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Crown Dependencies—Invisible And Ignored- The Islanders Suffering In Silence With Vaccine Injuries · UK Column Radio

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Hello, and welcome to another UK Column interview. My name is Debbie Evans
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from the UK Column and today I am joined by a very special guest.
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But before I introduce her, I just want to make a couple of things
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playing for people that are watching. In the United Kingdom where we're based,
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where we live is an island nation and it's surrounded by smaller islands just off
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our shores. However, there are some islands who, despite being part of
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the British Isles, are not actually part of the United Kingdom. The Channel
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Islands, Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man are all Crown dependencies.
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Now this means that their self governing possessions of the Crown, and it means
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that life for islanders is very very different. Perhaps many of you watching more
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mature may remember Burgerak the TV series The Channel Islands Super Sleuth Detective. Maybe
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when we think of the Islands, we think of tax havens, the very
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rich wealthy, But life isn't like that. And I think that the answers
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and the story and experiences you're going to hear today is going to surprise you.
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So today I am absolutely delighted to be joined by Danny Hervey. She
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heads VIB Jersey. So that's VIIb js Y. Now this is the vaccine
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injured group in the Channel Islands, and we're going to find out how life
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is different. Who governs the Channel Islands? What help are they receiving the
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vaccine injured because it seems that all is not quite as we would expect.
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So without further ado, Danny, welcome to UK Colin. Thank you so
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much for joining us. Oh hi, Debbie, thank you very much.
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It's a pleasure to be here with you today. Thank you. Now,
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Danny, your group has been invisible and ignored for what seems forever. I
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mean, we're nearly four years through this plandemic and people are only just hearing
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about your group. Tell us how you became involved in the vaccine Injured and
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bereaved group. I became involved after having sadly lost my dad suddenly. He
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was otherwise very fit and healthy, sixty five year old man who died suddenly
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after his second COVID vaccine is the vire vaccine in fact, on the twenty
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seventh of July twenty twenty one, and that'd be actually in my brain for
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ever, I think, so up until that point, I had my own
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views on what was going on in the world, but yeah, everything changed
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very rapidly on that fateful day. Sadly, I can't even imagine what you
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went and are still going through because so many things are unresolved for many of
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the facts, all of the vaccine injured and the bereaved. But before we
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talk about the vaccine injured and the bereaved in depth, and that's why you're
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here, Danny, and that's what we're going to do. There are going
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to be many people watching today's interview that aren't aware of what life is like
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in the Channel Islands. Maybe they've never never been, they might not even
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have heard of the Channel Islands. And I just want you to tell us
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what life is like for an islander because it's very different, isn't it from
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well, certainly from what I thought. So go ahead and tell us a
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little bit about life in the Channel Islands. Yes, say, it is
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very different. I'm originally actually from London, but I've been in Jersey for
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about twenty two years now, so I've kind of got a good idea about
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both places. So Jersey's actually geographically located very close to France, so I
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think we're about fourteen miles from France, about eighty five miles from the coast
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of England. Yeah, it's a lovely place. It's a very beautiful place,
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but there's a big disparity between those who have and those who have not,
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sadly, so there's a good contingent of very wealthy people who come to
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the island for advantageous tax positioning, if you like, and there's the people
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who service that industry. One of the main industries is actually the finance industry,
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as well as tourism and agriculture. But all around, I mean,
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it's a beautiful place, as I say, but it's very expensive. We
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all already were running at a very high cost of living to live in the
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Islands. I think the last four years of really exacerbated the issue of people
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having a lot less than they ever have, and so yeah, I think
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there's definitely a perspective that people have of the Channel Islands being a very wealthy
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place and everybody is quite affluent, but it certainly isn't the case, and
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there is definitely a large contingent that don't have very much at all. So
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there's quite a large disparity, i'd say, and given that we're an Ireland
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obviously all of our produce is well, the majority of our produce is actually
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brought into the island, so we rely heavily on our roots on the ferries
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for example, So we got a lot of our produce which is brought in
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from England, with a small amount amount coming from France, so we rely
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heavily on that. And then when we have bad weather, which is quite
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frequently these days, we had a big storm that came through. It was
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a hurricane actually, and we were cut off for quite some time, so
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the shelves were empty very quickly. So yeah, we're very reliant on our
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UK counterpart. I was very surprised when you said, actually there are only
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three main shops. I think you said there was the co Op, Waitrose
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and Marks and Spencers, and your resources are very very limited. And I
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mean we talked about comparisons, just slight comparisons in cost of living, and
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I was speaking to a colleague in Scotland who currently is saying that I think
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Diesel is about one fifty elita down here in Cornwall it's one sixty elita,
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and you told me that in the Channel Islands it's one seventy five Elita.
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But then of course you don't pay road tax, so there's that to take
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into consideration, which leads me on really to say, you know, you're
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governed completely differently, aren't you. You don't have you're not under our Prime
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Minister Rishie Sunac. You have your own government. So how does that work?
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Tell us a little bit about how you're governed. Yeah, that's right,
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Debbie. As you mentioned, we are actually we're referred to as the
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balu Wicker Jersey, which is a self governing possession of the crown. It
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is referred to so although we're part of the British Isles, we aren't part
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of the UK. We have our own laws, we have our own financial
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rules, we've got our own regulation, and we've got our own parliament which
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is known as the State's Assembly. So although we are quite separate, our
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laws have to receive royal assents, so that goes through the Privy Council.
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So although we do make our own laws, we still tie into the UK.
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Although we don't have representation in the houses of Parliament as such, we
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do create our own laws, but they do have to receive royal assent as
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I say, so it is different we do have our own elections which run
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every four years like the UK do, but we aren't allowed to vote in
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any kind of UK elections, or we didn't get a choice around Brexit.
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Although we're heavily impacted by Brexit, we do sort of stand alone in many
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of in an kind of parliamentary sense. So yeah, we are quite separate
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in that respect. You've even got you know, you've got your own passport,
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haven't you. And you have a special stamp in your passport too,
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So I mean that's very different where some people can work in Europe and some
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people can't. And I know that in many areas. It's the same in
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Cornwall in that the young people that are born here can't afford to stay because
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the property is so expensive. And I know you were telling me about the
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Jersey Beans. Tell us briefly about a Jersey Bean. So that's the term
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that's been coined over the years, so a Jersey Bean is referred to like
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a local person. But specifically when we talk about the passports, you're right,
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we do have a different type of passport. And if you've got so,
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it's a certain generation may have had two I think grandparents on both sides
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going back historically that were born in the island, then you would have a
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restriction that's placed on your passport, which means that you can't work in the
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European Union, so you're confined to working in Jersey, the Channel Islands and
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the UK essentially. So that doesn't sort of account for a large amount of
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the population, I'd say now because we've got more people coming in from elsewhere.
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But that was a restriction and is still a restriction. I mean,
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my own father in law has that in his passport. I've been thinking since
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we've been speaking, and you have been telling me that you know, the
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islands are so dependent on boats bringing in produce and once things are gone,
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they really are gone. But I can't imagine what it must have been like
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for Islanders during lockdown, you know, when the plandemic was first declared and
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you were all locked down. And then tell me a little bit. Because
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you have a health minister's that's appointed, you don't have the same sort of
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cabinet and government as layout as we do. So tell us how what happened.
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Were you mandated to have vaccines, were you following the same guidance that
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we had to follow, in the UK or was it slightly different. Yeah,
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so we do have a health ministering. I think much like the UK.
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Our government has rotated very heavily these past four years. There's been a
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lot of shifting around. But during the COVID pandemic period there were rules that
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were kind of implied upon us or imposed upon us. We locksteps with the
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UK essentially, So everything the government in the UK did, we did.
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We followed JBCI guidelines and MHR so everything they did, they just outsourced all
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of the local thinking, which was a real shame actually, because we had
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an opportunity to do things differently. We didn't have to follow suit, and
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we could have done differently. In terms of vaccines, they weren't mandated,
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they were heavily encouraged. There was a paper that was actually written on how
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to convince an island population to get vaccinated. They had a very significant uptake
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in vaccinations based on the measures that they adopted during that period. So yeah,
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we very much copied what the UK did. It wasn't mandated, but
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there was a heavy influence, especially in the medical sectors, for people to
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get vaccinated. Yeah, it's interesting to know that you were forced to copy
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what the UK did. So you were forced to follow the Yellow Card scheme,
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you were forced to listen to the MHRA, you were forced to listen
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to the JCVII. And yet what I think is absolutely shocking and I think
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will surprise a lot of people watching, is that you're not entitled to claim
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for the vaccine damage payment, which, to be honest, is just a
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poultry one hundred and twenty thousand pounds one off payment and many people in the
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UK you haven't been able to access that. However, you're not even entitled
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to even access You have no help at all, do you when it comes
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to the vaccine damage payment? So all is not quite equal? Yeah?
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Absolutely, And that's one of the shocking things really that even though we actually
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sign a contract with the UK government, the UK governments applied everything we decided
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to lockstep with the UK on all decisions that were made following MHRA and JBCI,
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we weren't able to tie into the vaccine Damage Payment scheme, which,
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as you rightly say, isn't really fit for purpose and needs a complete overhaul.
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Now I've been trying to lobby government and we'll probably come onto this,
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But to say that this is an opportunity for us to do things our own
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way and look at how we can help the local community that's been met with
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a lot of silence and there's been a lack of involvement in me trying to
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help shape that if you like. The intention is I believe to eventually get
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us access to the vaccine damage payment scheme of the UK, which that's the
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intention. I've got my own reservations about that and we'll see what happens,
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but at the moment we don't have access to anything. That is exactly one
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of the reasons why you're here today to inform people and to put out the
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message and to put pressure on those that need to know. So when we
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look at the group that you're heading, and you're running Danny at the moment,
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what kind of figures do you have in your group? How many people
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have got injuries and how many people sadly do you think you may have lost
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as a result of the vaccine. It's really hard to say because we've got
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a combination of different things going on in our group. So we have the
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people who've directly been impacted, who I support on a regular basis and have
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contact with directly. And then you've got the people who are supporting family members.
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So you've got people who've been quite badly injured who I'm not actually accessing
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directly, but I'm helping to support their family members. And then there are
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those who've passed away. And I've had a few, a good few people
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contact me and say that they believe that the sudden passing of their own loved
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one as a result. So it's hard to put actual numbers down. I'd
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say in our support group, we've got around two hundred on the Facebook support
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group, but there's a combination. There's people who are aware of people who
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love ones, as I say, but I'd say our numbers are probably in
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the hundreds. In reality. That's quite shocking. And I know that you're
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very keen to talk about this because whilst the data in the UK isn't great
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and we've got much to say about the MHRA data, how would you say,
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I mean, I know it's very difficult for you to be able to
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say, but just as a rough guestimate, would you say that your data
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compares to what you're seeing or what you've seen in the UK. How does
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it compare well? In short, it doesn't Our data is really lacking transparency
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around the numbers, just isn't there. We produce a report annually that sets
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out the numbers of deaths that have occurred, the numbers of births that have
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occurred. It's like a statistical report that is produced by the registrar. Now,
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the report for last year should have been out at the end of April
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apparently, and it's still not out now, and that's some lag in time.
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How does it take five months to produce a report. We should have
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much more transparency. So if I wanted to go and find out about how
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many deaths occurred in the last quarter, I'd have to go and make an
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appointment and go and physically look at a register. I mean, for an
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island like Jersey, where we have amazing data around the financial sector, which
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you know they are trying to be very much at the forefront of that area,
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it doesn't follow where the medical sector is concerned. And it feels as
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if that suits a purpose. There's no appetite to really make anything more transparent
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than it is, because why should they exactly, why should they give us
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a little bit more depth about the population there? Because you mentioned two hundred
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there, So are we looking at the popular both islands combined, and what
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proportion do you think of vaccine injuries and bereavements that you've seen compared to the
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population. So we've got a population of about one hundred and three thousand.
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I think I'm not sure about the numbers for Guernsey. It's escaped me now,
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but the last count we had was around eight hundred and forty that were
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recorded as injured. Now, not all of those people have connected with me
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because it's very difficult to get information out. That's the other thing that we
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really struggle with, which is why it's been fantastic to be able to talk
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with yourself, Debbie, because our media is very much like it is in
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a lot of places. It's shut down and they're aware of me, but
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they aren't. They've never never printed anything about the vaccine support group, so
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I am not able to connect with the wider community. So it's really hard
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to talk about actual numbers that are injured. That's just the numbers that I've
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been able to connect with when I'm talking around the two hundred mark. But
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I would say that there are a significant amount of people injured, a lot
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of them haven't maybe connected the dots yet, and a lot of them haven't
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certainly connected with me. It's a very difficult one because of the way that
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data and information is being still controlled. So it's hard to say. Is
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anybody from your government listening to you, Danny, because we hear you,
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and as our regular audience will know, Danny appeared live on our news because
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we'll come on to talk about the Zoom conference call that you organized in a
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minute. But is anybody from your government hearing what you're saying, because we
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certainly are. They have received my various requests to meet with them because I've
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expressed an interest in being able to talk to them about how they can support
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I mean, when we talk about support that it's not just a financial element
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for the vaccine injured. There's the real requirement of having medical support, good
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diagnosis and treatments that isn't happening in Jersey at all, and that's something we
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need to remove those barriers. So that's something I'm very keen to talk to
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them about, and also the mental health support that they need. So these
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are the things that I've been lobbying to sit down and talk to them about
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until now. I've not been offered the opportunity to come in. There is
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looking like maybe it may happen, but again, I won't hold my breath.
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I've been asking for these things to happen for a very long time,
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and just speak into the community. A lot of them feel very despondent at
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this point. They've lost all hope and it's a really it's like an uphill
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battle basically trying to keep people focused on you know, where we're trying to
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go, which is to get the things that they need. When people very
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poorly, it's very hard. It's very hard to motivate them and you know,
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keep them arale. And it's been a long time. Yeah, and
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you know, Danny, we're hearing this also from Charlotte at uk CV Family
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Ruth, who heads up the Scottish Vaccine Injured Group. It has been a
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long time and it's continuing. You know, on before I talk to you
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about the isolation, because there is a huge isolation component in this. Not
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only are you, those of you that are well and healthy isolated on an
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island, ignored and invisible, but those with vaccine injuries are in an even
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more dire position. And I wanted to ask you about what facilities do you
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have on the island. Do you have a district hospital, what's the capacity
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for that or do you normally if you were having a procedure, for example,
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would you have that on the island or would you be sent for a
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referral into the UK on the mainland. What's your health system structured like over
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there. So we do have a main hospital where we can have various operations
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can be per formed locally, so there is the facility for that. Unfortunately,
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our hospital is very substandard and there's been a requirement to basically rebuild a
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brand new hospital that in itself is a huge debarcur where they've spent huge amounts
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of money. I think the last count was around two one hundred million possibly,
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But we don't have a hospital. We don't. We've basically paid a
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lot of consultant to come and look at what they could do for us,
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and that's probably been putting it very simplistically, but I think it's one of
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the bonus of contention in the island as a whole. Our health service is
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sorely lacking for an island the size that we've got, and yeah, it's
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an absolute night mess. To be honest, the health service, so a
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lot of people do tend to go off Ireland to find specialist treatments. Again,
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there's add an expense because it's not cheap to get off the island,
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and then you have to obviously pay for private treatment. So we do have
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a health service in short, but it's not a very good one. I
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think that is a very very interesting point because what we're hearing from other groups,
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We're hearing so many injured people that are feeling pretty sick and they're being
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made to travel huge, huge distances in order to seek treatment. So for
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you, your only way off the island presumably is by air boat. How
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long would a trip take, for example, if you were going by boat,
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because I'm presuming boat is probably cheaper. So for somebody that's struggling already
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with the cost of living, these trips are going to be pretty crippling,
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I would imagine. So, I mean, how I'm presuming too, they
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would have to go to the mainland, probably find somewhere to stay overnight because
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it would be too much probably to do in a day. How much are
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we looking at here, Danny, Yeah, it's not cheap. I mean,
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you're probably looking at a couple of hundred pounds to get off the island.
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If you're doing it, depends you can get it cheaper depending on the
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time you go, et cetera. Yeah, I think I'm due to be
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going away shortly, and I think we paid a couple of hundred quid to
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leave the island, So it's and it's a short flight. It's a forty
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minute flight. The boat's not much cheaper. In reality, if you're taking
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a car, you're probably looking about three hundred and fifty pounds actually with a
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car, so it's probably a bit more expensive. And then, as you
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say, you need to get a carmnidation, So it really is another layer
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of expense that you when you're already suffering and a lot of people aren't able
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to work, it becomes really difficult, really difficult to manage. Yeah,
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I completely understand. Have you got anybody on the island that's supporting you and
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is saying, right, okay, we need to do something. Are there
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any gps? Aren't there any health practitioners? Are there any nurses? Do
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you have anybody that's speaking up for you at all? There is a group
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obviously, we've talked on the UK and Channel Islands Alliance webinar that we were
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able to post there is a group of individuals within that alliance, if you
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like, which have been very supportive and yeah, that's wonderful. That really
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needs to grow and that's one of the things that I really wanted to express
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on this always actually just to try to empower other people to stand up and
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realize that there are good people who are using their voices and urging other local
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Islanders who work in the healthcare profession to really try to dig down deep and
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find the courage to do the same, really because the community needs them.
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We're so grateful that we've got people like you, Danny, and Charlotte's and
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Ruth and all the others that head these groups, because without the groups,
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I think many people I don't know quite what they would do. Can you
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give us any idea of some of the experiences that people are telling you about,
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perhaps some of the vaccine injured, what's happening to them, what kind
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of injuries? I know there's probably a whole load, but what are you
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seeing as the biggest problem, the biggest hurdle. Because I know that you're
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telling me that a lot are leaving the islands and they're actually moving away,
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and are they being driven away because there is nothing left for them on the
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islands anymore. I think it's a combination of reasons, but essentially it's difficult.
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There's a combination of different things we're seeing as well. So there are
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a lot of heart issues tends to be in a certain demographic, younger males.
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We had one Chap who was a professional football player for the island.
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He ended up in the hospital the same day he received his vaccine. Yeah,
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without going to too much detail about his own story, he wasn't believed.
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They didn't link it. They said it's nothing to do with the vaccine.
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They would not entertain it. He was presenting as if he was having
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a heart attack. This went on. He visited the hospital a number of
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occasions. They would not given him an MRI. They just said he was
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nervous. It was the typical gas lighting scenario. In the end, he
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had to leave because he was not getting treatment. They would not see him
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here. He had to pay for a private MRI off Ireland and it came
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back that he had micoditis and the heart inflammation. So that's just one example.
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We've had other people who again shortly after vaccination, have ended up in
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a and E. One particular person almost died. They had to put her
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into an induced coma. She had severe Gillian Bray syndrome. They had to
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blush her blood out of the body through a machine. I think they did
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nine washes through the machine. In the end, she survived, but she
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was in a coma for some time. They actually admitted that it was vaccine
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related on that particular occasion, and she yeah, she was basically told don't
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have any more vaccines, especially not the COVID vaccine, and then she proceeded
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to watch the same individual tell everybody on television that the vaccine safe and effective.
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I think later that night on a TV television advert that they were urging
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people to go and get vaccinated. So there are repeating stories like this,
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a lot of gas lighting. People will not admit that it's vaccine related.
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The local cardiologists will not admit that anything you've see in is vaccine related,
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which is very, very frustrating, let's say, and I feel very frustrated
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for the individuals who are subjected to that treatment. Listening to your stories,
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it's becoming so obvious that so many people have been gas lit by doctors and
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professionals who say it's anxiety, it's in your head, you're imagining it because
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it can't possibly be anything to do and with the vaccine. And I look
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at the mental health figures at the moment, which are just shooting through the
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roof. Most are being blamed on lockdown and the effects of the psychological damage
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of losing jobs and etc. During lockdown. Nobody actually wants to look at
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vaccine injuries because I see that many of the vaccine injured have've just been lumped
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into this mental health data basket in order not to focus in on the real
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issues. I mean, it's it's just so, it's wicked. It is
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the only word that I can use to describe it, to be honest.
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But thankfully you've got this group going and you now being heard. But you've
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had to go to pretty extreme lengths, haven't you, Because you've literally been
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stranded out there screaming and nobody seems to have heard you. So what kind
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of lengths? Tell us about zoom conference call that you organized, that you
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came on and talk to us about, and it was brilliant, it was
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so successful, But tell us the length that you've had to go to to
28:52
get your voices heard. Yeah, I mean as you say, because it's
28:57
been quite easy. There's been no changing and we are completely ignored and overlooked.
29:03
We did go to the extent of organizing an event whereby we bought in
29:07
a fantastic panel of speakers. We had Senator Ron Johnson chairing proceedings. It
29:14
was fantastic and everybody got an opportunity to speak on their own personal experiences and
29:18
talk on what they've seen firsthand, giving evidence in terms of statistics. So
29:23
it was the opportunity for our local government ministers to join in the conversation here
29:29
firsthand what these professionals were seeing who were not conflicted. They weren't getting paid
29:34
to talk about any of these things. They were put in their head above
29:37
the parapet which is what a lot of health professionals have chosen not to do.
29:41
So I'm very proud to have been involved in organizing that and my hope
29:45
is that that will have a ripple effect and it will help those conversations take
29:51
place. I'm sure that they will because I see that you're one very determined
30:07
lady, And for anybody that's watching from the channel, Islands. And that's
30:14
saying, actually, I need to contact this lady because I think I could
30:18
be vaccine injured or I know somebody that's vaccine injured that needs some support.
30:23
Where do they find you, Danny? How do they get hold of you?
30:27
Yeah, so if anybody wants to reach me, they can drop me
30:30
an email if it's easiest. It's vib jsy at proton dot me. And
30:37
I'm also on the same vib jsy which is on Facebook and Instagram, So
30:42
any of those um contactable on And yeah, we're here to help. We're
30:48
here to provide support and say space for people to share their experiences and give
30:52
them a little bit of hope. Really, and that's what you know,
30:56
that's what my intention is really to let these beople know that you know,
31:00
they're not alone, they're certainly not alone, and yeah, just give them
31:04
that safe space. Well, I'm absolutely sure that you can give them far
31:11
more than a your government and b our government. I think I know the
31:18
answer to this question, Danny, but I'm going to ask it anyway in
31:22
the hope that you might say something and surprise me. But have any of
31:26
those that you know who have vaccine injured had any kind of response, reply
31:33
or help from the MHRA. No, although I did receive a reply from
31:38
the MHRA for my dad. So when my dad passed away suddenly, I
31:42
registered his death. As I've urged everybody to do any reaction, I always
31:48
say log it. So I did receive a response. They just wanted more
31:55
information, which I provided. I've asked other people who've done the same,
31:59
they have received anything. I had a horrible feeling you were going to say
32:02
that. To be honest, I'm not surprised by that, because it would
32:07
appear that nobody is having any satisfactory responses from the MHRA. So that's that
32:15
done. But when people contact you, Danny, do you have groups as
32:20
well that you know you can meet physically or is it very much over a
32:25
remote Do people have to come and visit you or how does it work over
32:30
there? So we do have face to face meetings. We do little gatherings.
32:35
We try to bring somebody else, somebody in to talk about alterns of
32:37
health. I'm not a health specialist by any means, but I've certainly looked
32:43
at different modality, so I try to organize somebody to come and talk.
32:47
We also do zoom so it's not always easy to try to get everybody together
32:52
at the same time, so there's zoom calls that take place, and we
32:54
just try to give an update in terms of what's happening, not only in
32:59
our i l but to give people hope about what's going on in other locations.
33:04
And yeah, so there's various things that we can do in terms of
33:08
yeah, support in the community. The Channel Islands, you're looking after.
33:15
But when it comes to the Isle of Man, are you in contact with
33:20
anybody at the Isle of Man? Do they have their own group or are
33:23
you are you looking after them as well? No, they do have their
33:28
own group. I've actually connected with the lady who runs that support group,
33:31
so they do have their own support network there as well, which is fantastic.
33:36
So a lot of the people in all the various locations are all connected
33:39
up, which is wonderful. So we as sort of the people who are
33:44
running the support groups have some support amongst us, amongst each other, because
33:47
that's one of the things that people ask, well, who's supporting you?
33:51
And it's lovely that I'm able to connect in with other locations and hear firsthand
33:55
what's going on around the world. Well, I'm really glad that you're all
33:59
linked up. And as you know at UK column, we've always said to
34:05
all of you, nothing about you without you, and that we will be
34:09
here to sound the alarm and also to keep the experiences and the stories of
34:16
the vaccine injured still at the top of our news because as the world is
34:22
changing virtually by the day, we can see that the vaccine injured on still
34:29
not getting any help whatsoever, and so we are determined to bring to justice
34:35
the people that are responsible for this because at the end of the day,
34:38
all of you, all of you that took the injection, and all of
34:43
you that are suffering from seeing someone died, what we have to remember is
34:47
that they were all doing what the government told them to do. You know,
34:52
you were just following what the government told you to do. So Danny,
34:57
what next? I mean, we're having this chat today, but what
35:01
for the future for the vaccine injured group in the Channel Islands. What have
35:05
you got planned? So we are obviously continuing to try to raise the awareness
35:09
through having discussions like this, which is fantastic. We also are looking at
35:15
doing a questions and answer session on a follow up to the call that happened
35:21
the webinar last week, so there'll be a similar type of panel, but
35:24
the intention is really to have the governments of Jersey and Guernsey participate in that.
35:30
I think there's been some interest from the Government of Guernsey in particular,
35:34
a few deputies have said that they would like to attend, so that's something
35:37
that I'm helping to organize at the moment. And then later on in the
35:40
year we're having an event to help to raise some funds because obviously there aren't
35:45
any funds available here, so we're doing an event later in the year.
35:49
So there'll be more information about that coming out soon. So I know that
35:52
data and transparency is a big issue for you because there just isn't any data
35:59
and there isn't a transparency. I know that our viewers and our listeners will
36:04
want regular updates and I'm going to be keeping in touch with you to see
36:09
how it's going and how the vaccine injured are coping over there, because I
36:15
think it is quite troubling. We're all part of the same country, I
36:20
thought, but you're part of the same country for some of the rules,
36:25
but you're not part of the UK for other rules and that means that there's
36:32
no equity or access to care, and that means that you're all at a
36:37
disadvantage. And I hope very much that people watching this will share this video
36:45
and spread the word. And if you like what the UK Column is doing,
36:50
and if you value interviews such as the one that we've heard today from
36:54
Danny, which is heartfelt, really heartfelt, please think of joining us as
37:00
a member joined the UK Column family, because without you, we can't do
37:07
what we're doing. And on that note, Danny, I'm just so grateful
37:13
to you for organizing all that you are doing. I mean, your zoom
37:16
conference call with your speakers was phenomenal and absolutely got the word out. Certainly
37:22
you're on the map, we're hearing you. But I know that you've got
37:29
a very special message in honor of your dad who you lost. But you've
37:35
got a very special message in your last word. So I'm not going to
37:38
hang about anymore. I'm just going to say thank you and thank you to
37:44
everybody in the Channel Islands and please send our love to everyone. And it's
37:50
over to you, Danny for the last word. Thank you, and thank
37:53
you Debbie and the UK Column for giving us a voice as we haven't had
37:59
one until now, so we genuinely appreciate you doing that for us. And
38:04
in terms of my last word, it's really directed to the government of Jersey.
38:07
Do the right thing by the people you were elected to serve, the
38:12
ones that you were happy to convince to get vaccinated. Where are you now?
38:16
Enough of the political puppetry. It's time to do the right thing,
38:20
support the injured, and stop kicking the can down the road. It's as
38:23
simple as that. It's time