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Jordan Cheyenne: WATCH THIS To Reprogram Your Mind & MANIFEST Your Dream Life · The Hannah Hammond Show

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  I became a millionaire and realized I'm still unhappy.
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  But when, when I could finally combine the money and the wealth
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  and the success with the internal healing and connection
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  and love for myself and for others, I was finally able to
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  see like, Oh my God, life actually is beautiful.
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  And it actually can be beautiful.
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  And I actually did create this. We're all manifesting 24/7.
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  It's not something you can turn on or turn off.
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  For most people, they've unconsciously, at no fault of
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  their own, manifested a reality that they do not desire.
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  The outcome can only be as great as the anergetic state in which
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  you initiate the action. You take action from a place of
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  desperation or begging or chasing.
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  It's a much different outcome that you're going to get rather
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  than taking the action from alignment when you're in the
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  vibration of your passion. Everything in my business
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  exponentially started compounding once I fixed the
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  inner stuff. Yeah, inside of me, and not only
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  did it compound, but I actually have fun doing.
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  It my family and friends have always just said, oh, Jordan's
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  delusional. She's living in her own reality.
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  She's got her head in the clouds.
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  And it's funny because I actually took that as criticism
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  growing up. Now someone telling me that I'm
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  delusional is the biggest compliment.
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  It only takes one person to be the generational curse breaker.
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  Anybody can do it. No matter what you've been
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  through in the past, we have the statistical data to prove that
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  you can rewire your. Welcome back to the Hannah
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  Hammond show. I'm here today with Jordan
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  Cheyenne and we are also going to do a collaboration on her
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  show Eat Pray Manifest and couldn't be more excited.
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  Jordan is a manifestation mindset mentor and talks about
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  the fact that manifestation isn't just it's not magic,
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  right? It's actually neuroscience.
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  And it's the way that we can create whatever we want in the
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  world is the way we can create health and Wellness and
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  abundance and amazing relationships.
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  And for those of you who you know, my story, I have
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  definitely manifested my way into building a wonderful life
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  after being, you know, suicidal when I was earlier in my life
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  and going through a lot of those challenges.
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  So it all starts with your inner world, not your outer world.
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  And I said on the School of Hard Knocks podcast, whether you
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  think you can, like whenever one piece of advice is whether you
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  think you can or you think you can't, you're right.
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  So it's so powerful and it's so important.
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  And I think it is even more important for entrepreneurs
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  because entrepreneurs are definitely, they tend to be that
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  work, grind, muscle culture, just suffer, you know, suffer,
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  have a goal worth suffering for. Like Alex or Mosey.
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  I love him. But but like, what if we can
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  create whatever we want in the world, work hard, of course, and
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  have big dreams, but do it in a way that it actually flows to us
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  and where we can enjoy the process.
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  So welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me.
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  I'm so excited. So for my audience who does not
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  know Hannah, she is a serial entrepreneur, she's an investor.
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  She's the CEO of HP Capital, national capital advisory firm.
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  She has built her dream life from the ground up and now
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  serves as an inspiration to women everywhere That with hard
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  work and an internal belief in yourself, you can do anything.
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  Thank you so much. Of course.
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  I'm so excited to do this club with you.
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  I feel like we've been chatting for a hot minute, not only about
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  business strategy, but mindset, internal energetic work.
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  And I feel like with both of our expertise combined, it's just
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  going to provide massive value to everyone.
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  I couldn't agree more. And it's it's awesome and just
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  finding you online in the power of Instagram and social media.
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  And I think you had shared a couple of my videos and I was
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  like, this girl's awesome. And it's just so important
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  because energy like energetic intelligence and the ability to
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  be aligned and know your values and be able to control your
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  energy in a way. Like literally control your
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  energy and choose how you show up every day, choose how you
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  feel every day and know exactly your true north and what you're
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  going for has always been. I mean, it's been the biggest
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  catalyst in my transformation from this grind, hustle, like
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  miserable suffering to I can't do this anymore.
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  I don't want to wake up anymore to now I can set whatever goals
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  that I want and, and go for them because I'm aligned with it.
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  And I actually can enjoy the process and the journey.
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  And I'm not tied to the outcome anymore because I'm not trying
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  to like fill this void or force this outcome.
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  And so I just can't wait to learn from you because I'm not a
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  manifestation expert. I've just learned these things
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  naturally through my own experience.
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  But I really, really, really want to dive into the actual
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  like science behind it and what your journey is and how you got
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  into this field and space and, and what that journey look like
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  for you. Yeah.
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  Thank you so much. I'm so excited to share.
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  I feel like the you actually had shared a quote a few months ago
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  and you said the external action that you take is only ever as
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  good as the internal energetic vibration from which you take
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  the action. And I know you're big on the
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  hustle and the grind. You're killing it.
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  You're such an inspiration to so many.
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  And I think really highlighting that the internal identity and
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  energetic vibration play a much bigger role than people even
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  care to realize. And that actually can be the
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  catalyst to anybody's success. So I feel like with both of our
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  knowledge combined, someone leaving watching this episode is
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  really going to leave with the exact framework to just kill it.
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  Yeah, exactly. And that's my favorite quote
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  that my coach had taught me when I was 25.
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  The outcome can only be as great as the anergetic state in which
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  you initiate the action. Yeah, because it's.
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  So true. If you take action from a place
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  of desperation or begging or chasing, it's a much different
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  outcome that you're going to get rather than taking the action
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  from alignment. When you're in the vibration of
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  your passion, it's very different.
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  Yeah. It's not going to be the one
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  that you want. No, because you, you attract
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  what you resist, right? Just like if I showed up to this
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  podcast today and I'm pissed off, I'm angry.
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  I just, you know, had to file bankruptcy or lost the money or
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  had a lawsuit or lost a, a, a friend, like somebody's sick or
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  something like that. We're probably not going to get
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  a very good outcome and we're probably not going to have a
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  very great podcast that's going to have a lot of impact on other
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  people's lives, right? Or even going for the deal that
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  we want to do or the client we want to attract or the partner
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  that we want to attract. If we're going into it with that
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  bad energetic state, the result is only going to match the
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  quality of the Android state that we.
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  Needed it 100%, yeah. So what what is your journey
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  like? How did you get into
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  manifestation? And yeah.
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  So actually growing up, I was someone who just always felt
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  very outcast. I had a lot of bullying, I had a
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  lot of physical issues, and I was kind of like the black sheep
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  of the family. I knew very young that I had big
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  goals, big dreams, a big mission.
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  I knew God had something beautiful for my life, but I
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  didn't know exactly what. I didn't know through exactly
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  what Ave. that would happen. But I've always had big goals
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  and dreams and my family and friends have always just said,
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  Oh, Jordans delusional. She's living in her own reality.
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  She's got her head in the clouds.
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  And it's funny because I actually took that as criticism
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  growing up. I used to think that that was a
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  negative statement that they were saying about me, when in
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  reality now someone telling me that I'm delusional is the
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  biggest compliment. I am as delusional as possible.
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  And I love that about myself because internally believing in
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  myself has what's gotten me everything I've ever wanted in
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  life. So it's almost like looking
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  back, the thing that I was quote shamed for, I was told, you
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  know, wake up, work hard, get a nine to five.
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  My dad's a lawyer. So he got up every day at 5:00
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  AM, put on his suit, went to court.
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  I grew up with very, very good parents.
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  I had a very good upbringing, very thankful for that.
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  But it was very like, go to school, get good grades, go off
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  to college. There was no talk of
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  entrepreneurship or of carving your own path.
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  So I actually did go to college. I went to Cal State San Marcos
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  right when I graduated high school for maybe seven months.
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  And I was like, this is not for me.
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  I'm dropping out. And I at that point, it was
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  right before Instagram and Facebook and TikTok and
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  everything. I started building my personal
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  brand. I was working a few different
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  retail jobs at the time, and I slowly started to build my
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  personal brand from there, which kind of catapulted into what it
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  is now. But I've always been so
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  interested in mindset energetics.
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  My mom introduced me to Tony Robbins, I think like 20 years
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  ago. And it wasn't even Tony that had
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  changed my life, but I went to one of his conferences and he
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  had a guest speaker come on teaching about manifestation.
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  And whenever someone said that word, I just rolled my eyes and
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  I cringed because there's such a deep misconception and
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  misperception about the word manifestation.
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  People think, oh, you can just close your eyes and wish for
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  something and poof, it'll appear.
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  So when someone would tell me, oh, you can manifest money or
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  wealth or health, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I just got to work
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  hard. I didn't really tap into
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  learning about it until I heard people who were experts in their
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  field talk about the neuroscience of rewiring your
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  brain. And at that point, I was a
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  broke, young single mom. I had my son at 21.
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  I had nothing to lose. So I dedicated one year of my
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  life to implementing everything that I had learned.
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  I'm like, I have nothing to lose, let me just try it out.
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  Started speaking kindly to myself, believing in myself and
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  implementing all the statistical data that I had learned about
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  neuropsychology. And I completely rewired my
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  brain for a different life and I've never gone back.
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  So what are those steps that people can take?
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  I mean, if they're stuck in this negative loop of negativity, I
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  actually posted something. It was just like stop
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  complaining. If you are just complaining
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  everyday, you're being in this victim mindset.
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  You're just going to keep attracting that exact thing that
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  you're resisting. And so like, what's an easy way
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  for people to 1st gain the awareness?
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  Yeah, that they're living in this negative loop and they're
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  not manifesting the things that they want.
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  They're actually manifesting the because you're manifesting
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  whether you think you are, you think you aren't, right?
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  Just most people are manifesting the things that they don't want.
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  It's like, what's that first step where people can get aware
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  of it and start to shift and transition into manifesting what
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  they actually want? Yeah.
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  So first thing is guiding people.
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  As a mentor, it's my job to gently guide people into the
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  awareness, like you said, that we're all manifesting 24, seven.
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  It's not something you can turn on or turn off.
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  So if someone comes to me and they say, oh, I've never
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  manifested anything in my life, it's my job to gently guide them
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  into the awareness that their external reality is a reflection
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  of their internal subconscious and neurological beliefs.
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  Now these beliefs are running on autopilot in the background 24/7
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  and most of us don't know it. So we've unconsciously
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  manifested a reality that we do not desire.
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  So it's guiding them into the awareness of what is that
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  childhood subconscious and neurological programming that's
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  running in the background. And when I sit down with people,
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  we do an exercise about uncovering their internal money
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  blueprint and, and they have no idea why they've manifested, say
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  for an example, a financial reality that's undesirable.
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  And then I guide them into the awareness of, oh, well, what did
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  your parents and grandparents and caretaker say about money
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  growing up? And most people have that
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  negative internal paradigm of money doesn't grow on trees,
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  Money's hard to come by. I'll never be wealthy.
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  It's not in the cards for me. And that paradigm has been for
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  all these decades, what's been creating their external reality.
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  But they have no clue. They're unaware of the fact that
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  that subconscious programming is creating their external reality.
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  So it's my job to guide you into the awareness that yes, you have
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  manifested everything in your life, your relationships, the
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  quality of your physical health, your financial situation.
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  But for most people, they've unconsciously at no fault of
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  their own, manifested a reality that they do not desire.
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  So it's becoming aware of that internal programming and then
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  taking some aligned science back steps to, you know, elevate
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  their level of consciousness out of the scarcity, the lack, the
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  criticism. But anybody can do it, no matter
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  what you've been through in the past.
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  We have the statistical data to prove that you can rewire your
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  brain, which is something I want to ask about on your journey as
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  well. But yeah, would love to hop into
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  that a little bit more. But for my audience who doesn't
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  know about your journey as well, we can all see how successful
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  that you are today, which is incredible.
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  You're a huge inspiration. But I want to know selfishly for
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  myself, but I know this would benefit my audience as well.
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  Take me back. Like as a child, I knew very
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  early on that I would have a big life again.
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  I didn't know what Ave. that would come through.
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  As a child, did you always know that you were destined for
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  greatness and success? And if so, how and when did you
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  know that? It didn't sound that pretty.
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  It was like I am destined for greatness and success.
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  It was more like I don't want to live this life and there's no
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  way I'm going to live this life and I will do whatever it takes
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  to death to not live this life and to live a different life.
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  So was it a rough upbringing, would you say?
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  Yeah, yeah, I struggle. I struggled a lot internally.
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  And, you know, my, my parents did the best they could.
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  I love them very much. Yeah.
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  But it was a it was a challenging upbringing we had.
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  We did not have money. And so it was just a lot of
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  financial strain constantly, which is why, you know, now I I
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  sell money and I'm in the capital markets and all these
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  things. It's funny how those things
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  manifest. Yeah.
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  But we just didn't have money. And the answer was always we
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  don't have enough. We can't afford it.
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  We don't have, you know, we can't get that.
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  We can't do that and it was a very toxic and chaotic
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  environment of very high frequency energy and not on the
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  good side. You know, like anger.
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  Yep, Yep. So low, low vibrational energy,
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  anger, rage, anxiety, fear, scarcity, all of those things.
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  And then paired with my, one of my brothers was just very
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  challenged anger issues and was very hard on me.
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  So there was just a lot of those situations.
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  But from an early age, I was like, I was fortunate to meet
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  when I was seven years old, I was fortunate to meet a very
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  wealthy family. And not only were they wealthy,
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  but they were happy, you know, so they had love.
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  So that rewired your brain that money does not necessarily equal
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  more money, more problems. They had the happiness and the
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  joy attached. To it well, so it actually wired
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  my brain to something that also to a point served me, but to a
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  point didn't serve me any longer was money equaled happiness,
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  right? And so I was 7 years old and I
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  said, oh, money equals happiness.
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  So how do I get as much money as I possibly can so I can be happy
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  and we don't have money and we're not happy.
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  So money not having money equals we're not happy, right.
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  And so today money is a huge part of life.
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  Like if you don't, it's the way the world works assets, right,
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  the transfer of value, whether it's the dollar or gold or real
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  estate or whatever, but it's it's money, let's call it money.
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  We need it to be able to have time, freedom and the ability to
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  make an impact to serve others and do all these things.
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  And so it's so important but money in itself does not equal
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  happiness. Money can buy a lot of things,
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  including time, including resources, including materials
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  that bring happiness. But there's a deeper level to
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  that. And that's where a lot of the
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  alignment and the energy and the internal healing comes in that I
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  had to go through when I became a millionaire and realized I'm
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  still unhappy, right? And so, but when, when I could
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  finally combine the money and the wealth and the success with
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  the internal healing and connection and love for myself
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  and for others, that's where I was finally able to see like, Oh
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  my God, life actually is beautiful.
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  And it actually can be beautiful.
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  And I actually did create this. And like, I didn't, wasn't
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  handed money, I wasn't handed any special connections.
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  I wasn't given a playbook or a manual.
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  And I was, you know, smoking weed everyday and had insomnia
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  and would think about suicide every night for years of, of my
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  life. And so it was just a testament.
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  So once I was able to see the amount of joy that I'm able to
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  have now while taking on risks and pressure and like doing hard
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  things everyday, it makes me want to share that with everyone
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  else in the world because I know what it's like to suffer day
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  after day after day. But I was creating my own
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  suffering. Yeah, that's something you
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  mentioned before too, that I feel is so imperative to talk
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  about, especially in my work in manifestation and energy.
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  A lot of terms get thrown around like frequency and energy.
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  A term that I don't hear talked about very often is confirmation
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  bias. And what that states is that
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  your brain is always trying to prove you right.
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  So whatever you say or internally affirm or believe
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  about yourself, your brain is automatically going to scan for
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  evidence. It's going to bring in people
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  and situations and circumstances to validate your claim because
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  your brain only has two jobs to keep you safe and to prove you
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  right. So internally, what you were
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  saying when you're young at, you know, seven years old, when our
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  parents are telling us wealth is on the cards for us, we'll never
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  be wealthy. That type of lifestyle is not
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  for us. Just be grateful with what you
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  have when you internally affirm and believe that you're going to
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  find evidence of that, you know, throughout your upbringing.
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  And I don't know if you can relate, something that I have
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  kind of looked back on as I've gotten older with the lens of
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  compassion is I now give my parents so much grace because
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  they were running an old internal paradigm of scarcity
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  and lack that they didn't even know they had.
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  You know, those beliefs have been passed down sometimes from
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  decades and generations. So I'm not sure if you could
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  say, but within your upbringing, if your parents were, you know,
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  they loved you and supportive, but they probably had their own
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  internal paradigm of lack, which could you say got put onto you
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  unconsciously. Oh, 1,000,000% And I give them
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  so much grace too now because they were doing the best they
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  could, just like all of our parents, doing the best, just
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  like us, right? We're doing the best we could
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  with what we have and with the knowledge that we've, we, you
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  know, we were equipped with. And also life has not been easy.
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  Like the world has not been this abundant world of resources for
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  everyone. And like now with this age of
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  AI, Elon Musk is now saying that, you know, pretty soon
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  they'll be abundance for everybody and anybody could be
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  everyone will be wealthy. But historically it's been
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  survival. Like it's scarcity was in our
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  blood. It was in our survival.
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  We we were programmed for scarcity so we could survive.
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  And so there there's to no fault of anybody, right?
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  And our parents, you know, in the generation that we're in
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  now, most of our parents didn't have massive abundance.
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  There was some that were starting to build real wealth
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  and that type of thing. But the majority of people, they
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  didn't have that. And so it's so normal.
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  And when we can change our story and change our paradigm and be,
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  you know, I try to, I understand everything that my parents went
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  through and it was passed down from their parents.
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  And it just, you know, racial trauma, they call it, right.
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  Is it just goes from one generation to the next until
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  there's that transformational character in the family that
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  really changes it and then starts to rewire the
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  subconscious because your nervous system starts forming
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  like in the womb. Yeah.
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  I was working with an energy healer.
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  She's a Chinese frequency medicine healer.
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  I don't even know I work. With fascinating, Yeah.
• 17:14
  But she's like, Oh yeah, you, you got this.
• 17:16
  Like in the womb. Like, how was the environment in
• 17:18
  the womb? Like what was your mom thinking
• 17:20
  or doing or. However, like regulated or
• 17:22
  dysregulated a pregnant woman is, it transfers into the baby
• 17:25
  like, it's insane. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
• 17:28
  So it's no surprise why we have these things.
• 17:30
  But the nice thing is if we if we have the awareness and the
• 17:33
  knowledge and we can understand how to rewire it, we can rewire
• 17:37
  it and we're a completely reborn person.
• 17:40
  Yeah, I always take tell my students it only takes one
• 17:42
  person to be the generational curse breaker because most
• 17:44
  people think I'm hardwired like this.
• 17:46
  But I try to explain just from a different perspective.
• 17:48
  You have to think of your subconscious brain like a
• 17:50
  computer system, but you are the programmer.
• 17:53
  So say that you're like sitting on the couch and you're playing
• 17:55
  a video game up on a big screen at your house, right?
• 17:57
  Your character say it's like Super Mario in the video game.
• 18:00
  He's not going to jump up levels or go get coins unless you on
• 18:03
  your couch on the controller, press the button.
• 18:06
  So it's the same way. The moment you feed your brain
• 18:08
  new analytical data, you will be able to radically transform the
• 18:11
  external. But the change starts
• 18:13
  internally. And I know we were mentioning
• 18:15
  earlier a little bit about biblical Scripture, but there's
• 18:17
  a scripture that says as within, so without and so many people,
• 18:20
  they're so focused on the external, which I want to hear
• 18:23
  your story about everything you've built with your business
• 18:25
  externally. But it I believe it fully stems
• 18:28
  from the identity and the internal energetic vibration
• 18:30
  which is so important, which tends to be overlooked.
• 18:33
  Oh, completely. Yeah.
• 18:35
  Because people think that if they accomplish something, they
• 18:39
  will feel better, right? If I get this, then I'll feel
• 18:43
  different. And we all know, all of us
• 18:45
  overachievers that start to accomplish things over and over.
• 18:48
  We all know that the high wears off really quick and then the
• 18:52
  anxiety and the not feeling good inside is even greater than it
• 18:56
  was before we had the thing generally, right, because it's
• 18:58
  more pressure, more things we have to create more unanswered
• 19:01
  questions, more I don't know how to do this and all the things
• 19:05
  and those feelings of emptiness. And so that's when I hired that
• 19:08
  first energetic intelligence coach when I was 25 years old,
• 19:11
  who disguised himself as a business coach.
• 19:13
  I would have never hired an energetic intelligence.
• 19:15
  Coach. But maybe in retrospect, you
• 19:17
  needed it. No, it was everything I needed,
• 19:19
  yeah. Yeah, and you didn't even know
• 19:20
  it. Right.
• 19:21
  It's sell them what they want, give them what they need, yes,
• 19:24
  and that's what he did. With me, did that actually start
• 19:27
  off, Obviously you've been killing it externally in
• 19:28
  business for so long, but were you always into personal growth
• 19:32
  and development or was that kind of your introduction into taking
• 19:34
  a deeper look? That was my introduction.
• 19:36
  Okay, and that was how many years ago?
• 19:39
  I was 25 S almost 5. I'm almost 30.
• 19:41
  Almost five years ago, OK. And now, would you
• 19:43
  wholeheartedly say that the internal energetic work and
• 19:47
  personal growth is just as important as those external
• 19:49
  action steps? Oh, 100%.
• 19:52
  Yep. Yeah.
• 19:53
  Because I used to be the one that was like, I don't have time
• 19:55
  for this. Yeah, I don't have time to read
• 19:57
  a book on feelings. Yeah, we're busy.
• 19:59
  We got to go. Yeah, but everything in my
• 20:03
  business exponentially started compounding once I fixed the
• 20:08
  inner stuff inside of me. And not only did it compound,
• 20:11
  but I actually have fun doing it.
• 20:13
  I actually want to do it every day A. 100%, I love that.
• 20:17
  Well, I want to know as well. I know you mentioned you had a
• 20:19
  pretty challenging childhood to now funding a firm that
• 20:22
  originated $100 million in commercial real estate in just
• 20:25
  its first five months. That's insane what internal
• 20:29
  shifts had to happen for those external results to go ahead and
• 20:32
  flow. So just getting really, really
• 20:35
  aligned with my true north and why I was doing the things that
• 20:39
  I was doing and the intention behind it.
• 20:41
  So I no longer was trying to build a company because I was
• 20:45
  afraid of not having anything or because I was trying to prove to
• 20:49
  the world or to myself that I could do it.
• 20:51
  Or, you know, prove to my brother who you know, said I
• 20:54
  would never amount to anything. That like I'll show you.
• 20:57
  Right, right. But now it's like I want to
• 21:00
  create. I have a gift and a love and a
• 21:02
  passion for entrepreneurship and for creation and for teaching
• 21:06
  others and helping others and learning myself and growing and
• 21:10
  like who can I create with? And we can all win together and
• 21:14
  grow something amazing together and have an incredible impact.
• 21:16
  And so losing the like first was getting my energy aligned, which
• 21:20
  was through my coach, which started with energy audits.
• 21:23
  Having the everything starts with awareness.
• 21:25
  So having the awareness of what made me feel expansive and what
• 21:29
  made me feel contracted, what fueled me and what drained me,
• 21:32
  just getting rid of the things that drain me.
• 21:34
  Like it's not that. Hard.
• 21:35
  And you can feel it in your body when something's contracting you
• 21:38
  and you're like, I don't want to do this.
• 21:39
  You know you're in a misalignment, right?
• 21:41
  Yeah. And a lot more entrepreneurs
• 21:42
  need to come to the awareness of that, that it exists and then
• 21:45
  see which way they're feeling. But a lot of times we're in this
• 21:48
  David Goggins style society, right?
• 21:49
  Alex Harmozi, Love them. There's a time and place for
• 21:51
  both, but it's very wake up at 3:00 AM and grind and hustle.
• 21:54
  And if you negate the personal growth and internal aspect, I
• 21:58
  feel that there's going to be a massive misalignment in the
• 22:01
  future if you don't address that.
• 22:02
  Yeah, well, that was The thing is like, I was just telling you,
• 22:05
  you know, not this isn't all the time.
• 22:07
  I have some balance, but I work 16 hour days pretty frequently,
• 22:11
  you know, 6-7 days a week. Yeah.
• 22:12
  But it's not this wake up and grind and suffer through.
• 22:15
  It's like, I love it. Yeah.
• 22:16
  Like there's nothing else that I want to be doing.
• 22:18
  I'm choosing to do this. And yes, it does get exhausting.
• 22:21
  And I have to check myself, like, OK, settle down, take a
• 22:24
  break, Let's go to the beach for a couple of days.
• 22:26
  Yeah. But I just love.
• 22:27
  It's like this pole. Tony Robbins talks about this
• 22:29
  pole motivation. Like I'm pulled out of bed every
• 22:31
  day and I just have to go create the things that I'm creating and
• 22:35
  I actually enjoy it. And so the 16 hours or the 12
• 22:38
  hours or the 20 hours sometimes like that amount of time is
• 22:42
  doing things that I actually love to do where I'm in my Green
• 22:46
  Zone, things that make me feel expansive because I could never
• 22:49
  work that hard, that long, that consistently if I was doing
• 22:52
  things that drain me every day. No, we can't.
• 22:54
  I believe that when you are existing within the energetic
• 22:57
  vibration of your passion, nothing can go wrong.
• 22:59
  So you're going to have some shorter days, you're going to
• 23:01
  have some longer days. But like we we talked about when
• 23:03
  you're executing those steps out of desperation or begging or
• 23:06
  chasing, it's very different from doing it when you're in
• 23:08
  full alignment. Same here.
• 23:10
  When I have a project that I'm doing that I'm in love with and
• 23:11
  I'm so excited about. Like I'm planning a live event
• 23:14
  and I cannot wait. I'll work 20 hours a day on that
• 23:17
  and I'll get minimal sleep that night because I'm so happy.
• 23:19
  And I feel incomplete alignment with what I'm doing, which I
• 23:22
  think is so important. And that's the difference,
• 23:24
  right, is manifestation is not this thing of I'm just going to
• 23:29
  do a mind movie, which I love Joe Dispenza.
• 23:31
  I do mind movies, of course, but I'm just going to meditate and
• 23:34
  picture the things I want. And then I'm just going to lay
• 23:36
  in bed all day and watch SpongeBob.
• 23:38
  You have to act. You have to be intentional about
• 23:41
  the things that you're going to create, but you have to know
• 23:45
  where you're going because if you don't know where you're
• 23:47
  going, any road will get you nowhere, right?
• 23:49
  And so that's the first question I ask in interviews is what are
• 23:53
  your goals over the next five years?
• 23:55
  And if they can't answer me, you're not a fit for this
• 23:57
  company because if you don't know where you're going, I'm not
• 24:01
  going to be able to help you get there.
• 24:02
  And I want to help you get there, right.
• 24:04
  And, and I just think it's the same thing for us.
• 24:07
  Like we have to know where we're going, what we're going to
• 24:08
  create it, but not be so tied to the outcome where you get
• 24:12
  depressed or emotional of, Oh, it didn't look just like this or
• 24:15
  I didn't hit this number or, you know, I changed my company to
• 24:19
  something else or this company's not working out and I don't want
• 24:21
  to let it go. Whatever.
• 24:23
  Not being a tie to the outcome, but being a tie tied, being
• 24:26
  attached to the mission and the intention behind why you're
• 24:29
  doing the things you're doing and the impact that you want to
• 24:31
  have. Because when you can have that,
• 24:33
  then it can the vehicle can change. 100% I tell my students
• 24:37
  all the time who are manifesting love or abundance to keep their
• 24:40
  eyes and heart and mind open because a lot of times your
• 24:42
  blessing will throw in will flow in.
• 24:44
  Excuse me from an Ave. that your brain can't even conceptualize.
• 24:47
  People will think, oh, this money or this funding is coming
• 24:50
  from this one source, when in reality the universe has 20
• 24:52
  other sources lined up for you. But if you're energetically
• 24:55
  blocked and you're not open for it coming in for your highest
• 24:58
  good, you could actually miss your blessing.
• 24:59
  Yeah, Oh, it's so true. When I was, you know, because I
• 25:02
  I finance commercial real estate and real estate investments.
• 25:06
  My, my company does and I've a lot of our clients are rate
• 25:11
  fundraising all the time. They're raising investments like
• 25:13
  people like yourself. They have money, they have
• 25:14
  wealth, they want to invest, but they're focused on their
• 25:17
  business so they can invest passively into real estate
• 25:19
  developments or yeah, via projects and things like that.
• 25:22
  And so I've been looking at a couple of different funds to
• 25:26
  align with on like partnering with and being a general partner
• 25:30
  in these funds with operators that I really believe in and
• 25:32
  trust. And that I would be able to put
• 25:34
  my own money in and also guide other people who are looking to
• 25:37
  invest and, and trust, you know, to advise, not advise, but make
• 25:41
  the connection for them to do the same.
• 25:42
  Yeah. And like, as soon as I made a
• 25:45
  decision, this is the power of manifestation.
• 25:47
  There's a quote that says when you make a commitment, the
• 25:50
  universe conspires to assist you.
• 25:52
  And as soon as I made a decision of like, OK, I'm going to
• 25:55
  partner on this fund. I believe in this.
• 25:57
  I'm all in on this. Literally, I got 6 messages in,
• 26:03
  I think less than 48 hours of, hey, I'm looking to invest
• 26:07
  equity in a real estate deal. You know, do you have a good
• 26:10
  investment right now? And I'm just like, OK, I didn't
• 26:13
  reach out to one person. Yeah, right.
• 26:15
  But then all of a sudden, I made a commitment and God and the
• 26:18
  universe just started to inspire to assist me.
• 26:19
  And I didn't clear out any marketing.
• 26:21
  So that's like, you do the action because I'm always out
• 26:23
  there building relationships, talking about real estate,
• 26:26
  educating, like it is my business.
• 26:27
  So I'm doing the action. But then I also did the
• 26:29
  manifestation of this is what I want to create.
• 26:32
  This is a line with my true north.
• 26:33
  And then all of a sudden, these opportunities started rising.
• 26:36
  That was beneficial for all parties.
• 26:38
  Yeah, it's so true. And if I could kind of wrap up
• 26:40
  what you just said in a sentence or two, it's funny that you say
• 26:43
  I actually have such a quarrel with social media right now, the
• 26:47
  word manifestation. So many people tend to think
• 26:49
  like you said, oh, you just close your eyes and wish for
• 26:51
  $1,000,000 and poof, it appears. And that frustrates me to no end
• 26:55
  because manifestation is backed in biblical Scripture.
• 26:57
  It's backed in statistical data through neuroscience and people
• 27:01
  putting out a completely wrong perception and misinformation
• 27:04
  about it actually deters people from learning about something
• 27:06
  that could radically change their life.
• 27:08
  So in my definition, I tell people, manifestation is not
• 27:10
  some new age woo woo concept that's heavily rooted in
• 27:12
  mysticism. It is the execution process in
• 27:15
  which you create your reality. It is identity driven reality
• 27:18
  creation because whoever you believe that you are will
• 27:21
  manifest on the outside. And I have students who come to
• 27:23
  me all the time and they're like, oh, I'm affirming all day
• 27:25
  long that I'm a multi millionaire.
• 27:27
  But if internally you're holding an opposing energetic vibration
• 27:30
  and an opposing identity, so say that you're shouting all day
• 27:33
  long, I'm a multi millionaire to try to convince yourself that
• 27:35
  you have the money, but internally you're still
• 27:37
  operating from the vibration of lack.
• 27:39
  The lack is what's going to manifest.
• 27:41
  So I tell my students, you'll never be able to out manifest
• 27:43
  who you believe that you are. And like even the current
• 27:46
  success that I've had, the relationships that I've built,
• 27:48
  it was not able to collapse into matter and come into fruition
• 27:51
  until I elevated my identity. I did all the work, I did all
• 27:54
  the techniques. When I first learned about
• 27:56
  manifestation, I would do these methods.
• 27:58
  It sounds so funny now looking back where you script out
• 28:01
  something like 33 times for 33 days for three months.
• 28:04
  But it's like that was never going to allow me to out
• 28:07
  manifest the fact that I still believed I was a broke single
• 28:09
  mom. My identity was not yet aligned
• 28:11
  with the wealth and the community building and
• 28:14
  everything that I currently possess now.
• 28:16
  And it would have never came in if I didn't buckle down and do
• 28:18
  the internal work. So yes, we can do like fun
• 28:21
  external things and affirmations.
• 28:22
  And I have some science backed audio tracks that I listen to.
• 28:25
  Every tangible step that I give my is back to neuroscience.
• 28:28
  So that's something about my brand is really just
• 28:30
  demystifying manifestation. I'll never tell you to do some
• 28:33
  crazy 20 hour manifestation routine and shout affirmations
• 28:37
  because your external reality, regardless of what you do, it's
• 28:40
  a reflection of who you believe that you are.
• 28:42
  And until I started believing I am worthy and deserving and
• 28:46
  capable of living a beautiful life, that's when it flew in.
• 28:49
  It didn't flow in when I was like shouting out something 77
• 28:52
  times for seven days, right? Because it all comes back to who
• 28:55
  you believe that you are. So that's something that I
• 28:57
  wanted to kind of ask you as well along your journey.
• 28:59
  I know you mentioned when you were younger, your parents had
• 29:02
  kind of unconsciously, at no fault of their own, put that
• 29:04
  paradigm of scarcity and lack on to you.
• 29:06
  What do you think is the, number one, looking back, limiting
• 29:10
  belief that you had or something that held you back that was
• 29:13
  opposing to your desires that maybe your parents put on to you
• 29:15
  or that you just developed when you were younger, but you no
• 29:17
  longer believe right now? Or was there any like,
• 29:19
  repetitive dialogue around money that your parents told you that
• 29:22
  you had to? Overcome.
• 29:25
  Trying to decide, but it was just that money doesn't grow on
• 29:29
  trees and it's a very scarce resource and we don't have it.
• 29:32
  And so guys, still some of my friends and people that are
• 29:35
  close to me still make fun of me because sometimes I'm like,
• 29:37
  you're rationally cheap with things like I'll go blow, you
• 29:40
  know, way too much money on something not blow.
• 29:43
  But if it's something that I believe is an investment, like a
• 29:45
  mastermind, I'm like 100,000 write a check, you know, but
• 29:49
  then I'll be like, like, I don't wanna or, you know, turn the OR
• 29:54
  shut the fridge. Yeah, you know, shut the fridge.
• 29:56
  That's so, yeah. Yeah, cuz my dad would always
• 29:59
  like don't leave the fridge. I would.
• 30:00
  Dollar bills are flying out the window.
• 30:02
  It's ingrained in there for sure.
• 30:03
  Yeah. So these like little tiny things
• 30:05
  that are so minuscule or like turning the lights off or
• 30:09
  running the AC, you know, at a higher temperature in the summer
• 30:12
  or whatever. Yeah.
• 30:14
  And so, so that was really the the thing that stuck with me
• 30:17
  that I still catch myself. Yeah.
• 30:19
  And and then beyond that, it's just like the I am unworthy, you
• 30:22
  know, I think I still grapple with that because I've gotten a
• 30:27
  lot better now, but it's just like now I understand I am
• 30:32
  worthy. The old beliefs and the thoughts
• 30:34
  still come up of like, oh, you're not good enough or you're
• 30:36
  not smart enough or you're not capable enough or you know how?
• 30:41
  Cuz I'll say things is like, I want to help a billion people.
• 30:43
  I want to create a billion dollars of wealth and I want to
• 30:46
  share that with other people like these things.
• 30:48
  But then the thoughts creep up was like, yeah, right.
• 30:50
  You know, like you're never going to do that.
• 30:52
  But even if I don't, I'm probably going to do more than
• 30:55
  if I was just like, oh, I'm not going to create anything because
• 30:58
  I can't do it right. And so I think, yeah, I think
• 31:01
  that that creeps up is the the self doubt here and there, but
• 31:06
  it's doesn't creep up enough to stop me because I know, I know
• 31:11
  everything. Great.
• 31:12
  Like a year and a half ago, I was terrified of being on
• 31:15
  camera. OK.
• 31:16
  And Robert Kiyosaki pushed me to start the podcast.
• 31:19
  He said, I'll be your first guest.
• 31:20
  OK, Well, I can't say you. Can't say no.
• 31:23
  Yeah, and so, but you could have never caught me dead on.
• 31:26
  Camera and now you're an absolute natural.
• 31:28
  Oh, thank you. Yeah, and it's because your
• 31:30
  brain rewires through repetition.
• 31:31
  Most people don't know that. They fear the unknown, not
• 31:34
  because it's not achievable, but because it's not familiar yet to
• 31:37
  their nervous system. So if you're now 100 episodes
• 31:39
  in, it makes sense that you feel more comfortable than ever.
• 31:41
  Yeah. And to kind of riff off what you
• 31:43
  said before too, not to like Coach in any way, obviously
• 31:45
  you're incredible. But what you mentioned, it's so
• 31:48
  common, so many people when they come up against a new goal or a
• 31:50
  new arena in life, those external thoughts start to come
• 31:53
  in and they'll say, who are you to create this?
• 31:55
  You could never do that. Just stay small.
• 31:57
  That goal is not possible for you.
• 31:59
  And even though you've attained so much success in life, I
• 32:01
  applaud you for being transparent about the fact that
• 32:03
  those thoughts still come in. And what I tell my students is
• 32:06
  those thoughts are not the truth.
• 32:07
  They are simply a neurological echo of your childhood
• 32:09
  programming. So what you want to do when
• 32:11
  those thoughts come in is remind yourself, OK, it's OK that
• 32:14
  you're here. I know why you're here.
• 32:15
  You're a neurological echo of my childhood programming, of
• 32:18
  scarcity and criticism and lack. But I'm not going to choose to
• 32:21
  believe you. I'm not going to embody you if
• 32:23
  the thought doesn't align with where you're going.
• 32:25
  I like to imagine each thought is coming in.
• 32:27
  Like in my mind, it's like a riverbed going downstream and
• 32:30
  each thought comes in on a Lily pad.
• 32:31
  And if the, if the thought does not align with my dream life, I
• 32:35
  don't shove it down. I don't push it away.
• 32:36
  I don't act like it's not there. That's actually the worst thing
• 32:38
  you can do. I just let the Lily pad just go
• 32:41
  on down the river. I don't grab out and pull it and
• 32:44
  make it a part of my home. I just let it pass on through.
• 32:46
  Because no matter how much internal work that you've done,
• 32:48
  we have, what is it like 72,000 thoughts a day?
• 32:51
  So you're going to have those old subconscious and
• 32:53
  neurological echoes coming in. Even myself, when I've set my
• 32:56
  goal on, you know, the next thing in business or whatever, I
• 32:58
  always have something come up like you do.
• 33:00
  That's like, who are you to do that?
• 33:01
  I just had a huge speaking event and before I found myself
• 33:04
  getting really nervous. But on paper I've like, I've
• 33:06
  attained plenty of success. I'm going to kill this.
• 33:08
  But you still have that thought come in.
• 33:09
  That's like, who are you to do this?
• 33:11
  What if you fail? What if you mumble?
• 33:12
  What if you mess up? And you just have to remind
• 33:14
  yourself that that's not who I am.
• 33:16
  I'm not going to believe it. I'm not going to embody it.
• 33:18
  That's simply a neurological echo of the past.
• 33:21
  And then you choose a a different path.
• 33:22
  But no matter how successful you've become, even Robert, I'm
• 33:24
  sure at times he has a thought come in that doesn't align with
• 33:27
  his dream life or where he's going.
• 33:29
  Nothing's wrong with you. That's simply a neurological
• 33:31
  echo of your biological programming.
• 33:33
  It's you've done nothing wrong. That's how we've been hardwired
• 33:36
  for hundreds of years. So it's going to take that time
• 33:39
  and effort and awareness to step in and rewire it.
• 33:41
  But even if we both attain hundreds more millions of
• 33:44
  dollars, I think the thoughts are still going to be there.
• 33:46
  But it's just what do you do with them?
• 33:48
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:48
  And that's what, when I was learning meditation, it was just
• 33:53
  that thing. It was I think I studied a lot.
• 33:55
  I think it was Joe Dispenza that said this, but he said it's not.
• 33:58
  We're all taught. I think therefore I am, but it's
• 34:01
  incorrect. It's I am, therefore I think.
• 34:05
  And so being able to separate you, your I am, your soul, your
• 34:10
  being from your thoughts. Yep.
• 34:13
  And understanding, just like you said, like the Lily pad.
• 34:16
  Yeah. You can observe a thought that
• 34:18
  goes through your head and not. And because it starts with a
• 34:21
  thought and then it turns into an emotion.
• 34:23
  And then the emotion turns into an action and then that turns
• 34:26
  into reality. Yeah, right.
• 34:27
  And so if you catch it at the thought, which which is why
• 34:30
  awareness is such a big thing, because so many of us, we don't
• 34:32
  even have awareness. We're operating off of our
• 34:35
  subconscious beliefs and our programming.
• 34:38
  Yep. And we're not intentionally
• 34:40
  creating anything. Yeah, we're autopilot.
• 34:43
  Yep, exactly. But without your awareness, for
• 34:45
  so many people, they're unconsciously manifesting, as we
• 34:48
  mentioned, a reality that they don't desire because they're
• 34:50
  unaware that the programming is even there.
• 34:52
  So I know something great for your viewers too as well if
• 34:54
  they're listening and they're like, what even is my internal
• 34:56
  subconscious programming? What does that mean?
• 34:58
  I would say get out a pen and a paper and write down everything
• 35:01
  in whatever key areas that you are desiring a change in your
• 35:04
  life. So for most people, my students
• 35:05
  will come to me and they want to manifest love and money.
• 35:08
  I'm sure for your clients, it's mostly money, abundance,
• 35:10
  generational wealth. Write down what are the top five
• 35:13
  or top 10 things I was taught with my influences growing up.
• 35:16
  What did your parents say at the dinner table around money and
• 35:19
  love and wealth? Maybe if your parents were in a
• 35:21
  toxic relationship, you learned that love was not unconditional.
• 35:24
  It came with toxicity. It came with anger, depression,
• 35:27
  criticism, and really connect those puzzle pieces mentally of
• 35:30
  what you were taught and what was repetitive around you in
• 35:32
  childhood. And you'll be able to put that
• 35:34
  mental picture together and then really have that blueprint of
• 35:38
  how you've created your reality even though it's been
• 35:39
  unconscious in the background. The first step to anything is
• 35:42
  awareness and just guiding you to the fact of how you actually
• 35:45
  have created that reality. And then what do you do from
• 35:47
  there? Like once you have the awareness
• 35:51
  right in your, you, you start to say, like when I was getting
• 35:55
  over my eating disorder that I had for many, many years, I, my
• 35:59
  eating coach, I have a coach for everything, but my eating coach,
• 36:01
  I love it was like, OK, have the awareness of what your thoughts
• 36:05
  are when you look in the mirror. And I didn't even know I'd never
• 36:07
  paid attention to this before. But just like every time you
• 36:09
  look in the mirror, pay attention.
• 36:10
  And then I would look in the mirror and I would realize that
• 36:12
  I would be like, you're ugly, you're fat, you're like
• 36:15
  whatever, right? Like negative thoughts.
• 36:17
  And then she's like, OK. And then when you, when you,
• 36:20
  when you have the awareness that you think that instead of
• 36:23
  getting upset and turning into emotion of I'm depressed or I
• 36:26
  hate myself or I'm just going to stay in bed and not go out
• 36:30
  because I am insecure, whatever. Just change it, acknowledge it,
• 36:35
  love it, No big deal. Don't get emotional about it.
• 36:38
  And then just say the Hawaiian thing.
• 36:40
  It was just like, I love you. Yeah, Hono, hono, I love you.
• 36:43
  I'm sorry, Please forgive me. Thank you.
• 36:44
  And just give yourself a hug. And I thought it was so silly,
• 36:47
  but it was so it was so amazing because now it became a trigger
• 36:51
  every time I looked in the mirror.
• 36:53
  It ultimately ended up becoming I love you.
• 36:54
  I'm sorry, please. So like even now when I wake up,
• 36:56
  because I did have that so much emotional.
• 36:58
  Yeah, I. Love that I did it so much.
• 37:00
  I get in the mirror in the morning and I'm just like, I
• 37:02
  love you. I'm sorry.
• 37:04
  Thank you. And it rewired my brain and now
• 37:07
  I actually have that compassion for myself.
• 37:09
  And then now those, you know, urges and the eating disorders
• 37:13
  gone because I healed through that and rewired my brain.
• 37:15
  But like for this, I know this is an eating disorder show, but
• 37:19
  for you saying like to write down your subconscious
• 37:23
  programming or like, what in your life doesn't look like what
• 37:25
  you want it to look like? Yeah.
• 37:26
  Like from that point of awareness, what is the next step
• 37:29
  to be able to start to rewire the brain and start to actually
• 37:32
  manifest and create the things that you want?
• 37:33
  Yeah, So a few things. And first of all, it's so crazy
• 37:36
  hearing that. I applaud you for being so
• 37:37
  transparent about that because sitting across from you and even
• 37:39
  just the small amount that we've gotten to know each other, you
• 37:41
  are such a beautiful person. And it's crazy to hear that the
• 37:44
  things people internally struggle with is not something
• 37:47
  that someone externally could ever, whatever question or
• 37:50
  whatever, assume. So I applaud you for being so
• 37:52
  transparent about that. But yeah, I'm not sure if, you
• 37:55
  know, I love that you've done mirror work because we actually
• 37:57
  have statistical and neurological data to prove that
• 38:00
  when your own two eyes visually look back at your own reflection
• 38:03
  in a mirror, whether it's a little handheld makeup mirror or
• 38:05
  a full length mirror, that is actually a direct gateway into
• 38:08
  the subconscious mind. So rather than you just going
• 38:12
  out and about throughout your day or being in the car
• 38:13
  repeating affirmations, when you look into the mirror and you
• 38:16
  reaffirm who you are and what your beliefs are, you are
• 38:19
  recoding your identity in real time.
• 38:21
  So the best thing people can do rather than just, you know,
• 38:23
  shouting affirmations throughout the day is every morning and
• 38:25
  every night when your brain is in the Theta brain wave state,
• 38:28
  that is when your subconscious is highly reprogrammable and
• 38:31
  highly impressionable. So the first few minutes that
• 38:33
  you wake up and also the first, the last few minutes, excuse me,
• 38:36
  at the end of the night, most people call this the state akin
• 38:39
  to sleep. It's right before your brain
• 38:40
  drifts off into a deep REM sleep.
• 38:43
  Those are the top 2 times a day to rewire your brain because
• 38:46
  your critical analytical thinking mind is not running the
• 38:49
  show. So when you are just operating
• 38:51
  on a day-to-day basis, your brain is operating in the beta
• 38:53
  brain wave mode and your conscious mind takes up 10%
• 38:56
  capacity, but your subconscious takes up 90.
• 38:59
  And the subconscious is where you hold all your beliefs, your
• 39:01
  assumptions, your identity and essentially who you believe that
• 39:04
  you are. So if you could start every
• 39:05
  morning, just a small little tip for your listeners to walk up to
• 39:08
  the mirror and really look back right into your own reflection
• 39:11
  and affirm what you do desire. Even if you're not at the place
• 39:14
  yet to believe I'm a multimillionaire, I'm so
• 39:17
  beautiful. Things that you'll have
• 39:18
  resistance towards, you can at least start with the fact I am
• 39:21
  worthy. I am deserving, I am capable of
• 39:23
  attaining my dream life. I might not know every step or
• 39:26
  every Ave. or exactly what to execute, but you can start to
• 39:29
  set your intention on a better life and on that up level.
• 39:32
  And I know we were talking off camera a little bit earlier
• 39:34
  about the Bible and just God and everything kind of in addition.
• 39:37
  But I tell my students, this is not surface level motivation.
• 39:40
  This is in the Bible. Life and death are in the power
• 39:42
  of the tongue. And so many times we think we're
• 39:44
  just gossiping with our friends, right?
• 39:46
  And we're like, oh, I hate how I look today or I'll never be
• 39:48
  wealthy. Your brain is attaining that
• 39:51
  information and it's again, confirmation bias.
• 39:53
  It's looking for evidence to prove you right.
• 39:56
  So every time you say I will never be wealthy, you lose a
• 39:59
  client. You pop a tire on the way to
• 40:01
  work and unexpected expense comes in.
• 40:03
  Those things are not random. You have primed your brain to
• 40:06
  look for external evidence to validate the claims that you're
• 40:09
  telling it. So in the mornings, if you can
• 40:10
  wake up and get into the mirror and look right back into your
• 40:13
  reflection and start to recode your identity, I'm worthy, I'm
• 40:16
  deserving, I am abundant. And you know, at the beginning
• 40:19
  it does feel. A little, you know, maybe fake
• 40:21
  or phony. The first few days, the first
• 40:22
  few weeks, as you're doing it because you're recoding decades
• 40:25
  worth of internal programming, you're going to feel some
• 40:27
  resistance. But the brain rewires through
• 40:29
  repetition. So day after day after day and
• 40:32
  you will start to build those new neural pathways.
• 40:34
  Yeah, the the language is so, so, so important.
• 40:38
  When I was working with my energy coach, he said that same
• 40:40
  thing because I would say I suffer from this.
• 40:43
  I struggle with, therefore I am this right.
• 40:45
  And he's like, cut that out of your vocabulary immediately,
• 40:49
  immediately. And he said, if you want to
• 40:51
  reference it because you don't want to lie and you want to
• 40:52
  share a story, like historically, you know, I have
• 40:56
  experienced this or struggled with this, but now I do not like
• 41:00
  I'm doing this. And so there's that, that we
• 41:01
  don't want to lie to ourselves because that like lying about
• 41:05
  affirmations, just like you said, is to say something that
• 41:07
  you truly don't believe. This doesn't help anything but
• 41:10
  to affirm in the direction of what you really want and what
• 41:14
  she's like. Something as simple as I love
• 41:16
  you, you are worthy, you are capable, you're strong.
• 41:18
  Like those types of things that start to build that
• 41:20
  self-confidence and keeping those promises to yourself.
• 41:23
  Because those aren't a lie. You are worthy, you are
• 41:25
  deserving. And most people think they have
• 41:27
  to attain something externally to be worthy.
• 41:29
  I have to have the relationship. I have to have made $1,000,000
• 41:32
  and then I'll be worthy. When the truth is you're already
• 41:35
  innately worthy simply because you exist.
• 41:37
  And if you could start to believe that everything else
• 41:39
  externally that you desire, it will flow in.
• 41:42
  But it starts with, you know, the internal change.
• 41:44
  And I know you had mentioned this as well a little bit along
• 41:46
  your journey as well. You are known for sharing that
• 41:49
  you read Rich Dad, Poor Dad and how it deeply changed your
• 41:52
  personal relationship with money.
• 41:54
  I'm all about money mindset. So how did reading that really
• 41:58
  change your perception on attaining wealth when you came
• 42:00
  from that childhood with such a background rooted in scarcity?
• 42:03
  Yeah, because Robert Kiyosaki teaches that it's skills that
• 42:08
  make you rich, right? So skills make you rich, not
• 42:11
  money. Because when you have skills you
• 42:13
  can make money. And then when you have money,
• 42:16
  you then you can invest and you can build wealth and all of
• 42:18
  these things. But skills are the primary
• 42:20
  thing. And so I was like, OK, I can
• 42:21
  learn skills. He didn't say it's natural born
• 42:24
  talent that can make you rich. I get skills.
• 42:26
  So how do I learn skills in order to become rich?
• 42:28
  So that was the first thing. And then you can build, become
• 42:32
  rich and build wealth from buying assets.
• 42:34
  So acquire assets, not liabilities.
• 42:36
  And the way you acquire assets is by acquiring skills.
• 42:39
  And then you use your skills to acquire assets and then you let
• 42:42
  your assets pay for your liabilities so you can enjoy
• 42:44
  your life. And so it just gave me a lot of
• 42:47
  hope. Like, it gave me hope that I
• 42:50
  don't need to be given a silver spoon.
• 42:53
  I don't need to come from a different family.
• 42:54
  I don't need to go to a private school.
• 42:55
  I don't need to have a Harvard education to be able to create
• 42:59
  this life that I want to create. And it was just that lifeline of
• 43:01
  hope for me of like, if he can do it, he's telling me I can do
• 43:05
  it. Yeah.
• 43:05
  So I'm going to do it. And I'm going to, I'm going to
• 43:07
  do it at all costs and whatever it takes.
• 43:09
  And that's why it shifted for me so much.
• 43:11
  And then, you know, the fulfillment thing came later.
• 43:14
  And him and I talk about that inner battle and that inner
• 43:17
  journey. And you know, he has his demons
• 43:18
  and he's very open about his own and the fact that money in
• 43:22
  itself doesn't buy happiness. And so when that other lesson
• 43:27
  that was very important to me later on in life from from other
• 43:30
  teachers came about for that healing the inner stuff.
• 43:34
  Like I feel like to create the life that you want, you got to
• 43:39
  do the inner work. Like you have to do the child
• 43:42
  work. You have to forgive.
• 43:44
  You're freaking parents. So you have to forgive your
• 43:47
  siblings. You have to forgive your exes.
• 43:49
  Yeah. I mean, most importantly, you
• 43:51
  have to forgive yourself. Yourself 100.
• 43:53
  Percent. And if you can't do that, all
• 43:55
  this stuff becomes pretty mute because you're living with this
• 43:58
  soul tumor. Yeah, and it's a great way to
• 44:01
  put. It, you don't even know that
• 44:02
  it's in there and you're searching for all these answers
• 44:05
  like what's how can I do this tool?
• 44:07
  How can I hire this coach? How can I do this and this and
• 44:09
  this. And you, you're operating with a
• 44:12
  cancerous tumor in your body. And by the time you notice it's
• 44:16
  there, it's stage 4 Melanoma and you have two days to live.
• 44:19
  That's such. That's a crazy way to put it.
• 44:21
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:22
  In relation to that. So what would you say looking
• 44:24
  back, if you could talk to Hannah 15 years ago and she was
• 44:28
  struggling with everything that you've shared about what advice,
• 44:31
  knowing the life you've lived now, would you look back and
• 44:34
  tell her? Would you give her the blueprint
• 44:36
  to where you're at now? Would you let her figure it out?
• 44:38
  Would you say it's going to be OK?
• 44:39
  Would you advise her to not be as critical on herself?
• 44:42
  What do you think if you could, if 15 year old Hannah was right
• 44:45
  here? What do you think that you would
• 44:45
  tell her today, knowing everything you know about
• 44:47
  building a beautiful life now? Yeah, don't be so hard on
• 44:50
  yourself. Like it's just I was, I was
• 44:53
  really bad to myself, you know, very, very, very
• 44:56
  self-destructive. Yeah.
• 44:58
  But I'm grateful for everything. And the way it played out, I
• 45:01
  probably didn't have to suffer so much.
• 45:03
  Like I probably could have gotten through it a little bit
• 45:06
  easier or sought help and not try to do everything on my own
• 45:10
  and be so self reliant as I still struggle with that.
• 45:13
  Like I've become so self reliant that I just don't even, I don't
• 45:17
  even see the opportunity. Yeah.
• 45:20
  For a real deep connection, would you?
• 45:22
  Sometimes feel like your ambition is kind of
• 45:25
  overshadowing the connection that you could have because
• 45:27
  you're you're such a go getter. I know some men can be
• 45:30
  intimidated by that. Obviously you're confident now
• 45:32
  and who you are, but do you feel that that sometimes can over
• 45:35
  shadow maybe a genuine relationship that you know your
• 45:36
  heart wants? Yeah, the the ambition, the
• 45:39
  things that I want to create. Like there's so much I want to
• 45:41
  create and I always have been like that.
• 45:43
  And so, you know, there's always priorities.
• 45:46
  What are your priorities and time and and then just again
• 45:49
  that that I still have that subconscious programming of you
• 45:55
  really can't trust anybody like you can, but you got to be self
• 45:59
  reliant. You have to be able to take care
• 46:00
  of yourself, like don't rely on anyone too much.
• 46:02
  And so I know I have that and I was always like that growing up
• 46:07
  too. It just became such a it was
• 46:09
  such an isolating life because I refuse to lean on anybody.
• 46:15
  Yeah. And so now it's, you know, now
• 46:18
  we can't create a business without leaning on people Like
• 46:20
  we have to have our. Teams.
• 46:22
  Yeah, we have like everything's about relationships and I have
• 46:25
  so many incredible relationships.
• 46:26
  But like, you know, that relationship, that life partner
• 46:30
  relationship is one that it's still a little bit, I mean.
• 46:34
  I feel like that's very common with overachievers.
• 46:35
  A lot of times I had a very hard time even hiring my first few
• 46:38
  employees because I wanted to do everything.
• 46:40
  I wanted to make sure it was perfect.
• 46:42
  They're not going to know how to do it like me.
• 46:44
  And once I was able to share that vision with other people
• 46:46
  and they shared in the overall vision, Oh my God, I couldn't do
• 46:49
  it without them now. But I think it's hard to,
• 46:51
  especially at the beginning, kind of out.
• 46:53
  I know it's a romantic relationship, but outsource what
• 46:55
  you need to for the greater good because people like us who are
• 46:58
  very ambitious, we want to do it all alone.
• 47:00
  And I think sometimes that can be our downfall.
• 47:02
  Yeah. And I've been very good at
• 47:03
  delegating and building teams and doing all of that now in my
• 47:06
  business. But yeah, then it's just, I
• 47:09
  guess it's, I don't know. I guess it's just where's there,
• 47:13
  where's the space for like anything else in life outside of
• 47:18
  just work and just business. And that's where it gets a
• 47:20
  little bit blurry for me sometimes because I'm just like,
• 47:22
  so determined. Yeah.
• 47:24
  But I do understand that I might look up in 15 years and I'm
• 47:27
  like, oh, wow. Well, I built a great business,
• 47:29
  but I don't really have anybody in my life.
• 47:31
  Yeah. And I wonder if you again, not
• 47:33
  in any type of like educational coaching way, but give it to me.
• 47:36
  But I wonder if you like flip that thought, right, because
• 47:38
  confirmation bias, your brain believes what you tell it and
• 47:40
  not only believes it, but it will seek the evidence of it.
• 47:42
  So if every day you say I'm so single and I'm alone and I can't
• 47:45
  trust anybody, you're going to find more people that you and
• 47:48
  not trust to confirm the bias that you have.
• 47:50
  So what if you switched that thought and you started to
• 47:52
  think, what if there's a male version of me out there because
• 47:55
  there's the female version of you?
• 47:56
  There's got to be the male counterpart who's super
• 47:58
  ambitious and loving and kind. Maybe they've just been waiting
• 48:01
  for you to show up and they can't wait to love you, but
• 48:03
  they're energetically blocked because your internal bias is I
• 48:06
  can't trust anybody. So the men who you can't trust
• 48:08
  keep showing up. But if you were able to flip
• 48:10
  that and think, you know what? I don't know who it's going to
• 48:12
  be, what pathway they're going to come through, what
• 48:14
  connection. Maybe it's a friend of a friend,
• 48:16
  but it's never our job to micromanage how or when or where
• 48:19
  the thing comes in. It's our job to set the
• 48:21
  intention on what we desire. So getting super clear on the
• 48:24
  characteristics of that partner, how they're going to make you
• 48:26
  feel, the dates you want to go on, what you want to build
• 48:28
  together, and then how and who it is.
• 48:31
  Allow that to flow in through any Ave. possible.
• 48:33
  But really setting your intention on what exactly you
• 48:36
  desire, and more importantly believing it's possible because
• 48:38
  I'm sure you have some. I know exactly what I want, OK?
• 48:41
  I just don't know if it's real, you know?
• 48:44
  100% it is. So I like, I'd like to believe
• 48:47
  it is, but I do. Yeah.
• 48:48
  I just haven't met anybody. Do you have any relationships in
• 48:51
  your life that I mean, obviously social media these days, another
• 48:53
  quarrel with it. A lot of things can appear very
• 48:55
  fake. People can have beautiful
• 48:56
  relationships online, but they're fighting in the
• 48:58
  background. Do you have a genuine example in
• 49:00
  your life of people you know in person who truly do have a
• 49:03
  genuine bond and a good relationship you could look up
• 49:05
  to? Yeah, I never thought that a
• 49:07
  relationship could be healthy, like a, you know, with a
• 49:09
  significant other because yeah, I never saw it.
• 49:12
  OK. Growing up, you didn't have the
• 49:13
  physical proof. Right.
• 49:14
  I didn't have the physical. So for me growing up, I thought
• 49:17
  marriage equaled prison, pain, anger, not love, judgement like
• 49:24
  kids equaled burdens, expensive, annoying, causing trouble.
• 49:30
  So, you know, family wasn't exactly a positive word in my
• 49:34
  vocabulary. That's your whole paradigm right
• 49:36
  there, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so.
• 49:38
  And I'm acutely aware of that. But a few years ago, my best
• 49:42
  friend Macy, I post her on all my pictures, invited me to our
• 49:46
  family vacation. Now I go on all of them.
• 49:47
  I call them my adopted family. But that was the first time
• 49:51
  where I saw a family, and they're from Wisconsin, like a
• 49:53
  Midwest family, so cute. And I grew up in Scottsdale, so
• 49:56
  very superficial. And a lot, even wealthy families
• 49:59
  I saw like, didn't have great relationships.
• 50:02
  Yeah. And so anyway, but yeah, I was
• 50:06
  out on a boat in a lake in Wisconsin with her and her
• 50:08
  siblings and her parents were just laughing and loved each
• 50:11
  other so much. And I I actually cried.
• 50:14
  Like I had one little tear. I'm not a crier, but I had like
• 50:16
  1 little tear dropped down. I was like, Oh my gosh, like.
• 50:19
  It's out there. It's out there like it's real,
• 50:21
  you know? So I hold on.
• 50:22
  I see. I have hope that that's real,
• 50:24
  yeah. But I do think it's rare.
• 50:27
  Oh 100% and I can tell you first hand experience as well.
• 50:30
  Not to dive too far into my story, but just to give you a
• 50:32
  little ray of sunshine. I was a single mom with my son
• 50:35
  for 11 years and I recently just met my partner.
• 50:37
  We've only been together a year and a half, but like a man that
• 50:41
  I didn't even think existed. Total man of God, so kind, so
• 50:44
  supportive, wants to see me shine like not competitive like
• 50:47
  loves my son to death. And I had been through a few
• 50:50
  quote toxic relationships before that.
• 50:52
  We're looking back. I just needed to learn those
• 50:54
  lessons. But I just thought that was the
• 50:56
  only type of man that was out there did not even think this
• 50:58
  type of man existed. Like I wrote down what I wanted
• 51:01
  in a partner, kind, honest, empathetic, but I was like, oh,
• 51:04
  it's just only in the movies. Like it's just a dream.
• 51:06
  It's just a wish. And when I really set my
• 51:08
  intention on it and I started priming my brain to believe that
• 51:11
  I was worthy and deserving of that.
• 51:13
  And there was an energetic match out there for me.
• 51:15
  I met him like a year and a half ago and he's blown every
• 51:18
  expectation out of the water and just monetary aside, like the
• 51:21
  most supportive partner. And it is, it literally is like
• 51:24
  in the movies, like you, that totally exists in real life.
• 51:27
  Yes, it's rare, but I also believe that we attract in a
• 51:30
  carbon copy of who we are. So the fact that you are so
• 51:33
  ambitious and you're so kind and loving and empathetic, I feel
• 51:36
  like there's got to be, I know there's a male counterpart out
• 51:38
  there who's going to match what you have.
• 51:40
  There's got to be a. 100% there is.
• 51:42
  But when you start believing it, I feel like that's when it's
• 51:45
  going to flow in. Because if you have that
• 51:46
  internal blockage and limitation of, oh, it might be nice to have
• 51:49
  one day, but it just doesn't exist, the universe will prove
• 51:52
  back to you you're right. It just does not exist.
• 51:54
  You have to start believing it's out there somewhere and at the
• 51:56
  right time. It's gonna come in, right?
• 51:58
  Yeah, I believe it's out there. Yeah, I'm.
• 52:00
  I'm manifesting. Yeah, but I'm also OK if I stay
• 52:02
  alone forever, you know, it's. Like whatever, you know what
• 52:06
  manifesting is one of my talents.
• 52:07
  So I'm gonna I'm gonna put it out there for you.
• 52:09
  You. Know people say that when you
• 52:11
  are really happy and you don't need, you're not looking for a
• 52:14
  relationship and you're, you're super solid.
• 52:16
  Like that's when the right person comes and I'm like, I
• 52:19
  feel like it's the opposite. I feel like I'm so happy that
• 52:21
  I'm not like I don't, you know, since I've been so happy and so
• 52:27
  fulfilled and so energetically aligned and all that is how long
• 52:31
  I've been single. Like when I wasn't, I was in a
• 52:34
  relationship 100% of the time, like back-to-back to back.
• 52:37
  I wasn't single because I needed, I was like looking for
• 52:40
  it. And they weren't, you know, the
• 52:43
  best relationships, They everyone got a little bit better
• 52:46
  and I learned more and more. I was the common denominator in
• 52:49
  all of them. And I started to realize, OK,
• 52:50
  what what I don't want, what I do want in my life and creating
• 52:54
  that. But yeah, since it's almost like
• 52:56
  the more I've learned, see, and this is kind of the price in my
• 53:00
  opinion, and it's not really a price, but kind of the more
• 53:04
  conscious you become, the more successful you become, the more
• 53:08
  kind, the more aligned, the more like, the better you become as a
• 53:13
  human all around, the fewer there are people like you.
• 53:19
  Yeah. And so that's where it's kind of
• 53:22
  the price. And people would say like, oh,
• 53:23
  it's lonely at the top. And I don't want to say that
• 53:26
  because it's not about being at the top, but it's like as you
• 53:28
  elevate your consciousness, you realize that a lot of people are
• 53:32
  very unconscious. Yes, and have you heard of the
• 53:34
  quantum crumble or the quantum purge?
• 53:37
  OK, so this would be great for your audience too.
• 53:39
  I choose to believe in this concept and it is when you are
• 53:41
  on the journey of that rise in consciousness.
• 53:44
  So whatever you currently have in your life right now, you are
• 53:47
  an energetic match for. So the friendships, the quality
• 53:49
  of your physical health, the romantic relationship that
• 53:51
  you're in. But when you learn all this new
• 53:53
  beautiful education and you set your intention on an up level,
• 53:56
  you start your rise in consciousness and the people
• 53:58
  around you, the jobs and the relationships, if they're
• 54:00
  unwilling to rise with you, they have to fade away.
• 54:03
  So a lot of times people will come to me and they'll say, oh,
• 54:05
  I just set my intention on manifesting my first $1,000,000
• 54:08
  a year. But then I lost my job and I'm
• 54:10
  like, that's OK. You're on your rise in
• 54:11
  consciousness. God has another beautiful better
• 54:14
  job around the corner for you that you can't even your brain
• 54:16
  can't even conceptualize yet. But it's got more time off and
• 54:19
  more benefits or someone will say, yeah, I lost my best friend
• 54:21
  of 10 years. Obviously that's never the goal.
• 54:23
  You want people to rise with you.
• 54:24
  But I've had a few things kind of relationships as well, like
• 54:27
  fade out because I've been on this beautiful journey in my own
• 54:31
  personal rise in consciousness. But everything I've then
• 54:33
  attracted, like how you mentioned, it's lonely at the
• 54:35
  top, I think it's lonely at the top.
• 54:38
  If you believe it's slowly at the top, or you can believe
• 54:40
  there's a huge party going on at the top.
• 54:41
  And I can't wait to get there. And my new best friends are
• 54:44
  there and my new business mentors are there and my new
• 54:46
  connections are there. Like people say like, oh, money
• 54:48
  doesn't buy happiness. I don't necessarily agree with
• 54:50
  that because the money is the resource.
• 54:52
  It is the vessel that allows you the time freedom to then
• 54:55
  generate the happiness. Like it's all, it's all
• 54:57
  internally connected. But I think everything
• 54:59
  externally down to every last word is a complete carbon copy
• 55:03
  of the internal belief. So if you believe once I attain
• 55:05
  8 figures, it's going to be lonely up there, it's going to
• 55:07
  be lonely up there. But if you believe my new best
• 55:10
  friends and my new business besties are up there, I can't
• 55:11
  wait to get there. Total different experience.
• 55:13
  It's all in mindset. It's so true.
• 55:15
  There's a quote that really hit home for me and it says, of
• 55:19
  course everything is falling apart.
• 55:21
  The price of the life you want is your old one.
• 55:24
  Yeah, Or of course everything is falling apart.
• 55:27
  The cost or the the life you want will cost you your old one.
• 55:31
  And so I think it's so true. Is everything that we want is
• 55:35
  there, right? And, and even as I evolve as a
• 55:38
  person, as an entrepreneur, as a leader, as a friend and just as
• 55:43
  an individual, people fall off. But I know, but, but then but
• 55:49
  more people, like the right people appear all the sudden.
• 55:53
  So it's not this perfect like right away thing.
• 55:56
  There's these periods of where you might feel like everything's
• 55:59
  falling apart or you're losing people in your life or, you
• 56:02
  know, why is my business not doing well or whatever?
• 56:04
  Well, it has to end because what you're really meant for has to
• 56:07
  grow and you have to empty the cup in order to fill your new
• 56:11
  cup. Right.
• 56:11
  What you have coming is 20 times better if you have your vision
• 56:14
  and your intention set on where you want to go.
• 56:16
  I divinely believe, like every time I've set my intention on
• 56:19
  having a bigger year or XY and Z, like a certain goal in
• 56:22
  business, I've met new connections, new business
• 56:25
  partners, people for the podcast, new friendships that
• 56:28
  before I wasn't even close to the energetic vibration of
• 56:31
  calling them in. But as I've done the internal
• 56:32
  work and I've been on that rise, oh, my God, the most beautiful
• 56:35
  people have come into my life that I didn't even expect.
• 56:37
  Yeah. It's crazy.
• 56:38
  Yeah. It is crazy.
• 56:40
  It's when you live in flow instead of force, everything
• 56:43
  just starts to come to you. Yes, and that's that reminds me
• 56:45
  of a really good quote as well that I share a lot, which is
• 56:48
  that desperation repels, but alignment attracts.
• 56:51
  So when you're desperate for I have to manifest 50 grand by
• 56:54
  Friday, I can take an educated guess.
• 56:56
  You're never going to get it because you're living in the
• 56:58
  energetic vibration of desperation.
• 57:00
  But when you're in alignment with serving and your mission
• 57:03
  and sharing your talents and your gifts, it's going to flow
• 57:05
  in three times as much as you thought because now you're
• 57:07
  operating out of alignment. Just super important.
• 57:10
  So I wanted to kind of ask as well in terms of mindset, you
• 57:13
  manage an incredible $2.5 billion pipeline.
• 57:17
  So walk me through, I know you've been transparent about
• 57:19
  the fact with your energy healing and how important the
• 57:21
  mindset and personal growth is to your overall business
• 57:24
  success. What do you think is the mindset
• 57:26
  difference between someone who wants to manifest and attract in
• 57:29
  their first million versus billion?
• 57:31
  Yeah, well, I'm manifesting and attracting my first billion.
• 57:36
  That's my my life goal. And really, because I want to
• 57:41
  give it all away, just I want to master the game of, of, of life
• 57:45
  and be able to create the biggest impact I can.
• 57:47
  So again, back to not tied to the outcome, yeah, but just tied
• 57:50
  to the mission. Yeah.
• 57:52
  So. But I can't speak to that yet
• 57:53
  'cause I haven't done it. But I think, you know, it's,
• 57:57
  it's the abundance mindset. Like if you want to like there's
• 58:01
  just no option there. There is no other options.
• 58:04
  Like I'm going here, I'm going to create this and I'm going to
• 58:08
  do whatever it takes to get there while sticking true to my
• 58:12
  values. And so you just have to think
• 58:15
  like it's just different levels to the game making.
• 58:19
  I feel like making your first 100,000 is the hardest.
• 58:22
  I was going to say your first, My first million was the
• 58:24
  hardest, yeah. Yeah.
• 58:26
  And so it's because you're, you're starting from nothing,
• 58:29
  right. So it's harder to, to get, you
• 58:31
  don't have the relationships, you don't have the resources.
• 58:34
  That's why starting companies is so hard because you don't have a
• 58:36
  whole C-Suite and your whole team and like all these
• 58:39
  resources. But once you start to make some
• 58:40
  money, the biggest shift for me is I could start to invest in my
• 58:43
  education and my networks. And so it became a matter of
• 58:46
  who, not how. And so once like if you're going
• 58:48
  from zero to 100,000 or 500,000, like anywhere in that range, you
• 58:53
  kind of are The Who right? A lot.
• 58:55
  You have to just like figure it out.
• 58:57
  Now we have this amazing world of abundance and now we have AI
• 59:00
  that could teach us things immediately and give us access
• 59:03
  to all these things. And there's podcasts and YouTube
• 59:06
  university and like so many free resources from incredible people
• 59:11
  that we didn't used to have back in the day.
• 59:13
  But I think that's that's the difference is just starting to
• 59:16
  shift from who, not how, right? And so in order to continue to
• 59:21
  grow and scale, you have to think that.
• 59:23
  So it's like if I want to create a billion dollar company or a
• 59:26
  billion dollars wealth or feed a billion people, it's not going
• 59:30
  to be a me game. Yeah, it's a it's a Wii game,
• 59:33
  100%. And we have to figure out who
• 59:35
  are the people that are aligned with what we're creating here,
• 59:38
  that we can win together and we can go create this.
• 59:41
  And then it's an infinite game. Yeah, because there's no
• 59:46
  restrictions on what you can create.
• 59:48
  And just like Tony Robbins is wanting to feed a billion
• 59:51
  people. Yeah.
• 59:52
  And he brought in all these other, you know, foundations,
• 59:56
  and they're all coming together and they're all doing that
• 59:58
  together because they're all aligned with the bish.
• 59:59
  And so I think that's the most important thing is not trying to
• 1:00:02
  figure, because if you try to figure out how to do everything
• 1:00:05
  on your own. You can't.
• 1:00:06
  You can't. There's no way, right?
• 1:00:07
  Yeah. It's like I interviewed someone
• 1:00:09
  who started and sold a huge tech company.
• 1:00:12
  He's like, I've never done a line of code in my entire life.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah. Right.
• 1:00:15
  You have to delegate out. Yeah, yeah, but at the beginning
• 1:00:17
  too, it's funny hearing you say that.
• 1:00:19
  I think my first, my first six figures, 100%, but my first
• 1:00:22
  million, Oh my God, I was grinding, I was hustling, I was
• 1:00:25
  operating from that energetic state of exhaustion.
• 1:00:27
  I didn't have a team. I didn't even have my executive
• 1:00:29
  assistant yet. You have no blueprint.
• 1:00:31
  You have no, yes, you can look at others and think, oh, I'm
• 1:00:34
  going to emulate that in my own way.
• 1:00:35
  But when you don't feel that you have the tangible resources, the
• 1:00:37
  monetary compensation to get a team, I feel like at the
• 1:00:40
  beginning it's your most hustle and grind period.
• 1:00:43
  And then when you build the relationships and you have the
• 1:00:45
  resources, everything can kind of come into flow.
• 1:00:48
  But at the beginning I feel like making my first million was
• 1:00:50
  harder than the second 100%. Yeah, but when you're a startup
• 1:00:53
  founder and you're bootstrapped, yeah, you've raised no capital,
• 1:00:58
  you have no Plan B, you know, like nothing to fall back on.
• 1:01:01
  I mean, you don't have any resources, so your resources are
• 1:01:05
  just what's available online. But you have time and you got to
• 1:01:09
  put in your time to grind and to create things.
• 1:01:11
  And then you got to take your money that you've made.
• 1:01:13
  And then you have to try to make smart decisions with that money
• 1:01:16
  to continue to grow and not lose it, right?
• 1:01:18
  And start from zero. And so, I mean, you talk 1
• 1:01:22
  employee, that's $100,000 a year.
• 1:01:25
  Like for a startup founder, that's a big risk.
• 1:01:29
  Like what's the value that they're going to bring?
• 1:01:30
  Because they have to bring more than that amount of value,
• 1:01:32
  right? And if you make a bad hire, you
• 1:01:34
  could blow through. And then when you multiply that
• 1:01:36
  and you have to hire a whole team and you have all that risk.
• 1:01:39
  And so that's why it's so hard. But once you get the momentum,
• 1:01:42
  it's like most planes crash during take off, like most
• 1:01:44
  issues happen during take off. But once you have your momentum
• 1:01:46
  and you're in the air, it becomes easier because you can
• 1:01:49
  hire better people, hire better talent, you have access to
• 1:01:52
  bigger rooms, more resources, you can invest in marketing, you
• 1:01:56
  can invest in good technology and all these things.
• 1:01:58
  And so that's why the beginning is just a it is a grind.
• 1:02:02
  Now, if you're living in alignment and flow, you can
• 1:02:05
  enjoy the grind. Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  But it's a freaking grind. Like anybody that says it's it's
• 1:02:10
  not a ton of work is delusional. Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  But we can be delusional in the direction of actually enjoying
• 1:02:17
  the work that we're doing. Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Right. For sure.
• 1:02:19
  And that brings up a good point too.
• 1:02:20
  I want to ask like, did you come up against any resistance?
• 1:02:23
  I know for me personally, I grew my business organically for many
• 1:02:26
  years. Only within the past two years
• 1:02:27
  I've hopped into paid advertising and at the beginning
• 1:02:29
  I had some resistance towards it.
• 1:02:31
  Am I going to make this money back?
• 1:02:32
  Is it going to be a well worth it investment 50,000 for a
• 1:02:34
  mastermind? Obviously we know now that we
• 1:02:37
  need to be well connected, pay to be in those rooms, get that
• 1:02:39
  education like relationships are everything.
• 1:02:41
  But did you ever have any resistance just due to your
• 1:02:44
  childhood scarcity programming and mindset when you first
• 1:02:47
  started the business of I need to pay this amount of money to
• 1:02:50
  make this back, to get this return back.
• 1:02:52
  Do you believe that investing in those coaches and mentorship and
• 1:02:56
  paid advertising, like did you have any resistance when it came
• 1:02:58
  to putting your money down to grow the business?
• 1:03:02
  Oh, I still do all the time. Yeah.
• 1:03:04
  Because First off, there's a lot of people that will take your
• 1:03:07
  money and provide no value. So I had just experiences of
• 1:03:12
  investing in bad investments, right?
• 1:03:14
  Bad people or bad things or just maybe you know, I didn't get the
• 1:03:18
  right result out of it because I didn't put in the right energy
• 1:03:22
  or effort or I didn't show up well or whatever it was.
• 1:03:24
  But yeah, the first marketing company I hired, I spent
• 1:03:26
  $100,000 and didn't get one lead from it.
• 1:03:29
  Like not one sale. So oh goodness.
• 1:03:31
  Now I'm like very resistant towards paid marketing, right?
• 1:03:35
  But I know paid marketing is, is super important to grow, but I
• 1:03:39
  still don't do paid marketing. OK, which I know people think
• 1:03:42
  I'm crazy but I still. Don't know if you can do it all
• 1:03:44
  organically, more power to you. I think you should leverage the
• 1:03:46
  resources we have if needed. You have a great thing going and
• 1:03:49
  you don't need it. Power to you.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:03:51
  So I mean, that's one of those things is, you know, you start
• 1:03:54
  to get burned and then your your perception.
• 1:03:57
  Yeah, that bias. Right.
• 1:03:58
  And so I know that paid marketing could be an amazing
• 1:04:01
  thing and is amazing, but I just haven't done it yet.
• 1:04:05
  I mean, I'm in commercial real estate is a little bit tough to
• 1:04:08
  like, want an ad for, hey, let's finance your $100 million
• 1:04:11
  building because it just doesn't really work like that.
• 1:04:13
  But I could be doing marketing for other things that I'm.
• 1:04:16
  I'm not. So yeah, I do have resistance.
• 1:04:18
  So I try to just be clear and aligned and energetically, like
• 1:04:23
  keep myself. I call it the Green Zone.
• 1:04:24
  Yeah, talk about the Green Zone framework, because I'm sure that
• 1:04:27
  my audience as well would love to hear it.
• 1:04:28
  Yeah, so the Green Zone is what my coach had taught me and he
• 1:04:32
  said there's red, yellow, green, right?
• 1:04:36
  And so these are zones of energy.
• 1:04:37
  Green is the highest energetic frequency.
• 1:04:39
  This is your flow state. So on a scale of 1 to 10, think
• 1:04:43
  7 to 10 is green energy. You know, 5 or yeah, four to
• 1:04:48
  seven is yellow and one to three is red.
• 1:04:52
  And so green is flow state. Like think Michael Jordan inflow
• 1:04:56
  hitting every shots he takes every all outcomes are coming
• 1:04:59
  easily times flying by you're like as present as present can
• 1:05:04
  be. That's that's Green Zone energy,
• 1:05:06
  Right? And then yellow zone is where
• 1:05:08
  most Americans live. This is your mediocrity.
• 1:05:12
  This is your boredom, your numbness, Your it's fine.
• 1:05:15
  You're just getting good. Yeah, right.
• 1:05:17
  You're comfortable, but you're not thriving.
• 1:05:20
  You're not exhilarated. You're not in the Yeah.
• 1:05:22
  And then red is your anger, your fear, your rage, your anxiety,
• 1:05:26
  your depression, all of that stuff.
• 1:05:28
  And so my coach taught me commit to living your life in the Green
• 1:05:33
  Zone 90% of the time. Because if 90 is an A, like in
• 1:05:37
  school, you have 90 to 100, it's an A, It's the same thing,
• 1:05:40
  right? And he's like, you got to leave
• 1:05:42
  10% of your life to, to feed, to be in the red zone, to be angry,
• 1:05:45
  to be sad to whatever, because it's life.
• 1:05:49
  But if you can die on your death, but you're on your
• 1:05:52
  deathbed and you can honestly say I lived in the Green Zone
• 1:05:55
  90% of my days, then how could you ever have any regrets in
• 1:06:00
  your life? Yeah.
• 1:06:01
  Like, what other goal could you possibly desire in your life
• 1:06:04
  right along with all these other things?
• 1:06:06
  So all the goals that I have, I have all the goals, but none of
• 1:06:11
  them come at the cost of my commitment to living in the
• 1:06:13
  Green Zone. And so if if I realize that this
• 1:06:16
  goal is pulling me out of the Green Zone life, then I need to
• 1:06:20
  shift the goal. I need to delegate, I need to
• 1:06:23
  shift, I need to realign, I need to remove it like something,
• 1:06:26
  right? And so that is the main priority
• 1:06:28
  above all else is like, I will not sacrifice my Green Zone for
• 1:06:32
  anything else that I want to create.
• 1:06:34
  And that's what allows me to be able to set these big goals.
• 1:06:36
  But I'm not afraid to shift them because I pay more attention to
• 1:06:39
  the Green Zone. That's so powerful.
• 1:06:40
  I'm not wanting to live within that misalignment.
• 1:06:43
  And if you can feel internally, because you've got that
• 1:06:45
  framework, all this pulling me into the yellow or I'm
• 1:06:47
  definitely in the red today. Allowing yourself to be there,
• 1:06:49
  but in such a small percentage, I feel is important too, because
• 1:06:52
  something kind of within the manifestation and mindset
• 1:06:55
  community that I don't agree with is that you have to be high
• 1:06:57
  vibrational all the time. I think you're allowed to feel
• 1:07:00
  your human emotions, right? We're here to feel emotions,
• 1:07:03
  which are simply energy and motion.
• 1:07:05
  It's your body evading, you know, the tears, the emotions.
• 1:07:08
  We're going to go through ups and downs in the duality of
• 1:07:10
  life. Even if we're the best
• 1:07:11
  manifestos and conscious creators on the planet,
• 1:07:13
  externally, things are going to happen, right, that we have to
• 1:07:15
  navigate through. So I don't think you have to
• 1:07:17
  stay in a high vibrational state 100% of the time to manifest in.
• 1:07:21
  I've manifested some of the best things in my life after coming
• 1:07:23
  out of a period where I was depressed or sad.
• 1:07:26
  I don't think you have to live in there 100% of the time, but
• 1:07:28
  hearing, hey, I'm going to make a conscious effort to live in
• 1:07:31
  the green 90%. It's a really good framework,
• 1:07:34
  yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:35
  And it's, you know, it's, it just helps because when you
• 1:07:38
  learn the skills to be able to manage your energy better, it's
• 1:07:41
  not like you're faking or resisting or becoming numb to
• 1:07:45
  your emotions. I don't know.
• 1:07:46
  It's, it's, you're actually more in tune with your emotions.
• 1:07:49
  But because you are operating consciously in alignment with
• 1:07:53
  the things that make you happy and the things that you enjoy,
• 1:07:56
  the things that you're really good at, and you're delegating
• 1:07:59
  or removing yourself from the things that drain you, it
• 1:08:02
  becomes easy to live in the Green Zone.
• 1:08:05
  And then when it's easy to live in the Green Zone because you're
• 1:08:07
  operating from that state every day and you're doing the things
• 1:08:10
  that light you up and doing the things that you love like this,
• 1:08:13
  This is work. But I freaking love it.
• 1:08:15
  Like I would do this for fun for the rest of my life, right?
• 1:08:17
  And so like, this is a Green Zone thing for me, right?
• 1:08:19
  If it wasn't, I wouldn't have. You wouldn't.
• 1:08:21
  Be doing it. Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  And so that's The thing is people just do these things that
• 1:08:24
  they hate because they feel like they have to, and they're never
• 1:08:28
  going to get good outcomes in their life.
• 1:08:29
  But if you lean into the things that you love, you're going to
• 1:08:31
  create amazing results because you're living in that Green
• 1:08:34
  Zone. And it goes back to the outcome
• 1:08:36
  can only be as great as the energetic state in which you
• 1:08:38
  initiate the action. 100%. And there's always storms in
• 1:08:41
  life, right? Yeah, always, no matter what.
• 1:08:44
  Either we're entering one, we're in one, or we're coming out.
• 1:08:47
  Passing through, yeah. Right.
• 1:08:49
  And so if we know that that is a fact, that there's always going
• 1:08:52
  to be storms, always going to be rain and clouds and things like
• 1:08:54
  that, and then there's sunshine on the other side, and then
• 1:08:56
  there's going to be more rains and clouds that are going to
• 1:08:58
  come. And if I can control the way I
• 1:09:01
  feel through the storm, why would I not?
• 1:09:05
  If I can feel good through the storm, why would I not?
• 1:09:08
  Why does this storm have to be painful?
• 1:09:12
  Why can't it just be a storm and I can actually learn to navigate
• 1:09:16
  it, see it as an opportunity to get better, see it as a way to
• 1:09:19
  learn, see it as a way to grow. And instead of resisting the
• 1:09:23
  storm, I just sail right into it, run right into it, and
• 1:09:28
  master the navigation that we've become a better sailor.
• 1:09:31
  And if I can manage my energy through that time, it is
• 1:09:34
  difficult. But when you have the awareness,
• 1:09:35
  it's like, OK, feeling like crap through the storm isn't going to
• 1:09:40
  make it smaller. It's not going to make it end
• 1:09:42
  quicker. If anything is going to make it
• 1:09:44
  bigger and it's going to make it last longer.
• 1:09:46
  So if I can master my energy through it, then come on.
• 1:09:52
  Yeah, And whatever you focus on, it's going to multiply.
• 1:09:54
  So if you think, again, confirmation bias, I'm going
• 1:09:56
  through the worst storm ever. It's knocked me down.
• 1:09:59
  I'm never going to get back up. Your external reality will prove
• 1:10:02
  that back to you. Or you can simply say, as you
• 1:10:03
  mentioned, we all go through the duality of life.
• 1:10:05
  There's going to be UPS, there's going to be downs, and you can
• 1:10:08
  only control the controllables. You will have a complete what
• 1:10:11
  shift, a complete 180, and you'll navigate through that in
• 1:10:14
  such a different energetic vibration, which really makes
• 1:10:16
  all the difference. Yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Yeah, I agree. You talk about the law of
• 1:10:20
  assumption and I haven't heard of that that before.
• 1:10:22
  So how is that different from the law of attraction?
• 1:10:24
  Yeah, so most people, when they first learned about
• 1:10:27
  manifestation and energy, they read The Secret.
• 1:10:29
  They watch the movie The Secret by Rhonda Byrne, which came out
• 1:10:31
  like 20 years ago. They learned about energy and
• 1:10:33
  vibration, which are critically important.
• 1:10:36
  However, there are so many other terms, the law of vibration, the
• 1:10:39
  law of increase, the law of abundance, love, correspondence,
• 1:10:42
  confirmation bias. There's so many other
• 1:10:44
  neurological terms that I feel like are important and just not
• 1:10:46
  talked about too much. But the law of assumption is
• 1:10:48
  super simple and it states that whatever you would dominantly
• 1:10:50
  assume to be true is the reality that you will experience.
• 1:10:53
  So again, if you dominantly believe there are no good men
• 1:10:56
  out there. I can't trust anybody.
• 1:10:58
  I'll never be wealthy. I will never happily exist in my
• 1:11:02
  physical body. You know you're critical of your
• 1:11:04
  physical appearance. Again, you're going to find
• 1:11:06
  external circumstances to validate your claims.
• 1:11:08
  So with the law of assumption, whatever you dominantly assume
• 1:11:11
  to be true will collapse into matter.
• 1:11:13
  Because we have statistical data.
• 1:11:15
  This is such a deeper conversation, but I'm such a
• 1:11:17
  geek on quantum physics, quantum mechanics, which prove that
• 1:11:21
  again. Back to your comment about
• 1:11:23
  faking it until you make it. You don't have to fake anything
• 1:11:26
  at all. Joe Dispenza talks about this a
• 1:11:27
  lot. Every infinite version of
• 1:11:29
  reality, every infinite possibility already exists.
• 1:11:31
  Everything exists like this, like a wave of possibility, and
• 1:11:34
  the reality you experience today is what you are an energetic
• 1:11:37
  match for. So you simply have to observe.
• 1:11:39
  You are the observer and the observer effect.
• 1:11:41
  When you observe by aligning your beliefs and your identity
• 1:11:44
  with that higher level version of you that you want to be,
• 1:11:47
  it'll collapse into matter and you will experience it today in
• 1:11:50
  the physical plane. So most people don't know that
• 1:11:52
  every infinite version of them, it's already available.
• 1:11:54
  You don't have to fake anything like you don't I tell my
• 1:11:57
  students like you don't have to pull out your credit card and go
• 1:11:59
  buy a Birkin bag to convince yourself that you're wealthy.
• 1:12:02
  Because the truth is, would the wealthiest, most responsible
• 1:12:05
  version of you be making an irresponsible purchase to
• 1:12:08
  convince herself that she's something that she's not?
• 1:12:10
  No, you need to take small daily aligned action steps now that
• 1:12:14
  are within the budget, within your current reality to activate
• 1:12:16
  your most abundant self. So do an act of kindness.
• 1:12:19
  Buy somebody a coffee behind you at Starbucks, right?
• 1:12:22
  Because then your quantum leaping into the energy of
• 1:12:25
  believing abundance is all around me.
• 1:12:27
  You know, you do that act of kindness for the person behind
• 1:12:29
  you. And I believe when you do
• 1:12:30
  something like that, more abundance is already on the way
• 1:12:32
  to to you. But you don't have to go and buy
• 1:12:34
  a Lamborghini or try to fake anything.
• 1:12:36
  That version of you that you want to be already exists.
• 1:12:39
  And when you align your beliefs in your identity with the
• 1:12:41
  version of you you desire to be, it will collapse into matter and
• 1:12:44
  you will experience it. That's amazing, Yeah.
• 1:12:46
  We're talking about like high achievers and success and
• 1:12:50
  entrepreneurs. Like how does somebody actually
• 1:12:53
  manifest their dream life in when they have such massive
• 1:12:57
  goals? Yeah, so this was myself as
• 1:13:00
  well. What I did at the beginning,
• 1:13:01
  especially when starting my business or for my first few
• 1:13:04
  years of business, I hit multiple 6 figures when I really
• 1:13:07
  wanted to hone in and manifest and attract in my first million
• 1:13:09
  dollar year. I asked myself again, I wasn't
• 1:13:12
  faking anything. First of all, I wrote down my
• 1:13:14
  intentions on paper. OK, I want to manifest a
• 1:13:16
  million. But then I asked myself why?
• 1:13:17
  Because it's never just the million we want.
• 1:13:19
  It's never the 10 million we want.
• 1:13:20
  It's always the underlying energetic vibration, the
• 1:13:23
  emotion, the experience. For me, I was a single mom for a
• 1:13:26
  decade. All I've ever wanted is time,
• 1:13:28
  freedom. I worked 2 retail jobs before I
• 1:13:30
  ever built my personal brand and I was there from 8:00 AM till
• 1:13:33
  7:30 PMI was missing the whole day with my son.
• 1:13:36
  And that was at the time when he was taking his first steps and
• 1:13:39
  he was speaking his first words. And I made a commitment when I
• 1:13:42
  left that job that I would never ever again go back to a job
• 1:13:45
  where I was gone all day because I would miss that with my son.
• 1:13:48
  So for me, uncovering the underlying reason of what you
• 1:13:51
  want is so important because you're why is what's going to
• 1:13:54
  keep you going. So for me, it's the time freedom
• 1:13:56
  with my son. I never want to miss a birthday.
• 1:13:57
  I never want to miss a moment or a memory.
• 1:13:59
  Like even now with my current business, I dictate all my own
• 1:14:02
  hours as I know you're familiar with.
• 1:14:04
  So I'm able like on half days to go pick up my son from middle
• 1:14:07
  school and go to karate and go to jiu jitsu and have the
• 1:14:10
  weekends off. So for most people, they think,
• 1:14:12
  oh, I'll just be happy when I get the money, but it's like,
• 1:14:14
  why do you want the money? So uncovering what exactly you
• 1:14:17
  want and why for me it was time, freedom.
• 1:14:19
  I know that's for a lot of people as well, creating
• 1:14:21
  generational wealth. I wanted to know I had his
• 1:14:23
  college set up without having to worry.
• 1:14:25
  He can go now and do whatever he wants in life because he'll have
• 1:14:28
  the resources to do so. So I think sitting down and
• 1:14:31
  getting very clear on your intention and why you want it is
• 1:14:34
  a really great starting point rather than just Willy nilly
• 1:14:36
  throwing out like I want to be a multi millionaire, OK great.
• 1:14:38
  But if I handed you that money today, are you even ready for
• 1:14:41
  it? Is your nervous system open and
• 1:14:43
  available to receive it? If it's never been normalized in
• 1:14:46
  your life, what are you going to do with it?
• 1:14:47
  Do you have a plan? Most people don't write down a
• 1:14:49
  plan because they're brain dominantly thinks while the
• 1:14:52
  money's not here, I don't have it anyway so I've always been
• 1:14:53
  living in LAX so I don't have a plan.
• 1:14:55
  Sit down and make a plan as if it was already on the way to
• 1:14:58
  you, because then you're opening up the pathway and it will come.
• 1:15:01
  Yeah, yeah, I love that. And if you have a good, if you,
• 1:15:05
  if you know your why you can get through anyhow.
• 1:15:07
  Yeah. And that is so, of course true
• 1:15:09
  that you say that because so many of us, they, this is
• 1:15:13
  another thing I learned from my coach.
• 1:15:14
  She said, what is the intention behind everything that you're
• 1:15:17
  doing? Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  And I started answering and talking and, and ultimately it
• 1:15:21
  came out that it was to try to love myself or to try to be
• 1:15:24
  loved, right? It was to try to move towards
• 1:15:27
  love. And he said your intentions all
• 1:15:30
  wrong. He goes as long as you are
• 1:15:33
  acting from this state of lack of love, you are never going to
• 1:15:38
  attract that love, right? And you're never going to have
• 1:15:41
  it. And so he said, your intention
• 1:15:44
  has to be from love. Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  So like, he's like you say, you go to the, the gym, you started
• 1:15:48
  going to the gym because you want to lose weight and you
• 1:15:50
  don't like your body. How about you go to the gym
• 1:15:53
  because you love your body and you cherish this vessel that
• 1:15:56
  you've been given and you want to take care of it and be the
• 1:15:59
  best that you possibly can. And you say you're, you know,
• 1:16:02
  building a business because you, you are afraid of not having
• 1:16:05
  money and not being able to have a life that you want to be able
• 1:16:07
  to take care of yourself or the people that you love.
• 1:16:10
  How about you build a business because you love this gift of
• 1:16:13
  creation that you've been given and you want to serve yourself
• 1:16:15
  in the most abundant way possible.
• 1:16:17
  And you want to serve others in this upon a way so that shift.
• 1:16:20
  So powerful. It was ever, it was so power.
• 1:16:23
  I mean, not everything is, there's so many powerful things,
• 1:16:24
  but it was so powerful. And so the intention behind
• 1:16:27
  everything I do now has to come from love.
• 1:16:29
  And if it doesn't, then I just don't do it or I have to recheck
• 1:16:32
  myself of like, why am I doing this?
• 1:16:34
  And I think it's so true for entrepreneurs and high drivers
• 1:16:36
  is a lot of us that have a deep rooted insecurity like a chip on
• 1:16:40
  our shoulder, right? That's why we have this
• 1:16:42
  incessant desire to build and grow and accomplish, achieve.
• 1:16:46
  It's super common. Right.
• 1:16:47
  It's so common. It's like almost everyone I
• 1:16:49
  interview, they have that chip on their shoulder.
• 1:16:52
  And so it's difficult because we end up creating of prison in
• 1:16:56
  pursuit of our freedom. Yeah, wow.
• 1:16:59
  And because our intention is all wrong.
• 1:17:02
  And it's such a powerful reframe too.
• 1:17:03
  I'm, I'm grateful that you shared that.
• 1:17:05
  I feel like we have a lot of similarities that we could get
• 1:17:06
  into later. Because and if you have my prior
• 1:17:09
  relationships as well, I struggled with my body image and
• 1:17:11
  just believing growing up, like in my teenage years, I struggled
• 1:17:14
  really bad with believing that I would only attain a relationship
• 1:17:17
  or unconditional love if I lost weight and I was prettier and I
• 1:17:20
  got the hair extensions and I got all the things.
• 1:17:21
  I really struggled with my image growing up.
• 1:17:24
  But hearing you say that's such a powerful frame instead of can
• 1:17:27
  you love me to make me feel worthy, we should actually be
• 1:17:30
  seeking out the healthy, kind, compassionate partner for
• 1:17:33
  ourself because we first love ourself like you mentioned.
• 1:17:36
  And like, let me attract, let me set my intention on a good
• 1:17:40
  partner who will improve my life because I deserve healthy love
• 1:17:44
  rather than this partner will complete me.
• 1:17:46
  And I'm only going to feel validated if I have this partner
• 1:17:48
  in my life. I feel like especially for
• 1:17:50
  younger listeners, it's such a powerful reframe because in your
• 1:17:52
  teenage years, even into early 20s, you do think and it's put
• 1:17:55
  on to you by society. If you just attain this man or
• 1:17:58
  this wealthy man or this hot attractive guy, then you're
• 1:18:01
  going to be worthy. When in reality, you deserve
• 1:18:03
  someone with all the kind, compassionate, loving, truthful
• 1:18:07
  qualities because you love yourself.
• 1:18:09
  You're doing yourself a gift and a service of attracting in
• 1:18:12
  someone amazing, not the other way around.
• 1:18:13
  Yep, So important. It is so important.
• 1:18:16
  Yeah. And when you find, you know, I,
• 1:18:19
  I realized in my past, I was just attracting relationships
• 1:18:24
  that matched how I saw myself and the level of work that I had
• 1:18:27
  for myself, right? So that's why like now I'm like,
• 1:18:29
  I will not settle for anything less than how I see myself.
• 1:18:34
  And it took me a long time to become the kind of person that
• 1:18:37
  actually was deserving, not even deserving, but just become that
• 1:18:42
  person that I actually wanted to attract in order to attract it.
• 1:18:46
  So, and it's the same in your business, right?
• 1:18:48
  And you're and the people that you attract and the partners,
• 1:18:51
  the mentors, the coaches like anybody that you attract, their
• 1:18:53
  friendships, everybody you attract in your life is going to
• 1:18:56
  be a direct reflection of the worthiness that you have in
• 1:18:59
  yourself. Yeah, I would love to ask as
• 1:19:01
  well. Just kind of veering off.
• 1:19:03
  I end all of my interviews with this because I'm the mindset and
• 1:19:07
  manifestation queen. I know we've talked about it a
• 1:19:08
  little bit, but what would be your definition of
• 1:19:10
  manifestation? And I know you hustle and grind.
• 1:19:13
  You're doing the crazy long days right now to build your business
• 1:19:16
  and you've done an impeccable job do.
• 1:19:18
  How would you define manifestation?
• 1:19:20
  And do you truly believe internally that you have
• 1:19:23
  manifested your success? Do you believe that you've
• 1:19:25
  grinded your way to success? What would be your kind of
• 1:19:27
  internal definition of that, if you could put it into words?
• 1:19:29
  Manifestation is just setting your heart and your mind and
• 1:19:33
  your soul like all aligned with one and your body and your
• 1:19:37
  actions is having everything be aligned and having a very clear
• 1:19:41
  direction of your true north and knowing it with all of your.
• 1:19:44
  I have a 50 page true north manuscript for everything in my
• 1:19:47
  life. Yeah, I love that.
• 1:19:48
  So like that, I know where I'm going and I know what I want to
• 1:19:51
  create, and I relentlessly get there.
• 1:19:54
  Are you type? AI do yes yeah, I'm I'm type A,
• 1:19:57
  but I also like I delegate and all these things.
• 1:20:00
  I'm fine with that. I'm not like a control freak by
• 1:20:02
  any means, but I like to know exactly what I want to create
• 1:20:07
  because I don't if if you don't know where you're going, any
• 1:20:11
  road will get you get you nowhere.
• 1:20:13
  You know, I'm not just going to go drive in my car and drive
• 1:20:16
  with no destination on my map. I'm not going to go anywhere,
• 1:20:20
  right? And so it's the same thing in
• 1:20:21
  our life is that's manifestation is saying I am going here, I'm
• 1:20:25
  here, I am here. I'm aware that I'm here and I am
• 1:20:28
  going there and I am going to figure out the path to get
• 1:20:31
  there. And yes, I do believe that I've
• 1:20:33
  manifested everything in my life because I have.
• 1:20:35
  You know, I said I was going to be.
• 1:20:36
  I told my brother. I told my dad when I was six or
• 1:20:40
  seven at the McDonald's that he wouldn't buy me an ice cream.
• 1:20:43
  Told him I would be a millionaire.
• 1:20:44
  Yeah, Yeah. So I accomplished that.
• 1:20:48
  Told my brother. He said I'd never amount to
• 1:20:50
  anything. Told him I'd be a millionaire by
• 1:20:51
  the time I was 30. You accomplished that
• 1:20:54
  beforehand. You know, I've said I was going
• 1:20:57
  to start companies. I've started companies I like.
• 1:20:59
  Anything that I've said I was going to do, I just did.
• 1:21:02
  I told my brother I was going to buy a one way ticket to Hawaii
• 1:21:04
  and move and quit my job. I did that in 30 days.
• 1:21:08
  Like pretty much anything I've, I've set my mind to, I've just
• 1:21:12
  done it. And I just don't go back on
• 1:21:15
  anything that I say. And if I make a mistake or if
• 1:21:17
  it's not what I want or whatever, then great.
• 1:21:19
  And I'll, I'll leave it and go do something else and continue
• 1:21:22
  to stay aligned with what it is I want to create.
• 1:21:24
  And that shifts. And I don't believe that we have
• 1:21:26
  to have all the answers and be like, like I know I said, this
• 1:21:30
  is exactly what I where I'm going and what I want to create
• 1:21:32
  that can shift and that's OK. Like I have no ego around.
• 1:21:35
  OK, this business idea didn't work out.
• 1:21:38
  I'm not going to do that anymore.
• 1:21:39
  Whatever and and or even leaving relationships like I think
• 1:21:43
  winners or quitters and I think quitting is a part of success
• 1:21:48
  and like being able to quit and get realigned with exactly what
• 1:21:51
  you want to go and very powerful create that.
• 1:21:53
  And do you think anything is off limits?
• 1:21:55
  Do you think there's any one thing, if I were to tell you,
• 1:21:57
  can you create $100 million or whatever it may be XYZ?
• 1:22:02
  Do you believe that? The personally, I'm of the
• 1:22:04
  belief that the only limitations we have are the limitations we
• 1:22:07
  impose on ourselves. So why would you ever do that?
• 1:22:09
  Like society, social media, your friend groups, people are
• 1:22:12
  already so critical and they, they want to put you down so
• 1:22:14
  much. So I'm of the belief, don't ever
• 1:22:16
  add yourself to that list. You got to be your number one
• 1:22:19
  cheerleader. Like why would you ever add
• 1:22:20
  yourself to the list of your biggest haters?
• 1:22:22
  Like society and social media already do that so much.
• 1:22:24
  So I guess I just wonder for you, because you have achieved
• 1:22:27
  so much success tangibly on paper, do you believe, do you
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  truly believe that anything is possible?
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  Or could you ever maybe hear a tangible goal and your brain
• 1:22:34
  might think, oh, that's not possible for me.
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  Like do you truly believe you can do anything?
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  I truly. Believe I can do anything.
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  My girl, I love it. Think about it.
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  We exist. Like just the fact that you
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  exist, what is it like a 0.001 chance?
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  In trillions, you know the odds. I mean human life, Earth, space,
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  galaxies, creatures, species. Like just the fact that life
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  exists proves that anything is possible.
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  So people are like, oh, that's not true, that's impossible.
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  I'm like. You because you're trapped in
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  that cage. Don't put me in there.
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  Yeah. Like you have flesh and blood.
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  Like where where the hell did you come from?
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  Yeah. And you're saying that this is
• 1:23:20
  impossible, that you can go make $1,000,000 or build a company or
• 1:23:23
  have a baby or have be married to an amazing person?
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  Like, of course it's possible. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So no, I don't.
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  I don't think there's any limitations.
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  Yeah, I love that. Well, I love that you shared so
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  much that obviously you've done incredible externally building
• 1:23:35
  your businesses, but the fact that you've been on this
• 1:23:37
  internal personal growth and transformational journey, I feel
• 1:23:40
  like will be so beneficial to my audience as well.
• 1:23:42
  In addition to the business success that you've had,
• 1:23:44
  realizing how important that internal energetic vibration is,
• 1:23:47
  would you say that's been 50 percent, 90%?
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  How much of your overall success would you accredit to the
• 1:23:53
  internal work that you've done? I would say they're, they're
• 1:23:58
  equally important. I lean towards the energy and
• 1:24:02
  the manifestation, the personal development side more because it
• 1:24:05
  feels better, right? It makes the success feel
• 1:24:07
  better. But the first, you know, the
• 1:24:10
  first million was pure grind. Like there was no alignment,
• 1:24:15
  There was no joy. I mean, I was manifesting things
• 1:24:18
  that I was creating, but more subconsciously it wasn't in this
• 1:24:20
  like abundance way or this skill set way.
• 1:24:24
  And so it was just pure grind. So and I know people that purely
• 1:24:28
  grind and they become very rich and they build big things, but
• 1:24:32
  they are miserable and empty inside.
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  And so you can get there like on paper, build wealth by just
• 1:24:38
  grinding and being a miserable human.
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  But who wants that? Like I don't want that.
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  Yeah. And what I want to say to that
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  is my students will tell me as well, like, oh, I went and got
• 1:24:48
  10 side jobs and I've been waking up at 3:00 AM and I've
• 1:24:51
  been grinding and I've been burning out.
• 1:24:52
  I have no time with my family. But when you do that, the
• 1:24:55
  abundance and the wealth and the success you desire, it actually
• 1:24:58
  seems to be farther and farther away.
• 1:25:00
  That's because burnout does not vibrate at the same energetic
• 1:25:02
  frequency as abundance. You're in a complete
• 1:25:04
  misalignment when you think you need to do more, when in
• 1:25:07
  reality, if you did less and you were simply in alignment and you
• 1:25:09
  believed you were worthy and deserving of it and you allowed
• 1:25:12
  it to flow in rather than externally, you know, grinding
• 1:25:16
  and hustling. Like, yes, we all know if we get
• 1:25:17
  up, we take the external action. You go to work for a nine to
• 1:25:20
  five, you're going to get a paycheck.
• 1:25:21
  It's one way to wealth, but it's not every way.
• 1:25:23
  And I think there's such an easier, shorter way where you
• 1:25:26
  can collapse that time and you can start believing that you're
• 1:25:28
  worthy and deserving of it, and it's going to flow in 10 times
• 1:25:31
  faster. Right, Yeah, yeah.
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  And the one of the biggest parts of wealth is relationships and
• 1:25:36
  it's all you're doing is in the weeds of to do's and tasks.
• 1:25:40
  You're, you're not able to spend the time to build the
• 1:25:42
  relationships and real opportunity is built when you
• 1:25:46
  become an insider. And you, you only become an
• 1:25:48
  insider when you have the inside relationships.
• 1:25:50
  And you can't build the inside relationships if you're stressed
• 1:25:53
  out all the time and you're horrible to be around and you're
• 1:25:55
  just doing tasks all the time. Yeah, completely agree.
• 1:25:59
  School hard. Not you follow him, right?
• 1:26:00
  Yeah, of course. OK, cool.
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  I'm not as good as him, but he's awesome.
• 1:26:04
  So I like to end with his questions.
• 1:26:06
  Yeah, some of them. OK, what's the number one thing
• 1:26:08
  you attribute to your success? Identity, the mindset, who I
• 1:26:10
  believe I am. It far Trump's any external
• 1:26:13
  action I've ever taken in my business.
• 1:26:14
  How old were you when you became a millionaire?
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  I made my first million at 32 and I just turned 35.
• 1:26:20
  OK, awesome. Very cool.
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  Happy birthday. Thank you your.
• 1:26:24
  Birthday. It was back February 13th, the
• 1:26:27
  day before Valentine's. Super.
• 1:26:28
  Yeah. OK, cool.
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  Happy birthday. What's the book that rewired
• 1:26:31
  your brain the most? I'm going to say there's two
• 1:26:36
  breaking the habit of being yourself by Doctor Joe Dispenza
• 1:26:39
  and becoming supernatural because I was someone who was
• 1:26:41
  very realistic and statistical and logical growing up when
• 1:26:45
  people started to talk about manifestation and rewiring your
• 1:26:47
  brain, I actually didn't believe it until I saw the statistical
• 1:26:50
  data on paper. So in those two bucks,
• 1:26:52
  especially in breaking the habit, Doctor Joe does these
• 1:26:55
  retreats all over the world where they actually put devices,
• 1:26:58
  like measurable devices on people's brains and they scan
• 1:27:01
  the the effects before and after meditation and visualization.
• 1:27:06
  And we have all that statistical data now to prove that you can
• 1:27:08
  rewire your pathways. So seeing that on paper made me
• 1:27:11
  with my own two eyes believe it was possible.
• 1:27:13
  And then I actually started implemented in my life because I
• 1:27:16
  had that research to back it up. I'm super into like being
• 1:27:19
  spiritual and the woo woo side of things, but also seeing on
• 1:27:21
  paper that it's real and that anybody can rewire their brain
• 1:27:24
  was a huge game changer for me. So if anyone needs like their
• 1:27:27
  first book to dive into manifestation, I would say
• 1:27:29
  breaking the habit. Those are two of my favorite
• 1:27:31
  books, too. Yeah, they're absolutely
• 1:27:32
  amazing. We're like long lost.
• 1:27:33
  Sisters, I know I love it. I'm like we could chat about
• 1:27:36
  this for 9 hours. Yeah, and we will at dinner
• 1:27:38
  after this. So yeah, biggest manifestation
• 1:27:40
  myth that you've ever heard. Oh, that manifestation is woo
• 1:27:44
  woo, new age, rooted in mysticism.
• 1:27:46
  Manifestation is actually heavily rooted in biblical
• 1:27:48
  scripture. And a lot of people come to me
• 1:27:50
  and they'll say manifestation goes against God if you position
• 1:27:54
  it in that way, right? There's people on social media
• 1:27:56
  which have a heavy misperception of oh, you need to light a Bay
• 1:27:59
  leaf and do a spell and shout out something 333 times.
• 1:28:03
  If anyone has ever told you that's what manifestation is, I
• 1:28:06
  deeply apologize on their behalf because it's completely
• 1:28:08
  incorrect. But everything you could ever
• 1:28:10
  need to know about manifestation is in the Bible verse.
• 1:28:12
  As a man thinketh, so is he. And whatever a man asked for in
• 1:28:16
  prayer and believes he has received it will be done unto
• 1:28:19
  him. So it externally, all you need
• 1:28:22
  to remember is that everything you experience in the external
• 1:28:25
  realm, it's a reflection of who you believe that you are.
• 1:28:27
  It's not woo woo. It's not spiritual.
• 1:28:29
  Whatever terminology you align with is fine, but we're all
• 1:28:32
  manifesting 24/7. You can't turn it off.
• 1:28:35
  So you might as well become aware of it and direct that
• 1:28:36
  energy towards the dream life that you desire, because you're
• 1:28:39
  the only one holding yourself back.
• 1:28:41
  Yeah. And what do you know for sure
• 1:28:43
  that most people are still questioning?
• 1:28:46
  I think that when you live in the vibration of your passion,
• 1:28:48
  nothing is impossible. The people who still hold those
• 1:28:51
  deep seated internal beliefs of the fact that money doesn't grow
• 1:28:54
  on trees, money is unavailable for me.
• 1:28:56
  A lot of times people will say, oh, the economy is so bad, we're
• 1:28:59
  in a recession. I can't manifest wealth right
• 1:29:01
  now. The economy and the recession
• 1:29:03
  has no effect on the amount of wealth and abundance you can
• 1:29:06
  manifest in unless you believe it does.
• 1:29:08
  If you believe it hinders you, it will hinder you.
• 1:29:10
  I had a real estate, a student of mine who's in real estate and
• 1:29:14
  her boss came to her and said, well, I just want to prepare
• 1:29:16
  you. We're going into bad economic
• 1:29:18
  times and a lot of people aren't buying right now.
• 1:29:20
  So you're not going to get much Commission this year.
• 1:29:22
  And she chose to completely negate that.
• 1:29:24
  And she chose to hold the internal belief regardless of
• 1:29:26
  the economy. People are buying houses
• 1:29:28
  everyday, they're moving everyday, people are relocating
• 1:29:30
  for their jobs everyday. And she did not let that
• 1:29:33
  negative statement and that negative perception affect her
• 1:29:37
  reality. And she sold the most houses she
• 1:29:39
  ever has within that calendar year, even when the recession
• 1:29:41
  and the economy was so bad. It's only so bad and it only
• 1:29:44
  effects you if you internally believe it does.
• 1:29:46
  Everything goes back to your internal belief about yourself.
• 1:29:49
  So that would just be the number one thing anybody listening can
• 1:29:52
  do immediately is start to reframe those beliefs about
• 1:29:54
  yourself in the most positive manner.
• 1:29:56
  Love it. Yeah.
• 1:29:57
  And wealth can't get destroyed anyway.
• 1:29:58
  It's just transferred. So whether it's a good economy
• 1:30:00
  or a bad economy, it's just changing hands.
• 1:30:02
  So it's a transfer of energy. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:04
  And all they do is print more money.
• 1:30:05
  So there's more out there and. Money isn't even real.
• 1:30:08
  We're spending on a floating rock.
• 1:30:10
  Exactly. It's real.
• 1:30:11
  In the middle of expanding nothingness, yeah.
• 1:30:14
  Truly. If you could send one text to
• 1:30:16
  your 20 year old self, what would it say?
• 1:30:17
  You know what? It's going to be a carbon copy
• 1:30:19
  of what you said. I would probably look back and
• 1:30:21
  shed a tear and just tell her, don't be so hard on yourself.
• 1:30:25
  Don't be so critical. You're going to figure it out.
• 1:30:27
  And it's funny, my guest right before you, Lindsay, actually
• 1:30:30
  said this. I asked her a similar question
• 1:30:31
  and I said, would you give your 20 year old self, you know, the
• 1:30:34
  blueprint to get to where you are now?
• 1:30:36
  And she said no, she needs every life experience that she's going
• 1:30:39
  to live to figure it out on her own.
• 1:30:41
  And she actually wouldn't give her like the golden key.
• 1:30:43
  So I think before I heard that, my answer would have been OK,
• 1:30:45
  you're going to do this, this and this and you're going to be
• 1:30:47
  fine. But in reality, looking back, I
• 1:30:49
  think I would say just enjoy the ride.
• 1:30:50
  Enjoy everything that comes. It's going to build you into who
• 1:30:53
  you're meant to be and you do make it out on the other side
• 1:30:55
  and you're going to be. OK, yeah, I love it.
• 1:30:57
  Enjoy the ride. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:31:00
  Last question, if you could leave one message to the younger
• 1:31:03
  generation, what would it be? I think what I just said that
• 1:31:06
  the only limitations you have are the limitations you impose
• 1:31:09
  on yourself. So the best thing you can ever
• 1:31:11
  do is be delusional, radical internal self belief.
• 1:31:15
  Don't ever cap yourself. Don't ever have that limit.
• 1:31:17
  If you have a mission and a talent and you know you're meant
• 1:31:20
  to do something in this world, even if externally you don't
• 1:31:22
  have the support, you don't have the proof that it's possible.
• 1:31:25
  You don't even need the proof in your physical 3D to know that
• 1:31:27
  that it's possible. You need the internal vision
• 1:31:29
  because we create from the 4D. We create from the imagination.
• 1:31:32
  If you can see it in your mind, you can hold it in your hand.
• 1:31:35
  So even if no one in your family's ever created
• 1:31:37
  generational wealth, bought their dream car, purchased a
• 1:31:40
  home, you can be the first if you believe you can.
• 1:31:43
  So I'd say the number one thing you can do daily is increase
• 1:31:46
  your internal self belief. Whether you think you can or you
• 1:31:49
  think you can't, you're right. You're always right.
• 1:31:51
  Yeah. And I was actually going to ask
• 1:31:52
  you that last question as well as we wrap up here, it's almost
• 1:31:56
  a carbon copy of what you had asked me.
• 1:31:57
  But if you had your teenage self here in the room and you could
• 1:32:01
  leave her with one message, knowing all the success that you
• 1:32:04
  currently possess, what would your answer be?
• 1:32:06
  You can create whatever you want in your life.
• 1:32:08
  Yeah, yeah. And you can actually enjoy the
• 1:32:13
  journey. Yeah, doesn't have to be
• 1:32:15
  miserable. Right.
• 1:32:16
  It doesn't have to be miserable. And I thought that it had to be
• 1:32:18
  miserable to get there and then some there I would feel better
• 1:32:23
  all of a sudden. But like, there is no
• 1:32:25
  destination. The destination never comes.
• 1:32:27
  You might hit goals and this and that, but yeah, this thing that
• 1:32:30
  you think you're going to feel someday when you get this other
• 1:32:32
  thing that you desire is just not real.
• 1:32:35
  And so many people spend their whole life working towards that
• 1:32:39
  thing in the future that they don't have.
• 1:32:41
  And they're really good about being here and wanting to be
• 1:32:43
  here and thinking that when they be here, they're going to feel
• 1:32:45
  different and better and happy and all the things.
• 1:32:47
  Yeah. But just enjoy the journey
• 1:32:49
  because it's not about the destination.
• 1:32:50
  It's about who you become along the way.
• 1:32:52
  And actually having fun while you do it is not to say don't
• 1:32:56
  work hard, and it's not to say that it's not going to be pain.
• 1:32:58
  It's not to say that there's a ton of challenges and risks and
• 1:33:01
  loss and all the things because there is.
• 1:33:02
  But you can ultimately control your energy and stay aligned and
• 1:33:06
  enjoy the journey.