speaker 1: And some have had children as prisoners. way of their
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Speaker 1: slave masters while they've been in slavery. So the number
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Speaker 1: fluctuates a little bit. But even the kids we can
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Speaker 1: now help liberate and bring home, which has not been
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Speaker 1: able to happen before.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. And yeah, it's just one slight correction.
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Speaker 5: Just got the latest updated numbers. Over 160,000 slaves have
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Speaker 5: been liberated. So that is just phenomenal. But we don't
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Speaker 5: really know, honestly, how many remain, because to your point,
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Speaker 5: kids have been born And so it's a real, you know,
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Speaker 5: hard calculation to make. But we have slave retrievers that, again,
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Speaker 5: throughout the year, they're working in that part of the
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Speaker 5: country and they know how to spot these slaves. I mean,
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Speaker 5: so many stories about, you know, a slave woman will
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Speaker 5: be at the market or she'll be gathering water or
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Speaker 5: tending the flock. And one of our retrievers will recognize
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Speaker 5: the hallmarks. I mean, frankly, a lot of them are
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Speaker 5: physically scarred from abuse and things like that. And they'll say, hey,
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Speaker 5: do you want to be free? And then they'll negotiate freedom,
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Speaker 5: not with money, but with a cattle vaccine that these ranchers,
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Speaker 5: these slave owners need. And that's how we've been doing this.
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Speaker 5: Your $ 250 gift does that. Also provides them with the
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Speaker 5: resources necessary to start a new life. It's a dairy goat.
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Speaker 5: It's a bag of hope with all sorts of supplies, food,
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Speaker 5: and everything they need, Kevin, to start a new life
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Speaker 5: and freedom. That's what we get to do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. $ 250 liberates a life, sometimes the life of the
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Speaker 1: mom and the child, sometimes two.
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Speaker 3: 1-888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
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Speaker 1: Or go to ThatKevinShow.com and click the CSI banner at
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Speaker 1: the top or the bottom of the page. ThatKevinShow.com, the
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Speaker 1: CSI banner, or 888-342-1010. 342-1010 and liberate a life.
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Speaker 7: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. I'm Kevin McCullough. Glad to have
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Speaker 1: you with us. Glad to take this time, this moment,
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Speaker 1: this portion of the show at the beginning of each
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Speaker 1: show to kind of get us grounded, get us rooted
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Speaker 1: in some real truth that we can then kind of
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Speaker 1: interpret the rest of everything else about. Like, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: matter whose house got raided or what country we're at
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Speaker 1: war with or any of the rest of it if
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Speaker 1: we can't think biblically about what is happening around us.
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Speaker 1: So that's why this has become such an important part
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Speaker 1: of the show, at least to me. And I am
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Speaker 1: hearing from enough of you that I think we've struck
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Speaker 1: on something here. Jason Warman is back with us. God's
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Speaker 1: Cookbook is his brand new title. And we just started
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Speaker 1: working on it yesterday. And Jason, you were telling us
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Speaker 1: the only ingredient that God gives us is salt. And
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Speaker 1: we talked about what salt is and kind of how
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Speaker 1: it operates. There's also something that He he doesn't he
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Speaker 1: warns us about in terms of an ingredient. And there's
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Speaker 1: a little bit different approach to it. And it's called leaven.
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Speaker 1: Probably the closest thing that most Americans think of when
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Speaker 1: they hear that word is leaven worth leaven. But what
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Speaker 1: is leaven in the biblical sense? And why does Jesus care?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's one ingredient. He said, be salt
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Speaker 3: everywhere you go, like express the morals, values, truth of Christianity,
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Speaker 3: live it out in every segment of society. But then
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Speaker 3: he just there was one ingredient that he said, you've
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Speaker 3: got to watch out for.
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Speaker 5: Matthew 16, six. He goes, watch it.
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Speaker 3: Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and
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Speaker 3: the Sadducees. And I think when Jesus tells us to
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Speaker 3: watch out for something and beware of something, we probably
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Speaker 3: should really pay attention to that. And he goes, hey, like,
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Speaker 3: watch out for the leaven. And so Saul, you know,
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Speaker 3: we talked about it. It influences a culture. It preserves
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Speaker 3: a culture. If we want to bless nation, if we
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Speaker 3: want a free nation, if we want to live in
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Speaker 3: prosperity and blessing, then Christianity has to have an influence.
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Speaker 3: It has to preserve a culture from decay. But the
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Speaker 3: reason why he said, I want you to watch out
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Speaker 3: for leaven, and I wanted to go into it in
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Speaker 3: the book, is because if salt influences and preserves, leaven
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Speaker 3: influences and corrupts. It influences our ideology. And you've got
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Speaker 3: to be really careful because all of us have ingredients
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Speaker 3: to our ideology. And so you've got to watch the
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Speaker 3: ingredients of your ideology carefully. And the ramification of scripture
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Speaker 3: is that just a little bit of leaven, it doesn't
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Speaker 3: take a whole lot. Just a little bit of leaven,
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Speaker 3: 1 Corinthians 5, 6, it was just a little leaven,
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Speaker 3: leavens the whole lump. And it's why we've got to
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Speaker 3: be careful about how we view the world, our worldview,
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Speaker 3: our ideology, because one small addition to a recipe can
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Speaker 3: have a huge impact.
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Speaker 5: You know, it's like I can.
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Speaker 3: I don't make, full disclosure, I don't belong in the
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Speaker 3: kitchen at all.
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Speaker 1: Actually, following you on Instagram, I was never really confused
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Speaker 1: about that part.
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Speaker 3: But if I baked some chocolate chip cookies and was like, hey,
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Speaker 3: I only put rat poison in one part of the dough.
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Speaker 3: You don't want any of those cookies. I think that's
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Speaker 3: the danger of leaven. If leaven came with... you know
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Speaker 3: skull and crossbones on a red package like you know
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Speaker 3: like poison is labeled then we would go you know
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Speaker 3: i don't want any of that but the problem with
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Speaker 3: leaven is it doesn't look dangerous it doesn't seem poisonous
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Speaker 3: but if it if it infiltrates then it begins to
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Speaker 3: contaminate and like what you see he said watch out
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Speaker 3: for the leaven of the pharisees and the sadducees And
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Speaker 3: I'll do this quickly, but we have drastically, especially in
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Speaker 3: the American church, we have drastically misunderstood the Pharisees and
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Speaker 3: what made them Pharisees. And like the picture that most
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Speaker 3: people have, like conservative Christians who are Bible based, who
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Speaker 3: want to honor God. It's like church goers.
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Speaker 5: It's like, hey, you know.
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Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people, they deem those
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Speaker 3: people Pharisees. And that's not like being a Pharisee isn't
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Speaker 3: just being like, hey, I'm a little judgmental. Or even
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Speaker 3: if you take somebody who's really legalistic with their faith,
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Speaker 3: like that's not a Pharisee. I tell people like I'm
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Speaker 3: not trying to be judgmental. It just comes natural to me.
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Speaker 3: I don't even have to really try to be judgmental.
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to brag, but it comes real easy
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Speaker 3: to me. That's not Phariseeism. Phariseeism is they created their
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Speaker 3: own law, and their law superseded the law of God.
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Speaker 3: And so it was a law that was created by them,
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Speaker 3: and it was a self-righteous law. And self-righteousness doesn't reject righteousness.
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Speaker 3: It claims authority to define what is righteous. And today,
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Speaker 3: we see Phariseeism when there is another law that supersedes
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Speaker 3: the law of God. And we have a lot of
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Speaker 3: syncretism in our culture where there's other ideologies that are
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Speaker 3: infiltrating biblical language. And so we have Christian language without
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Speaker 3: Christian definitions. And that's kind of the essence of what
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Speaker 3: 11 is, it's like, okay, we want to talk about love.
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Speaker 3: We want to talk about compassion. We want to talk
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Speaker 3: about mercy. We want to talk about grace. But what
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Speaker 3: most people don't understand is that there's an ideology that
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Speaker 3: has crept in that when God gives us the pure
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Speaker 3: definition of what love is, and that's why I go
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Speaker 3: into the recipes in the book, like we've got to
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Speaker 3: rediscover what God said, how God defined it. Because there's
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Speaker 3: all of these, we have biblical language today with cultural assumptions.
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Speaker 3: And you have these Pharisees who've created their own lawm.
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Speaker 3: And it supersedes what God said, and then it begins
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Speaker 3: to contaminate recipe. And it doesn't look dangerous. It never
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Speaker 3: seems dangerous, but it becomes very contaminating when we have
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Speaker 3: the same Christian vocabulary, but we have different definitions. And
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Speaker 3: I make the case in the book, I think probably
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Speaker 3: the biggest source of leaven that we have going right
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Speaker 3: now is something that's called critical theory. There's other types
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Speaker 3: of leaven out there. Nihilism is on the move. And
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Speaker 3: so if something just became true over the past 10, 15,
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Speaker 3: 20 years, we need to recognize that leaven has infiltrated.
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Speaker 3: And when you talk about leaven, it's not about the content.
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Speaker 3: It's about the contagion.
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Speaker 5: It's not about just the amount that's infiltrated.
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Speaker 3: Infiltrated it's it's just a little bit of it and
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Speaker 3: we need to recognize today like there is a strong
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Speaker 3: push because that's what critical theory does what's called marxist
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Speaker 3: ideology you see it in movies you see it in
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Speaker 3: commercials you see it in every in politics and you
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Speaker 3: know it it infiltrates and what it does is it
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Speaker 3: takes a political or a different worldview it claims compassion
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Speaker 3: and And then it adds a Bible verse onto the
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Speaker 3: end of it and says, you're not a Christian unless
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Speaker 3: you believe this political ideology. And it dawned on me
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Speaker 3: a while back, like, you'll never find a bigger Bible
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Speaker 3: thumper than a progressive liberal politician trying to get elected
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Speaker 3: and a historically Christian.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but and I would just say the thumping that
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Speaker 1: they do is so dishonest to the text. It's dishonest
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Speaker 1: to the writer. It's dishonest to the. And we have
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Speaker 1: a really good example of this right now. James Tallarico
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Speaker 1: running for the Senate in Texas claims to be a
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Speaker 1: pastor and a believer. And everything he says about scripture,
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Speaker 1: every word I have heard come out of his mouth
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Speaker 1: is a direct misrepresentation of the actual word of God.
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Speaker 3: I talk about him in the book. Because I want
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Speaker 3: people like in the book, there's all these leaven alerts
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Speaker 3: because I want to train people on how to spot leaven.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Whether it's in a movie you're watching, whether it's a
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Speaker 3: politician that you're listening to. We've got to learn what
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Speaker 3: biblical Christianity is. We need to get back to the recipe.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, Jason, doesn't that mean then
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Speaker 1: that it's our job to really know scripture?
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Speaker 5: Well, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Like the idea of how you catch counterfeit money makers
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Speaker 1: is that you handle the real thing all the time.
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Speaker 1: If we're handling scripture, if we're living in scripture, if
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Speaker 1: it's penetrating our heart and mind and life and actions,
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Speaker 1: then we're going to be more sensitive to the stuff
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Speaker 1: that really doesn't match.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 3: That 100%, because that was the play of the Pharisees,
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Speaker 3: was they would take Jesus's words. And I mean, it
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Speaker 3: goes back to the beginning, but Satan is the father
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Speaker 3: of all lies. He doesn't come with an obvious lie.
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Speaker 3: He comes with the manipulation of truth. If it's an
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Speaker 3: obvious lie, we reject it on its face. It just
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Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. But if you take a Bible
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Speaker 3: verse and you manipulate it politically or ideologically, then people
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Speaker 3: hear the Bible verse. But if they don't know the
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Speaker 3: context and they don't know– like Matthew 25, people pump
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Speaker 3: it with immigration. I write about that. Like Matthew 25
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Speaker 3: is not about immigration.
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Speaker 5: It is about.
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Speaker 3: Itinerant preachers who were persecuted for the sake of the gospel.
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Speaker 3: And he says, if you've done it to the least
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Speaker 3: of these, you've done it to me. The least of
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Speaker 3: these were not people trying to illegally immigrate into a nation.
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Speaker 3: It was preachers who were being persecuted and thrown into
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Speaker 3: prison for the gospel. But without the salt of Christianity,
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Speaker 3: without the truth of Scripture, politicians hijack that, manipulate it,
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Speaker 3: and then people think they're being a Christian.
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Speaker 2: All the time.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: All right, Jason, we have run out of time on
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Speaker 1: this very important discussion. Just part two of five that
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Speaker 1: we're going to, uh, go through God's cookbook this week.
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Speaker 1: Friends get the book. It is now available and you can, uh,
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Speaker 1: do that at Jason's website. You can do it through
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Speaker 1: his Instagram page. Um, I'm pretty sure that the church's
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Speaker 1: website has a link to it as well. God's Cookbook,
20:12
Speaker 1: Recovering the Flavor of Faith in a Saltless Age. Just
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Speaker 1: look up God's Cookbook on Amazon or Barnes & Noble
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Speaker 1: and you'll find a copy. But Jason, this is really
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Speaker 1: a dynamic discussion this week. And tomorrow we're going to
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Speaker 1: look at Romans 9. And talk about the salt of love,
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Speaker 1: which should be another very interesting and probably not what
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Speaker 1: we think as we start out. So we'll delve into
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Speaker 1: that as we get into it. Jason, thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming right back. It's a
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Speaker 1: big Tuesday. Lots going on. Stay here.
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Speaker 8: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
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Speaker 2: Next.
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Speaker 8: From new york that kevin kevin mccullough welcome.
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Speaker 1: Back to times square kevin mccullough glad to have you
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Speaker 1: with us that kevin show from anchorage to miami san
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Speaker 1: diego to kenny buckport we're glad to have you with
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Speaker 1: us wherever you may be at and Glad to have
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Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation checking in with us weekly on various
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Speaker 1: items that they're keeping their eyes on across all of
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Speaker 1: the departments, doing the great work there. Mike Gonzalez is
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Speaker 1: back with us, senior fellow there. And Mike, you just
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Speaker 1: published a new op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, kind of,
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Speaker 1: I think, meant to encourage some of the faithful, but
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Speaker 1: a lot of expectation was riding on President Trump coming
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Speaker 1: into this term as to what would happen with policies
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Speaker 1: that had gone crazily woke. And you argue that he's
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Speaker 1: winning that war. Tell us how.
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Speaker 6: Well, the headline that we're winning the war on woke
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Speaker 6: was not mine. That was the journal's headline. That's a
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Speaker 6: bit too enthusiastic.
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Speaker 1: It's too enthusiastic. Okay. Then what's the real score?
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Speaker 6: Well, he's taking the right steps. He's doing remarkably well
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Speaker 6: with the steps that I advise that he take I
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Speaker 6: wrote a piece, I wrote a column in the journal
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Speaker 6: soon after he was elected, almost two years ago. I
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Speaker 6: co-wrote it with Armin Thule, who's now in the administration.
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Speaker 6: And we said, look, these are the five things you
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Speaker 6: must do to fight woke. And he's actually done them,
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Speaker 6: or he's well in progress. So, I mean, we can
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Speaker 6: go through what they are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's review what they are. What were the five things?
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Speaker 6: Okay, so one was to dissolve the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which...
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Speaker 6: existed to fund NPR and PBS. And that is done.
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Speaker 6: The CPB dissolved itself after Congress passed the Administrations Resisting Act,
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Speaker 6: cutting off funding. The CPB board decided there's no point
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Speaker 6: in remaining alive. So that was a dramatic thing. I
23:14
Speaker 6: took part in the hearing with Catherine Marr She had
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Speaker 6: an awful hearing in 2025. She unraveled on the grilling
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Speaker 6: by Republicans. And so that is done. Another thing that
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Speaker 6: was done is the administration did rescind all of the
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Speaker 6: Biden era executive orders that have put the country on,
23:36
Speaker 6: have put woke on steroids. throughout all the departments and
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Speaker 6: all the agencies. All of these have been rescinded. That
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Speaker 6: is done. Then in progress, I would start with one
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Speaker 6: that is well in progress, is retaking control of the
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Speaker 6: Smithsonian Institution. The Smithsonian Institution is a very powerful entity.
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Speaker 6: It's the world's largest museum complex, and not only does
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Speaker 6: it have about 20 million people that go through its
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Speaker 6: doors every year, it reaches an additional 20 million students
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Speaker 6: through its educational programs. And the content is super woke.
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Speaker 6: They blame America for everything. This is the way that
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Speaker 6: they have to take to kind of dismantle the American system.
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Speaker 6: So Lonnie Bunch, the secretary of the Smithsonian, finally gave
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Speaker 6: up and announced that he.
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Speaker 1: Was going to retire. Well, I remember you being on
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Speaker 1: this show talking about how problematic he was.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's going to retire, he announced. So that's in progress.
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Speaker 6: Another one was to get rid of all the the
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Speaker 6: racial and ethnic questions in the U.S. Census. And the U.S.
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Speaker 6: Census has just posted a proposal calling for exactly that.
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Speaker 6: I strongly advise that all Americans go to the Federal
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Speaker 6: Register and look at that proposal. Read it for themselves.
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Speaker 6: This is a duty of civil society, a duty that
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Speaker 6: you have as a citizen. Read it. Make up your
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Speaker 6: own mind. I think it's a great proposal. It gets
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Speaker 6: rid of all the racial questions. So that is another
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Speaker 6: thing that is now the toughest.
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Speaker 1: It's the fifth.
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Speaker 6: And that is to de-wokify universities.
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Speaker 7: Wow.
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Speaker 6: And it's the toughest because the administration is limited in
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Speaker 6: what it can do. By the way, if I could
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Speaker 6: just define woke in 15 seconds, since we're talking about woke,
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Speaker 6: it's this manipulation of guilt that Americans, especially white Americans,
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Speaker 6: feel over things that are not their fault. The things
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Speaker 6: that happened a long time ago, like racism, like... more recently,
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Speaker 6: Jim Crow. So, you know, these are— slavery was something that existed,
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Speaker 6: that we share with all of humanity. You know, I
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Speaker 6: think some estimates that we began to practice slavery as
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Speaker 6: human beings in the Bronze Age, and every country, every society,
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Speaker 6: every group has done this. It's not uniquely American. Racism
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Speaker 6: is not uniquely American. I've lived in seven countries. At
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Speaker 6: least a year in more countries if you count months.
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Speaker 6: By no means the most racist country in the world.
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Speaker 6: So it's manipulating guilt over that, that is wokeism. And
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Speaker 6: the end goal is to change society.
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Speaker 1: Well, and to change it into things that I think
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Speaker 1: arguably make the situations worse almost across the board. And
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Speaker 1: if you do think about it, and I happen to
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Speaker 1: be doing a campaign right now with Christian Solidarity International
26:33
Speaker 1: addressing slavery in northern Sudan, there's more slavery being practiced
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Speaker 1: on planet Earth today than at any point in human history.
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Speaker 1: And you know where it's not practiced? In the West.
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Speaker 1: It's not practiced in Europe. It's not practiced in North America.
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Speaker 1: And this is the great dishonesty of that those who
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Speaker 1: want to make everything about race and those types of things,
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Speaker 1: that they never acknowledge, and they should.
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Speaker 6: And the fight against slavery was initiated by Christians. William Wilberforce,
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Speaker 6: the great English politician who was the one that convinced
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Speaker 6: the UK to police the seas, to make sure that
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Speaker 6: no slave ships were at high seas. He was motivated
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Speaker 6: by his Christian faith. The New England Yankees who marched
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Speaker 6: singing the Battle Hymn of the Republic, singing the words,
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Speaker 6: as he died to make men holy, let us die
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Speaker 6: to make them free. That was Christianity that powered the
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Speaker 6: abolition movement. Let's not forget that.
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Speaker 1: Mike, always appreciate your insights. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Thanks, Kevin.
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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough coming right back from Times Square. Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 8: Here he is, from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough, 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010. That phone number very
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Speaker 1: simply helps you liberate a human slave. Whoa, hold on
28:25
Speaker 1: a second, Kev. What's that about? Human slavery. It's more
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Speaker 1: populous today than it has ever been in human history. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Speaker 1: I thought we had abolition. I thought that the slaves
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Speaker 1: were set free. maybe in the West, maybe because of
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Speaker 1: the influence of Christianity, maybe because, yes, there was a
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Speaker 1: season in which these cultures woke up and said, we
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Speaker 1: got to stop doing this. But friends, in much of
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Speaker 1: the rest of the world, slavery continues on in a
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Speaker 1: horrific fashion. And it varies where you are. In some places,
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Speaker 1: it's indentured servitude where children of people who owed a
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Speaker 1: lot of money and those people died are now in
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Speaker 1: essence slaves of those that are making bricks and they
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Speaker 1: work 20 hours a day with four hours of sleep
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Speaker 1: and almost nothing to eat. There are others that it's
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Speaker 1: just pure sex trafficking. They just take minors and they
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Speaker 1: just make them do what they want them to do.
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Speaker 1: In the case of what we're talking about with the
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Speaker 1: slaves of Sudan, it's a little bit of all of that.
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Speaker 1: It's forced labor. It's sexual abuse. It's spiritual abuse. It's
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Speaker 1: mental abuse. It's physical abuse. It's verbal abuse. Like if
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Speaker 1: you can be abused in any way possible, a Sudanese
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Speaker 1: slave has been abused in that way. And that's why
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Speaker 1: this Christmas I want to give these women the best
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Speaker 1: Christmas gift we could ever give them, which is their
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Speaker 1: liberation and a brand new life. And Todd Chapman is
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Speaker 1: back with us from Christian Solidarity International. But Todd, you
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Speaker 1: think about it, this bag of hope, it comes loaded
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Speaker 1: with food for a year, seed for another year's worth
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Speaker 1: of food. They eat this grain called sorghum. It has
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Speaker 1: all these gadgets and trinkets and things that they need
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Speaker 1: to help clean and fish and do gardening with and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's really not just a bag. It's
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Speaker 1: several bags. But you've got blankets and tarps and things
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Speaker 1: to protect from weather. And then on top of everything
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Speaker 1: else that's in there, there's a dairy she-goat that gives
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Speaker 1: milk that they are given as their own. And they
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Speaker 1: get to take it. And when they receive this, it's
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Speaker 1: like they've won the biggest lottery that you can imagine.
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Speaker 1: Imagine Todd Chapman winning the billion dollar lottery in the
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Speaker 1: state of Michigan. This would be the equivalent for one
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Speaker 1: of these slaves because they've had so little of nothing
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Speaker 1: to themselves. And it gives them everything to start the
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Speaker 1: new life over. And that's what the $ 250 to Christian
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Speaker 1: Solidarity International provides every single one of them.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: It's such a beautiful opportunity that we have. And You know,
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Speaker 5: with the expansion of that Kevin show on to so
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Speaker 5: many new stations in the last year, even though Kevin
30:57
Speaker 5: and I have been bringing this in front of listeners
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Speaker 5: for years, it's so awesome that there's a whole new
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Speaker 5: bunch of people that have probably never heard about this before.
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Speaker 5: And so would you lean in just for a second
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Speaker 5: and would you just prayerfully, seriously, don't say, you know, flippantly,
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Speaker 5: I'll pray about it. Would you seriously, intentionally, prayerfully ask
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Speaker 5: what God would have you do? Because God does not
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Speaker 5: bring opportunities across our path on accident. As a matter
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Speaker 5: of fact, Ephesians 2.10, one of my favorite verses in
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Speaker 5: the Bible. You are God's masterpiece created in Christ Jesus
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Speaker 5: to do good works, which God prepared in advance for
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Speaker 5: you to do. What an awesome verse, man. You're a
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Speaker 5: masterpiece of God. He created you. He redeemed you through
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Speaker 5: his son. And then he has good things for you
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Speaker 5: to do in the world. This might be and I
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Speaker 5: really believe it is if you're hearing this. I just
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Speaker 5: believe that you don't have to agree. It's what I believe.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to put it out there. I think this
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Speaker 5: is one of those good deeds that God ordained for
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Speaker 5: you to do. Free a human being in the name
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Speaker 5: of Jesus, return them to their home country, return them
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Speaker 5: oftentimes to their community, sometimes even reunite them with a
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Speaker 5: family that they were taken from decades ago. I'm looking
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Speaker 5: at a toke story. She was out collecting firewood near
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Speaker 5: her village when she was a young girl. And she,
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Speaker 5: this is kind of weird, but she had climbed a
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Speaker 5: tree to take a nap or something. I guess maybe
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Speaker 5: she was afraid of staying on the ground, but She
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Speaker 5: wakes up from her nap on the tree limb, looks down.
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Speaker 5: There's five armed men that got guns pointing at her
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Speaker 5: and they're like, come down here. And now she's taken to,
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Speaker 5: you know, up north to Sudan where she's put to
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Speaker 5: work doing every, you know, just junky, hard job you
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Speaker 5: can imagine. She's enslaved, sexually abused. This goes on for
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Speaker 5: 19 years. And she's so excited about the opportunity to
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Speaker 5: have her life begin. Now, here's the thing. She lost
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Speaker 5: 19 years of her life.
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Speaker 9: Right?
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Speaker 5: You can never replace that. But the word of God
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Speaker 5: promises that, you know, the Lord will give back what
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Speaker 5: the locusts have eaten. God is able to restore that.
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Speaker 5: Not so much in time, but in so many other blessings. And,
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Speaker 5: you know, Kev, you were talking about, yeah, there's slavery
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Speaker 5: of all different forms. One of the things that makes
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Speaker 5: this particular slavery unique, and I think so much more
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Speaker 5: difficult to bear, it's all bad, but You know, if
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Speaker 5: you're a slave at a brick kiln in Pakistan, oftentimes
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Speaker 5: those are families. They're still enslaved, but they're together. Right.
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Speaker 5: Trafficked children. Oftentimes, yeah, they're living in a brothel, you know,
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Speaker 5: children to a trafficked mom, but they're still in that
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Speaker 5: family unit. Oftentimes in these situations, without exception, these slaves
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Speaker 5: were taken from their family, usually as children. And that's
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Speaker 5: a whole nother level of pain and suffering and trauma.
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Speaker 5: But we get to restore that. You get to let
33:38
Speaker 5: God use you to restore that. It's a beautiful opportunity.
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Speaker 5: Two hundred fifty dollars to liberate a human being in
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Speaker 5: the name of Jesus and put them on the road
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Speaker 5: to a brand new life. What a marvelous opportunity during
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Speaker 5: this holiday season.
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Speaker 1: Well, and I just want to say the one of
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Speaker 1: the things when they get back to the camp, the
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Speaker 1: liberation camp in South Sudan, and they're given plenty of
33:59
Speaker 1: time to get medical attention and sometimes counseling and some
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Speaker 1: other things they may need, they get to tell their story.
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Speaker 1: They've never been able to tell their story to anyone
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Speaker 1: or to talk about it in any way. So to
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Speaker 1: verbalize it and to kind of document it, to help
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Speaker 1: them remember what their given name was from birth, if
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Speaker 1: they can, and kind of trace where their family comes from.
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Speaker 1: But in that, they begin to find solidarity with one another,
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Speaker 1: with other slaves who've been through similar experiences. And if
34:25
Speaker 1: CSI can't find their physical human family Because many times
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Speaker 1: they were shot and killed in front of them, traumatizing
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Speaker 1: them further as they were taken into slavery. They watched
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Speaker 1: their own parents be executed or they watched their mom
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Speaker 1: be gang raped by slaves or by slave masters. These
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Speaker 1: horrible things are all there. If they can't find the
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Speaker 1: human family, then what they've begun is these wonderful communities
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Speaker 1: of these women who have lived this life together, understand
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Speaker 1: what each other has gone through. And in Christian community now,
34:58
Speaker 1: related to churches in places in South Sudan, they get
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Speaker 1: to have these communities of women that live together joyously,
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Speaker 1: rejoicing for their freedom and being able to start their
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Speaker 1: lives over again. And imagine like the most meaningful small
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Speaker 1: group you've ever been part of. This is that on steroids.
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Speaker 1: Like there's so much support there. And then the churches,
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Speaker 1: the churches just, I mean, they make the prodigal son's
35:21
Speaker 1: return home look silly sometimes. Like, it's just they're so
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Speaker 1: rejoiced over when they come home. Friends, that's the gift
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Speaker 10: Serving it up with a no-drink minimum. It's that Kevin
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Speaker 1: All right, Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us.
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Speaker 1: Final few thoughts for this period of time together, friends,
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Speaker 1: about Christian Solidarity International and why it's so important. Look,
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Speaker 1: I'm never going to apologize for asking you to give
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Speaker 1: to great causes. I have told you that from the beginning.
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Speaker 1: This is part of my expression of gratitude back to
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Speaker 1: God for the honor and the privilege and the humble
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Speaker 1: sacrifice coolness that it is to get to do what
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Speaker 1: I do for a living every day. And it wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be possible had he not said, this is what I'm
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Speaker 1: calling you to. But because of that, I want to
36:39
Speaker 1: use a portion of this platform every single day for
36:42
Speaker 1: his glory and to do things that advance his kingdom.
36:45
Speaker 1: And Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International.
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Speaker 1: And Todd, as I have had the chance to not
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Speaker 1: just advocate for CSI on the air over the years,
36:56
Speaker 1: but to get to know the organization and to see
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Speaker 1: how it operates and to understand the biblical and efficiency
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Speaker 1: with which they take their stewardship and the extreme care
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Speaker 1: that is taken with every gift that is given and
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Speaker 1: the integrity behind all of that. I have to say,
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Speaker 1: not only are they doing incredible things, they're one of
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Speaker 1: the best organizations I've ever had the chance to be
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Speaker 1: part of. And that's why I continue to sing their
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Speaker 1: praises long after we're not on the air anymore. Like
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Speaker 1: this is one of my passion organizations that I really,
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Speaker 1: really mean it when I say this, I believe that
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Speaker 1: they are doing God's work in every aspect.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of feel like it's David against Goliath
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Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. You know, we're not a
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Speaker 5: big organization. Many people have never heard of us every
37:39
Speaker 5: time we do a radio campaign. And you may be
37:42
Speaker 5: hearing about CSI, Christian Solidarity International, for the very first time.
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Speaker 5: But man, just because, you know, God has just blessed us.
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Speaker 5: And that's because we're just committed to doing what he
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Speaker 5: says in his word, which is to set captives free
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Speaker 5: and inviting other people to do that. And so over
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Speaker 5: the past You know, 30 plus years over. Get this, friends, over.
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Speaker 5: And this is not me boasting on CSI. This is
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Speaker 5: me boasting on God and boasting on our generous donors
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Speaker 5: that have made this possible. Over 160,000 human beings freed.
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Speaker 5: From captivity, yes, but also the worst possible abuse that
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Speaker 5: you could imagine. And it's gone on for decades. And
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Speaker 5: also children now have been born into that. And I'm
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Speaker 5: really excited about that because if you free a mom
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Speaker 5: right now, more than ever before, we've been able to
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Speaker 5: negotiate not just the freedom of the mom, but the
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Speaker 5: freedom of a child. So for $ 250, man, you can
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Speaker 5: liberate two human beings today. One that has already endured
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Speaker 5: decades of abuse, but one that if we don't get
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Speaker 5: them free, we'll also suffer that. Yeah, we're preventing that.
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Speaker 5: So it's so beautiful. I just wanted to real quickly
38:50
Speaker 5: give you a little encouragement. I'm looking at Isaiah 61.1.
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Speaker 5: And what you're invited to do right now checks every
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Speaker 5: box in this verse. Check this out. The Spirit of
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Speaker 5: the Lord God is on me because the Lord has
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Speaker 5: anointed me to bring good news to the afflicted. Check.
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Speaker 5: Sent me to bind up the brokenhearted. Check.
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Speaker 8: Check.
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Speaker 5: To proclaim liberty to the captives, check. And freedom to prisoners, check.
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Speaker 5: You can check four beautiful biblical opportunities right there with
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Speaker 5: your gift right now. $ 250. You set a captive free.
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Speaker 5: You equip them to step into a new life and freedom. And, man,
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Speaker 5: hands going up in heaven for every gift that you
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Speaker 5: give because that's another human being freed.
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Speaker 9: 888-342.
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Speaker 1: 888-342-1010 is the number where that takes place. 888-342-1010. And
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Speaker 1: you may be saying, well, Kev, why wouldn't they liberate
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Speaker 1: the kids if the moms are being liberated? Well, the
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Speaker 1: slave master views that child who he impregnated the slave
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Speaker 1: with as his property too.
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Speaker 5: Kind of theirs, yeah.
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Speaker 1: And so the idea that we're able to talk him
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Speaker 1: out of a future generation of a slave, which if
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Speaker 1: it's a young boy is a very valuable thing to
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Speaker 1: his calculations, is a God thing. And it did not
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Speaker 1: happen for many, many years that I was involved with CSI.
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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us. If you
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Speaker 1: have not yet helped liberate a human life, it's 888-342-1010. Kev,
42:15
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Liberating a human being from
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Speaker 1: slavery is what I'm talking about. 888-342-1010. What do you
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Speaker 1: mean slavery, Kev? Well, Todd, let's talk about it. Because,
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Speaker 1: you know, people taking other people hostage, not something that's
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Speaker 1: exactly out of the news. Like we see bad actors
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Speaker 1: doing this on the global stage, but for some reason...
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Speaker 1: when it happens in a corner of Sudan where poverty
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Speaker 1: is really great and people don't really care if it's
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Speaker 1: just between Arab Muslims and Christian Southerners, they don't get
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Speaker 1: that excited about it. And it really is a tragedy
42:53
Speaker 1: that has been playing out for some time.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I was thinking about that. So I've thought about that
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Speaker 5: actually several times over the last few years, because what
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Speaker 5: it was three years ago, the October 7th thing that happened. And,
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Speaker 5: You know, several hundred people were taken captive, 1200 murdered.
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Speaker 5: I'm certainly not minimizing that in any way, shape or form.
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Speaker 5: You know, all of us just as human beings don't
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Speaker 5: even have to be a Christian and say, man, that's
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Speaker 5: messed up. That's wrong. That's terrible. But I just think
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Speaker 5: about the days after that and those hostages being held
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Speaker 5: captive that played out in front of everybody every day.
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Speaker 5: You could not escape it. It was in every newscast, radio, TV,
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Speaker 5: evening news, every network, every news network. You couldn't escape it.
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Speaker 5: And justifiably so. Right. Because it was a horrific event.
43:38
Speaker 5: But what we're talking about today, if you think about
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Speaker 5: it just in terms of the human scale of it,
43:44
Speaker 5: we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people that were
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Speaker 5: subjected to the same thing. There were murders. Marauders were
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Speaker 5: allowed to go into communities all throughout a country and
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Speaker 5: just indiscriminately kill people. for religious reasons, right?
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Speaker 1: Or no reason at all.
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Speaker 5: Or no reason at all, yeah.
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Speaker 1: The father of the family looked at him sideways and
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Speaker 1: they're like, I don't like the way you're looking and
44:08
Speaker 1: dead he was.
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Speaker 5: And it was empowered by a government at the time
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Speaker 5: and this is going back to the last century. But
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Speaker 5: the offshoot of that was that hundreds of thousands of
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Speaker 5: mainly women and children taken captive and taken to a
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Speaker 5: country not their own and they've been held ever since.
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Speaker 5: I think It's a travesty, candidly, in my opinion. And
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Speaker 5: I don't say that just as a representative of CSI,
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Speaker 5: but I say that as a human being. Because in
44:37
Speaker 5: the economies of scale, you're like, well, if 300 people
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Speaker 5: being held captive leads the news, certainly hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 5: being held captive should lead the news. But it hasn't.
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Speaker 5: And here we are. But here's the beautiful thing that
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Speaker 5: God has done, even in the absence of news coverage
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Speaker 5: and public sentiment. I mean, this is unknown. But God...
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Speaker 5: raised up a little organization called Christian Solidarity International. And,
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Speaker 5: you know, if you're new to that, Kevin, so you've
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Speaker 5: probably never heard about us until now. But I'll tell
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Speaker 5: you what, small but mighty, God has done incredible things,
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Speaker 5: not so much through CSI, but through you joining with
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Speaker 5: what God laid on CSI's heart. And that was to,
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Speaker 5: number one, way back, you know, in the last century,
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Speaker 5: stop the Civil War, stop the taking of the slaves.
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Speaker 5: But now since then, CSI has again, powered by God's people,
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Speaker 5: has done what the government failed to do. The government
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Speaker 5: stopped the Civil War, said, you can't take any more slaves.
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Speaker 5: And CSI at the time said, okay, let's go get
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Speaker 5: them back. And they said, yeah, no, we're not going
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Speaker 5: to do that. So CSI said, well, God's people will.
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Speaker 5: I get choked up, Kevin, because man, God is so awesome.
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Speaker 5: And over 160,000 of those slaves have been liberated in
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Speaker 5: the intervening years. One by one, clumps of a few
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Speaker 5: hundred every year, And we go, we negotiate their freedom.
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Speaker 5: We bring them back into South Sudan. We reunite them
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Speaker 5: with their family, with their community whenever we can. And
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Speaker 5: if we can't find their family and can't find where
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Speaker 5: they came from, because maybe they were taken captive as
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Speaker 5: a two or three year old child, they don't know.
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Speaker 5: Then we set them up in families there. We set
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Speaker 5: them up in communities. And it's all powered by God's people,
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Speaker 5: largely here in America. And it's all supported by Christian,
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Speaker 5: the Christian church there in South Sudan. this is such
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Speaker 5: a beautiful picture of the gospel. This is what we're
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Speaker 5: here to do. And so we, I'm so excited that
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Speaker 5: we get to invite you into this every year here
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Speaker 5: on that Kevin show. And over the years, I think
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Speaker 5: about 4,000 slaves have been liberated through listeners of this program.
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Speaker 5: And we just want to keep adding to that number
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Speaker 5: and invite you to be a part of it.
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Speaker 2: 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010.
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Speaker 1: I think there are reasons, Todd, why This story hasn't
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Speaker 1: been championed, and I think that it doesn't make one
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Speaker 1: story better or the other one worse, to point it out.
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Speaker 1: Following October 7th, you had a lot of young people
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Speaker 1: that were at that music conference, a lot of really
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Speaker 1: beautiful young people that loved their families and were having
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Speaker 1: a great time and probably had a lot of connection
47:09
Speaker 1: and success and other things going for them in life.
47:12
Speaker 1: And so, of course, the tragedy is that those lives
47:15
Speaker 1: are cut short. And every one of those women that
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Speaker 1: they paraded through the streets that had been raped and
47:19
Speaker 1: disfigured and everything else that, of course, we violently dislike
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Speaker 1: that in our soul because it is an act of injustice.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 1: But then I have to ask you, if you're listening,
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Speaker 1: does that sound really that much different from a young
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Speaker 1: girl who's taken from her mother at seven or eight
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Speaker 1: years of age, marched into another country? Forcibly raped repeatedly
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Speaker 1: throughout her life, forcibly beaten throughout her life, threatened her life,
47:48
Speaker 1: threatened many times being told she has to give up
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Speaker 1: her religion. And in order to be a sign that
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Speaker 1: she has done so, she has to take a sharp
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Speaker 1: object of some sort, go to a creek and self-circumcise.
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be graphic. I'm trying to be
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Speaker 1: honest about what this is. I mean, is that story
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Speaker 1: of those young people and what happened to them after
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Speaker 1: October 7th that different? It's not that different. And you
48:12
Speaker 1: know what is amazing, Todd? And I am always choked
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Speaker 1: up by this. When you see the pictures of these girls...
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Speaker 1: Years later, after they've gone through all the suffering that
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Speaker 1: they've gone through, and they are told that they are
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Speaker 1: now free, the smile that emanates from their face, the
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Speaker 1: joy that comes from their heart. It's like you can't
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Speaker 1: describe the amount of happiness that resides within them. They've
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Speaker 1: been in the darkest place imaginable, and now they are
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Speaker 1: in the light of the hope of returning to their family,
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Speaker 1: to returning to free worship of Jesus Christ, all these things.
48:49
Speaker 1: And one gift makes that happen. A gift of $ 250
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Speaker 1: makes that happen. And I just want to add this.
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Speaker 1: These women that do this, almost to a person, tell
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Speaker 1: the CSI folks that rescue them and bring them out
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Speaker 1: of slavery. They will say, thank you, thank you, thank you,
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Speaker 1: thank you. They are so full of gratitude. They are
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Speaker 1: just deeply, deeply grateful. And then they'll say, but, and
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Speaker 1: everyone stops because you're like, well, what could be the
49:17
Speaker 1: but that needs to be said after all the thank you?
49:19
Speaker 1: And their concern is don't stop.
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Speaker 5: Don't stop.
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Speaker 1: Until every last one comes home.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And there may be another 30 or 40,000 that are there,
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Speaker 1: but their heart has every reason to rejoice and forget
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Speaker 1: about that life. And their concern, even in that moment,
49:36
Speaker 1: is for the ones that are still there. Friends, let's
49:38
Speaker 1: help them. 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010, whatever, however many lives you would
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Speaker 1: like to liberate, multiply that by 250. That's the amount.
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Speaker 1: Here's a couple of creative ways to do it. If
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Speaker 1: you can't afford one at a time, do 125 over
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Speaker 1: two months, do 50 over six months, do 25 over
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Speaker 1: 10 months. That takes care of one. If you want
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Speaker 1: to do maybe a dozen, then do one a month.
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Speaker 1: Do 250 every month for the next year and liberate
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Speaker 1: 12 lives. If you have the ability to do more
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Speaker 1: than that, then do that and divide it by 250
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Speaker 1: and that's how many lives you've helped save. But whatever
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Speaker 1: you're doing right now, the Lord saw to it that
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Speaker 1: you would hear this and it's not by accident. I
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Speaker 1: don't believe there are accidents. I believe that God is
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Speaker 1: sovereign and what is intended to happen happens and you're
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Speaker 1: listening now for a reason. 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010, or go to thatcabinshow.com.
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Speaker 8: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 8: All right, welcome.
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Speaker 7: Back.
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Speaker 1: It's the Tuesday edition. And one of the best parts
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Speaker 1: of my job is I get to talk to really
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Speaker 1: ingeniously smart people. And my next guest is one of my,
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Speaker 1: I fan boy over her all the time because she
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Speaker 1: is just one of the smartest ladies I've ever spent
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Speaker 1: time with. She doesn't know much about how to deep
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Speaker 1: fry a turkey, but she can tell you everything about
51:21
Speaker 1: the Pentagon and what we need to do militarily on
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Speaker 1: the planet that I've ever met in a human being.
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Speaker 1: Katie McFarlane, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure and an honor. I may be calling
51:29
Speaker 2: you up for instruction about deep frying turkey in the
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Speaker 2: next few weeks.
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Speaker 1: Well, she turned to me once in the strategy room
51:35
Speaker 1: at Fox News and said, how do you know that?
51:38
Speaker 1: And I didn't have a good answer for her, but
51:40
Speaker 1: we've been friends ever since. Katie, you always talk about
51:44
Speaker 1: foreign policy and stuff. Obviously, there's an election. Obviously, there's
51:48
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on. You know, I think
51:52
Speaker 1: the Democrats can't really get out of their own way
51:54
Speaker 1: to save their hide. But they there is there is
51:57
Speaker 1: some chatter that they're trying to put forward in the
52:00
Speaker 1: discussion about why Republicans shouldn't be given the rest of
52:04
Speaker 1: Trump's term, control of Congress, et cetera. Let's play devil's
52:08
Speaker 1: advocate and say worst case scenario happens. Mike Johnson doesn't
52:13
Speaker 1: pull his weight in Congress and Leader Thune doesn't get
52:16
Speaker 1: it done in the Senate. And they flip the Congress
52:20
Speaker 1: into others' hands. You've thought this through. What do you
52:23
Speaker 1: think happens?
52:24
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's all in a twist about, oh, Trump's
52:27
Speaker 2: going to lose the midterms, end of the world. Everything
52:30
Speaker 2: he's done is going to be reversed. Communists are going
52:32
Speaker 2: to run America. I don't think so. I mean, if
52:34
Speaker 2: you look, let's take it, break it down step by
52:36
Speaker 2: step by step. OK, so what if the House of
52:39
Speaker 2: Representatives is in Democrats' hands? Look, for sure, 24-7, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.
52:44
Speaker 2: Every committee in Congress will hold impeachment hearings. And they'll
52:47
Speaker 2: subpoena everybody from the Trump administration to anybody who is
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Speaker 2: a MAGA Republican. I mean, they're probably, you know, they're probably.
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Speaker 1: You and I will be on the list just because
52:56
Speaker 1: we had this conversation.
52:56
Speaker 2: We're right at the top of the list. We're at
52:58
Speaker 2: the top of the list. And so Trump's been to
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Speaker 2: this movie before. Impeachment was the predominant thing in the
53:04
Speaker 2: second half of his first term. So he knows what
53:06
Speaker 2: this looks like. He knows how to handle it. And
53:09
Speaker 2: he's not going to get spooked. And so what happens
53:12
Speaker 2: if you're subpoenaed? You and I are subpoenaed. Well, we
53:14
Speaker 2: could always just say, no, thank you. We're not going
53:16
Speaker 2: to show up. And then what happens? Well, the procedure
53:19
Speaker 2: is as follows. The House of Representatives or the Senate,
53:23
Speaker 2: they can subpoena you. If you don't show up, they
53:25
Speaker 2: then hold you in contempt of Congress and they vote
53:28
Speaker 2: a resolution to have your name referred to the Justice
53:31
Speaker 2: Department to say, would you proceed with criminal prosecution against
53:36
Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough? And the Justice Department can say, just decide no.
53:41
Speaker 2: And this is the Trump Justice Department. You know, Peter
53:43
Speaker 2: Navarro and Steve Bannon were both subpoenaed in such a
53:46
Speaker 2: way that I've just described. And their contempt of Congress
53:49
Speaker 2: was referred to the Biden Justice Department for prosecution. The
53:53
Speaker 2: Biden Justice Department couldn't wait to prosecute them. And so
53:56
Speaker 2: they ended up in jail. I think the Trump administration,
53:59
Speaker 2: particularly the Trump Justice Department, where he is in control
54:02
Speaker 2: of the Justice Department, unlike his first term when it
54:04
Speaker 2: was really controlled by the bureaucrats. And he had a
54:07
Speaker 2: weak attorney generals. Now it's in the hands of strong
54:10
Speaker 2: attorney generals. So I don't think that gets that doesn't happen.
54:14
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to go to jail in the Trump administration.
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Speaker 2: Justice Department for defined subpoenas from Congress, I don't think.
54:22
Speaker 1: Then the Senate.
54:23
Speaker 5: What do you need the Senate for?
54:24
Speaker 2: Well, you need it to confirm presidential appointees, cabinet officers.
54:28
Speaker 2: Trump's already got a great cabinet. He's not going to
54:30
Speaker 2: fire these guys. He wants to keep them. So they
54:32
Speaker 2: don't really need the Senate for that.
54:34
Speaker 5: So what do you need Congress for?
54:35
Speaker 2: Well, Congress will vote to have more spending, raise taxes,
54:39
Speaker 2: all the things that a Democrat would want. And Trump
54:43
Speaker 2: can just say, no, thank you. I'm not signing that
54:45
Speaker 2: those those bills into law. And the Democrats will say, well,
54:50
Speaker 2: we're going to shut down government. Then Trump will say,
54:52
Speaker 2: just that's fine. I like to shut down government. I
54:54
Speaker 2: don't like bureaucrats. So I see I don't really see
54:57
Speaker 2: that that's a problem for Trump. Not a big problem,
55:00
Speaker 2: but not an insurmountable problem. It'll give a lot of,
55:03
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of anxiety to people who are
55:06
Speaker 2: watching CNN and a lot of But that's not going
55:09
Speaker 2: to change Trump's policies. So what are Trump's policies? They're
55:13
Speaker 2: already baked in the cake. So we had the Trump
55:16
Speaker 2: tariff wars, trade wars. We won those trade wars. We
55:18
Speaker 2: have new trade agreements with all these countries to our
55:21
Speaker 2: great advantage. The border is already closed. The Democrats in
55:24
Speaker 2: Congress can't open the border. We already have Greenland. They
55:28
Speaker 2: can't give back Greenland. We've got Greenland. We've got $ 30
55:32
Speaker 2: trillion of investment coming into the United States to build
55:36
Speaker 2: high-end manufacturing, And employment opportunities for good jobs for Americans.
55:43
Speaker 2: That's going to translate into thousands, hundreds, probably millions of
55:46
Speaker 2: new jobs for Americans in the next several years. That's
55:49
Speaker 2: already baked in the cake. The tax cuts, the streamlining
55:55
Speaker 2: of regulations, those are already baked in. The streamlining of
56:00
Speaker 2: cutting the red tape, that's already started happening. AI, promotion
56:03
Speaker 2: of AI, that's already started. Congress can't do a whole
56:06
Speaker 2: lot about any of these things that they're going to
56:08
Speaker 2: scream about. And so if it's true, and I think
56:12
Speaker 2: it is true, that we are on the verge of
56:14
Speaker 2: massive economic growth with the new trade deals, with a
56:20
Speaker 2: number of government employees, with the investment coming in the
56:22
Speaker 2: United States, with artificial intelligence, and particularly with energy dominance.
56:27
Speaker 2: We are headed for maybe 5% economic growth, as Scott
56:31
Speaker 2: Besson says. Even the New York Times hates Trump. 24-7
56:34
Speaker 2: hates Trump. They're even saying that the economy is actually
56:37
Speaker 2: looking pretty good. The stock market is up. The stock
56:40
Speaker 2: market doesn't seem to be affected. So by 2028... If
56:45
Speaker 2: you have a two-year run of economic prosperity under the
56:49
Speaker 2: last two years of the Trump administration and you go
56:52
Speaker 2: into the 2028 presidential election, what are you going to have? Well,
56:56
Speaker 2: you're going to have massive economic growth and success of
56:58
Speaker 2: people with new and great jobs versus whoever the communists
57:03
Speaker 2: that the Democrats are going to put up. Because the Democrats,
57:06
Speaker 2: the wing of the Democrats, they're having a civil war, right?
57:08
Speaker 2: And who's winning the Democrats' civil war? The far, far,
57:10
Speaker 2: far left. Right. So I don't see the next two
57:14
Speaker 2: years of the Trump administration being terribly hindered or hampered
57:19
Speaker 2: by a Democrat Congress. And I don't see the 2028
57:22
Speaker 2: election going in the way of the Democrats because of
57:26
Speaker 2: all the terrible things the Democrats are going to do
57:28
Speaker 2: to Trump in the next two years.
57:30
Speaker 1: That is a keen assessment, KT, and so concise and
57:34
Speaker 1: well put. I may not even see or understand everything
57:37
Speaker 1: you just laid out. And I think on the foreign
57:40
Speaker 1: policy front, he becomes even more bold in terms of
57:44
Speaker 1: how he brings an end to things. And even in
57:47
Speaker 1: his negotiations with like Putin and Zelensky, I think you're
57:50
Speaker 1: going to see a stronger hand of leadership there. kind
57:53
Speaker 1: of regardless of the outcome of what the elections do.
57:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because of economic prosperity. This is what happened
57:58
Speaker 2: with Reagan. And the economy that started turning around in 1983–
58:04
Speaker 2: really gave Reagan a lot of wind behind his sails
58:09
Speaker 2: when he's dealing with other countries. So look, by 2028,
58:12
Speaker 2: the Iran war is done, one way or the other.
58:14
Speaker 2: Economic prosperity is not happening in Europe. They're having zero
58:17
Speaker 2: economic growth. China, for a whole lot of its own problems, reasons,
58:21
Speaker 2: is probably not going to have the kind of economic
58:22
Speaker 2: growth we're talking about.
58:23
Speaker 5: In the United States.
58:25
Speaker 2: So we will be in a very strong position globally,
58:29
Speaker 2: If we are winning the AI race, if our economic
58:32
Speaker 2: prosperity is such that we're growing at 5% a year,
58:35
Speaker 2: it's going to be like an upward spiral, not a
58:38
Speaker 2: downward death spiral. It's an upward prosperity cycle. I think
58:42
Speaker 2: President Trump will go down. All the things I've said
58:45
Speaker 2: are true. I think President Trump goes down as being
58:47
Speaker 2: one of our handful of top presidents in American history.
58:51
Speaker 1: We've kind of seen Doge go kind of quiet. And
58:54
Speaker 1: there was a lot from USAID that Doge kind of
58:58
Speaker 1: ferreted out and we got taken care of that I
59:01
Speaker 1: think ended up shaping our entire hemisphere. Because if you
59:04
Speaker 1: look at all those countries that have elected pro-American leadership
59:08
Speaker 1: since the start of this Trump term, it corresponds with
59:13
Speaker 1: the absence of USAID money. Are we likely to see
59:17
Speaker 1: more executive action on the Doge front or is that
59:22
Speaker 1: season come and gone from your perspective?
59:24
Speaker 8: Oh, it's here.
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Speaker 2: Go look at it previewed last Monday.
59:29
Speaker 5: It's called America.gov.
59:30
Speaker 2: Everybody should immediately go to America.gov.
59:33
Speaker 5: Type it in.
59:34
Speaker 2: It's the consolidation of all the government functions. So the man,
59:37
Speaker 2: Joe Gebbia, who founded Airbnb, he came in with Elon
59:42
Speaker 2: Musk and was part of the Doge team. And one
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Speaker 2: of the things he found was, oh, my God, these
59:46
Speaker 2: are gazillion government agencies. Nobody's talking to each other.
59:49
Speaker 3: They're all scattered.
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Speaker 2: They're all inefficient. They're all incompetent.
59:53
Speaker 3: They're all expensive.
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Speaker 2: And so he's taken something like 23,000 government websites and
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Speaker 2: consolidated into one. So you can now go to America.gov.
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Speaker 2: And it's artificial AI generated. So you can say or
1:00:08
Speaker 2: type what your problem is. I want to get a
1:00:10
Speaker 2: new passport. I want to know if I'm an American citizen.
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Speaker 2: I want to know if I'm eligible for Social Security.
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Speaker 2: And click, click, click, click. Within a few seconds, you
1:00:18
Speaker 2: get your answer. And it'll be two clicks to get
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Speaker 2: to how do I renew my passport.
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Speaker 1: And there used to be several blocks of buildings in
1:00:26
Speaker 1: Washington that handled all those questions.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: So you don't need those government bureaucrats anymore, first of all.
1:00:32
Speaker 2: And number two, it's become efficient and it's effective. So
1:00:37
Speaker 2: I think that Doge, I mean, the legacy of Doge
1:00:39
Speaker 2: could well be America.gov. It is the coolest website ever.
1:00:44
Speaker 2: And you will click through and you'll think, whoa. And
1:00:47
Speaker 2: then the statistics are it replaces one government website, replaces
1:00:51
Speaker 2: 23,000 government websites. The average person... I was clicking through,
1:00:56
Speaker 2: I don't know, 30, 40 times. You have to click
1:00:58
Speaker 2: through 40 to get to where you wanted to get
1:01:00
Speaker 2: to renew your passport. And the number of man hours
1:01:06
Speaker 2: wasted by you and me, not to mention the government workers,
1:01:09
Speaker 2: as we're clicking through to try to find how do
1:01:12
Speaker 2: I renew my passport. It's just, it's a revolution. And
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Speaker 2: government could suddenly, without doubt, become efficient and competent and user-friendly.
1:01:22
Speaker 2: Who knew?
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Speaker 1: That's incredible. All right, KT, always appreciate the insights. Thank
1:01:28
Speaker 1: you so much.
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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. Thank you.
1:01:30
Speaker 1: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming right back.
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Speaker 10: Stick around for.
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Speaker 1: you to help us set a human being free. right now. Kev,
1:02:23
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Setting people free? You're sounding
1:02:27
Speaker 1: like they're in slavery. I just had this discussion with
1:02:30
Speaker 1: Mike Gonzalez of the Heritage Foundation earlier today. People railing
1:02:35
Speaker 1: against racism and all the problems of the world and
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Speaker 1: the very loudest voices that argue about that stuff ignore
1:02:44
Speaker 1: the fact, ignore the fact that we have more enslaved
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Speaker 1: peoples in the world today than pre-abolition. And that is
1:02:56
Speaker 1: mind-boggling for some, but friends, it is true. Just because
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Speaker 1: it's hard to believe doesn't mean we shouldn't understand what
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Speaker 1: the facts say. It is in fact true. And that's
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Speaker 1: fill this airtime up with all kinds of other things.
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Speaker 1: I want to specifically focus on this because I believe
1:03:24
Speaker 1: in the cause of the good that it does. Todd
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Speaker 1: Chapman is back with us from CSI. And Todd, the
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Speaker 1: thing that I just said to open the segment with
1:03:34
Speaker 1: is really true. People are kind of blown away. It's
1:03:37
Speaker 1: kind of you say slavery still exists. That's one level
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Speaker 1: of shock. But then you say it exists at a
1:03:43
Speaker 1: bigger level and more prominent than it's ever been on
1:03:46
Speaker 1: global history. People think that are listening to me mostly
1:03:50
Speaker 1: think in the North American Western construct and in Europe
1:03:54
Speaker 1: and in the Americas, we pretty much don't have slavery
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Speaker 1: because of some good people that did some good things
1:04:00
Speaker 1: a long time ago. But it does go on in
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Speaker 1: a lot of other places.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, actually, I was just looking up the latest stats
1:04:08
Speaker 5: on that. So it's estimated and this is probably a
1:04:10
Speaker 5: squishy number because it's very difficult to track this and
1:04:13
Speaker 5: measure this. But It's estimated that there's at least 50
1:04:16
Speaker 5: million people in some form of slavery around the world.
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Speaker 5: Think about that. That's what about, you know, 350 million
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Speaker 5: people in America. So imagine if one out of every.
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Speaker 1: Million on the planet, isn't that something like one out
1:04:31
Speaker 1: of every 16 people?
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, you're asking me to do math and I'm
1:04:36
Speaker 5: terrible at math, but a lot of people.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 5: It's too many people. And, you know, I just looked
1:04:43
Speaker 5: this up. This blew my mind. Globally, 167 countries around
1:04:49
Speaker 5: the world have some form of slavery, forced labor, forced marriage,
1:04:53
Speaker 5: you know, trafficking. I mean, it's it is a huge problem.
1:04:57
Speaker 5: It's growing, you know, child trafficking in particular, fastest growing
1:05:01
Speaker 5: form of organized crime on the face of the earth.
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Speaker 5: And so, yeah, I think, you know, where we're going
1:05:06
Speaker 5: with this is this is something that obviously God abhors
1:05:11
Speaker 5: and hates. This is not his construct. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 5: the Bible is very clear. It is for Christ. It
1:05:17
Speaker 5: is for freedom that Christ himself came.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 5: God sent his one. and only son to buy our
1:05:22
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Speaker 5: So as his children, as his followers, we need to
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Speaker 5: We tend to live a pretty isolated existence. And I think,
1:05:37
Speaker 5: you know, people say, well, I'm not surprised that there
1:05:39
Speaker 5: are slaves in the world. But you probably are blown
1:05:42
Speaker 5: away when you hear the actual numbers. Now, the question,
1:05:46
Speaker 5: what can you as one person do about it? That's
1:05:49
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1:05:52
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Speaker 1: 49.6 million. You had that part right. Nearly 50 million
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Speaker 1: people in slavery. About 28 million are in forced labor.
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Speaker 1: About 22 million are in some sort of forced marriage.
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Speaker 1: About 12.5 million are children. Let that sink in.
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Speaker 5: About one in four.
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Speaker 1: That's the equivalent of basically the entire tri-state or the
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Speaker 1: entire city of New York.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Here he is from New York, that Kevin.
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Speaker 6: Kevin.
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Speaker 8: McCullough.
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Speaker 10: Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: you can think in the United States, you can get
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Speaker 1: us every day, Monday through Friday. Thank you for being here.
1:09:18
Speaker 1: Very honored to have Ambassador Carla Sands back with us
1:09:21
Speaker 1: from the America First Policy Institute. First of all, I
1:09:24
Speaker 1: love AFPI and everything that they're about. But Ambassador, you
1:09:28
Speaker 1: were the very first person on my show after Donald
1:09:31
Speaker 1: Trump got elected to even broach the subject of Greenland.
1:09:37
Speaker 1: And it's been a few weeks since the announcement that
1:09:41
Speaker 1: we've had some success on that front. But I'm dying
1:09:44
Speaker 1: to know your thoughts, not just Because we all saw
1:09:47
Speaker 1: it play out and how the president said he wanted
1:09:49
Speaker 1: to go get it, kind of did the typical Trump thing,
1:09:51
Speaker 1: launched the big cannon shot. Everybody reacts and recoils. And
1:09:56
Speaker 1: then secretly Rubio and those people go into these private conversations.
1:09:59
Speaker 1: And then for months, Greenland and Denmark and the U.S.
1:10:02
Speaker 1: are talking together. Take us inside what you think happened
1:10:06
Speaker 1: and exactly how it all came about.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely. And Kevin, one of the biggest shocks for me
1:10:12
Speaker 9: was that they kept those discussions quiet.
1:10:15
Speaker 1: Right. It was shocking when they announced it.
1:10:19
Speaker 5: And they did it.
1:10:20
Speaker 9: So I'm so proud of all three, you know, countries
1:10:23
Speaker 9: coming together and actually maintaining that cone of silence to
1:10:27
Speaker 9: get the deal done. And it is exciting that the
1:10:30
Speaker 9: deal is done and that we.
1:10:32
Speaker 6: Got what we needed.
1:10:32
Speaker 9: And people who are shocked at President Trump coming in
1:10:36
Speaker 9: and saying the things he said are Never read his book,
1:10:39
Speaker 9: The Art of the Deal, I think, because this is
1:10:43
Speaker 9: how he works. He disrupts the, I would say, the
1:10:48
Speaker 9: sacred cows. He disrupts how things usually are, which is
1:10:52
Speaker 9: people talk around issues for years or decades and not
1:10:56
Speaker 9: much happens. Instead, he is really results driven, not process driven.
1:11:01
Speaker 9: Europe is generally process driven. You don't see many results
1:11:05
Speaker 9: or at least.
1:11:06
Speaker 8: Not good ones.
1:11:07
Speaker 9: So he got a deal done that gives the United
1:11:10
Speaker 9: States the ability to expand our presence in Greenland to
1:11:15
Speaker 9: have to make sure that adversaries don't come in. And
1:11:20
Speaker 9: even if Greenland leaves Denmark in the kingdom, which they
1:11:24
Speaker 9: will this century, we will have this security agreement. And
1:11:28
Speaker 9: that was really the biggest need for the United States
1:11:31
Speaker 9: because they're part of the Golden Dome. And also for
1:11:35
Speaker 9: an adversary to control the world's largest island, one third
1:11:39
Speaker 9: the size of the continental U.S., would be very dangerous
1:11:43
Speaker 9: because whoever controls that island can control the skies and
1:11:46
Speaker 9: the seas themselves. in the North Atlantic, where a lot
1:11:49
Speaker 9: of flights take place, but also where trade and defense
1:11:52
Speaker 9: and offense takes place on the sea, not just the air.
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Speaker 1: It's my understanding, too, that ICBMs can find their fastest
1:11:59
Speaker 1: path to America coming over the top of the globe
1:12:02
Speaker 1: from Russia and China, as opposed to circumnavigating it. And
1:12:07
Speaker 1: I think that it's just really imperative for people to
1:12:10
Speaker 1: understand what a big deal this is, not just for
1:12:13
Speaker 1: the U.S., but it helps protect all of the West.
1:12:15
Speaker 1: Most of Europe our friends, the Canadians, which they are
1:12:19
Speaker 1: our friends, but North America and particularly our East Coast,
1:12:23
Speaker 1: which is so vulnerable. But I want to go, because
1:12:26
Speaker 1: you were ambassador to Denmark, is that correct?
1:12:30
Speaker 9: I was, but Denmark is a kingdom. It also, Denmark
1:12:34
Speaker 9: as a kingdom is also Greenland and the Faroe Islands.
1:12:38
Speaker 1: Right. So as, that was what fascinated me was because
1:12:41
Speaker 1: you really understood what they were thinking the whole time
1:12:44
Speaker 1: Trump started launching this trial balloon out there a few
1:12:49
Speaker 1: months ago. And you told us on this show that
1:12:53
Speaker 1: they didn't much appreciate the balloon being floated, but partly
1:12:58
Speaker 1: because it exposed what a bad job they had done
1:13:01
Speaker 1: of taking care of Greenland.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
1:13:04
Speaker 9: Denmark was existentially threatened because Greenland makes them a big power.
1:13:11
Speaker 9: They're an Arctic power because of Greenland. They have a
1:13:15
Speaker 9: big land mass because of Greenland. Otherwise- Denmark's like the
1:13:18
Speaker 9: size of New Jersey and with the economy like the
1:13:23
Speaker 9: state of Colorado with a little over 5 million people.
1:13:27
Speaker 9: And then they also have the Faroe Islands, which is
1:13:29
Speaker 9: a tiny chain of islands near the Scottish Shetland Islands.
1:13:34
Speaker 9: So with a fish economy and they're diversifying as well,
1:13:39
Speaker 9: and they have a higher GDP than Denmark does, the
1:13:43
Speaker 9: Faroe Islands. And so- They're successful and they're good businessmen
1:13:49
Speaker 9: and women. Greenland, on the other hand, depends on welfare
1:13:53
Speaker 9: from Denmark. They were oppressed by the Danes and they
1:13:58
Speaker 9: never found their way out. And they just basically subsist
1:14:03
Speaker 9: on fish and welfare transfer. So it's kind of like being,
1:14:06
Speaker 9: if you go to a town that's mostly on welfare
1:14:08
Speaker 9: and you can kind of see the malaise, the, the, the,
1:14:12
Speaker 9: the sort of societal ills that come out of that
1:14:16
Speaker 9: because men are, it, it, it takes away their power, their, their, um,
1:14:20
Speaker 9: their drive, I think. And so, um, you see the
1:14:24
Speaker 9: women actually succeeding in many cases more than the men.
1:14:28
Speaker 9: It's not good for society. And, um, So what President
1:14:32
Speaker 9: Trump has done is he's thrown Greenland a lifeline. They'll
1:14:36
Speaker 9: be able to do more business with the U.S. because
1:14:39
Speaker 9: now we're going to have this new security relationship. And
1:14:43
Speaker 9: I think companies will be– they'll feel more secure to
1:14:47
Speaker 9: make investments in Greenland, maybe in tourism, which would be
1:14:50
Speaker 9: an easy win for the Greenlanders. But ultimately, Kevin, I
1:14:54
Speaker 9: have to tell you, Greenland can become the world's richest island,
1:14:58
Speaker 9: richest absolutely– They have two to three times as much
1:15:01
Speaker 9: oil and gas as Norway has in their North Sea.
1:15:05
Speaker 9: And if they harvest that and they create a sovereign
1:15:09
Speaker 9: wealth fund like Alaska did, Norway has the world's largest
1:15:14
Speaker 9: sovereign wealth fund. Greenlands will exceed Norway's if they are
1:15:18
Speaker 9: successful at this effort. and they structure it right, they'll
1:15:22
Speaker 9: become the world's richest people. There's only about 57,000, 58,000
1:15:27
Speaker 9: people in Greenland. I will just raise that our manufacturing
1:15:31
Speaker 9: of arms has to really fundamentally change and be more nimble.
1:15:36
Speaker 9: These old legacy companies, which we love, but they're really
1:15:39
Speaker 9: not built for today, for the military of today, which
1:15:42
Speaker 9: has real-time feedback. And, you know, arms have to change
1:15:48
Speaker 9: very quickly. You can see them changing in Ukraine just
1:15:51
Speaker 9: in weeks. They have a new model that can have
1:15:53
Speaker 9: an edge over the threat. So we're going to have
1:15:56
Speaker 9: to fundamentally change how we defend the United States. And
1:15:59
Speaker 9: I think President Trump's aware of that. And the Golden
1:16:02
Speaker 9: Dome will be something that can actually plug in and
1:16:06
Speaker 9: achieve a real security for the people of the United
1:16:10
Speaker 9: States and Canada. And I think it's going to be
1:16:13
Speaker 9: a very important thing because the threats are it's unbelievable
1:16:17
Speaker 9: how fast our adversaries are learning and adapting, watching what's going.
1:16:22
Speaker 3: On in the Ukraine war.
1:16:24
Speaker 1: Ambassador Carla Sands, always a delight to have you with us.
1:16:26
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here.
1:16:28
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me, Kevin.
1:16:29
Speaker 1: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming right back. Don't go anywhere.
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1:16:55
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us.
1:16:57
Speaker 1: Final few thoughts for this period of time together, friends,
1:17:01
Speaker 1: about Christian Solidarity International and why it's so important. Look,
1:17:05
Speaker 1: I'm never going to apologize for asking you to give
1:17:08
Speaker 1: to great causes. I have told you that from the beginning.
1:17:11
Speaker 1: This is part of my expression of gratitude back to
1:17:14
Speaker 1: God for the honor and the privilege and the humble
1:17:18
Speaker 1: coolness that it is to get to do what I
1:17:19
Speaker 1: do for a living every day. And it wouldn't be
1:17:21
Speaker 1: possible had he not said, this is what I'm calling
1:17:24
Speaker 1: you to. But because of that, I want to use
1:17:26
Speaker 1: a portion of this platform every single day for his
1:17:29
Speaker 1: glory and to do things that advance his kingdom. And
1:17:32
Speaker 1: Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International.
1:17:35
Speaker 1: And Todd, as I have had the chance to not
1:17:39
Speaker 1: just advocate for CSI on the air over the years,
1:17:42
Speaker 1: but to get to know the organization and to see
1:17:44
Speaker 1: how it operates and to understand the biblical efficiency with
1:17:48
Speaker 1: which they take their stewardship and the extreme care that
1:17:52
Speaker 1: is taken with every gift that is given and the
1:17:55
Speaker 1: integrity behind all of that. I have to say, not
1:17:58
Speaker 1: only are they doing incredible things, they're one of the
1:18:00
Speaker 1: best organizations I've ever had the chance to be part of.
1:18:03
Speaker 1: And that's why I continue to sing their praises long
1:18:06
Speaker 1: after we're not on the air anymore. Like this is
1:18:08
Speaker 1: one of my passion organizations. That I really, really mean
1:18:12
Speaker 1: it when I say this. I believe that they are
1:18:14
Speaker 1: doing God's work in every aspect.
1:18:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of feel like it's David against Goliath
1:18:20
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. You know, we're not a
1:18:22
Speaker 5: big organization. Many people have never heard of us every
1:18:26
Speaker 5: time we do a radio campaign. And you may be
1:18:29
Speaker 5: hearing about CSI, Christian Solidarity International, for the very first time.
1:18:34
Speaker 5: But man, just because, you know, God has just blessed us.
1:18:38
Speaker 5: And that's because we're just committed to doing what he
1:18:41
Speaker 5: says in his word, which is to set captives free
1:18:43
Speaker 5: and inviting other people to do that. And so over
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Speaker 5: the past, you know, 30 plus years over, get this
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Speaker 5: friends over. And this is not me boasting on, on CSI.
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Speaker 5: This is me boasting on God and boasting on our
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Speaker 5: generous donors that have made this possible over 160,000 human
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Speaker 5: beings freed from captivity. Yes, but also the worst possible
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Speaker 5: abuse that you could imagine. Verbal, physical, psychological, sexual. I mean,
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Speaker 5: any form of abuse that a human being can endure.
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Speaker 5: These slaves have been subjected to that. And also and
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Speaker 5: it's gone on for decades. And also children now have
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Speaker 5: been born into that. And so and I'm really excited
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Speaker 5: about that, because if you free a mom right now,
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Speaker 5: more than ever before, we've been able to negotiate not
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Speaker 5: just the freedom of the mom, but the freedom of
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Speaker 5: a child. So for two hundred and fifty dollars. Man,
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Speaker 5: you can liberate two human beings, one that has already
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Speaker 5: endured decades of abuse, but one that if we don't
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Speaker 5: get them free, we'll also suffer that. Yeah, we're preventing that.
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Speaker 5: So it's so beautiful. I just wanted to real quickly
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Speaker 5: give you a little encouragement. I'm looking at Isaiah 61.1.
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Speaker 5: And what you're invited to do right now checks every
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Speaker 5: box in this verse. Check this out. The Spirit of
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Speaker 5: the Lord God is on me because the Lord has
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Speaker 5: anointed me to bring good news to the afflicted, sent
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Speaker 5: me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to
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Speaker 5: the captives and freedom to prisoners. You can check four
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Speaker 5: beautiful biblical opportunities right there with your gift right now. $ 250,
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Speaker 5: you set a captive free, you equip them to step
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Speaker 5: into a new life and freedom. And man, hands going
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Speaker 5: up in heaven for every gift that you give, because
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Speaker 5: that's another human being freed.
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Speaker 1: 888-342-1010 is the number where that takes place. 888-342-1010. And
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Speaker 1: you may be saying, well, Kev, why wouldn't they liberate
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Speaker 1: the kids if the moms are being liberated? Well, the
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Speaker 1: slave master views that child who he impregnated the slave
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Speaker 1: with is his property too.
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Speaker 5: Kind of theirs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And so the idea that we're able to talk him
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Speaker 1: out of a future generation of a slave, which if
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Speaker 1: it's a young boy is a very valuable thing to
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Speaker 1: his calculations, um, is a, is a God thing. And
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Speaker 1: it did not happen for many, many years that I
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Speaker 1: was involved with CSI. It has begun happening over the
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Speaker 1: last two to three years and we couldn't be more
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Speaker 1: excited about it because it saves every one of those kids, uh,
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Speaker 1: from that horrific future themselves.
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Speaker 9: 888-342-1010.
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Speaker 1: 888-342-1010. If you want to know more, go to thatkevinshow.com.
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Speaker 1: Click the CSI banner at the top of the page.
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Speaker 1: You can read further when you click through there. There's
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Speaker 1: lots of information about what the program consists of. Just
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Speaker 1: check it out and then be as generous as you can.
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Speaker 2: 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
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Speaker 1: Or go to thatkevinshow.com. Click the CSI banner.
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