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EP 8 | Stranger Than Fiction · Tales from Incredible Tales

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  Speaker 1: On camera. I was stunned. I was like trying in
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  Speaker 1: my head. I was like, is it the wind? Is
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  Speaker 1: it something? It's like you go through the rational route
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  Speaker 1: first and just as I was like lost for answer.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought myself, ok, I'm going to go with
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  Speaker 1: the wind. Then doors start to open again.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, my name is Eugene. My
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  Speaker 2: name is Raihan.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Wayne. My name is Kyle and this
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  Speaker 2: is Tales From Incredible Tales together with some very special guests.
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  Speaker 2: We're taking a look back at Incredible Tales, a horror
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  Speaker 2: anthology that add on channel five from 2004 to 2017.
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  Speaker 2: We will also be asking our guests to share their
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  Speaker 2: very own scary stories. Our guest for this episode is
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  Speaker 2: Eugene Tay from Supernatural Confessions. Hello, Eugene.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hey,
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  Speaker 2: good to have
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  Speaker 1: you here. Nice to be here. You know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: so nostalgic. Saw
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  Speaker 2: you looking around the set and everything. What's your EMF
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  Speaker 1: we
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  Speaker 2: now he, now he is on a different level. It's good.
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  Speaker 2: So Eugene Tay is the man behind the widely popular
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  Speaker 2: youtube channel, Supernatural Confessions.
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  Speaker 2: The channel is a collection of stories recounted by people
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  Speaker 2: with real paranormal experiences in every episode or tas from
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  Speaker 2: incredible tales. We revisit different theme and how it ties
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  Speaker 2: to the classic Incredible Tears episodes. Now, for this episode,
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  Speaker 2: we're looking at something a little bit different, real life
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  Speaker 2: paranormal investigating in the Ford Factory from season one. So
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  Speaker 2: the All Felt Factory sits along upper Bukit Timah Road.
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  Speaker 2: Many pass by without a glance at this one's dilapidated building.
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  Speaker 2: In the first season's finale, the Incredible Tales crew revealed
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  Speaker 2: some of its hidden secrets. So this is the season
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  Speaker 2: finale of season one. So let's take a look.
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  Speaker 1: Wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is actually one of my favorite episodes from Incredible Tales. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I noticed when you know, he mentioned Old Ford Factory,
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  Speaker 2: I saw like, like you were like weird gleam in
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  Speaker 2: your eye.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. I think when you guys invited me down
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  Speaker 1: for this particular show and to show me this segment,
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  Speaker 1: you probably don't know my history with SP I Ford Factory, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of layers of
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  Speaker 1: stories to share with you just based on one episode alone. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: what is it about the place itself that gives you
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  Speaker 2: that the glimpse in your eyes for
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  Speaker 1: Factory when we grew up in the late nineties, early
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  Speaker 1: 2000 was one of the main place to visit if
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  Speaker 1: you're a
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  Speaker 1: a thrill seeker, right? Hospital being one of them is
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  Speaker 1: a red house. The White House and on the west
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  Speaker 1: side is the Ford Factory. And that's where the Japanese,
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  Speaker 1: you know, had that signing with the British. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of history behind it and because it's abandoned
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  Speaker 1: and it was actually a,
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  Speaker 1: a heritage site. So all the more is a lot
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  Speaker 1: of debt to that place that we wanted to win. Investigate.
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  Speaker 1: And again, back then why I say we're not paranormal
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  Speaker 1: investigators because we didn't know what we were investigating. We
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  Speaker 1: just went in, we scream like a girl and we
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  Speaker 1: ran out, I watched this and you know, the guy
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  Speaker 1: screaming and the girl running. I remember, I sit here
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  Speaker 1: and I remember very clearly how I felt then and
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  Speaker 1: watching it again, how I'm feeling now, like who apart?
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  Speaker 1: Ah, I guess the way to explain it is be
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  Speaker 1: like if you are not into filmmaking and you watch
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  Speaker 1: a movie, you watch it for the excitement, the horror.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're a filmmaker, you be like the lighting
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  Speaker 1: is here. I think the shadow is that problem. You
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  Speaker 1: look at all the detail of the film making and
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  Speaker 1: enjoying it for the story itself. So that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: where I am now with that. I'd be like, ok,
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  Speaker 1: that is an out flying by. Did anyone not notice that?
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  Speaker 1: Or could it be a dust? Are we debunking this?
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  Speaker 1: And so the guy is laughing a lot because he
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  Speaker 1: is scared. So I'm reading all these things and looking
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  Speaker 1: back and watching this again, comparing it from now and
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  Speaker 1: then
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  Speaker 1: there is so much more that I can do with
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  Speaker 1: this one scene compared to the guy who says, are
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  Speaker 1: you crazy haunted place? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But like, but like when, when you explore that place, right?
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  Speaker 2: It was abandoned. So I believe now is like, conserve
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  Speaker 2: and second museum, right? So why do you think that
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  Speaker 2: is so haunted? Nobody died, right? Like it's just a
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  Speaker 2: signing place, right? Why is it so haunted?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. So that's the,
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  Speaker 2: that's the first part.
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  Speaker 1: So when I watched it before and when I went
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  Speaker 1: down to Ford Factory, abandon the minute, the mere mention
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  Speaker 1: of the word Japanese brings to mind viciousness, death and murder.
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  Speaker 1: So it is with this connotation that you think that
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  Speaker 1: place is haunted, but you're absolutely right. Where's the death?
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  Speaker 1: Where's a tragedy? Nothing. So what brings horror to the place?
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  Speaker 1: And as investigators now you're going to ask these kind
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  Speaker 1: of questions, what happened here and I cannot answer that.
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  Speaker 1: I would not be able to answer why there's one thing.
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  Speaker 1: And when we watched this episode, one episode 13, season one,
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  Speaker 1: the hypothesis was that the Japanese would come back. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think the Japanese wants to come back here. There
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  Speaker 1: is nothing in it for them to come back. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't lose, they won.
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  Speaker 1: Right? It's a happy place for them. But if anything
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  Speaker 1: at all that would come in is because the place
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  Speaker 1: is empty, is deserted, right? Is a lot of in energy.
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  Speaker 1: So all these homeless spirits would then come in and
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  Speaker 1: take residence here. So they're not going to haunt the place,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to try to chase you out. So if
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  Speaker 1: you go in and
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  Speaker 1: to start a step on their peace, they can try
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  Speaker 1: to scare you to leave the place. So not the
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  Speaker 1: Japanese I think could be any random spirits. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna tap on that. My belief as well back in
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  Speaker 2: my culture is that if a place is abandoned, it
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  Speaker 2: can be anyone's else home, but it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: anyone else as in human form spirits. So the longer
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  Speaker 2: it is, it could be somebody, some spirit who just
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  Speaker 2: wants to rest. But we have intruded their spirits back
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  Speaker 2: when I was in ns whenever we have Phil camp, right?
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  Speaker 2: The mys from the specific coy go down to this
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  Speaker 2: that play together with a priest to, you know, do
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  Speaker 2: some rituals and they say I just came back with
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  Speaker 2: so and so I'm like, oh must do that at
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  Speaker 2: that moment in time because it's not written, but it's
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  Speaker 2: done
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  Speaker 1: the camp two or camp three at the Rocky Hills area.
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  Speaker 1: That's my place. That's your place to be.
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  Speaker 1: It was an abandoned camp for some time. And I
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  Speaker 1: was the batch of army soldiers moving from Pasir Laba
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  Speaker 1: to camp two. So when we moved to camp 21
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  Speaker 1: of the things we did was, and I volunteered, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know I was volunteering for. They never tell you
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  Speaker 1: they say any volunteers you just put up your hand.
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  Speaker 1: So I went down and I was with the Taoist
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  Speaker 1: priest holding his sack of rice as he went around
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  Speaker 1: blessing the place. And there were five of them. Not
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  Speaker 1: just him. Different, different religious heads. Yeah. So that one,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you for a fact it happened.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently there's a shrine in Pulau. Yes, there's a shrine
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  Speaker 2: that they pray to. But it's usually not the, the
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  Speaker 2: high ups, not the officers. It's usually the injects or
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  Speaker 2: the master sergeants that somehow they will be tasked to
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  Speaker 2: do it because I have a friend who works with
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  Speaker 2: a temple. Then they do mediumship. So they were invited
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  Speaker 2: to bless a certain camp
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  Speaker 2: because the area way too much. And even then the guy,
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  Speaker 2: like who got like, basically he invited the de to
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  Speaker 2: come to say there's too much, we cannot clean it
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  Speaker 2: or you will come back because this is the space.
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  Speaker 2: But what we can do is that we can seal
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  Speaker 2: it so that not too much. So, and then he
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  Speaker 2: actually took photos of the place for me. I said,
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  Speaker 2: isn't that like related to a certain
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  Speaker 2: office? Yeah. Yeah. So that's what it happens. But it's
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  Speaker 2: not documented. So the deity can't clear the whole space
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  Speaker 2: because there's too many. I wonder whether that's, is that
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  Speaker 2: the case for like other famously haunted spots? Like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a very
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  Speaker 2: do elaborate.
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  Speaker 1: There are a few places in Singapore not going to
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  Speaker 1: mention their names, famous buildings, right? Some of them have
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  Speaker 1: already been torn down and some of them are still standing.
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  Speaker 1: So there have been many different masters who went down
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  Speaker 1: either voluntarily or have been invited by certain agencies to
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  Speaker 1: cleanse the place and he says cannot clean too many.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes they can even make a pact and this
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  Speaker 1: is up to the spirits to agree or disagree. And
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  Speaker 1: most of these haunted places, there's usually one hit spirit.
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  Speaker 1: Like even human human villages, you have the right spirit
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  Speaker 1: was still the same. Actually, the spirit world and human
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  Speaker 1: world are very similar. So if you treat spirits as
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  Speaker 1: if it's human
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  Speaker 1: abandon place, homeless people come on in and now you
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  Speaker 1: tended to get out, they can ask you go where
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to go. But if the medium is
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  Speaker 1: high power enough, what they can do sometimes is we
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  Speaker 1: will erect certain shrine for you somewhere under a tree
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  Speaker 1: and may you all live there and I guarantee you,
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  Speaker 1: we will keep doing offerings. So some of these places,
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  Speaker 1: if you keep an eye open, you may find a
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  Speaker 1: very large shrine hidden away from public eye. There's a
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  Speaker 1: negotiation thing where we put this for you. You don't
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  Speaker 1: disturb the living in the building.
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  Speaker 2: I have a question when you try to seal those
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  Speaker 2: spirits in, for example, it's too many right? You mentioned
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  Speaker 2: that they seal them away.
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  Speaker 2: Do they get angry because you're sealing them away? Does
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  Speaker 2: it cause any have out if they try to break
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  Speaker 2: away from the seal? And let's say, you know, offerings
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  Speaker 2: should be made. But as generation goes by people stop
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  Speaker 2: giving offerings. Have you ever encountered any of those
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  Speaker 1: stories? There is a building in Changi just like that.
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  Speaker 1: So there was a deal made for the spirits to
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  Speaker 1: not haunt the building and a shrine was erected
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  Speaker 1: and it was peaceful for six years of his operation.
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  Speaker 1: And then, you know, they, they closed the folded and
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  Speaker 1: no one took care of the shrine anymore after that.
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  Speaker 1: Now the entire building is back full of people, full
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  Speaker 1: of spirits, not people.
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  Speaker 2: I think we want to know. And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: safe to say it's the rain tree hotel goes on already. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll find out whether it's safe to say soon enough,
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  Speaker 2: it's closed down already. It's actually closed down. And I've
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  Speaker 2: been in that building before, before it became, it was
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  Speaker 2: a commando barracks. Yeah. So that, that building, yeah, quite
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  Speaker 2: happening are some of the techniques that they used back
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  Speaker 2: then by sp like the, the sensor, like the 7-Eleven sensor.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they use em f, at that point.
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  Speaker 2: They had like a cold temperature thing that they measure.
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  Speaker 2: Are they still being used by like next generation of
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  Speaker 2: investigators like such as yourself.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very good question. I got to give props
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  Speaker 1: to SB there is no class, there's no udemy back
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  Speaker 1: then for you to pick up your paranormal investigation skills.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: look towards the ogs to learn from them and I
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  Speaker 1: think SP themselves learn from people overseas, right? Everything that
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  Speaker 1: you see in this show, we have used it, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: in the show as well. They have an EMF meter,
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  Speaker 1: it's just not the EMF meter that you see. The
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  Speaker 1: commercial one that everyone is using. Now it made popular
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  Speaker 1: ghost adventurous. This is a bit more classic black box
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  Speaker 1: with a, with a gauge that doesn't light up, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make a sound. So it's bad for TV. That's why.
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  Speaker 1: But they have EMF me there. So in my early
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  Speaker 1: days again because et is a personal friend of mine,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of my gears. I sort of t loan
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  Speaker 1: from him and with the motion sense and everything. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not one person who just puts the item there
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  Speaker 1: and say, OK,
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  Speaker 1: now I'm done. I always want to find out how
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  Speaker 1: does this work? Like why would a 7-Eleven Ding Dong
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  Speaker 1: work with Ghost? There's no physical form. And he will
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  Speaker 1: explain to me
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  Speaker 1: sometimes spirit comes with a bit more manifestation or maybe
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  Speaker 1: if a cat might even come in. So you're not
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  Speaker 1: putting a ding dong to detect the spirit. We put
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  Speaker 1: a ding dong there to detect a cat coming in.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't mess up your investigation phase and then
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  Speaker 1: also motion sensor because if this candle suddenly move in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the room and we're not looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: But then when we turn around,
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  Speaker 1: I see the sleeves so that not just moving like
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  Speaker 1: that so slightly, it's just freaking me out. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: just
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  Speaker 1: so we want to be able to document as much
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  Speaker 1: of our finding as possible. So that's SPS role. So
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  Speaker 1: a lot of what we do now follows what they
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  Speaker 1: did back then except to set up a thing like
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  Speaker 1: that
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  Speaker 1: takes hours if they go down and create a very
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  Speaker 1: scientific sterile environment. First, here's the temperature, here's the pressure,
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  Speaker 1: here's this, here's that, that document it down. And then
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  Speaker 1: later on tonight, if something happens, I have a compare
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  Speaker 1: and contrast to tell you something has changed and why
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  Speaker 1: is it changing? Is it because of the temperature? It
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  Speaker 1: was because of something I can then remove all possibilities
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  Speaker 1: and whatever that remains is an un phenomenon. But today,
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  Speaker 1: we are not so much, we as an industry is
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  Speaker 1: not so much bothered with the science of it
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  Speaker 1: because audience have no patience to sit down for the
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  Speaker 1: 1st 20 minutes you set up, right? We just want
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  Speaker 1: to see the ball move, we want to see the
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  Speaker 1: chair fly. So a lot of paranormal investigations today is
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  Speaker 1: more paranormal entertainment. It's like WWE LA. You have your,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the work is real. Athleticism is real, but
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  Speaker 1: it's choreograph for entertainment. And you as audience you kind
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  Speaker 1: of know, but you still buy into it. Then there's
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  Speaker 1: also wrestling, wrestling where it is really tch skills and, mm,
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  Speaker 1: there's also a demographic of people for that. So usually
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  Speaker 1: they don't really cross over. But if you like the
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  Speaker 1: scientific stuff, you like the no BS stuff, you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to go for the paranormal entertainment route. The three
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  Speaker 1: minutes Tik Tok video where something fly
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  Speaker 1: because you're going to go, I'm going to question that.
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  Speaker 1: But the majority of the people that's enough. That's a great, that's,
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  Speaker 1: that's my Saturday fix.
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  Speaker 2: That's where paranormal investigation still becomes a mystery that makes
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  Speaker 2: people want to watch it on your male gill head.
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  Speaker 2: Are you
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  Speaker 2: in a way? It's like, I'm like, I'm like, are
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  Speaker 2: you sure you, because I mean, if I were to
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  Speaker 2: see one, probably I faint even if you faint on
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  Speaker 2: the spot. Is that real? Yeah, that's the question, right?
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  Speaker 2: I
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  Speaker 1: think anything on video is going to be up for question. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was sharing in
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  Speaker 2: another episode, right? Like how, like I find it very,
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  Speaker 2: very hard to believe in like even the technology because
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  Speaker 2: how do you even prove that certain cameras can actually
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  Speaker 2: capture G like, I mean, I'm not saying it's not
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  Speaker 2: possible but like the science doesn't, is not there to
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  Speaker 2: support it. Yeah. So you work with the SB and
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you've been in many very, very normal situations, investigations, etc.
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  Speaker 2: Have there been a situation where you come in? You
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  Speaker 2: have not set up the camera yet and things has
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  Speaker 2: really happened. Like
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  Speaker 1: hang out with the boys will tell you 99 times
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  Speaker 1: out of 100. There's nothing even in this particular episode,
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  Speaker 1: They still said it's nothing our equipment did not capture anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's only reaction from human and sp is a lot
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  Speaker 1: more stringent than
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  Speaker 1: even myself. A lot of other groups these days, they
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  Speaker 1: refuse to believe in it. Even if something is rolling
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  Speaker 1: right in front of the eyes. Like I want to
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  Speaker 1: know why this boy is rolling. There must be an
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  Speaker 1: explanation but I'm going like hunt to,
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  Speaker 1: I'm, I'm gonna go for that. Yeah. But most times
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  Speaker 1: you would in investigation you would buy right now. 7 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: to 7 a.m. 12 hour shift. Right. No perfume, no smoking, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You don't contaminate the environment with any scent. The equipment
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  Speaker 1: must be all there and then you cannot be putting
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  Speaker 1: it on full charge all the time because you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to generate em f and you always have redundancy
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  Speaker 1: because if one camera fails, is that technical or is
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  Speaker 1: that hunt to again?
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  Speaker 1: But times where after we set up everything, we waited
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  Speaker 1: for hours, we were just bored shitless. We wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: thinking about ghost anymore. And then things happen. They have
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  Speaker 1: my most recent one which came to as close as
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  Speaker 1: an immediate haunting as possible. Also, you see a lot
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  Speaker 1: of technical gadgets in what sp I did for me,
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  Speaker 1: I have moved on towards more of the spiritual side
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  Speaker 1: of things. I would burn a come in. I put
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  Speaker 1: a blessed or cursed oil to infuse the smoke with
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  Speaker 1: the scent that the spirits want. And I want to
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  Speaker 1: bring them to me.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very warm way of saying, I'm here. I
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  Speaker 1: come bearing offerings. Please show yourself right. So I did that.
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  Speaker 1: I lit it up and I turned to the camera
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  Speaker 1: which was on a tripod and I have a friend behind.
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  Speaker 1: There's only two of us.
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  Speaker 1: I walked to the camera. So this was just like,
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  Speaker 1: really just set up, put it out down there didn't
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: think anything would happen. I expected to wait for a while,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: walked to the camera, stood down, talk to the camera
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and everyone from the audience could see the door behind
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: me start to close by itself slowly.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And I was looking behind my camera and my co-host
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and he was doing this,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: uh
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: what's going on there? I turned and I saw the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: dog
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and on camera, I was stunned. I was like trying
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: in my head. I was like, is it the wind?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Is it something? It's like you go through the rational
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: route first and just as I was, like, lost for
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: answer and I thought myself, ok, I'm going to go
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: with the wind. Then doors start to open again. I like, ok.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And I look at the camera, I look back at
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the door and just to confirm it, like they want
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to tell me it's not the win my friend.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Ok. La. LA. Yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I just got a jump scare again. I was so
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: invested in the story jump scare from him going to
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: a door because your eyeline was there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Ok. Ok. Ok. As a paranormal investigator, how has things
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: changed in terms of, you know, doing the things that
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: you do right now as compared to maybe watching this episode,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I was not born with a third eye. I was
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: never sensitive. I avoided haunted places and goes as best
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: as I can. I watch a horror movie. Sure. That's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: for the fear.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But over time, I've generated a certain level of sensitivity
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: to the spirits. And I think what Kyle said off
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: camera just now is that this industry choose, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and I think I was chosen, despite not wanting to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: be in it, I was kind of forced into it
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and to face whatever I needed to face and through
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: my own personal ordeal, I came out on the other side,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: having more knowledge than the average person. And that knowledge
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: enabled me to help others who then came to me
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: because of a book I wrote about my personal experiences
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and that was how super confessions grew, giving people a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: platform to talk about it, having a support network. And,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: well, I don't do this as a service and I
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: don't charge for it. There were, there were times I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: had to go down to people's house because I was
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: called to help and part of paranormal investigation, not a
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: paranormal entertainment that you see on TV, is knowing what
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: it is that is haunting this place. What are we
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: dealing with? Because we don't know what you're dealing with.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Then you can't treat the, the, the, the, the problem.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Then that's where you take your findings, you go to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the right master
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and then you bring your findings to that master. It
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: says this is a problem I'm dealing with. Can you help?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And if you go down to any master with that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: sort of research precision, they are not going to say no.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: What is the main problem with a lot of mainstream
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: people who needed help because they are clueless and master
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: is that you go down, you chicken and duck dog.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're dealing with when you're wasting time.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And then is he going to charge you a fair
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: price for his time?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: And if he did that, you might call him a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: call job because it's a business, right? So on this side,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: then you have people who are close, don't even know
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: who to call and they end up calling people on
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Google or, or any website and then they get fleeced.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So there's this big divide between people who are in
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the scene and people not in the scene. So a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: good paranormal investigator would go down, breach this gap, find
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: out what's going on, tell the human side of things.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Don't worry, I got this because when you are frightened
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: all you want someone to tell you,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it's OK. I've got this and that's what I really
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: do when I go on people's house. So that's the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: difference between that and now for me
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and it sounds a lot an awful lot like how
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the warrants did it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: You see because in the States, right? Most of them
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: are Christians or Catholics. So to perform an exorcism, there
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: needs to be proof, they need to get permission from
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the Vatican. Yeah. So they need people like the warrants
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to prove that there is a haunting. There's a, there's
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a demon in the house.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So basically the same thing, proof that the breach law.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So they scared I get paranoia. Then they go down,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: they capture evidence, hard evidence and then they present it
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to the church or whichever spiritual medium. And then, ok,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: so you have this and it's up to you now. Yeah. OK. Eugene,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: just simple short precautions that we all should take if
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: we ever choose to step into paranormal investigation.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Ok.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Do it respectfully. There are a lot of young influencers
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: come out to challenge this period because I don't believe, right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: these things are there way longer than you have been around.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: And I always borrow this from what my grandma used
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to say. Don't believe, never mind. Just do what old
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: people tell you. You live longer. You know, I think
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of wisdom to that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and precaution wise, I will share with you the Asian
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: superstitious belief when you go home, wash your feet. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: don't know how that works, but I do that anyway.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Till today, right? Going to, before I step into my house,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I still do this till today I turn around, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: face my outside of my door. I said I revoke
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: entry to any beings out there unless you are for
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: my good,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: right? You don't even have to say in those words,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the intent is to say
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: no permission granted. You don't get to follow me and rules, right?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Or like what cause is there are rules,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: they need permission to enter. So the whole dracula me
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: about being welcome to come to the house. That's not
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: just a Eastern European belief, that's also Asian. Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And I mean, like we mentioned before, so there's a
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: house spirits, right? For each house, I think across different
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: religions and beliefs, we believe to some degree there's house spirits.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think that will protect you to a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: certain degree. That's right. But for me, what I would
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: do after I go to somewhere like there's quite right,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I will go to the ultimate safe zone, which is mama.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So you basically anything that follow you dump it off,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: but you must spend at least like 1 to 2
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: hours like dump it off.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: The two places that we go is 7-Eleven.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And you want to spend some time there for the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: energy to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: diffuse, just drop off the energy, the sense, the poor
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: poor people who work as a very like, I'm just
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: here to do a job. You keep dumping your spirits
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: on here.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Ok. So before we go into the mid question, midpoint
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: question today, right? I have a very special thing that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I would like to share with everyone because Eugene Tay,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the man himself was actually on incredible like, I mean,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: like 15 years ago, he was in one of the episodes. So,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: so I want to show Eugene this episode and I
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: say I love the dramatic look this way. I thought
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it was pretty good.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Wow. You know, I've not watched this. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: couldn't watch it fully last time. So yeah,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I like, like, you know, you still sound the same,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you look different, still an investigator. So I was cutting
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: these clips out right to use. Then I was like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, this sounds very to one of my
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: guests and I was like, oh, there I texted Eugene,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you incredible to say, yeah. Now I double check I
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: checked the credits. I was like, I was like, oh
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: my God, we need to talk about this. You put
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: this in the episode?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I like how like he's like, he's trying
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: to investigate him. And then when he the colleague was like,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: give me the sh he still walked towards it. You
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: can see like a bit of for shadowing. It's like
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: him here and now he is like, oh yeah,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: for shadowing, for sure.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: So can you share with us? Like how like
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you got a role in this episode of Incredible Tales?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember. Um In fact, I forgot about
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: this role until I think a few years ago, people
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: when this was on Netflix, then I started getting messages
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: from the community. Hey, you on incredible tears are like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I would love to be no, no, you are.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Then they show it to me. Then I recall that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I did this episode but how I got into it
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: who called me? I really have no recollection. But yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you know, looking at it now and how I would
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: step forward into a contact place.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think something has chosen me back then and let
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: me on this path. Do you
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: think that like by making a story about something that's
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: so tragic, the spirit will be angry,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: all the spirits will be angry.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I don't have it on
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a factual basis. OK. My sense
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and even what I do with supernatural confessions. I get
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a sense is that the spirits are appreciative. I do
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: sometimes I think last year I had a, I was
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: going to a meditative retreat and I was trying to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: do a lot of the connecting with the other world.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I get a sense of appreciation. It's almost like, thank
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you for telling the story. Thank you for making people
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: understand and believe in us. So I don't think I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: felt anything at all of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: an aggression or malice of feeling offended if they did.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: And I, I've been doing this for nine years, come
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to 10. I would have stopped it long ago because
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: obviously I'm not doing something right? But what I'm doing
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: with this storytelling with this,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: putting all this together, I get a general sense that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the spirits one that the divine one that or something
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: else out of our human world is guiding that path
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and says, yes, you're doing a good job. Keep up
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: at it. Yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I think we feel a similar way right? For us win.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And I there are instances where we can feel that
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: we're very strong like that, that things are there on
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: set with us can feel it, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I don't feel malice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: think that's the key point that we don't, whatever we feel,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it's not malicious. It's, I mean, I think for us also, we, we,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: we try to find clear boundaries of what we can,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: what we will and will not talk about when we
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: tell our stories as well. I think,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they give you a guide
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: book like, oh, here's what you can and super natural.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So we try to on the side of caution and
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I think, I mean, we've used this word several times
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: during the season, but I guess it's all a case
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: of respect. So we try to be as respectful as possible. Like,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: even if it's, even if the account itself has been fictionalized,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I think also it's a case of, well, you still
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: try to be as respectful as possible.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ok. So this question is for everyone who are
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: your favorite paranormal investigators? Is it Supernatural confessions or maybe
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Ryan and Shane from Ghost files?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Eugene on set today, so I'm going
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to see Supernatural.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, locally, definitely I would choose Eugene. I think
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: he has been, he's a household name. But if you
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: were to ask me if my favorite favorite is definitely
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Edward and Lauren Warren. I think they are.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I think the balance that they do is very well.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: They are not like, you know, certain shows, right? That
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: is doing it for the gram like that. Like, they
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: purposely go and agitate the spirit. No, I don't think
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: they are like that. Yeah. And then it also helps
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that they have a very lasting legacy. Yeah. I like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: how my side of it. I mean, aside from, aside
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: from supernatural, of course,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I actually do like Ryan and Jane from ghost files
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: just because I think between the, like you said, the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: paranormal investigation for entertainment and for the serious signs of it,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I am quite famously a coward. So I kind of
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: do need the entertainment element to kind of diffuse it
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Like there's a reason why a lot
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: of my favorite Incredible Tales episodes have some comedic element
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to it because I can't do straight up. Like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you know, scares all the way supernatural. I need something
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: like cut attention a little bit. So for me and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: it might not even necessarily be ghost files in particular,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: but any paranormal investigators that have that like slightly entertainment
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: factor to it while still being respectful as much as
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: they can be. But the entertainment factor kind of helps
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: me to take the
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: edge off. It takes the edge
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: off quite a bit for respectful. Definitely doesn't apply to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Sha Yeah. Well, at least one of them is respectful.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Fearful. Respect for me. I think stories are very close
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: to the heart really matters. Things are happening, especially in
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Singapore and yours has a lot of very relatable stories
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to tell. So I think that's where I get really
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: connected to your stories and hence I'll go for that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: But other than that, you know, like you mentioned, all
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: those investigators, they do explore at different areas of spaces.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I think when we are at
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that location or if we leave there, then maybe we
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: could connect with them much better. But locally because you're
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: really close to us and it's happening around us. So
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: it goes to you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Well, at least at the stable the consensus is clear.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Number one, man,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: thank you. As we all episodes, we're gonna have to
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: wrap up quite soon before we wrap up. However, we
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: end every episode of Tales of Tales from Incredible Tales
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: with something weird or maybe dark or sometimes a little
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: bit gross. It's called our morbid fact of the day.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And our morbid fact of day is always delivered by Kyle.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: So back in 2015, there was a smell based ghost
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: hunting tour in Los Angeles where participants were encouraged to
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: find infamous phantom fragrances,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: but it is more this is westernized for us, right?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: We said what smell, bro you want to play this
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. You know, the smell is quite, quite,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: quite power and like there's different, that's the rotten smell, right?
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: French Penny then got on the center just now. The
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: one that you mentioned I was
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to ask.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So I use but I add infuse Frenchy Penny blessed
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: French Penny essence into the K and that sort of
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: powers it up.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You smell that, that sounds like a perfume line and
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: nobody's going to buy
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I think there was one guy who did it the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: French one as a joke. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully as
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a joke and not a real serious business designers. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: they are like, quirky things I've seen, I've seen, like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: design with,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: they put the game inside the, they thought it was
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: pretty funny.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Ah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Frenchie Penny. Number five. Bring out in you.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Number five. Idea. We could do, we could do like
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a fashion show. That is all the spirits, right? Then
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: you then walk like slow then ka in different outfit
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: like the bicycle, the motorbike on the lake on the lake.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I just want to make it clear that this is
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: all Kyle's idea.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: No part in this. All right, a sold out event
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: guaranteed guarantee. Make sure you leave the front row empty
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: for them. Oh, yeah. You know the plastic red plastic chairs. Oh, yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of course. All right. So thank you so much Eugene
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: for the sharing. It's been great. It's been scary. It's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: been everything and informative and informative. Yes. So main point
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: here is to be respectful guys
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: and thank you to all of you out there for
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: tuning in to Tales from Incredible Tales. New episodes go
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: up on every Thursday evening on youtube and me watch
• 33:22
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• 33:25
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• 33:26
  Speaker 1: My name is Eugene. My name
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: is Wayne. My name is Kyle. My name is
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and we will see you next time Tales From Incredible
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Tales was hosted by Raihan Yako Wayne Ray and Carl.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: His special guest, Eugene Tay from Supernatural Confessions directed and
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: produced by Carl Ong, written by Wayne Ray. Assistant director
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Jin Sin Wei, director of photography. She Chua Gaffer Jonathan Chan.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Art director Jolene Lim Sound by Audrey Lee
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Hair and makeup by Beno Lim.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Behind the scenes, footage shot by Bernard Lee. Production assistant
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Jasmine Hen. Studio support by Citrus post production by Fudge
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: motion graphics by Jolene Lim. Special thanks to Danny Cord
• 34:17
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• 34:21
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• 34:30
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