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Players to watch in Week 15 matchup | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, December 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to James Trying with Joon Hoosier Hurst and Bryan
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  Speaker 1: sixty sixty. James Dry starts right now, We'll take a
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  Speaker 1: knee and get out of here. The clock continues to turn.
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  Speaker 1: This place is empty. It ain't empty because I see
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Teal colors over in the standing. Trevor's
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a knee. He takes a knee, and that
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  Speaker 1: will do it. Right there at the end that scuffle
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  Speaker 1: was Trevor was Trevor. He was in the middle of it,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he was letting these Tennessee Titans, no boys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, okay, and this is gonna be my division
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  Speaker 1: in the future. After last week, I haven't seen and
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  Speaker 1: we're piste off when we had to come out answer
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  Speaker 1: a divisional opponent, seeing we haven't beaten a longsome We're
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  Speaker 1: just we want to get this time was always how
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  Speaker 1: could it be anything but a good morning when it
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  Speaker 1: starts that way. Hello and welcome to Thursday's edition of
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time from t I A A bank Field in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton alongside John Osier. You know John. Last week
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  Speaker 1: after the Moss in Detroit, the week felt like it,
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  Speaker 1: I mean every day felt like Monday. You just it's
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  Speaker 1: tough to shake that hangover right this week. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's already Thursday. It feels like it's racing by. And
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  Speaker 1: we worked for the team, so we want the team
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  Speaker 1: to win, yes, but in our position there's a neutrality
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  Speaker 1: too that you don't really get caught up in at
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  Speaker 1: But what I loved about that clip we just showed um.
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  Speaker 1: I went to the BCB gathering both Sea Gay gathering
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  Speaker 1: in Nashville and talked to a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: I consider friends after knowing them now for six seven years.
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  Speaker 1: They probably don't feel the same way about me, but
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  Speaker 1: a one way friendship has developed and the passion that
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  Speaker 1: they feel for it um to have the moments. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't talked to any of them since the game, but
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine that they weren't watching Trevor go after
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  Speaker 1: the defensive lineman waved to the fans, pointed the scoreboard. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they have their guy. The Jaguars have their guy. I
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  Speaker 1: wrote in quick thoughts this morning, if there was any
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  Speaker 1: doubt that he was that this was his team, And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really extend it to this, but his fan base,
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  Speaker 1: his It ended right there. This kid is fun, he's competitive,
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  Speaker 1: he does it the right way. He's got a little
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  Speaker 1: sas to him. It's gonna be fun around here for
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  Speaker 1: a while with this kid. Yeah, you know, this could
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  Speaker 1: be the start of something big. I mean, you can
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  Speaker 1: sense that. And I go back to yesterday's conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Brian Broadus from one oh five three the Fan in
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  Speaker 1: Dallas talking about Jacksonville being that Green Bay kind of
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  Speaker 1: market in the South, you know, the one horse town,
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  Speaker 1: and it's small, but the fan base is passionate. And
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  Speaker 1: when they show up in places like Nashville or Tampa
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, they go somewhere every year,
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  Speaker 1: you can see the genesis of it. What they needed
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  Speaker 1: was someone like Trevor to just make it all fall
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  Speaker 1: into place. And it was a cool moment of there
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  Speaker 1: of And when you're in the press box that's where
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  Speaker 1: it's air conditioned or heated, depending on the situations, it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I could live there, um, but you don't feel it.
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  Speaker 1: As as I've gotten away from the day and seeing
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  Speaker 1: more clips and talk to more people, there really was
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  Speaker 1: a feeling of all right, We're done being kicked around
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  Speaker 1: no more. This is gonna be ours now, and if
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  Speaker 1: it's not ours, you're not gonna take it from It's
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  Speaker 1: easy anymore. And I thought that's what the scoreboard look was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little it was a little juvenile and sassy.
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  Speaker 1: But I like that well, and it's allowed us to
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  Speaker 1: kind of hang on to it, you know, It's made
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  Speaker 1: it fun to chew on all week long. So big
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  Speaker 1: shout out to Trent and the crew that puts that
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  Speaker 1: all together, all the photographers in the Jaguars production department.
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  Speaker 1: They got great shots of all of it, and you
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  Speaker 1: can see the entire sounds of the game on Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: dot Com. Trent's right over there by the way. He's
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  Speaker 1: pretending he didn't hear you a bit he heard well,
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  Speaker 1: he's you know, easily to the last. He's sensitive to
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  Speaker 1: his name being called. Um. I'm sensitive to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that it's time to move on because the Cowboys present
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  Speaker 1: a huge challenge on Sunday for the Jaguars in another
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  Speaker 1: moment that the fans can celebrate a week before Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: So let's roll right into big things here on the
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  Speaker 1: Cur's Day, and we'll start with a different Doug. Look, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Doug has never been the guy who talks about running
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  Speaker 1: the ball and how many runs and balance and all
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  Speaker 1: of that. He's a guy who likes to throw the ball.
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  Speaker 1: He's a former quarterback after all, and he understands modern offense. However, yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: talking to the media, he did hint that it might
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  Speaker 1: be a little something different on Sunday. You need more,
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  Speaker 1: you need more out of out of the run game. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you probably need that thirty yards. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you need to somehow slow the pass rushdown. You've you've
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  Speaker 1: got to be able to do that. And you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes even the mindset of playing ball control,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and keeping the ball out of their hands.
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  Speaker 1: It's an explosive offense. You're always going to play teams
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  Speaker 1: that are, you know, really good run defensive stopping units,
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  Speaker 1: which we've had the last couple of weeks. This is
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  Speaker 1: another one that you know is doing a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: job in the in the run game. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we just gotta we just gotta maybe call a few
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  Speaker 1: more um and then execute a little the better big
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  Speaker 1: thing two is better take two to chin straps to
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  Speaker 1: aspirin before the game. The Cowboys are a team that
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  Speaker 1: runs the ball with two running backs. They average a
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  Speaker 1: hundred and forty four point five yards per game. Each
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  Speaker 1: of the running backs is on pace for a thousand
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  Speaker 1: yards each already has nine touchdowns. That's the engine that
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  Speaker 1: makes this go. You see the big highlights of Ceedee
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  Speaker 1: Lamb making the dramatic catch down the field, but it's
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  Speaker 1: those two running backs that make it go. We'll show
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  Speaker 1: you that in just a moment. First, though, let's go
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  Speaker 1: to Big Thing three, which is towards a Thursday before Christmas. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: here we go, folks. I mean, the intensity of this
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  Speaker 1: game goes far beyond the fact that it's the Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys making only their second ever visit here to Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: to play a football game. The first was Opening Day
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  Speaker 1: two thousand six, so it's been a while. The other
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  Speaker 1: side of the coin is that it's a big game.
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  Speaker 1: It's meaningful football. And we talked back around Auto training
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  Speaker 1: camp right in the preseason, just give us some meaningful
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  Speaker 1: football games around Thanksgiving. Here we are now with a big,
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  Speaker 1: meaningful football game the Sunday before Christmas. Players understand what
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  Speaker 1: that means. We're excited about the sold out crowd. This
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  Speaker 1: is the type of environment that we've hoped for back
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  Speaker 1: in China Camp, and now we're at an opportunity that
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  Speaker 1: we have to play meaningful games this late in the
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  Speaker 1: year some special man and and I think everything that
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  Speaker 1: we're doing now it's you know, it's it's a part
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  Speaker 1: of what the steps that we had to do to
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  Speaker 1: grow their organization other team. So uh, like I said
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  Speaker 1: in that earlier we're excited about it, and it's just
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  Speaker 1: the next opportunity, the next man. All Right, those are
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  Speaker 1: big things. John, just talking to folks around the building.
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  Speaker 1: The crowd we're gonna see here on Sunday is going
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  Speaker 1: to be reminiscent of the Patriots in two thousand eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the Steelers games throughout the years some of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest, boldest crowds that all tell Stadium, Jackson Movie,
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  Speaker 1: Municipal Stadium. Now t i a a bank Field has
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. It's going to be a huge event of
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  Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, and it's gonna be Cowboys fans. They're
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  Speaker 1: and but guess what, there's Cowboys fans in every stadium
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  Speaker 1: in the league when they play. That's how it is.
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  Speaker 1: I I said a couple of times. I said on
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  Speaker 1: our podcast yesterday with Bucky Brooks. Bucky Brooks Bee, Bucky
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  Speaker 1: brook Well, it's his show, his town. Um, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be Cowboy fans. But I don't doubt for
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  Speaker 1: a minute that the Jaguars fans here are going to
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  Speaker 1: be the dominant presence. And uh, they're gonna be. Now.
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  Speaker 1: They've got continued to earn that throughout the game because
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  Speaker 1: if if you're down by a Tanner, that can be
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  Speaker 1: the dominant presence. But I think the Jaguars fans are
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  Speaker 1: gonna come out in force. I think they're ready. I
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  Speaker 1: think there's an enthusiasm about this team. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be excited. All right, Let's go back to the
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  Speaker 1: running game. Because Doug talked about having to have hud
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  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards and earlier this year you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get him to give you a number. He didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to be pinned into a balanced kind of conversation. But
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  Speaker 1: just look here. The Jaguars over the last four games
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  Speaker 1: have only averaged sixty seven rushing yards per game. Now,
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  Speaker 1: part of that you can say is falling behind in
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City and Detroit. And obviously that's the case Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: that you know you lose Travis e t and so
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  Speaker 1: you only get thirty eight, So there is some circumstantial
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  Speaker 1: evidence for why that that number would be low. But
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  Speaker 1: there there's a seventy one and a half yard per
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  Speaker 1: game differential between what they're getting on the ground and
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  Speaker 1: their ability to have control of the ball and the
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  Speaker 1: clock as opposed to you see what the defense Unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: the last four games has not been very good stopping
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  Speaker 1: the run. Yeah, I was trying to figure out the
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  Speaker 1: graphic here, but it's a good graphic because it obviously
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  Speaker 1: shows the drop off. I think the drop off primarily
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  Speaker 1: it is not necessarily uh effort or commitment to it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more they haven't broken big runs um.
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  Speaker 1: For the first eight or nine games of the season,
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  Speaker 1: it was remarkable how often you saw E t and
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  Speaker 1: a run and then they broke uple for j Rob
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  Speaker 1: when he was here. But Travis etn was breaking nine
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  Speaker 1: yard iss runs with remarkable consistency. That hasn't been there
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  Speaker 1: the last four weeks. I think some of that is
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  Speaker 1: sort of UM. I don't say luck, but it's tough
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  Speaker 1: to pop him in this league, and sometimes it takes
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  Speaker 1: one maybe you're one play away from popping it. I
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  Speaker 1: believe it's a key this week. I don't necessarily think
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be six carries anywhere from three to eight
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  Speaker 1: where you get that kind of number. I think e
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  Speaker 1: Tn is gonna need to pop a couple. Uh. If
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  Speaker 1: he breaks two over twenty five, I think they can
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  Speaker 1: win the game. And it seems like a lot, but
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  Speaker 1: there's been games this year Washington, I think in Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: he did it, multiple games where he's done that. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna need those sort of big plays from him.
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  Speaker 1: Worth pointing out that the Ravens and the Titans both
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  Speaker 1: top five against the run on Sunday, Dallas not top five.
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  Speaker 1: They give up a lot of rushing yards about a
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  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty per game, so perhaps the chance to
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  Speaker 1: break one will be there. Now, here's why Doug needs
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  Speaker 1: bull control. Right, and let's show you the graphic of
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  Speaker 1: the comparison with these two running backs from the Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys and Pollard and Elliott. You can see right, they're
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  Speaker 1: both averaging more than four yards per carry, both with
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  Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. They're different runners, but they're both capable of
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  Speaker 1: beating you. And so my question to you is can
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars stop the Cowboys rushing attack? Well? Um, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that they can stop it in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that when you look at the stats at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the game, you're gonna see them both under thirty
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  Speaker 1: five yards. I don't know if it's it's me that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stopped. I think what they can do is
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  Speaker 1: is stopped them enough. And in some situations, say, for example,
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  Speaker 1: they have three drives where the Cowboys really get it going,
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  Speaker 1: and those drives could very conceivably created for yards rushing.
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  Speaker 1: If on three or four other drives you get a
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  Speaker 1: big first down, stop your second, and nine, you force
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  Speaker 1: them into passing situation, you get them out of it,
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  Speaker 1: then you're you know, it's the only thing. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think his defense is going to be a dominant defense
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  Speaker 1: for twelve series of game. But if they can get
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  Speaker 1: four or five big stops to get them off the
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  Speaker 1: field and situations, I think they can stop the run
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  Speaker 1: that way. I think I thinks are probably too good
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  Speaker 1: to think that you're gonna have a huge number that's
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  Speaker 1: on Sports Center. Hey they did this. But I think
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  Speaker 1: you can stop them enough to get control of the
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  Speaker 1: game the way you need to get control of it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, when week come back, we'll take you around
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars locker room on the Wednesday of this very busy, energetic,
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  Speaker 1: an exciting week for the Jaguars in their fans around
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  Speaker 1: the locker room is next on Jags Drive Time. Here
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time. We're in Jacksonville awaiting the arrival of the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys this week, first time they've been here since two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and six, and of course a huge crowd is
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  Speaker 1: expected at the stadium. Now you can't go anywhere in
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  Speaker 1: this town this week, which is what makes it fun
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  Speaker 1: without people wanting to talk about this game, and the
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  Speaker 1: players also are excited to talk about this. We went
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  Speaker 1: around the locker room and let's start with Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: who knows what this defense needs to do to keep
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  Speaker 1: it going. That's what we uh, that's what we part
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  Speaker 1: ourselves or miss defense man is this to get the ball,
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  Speaker 1: but it's gonna take all eleven And that was that.
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  Speaker 1: That was you know the core. The core messages to
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  Speaker 1: the defense man. We all have to put all the eleven,
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  Speaker 1: especially this game, and this is another a tunity that
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  Speaker 1: we can have a game like this. Uh they you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys are really good team front end and back end,
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  Speaker 1: so we all have to be locked in. The communication
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  Speaker 1: is going to be key. We all gotta get to
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  Speaker 1: that ball, we gotta stop the run, and then we
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  Speaker 1: gotta rush the passage. So we're excited about this matchup.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much says play good defense. But it goes back
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  Speaker 1: to the takeaways creating the turnover's job, which early in
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  Speaker 1: the season, when this defense was playing at a high level,
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  Speaker 1: was the case. They got off to a hot start,
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  Speaker 1: they gotta stay hot. Now, yeah, it's been turnovers all year.
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  Speaker 1: I made the case the last couple of weeks. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think this defense has regressed lately. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: been what it has been most of the season. A
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  Speaker 1: defense that has some troubles in the back end and
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  Speaker 1: doesn't rush the pastor at an absolutely elite level in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. But when they get takeaways and they take
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  Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunities they get, they do get some
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  Speaker 1: energy and they play much better. It can be an
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  Speaker 1: effective defense to help them win games if it plays
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  Speaker 1: like did last week, which is other that these are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of credit last week for continuing to believe
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  Speaker 1: in themselves even when maybe circumstances could have told them
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  Speaker 1: that they shouldn't. I mean, Derrick Henry was running and
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  Speaker 1: the Titans were running. They had fourteen points, and yet
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  Speaker 1: the defense kept playing hard. They kept believing in what
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  Speaker 1: they were and then they started getting turnovers. Uh doing
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  Speaker 1: made a play. Trayvon made a play, And it's sort
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  Speaker 1: of what I talked about. I think the Cowboys cast
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  Speaker 1: some effective drives, but if this defense continues to believe
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  Speaker 1: it can stop him, get some early stops on first down,
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  Speaker 1: get him in situations, you can get them off the
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  Speaker 1: field enough. That's what complementary football is. When you're not
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  Speaker 1: a dominant unit. They're not there yet, but they can
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  Speaker 1: get there enough to win this game if they do
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  Speaker 1: the things we're talking about. Well, I just asked you
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  Speaker 1: off the top of the show. Can the Jaguars stop
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  Speaker 1: this Dallas Cowboys running offense with those two backs averaging
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  Speaker 1: almost a hundred and forty five rushing yards per game.
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  Speaker 1: So let's hear from Jaguars middle linebacker foy Alukon, who
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  Speaker 1: just happens to be the NFL's leading tackler through thirteen games.
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  Speaker 1: Can they get this job done? Know? Um Zekeo kind
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  Speaker 1: of grinds you down. I think he's very explosive to be.
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  Speaker 1: His moves of his own polot can slash. He has moves.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're very too talented. Uh nice little stab
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  Speaker 1: where they got there, kind of feed off each other.
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  Speaker 1: Run well, um, you know, with one eats, the other,
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  Speaker 1: one's gonna eat you know right after that just couldn't
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  Speaker 1: brings a little bit different kind of paste to it.
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  Speaker 1: So really eleven is one. I mean, that's how to
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  Speaker 1: stop a run game. Getting your gap and get to
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  Speaker 1: the ball. If one of them cuts it back, have
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  Speaker 1: the next guy cleaned it up. Mrs Tackle, somebody cleaned
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  Speaker 1: it up like everybody hunting like we did last game.
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  Speaker 1: Get to the ball from the from the first quarter
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  Speaker 1: of the last quarter. Be challenged. Because that offensive line
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  Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, even though it's not as good as
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  Speaker 1: the great Cowboy lines of the last ten years have been,
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  Speaker 1: still has talented guys like Zack Martin who can get
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  Speaker 1: out and make trouble for you. Well, they're good and
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  Speaker 1: they can run, block, and they can dominate the game.
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  Speaker 1: As he said again, I keep saying it over and
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  Speaker 1: over again, but I truly believe the key is going
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  Speaker 1: to be how they play on first down. Can they
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  Speaker 1: get them into bad down distant situations and allow them
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  Speaker 1: to rush the passer and not always. You cannot be
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  Speaker 1: in second and six, third and two over and over
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  Speaker 1: and over again, because then it will get numbing and
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  Speaker 1: and they will be in control of the game. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: They've got to get some penetration and make plays on
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  Speaker 1: first down. I mean, frankly to the point where he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to make the plays all the time. Get
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  Speaker 1: the penetration and take the middle linebacker out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Defensive line has to penetrate and I trip these guys
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  Speaker 1: up before they get to the line. Report Lawrence has
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  Speaker 1: been the talk of the town for that matter. He's
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  Speaker 1: been the talk of the league this week, coming off
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: his three hundred and sixty eight yard, three touchdown, one
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: rushing touchdown performance. He has been as good as a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback as there is in football over the last five weeks,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and Evan Ingram was the beneficiary. On Sunday in Nashville,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: catching a Jaguars record by one yard over Pete Mitchell's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty one yard record, now the record holder
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: from most yards by a tight end of an Ingram's
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: big game in Nashville with one and sixty two. He
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: shared some thoughts on his perspective of young Trevor Lawrence
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: thirteen weeks into this season, each a little bump in
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: order the experience he's learned from he's grow from. Um
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and Uh, and he became a stronger player, a stronger teammate,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: um and uh, a better person of the two. Um.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And he's just being himself. Uh. He's playing for swagger
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and he's playing with confidence. Um. You know we feed
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: off him. I know he feeds off of us too.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So UM, the sky's a limit for him. UM. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it's I know that because I just know how he works.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I see I see how he works and how he
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: pairs and how he carries himself. UM, it's really cool
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: to see. It's it's it's it's a blessing and it's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a privilege to be part of. For sure. There is
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: something to the sense these guys get when they know
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: their quarterback is that good. It's Uh, it's everything. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: mean you Uh, when he plays like that, I they
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: know they have a chance in every game and throughout
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the course of since I've been following the league, when
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: teams have quarterbacks like that, they never think they're out
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of it. It raises the level. I think it raises
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: what we were talking about the other day with the defense.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You know, it's much easier to play defense and continue
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: to play hard even when you are giving up some
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: points if you know the quarterbacks keeping you in it,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and just one play that you make can be the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: difference in the game. Uh, they know what special is
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and what's not. I mean when I was with the Colts,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: for example, Peyton Manning was not always the most popular
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: guy in the locker room because he led uh very strictly.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, he expected a lot of teammates and uh,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you don't always love that. But they knew they needed
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: him on that wall, so to speak. To use the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: only Jack Nichols um so, and you never doubted the direction.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: You never doubted if you have a chance, And that
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: carried him to a lot of games they shouldn't have won.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Um And I can compared. I'm not gonna compare Trevor
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: to Peyton yet because Peyton did it over the course
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: of his career. He's a rushmore reatomy, but he's showing traits.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: They're both were sixteen. Oh yes they did, Yes, they did.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to the dominant theme this
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: week beyond Trevor and that is a big game and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: one of the most intense Jaguars is left tackle Cam Robinson.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: He's that guy who shows up ready to bring it
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: on every single play, a tempo setter, if you will,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars will obviously need him to feed off
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: this crowd and to play his best football on Sunday.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like he's ready. Yeah, I know, he
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: gets I only I don't think people. I mean just
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: kind of because of the way he's been around in
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the past few years. I think people understand that when
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: when the stadium gets full of and when they kind
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of gets going, it gets going. I mean, we're in
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Florida and it's this football country. So whenever the football
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: teams a roll and it's it's always fun. You know.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: They picked the bank out in this loud and this
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: um it's a great environment. He is one of those
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: guys one of those key guys that um brings the intensity.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Remember in seventeen when he was a rookie, Nate Hackett told,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you know, at the offensive coordinated time, told me he
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: was absolutely critical to their offense. And it was rookie
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: left tackle. And at times he played okay, played you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: know whatever, And it wasn't necessarily what he did in
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: terms of playing, but he was the guy who went
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and I defended teammates when there was you know, a scrap.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: He was the guy the spiritual leader of the team already,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: if you will. And I think because he doesn't do
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of media like that, he doesn't really
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: effort to put himself out there. I think sometimes fans
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: might not really uh sense that about him, how important
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: he is to the spirit. Hate the word spirit, but
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in this case the spirit and the moxie of the team.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Cam's a big on that front. All right. That'll do
• 22:02
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• 23:00
  Speaker 1: R's Day morning. And that means he will, he won't,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: he might, and John will start with you, and I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: kind of went chalkare I went Trevor Lawrence, which uh,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I usually don't do with this. You try to pick
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: somebody who's not really a major storyline. But uh, he
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: will be such a key to the game that I'm
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: not sure you can ignore him this week. Um, I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: think he'll play well. I think we're beyond having to
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: worry about, you know, disastrous games from him. Uh. He
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: won't match his numbers from last week because they were
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: pretty staggering. I think the Cowboys defense is better than
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the Titans defense, but he might be the factor that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: allows them to win. And by saying that, I mean
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: more than just this game. He might be at the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: point of his career where he's the reason that they
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: can go win these kind of games. Uh, it doesn't
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: always happen, even for the elite guys. Uh. I don't
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: know that that two months ago we would have sat
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: here and said that about him, that hey, they have
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a chance to go win this game because they have
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: sixteen on the roster um that has been sort of
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: building over the last four or five weeks. But I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: think all of a sudden, now you're sitting here on
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a Thursday and saying, why did the Jars have a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: chance to win this game? And the number one reason
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: it's because they have Terbor Lawrence. That's a huge difference.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And h regardless of what happens on Sunday, the fact
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that you can say that changes the dynamic of this
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: franchise dramatically from what it was. Well, just his the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: approach that he brings right, the entire approach. Yesterday, he
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: stood in his press conference and talked about that interception
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that he threw in the red zone in London against
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Denver and how he felt after the game. I mean
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: he's He's just such a pure competitor in that standpoint,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you don't have to get at what drives him. He's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: about football and his teammates know that as well. So
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I'll go with that understated storyline that you were talking about.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'll go with Luke Fortner, the Jaguars rookie center from Kentucky. Uh.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: He will be a huge reason why the Jaguars do
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: or do not protect Trevor Lawrence on Sunday, not just
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: because he's one of five, but because the center, as
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you know, is the quarterback of the offensive line, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense is second to the Eagles with forty
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: eight sacks. And just watching Phil Rauscher in the portion
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of the media time on the practice field yesterday and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the intensity with which he was talking about where everybody
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: lines up and how things change fast. This rookie center's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: got to have his head on a swivel. He's got
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to be very well prepared. I say he will be
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. He won't be a guy that anybody talks
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: about after the game. They'll be talking if the Jaguars
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: win about Trevor Or Travis or Josh Allen or an
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: interception from Uh from Campbell. I'm telling you though he
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: he won't be talked about, but he might be the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: reason why they win, John, because Trevor Lawrence is. If
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the best, most important reason why they
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: have a chance to win. I think Luke Fortner has
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: got to be number two. Are close to it because
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: he's the guy who is going to make sure that
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Trevor is protected by seeing what the cowboys are doing
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and the time that he prepares this week in the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: film room. Hi, all right, and with that we'll take
• 26:29
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• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys work hard together, they practice well. Um,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you know, it starts with Luke inside with communication and
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and uh spreads from there, you know, and and and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: really all five guys have played played really well, played
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: solid and consistent, and that's what you can ask you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: know of their offensive line to do and um, you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: they pride themselves on trying to keep the quarterback clean
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: if possible. John on Sunday in Nashville, the Jaguars kept
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: him clean. That is, no sacks allowed for the sixth
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: time this season, which is the most in the NFL
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, and a franchise record. They've had a
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: strange year because they're a good group and they've gotten
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: too much criticism for a long time, and they get
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: christicized a little bit this year because people chrisize the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: offensive line. They either give up zero or they give
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: up a couple, um, and it's hard to kind of
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: explain why that is. I think Trevor has helped them.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I think he gets rid of the ball quicker. I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: think any line is going to be helped by a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: quarterback with pocket awareness that's in, that's improve moving. Uh.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, overall, I give up twenty three sacks, is
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: here that this is a good unit that is come
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and in two of those cases right, So they gave
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: up four to the Eagles, and the Eagles had a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: big lead in the second half, so they were able
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to do the same thing with Kansas City they gave
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: up five to Kansas City, and Kansas City had a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: big lead, and they were able to send Chris Jones,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and they created a lot of situations on the road. Yeah,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I mean that all. And that's nine of the three
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and and Detroit got got too and one of those
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was just trash time, I mean at the very end
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of the ball game. So they've been pretty good this year.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: They're gonna have to be really good on Sunday because
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Mica Parsons is a guy who makes your head turn
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and an old fan Dante Fowler is uh is doing
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: pretty well for them in the run and stay ahead
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and the past thresh gets a lot harder to do
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: on the other side. Got a headline for well, wait,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: hold on, we have a nifty little jingle here. It's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: time for Monday's headlines today, All right, what you got? Well,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: if they win, that's the headline. Welcome to the future.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So that there. But I think that this wouldn't be
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the headline, but I think it's gonna be the theme
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: if you will, uh, one last hiccup, And because I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: think the Cowboys might be a little too much on
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Sunday for the jag Wars yet to be because I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are really really good. That being said,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I they have three more after that. If they don't
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: win this, they're not It's not done. And I think
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: they're going to run the table after this game and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: make it very interesting at the end this game. Whatever
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: happens here. Uh, unless the Titans go out and beat
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the Charges, which I don't think they will. Uh, everything
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: is still the same after this game for the Jaguars,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and I'll give you one on the winning end of it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: right because I think that Trevor Lawrence, I know that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the defense is better than the Titans defense, though Brian
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: broad has told us yesterday that the secondary that got
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: some issues back there. Um, I'll say his star is Teal,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and that is I expect Trevor Lawrence to have a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: huge game. Not it might not be yards and three touchdowns,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: but you will feel his presence in this ball game.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that the Cowboys run away with it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars have an opportunity in the fourth
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: quarter and whether they win or whether they lose, his
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: star is Teal. As a playoff of the Silver Blue Stone. Yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I should clarify, I've I've picked against the Jags a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: lot this year, probably because it makes it more interesting
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: because we're all talking about Um. I came really close
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to pick him this week. I there's something about this
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: team right now, and I know, I'm mean, you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it takes you back to there was something about that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: team too that you couldn't put your finger on, but
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: they just found a way to get it done. Um.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: So I really like the Cowboys overall. They're good. I'm
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I'm picking them, but it would not surprise me if
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we're sitting you're talking about it when on Monday. All right,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: and that'll do it. Jags Drive Time on a Thursday.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks to John and to Joe and Reber and Choe
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and our entire crew here for a good week on
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Drive Time. We'll hope to have a better week next week,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: maybe talking about a win on Monday morning. Have a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: great rest of your day, get some Christmas shop and done, folks.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: See you on Sunday.