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Members Only! Murder Monday!- Herb Bholemeister & Fox Hollow Farm (PT 1) · Cosmic Peach

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Speaker 1: Oh, hello, and welcome to American Top forty. I'm Casey, Casey.
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Speaker 2: Monday Monday, so good to me.
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Speaker 3: Monday morning.
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Speaker 1: It was all I hope it would be.
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Speaker 3: On Monday morning. Monday morning.
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Speaker 2: Goodn't guarantee the moname man, you will still be.
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Speaker 1: Here with me.
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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome back to another members only murder Monday.
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Speaker 3: It's just another members only murder Monday. Let's get you
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Speaker 3: through this bitch of a Monday morning with something absolutely taintalizing.
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Speaker 3: I cannot even begin to tell you how much fun
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Speaker 3: we're gonna have. First of all, let me just say
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Speaker 3: this case that I'm about to present to you is
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Speaker 3: so big and the web is so twisted. I had
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Speaker 3: to elicit the help of my baby daddy. I needed
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Speaker 3: to get some fresh eyes on the topic because I
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Speaker 3: was quickly becoming overwhelmed with the amount of information presented
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Speaker 3: and none of it was adding up, none of it
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Speaker 3: was making even a dog hair of a bit of sense.
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Speaker 3: So I had to elicit the help of others. And
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Speaker 3: I think I've come to the ultimate and final conclusion
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Speaker 3: on what's going on in this case. I think I've
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Speaker 3: solved it. But this Monday and next Monday bringing it
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Speaker 3: up into two parts. Here we're going to be discussing
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Speaker 3: the case of Herbert Baumeister and the Fox Hollow Farm.
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Speaker 3: You guys, you guys, Oh my god, when I tell you,
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Speaker 3: none of the evidence is making any sense for the
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Speaker 3: explanations they're giving. And you know what, before we just
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Speaker 3: pounce on this like a tiger, let me calm down,
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Speaker 3: let me collect myself, because we're gonna have to go
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Speaker 3: through a journey of a timeline of events that happened,
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Speaker 3: of witnesses, of testimonials, of eyewitness accounts, of documentaries made
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Speaker 3: of Oh boy, if there was ever if someone were
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Speaker 3: to ask me, is there one case out of all
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Speaker 3: the serial killers throughout all of history, if you could
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Speaker 3: choose one case to prove the programmed to kill theory,
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Speaker 3: what would that one case be? And throughout the last
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Speaker 3: couple of years, I may have said, Jeffrey Dahmer, I
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Speaker 3: may have said Ted Bundy. But no, no, no, If
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Speaker 3: there is one case to prove the program to kill theory,
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Speaker 3: it is the case of Herbert Baumeister the Fox Hollow Farm.
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Speaker 3: I will be reading you a segment of the Holy
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Speaker 3: Grail of serial killer Lydia Tour right here. It is
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Speaker 3: the book by David McGowan called The Programed to Kill
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Speaker 3: the Politics of a Serial Murder. I will be reading
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Speaker 3: you a little passage from David on his thoughts on
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Speaker 3: Herbert Baumeister, and you may be thinking to yourself, what
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Speaker 3: is this interest to me? Why does Herbert Baumeister, Why
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Speaker 3: is this supposed to interest me? Well, if it doesn't
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Speaker 3: interest you, get lost, because yes, it's a rather old case.
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Speaker 3: It's back from the nineties, late eighties, early nineties, that's
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Speaker 3: when herb was doing his ripping and running supposedly, and maybe,
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Speaker 3: sure it doesn't interest you, that's fine, get lost. We'll
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Speaker 3: see on another episode. But for those brave enough to
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Speaker 3: continue the episode, today's part one, and then next Monday
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Speaker 3: we're coming back for the part two, prepare to be
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Speaker 3: absolutely mind boggled by the amount of bullshit, crazy cover up.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking multi state, multi country level cover up. Oh my,
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Speaker 3: oh my god, you guys, the case of Herbert Baumeister.
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Speaker 3: My actually, and I've researched them all. John Bennet, Madeline McCann,
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Speaker 3: Marilyn Monroe, some really really difficult cases for me to
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Speaker 3: pin down and say, Okay, I think this is what happened.
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Speaker 3: This might be the worst out of all of them,
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Speaker 3: the hardest for me to put the pieces together out
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Speaker 3: of all of them. John Bennet, Marilyn Madelyne, this might
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Speaker 3: take the fucking cake out of all of those cases.
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you're here because we're going to solve
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Speaker 3: it together. I already knew about Herbert Baumeister for the
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Speaker 3: last few years. I remember the first time I read
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Speaker 3: Programmed to Kill, thinking to myself, even what David McGowan
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Speaker 3: had written about him wasn't solving the case for me.
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Speaker 3: There is still a lot we don't know, will never know.
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Speaker 3: And the way that I've solved this and Baby Daddy
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Speaker 3: verified that what I'm laying down is probably the closest
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Speaker 3: to the truth will ever come. I had to use
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Speaker 3: a lot of my intuition, had to use and I've
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Speaker 3: never claimed to be a psychic person or anything like that,
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Speaker 3: but I had to use my intuition. I had to
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Speaker 3: use a lot of common sense and a lot of
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Speaker 3: skills that I have learned over the years studying these cases.
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Speaker 3: Somebody really could hire me as a private detective. You
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Speaker 3: got a missing love one out there. I'm for hire. Okay,
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Speaker 3: just gonna sail that out there, because I've gotten to
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Speaker 3: the point looking into all these cases where I mean,
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Speaker 3: really I feel like I could a bust some shit
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Speaker 3: wide open. But that's beside the point. I was thinking
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Speaker 3: about what would be an interesting case to solve together
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Speaker 3: for a murder Monday. And I was going through huluh
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Speaker 3: shows and Netflix shows looking for cold case files that
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Speaker 3: never got solved, seeing if I could put the old
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Speaker 3: peacher to work in solving something grandiose with you the audience,
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Speaker 3: bringing it full circle. Nothing like solving a good old
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Speaker 3: cold case together like John Benet and Maryland, etc. And
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Speaker 3: this docu series popped up on Netflix Recommended for you,
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Speaker 3: was called The Fox Hollow Murders The Playground of a
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Speaker 3: serial Killer, and oh boy, oh boy, what a roller
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Speaker 3: coaster ride. It's technically two seasons, but the second season
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Speaker 3: is just a bonus episode. The first season has I believe,
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Speaker 3: four or five episodes, and then the bonus episode. Let
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Speaker 3: me just play a clip, a trailer if you wish,
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Speaker 3: of Fox Hollow Murders, The Playground of a serial Killer
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Speaker 3: rollng one.
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Speaker 4: I looked down and saw the bones of a foot
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Speaker 4: I'd never seen that many skeletal remains, thousands bones everywhere.
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Speaker 4: How many victims are out here.
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Speaker 2: I had no idea what was about to unfold.
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Speaker 4: It's a serial killer case.
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Speaker 3: The Dancellor would be packed.
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Speaker 2: The guards were the one place in the city where
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Speaker 2: we felt safe.
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Speaker 3: This killer, he's the dumber you've never heard of. It
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Speaker 3: was like Casey's basement.
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Speaker 4: More and more men are going missing. Police out and
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Speaker 4: these people and just run away.
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Speaker 3: The family never had answers.
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Speaker 2: I've got a big problem with that, and I'm not
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Speaker 2: gonna love and be forgotten any longer.
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Speaker 4: We need to go back. And then the lead broke
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Speaker 4: the case open. They discovered the farm, police confirmed the
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Speaker 4: approach of the owner of the Fox Follow.
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Speaker 1: Farm, and the whole place was so bizarre.
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Speaker 3: It was really creepy.
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Speaker 4: There were mannequins, mannequins behind the bar, almost like it
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Speaker 4: was a club.
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Speaker 3: I definitely felt the presence of people.
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Speaker 4: Ye have something out of a movie.
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Speaker 3: Over ten thousand remains.
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Speaker 2: The largest number of unidentified team that remains sucond only
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Speaker 2: to the World Trade Center. He brought the authorities to
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Speaker 2: the property.
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Speaker 3: Oh this home feels so nice and comfortable.
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Speaker 2: I just wrapps itself around you.
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Speaker 3: Not many people live to tell about their involvement with
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Speaker 3: the serial killer.
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Speaker 1: Now let me tell you a very very interesting story.
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Speaker 2: Okay, how does one man drag all these people into
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Speaker 2: the woods?
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Speaker 3: None of this makes any sense? Was there an accomplice?
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Speaker 1: Everything we know about this case from you? Absolutely, let's
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Speaker 1: not do that.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: Never before a face to face interview with a camera.
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Speaker 4: Why, Now.
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you what do you think?
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Speaker 1: Am I the evil culprit the accomplice?
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Speaker 2: I'd like to know how the audience amuse me?
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Speaker 1: The box Hollow murders playground of a serial killer omi
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Speaker 1: on Hulu.
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Speaker 3: I give it ten out of ten charred humorous bones
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Speaker 3: and that'll make sense later on. Granted it's an NBC
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Speaker 3: production or ABC or whatever the fuck it was, and
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Speaker 3: they're owned by Disney. I learned this from baby Daddy
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Speaker 3: because I was trying to get my thoughts together for
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Speaker 3: this show, and I said, what do you know about
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Speaker 3: Herbert Baumeister? And he said, just what you've told me
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Speaker 3: over the years, and I said, okay, well that's not
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Speaker 3: going to help me, and he because I already know
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Speaker 3: what I know? Will you watch this docuseriies and start
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Speaker 3: looking into this guy, because there's more to this story.
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Speaker 3: I know there's more to this story, and even in
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Speaker 3: this docuseries. Of course, in this docuseries, they're toying the
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Speaker 3: line between what is acceptable to the mainstream and program
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Speaker 3: to Kill Territory. So he watches the docuseries. He thought
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Speaker 3: it was garbage. He said it was poor filmmaking and
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Speaker 3: that it was really bad. I loved it. I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was tremendous. But he did pull a
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Speaker 3: lot of information out of the docuseries. We talked about it,
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Speaker 3: we researched this guy for a while, and now here
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Speaker 3: we are, Oh my god, you guys. What I will
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Speaker 3: say is, I've never seen a mainstream documentary comes so
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Speaker 3: close to Program to Kill Territory. They're just teetering into it.
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Speaker 3: Because of course Herb had an accomplice. Of course, he
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Speaker 3: fucking did all of them, did every solitary instance of
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Speaker 3: serial murder. There's most likely there is a ninety percent
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Speaker 3: chance they were working with a network of other individuals.
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Speaker 3: I've never seen a docu series teeter this line between Okay,
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Speaker 3: we think the mainstream will accept this, but let's push
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Speaker 3: it a little further, because what we know about this
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Speaker 3: case this. I really can't think of another serial murder
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Speaker 3: case where this is the circumstance. But everything that is
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Speaker 3: known about the Fox Hollow murders and Herb Baumeister comes
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Speaker 3: from one individual that's not Herbert Baumeister and is not
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Speaker 3: a victim and is still alive, And no arrests were
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Speaker 3: ever made, no interview was ever done with Herb Baumeister,
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Speaker 3: no one's ever spoken to a survivor. But we have
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Speaker 3: someone who has divulged every single iota of a blip
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Speaker 3: of a fucking fragment of this story. It all comes
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Speaker 3: from one third party person. I've never seen a serial
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Speaker 3: killer case where there wasn't at least an interview with
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Speaker 3: the motherfucker, a trial, conviction, a testimony based on you know,
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Speaker 3: survivors or you know, the somebody who got away and
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Speaker 3: lived to tell the tale, and now we know certain things.
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Speaker 3: It just I've never seen a serial killer case where
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Speaker 3: they never talked to the actual serial killer, never got
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Speaker 3: an interview, never questioned him, never arrested him. There are
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Speaker 3: no survivors, and yet there's this third party person who
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Speaker 3: knows all of this stuff about Herb and how the
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Speaker 3: murders took place, but he was never arrested and he's
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Speaker 3: not considered to be an accomplice. But how is it,
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Speaker 3: how is it that this third party person is responsible
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Speaker 3: for giving us every facet of the information we know
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Speaker 3: about this case. Think about that for a second. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to reveal who this person is in the part too.
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Speaker 3: The first we need to set the stage a little bit,
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Speaker 3: So if you will oblige me to come along on
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Speaker 3: this journey to Fox Hollow Farm, I guarantee you will
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Speaker 3: be highly entertained. You may have to reevaluate your panty
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Speaker 3: drawers by the end of this episode, because it's a
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Speaker 3: taint busting, be whole clenching, ask spray inducing type of
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Speaker 3: a story. So, without further ado, let us begin Happy Monday.
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Speaker 3: Everybody who is Herbert Baumeister. Let's just pull up the
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Speaker 3: old Wicked Chita and I will share screen. He are right.
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Speaker 3: Herbert Richard Bowmeister was an American businessman and serial killer
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Speaker 3: who came under suspicion of murdering over a dozen men
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Speaker 3: in the early to mid nineties. See this is a
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Speaker 3: red flag when they can't tell you how many, just
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Speaker 3: like with Ted Bundy, just dozens and dozens. That's what
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Speaker 3: the Wikipedia says, no exact number, just dozens and dozens.
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Speaker 3: So he came under suspicion of murdering over a dozen
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Speaker 3: men in the early to mid nineties, most of whom
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Speaker 3: were last seen at gay bars in central Indiana. Police
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Speaker 3: ultimately found the remains of eleven men, eight identified on
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Speaker 3: Bowmeister's property. He died by suicide, Ding Dinging Ding after
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Speaker 3: a warrant was issue for his arrest. Since his death,
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Speaker 3: he has come under suspicion for the murders of twelve
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Speaker 3: other men along Interstate seventy in Indiana and Ohio, which
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Speaker 3: occurred from the early nineteen eighties to the early nineteen nineties.
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Speaker 3: So if you have not already with this two part
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Speaker 3: series here on the murder Monday, I would watch the
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Speaker 3: docu series available on Hulu again, it's called Fox Hollow
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Speaker 3: Murders to play grand of a serial killer. If you
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Speaker 3: can find the time within the next week and be
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Speaker 3: ready by next Monday, I would go ahead and watch
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Speaker 3: it all four or five episodes available because it's going
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Speaker 3: to make things make a lot more Since next Monday,
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Speaker 3: when we come back for the part two, Herb Bowmeister
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Speaker 3: do you guys remember that Christmas movie. It's really old.
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Speaker 3: It's like clamation or something, and it's got bug A
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Speaker 3: myce Myceta bug Santa Claus is coming to town. If
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Speaker 3: I'm not put one food in frondery every time I
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Speaker 3: say Herb bowmeister, that's the fuck what I think of.
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Speaker 3: This is obviously unrelated, but Herb Bow, Mysta Mysta bow
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Speaker 3: and is fox Hollow Beehole Farm. It's outrageous anyway. Now,
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Speaker 3: remember he was never convicted, never questioned, but he's got
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Speaker 3: this Wikipedia that says he's guilty of all of it.
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Speaker 3: No need to look any further. He's killed himself and
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Speaker 3: that's all you need to know. Folks. There was And
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Speaker 3: by the way, the Wikipedia is wrong. They suspect up
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Speaker 3: to sixty men were scattered about, decapitated, bones everywhere, dismembered,
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Speaker 3: burnt up and disarticulated throughout Fox Hollow Farm. Okay, up
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Speaker 3: to sixty not eleven? Nine? Ten? They only identified eight. Boy,
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Speaker 3: isn't that a funny number? They only identified eight, And
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Speaker 3: then after her Herb shot himself, supposedly, they stopped identifying victims.
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Speaker 3: They stopped the investigation altogether. They were just like, oh,
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Speaker 3: must have been him because he killed himself, So no
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Speaker 3: need to look any further and no need to identify
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Speaker 3: anymore box. Even if the motherfucker shot himself, you still
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Speaker 3: need to find out who's out there and how many
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Speaker 3: is out there? But no, out of sixty possible victims
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Speaker 3: discovered at Fox Hollow Farm, they only identified eight. And
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Speaker 3: wouldn't you like to know? Because these things tend to
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Speaker 3: happen in groups. Impacts Herbert Baumeister, Jeffrey Dahmer, and this
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Speaker 3: other serial killer that we're going to talk about later
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Speaker 3: named Eler something or other Isler. They were all committing
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Speaker 3: identical crimes, identical murders in and around the same area
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Speaker 3: during the same timeframe. This is why when was government cheese.
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Speaker 3: Let's look at this, Randy Craft government cheese. I hope
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Speaker 3: you listen to that, because if not, this isn't going
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Speaker 3: to make any sense. When was he active nineteen seventy
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Speaker 3: two through nineteen eighty three? Okay, so this was before
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Speaker 3: so Randy Craft could have been the training wheels for
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Speaker 3: what broke out because Randy Craft also was picking up
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Speaker 3: young gay dudes, and I mean I think some of
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Speaker 3: them were straight, and he just offered to give him
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Speaker 3: a ride somewhere, decapitated, dismember to throw them out on
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Speaker 3: the side of the highway. Jeffrey Dahmer picking up young
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Speaker 3: gay dudes, decapitating him, fling them open, dismembering them, disposing
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Speaker 3: of the bodies. This I think his name is Steven Eiler.
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Speaker 3: He went down for some fifty six homicides, picking up
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Speaker 3: young gay dudes, dismembering them, stabbing them, killing them, raping them,
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Speaker 3: beating them, mutilating them, throwing them out on the side
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Speaker 3: of a highway. Herb supposedly bringing him back to his place,
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Speaker 3: young gay men picking him up at gay bars, just
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Speaker 3: like Dahmer and Eyler and Brandy Craft. God the blueprint
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Speaker 3: of this, how similar all of these serial killers are.
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Speaker 3: It's just it blows my mind that people can't put
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Speaker 3: these pieces together. Herb Boomeister picking up young gay dudes
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Speaker 3: at bars, bringing them back to his place, choking him
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Speaker 3: out using some type of legature strangulation, supposedly dismembering them,
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Speaker 3: filming snuff films, burning their bodies in his backyard on
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Speaker 3: the farm. Said it was a mulch pile, but it
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Speaker 3: was just a bunch of leaves and dead bodies. Piled up. Now,
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Speaker 3: let's talk about Fox Hollow Farm itself, eighteen and a
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Speaker 3: half acres eighteen and a half acres. It's got a
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Speaker 3: big gas mansion, two horse barns, pasture fencing, and like
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Speaker 3: a five car garage with like a small apartment on
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Speaker 3: top of it. And this was owned by Herbert Baumeister
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Speaker 3: and his wife, Juliana Baumeister, and I believe they had
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Speaker 3: two or three kids. They also owned some thrift stores
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Speaker 3: called Save a Lot, which is funny because there was
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Speaker 3: this grocery store in Kentucky where I grew up. It
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Speaker 3: was like the most it was like the generic version
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Speaker 3: of generics. It was just so trailer trash. I can't
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Speaker 3: even you would You wouldn't even believe it. And my
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Speaker 3: mom always took me there. We'd get groceries. It was
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Speaker 3: called Save a Lot. But anyways, so he has these
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Speaker 3: thrift stores called Save a Lot, two thrift stores, and
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Speaker 3: I can't imagine they're making a ton of money off
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Speaker 3: of these thrift stores. They're like a goodwill type of situation,
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Speaker 3: privately owned goodwill type of situation. And somehow they've managed
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Speaker 3: to buy a multi million dollar estate of eighteen and
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Speaker 3: a half acres sprawling. Oh my goodness, the mansion is gorgeous,
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Speaker 3: indoor pool with a locker room. I mean, this place
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Speaker 3: is insane. Let's look at some pictures here, Fox Hollow Farm,
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Speaker 3: Fox Hollow Farm images rate rate. Let's share the screen here.
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Speaker 3: You really, you really can't get a good understanding unless
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Speaker 3: you look at the place. Right. There's some books that's
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Speaker 3: been written about it.
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Speaker 1: Here.
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Speaker 3: Look at this place. Look at that. Look at all
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Speaker 3: of that with the house sitting on it. That is
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Speaker 3: not fox hallo Farm. Let's see. Maybe we should click
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Speaker 3: on this. It says tour of fox Hollow Herb Baumeister
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Speaker 3: on YouTube. Okay, yeah, this is uh, this is fox
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Speaker 3: Hall of Farm. Look at all the wooded area. Okay,
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Speaker 3: look at all the wooded area. So this is they're
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Speaker 3: doing some kind of news broadcast because they've reopened to
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Speaker 3: the case. Conveniently, they just dropped the newest episode of
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Speaker 3: this fox Hollow show on Hulu. They just dropped the
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Speaker 3: newest episode July fourth this year. That's the current owner.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about him. He's not getting off scot free,
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Speaker 3: and he's explaining that after he moved to fox Hall
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Speaker 3: of Farm, he ended up finding more bones that had
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Speaker 3: not been discovered yet. I don't really care about seeing him. Okay,
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Speaker 3: we're back to the house again. Look at this place. Okay,
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Speaker 3: this is some old news footage of them finding bones
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Speaker 3: and shit. Uh two horse barns. Look, Oh my god,
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Speaker 3: it's beautiful. The mansion itself is just gorgeous. It's the
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Speaker 3: stuff of dreams. Still live in a big gas house
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Speaker 3: like that. If I can find some more pictures and
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Speaker 3: stuff of the inside, I'll share them because it is
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Speaker 3: just breathtaking. At the same time, it has this feeling
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Speaker 3: about it. Again. Maybe it's just my intuition going off,
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Speaker 3: but even looking at it through a video or pictures,
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Speaker 3: it just has this ominous fucking feeling. And the weird
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Speaker 3: part about it is it's called Fox Hollow Farm. But
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Speaker 3: did Herb even own horses. It's a fucking horse farm
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Speaker 3: with two horse barns and the whole shabigiti bang. Well, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: Herb Baumeister never owned her horses. Herb never fucking owned
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Speaker 3: a horse. Uh well, maybe he just liked horses and
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Speaker 3: wanted to be somewhere where they could live. He just
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Speaker 3: liked to pretend and take a little hay bale out
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Speaker 3: there feed some pretend horses, and he'd take a little
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Speaker 3: bucket of grains and throw them around in the yard
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Speaker 3: just because he liked horses. He liked the thought of
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Speaker 3: maybe one day owning. No, he didn't have no fucking horses. Okay,
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. So what is this guy who
28:47
Speaker 3: owns a couple thrift stores that can't be too lucrative
28:51
Speaker 3: of a business. What is this guy doing with a
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Speaker 3: multi million dollar horse farm with no horses? And see,
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Speaker 3: this is why don't anybody ask these questions?
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 3: And there was past tense. There was an episode of
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Speaker 3: Ghost Adventures. I hope you guys listen to the throwback
29:20
Speaker 3: Thursday where I talk about Ghost Adventures because anywhere that
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Speaker 3: guy goes, you need to fucking be weary of it
29:29
Speaker 3: because he's into some dark shit. So and he probably
29:34
Speaker 3: communes with spirits and dabbles into the occult and stuff
29:38
Speaker 3: like that, the Zach Baggin's character. But anyway, so Ghost
29:43
Speaker 3: Adventures went to Fox Hollow Farm. I would assume they
29:52
Speaker 3: reached out to the current owner, which again we'll be
29:56
Speaker 3: talking about him in the next episode. They probably reached
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Speaker 3: out to the current owner and said, could we come
30:03
Speaker 3: and investigate this location. Well, it's not really that well
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Speaker 3: known the Herb Baumeister case. So how they were able
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Speaker 3: to locate it and get permission to do an entire
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Speaker 3: Ghost Adventures episode there, I don't know. But after watching
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Speaker 3: the docu series and trying to put these pieces together
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Speaker 3: to solve this case for you, I thought it might
30:26
Speaker 3: be good if I could go back and watch that
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Speaker 3: episode and see if I could even uncover anything from that.
30:33
Speaker 3: And to my surprise or lack thereof, it's been completely
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Speaker 3: removed from any type of streaming platform. You can't watch
30:44
Speaker 3: it on Netflix, you can't watch it on Hulu, you
30:48
Speaker 3: can't watch it on Amazon Prime, you can't watch it
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Speaker 3: on Discovery Plus. So I took to Google. I said,
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Speaker 3: why did the fox Hollow Farm episode of Ghost to
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Speaker 3: Adventures get removed? It said, and you can google it
31:05
Speaker 3: for yourself. There is no official reason why the Fox
31:10
Speaker 3: Hall of Farm episode was removed, and then it listed
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Speaker 3: some bogus reasons why it might have because it's sensitive information. Well,
31:19
Speaker 3: they've went through two a million places where it's been
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Speaker 3: sensitive information and they never gave it a shit before,
31:27
Speaker 3: So I'm not buying it. Now. What do people say
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Speaker 3: about Herbert Baumeister because we know very little about the man.
31:35
Speaker 3: So they say herb was an extremely nervous, closeted gay man,
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Speaker 3: and that anybody who had ever seen him at a
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Speaker 3: gay bar ever described him as standoffish, very nervous, very introverted, shy,
31:53
Speaker 3: and that he would stand in a corner by himself
31:55
Speaker 3: and look around at people. And one person actually said,
31:59
Speaker 3: this man appeared to absolutely hate himself, hate himself. But somehow,
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Speaker 3: this extremely standoffish, nervous, loner, self hating, closeted gay man
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Speaker 3: who wouldn't talk to anybody at the bar, somehow manage
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Speaker 3: to lure fifty six plus men back to his house
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Speaker 3: to engage in some type of illicit sexual behavior they
32:29
Speaker 3: say could have been autoerotic exphyxiation, and then decapitate them,
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Speaker 3: dismember them, and burn their bodies and pieces in the backyard.
32:42
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to read to you an excerpt from
32:45
Speaker 3: Program to Kill by the one and only David McGowan.
32:48
Speaker 3: Before you start rolling your eyes, this is very important
32:52
Speaker 3: and if we're gonna blow the tits off of this case,
32:54
Speaker 3: I want to know every facet of the truth. So
32:58
Speaker 3: we can only start with it's one of the best
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Speaker 3: researchers who's ever lived, David McGowan, and see what he
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Speaker 3: had to say about Herb. So, I actually have a
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Speaker 3: digital copy of program to Kill. I was just going
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Speaker 3: to read out of the book, but I figured you
33:12
Speaker 3: might want to follow along. So I'm going to share
33:15
Speaker 3: my screen and I'm going to read to you from
33:18
Speaker 3: Programmed to Kill. So here we go. As a child,
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Speaker 3: Herb Bowmeister reportedly never showed any emotion, even when his
33:28
Speaker 3: father became physical, which apparently happened quite frequently. Herb Boomeister
33:34
Speaker 3: Senior had served in World War Two, after which he
33:38
Speaker 3: graduated from Indiana University School of Medicine and began working
33:43
Speaker 3: as an anesthesiologist. So we already have his father being
33:50
Speaker 3: a World War Two that now his son and namesake
33:58
Speaker 3: initially set out to follow in his father's academic footsteps
34:03
Speaker 3: by enrolling in college as an anatamy major. Would you
34:08
Speaker 3: look at that? Unlike his father, however, her Junior dropped
34:13
Speaker 3: out of school. Then he married Julianna Satter, the daughter
34:18
Speaker 3: of a superintendent at the Naval Air Warfare Center. This
34:24
Speaker 3: is so Laurel Kenyon and knowing what we know about
34:27
Speaker 3: her being a closeted gay man. This was all set up.
34:31
Speaker 3: This was all set up. A daughter of a superintendent
34:35
Speaker 3: at the Naval Air Warfare Center. This is screaming Laurel
34:42
Speaker 3: Canyon to me. And there is an interview of Julie.
34:47
Speaker 3: I'll see if I can find it where she's like, well,
34:49
Speaker 3: you know, Herban, I wasn't like a romantic kind of
34:52
Speaker 3: love like candlelight dinners and cruises to the Caribbean. It
34:56
Speaker 3: was more like a family love. Well, I bet it was.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: Herb and Julianna were both members of the Young Republicans,
35:05
Speaker 3: as was Ted Bundy. Ooh little Ted Bundy connection. Not
35:12
Speaker 3: long after the marriage, Herb's father had his newly oed
35:15
Speaker 3: son committed to LaRue D. Carter Memorial Hospital, a state
35:21
Speaker 3: run mental hospital. It's like Gary from the Gunman episode.
35:26
Speaker 3: His dad had him committed. The Carter facility catered to
35:31
Speaker 3: patients with serious mental impairments. Yet there is no indication
35:35
Speaker 3: that Herb was at that time seriously impaired. This is
35:39
Speaker 3: where he got his training, now, and this is probably
35:43
Speaker 3: where he got wrapped up in the spring, and if
35:47
Speaker 3: he had been talking about seriously mentally impaired, his father
35:53
Speaker 3: was an extremely wealthy man who could have easily afforded
35:58
Speaker 3: to get his son private care. Herb Senior's choice of facilities, therefore,
36:03
Speaker 3: was a rather odd one. Long before the confinement at Carter,
36:09
Speaker 3: Herb Senior had reportedly secreted his young son off to
36:14
Speaker 3: be administered ooh mental examinations. So they were doing a
36:20
Speaker 3: little experimental non node Herbaumeister Junior. So Herb was released
36:28
Speaker 3: from the Carter facility after two months. His diagnosis noted
36:32
Speaker 3: that he exhibited two or more distinct personalities. Was that
36:36
Speaker 3: before or after his time at the state run mental
36:41
Speaker 3: facility that he started exhibiting to personality? See this, but
36:45
Speaker 3: they do. They break off a segment of the personality.
36:48
Speaker 3: There's a Sleeper, which is the forward personality that everybody sees,
36:53
Speaker 3: that runs a thrift store, that's married to Juliana, who
36:57
Speaker 3: lives at the horse farm. And then there's the other Herb,
37:01
Speaker 3: who is a closeted gay man that's going to gay bars,
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Speaker 3: picking up dudes, ripping their nippies off, crucifying them, chopping
37:09
Speaker 3: them up into little bit of pieces, and then burning
37:12
Speaker 3: the pieces. That part you don't get to see, and
37:17
Speaker 3: if you do, you don't live to tell the tale. Sheesh,
37:27
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