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USPS Whistleblower Warning | Students Cheating with AI · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 3: As Amy is looking at me when I said rear end,
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  Speaker 3: what are you doing, Handel? Okay, what's going on right
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  Speaker 3: now with voting? As you no doubt know, the president
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  Speaker 3: is obsessed with mail-in ballots, convinced that mail-in ballots are
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  Speaker 3: full of fraud, and he has to unload on mail-in ballots.
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  Speaker 2: He has to just say they have to disappear.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the fact that mail-in ballots tend to trend Democratic.
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  Speaker 2: Is a little problematic, isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Not to the president, because mail-in ballots, especially in Democratic states,
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  Speaker 3: are fraudulent.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he is part of the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, he started the election deniers who believe this. I
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  Speaker 3: believe this is true. I don't think anybody doubts it.
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  Speaker 3: When a Democrat wins, it is a rigged election.
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  Speaker 2: The only way a.
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  Speaker 3: Democrat winning is by an unfair, rigged, cheating election. When
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  Speaker 3: the Republicans win, that's a free election.
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  Speaker 2: It's that simple. There's no such thing as a Democrat
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  Speaker 2: win without it being rigged. That's OK. That's a given.
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  Speaker 3: So now translate that into mail in balloting since they
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  Speaker 3: tend to skew Democratic. And the president has said this
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  Speaker 3: is we have to stop this mail in balloting completely.
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  Speaker 3: Big problem because where mail in balloting takes place in
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  Speaker 3: mostly Democratic states, California, for example, every registered voter gets
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  Speaker 3: a ballot by mail. Other states, swing states, the majority
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  Speaker 3: of these states have mail-in ballots. And so there was
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  Speaker 3: a postal service whistleblower, someone on the inside, and whistleblower
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  Speaker 3: is a legal term, a protected person. is saying that
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  Speaker 3: even though the court has ordered that major plans of
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  Speaker 3: this new digital system of basically controlling mail-in ballots or
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  Speaker 3: reducing them as much as possible is risky and haphazard.
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  Speaker 3: And more importantly, the Postal Service is continuing on in
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  Speaker 3: setting up these mail-in ballot restrictions. And they're going to
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  Speaker 3: do it by way of the Postal Service. And here
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  Speaker 3: is the argument they're using. Number one, oh, we're not
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  Speaker 3: doing it. We're just preparing to do it in the
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  Speaker 3: event we win. And what is this about? Well, it's
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  Speaker 3: about registering or finding everybody who's on a mail-in ballot
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  Speaker 3: registration list in California.
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  Speaker 2: That's everybody. And then looking for fraud. Fraud.
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  Speaker 3: And looking for fraud as if one or two or
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  Speaker 3: five of the 40 million voters who are registered is
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  Speaker 3: fraudulent or who do mail-in ballots is fraudulent, then the
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  Speaker 3: argument is the entire mail-in ballot can be invalidated because
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  Speaker 3: it was fraudulent. And the court said, nah, you can't
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  Speaker 3: do it. So what is the White House doing?
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  Speaker 2: They're doing an end around it.
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  Speaker 3: And they're getting ready for it because the case is
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  Speaker 3: now in front of the Supreme Court and they are
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  Speaker 3: rushing this because the midterms are coming up.
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  Speaker 2: This is a question of time now.
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  Speaker 3: It's rushing to make sure the Republicans prevail in the
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  Speaker 3: midterms because if mail-in voting is eliminated and the only
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  Speaker 3: people that can vote are those who, and by the way,
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  Speaker 3: not complete mail-in voting being elimination, but just the way
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  Speaker 3: states count the votes, for example, California, we don't get
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  Speaker 3: a real count until weeks later because if the ballot
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  Speaker 3: is postmarked before Election Day, the state has up to
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  Speaker 3: seven days to then start counting it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty loose in California.
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  Speaker 3: And so the president is trying to stop that cold
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  Speaker 3: because most of the same-day voting is Republicans vote far
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  Speaker 3: more same-day than mail-in. And he wants to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of mail-in voting completely because it's fraudulent. Oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: do you know who mailed in their votes twice?
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  Speaker 2: The president. But he is against mail-in voting. And we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: So this official, this whistleblower, said that the portal's verification
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  Speaker 3: process to see who is registered, who is legitimate in
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  Speaker 3: those lists, could reject tens of thousands of people voting
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  Speaker 3: if even one barcode on one single ballot failed to
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  Speaker 3: properly scan.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the point of all this.
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  Speaker 3: Because again— Are you going to see a tax being
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  Speaker 3: made on any Republican victory at all? Because the premise
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  Speaker 3: is there is no such thing as fraud in Republican
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  Speaker 3: districts when Republicans win.
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  Speaker 2: That is a free election.
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  Speaker 3: That is American democracy at its best when Republicans win.
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  Speaker 3: That is a free democracy period because when Democrats win,
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  Speaker 3: there is no democracy.
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  Speaker 2: It's stealing the election. You ever thought we'd come to that?
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever think we would come to that point
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  Speaker 3: where the definition of a free election is when one
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  Speaker 3: party wins?
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  Speaker 2: So they're prepared to do it.
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  Speaker 3: And the point is the states, of course, have complete
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  Speaker 3: control in how voting is done, setting up the rules
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  Speaker 3: and regulations.
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  Speaker 2: And what the president is doing, here's the end around.
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  Speaker 3: Because mail-in balloting is done by mail, then the Postal
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  Speaker 3: Service can get involved and, in this case, can make
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  Speaker 3: sure the right people get the right ballots. And that
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  Speaker 3: means registration with the states, with the federal government.
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  Speaker 2: It gets a little complicated, to say the least. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: moving on.
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  Speaker 3: You're starting to sound like me.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I saw you swallow that last bit just before
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  Speaker 3: OK, a word or two about what's going on with Iran. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: what a shocker talking about that. That's not in the news.
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  Speaker 3: And this, as you know, has to do with the
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  Speaker 3: attacks that are going on. And the president is going
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  Speaker 3: back and forth. We're going to bomb Iran. We're not
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  Speaker 3: going to bomb Iran. We have a great deal coming.
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  Speaker 3: They're desperate to come to the table. We're controlling the
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  Speaker 3: Strait of Hormuz.
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  Speaker 2: It is wide open.
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  Speaker 3: We've won the war. We have decimated Iran. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to kill their people. nuclear program, except, wait a sec,
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  Speaker 3: we already wiped out their nuclear program. I mean, that
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  Speaker 3: goes on and on. But what is happening is Iran
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  Speaker 3: is continuing to deny inspectors from the UN nuclear watchdog.
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  Speaker 3: And that is the International Atomic Energy Agency. And a
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  Speaker 3: report just came out from the Director General saying that
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  Speaker 3: the agency can't verify the location or the status of
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  Speaker 3: Iran's nuclear near-bomb-grade uranium. And they're saying we only want
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  Speaker 3: uranium for peaceful purposes, for nuclear power. That's it, for research,
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  Speaker 3: nothing more. Well, that's 2% to 3% enrichment. Bomb-grade enrichment
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  Speaker 3: is over 90% when you have uranium that is enriched
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  Speaker 3: to that point or they're used for nuclear weapons. Well,
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  Speaker 3: at this point, and this is according to the report
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  Speaker 3: and estimates by the International Atomic Energy Agency, it says
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  Speaker 3: Iran has an estimated 9,875 kilograms of enriched uranium. Now,
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  Speaker 3: here is the important numbers. 184 kilograms, that's 2.2 pounds
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  Speaker 3: per kilogram, is enriched up to 20%. 440 kilograms, over
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  Speaker 3: 1,000 pounds, is enriched up to 60%.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. You only want this for peaceful purposes.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 3: We are not engaged in creating a nuclear weapon. Why
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  Speaker 3: do you have it at 60% enrichment level?
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  Speaker 2: Which reason?
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  Speaker 3: Is not a far jump from going to 90. That's
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  Speaker 3: a fairly easy jump because the technology to move it
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  Speaker 3: in that direction is there. Well, no, we only want
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  Speaker 3: it for peaceful purposes. The bottom line is Iran is
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  Speaker 3: going for it. I think everybody knows that. Certainly Israel
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  Speaker 3: knows that and their intelligence is superb. I think the
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  Speaker 3: United States knows that. And the International Atomic Energy Commission, well,
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  Speaker 3: they're saying we don't know. We don't know because we
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  Speaker 3: don't have access. So we don't know for a fact.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing we know for a fact, they're not
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  Speaker 3: letting us through the door to report on this. So
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  Speaker 3: the report says the agency cannot provide any information on
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  Speaker 3: the current size, composition, whereabouts of the stockpile of enriched
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  Speaker 3: uranium in Iran or whether Iran has suspended enrichment activities.
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  Speaker 3: Nor can the agency provide information about the current inventory
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  Speaker 3: of centrifuges. In Iran, the way they enrich uranium is
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  Speaker 3: they use these centrifuges, thousands of them going 24-7. So
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  Speaker 3: Iran continues to refuse long-standing unresolved questions.
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  Speaker 2: About its previous nuclear program.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's only for peaceful purposes, is what they said,
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  Speaker 3: and the undeclared sites. Now, we do know of one thing.
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  Speaker 3: is that while Iran is always denied seeking a weapon,
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  Speaker 3: it has never satisfactorily explained to the agency why it
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  Speaker 3: has enriched to 60%.
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  Speaker 2: We'll never see that.
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  Speaker 3: And there is one plant, Rasvahan, that we didn't even
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  Speaker 3: really know existed. And that's where The U.S., Israel, and
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  Speaker 3: intelligence organizations think that's where the nuclear, the enriched uranium
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  Speaker 3: is kept, deep underground. It was bombed, and the argument
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  Speaker 3: the U.S. says is we bond it so the Iranians
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  Speaker 3: don't have access to it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: People lie a lot about that. Countries lie. Israel has
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  Speaker 3: never admitted that it has an atomic weapon.
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  Speaker 2: You know that. Never. And it does. It has some.
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  Speaker 3: 200 nuclear warheads, give or take. There is a facility
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  Speaker 3: out in the Negev desert, which is called Dimona, which
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  Speaker 3: is universally known as the center for the Israeli nuclear,
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  Speaker 3: the nuclear bomb program. And it is officially described as
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  Speaker 3: a resort. Now, if you go to the Dimona resort,
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  Speaker 3: First of all, you can't get near it because it
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  Speaker 3: has fencing, chain-link fencing around it for miles that says,
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  Speaker 3: don't get in here because we're going to kill you.
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  Speaker 2: And then you look at the actual building.
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  Speaker 3: The wall around the building has concertina wire that's 14
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  Speaker 3: feet high. That is my idea of a resort, don't
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  Speaker 3: you think?
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  Speaker 4: Well, okay. Hear me out on this. It's a resort,
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  Speaker 4: but it's the last resort.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. And so Israel– and one of the things about Israel,
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  Speaker 3: if Iran were to get an atomic weapon, which Israel
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  Speaker 3: will never allow it to do, it will go to
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  Speaker 3: full-scale war.
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  Speaker 2: It will go balls to the wall with war in
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  Speaker 2: Iran because.
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  Speaker 3: Iran is– Israel is convinced that Iran will unleash atomic
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  Speaker 3: weapons through its proxies. It will give it to one
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  Speaker 3: of the terrorist groups that will bring it into Israel,
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  Speaker 3: and there goes Tel Aviv. And Israel is not going
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  Speaker 3: to go down fighting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it will. It's going to be a tough one.
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  Speaker 3: That's why the Middle East is considered the flashpoint of
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen in terms of conflicts. Okay, moving
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  Speaker 3: over to something that you and I are involved in
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  Speaker 3: every day, and that is viewing ourselves as working class.
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  Speaker 3: Not middle class, working class. Now, usually when we think
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  Speaker 3: of working class, well, we used to think of working
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  Speaker 3: class as.
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  Speaker 2: Lower earners or earners, workers.
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  Speaker 3: Without a bachelor's degree or people working explicitly in blue-collar
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  Speaker 3: fields like construction and agriculture.
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  Speaker 2: That is the working class. It used to be that way. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: has that expanded.
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  Speaker 3: A new survey from Pew finds that workers, even with
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  Speaker 3: good savings and able to pay their bills and make
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  Speaker 3: a good salary, feel working class. Now, here's one that
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know was even a thing, but I
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  Speaker 3: guess it is a thing. Republicans are more likely to
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  Speaker 3: use that label to describe themselves, working class, even those
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  Speaker 3: that have money. Majority of Americans now hear themselves in
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  Speaker 3: Dolly Parton's song 9 to 5. 60% of Americans identify
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  Speaker 3: as working class.
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  Speaker 4: 60%.
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  Speaker 3: That's up from 54% two years ago. And maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: because the term itself is fairly ambiguous. I mean, what
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  Speaker 3: is working class, right? It's different places, different terms, the
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  Speaker 3: way we think. But even while up to now, the
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  Speaker 3: wages have increased relative to inflation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, inflation is so high, it really doesn't even matter.
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  Speaker 2: It's baked in. And now wages are below that of inflation.
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  Speaker 3: What middle class, middle class, previously middle class earners, a
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  Speaker 3: third of them used to feel similarly about their savings
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  Speaker 3: and spending.
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  Speaker 2: They used to feel middle class. Not anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Middle class or working class and people that are genuinely
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  Speaker 3: middle class and consider themselves middle class are drifting apart.
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  Speaker 3: Middle class earners are now tracking more closely with the
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  Speaker 3: lowest earners. And they're spending that way too. And I
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  Speaker 3: want to keep reiterating this, reiterating middle class and working
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  Speaker 3: class are two very different animals. And when you think of,
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  Speaker 3: most of us thought ourselves of middle class.
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  Speaker 2: Lower middle class, upper middle class, that seemed to be everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in a family that was fairly middle class.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe even upper middle class, but middle class.
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  Speaker 3: Today, that same family, my parents, if they could work,
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  Speaker 3: but they're kind of dead, so that makes it difficult,
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  Speaker 3: they would consider themselves, well, working class. My dad was
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  Speaker 3: a union electrician, so I guess that's working class, although
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  Speaker 3: he made a good chunk of money.
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  Speaker 2: Because he was a union electrician. My mom was a
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  Speaker 2: lab tech.
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  Speaker 3: So they both were, you know, they had good jobs. Today,
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  Speaker 3: they consider themselves working class. A lot of the problem
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  Speaker 3: is inflation, because what high prices do is make people
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  Speaker 3: feel bad about our economic prospects. And it is, well,
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  Speaker 3: financial stress absolutely correlates with identifying as working class. And
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  Speaker 3: I find it interesting that Republicans view themselves. And I
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  Speaker 3: guess when you're rich, you don't really consider yourself rich
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  Speaker 3: unless you're ultra rich. Democrats consider anybody, let's say, making
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  Speaker 3: a couple hundred thousand dollars a year is pretty rich.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that is more than just a regular income.
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  Speaker 3: If you're making $ 200, 000, $ 250, 000 a year, ask a Republican
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  Speaker 3: who's making $ 200, 000, $ 250, 000 a year.
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  Speaker 2: That's middle class. We're changing our views. We are. Neil,
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  Speaker 2: you consider yourself working class or middle class? I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to go around the room real quick.
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  Speaker 4: I guess working class plus.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but not middle class plus.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think there is a middle class anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Well, but people, there actually is, but no one considers themselves.
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  Speaker 3: I guess middle, yeah, middle class.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but we make tremendously more than our parents.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and you and Tracy, you know, you guys
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  Speaker 3: make very, very good money.
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  Speaker 4: She's got multiple degrees.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing that.
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  Speaker 3: And you've been around the station for a very long
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  Speaker 3: time and you do a lot of stuff around the
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  Speaker 3: station and you are one of the more highly paid
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  Speaker 3: people at the station. By the way, Neil makes $ 43, 000
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  Speaker 3: a year, and he is one of the most highly.
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  Speaker 2: Paid people at the station. What does that tell you?
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  Speaker 2: But I paint.
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  Speaker 4: On weekends.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: I do chores around if you need a hand.
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  Speaker 2: There you are. You get paid for those. Okay, really quick. Amy,
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  Speaker 2: middle class, working class?
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  Speaker 4: Working class.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Anne, working class, middle class? Lower class. Seriously lower class.
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  Speaker 3: Legitimately.
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  Speaker 2: Legitimately. What's that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a question of how you perceive yourself. Will,
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  Speaker 3: lower class, middle class, working class.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely not middle class.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And probably 10 years ago, we'd be considered middle class. Kono,
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  Speaker 3: eating dog food or cat food out of your can.
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  Speaker 2: Lower than hand class, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The lowest class.
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  Speaker 2: What's the lowest class? There you go. I know he's...
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  Speaker 2: One of the untouchables. I'm in class, but the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of it. Understood. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, interesting article, and I pulled this up because I've
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  Speaker 3: been thinking about this a lot. This is New York Times.
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  Speaker 3: It was an op-ed piece, and it was written by
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  Speaker 3: a guy named Adam Grant, who is an organizational psychologist
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  Speaker 3: at the Wharton School at University of Pennsylvania, probably one
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  Speaker 3: of the best business schools in the United States, maybe
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  Speaker 3: the world. By the way, Donald Trump went to Wharton, incidentally.
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  Speaker 3: So the day before a take-home exam in his undergraduate
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  Speaker 3: course at Wharton, a few students were sending frantic messages
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  Speaker 3: to him saying they knew that some of their peers
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  Speaker 3: were planning to use AI to cheat. And he, like
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  Speaker 3: any other teacher, thought a little bit upset, felt like
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  Speaker 3: a betrayal. So 95 students log in for the exam.
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  Speaker 3: And here's what he did. is he ditched the multiple
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  Speaker 3: choice and short answer questions. And instead he asked the
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  Speaker 3: students to write an essay using the principles of organizational
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  Speaker 3: psychology they'd been studying.
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  Speaker 2: And what was the topic? How to motivate students to
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  Speaker 2: stop cheating.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little ironic. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And as he says, the responses really shocked him. And
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. It's not just the excuses that
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  Speaker 3: people use for cheating. And there's all kinds of excuses
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  Speaker 3: that I'll get into in a moment. But hardly any
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  Speaker 3: students saw cheating as a violation of integrity. That's the
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  Speaker 3: issue here. Not that you're just cheating for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 3: but that you as a student cheating and there's no
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  Speaker 3: moral problem with you cheating. That is the problem. So
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  Speaker 3: a majority of the students who cheated make excuses. We're
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  Speaker 3: under a lot of stress. Everyone else is doing it.
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  Speaker 3: We have no choice. And so what's happening, because this cheating,
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  Speaker 3: especially with AI, has exploded, teachers are switching to these
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  Speaker 3: in-class essays and oral exams. You sure as hell can't
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  Speaker 3: use AI in an oral exam. You're up there going, uh, uh, uh. Now,
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  Speaker 3: he says creating obstacles is never going to be enough. Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because the underlying motivation is wrong. That as students are
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  Speaker 3: aiming to get better grades, it's so competitive, it's so
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  Speaker 3: crazy out there that they have to use any way
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  Speaker 3: to get better grades, including cheating. The big problem, as
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  Speaker 3: I said, is, you know what? We've got to do it.
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  Speaker 3: We have no choice. And we feel okay about it.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Coming back, I want to share the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: story with that one because this goes on. This is
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  Speaker 3: a really big, big issue. It says a lot about
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