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- 0:07Speaker 1: It is time for your core's light choose chill headlines.
- 0:10Speaker 1: By the way, no Chuck and Buck. Today You've got
- 0:12Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan, Greg Bell and Travis Moger and the Masters
- 0:16Speaker 1: Day two underway right now. Some of the questions I
- 0:18Speaker 1: saw is the pressure off Rory now that he's leading
- 0:22Speaker 1: day one, And I thought to myself, I thought the
- 0:24Speaker 1: pressure was off, and when he won it last year,
- 0:26Speaker 1: that was all the pressure he was facing.
- 0:28Speaker 2: There were some funny things that happened in Day one
- 0:30Speaker 2: and I have.
- 0:30Speaker 1: To do that because the golfers I picked, I'll played terrible,
- 0:32Speaker 1: so we got to look at the funny things. Shafley's
- 0:35Speaker 1: ball landed in the fans merch bag and that was
- 0:37Speaker 1: pretty funny. Deshambeau hit a patron with his t shot
- 0:40Speaker 1: and Robert McIntyre just exploded on a hole and then
- 0:43Speaker 1: there's photos everywhere of him flipping off the hole.
- 0:45Speaker 2: He was so mad. I think he had a nine. Yeah,
- 0:49Speaker 2: he deserved to be angry. He deserved to be angry.
- 0:52Speaker 2: It is not very Augustine National leg.
- 0:54Speaker 1: But you know what, I think we've all wanted to
- 0:56Speaker 1: flip off a hole when we've played golf and had
- 0:58Speaker 1: a bad one.
- 0:58Speaker 2: So there you go.
- 0:59Speaker 1: He I was like, this is it Robert McIntyre, he's
- 1:02Speaker 1: one of us. We will have Masters updates starting at
- 1:05Speaker 1: twenty after the hour this hour, so you'll get the
- 1:08Speaker 1: latest from Augusta.
- 1:10Speaker 2: There.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Mariners back home tonight to face the Astros and try
- 1:12Speaker 1: to improve from a four and nine start. It's not
- 1:15Speaker 1: very often you look at the al West standings and
- 1:17Speaker 1: see the Mariners there at the bottom, but that is
- 1:19Speaker 1: the case right now. Tatsuya Emi gets the start for
- 1:22Speaker 1: the Astros. Emerson Hancock on the mound for the Mariners.
- 1:25Speaker 1: And yes, it is Echiero Statue night. Tonight, EMS will
- 1:28Speaker 1: unveil an Echiro statue outside home Plate entrance near the
- 1:31Speaker 1: Griffi and Edgar statues. Apparently that's like the statue Walk
- 1:34Speaker 1: of Fame. Now it's also Echio's replica statue night. So
- 1:37Speaker 1: the first forty fans will fans' forty thousand fans. There
- 1:41Speaker 1: you go, thank you. We'll receive a mini version of
- 1:43Speaker 1: the statue. And one thing we're going to talk about
- 1:45Speaker 1: later because tonight's game is on King five, so we
- 1:48Speaker 1: got to talk about this this TV thing.
- 1:50Speaker 3: You don't need to pay the street. Yeah, we don't
- 1:52Speaker 3: rabbit in your TV tonight you watch.
- 1:54Speaker 2: It's available to everybody.
- 1:55Speaker 1: But we're gonna have a conversation about that at eight
- 1:56Speaker 1: o'clock in the oho Is.
- 1:58Speaker 3: And again we're giving away two tickets, two pairs of
- 1:59Speaker 3: time tickets. Yeah. Through the Mariners tonight game tonight against
- 2:02Speaker 3: the Astros.
- 2:03Speaker 2: What do they have to do?
- 2:03Speaker 3: They have to text in four nine, four to five
- 2:05Speaker 3: one to come a Dodge text line or the YouTube
- 2:07Speaker 3: channel comments texting your fixed to the marriage? How would
- 2:11Speaker 3: you fix the Mariners? Creative answers please.
- 2:13Speaker 2: I saw one that suggests we just switch rosters with
- 2:15Speaker 2: the Dodgers.
- 2:16Speaker 1: That would probably work. I don't know how plausible that
- 2:19Speaker 1: one is. The Kraken did something we haven't seen in
- 2:22Speaker 1: a while. They got to win in a shootout, beating
- 2:24Speaker 1: the Vegas Golden Knights four to three last night at CPA. Mathematically,
- 2:27Speaker 1: they've still got a shot at a wild card spot
- 2:29Speaker 1: in the playoffs, it's a long shot. Four games left,
- 2:31Speaker 1: they are eight points out of the second spot, which
- 2:34Speaker 1: means they got to win out and hope for a
- 2:35Speaker 1: lot of losses for other teams.
- 2:37Speaker 2: So there is still a chance.
- 2:39Speaker 1: You're saying there's a chance they do have another game
- 2:42Speaker 1: tomorrow against the Flames. They are hosting them at CPA
- 2:44Speaker 1: tomorrow at four pm. You can hear that right here
- 2:47Speaker 1: on ninety three to three kJ our pregame at three
- 2:50Speaker 1: point thirty.
- 2:50Speaker 2: All right, it is Todd ready for us. All right.
- 2:53Speaker 2: So there's been some kracking news this week. Ron francis
- 2:56Speaker 2: stepping down.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason Botterol gonna take over Ron's duties and keep
- 3:02Speaker 1: his GM duties. And so we thought, you know what,
- 3:04Speaker 1: we need to reach out to Todd lay Wiki and
- 3:06Speaker 1: talk to him because we got a lot of questions
- 3:08Speaker 1: for this guy.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Todd, thank you for joining us this morning.
- 3:12Speaker 4: Good morning to both you.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Good morning morning, Tag, Good talk to again a minute.
- 3:17Speaker 4: Good to talk to you, Greg, Thank you, sir.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Okay, So, Todd, we were just talking about the shootout
- 3:21Speaker 1: win last night, which was very exciting. By the way, Mathematically,
- 3:25Speaker 1: the Kraken is still alive in the playoff hunt, but
- 3:27Speaker 1: it would take some pretty miraculous scenarios I think for
- 3:30Speaker 1: them to clinch a spot with just four games left,
- 3:32Speaker 1: And obviously from a fan perspective, it's disappointing to see
- 3:35Speaker 1: that our team is most likely not going to make
- 3:37Speaker 1: the playoffs. But how disappointing is it for you guys,
- 3:41Speaker 1: for everybody in the Kraken organization to see coming off
- 3:44Speaker 1: that Olympic break, what's happened?
- 3:47Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. It's hard because you know,
- 3:49Speaker 4: we went into the Olympic break and we were in
- 3:52Speaker 4: the playoffs in a spot at that point in time.
- 3:55Speaker 4: So it's been a rough patch. But you know, as
- 3:58Speaker 4: I said a few times, yeah esterday, a little adversity
- 4:01Speaker 4: does bring some opportunity and it's a chance for us
- 4:05Speaker 4: to double down and kind of say, hey, what are
- 4:07Speaker 4: we doing really well? What do we need to do better?
- 4:11Speaker 4: And there's a lot of good things. Berkeley Catton is
- 4:14Speaker 4: going to be an incredible player for us. He's still
- 4:17Speaker 4: a kid. He couldn't go out and legally drink beer
- 4:20Speaker 4: last night because he's underage, but he's certainly deserved one
- 4:25Speaker 4: for an incredible goal in the shootout. And so we
- 4:30Speaker 4: do see things that maybe others don't see. We see
- 4:33Speaker 4: the youth movement. We believe in our kids. Our development
- 4:37Speaker 4: team is the coach Hella Valley Firebirds and they're in
- 4:40Speaker 4: the American Hockey League and they're headed the playoffs again.
- 4:44Speaker 4: So there's there's lots of good things in place, but
- 4:48Speaker 4: we simply have to be better. And I think you
- 4:50Speaker 4: know our owner, Samantha Holloway. Our owners have chartered an
- 4:57Speaker 4: enterprise here that's done a lot of things. I'm I'm
- 5:00Speaker 4: mentally proud of the things we've done, from building this
- 5:05Speaker 4: brand from scratch to building what I believe is the
- 5:07Speaker 4: most beautiful arena in the world, building out our training center,
- 5:11Speaker 4: building out an arena and Coachella Valley. We've done a lot,
- 5:15Speaker 4: but what's most important to our fans is how this
- 5:19Speaker 4: team goes. And it's really important for us to get
- 5:22Speaker 4: it kicked to the right gear and we're on it.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Todd. We all saw your press conference yesterday down at
- 5:29Speaker 3: the arena in the wake of Ron Francis stepping down
- 5:32Speaker 3: as president, and you've retained Jason Barrell as your general manager,
- 5:36Speaker 3: and you announced in quote independent audit of the team's
- 5:40Speaker 3: hockey operations. And I know a lot of fans are
- 5:42Speaker 3: asking this. I had the same question when I heard
- 5:44Speaker 3: you say that how independent can it be and how
- 5:47Speaker 3: new can it be? If your GM, who is in
- 5:49Speaker 3: the building is leading this quote independent audit, I mean,
- 5:54Speaker 3: will it not be a tendency to uncover what's already known.
- 5:57Speaker 3: And what are you seeking in this audio?
- 6:01Speaker 4: Well, you know the word audit is. But you know,
- 6:04Speaker 4: here's what we're going to do. We're going to get
- 6:06Speaker 4: somebody from outside the organization the lay eyes on it,
- 6:09Speaker 4: and that individual will absolutely work with Jason and everybody
- 6:14Speaker 4: else in hockey because they have the same ambition we do.
- 6:17Speaker 4: We want to get better. But this will ultimately report
- 6:21Speaker 4: to the owner and the final report will be put
- 6:23Speaker 4: on Samantha Alloway's desk. And it's a good thing because
- 6:28Speaker 4: the fact is, Jason thinks it's a good idea too.
- 6:31Speaker 4: Everyone in the organization wants to get better, and no
- 6:36Speaker 4: one in the organization is satisfied not making the playoffs
- 6:40Speaker 4: for a thirty year in a row. So this isn't
- 6:44Speaker 4: sort of trying to trip people up or see if
- 6:48Speaker 4: there's something unknown. It's to say, how do we take
- 6:51Speaker 4: what we're doing and make it better. And let me
- 6:54Speaker 4: just talk about Jason for a second. This guy paid
- 6:58Speaker 4: his dues. He grow up in a renowned Canadian family.
- 7:02Speaker 4: His grandmother was an Olympic speed skater, his mother was
- 7:07Speaker 4: in the Olympics. His sister is one of the most
- 7:10Speaker 4: decorated Canadian women hockey players of all time. Jason won
- 7:16Speaker 4: three World Juniors gold medals, the only person ever to
- 7:20Speaker 4: have won three three medals like that. Drafted in the
- 7:24Speaker 4: NHL in the first round, got concussed, went and got
- 7:28Speaker 4: a master's degree at the University of Michigan, went to
- 7:31Speaker 4: the league office, went to Pittsburgh, had a heck of
- 7:33Speaker 4: a run, went to Buffalo, was the GM there. He
- 7:37Speaker 4: came to us by way of Ron, and you know,
- 7:41Speaker 4: he is a smart, capable guy, and he now does
- 7:45Speaker 4: take the leadership position, and we go back to the
- 7:49Speaker 4: model we had when Ron started, where we're going to
- 7:51Speaker 4: have a GM, but we are going to get outside
- 7:54Speaker 4: eyes to look at everything we're doing and to help us.
- 7:59Speaker 4: And it's not just Jason, it's the owners and it's
- 8:03Speaker 4: everyone down and you know why, we're committed to getting better.
- 8:07Speaker 4: And you know our track record is we've done a
- 8:10Speaker 4: lot of stuff here in the last eight years, but
- 8:13Speaker 4: we're we're going to get this fixed because to me,
- 8:16Speaker 4: it's one of the most important parts of everything we've
- 8:18Speaker 4: built here. For sure.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Todd Lawicki is with us, It's Ashley Ryan, Greg Bell
- 8:22Speaker 1: and Travis Moger on this Friday Sports Radio ninety three
- 8:25Speaker 1: three KJRFM, Todd, you just mentioned that you're going back
- 8:28Speaker 1: to the model when Ron first started and just having
- 8:31Speaker 1: a GM and Jason's kind of absorbing those duties that
- 8:34Speaker 1: Ron had. Is what's the reason of going back towards that?
- 8:37Speaker 1: Would it be bet Is it better to have it
- 8:39Speaker 1: kind of less voices or would it be better to
- 8:42Speaker 1: have somebody kind of like more of a checks and
- 8:44Speaker 1: balances type of system.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Well, what happened a year ago is, you know, we
- 8:51Speaker 4: want to There's not all teams have that president GM model,
- 8:57Speaker 4: but we did it, and there were a variety of
- 8:59Speaker 4: reasons for how we did it. I think that it
- 9:03Speaker 4: just feels like the right thing to do, but we
- 9:05Speaker 4: reserve the right to because our ultimate goal is how
- 9:09Speaker 4: do we get this to a better place. There are
- 9:12Speaker 4: a lot of things that we're actually excited about. You know.
- 9:16Speaker 4: There's our system. You know, we believe in our kids,
- 9:21Speaker 4: and we were ranked recently a seventh best in the
- 9:23Speaker 4: league and prospects or top third there Coachella Valley. They're
- 9:28Speaker 4: going to the playoffs and that is the probably a
- 9:31Speaker 4: leading indicator of how good this team's going to be
- 9:33Speaker 4: in the future and they're playing lights out down there.
- 9:36Speaker 4: We have cap space, we have capable veterans, we have
- 9:39Speaker 4: rising stars, and you saw it last night with Berkeley Caton.
- 9:43Speaker 4: We have four first round picks these next two years
- 9:48Speaker 4: and we'll see how it finishes, but we're probably going to,
- 9:52Speaker 4: you know, have a very high pick this year. So
- 9:55Speaker 4: there's lots of good things that give us lots of
- 9:59Speaker 4: hope and not to miss him, but we want to
- 10:01Speaker 4: get it right and we're going to do some fine
- 10:03Speaker 4: tuning here in the coming weeks and I'm excited about it.
- 10:06Speaker 3: Todd light Wickie CEO of the Kracking here on your
- 10:09Speaker 3: voice at Home of the Crack in ninety three point
- 10:10Speaker 3: three KGr family last year, Ryan and Greg Bell, Todd Lane, Lambert.
- 10:17Speaker 3: You I heard him say he did it. He's coached
- 10:19Speaker 3: his ass off this season, in particular in the last
- 10:22Speaker 3: few months, in particular through a third coach in three years.
- 10:27Speaker 3: What's his future? Is he coming back and what is
- 10:29Speaker 3: how are you in the organization? Sama, have the hallway
- 10:32Speaker 3: on down assess the coaching of this team.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's I think he's coached really hard
- 10:37Speaker 4: this year and you know, we won through we started
- 10:41Speaker 4: out strong, we won through a bit of a dip,
- 10:44Speaker 4: a pretty good dip, and then came back strong and
- 10:46Speaker 4: played really strong leading into the Olympic break. And you know,
- 10:51Speaker 4: I think Lane has I won't use that word again,
- 10:54Speaker 4: By the way, my wife's like, did you swear? Did
- 10:57Speaker 4: you swear on? But you know, I think he's worked really,
- 11:01Speaker 4: really hard, as has our coaching staff. Fact is, I
- 11:06Speaker 4: think we've stood up a pretty good organization here, and
- 11:09Speaker 4: I think that what we're not looking to do is
- 11:13Speaker 4: to disrupt something that has lots of good pieces with it.
- 11:18Speaker 4: We're trying to make it better and there's definitely some
- 11:21Speaker 4: fine tuning here. But it's also a chance. You know,
- 11:24Speaker 4: I said yesterday, a little bit of adversity can bring
- 11:26Speaker 4: real opportunity. And the opportunity here is to look at
- 11:30Speaker 4: everything we're doing and say, how do we make it better?
- 11:34Speaker 4: And we're excited to do that, and we've spent time
- 11:38Speaker 4: this week doing that. I also do want to pause
- 11:41Speaker 4: here and acknowledge the work that around Francis did and
- 11:44Speaker 4: standing this thing up. And you know, I've had to
- 11:47Speaker 4: walk down memory lane here a little bit this week,
- 11:51Speaker 4: and when you think about what we walked into here,
- 11:54Speaker 4: it was highly improbable we could do what we said
- 11:58Speaker 4: we were going to do. That we can take arena
- 12:01Speaker 4: that was almost left for dead. No one thought that
- 12:06Speaker 4: anything meaningful could happen at that arena. And you know,
- 12:10Speaker 4: we somehow found a way to hold a forty million
- 12:12Speaker 4: pound roof up and build a brand new arena under it,
- 12:15Speaker 4: and everything is happened that has played there has had
- 12:18Speaker 4: huge success. We're now leading concert venue in North America.
- 12:22Speaker 4: The Storm has made an incredible home out of it,
- 12:25Speaker 4: and the Torrent leading the w the Professional Women's Hockey League,
- 12:29Speaker 4: and attendance our fans have been incredible and guess what,
- 12:34Speaker 4: We're poised for another team to play there. So we
- 12:39Speaker 4: have and I'm so proud of what we've done with
- 12:43Speaker 4: our brand, with our commitment to community. We're working on
- 12:46Speaker 4: a project Memorial Stadium that is one of the greatest
- 12:49Speaker 4: things I've ever done in my life. We took a
- 12:53Speaker 4: stadium that probably should have been repaired but certainly replaced
- 12:58Speaker 4: in recent years, and worked with both the city and
- 13:01Speaker 4: the school district to develop a plan. We spent years
- 13:05Speaker 4: doing this, but in about eighteen months what will be
- 13:10Speaker 4: complete is one of the finest community stadiums in the land.
- 13:13Speaker 4: We went out and raised tens of millions of dollars.
- 13:16Speaker 4: We concepted, we designed, we cost estimated, and we're now
- 13:23Speaker 4: leading the construction and it is going to be an
- 13:26Speaker 4: incredible shot in the arm for Seattle Public schools, for
- 13:29Speaker 4: the forty seven thousand students, for the Metro League, but
- 13:32Speaker 4: also for our city. And those are the sort of
- 13:36Speaker 4: things we took on. So as you hit a bump
- 13:38Speaker 4: in the road, you got to keep it all in perspective.
- 13:42Speaker 4: I'm proud of this organization. We're capable true excellence, and
- 13:45Speaker 4: we're going to We're going to push for excellence on
- 13:48Speaker 4: the ice as well. Here in this offseason is mainly
- 13:50Speaker 4: ever coming back on. Yes, I fully anticipate Lane comes back,
- 13:55Speaker 4: and I think that Lane is actually worked hard and
- 14:00Speaker 4: done a heck of a job. And you saw last
- 14:03Speaker 4: night we were playing a very very fine team and
- 14:06Speaker 4: the team did rise up, you know. But one, you know,
- 14:10Speaker 4: an interesting dynamic is looking at the minutes of our
- 14:13Speaker 4: young kids. And these are the things that coaches struggle
- 14:16Speaker 4: with because on nights where you're playing a great team,
- 14:22Speaker 4: there is a tendency to play your veteran players. But
- 14:25Speaker 4: we really believe in our kids. So for instance, Berkeley
- 14:29Speaker 4: getting into the shootout last night, that is the rarefied
- 14:33Speaker 4: air often reserved for veterans, right, and the kids steps
- 14:37Speaker 4: in and he made a brilliant move. And so you know,
- 14:39Speaker 4: Lane's been asked to do a lot. He's certainly disappointed
- 14:44Speaker 4: in what happened since the Olympic break, but leading up
- 14:48Speaker 4: to the Olympic break, he had this team playing well.
- 14:52Speaker 4: And you know, we still think there's upside. We think
- 14:55Speaker 4: we need to give him a little bit more, and
- 14:58Speaker 4: we're going to this offseason for sure.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Todd. I've known you since you were the CEO of
- 15:03Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks, and those of us have been in
- 15:05Speaker 3: town a day or two know that from two thousand
- 15:07Speaker 3: and three to two thousand and seven you're the man
- 15:09Speaker 3: that Paul Allen dispatched to get Pete Carroll out of
- 15:12Speaker 3: USC and come and change the fortunes of the Seahawks.
- 15:15Speaker 3: You've been an executive with the Vancouver Canucks, up the road,
- 15:18Speaker 3: down the road, working with the Golden State Warriors, Tampa
- 15:22Speaker 3: Bay Lightning. In your experiences as a professional sports executive,
- 15:27Speaker 3: what will you lean on and remember to get out
- 15:31Speaker 3: of what you are trying to fix with the KRACK
- 15:33Speaker 3: And what are those experiences? What have they taught you
- 15:36Speaker 3: that will aid you in this whole thing?
- 15:39Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, this isn't a crisis. And so I've
- 15:43Speaker 4: dealt with lots of lots and lots of tough issues.
- 15:46Speaker 4: By the way, I think it was. I arrived in Seattle,
- 15:48Speaker 4: I think in two thousand and two, and I was
- 15:50Speaker 4: here through twenty ten. There were significant issues there, Greg,
- 15:53Speaker 4: and you're your first hand. You covered it, You covered
- 15:56Speaker 4: it seven days a week. But we fixed it. And
- 16:00Speaker 4: I think that for me, you know, and this is
- 16:04Speaker 4: going to sound a little corny, but every time I
- 16:07Speaker 4: go to the building and I'm around our fans, I
- 16:09Speaker 4: find deep, deep inspiration. And I think Seattle is blessed
- 16:13Speaker 4: with some of the greatest sports fans in the world.
- 16:15Speaker 4: Pound for found there are no better sports fans in
- 16:18Speaker 4: the world than what we have here. And they have
- 16:22Speaker 4: never let me down. They became again resurrected the twelfth Man,
- 16:30Speaker 4: or the twelves as they call them today. They were
- 16:33Speaker 4: They made the sounders the showroom of the ms, and
- 16:38Speaker 4: they have given life to the Crack. And so when
- 16:41Speaker 4: I go in the building, it's not as you know,
- 16:43Speaker 4: this is These are all things that are certainly within
- 16:47Speaker 4: our grasp to fix and improve and get us to
- 16:49Speaker 4: the point of where we believe we should be, which
- 16:53Speaker 4: is a perennial payoff team. But the pressure doesn't really
- 16:57Speaker 4: come from any other real source than wanting to serve
- 17:01Speaker 4: our fans. And they've been incredible. They believed in this
- 17:04Speaker 4: before other people believed in it. They didn't know the
- 17:06Speaker 4: team name, and they stepped in and said I'm there,
- 17:09Speaker 4: and last night they roared. We have incredible fans, and Greg,
- 17:14Speaker 4: when you stand back and look at the totality of
- 17:16Speaker 4: what we built, this is not this is far from uh,
- 17:22Speaker 4: you know, the greatest challenge we faced. And I like
- 17:25Speaker 4: our track Urcherd, and I like our chances because we
- 17:29Speaker 4: we already had plans of what this offseason is going
- 17:32Speaker 4: to be and there's so many good things. We have
- 17:35Speaker 4: really good prospects in the system. We're super excited about
- 17:38Speaker 4: our kids down in Coachella Valley, and last night, if
- 17:42Speaker 4: you look at the minutes to play, a lot of
- 17:44Speaker 4: our young kids saw meaningful minutes and played their hearts
- 17:46Speaker 4: out and we beat a dang dang good team. I
- 17:49Speaker 4: almost swear it again.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Todder, one more thing before we let you go, and
- 17:56Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us this morning. I
- 17:58Speaker 1: just have to ask you this one question before we
- 18:00Speaker 1: let you go. Scale A one to ten. How confident
- 18:03Speaker 1: are you that in October of twenty twenty eight there
- 18:05Speaker 1: will be a basketball team plane at Climate Pledge Arena.
- 18:08Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I'm glad you asked it, and
- 18:09Speaker 4: I know you get to go to a commercial break,
- 18:11Speaker 4: so I'll try and keep this brief. But when I
- 18:14Speaker 4: came back eight years ago and we dreamt about what
- 18:17Speaker 4: could be, and I looked at that building which was
- 18:21Speaker 4: in dire need of something. Most people never thought that
- 18:25Speaker 4: we could take that building and turn it into one
- 18:27Speaker 4: of the most beautiful arenas in the world. And I
- 18:29Speaker 4: say that, and it's true. Yeah, that's not some projection,
- 18:34Speaker 4: that's actually fact. It is a spectacularly beautiful building, a
- 18:38Speaker 4: new building under a historic roof. We dreamt eight years
- 18:41Speaker 4: ago about a day and it was a huge part
- 18:43Speaker 4: of why we did it, because I was here when
- 18:45Speaker 4: they left and it was wrong. It was wrong. They
- 18:48Speaker 4: should have never ever left. But it took a bold
- 18:52Speaker 4: idea and a big solution, and it took a privately
- 18:56Speaker 4: funded arena, and we did it, and now we're poised
- 19:00Speaker 4: in the table is set and I believe that you
- 19:05Speaker 4: know first. Only time will tell, but the NBA is
- 19:08Speaker 4: certainly certainly taking steps to bring this to a head.
- 19:14Speaker 4: A year ago, we weren't certain we were going to
- 19:16Speaker 4: be that they were going to select Seattle as one
- 19:19Speaker 4: of the target cities. Well that's now been resolved. They're
- 19:23Speaker 4: focused on two cities. Are we putting our best foot
- 19:26Speaker 4: forward every single day? And time will tell. We're going
- 19:30Speaker 4: to let this process play out. But I work for
- 19:34Speaker 4: Samantha Holloway. She is an incredible owner and when you
- 19:38Speaker 4: look at the track record of this ownership group, we
- 19:42Speaker 4: are poised to lead this. We will not get in
- 19:45Speaker 4: front of the league on it, but if they say
- 19:49Speaker 4: game on, we're doing it. We are ready. And I
- 19:54Speaker 4: personally am very optimistic. When when would you use and
- 19:57Speaker 4: what and what a day that will be, yesslity, what
- 20:02Speaker 4: a wrong that will have been righted? And that historic
- 20:07Speaker 4: roof will have hosted the Beatles, the Sonics and the
- 20:10Speaker 4: new iteration of the Sonics, and how great that will be?
- 20:14Speaker 4: And you know what, I have such confidence in the
- 20:16Speaker 4: Kraken that I believe that under that roof, we're going
- 20:20Speaker 4: to see incredible, incredible moments too. And you know, with
- 20:23Speaker 4: our prospects and how we feel, we do believe that
- 20:27Speaker 4: we're going to become a contending here in the not
- 20:30Speaker 4: too distant future and the great days are going to
- 20:32Speaker 4: happen for them as well, Todd.
- 20:34Speaker 3: Real quickly, fans will want to know one roof Sports
- 20:36Speaker 3: and Entertainment, the entity you formed to potentially lead to Sonics.
- 20:40Speaker 3: When would you submit a bid timeline to the NBA?
- 20:43Speaker 3: When would that might all start getting in motion?
- 20:46Speaker 4: Well, there's a whole process, and Atom laid it out
- 20:49Speaker 4: pretty clearly in his announcement. But you know, we're not
- 20:52Speaker 4: a group too, We're not a flat footed group. The
- 20:56Speaker 4: things we've taken on that we've done indicate that we're
- 20:59Speaker 4: going to be ready for this moment two and we
- 21:01Speaker 4: will be. So that has and we work, uh the
- 21:05Speaker 4: process there. The NBA has announced that they've selected, you know,
- 21:10Speaker 4: a firm that's going to lead this and it is
- 21:13Speaker 4: came on and I will share this every single day
- 21:16Speaker 4: we work on it. There's not you know, maybe maybe
- 21:19Speaker 4: Sundays we take off there, but but uh, there are
- 21:25Speaker 4: sundays we work on it too, So it's uh, it's
- 21:29Speaker 4: it's a happening thing. And uh, you know I told
- 21:32Speaker 4: I told your afternoon guys that you know, they asked
- 21:36Speaker 4: me the same question. I was optimistic, and I gave
- 21:39Speaker 4: them an affirmative answer, and I'll give you the same answer. Yes,
- 21:41Speaker 4: I'm optimistic, wonderful, bring them back, Todd, appreciate you.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Thanks, and I will just say this, give me one
- 21:49Speaker 4: more second. Yes, when they come back. If you go
- 21:52Speaker 4: into a bar, if you're a Sonics fan and you
- 21:54Speaker 4: go on to a bar and you see a cracking
- 21:56Speaker 4: fan or someone wearing a crack and hat, buy them
- 21:58Speaker 4: up here. We'll been the krack and fans that actually
- 22:02Speaker 4: they gave life to the arena and they put us
- 22:04Speaker 4: in this position. And if you asked me, would we
- 22:07Speaker 4: have otherwise been in this position if we hadn't fixed
- 22:10Speaker 4: the arena and privately built, privately built an arena, No,
- 22:14Speaker 4: we wouldn't have been in this spot. So thank the
- 22:16Speaker 4: crack and fans when you see him, because they were
- 22:19Speaker 4: fundamental to creating the optimism I have about the Sonics
- 22:22Speaker 4: coming back.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Well said, thank you so much Todd for joining us.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Thank you Todd you talk to again, all right?
- 22:28Speaker 2: That is Todd Lewickie, CEO of the Crack.
- 22:30Speaker 3: If you missed the news, he said, Lane Lambert is
- 22:32Speaker 3: coming back. Yes, he was much more unequivocal with us
- 22:35Speaker 3: than he was yesterday in his press conference. He also
- 22:37Speaker 3: said that he doesn't want to disrupt what's working.
- 22:40Speaker 4: Yep.
- 22:40Speaker 3: We'll talk more about what Toddlewickie said here in coming up.
- 22:43Speaker 3: But that's the takeaway. Lane Lambert's coming back. He doesn't
- 22:45Speaker 3: think coaching is part of the problem.
- 22:47Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't either.
- 22:48Speaker 1: All Right, we got to get to Augusta and an
- 22:50Speaker 1: update on the Masters.
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- 23:17Speaker 1: is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with no Chuck,
- 23:19Speaker 1: no Buck today. Buck out dealing with some medical issues
- 23:23Speaker 1: as we've been talking about all week, and Chuck getting
- 23:25Speaker 1: the clean out. That's right, he's getting the kolonoscopy today,
- 23:27Speaker 1: so he's taking the.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Day off as well. He's excited to show it off
- 23:30Speaker 2: on Monday.
- 23:32Speaker 4: There.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a treat. It is a treat.
- 23:35Speaker 3: We have them call in.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that would be really funny actually, So yeah,
- 23:39Speaker 1: everyone is doing well today.
- 23:41Speaker 2: You've got Ashley Ryan, Greg Bell, and Travis Moger in.
- 23:43Speaker 1: And sorry that we are a little late, but you
- 23:45Speaker 1: know what, we couldn't finish up that Todd Bliwicky interview
- 23:48Speaker 1: without talking about the Sonics. And it was fun because
- 23:50Speaker 1: during the break we're sitting here, we've got the Masters
- 23:52Speaker 1: on TV, and there's Mike McDonald sitting there at Augusta.
- 23:56Speaker 3: He had booty cutter shorts on.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Yeah, he had short shorts.
- 23:59Speaker 4: It was shit.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Wait, I know we've seated, but he was showing off
- 24:02Speaker 3: his legs. Yeah, you days, we know he doesn't skip
- 24:05Speaker 3: shoulders chest.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Well, now we know he doesn't skip leg days either,
- 24:08Speaker 1: And he was getting his swing analyzed from Andy North
- 24:10Speaker 1: and he's sitting there with I think that's Laura Rutledge
- 24:13Speaker 1: And so that is going to take us to our
- 24:15Speaker 1: next topic. I want to talk about journalistic integrity because
- 24:19Speaker 1: I feel like that has been a big conversation this
- 24:21Speaker 1: week with former affiliates here of KJR and her relationship
- 24:26Speaker 1: with a football coach. I don't want to talk about
- 24:28Speaker 1: that part of it, like the are they aren't they?
- 24:31Speaker 2: Any of that stuff. I don't want to talk about that.
- 24:33Speaker 1: It's just the fact that, regardless of any romance that's happening,
- 24:38Speaker 1: should there ever be an occasion where a reporter is
- 24:41Speaker 1: good enough friends, especially so like an NFL insider or
- 24:45Speaker 1: a reporter covering whatever sport they're covering, is good enough
- 24:48Speaker 1: friends with a coach of the sport that they're covering,
- 24:51Speaker 1: that they're hanging out outside of work, I mean at
- 24:54Speaker 1: hotels or on vacations, things like that, even if it
- 24:58Speaker 1: was the two if it was two couple going, should
- 25:00Speaker 1: a reporter and a coach that they cover ever be
- 25:03Speaker 1: that close?
- 25:03Speaker 3: Greg, Well, I've done this for what is it now,
- 25:08Speaker 3: twenty eight years, since I was in the army. I
- 25:12Speaker 3: think some of this has to do with my army
- 25:13Speaker 3: background and fraterization rules that are in the military and
- 25:16Speaker 3: the chain of command and you don't mix, and I
- 25:19Speaker 3: think there's some of that. But the way I learned journalism,
- 25:23Speaker 3: the way I have practice journalism for twenty seven years now,
- 25:27Speaker 3: is that there is a firewall between you and the
- 25:30Speaker 3: people you cover. Right. I have a great relationship Mike
- 25:34Speaker 3: McDonald and I are fathers. We have a common bond there.
- 25:38Speaker 3: His father is a West Point graduate, So we talk
- 25:41Speaker 3: often about the military influence and how he runs the
- 25:43Speaker 3: Seahawks often like a military organization, and even down to
- 25:46Speaker 3: the words he says, yeah, if you're walking, you're wrong,
- 25:49Speaker 3: he yells out on the practice fields. I heard that
- 25:50Speaker 3: in basic training. So we have a relationship that doesn't
- 25:54Speaker 3: get in the paper and it is not off the record.
- 25:56Speaker 3: And I know things that I don't print. He trusts
- 25:59Speaker 3: me that I won't print it. When we talk about
- 26:01Speaker 3: things like that. That is one thing I draw the line.
- 26:05Speaker 3: And going out and having pops as I call it. Yeah,
- 26:08Speaker 3: And the what I've lived by is you cannot be
- 26:15Speaker 3: buddy buddy high five and and hugging, which, by the way,
- 26:18Speaker 3: happens on the Seahawk beat. I will tell you I
- 26:20Speaker 3: think some of it is because people are born and
- 26:22Speaker 3: raised here that cover the team. I am not I'm
- 26:24Speaker 3: from Pittsburgh and I've said that and I know that
- 26:26Speaker 3: and I'm not from here, and I think that helps
- 26:28Speaker 3: me be objective at times. But you cannot be buddy
- 26:31Speaker 3: buddy slapping high five and guys in the locker room
- 26:34Speaker 3: and then writing when you need to write when they
- 26:37Speaker 3: screw up, or when things aren't great and they're not
- 26:39Speaker 3: winning the Super Bowl, or they're in the news for
- 26:41Speaker 3: the wrong reasons. As a journalist, I need to be
- 26:45Speaker 3: there to write that too, and to be authentic and
- 26:49Speaker 3: to myself, my profession, the people I work for, my readers.
- 26:53Speaker 3: I can't be high five and backslapping, having pops with
- 26:56Speaker 3: the guys that I'm going to then turn around and
- 26:57Speaker 3: either criticize or write the bad stuff when they do it.
- 27:02Speaker 3: I will tell you that is not how journalism is today.
- 27:04Speaker 3: I feel like a dinosaur in some ways that way,
- 27:07Speaker 3: and I think that's wrong, and I think that degrades
- 27:11Speaker 3: the trust that readers have in the integrity of the reporting. Absolutely,
- 27:16Speaker 3: but it happens, and a lot of it is because
- 27:18Speaker 3: the people that are now doing the quote journalism using
- 27:20Speaker 3: air quotes. If you can see me on YouTube air quotes.
- 27:23Speaker 3: A lot of people that are doing the journalism are
- 27:25Speaker 3: not one don't have the same values and thoughts on
- 27:28Speaker 3: this that I do, and they weren't trained in this.
- 27:31Speaker 3: I mean, I have a master's degree in journalism where
- 27:33Speaker 3: I had to take journalism ethics I had to take
- 27:35Speaker 3: at work with police departments. I worked with a Politerprize
- 27:39Speaker 3: winning Washington Post reporter was my instructor and graduate advisor.
- 27:44Speaker 3: I got some insight into some stuff that had way
- 27:47Speaker 3: more things important than football that I learned how to
- 27:51Speaker 3: handle situations.
- 27:52Speaker 4: That's what I paid for my Cayle Berkeley degree.
- 27:54Speaker 3: For the people that do journalism today don't have that,
- 28:00Speaker 3: and because they have thumbs and a Twitter account, they
- 28:03Speaker 3: can put out what is quote unquote journalism. It is
- 28:08Speaker 3: not right and the relationships are not journalism, they're not professional. Yeah,
- 28:13Speaker 3: And so the problem for a journalist is the readers
- 28:17Speaker 3: and the viewers can't tell the difference. The line is
- 28:20Speaker 3: so blurred and the product is so blurred with the
- 28:23Speaker 3: producer being so blurred as a quote journalist, the consumer
- 28:28Speaker 3: can't tell the difference. And that's how you get into
- 28:30Speaker 3: situations like this. And I get it why people don't
- 28:35Speaker 3: trust the media. I get it why people don't think
- 28:37Speaker 3: journalism is a reputable profession. We've done that to ourselves
- 28:41Speaker 3: by and large. But I will still go to the
- 28:44Speaker 3: Seahawks this season and act the same way I have
- 28:46Speaker 3: for twenty seven other seasons covering Major League Baseball the
- 28:50Speaker 3: University of Washington, working for them and for the Seahawks,
- 28:53Speaker 3: and we're covering them. So it's complicated because it is
- 28:58Speaker 3: so more nuanced and layer than it used to be.
- 29:01Speaker 3: It's still black and white to me.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Do you think that somebody in the situation that we
- 29:05Speaker 1: are hearing about this week should be fired from their
- 29:07Speaker 1: job or or do you think just losing the credibility
- 29:10Speaker 1: as the journalist and as an unbiased reporter is enough.
- 29:17Speaker 3: I'm not going to weigh on whether Diane Verssini should
- 29:19Speaker 3: be fired. I'm not going to comment publicly on her
- 29:22Speaker 3: private life.
- 29:23Speaker 1: Yes she does with anyone, No, And I'm just talking
- 29:26Speaker 1: about from the fact that there is a relationship that
- 29:29Speaker 1: is clearly more than just reporter coach.
- 29:34Speaker 3: Well, then there's another discussion on how these National NFL
- 29:38Speaker 3: reporters get their news right.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Well, that is a big question, isn't it.
- 29:42Speaker 3: They don't do it by all the time by proper
- 29:45Speaker 3: journal Well, I won't the proper as a word, by
- 29:48Speaker 3: traditional journalism standards and relationships. We've seen examples of National
- 29:53Speaker 3: NFL reporters who get their information, and how they get
- 29:56Speaker 3: it is because they scratch the back of the people
- 29:58Speaker 3: giving them the information, and the people giving information scratched,
- 30:02Speaker 3: they're back too. It's a quid pro quote. I've never
- 30:05Speaker 3: had an experience in my journalism career of a quid
- 30:08Speaker 3: pro quote because of that firewall.
- 30:10Speaker 4: I've tried to keep up.
- 30:12Speaker 3: But that gets clicks, that gets the first thumb raise
- 30:16Speaker 3: to Twitter, and.
- 30:18Speaker 2: That's who had first right.
- 30:20Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you carry the in the NFL media business,
- 30:23Speaker 3: if you carry the water for agents, it used to
- 30:26Speaker 3: be Ashley that I had to call. I broke the
- 30:28Speaker 3: story for the Associated Press when Shawan Alexander signed the
- 30:31Speaker 3: richest contract for running back in NFL history at the
- 30:34Speaker 3: time in two thousand and six, coming off the Super Bowl,
- 30:36Speaker 3: the first Super Bowl year the Seahawks had.
- 30:39Speaker 4: I got it.
- 30:40Speaker 3: You know how I got that by calling picking up
- 30:42Speaker 3: the phone and calling his agent in Saint Louis, Jim Steiner.
- 30:46Speaker 3: Picking up the phone, Sam Greg Bell the Associated Press,
- 30:49Speaker 3: how close are you to a new contract with Shawn Alexander?
- 30:52Speaker 3: He said, Greg, We're done. Oh, on the record, I
- 30:54Speaker 3: was the first person that had in the country. That's
- 30:57Speaker 3: not how it works anymore. The agents don't respond to
- 31:01Speaker 3: local writers or even the Associated Press.
- 31:03Speaker 2: National they just reach out to Adam Schefter.
- 31:07Speaker 3: Or Rappaport or Rassini or they have a stable of
- 31:10Speaker 3: people because they will get it out for them. What
- 31:13Speaker 3: they fail to see is anybody who has a phone
- 31:15Speaker 3: can put out the information, but they put it onto
- 31:18Speaker 3: a platform they want to serve the platforms that these
- 31:22Speaker 3: national NFL people have. There are national NFL guys who
- 31:27Speaker 3: break stories of an injury at a Seahawk practice that
- 31:29Speaker 3: the Seahawks beat writers are not allowed to witness, right, Yeah,
- 31:33Speaker 3: the reporters have not been in Seattle in decades. They're
- 31:36Speaker 3: three thousand miles from Seattle. I'm fifteen feet from the
- 31:40Speaker 3: practice field in either side of the door, and I
- 31:43Speaker 3: can't report it. Yeah, but that's because the agent or
- 31:47Speaker 3: the teams feed these guys. Sometimes it's the teams in
- 31:51Speaker 3: the NFL network case too, feed these guys and gals
- 31:54Speaker 3: the information in a quid pro co situation. I would
- 31:56Speaker 3: tell you that that, to me is not true journalism.
- 31:58Speaker 3: And there's the lines of ethic. Yeah, and that's the
- 32:01Speaker 3: world we live in.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Well, man, I feel like I could have this conversation
- 32:04Speaker 1: for we could I know, but unfortunately.
- 32:06Speaker 2: We have to go to a break.
- 32:08Speaker 3: Let's talk about something great.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Yes, Caleb McGarry.
- 32:11Speaker 3: Yes, those of you in Fife, South King and Pierce County,
- 32:16Speaker 3: hats off to Caleb McGary. We want to tell you
- 32:17Speaker 3: why next on ninety three point three KJR FM.
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- 32:48Speaker 1: It's Ashley Ryan, Greg Bell and Travis Moger and we
- 32:52Speaker 1: had an interesting conversation just a bit ago about journalistic integrity,
- 32:56Speaker 1: which I really liked and would have loved to have continued,
- 32:58Speaker 1: but you know, commercials and such, we have to pay
- 33:00Speaker 1: the bills, and it was good that we had to
- 33:03Speaker 1: do that because now we get to come back to
- 33:04Speaker 1: an uplifting story. And I was reading your article Greg
- 33:08Speaker 1: and the Tacoma News Tribune from twenty nineteen on Caleb
- 33:11Speaker 1: McGary when he was entering the draft and going through
- 33:14Speaker 1: the draft process, and you brought this up yesterday in
- 33:17Speaker 1: our show text and wanted to talk about this a bit,
- 33:19Speaker 1: so I don't want to steal any thunder from your article.
- 33:22Speaker 1: But I hadn't. I honestly didn't have any idea of
- 33:25Speaker 1: all of the things that cayleb McGary went through. And
- 33:28Speaker 1: to see that he was able to have such a
- 33:30Speaker 1: successful NFL career and what he was able to do
- 33:33Speaker 1: and how he his reasoning behind wanting to do it
- 33:36Speaker 1: all pretty impressive.
- 33:37Speaker 2: He's a pretty impressive young man.
- 33:39Speaker 5: He really is.
- 33:40Speaker 3: And I'm going to I owe a call in to
- 33:42Speaker 3: Caleb and Gary my call him today for a story
- 33:44Speaker 3: I'm going to do for the News Tribune in twenty
- 33:46Speaker 3: thirteen class of Fife High School. He actually grew up
- 33:48Speaker 3: in southwest Washington. His family farm was foreclosed down there
- 33:54Speaker 3: and he was for He and his family when he
- 33:55Speaker 3: was still in school grade school were forced to move
- 33:59Speaker 3: to Fife, where his grandparents lived, and they lived in
- 34:03Speaker 3: a trailer in the grandparents' front yard and outside Fife.
- 34:06Speaker 3: The trailer caught on fire and they were forced to
- 34:11Speaker 3: eventually move into the grandparents' home that caught on fire too,
- 34:18Speaker 3: And there were times that he didn't have a place
- 34:20Speaker 3: to count on to live in that wasn't damaged or
- 34:24Speaker 3: compromised some way, and they were all crowded into a
- 34:26Speaker 3: trailer first, and they were all crowded into a house
- 34:28Speaker 3: that wasn't designed to house a family with grade school
- 34:32Speaker 3: kids either. During this time, Caleb McGarry's father was diagnosed
- 34:37Speaker 3: with multiple sclerosis, so there's another hit to the.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Family, and that was after a work accident that he'd suffered.
- 34:43Speaker 3: Right and all this time he became a standout star
- 34:48Speaker 3: player at high school in football that attracted the University
- 34:51Speaker 3: of Washington. He was actually a part of Chris Peterson's
- 34:54Speaker 3: first recruiting class. I was working at the University of
- 34:56Speaker 3: Washington Athletic department at the time as their writer. When
- 34:59Speaker 3: Steve sarki and left and Chris Peterson came in, Caleb
- 35:02Speaker 3: McGary came in, and he became a Morris Trophy winner
- 35:05Speaker 3: and all packed twelve offensive lineman and a draft pick
- 35:08Speaker 3: of the Atlanta Falcons. And I remember talking to him
- 35:13Speaker 3: at the combine in twenty eighteen when he was entering
- 35:16Speaker 3: the draft and he was saying, my story is like
- 35:20Speaker 3: a country music song, and he said, amid all this
- 35:23Speaker 3: and he's hard rhythma.
- 35:25Speaker 2: My girlfriend broke up with me too, and my dog died,
- 35:27Speaker 2: he said to him.
- 35:28Speaker 3: And he said his dog also died. I'm only laughing
- 35:31Speaker 3: because he was laughing telling me this.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Because it's like how many bad things can go wrong
- 35:36Speaker 2: for one person.
- 35:37Speaker 3: Caleb McGarry, who came from nothing often, became an starting
- 35:44Speaker 3: offensive lineman right tackle for the Atlanta Falcons for seven years,
- 35:47Speaker 3: and at the age of thirty one, this week, he
- 35:49Speaker 3: announced he was retiring. He had a career full of
- 35:53Speaker 3: injuries as well, but the Falcons kept re signing him
- 35:56Speaker 3: and bringing him back, and he ended up making forty
- 35:59Speaker 3: three million dollars in his career. Now, we cover a
- 36:02Speaker 3: lot of professional athletes and they get money, and we
- 36:05Speaker 3: look at it, it's just more money. You want to
- 36:07Speaker 3: talk about a man who appreciates forty three million dollars
- 36:10Speaker 3: playing in the NFL, it's Kayla McGarry, who used to
- 36:12Speaker 3: live in a trailer that caught him fire and his
- 36:14Speaker 3: grandfather's frontire Frinyard and whose family farm was foreclosed. He
- 36:19Speaker 3: assured they haven't talked to him in many years, but
- 36:21Speaker 3: I'm assuredly he's set up his family much better than
- 36:24Speaker 3: he was living when he was in Fife High School.
- 36:27Speaker 3: But one of the good guys you hope it worked
- 36:30Speaker 3: out for. And I remember at the combine in twenty
- 36:32Speaker 3: eighteen hoping that, you know what, I hope he has
- 36:35Speaker 3: a career longer than the standard three year NFL career,
- 36:39Speaker 3: and he did, and he got a second contract. And
- 36:41Speaker 3: that's the generational wealth. And you talk about generational wealth
- 36:44Speaker 3: and a family that could use.
- 36:45Speaker 2: It, right, and somebody that you know is going to
- 36:47Speaker 2: put it to good use too.
- 36:48Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 36:49Speaker 3: He got married at a young age, he and his wife,
- 36:51Speaker 3: and I'm really anxious to catch up with him. I'm
- 36:54Speaker 3: gonna call him today, hopefully get to talk to him.
- 36:56Speaker 3: And that story should come up with an ode to
- 36:58Speaker 3: Kayla McGary on his retire this year from the nf
- 37:01Speaker 3: Falcons five zone Pierce County Zone should be in the
- 37:04Speaker 3: News Tribune maybe on Monday morning.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm going to be reading that one because
- 37:07Speaker 1: I was about to start crying reading this last one,
- 37:09Speaker 1: so I'm sure that one will be very emotional and
- 37:11Speaker 1: I look forward to it.
- 37:12Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 37:13Speaker 1: We are going to do the O Show a little
- 37:14Speaker 1: differently today, but that is coming up next to Sports
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